#[P5R PC] Take Your Time | [FEMC & Yuri] Story and Gameplay Overhaul

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bridget stays Winning

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Yuri!

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hopefully i dont regret it but i'll be making a bluesky account and use in conjuction with tumblr both for my projects(like this mod) and for rambling my thoughts

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no way i'll ever get twitter tho

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anyone has accounts here for me to follow?

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philosophy tube is on there

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altho im told the practice is to follow feeds as well as specific users

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(in practice though i dont actually use the feeds i follow lol)

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||still havent found the best place to share my horny art besides pixiv and twitter tho. and pixiv needs to censor bar the naughty bits||

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in my experience the "censors" are usually purposefully useless lol

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pinterest aggregating from another aggregator(exception is that dynasty is good about credit and isnt a scraper). peak google images moment

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before i ended up in a site that is 100% ai generated that aggregated images to hijack search engine results(that doesnt narrow anything down i know). this is depressing

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did pinterest ever positively contributed to the internet actually?

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its wild how japan is still censoring porn. despite being like one if not THE biggest source of it, at least for drawn ones

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anyway, the sauce

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funny thing is i actually changed my region on pixiv to japan because depending on ur region you cant view some shit at all

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like obv some of it is shit i wouldnt look at anyway but the fact that its taken out of my hands instead of me being able to just filter it out like i do on ao3 dark

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the internet is what allows us to interact with the entire world at the flicker of a finger regardless of the circumstances of our birth(unless youre like, really really poor to pay for it, and still in many places extremely poor people can still afford internet like they can a phone. like, homeless people tweeting from the mcdonalds public wifi is a thing lmao), but out of touch politicians/ceos still try to operate as if it was the real world, where you are completely at the mercy of your borders 🫩

uncut depot
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yeah sure lets make it illegal to be a teen on the internet even though most of the things that make the internet awful for teens also make it awful for adults /s

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im still pissed the same law censoring adult content in europe is in effect here where i live. like holy shit if the opposition werent literal nazis i would be voting against my president's dumb ass(not entirely in his control but people dont have many tools besides protesting)

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good thing only discord so far is trying to enact it. havent seen a single other site go 'pls give me your credentials'. feck discord

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~~me when the ruling party where i am are literal nazis P3CopPain ~~

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||unfortunately i dont think many gooners will become anti-nazis once these laws start affecting them. They may not be able to play ZZZ and Nikke without the government knowing, but at least trans people are miserable - them, probably||

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anyways on another topic, since when github has been advertising itself as ai-powered first and foremost?

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i know they are owned by ms and coding is probably the least worse use of generative ai since it can be done responsibly, but ai was never its main identity and still many programmers do have contempt for it

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wild decision

uncut depot
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same reason as the rest of the bubble smh

uncut depot
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lol lmao

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maybe i should have a post about the mod i'm not currently making pinned

blissful jasper
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yeam im seeing that rising in popularity

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im biased towards femme couples tho pensivekechi (ironic considering my mod)

fresh mulch
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(your bio)

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btw discord is so weird with sending tenor gifs. why dont they auto launch embedded with the message youre sending

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at this point i keep it in there as a semi joke lmao

fresh mulch
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ocean youre not the token ace anymore

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not what i was searching for but probably close enough

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anyways feel free. im just a bit overbearing and yappy at times(see: today)

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sigh of course tumblr would do this too

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ugh i really wish i could be talking about some ideas that have been brewing in my head about where to go with this mod, but im a bit busy with finding my footing on them social medias rn. it was so convenient when you only needed twitter 😭

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there's some stuff i really wanna talk about and develop more like the overworld shadows(as in, fights during the social sim part), but i got completely sidetracked with some... worrying stuff ive been noticing as i try to make some accounts

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i suppose i can mention that later, but firstly wth is happening in bluesky?

jovial turret
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fights in the overworld? How are those gonna work

fresh mulch
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ever played digimon cybersleuth?

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Nope

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yokai watch?

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Heard of it but no

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As long as it’s not like the p1 random encounters it’ll be good

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anyway, they are other types of quests that will lead to you dealing with a shadow that escaped mementos/palaces into the normal world and is causing problems. they'd take daytime/nighttime slots too

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a silly example would be people 'feeling the chills' when going somewhere, and when you investigate its a jack frost hanging around

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i do have to think how parties will be handled tho

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jovial turret
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Oh that’s a cool idea

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But how will the combat work

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Won’t your personas/guns be disabled

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if shadows are appearing in the real world, then they are merging into it, yes? that means that you should be able to use the same tools

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unfortunately having personaless fights is too boring for bosses. item spam isnt very interesting

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i do have to think through how to best implement this tho

fresh mulch
# fresh mulch i suppose i can mention that later, but firstly wth is happening in bluesky?

back on this, apparently there are trusted block lists that can get you basically shadowbanned by half of the platform because a lot of people follow them, and like, not sure someone should have that much power to dictate who's 'undesirable' for a huge part of the platform... considering the shit i see people like contrapoints labeled as, i have 0 trust in good faith use of such features

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Maybe you could give the player a super limited sp pool

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hold on might not be a terrible idea. firstly i was like 'maybe cut down the max SP temporarily' since this is doable, but this 'lazier' method of just starting with less current SP might be better...

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the goal would be to get users to rely more on items, but not solely on them, and still have the ability to use personas

jovial turret
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It’d shake up gameplay since you have to actually manage your sp now, and it’d fit lore wise since if only some demons are leaking through then you shouldn’t be at full strength either

fresh mulch
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i guess i can expand even more on this 🤔
hmmm using SP in the real world...

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holdon my brain is firing in all cylinders

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maybe SP as a resource not too dissimilar to the sick status from p3 in a way?

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you need to rest for a while after being spent and can choose to get better sooner at costs. you'd start overworld fights with the current SP you have instead of it being modified for the battle. even more management for the social sim aspect. and of course, you get to the metaverse with your current SP too(but maybe you get a baseline 'heal' when doing metaverse stuff like mementos or palaces because metaverse enhances your abilities, so its not too big a battle of artrittion while having friction still)

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idk i have to cook this up more. but atm this seems to be very close to what i idealized for this mod

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thanks

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an issue would be a good way to show your sp going down in a way that makes it clear that 'spending all day playing videogames just cost me 10, and hanging out with ryuji who made me run around all day just cost me 50', inluding a good way to show the passive healing after waking up or doing something calming (like reading a book). i think my only way would be using the big messages that appear in the center of the screen? a bit obstructive but better than your sp going haywire in the background without you knowing what is happening

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i'd also need the party members to have their own agency and spend/restore sp differently, only being able to 'control' them by hanging out with them, because then they are doing something with you instead of following the normal routine

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ryuji would probably be burning himself off often, while haru and makoto would be way more disciplined, but if i implement the 'calling card' days to be all fixed like shido's, i could have so that deciding to send the calling card will put everyone in a more 'conservative' mode where they'll mostly rest until the day close to the deadline to act

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gosh i always wanted to implement the og p3's individuality but using the current party tactics option would not be viable at all. this tho? im really fucking with the idea

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before my idea was more 'in some days someone will be unable to attend, so only mementos and no palace these days, without that party member present', and while i can still have it for the realism, i can keep that more unpredictable variable only happen a few times to not be too annoying, while with the sp management you can even just feed them drugs to recover it

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this also combats combat-based sp-regeneration, since sure you can just invigorate/spirit leech against random mobs in mementos, but thats out of your control outside of it

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i would like thoughts on this tho. rn i only have concepts of a plan, havent seen how good or bad it is in practice

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You’d prob just have to tell the player with the big message like you said

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Unless you can think of a better way to get the point across

fresh mulch
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i dont think i can make a whole new ui for this in a reasonable time frame. only if p5 was open source and like, that wont ever happen for obvious reasons(im only dealing with ghidra if absolutely necessary)

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there is the palace ruler alert stuff that could be somewhat 'easily' editable with ghidra, where i can create a version that references your SP, but thats so beyond scope and i have a lot more to do

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wont be surprised if that was somewhat doable by reusing the alert stuff

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ig i'll be doing twitter... idk anymore and ive spent the entire day worrying over it

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gnight all

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sterile micaBOT
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Makoann is underrated; I think they should kiss a lot. And I mean like, weirdly a lot. Unsanitary too. I want it to get medically inadvisable. I'm talking full-on watermelon-in-the-thighs level of tongue-on-tongue carnage. They should be entirely different people by the end of the first 8 hours.

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hey yall. made my first post. im going to sleep good night.

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thoughts?

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Ryumako fans finally thrown a bone after 89 years

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I honestly like all of these ships(ryuji only if girl), and i could go on huge tangents about why they are great and why i should implement them in the mod

grand cipher
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Ryumako, since I feel thats one that could properly fit, also with MakoRei

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Shumako is the most boring ship but i think its because both makoto and ren kind of are like bread. Sure bread is nice, but using bread as filling for bread instead of peanut butter(haru) doesnt work out too well... It becomes tiring to eat, its too bland

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Makoto can reasonably bounce off of anyone imo. Plus she has believable reasons to be close to all of these options beyond pure contrived AU reality warping

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MakoAnn: brief enemies to lovers, become bffs once they unite forces and apologize to each other. probably a lot of scratching and biting during s—

MakoHaru: both refined, smart ladies that are tired of putting up appearances to look presentable to the patriarchy, so they bring out the best within each other; the best being beating shadows to a bloody pulp. Also senpai x senpai is hot af

FutaMakoto: 12 in— oh wait no uh... MakoTaba: adorable pairing between two autistic girls, the youngest struggling with socializing, and the oldest having learned the hard way how to put up appearances. Neurodivergent mentorship, a solid ground for futaba to lean on, and a juicy age gap
Theyre also both nerds, makoto is a booknerd and futaba is a disgusting weeb(affectionate)

MakoRei: Rei is cooler and more of a punk here. The Harsh Prez x Wild Delinquent dynamic is gold.(Ren is more passive and discreet than Rei)

SumiMako: Makoto should 100% be acquainted with sumi. She's the prez, sumi is a struggling honor student, this is 🔥 material for a blooming romance. Also the sumire nerdy vibe accompanies makoto so well

HifuMako: if they were to ever meet, they would fight to the death in a goddamn board game as their form of having sex. Dont judge

RyuMako but ryuji is trans: trans ryuji as a concept is in and on itself amazing. I fuck w this even if out of curiosity. Also same thing as rei, prez x delinquent

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She was supposedly going to be a PT?

uncut depot
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yesnt in the sense that they recycled the character design for a scrapped pt

left hinge
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Broke: replace makoto with hifumi
Bespoke: have both and have them be ragingly homosexual towards each othee

left hinge
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Hifumi over joker. Now hifumi can get all them bitches too

left hinge
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Cutest kawaii desu?

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weary rapids
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Im just gonna pretend the SumiMako one is with R&V Kasumi

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Fair

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Cuz that’d be peak ask Mercury if you don’t believe me

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reminder that bi people are a thing 🤯

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No no, we all know thay bi people are just confused straight and gay people who havent made a decision yet /j

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im more interested in how the rules work

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if it randomly assigns people gay/bi and cis/trans, then i wouldnt. that'd cause a lot of pain that not even bill gate's money could undo

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but if its like
gay stays gay
bi stays bi
straight is bi
cis stays cis
trans stays trans
then yeah i dont see how that could be a problem

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i wouldnt even agree if it made straight gay, thats just evil. at least being bi you can still continue living like before if thats your thing

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its like hearing of annoying vegans, sure they def exist, but i hear more about them than from them. ig i just want to have hope our infighting situation isnt as bad as it seems

cloud dew
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mood

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i am gonna be honest that im not immune to ignorance and truly no one is. because to be immune to ignorance, you have to be born knowing everything, the difference is if, after presented with the issue, you double down, ignore, or understand

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unfortunately i did say some ignorant stuff about bi people before, and i cant say im infalliable now because there's still a lot i dont know

fresh mulch
# fresh mulch i am gonna be honest that im not immune to ignorance and truly no one is. becaus...

(this is an addendum and a thought exercise, not here to justfy biphobes, fuck 'em because biphobia is stoopid. i just want to think about the whys and hows)

i think tho there could be a good distinction made from the place someone is coming from when they are a dickass, never to justify, but to understand how they did get there. like someone that has to deal with public support as job, then coming back home after 8 hours dealing with aholes, many will end up exploding on innocent people like their kids(yes this is about mum). its wrong, but chances are that they arent being purposefully evil, and if you fix this issue in their lives, things do become much better for everyone(my mom is still inherently a stressed out person because of mental illness--i took it from someone after all lmao--, but she's WAY better now that she's no longer working)
similarly, a lot of gay people cant exactly take their anger out in the broader culture that puts them down and forces them to conform and fuck people they dont want to fuck, because this shittyness is a culture, not one person who has feelings, so talking down on straight people is easier and cathartic, because, well, you are socially punching up(but bullying a specific innocent straight person is punching down regardless of whatever 'social power' they may have. just dont be an asshole, its simple)
predictably, some gay people will end up conflating bis and straights because of the inherent surface-level overlap, because they are ignorant of the more unique struggles bi people face(that these same ignorant people end up contributing to), and this i believe is usually from someone badly redirecting their anger just like the previous example.
just like yelling at your kid from the accumulated stress from terrible working conditions isnt okay, being an ass to bis and straights because of the accumulated opression from society isn't okay either.
these do have a clear root of the 'why'. does this matter? idk im just saying

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fyi i think this is rather important for my vision of the mod itself. i want to elaborate on the palace rulers and humanize them more, primarily from the unused will seed flashbacks

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i think its important to acknowledge that most people can end up doing 'bad' things, i want to show palace rulers not as the cause of corruption, but as the perfect 'victims' of a system that corrupts people. i think this is more inline with the truth, and p5 even acknowledges this multiple times, but i want to lean harder on the uncomfortable idea that no one is immune from distortion

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a great example of p5 acknowledging this besides mementos being literally responsible for forming the palaces in the first place, is when we deal with shido. he's the big bad politician that is everythign thats wrong with society, but defeating him ends up, like with other palace rulers, just being like cutting the head of a hydra, there are more, and as long as the hydra is there, more heads will grow to occupy its place. when people can no longer follow shido as their leader, they just pick the next thing that brings them comfort, yaldy. mementos is the system that grows the hydra heads. the journey is downwards to find the literal core of the system to confront it

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wikipedia:

The Holy Grail (French: Saint Graal, Breton: Graal Santel, Welsh: Greal Sanctaidd, Cornish: Gral) is a treasure that serves as an important motif in Arthurian literature. Various traditions describe the Holy Grail as a cup, dish, or stone with miraculous healing powers, sometimes providing eternal youth or sustenance in infinite abundance, often guarded in the custody of the Fisher King and located in the hidden Grail castle. By analogy, any elusive object or goal of great significance may be perceived as a "holy grail" by those seeking such.[1]
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i think the holy grail is a very on the nose way of them saying that what people ultimately want is the feeling of safety and prosperity, to the point that some people will believe that locking themselves in a box and offloading their thinking to a higher figure(shido, ai in strikers) is worth it to achieve this goal. it transforming into a false god as its 'true' form seems rather intentional

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while humans are inherently tribalistic, i do think that tribalism does die down a lot when people feel happy and contend. a major tactic for bigotry done by politicians is making your own base miserable and then point at a non-issue to keep them distracted, because they want to be happy, but are blind as to why they are unhappy, but if the guys that are of their 'tribe' says that trans athletes are the reason for all their issues, many will happily bite the bait. will making everyone happy eliminate bigotry? no. but i think its good to acknowledge that not all evil is done for evil, while still knowing that regardless of intention, its still bad. this distinction is important because the moment you think you are above being evil, you can justify a lot of terrible shit by saying 'but im not evil', yknow, like christians that are 'blessed by god' think. i see many on the left fall for this as well

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what was i talkingt about again

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i think back on my baby lesbian days and often cringe so much of the shit i used to think/say

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it kinda happens with any 'new' identity anyone picks up too(its still 'pickip up' an identity even if you were always that identity before, but didnt have the term. is what i mean). many tend to get louder to try to compensate, show how much they truly care for their label, want to be accepted by peers. this ends up bringing the worst in us

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i believe a lot of biphobia from the gays comes from this stage. but of course some dont grow out of it and doubledown. the same type of people that 'drop the t', they like to pull the ladders from behind them basically

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ugh i remember back on a lot of shit i used to say. at the start dick-shaming was very cathartic, but because it was done in a way that conflated 'penises' with 'men' and then 'patriarchy'... well, you can imagine how that can devolve into transphobia easily, even if unintentional. like, plenty of trans women already struggle with feeling happy in their bodies, catching random strays about 'gross dicks' isnt really helping there

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and i may have been overcompensating because i consumed a lot of fut—

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its unfortunate how some lesbians will see trans women unhappy about their bodies being treated awfully by other lesbians and instead of acknowledging, they'll double down and go full TERF by misrepresenting as 'oh so you want to force me to date you?' Naofacepalm

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(okay this is just offtopic now but i want to vent about my own stupidity)

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Agreed with all that

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i mean, 'holy grail' sounds pretty evident of what it symbolizes without knowing of the origin, but this is neat to know nonethless

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I getcha :p

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i should truly post on tumblr at this point

sterile micaBOT
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No lies there

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personaleak when

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i mean. we did just get a leak of p6 concept art

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now i do wonder if it does have a multiplayer feature or not. i don remember

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p4g and p5r have some

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deathchaos was able to backport the new party members to vanilla p5 but adding new ones to royal is impossible

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why is that

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dont know much about modding both so idk how that works

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dc starts explaining starting here

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guess we gotta go pull a johnny silverhand to get the source code from atlas's basement

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not me having my dreams of saving the p5x girls by adding them to p5 in a big lesbian polycule crushed pensivekechi

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one interesting thing tho, is that there are a lot of empty slots for arcanas. there's a huge jump in faith's id from judgement for example

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i have dabbled a bit on it before but never fully finished it, but it should be theoretically possible for me to add new social links as a way to introduce some p5x chars i think have potential. the thing is tho that there are a lot of stuff that i have to get working. like fusion tables, how do they do the arcana formula? can i edit easily or do i need to use ghidra and find it? there's also a bunch of other small things that compound. plus a lot of these extra arcana slots just being used for 'romantic verion' of the female confidants in the first place, so do they even work properly as standalone arcanas? etc

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New social links would be fire

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But wouldn’t you need more days to actually finish them

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i did already mention the increased time slots. 1 extra on saturday, and 2 extra on sunday

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Speaking of which I had the idea at some point for a new story arc which would take place after maruki in February, would something like that even be possible

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Afaik you can add new days to the scheduler, new palace fields new battles and text/event edits so would there be any other restrictions

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Not that it’s ever gonna happen but it’d be cool to think about

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i am worried that i end up making slinks too grindy because of my heavy focus on time gating slinks for them to have realistic timeframes(so no shiho healing in like a month lmao). the game does a bit of that like with ryuji planning to get dirt on the new sub teacher, and you have to accept his invite or miss the chance and have to wait again(obviously im not making everything like that, that'd be obnoxious. im saying that i want slinks to be more time-aware and realistic). adding new slinks kind of allows me to have similar amounts of grinding, but it diverts attention from a single task and divides into multiple, which gives less of a perception of 'grinding'. so if i can i will try and see if i can implement new slinks since it does benefit the game part im going for (the new yuri is a bonus 🤤 )

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uncut depot
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mementos shouldnt be too hardcoded, hopefully?

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the main issues would be assetswise imo. but also, making fully playable fields is hellish. could maybe be done tho

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isnt how ids are tied to assets a major pain in the ass too? i have flashbacks...

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anyway you just need someone autistic enough for this imo

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>search engine for a chatroom
>looks inside
>requires the precise wording or gtfo

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if someone tried to find a message where i said sppecialy, they wouldnt find because they would assume i didnt make a stupid typo, so this message wont appear if you go for 'user:girl kizzer' and 'sp*cially'

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Well good to know it’s at least possible, even if it prob won’t happen

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unless

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jovial turret
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absolute awful for a chat's search engine

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suddenly had a thought of including a demifiend boss fight and wondered if anyone did that already

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holy shit nyx. 68 posts???

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(need one more)

olive tulip
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that Demi Fiend boss is outdated though, the newer one is Fiend Battles

fresh mulch
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oh cool

grand cipher
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and I had the same idea of re-adding him into Reawakened.
but first I need to fricken finish the other challenge battles. OR just focus on main story shit

fresh mulch
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having a bunch of stuff to do? couldnt be me MakotoSmirk (help)

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its cuz I'm biting more then I can chew.
I keep tryna do like 20 things at once.

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Scroll up a bit for context

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do I wanna do challenge battles or do I wanna fricken finish kamoshida arc.
I don't know!!

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do i wanna work on the mod or read this very spicy yuri manga? idk

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Not to mention I got my hands on Skate 3 so I've also been playing that instead of modding

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skate 3 better then skate 4 even tho ive never played skate 4

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if skate 3 is so cute why theres no skate ^3? checkmate, liberal

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i meant good

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idk why my brain wrote cute

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but fuck it its cute now too

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cuz skate 3 is so good there doesn't need to be skate ^3

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skate cubed

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cubed skate

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hall of meat

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flips

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hall of meat in skate 3 is 100% my favorite.
it's so easy to get 100k points on it, along with basically breaking all bones

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i think this might be somewhat an important poll for once?

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Game we finished or just played

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whatever metric you consider 'playing'. its subjective

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i have like an hour each in nocturne, smtiv and smtv lol

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i did play femc a bit but it was years ago and i dropped randomly. i technically played but dont really consider it?

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i know i know

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trying to finish portable malemc first so i have the better experience last

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better aftertaste yknow naocool

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while i have yall's attention

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had to cull Nine(japan only xbox game 💀 ), and Imagine(a dead mmo)

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yknow, it'd be funny if p5 doesnt win the poll in this thread lmao

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technically catherine is a real shin megoom tensei game right

mellow pecan
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remember when shido turned into a boat? funniest shit ive ever seen

grand cipher
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apt pupil + gun amp + gun boost + charge + will of the sword + oneshot kill

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thats foul

sterile micaBOT
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EXCUSE ME WHAT WIHEWRODUIGHNIORWEKSFGHNOEJKFRSNGOWRFN

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did DC get proved wrong?

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also hows the multiplayer thing going? Think Rirurin is the one who made it right?

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there will be a lot of the game's original code that would have to be adjusted. but this is very promising

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sudden mist
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i might do it for a future persona game though

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yeah sounds like a pain. but if enough people are interested couldnt they contribute to a github repo or smth?

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true, though there aren't that many code modders
i'd like to get more people interested in code modding for the persona games particularly for P4R and P6

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i've considered doing a video series about it

fresh mulch
#

was going to tag spypigeon but wtf happened???

sharp yoke
fresh mulch
#

obviously. all kissing simultaneously is best

sharp yoke
#

Well there's your answer

sudden mist
jovial turret
fresh mulch
# sudden mist i've considered doing a video series about it

if you have the time or willingness(specially to edit a video), then that is def the best way to get more people into modding. text tutorials can be quite overwhelming, since people are getting a snapshot of a lot of it at once and many's brains just... nope out(speaking from experience)

#

funny, if you know what youre doing but need some help, video tutorials are such a drag and you wish you could just ctrl f to the important bit. but for beginners that have no idea whats going on, they are basically a necessity, since videos by definition railroad the information for you and show the steps to an action

sharp yoke
# fresh mulch

So ugh... what If I had played ALL of them no joke. Besides ofc that Gacha ass DX2

fresh mulch
#

difference between a install.md saying
just clone thisstuff.git
and a video showing the guy opening a terminal and saying to type it. its the small stuff, but videos convey a ridiculous amount of information that is taken for granted

jovial turret
#

Either that or comming someone to make it

fresh mulch
grand cipher
fresh mulch
#

i dont doubt it. but theres no indication of why he did it this time(maybe deleted comments dont appear in search)

grand cipher
#

who knows but I wouldn't question him if he does return, prob personal

fresh mulch
#

i only played DX2 for the lesbian tbh. but the story having to follow a gacha missions format makes it so much worse that not even a raging lesbian could save it for me

sharp yoke
#

Will replay Digital Devil Saga 2 and all Last Bible games

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They are soo amazing

fresh mulch
#

i forgor to add DDS and desu

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dance dance sevolution

sharp yoke
#

Dx2 has lesbians? hold up

fresh mulch
#

surprisingly, she doesnt try to assault every female character every 2 seconds like all other early 2000s anime lesbian characters 🤯

#

(still salty over being recommended magical index and scientific railgun)

uncut depot
fresh mulch
fresh mulch
fresh mulch
#

i do wonder when will p6 come. theyll probably let p4r cook for a few years first right

jovial turret
#

It wouldn’t surprise me if they’re closer together given the leaks

fresh mulch
#

link to the leaks?

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this is... not what i'd expect

sharp yoke
#

The male looks awful, sorry not sorry. bowl ass cut

grand cipher
sharp yoke
#

Also fairly certain MANY leaks and rumours say there will be 2 Protags

grand cipher
#

whats gonna be the animal party member this time? A panda?

fresh mulch
#

(major p3 spoilers) 😭

jovial turret
#

Nah that’s foul

grand cipher
#

if he started at say level 1, how much exp did she have???

fresh mulch
#

||considering she birthed a child. plenty experienced||

weary rapids
#

||I thought it was none or at best the tutorial block one shadow||

grand cipher
fresh mulch
#

i already regret making a twitter account naotofuck

sharp yoke
#

fantastic...

fresh mulch
#

okay im setting up....
youtube(already did but still need a public vid once the demo is out, not before)
xitter (because reach)
bluesky (xitter without as many nazis)
tumblr blog (for my game design, philosophical, and feminist ramblings. often all 3 at once)
pixiv (so i can post my hand-drawn 🐘 ✨ 🎀 𝓅naotoflushed𝓇𝓃🍑𝑔𝓇𝒶𝓅𝒽𝓎 🎀 🐘 💨 ) (no, i'm not ashamed)
ao3 (for totally innocent whimsical fanfics. ||i have plans 😈 ||)

...am i missing anything else?

oh yeah discord(for this comment)

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is there even a point in using instagram or tiktok? i already have xitter and discord for my racist apps i dont need more

weary rapids
#

Twitter is a mistake

fresh mulch
#

thats an offense to mistakes i'll let you know

fresh mulch
#

i was not expecting to struggle with html today

junior smelt
#

I avoid frontend code like the plague

fresh mulch
#

it seems like stuff just works ™ and i have no idea how to manipulate anything

#

have bridget while i suffer

#

-# i need a brisket in my life...

grand cipher
#

youtube is getting way too comfortable with the 2 ads every 3 minutes, like they REALLY want us to buy premium

fresh mulch
grand cipher
jovial turret
#

Consume product and be happy

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No thinking

fresh mulch
#

revanced keep up to date

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oh but if youre on tv? yeah tough luck

grand cipher
fresh mulch
#

3 ads be upon ye

grand cipher
fresh mulch
# fresh mulch
poll_question_text

Best p5 makoto ship?(No het, Ryuji's staying single)

victor_answer_votes

6

total_votes

11

victor_answer_id

2

victor_answer_text

HaruMako / MakoHaru

victor_answer_emoji_id

1198341911832973562

victor_answer_emoji_name

harizz

#

harumako agrees this is bullshit

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youtube can get away with anything unfortunately

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you cant really compete with them. youtube is kind of a miracle in and on itself honestly

jovial turret
#

But only bc of student discount

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Otherwise it’s way too expensive

uncut depot
grand cipher
jovial turret
#

Well

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Did you buy it /s

fresh mulch
#

manscaped sponsors as well, in content like minecraft and pokemon...

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bet that if manscaped ads were focused around female genitalia there would be a bigger uproar about it. but balls funny

grand cipher
grand cipher
fresh mulch
#

more like 2 horny 4 posting

junior smelt
#

Quicker to update, more features

grand cipher
junior smelt
#

Basically the same as revanced in that you patch an app

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It's been quicker to squash issues caused by youtube and has a nicer settings menu and features in my experience

fresh mulch
#

we are simple creatures

junior smelt
#

lmao

fresh mulch
#

i would post my new tumblr blog but im afraid its too corny and cringey pensivekechi

grand cipher
fresh mulch
fresh mulch
#

toxic yaoi to wholesome yuri pipeline 😨

fresh mulch
#

4 days old account

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at least specify???? 😭

uncut depot
#

lol thats obviously a bot or troll

fresh mulch
#

is what i assumed at first, but still what would the scam even be??? maybe just troll for the sake of it ig

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their blocklist is suspiciously filled with trans yuri artists... suspicious

left hinge
fresh mulch
sterile micaBOT
junior smelt
#

Adorable

fresh mulch
sterile micaBOT
fresh mulch
#

i can die happy. also its WAY past midnight here. good night

fresh mulch
#

Doh seeing all this yuri art is rekindling my desire to draw yuri , but i cant find my drawing table anywhere 😭

#

||i just wanted to draw some nakey briskets is that so wrong???||

fresh mulch
#

Morning...

fresh mulch
#

i honestly dont mind the malemc if that is his design. i kinda like the idea of the mc in a social sim not being 'cool' looking/a bit dorky

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dont take me wrong i love jonkle, mainly because he's a metrosexual diva. i also like yu for his tough aesthetic complimented with his soft empathy. for makoto, they definitively nailed the 'doomeristic edgy teen' look and is on the dorkier side, but still looks 'cool' in a way. a protagonist that does not appeal to fantasies of the target demograpic(male teens) would be rather ballsy tho and i really like the idea

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but let us see ig. cant wait for the announcement now to confirm/deny the leaks

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have i told you im a sucker for dressing up eggs

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...excuse me????

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🤔

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i really like how p3's persona designs go heavy on symbolism

junior smelt
#

Greek mythology theme goes hard

fresh mulch
#

well saint lucy was a Roman catholic 'virgin'(yuck) martyr

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but usually they go for greek mythology

#

am i a sinner for finding her persona ho—

junior smelt
#

There are definitely some suspiciously hot personas

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Ann's is literally a dominatrix

fresh mulch
#

well that one is kind of designed to be hot, since its Carmen(is ann Fire themed because shes hot 🤔 /j)

junior smelt
#

Cendrillon is the most attractive imo

fresh mulch
#

ugh, men 🙄 theyll stick it in any—

#

okay hear me out

junior smelt
#

For a while I didn't realize the blue crystal parts were clothes so I thought she was just thicc as hell

fresh mulch
#

tho... with how filled with symbolism personas area, i can't shake the feeling she's dark-skinned because thats kind of her derogatory nickname, literally 'ash'... and when she evolves to her truest form, she's clear white because she no longer has ash covering her true identity, she's just Ella

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is it meant to be racist? i highly doubt. but this is an unfortunate reading

junior smelt
#

Does make sense

fresh mulch
#

also the bright lips are not helping her case

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japanese creators dont have american race consciousness nor focus on it, because its not ingrained in their culture, so like, if this was made by a western it would be way more suspicious, but as it is the symbolism still works well. cant cover all your bases nor do i even care since the intent is obviously not this way

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just pointing out.
anyways she's so fecking beautiful

fresh mulch
#

i do wonder what these tattoos symbolise. its a bit too specific to be random contrast for the sake of it. but for such a dark skinned character contrast on the limbs is still a good idea for readability

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also her dress is interesting...

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you could probably take days analysing p3 and 5 persona designs tbh

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no offense to 4... but so far its rather straightforward from what i gathered?

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doesnt help the evolutions are terrible

weary rapids
#

They’re colorful at least

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You noticed how each Personas in the games are about the tones?

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P3 was dark and P4 is more colorful and 5 is style

fresh mulch
#

yeah they look pleasing and do have thought behind them. you can read the thought behind the designs for 4 personas, but they are still very simplistic in symbolism

fresh mulch
weary rapids
#

Arsene is the goat i refuse to hear any slander about him

fresh mulch
#

still salty you are most likely never using her in combat

#

p5 is too formulaic to the point of hurting itself in order to keep 'consistency'

junior smelt
#

Peak design

weary rapids
#

Oh boy that’s a whole rant for me

fresh mulch
#

mfer, sumi literally shattered her perception of being kasumi and her persona that is literally themed around a temporary illusion of someone becoming someone else doesn't change at the same time???

weary rapids
#

Sucks that her character was clearly rushed out the door for sales

fresh mulch
#

nah dont think thats it. third sem doesnt really feel rushed. its just that p5's design philosophy is a bit too strict at times in repeating the same patterns over and over again

weary rapids
#

She was barely in the game at all

fresh mulch
#

sumi 'evolving' when third sem trully starts would be assymetrical and not too dissimilar to akechi. i think this would be interesting. just have her be playable in the shido palace so you have some time with cendrillon first

weary rapids
#

And the third sem is too short

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Cuz P5 loves having pacing issues

fresh mulch
weary rapids
#

That gets used for 10 seconds

junior smelt
fresh mulch
#

oh dont get me started on hereward

weary rapids
#

Especially Ella you don’t use her at all

junior smelt
#

I wonder how doable that is with modding

weary rapids
#

Which begs the question what was the point

fresh mulch
junior smelt
#

👀

weary rapids
#

I would’ve gotten rid of the first awakening cuz it was too early

fresh mulch
#

didnt ocean make an early vanadis mod?

weary rapids
#

I think she did

junior smelt
#

You're right

fresh mulch
#

the main issue was incorporating vanadis in the animations with cendrillon, but gamewise implementing it is simple

weary rapids
#

Why wasn’t Vana the real awakening one why use the original again

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Fits more with her design basically being a clone of Ren’s

fresh mulch
#

i do think vanadis copying arsene makes more sense once she starts looking up to ren. she's just trying to find her true self and part of this process includes 'imitating' the people you look up to

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vanadis is quite literally a phase, not the true sumi

#

ive elaborated a bit on the persona designs here

weary rapids
#

And then her true persona you only get to use for the final boss

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And if you don’t pick her for the fight it’s not at all

fresh mulch
#

honestly a way to fix this while keeping the same structure would be to require navigating an extra dungeon before the boss, instead of the usual 'okay we found the treasure so we just teleport and beat the bad guy'

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you have this whole epic music during calling cards you get to hear for a few seconds, even more egregiously in maruki's case

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okumura did the calling card best imo

fresh mulch
junior smelt
#

I don't question for a moment that haru owns one

fresh mulch
junior smelt
#

😭

weary rapids
#

She has that mindset Mercury

junior smelt
#

Fem Ren is peak

weary rapids
#

And always will be

#

But not as much as Akage she’s a whole different league

jovial turret
fresh mulch
# fresh mulch anyways im still gushing over this and gives me the itch to write transfem ren

i'll be doing this idea on the p3p protags tho (malemc -> transfem, femalemc -> transmasc). part of the reason i decided to go for 'she's cis, just very butch, and yes she's flat not using a binder' here in TYT is mainly because i want my writing to be somewhat realistic when it comes to serious topics(teenager lesbian polycules are totally realistic wdym), and if you think im already going heavy with Rei's treatment, her being transfem would be a whole other level in the context of the story, and im not sure im as comfortable writing about constant transphobia as i am with lesbophobia(i mean, Rei despite being cis still often is a target of transphobic comments obviously--transphobia affects everyone, even cis men--and i do write them, but its not focused on it, because she's legally a cis girl and there isnt as much of a debate over that in universe. idk it just feels like it'd be too much for me personally)

#

i thought about transfem ren and how kamoshida would def misgender her and project his perversion on her, and like, not sure i can do justice to that. i can do justice to asshats thinking they have a magic heterofication dick, so i went with cis butch ren instead

junior smelt
#

That works

fresh mulch
#

i also think the p3p format is perfect for this since its inherently focused on gender by its nature, and subversions of the male and female experiences, so its like, perfect for the trans theming. plus p3's focus on the death arcana, which symbolizes the end of a cycle for a new one, is just 👌 . its a great representation of 'accepting death' and celebrating life at the same time, since the transformation is the killing of your false self and birth of your real one. the first 12 arcanas before death are just the first half. i really like how it ties so well here

junior smelt
#

I've considered making a trans kotone mod (utilizing the headcanon that makoto is pre-transition kotone lol). Just not sure what story changes thered be besides the obvious. Intro at school would be different, the beach and Kyoto, sports club? Ikutsuki would be a prick who keeps 'accidentally' nisgendering her

fresh mulch
#

for p3r i'd ideally like to have both transfem makoto and kotone versions (utilizing the femc mod as base. otherwise i'd just go for makoto cause it'd be too much work alone). dunno how much work would maintaining two parallel versions be but thats already what i'd have to do with p3p

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p4 i'm going for another cis butch tho. but yukiko is a stealth transfem B)

fresh mulch
#

cant really tell how he'd react myself

junior smelt
#

Minus the yukiko part

fresh mulch
#

yeah but im talking kinda of like how im doing with tyt. huge changes similarly to how p3's femc route is not pronoun switches

#

unless that does change a lot

junior smelt
#

Makes sense

fresh mulch
#

oh yeah forgor i did these

junior smelt
#

Love the style

simple knoll
fresh mulch
#

couple goals

fresh mulch
#

oh the comments alreadt mentioned it

fresh mulch
#

hello there

#

adachi_true
-# ... but what if i wanna be pun—

sterile micaBOT
sterile micaBOT
grand cipher
fresh mulch
#

Thoughts on my adorable team? 🤭

#

damn how did i only get males

fresh mulch
#

if the terrible gimmick is anything but the countdown timer that runs even during dialogue, then skill issue tbh

#

im pretty sure that the timer pauses when you go to the analysis screen? im sure i just did that

uncut depot
uncut depot
fresh mulch
uncut depot
fresh mulch
#

i think im finally stating to understand how git pull works... okay not really. im just going through the motions 'oh, uh... rebase? this doesnt sound like what i want, but yeah sure if youre telling me to do that' 😭

#

never get programmers to do UX. good lord i have no idea what im looking at in IDE's half of the time

uncut depot
#

ok so u have your remote which is what youll see on github, and then your local which is the thing you have in your ide. pull basically just grabs any changes (commits) made to the remote that arent on your local yet

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and then push is the inverse, any commits you made on your local get added to the remote

fresh mulch
#

mhm i know that. setting up remotes, the upstream, my own remote to push to. the problem is that im trying to follow the 'correct' way to pull out. which is like uh theres checkouts then rebase then git yomama and like... just brute forcing the merge and ignoring all this 'fast forward' stuff has been working for me much better, but maybe i shouldnt deal with as many conflict resolutions if i do it 'properly'?

uncut depot
#

yea generally u just use merge, rebase is for like if you need to slap your shit onto a different branch than the one youve been using

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although i will be real i uhh learned some of this shit by doing

fresh mulch
#

most of what i learn ends up just being by doing it and be like '...okay. that works'

#

trying to understand what tutorials say hurts my brain more than just going without thinking

uncut depot
#

also im lazy and dont like memorizing cli commands so usually i let visual studio handle it whenever i can and then just bookmark a stackoverflow link or w/e when i absolutely have to use cli

#

the latter happens basically whenever i need submodules, which is often

fresh mulch
#

if you know more than the basic necessary cli commands, i have legal rights to call you a stinky nerd and laugh at you

sterile micaBOT
fresh mulch
#

i am stealing this idea thanks

fresh mulch
#

fecking LOVE excel, cant even have a simple way of saying 'this cell', there are a bajillion methods 🙄

mellow pecan
#

I recall a headcannon that FeMC!Ryoji has top surgery scars.

fresh mulch
#

who gave them top surgery? def couldnt be margaret

#

much less theo actually

#

lavenza is out too

fresh mulch
# fresh mulch
poll_question_text

Which of these gaymes have you played?(multi) not including the dancing games

victor_answer_votes

11

total_votes

57

victor_answer_id

1

victor_answer_text

Persona 5 (Any)

victor_answer_emoji_id

1045436614123462777

victor_answer_emoji_name

P5

#

no one played smt4? heresy

simple knoll
fresh mulch
#

for some reason i was under the impression himejoshi was for straight female yuri fans

fresh mulch
# fresh mulch
poll_question_text

now we are getting NICHE. which ones did you play? even for a bit(multi)

victor_answer_votes

5

total_votes

22

victor_answer_id

9

victor_answer_text

Persona Q(Any. Because I forgor in the prev poll)

victor_answer_emoji_id

1046065890380230696

victor_answer_emoji_name

PQ2

mellow pecan
# mellow pecan
poll_question_text

Who tops?

victor_answer_votes

7

total_votes

8

victor_answer_id

1

victor_answer_text

Shido

victor_answer_emoji_name

⛴️

junior smelt
#

Everyone I've met that calls themselves one has been a gay woman

fresh mulch
#

shotouts to gay women i wanna kiss them

uncut depot
# uncut depot
poll_question_text

who tops

victor_answer_votes

8

total_votes

12

victor_answer_id

3

victor_answer_text

bro wtf prompted this

victor_answer_emoji_id

1170755019641999430

victor_answer_emoji_name

Rise_what

fresh mulch
#

ah yes, the underrated gem called portal

#

youtube commenters be like "DAE think beethoven is underrated???" "only REAL gamers know the feeling of [insert something that commonly happens in minecraft]" "[someone references the skyrim arrow in the knee meme] this guy knows ball"

fresh mulch
#

wanted to share this here

#

i strongly believe one piece is a masterpiece. it feels so wrong to call it a 'battle shonen'

fresh mulch
#

surely nothing about this could go wrong... pensivekechi

#

HOLY SHIT ITS JUNE????

#

happy yuri mfers

fresh mulch
simple knoll
#

sexuality doesn't matter

#

i call myself a fujoshi even though i'm not nb so it isn't strict i suppose

#

i just resonate with being a fujoshi more than a fudanshi

#

the experiences are very different

fresh mulch
#

I like latinas

left hinge
#

Cuz that's tru

fresh mulch
#

You have notifs on here?

left hinge
#

My phone discord just gave notif to most stuff I follow in this server
Mostly the concept & project discussion

left hinge
#

Probably ADHD brain try see all ping lmao

But if it's not pinged I just scroll pass it

#

Dm is even cleaner I rarely use dm lmao

#

Plus an advantage being a bum lmao free times

#

See what I mean lmao

left hinge
#

Try to clean any notf
Lmao

fresh mulch
#

Sumi after realizing she's into girls

#

Wait... Title drop???

fresh mulch
#

Thats a war crime

#

~~me when i see mizuki 😇 ~~

sterile micaBOT
#

BBVW2 Challenge Mode Nuzlocke Update: my onahole served valiantly to be thrown out to a vicious fire hound so that my puppygirl could come in safely; and she/he managed to avenge the mangled bell pitcher with a boosted Retaliate, oneshotting a freaking DRAGON(It was just an Axew).
︀︀o7 Rest In-A-Hole

Quoting Kisser of Madames (@girlkizzer.bsky.social)

I'm doing a Blaze Black/Volt White 2 Redux nuzlocke on my free time on challenge mode. Here's my initial team from a few days ago.
︀︀Spoilers: One didn't make it

fresh mulch
#

I guaranteed that through human history this combination of words has never been uttered before

fresh mulch
#

the best part of pride month is the big influx of yuri art. im eating good

strong moat
#

lots of rise art for me to start june :)

#

(it's her birthday today)

fresh mulch
#

the straightest girl with the gayest persona has a birthday in the gayest month smh my head

strong moat
#

she's very bi in my head

fresh mulch
#
The country formerly had a man as ruler. For some seventy or eighty years after that there were disturbances and warfare. Thereupon the people agreed upon a woman for their ruler. Her name was Himiko [卑弥呼]. She occupied herself with magic and sorcery, bewitching the people. Though mature in age, she remained unmarried. She had a younger brother who assisted her in ruling the country. After she became the ruler, there were few who saw her. She had one thousand women as attendants, but only one man. He served her food and drink and acted as a medium of communication. She resided in a palace surrounded by towers and stockades, with armed guards in a state of constant vigilance.[11]
#

her persona is SO gay 😭

sterile micaBOT
fresh mulch
#

happy pride and rise's birthday

grand cipher
fresh mulch
#

you dont have the gay glasses so see through the hetero fog obviously

#

(rise does unfortunately feels rather distant from the other girls in the group tho. she is too glued to senpai and honestly has more synergy with kanji of all things 😭 )

fresh mulch
#

i'd like to develop the rise-yukiko-chie dynamic in my p4 tyt. a femc should def help because she can be glued to the mc like in canon while still have plenty of 'girls-only' moments with the others

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btw any 'girls-only' moments in p4 that is not 2 goddamn fanservice bath scenes? and they always include guys as a gag there so they dont even count

#

usually we have some of those in festivals but my mind is fuzzy. p5 has few as well but it lets us see outside of the mc pov plenty, so we get some good stuff like ann and makoto bonding

#

yknow, p4 does have the 'it feels like they are friends' thing, but at the same time, it feels like its... not that much?

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all characters orbit the protagonist, and there are plenty of interconnections, but like, p3 feels like everyone is much closer to each other imo

#

idk i think p4 could polish up some dynamics. chie-yukiko-yosuke have a great thing going on, teddie and yu as well with everyone, kanji-naoto kinda have some but it feels like a distant crush thing instead of an actual dynamic? and rise feels rather isolated and confined to mc, with her best friend feeling more like teddie

#

thats what i vaguely remember tho

#

basically, naoto, rise, and kanji feel most distant imo

#

but seems like some more scenes with them should be enough tho

#

idk tell me how wrong i am. havent played p4 in a hot minute and last i did i disabled the cringe scenes

sterile micaBOT
#

BEST. FUCKING. STUDIO.
︀︀Anything that satisfies the bottomless pit that is my hunger for gay women will be worshipped and revered by me.
︀︀I love Heart of the Woods, my favorite VN of all time, alongside KSotR
︀︀Tara is my waifu, she's such a dork that makes me want to shut her yap up with a big kiss <3

Quoting Studio Élan (@vnstudioelan.com)

We're Studio Élan, a yuri visual novel development studio making fem-focused gay romance games ✨ All of our visual novels are playable on Steam & itchio with some out on consoles!
︀︀
︀︀🎮 Steam games: store.steampowered.com/curator/34454788
︀︀💖 Our website: vnstudioelan.com/
︀︀
︀︀Thread on our gaymes ⤵️

fresh mulch
#

shotouts to studio elan

#

I WANNA MARRY HER SO BADLY

#

she's basically this interpretation of femc

mellow pecan
fresh mulch
#

i love dorky overconfident girls aaaaaa

fresh mulch
#

sorry i have an extra dosage of lesbian today

fresh mulch
strong moat
fresh mulch
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yeah on the huge group aspect it def does really well. just wanted more individual developments

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like especially the rise one... I'm biased lol but also I think rise has healthy dynamics with everyone in the group

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again, kanji rise besties agenda

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(also kanji/naoto is indeed supposed to be a one sided crush, naoto doesn't gaf about kanji in that way lmao)

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the only time naoto blushes towards kanji is a golden addition

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ship bait smh

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(it's during the ski trip when she falls on top of him)

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i do wonder how people romancing naoto felt there lmao

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Yosuke made Naoto blush a few times

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it was definitely not cringe in those cases lol

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I just would build off of what already exists, which I do think is reasonably strong (albeit in a big group dynamic)

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or mentioned rather than shown

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if i were to rate the persona boys by how much game they would have if not for the mc basically forcing all girls to be yusexual, then honestly yosuke would be above average. he's honestly pretty handsome, but gosh his personality is ugh

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but he'd def have a girlfriend instead of spending valentines alone tho if he tried. the amount of straight girls ive seen with 'hot' but shitty bfs... at least yosuke is a good person at heart

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yeah Yosuke is a good guy

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he just needs to grow up

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which he already does do throughout the game but it's not complete (which is totally reasonable tbh)

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he's basically the average 'bro' except he's not an incel, that goes for junpei who gets better

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fuck it im doing a persona boy's got game tier list from the perspective of a lesbian (+ what i notice straight/bi girls usually going for)

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girlkisser's posting hetero, got to ban her, sad.

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im too focused on drooling to the girls that i barely pay attention to the boys. i wanna write more about them because i feel like i have some shoes to fill there

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sharp yoke
# weary rapids Twitter is a mistake

Only made UNFATHOMABLY worse when Elon added Check Marks to accounts to people just constantly ragebait and grift to farm engagement for money.

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Game AND relationship quality tier list:
S: Yoshida, i mean, just look at that... hunk of a... middle aged politician. okay he's incredibly unattractive but no way he cant get a wife, he's so charismatic and has such a big heart, let my good-man Tora have this one W
S-: Yu. first impression: the definition of 'hot' in the dictionary has a picture of him. get to know him: charismatic and extremely empathetic, he's the bf that will not mansplain, and instead just fucking HEAR YOU for one goddamn second and share your pain. His design is literally designed to resemble a loyal guard dog, he will not cheat on you despite looking like a frat boy.
A+: Ren. Literal posterchild bad boy, is witty and funny, and has enough guts to ask a girl out directly. But his bonus points is how stylish and bishonen he is. He does make you question whether he's cheating on you tho... even with guys...
A: Tatsuya. Dunno much about him but he's bishonen and has a bike, so...
A-: Ryuji: he can sometimes be a bit sleazy like yosuke and junpei, but so far, he's def good for a teenager boy. He has the 'bad boy with a heart of gold thing', yadayada. He's a more 'masculine' kanji that probably is also hotter, but like... idk enough about men-attracted women to tell which one wins in hotness. Kanji is still def a better partner, but ryuji actually has attempts at game and isnt shy. if not for the game forcing him to be single, he could rather effortlessly get a gf tbh. Ryuji also has a big empathetic drive in him just like Yosuke, so he's like, their lovechild naotoflushed

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B+: Kanji. despite being basically the dream boyfriend for a LOT of girls (tough exterior, soft affeminate and caring inside. heck, him making dolls even gets me a bit hot), his issue is that he has no game. Women pursuing shy guys is not really that common, specially if they do look scary and act unapproachable like Kanji. His time skip look is unappealing too, but i see women dating these guys all the time, so this is not a deterrent, but if he has no game that just bumps him down even more.
B: Eikichi. The little I've seen of him? He had a girlfriend. Personality-wise I can see his appeal, and girls like guys that are not afraid of makeup
B-: Yosuke. Pretty average guy. can totally get a GF if he tries. Good looks and funny, but his personality as we know of holds him back a lot. potential to go higher if he improves tho, specially because of his empathy he already has plenty of
D+: Akihiko. If he tried he wouldve game, but he doesnt give a fuck. Just putting him this high because if he were to be in a relationship, he'd be a good bf, except he'll accidentally yell 'look at me, shinji!' when climaxi—
D: Junpei. begins as a sleazy ahole, but his relationship with chidori proves he is not a bad person, and has great potential. And, like, gamewise he does have some of it by being a bit of a doofus. dunno how he is time skip tho(arena)
D-: Teddie. Pretty boy, but too weird for most. Also he ends up saying shit too often
E-: Makoto. Too depressed, compulsive cheater in og, and when he gets to his best point... well, yknow... 🚪

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F+: Yusuke. Too occupied with his art and spending money on nothing. He'll attract a lot of girls by being a very pretty boy and instantly repel them the moment he opens his mouth. they are missing out smh. If he ever goes for girls, he will 100% land with an extremely autistic girl because neurotypicals ones will def not get him
F: Akechi. Not even because Akeshu, he's just horrid for a realationship despite canonically having S+++++ game.
F-: Shinjiro. Needs a watch

unmentioned: P1 and EP guys. idk enough about them, Nanjo looks like an F and Mark barely out of C just for being funny and dancing like crazy. Jun, havent gotten to that point so idk; he looks insanely gay tho. Also not Ken because, well, he's still a kid, he by definition has 0 game nor is what he's interested in (nor do i know what girls his age like lmao), and idk teenager/adult ken to tell whether he got game or not

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basically, i larped as a straight woman and def missed the mark in many areas

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(these are fun to do tho. gets me out of my comfort zone, so the creative juices go flowing)

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trust me, you do not wanna see me rate all the girls. it'd not be allowed here

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thats all you need

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# mellow pecan ~~girlkisser's posting hetero, got to ban her, sad.~~

the funny part is how easy is to say 'damn, he's hot', because i did get hammered in my head the concept of what an 'attractive man' is like, but i cant even imagine doing anything with them without wanting to barf. im just parroting honestly, you learn how to do that well :)

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"he's sooo hot dont you think?"
(what? i guess...? last time i said no i was looked at like i was crazy) "o-oh yeah what a snack"

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meanwhile me oblivious to the fact im staring rather intensely at her bossoms

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i still get cognitive dissonance at men-attracted women despite me being totally aware they are like 90% of the female population. its so hard to understand an attraction you dont share

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i do try to understand because i am a writer, i do write straight girls(!!!), gay men, etc, but i struggle to understand what supposedly clicks. its weird

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and dont look for me for great bi representation because im so insanely biased that i struggle to write the opposites part of bi 🫠

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(i TRY)

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koromaru gets all 'em bitches(literally)

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apologies to the gay gods for a straight tier list in pride month. i'll make up with an indepth analysis of every p5 yuri pairing (and good enough trios) eventually

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Today Microsoft moved all its GitHub copilot subscribers to token-based billing.
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bruh

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the bubble popped

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Could it actually be...

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happy month of junes

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i hate everything about this

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the more i look at this image the better and worse it gets. simultaneously

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tbf straight men dont necessarily want to bang every girl that throws themselves at them, but that's the boring reading, specially for june. So i declare that Akechi is the big homosex

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(he would be a shit partner because he needs all the therapy but shush)

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When I made akechi in tomodachi it felt wrong to make him anything but exclusively into guys

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He's so yaoi coded

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does tomodachi have big gay

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The new tomodachi is shockingly gay

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You can set gender identity and sexuality

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# junior smelt He's so yaoi coded

just like every girl in HSR is extremely yuri coded. like, straight ships??? how could you even conceive of this possibility??? are you a homophone???

btw i never played HSR, i just consumed F/F smut of it im not biased bye naocool

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Honkai Star Rail(ing your girl)

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if gacha games were like the fics i consume, then everyone would be aggressively gay, horny, and with 20 inche— pensivekechi

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ZZZ if it was good

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its june 1st i can be a bit extra horny on main

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Shoutout to the time arknights ||gave a horse girl a bulge and then removed it||

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COWARDS

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Smh

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im honestly so proud how much gacha has been coopted by lesbian culture, even the likes of ZZZ. inversely i hope this isnt the plan of big gacha™ to bankrupt lesbians

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sterile micaBOT
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shihoann flood to cleanse my sould

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"preying on lesbians" bitches im willingly opening my legs wdym

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terfs love to use us as props. sigh

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wow we saw the same based post

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honestly might finally go back, truly, this month. i have some other projects that i can sideline

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but delivering smth like this in june... sounds like a good goal

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tumblr shows you posts the ppl you follow liked. i saw it because you saw it adachi_true

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i forgor

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wait youre seeing all my smut then

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nah my dash is cluttered with like 20 other people

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you seeing their smut?

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i dont seek smut on tumblr thats what ao3 is for naosmiley

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i seek everywhere i go B)

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oh no im getting addicted to tumblr

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i can spam rants in a way i couldnt in any group chat

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help

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(i got a bit worked up talking of her oops)

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here in this house i kiss ALL women

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def doing transfem ken in both p3p and p3r

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i like the idea too much

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that doesn't look right imo XD

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omg i just remembered 😭
yall know who is mostly responsible for getting me into persona 5?(and coincidentally, into smt as a whole from there)

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yandere fucking dev 💀

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i unlocked childhood memories i want to keep locked

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same for me but with yandere simulator.
him and kubz scouts (not sure if you guys watched him before)

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why did i watch kubz scouts so much wth 😭 (because i was a kid at the time and thats his core demographic 🤯 )

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like, i basically watched all of yandev's videos explaining development and one CONSTANT thing he would do is glaze p5 like it was his first born, and the funny part is that seeing all this cool stuff he kept talking about got me interested in the franchise, then jonkle in smash during my school days made me give the franchise a shot

... i started with p1 because it was the first game and im this fucking autistic about it
honestly it wasnt so bad if you didnt play every other persona or smt game before

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then when i finally could afford a ps4 i got p5, the og one, it was years before royal

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deadass only got a playstation because persona. barely got to play any exclusives(and years later, just like p5, these exclusives are on steam lmao dark )

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and when he finally fucking released osana, the internet went nuts over the first ACTUAL rival besides Kokona, and now the game's just....stuck in demo mode

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i have 0 idea what happened then. i stopped following before he released her

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if i cared enough about yansim nowadays i'd probably writa a protag/osana yuri fic out of spite alone. but yansim is not worth the hours for that

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part of me is curious to know how much he changed if at all, but another part of me would rather leave this trainwreck behind

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# fresh mulch part of me is curious to know how much he changed if at all, but another part of...

hes still considering himself the victim of shit without trying to get help for it.

Basically, there's been tiny tiny updates to yan sim like adding small decorations, I don't think the crowdfunding campaign happened and if it did, it most likely didn't do well which he was REALLY needing for to finish the rivals. Aka paying animators/voice actors.

His channel's last video was a christmas video 3 years ago, any sort of bullying on his server to him is a automatic and prob perm ban.

The second rival, Amai is still in "beta" as in a incomplete Monday event.

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However, he's still actually posting comments on the latest video, either getting mad about people hating on him or thanking people still on his side

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"any sort of bullying on his server to him is a automatic and prob perm ban."
well i mean, duh lmao. not surprised he sees himself as a victim when he is constantly harassed and has his whole life documented by those people. even when i was like 14ish i found the 'yanderedev server ban speedrun' completely stupid. 'look, he banned me for being an ass!' no way???

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it couldve started as people being banned unjustly for any criticism, but when people are botting the server with provocative profiles with the sole purpose of getting banned... then they should get banned

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another thing why i barely care about this yandev shtick nowadays is how boring of drama it was. oh a creep with a patreon scam? idk but everything else around the world is going so to shit i cant find the fucks to give one way or the other

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i still wonder why yansim attracted such a childish demographic. ig adults could tell it was a sloppy patreon scam while kids had more hope that this would develop?

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Cute appearance with grimdark interior is catnip to teens

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See: mascot horror

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oh yeah that too. seems to be popular with kids-to-teens overall

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-# throwing them freddy fazballs 😩

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four evenings at fredricks

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gosh what else was popular at the time? baldi, ddlc, bendy...

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hello neighbor and those mobile grandma games...

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they were all cutese-y with horror basically

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there was a time earlier this year i caught up with the trainwreck that is fnaf, and the fandom kept saying that the last two games (ruin and mimic) are great, and like... if your standard is fnaf, then i can see how they'd be impressive dark

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ruin is an extremly onrails horror attraction, and mimic is decent, but gosh is it behind decades when it comes to horror games

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i had a fnaf phase in my early teens lol
then i got too lazy to keep up

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secret of the mimic is just boring alien isolation

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it got me into markiplier though so worth it tbh :V

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same bendy

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like, i appreciate when story was actually put into the main games, but too little too late imo. the franchise is too much of a mess(also there are BOOKS that are now canon ig???)

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i thought bendy's latest chapters lost a bunch of hype and goodwill for the franchise or smth?

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Did it?

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its what i heard at least, that it was terrible

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i wonder whatll be next. i heard the huggy stuff ran its course?

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poppy playtime's the name. always looked like slop to me

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... i'd really || || anything, wouldn't i...

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but yt kids really made huggy wuggy kid friendly when he's far from it

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seeing the theories, fanmade characters, was so cool

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the fact fanmade characters got added in the movie was awesome

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Peak male standards obviously/j

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# strong moat isn't fnaf lore like really mid too

yup. its basically 'guy kills 5 kids, then goes on a rampage and kills 5 more, then goes on another rampage and destroys the robots, the first 5 dead kids are mad (the second killing doesnt matter ig??) and trap him into a poorly constructed suit that kills him and now he's an immortal zombie that survived like 3 burnings by this point', i think that covers it

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i do think that the plot is actually rather interesting when not oversimplified, but that requires following so many theory chains and there's few games with full narratives

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i think that 3, if you follow the steps for the true ending which are hidden so not someone's first playthrough-worthy, has a rather well told minimalist story that i think is quite emotional and bittersweet honestly. the music choice def helped there

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4 has the better story so far, specially since its told through the main game. just ignore some bullshit added in canon that makes 4 absolutely nonsensical, its not in the game but rather added after

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sister location is funny and an interesting plot, but its also pretty... bleh. its best part was stuff added after release that clarified the story better and they were told by beating custom nights... yeah scott was always awful at telling a story

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the better one storywise is pizza sim, specially if you do the arcades because they help recontextualize a lot. the gameplay by itself is boring but there's some game design gems buried there imo, mainly revolving around the salvaging and ads mechanic

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and the rest is not worth discussing. the best thing of secret of the mimic is its story that feels completely disconnected despite being kinda the beginning of everything??? im confused

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anyways i hate i know this much

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anyway if you feel like playing secret of the mimic, don't. play alien isolation. its much better

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Fnaf lore used to be interesting to me when I was younger but I eventually just lost interest, specifically when the sonic series started to occupy a lot of my brain space
Dr Eggman >>>> William Afton
I watched the fnaf movies cause my little brother wanted to watch them with me but I havent touched the games past ultimate custom night

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the best way to experience modern fnaf is through astral spiff imo

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he makes the trainwrecks fun

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only sonic stuff I liked was sonic.exe which then got my into the .exe shit

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Yeah

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Astral spiff is cool

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girl typing a essay rn

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girl I don't think you can put that much, you prob gotta split it up

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i hate praising scott, yes because of pOLiTIcaL opINionS, im a lesbian, he's republican. look at whats happening right now, and do some simple goddamn math. i pirated fnaf B) but fnaf was truly at its best when they were small games focused on the defend-the-office pattern gameplay. a lot of horror at the time were walking sims and this one provided actually something different and rather addicting. steelwool(the ones that made all non point-and-click games), did NOT understand their appeal at all, instead they focus on spectacle that only is interesting because its in VR, which like, thats a wild direction for fnaf??? the lightweight games playable on phones and all??? and they continue making outdated walking sims copying other big names in the horror genre rather than continue what made fnaf unique, which are replayable short games that prioritize mechanics above all else, with simple, depressing or bittersweet lore. and yes, scott is to blame, he not only is so shit at working with a team that he couldnt give the writers of security breach the actual story, but he gases them up while they make absolute buggy slop after slop. if you used to trust scott as a gamedev, this feels fucking appaling, specially with how he made a big deal out of not selling out fnaf to the wrong people. say what you will about scott-era fnaf's ridiculous short budget and dev cycle, but the games did try to always do something unique and not be copy pastes of the previous ones, all while keeping what made the series actually interesting, even today they have value coming back to because of the interesting gameplay. but now he's just sitting by, watching this mid tier studio absolute drop the ball from afar, using the 'sCanDAl' (queer people upset at him fully supporting an explicitally anti-gay mfer because 'policies' 🙄 ) as a convenient excuse to just 'retire' from developing stuff(which is a clever choice i'll give you that)

anyway fnaf4 is a masterpiece(relative to fnaf)

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im glad that at least, from that era, undertale survived and is thriving. a lot of other indie hits either didnt make a followup or are irrelevant now

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...did i just expose that i know a lot more about fnaf than i let on? i am ashamed

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I wouldn't feel ashamed

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oh well at least pointclick fnaf vids are good stuff to have in the background when doing important stuff. a lot of repetitive sounds for my autistic brain to appreciate

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omg i miss when i could search for 'generator' on the internet and half the results werents llm slop naodead

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anyways was super bored and instead of doing anything productive nostalgia called and i decided to make a 'character fitting' pokemon team for jonkle. for some reason this was quite a popular trend. could be a good excuse for me to go back to fanart
anyway its competitively absolute garbage. i just crammed references in

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-# im proud of remoraid with round because its a pun. rounds, get it. gun? his neutral b—

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anyway good night. maybe tomorrow im productive... pft

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> no giratina

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fuck you now i have to redo it smh

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by sneasler

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BV

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(thievul... why are recent names so bad)

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thats on me, that was supposed to be :V but with shades,,

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oooh i see it now

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(its past midnight i aint redoing shit. just imagine sneasler was brought to the back and shot to give space for giratina with Shadow Force, Hyper Beam, Outrage, and Draco Meteor. little timmy approved moveset. also life orb for item) good night

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Oh yeah whatd be each pt's starter?
Jonkler - Meowscarada
Skull - Slekerdge(how do you write this shit. Fire coc)
Panther - Delphox
Fox - Samurott
Queen - Infernape
Noir - Serperior
Crow - Decidueye
Violet - uh... Primarina?

Actually why not p4 too

Yu - Partner Pikachu obviously
Yosuke - Greninja
Chie - Cinderance
Yukiko - Delphox... Again
Kanji - Chesnaught
Teddie - Blastoise(shell = fursuit. Kinda)
Naoto - Intelleon

Actually p3 too

Makoto - Intelleon's pre evolution. Forgor name
Kotone - Primarina
Yukari - Meganium...?
Junpei - Incineroar
Mitsuru - Empoleon
Akihiko - Infernape
Ken - nothing really looks like Nemesis, so, huh.... Sceptile for the tail spear?
Shinjiro - Emboar

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Now actual good night

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Dangit forgor aigis shes clearly chesnaught

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Morning

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Im in love with Rei ndocisnxxhenfowbfnf my butchy child

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One thing I dont talk as much is how much of a queen Yu is

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He is 100% comfortable in his gender and sexuality. He does not mind crossdressing nor 'playing the girl' in the group date thing

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Idk how the anime handled that, but Yu is so fecking based for having these options instead of the usual VN protag that'd have all optioms be protesting against it

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Broke: Yu is comfortable and knows who he is, so unlike yosuke's fragile teen masculinity, yu can be 'girly' and take it in stride
Woke: Yu is 🥚

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I wonder if they know what they are doing when they do these 'haha funny gay joke' moments. Or if they only see them as funny gags

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(gay as an expression. He clearly is into girls in some capacity, so bi. But yknow what i mean)

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I do wonder if people mean bi when they say yosuke is gay. Because like, you could make the case of him doing performative comphet with chie and yukiko, but saki seems rather clear cut?

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(then again, i call some of the p girls lesbians despite having the hetero romance. Canon is a suggestion sometimes)

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OH YEAH SAKI
I just remembered an issue i always had

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She was just basically introduced as 'the girl your new buddy crushes on' who is then fridged to give him motivation to drag everyone along to solve the thing, but how often yosuke refers back on saki between her death and the killer reveal???

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Not asking for him to be a sad dog all the time pissing and crinen over her, but he doesnt seem all that affected?

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Like, it does make sense if she wasn't really close to him and it was more of a teenager crush tho

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But i wish we couldve had more of a reason to care for her despite yosuke saying he cares for her

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P5 did this well imo

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We get one interaction with shiho, and that interaction alone makes shiho feel SO much more important for us. Even while she's going through a hell of her own, she worries over us and the bad rumors, because she sees the same with Ann and implies as such, the player makes the connection. She is very important to ann, and by extension shes one of the few good people in this hellish school that cares about you despite barely knowing you

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This makes the shiho situation feel SO tragic for the player. Saki's death is out of left field and you are dragged by yosuke saying he cares, shiho's violation makes everyone so, so pissed. Ryuji deeply cares about Ann, so he cares about Shiho, we care about both, and Ann cares about Shiho, it is SO much more personal

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Gosh p5's first arc is so peak. Its all downhill from here

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# strong moat I think they just lean more into the homophobic homosexual bit with Yosuke lol. ...

Yeah like, from a realistic standpoint i like the angle of a nobody for us and a distant crush for our friend being murdered. That is still awfull and like, more often to happen mathematically speaking. Like king moron's death, i was genuinely upset despite him being an abusive dirtbag, nobody deserves that. But p5 tying shiho emotionally to everyone but morgana does make for a way more compelling story narrativewise imo

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yeah it makes it feel more personal

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although I also think the way P4 does it isn't bad, like you just got here and already this girl is dead. you don't really care much but your best friend does and you meet her brother too who is obviously very affected by it

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Oh yeah they make up for sako being underwhelming through her brother

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Beat fucking social link

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Gets me right in the feels every time

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the existence of naoki konishi really justifies the protagonist not having an actual attachment to saki konishi. tbh I'm not sure how they'd actually work in a meaningful relationship between the protagonist and saki before her death anyways

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I adore how they show the different way people grief. I relate to him so much honestly

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I guess the conclusion I have is that I like the way P5 does it but I also like the way P4 does it lol

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P5 is more dramatic about it P4 is more grounded

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(P4 in general is a very grounded game and I think that's what I like so much about it)

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Yeah. P5's does better in the first arc, while P4 does better in the long run. Because P5 sucks ass with how it handled shiho after the arc was over

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honestly I really have come to appreciate P4's beginning anyways. a lot of people say it's slow and it is but it's done in a very intentional way too

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I think P5 generally would grab you more on average but P4's is subtle and again very grounded

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but its writing is generally still very grounded

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I love grounded writing personally, that doesn't really mean that it's super boring and realistic but moreso the way it touches on relationships and dynamics, and even situations you're in

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like aitsf is ridiculous and over the top sometimes but its major character dynamics feel surprisingly grounded too

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Beyond it looking stupidly funny with the tvs, i mean more in how televisions show things in spectacles, tv shows are fictional and not grounded, they show what the audience wants over the reality, which is... Thd whole point here

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right yeah

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Even 'grounded' shows like the news are sensationalised or often full of misinformation

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it's funny bc I feel like I'm always here to chime in specifically for P4 but it's my personal favorite game of all time so i have a lot to say on it

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(it was my third persona game ever too which is funny)

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technically my first and second were P5/P5R respectively so if you wanted to roll those together into one, go ahead, but still it was not my first Persona game

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I break the theory that everyone's favorite persona is their first one :p

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My first persona was the first persona in psp, and its not my favorite, but i do end up appreciating it more than it deserves tho lol

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I mean the game sucks ass to play but I think it feels very pure too

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makes sense it is the first game

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Who was in charge of making the gameplay tho??? There are like 420 elements, its like they let me with full control

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but I think it's really good when it comes to reflecting the core concepts of Persona as a series. like ||the plot hinges around Maki's different personas (the psychological concept not the in-game entity lol)||

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I really like their grid system, unfortunate it was never reused or improved upon

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personally I think the perfect number of elements would be 11

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3 phys 8 magic

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I would also settle for 3 phys 6 magic (what P3 does) but technicals are really cool

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When you play a smt game and theres no slash or sword element. Punches and cleaves are all just phy with diff crit rates pensivekechi

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P1 has like 67 elements but then they're also grouped together into categories which makes it all a bit more confusing

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many enemies will have common affinities for all elements in a category but then enough enemies have exceptions that it's just ugh

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Old smt had a lot of elements iirc, thdn they cut down in nocturne

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more elements is not a good thing

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it's just confusing for no good reason

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Nocturned turned a bunch of these superfluous elements as inheritance traits. Like needles becoming phys and demons that can learn needle inherit those

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Then p4 simplified to phys/gun. Smt5's phys is just phys tho. The only bad part about it

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Smt4*

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I was gonna ask

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lol

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P5 having 2 phys is nice bc P4 going down to 1 phys was a mistake

but then P5 immediately fumbles by giving everyone guns

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Enemies with gun weakness 💀

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I just think that everyone having 2 phys types defeats the point of having 2 phys affinities

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I also just find P5's party member balance boring though

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everyone ends with ma-dynes of their respective element. what happened to Chie having no good magic skills or Junpei only having single target magic

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there is simply no equivalent to Naoto in P5

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etc

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P5's level up learnset is so formulaic and boring. P5 in general is full of formulaic stuff

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oh and none of it matters bc of jazz in P5R

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Sure robin hood is a front and not is true self, but if his front can have hamaon, it can have oneshot kill

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Akechi is just a shitty all arounder and Robin Hood is weak to curse

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yeah this is why I don't like how much jazz lets you mess with your skills in P5R

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the optimal setup ends up just being gods hand on everyone lmao

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Why do you think I never use it again after the first playthrough

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I for one embrace makoto's god's hand—

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Im trying being careful with giving everyone access to nobrainer skills

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Spell master is just bad for the game. It makes the one ocassion where you should watch for sp, late game strong skill spam, and makes it a non issue

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It limits movesets so much. And dont even get me started on the charges

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high SP skills in P5R are shit

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Cosmic flare, double the sp, 50% more base damage or smth

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they are better than their dyne equivalents but cost far more than their effectiveness if that makes sense

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So ass

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yeah lol

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I don't think spell master is fundamentally bad actually but SP just becomes a non issue anyways and it's just not worth using the stronger skills if you're thinking about cost

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Its like if fire blaat in pokemom did 100 damage and had 85 acc. Sure it does more damage than flamethrower, but that is NOT worth it 😭

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Flamethrower is around 80-90 depending on the game fore ref, 100% accurate

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Fire blast is 120 damage, 85 acc, and the damage diff in pokemon's formula makes it worth it the inconsistency

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(i use acc here because PP doesnt matter. Pokemon's sp management system is ass)

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I feel like they have them be this expensive because spell master exist, which would def be unhealthy for the game, and could explain the 'ultimate' elemental skills being overpriced too

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yeah I mean a problem is that everyone can get spell master lmao

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but if say for example, you needed Ann on your team to have the SP reduction, there's potentially a reason to bring her on your team if you're going magic

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of course that also requires a few other things. for example, magic needs to not suck ass and SP needs to be a factor

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Did ann have it base kit in og? (I can just google but im lazy)

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spell master? I think so but I'm talking her persona trait in royal

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Oh yeah that too. I love party member traits because even if they get to barely do anything thanks to the enemies' resists, at least they benefit everyone

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But its another part that makes the game even more brainless sadly. Enemies again not adjusted for them

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Enemies shouldve gotten traits smh

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I honestly think enemies not having traits is fine, maybe for major enemies/bosses they should've

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the game just was not balanced around those traits (ex: enemies could be dealing more damage or being tankier)

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The standard im going for for enemy bulkyness is like, 3 well used baton pass chains on average

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Its kinda hard to balance around such a ridiculously wide variable like baton pass. Press turn or simple 1 more are easier

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Baton pass is really fun tho, and has a LOT of strategic depth, its just not in the right game for it

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Any mechanic that allows manipulation of turn order will not only be really strong, but increase the depth of the systems a lot

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I love pq2's spotlight for this for example

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Pokemon does well since the first game without fancy gimmicks. Attacks with priority are always so good because of the turn order manipulation, then there was trick room which made a whole archetype of slow sweepers, then there are nicher stuff like quash that... Exist, but they tried

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I played dq11 and the battle system was very... Boring, until the gay guy got the skill 'ladies first', and just being able to give his turn to another female party member made the game SO much more fun and requiring of a neuron

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fuuka just heals you continuously

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Sylvando was in every party i love versatile supports. Such necessary glues