#[P5R PC] Take Your Time | [FEMC & Yuri] Story and Gameplay Overhaul

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strong moat
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like idk... however you see Ann, I feel like her having the romance prompt in that scene is just.... bad

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I mean the whole thing just sucks all around

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my mod simply fixes the dialogue bc it was a very easy change lol

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and like no it does not make the rank suddenly good it just makes it less bad

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you fix that dialogue and it still has the issues of, why is the romance prompt even here in the first place

fresh mulch
strong moat
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would it not have been possible to move that scene to rank 8 and then have the romance in rank 9?

simple knoll
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I was eventually gonna make a full "better rejection" mod after I made the haru one but I never did

strong moat
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like oh, ann is spending time alone with jonkler and is like oh you've been so supportive of me and blah blah blah

fresh mulch
strong moat
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why is that not a separate rank

simple knoll
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I really didn't like futaba's rejection either. you basically dismiss her feelings and say "everyone feels like this toward their friends" instead of telling her you don't feel the same way or that you see her as a sister

strong moat
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like i guess when you look at rise's, the issue there is that a lot of people want to hug her bc she is sobbing her eyes out but other than that bit, i don't see the romance prompt there being nearly as offensive bc she's actively shown interest in the protag the whole time and in that moment you show that you are serious about it

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not nearly as bad as whatever the heck is going on with ann rank 9 lol

fresh mulch
strong moat
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the hug stuff itself is something where i think there is a cultural barrier there bc i would also want to hug her platonically too but

fresh mulch
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i think people obsess too much over the cultural barrier explanation

simple knoll
strong moat
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i mean that's what we have bc i just don't know japanese culture lol

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personally i would rather have the option to hug and then romance or platonic but they made that intentional choice to have the hug be romantic

simple knoll
fresh mulch
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well, i wouldnt trust persona to be the best at portraying the culture in a more mature manner in the first place. its still very aimed at young teenager boys

strong moat
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the way it's written i do not think standing there is meant to be an asshole choice

simple knoll
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it sure felt like it 😭

strong moat
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the asshole choice would be to laugh it off or leave or something

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but in both cases, she asks you to stay with her, and you do so

fresh mulch
simple knoll
fresh mulch
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seems like a lot of socially stunted guys end up becoming mangakas there

simple knoll
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ehhh

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even women mangaka can be batshit

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Japan I've noticed seems to be a lot less ostrcising when it comes to letting the weirdos express themselves

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if you put a visual novel writer in America? their ideas would never get approved

fresh mulch
strong moat
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i find it interesting too bc i think most of us in the west are like. man. did we really need a hot springs trope

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but they keep putting them in lol

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clearly their japanese audiences like those tropes

fresh mulch
strong moat
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do the tropes bother me enough that they weigh down the games? no but with a lot of them i'm just like... man can we not

simple knoll
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and I don't wanna be the classic "japan has better writing!!" weeb but I do think most of the weirdos who come up with some of the best fiction don't really get a lot of lime light in the west and end up on... ao3 webtoon yknow online stuff instead of true publication

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in essence I don't think it's a bad thing we get weirdos expressing themselves

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free speech is a gift

simple knoll
simple knoll
fresh mulch
strong moat
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like perfect example actually is persona 4 bc it has a lot of those tropes! do the tropes weigh down the game for me, absolutely not, but i wish they didn't feel the need to have so many cringe moments lol

simple knoll
fresh mulch
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so you dont have that many opportunities to prop up a random joe

strong moat
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(p4 being the game that i think has the most instances of those tropes)

simple knoll
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I don't watch a lot of western shows and movies because they're so BORING we need more freaks and weirdos on the big screen

strong moat
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p5 doesn't have a hot springs scene it does have the ryuji beatdown scene but let's ignore that which was nice but then p5s adds two of them so lol lmao

simple knoll
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I'd say western games are some of the only western media I consume

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the freaks seem to go toward games

strong moat
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one of the hot springs scenes just being cringe and one of them being among the worst hot springs scenes in the whole series

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notice how I didn't mention tactica? yeah :)

fresh mulch
strong moat
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so really it depends

fresh mulch
strong moat
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yes

fresh mulch
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i've seen better hot springs scene in harem trash good lord

strong moat
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I think the strikers second hot springs scene is offensive for different reasons than the golden one... tbh I think they're pretty close but I think the new golden one is the worst when it comes to bastardizing the characters

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like its weird to say that the writers did not understand the characters but I think that scene had almost everyone actively acting OOC

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strikers also kinda has characters acting OOC but it's more like the P3 hot springs scene. the other offensive thing about it that no other hot springs scene has is how bad the pacing is with the addition of that scene

fresh mulch
strong moat
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literally the next scene is very serious and no other hot springs scene has such tonal whiplash

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agreed

simple knoll
fresh mulch
simple knoll
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there's no point in being holier than though and saying people shouldn't exercise their free speech unless they are actively hurting somebody

fresh mulch
simple knoll
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by doing one kind of censorship you open the door to all kinds of other censorship. it's better to never entertain the idea of censorship in the first place

fresh mulch
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🙄

simple knoll
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it's why the current laws being proposed are such a threat right now

fresh mulch
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got it. lets not censor csam while we are at it. its a slippery slope after all

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can yall americans stop turning off your brains the moment anything freeze peach feels threatened

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no society is free holy shit

fresh mulch
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this whole subculture is absolutely sickening and treated as normal

simple knoll
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I keep forgetting you're not american for some reason

fresh mulch
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yeah im not brainwashed

simple knoll
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your english sounds very native

mellow pecan
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A girlkisser, one might say.

simple knoll
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I'm not "brainwashed" I'm just libertarian lol in fact both democrats and republicans would disagree with me

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Libertarianism (from French: libertaire, lit. 'libertarian'; or from Latin: libertas, lit. 'freedom') is a political philosophy that holds freedom, personal sovereignty, and liberty as primary values. Many libertarians believe that the concept of freedom is in accord with the non-aggression principle, according to which each individual has t...

fresh mulch
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idk snapping calling others 'holier than thou' the moment they exercise their right of free speech by calling others out sounds a bit kneejerky at least

strong moat
fresh mulch
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im just asking to rub two braincells together

strong moat
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let's wrap this up pls

strong moat
simple knoll
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ok last thing I'll say simply as an apology, I didn't mean to come off as restricting you. you're allowed to hold such opinions and I'm sorry if it felt like I was attacking you

strong moat
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you meet them you find out about their problems you go into mementos and they find out you're a phantom thief

simple knoll
fresh mulch
strong moat
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I think I can actually make the argument that the writers are writing the characters ooc bc golden was 4 years after P4 lol, they probs had different writers or even if they had the exact same writers they might not treat those characters the same

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golden exclusive scenes tend to be more flanderized than the original game scenes although I think the Marie hot springs scene is just uniquely bad, I find the other scenes not nearly that bad

fresh mulch
strong moat
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(this isn't universally applicable either, a lot of the night convos in P4G are very interesting insights into the characters that add new content or expand on existing content without feeling ooc)

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another good example is strikers actually

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some of their flanderization really shows that they're latching onto specific character traits more than anything

fresh mulch
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how often ann talks about sweets again there? must be often at least from how much they talk about food in general

strong moat
fresh mulch
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wdym ann is clearly gay the writers just dont know it

... /j

strong moat
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also there was a scene in strikers where I felt it would have been a really good Ann scene

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but for some reason they decided to have Makoto play that role

fresh mulch
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oh yeah talking about makoto strikers, the fact that she isn't on johanna all the time instantly makes that game a 0/10 sorry

simple knoll
fresh mulch
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wdym she only rides a bike on some combos???

strong moat
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I have always been mixed on Makoto so like... yeah

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I will say she is part of the reason why the strikers hot springs scene sucks ass

fresh mulch
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they really wanted a mitsuru 2.0

simple knoll
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I actually purposefully didn't max makoto on my last playthriugh bc I like her bike too much

strong moat
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mitsuru reload has some Makoto traits

simple knoll
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someone should make a mod that lets her keep the bike

fresh mulch
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makoto rides anat mod

simple knoll
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that...

strong moat
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while we're at it my potentially hot take is that I don't like much of the 3rd semester personas being a split between the initial and ultimate persona

fresh mulch
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arent her persona animations a bit janky because of the anat switch?

strong moat
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some of the ultimate persona designs are a miss but I think what they did for 3rd semester is disappointing

simple knoll
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I thought I remember they just gave her normal animations for anat

fresh mulch
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eh i wouldnt remember now, but from what i think i remember is some interpolation between the bike and standing animations? idk mind's foggy

simple knoll
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I never noticed

fresh mulch
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i like the narrative theme behind them, much better thematically than 4g imo

strong moat
# fresh mulch well the dating is just a manifestation of one issue. its just a rather jarring ...

back to this bc I meant to respond but forgot. honestly I think all romances being at rank 9 isn't necessarily an issue. the issue is everything being formulaic. P4 for example does most romances at rank 8 iirc and I do not think it has any issues with the links feeling formulaic (I understand p4 is not 100% consistent with this but)

I think there is a bigger argument to be made about how romances in social links lead to typically worse writing than the platonic routes as they need to work in the romance stuff; there are only a few exceptions to this but maybe that's beyond the scope of this

fresh mulch
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sumi's romance route is one of the more natural ones because of the inherit pacing its tied to by the story imo

strong moat
fresh mulch
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plus, she initiates clearly and unambiguously, thats quite new

strong moat
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say what you will about some of the P5 ult persona designs but some are an actual departure from the the initial designs and I like how that reflects their substantial growth in the story/their links

strong moat
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I just find the trend funny but like it's true! one of the most fun examples to bring up is Reload Aigis; her platonic social link is just. significantly better than her romance route sorry not sorry

fresh mulch
strong moat
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interesting

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definitely curious bc there's probably some significance I've missed there, I think I am more focusing on their designs than the figures they're based off of yk

fresh mulch
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idk how intentional any of this is, but one thing is that they are the real figures stripped out of their fictional title (ignore goemon), which ties a lot with maruki's plotline of breaking away from a role that was set out for you and take control of your own destiny

strong moat
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I just wonder if they really needed to present it as a fusion of their initial and ultimate Personas

fresh mulch
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i wouldnt really call it regressing, i think its a significant step in the themes of growing up

strong moat
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I guess one way it could be seen is that they're facing who they used to be too but I just don't know how well that works given the context of their 3rd semester evolutions

strong moat
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aigis's social link is among the best in P3 and I think the platonic end just closes it out so nicely

simple knoll
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I like my autistic robot girl too much

royal sage
fresh mulch
royal sage
strong moat
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when were those statistics taken? I find it hard to believe it's 80/20 nowadays

fresh mulch
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not surprising, considering how much women are driven out of otaku circles

fresh mulch
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p3/4 i def see it

strong moat
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mhm

simple knoll
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yeah

strong moat
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I'd say if it was somehow still 80/20 by P5, P5R and P4G32 should've killed it by now

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and if somehow they didn't, multiplat absolutely should've ended that

simple knoll
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I think p5 reached a lot more women since in the west more women started gaming around then

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the time it came out I mean

strong moat
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keep in mind too P4G 2020 did a lot for the series

royal sage
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largely the fanbase overlaps with the amount of anime fans which is generally a similar overlap atleast for the original games, persona 5 reached more mainstream audiences due to it becoming popular across several crossovers with other Nintendo games

simple knoll
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before maybe 2014 gaming was very much "a guy thing"

strong moat
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i do not think ATLUS has ever officially given a reason why they decided to pursue multiplat but I think it's because P4G 2020 was so successful

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they already stated it far exceeded their expectations

simple knoll
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oh yeah for sure

strong moat
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another P4 W risepray

simple knoll
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they 100% made a shit ton on the p5r port to pc

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in the west anyway

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I'm sure the switch port was popular in japan

strong moat
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yeah P5R multiplat was gonna be a huge success haha and it was

royal sage
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i think by now theyre probably starting to see that the female audience is more outspoken about wanting representation in the west

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which is why royal had kasumi in the works as a female protagonist before she was changed back into a side character

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and why persona 3 reload atleast considered kotone since some of her fields are in the game files as testing zones (though not functional)

strong moat
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I think I would've respected Persona 3 Reload a lot more if they had committed to FEMC

royal sage
strong moat
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I am not disagreeing

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I am saying I would have respected the game more if it had FEMC

simple knoll
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they didn't even originally intend to add the answer

strong moat
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well

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they did

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and then they stopped

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and then they resumed

royal sage
simple knoll
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which I find hilarious bc when people wanted a remake it's because they wanted a combination of fes and portable, and instead they made a remake of VANILLA

royal sage
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there was no reason to assume that the addition wouldve sold well

strong moat
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it's funny bc at least in the west a lot of the Yukari discourse was in like the 2010s, in the last few years prior to reload it really did start to die down as people started really understanding that her writing was actually really solid

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and then they made all the changes they did anyways...

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I know I saw a bit of Japanese persona twitter complaining about the new changes too but I wouldn't know too much, I'm not on that side of the fandom

royal sage
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junpei aswell had a similar issue

strong moat
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I mean I'm talking about the answer though

royal sage
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mitsuru was already essentially the team leader and he had zero issue with that but when kotone took the head it becomes an issue?

strong moat
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well I think that one makes some sense with how it was written

royal sage
strong moat
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mitsuru was already the current leader of the team with more experience

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she appoints the protagonist as the field leader, Junpei gets mad in both routes (but there's the added misogyny in the FEMC route)

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which of course Mitsuru promptly shuts down but yk

strong moat
royal sage
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i still think if they were going to make a secret fight for episode of aigis it shouldve been kotone instead of joker

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joker gets added to everything

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you had an alternate reality persona user and you choose joker?

strong moat
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at least this way, it's also joker who gets the flak for being the worst designed superboss fight in persona history

royal sage
strong moat
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ah yes if you apply all 3 buffs to yourself you should be nuked

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that's so awesome

royal sage
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is this more suited for persona chat

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or would it be persona spoilers chat

fresh mulch
# fresh mulch idk how intentional any of this is, but one thing is that they are the real figu...

cap kidd: an embellished pirate legend
william kidd: the real man behind it (funfact, he's a major fraud lmao)

zorro: cmon its the zorro guy who doesnt know it
diego: the name of the character that masquerades as zorro

carmen: character from a famous theater show
celestine: the name of the actor in which the character of carmen was written for

goemon: the legendary and hard-boiled ||badum ts|| japanese guy
gorokichi: his childhood nickname from when he was training

johanna: woman that dressed as a man and rose to papacy in spite of her society (she may or may not have existed)
agnes: pope joan's real name in some accounts

necronomicon: a book in hp lovecraft's universe that contains spoopy stuff
al azif: its real arabic name

milady: woman condemned thief and branded with a fleur de lis, who is then hanged by her husband (one of the three musketeers, who defeats her in the end) the instant he discovers that she had that mark. milady survives and seeks revenge as an antagonist. this is probably why the milady persona has no head, with just a mask she holds up in its place
lucy: the countess that was an inspiration for milady's character

robin hood: cmon its robin hood
hereward: a real(citation needed) nobleman that allegedly led a resistance against a corrupt england in the 11th century. its said that robin hood was isnpired by him

cendrillon: cinderella's french name, which is actually a mocking nickname given by her sisters, because she is often covered in ashes
ella: cinderella's true name

strong moat
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it applies to this chat actually bc it tells gk what not to do with boss design adachi_true

fresh mulch
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(its past midnight here btw. what am i doing)

simple knoll
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it's 1 am here and I need to go to school. it's fine

fresh mulch
royal sage
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majorly i think the thing with kotone is that they may have some regrets with the character and just didnt want to pull up old drama, there are parts of the community for portable that liked kotone as a concept but didnt like her execution at all

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theyre fairly outspoken about it

fresh mulch
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yeah we didnt even get to sesbian lex mitsuru with her pensivekechi

fresh mulch
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"theres a mod for that" - sun tzu

strong moat
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honestly I think FEMC route is largely pretty good in p3, I think people complain too much about surface level changes without having a good understanding of why those changes are made and how a lot of the time they do not actively worsen the writing

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there are valid things to complain about (Ken social link) but idk I find a lot of the criticism of FEMC route isn't really in good faith/doesn't have anything meaningful to it

fresh mulch
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while p3 ost was already great, the femc route tops it sorry not sorry

royal sage
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which made several social links awkward

fresh mulch
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power scalers will goon

strong moat
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atlus is going to issue a c&d against you because they were already planning that for p4r

royal sage
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p4r you get to fight kasumi (this is never explained) and she can one shot you with attacks never shown in game

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why? because you decided to be curious and engage the challenge fight

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the reward if you win? 2 nickels

fresh mulch
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ig she'll be the first boss to get a swimsuit dlc

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If you dont know me well, it might seem like im a constantly bitter bitch

If you do know me well, it might seem like im a constantly bitter bitch

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Good night im eepy

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By the end of this week i might be back to this project at full force, or half force, or a quarter force— you get the idea

simple knoll
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I love the lore reason for joker showing up is that bc of the way the realm works someone just wished for someone really strong to fight

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and the sea of souls was like "hmmmm this guy"

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this implies that time doesn't apply to the sea of souls which is kind of cool

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where did the reply go

simple knoll
royal sage
strong moat
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oh yeah and I think it was fucking Akihiko too which makes it even worse bc reload does not know how to write Akihiko apparently

royal sage
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also im pretty sure Izanagi-no-Okami is technically stronger than satanael

royal sage
strong moat
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ok reload changes the writing of all the charactera to some extent but man what they did with Akihiko is just so bad

royal sage
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training is all that matters in life for boxers and punching shadows is fun

strong moat
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this shit happens after October 4th and it's during the time they're dealing with their grief towards p3mc too lol lmao

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the fact that Akihiko is still acting like this in reload just really goes to show how little they understood his character sometimes bc the changes they made were just. worse

simple knoll
royal sage
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not infinite but its not like there was any actual time passing

simple knoll
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maybe they got bored of fighting weaklings

royal sage
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at that point wanting to fight strong people should be on nobodies mind

royal sage
simple knoll
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lmao

lavish helm
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yeah true i dont really see anything romantic about joker with makoto at all

simple knoll
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it's so obviously comphet it hurts

lavish helm
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the most obvious ships to me are joker and akechi and yukari and mitsuru

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and ann and shiho

simple knoll
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those are the basic bitch ships lol

lavish helm
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yeah im aware

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i dont really read too far into that stuff because i really do not care

uncut depot
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tbf if youre an english speaker the straight-up mistranslation stands out like a sore thumb adachi_true

uncut depot
uncut depot
# simple knoll I think it's a common fantasy among japanese men since they'd never get away wit...

i mean thing is i figure a lot of guys do wanna see girl booba but dont want to feel like a creep for doing but also are too socially stunted to ever get to see booba consensually, (remember that a lot of these people straight up cant leave the house,) so slop writers contrive ways for the male lead who the assumed-male viewer is meant to project on to have horni shit just sorta fall into their lap (sometimes literally)

uncut depot
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im not gonna reheat that shit i just scrolled past despite my animal brain already reacting with salt

simple knoll
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"reheat that shit" lmaooo

fresh mulch
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Good morning im gay

simple knoll
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goo morning gay i'm raven

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i haven't slept at all

fresh mulch
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Btw ann and makoto are now both officially comphet in my mind and no amount of canon will change that

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(only /hj)

simple knoll
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lol welcome to the best headcanon

fresh mulch
simple knoll
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i'm not on adhd meds

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i'm just like this lol

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but theoretically that can be true

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you're likely taking stimulants. just make sure to take them as soon as you wake up

fresh mulch
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Im not much like this. If anythinf i was calling it beds before 10pm often lately

fresh mulch
fresh mulch
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If anything, teenager boys want to seek out stuff outside their age rating quite often (pretends i wasnt like this as a teenager girl)

fresh mulch
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You cant convince me that futaba isnt fecking a computer wait what

simple knoll
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the fact that p5 is rated M is so funny to me bc it so obviously caters to teenagers

fresh mulch
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No no it toally caters to adults look you can date them!!!(Ignore that teenagers often fantasize about adults)

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I know because i had a mommy thing for as far as i remember

fresh mulch
strong moat
fresh mulch
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Completely missed this but i get the idea

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Well im still a programmer even if begrudgingly

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the trans girls i've ever interacted with directly all fit the uwu programmer stereotype to a t and often joked about it, so ig that rubbed on me a bit

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but there's not much that prevents someone like makoto for example from being headcanoned as trans like futaba

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oh wait bad example, she's very autistic too

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uhhh nothing prevents ann from— oh yeah kamoshida. thatd change canon quite a bit

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haru also wouldnt work well because of the fiance subplot...

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there isnt many non canon-warping options actually

fresh mulch
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if i were to guess what my intentions are for this specific au...
ryuji - straight as a ruler
mona - straight
ann - pansexual('bisexual' for laymen)
yusuke - appreciates the female form in all ways but romantic or sexually. might have gender fuckery going on too?
makoto - baby butch lesbian
futaba - trans girl. still have no idea if transbian or... transpan? transbi?
haru - my yuri heart wants the 'lesbian flees arranged marriage with a guy for our heroine' trope, but narrative-wise, i think having her be bi works better
akechi - ??????????
sumi - extremely closeted bisexual and she's so deep in the closet she has no idea she's in one

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while i'd absolutely love for transfem sumi, i cant easily ignore the contrived logistics that the story would require for it ||(also, the insane tucking. like girl how do you do it??)||

lavish helm
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i first played p5r when i was 14

fresh mulch
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sameish

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only knew the m rating years later too

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i should hopefully be coming back to the project this week

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meanwhile i'll continue drawing obscenities

uncut depot
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also yusuke feels biromantic ace to me
lmao

fresh mulch
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he'd date a painting at least

uncut depot
simple knoll
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yusuke is pansexual to me bc in my mind gender does not exist for him lol

simple knoll
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I watched attack on titan when I was in elementary

fresh mulch
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yusuke is 'yes'

weary rapids
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He is yes

fresh mulch
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yes/yes

uncut depot
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lowkey im a demigirl futaba believer though that ones projection from me being kin lmao

fresh mulch
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nah not projection. i see it too

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my gay ass when she remembers that female characters can be straight (i was projecting in every single one of them)

simple knoll
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the phantom thieves otherwise known as the bisexual thieves

fresh mulch
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i thought that was p4

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what if every single persona game from 1 to 5 is just actually full of bisexuals?

fresh mulch
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is yusuke blue hair with pronounce

strong moat
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might also be European

fresh mulch
fresh mulch
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whats up with using 'what' for completely understandable sentences

grand cipher
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cuz I kinda like the idea of it, but you did it first

fresh mulch
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thats a reply of all time

fresh mulch
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its part of all of their arcs, but they wont necessarily follow an exact pattern like, 'its kaneshiro palace, so shadow makoto', its more in a case by case basis

fresh mulch
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i love women

fresh mulch
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holy i can barely keep my eyelids open

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gn

fresh mulch
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Morning may today be a yuriful day

fresh mulch
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never watched this season but best girl

simple knoll
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why did no one watch part 6 smh it's the best part

fresh mulch
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i stopped after 2

strong moat
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part 6 is good until you get to the ending

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also the only female jojo (protag) up to this point so there's that

simple knoll
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only part 6 ending hater

strong moat
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I thought it was generally considered controversial lol but yes I dislike it quite a lot

weary rapids
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Am I seeing fake JoJo fans

simple knoll
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I thought those who thought it was "bad" didn't really get it bc I saw a lot of people misinterpreting it

strong moat
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idk I'm not in the jojo community lol

simple knoll
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understandable

strong moat
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I think personally I understood the intent of it I just still didn't like the direction taken overall

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my understanding was that there are people who like it, people who don't like it bc they don't understand it, and people who understand it but don't like it. and the people who don't like it are a decent amount of people
(note if one is going to assume all people who dislike it just don't understand it, that's kind of a flawed way of thinking lol)

simple knoll
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if you mean like it being the end of that timeline we saw I thought it was a good "the threat of dio is dead forerver" type thing

strong moat
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it's a shame too bc jolyne is honestly one of my favorite jojos

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I just don't fw the ending

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the one female protagonist JoJo has (so far) and ||ultimately she ends up dying lol (and yes her soul makes it through the universe resets to become Irene but the whole thing is still more or less erasing who she was and what she went through)||

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oh also one more thing... I read part 6 so I didn't have to deal with this. the anime release schedule was fucking atrocious

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like actually what were they thinking

simple knoll
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but you see people can binge watch!!!

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fr like Jojo Friday is so iconic

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I hope they bring it back for sbr

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I got into Jojo right after the final "part" of 6 came out so I was fine

fresh mulch
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all i know is that jolyne is pretty naotoflushed

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as i said, i love women

simple knoll
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araki's editors thought that a female protagonist wouldn't be good for a shonen (boy's) magazine but it ended up being well received in shonen jump

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women power

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also kind of showed the series's transition to seinen

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I think sbr wasn't published in shonen jump

fresh mulch
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who's the top

simple knoll
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uhhh

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ermes

mellow pecan
strong moat
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hmm are there any more anime transfems for me to yuripost

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i fear that you should probably be able to count them all in two hands pensivekechi

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well, at least it could be worse... (looking at trans men in anime media)

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a bit unrelated, but bruh, gamedev vids in youtube shorts is basically just solving a 'problem' with very industry-standard solutions. "look at how i FIXED these sprites overlapping with each other by using a layer system 😎 (please wishlist me)"

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i wish i could find ways to monetise my boring busywork like they do

simple knoll
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ok he's not confirmed but i hallucinate

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wait actually this just adds to your point

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more transmascs ‼️

fresh mulch
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i cant take kurapika's name seriously (it sounds like 'heal dick' in portuguese 😭 )

simple knoll
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LMAO

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i like when kurapika disguises as woman and says "you shouldn't assume things about people"

fresh mulch
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oh yeah hxh has alluka

simple knoll
simple knoll
# fresh mulch oh yeah hxh has alluka

kurapika is actually regarded with no pronouns in japanese (since it's really easy to just... not use them in japanese) it was just translated as he/him

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the mangaka is woke

fresh mulch
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i still dont forgive him for traumatizing me for life with the chimera ants, but yeah he's cool

simple knoll
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wait omg

fresh mulch
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i heard of yu yu hakusho having a bit of queernes too?

simple knoll
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i recognize kurapika's english va as a persona va i'm looking this up

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yeah tehre's a trans woman in yu yu hakusho

#

ANN TAKAMAKI'S VOICE ACTOR???

fresh mulch
simple knoll
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persona 4 core

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you're like 100x more likely to find a trans woman in anime because they're actually like the only trans people japan really recognizes

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it's why kiku was done way better than yamato in one piece

fresh mulch
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its p4 revival because it be reviving the dead horse of many discourses

simple knoll
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10 more years of naoto discource

fresh mulch
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what did we do to deserve this...

fresh mulch
simple knoll
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i usually say yamato isn't trans but he was intended to be. oda just doesn't know how trans men work

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also being a man was almost forced on him so it's uhhhh is he traumatized or trans?

fresh mulch
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yes

simple knoll
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basically his dad was mad he didn't have a son so he just treated yamato like one

fresh mulch
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considering how the oden bit is treated more as one of the many running gags (in specific portraying yamato as a bit cray cray), i dont think that reading was intentional. but im not sure my reading that ann wants to **** shiho was intentional either, so does the vague, unconfirmed author intent matter here?

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i dont really believe in a 'death of the author(that is still alive) and free for all' extreme, but i also think that original intent does matter when it comes to reading the message that was being sent... as long as it makes sense (looking at jk rowling's old 'word of god' tweets about hp, before she went to the deep end...)

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i can also say that i understand the intent, but i think it stinks anyway so i'll make all girls kiss mwuah

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good night

fresh mulch
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morning good

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queenposting

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i cant wait to get to the makoann part of the mod. why must you be in the way, madarame??? pensivekechi

weary rapids
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Cuz he wants AI art to be the future and we can’t have that GK

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We have to do the right thing

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For Makoann

fresh mulch
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huh, madarame would totally use ai if he could get away with it thinking about it

weary rapids
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That’s why I call him the AI artist cuz he’d definitely use it

fresh mulch
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(was going through some old messages) oh yeah btw she's pretty naotoflushed

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i love women

fresh mulch
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another W for yuri 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

trim onyx
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She needs the love

rustic shadow
trim onyx
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Yes! She was! Give me back my bestie!

fresh mulch
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still havent done the femc route so idk what this is about

trim onyx
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Welp

fresh mulch
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talking about it, tackling the infamous slinks of p3 will be interesting...

fresh mulch
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im wanting to go back badly to the mod...

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before that i wanna use this break to setup an account for my art... but which site should i use...

fresh mulch
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hm... i should def draw some yuri p5 fanart, which is sorely lacking (specially yuri not drawn by men for men dark )

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next time i take a break ig. but which pairing... maybe sumitaba?

fresh mulch
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yukari tops 100%

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mitsuru is secretly a bottom

wicked minnow
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oh boy, another reason to play through P5R again

fresh mulch
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just a reminder that the first demo will still take a few months at worst(its just the first ingame month). this'll probably be a multi-year project considering the scope of what i wanna add tbh

wicked minnow
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honestly that makes it even more exciting imo. Means you're putting a lot of thought and effort into it!

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waiting for quality is so worth

fresh mulch
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looking at the pins will give a good overview of what im going for

wicked minnow
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understood

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It looks so cool

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Very interested to see all the changes in action

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And waiting is something I'm used to as a Deltarune fan lmao

fresh mulch
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waiting is something im used to as a smt and persona fan

wicked minnow
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Gonna have the mod done before we get a single piece of news on P6

jovial turret
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But I assume both would be correct

fresh mulch
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oh no i dont have to wait for that

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in fact, im drawing my own wait what

fresh mulch
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good night

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maybe in a few days i'll be back on this

lavish helm
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id be very interested in playing this even though its the complete opposite of what ive grown to like persona for

fresh mulch
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Good morning to the gay people only

uncut depot
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yaoi?

fresh mulch
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Ah yes persona. My favorite yaoi series adachi_true

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Mr Fox, 26 September 2022 in 4K.

He had a slight eye infection when this was recorded. I was on standby to give him antibiotics but it cleared up by itself.

Recorded using a DJI Osmo Pocket II with extension handle. This lets me sit back in a comfortable chair, controlling the camera with the extension, while the camera itself sits on my foot....

▶ Play video
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naocool 🏳️‍⚧️ (yes ive been doomscrolling how can you tell)

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(btw jkkk rowling is a threat to all women not just trans people)

fresh mulch
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RaidouThink hmm minmaxing.... idk if you can say if it is or isn't here

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in one hand, you have to actually engage with the mechanics and properly utilize available turns to reduce amount of enemy turns, since not only are they strong, but they also increase the palace alert that also doessn't go down on its own (either have to get out and wait a bit, or use a craftable item to reduce it)

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but on the other hand, i'm adding as much as possible to make an 'optimal path' not obvious

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multiple completely different ways to build your teammates, a lot more personas with more skill variety, different ways to raise social stats that are not inherently superior than other ways, etc

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ideally i want something beatable for most paths the player is able to take mechanically, so that aspect isn't much of a minmax if i pull it off

fresh mulch
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'difficulty' in a turnbased rpg with as many options as smt or pokemon always got me scratching my head thinking about how you can even make it work consistently across the game

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early game of most of these games is the hardest because you dont have options, but the further you get into the game, the more opportunities you have to just make the right builds to melt bosses

strong moat
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yeah it's funny bc you start off early game and you don't even have revive skills

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I mean I really think it's a case of, as you give the player more tools, you need to give them a reason to use said tools

fresh mulch
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~~okay so what if i have bosses spam, as much random bullshit as possible to punish you for not bringing every possible tool for that combat naocool ~~

strong moat
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random bullshit go!

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honestly that's something I think they should have done for the shadow Rise fight

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it would make sense for one lol

fresh mulch
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only /hj because i'm trying to have more skill variety too, and that includes having more overlapping effects shared across skills, which should hopefully be enough to give the player more opportunities to use said tools, and allows bosses to be more liberal with using diverse mechanics(of course, wihin reason)

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ig relying more on the three-turn buffs/debuffs during fights is a good way to add difficulty, since it introduces a resource management aspect you have to juggle and adapt around what the boss is doing

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i havent played smt 1 and 2, but while nocturne does ask you to use buffs/debuffs, that is more of a knowledge check than a mechanic that adds difficulty, since not only they dont wear off, but they also stack

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smt4 i barely paid attention to them, and 5 did it best imo by borrowing from persona (as well as having a max stack of 2 for each buff)

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the press turn system from mainline is also a good way of adding skill expression to the turn based rpg format, and similarly, p5's baton pass is imo one of the better implementations of this idea... if it wasnt in such a piss easy game

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how is the reload 1more system? dont remember if i heard mostly negative things from it or not

strong moat
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it's more of the same

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I actually think reload shift is worse than P5R baton pass

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it's weaker and arguably more "balanced" but it also feels more rewarding in royal

fresh mulch
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tbf a mechanic is as balanced as the environment its in

strong moat
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in metaphor they do multi level buffs/debuffs but they also have a turn limit. I believe that is similar to smt v

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I will happily sacrifice a little bit of difficulty for a more rewarding mechanic tbh

fresh mulch
strong moat
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I am a little mixed on it but I think it's more the execution than the concept

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metaphor stacks up to 3 times

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every time you apply a buff after, it keeps it at that level and extends duration

fresh mulch
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smt5 is only 2, and i think it works well

strong moat
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but it's only 3 turns

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now metaphor does have skills that increase by multiple levels

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example: the fuck ass fish in the poop dungeon just completely debuffs your agility with one single skill

fresh mulch
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the optimal idea is for you to buff on the turn its going to wear off to both increase buff level and to extend its time

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tho i think that it wouldnt hurt if stat modifiers were 4 turns

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3 is a bit 'cramped' i feel

strong moat
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yeah in metaphor it would be nice to have them last an extra turn since it's a 3 stack

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there's a skill I've been using a lot that does a good amount of damage and debuffs defense by one rank every time it hits

fresh mulch
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smt5 has passives to increase buff timer and gosh are they a must in every single demon with a buff/debuff

strong moat
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metaphor is also not a hard game though

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I think I'd probably enjoy smt combat a lot but I can't lie, I really like my writing too and I feel like stuff like persona and metaphor has more of the story I'm looking for

fresh mulch
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bruh gated from my own private server

simple knoll
fresh mulch
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are you in any adult-only chat/server?

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its for those

simple knoll
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yeah my friend group has an nsfw chat

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I don't think my state has passed a law requiring it yet

fresh mulch
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i mean, i dont live anywhere close to 'freedom'land, so there isn't actual laws about it (discord enforcing it globally is def a choice)

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man i cant wait for children to be saved by these laws. i mean, they obviously have the new generation of children in mind, its not like any of them still allow child marriage through legal loopholes or straightup parental consent and its not like the same party pushing for these laws are also pushing against minimal marriage age... right?

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(there's a multitude of reasons why almost no one outside of the usa respects it)

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i fucking hate humanity tbh

uncut depot
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disappointed that yusuke isnt in the kunoichi outfit smh

fresh mulch
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imagine not forced sissification every boy

uncut depot
# fresh mulch 'difficulty' in a turnbased rpg with as many options as smt or pokemon always go...

tbf earlier pokémon games still have reasonably hard lategame fights, cynthia is basically memed on for how hard she is
like unless you have a living dex on hand that you can transfer in your teambuilding options are limited by region, some types are more limited than other and some species are strictly better than others, and training a team is a big enough timesink that most people only do it properly for competitive

fresh mulch
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im honestly surprised SM is still a challenge overall with how many options you have (iirc some trainers had perfect EVs?)

uncut depot
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i mean as much as its a joke that every gen 4 player has basically the same team, give credit to her having good ai and an actually decent team of her own

fresh mulch
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if we ignore roserade

uncut depot
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like even in otherwise comically easy bdsp e4/champion still made me sweat a little

fresh mulch
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but didnt bdsp in specific make the trainers more competitive?

uncut depot
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bdsp adds gen 8 bench exp but the majority of the game is not rebalanced around it naosmiley
e4 is actually one of the few things they did rebalance, in fact they went further and gave them straight-up competitive builds

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i literally sequence broke into sunyshore just to experience fighting things at my level again lmfao

fresh mulch
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mellow pecan
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OJMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OGMGO MGO MGOGM OGM OGMG OM

mellow pecan
fresh mulch
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man... the shihoann one...

fresh mulch
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i like looking at pretty girls

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im fucking feral rn

fresh mulch
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||~~my hands are now inspired to draw naostare ~~||

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man its gonna be rough having little yuri in the first two demos pensivekechi

sharp yoke
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Its sexy... what to they expect...

fresh mulch
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what is sexy

sharp yoke
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Wdym, characters in love with each other

sharp yoke
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Ann and all the girls... Nvm

fresh mulch
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okay but who are they

sharp yoke
sharp yoke
fresh mulch
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"my demons are a bit different"

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inbattle voicelines in games can get annoying but you cant deny that they make characters way more memorable(and memeable)

strong moat
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yeah idk SMT V just didnt really grab me

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🤷

sharp yoke
#

It's all cool, esp for Vanilla V...

strong moat
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devil survivor did

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so

fresh mulch
#

the gameplay made up for it (at least og 5)

strong moat
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yeah so I was playing vanilla SMT V...

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my backlog is too long lol but i think smt iv might be a game i'd want to try out at some point

sharp yoke
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Then yeah, I can completely understand ya.... thank the lord Vengeance came

But god, IV still blows my mind. Saddens me that is soo unknown to even SMT's standards

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Never got the chance to get into Devil Survivor tho

fresh mulch
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and the gameplay i cant promise anything

sharp yoke
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Emm...

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Ofc for gameplay cus its an old ass 3ds game... but the narrative and story... WOW

strong moat
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stuff like persona is really story based and i think i like that a lot. from what i could see of nocturne and v, not sure if smt is really what i'm looking for

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devil survivor wasn't exactly like smt writing wise but i liked that one a lot anyways, certainly felt a bit closer with its themes

fresh mulch
strong moat
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being on 3ds is a pro actually

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goated console

fresh mulch
#

+10 nostalgia points

sharp yoke
#

IV is still goated and genuinely one of the best Atlus games ever.

I will fight on that hill until the End of Time

fresh mulch
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compared to 3 and (at least og) 5, it is more interesting story and characterwise

sharp yoke
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Even 5 Vengeance too, that ain't a contest

fresh mulch
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gosh im sleepy gn yall

sharp yoke
#

Gn

fresh mulch
# fresh mulch canon

||btw not joking, as we can see by the shadow ann event (she wants her bountiful bosom) ||

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Speaking of raging hormones, i was thinking of having a recurring visual gag with makoto

sharp yoke
#

recurring? hold up

fresh mulch
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||she would accidentally 'stare' at a girl's... assets before quickly catching herself doing it. Specially in the metaverse with ann||
Dw its okay when lesbians do it

sharp yoke
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emphasis on "accidentally"

fresh mulch
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I just wanna make makoto pingpong from being flustered and trying to act competently

fresh mulch
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Everytime i try to write more i start falling asleep. Gn fr now

lavish helm
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having more options generally means that there will end up being one or two options that slip through the cracks

fresh mulch
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yeah thats why i have you guys to be my free playtesters B)

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Good im gay morning

fresh mulch
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i love boobies

#

super important poll !!

weary rapids
#

Have you seen Yosuke and Yu together I think the answer is clear

fresh mulch
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most bisexual gay couple

cloud dew
#

As someone who is bisexual
I can confirm this statement with 100% accuracy

fresh mulch
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good to have some bisexual input here. very valuable

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talking about it, unsure if my femc yu will have a yosuke romance route. 🤔 ig she could be pan?

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rei(femc jonkle) has not a single straight bone in her body tho (she has scoliosis)

fresh mulch
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what if.... transfem yosuke?

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haha jk... unless? 😳

fresh mulch
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oh gosh i turned on the bi-signal

simple knoll
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all the bisexuals are coming running

fresh mulch
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||they are what now||

simple knoll
#

I fucking knew it

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also did you consider

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enby yosuke

fresh mulch
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hmm... havent considered, no

simple knoll
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he's got the hair

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he's got the vibes

fresh mulch
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i dont have enby goggles pensivekechi

simple knoll
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lmao enby goggles

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fucking autocorrect keeps trying to change enby to envy

fresh mulch
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im very enby of you

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honestly, p2 is and ep both are probably the most bisexual tbh

strong moat
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there could be a discussion on that but to be honest I think p4 still clears them both

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just by quantity lol

simple knoll
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kanji is the most pansexual character I think there is

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Naoto is butch personified

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(but still bisexual bc her and kanji is adorable)

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yosuke is. yosuke

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yu is obvious

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Yukio and chie love each other

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and yeah

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oh I forgot rise

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uhhh

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actually rise is very straight

fresh mulch
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and yukiko is a lesbian and her romance route is 100% comphet (chie is bi tho)

fresh mulch
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i'd say that rise actually overflows the Richter scale of bisexuality

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oh yeah also, teddie
no explanations needed

simple knoll
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teddie is 2 year old

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he's so stupid he didn't even make sex organs on his fake body

fresh mulch
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how does he pee

simple knoll
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he has a fake body he doesn't need to pee

uncut depot
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shadows dont piss confirmed adachi_true

fresh mulch
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why shadows dont piss and shit are they stupid

grand cipher
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i think break's almost over. i should think about what i'm gonna work on when im back (what was i doing again...?)

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oh right i was finishing the bgm spreadsheet. eh migh be better to focus on something else more tangible for now

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gosh im still reeling from this naotoflushednaotoflushednaotoflushednaotoflushed

grand cipher
fresh mulch
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if only i was using those breaks to get out there and kiss girls pensivekechi

grand cipher
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holy shit its already past 10pm.

sharp yoke
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i like booba more

simple knoll
#

ig they put a trans flag on him bit I cannot see him as trans

fresh mulch
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im pretty sure that means that in this headcanon they are is a transbian

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guys how do i do the lesbian mating call again? i forgor pensivekechi

simple knoll
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drive a jeep

fresh mulch
simple knoll
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uhhh

fresh mulch
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gnight to all the gays

fresh mulch
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Nah im good(im not good)

#

Mornin

fresh mulch
# fresh mulch
poll_question_text

most bisexual team

victor_answer_votes

9

total_votes

14

victor_answer_id

2

victor_answer_text

Investigation Team

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to the surprise of no one

fresh mulch
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i feckin love shihoann

ornate ferry
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Is this just the yuri channel now?

fresh mulch
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always has been

sharp yoke
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yespossible

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im a lesbian after all naocool

weary rapids
# fresh mulch

We got Ann, Futaba, Queen, Haru, Sumi, Akechi if we throw him in, Yusuke, and Ryuji and Ren are bi as hell

grand cipher
fresh mulch
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futaba def makes at least 50% of all the gay

fresh mulch
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yknow, for as much complaining and discourse that exists within the persona fandom, it's absolute heaven compared to the minecraft fandom dark

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i've seen dbd players more respectful to their devs

strong moat
#

it is very funny to be an ATLUS fan because I think the thing people will agree on the most is not having much faith in ATLUS. you see it the most with Persona but it's frequently present elsewhere too

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it's fascinating because ATLUS does put out fantastic games but at the same time it is sometimes hard to have faith in them to go above and beyond since they do fail at that

fresh mulch
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if anything i'd say that that means that the fans do actually have a lot of faith, since we trust atlus enough to deliver. its just that we also know to be ready for baffling decisions at any time

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at least they got over their weirdass console exclusive model

strong moat
#

yeah I just see a lot of "knowing ATLUS they won't do x or will do y" etc etc

#

even when there's no actual precedent lol

strong moat
#

honestly who knows why it took them that long to ditch the model

uncut depot
#

wasnt like console culture still a thing in japan longer than for anglophones or am i misremembering some bullshit i read years ago

fresh mulch
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im just super confused why they stuck with nintendo for the smt side of the franchise for so long

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dont their target audience overlap more with playstation?

fresh mulch
#

im wakey day

fresh mulch
# fresh mulch
poll_question_text

most HOMOSEXUAL team

victor_answer_votes

8

total_votes

12

victor_answer_id

3

victor_answer_text

Phantom Thieves

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#

if investigation team is the most bisexual, and phantom thieves is the most homosexual... what is s.e.e.s.?

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most... heterosexual?
looks at mitsuru, aigis, kotone, yukari, fuuka, akihiko, shinji
...nah

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second most bisexual and homosexual then

weary rapids
#

Makoto might be gay too 🤔

fresh mulch
#

makoto "serial womanizer" yuki?

ornate ferry
#

Makoto doesn't actually love anyone, he just goes with the flow

fresh mulch
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he's trying to fill the emptiness in his heart, but its never enough pensivekechi

ornate ferry
#

You say you love me for some reason? K, sure I guess

fresh mulch
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unironically this in the originals (not sure how it is in reload)

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the girl is just like 'i wanna date you now' and it just... happens

mellow pecan
fresh mulch
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(if gay then maybe he has a bad case of comphet?)

weary rapids
#

He had Ryoji

fresh mulch
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oh they fawkin

simple knoll
#

ryoji was inside makoto

fresh mulch
#

true...

mellow pecan
#

Ryoji is actually Makoto and Aegis's son if you think about it.

ornate ferry
grand cipher
mellow pecan
#

It was quite hellish for Makoto to go through that 9-year long soul pregnancy.

simple knoll
#

well... aigis put death inside makoto it wasn't really...

fresh mulch
#

i forgor the specifics of this part so this whole conversation sounds insane

grand cipher
fresh mulch
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since we are on this topic...
if only it was that easy pensivekechi

uncut depot
fresh mulch
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yeah i just dont know how makoto responds there

fresh mulch
#

woke orpheus 😳

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talking about it, i think i'll have the 'personas of another story' have full learnsets

jovial turret
#

orpheus learning great seal at one of his final levels would be so fire

fresh mulch
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gosh its late, good night

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btw would anyone be interested in reading fics i write?(technically this is already one)

fresh mulch
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Mornin

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sterile micaBOT
uncut depot
#

ripping and tearing demons with your gf sounds like the perfect date night actually

fresh mulch
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top 5 things better than sex

grand cipher
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what place is that in?

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#3?

fresh mulch
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I slept all day tf

grand cipher
fresh mulch
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i woke up at the time i go to sleep 🥀

fresh mulch
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why i still commit the act of self harm that is seeing the comment section of a yuri ship on an average otaku subreddit

weary rapids
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You using Reddit at all is self harm

fresh mulch
fresh mulch
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truly Gamer moment

sharp yoke
simple knoll
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heh

fresh mulch
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gay sex

fresh mulch
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scot the wowzers

fresh mulch
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i feel so guilty for taking such a long break

mellow pecan
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No worries.

sharp yoke
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Nah its fine. The fact that you are getting so intricate with gameplay mechanics and even with custom Personas too.

Its deserved

mellow pecan
fresh mulch
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FUCK YES

sharp yoke
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Hell yeah

junior smelt
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I won't lie, I thought of this thread while making that. AnnShiho is underrated

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Which is odd because it seems obvious as a ship. I couldnt believe no one made something like this already

mellow pecan
junior smelt
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Thats a fair point

fresh mulch
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Im getting motivation to continue now

junior smelt
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You absolutely should! What youve made so far is very impressive

fresh mulch
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just making some farms for a minecraft smp. when im done i'll come back

uncut depot
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pretend instead of ren this says rei ig

mellow pecan
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Can I pretend it's Ryuji?

grand cipher
mellow pecan
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Ren.

grand cipher
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Hm, idk.

Felt like Ryuji crushing on ann was 50/50

left hinge
grand cipher
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he even said Ren straight up said it

uncut depot
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yes i made this when i still used reddit

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(...also tbh ive come to prefer ryuann as friends with benefits rather than capital-s Ship lol)

fresh mulch
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This is getting too het

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Like i respect bi ships but in the context of this chat is just.... Why?

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Feels like sticking a man into a yuri ship doing it here

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I try to be accepting of stuff that i personally dont like, but bringing it to the very lesbian focused chat ovef and over again is my hard line at this point

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I just want to ship girls without hearing "a man would be nice here 🤪 "

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No im not well

fresh mulch
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Im so tired

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This is exhausting

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Time and time again i have to see lesbians being sexualized for men. I want to fucking die

mellow pecan
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My apologies.

fresh mulch
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Also i had stressed out twice with other people

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This is a nothingburger

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Ive been moody as hell lately

mellow pecan
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No worries.

pliant wagon
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How do I setup the P5R reimagined mod?

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I have all the mods so far and read the “read me” text file

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And it crashes anything I’m missing?

uncut depot
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why are you asking this here, in the project thread for a mod that will have zero compatibility with reimagined, and not fucking #1045463162452987924 or in zarkadia server

fresh mulch
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lmao this is wild

pliant wagon
weary rapids
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Man playing a dangerous game

mellow pecan
fresh mulch
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i wish i could control my hyperfixations it has been so long 😭

mellow pecan
sullen drift
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Re: Ann being a lesbian etc

So to me Ann reads as lesbian because she is the first woman who really stuck with me as Rena Lanford.

Nana Mizuki voiced her in the psp remake of Star Ocean 2 which is the first time I played it with proper voices in 2023 or sosince it helped me come out in 2004-5.

Her voice is really burned into my brain even if I came out with Aya Hisakawa(1998 seiyuu) Re experiencing my coming out around 2023 with her got me emotional.

What’s interesting is Rena is yet another Nana Mizuki character who is as written bisexual. And all I will say is in my playthrough Rena fell in love with a woman and she is loyal. (She’s a innocent young type. From her perspective it’s “I love her. I won’t ever love anyone else of any gender”)

So that is my take on Ann.

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But also there’s something about Ann and Shiho. if the writer of Rose and Violet and hadn’t had some Ann and Kasumi extras I wouldn’t have been able to date Ann as Kasumi because Ann and Shiho are so…

queer

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In my Betafemc playthrough I am sure they’re talking about buying a loft together in Akihabara. And adopting a kitty

uncut depot
fresh mulch
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lets go lesbians

grand cipher
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clap clap clapclapclap

strong moat
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I just think of yuri lowenthal saying that instead

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my goat.... he's probably not coming back for P4R and that makes me very sad

fresh mulch
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What happened

sudden mist
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he said he wouldn't be a va for the p4 remake

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before revival was announced lol

mellow pecan
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Doubt he did anything to warrant it, just following Reload in changing the dub cast.

weary rapids
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Guess he’s full time a friendly neighborhood Spider-Man

strong moat
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yeah all i will say on this really is that i am very disappointed at the fact that p4r's english VAs will likely be changed. imagine if p5r changed its entire english cast - not exactly the same deal but it feels similar to me

uncut depot
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who would do funni "lets go lesbians" akechi clips then skob

fresh mulch
simple knoll
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if the voice actors are like p3r's I'll give it a try but I might end up playing in the Japanese dub

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I watched the anime in the sub so I'm fine with them

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I hope aleks lee does yosuke cuz I think it's funny to think of him as the yuri lowenthal replacement

strong moat
jovial turret
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Suggestion for combat, the option to give up

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If you try to run from a fight that you can’t normally run from, it’ll prompt you to give up and if you say yes you’ll insta game over

fresh mulch
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Thats a lot of exe editing

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Not really worth it

weary rapids
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And we know the real priorities

jovial turret
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Fair enough

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I heard someone say it was possible at some point but wasn’t sure how hard it’d be to add

fresh mulch
weary rapids
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Last thing said was playing Minecraft is priorities

grand cipher
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Wow yeah the chat was dead for a while

weary rapids
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For the first time

fresh mulch
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Yeah because im not posting in it

left hinge
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It be like that sometimes

mellow pecan
lavish helm
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lesbians

grand cipher
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Spell squidward backwards

simple knoll
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drawdiuqs?

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what is the joke here

mellow pecan
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I will not draw a richard.

jovial turret
fresh mulch
left hinge
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Agree

sharp yoke
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Nah def is Mitsuru

junior smelt
uncut depot
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switches dont exist pensivekechi

junior smelt
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people always choose the middle ground option in polls when offered. all must choose a side

junior smelt
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I mean we already have canon evidence she's a top MakotoThink

uncut depot
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switches can also top adachi_true

jovial turret
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mitsuru seems like a top until she actually gets in the bedroom

left hinge
ornate ferry
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awwwww I missed the yuri chat again :(

fresh mulch
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mitsuru is def a switch tho. dominant with some, submissive with others

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like makoto p5

junior smelt
# junior smelt
poll_question_text

Who tops?

victor_answer_votes

12

total_votes

12

victor_answer_id

2

victor_answer_text

Yukari

mellow pecan
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hmm ❤️ MakotoThink

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Chat is this anything?

fresh mulch
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They're both pretty, so i wanna see them kiss. So yes

fresh mulch
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Well, ig i'll be back soon

fresh mulch
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working on the animations for the hecate boss

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im starting to get the motivation again

grand cipher
fresh mulch
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the animations werent

grand cipher
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o

fresh mulch
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if you watch the video they are super jank

fresh mulch
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gosh it has been so long. doesnt help that so much has been happening lately

grand cipher
zenith fractal
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What happened?

fresh mulch
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yall dont have to worry about it. things are going well

terse shadowBOT
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sorry, ive derailed by a lot. and i mean a lot. hopefully this time i can soon get raile—
...get back on rails, i mean.
im starting to wane off of my current hyperfixation and taking an interest in pepperone fiverr again, so there's that
also im now trying different dosages for my meds to see if that helps with my increased irritability lately. sry 'bout all that, again
i cant guarantee anything tho, so i dont wanna make empty promises again
and uh... idk transwrongs_futaba trans futaber ig

fresh mulch
weary rapids
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The girlkisser has returned

fresh mulch
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everyone in another server just calls me butch. ig im butch now ig

weary rapids
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Cuz it’s the first part of your name

fresh mulch
grand cipher
fresh mulch
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shuake yuri

mellow pecan
fresh mulch
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yukiko's romance route will always be a massive comphet in my heart. 30 layers deep closet

mellow pecan
fresh mulch
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who's a girly girl here?

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does E count as multi-yuri vitamins

junior smelt
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my attempts to be a girly girl failed when I realized I like dressing in suits too much

fresh mulch
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mood(half of the time)

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ngl ive been kinda really into designing and self-hosting(im poor)a mc server lately. i'll try to work on the mod from time to time tho

fresh mulch
# fresh mulch
poll_question_text

who tops

victor_answer_votes

6

total_votes

14

victor_answer_id

1

victor_answer_text

Haru

victor_answer_emoji_id

761475450190561280

victor_answer_emoji_name

haruangry

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Congrats to haru. Is there anyone she doesnt top?

junior smelt
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Haru vs Yukari, battle of mean tops

left hinge
zenith fractal
mellow pecan
zenith fractal
sharp yoke
fresh mulch
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i need a lesbian vampire in my life

uncut depot
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round hat

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i have been plugged B)

fresh mulch
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actually i'd have a lot of nickels

simple knoll
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ocean is everywhere

uncut depot
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lemao

fresh mulch
grand cipher
fresh mulch
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chat is it bad if your crush doesnt respond your dms for like, 3 entire days
i mean, good night. mustering up the will to do any progress beyond some brainstorming

grand cipher
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are you....alright?

fresh mulch
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ive been worse tbh. just cant focus on what i want atm

left hinge
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Been there mate. Hope it's sorted out soon .

sharp yoke
zenith fractal
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Kinda wish that veriso

fresh mulch
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i am NOT obsessed with her (im obsessed with her)

fresh mulch
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im still struggling with knowing when enough is enough. im afraid i keep increasing the already crept scope

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i may have a problem with moderation in general tbh

fresh mulch
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happy lesbian visibility day (TIL this is a thing)

mellow pecan
fresh mulch
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Yukari's bitches

fresh mulch
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sesbian lex day but i still dont have a gf

simple knoll
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happy lesbian day i broke up with my boyfriend because i realized i only like women

simple knoll
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i asked him to still be friends but he hasn't texted me in over a week

left hinge
simple knoll
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:,)

grand cipher
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least you got a partner. still single over here.

simple knoll
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oh well i'm single now

grand cipher
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okay you HAD a partner.
I never did

left hinge
simple knoll
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what's worse than never having a partner

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being aromantic?

left hinge
simple knoll
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oh jeez i'm so sorry

left hinge
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All good

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It's happen but still that's love for ya
Unexpected

simple knoll
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truth nuke

left hinge
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But always appreciate ur partner that all we need remember

And if u don't got one ur friend will do

fresh mulch