[P5R PC] Take Your Time | [FEMC & Yuri] Story and Gameplay Overhaul

[wide carbon]

😠

confused the game release date oops

[fresh mulch]

trust me guys kotone ||is alive||

[uncut depot]

i mean why would she not be door, lorewise

[simple knoll]

I think I watched a video on how kotone's timeline is doomed because the answer doesn't happen

[uncut depot]

fanon

[wide carbon]

[simple knoll]

tbf kotone isn't in the canon timeline either so.

[fresh mulch]

cowards didnt put the answer because they'd have to make yukari go full gay for kotone

[wide carbon]

Real reason is because the answer is mid and you're better off not subjecting yourself to it 😤

[simple knoll]

more like they didn't want to bother porting that to a psp game

[fresh mulch]

the answer is not even that much

[wide carbon]

I think UMDs could only fit like 1.2GB of space? Thats the real reason lol

[simple knoll]

remember how the fandom had to pressure atlus into making episode aigis? remember why we wanted a remake so that we could combine fes and portable? and they remade vanilla?

[fresh mulch]

they already have tartarus assets to reuse tho

[uncut depot]

if kotone was in reload then wed have kotone ep aigis
however, this would be a monkey paw because reload ep aigis is bad

[rustic shadow]

You're better off watching the cut scenes on yt

[wide carbon]

this was the most funny thing. They finally made the remake we'd all been asking for and STILL couldn't make it definitive

[uncut depot]

"pressure" nah i knew from moment 1 that ep aigis was always gonna happen the way it did

[simple knoll]

I had a feeling when they ported portable that the remake would not have kotone lol

[strong moat]

episode aigis reload is dogshit anyways

it does everything wrong

[wide carbon]

whats so bad about it compared to the original?

[fresh mulch]

what if i make a mod that makes it good? (add yuri)

[wide carbon]

Yuri can't solve everything I'm afraid

[simple knoll]

make mitsuru and Yukari kiss

[uncut depot]

from -1/10 to 2/10

[fresh mulch]

fake news

[rustic shadow]

I love it because I love aigis

[simple knoll]

also mind you event editing is much easier in p3r since the event editor is. unreal engine

[strong moat]

I already talked about it removing yuriful moments lol

[fresh mulch]

got it mod im on it

[strong moat]

gameplay is not really much better, bad writing

[simple knoll]

it's been brawler's birthday for a week now

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why does brawler get bday role for a week and i dont get it at all smh

[wide carbon]

Doesnt the same go for P3F

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no

[strong moat]

no

[fresh mulch]

no (idk)

[uncut depot]

well
i dont like fes answer gameplay either but for the opposite reason

[simple knoll]

the answer in p3f is dog shit

[strong moat]

P3F answer gameplay is better than P3R by far

even if you don't agree the writing changes just completely ruin it

[fresh mulch]

guys what if i added the sick status from p3 and you could get cramps

[strong moat]

and it feels low budget as hell

[simple knoll]

I haven't played p3r answer yet so I can't comment

[strong moat]

$35 btw

[simple knoll]

trans makoto?

[uncut depot]

and not even included in digital premium

[strong moat]

lol lmao

[wide carbon]

In what way? I don't understand lol. How different could it be?

[fresh mulch]

i was talking of rei

[simple knoll]

oh

[strong moat]

the same stuff as base game

oh but they added a bunch of random ah hangouts I guess

[simple knoll]

transmasc makoto will always be one of my favorite headcanons

[strong moat]

that feel extremely out of place and add nothing of worth at best

[uncut depot]

i am going to beat this point to death because i am never again wasting my money the way i did with p3r digital premium

[fresh mulch]

jokes aside... its interesting how cramps seemingly dont get in the way of fighting shadows

[simple knoll]

imagine adding a mechanic where you have to do your homework and if you don't do it you... uh idk

[strong moat]

p3r episode aigis feels so low budget too like

p3r already feels questionable sometimes

[fresh mulch]

you die irl

[simple knoll]

exercise actually helps relieve cramps

[fresh mulch]

good point (i dont excercise)

[simple knoll]

(same)

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(me neither (usually))

[fresh mulch]

how bad are they

[uncut depot]

i get the idea of wanting something to break up the dungeon crawling but also. lol. lmao

[fresh mulch]

i do think of having days certain pts arent available like in p3

ive talked here before i think

of course, you couldn't go to a palace if everyone is not available

(you couldnt go to a palace if someone is unavailable i mean)

[edgy field]

No but see people will be mad they can't complete the palace in one day

[fresh mulch]

people will be mad you cant quick travel

[edgy field]

so true honestly

[strong moat]

they're just very out of place and also sometimes out of character

[fresh mulch]

cant wait to play p3r to join the discourse

ngl, one thing that is preventing me from even thinking of modding p4 is because of the discourse. i like having creative liberty and not have to worry about how what i do will be taken through the discourse lens (persona fans still have to understand what a fanfic is by the looks of it)

p5 doesnt have much of that thankfully

[fresh mulch]

3 days it is

[fresh mulch]

i should sleep early today rip

[quiet prism]

In the negatives I'm afraid

[fresh mulch]

good night homos

[terse shadow]

butch girlkisser

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[fresh mulch]

reposting this because its peak

[fresh mulch]

holy shit

we need more yuri animators 🙏

super important poll

none isnt an option

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futaba is a chronically online gremlin shes probably already freaky :V

[fresh mulch]

true...

she def has a weirdly obscure fetish

fuck it im gonna binge may/bridget fics

[uncut depot]

shes just like me fr

[fresh mulch]

Same

[strong moat]

I think the discourse exists for all the persona games to some extent though. the real issue with P4 is how annoying event editing is for that game, there's a reason there are few event mods

[fresh mulch]

I'd say p4's is specially bad. But ig there's that (i was applying this to p4r too in advance)

Morning

[shy flint]

I keep see people say Mornin and it makes me go, yeah its just past midnight, then I remember time zones and feel dumb.

[fresh mulch]

Guys i dont recommend forgetting to take your anxiety meds before going out for extended periods of time

Maybe don't do that

[simple knoll]

I've done it before

I do it on purpose when I go to theme parks

makes the roller coasters more fun

[fresh mulch]

Holy shit moonlight is so good for streaming your pc to your phone from miles away

Why is steam link so ASS

[strong moat]

no I get it, like it's not great but frankly I don't think you'd attract a lot of negative attention especially if framed similarly to this mod (some changes are not made to "fix" perceived flaws but rather to just make changes where interesting)

actually now that I think about it, it's really only P5 where you can easily get away with narrative changes like this bc the writing has many flaws as it is. P3/4 for what they are tend to have more straightforward writing with flaws that aren't the same level of obviously apparent. with P4 I think as long as you framed it as a reimagining of P4's writing and not as a "fix" or "improvement", you'd be safe enough

I think these sort of mods just don't really attract a lot of attention unless you make some sort of statement like that

[fresh mulch]

(Anyway i still have to finish this one)

[strong moat]

yes lol

and again I think I brought this up but the tools you have for P5R event editing are substantially more advanced than what's available for P4G lol

[fresh mulch]

Holy shit i hate p3p fusion

The fact that 50% of the personas can only inherit phys absolutely sucks

[weary rapids]

P3 fusion is evil Girl

[fresh mulch]

I wouldnt even mind the random inheritance, the problem is getting an arsenal in one persona just to not be able to fuse it forward because for some reason every result is 'unga bunga phys guy'

[fresh mulch]

Oh yeah i did some changes to inheritance

I wonder if i posted it before...

Nope i didnt

When i get home i'll see if i can find the table. But in a nutshell: its different

Btw today i butched butchly all over the place

Thats enough grass for a year

Yknow whats funny?

If you just switch Yu's pronouns around without any more changes, rise suddenly becomes a raging homosexual

So much for laying low smh

[fresh mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/yukaigis-yukari-aigis-aiyuka-ykgis-aigis-gif-14535742624253700860

[fresh mulch]

after suddenly sleeping for 3 whole hours in the afternoon, I think I wanna at least work a bit on an event

shouldnt be too much trouble

lettuce c...

SAME EVT BABYYYY

i'll need to change animations for ann and ryuji, as well as changing mona's position based on the weather...

but overall like 75% of it is already done

oh wait mona is already conveniently on top of a desk. perfect

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phrasing

[fresh mulch]

oh oops i made them merge kiss on accident

[grand cipher]

not on accident. fixed that for u

[fresh mulch]

the biggest problem with haruann imo is that they are both clearly doms

how do they settle who's on top

[rare oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/yuri-nation-gif-3423134153492220052

[fresh mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-yuri-gif-17427509376770519401

[lunar vector]

I don't actually think that's clearly true for Ann. She's got a bad case of "can't differentiate between who she wants to Be vs. who she Wants."

[fresh mulch]

i'd say that deep down she's a big dom. but she can easily match her partner's wants

[lunar vector]

Her metaverse look is, ignoring the male writers of it all, an expression of admiration of a certain type of woman. And that admiration could be aspirational...... or it could mean something else. Which it really often does.

See: her reaction to Mika being mean to her.

I don't see that as solely aspirational, lmfao.

[fresh mulch]

she bottoms there

[lunar vector]

"Ignoring the male writers of it all" is pulling some weight here, so it's kind of up to us to make sense of it where I don't think all the writers involved intended it, but like. Yeah. I'm sorry but her reaction to mean women is Not that of someone who is domming all the time 😂

[fresh mulch]

"lets assume a spherical, frictionless cow"

i'd say that if her partners are dommy then she folds, but otherwise she naturally doms if there's no pushback

so, she only bottoms to haru, cause everyone else is a BOTTOM

i rest my case

aaa why is she so slay

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part of me thinks ann liking submissive stuff would be funny on account of the irony, but another part has been persuaded by the shadow ann fight to think her having a kink for giving cnc would be delicious angst

[fresh mulch]

what have i done

[fresh mulch]

~~shiho so lucky to have ann as her gf ~~

||~~but so is ann ~~||

[fresh mulch]

||but fr, shiho IS ridiculously gorgeous||

[fresh mulch]

i think i am almost done

[fresh mulch]

surprised there were that many votes for top sumi

right, to record my finished work

[fresh mulch]

i'm having to adjust every instance ryuji and haru look at ann

[fresh mulch]

okay it turned out very poggers

[fresh mulch]

wait i'll probably reupload with proper resolution (this is annoying)

i wonder how necessary it was to create a whole new version just in the case its raining. however, I did it. this is the exact same event down to the id

"gee i sure hope i don't overhear a criminal conspiracy happening right next to me"

[grand cipher]

ever wonder why morganas on the AC unit or whatever that is to the right of joker?
Is he keeping an eye on everyone

[fresh mulch]

cats like sitting on warm stuff, and ac units get kinda hot

[grand cipher]

is that the real reason? huh

[fresh mulch]

no i made it up

[grand cipher]

then what IS

[fresh mulch]

there isnt one lol

[grand cipher]

mannn

[fresh mulch]

wait why are they different saturations what

no way rainy days increase saturation?

[fresh mulch]

(watch it if you havent )

gnight homos

[fresh mulch]

(Oh yeah and as always, tell me what you sincerely think)

[simple knoll]

what is the yuri thread's favorite yaoi ship I wonder

everyone must say shuake or else

[fresh mulch]

I have none

Mornin

[quiet prism]

Nope neither do i, morning all

And it's not really sexism, is it that unlike the girls the boys don't have that kind of interaction.

[fresh mulch]

(Not sure how this could be sexism)

But yeah, more often than not girls are written to have more intimate interactions than boys, so yuri fuel is bigger for me

[uncut depot]

akeshu my beloved

[quiet prism]

Yikes.

[fresh mulch]

(Plus if we dont count morgana, we only have ryuji and yusuke as boys )

[fresh mulch]

what this is for

[quiet prism]

=akeshu=

[fresh mulch]

You're on a losing battle here

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[quiet prism]

And call me Custer

[uncut depot]

vanillas when an internet nerd likes toxic yaoi

[fresh mulch]

Toxic doomed yaoi*

I'd be all over this shit if it was yuri ngl

[quiet prism]

Medic I need a burn unit

[fresh mulch]

Mika and Ann are the closest we got on the toxic yuri department

they should kiss

[uncut depot]

ive roleplayed worse. who said that

[fresh mulch]

||actually there is a huge toxic doomed yuri contender but I'll bring it to my grave. Yall aint ready||

[uncut depot]

...in p5 or just in some media or another

[fresh mulch]

i aint answering

[uncut depot]

...i have a thought but if im wrong ill be the freak 😭

[fresh mulch]

~~there's no winning move but to not play ~~

[fresh mulch]

||(dms, i aint a snitch)||

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moving on...

[uncut depot]

aww box kiby

[fresh mulch]

btw everyone says that p5 made ailments good, but p3 was already right here

its p4 that made them suck

i remember stunlocking bosses with that ailment that prevents them from using skills as well. and there's also the op 'hit the weakness again instead of aoa to get them stunned for 1 turn' too

also is it just me or yukari's bow has a ridiculous crit rate?

shit's broken

(also the fact that missing doesnt put her into knockdown. seriously yukari's basic attack is insane)

[fresh mulch]

yknow, paradoxically, what theoretically makes ailments good in p5, technical powering up baton pass, is what makes them actually not that good relatively speaking?

baton pass basically allows you to nuke the enemies before they act, and its piss easy to get the advantage as well

combo with their paper thin hp and you have it circle back to 'why waste time inflicting ailment that will only payoff later?'

you can just baton pass from other methods

its safer to throw a potential crit > baton pass than wasting action economy throwing a non-damaging ailment that maybe will allow technical later if it hits

ailments are mostly worth considering if it comes from a damaging skill, because if it doesnt work, you're already close to finishing the battle through damage alone anyway

[fresh mulch]

YAOI????????

(this upscaling is awful lol)

[fresh mulch]

right, fixing this should be easy

:p

[edgy field]

kap has a fixed emulated version that I made for it a while back

[fresh mulch]

i'll make my own. i'll be adding more stuff to bathroom anyway

[edgy field]

I mostly say that because I also changed the camera angle for them which was hell to do.

[fresh mulch]

... sauce?

[edgy field]

sure one sec

should be it

wait no

[fresh mulch]

these are the messages :p

[edgy field]

i know

were they deleted by westaria?

nvm

[fresh mulch]

indeed i just need to ajudst the coords

[edgy field]

this should be the camera

[fresh mulch]

atlus why do you have the same thing in multiple files

[fresh mulch]

thank god they have a single script at least

[edgy field]

Yeah, thanks for reminding me though I need to put in this version in redux since it was updated iirc

this is for both bathrooms btw

since theres 1 in each wing of the school

[fresh mulch]

i wouldve probably opened evtui to get the coords (but this saves some time) thanks

who to credit?

[edgy field]

Either me or west(or both), I don't really care about credit that much

[fresh mulch]

i should be able to continue from here

[fresh mulch]

uh maybe i should change this part lmao

[edgy field]

lol

[fresh mulch]

uh oops i must have forgotten a file there

but this entire side of the school is working at least

🤔 but they're all here....

[edgy field]

looks to be working for me, whats the issue

[fresh mulch]

im actually using a file that they all get the instructions from. maybe one of them have a function with a slightly different name from the rest?

[edgy field]

could be

[fresh mulch]

bruh

for some reason, 002_003_02 in specific instead of having 'CHK_TOILET_WOMEN' or 'CHK_TOILET_MEN' like every other fhit with a bathroom, it instead has 'CHK_TOILET_WOMAN' and 'CHK_TOILET_MAN'

[edgy field]

lol

[fresh mulch]

okay its working, there is just one small adjustment

i need to change the position of where joker ends up after exiting the bathroom so its in front of the ladies'

tf you mean changing this does nothing

https://tenor.com/view/persona-3-fuuka-fuuka-yamagishi-confused-confused-fuuka-gif-13734392138280514003

....

oh

[edgy field]

happens to the best of us

[fresh mulch]

it's... still not doing anything

understandable have a nice day

[fresh mulch]

oh im stupid this is when joker is inside the bathroom

nice

now i just need to edit the maps to highlight the correct entrance

yay

okay now this is fully implemented... at the basic level i mean

i wanna make my own changes to the bathroom system

first of all...
sure, rei is afab, but she looks like and dresses like a guy

yknow how that can go

i was thinking of there being days where going to the bathroom once will increase your guts a bit

but its not just that. i was also thinking if i can make it so that going to the bathroom gives you better information of the stuff you can do this day

since i will be disabling quick travel after all

like "today there's a special drink in blablabla..." or "the gym opened recently, i should pay a visit..." and stuff

while in theory removing quick travel will incentivize the player to look at their surroundings and check them more often while they are on their way to their objective (like remembering that gifts shop exist when going to ann and remembering to buy them, for example), there is a point where this can backfire and make so that the player try to ignore as much of their environment as possible just to get stuff over with, because they cant guarantee that their time spent going offpath will result in anything

enter the bathroom: (literally)

it will just remove uncertainty that might make players hesitate to try things out

of course, most people forget that toilets are a thing, so i was going to have a mandatory event that plays that basically forces the player to interact with its system, to at least let them know its there

plus, its good for returning players anyway

https://tenor.com/view/columbina-sandrone-sandbina-columbina-genshin-sandrone-genshin-gif-1878979157886823787

[uncut depot]

im psure ive said this but id wager the way their official tooling does imports is by just. inserting the whole contents of the imported file into the bf/bmd

[fresh mulch]

i mean yeah i know but i wanna complain (but also, the CHK_TOILET_MAN... this one might have been manual)

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yeah...😭

[fresh mulch]

stuff like the thousands of the exact same 'fadeout' functions scattered everywhere has to be because of this tho

the final amount of hits was 675 in only script/field btw

[uncut depot]

the movie theater flow checks which movie theater youre interacting with which only makes sense if you assume one file that was auto-shoved in all 3 fhits

[fresh mulch]

i know that for the books there is like two different patterns, so they did do the script twice

i wish there was a simple way to comment in folders

ah yes i remember what is going on here

[fresh mulch]

some of this is in the game already, but i wanna add more

there's quite a lot already. i wonder how many players saw even 10% of them

subhuman??? D:

[uncut depot]

i kinda stopped using the toilets after the first use or so, not counting the leblanc one that lets you check social stat progress, so i did not know this dialogue is a thing lol i found all those by intrinsically wanting to explore

[fresh mulch]

since i'll give some guts points here then maybe it'll be enough incentive

its honestly a bit too hidden for the type of player that needs this advice lol

[uncut depot]

oh, morgana also tells you things you can do sometimes so i think id slightly skew more toward things he doesnt mention

[fresh mulch]

he always talks about available confidants right?

that you didnt do

unlock

[uncut depot]

idr everything he can bring up but off the top of my head ive seen him remind me of the shopping program

and suggest the temple

[fresh mulch]

about half that is implemented here i'd say that morgana tells you anyway

[uncut depot]

yeah probably lol

[fresh mulch]

i always need something to remind me of them 🫠

specially in p5 that the tv is not on your room

my distracted ass forgers them

[uncut depot]

i thiiiiink i dimly remember him telling me when vegetables are ready once?

[fresh mulch]

i should probably make sure he always tells you then, since haru's vegetables will be available since the beginning

[uncut depot]

i feel like he prob consistently brings it up but my memory is too fuzzy to be sure

though yeah i could see having early veggies breaking it

[fresh mulch]

i love trying to find messages by their sequence order

[uncut depot]

i always check the tv anyway for the sake of it so i tended to remember

[fresh mulch]

im so lost on what is happening on this loop

wouldnt this logic basically mean that there is a chance that no message id is chosen? and it goes by 0?

but like, this is the 0 message...

im so confused

actually... WHEN do these reminders appear?

im only getting the 'i am not close to increasing x social stat' even after burrowing a book, which seems to have a reminder

[uncut depot]

is this like about the leblanc bathroom?

[fresh mulch]

school

leblanc also not doin it

[uncut depot]

i dont think there are reminders at school im psure its just leblanc bathroom (if you take a shit instead of deciding to spend your time cleaning)

[fresh mulch]

should you also get more guts from ripping a big one?

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snrk

[fresh mulch]

btw all the coffees

surprised there wasn't an achievement from getting them all

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wait ur rite they totally shoulda made that an achievement

[fresh mulch]

colombia: 3
brazil: 2
doesnt look like the rest repeat

[uncut depot]

if the maid cafe is fair game then this should be too >:v

[fresh mulch]

at least this one is not a waste of time

i legit only did the maid achievement when i had literally nothing to do in the third sem

[uncut depot]

i think i finished the game without doing it and then went back for it because it wasnt all that hard

[fresh mulch]

why is coffee so consistently a backbone to any economy that can make them

(says the one that drinks about 5 cups a day)

[uncut depot]

(me when im not actually big on coffee)

[fresh mulch]

dont tell me you drink... tea?

[uncut depot]

rarely

[fresh mulch]

imagine not having caffeine addiction

okay wtf according to the code there's no way for you to get reminders??? if only i had a save with them to properly test wth is going on

huh, if i force SUB_MAIN_SYS to be used instead of the social stat one, it seems to work

but idk what would be calling this in the game

[simple knoll]

Morgana has to go to the bathroom with joker lmao

[fresh mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/morgana-dance-morgana-persona5-gif-17386159714532019104

morgana watching you shit

https://tenor.com/view/black-cat-good-financial-decisions-ksuose-gif-24602542

holy shit mona irl

my brain is turning into jello trying to understand wtf is going on in the toilet scripts

[lunar vector]

The true holder of the Mona IRL title to me will always be Uni.

[fresh mulch]

what a distinguished gentleman

[simple knoll]

I love uni

https://tenor.com/view/uni-cat-uni-fact-40-cat-uni-kitty-maxwell-gif-16518872652230738774

[fresh mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/uni-handshake-maxwell-cat-kitty-gif-522509285255605907

[uncut depot]

there was a funny fanart i saw once of this but idk where to find it

[fresh mulch]

huh so there IS a chance of just... no reminder appearing

the loop is only ever ran twice, so if there is only one possible text its like... 2/43? even tho it doesnt feel like those are the odds at all tho

i am so confused

okay... seems to be working

i made the loop run until it hits a possible text (means i def need to make a failsafe one)

[fresh mulch]

okay finally

i got the basic logic down

i'll be iterating on this as i design the days going forward

i'll have more specific examples appear as you unlock them

this should provide a solid 'hub' for the player to plan out their day

i'll def be using custom save data framework here

[rustic shadow]

Do he have a persona?

[grand cipher]

photoshop his eyes to be blue, give him a yello collar and you've got a morgana.

[fresh mulch]

the what

https://tenor.com/view/plink-cat-plink-cat-gif-1794292671885121408

(vampire survivors is weird...)

[fresh mulch]

trying to remember what else i was going to change in the overworld

its almost as if noting stuff down is better than keeping it in your head

[fresh mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/sumitaba-persona-5-gif-17725617797048215706

feck it im gonna sleep

tomorrow i should go back to working on the mod for reals maybe

||~~im also commited to my harutaba fic 😈 ~~||

gnight gays

[sullen drift]

maybe when it procs the guts you can also have a flag trigger npc gossip.

Either Rei overhears something helpful or someone is just being a bitch about a butch.

(i wrote that because i kept on making “butch” as a typo for bitch.

haha. But with all the coding yer messing with anyway some humorous flavour text would be fun. Doesn’t evn need to be about Rei.

“So, Tara I Invited you here because I love Taranormal and I think there is wild stuff going on at Shujin”

“Is it connected to the hot delinquent?”

The other side of the Shujin gossip is of course where several Girls call her the hot delinquent.

Ahem.

[simple knoll]

https://fxtwitter.com/bibi_booom/status/2009807847723610518 thought yuri thread would enjoy the gorls

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FxTwitter · Jan 10, 2026, 2:01 AM

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INDEED I ENJOYED THE GORLS

They are so slaaaaaaay aaaa

Mornin

i am so gay

[rustic shadow]

Me to!

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https://tenor.com/view/madoka-magica-madoka-madohomu-homumado-sam-gif-25251419

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madohomu my beloved

[simple knoll]

madohomu is shuake coded

(also imagining akechi in madoka's dress is hilarious)

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well i guess i'll start by fguring out how to move these mfers out of the way

its impressive how on the first free day you have this

i guess with quick travel you can easily miss this

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yeah finding this is gonna be a pain

it should be easier to find them in npcexist and thanos snap instead

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yknow, while anyone playing this mod will have at least already known about akechi, theoretically, my 'pushing Haru to the beginning of the game'—and having her hang around close to the pts as they discuss their pt-ish plans while not being a part of the team—could probably create a stronger red herring for her being the black mask?

talking of hypotheticals because, well, the ship has already sailed on this

yknow, i really have a problem with this scene...

1 - sure one of the pts could still have sold you out, but it basically rules out any of them from being black mask
2 - it kinda removes any shock of what will happen later? i think the okumura scene would've been much more impactful if we didnt know already he was dead

we could've had the imagery of akechi killing the shadow in another way if thats so important

[left hinge]

Well we as player know not the PT (kinda cuz they know akechi is suspicious since the TV station) . Then again sae semi spoil it.

[fresh mulch]

there is still a chance one of the phantom thieves is operating behind our backs tho

but having black mask appear at this moment removes this possibility

[left hinge]

I mean.
All the PT member all running away together aside haru
But I get what u mean

[fresh mulch]

yeah thats why black mask appearing here is bad if they wanna go through this angle

but it seems like they kinda gaveup on the whole suspicion thing?

[left hinge]

I mean the only one suspiciously with akechi is the original 4
MC , Mona , Ryuji and ann

We don't know if they ever tell the crew when they starting to be PT

[lunar vector]

I really think they should've had an early Black Mask auto-loss battle that does the first half of the exposition done in the engine room, tbh, since they already drop most of the mystery.

Sometime in Okumura's Palace, I guess, although IDK where.

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would akechi be wearing a voice modulator here? 🤔

asked no one

[lunar vector]

For it to work he'd need to be doing Blask Mask Voice the whole time, but 🤷

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gosh there's an event I really wanna make, but i'd need the renderer to work on more than the first frame, well, if i wanna do it without suffering too much at least

it would involve a lot of custom animations and item attachments 🫠

good thing this would be post-okumura so there's plenty of time

its not that i need, but i'd be able to do more than simple dialogue at least
but the idea is basically: girls' sleepover

(the pts kinda need more bonding moments in general)

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https://tenor.com/view/yuri-cat-cute-cat-family-guy-heart-locket-yurithecar-gif-15073401055639474044

i finally made a gdrive backup of this mod

thank goodness my computer didnt explode until now

(i joke but thats how i lost a previous mod. the pc legit just decided to say 'no' out of nowhere)

[quiet prism]

Woo! Thank goodness. Now just hope that Google doesn't decide to fuck off either

[mellow pecan]

Feel like that would give away the fact they're walking into a trap. Could maybe put it in Kaneshiro's Palace to replace Shadow Kaneshiro talking about him.

[lunar vector]

I think it needs to be later to help with the soggy middle of the game where the Blask Mask mystery basically doesn't get mentioned for several arcs, tbh.

It would change the nature of the trap and require some rewrites, but I do think it'd ultimately work better.

Like, there's mention of the mysterious other person in the Metaverse in the Madarame and Kaneshiro arcs, and then nothing for so long that the engine room scene requires full flashbacks to them discussing it in those same old events for players to remember

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ig having the pts talk more about this black mask would help?

[lunar vector]

Maybe, but I really feel like the threat needs to be escalated sometime in the middle.

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in vanilla they basically are like 'another persona user? huh... anyway'

[lunar vector]

More talking about it wouldn't be enough to fix it, IMO.

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more actual pressure that the player can feel then?

[lunar vector]

I don't think an additional fight is the ONLY way to escalate, but it's the most obvious.

Even just like. An early threatening run-in.

So you actually recognize the figure in Akechi's made-up flashback when he's like "yeah, the Black Mask tried to kill me... and also he had an eight pack and was shredded... anyway I'm blackmailing you"

Lmfao.

Because I think you don't actually see the mask itself in the Okumura scene??

[fresh mulch]

no way... batman????

[lunar vector]

🦇

Like, if we really want to spruce up the Haru red herring, that could be an interesting way to do it instead. But I think the red herring angle is so underbaked that it's worth throwing it out entirely in favor of amping up the feeling of threat.

This game is simply not at its best when it's trying to be a mystery, and that's fine, lol.

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i do think that the red herring idea is not really that necessary.

funny that the game forgets about the traitor plotline until the obvious traitor joins

[lunar vector]

Right

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when i was playing for the first time i think i was barely a teenager, and english was not my first language, so i barely registered that i should've been looking out for that like everyone online seemed to have been?

it was like, in one cutscene

'you were sold out'

[lunar vector]

It's soooo underbaked 😭

[fresh mulch]

wouldn't sae's flashforwards been a good way to hammer the idea of a traitor?

[lunar vector]

That's true!

[fresh mulch]

she barely touches the part of you being sold out. ig it makes sense she wouldn't know that information since she was left in the dark of the case, but at the same time she could've if the writers wanted

https://tenor.com/view/uni-cat-cats-clock-time-gif-6464528993920579506

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im tempted to make a joke about "but then people will be persona fans about the difference between shutdowns and breakdowns!!" but tbh theyre already persona fans about it even with the scene :V

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uni c:

[simple knoll]

uni is so :3

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honestly my main issue with that bit is just like. when okumura dies the pts are scared for a bit that it mightve been their fault, like did they do something different?? did they just luck out for 5 palaces + X number of mementos requests?? but the player already knows its not them because they saw the actual person responsible do the deed, and i dont really find the dramatic irony of that all that compelling

like i think its more interesting if you only know what the pts know at this stage, so you too can be caught off guard and have to grapple with whether you just killed a guy

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i dont remember, but were there moments in p4 that you got another character's perspective?

p3 has with strega at least

oh p4 has at least the 'guy mumbling in the fog' bit

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do the stupid siu director scenes count

[mellow pecan]

Meeting the daughter of his first victim and one of his most frequent clients isn't enough?

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(i guess theres also akechi and sae talking a few times which is less stupid but prob not what ur thinking)

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p5 has the siu, the makoto scenes (which their existence are probably are a holdover from the original concept in some way), a few with futaba i think, and a few random ones (like kamoshida talking with kawakami)

that was i think our first actual culprit pov, with siu being a red herring one

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oh if you mean every scene that leaves jonkler pov then yea theres plenty of those :v

[fresh mulch]

i dont remember having many of those in p3 and 4 honestly

p5 has plenty

like, with p3 the nonstrega ones usually come from the camera system

(love how there are just cameras in the rooms and everyone seemed pretty okay with them)

[uncut depot]

honestly yeah lol, the pts didnt forget theres a guy going around causing mental shutdowns, in fact they were actively investigating it and thats part of why okumura caught their attention in the first place. they just forgor to be on their guard amidst the morgana drama

[fresh mulch]

(i do wonder how i'll restructure the mona part)

[mellow pecan]

I say change the reasoning to explicitly him thinking he might be a Shadow. I actually like Mona's brief leave as it breaks the repetitiveness of the arcs.

This is extremely hypocritical coming from Mr. "I hope Ann-dono notices me".

Also the codenames and costumes are absolutely worthless.

[lunar vector]

It's really not

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i feel like the reasoning for having codenames (and pt outfits, hell) made sense in an earlier draft of the game where there seems to have been a less solid boundary between the regular and cognitive world, as betrayed by like the unused untranslated "ryujis bag turns up in a vent" event but is meaningless in the final game and it feels like both are only kept for rool of cool

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tbf they barely look any different without the outfits

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this reminds me how the pts apparently managed to record themselves in costume when making the calling card video to shido

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obviously futaba deepfaked their asses B)

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like, sure, they could've made copies irl too, but i dont remember there being anyone capable of that

unless... kanji??? :o

[mellow pecan]

Ren's secret Aeon Cooperation, his tailor.

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you can really tell that the metaverse rules werent properly defined when the anime cutscenes were being produced

[mellow pecan]

Considering how she ends up aspiring to follow her mother in cognitive research, I assume she might've developed a way to record in the Otherworld.

[fresh mulch]

what if the outfits were the friends we made along the way

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if you read down from the message i forwarded, you can see my alternate postulation that necronomicon/prometheus can just Do That

[mellow pecan]

I think the reasoning that their bouncing around in their targets' heads and don't want any subconscious knowing of their activities is sufficient.

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(although really the reason is the writers dont know their own lore)

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Do wish they were consistant with it though.

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i mean, thats 'theorizing to patch up hole that the writers didnt know about'

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it would be if it ever actually mattered to the story

[mellow pecan]

People end up knowing that Akechi is bad news because he never used a codename at used his real name in the Otherworld.

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me when i lie

[mellow pecan]

It's not lying, it's spitballing alternate scenarios.

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then why did you not say that and instead present it like it was a description of the final game

[fresh mulch]

'did kamoshida remember anything? so, there you have it' - mona
'kamoshida's cognition aint changing, right? so i can behave like the troublemaker i am' - ryuji (the scene before being like, 'wait, what about kamoshida at school?')

and when its codename time, then mona proceeds to tell us how dangerous it is to say our names in the palaces

(i only remember this by the ridiculous amount of time i spent restarting the beginning because of the mod)

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it matters so little that neither jonkler nor the writers stop akechi from just fucking yelling "yoshizawa-san" for an entire day

[fresh mulch]

i mean, maruki is there it doesnt matter much

(oh wait was this before that?)

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they dont know its marukis palace for most of that day

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oh you are talking at the start

tbf this was mostly mona's idea, and he aint there

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yea but youd think it should at least like...come up?

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yes

[mellow pecan]

Odd that P5X's CrossFate chapter has Violet already have her codename months before the Maruki arc.

[fresh mulch]

why the name violet in the first place? she aint purple girl

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dont they literally spell out when they decide it that its an english translation of sumire

[fresh mulch]

200 hour game

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also counterpoint, the rank 7 dress

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(which makes it stupider that p5x gives her her codename way before shes supposed to have it btw)

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wait her first name is in hiragana?

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for some reason yeah

(imagine my disappointment being able to read it in p5t dlc promos )

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so uh its like... kasumi is a mist over sumire? and when thats lifted she... blooms like a violet (flower) or smth?

thats what i got from this

im not good at poetry

[mellow pecan]

Maurki put a cognitive mist over Sumire's personality.

[fresh mulch]

i wonder which arcana sumire would've been if she was in base p5 (so there wouldnt've been a special one for her. they wouldve integrated her seamlessly instead)

like, the closest parallel to faith is star basically

it fits pretty well, but so does moon

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i mean. her personas are star in p3r dlc

[mellow pecan]

That's what Reload DLC went with.

Poor Hifumi.

[fresh mulch]

oh i havent played that yet

yeah star makes most sense

but i prefer moon

[mellow pecan]

Because it fits? Or because of Mishima hate?

[fresh mulch]

because it fits

i'd say it fits sumire's whole thing more than star or faith

||we are already constantly mooned by her anyway||

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can anyone pin this to the thread?

i swear its very important

[lunar vector]

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🔥 thank you 🔥

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now i have peak every day

(i wonder if you can get anything about me from the randomass games i play lmao)

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fellow inscryption player

(ive switched to gale for inscryption though since iirc its better optimized)

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i have yet to play it

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lul

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also i recommend prey if ya wanna some doomed yuri (yes... really)

my gay ass just playing shooty shooty horror game when suddenly a whole mission revolves around two lesbians

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i checked out inscryption mainly because my partner likes it
i got them to read umineko so binging a bunch of their interests is the least i could do :V

[fresh mulch]

true

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it is quite fun, although if you get to the point of modding it bear in mind that the big alternate mode mods arent compatible with each other and so you should only enable the one youre actually gonna play in that sitting lol

[fresh mulch]

most of the time i actually dont put any content mod (or meaningful content) in 99% of the games i play funnily enough

maybe if i ever 100% them

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certainly i wouldnt use the mods in question without beating the game first lol

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bruh my last p5 achievement in 350 hours was fucking batting cages 😭

i already platinumd vanilla and royal on ps4, so i aint trying to get again here anyway

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me having the shido palace achievement on steam but not the fucking "i got arsène" achievement because my saves are from ps4 and i only open the game for mod testing

[fresh mulch]

how did you get them from ps4

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iirc i ripped them with apollo save tool and then ran them through some kind of conversion program?

idr for sure it was ages ago lol

i do remember making a help thread at the time, it might still exist

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yeah i aint jailbreaking my ps4

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fair nuff, you might be able to get away with simply backing up your saves to a usb though there might be an extra step after that idk

i think they have to be decrypted or smth? which apollo already handles but if it isnt an option then you need some other program

(i wasnt too worried about my ps4 getting banned since i pmuch only got it as a p5 machine lol)

[fresh mulch]

okay cheat engine speedhacks work for p5 lol

i should be able to play some vanilla with it to prepare saves i can go to

cause like... i somehow dont have any other vanilla saves before maruki's deadline

how is the 'save archive' idea going btw?

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not a thing, afaict
there are some saves on gamebanana though

(that reminds me, i should fuck around with the debug scripts more. i wanna see if theres a way to test requests)

[fresh mulch]

that was a lie

[grand cipher]

why bother working on the mod when we can chat about stuff.

talkings better then modding.

it's how it is for me lol

[fresh mulch]

i mean, when the topic is somewhat related to anything approaching the concepts of a game or story, then it is technically useful to talk about it

kinda

probably...

the yuri and the cats are just for the feelsgood chemicals tho

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-yuri-gif-17427509376770519401

[quiet prism]

Sorry for the late reply, most girls like to write their names in hiragana because it's cuter that way, even though one official document is usually appears in kanji unless the parents deliberately decide to write it in hiragana

[fresh mulch]

oh i see

funnily enough, ann uses kanji

sumire and kasumi seem to be the only ones with hiragana here

[grand cipher]

dumb question, but her name or in game?

[fresh mulch]

i wonder if its for the すみ sumi thing (kasumi sumire)

[fresh mulch]

both

[sullen drift]

That’s fascinating. I think it might be because she’s a mysterious character.

I normally go out of my way tonuse Kanji in my writing and use Hiragana for plot reasons 妃舞璃 (Dancing Princess of Glass) is one way to translate it. But if I remove the last Kanji she goes back to still being Himari but just being a Dancing Princess instead of a Sailor Scout. Iikewise The mystical legendary home of the Kazeneko, NekoIshi, is spelled in Hiriagana so it can mean Rock of the Cats and Will of the Cats. and I can laugh about ut meaning Kitty is stoned.

Sorry. I also think the Hiragana was intentional as it meant yhat anyone who knew Japanese would be like saying “Think about wha exactly her name means… think about this character….”

[simple knoll]

meanwhile, my desktop:

[fresh mulch]

tell me there's a tray or smth for the apps

[simple knoll]

yeah

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i could probably use something like this

[simple knoll]

switch to linux and use kde desktop enviornment

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nuh uh

[grand cipher]

animated?

[simple knoll]

no

[grand cipher]

dang

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this is so ass 🔥

[simple knoll]

windows start menu sucks

[grand cipher]

get tiktok templates.

yey

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what tf does that even mean

[grand cipher]

I assume like youtube short templates so people can edit their stuff on a computer but with templates so everything fits.

OR

Tiktok video ideas like dancing and stuff

[fresh mulch]

aaah im getting overwhelmed by the amount of stuff i have to do

[rare oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/rudosiri-umayuri-yuriuma-sigmayuri-sigma-yuri-gif-12063133977181729167

^girlkisser rn

[simple knoll]

i'm boring ig

[fresh mulch]

nah its fine

minimalist

[simple knoll]

my actual files are not minimalist

don't look at my modding folder

[fresh mulch]

same

guys how do i kill jose permanently

[quiet prism]

Don't think you can. You really find him that annoying or his battle

[fresh mulch]

he breaks the balance of the game so the first

his battle is nothing to write home about either

[quiet prism]

Ah you mean the EXP thing in the metaverse was enough stamps

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you need to talk to him to convert the will crystals to will rings tho
i think the actual shop is called by flow function after though, so

[quiet prism]

Make it so he never appears

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the will rings

[fresh mulch]

tbf having you haul the weakened forms of the rings first sounds fair

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u do that anyway until u beat the palace

[fresh mulch]

i dont i use sp adhesive 3

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i wanna argue but tbh i didnt rly use most of the crystals either lol

but yea i think you could nuke like everything past the ring upgrade and optional dialogue if i remember the structure of the bf right

[quiet prism]

Great effects horrible SP cost

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sp is not that rare

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my fear is enabling too late and having the stamp things be too much of a boring grind to get

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(it occurs to me if you nuke the shop that it means missing any of the will seeds in the palace means missing them altogether)

[quiet prism]

They're not that bad, then again I'm using a guide so I usually do them during the mementos request runs

[fresh mulch]

i do like the shop itself tho

its nice

but... you can buy willseeds???

yeah thats gone

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only if u miss them in the palace

[quiet prism]

Still it's a good idea to get rid of it. Makes it much more compelling to explore the whole damn Palace

[fresh mulch]

specially since i'll be ideally having bosses for each seed

i should just be able to edit the shop ftd

[strong moat]

I do not agree at all, that's just making it a chore

[quiet prism]

Different strokes for different blokes.

[strong moat]

persona 2 does the same shit and it's annoying as hell

[fresh mulch]

meh. if you just speedrun a palace you shouldnt get the loot you missed

specially for this mod

[strong moat]

you already don't for the most part, will seeds are like the major exception

[quiet prism]

Oh that reminds me brawler, happy birthday

[strong moat]

thank you but it's not technically my birthday today lol

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i find snooping around palaces more interesting than having to step on every tile in a p2 dungeon because the map guy said hed give me something though

[strong moat]

I've just been holding onto the role since my actual birthday

lol

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it has been brawlers birthday for 10 days

[quiet prism]

Oh

[strong moat]

if you're wondering, I don't actually have permissions to give myself the birthday role

or take it away

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lmao

[strong moat]

also though it's really funny

[fresh mulch]

... am i the only one that always fills every tile in games with them?

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i didnt mind in the q games but also i hate p2 encounter rate

[fresh mulch]

i cant imagine p2 without fastforward ngl

[strong moat]

I do agree but it's the same rough deal. you just make it a chore to get the things overall

[fresh mulch]

one day i'll get to finally filling every map tile in metroid dread (the name is appropriate)

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i dont think it would though

[strong moat]

also exploring a palace to its entirety just. isn't the point of p5's palaces?

[strong moat]

it's not that big of a deal but it's really just the same thing if you lock them to their palaces. just happens to be less annoying in p5

[fresh mulch]

the game has hidden stuff that you get by exploring idk how it isnt the point

it was going to be even more relevant if they kept the 'hidden passage to beginning' mechanic they dropped by okumura

[strong moat]

yeah but those are small things

[strong moat]

those exist bc of royal lol

[fresh mulch]

narratively there is also the whole 'mapping a route' that is all about learning the ins and outs of the place you are infiltrating. it is the most exploration-focused persona by far

[strong moat]

the kamoshida one in particular is like hey! you played P5! well check this out you can use the grappling hook to skip this whole section wow

mapping a route does mean finding a route. they don't need to intricately explore the palace in detail, just find a route

[fresh mulch]

theyve always been there. i dont remember much of what royal even added in that department

(btw what is the point of this?)

[strong moat]

oh I just think that unless the missable things are minor, I don't fw having will seed accessories be permanently lost like that

paying for them is the punishment. raise their price instead tbh

[fresh mulch]

i mean, its almost impossible to miss will seeds. the game makes sure you know they exist. this is the mod that makes you actually walk around tokyo and take your time. the shop thing incentivizing rushing a palace because you can just get them later anyway (remember, all will seeds will have bosses, so its not just 'grab them and go on') is pretty antithetical to the whole philosophy. raising prices is a very bandaid solution that doesnt really punish

[uncut depot]

you said ur doing the backstories so missing those is prob a substantial cost in itself for anyone who cares about, like, story

[fresh mulch]

that too

they are a reward for spending resources and time defeating extra bosses here, so the payoff has to be worth it, and that means that making them buyable anyway is just gamebreaking, since resources aren't as free as before (hopefully)

i really dont get why missable things that have an entire ui counter to them are bad

it is entirely on you

[quiet prism]

It'll be interesting to see what kind of enemies you create for the other will seeds. They still have to be stronger than the normal enemies, but at the same time they can't be stronger than the last one.

[fresh mulch]

the biggest philosophy behind this mod is

sesbian lex

no i mean

take your time

as the name suggests

you are supposed to navigate the hostile world that doesnt care about you, not the opposite. the world is supposed to move on without you, you don't matter to it. time marches on and the only way to not get swept by it is to just stop, and take your own time, create your own space in the world together with others like yourself(confidants, the pts...). everything i make is at least trying to tie back to one of these concepts. i remove and add conveniences according to all of this.

another core part of the philosophy is giving players meaningful choices. think of like when you answer a question in class. you can look better by answering correctly (+charm), or you can learn by failing (+knowledge). this is one of the many choices you can make alongside others. for example, i could've made 'the world unforgiving' here by punishing you even harder for failing, but that's 1 - stupid, and 2 - completely missing the point

so, like, for some stuff i would need some pretty convincing reasons to change my mind, and trivializing bosses and rewards by paying instead later on is just not something that meshes well here.
you could argue that this is a meaningful choice, but i dont see it. as i said before, bosses will fill your palace alert meter most of the time, and that can only go down by using items that require crafting (so, no mass producing and requires spending evening time), or getting out and wait for it to go down. the number 1 reason i have alert the way it is is so that you cant just outfarm the resource requirements, because you'll always have a hard-ish wall to pressure you (but not something as binary as mandatory leaving), so no matter how expensive i make the will seeds, it is still achievable through a farmable resource, which makes this choice completely lopsided

(i mostly did this wall of text to iron better the concept in my own head)

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-hehehe-mwehehe-gif-18358017715551073826

have cat

[jovial turret]

cat?

or kat

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car*

[jovial turret]

eepy car

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i'd say strong enough to have to dump resources to survive, but not so much the fight drags on

anyway i'll be sleeping

gnight homos

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ong i forgor this is my new wallpaper and got jumpscared by pretty girls when closing firefox

yknow what im in useless poll mood

ryuji and mona dont make the cut they arent fabulous enough sorry

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u dont find the cat beautiful

[grand cipher]

depends on the way people take it

[simple knoll]

yusuke is the definition of pretty boy

especially if you see that mod where he has different hair

[fresh mulch]

Ngl i kinda like ann x sumi just because the imagery of them kissing is just 🔥

I dont need any reason other than pretty girls kissing

[simple knoll]

https://gamebanana.com/mods/631281

[fresh mulch]

Surprised about the 1 akechi vote

Ig this is the yuri thread not yaoi thread

[uncut depot]

he is pretty but you asked for the prettiest

[uncut depot]

like actually if were talking about sp costs. the fucking third awakening skills
nothing lives long enough to justify 90 sp on anything

[simple knoll]

I never found akechi attractive

only the mementos mission version of him

[lunar vector]

Sumi's design is very pretty. I simply am not attracted to anime characters 😅

[rare oriole]

can you even call yourself a persona fan at that point /s

[fresh mulch]

Couldnt be me

Morning im gay

uh... huh...

i havent even drank my coffee yet

[fresh mulch]

this looks like it could be very simple in practice, but the wording is confusing as hell to me

to begin with, Mod.cs?

[sudden mist]

it's a code mod thing

you'd have to make a reloaded c# project and write quite a bit of code to be able to save any custom save data and then be able to use it

[fresh mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

time to learn that ig

[sudden mist]

iirc you wanted to use this to store extra bitflags/counts, in which case that would require hooking GetBit, SetBit, GetCount and SetCount to redirect to info in the custom save data area if a certain bit was called

(and also it seems that save data framework is steam only )

[uncut depot]

tbf considering 1.0.4 thats probably true of a lot of things now

[uncut depot]

alternatively, flowscript framework function to get and set custom save data
(i made this but never released bc thus far no one has actually used custom save data in a published mod)

[fresh mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-sir-yayy-kataman-gif-12260883688244422951

it works

this worked

(i am so lost)

okay so uh... should the mod files be in the project? it seems to be able to build to the mod folder just fine

[uncut depot]

i tend to use visual studio and that has a dropdown in the properties window for knowing whether to copy assets on build

[fresh mulch]

well this is rider, so there should be something similar

[fresh mulch]

(how do i change the ide used for debug i set the wrong one as default )

[fresh mulch]

(plz)

[uncut depot]

its in my flowutils repo, you have to build from source though and ive done basically zero testing lmao

[fresh mulch]

[uncut depot]

ive tested the regular flowutils mod, the parts ive pushed to the repo anyway, but not rly the custom save ones i dont think

[fresh mulch]

isnt there suppose to be like, a functions.json? (this is the normal one. the customsavedata one made one)

[simple knoll]

functions.json goes in the femulator-> bf folder

[fresh mulch]

im showing every file, and there isnt a femulator folder here

[simple knoll]

hmm functions json was there when I built it

[fresh mulch]

oh well what really matters is this is here

[uncut depot]

hm, did i not set the functions json to PreserveNewest?

...no, it looks correct in visual studio
just copy the one from source, or at least the specific functions you need

[fresh mulch]

i opened this one

[uncut depot]

just copy the definitions in functions.json, they dont rly do anything in flowutils itself theyre just there for ease of grabbing them for mods that use them

[fresh mulch]

i see

[fresh mulch]

uh am i doing something wrong? 🤔

[uncut depot]

strings

[fresh mulch]

oh i see

do i need to do anything else aside from copying functions.json?

understandable have a nice day

[fresh mulch]

using the the Functions.json from base flowutils in my mod loads fine. but the customsavedata version does this 🤔

could this be why?

[fresh mulch]

well, giving them dummy indexes made so it didnt crash on startup at least (obviously it crashed when calling them)

oh i see

[fresh mulch]

finally got these bitches to appear

now to find out why executing these is crashing

well, on the bright side, the game now recognizes these functions

hmmm

i have no idea what this means

[rare oriole]

make framework
no one uses it

[fresh mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wine-tired-cat-with-wine-gif-1106872935704015304

wdym "Possible null reference assignment.", you damn squigglies?????

[rare oriole]

Try functions means it can fail, the whole thing actually returns a true/false if it succeeded

{
    //it worked
}

[fresh mulch]

good to know

(im just trusting that ocean's untested stuff is working 100% as intended)

[simple knoll]

what is the need for custom save data?

[fresh mulch]

a lot of stuff?

[simple knoll]

like?

if you said I missed it

[fresh mulch]

like the many custom flags

[sullen drift]

The Dark Side has Erika and Mistolina fanfic.

And for some reason Chie and Makoto Yuri that starts with Makoto witnessing a fight over a beef bowl.

aka the greatest fight wver and worth buying Persona arena!

I uninstalled PA because after Chie fighting a Caped topless boxer for a beefbowl nothing could compare.

Other than my countless headcanon Yuri and frienship fanfics about who watched the fight.

[simple knoll]

OOH

yeah I was gonna do something similar for a mod that had joker over sumire. I wanted to make a sperate flag for joker's name

[sullen drift]

This mod just gets more intriguing even when it’s not fuelling a dozen different Yuris. I need to teach myself to write short fic…

Because of this mod!

Custom flags sounds awesome.

[fresh mulch]

if only i knew what this was talking about...

[rare oriole]

this can happen for a lot of reasons, the error isn't really helpful for it

[fresh mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/bum-gif-842992762499342075

[rare oriole]

make sure the api isn't null, and if it's not then it's likely an issue with the api itself

[fresh mulch]

okay its def not null

okay so this entire thing is working correctly

okay so this is the culprit

[sullen drift]

Btw I made a guild called Yuri

[uncut depot]

thats on me, apparently i forgor index

[uncut depot]

change it to whatever index flowscript framework says in the first of these screencaps

[fresh mulch]

yeah i did that. still have the crash when running the function

[fresh mulch]

(btw which log is this thing printing to?)

[uncut depot]

should just be reloaded console

[fresh mulch]

i just debugged by killing the process until it didnt die

[fresh mulch]

i must be blind then

[uncut depot]

anything there ideally gets written to file but sometimes if the program crashes suddenly the most recent lines get lost this was actually a thing that inconvenienced me testing a function in regular flowutils and my workaround was record the console with obs

[fresh mulch]

yeah i got the screenshot of the error by recording too

[uncut depot]

i kinda have other things i should be doing today but ill see if i cant fit "make a minimal test case and see if i can fix it" in somewhere

[fresh mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-sir-yayy-kataman-gif-12260883688244422951

oh okay it is indeed printing

yeah its is 100% this one. i only got say gex but no sesbian lex

(btw my project is a mess rn)

[fresh mulch]

sry this too much nerd stuff

https://tenor.com/view/sakura-trick-kiss-yuri-gif-22001881

have some yuri

[lunar vector]

Sakura Trick spotted??

[fresh mulch]

sakura trick spotted!!!!!!!!

(back then, my young gay heart really enjoyed the excessive kissing )

(i mean i still do)

[fresh mulch]

i cant take this title seriously

a woman

[uncut depot]

apparently i was trying to add a couple functions related to romance to the main flowutils but forgor

thats not related to the custom save issue, im just observing

also it kinda seems like CMM_GET_IN_USE_ID might be redundant with GET_INVITE_WORK but im not sure because im not sure how the latter works exactly?

if it is though then why do they not use it for like. meiji bf etc

[fresh mulch]

what do those do anyway

[uncut depot]

the functions i named or meiji lol

[fresh mulch]

i was going to ask about the functions but why not meiji while we are at it

[uncut depot]

i made get_in_use_id for when i dont feel like having to check both platonic and romantic id for the girls, so it just spits out which id the girl is on (if theyve been started) and then i can just check that. originally it was for the doubt mod but i figured it had enough general use to be worth moving
but then i realized GET_INVITE_WORK might already do that except like i said i dont actually know for sure, id need to test

also meiji is just a worse version of chihaya affinity reading in that it passes time, i chucked some hidden mechanics in in doubt but tbh its still not great lol

[sullen drift]

What is this wonder?

[mellow pecan]

This is a mod of P5R, not P5X.

[fresh mulch]

if only i could make p5x gay

[fresh mulch]

maybe i should make a day-by-day spreadsheet to plan things out better...

[queen lintel]

This looks insane

[fresh mulch]

thanks i'm also just as insane

btw aren't saturdays in japan a shorter period at school?

because if so i have an interesting idea 🤔

(can anyone confirm plz)

[queen lintel]

They don't really have 6 days anymore, but Saturdays were half days

[fresh mulch]

thanks

[weary rapids]

What are you planning Girl

[mellow pecan]

Yuri, presumably.

[fresh mulch]

(im pretty sure this is feasible)

(the somethingcalendarmode 1 seems like its used for sunday. yes the [] number is off by 1)

there are three day times already ingame. and i can kind of fake a second afternoon by just keeping a flag that turns on at saturday/sunday, and only turns off after already doing an activity

and that flag will allow afternoon to pass only when its off

basically, you'll have way more time to do stuff, which offsets a bit the higher requirements im having through

(i'll also have to implement logic to prevent the same confidant from being able to be done twice...)

ideally i'll also have the distinction of clear and cloudy matter a bit more

(if i had the freedom of making my own game i would probably have a less binary time system in the first place tbh. like, different activities take more time. but anyway)

btw is there a way to forecast weather in p5 or its just a p4 thing

huh... i wonder if this does nothing and its just p3 leftovers

because its not used at all in the flowscript

oh well. i know what i'll be spending the next few days bashing my head against

wish me luck

[mellow pecan]

Best of luck.

[fresh mulch]

Good night gays (and guys ig)

[sullen drift]

Gnignt! Your mod makes me happy!

[fresh mulch]

And yall make me happy

Win-win

[grand cipher]

except sometimes for me with my dumb questions. TwT

[fresh mulch]

Nah

Anyway... should i have yuri somewhere in the thread title?

[simple knoll]

take yuri time

[fresh mulch]

In one hand im just joshing that this is a yuri thread, so this is not such a serious question, but in the other hand... its not apparent at first glance that this mod is very yuriful 🤔

[fresh mulch]

...

Feck it lets stop pretending this is anything but an excuse to get girls to kiss

[P5R PC] Take Your Time | [FEMC & Yuri] Story and Gameplay Overhaul

The funny part is that this thread already was an autocomplete suggestion when typing #yuri, without me needing to have it in the title lol

[uncut depot]

lmfao

[fresh mulch]

Congrats to sumi for being gorgeous and winning

Mornin gays

[quiet prism]

Morn.

[fresh mulch]

like in the normal game, there are days that have costumers, but unlike in the normal game, you can't just drive them off by repeatedly talking with them

this is not your home after all. you'll just have to contend with the attict or going outside when there are clients

this also means that kawakami's services will also be unavailable then

[fresh mulch]

okay so far i hadnt had to do this funky logic

i moved stuff in the scheduler to be basically off by one time period, but idk how much this can break things

i'll just implement some logic to move you idk to the leblanc attic in the second afternoon

the school should still be open even if there arent classes right?

like, for clubs and stuff

well this was already done for me at least

damn. early afternoon is PRETTY

[fresh mulch]

hopefully confidant stuff still works here

oh yeah i wonder where i can find the 'morning', 'afternoon', etc dds files

why is she looking so much like nahobino here

(ngl im not a huge fan of how they did ryuji and makoto here)

haru tho

(i got sidetracked oops)

[simple knoll]

does Japan have half-days?

well they do now in take your time I suppose lol

[fresh mulch]

every thing i read and heard online says that saturdays are half days or just not school days anymore

even by the time of p5's release

[simple knoll]

ah

by my sophomore year my school started implementing monthly half days lol

only monthly...

[fresh mulch]

i saw something like that mentioned too

ig its really school-dependant, but seems like full saturdays are not the majority

[fresh mulch]

Im totally not feeling overwhelmed by all the hundreds of tiny things i have to do (and polish)

(Exaggerating. But it is a lot)

https://tenor.com/view/bochitherock-ikuyokita-kita-hitori-gif-7302279955218667004

(I never watched bocchi )

[simple knoll]

you should

it's a yuri polycule (real)

[fresh mulch]

I aint falling for fake news

[quiet prism]

This doesn't have to do with anything regarding the mod but it is Yuri adjacent. Fūka Izumi, the voice of disaster lesbian Utena Hiiragi/Magia Basier is also the voice of Yakumo Ezo, the ignores your personal space lesbian from Chained Soldier.

[fresh mulch]

uh idk anything about this. but the little i've found kinda tells me there are no lesbians in this. and i have very little faith that anything approaching that is not just sexualization

HECK YEAH I GOT THE AO3 INVITATION

im pogging so hard rn

i'll be posting some much needed yuri

[lunar vector]

BTW, there should be a number of fixes in the latest version of the event editor that you've been requesting. That includes field rotation working (hopefully) properly, coordinates always being visible in the MLa_ editor, a special bitflag widget in the conditions section, and Ann no longer being trapped behind the classroom door

[fresh mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-sir-yayy-kataman-gif-12260883688244422951

[lunar vector]

She is free...

[fresh mulch]

she's no longer in baby gay jail

[lunar vector]

Out of the closet at last

[fresh mulch]

yay

https://tenor.com/view/persona-video-games-futaba-sakura-anne-takamaki-yusuke-kitagawa-gif-17536521

there's a joke to be made here

[lunar vector]

Re-closeted Futaba...... 😔

[fresh mulch]

>comes out of the closet
>sees two pretty girls
>"nah i aint ready"
>reclosets

[fresh mulch]

btw the coincidence for the girl that says the gayest things to have a whole scene where she is afraid to get out of the literal closet is just... 👌

[fresh mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/kita-ikuyo-bocchi-bokita-good-night-sweet-dreams-gif-18277167418677951067

[fresh mulch]

[terse shadow]

(btw if anyone somehow missed this)

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[fresh mulch]

why do i keep scope creeping (but tbf in my defense, this is a good addition with how time consuming i want some stuff to be)

[fresh mulch]

yknow what, i'll make my own version of the recolor mods to be natively in this one

bruh i never realized. is princekechi's color scheme supposed to be orange?

[simple knoll]

ig cuz joker is already red

[fresh mulch]

i was thinking more like, white

[simple knoll]

also I disagree with adding this

I'd keep it seperate

I like just the red. it's less overwhelming for me

[fresh mulch]

its all going to be in a file i can toggle

[fresh mulch]

bruh i thought i was in my cpks

[simple knoll]

oh ok a config option

[fresh mulch]

oh... right

bruh i am getting so lost in my files

tbh the reason i wanna do this is because my guide/documentation spreadsheets already have colors for each pt and i thought that it would be cute to have it be reflected in the mod

of course, this will be a config

[uncut depot]

not rly prince in specific so much as akechi in general

[simple knoll]

ominous red square:

[grand cipher]

what is that for anyway

[fresh mulch]

look pretty

(im also kinda tired and wanna do something more chill)

smh atlus

omg the joker from the futaba placeholder portrait is so much more fabulous

(original btw)

they made jonkle more masculine smh

[fresh mulch]

(btw guys if i vanish for a month straight its because i rediscovered enter the gungeon)

[uncut depot]

understandable have a nice day

[simple knoll]

yassified joker

[fresh mulch]

(i'll be using this one 😈 )

[grand cipher]

surprised the futaba AoA portrait ain't the beta one

[fresh mulch]

fixed it

[fresh mulch]

oh yeah a reason to at least have builtin recolor: the melee weapons being easier to distinguish, since the pts will be able to use more than their vanilla weapon type

i'll probably have that be its own separate option

[fresh mulch]

(completely optional btw. just doing this for fun really)

i think pretty soon i wanna get back to making haru's events

[jovial turret]

Those cut ins are fire

[fresh mulch]

i could probably reduce the brightness of some of these

~~mona's flashing me ~~

https://tenor.com/view/bisou-gif-13989858933364395908

[sudden mist]

[jovial turret]

And ryujis mouth

If you ever make that a separate mod I would download 100%

[fresh mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/colgate-tooth-teeth-toothpaste-toothbrush-gif-14529191

[jovial turret]

Wait not the mouth, I meant the cut ins as a whole

[fresh mulch]

(this reminds me, i need to add the tyt title)

[fresh mulch]

i have to sleep

gnight gays

btw my brain keeps thinking makoto is facing her back to us instead of her front, and I get like 'dayum girl you're gonna break your spine posing like that'

~~i havent had a poll in a while ~~

(... hopefully my future children never see the things I do online)

[uncut depot]

ur planning kids?

[fresh mulch]

still unsure tbh

Morning

[uncut depot]

hewwo

[fresh mulch]

||~~ive come down with a bad case of baby fever ~~||

[fresh mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/yuri-yuri-lore-ryokita-kitaryo-haybocara-gif-9941202818835635597

[sudden mist]

ryotune mentioned ‼️