[P5R PC] Rose & Violet Male Romance Addition

[noble helm]

but yeaj

[restive iron]

oh

I haven't played rose and violet

[dry karma]

rip lol

[restive iron]

I don't really mind though.

anyways yeah unless they're only inside the bustup param it doesn't have them

[dry karma]

alright fresh reloaded 2.5 install

let's find out

you know i never thought...

i should clear persona essentials cache

that caused a problem for me before

[restive iron]

yeah thats the modloader one I said earlier

[dry karma]

yeah i know

[restive iron]

smh

[dry karma]

....

wait

fuck me

i need to read

https://tenor.com/view/ehe-anime-gif-anime-girl-teehee-gif-27178660

[restive iron]

true persona fan

it happens to the best of us

[dry karma]

oh fuck i need to run around in game it didn't generate the kasumi models LMAO

oh wait

all of the config options defaulted

[restive iron]

lol

[dry karma]

i'm going to shoot myself

it can't be reloaded 2.5 right

[restive iron]

it's a possibility

would be very weird though

[dry karma]

yknow i never tried disabling unhardcoded romance

[restive iron]

mind as well try everything at this point

[dry karma]

nope

i can tell if it's broken or not based on the camera angle

looks like r&v is breaking it

but it never broke anything before

i'll reinstall r&v maybe it's broken

like not just the bustup it's breaking all of my events now

[restive iron]

it's haunted

[noble helm]

haunted spaghetti

[potent marlin]

i ate the code

[dry karma]

ok fuck you reloaded

[noble helm]

idk why that crashes it instead of just showing an error window

[dry karma]

also istg if this is a linux issue

[noble helm]

wish reloaded had a better error handler

instead of just dying when you sneeze on it while its downloading something

[dry karma]

ok fuck reloaded installer

oh wait

[noble helm]

oh yeah that thing

[dry karma]

😃

thanks gamebanana

[noble helm]

gb moment

[restive iron]

the world doesn't want male romances

[dry karma]

vpn time

[noble helm]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1b7r-vK7wl4v_e0YONoU_6G0gNo06vkfr/view

try this

[dry karma]

seeing my own mod on the home page is like a jumpscare

ty

cg you were right

r&v moved these event files to the costume framework folder

@sacred siren why

it wasn't like this before

he must've done it in the most recent update

this needs to be fixed immedietly

now i know why that person was having issues

[restive iron]

weird thing to do but atleast the problem was found.

[dry karma]

i'll move these to costume framework until zylvos puts them back

cuz i'd rather not use costume framework on this mod

i need to quell my rage. it's okay

[restive iron]

do a marathon

[dry karma]

i'm more mad i didn't chekc earlier

bc i remembered looking when i first started making this mod

oh god i feel so bad for the person i dismissed

[noble helm]

yeah idk why theyre in the cf bind folder

[dry karma]

the mod has been broken since the last fucking r&v update WEEKS ago

[restive iron]

I wouldn't beat yourself up about it. I don't think it was mentioned anywhere so it's not like you could've really known.

[noble helm]

i was a little irritated since i didnt want to make a sln/vs project just for shut up sae

just wanted to use remix toolkit

[restive iron]

I think we need to kill atlus

[noble helm]

[dry karma]

i had to add cf for my early violet patch as well

...isn't the bind only for models

[noble helm]

mainly

[restive iron]

It can do other things

[noble helm]

the characters folder is mostly just for assets related to the character replacement

its why i threw the bustups and spds in there

[restive iron]

yea

[dry karma]

couldn't you have just used persona essentials?

is there some advantage to the characters folder?

[noble helm]

using it lets you define a character's character slot

which you can then define in costumes

which prevent unsupported costumes from showing up

you can technically just chuck all of the assets into persona essentials/probing path cpk

but for bustups, cutins, misc textures like that i'd rather put them in characters

so 1. the user knows they did everything correctly
2. so they dont get replaced by other mods (unless theyre targeting the same slot)

which is why i only kept it to models and textures

[dry karma]

ok looks like none of the existing files in the mod are in cf

just the one mishima file

[noble helm]

throwing stuff in there usually isnt that big of a deal 99% of the time, it just makes making configs require adding a bind

although uh

evt files should not be in there

[dry karma]

which begs the question why the ryuji event broke for me

[noble helm]

spaghetti ghost

[restive iron]

ryuji is haunted

[noble helm]

the Prison

[dry karma]

anatasie wall

your custom mod menu setup has been very useful for this wisteria lol

[noble helm]

yeah i had to like

test the cutscene events when i was doing the animations for them

and quickly realized how miserable it was going to be if i didnt add a loader to the menu

[limpid cypress]

hello darkness, my old friend-

[dry karma]

stop staring at me like that ryuji

it's r&v's bustup params for sure

but it also somehow causes the rest of the event to freeze

seriously this error now of all times

ok broken event fixed by the character folder

but bustup freeze is def still happening

it's not causing me to crash like the other person said just freeze

but i suppose different things can happen on different machines

[restive iron]

might be a windows/linux thing. Unless they also had linux

[dry karma]

[restive iron]

true

[dry karma]

in any case the fix would be either bustup param merging or some remix toolkit shenanagins

[limpid cypress]

question, which route would be easier to handle?

[dry karma]

uh what do you mean

like as a player

[limpid cypress]

oh no sorry

i have zero knowledge of modding, but i was curious which option would be a better fix

whether it be bustup param merging or remix toolkit shenanigans as you said

[dry karma]

waiting for someone to do bustup param merging would be ideal

but idk who would be able to do it

the config option would be a temporary fix for now

[limpid cypress]

good luck to you 😭

[dry karma]

remix toolkit is really easy

[noble helm]

oceanstuck would be able to

but idk if she has the time for it rn'

[limpid cypress]

out of curiosity, is zylvos gonna be editing the lines or anything?

[restive iron]

the curse of persona modding

[dry karma]

i need zylvos to either add it as an option himself or add the gay joker bustups to his params

[noble helm]

this is kinda why i like

used ann swimsuit for her bath event

1 because im lazy and am bad at bustup editing but 2 itd cause a lot of compat issues

[dry karma]

in any case i'm done for the day until i can talk to zylvos

[noble helm]

idk why bustupparam is like the only one that has merging issues

[dry karma]

i suppose because it's a dat file?

no clue

[restive iron]

I think it's just that it isn't as indepth as the others

[dry karma]

i suppose if we get good merging you can make it

weird bc this wasn't a graphical bug it was a straight up freeze

[noble helm]

my only reason besides being lazy, gone 😔

[dry karma]

i'm gonna wanna edit this event and move the camera like zylvos did

i think that's all he did to this event

[tough aspen]

thats literally all the generic file merging

[restive iron]

thats what I mean

either way it doesn't really matter

[tough aspen]

i would assume plenty of the other generic files would have issues if people cared enough to mess with them

like, theres technically generic merging for evt fadeout table but no one actually used it and dc ended up just making a standalone dependency mod anyway

the main reason i want bustup param merging as a persona essentials pr instead of a separate thing is just so people dont have to update their bustup mods (and therefore old ones that arent being maintained dont end up in a gay jonkler situation)

[noble helm]

true...

u should do it

[dry karma]

i mean you can always merge it on the github repo right

does persona essentials have a github?

[tough aspen]

i am aware of how adding to persona essentials works. ive done it before

[dry karma]

ah

[tough aspen]

it is partly college and mostly adhd that is stopping me

[noble helm]

weeps heavily

[tough aspen]

same 😭

[restive iron]

Theoretically, if you add one line a day. It will be completed.

[dry karma]

this is so me

[noble helm]

make a time machine and ask your future self to do it

[dry karma]

i'm currently hyperfixated so i am zooming but it's downhill pretty soon probably

[noble helm]

now its their problem

[tough aspen]

(i also have the too many projects curse but im folding that one in with adhd lol)

[restive iron]

Theoretically, if you add one line to every project a day. They all will be completed.

[tough aspen]

not all of them are code but yes

[restive iron]

🤓

[noble helm]

maybe deathchaos could do it?

[dry karma]

for now i'll probably ask zylvos to make a bustup param with his changes and i'll ad the config thing

isn't deathchaos pretty busy too?

[noble helm]

i imagine

but worth a shot

@cursive folio do you think you could look into fixing bustup param merging at some point

[dry karma]

such a big modder in my thread...

[restive iron]

Hating on oceansuck smh

[dry karma]

nah bro i was surprised oceansuck even talked to me as well

wisteria and zylvos too for a bit

my first dm to zylvos i was so nervous

[restive iron]

4 big modders in your thread...

[tough aspen]

bruh there was a long stretch in bmd emulator's development where it was most of the way done but i just completely stalled out on ider what the issue was

[dry karma]

i was a mod user for so long and i dabbled in text editing with better haru rejection (and got featured somehow) before slinking away again

i saw that zylvos wasn't doing male romances in r&v and went

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-gif-25117042

[tough aspen]

that meme line is the entire reason p5d crossdressing exists lol
and it just kept going from there

[dry karma]

most modders can relate to that lmao

i thought that same thing when zylvos said he wouldn't add red kasumi either

https://gamebanana.com/mods/621379s speaking of shameless self promo teehee

[noble helm]

me with kasumi over joker

[dry karma]

why didn't the gamebanana link embed what

[noble helm]

i made a mod request, no one took it, i looked at how morty did it for ps3

and went i can do it

femjoker wasnt out atp anyway so i wanted a fem protag mod

[dry karma]

femjoker came out of nowhere

i have no idea why the mod creator is removing romances though? unhardcoded romance entirely removes the necessity to do that

[restive iron]

It was made before unhardcoded

[tough aspen]

theyre not, they just never updated the description

[restive iron]

that too

[dry karma]

i mean they recently added ryuji and said they removed makoto i think

5 months ago

[tough aspen]

"recently"

[dry karma]

unhardcoded has been out for a while

[tough aspen]

https://gamebanana.com/posts/12714557#post_12714557

[dry karma]

huh alright then

[noble helm]

i just wish the text edits and romances were separate mods tbh

[dry karma]

makes it less chunky too

[visual salmon]

Y'know, I've been curious about Akage rn, does she have the story overhaul like Rose & Violet has or no?

Just wondering to know lol

[tough aspen]

no lol

[visual salmon]

dang so it's basically cosmetics with no changes? lol

[noble helm]

yeah, and kasumi as protag wouldve been the same way if zylvos didnt make rose & violet

protag replacement and story overhaul are two giant tasks to take on

[visual salmon]

ahh I see, that's true there

[dry karma]

two very, very different skill sets

I'd say combat mods, model mods, code mods, and story mods are all seperate but you can be skilled at multiple

oh and art

[visual salmon]

very true there 😅

[sacred siren]

@dry karma @noble helm I can move the EVENT folder back into P5REssentials for the next update. Would that work for you both?

[dry karma]

yeah sounds good

[sacred siren]

@dry karma Can you send me your latest Bustup_param.dat so I can make the edit for the bustup I've edited? That way, we'll be able to use the same file

[dry karma]

tomorrow sure. I am currently laying in bed about to go to sleep lol

actually just pull the one from gay joker

[sacred siren]

Alright, I'll check again because I remember using the one from Gay Joker

[sacred siren]

The BUSTUP_PARAM.DAT I have in Rose & Violet does have the entries for the Gay Joker bustups

I have edited bustup b010_252_00.bin (which already exists in the vanilla file but is a placeholder) for Rose & Violet

Left are the Gay Joker bustups, right is mine

Here's the file

[noble helm]

maybe the merging is just omega broken

[echo glen]

basically what everyone else said. They are working on some story changes and some other stuff for the next patch; but these things take time as both Wisteria and Zylvos could tell you.

[visual salmon]

Ahh okay, some story changes are being worked on for Akage, and yeaah that is true that story overhaul does take time there 😅

[dry karma]

ok so I don't need this, did you add it to your mod?

[sacred siren]

Yes, it's the file in my mod

[dry karma]

alright I can proceed then

[dry karma]

sigh i'm still getting the bug

[restive iron]

did the mod update correctly?

[dry karma]

yes

mind testing it on your pc? update r&v and remove bustup_param from my mod's folder

[restive iron]

sure one sec

[dry karma]

it's in misc

[restive iron]

seems to work

[dry karma]

awesome so it's me

well that's all i needed

idk why the bug is happening on my end, but if it works for others that's good

i suspect it's a linux issue

[restive iron]

atlus hates linux

[dry karma]

more like reloaded probably...

[restive iron]

everyone hates linux

[dry karma]

weird that it only happened recently though

i need another linux guinea pig

[restive iron]

takemi if she was a linux developer

[dry karma]

i'm just gonna have the toggle be manual i don't feel like messing around with mod detection

i have no idea if this is correct

readme doesn't explain probing paths

[noble helm]

make sure NoR&V has a folder named "CPK" in it that contains the edits you made

for example p5rpc.shutupsae\LegacyToggle\CPK\EVENT

also you need to add {ModDir} to the start of the path

[dry karma]

ok

so this?

do i need to set crifs v2 as a dependency

[noble helm]

yes

[noble helm]

nop

just set the path as {ModDir}/ReMIX/NoR&V

[dry karma]

ok

[noble helm]

probing path looks for a cpk folder

so if you make the probing path inside the cpk folder it wont work

i forgot the config part of that

[dry karma]

i see i see

lmao dw i got it

[noble helm]

also you could just put the NoR&V folder in the mod root directory

or in an optionalfiles folder

would cut down on the amount of nested folders

[dry karma]

i put it in the same folder config.yaml has to be for organization

[noble helm]

[dry karma]

...not a good idea?

ok

[noble helm]

no it should work fine but generally everyone throws it into the root folder or creates a folder like "optionalmodfiles" in the root folder

[dry karma]

i'l ldo optionalmodfiles for consistency with other mods

aaand i get the same bug with the config option enabled lolol

at least i know it's working... in some sense 💀

i am going to be unable to test from here on so imma need a tester of some kind

or i can maybe set up a virtual machine

[noble helm]

yeah try a vm

[dry karma]

i'll do a vm

[noble helm]

https://tenor.com/view/patrickpushit-bikinibottom-weshouldtakebikinibottomandpushitsomewhereelse-patrick-spongebob-gif-18165095

[dry karma]

what

(i'm trying to publish the mod)

bruh whyy

[noble helm]

so true

[dry karma]

ok guess i'm publishing it on the vm too

why is reloaded suddenly having so many issues on linux

[dry karma]

i forgot how fucking long windows 11 takes to install

[potent marlin]

i can try

[dry karma]

alright i'll tell you when the mod is published and you can test it

[potent marlin]

Just tell me what to do 😼

[cursive folio]

I made a PR to persona essentials to completely remove it from generic merging atm (somehow this was the only thing that has had issues with it)
while I do have an idea of how merging can be implemented, itd be in the same style as the evt fade out table merging, not the automatic persona essentials modding, persona essentials modding would need a lot more work and there are a lot of other annoying things tied to it that I quite frankly have neither the time nor energy to deal with, not the least of which involves all the waiting around for the right people to have the time to check and review the code changes and whatnot (which is a non factor if its something I "own" in its entirety)

(sewer has also expressed at various times that the merging code for persona essentials was never meant to account/be used for "expanded" files that had more entry, hence the tbl merging bug that existed for more than a year)

[noble helm]

yeah that seems like the best option

hopefully the PR gets accepted too so it'll just go back to being overwritten

[dry karma]

https://gamebanana.com/mods/617413
https://github.com/ShrineFox/Persona-5-Mod-Menu/releases/tag/1.9
alright it's up. download mod menu, then when you boot the game up, click "test field". press the phone button, then select call -> event -> enter event id. enter the numbers one by one: 7 0 7 0 9 0. the event will play. check to see if it freezes and if it does send the logs from reloaded.

again test on linux

oh shit wrong id

lol

muscle memory....

oh my god i found the issue

y'all are gonna laugh at me

sorry octa you don't have to do that anymore

actually i won't reveal what it was. it's too embarassing 🥲

[potent marlin]

Oh ok

i was kind of gonna not gonna do it immediately anyway

[mental onyx]

Yay fixes

[dry karma]

just little ones

[dry karma]

oh my god the romance rank 10 for mishima is the same as original rank 10... i think neptuna just doesn't like mishima

i think i'm gonna release mishima and yusuke together

or not?

there's two....

weird

[visual salmon]

Maybe you can make the Rank 10 Mishima into likable there or something 👀

[dry karma]

no i was wrong it just looks like there's two here for some reason

[visual salmon]

Ahh I see

[noble helm]

wauit what was it

can u dm it to me

[crimson raft]

I'm struggling with writing Yusuke's romance. I had a version of rank 9 but I can't remember which hard drive it's on.

[flint egret]

are you helping with the mod?

[crimson raft]

Yeah. At least with Yusuke's confidant.

[patent isle]

What exactly are you struggling with when writing it?

The text editing or the actual writing itself?

[crimson raft]

the actual writing

[dry karma]

i try to make it seem as close to atlus's writing style as possible. i've played eprsona 5 a fucking ton so i pretty much got it nailed at this point. i put myself in the mindset of like "what if this was actually something written by atlus?" and think about what it would look like if i played it

it's a bit difficult bc you have such limited space

so you gotta have very impactful lines

[noble helm]

just wanted to check if theres supposed to be a bustup here

idk if this is a placeholder or my load order being fucked

[dry karma]

supposed to be leeching off r&v's bustup param

hold on lemme test

[noble helm]

yeah i fixed it by just enabling the config option

its probably some random mod replacing bustup params

[dry karma]

ah do you not have r&v enabled

i see

well it'll fuck up r&v's bustups so

[noble helm]

also is there supposed to be no dialogue here

after romancing him

[dry karma]

i'm not sure

i don't remember editing a file that's his post-romance call

i just assumed it'd play the regular one

i guess not

idk what controls that

[noble helm]

since it kinda just plays the phone animation for a few seconds and then goes to the next time block

[dry karma]

yeah i assume neptuna didn't do anything

i can find how to add that

i'm not sure what script file it'd be though

[noble helm]

it was sophia apps

god please we need bustup param merging

[dry karma]

rip

idk how to work around that... i suppose you can turn my config on and just have r&v's bustups be missing

but sophia apps' bustups would be gone too

fuck bro

[noble helm]

i just copied over r&v's bustup params over to your mod

[dry karma]

i see

[noble helm]

sophia has no bustup now but whatever

probably fixable with manual edits though

[dry karma]

well it's the same idea as keeping it in r&v

it works either way

[noble helm]

yeah i just copied it over because i have a few mods that do need to overwrite r&v's text edits

[dry karma]

i see

[noble helm]

so i cant just move the entire mod to the bottom of my load order

at least the game doesnt crash

yet, it'll find a way

[dry karma]

my game crashed as i tried to open to test lmao

sometimes it just shits itself

...in any case i feel kind of honored you're playing my mod lol

[noble helm]

I like this confession scene a lot, it feels really really in character and even helps to contextualize the rest of his SL

Like its implied he sees you as one of the guys (probably Ann too) but its really cute hearing him say it

It reminds me of Junpei's SL a bit just without him rejecting you bcs Chidori (which is something I like a lot but thats a discussion for another day)

[dry karma]

i pretty much got the idea from the fact that zylvos didn't remove any of the "bro"s or "dude"s (despite royal female audio and femjoker doing so) andi was like omg this has so much potential

he even calls her "man" lmao tbf i do that too to girls

but after he confesses he stops (at least when they're alone) and starts calling her by her name more

but anyway thank you i tired my best to match atlus's writing as closely as possible

[noble helm]

yeah im rly glad this was kept

i think royal fem audio added some of them back since i left a comment on there but it bugs me so much when that part of his dialogue gets nuked

im pretty sure even junpei says "dude" and whatnot to kotone

[dry karma]

bigbenclocktower (person who's making a specific audio mod for r&v) said they would try and add some of them back

[noble helm]

[dry karma]

it's just common for those types of guys to call all their frinds that lol

(i'm also gladf the flags are working... no one ever said anything so i was worried LMAO)

[potent marlin]

i call everyone bro and dude and man

[dry karma]

same

i even call my partner dude/bro/man 😭

[potent marlin]

lmao

that's just how it goes!!

its chill vibes

[dry karma]

it's just how i talk

[potent marlin]

yeah bro is like 90% of my vocab

bro, buddy, dude, man, pal

very versatile 🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️

could even delve into "vro" territory

[flint egret]

Same tho

[dry karma]

https://fxtwitter.com/wistiyya/status/1972477491706208649 i nearly exploded seeing the amount of likes on this thank you for the promo wisteria lol

Wisteria ✨ (@wistiyya)

Ryuji romance is really cute and feels super in character 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

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[noble helm]

i got jumpscared by it it was at like 1.2k this morning

and yw!

[crimson raft]

Damn it, if only I could find the version of Yusuke's Rank 9 I had.

[patent isle]

You might just have to write 10 then. You wrote it once before yes?

[thorn adder]

Wow, Twitter is still useful lol

[dry karma]

another person with this issue?

i'm so confused

[sacred siren]

I haven't tested it, but I'm not sure I understand their issue. Do they mean they don't get any dialogues (which means there's an issue with a flag maybe?) or do they say that there's no mention of the romance in future events?

If this is Ryuji, I think the rank 10 is unchanged and the romance confirmation event is separate?

[dry karma]

multiple people have reported this bug but it works for most people

most of them are vague

[sacred siren]

Yeah, it's a bit hard to understand what's happening. It still looks like their issue is around rank9

Do they have the romance mod below Rose & Violet?

If they don't, I suspect my BMD will override yours but the not the EVT (since I don't have one), so the event will be very weird

[tough aspen]

i would assume romance has rv set as dependency in which case rv should always load first anyway

which should cause romance bmd to be higher priority but idk

[dry karma]

they might have the confidant cheat sheet enabled

[sacred siren]

Oh, right

[tough aspen]

yeah thatd do it

[dry karma]

lemme ask them that

[noble helm]

try testing it yourself as well

[tough aspen]

ive been wanting to convert the cheat sheets to merging but theyre very large so ive been wanting to finish that tool i started first

[noble helm]

i would test it but lazy

oh what tool?

[tough aspen]

basically just a small cli thing that automates finding changed messages and procedures and dumps them to flow and msg files

[noble helm]

[tough aspen]

i think its close to done but my ass has not found time to test

[noble helm]

release it without testing it, let users be the guinea pigs

[dry karma]

what if I explode

[dry karma]

yup

[sacred siren]

I just realized that the current version of your mod doesn't have a bustup_param.dat
So, I should probably wait a bit before reverting it to version without the Gay Joker bustups

Otherwise, people will report that the bustups aren't working

[dry karma]

this was to fix the merging issue

it leeches from your mod

there's a config option for people not using rose and violet

as soon as you wanna update i'll update at the same time

or i'll do it before you

[sacred siren]

Okay then, I'll probably update tomorrow

[dry karma]

cool i'll insert the param back in now to get ahead so people don't update yours before mine

[sacred siren]

I wanted to check if the merging was working correctly

[dry karma]

it works fine

[sacred siren]

Well, if you update before me, I'll check again before updating R&V

[dry karma]

pushed

[sacred siren]

I'll update tomorrow then. I'd rather not update before I go to sleep, in case I need to make a hotfix

[dry karma]

yeah

[dry karma]

you can call mishima cute heh

he deserves it

[round cairn]

Rare Mishima love?

[visual salmon]

We love Mishima, he deserves the world~ 💞💞

[dry karma]

ok so i figured out the weird rank 10 thing for mishima:
it looks like the script for the 718_100 has a bit check for the romance flag, which then either sends you to 101 or 102. this was likely to avoid editing the scheduler/chats... in which case, why is mishima the only one that does this? and i checked, and there is a romance check in the scheduler. i'm so confused

and also i have no idea why it would send you to a separate event... just return if the bit flag is off lol

ok nvm looks like the scheduler... is this? why does it return? huh???

ok nvm i was looking at it wrong

void MISHIMA_RANKUP_INVITE_CHAT_hook()
{
    int var67;
    int var68;

    if (BIT_CHK(3746) == 1)
    {
        return;
    }


    if (BIT_CHK(11791) == 1)
    {
        return;
    }

    var67 = CMM_GET_LV(GET_INVITE_WORK(1));
    var68 = -1;

    if ((var67 >= 2) && (var67 <= 4))
    {
        var68 = (639 + var67);
    }
    else if (var67 == 5)
    {
        var68 = 646;
    }
    else if (var67 == 6)
    {

        if (BIT_CHK(3978) == 1)
        {
            var68 = 645;
        }
        else if (BIT_CHK(3976) == 0)
        {
            var68 = 644;
            BIT_ON(3976);
        }

    }
    else if ((var67 >= 7) && (var67 <= 8))
    {
        var68 = (640 + var67);
    }
    else if (var67 == 9)
    {

        if (BIT_CHK(3789) == 1)
        {
            var68 = 1400;
        }
        else
        {
            var68 = 649;
        }

    }


    if (var68 >= 0)
    {
        CALL_CHAT_ARRIVAL(var68);
        BIT_ON(4082);
        BIT_ON(4369);
        SET_COUNT(51, (GET_COUNT(51) + 1));
    }
    else
    {
        return;
    }

}```

3789 is romance flag

ok looks like if bitflag is on it calls chat 1400 but i think i checked that one

yeah 1400 doesn't exist in the modded files

in which case it might be calling the vanilla rank 10 chat

but whyyy??? what is the reason

if you're gonna put ts in the scheduler just make a new chat and skip the weird shenanagins

@tough aspen look at this fuckin shit

we gotta fix this in the new gay joker lolol

[tough aspen]

yeah i was just gonna nuke the dupe platonic event and have it conditionally call the normal one (or the romance one)

[nimble quartz]

hello all! does anyone know if this mod is compatible with "Always Rankup" by oceanstuck?

[tough aspen]

no reason it shouldnt be

they edit completely different files

[potent marlin]

there's your answer LOL

[nimble quartz]

thank you!

[dry karma]

yep. totally different set up you're fine

[flint egret]

making a social link cheat sheet patch would be fun 🤣

im sure the main mod prob still need compat with the other cheat sheets

[tough aspen]

issue is regular cheat sheet doesnt have merging
and its very large

[dry karma]

it's very low priority

[flint egret]

so it needs to be redone with merging

[green comet]

and also not super necessary to begin with imo

[tough aspen]

i aint doin allat manually but its been a bit since i worked on my tool for automating stuff like that

[dry karma]

i'm not sure how i'd get it working with r&v's bind anyway

[noble helm]

works the same

just uses r&v BMDs as a basis instead of vanilla apparently

[dry karma]

1,000 DOWNLOADS!!!

[placid valve]

Ok, I can't for the life of me get this mod to work no matter what I do
It's been like.. 2 hours now..? that I've been trying to get it working but alas, Yaldabaoth hates me and says no funny dude kissing scenes,,,

[dry karma]

lol

any specifics?

[placid valve]

Genuniely gonna start tweaking like Akechi if I have to go through the title screen again

[placid valve]

Like errors?

[dry karma]

you can turn that off with persona essentials

[dry karma]

what's broken

some quick things:

1. put this below r&v
2. make sure r&v's confidant cheat sheet is turned off

[placid valve]

The rank 9 event just does not start, whatsoever. No messages or anything, after Ryuji hits rank 9, it skips to the phone call like normal

[dry karma]

da faq

[placid valve]

Ah so I do need R&V

[dry karma]

no you don't actually

[placid valve]

Oh..!

sob,,,

[dry karma]

wait i'm confused do you mean the rank 9 event doesn't play at all?

[placid valve]

It plays out like it does if the mod was disabled, so how it does in the vanilla game

He hits rank 9, then cuts to phone call

[dry karma]

send me your mod load order

make sure you choose the right option too, there's one that bypasses the romance dialogue entirely

[placid valve]

Like a screenshot or?

[dry karma]

yes

[placid valve]

Right, one moment then

[dry karma]

don't choose "but we're friends!"

[placid valve]

Quite lengthy

[flint egret]

iirc isnt it just 1 or 2 characters implemented so far?

[dry karma]

ryuji

[flint egret]

yea
thats what I thought it was

[dry karma]

it's cat morgana in overworld

incompatible with every story mod available

[placid valve]

I expected that, but.. I've disabled it on an attempt to get it working earlier and the romance scene still didn't play out

[flint egret]

pretty sure it doesnt use merging

[dry karma]

^

[placid valve]

The event table fadeout merging?

[dry karma]

no bmd merging

[placid valve]

Ah

[dry karma]

try turning off kasumi as protag story overhaul

[placid valve]

Alright one moment, I shall try and see if it works for the like 12 time now

[dry karma]

WAIT AHA I CAN'T BELIEVE I MISSED IT

it's 100% she/her joker

though male romance should be overriding it...

[flint egret]

is she/her even needed

[placid valve]

I thought it said it was compatible in the mod page,,

[dry karma]

if they're not using r&v yes

[flint egret]

ahh okay

[dry karma]

it is. theoretically. i haven't tested it

idk why it wouldn't work

[flint egret]

wisteria didnt change any dialogue iirc

[dry karma]

it's either a config option or something below it, but disabling any mods that edit bmd's is a first step

[flint egret]

they prob dont know which ones edit bmds im ngl
I feel like most p5 mod users wouldnt

[dry karma]

you can also try putting male romance at the very bottom fo your load order

[dry karma]

generally anything that edits the story/dialogue

[flint egret]

id try this first

[flint egret]

oh ik but I just feel like they might not lol

[placid valve]

Disabling the overhaul did nothing, I shall try it once more without she/her and with the romance at the bottom of the list

[dry karma]

you can also search in your reloaded-II mod folder:
707_090
and then see which folders it is in

[flint egret]

i have not eaten today oops
its 5 pm 😅

[placid valve]

FINALLY

GOD

ALMOST 3 HOURS WASTED

[dry karma]

what was it?

[flint egret]

bottom of load order prob helped

[placid valve]

Probably she/her cause earlier I disabled both cat mona and the overhaul and it did nothing

[dry karma]

no i mean what did you do that fixed it

[placid valve]

Disabled she/her and threw it to the bottom of my list

[flint egret]

I bet its bottom of load order that fixed it

[placid valve]

above the bustup edits ofc

[dry karma]

it was the bottom of your laod order not she/her joker

[dry karma]

just so i know do this for me please

[placid valve]

Alright, one sec

[dry karma]

maybe i should move shit to bmd merging

[placid valve]

It's uh.. in nothing

No results found

[dry karma]

??

it should at least show for my mod

[flint egret]

might not've searched it right

[dry karma]

yeah try again it's an underscore not a dash

[placid valve]

I copied down the 707_090 and then pasted it into the search bar in the reload 2 mod folder

[placid valve]

Yeah that's where I searched for it, strange

[dry karma]

it might be case sensitive. try 707_090.BMD and 7007_090.bmd

[placid valve]

707_090.BMD worked, 3 files showed up, all from Essentials

Specifically 707_090.BMD, 707_090.BMD.msg, and 707_090.BMD.msg.h

Oh and another weird development

It is in fact she/her pronouns

Disabled the story overhaul but not she/her, and the romance mod didn't work, disabled she/her but not the story overhual, and it did work

[dry karma]

them being in essentials implies it merged with another mod

she/her joker sounds like it uses merging

which overides my changes when it merges

alr this is my sign to switch everything to bmd merging

i know what the problem was lmao

it's E707_090

try that

[placid valve]

The little text blurb in his summary from rank 10 shows up as a placeholder, from what I've seen though it's unfixable (?)

Not that big of a deal though either way

[dry karma]

yeah that's a known bug

[flint egret]

i detect linux lmap

[dry karma]

good to know it's happening to those without r&v tho helps me narrow it down

[dry karma]

yeah i use fedora

[flint egret]

im debating switching to arch bc of winboat

[potent marlin]

arch is good lowkey

[dry karma]

i wanna change ryuji's third awakening sequence if you romance him

there's a line that says "ryuji-senpai, i'm flattered, but..." i specifically wanna replace that

also, ryuji...

is this what you're into?

[tough aspen]

snrk

[placid valve]

Recently finished a playthrough with this, very peak so far, only issue I had was that I kept crashing at the white day date right after the aquarium, during he transition to the restaurant, not too sure if it's cause of this or something else, but it seemed to stop once I disabled the mod

Other than that, Ryuji's romance was very silly and made me kick my feet and giggle at almost every scene

[dry karma]

ohh noo

no clue why that'd be happening

anyway thank you <3

[placid valve]

You're very welcome!! 💕

[tough aspen]

regular gay jonkler bmds for yusuke white day (and i think one other yusk event?) seem to be malformed for some reason, i had to yeet a couple borked-looking messagescript functions in persona editor bc script tools would throw decompile errors
if you just took those and changed the dialogue in persona editor they might have the same bug

[dry karma]

i used script gui

and they worked fine when i called them with mod menu

[tough aspen]

script gui just wraps script compiler though what was ur workflow exactly

[dry karma]

uh... decompile edit recompile?

[tough aspen]

using gay jonkler bmd as a base, yeah?

[dry karma]

yes

here are the two white day bmds if you wanna look

[tough aspen]

after shower probably

[dry karma]

ok

ig for now i can try taking the original bmds and pasting everything from these if it's like a corrupted file issue

[tough aspen]

wait these are ryuji bm--oh wait thats what yall were fucking talking about in the first place

no, ryujis are fine its specifically yusuke bmds that were fucked up

[green comet]

can i ask what is available in the released mod as it is rn?

[dry karma]

ryuji romance

[green comet]

like fully?

[dry karma]

yep

[green comet]

ok

i'll try that out then for this run

[dry karma]

I'm about halfway done with Mishima. I'm just procrastinating lol

[green comet]

next full run though i'll probably wait for another one

like yusuke

[dry karma]

enjoy

[green comet]

btw is there scenes like hawaii, christmas, etc?

[dry karma]

yes

[green comet]

kino

[green comet]

guh i don't have a save from before rank 9

time to mod menu

actually it may be more practical just to restart the run

i'm not even to july yet

i hope i didn't do any persona management with mod menu on this run

[dry karma]

i am so confuzzled why this bug is happening https://discord.com/channels/746211612981198989/1430617412700602448

i checked the aquarium white day bf file and it doesn't even control calling the next event

so i have no clue where it is controlled

evt file isn't borked because it calls fine in mod menu

i think

lemme check

[dry karma]

nvm... borked

oh god

the fuck happened here

lemme see if gay joker's looks like this

...it does

what in the world

sanity check i'm gonna replace the evt with gay joker's not even open it with evtui to fix the byte mismatch

but that is later i leave for now

[still burrow]

Which event ID is this?

It is very possible that the thing making it read weirdly on Linux vs. Windows needs to be cleaned up differently, and that EVTUI is actually borking it up in a different way by "cleaning" it 😅

That doesn't seem like it would cause issues with Msg_ in particular, though....

Hmmm, definitely something is funky....

"Hm I wonder what the Gay Joker version looks li--OH GOD--"

(So... clearly something is either wrong with this EVT, or with my parser. I'll look into whether it's something obvious with the latter.)

[dry karma]

i'll test the evnt without any evtui fixing

yep works fine with straight gay joker evt

it's evtui borking it

[still burrow]

Makes sense. I shall debug 🫡

[dry karma]

awesome

id is 754_113 if you didn't figure it out

this is my sign to finish mishima so i can push an update with the un-broken evt

[still burrow]

Oh god, what even HAPPENED to the offsets in these files from Gay Joker 😵‍💫

Welp, if the game can handle this, it will be teaching me something new about how EVTs are parsed, because my stuff works for literally all vanilla EVTs 🥹

An odd number in a dataSize field................. I'm dying........... What is even happening over in EvtTool......

[still burrow]

OK, the fix is in... the Gay Joker EVTs should be cleaned properly rather than borked, buuut unfortunately the ones that you already "cleaned" for this mod may be unsalvageable (i.e., need to be copied over from Gay Joker again) 🥲

Sorry about that 😭 Hope you didn't change much more of this one outside of the script....

[dry karma]

i only changed one dialogue

thing

i added a conditional to one of the dialogues

i can easily add it again

so what failed even?

oh wait so i can't edit it with evtui you said?

ok yeah the evt breaks when i put it in evtui

rip. i'll just change the dialogue in the bmd

[still burrow]

You can, but the files for this mod got fully borked by the issue, so you'll want to start again from the Gay Joker version.

[dry karma]

wait what everything got fucked???

[still burrow]

I would recommend just re-copying them over and editing it again -- it should save fine now.

Only files with this specific issue, which isn't all of them.

[dry karma]

oh no i don't remember which files i edited...

[still burrow]

I can try to see which ones seem to have it 🤔

[dry karma]

i gave most of the broken files to zylvos before you added the fix to do with evttool

so i think i only edited like.. one or two

this one and another. i think the royal ending christmas event?

i'll check that one

no one's complained about the christmas event so i'm assuming it wasn't broken to begin with

[still burrow]

Which event ID?

[dry karma]

751_105

[still burrow]

That one looks fine!

[dry karma]

good

wait i'm dumb evtui literally lists every file you've opened with it

oh my god this is why that one mishima event was broken

some of these might be mishima

@tough aspen the fix for the non-zero bytes breaks the evt's. you're gonna have to reverse any work you did with gay joker's evt's...

i don't understand why it was working fine before...

oh wait ithink it might've never worked and i just never checked

[still burrow]

Affected files (in Gay Joker -- not sure which of these were actually affected when being moved into this mod):

• E707_090
• E748_011
• E748_050
• E749_010
• E749_012
• E754_103
• E754_113
• E754_123

[dry karma]

thanks ajda

[still burrow]

No prob. Sorry about that 🥲

[dry karma]

okay wait... i did all that work with fixing ryuji's rotating animation, and the events played fine with mod menu

oh wait nvm that's

707_101

idk why i was thinking 707_090

[still burrow]

Phew....

I mean, if you did a bunch of stuff like that, you could do some shenanigans to copy them over to the Gay Joker EVTs before copying those back over to your mod.

Like, you can copy commands across files that are open at the same time in the editor.

Buuut hopefully you also don't have to do that for now.

[still burrow]

Anyway, mostly just in-the-weeds binary formatting stuff, but basically I should have initially respected positional values given in the weirdly-formatted EVTs instead of overwriting them right away (unlike e.g. reserve fields, where it's fine to just overwrite). Some of the Msg_s in particular had weird unexpected data sizes -- like, 167 instead of 160~~, which is bonkerballs for binary formatting because everything is basically always divisible by 4, if not by 16~~.
TL;DR: slightly thoughtless handling of fixing positional fields in particular. Whoopsie....

[dry karma]

lolol dw it happens. expected from a wip. this is why we catch things like this early

[still burrow]

True 🥹

[dry karma]

also 754_113 was edited by zylvos with evttool, so it's different from gay joker. same with 707_090

so you can check for differences there

here they are without being opened with evtui

random aside, i was checking properites and uh... yeha that definitely makes sense!

[still burrow]

Those both look fine. Actually, E707_090.EVT in the release version of the mod I have locally also looks fine.

So I assume you didn't end up saving that one with EVTUI 🤷

[dry karma]

i have so much going on my task bar actually crashed

[dry karma]

probably not

[dry karma]

a hardlock 😭

[potent marlin]

oof

[green comet]

guh

[echo glen]

Makoto being a default option doesn’t surprise me somehow but that’s a shame

[dry karma]

they probably just chose someone random as a fallback

[nimble quartz]

wait so is white day for this mod currently bugged?

[dry karma]

it's fixed i just need to push the update...

wanted to wait until I was done with Mishima

but I'm procrastinating way too hard

somehow I thought this bug would motivate me more to do it

[green comet]

simply be like me and not sleep until the mod is done

btw how close is mishima to completion?

[echo glen]

Misaka Misaka looks at Mishima in the snow with great courage and gives Raven a big “Ganbate!” while flipping a coin slyly just out of frame.

[dry karma]

I think I finished his Hawaii scene

oh and the shujin festival

so I need to do christmas vanilla, christmas royal, valentines vanilla, valentines royal, and white day

maybe I'll lock in and do it all tonight

[green comet]

fire

that means i'll have two choices for this run

[green comet]

though i'll probably just pick ryuji since i'm almost to the end of his link anyways

[faint jasper]

Question for plans for the future Akechi route! !Spoilers! for Gay Joker mod & third term: || I was wondering, do you have plans to have a similar route to Gay Joker where romance begins in third semester & is ambiguous on Akechi's feelings for mc?||

[dry karma]

i'm gonna be making my own

you confess to him rank 8, he says he'll think about it, then he dies before he can give you an answer (lol)

then he calls you the first day of free time in the third semesyer and asks to meet up

you talk in the jazz club and he agrees to date you (because he knows he's not real and at leasts wants to indulge kasumi a little bit)

2/2 will have some unique dialogue

[faint jasper]

That sounds very interesting!

I guess you confess and then ||pew pew||? 😭

[dry karma]

well you confess to him at the end of rank 8

so yes, before that

since you can only do his rank 7/8 once you've started sae's palace

[faint jasper]

Ah thats true!

I feel its going to be angsty, Im super pumped!

[dry karma]

i love any angst involving akechi

the dates will be the only fluff

i will be using the dates from gay joker though, lol

[faint jasper]

Balanced as all things should be. Lol

[dry karma]

oh i should mention

i'm giving him a christmas date, which i'm p sure gay joker did not do

[faint jasper]

oh! I actually didnt notice for gay joker, I just watched a video.

[dry karma]

i'm making the akechi romance a seperate mod too for regular jonkler

[faint jasper]

Thank you for serving us with Akechi x kasumi 🙏 I seriously commend you because I was thinking about their potential relationship and I felt it would be hard to work out

[dry karma]

i imagine i won't change much between the two except for the protagonist's dialogue

akechi is protag-sexual

[dry karma]

i noticed zylvos added a bit more to make akechi's crush more obvious... lol

zylvos secretly a shuake shipper 🤫

also i like their dynamic a lot in the mod

[faint jasper]

I noticed!! !Spoilers! || At the ship scene the other Akechi was all like "that girl youre so fond of"|| I gasped. Ugh I ship them so hard. Romance doomed to fail is the best.

[dry karma]

i saw that and nearly geeked out too

[faint jasper]

It was pretty smooth

[green comet]

@dry karma got this bug

[tough aspen]

seems like its trying to call a phone chat that doesnt exist

[dry karma]

hrm

yeah I just yoinked gay joker's stuff... I'll take a look

somehow the scheduler could be calling a chat for a future romance i.e Mishima and yusuke because I have those in there... I'm not sure why it would though

[green comet]

yeah idk

when it's off its just ryuji inviting me to hang out

and he's romanced rank 9 at this point too if that means anything for the bug

[dry karma]

sounds like the romance chat is bugged

just trigger his rank 10 by going up to him in person for now

[green comet]

doing that now

[visual salmon]

We looove Ramem ahahaha

[dry karma]

yummy

(I'll fix it lol)

[visual salmon]

Yuup lol

[stable field]

and if you get the true ending with rank 10 akechi then he stays alive ,cause of the end credit scene

[dry karma]

[green comet]

shinji p3p style

[stable field]

i hope we get an school event in p6 where we vivist shujin just like in p4 visit p3 or p3p visit p4

[fluid fog]

I did an edit of an anime called kare kano for them

[visual salmon]

Off-Topic, but who's the guy on your discord pfp? 👀

[fluid fog]

junpei niina from tmgs3

it's an otome game

[dry karma]

omg!

[visual salmon]

Ohh tyty~

[patent isle]

The Akechi x Kasumi ship is really funny when you consider the fact that Akechi has like the biggest beef with a girl who is two years younger than him and constantly in a perpetual state of struggle bussing because her ||parents died not to long ago||, and her hopes and dreams of being a gymnast were crushed, and on top of that she’s in classes that are way beyond her level against her will. But then she’s also slaying despite her circumstances and always looking girlypop. Slowly becoming more Barbie core instead of miserable. Living embodiment of “girls can do anything boys can do but in high heels.”

[faint jasper]

valid crash out fr

[green comet]

i noticed on hawaii the narration parts seem to play very quickly

also what a nice gift lol

[dry karma]

yeah sorry idk hoe to fix this just yet 😭

[dry karma]

wdym by that?

[green comet]

Like the narration parts will just play quickly and move on

Almost like they're being skipped

[dry karma]

weird

[still burrow]

Are they missing the [w] to wait until player input...?

[dry karma]

very well could be lmao

I need to edit the Hawaii event anyway I'll look when I get home

[thorn adder]

It’s likely a load sort error, I got one as Reserve from Gay Joker, then the actual item when I played it again when the mod was sorted differently

[green comet]

wtf

oh it was just a ui think for the yearbook

also wtf haru wore the standard uniform??

[crimson glen]

What am I looking at?

[green comet]

the graphic appearing

i just tabbed off the game when it was showing up

i should fix this neck clipping

[dry karma]

you're in the wrong thread lol

[green comet]

Rip

Though I was still in the other one

[thorn adder]

Ryuji can’t catch a break, corrupted graphics on his head

[cold current]

Looks like a fuckin mugshot

[green comet]

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-james-morgan-mcgill-slippin-jimmy-bob-odenkirk-mugshot-gif-18613260

[nimble quartz]

lowkey ryuji looks really attractive with his hair down

like wow

[faint jasper]

Is this a mod? 👀

[nimble quartz]

the first one is

the last two are just fan edits

[nimble quartz]

the version on the left looks so good 😩

lowkey i wonder if thats possible

[faint jasper]

may I have the link?

[visual salmon]

I didn't know Ryuji uses eyeliner mascara type of thing lol

[stable field]

i must say i like anns hair in this shot

[nimble quartz]

to the art or the mod? :o

[faint jasper]

for whichever mod?

[nimble quartz]

https://gamebanana.com/mods/421322

[faint jasper]

thank you so much!

[cold current]

As always, longer hair is more attractive. Take away the piercings on the right picture, Ryuji would look sliiiiick

[empty mason]

only denji is available now right? not this longer hair version.

[storm hemlock]

Hey, I found this mod on GameBanana, and I wanted to tell you guys that I'm cheering you on! I'm so excited to be able to date the guys as Kasumi, and I'm so excited to see where you go with this mod!

[dry karma]

aww thank you!

[mystic moon]

are we getting an akechi romance?

or... something like that

[dry karma]

yes

[echo glen]

I have yet to hear Raven actually say Nevermore about anything unless it’s ridiculous. And even then they occasionally say maybe.

Their plans for Akechi are incredible! You’re in for a treat

[dry karma]

i have a hard time saying no

[mystic moon]

cool beans! ill be here lurking LMAO

[nimble quartz]

||is it possible for ryuji to reject you during his rank 9 social link 😭 i hope i didn't mess it up||

[green comet]

is there hearts instead of stars in his confidant profile?

because if there is then you're ok

[dry karma]

if you're talking about him delaying his response, you're fine the flag is triggered

I tried to make that clear by making him say "I'm not rejecting you, by the way."

[green comet]

i thought it was pretty clear

[faint jasper]

|| Ryuji almost fumbling Kasumi is such a canon event||

[green comet]

doing the school festival with this mod is kinda jarring

the audience speak in english but I play in japanese

oh and ryuji's bustup reverted back lol

[tough aspen]

im assuming the mod doesnt have jp voice support, and crowd sounds are split by voice language

[green comet]

imagine so yeah

[dry karma]

that's the blushing bustups

[green comet]

oh wait i didn't notice before since i finished ryuji's confidant in the summer

[fluid fog]

I was actually really nervous of showing off these pieces, but I'm really proud of them and this mod alongside the Rose and Violet one inspired them, so I wanted to share them as appreciation for both devs :)) they also became a school assignment, so that ended up being a plus

tw blood, n a gun, and big big spoilers,,

[dry karma]

OMG

they're so cute

[dry karma]

lots of akechi lovers

[green comet]

I could go either way

But Akechi is also the GOAT

[dry karma]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-truth-nuke-walter-white-true-breaking-bad-truth-nuke-breaking-bad-true-gif-2370094217877194192

[deep epoch]

akechi dynamic with protag just goes so hard

[faint jasper]

Real, like Shuake (?) is so good

[dry karma]

crow tag is back!

[faint jasper]

How did you get it back!?

[dry karma]

idk it just appeared

[faint jasper]

not for me 🫠

Anyways, iirc there was a interview with Kabayashi that talked about how Akechi's dynamic with protag and Kasumi was like...Almost like a love triangle vibe

[tough aspen]

i thought it was an art book thing

[faint jasper]

You probably are right, I forget where I heard it from exactly

[dry karma]

yeah I love that for them lol

(polycule shuakesumi 🤫)

[patent isle]

I love me an enemies to lovers what can I say. I’m a simple person.

[nimble quartz]

YOU GET IT

e2l my beloved

[fervent ferry]

I knew it'll definitely get tragic love story but I'm here for Akechi romance for a long time

[dry karma]

heheh

[green comet]

got my favorite christmas eve gift

unused

[dry karma]

yeah i still got no idea what's happening there lmao

well, yes i do actually. for some reason the pak emulation isn't working

[tough aspen]

pak emulation?

[dry karma]

it has something to do with the r&v weapons and equipment patch being a config

yeah

r&v edits the same bmd inside the pak, but it's a config so it takes priority

thus you recieve RESERVE as a gift lol

i have no idea why the confidant blurbs don't work though. that's just in the default femulator folder for r&v

and clearly it is not working for the chat titles either because the chats are bugged

[tough aspen]

oh so its a description thing?

[dry karma]

no

it's inside

the pak

datamsg

[tough aspen]

descriptions are in datmsg.pak

[dry karma]

the chat titles aren't working, which is a ctd inside a bin

yes

i have that

but it's not showing up

[tough aspen]

im confused

[dry karma]

in game

it is

not working

blurbs do not show up and chats are bugged, which i assume is because the chat titles inside cmptable.bin are also not working

[tough aspen]

i mean im confused whats not working

[dry karma]

same!

i don't know either!

i have the dummy file

s

[tough aspen]

i mean im confused what the behavior even is

[tough aspen]

you dont need dummy files for paks

[dry karma]

the blurbs are showing the placeholders from unhardcoded romance

i was told i did

[tough aspen]

by whom??

[dry karma]

...you??

[tough aspen]

i. definitely would not say that

[dry karma]

when i was fucking around with bf emulation. you told me my pak emulation setup was broken because there was no dummy files

also gay joker has dummy files

[tough aspen]

???????????????????

are you sure i wasnt talking about dummy files for some other filetype

[dry karma]

you edited the message and i neveer saw it 💀

i remember you said "pak awb and spd do"

andi just never saw the edited message i guess

if this is what's breaking it, why does gay joker's work?

[tough aspen]

either you misremembered and i edited for some other reason or i just straight up typod somehow

because i have been here since before there was pak emulation, i would never get that wrong

[dry karma]

in any case, bye bye

also i have seen people using dummy files for spd too

this is so inconsistent

no more dummy files let's find out. if my fucking p5r doesn't kill itself again

i'm pretty sure kap has dummy spd files

[tough aspen]

you need dummies for files in paks but you dont need dummies for the paks themselves in persona essentials

[dry karma]

how do you make dummies inside a binary file? lmao

[tough aspen]

why would you be trying to do that in the first place??

[dry karma]

you just said

"you need dummies for files in paks"

[tough aspen]

i mean if you have a bf or something inside a pak lmfao

[dry karma]

what are you saying

what do you mean dummies inside paks

do i have to bust out the fucking pak editor??

at this point i don't even want to use emulation

[tough aspen]

https://sewer56.dev/p5rpc.modloader/usage/#example-bf-in-archive

[dry karma]

oh double layered emulation

ok... i suppose

but neither gay joker nor r&v did this. they just put the binary bmd in there

[tough aspen]

like, my brain processed this sentence as you made a folder in pak emulator for a file that was raw binary data with the bin extension, as opposed to a pak with the bin extension
which doesnt really make sense to do so i was confused what the hell you were talking about

[dry karma]

what

i read your message as "you need to decompile the pak and put an empty file in the pak and recompile"

do you want to see the mod?

it is a folder with the pak/bin extension. with raw binary bmds inside

this is the excact same setup as gay joker

[tough aspen]

so basically youre not using bmd merging for this file

[dry karma]

correct

no emulatorception

and this doesn't work

because the blurbs are not showing up

[tough aspen]

if im understanding right, base rv also edits this file and its overwriting your changes against priority?

[dry karma]

er no

unhardcoded romance is

cause i have told people to do r&v -> unhardcoded -> male romance

[tough aspen]

are this and unhardcoded romance the only mods messing with it?

[dry karma]

r&v and unhardcoded

[tough aspen]

rv doesnt use merging for it?

[dry karma]

nope

[tough aspen]

you said something about weapon addon, whats up with that

[dry karma]

weapons and equipment edits a file gay joker does, the item bmd

r&v changes joker's glasses to kasumi's ribbon

no merging

with the bmd i mean. it uses pak emulation

but there's no real way for me to overwrite this, since weapons and equipment is a config option, which takes priority no matter what

same reason i have to cosntantly remind people to turn off r&v's confidant cheat sheet

[tough aspen]

by the item bmd, i assume you mean datItemHelp in datmsg.pak?

[dry karma]

datitemhelp yes

and dataccessoryhelp

[dry karma]

well there we have it

[green comet]

Get to work

[deep epoch]

so I have a question, the toggle for “Not using R&V” in the mod on Reloaded II, does that mean clicking it just takes out any specific instances that mention R&V’s changes? just curious!

[dry karma]

that shouldn't be there anymore

update your mod

it was there before bustup param merging came out. r&v added bustups and needed the bustup param file so zylvos made a merged version. that was there for people who didn't use r&v so only the gay joker bustups registered

now bustup param merging exists so it's fine

[deep epoch]

makes sense, thank you for answering!

[nimble quartz]

oooooh when's mishima's route coming out?

[dry karma]

uhh idk

some point

[green comet]

tomorrow

also this worked

also I get the impression that this shouldn't play if you've romanced someone

wth why is she here

oh my morgana mod is messing with that

wtf

if i had to guess, my underground mall edits are messing with this

that's annoying

man the game really doesn't want me to make this mod

[dry karma]

Makoto is the fallback if something goes wrong