P5X Model Exporting

[restive basalt]

i can't find his body

but as i said, i don't think they changed anything for kiuchi

[torn kindle]

sorry i should've clarified his palace😭

[restive basalt]

ahhh

idk how to look for those, you'd have to give me names

[torn kindle]

it's fine tho dw

[restive basalt]

i have TW dumped already, so i can just look up a name in texture2d

said word means 'energy'

oh, I found the ||groomer rapist woman|| from chapter 4

hm....? i'm finding a lot of props and shadows both belonging to palace(s) with the two letters 'sb' in the title

oh shit, I just found Akashi's treasure

NO FUCKING WAY I FOUND HIS IRL TREASURE I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOREVER FOR THIS

he's so handsome 🥹 ......
(i cropped the texture since the irl and metaverse treasure share a texture)

it could be an alphabetical order thing, but i'm finding a lot if dam objects atm
doors, devices

[zinc dirge]

You have every texture? I'm still looking for Kotomo's non dark texture for her mask

[spiral pendant]

so P5X did this too. I wonder if it really was a conscious design decision then, or if they just did it because Atlus did lol

[zinc dirge]

What is it?

[restive basalt]

look at the shades of the two hair textures
the twins had different hair colors from one another

[spiral pendant]

these are both for Sumi, it's just her hair color changes between her thief outfits and her non-thief outfits

[restive basalt]

i can't find any of her mask textures for some reason

[spiral pendant]

same thing happened in P5 too but I never knew if it was an actual intentional design choice or not

[zinc dirge]

Bruh this texture is gonna forever be hidden

[zinc dirge]

What do you have for Matcaps

[restive basalt]

why don't you just make one? take her dark color one and lighten it

[zinc dirge]

Ooo true

[restive basalt]

color match it to a screenshot of it

[zinc dirge]

I didn't think of that

[restive basalt]

the dark color textures are literally just dark versions of the diffuse with the only change being how dark it is

[torn kindle]

p sure they use her dark color one ingame

[restive basalt]

interesting

[zinc dirge]

Wait your right

[restive basalt]

gotta love inconsistency

[zinc dirge]

Why didn't I notice this lol

[restive basalt]

smh failure as a tomoko fan /j

[zinc dirge]

I shall retire

[random hornet]

i dont think mask textures have bright/dark textures, at least jokers doesnt either

altho jokers uses the same weird black/white normal map faces do

[spiral pendant]

Sumire's does

[zinc dirge]

Some do

[random hornet]

ic

[spiral pendant]

so AssetStudio is just crashing now anytime I try to right click and Show Original File to find the bundles

very cool

[torn kindle]

i thought i was nearly done and then i realised there was another digit

[restive basalt]

humor me this, aaron (if you don't mind)
do you think you can investigate 'sb_'? I'm finding a lot of stuff related to the dam, so I wonder if these go to the dam

as a whole

[random hornet]

yeah all the maps for the dam are prefixed sb_

[restive basalt]

well, i guess we know one more thing

but it looks like what i'm finding are only pieces, not the whole

i copied all the files called scene_boss_pianshan (||Katayama||) and didn't get a complete field, but a bunch of misc meshes

[random hornet]

it would seem the palace prefixes are bqg_ for the baseball stadium, ysc_ for the studio, sb_ for the dam, and yx_ for the ||anthill||

[restive basalt]

sb_ is jointly the ||dam and control center||, i see
Because I found a model shown later when you secure the infiltration route in ||Akashi's portion|| of the palace, the ||control center||

hmmm...what about tzb_

ld_ appears to be for Kamoshida's castle

[random hornet]

seems to be for "Trials from the Sea of Souls"

[restive basalt]

yeah, looks like it, now that I look at the models again

[random hornet]

i.e tzb_HeartOcean_battle is "Sea of Souls Boss Scene"

[restive basalt]

we should document this stuff in a doc or something

[random hornet]

ce_ seems to be for test levels, like ce_levelbattlemechanics01

[restive basalt]

I found the ||anthill groomer's|| throne lol

at least, i think it's a throne

i just want to wipe that scene from my memory from how grossed out i got

[random hornet]

yxkj is for the metro of desire

[restive basalt]

aaron do you have a gmail I could put into for the doc regarding access
I want people to be able to view it, but not everyone be able to edit it willy nilly
Same with you, @torn kindle

oh, cool, some tartarus stuff
container called tartaros tho

mp_ looks like those room displays in my palace
over the mp likely means my palace

[restive basalt]

correction, i think it's for all crossfates collab palace models
I also saw a model for a door that looks like one we see in futaba's palace

yeah
there's one asset called ld_p5r_yjs_pohuai_01 that's likely for ||Maruki's|| palace, as there's only one p5r collab, with the rest being regular p5

looks like this is for SoS
well, outside the mode when displaying score

[restive basalt]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uaQDywri0UVjHVmOj7Bfp0qezHwRUO1RGgnS0MaaWLo/edit?usp=sharing

[random hornet]

i did figure out how to see all the bundles a bundle depends on

[restive basalt]

Oooo

Do you think this could be used for maps?

I noticed that a commonality right there is that all of the bundles are named shared

Like shared assets?

[random hornet]

yeah i looked into some of the bundles mentioned and like

oh it also makes finding textures that are in different bundles easier

heres the dump from CN

i hate the shared bundles but this might make them a little easier

[random hornet]

for some reason all of wonder's default uniform textures are in shared bundles

well i guess its because its one texture set for his entire default uniform

[restive basalt]

I assume efx is for effects

Hmmm
So if we have one piece (model) for a room, we could theoretically find out where the other pieces are?

[random hornet]

potentially

[restive basalt]

🤔

I know earlier I saw the big chain and the 3 links you have to gather

Just a thought, since those are notable rooms

[spiral pendant]

what is this supposed to be?

[random hornet]

its bundles and a list of their dependencies

i.e if you have a thief part bundle and cant find their textures, its gonna be listed here under that bundle

[spiral pendant]

huh

I just tried that with one of Ann's and only found the head textures

[spiral pendant]

the rest were just stuff like this ramp texture and matcaps

[random hornet]

hm

so none of these had anything?

specifically 1c3 oops

i forgot that closer and howler also end in er

[spiral pendant]

I haven't checked those, I looked under part__uniform65e96565

[random hornet]

thats because the textures are in that bundle

they're not in a dependency

but yeah things that are shared like a characters face texture are usually in shared bundles

also without checking each bundle i check how many times its in the file, like i can guess this is the face texture because its only shared between the uniform and thief outfit

[spiral pendant]

yeah, I was looking for a shadow map though. Am I just missing it somewhere?

[random hornet]

shadow map for what

the body?

or the face

[spiral pendant]

body

[random hornet]

isnt the shadow map the red channel of the panther_uniform_body_pk texture

wait no

its the blue channel

red channel seems to be like specular. values above 127 make it shiny

but i dont see a dedicated shadow map texture, even when dumping the resources in 3dmigoto

[spiral pendant]

Hm

The other body textures I've seen usually have a separate shadow map texture

[random hornet]

nvm

but yeah i dont see a shadow tex here

i know that their materials support omitting textures and replace them with a static color

[spiral pendant]

💀

[random hornet]

oh wait that ps-t6 is in the same slot as shadow maps on other chars

so it just uses a white pixel for the shadow map

[random hornet]

like tomoko uniform has a texture there

[random hornet]

i think unity generates the texture at runtime in that case

[spiral pendant]

I figured the blue channel of that was supposed to be some kind of occlusion map or something

[random hornet]

idk it seems to behave kinda like a shadow map, it doesnt quite work like the real shadow map does tho, it just seems to darken the output
here's a comparison of blue set to 0 vs 255 on the entire body pk texture

[spiral pendant]

I just assumed because from my experience, that's what those kind of textures usually end up being. metallic, roughness, and occlusion

[random hornet]

ur probably right

red does seem to be metallic

but green does nothing in their shaders

[spiral pendant]

huh, very weird

[random hornet]

oh green does have an effect on metallic materials

and is roughness

[spiral pendant]

ayy

[random hornet]

but inverted?

like 255 is perfectly reflective

[spiral pendant]

they have to be unique I guess lol

[restive basalt]

.

Morty and Dwine already figured this out 😭

[spiral pendant]

is the mask just considered like a separate thing or something?

not seeing that here either

[random hornet]

wdym

the thief mask is a seperate model if thats what you mean

[spiral pendant]

so it won't be in that list?

[random hornet]

if a bundles missing from the list that means it has 0 dependencies

i filtered out the ones with 0 dependencies

[spiral pendant]

oh I get what this is supposed to be now

it's just showing the shared ones

[spiral pendant]

this is the first time I've seen an Avatar thing pop up here

[random hornet]

i understand assetmap i just dont know what hashing algorithm its using 😭

like asset map says 0x3754f0d0 is in role_156cc7bb.bundle. It should be the hash of makoto_thief.prefab im assuming

[spiral pendant]

so what do I do with this then?

[random hornet]

do with what

[spiral pendant]

.

[random hornet]

oh im not sure

ignore it?

there should still be a .prefab

[spiral pendant]

not one for the mask here

idk if it's a part of something else or not

I assume not though

[restive basalt]

Oh i saw that with Leo, too!

I believe i just added it to the importer area amd it added it just fine

[random hornet]

oh its their own hashing algorithm, but it seems very simple

[random hornet]

did you check role_4710a6de.bundle

that has bs_noir_mianju.prefab according to the assetmap

yes for some reason the mask has its own animator

[spiral pendant]

yeah Ann's did too

I don't get why either lol

[random hornet]

im gonna write a python script to automate the bundle and dependency finding, my current work is in lua but i doubt people just have lua interpreters installed

[spiral pendant]

erm

wtf lol

[random hornet]

the fuck

[restive basalt]

Wat

[restive basalt]

Is it just gonna be something for you to use, or something we all use so we don't bother you to death asking what goes to what? 😆 /j

[random hornet]

thats the plan, to release it

[spiral pendant]

it'd be nice since I seem to keep falling into trying to find things that don't actually exist lol

[restive basalt]

I understood what you wrote with 'bundle and dependency finding', but the 'and' confuses me. It automates just finding bundle? Just finding dependencies? Or Both at the same time?

[random hornet]

both

[restive basalt]

Me asking you for the billionth time what animator goes to what

although tbf the swimsuit queen wasn't very clear when i went to check it out, considering motoha has its own

[random hornet]

the outfits dont get their own animators usually

while swimsuit motoha is a seperate unit with her own anims

[spiral pendant]

this just makes me wonder if the green and blue on this texture is even used

[restive basalt]

Wait that makes me wonder then

I think i remember for all the swimsuit models I couldn't attach the face

There was a thief head and uniform head but I think i tried both? Or just uniform

It'd be useful to know for alt units in the future

[random hornet]

queen/soy/wind swimsuit uses the same as their uniform face
closer/tomoko swimsuit uses a unique face model

the summer unit thief models for some reason are made as if the base models dont exist

they dont use almost anything from them

[spiral pendant]

I think I just kept the uniform face for Riko's

[restive basalt]

Queen, soy, and wind make sense
It was only recently that soy and wind's swimsuit versions got released as a skin in the shop
Since it's not an alt unit, it makes sense it'd just be the regular face

I was unsure of queen tho, for sure

[spiral pendant]

hers is just a skin too, isn't it?

[restive basalt]

Yes

I guess skin = uniform face
Alt unit = unique face

Although i do think i remember trying to use queen's uniform face for the swimsuit model

But that gave me an error

[random hornet]

🤔

[restive basalt]

Why is summer awilda behind regular closer

[random hornet]

just put closer model over closer summer, it seems to work perfectly. most swaps dont work at all, but given its the same character i guess it works fine

[restive basalt]

Ahh

[random hornet]

which makes me wonder even more why they dont share the face

[restive basalt]

In blender, you could literally put the thief or uniform face on almost any model since it's the same character

So yeah, makes no sense

[spiral pendant]

that's what I did with Riko xd

[restive basalt]

Akashi's hair is funny tho because you can't swap his shadow and irl hair 😂
If you swapped his shadow's hair with his actual hair, it'll stick out

And with Riko, she has her own metaverse hair model as well

So it works with her mask and all

[spiral pendant]

I need another sanity check on if Haru's hat has a darkcolor texture lol

[random hornet]

i dont see one

[spiral pendant]

alright, ty lol

okay I apparently grabbed the wrong body mesh for Ann's thief outfit, anyone happen to know what panther_thief_adv_body is then?

[random hornet]

i saw that i have no idea

the mesh is in the same bundle as the actual one though

[spiral pendant]

hm

I somehow ended up with the prefab for that one but not her correct one

[random hornet]

wait no

part_s_er_thief1c3e4b93.bundle ?

[spiral pendant]

yeah I see it in that one

and that's in the folder of bundles I fed through assetripper

dafuq

[random hornet]

dang it doesnt have materials

[spiral pendant]

idek what that could be lol, it doesn't look any outfit of hers I've seen

[restive basalt]

Y'all just run all of those bundles through assetripper?

https://tenor.com/view/aoba-huh-what-confused-anime-gif-17250990

[spiral pendant]

maybe it's another random beta leftover or something lol

[spiral pendant]

all of the ones for the characters I'm trying to export, yeah

[random hornet]

the script is coming together

[restive basalt]

That's actually smart
Idk if i could do that solely because I value organization with something like this

[spiral pendant]

I just copy all their relevant bundles to a separate folder and run them all through assetripper at the same time

[restive basalt]

Usually i make a character folder and if they have more than one model, then a folder for each. Inside a folder i make 2 subfolders: out and build
Out has the assetripper dump (output) and build has the build made by unity

Inside the main folder is the character bundles

[spiral pendant]

this is all I see in that one

[random hornet]

yeah it has meshexport for the body

wait but no mesh ._.

[spiral pendant]

yeah, the mesh is in part_er_thief1c3e4b93.bundle

[random hornet]

oh wait i see

they arent linked as dependencies

[spiral pendant]

okay I see the correct body prefab now

I guess I needed to have both of them?

[random hornet]

yeah

the prefab is in part_s_er_thief1c3e4b93.bundle but the mesh is in part_er_thief1c3e4b93.bundle

[spiral pendant]

weird

[random hornet]

yeah the actor info specifically gives an assetname for the mesh so ig they dont have to be in the same bundle at all

[restive basalt]

Well, in the past the hair, face, and body were separate
Now i'm seeing more instances of it being everything in one or just 2 instead (this is excluding the role bundle)

It looks like nowadays they're throwing the hair into the face bundle as well tho

So instead its hair and face bundle + body bundle + rig bundle

But, in some cases (like Blitz), everything (mesh wise) is in one bundle

[random hornet]

hm (shared_2e58d9aa.bundle)

[restive basalt]

Which, tbh, is much less of a pain to look for
If i find the face, it means i already found that and the hair. One less thing to look for

[restive basalt]

Probably to give it that glossy look?

[random hornet]

https://github.com/aaronlink127/P5X_Research repo containing a few useful scripts
P5XUtils.py - script that can get the bundle name from an asset name, or list all dependencies of a bundle.
p5xfashion.cs - unity editor script to add a character to the scene view that uses the fashion system (i.e all thieves, most story characters)

[restive basalt]

@torn kindle can you pin this

@random hornet
https://github.com/iantCode/P5XModTools
https://github.com/Hiro420/p5xConfDumper

I found these, if you haven't already seen them

I know who iant is, as they're a dataminer in the community

[restive basalt]

What are the instructions for this? (I'm dumb)
I can run this using Powershell and stuff, but idk where to place the script at or the commands

[random hornet]

the script can be anywhere

heres an example command, python P5XUtils.py "D:\Games\P5X" find-asset-dep panther_thief_body_wholeexport_rig_panther_thief_body_shadow.asset

replace the directory in the command with your game install directory (the directory with the client and P5XLaunch folders)

[restive basalt]

Let's see...
In my case it would be opening the folder with powershell
Then typing 'uv run P5XUtils.py' and a command after that

I should make a doc that gives the names for character assets so that it can be used in conjunction with this

Since ann is 'panther_thief_body_whole export_rig_', i could theoretically replace Ann's ID with another thief (ex. comte_thief_body_wholeexport_rig_)

Sorry for the italics, dunno how to change that

[torn kindle]

oh they changed unity versions between cbt1 and the others

[restive basalt]

Not surprising (to me, at least)

Morty, could you please pin the new python script aaron posted up there?

[torn kindle]

i can't pin things lmao

[torn kindle]

[restive basalt]

Brawler said people with the verified modder role should be able to

[torn kindle]

this is really gona take a while huh

[restive basalt]

@keen grotto sorry to bug you, Brawler, but we need another thing pinned
I know you said that users with the verified modder role can/should be able to pin messages, but when I asked Morty, he said he couldn't pin messages

[keen grotto]

ill bring it up to staff. what do you need pinned in the meantime?

[noble mason]

Brawler

[Reply to:](#1384172755804487811 message) ill bring it up to staff. what do you need pinned in the meantime?

aaron

https://github.com/aaronlink127/P5X_Research/blob/main/P5XUtils.py script that can get the bundle name from an asset name, or list all dependencies of a bundle.

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Scripts and other materials from researching Persona 5: The Phantom X - aaronlink127/P5X_Research

[keen grotto]

according to mudkip you should already be able to pin messages @torn kindle

can you double check lol

[torn kindle]

i can pin things in my p5x concept thread but not in this one

[restive basalt]

I'm gonna try pull a crazy, guys
I'm gonna attempt ripping shadow ||katayama's|| monstrous form
It already exports from asset studio alone, but, frustratingly, it exports with some of the lodlow models, not the regular ones

[restive basalt]

😔

[zinc dirge]

I'm looking through the files and I'm seeing some persona named PS_(persona name)_STF any idea what that is?

[restive basalt]

stf? hm
is it a mesh? texture?

[zinc dirge]

Animator

There's also MP

Oh MP is my Palace statues

[restive basalt]

yup

i found that yesterday

[zinc dirge]

Idk if there's meshes or not with STF

Looking now tho

There's also PS_(persona name)_HL which ig is highlight?

[restive basalt]

that would make sense

[zinc dirge]

But then why have a different animator for highlights why not just use the same one in normal battles and use the animations

[restive basalt]

NO LODLOW LET'S GOOOOOOOO
(i highly advise against viewing this unless you've seen shadow ||katayama's|| monstrous form. Although we'll be seeing it in the next update anyway, so)

[keen grotto]

verified modders should be able to pin here now. is this the main P5X model thread at this point

[restive basalt]

@torn kindle you got a job now lmao

[spiral pendant]

Final Fantasy looking mf

[restive basalt]

trying to get Akashi next, but he's....weird

it's saying his meshes are in the same bundle as the armature (the role bundle)

so i'm gonna load half of the game instead of just the role and part files

he has two battle phases and i'm seeing 3 seperate animators for the second phase. no mesh at all

the meshes exist, i know that for sure

huh
bizarre
his meshes ripped, but they ripped in the mesh folder instead of as assets where the animator is at (aka the main folder)

mmm similar issue with phase 2 akashi
this time no mesh but yeah
i'll look in all the files instead of just role and part

[restive basalt]

even more bizarre
his lodlow model is in a shared bundle while his regular model is in the role

@random hornet what are your thoughts? the model m_mingshi

i know a piece or two are in a shared bundle, since both forms have that mesh on them

[torn kindle]

i do not recomend anyone tries unpacking all of the games bundles and loading them into unity, we're not even half way yet

[restive basalt]

RIP Morty

couldn't have done half at a time instead?

[random hornet]

oh also the outerpackage bundles being weird is an intentional obfuscation
oh this was already known

they hash the name and use it as an initial offset for the file

[restive basalt]

aaron, why do you think i'm having issues with Akashi's monstrous form?

[restive basalt]

.

[restive basalt]

.

there's pieces in shared bundles, but i don't know how to put them together

it's a bit of a mess to figure out since it's a battle with two phases (appearance wise), but each models shares some aspects
and the model for the first phase is so weird since it's just meshes in the role bundle

I can probably get the second phase to work...?

[random hornet]

whats the model name?

[restive basalt]

m_mingshi
m_mingshi_ball for the second phase

in unity, it's showing the animator, m_mingshi as it should
but the mesh assets are being ripped to the mesh folder instead of outside of it
probably because the mesh is also in the role bundle

i think I got m_mingshi_ball to work tho

i have to add textures to double check

[restive basalt]

yeah, i got _ball to work

[random hornet]

idk if this'd be useful but

pushd

i also implemented vFileContent stuff, it was pretty simple the format is just like the other FB files

well theres some unknown stuff i skip over

[random hornet]

this is what m_mingshi looks for me after importing

i just dragged the prefab i didnt do anything else

[restive basalt]

interesting

nothing showed up when I did that

i'll try again then

sorry for spoiling his form for you 💀
It's fitting for him tho - a ||praying mantis||

[random hornet]

oh i dont mind

[restive basalt]

i'm sure with ||praying mantis|| you can guess what the sin is

[random hornet]

but yeah i just ran this and then ripped all the assets with assetripper, and then opened the exportedproject

i couldnt find it until i looked up in the viewport, the size was unexpected for me

[restive basalt]

all the assets from just the role bundle?

was he teeny tiny?

[random hornet]

no massive

[restive basalt]

ah, yes lmao

[random hornet]

although all the dependencies leads to a kinda bloated project

[restive basalt]

when you export just the animator from assetstudio, all monstrous forms are gigantic

[random hornet]

i guess some shaders depend on assets like this

[random hornet]

yeah the role bundle had the mesh and textures

[restive basalt]

i saw that and was confused because the first time I tried, it only imported the rig

[random hornet]

interesting, they should be part of the same "container"

[restive basalt]

i got it imported now tho

[random hornet]

coolcool

[restive basalt]

but it was definitely weird having the meshes in a role bundle

can i export animations so he has one upon import?

iconic

i believe if you port him straight from asset studio he also makes this pose
any model ported straight from the files and not via unity has their idle animation, from what I can tell

well, those who fight in battle

[zinc dirge]

Alright idk if I'm just blind or what but I've looked twice and I can't find Ps_Thelxiepeia

[random hornet]

did you try the pinned tool

[zinc dirge]

Which one?

[random hornet]

wait what persona is this

i dont see it in the model list

[zinc dirge]

Berrys

is it the wrong name am I stupid? lol

[random hornet]

her persona model is ps_himerope.prefab

[zinc dirge]

omg

Idk where I got that from

[random hornet]

which is in role_3e4d58a8.bundle

[zinc dirge]

How do you use this tool you mentioned

[random hornet]

download the script
then open cmd and run it like
python P5XUtils.py <p5xgamedir> find-asset ps_himerope.prefab

replace <p5xgamedir> with your game directory (the dir with client, P5XLaunch, and P5X.exe)

[zinc dirge]

This?

[random hornet]

yeah

[zinc dirge]

Okay sorry I'm new to this how do i open it?

[random hornet]

do you have python installed

[zinc dirge]

No

I have visual studio

[random hornet]

well you need python installed to run .py scripts

[zinc dirge]

OKay I will do that

So problem.... it won't open

I've Installed python

[random hornet]

open a terminal in the same directory as the script

i guess i could make it more intuitive

[zinc dirge]

I'm sorry I know nothing about python so idk what a terminal is

[restive basalt]

i'm probably screwed
i don't have python installed but somebody helped me set up running py scripts using powershell

something thing called UV

[zinc dirge]

I'm sorry lol I don't mean to be a bother

[restive basalt]

i'm sort of in the same situation haha
i can run scripts by just going 'uv run (insert python script file name)' but idk how to do it by just using python itself

i got this earlier

[zinc dirge]

Visual studios has a python modify I can install I'll see if I have better luck with that lol

[random hornet]

you left out the python script i think

[zinc dirge]

Can you show me how to open the file? Idk what a terminal is or anything

[restive basalt]

oh shoot you're right
lemme try again

ahhhh there we go

endless gratitude to the dude who helped me install UV

[zinc dirge]

Alright I'm slowly learning

Like this?

[random hornet]

yeah, but put quotes around the game dir

because it has a space

[zinc dirge]

These "”

[random hornet]

these ""

[zinc dirge]

Alright I understand it now thank you

Tho you should probably add a easy to understand how to in you read me lol

Also is there a doc that says which everything is labed as like if I wanted to look for guns or weapons what would I type

[random hornet]

i look at the games conf files

which can be opened with db browser for sqlcipher

[zinc dirge]

and how do I do that

[restive basalt]

Probably with the pain, sweat, and tears of small children
(Aka idk but it sounds hard)

[zinc dirge]

Them tears will be worth it lmao

[restive basalt]

How cruel
What did the little children do to you /j

Btw aaron
On your script's github page, you should put a list of commands and what they do
I know the script gives you the commands if you make an error

[zinc dirge]

Make it difficult to find the P5X stuff I need lmao

[random hornet]

ok the script is now updated to allow you to open it directly with no args for an interactive mode

[zinc dirge]

You know your amazing

[random hornet]

also put p5xfashion.cs in the repo because that seems like a useful thing to have there

oh but i would also have to somehow bundle in the decompiled game structs hm

[zinc dirge]

Wdym?

[zinc dirge]

am I doing this wrong?

[random hornet]

it should just copy the bundle to the given directory

it doesnt extract contents unfortunately

command works for me

but yeah this is just a tool to get bundles for use in assetripper

[zinc dirge]

I keep getting a error

[random hornet]

whats the error

[random hornet]

oh its assuming the berry directory exists

[zinc dirge]

I do have a file named berry should I remove it?

Yup that worked

Omg nvm I had the file as barry in on my computer and Berry in the code

[zinc dirge]

How do you look for textures .asset doesn't work

[random hornet]

look at an assets dependencies

and extract all, like id do

extract-bundle-dep part_ry_thief1a650aa7.bundle <outdir>

[zinc dirge]

Well I ask because I'm wondering if she has a matcap mask and it's not in part

[random hornet]

matcap mask for what part, because this part seems to be her face and hair

speaking of matcaps these look crazy

[zinc dirge]

Actually idk the texture I have just says BS_berry_thief_matcap

[random hornet]

oh but yeah find-asset doesn't work for all assets, only ones that are registered in the asset map. most textures are not in the asset map

[zinc dirge]

When I import the part it gives me I get this idk where this would go or if they have a mask for it

[random hornet]

i think its for her actual mask

[zinc dirge]

Maybe? idk it doesn't really say

[random hornet]

oh the animators work in play mode and editor thats neat

[zinc dirge]

oo that is

[random hornet]

i dont see all out attack anims in the animator

but i think thats normal only regular character battle anims and field anims are in their animator

[spiral pendant]

Pretty sure I've seen separate Animators for those and their Highlights

[zinc dirge]

Don't think it's supposed to be that small

[random hornet]

it was normal sized when i imported it with the fashion tool

[zinc dirge]

Idk what happen it's the only one to do that

[random hornet]

are you importing the right prefab using the tool?

i added berry_weapon_02_wholeexport_rig.prefab

[zinc dirge]

Thats 3 and no i just took the mesh

[random hornet]

oh import it like the other body parts

[zinc dirge]

Nope it's still small

[random hornet]

thats weird

[zinc dirge]

Ha got it

Is it possible to import the materials working?

[random hornet]

not really, assetripper cant decompile the shaders properly

wait

[zinc dirge]

waiting

[random hornet]

i dont think thisll work but im gonna try assetrippers extract shaders as yaml option

no definitely not

[zinc dirge]

Okay so it is normal in unity but once it gets to blender it's small

[random hornet]

odd

makoto's evoker is so weird instead of having an actormeshexportinfo like every other fashion part it just has the skinned mesh renderer right there

[zinc dirge]

How do I export the low models

[random hornet]

huh

like the lod models?

id have to modify the script to do that

[spiral pendant]

there's no reason to anyway

[random hornet]

i assume they want them for vrchat mobile platforms

because it has strict requirements on things like vertex count and vram space

also on the latest version of CN they started compiling their lua scripts without debug info... sad. just means all the variable names are gone

[zinc dirge]

Yeah I was thinking it would be smart because there's a strict limit on things and thought using the low poly models would help keep me under the limit

[restive basalt]

Poly count wise, Tactica has more, actually

I remember seeing a poly count comparison of Joker across the different games

[restive basalt]

Oooo
I was hoping to get that for Akashi (the one i extracted earlier)

[random hornet]

ok i pushed an updated p5xfashion.cs to the repo

now it should be updatd on github https://github.com/aaronlink127/P5X_Research/blob/main/p5xfashion/p5xfashion.cs

[spiral pendant]

what is shadow for?

[random hornet]

i think they're used when casting shadows on other objects

im not sure

they are the lowest quality though

[restive basalt]

One person speculated it's for when it's really dark and higher detail isn't needed

Or if a model is far enough away

[random hornet]

the model doesnt have any UVs usually so im gonna assume its not rendered at all

or any material assigned

[restive basalt]

Interesting

How did you get berry in her idle pose like that
Was it because you imported dependencies and all that?

[random hornet]

yeah

[restive basalt]

Makes sense
I am firm on getting Akashi to make the iconic pose....

I call it iconic mainly because it sticks out in particular in my brain

[random hornet]

oops i broke high materials, pushd another

[random hornet]

also more than just idles

[spiral pendant]

does this mean you can export animations now too?

[restive basalt]

@torn kindle

Pspspsps animations

[random hornet]

after building and then exporting in asset studio they're in blender, although it defaulted on the death anim lol

[restive basalt]

Lmao

RIP Makoto

[zinc dirge]

Thank you for that

[restive basalt]

Do you just specialize in python more, aaron? Just curious

[zinc dirge]

It's funny you kinda just spawned in and made it like it wasn't a issue

[restive basalt]

Everyone else: what are we gonna do??? It's impossible!!!
Aaron: hey guys so I just wrote this, sorry i'm a newb in C#
Somehow manages to (for the most part) resolve the issue

[torn kindle]

[restive basalt]

I say for the most part since the importing isn't perfect
-stares at swimsuit makoto-

[zinc dirge]

Shhhh she isn't real

[restive basalt]

Hey, c'mon now Morty, look at the bright side
It's 75% done 😃

[restive basalt]

I guess Katayama's right boob isn't real either

[zinc dirge]

Huh lore please lmao

Only has one boob lmao

[restive basalt]

When I exported her, she had weighting on her left breast, but not her right

And the bones for said breast were misaligned

[zinc dirge]

Gotta edit the model now so there's only one boob lmao

[restive basalt]

NO

[zinc dirge]

Actually that would look very funny

Okay I need to lock in and go to bed it's like 3:30 in the morning and I haven't had proper sleep in days working on the vrchat stuff

[torn kindle]

FINALLY

[zinc dirge]

All gets corrupted

[torn kindle]

DON'T

i did not leave my pc on for over 24 hours just to get unusable stuff

it is just loading tho i can't do anything

[zinc dirge]

Usually how it goes for me corrupted or my PC just freezes/blue screens

[torn kindle]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

WHAT HAPPENED LMFAO

[zinc dirge]

Oh God I jinxed it 😱

[torn kindle]

NO NOT AGAIN

[restive basalt]

RIP Morty

[random hornet]

oh but it imports fine in blender, i messed around with nla editor to test

[zinc dirge]

Hype

Sadly I'd need to edit some animations if I was gonna add them to vrchat

[random hornet]

i still hate the bone structure p5x uses, especially the neck

who parents the clavicle to the neck

[zinc dirge]

That's my issue

I have to change it for it to work with vrchat

And also the the twist bone isn't connected to the arm so if you move the forearm it doesn't move the twist bone

So it moves weird

[torn kindle]

jw how do you get the textures to apear on them in unity, whenevere i try they're just pink lmao

[random hornet]

thats just how it looks when i had all the shader dependencies

its not accurate because its just assetripper dummy shaders, but yeah it stops it from being pink

the shadow model looks interesting

i was wrong about them having no material

they use some generic material

[restive basalt]

Is there no way to re-parent or are the weights simply not there?

In some ways the armatures resemble Royal's, so maybe one of their models could be used as reference?

[restive basalt]

Like, the bone names are identical for core bones like the spine and limbs

I don't know if it means they just aren't parented correctly or are missing those weights to begin with

It's 1 am over here, so i'm not gonna check
I'll do it later

[torn kindle]

why are the artifacts all so big

[restive basalt]

Artifacts?

[random hornet]

well you do have like a morbillion of them

they're from importing assets

[restive basalt]

Like leftover stuff that's randomly created as a result of importing? Or do they already exist and are just there™️

[random hornet]

its the stuff thats made from importing

[restive basalt]

Ahhh okay

I was gonna ask what the point of it was, if it was there to begin with

[spiral pendant]

probably just parenting stuff

The dancing rigs had a similar problem from what I remember

[restive basalt]

Just for the legs

You had to re-parent those 3 small bones at the knee area to the leg bone and not the upleg bone

[spiral pendant]

yee

[restive basalt]

There were weights, so there was movement
But with the P5X armature, i'm unsure if there are actually any weights and it's a parenting issue or if the vertex groups for those bones simply don't exist

[spiral pendant]

the upper arm areas do have weights, it's just weighted to the ArmTwist bones instead of the UpperArm bone for whatever reason

I think they did the same thing on the thighs

[restive basalt]

Hmmm
I see
Looking at how royal models did parenting should give us a good idea

According to morty, they both use a standard Maya skeleton, so observation of a royal model will likely give us the answer

[restive basalt]

I can not make out that writing at all
I just assume you're showing the weights for the twists

Also, i see you're a man of taste
Riko is a great character

[spiral pendant]

writing?

[restive basalt]

I plan to woo here when she releases

[spiral pendant]

but yeah those are the weights on the armtwist bones

[restive basalt]

The text in the screenshot
Morty has the same issue lmfao

I always have to remind him i can't read what's on his screen in screenshots

[spiral pendant]

weird

are you on like a big monitor or something

[restive basalt]

Idk
I'm not sure the dimensions

It just looks like this on my screen, mobile and pc

[spiral pendant]

wack, I guess mine is too big then lol

[restive basalt]

I just wish these armatures didn't have so many bones just called BoneXXX

Makes stuff confusing and the only way to make sense of it is to test the bone to see what it moves, then rename the bone and vertex group

I know BoneXXX are the actual bone names and not generated, but it doesn't make it any less annoying

[random hornet]

i mean ig they just dont wanna bother

outside of stuff like IK bone names dont matter

[spiral pendant]

At least it's not like KT rigs, where all of the bones are unnamed like that

[zinc dirge]

Parenting issue

[restive basalt]

Huh
How are bones names BoneXXX a parenting issue
I'm sure all models has a parenting issue or two - considering the state of exporting atm - with BomeXXX bones, but I would say it's because of of their names that it's a parenting issue

[restive basalt]

KT?

[restive basalt]

Strikers models appear to be like this too

[restive basalt]

What's weird is that I did see IK in unity (the name)
But the exported models appear not to have it
Probably because it was exported as fbx?

[zinc dirge]

Sorry wrong message I replayed to

[restive basalt]

@zinc dirge how did you re-parent the upper arm? the forearm seems parented fine

the upper arms look fine too, but i think i'm missing something...? i'm comparing the armature to kasumi

[spiral pendant]

Koei Tecmo

[restive basalt]

Ohhh

Well, Strikers was done by Koei Tecmo, iirc

[spiral pendant]

it indeed was

and it has the same problem with the raw rips

[random hornet]

well i assume their bones dont have names at all and these are just auto generated by whatever ripped them

[restive basalt]

How could there be none at all
Doesn't animation go off of bone names

[random hornet]

not necessarily

their engine could do anims based on bone index for instance.

[spiral pendant]

I didn't check Strikers specifically, but I know Fire Emblem Three Houses did the same thing and the numbers correlated with the same bones across different models. and that was also KT's work

so I'm pretty sure they did the same thing here

[restive basalt]

I know it was a nuisance doing Akane's hair because I had to figure out what bone went to what

In the end she had just 3, iirc 🗿

I think the biggest nuisance had to be remembering what bone was parented to what

[zinc dirge]

Still need help?

[restive basalt]

I'm not in front of the comp, but any help is nice
It's just weird since I used Kasumi as a comparison for the arms and they seemed correct
Same with the legs
But if there's a better way to parent them, i'm all ears
I like to make 3d renders

[zinc dirge]

I'm omw home from work I'll show you what I do

[restive basalt]

It could help me clean up Akashi and Katayama as well

[zinc dirge]

Ofc lol I haven't had leg issues other than chord but I can still show you how to fix that

[restive basalt]

I haven't touched the legs yet
I test legs after I do stuff like weight clothes

The first thing I check is the arms

[zinc dirge]

First make sure this bone is parented to upper arm

There's one for both arms

[restive basalt]

Hmmm
I'm not sure i saw those bones on Marian
But noted

I saw upper arm and 2 twists i believe

But from the looks of it, they were parented properly (when compared to sumi)

[zinc dirge]

Which one are you trying to fix Marian or Sumi?

[random hornet]

oh, in this EN update they changed the password to the configs and also removed lua debug symbols

[restive basalt]

Summer marian

I was using Sumi as reference because P5X and Royal use standard Maya skeletons

So theoretically the parenting should be similar or the same

[zinc dirge]

Are you using Maya?

[restive basalt]

No

I use blender

I only know the Maya skeleton thing from Morty

And observation of core body parts not related to clothing, accessories, and hair

Bip01 Head, Bip01 Neck, Bip01 Spine, etc

[zinc dirge]

Okay yeah ik they used Maya because of the naming Bips

[restive basalt]

I can send you summer marian to look at

[zinc dirge]

Sure if you want me to check

I can't rn as I'm watching Evangelion movies with my mom

But after I'll look

[zinc dirge]

Okay so looking at it it does not have the same issues as me so idk what's wrong

[restive basalt]

hmmm okay

[spiral pendant]

still not really sure if I'm setting up these pk maps properly in Blender or not

anything I try seems super subtle

[random hornet]

wdym

[spiral pendant]

I think I was just having a skill issue actually, nvm

dunno how to use that face normal thing though

[random hornet]

no idea

it seems to fully override the face normals, but idk how it gets the direction to modify

[spiral pendant]

hm

[spiral pendant]

so yeah I tried setting these up with Glossy/Specular BSDFs and it does seem pretty subtle but it's doing something. left the blue out because still not really sure what it does

[random hornet]

it seems like theres also a few different shaders for different contexts the game uses
role, role_stockings, role_hair, role_matcap, etc

[restive basalt]

If you mean that black and white texture, I told you before - you bake it into the normals of the face

I hear genshin uses them too

[restive basalt]

You can also apply them manually in a photo editing program

[random hornet]

no but im wondering how p5x does it

and i dont mean how you would extract it, how it applies these in realtime

[restive basalt]

Hmmm

[spiral pendant]

how do you even do that, I've not really messed with normals before

[restive basalt]

Tbh, I don't know
Only Morty could tell us how to apply it in blender

[random hornet]

that seems inaccurate

at least the green channel part

[restive basalt]

Well this is more photo editor settings i believe

Dwine is very smart

[random hornet]

well its an estimation to bake the data from the pk in the diffuse

[restive basalt]

Morty gave me a file for Chainner that applied the pk to the diffuse, but as you said: you want to know how the game handles it

Maybe genshin has a clue? Both were made by unity and utilize am sdf texture

[spiral pendant]

I think I tried looking at an HSR shader once to figure that out

but holy moly

[random hornet]

the 3dmigoto decompiled shader code not pretty

its too bad assetripper's shader disassambler/decompiler doesnt work with p5x and it never will

they're removing all shader decompilation ability in the next update

[restive basalt]

How will we ever figure it out then..?

[random hornet]

its weird how the models exist but not the skeleton for the phantom thieves not currently in global

wtf skeleton do they use here

[restive basalt]

Very weird indeed

[spiral pendant]

inb4 pre-rendered

[restive basalt]

Is it possible to back up tje shader files before this next update so attempts can still be made to decompile it?

[random hornet]

i dont mean next p5x update

i mean assetripper is removing its shader decompiler because it doesnt work with most unity versions

[restive basalt]

Ahhhh
Well, thankfully assetripper is a portable program?

Maybe there's programs out there for specifically decompiling shaders?

https://github.com/nesrak1/USCSandbox

I saw this

[random hornet]

oh it seems like the game flips the f02 face texture depending on the direction the light is coming from

[random hornet]

the light direction is currently hard set in the material, but its a POC i guess

[restive basalt]

Sorry to bug you, @torn kindle , but if you have some time, could you please check this out? ^
I know you've said bake into the normals, but none of us know how to (but I want to learn)

[torn kindle]

everything after like 2:20 is just me being dumb and forgetting how blender works

[zinc dirge]

The asset finder works with environments as well yeah?

[restive basalt]

Oh what about that script? The one you wrote and showed there

Also, after baking, is the shadow on the face dependent on the texture? You turn it on or off by having it plugged in?

[torn kindle]

you only need to bake it if you can’t use the sdf texture

[restive basalt]

What were you doing with the script then?

[restive basalt]

Who knows
But I'd assume it would, seeing as it's still as asset

[restive basalt]

Oh forgot to mention, but can you pin this please?

[torn kindle]

baking it

but that’s bc i’m gonna use it in p5

[restive basalt]

What if it's just for renders?

[restive basalt]

Sorry, just a wee bit confused is all
I want to use the sdf for static renders, since it's how the faces look in game

[zinc dirge]

Okay wanna get all the meshes for my Palace

[restive basalt]

All i know is that the prefix is mp_

[zinc dirge]

Yeah I just need to know how everything else is labeled and I should be able to find it

[restive basalt]

I can't help you there, unfortunately
But mp_ filters things

[zinc dirge]

Are where messing with location meshes yeah? How are they named like if I was looking for a floor what would it be called

[zinc dirge]

Alright now I'm confused

[restive basalt]

Let's just be patient for now
It's clear finding maps isn't easy
Our only real knowledge atm seems to be what aaron said, as well as the prefixes for the palaces which primarily consist of objects that appear to be part of a whole map. Like...props or pieces. I saw the control device you use for transferring energy, as well satellites (spl?). You see those in more than one room

[zinc dirge]

Yeah I'll have to wait cuz I'm trying to find an asset that clearly exists but it won't find it

[restive basalt]

He's talking about baking the sdf texture used for the face

[zinc dirge]

ik but that was the most recent message they sent and i didn't want scroll all the way back up to replay that that message

[restive basalt]

Then i guess you'll be confused? He just sent a video to show me so i understood the process

And I was asking a question, to which he responded

[zinc dirge]

No it was like yesterday or something they where talking about highlight locations just didn't wanna scroll back up and replay to that message

It's fine don't worry

[restive basalt]

Tbh i'm just glad that everything that's going on is going on at all
Things were looking rather hopeless

[zinc dirge]

Very much so I'm happy things are how they are

I was getting tired of using a auto rigger

[random hornet]

yeah the issue with baking the normals is it ends up with the assymetry

like i mentioned it flips the texture such that the cheek light is on the shadow side

the assymetry is to emulate the selfshadowing of the nose

[torn kindle]

yeah that's the thing it's only really useful for situations where there's no sdf support

also if someone doesn't mind, when they get the chance could they lob me the lightmap texture from bqg_benlei1FB1

[random hornet]

this?

[torn kindle]

yes tyty

[restive basalt]

What does this even go to......

[random hornet]

its the lightmap for Baseball Stadium: Central Exhibition Hall

[restive basalt]

One map for an entire room???

[random hornet]

yeah its auto generated by unity

[restive basalt]

Holy shit

I wish we had something like that for Royal

Less pain....

Do the texture names correlate (spl?) With the model name?

[torn kindle]

we do

[zinc dirge]

Ahhh that's where it's for I knew it was a lightmap but couldn't tell for where

[random hornet]

oh it seems assetripper doesnt export lightmaps by default as png

u have to change this setting

[restive basalt]

The hell is a lightmap anyway? The diffuse for the entire room or literally the texture for whatever lights are in the room?

[torn kindle]

baked lighting

[restive basalt]

Ahhh

What to do you mean by 'we do'? (For royal)

[random hornet]

a lightmap is basically the lighting baked to a texture

so the game doesnt have to calculate all the lights in a scene. also the lightmaps can have details that are hard to calculate in real time, like AO or shadows.

unity can also combine huge chunks of the level, or the entire level, into a single mesh to save time, but im not sure p5x does this

but thats why the lightmap is so unintelligible, because its basically 1 texture for the entire scene

[restive basalt]

I wonder if the diffuses of rooms are the same....

[random hornet]

i love this

[restive basalt]

An image of npcs...?

[random hornet]

yeah for crowds far away i guess

the proportions of the business guy on the left look so funny to me idk

[spiral pendant]

if you've ever wondered why the P3R dorm looks like ass, it not having a lightmap is a reason (not the only one, but a big one)

[spiral pendant]

@random hornet does P5XUtils need any specific version of python?

[random hornet]

im not sure

i recommend any 3.x version

[spiral pendant]

okay so I assume latest is fine then

[restive basalt]

Hmmm I wonder what all these read as
I have no clue the texture name tho, unless they're under sb_

All the party members are saying is that it's saying nasty/bad things about katayama

I can make out some hiragana characters, but not full words
My hiragana is rusty

Uhhhh...i can make out 'らない' (ranai)
'わらない' (waranai)
And 'しかけない' (shikakenai)

[spiral pendant]

"Don't touch! Don't talk!" that's all google lens gave me lol

[restive basalt]

Ngl the way they put outlines on her earrings and piercings is weird as hell

[restive basalt]

Makes sense
Akashi was consistently telling katayama not to interact with students in any way possible, in or out of school

Well, more Yamanashi, that cowardly shit
But Akashi tried to enforce it

[spiral pendant]

is there anyway to get this to find the part bundles too?

[random hornet]

the config files

[spiral pendant]

how do you look at those?

and what files are these

[random hornet]

the map file is sb_fadianchang_FDJF.unity

[restive basalt]

Noted
Atm gotta beat katayama tho 😔

[spiral pendant]

do you need any of the additional stuff in Visual Studio to be able to compile the ConfDumper?

or is there an easier way to build it that doesn't involve downloading Visual Studio lol

[restive basalt]

Idk tbh
I usually just ask somebody to do me a favor and build it 😭

[spiral pendant]

I just hate it when people are like "eh I'm too lazy, build it yourself" because it never fucking works for me lol

[restive basalt]

Same
I try, i really do
I never succeed

Also, fun fact: this is a completely separate model from her actual shadow model

[spiral pendant]

wow imagine that, it didn't work

and I've no idea what this is even going on about xd

[restive basalt]

[spiral pendant]

guess it's back to manually digging through AssetStudio for them xd

[random hornet]

the conf dumper only has the old global password anyway

it wont work for CN or the current global version

[restive basalt]

😔

How else can we dump it, then?

[restive basalt]

I'm trying to see if I can talk a p5x dataminer into teaching me how to dump the config

@random hornet help me out here man
Idk what to tell them

[random hornet]

idk why people gatekeep this

its just as simple as decompiling DBTools, and getting the key from there

[restive basalt]

If they're too stubborn, maybe i'll ask if they can pass along a dump

In this case specifically it's because they don't want too many people catching wind and have it reach its way towards the developers

Urgh...but it seems they want an answer

I can link you the server in DMs if you want to join and talk with them

But obviously not cause trouble i got in trouble for doing a raid here without knowing what a raid even was

i hate this situation so much, even tho nothing has happened yet
I know they're trying to assess whether it's okay/worth helping, but still
(I also hate whining about this, but it's quite frustrating)

[restive basalt]

Unfortunately no responses
Gomen everyone, I failed you

[spiral pendant]

Yeah idk what to tell them lol

Would be nice to have a solution for this because digging through AssetStudio is incredibly time consuming

[restive basalt]

Especially just loading the files

I can't load all of CN 😔 only half at a time

[spiral pendant]

I didn't even bundle it up that much lol

I did like 20 at a time and it still takes like 5ish minutes to load them

like 30 to get through all of them

[restive basalt]

30 mins for all of CN is insane (in a good way)

[random hornet]

makoto's idle in p5x looks odd

also something weird is some parts of the anims are jittery in the unity editor but export fine

especially feet and hair

also the skinning just doesnt update while the editor is unfocused, i think the unity editor is just wonky with anims

[restive basalt]

I find it funny when people want the p5x p3 models and i'm over here going "you know those are just re-skinned reload models, right?"

[spiral pendant]

worse looking reload models, at that

[random hornet]

i think they look ok in game but also ive only seen vids

[restive basalt]

The only special thing about them is that they're reskinned with the poly count bumped up

[random hornet]

oh yeah they have a component just for calculating the input face dir for the face shadow map

i think it uses the head bone y rot + the sun dir

it passes it directly to the shader in degrees

idk how you'd make a driver like that in blender but its probably possible

[restive basalt]

Maybe a python script?

[spiral pendant]

you can put a driver on the bone

idk about getting light direction tho

[random hornet]

i think you'd have to like hard set it to like, a sun object

or somn

it couldnt be done more dynamically

[spiral pendant]

wait this is for the weird light/normal map thing, right?

[random hornet]

yeah

[spiral pendant]

you could do something like that, you'd probably just be limited to one light object or something

I'm not super familiar with drivers stuff tbh

but I know I've seen stuff like that done before in Blender

[random hornet]

cuz i have a node setup for it but yeah its just manually controlled rn.

[restive basalt]

Twink

[spiral pendant]

so could you drop these file(s) or something if it's not possible to dump these from CN right now then?

[random hornet]

it is possible to dump them from cn

[restive basalt]

Is this from CN?

[random hornet]

yeah

[restive basalt]

Sweet

[spiral pendant]

what was I missing then

[restive basalt]

Should have Morty pin this

[random hornet]

and this is ConfScene which lists all the scenes with their filenames (under asset, just add .unity to the end)

[spiral pendant]

oh it's Excel

[random hornet]

i could give in JSON instead

[restive basalt]

Yeah 😂

[spiral pendant]

it still let me open it

[restive basalt]

Idek how to open a json

[spiral pendant]

I wonder if copypasting into google sheets would work

[restive basalt]

Or get this
https://www.libreoffice.org/

[random hornet]

im not sure why they're there but ignore the AAAAAA==, that just means no value

[spiral pendant]

@restive basalt Is Yukimi missing from your ID sheet?

[restive basalt]

Idk
She's tembin

[spiral pendant]

tyty

[restive basalt]

Yeah yukimi is missing because she has like...3 old models?

I had to figure out which was the one in public release

[spiral pendant]

ahh

[spiral pendant]

weird, one of these dependencies is pointing towards a bundle that isn't in my dump

[random hornet]

what if you do extract-asset-dep

[spiral pendant]

nothing happens

[random hornet]

what asset is it?

[spiral pendant]

frost_manwu_thief_ice_body_wholeexport_rig.prefab

bundle in question is shared_16a6bef9.bundle

[random hornet]

i have that bundle

its only in outerpackage tho

[spiral pendant]

ah, that explains it

why are the masks so weird lol

only things I've noticed so far that do this

[spiral pendant]

is there anyway to tell for sure what Animators are used for what outfits?

[zinc dirge]

They'll usually be labed Thief for thief uniform for school and normal for normal clothes

So like Frost_thief frost_uniform frost_normal

[restive basalt]

There are some exceptions, but they are quite rare from my knowledge
The more common exceptions belong to thief alts

The only uncommon model I can think of is Katayama

Instead of her being just n_wutian, her normal/default model goes by n_wutian03

[zinc dirge]

Which is weird

[restive basalt]

I chalk it up to: 1. Having more than one model and 2. An old and weird naming scheme/system

[spiral pendant]

I mainly ask because of this

I'm pretty sure this is the right animator, but this model isn't in a T pose like the other one is

[zinc dirge]

Did it look like that in unity?

Does it work?

[spiral pendant]

it moves

if that's what you mean

but yes that's how they looked in Unity

[zinc dirge]

So the bones work for it? Did you do a pose reset?

[spiral pendant]

yes the bones work for it

resetting the pose would do nothing because the other model this Animator is for is in a T pose

[zinc dirge]

You imported into blender correctly?

Holy shit it's 5 in the morning I need to go to bed

[spiral pendant]

I mean, it's imported

you can see it right there lol

[restive basalt]

That isn't a hard fix
Just put the armature in edit mode and reposition the bones

[torn kindle]

if you check my dump it has her in an a pose w the right rig iirc

oh wait nvm i don’t have the sports model

[restive basalt]

I had to reposition bones for swimsuit motoha once and it didn't affect anything. Typically i have to reposition bones for the face as well, but it isn't a huge deal
Just move them to the right place

[restive basalt]

Oh yeah, can you pin this morty?

[restive basalt]

And this

[spiral pendant]

might as well just pose the other model to an A pose lol

[restive basalt]

Thinking of trying to splice swimsuit Merope with swimsuit Marian if Merope exports well...
And then adjust merope's proportions to match marian's

And I could splice Shun and some other dude to try and create a male base

[restive basalt]

What is the confscene for anyway, aaron?

[random hornet]

its, well, scene configs. but the main interest is it has all the scene file names

[torn kindle]

jw is there anything that you can use to get what scene is currently loaded ingame or

[random hornet]

oh you could check the log file

they log a lot of things

yep when you change scenes it logs in Player.log something like this

the scene id being the 2130 there, which you can check the confScene to see what unity scene that corresponds to

@torn kindle

[torn kindle]

oh cool ty

i mainly just need to find all the first floor of palace 1 atm

[random hornet]

oh theres also this log that is the scene name directly

[restive basalt]

Sad face can't use it for the dam since it's cut off 💔

[torn kindle]

oooo which logs that

[restive basalt]

Unless I walk a friend through the process of accessing since chapter 3 is already done in global

[random hornet]

should be in the same log, Player.log, when you enter a scene. also saw this too

[restive basalt]

Do those names correlate to models? (I at least assume)
And is it hard accessing the log?

[random hornet]

not at all

its in %userprofile%\AppData\LocalLow\SEGA\p5x_en\

[restive basalt]

The textures?

[random hornet]

oh, no the log

the name is the scene asset name without the extension, so its loading bqg_benlei1F_kong.unity

you might be able to find stuff in bundle dependencies

[restive basalt]

By scene, do you mean cutscene? Or area?

[random hornet]

area

[restive basalt]

Is it a .txt file?

The log

[random hornet]

yeah

well its named Player.log but you can open it in a text editor

[restive basalt]

So if i had my friend go to every area in the dam, it'd be in the log

[random hornet]

technically yeah, but that info should be visible in the confScene too

[restive basalt]

Hmmm
I'm just wondering if somehow I can trace back the names in the log by asking a friend to enter each area of the dam
Maybe even the control center

She's on CN, so she's already up to dat on chapter 4
The ruler is coming off as the most irredeemable (spl?) yet. At least with Akashi you saw everything that happened and could sympathize with why the way he is (even if you despise him)
But this one...i don't think a post-battle spiel will save them

[restive basalt]

But does confscene even say what the bundle is (area name wise)? Or just gives you a bundle name

[random hornet]

confscene just says the asset name

then you can use the python script to get the bundle name from the asset name

[restive basalt]

Hmmm
I may ask my friend to get the player.log then
At least we can see what's loaded

[torn kindle]

why not just get it yourself lmao it's really easy

[restive basalt]

simple: i can redownload TW, but I never did chapter 3 due to the fact that I was and am severly underprepared due to barely understanding the game

and in global, it's currently shut off to players after beating katayama

[random hornet]

would it be any of these?

Chapter 3 Lower Control Center = sb_KZZX_zhuchangjing01.unity
Chapter 3 Control Center ??? = sb_KZZX_zhuchangjing02.unity
Chapter 3 Upper Control Center = sb_KZZX_zhuchangjing03.unity
Chapter 3 Control Center Central Plaza = sb_kzzx_ZT_01.unity
Chapter 3 Control Center Core Monitoring Room = sb_kzzx_HXJKS.unity
Chapter 3 Control Center: Safe Room = sb_KZZX_safehouse.unity
Chapter 3 Control Center Treasure Room 1 = sb_kzzx_KZS03.unity
Chapter 3 Control Center Treasure Room 2 = sb_kzzx_KZS03.unity```

[restive basalt]

I mean all the areas in the dam
water treatment, power plant, etc
maybe even control center (akashi's area) if you feel generous -

[random hornet]

this is all the sb_ prefixed levels at least

[restive basalt]

I see, I see

i'll check them out in a bit
trying to get shadow katayama, Blitz, and her persona

i have some bundles already for shadow katayama, but I figured it'd be better to use your script to find all the stuff in the asset tree as well

i wonder if the skybox has ever been found

[random hornet]

isnt it sd_WuTian.prefab

[restive basalt]

no i already know the ID

it's about extracting the other assets

the dependencies

I got the player log
we can see if there's some stuff missed? idk

it's just for the dam portion of the dam (aka Katayama's area)

[restive basalt]

this always seems to happen with her model

even when you import the .obj
well
when you import the .obj her hair is just super tiny

looks like it's the same here

nothing a scaling up of the mesh can't fix

[zinc dirge]

Wait where is the log

I can't find it on my PC

[torn kindle]

%userprofile%\AppData\LocalLow\SEGA\p5x_en\

[zinc dirge]

And what's the file called is it called player?

[random hornet]

yeah

[zinc dirge]

And what part am I looking for when it comes to loaded things

Got it

[random hornet]

oh wait i see, for all out attacks and normal attacks it spawns a seperate entity with a different prefab (i.e joker_thief_nocontroller.prefab)

its essentially the same but with no animator

[zinc dirge]

Ohhh so that's what they are

[spiral pendant]

why do they have animators with that exact name then

[random hornet]

well they do have animators

i was wrong but

they have an animator with no controller

also ic wym with the masks, it seems like its the same as makotos evoker

it merges rigs which i dont know how to do in editor

also for wonder for some reason his animator with all his anims is wonder_thief_0.prefab

his dead but not dead anim is called undying

[spiral pendant]

how did you get animations in there 🤔

[random hornet]

just import the animator with all its dependencies

specifically the anim bundles, like for wonder its these

actually im not sure abt skill anims like highlights

ah its in ConfSkillPerformance

[zinc dirge]

Hm exporting locations is weird

[spiral pendant]

damn 💀 wanted to try ripping those for the PTs

[random hornet]

oh yeah put quotes around the export path

im using the default python arg parser but for some reason it doesnt know how to handle \ without quotes

[spiral pendant]

Oh is that why trying to export that one thing was doing nothing for me

[zinc dirge]

No I mean from asset studios

Tho I just realized should I have put them into unity first?

[random hornet]

yeah for some reason without quotes the \ get removed entirely

oh i might be able to fix it
yeah should be fixed

[zinc dirge]

Getting it right from asset studios puts the prices in random spots

So we don't need to do the "" when extracting?

[random hornet]

im not sure the full ramifications of the change i made so it might be a mistake

you should only need quotes if the path has a space, thats how it should work

[restive basalt]

hey aaron, how did you get the outline on wonder
did you do the typical duplicate mesh thing?

I'm messing with Katayama's models for a render(shrinking the face bones down and deleting zero weight bones), but i know the game generates that outline

[random hornet]

i did it in geo nodes but essentially yeah