P5X Model Exporting

[spiral pendant]

I mean I figured it was for a valentine's thing, just confused as to why they needed a separate Animator for it

[random hornet]

i dont know if thats an actual entity model

at least, its not listed in ConfCharacterModel

[spiral pendant]

huh

unity is so weird

[random hornet]

well p5x also does everything in a very non standard way

but yeah unity sucks

[restive basalt]

so i obviously copy the contents of script into script and the p5xfashion into the asset folder. i start up unity and add to scene. i go to build settings and do LZ4 and press build. I save the build in an external folder call build (out is the folder with the assetripper assets), i open AssetStudio and drag data.unity3d into it and get this

[random hornet]

whats the build settings like

[restive basalt]

i also tried doing the build and run like you mentioned

[random hornet]

oh wait are you deleting the camera and light from the scene?

[restive basalt]

no

[random hornet]

oh oke

[restive basalt]

Main Camera and Directional Light are there

[random hornet]

thats fine then

[restive basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/why-cry-why-pepe-why-why-pepe-cry-pepe-pepe-cry-gif-5847161834541812219

so i literally just have no clue why this is happening

PT Katayama exported first time
Katayama and Akashi took multiple times tho (which, ultimately, sent me to bed earlier from the mental fatigue lol)

i'd re-rip and re-copy/paste scripts
or i'd just re-copy/paste scripts to the existing rip

Unity does not like me™

https://www.mediafire.com/file/1oqaiaar644j9nn/out+(sd_mingshi).zip/file

if anybody wants to try
it's the assets with the scripts already copy/pasted into there

[random hornet]

is there anything else in ur build directory with the data.unity3d file

like any other assets or bundles

[restive basalt]

nope

just .dll stuff, the ocassional json

[random hornet]

have you tried running it

[restive basalt]

i have tried build and run

when it ran, he was nowhere to be seen

[random hornet]

did you see the character in the scene

oh

[restive basalt]

i checked that data.unity3d as well, but still nothing

this is what the whole window looks like

(hiding for character spoilers)

[random hornet]

wait where did you save your scene

it doesnt look like its in the project

i think you saved it somewhere outside your project

[restive basalt]

i built the game and set the output of the game to a folder named 'build' which resides in the folder with the bundles and another folder called 'out' (which holds the assetripper dump)

[random hornet]

also given its named "SampleScene"

[random hornet]

i think you saved in the plugins dir or something

create a new scene in your assets, double click it to open

and add the mesh there

then save and build

[restive basalt]

what will making a new scene even do

it's just a lil asset here

[random hornet]

open it

and then put the model there and save it

you saved to a scene thats outside the project so unity doesnt build it or its dependencies (the model)

idk how you did it but

[restive basalt]

should I save the build to the default output

[random hornet]

yeah

build dir doesnt matter really tho

[restive basalt]

because I was putting the build into that folder called build

i set that as the folder for unity to export the build

[spiral pendant]

I'd just move that folder that you're pointing towards in the actual project directory

that's what I did

[restive basalt]

i made the build folder because i find it a pain trying to locate the actual project folder tbh

[random hornet]

well you can save the build wherever

the main problem is that the scene that has the model isnt in the assets directory at all

[restive basalt]

😭

[random hornet]

did you open the new scene you made

[restive basalt]

yes

[random hornet]

and put the model there

[restive basalt]

i added the asset and double clicked the new scene + added the model to said scene

[random hornet]

and saved and built?

and you're looking in the right build dir

[restive basalt]

i didn't save the project
i just built

[random hornet]

save the scene

with ctrl s

[restive basalt]

😔

[random hornet]

yeah i just downloaded ur project, opened in unity, made the scene, ran p5x char importer, and built

and its all there

[restive basalt]

I fucking hate unity

i'll start a new project from scratch and try again with what you did

i knew this was a skill issue
there was just something i was missing

okay, assets added in unity. so don't add the model yet. first right click in the asset area and make a new scene. double click on scene to enter the scene

[random hornet]

yeah but unity normally makes a new scene on its own

and then when you save it it prompts you where you want to save it

thats why i didnt mention it

[restive basalt]

deep breaths, neo

i don't even know how i can possibly be fucking up something so simple

maybe take screenshots of every step (in unity) so I can follow without error?

[spiral pendant]

is Mitsuru in the files yet?

[random hornet]

yeah

you just have to open the cn version for it to download the files

[spiral pendant]

I just did it last night but didn't see any of her stuff when I was finding the other Riko outfits

weird

[random hornet]

the update didnt come out until like, 10 pm est yesterday

[spiral pendant]

they should be there then because I just let it run overnight since it was downloading at like 8mb/s

oh well

[random hornet]

nah you have to open the game itself

not just the launcher

[spiral pendant]

oh right they do the in-game download thing too

the _thief outfits are such a pain btw

they can never just put the masks in one place

xd

[restive basalt]

😔
No screenshots then?

[spiral pendant]

I'd say just import the project that assetripper spits out, that way everything is already there

only thing you have to do is drop in scripts

[restive basalt]

I did......

It's the project building part

[random hornet]

well also the fashion part is named very unlike the rest

i.e winds mask is bs_wind_mianju.prefab while body is wind_thief_body_wholeexport_rig.prefab

also it might not use a skinned mesh renderer and instead directly attaches to a bone (i.e root_megane)

[restive basalt]

P sure that like Akashi's glasses that it's probably just weighted to the head in game

[spiral pendant]

even so, it's not like the mask has to move with anything other than the head or something like that

[restive basalt]

That too

[random hornet]

yeah glasses and mask are the same body part

all the body parts

[restive basalt]

What's the oddest part is that I got Blitz to export, but ||shadow akashi|| is being fussy, along with other models
I just did the same as before with her and she exported first attempt

[spiral pendant]

this is what I'm doing;

Add the ExportedProject that AssetRipper gives to the Unity Hub then open it

Copy the scripts into the Assets folder, replacing whatever it tells me to

Run the Character Importer, saving the scene somewhere in the Assets folder

Then making an Out folder in ExportedProject and that's where I build it

[restive basalt]

so you p much keep it in the default save area

[spiral pendant]

yeah

[spiral pendant]

yeah I create my Out folder there

[restive basalt]

....annndddd i still get this

[random hornet]

could u like, record your process?

if thats not too much

[restive basalt]

no it's cool

[spiral pendant]

yeah I'm not really sure what you could be messing up here or if Unity is just being moody lol

[restive basalt]

personally i think unity hates me, but that's just me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n-H2YT2G58

shit the stupid channel name doxxed my name

there, changed the name

[random hornet]

im confusd why it didnt prompt you to save the scene

like when you add anything to a scene usually it changes the name with an asterisk

[spiral pendant]

yeah it definitely is supposed to be

it straight up won't let me build if I don't save beforehand

[restive basalt]

are you using the same unity version as P5X or a different one?

[random hornet]

im using the same version as p5x

[spiral pendant]

same

[restive basalt]

same here

[random hornet]

although i dont have the account controls or unity version control at the top like yours does

[restive basalt]

i have unity hub installed

[random hornet]

i do too

[restive basalt]

interesting

maybe because i have an account?

[random hornet]

unity hub requires an account to use

[random hornet]

yeah save the scene

and then try building?

[restive basalt]

YES

https://tenor.com/view/femc-kotone-shiomi-p3p-persona-fire-gif-1205190765552418820

weird that I was able to export Blitz without doing that tho

[random hornet]

also nvm i do have it

i just never noticd

[spiral pendant]

I wonder, is it possible to get these to export with intact materials even if they don't have anything in them? Riko has 2 different hair models that end up with jacked UVs because they keep the front part of her hair UV'd to her default hair texture even if the rest is different. and I've had to manually separate it to fix it

[restive basalt]

perhaps delete the materials when you import her into blender?

'Just weight transfer from the Aigis robot suit for his armor, it'll work'
no it won't and this model fucking proves it
HE HAS BONES FOR THE ARM AREA OF THE SUIT + BONES FOR HIS ACTUAL ARMS

i know it wasn't so simple

that shit doesn't bend like rubber

[spiral pendant]

I mean that wouldn't be too helpful. It'd just be nice if they could keep the separation on import so I can easily just select the part of her hair that has that other material assigned to it and change it. I was able to do that when I tried exporting her with that one Wonder animator method Mortyy did

[restive basalt]

time to update the guide

[restive basalt]

||Ceaseless|| Wind is a pain

[random hornet]

manually assign materials to the skinned mesh before building?

it tries to find the materials in the project but if not it ends up with the default unity material

[spiral pendant]

that's not the one this is happening with. it's her swimsuit outfit and whatever tf dagongfu is used for, those are the two she has a different hair model for

[random hornet]

"work clothes" ?

[spiral pendant]

could try that I guess, not sure how to do that though

[random hornet]

thats what dagong fu translates to

[spiral pendant]

ah

[random hornet]

the pinyin is ambiguous tho so google translate gets confused

[restive basalt]

no no i'm just letting you know that that model is a huge pain in the butt as well

[spiral pendant]

oh I don't doubt it

[random hornet]

but yeah each fashion part has a name in the table

if you wanna look at these tbls get DBBrowser, open DBBrowser for SQLCipher, open ConfDataDevelop.bytes, and use the password

[spiral pendant]

what is this for exactly?

[random hornet]

idk if it might be helpful but these dbs have lists of every model and its prefab name

[spiral pendant]

ah

[restive basalt]

Okay, I updated the guide

[restive basalt]

turns out all those huge bones at ||shadow akashi's|| feet are for ||his jetpack. They're for the cables connected to the jetpack||

[spiral pendant]

were you able to figure out the shapekey thing?

[random hornet]

not all chars even have shape keys

im p sure

OH

the face models without _bs_ dont have blend shapes

thats what bs means

[spiral pendant]

ohh

huh

[random hornet]

not sure why this is the case

so yeah basically import the bs ones everytime if you want blendshapes

[spiral pendant]

usually I see faces in game use either bones or shape keys

dunno that I've ever seen one use both before

[random hornet]

apparently the face and mask can both have "blend shape" variants

altho idk any p5x chars where their mask would need to animate with the face

[restive basalt]

Guess i'm gonna be going back to see if I can find the bs meshes instead....

But that's for another day
Now that i've finally figured things out, I'm spending tomorrow working on my Katayama Dancing meshmod

[restive basalt]

Maybe to match hair movement to avoid weird clipping?

[random hornet]

that actually reminds me of something kinda silly, before 2.0 riko's face model was in the game but pretty much nothing else

and her persona was a dummy model

[restive basalt]

Did you also know that they changed her hair model?

It used to be completely straight, but now her hair is fanned out at the bottom

[random hornet]

also mont figure skater variant has been in the files of global since 1.0

[restive basalt]

Well, yeah

Global is a modified build of 3.0

Cherish is actually supposed to be in the files, as he dropped before 3.0

Yet in the files, there's only a few models relating to him and they're all for a skill

[spiral pendant]

okay I opened the game and let it do it's thing, did the vfile dump thing again, and still cannot find what I'm missing. so idk xd

[restive basalt]

Type 'frost' and filter by mesh?

[restive basalt]

I doubt you're looking in global, but if you are, i heavily reccomend datamining CN instead. sd_mingshi and sd_wutian's animators were monobehaviors in global for some reason while in the CN files they had both animators of the same name, but as animators.

Btw does anybody plan to test out exporting the 'bs' meshes to confirm the current theory?

Today i'm getting back to my katayama meshmod, as i'd put it on hold when aaron posted the script and shifted my attention to learning how to use it

And i don't feel like testing it myself 🗿

[spiral pendant]

I mean I'm looking in CN because the things I'm still trying to find are only in CN as far as I know

[restive basalt]

@random hornet @torn kindle your guy's suspicions (spl?) were correct
bs face has shapekeys

i wanted to comfirm myself because I was curious

i deleted the face assets that didn't have bs in the name

[random hornet]

yeah the game also calls them "morph" faces

i didnt check, do these blend shape faces still have rigging to the face bones or just shape keys?

[restive basalt]

he has face rigging

[random hornet]

thats interesting

[restive basalt]

akashi has them too

[random hornet]

im not sure what context the game uses one or the other

for thiefs i assume that they use the bones in the menu, and blend shapes in battle

[restive basalt]

Morty said once that the shapekeys are used for expressions the model makes a lot

[random hornet]

ig i could test this

later

[restive basalt]

he's made this face multiple times. he's rather socially awkward and doesn't always pick up on social cues, so wonder has to let him know he's being weird lmao

i remember an instance where he made this face. A customer at the flower shop was trying to pick a fight with Wonder and he stepped in to take care of the angry customer. He has his small ways of showing he cherishes his friends greatly

[zinc dirge]

I've ran into a issue in unity after importing the P5X character importer won't appear in the window settings

[random hornet]

if theres any errors in your project it wont show

[restive basalt]

pretty much they put in all the assets but isn't seeing the p5x importer options from the window tab. they followed the steps in the guide I updated last night

i asked them the questions if they put the scripts in and they have

and added the assets to the asset area

[zinc dirge]

Do you mean errors in unity it's self?

These are the errors I'm getting

[random hornet]

yeah

delete those asmdef files

[restive basalt]

I should add that to the guide under an FAQ or something lmao

i'm updating it everytime something comes up so the process and troubleshooting is as easy as pie

and believe me, i'm making it very, very easy to follow

[zinc dirge]

Oh I should ask in the guide it says to save a specific way do I have to do it like that or can I save with control S

[random hornet]

you should be able to save with ctrl s

[zinc dirge]

Okay just checking

[random hornet]

ok yeah the faces with blendshapes are only used in battle and the photo mode

[restive basalt]

really? i figured they were also expressions they made in game often enough to warrant it (to save time)

[random hornet]

it might be used in cutscenes, im not sure yet

[restive basalt]

i've seen instances where I recognized these shape keys
there's a cutscene in Akashi's intro where he uses the same smiling expression
and I believe the sad/pained looking one

i know for sure the smiling one

[restive basalt]

make sure what you're saving is the scene and not just the project

[random hornet]

ok yeah the game also uses them in cutscenes

btw the emotion on the face is directly tied to the dialog sprite being used

which is interesting

[zinc dirge]

Does that not save both

[zinc dirge]

Which one should I delete? the one in unity or the one the that was inported?

[random hornet]

the one that was imported

[zinc dirge]

Okay it's there now

[restive basalt]

yup! I noticed that pretty quickly
it's very obvious with Akashi's happy face
and, also, if you compare the shape key expressions to his sprite, they line up

[zinc dirge]

Man I love learning about game development lol

[restive basalt]

so remember! if you want a face with shape keys, use the face models (face, eyes, eyelid) with 'bs' in the name

before dragging and dropping the assets into unity, delete the assets for the face that don't have 'bs' in the name

[restive basalt]

hey aaron, how does it feel knowing you created something for unity (despite being a newbie in c#) 3 days ago that everyone is losing their minds over

[random hornet]

you shouldnt need to delete them

at least i didnt

just make sure to use the bs prefab in the importer only

or import them both, it doesnt mattr u can always delete the models from the scene later

[restive basalt]

when I imported them, they deleted copies of the face, eyes, eyelids, hair, and body

they only kept one copy of each

so it was either delete the non-bs assets or, as you said, only import those assets for the face (as in face, eyes, and eyelids)

[spiral pendant]

okay I've gone through the entire file dump twice after letting the in-game download do it's thing and still nothing 💀

I'm either ultra omega blind, or these just don't exist

[random hornet]

theyre in outerpackage

not in the extractor filecontentout

and outerpackage bundles need to be fixed to be openable in assetstudio or assetripper

im not sure who made this script but its been shared around a lot, it can do the "fixing" automatically

you place it in P5X/client/OuterPackage/Bundles (contrary to the comment) and run

[random hornet]

im not sure wym

i can put both face prefabs in the character importer

nothing gets deleted

[restive basalt]

Not when i imported

[random hornet]

importer shouldnt delete anything

[restive basalt]

There was only one copy of the face meshes

And i dragged and dropped everything

[random hornet]

every char ive seen have 2 face meshes

4 actually

face, face lod, face blend shape, face blend shape lod

[restive basalt]

Yeah
But when i imported the assets into the asset area, only one was there

[random hornet]

what char

[restive basalt]

All the ones i've done (akashi, katayama, blitz)

[random hornet]

well i know for a fact normal akashi has both meshes

[restive basalt]

Well, yeah
But when i imported the assets, only the face was there, not the other 3 face types

[random hornet]

what do you mean by imported the assets

[restive basalt]

The drag and drop into tje asset area in unity

[random hornet]

and you're saying the meshes just, disappear?

oh in my akashi files i only have his blendshape face

[restive basalt]

Yes

Unless I somehow missed some bundle

[random hornet]

that doesnt make sense

but yeah for akashi his blend shape face and non blend shape face are in different bundles

[restive basalt]

That's probably why
I typically search for the regular resolution face

I figured that the other face models were lumped together

[random hornet]

oh wait my rip has n_Mingshi_jq_head_wholeexport_rig_bs.prefab

idk what the jq is

[restive basalt]

Neither do eye

Never seen that before

[random hornet]

oh its for a seperate model on the same skeleton, n_Mingshi_jq

[random hornet]

it looks like this in game

[restive basalt]

OH THAT ONE

it's from ||flashbacks in Akashi's part of the palace revealing how he became the way he is. Everything is dark in every scene and you can't see the characters clearly due to the lighting. But you can still easily tell who is who||

Although unlike Kiuchi's, his are actually written 100 times better

it actually looks like this in game

[lofty wolf]

I'm gonna say, thank you Aaron for writing the exportation script!

[random hornet]

i think the toughest in p5x reversing is yet to come

i still wanna figure out how it knows where to find assets

[lofty wolf]

You did God's work here, and opened a whole new wormhole of P5X stuff

You're aiming higher? Damn, much respect!

But once again, thank you so much! I was waiting for this moment for so long, as did others

[hasty talon]

[spiral pendant]

it's just 2 textures I'm trying to find, are they really there 💀

[random hornet]

whatr you looking for

[fringe kite]

ooh

i've opened unity like twice (failed both times) and haven't touched assetripper, so this'll be fun xD

[spiral pendant]

okay nvm, it's just 1. Riko's summer outfit seems to be missing a shadow map for her hair

[restive basalt]

glad that my guide will be of some use lol

[fringe kite]

is this alright? im trying to rip one of wonders outfits so i think thats why its not identical

like this

[restive basalt]

Did you copy/paste the contents of the script folder (that's in the export script zip) into the assetripper script folder?

[fringe kite]

this is before i did

[restive basalt]

You gotta copy/paste the contents into script
It will add 1 file and replace 2

[fringe kite]

yeah i did, im figuring out unity now

i guess i have to do these 4 individually

[restive basalt]

Yes

Window > P5X Character Importer

[fringe kite]

i dont seem to have this one, maybe i got the wrong bundle yanfeithink

[restive basalt]

The blue cubes are what you drag and drop on that window

[fringe kite]

these are all i have

[restive basalt]

Add the cubes 😅

The solid blue ones, hard to miss

[fringe kite]

they're _rig ones though, your thing has just n_WuTian03

[restive basalt]

Because that's the name of the character's animator
The rest have n_WuTian03 in the name as well, but belong to her head and body

[fringe kite]

i found the issue, when i was searching for his bundles there was no animator

[restive basalt]

I'm not 100% sure what to do with Wonder tbh
I don't bother with him

Look up just wonder_normal

[fringe kite]

time to go on a hunt to see what these are named

[restive basalt]

See if there's an animator simply called wonder_normal

[random hornet]

its wonder_uniform.prefab

[fringe kite]

does that cover all of them?

[random hornet]

thats his overworld skeleton

[fringe kite]

i see

[random hornet]

and then the _rig prefabs are fashion elements that are put on that skeleton

[fringe kite]

its a shame that the models seem to largely rely on normalmaps for normals

well atleast marking things as sharp is relaxing

is there a reason that textures dont export or is that just a limitation

i can just add it manually so it's not a big deal, just wondering

[random hornet]

textures are usually in a different bundle

im p sure

materials should link if they can be found though

[fringe kite]

i thought there'd be more unused bones tbh

if they all share the same skeleton

[random hornet]

wonder does have a few diff skeletons but most outfits use wonder_uniform

wonder_uniform.prefab
wonder_thief.prefab
wonder_bianlidian.prefab (convenience store)
wonder_weiqun.prefab (apron)
wonder_niudongdian.prefab (beef bowl)
wonder_uniform_paozao.prefab (bath towel)
wonder_gamer.prefab
wonder_yingyuan.prefab ("cheer suit"?)
wonder_uniform_swimsuit.prefab
wonder_thief_swimsuit.prefab
wonder_ergate.prefab (full model, no fashion system)
wonder_dinergate.prefab (full model, no fashion system)
wonder_dollant.prefab (full model, no fashion system)```

[fringe kite]

lolll this big one is for his butt

[fringe kite]

i found a wonder_autumn one while searching also

this is why i love normal editing, i think it looks so much better for the work required

you can really see it with the shoes

[restive basalt]

What're you gonna do with the model?

[fringe kite]

i already put it on tartaglia in genshin, it was just the first model that came to mind

i was also thinking of doing this but i'm currently waiting to release a mod for him

[random hornet]

each fashion part has a chinese description associated with it,so for fun heres them translated with DeepL. hope theres not anything abhorrently wrong in it

[fringe kite]

for the weights i just used datatransfer from a base body that i posed to the proportions

[random hornet]

is it imported with 3dmigoto?

[fringe kite]

in genshin modding you cant add bones for animations so i wasn't too bothered about losing the jacket physics

[fringe kite]

yes

[fringe kite]

because tartaglia has none*

[random hornet]

just write a custom vertex shader to simulate the physics smh

joke ofc

idk how one would even begin to do that

[fringe kite]

https://tenor.com/view/of-course-gif-21373815

[random hornet]

too bad 3dmigoto doesnt work with p5x

well, it does but you cant replace character models because skinning is not GPU based
also the blender script doesnt like p5x for some reason

[fringe kite]

i dont think it'd be impossible, but i have no idea where i'd even start, this madman somehow figured out how to add custom bones https://gamebanana.com/mods/487812

same person also figured out how to mod faces, which was impossible before because they were CPU posed

[random hornet]

oh yeah custom shader i see

[fringe kite]

its limited to just moving existing verticies around but it's still further than anything we've gotten

can't change UVs, weights, shapekeys or anything

[random hornet]

thats interesting

i guess it offsets it in the vertex shader

you should be able to change position and uvs, but not weights or shapekeys then

altho uv changes would be awkward to do

[fringe kite]

on genshin the eyes are apart of the hair mesh so they can be modded normally, but in other hoyo games they're apart of the face so it'd be good for doing heterochromic eyes

well, hsr can be modded normally, nobody touches hi3, and zzz is a wip for face modding

[restive basalt]

With this exporter we have opened the door for P5X model meshmodding
Although tbh I'm probably the only one crazy enough to want to do it

I did it before with an auto-rigged swimsuit motoha I edited into a base

[fringe kite]

do you mean kitbashing parts of models to make a new one?

[restive basalt]

Yes
Meshmodding

[fringe kite]

im sure that p5x hair models will get used a bunch by hoyo modders

[spiral pendant]

I've literally combed through every single bundle 3 times now and cannot find this one damn texture xd. like does it just not exist or something 💀

[fringe kite]

i'll see if i can get it with migoto

[restive basalt]

https://www.deviantart.com/necroneos/art/Riko-Tanemura-Wind-FBX-XPS-1227919976

[fringe kite]

it'll dump everything onscreen so if there isnt one then it probably just doesnt exist

[fringe kite]

UVmap is different

competely different hairstyle

[restive basalt]

Wdym

These models are from public release, not beta

Hmmm

[fringe kite]

oh wait that includes it

[restive basalt]

Actually, you know what you could do

[fringe kite]

oh theres no button to see her outfit since i dont have her

[restive basalt]

Copy the UVs of the hair model from this (the linked model) and paste it onto the one you have

[spiral pendant]

I only see the diffuse and specular/highlights

[fringe kite]

does anyone know if theres anywhere else i can see it

[restive basalt]

The link i sent has all the maps

[spiral pendant]

yes, that's what I'm looking at

[restive basalt]

Hair usually only has shadows, specular, and diffuse

[spiral pendant]

and like I've said, there doesn't seem to be a shadow map for this one

[restive basalt]

Interesting
Might have missed it

It's midnight over here tho, so I am not getting up and spending a half hour of loading bundles + looking

[fringe kite]

im going through here trying to find someone with her + outfit LOL

is it this

nvm doesnt match the uv of this

[random hornet]

(unity textures are upside down in directx for Reasons)

[spiral pendant]

that's just her normal hair shadow map but upside down

[fringe kite]

im thinking she just doesnt use one, it would show up if it was being used on the model

[restive basalt]

Which model specifically

[fringe kite]

it looks a bit flat too, so i do think thats it

[spiral pendant]

weird

[restive basalt]

If you want flat, look at katayama's hair without her shadow map applied lmao

[fringe kite]

you'll probably just have to paint one manually

or gradientmap seems to work well

[restive basalt]

Whoa that's cool
What's that from?

[fringe kite]

https://forums.getpaint.net/topic/7291-pyrochild-plugins-2020-11-21/

[restive basalt]

The gradient mapping thing

[fringe kite]

you can also do it in blender

and bake it to a texture

using a ramp node

[restive basalt]

Ahhhh paint.net my friend

In an image editor you can make a new multiply layer, paste the shadow into that layer, and adjust opacity

It's how i got the shadows for Katayama's old hair texture

[fringe kite]

basically set up like this, make sure the bake texture is selected (make a new texture at the size you want), switch to cycles, change your bake settings to this and then press bake

this also works for recolors

@spiral pendant you should be able to use this

i think it looks nicer

[restive basalt]

Looks a little too dark (the shadows)

[fringe kite]

i didnt use a darkcol texture

[restive basalt]

I know

Remember how I said you could do that image overlay thing with multiply? You can change opacity of the layer to determine how strong the shadow is

[fringe kite]

my node setup just multiplies the texture with itself, it's more versatile that way and better for my needs

[restive basalt]

I'm just remarking it looks too dark (to me)

[fringe kite]

i see

it's not as nice as game accurate shading, but still good enough for me

[restive basalt]

As the game continues updating and more characters are introduced, it feels like they're starting to rely on shaders and shadow maps more over actual shadows already on the diffuse

I think the biggest drastic i've seen is with musubi
They updated most of her model for her confidant

Katayama was kinda drastic for her dress. Instead of being one solid color, it's now two separate ones

The game updates textures for characters on a need-to basis
Musubi only showed up at the end of Yui's confidant
And ||katayama|| got a new face model for chapter 3 because ||her shadow|| had a different face model. Idk when, but they ended replacing her old one with the one ||her shadow uses||. Which makes sense for consistency.
But since Musubi got a confidant, they gave her the glow-up treatment. They did the same to Katayama's hair and clothes textures

It also appears that with musubi's confidant they updated the mmo yui model

[spiral pendant]

I just ended up doing the node stuff, but ty anyway

[restive basalt]

I only know about these model changes since I unintentionally have ended up becoming the helper of p5x-theories on tumblr haha. They datamime assets and if I find something missing model wise, I let them know. Sometimes i'll find the assets myself and pass them on. They have me make model comparisons to see if there were any model changes so the models are up to date

I actually found a very silly one today
Cherish's model used to be T-posed. Now he's A-posed. Nothing changed mesh wise other than he is A-posed. Textures are exactly the same

[random hornet]

i saw p5x theories a few times when i was looking into p5x dumping originally

i saw them mention izanagi having an icon but idk if they know izanagi's model is in the game too, same for asterius

[restive basalt]

They do

They've been datamining since the first closed beta

Fun fact: Masaki (Cherish) actually used to be Take-kun, the kid being bullied in Kiyoshi's confidant

[random hornet]

did they know abt blitz being mentioned in the files before announcement

[restive basalt]

But i guess BWS decided to repurpose him and the model and made Masaki
And Take-kun's model was replaced with a generic npc

[restive basalt]

I'm not sure
They knew about Turbo tho

[random hornet]

they said they didnt know the password to the ConfData files iirc

[restive basalt]

They datamine the game on updates

And they only touch bundles, so that makes sense

[random hornet]

yeah the password is in one of the lua scripts

[restive basalt]

Which is why Masaki is called wuhexi in the files, which is probably take-kun's chinese name. Idk about his metaverse model tho, as I never dug that up myself (but p5x-theories gave it to me)

[random hornet]

yeah the metaverse model is wuhexi_thief.prefab

[restive basalt]

Makes sense
I wasn't 100% certain mainly because there's those models in the game's bundles for a skill that uses his codename

[random hornet]

yeah it seems like they mostly use his codename in the files besides his model

[restive basalt]

I have a lot of the phantom idol IDs memorized for searching by now

My favs are Fleuret and Cherish, so i know them by heart
I'm a sucker for pretty boys....
Akashi is an odd outlier tho

[random hornet]

yeah fleuret is also one with a weird name right

comte

[restive basalt]

I love Katayama well, as you can tell
I'm also a sucker for characters who are kind and compassionate like her and Maruki (excluding his actions, more so his personality)

[fringe kite]

enco and fengbandadi are the only ones i remember

daichi playable when </3

[restive basalt]

Real tho
Daichi is super hot

I like enco (aka Shoki, Luce) hair, but he lost me with the eyebrows
He also has the haru forehead

When i saw Daichi, it had me going

https://tenor.com/view/agg-oh-no-hes-really-hot-infatuated-crush-gif-17858188

[fringe kite]

and for my next trick i'll spend an hour doing custom normals on daichi just to never use the model

[restive basalt]

Lmao
What use do the custom normals have, anyway?

[fringe kite]

looks pretty LOL

[restive basalt]

Do you mean normal maps or the actual normals of the model (how it reacts to light)

[fringe kite]

a lot of genshin characters dont support normalmaps so it looks ugly without it

[fringe kite]

actual normals

[restive basalt]

Inchresting

I wonder if I could make Akashi, Katayama, Seiji, and Masaki look prettier....

Although i have no clue how the hell you make custom normals

[fringe kite]

its basically just selecting edgesand marking them as sharp

p5x topology really confuses me also

[spiral pendant]

my only experience with this kinda stuff was a Strikers face edit I made for Hifumi

was kinda proud of it, but at the same time I just kinda cringe when looking at it now lol

[fringe kite]

most of my stuff is just putting A's outfit on B, this is probably the closest i've gotten

i replaced all the small details with ones from lynette, like this

[restive basalt]

"Making them sharp"?

[fringe kite]

then when you shade auto smooth it'll show

you may have to do this first

im still working on it but you can see a huge difference already

[restive basalt]

Oh, that is very nice

[fringe kite]

it's time consuming but for me it's worth it

[restive basalt]

Did you de-triangulate it first?

[fringe kite]

yes, you can do alt + left click to select multiple things that way

it dies when you reach a tri, i haven't found a way around that yet

[restive basalt]

My friend told me to just select it all and do alt + j to detriangulate them

[fringe kite]

thats what i did

[restive basalt]

Ahh

[fringe kite]

make sure to select these (specifically uvs) so it doesnt break the model

[random hornet]

theres probably a way to get normalmaps to work anyway (it may or may not be custom shaders)

[restive basalt]

And you mark every edge as sharp, or just parts that'd give it some finer detail

[fringe kite]

probably, but it'd have to be updated every patch since shaders change all the time

[random hornet]

i think 3dmigoto has like, shader regex but the docs on it are so poor

[restive basalt]

I know that p5x normal maps unfortunately export improperly
They have to be fixed rip

[fringe kite]

just the ones that make sense like here, if it was all then it'd look like this

[random hornet]

you could also autosmooth as a baseline maybe

[restive basalt]

I'm still curious about p5x's shaders
Dwine already knows how they work, but hasn't really elaborated

[fringe kite]

i think i have a tiny bit of documentation somewhere

[random hornet]

i couldnt get them to work in the unity editor at least

[restive basalt]

One day....

[fringe kite]

this is my very old attempt at creating a shader

[restive basalt]

His hair and skin look like they're glowing

[fringe kite]

thats because i didnt configure bloom at all lol

PK
R = metal
G = idk, some shading thing
B = shadows

[spiral pendant]

I think I exported some through the Unity editor

[restive basalt]

The models look nice with dwine's p5 shader, but in the end, it isn't accurate to p5x's shader and shading style

[spiral pendant]

Dniwe also has a .bat in his batch collection that fixes them

I think Green is roughness?

[fringe kite]

shadow
red = painted shadows (i think these get excluded for rimlight?)
green = some painted shadow thing
blue = unused

[spiral pendant]

I've not messed with it too much, my shader is more P5S-adjacent than P5X lol

[restive basalt]

Yeah, i believe dwine broke down what each was
Morty has a Chainner project file I use to apply the pk map

[fringe kite]

like i literally just stole this

this version i did a bit more recently looks nicer

[restive basalt]

Old p5x textures are similar to strikers, shading style wise
The newer models not so much

[fringe kite]

it's still a mess and so incomplete i wouldn't share it though

[restive basalt]

DAMN

[random hornet]

also unity shaders are hard to decompile because you have like a billion variants of the same shader based on the settings of a given material

[restive basalt]

Such crisp edges...

[fringe kite]

do you mean the outlines?

[spiral pendant]

I've edited it a little bit to fit them better, but I'm not a 9000 iq galaxy brain with shaders lol

[fringe kite]

i couldnt figure out how they handle material IDs so i just split the mesh manually and made outline colors out of that lol

[random hornet]

funi

[restive basalt]

Yeah i wouldn't know how to make a shader myself lmao

Rip joker

[fringe kite]

this video told me like 99% of what i know https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySeUbOEnZhE

the other 1% is from looking at this, but it's so complex that i cant undersand most of it https://github.com/festivities/Blender-miHoYo-Shaders

[fringe kite]

scary...

[restive basalt]

Well, outlines in this game appear to be from one of the duplicate meshes
And you use the dotstroke texture on it

[fringe kite]

oh right i forgot about those

i remember some characters usedthem

and others didnt

[restive basalt]

I can see his chin! He had one all along....

[restive basalt]

My brain exploded the first time I watched this

[fringe kite]

i think im happy with this, there's no glaring issues (that i know how to fix atleast)

i immediately noticed like 5 things to fix

wait daichi just straight up has a hole in his model

thats better

wtf is this uv1

some kind of shading thing?

[spiral pendant]

Koei Tecmo strikes again

[fringe kite]

ah they also use color R for metal

[spiral pendant]

I still wanna know what the _stroke textures are about

[fringe kite]

thats outline color

i found my most recent attempt at the shader

its basically just dniwes p3re shader but with some stuff changed

[restive basalt]

It's so guys like him have a chin...

[spiral pendant]

[restive basalt]

I still wanna know what the darkcolor textures are for

[fringe kite]

shadow

[restive basalt]

Huh??? How is the dark color shadow when the body already has a shadow map?

[fringe kite]

what do you mean

by shadow i mean the actual color used for dark parts

like white is the normal color and black is the darkcol

[spiral pendant]

is that just done through curves or something

[fringe kite]

i just stole how shadows are calculated fromhere

[restive basalt]

I know the actual shadow map is within one of the color channels of the shadow texture

[fringe kite]

this is what i do to convert the p5x normalmaps into usual ones

[restive basalt]

But in some cases you can just make the shadow texture black and white and it'll work well

[restive basalt]

For dwine's shader?

[fringe kite]

yes

[restive basalt]

I see...i thought that shader didn't have nodes for pk

[fringe kite]

i had to make some edits to it

actually the one i did doesnt even use the pk except for the shadows

[zinc dirge]

Ooo are we learning on how to recreate the materials the best we can?

[restive basalt]

I think more so dabbling
We've known for a bit what textures go to what

[restive basalt]

I only learned not too long ago what another does

Specular, shadow, and pk can all be combined into one texture with an image editor but yeah

[fringe kite]

im not smart enough to get it game accurate

[restive basalt]

Neither am i lmao

Dniwetamp knows but he doesn't really talk much of his shaders

[fringe kite]

this was my attempt at recreating hi3's p2 shader, as you can see ingame is very different

[zinc dirge]

Lmao fair enough I don't really make them game accurate just the best I can seeing as I'm putting them into vrchat

[zinc dirge]

Did anyone get Yui yet?

[random hornet]

i tried looking at decompiled shader code but its hard to understand

i see what part does rim light but rim light is relatively simple

its just 2 dot products, one between the normal and the camera, and one between the normal and the light direction (i thinks)

[spiral pendant]

I ripped her uniform outfit I think

[torn kindle]

should be in the dump i posted here

[zinc dirge]

Where is it?

[torn kindle]

.

[zinc dirge]

Are they edited or straight rips?

[torn kindle]

straight rips

exported from this 70gb unity project i made

[zinc dirge]

So I'm not able to Import them into blender

[torn kindle]

they're exported as ascii fbx's

[zinc dirge]

How do I open them?

[spiral pendant]

you can import fbx's into blender

[zinc dirge]

ascii isn't supported

[zinc dirge]

Also I don't know if I'm blind but I don't see Yui in the list

[torn kindle]

oh wait yeah mb

[zinc dirge]

lol all good do you have her and not added her to the list? or you just don't have her at all?

[torn kindle]

she's in the project just not exported yet

i skipped a couple of characters

[zinc dirge]

Okay if you get around to it could you do her thief

[torn kindle]

yeah sure

[zinc dirge]

Aswome thank you I would do it myself but my pc is so old looking through the files takes ages if my Pc doesn't freeze

[zinc dirge]

Idk if this is a mess up on my end but frost is all kinds of messed up

[random hornet]

what are the files you used

like prefabs

[zinc dirge]

Sorry that was meant for mortyyyy in the pack they gave me

[random hornet]

ohh

[zinc dirge]

Sorry about that

[random hornet]

its fine

[zinc dirge]

Would you be able to share the unity project?

[restive basalt]

70gbs is a pretty big project, y'know

[random hornet]

it seems like p5x uses 2 albedo textures and mixes them, one for light and one for dark

[random hornet]

an attempt at shader-ing

[zinc dirge]

Forgot they said it was that big

[restive basalt]

The game itself is 70gb or so

[restive basalt]

Better than what i could do

[random hornet]

the hair rim lighting didnt work but i think the hair uses very diff parameters

if not an entirely different shader

[zinc dirge]

What's the node set up for it?

[restive basalt]

Yeah, hook us us! (Please)

Motivating me to get off my ass to re-rip katayama and some new characters for a meshmod tomorrow

[restive basalt]

Wouldn't that be bc and darkcolor?

Still need to ask Morty how to bake that sdf into the normals also

[random hornet]

yeah, bc and darkcolor

[restive basalt]

I thought you were talking about some mystery maps hidden somewhere lol

That reminds me that i need to do my dailies rip

[zinc dirge]

How did you do it

[random hornet]

heres the blend file should have the node setup inside, uses nodes that wont work in Cycles

and textures are packd inside

some shaders are a bit of a mess of experimenting, mainly the eyes

[zinc dirge]

Man I have no idea how you figured this all out

[restive basalt]

@random hornet i have assetstudio up and just wondering of you know what the name if queen's animator for her swimsuit outfit is

i see queen_thief, queen_uniform, and model-fashion-queen-swimsuit (exactly like that)

[random hornet]

its probably just queen_thief

yeah

[zinc dirge]

@random hornet did you do the color attributes or did it come with the model?

[random hornet]

the model had the color attribute

[zinc dirge]

Hm interesting the tomoko I have didn't

[restive basalt]

color attribute?

[random hornet]

the models have vertex colors , the red channel determines the thickness of outlines

i.e the eyesockets of chars have it at 0 so they dont get an outline

[restive basalt]

makes sense

have eye outlines sinces kinda weird lol

[random hornet]

oh yeah and mouth

yeah this is my outline nodes without and with using vertex colors on the face

the mouth is also an area that has outlines pretty much disabled

because it already has modeled on and textured outlines

[restive basalt]

Do the models come with all this info in them because we aren't just directly porting the mesh files from assetstudio?

[random hornet]

its because assetstudio exports models that arent skinned as obj and puts like 0 information

[restive basalt]

So then yes

[zinc dirge]

Also I noticed that the eyes have a normal map is there a normal map from them I've been missing?

[restive basalt]

A normal map for the eyes?

Never heard of that

[zinc dirge]

I think og P5 might have used them but it's been awhile since I've looked at them

[restive basalt]

I don't think they did

[random hornet]

eyes do have a normal map

its not important tho

[zinc dirge]

Is it one shared normal?

[random hornet]

i think so

[zinc dirge]

Interesting

[random hornet]

and then theres this gradient map, i assumed its for rimlight but im not sure

[restive basalt]

Who knows right now
Atm you're the only one dissecting this game actively

[zinc dirge]

Definitely a ramp of some kind

Ik there's some matcaps as well

[random hornet]

theres a few other eye textures i noticed when i was using 3dmigoto

[zinc dirge]

They kinda look like the white part of the eye

The one that's attached to the body

[random hornet]

theres the white circle thats a part of the face mesh, but yeah at some angles another white circle can appear

i tried to make a shader to mimick it but it didnt come out well

[zinc dirge]

Oh have you found the cheek texture?

[random hornet]

huh

[zinc dirge]

For the cheekred mesh

I saw the texture but my gooby ah didn't save it

[random hornet]

i didnt see anything like that on wonder

[zinc dirge]

This is kotomo's cheekred texture idk if you found them for anyone else

He has the mesh for it

[random hornet]

oh i see it

[restive basalt]

The cheekred is, i'm sure, for blushing

[random hornet]

oh i see it

its the same texture as the one you posted

[zinc dirge]

and the more silly eye stuff

[random hornet]

i didnt realize it was a seperate mesh

[zinc dirge]

same idea for what they did in og p5 for mona and everyone in pq

[restive basalt]

Yeah
It's a silly little mesh called cheekred

P5D and P3D have a little mesh they use for blushing as well

[random hornet]

the models weird though, it doesnt really line up with wonders face

[restive basalt]

I don't think we ever see Wonder blush, tbh
I could be wrong

Wonder doesn't have a lot of facial variety....

[spiral pendant]

P5S blush my goat

[restive basalt]

That's P5D bro

[spiral pendant]

thank you, I can tell

[restive basalt]

You said P5S

[spiral pendant]

just saying I like the P5S blush

[zinc dirge]

How do you do cutout in blender?

[restive basalt]

But anyway
It's nice to know what texture goes to cheekred

Huh?

[zinc dirge]

Removing the black

it's called cutout in unity and unreal

[restive basalt]

Ohhh

[random hornet]

put a material like this

and change Render Method in the material tab on the right to "Blended"

otherwise it might loook odd

[spiral pendant]

eevee next 😰

[restive basalt]

You can also imput the texture into principled bsdf and plug the alpha from the texture into the alpha of the shader and change the blend mode to alpha blend

[random hornet]

oh yeah principled has it builtin

also in object settings you should disable Shadow in Ray Visibility

[random hornet]

(these settings may look different in blender 3.x)

[zinc dirge]

I'm in 4.5

[random hornet]

ok then it should look the same

[restive basalt]

I am perpetually using 3.6 unless i'm forced to otherwise

[random hornet]

a lot of addons are broken because blender loves adding breaking changes to their apis

[spiral pendant]

eevee next is the prime reason I'm still on 4.1

[random hornet]

oh i should probably disable shadow casting on the eyeballs too

minor spelling mistake

[random hornet]

also its interesting p3r models use an entirely different eye style because they're basically straight ports from p3r

[zinc dirge]

I don't think it's used like this but its funny

[zinc dirge]

I've come to the realization that I have not found Tomokos mask BC I only have the Dark color

[random hornet]

for a lot of models i have darkcolor but only lodlow_bc

[restive basalt]

Sad...

If you check out my DA (NecroNeos) for the unrigged models I posted, you may be able to supplement the textures you can't find

So the og PT only uses one irl (uniform) outfit, right?

I'm trying to create a button up but it's been looking impossible with the closest being Musubi. But she doesn't have a very clean (aka messy and unbuttoned) collar

[spiral pendant]

yeah pretty sure it's just their Shujin outfits

[restive basalt]

Shoot

I can nab sleeves off of Ritsuka, but the problem is the main body part (the chest)

MASAKI

Duh

His work uniform

Thank you, aaron, for making something i've been wanting to do a reality

[restive basalt]

It's weird that the blush isn't even red or pink
It looks more skin tone

[random hornet]

yeah, when i put it over wonders face i could barely see it

[restive basalt]

There's so many interesting things this game does
Or at least I think so
And your findings satisfy my near inquenchable curiosity

Since getting into 3d and grasping some modding stuff (but being uninvolved), its opened up a pandora box. Whenever I play a game, I start to ask what they did to achieve a look and all sorts of other stuff

[random hornet]

oh ic,
for the shadow map, red channel is a mask for light, green channel is a mask for rimlight
the other 2 channels seem to do nothing

also outlines can use their own stroke texture but most materials seem to opt to just use a solid color

[restive basalt]

Yeah
I've played with the shadow map
For a more simplistic shadow, it's an option to just make the texture provided black and white

I used the dotstroke for Akashi when I was learning how to make outlines
I made a custom one for his hair, too (which isn't shown here)

The grid obscures the outline on his jacket tho

(The custom hair dotstroke)

[random hornet]

messed with eye shader more

[spiral pendant]

I'm curious as to what they've got going on with the face

[random hornet]

face_f seems to be like a normal map but only one component of it

[restive basalt]

it's a texture you bake into the normals of the model's face

It gives you that face shadow that changes in appearance according to things like camera angles, movement, light

[torn kindle]

i hate unity sm

[zinc dirge]

How do you do that?

[restive basalt]

No clue!
I just know because Morty told me

[restive basalt]

You're porting her animations as well?

[torn kindle]

yeah although it's not exactly going so well

[restive basalt]

Probably more for your mod thread

But yikes

[torn kindle]

i mean tbh it is to do w model exporting

bc asset studio just exports empties

[restive basalt]

True
But that's if you didn't build it and straight up exported it

And ercar used this when he exported the build holding the model

Become one of us morty
Don't fight it

[torn kindle]

oh my god

i didn't have all nodes cast to bone bc i had to reinstall asset studio mod bc i accidentally deleted it yesterday

[restive basalt]

Btw @random hornet
To save me some time, are Haru's assets in global?
For some reason Cherish's aren't, and he dropped before 3.0, same with Haru

[zinc dirge]

Here's tomoko in vrchat

rude that was supposed to be mp4

[random hornet]

noir_uniform is in global but not noir_thief

[restive basalt]

i checked but it was the other way around

thief was there, but not uniform

[random hornet]

there is the crossroads of fate model

but i think that one is a port

[restive basalt]

over to CN i go 😔 ....
well, i have to get mayumi and masaki from CN anyway
so i guess i'll get noir from there

[zinc dirge]

There we go

Wish I could make her look better but I'm still trying to figure out how to plug these textures in unity with the VRvhat shaders

[restive basalt]

yeah, i was gonna say
the pink looked awfully bright

i wonder how some people will react to seeing a p5x model, knowing how unpopular the game is

[zinc dirge]

That might be the world lighting

So what exactly are the mask textures for?

[restive basalt]

idk
probably some kind of look or effect like a mask on a regular piece of art

[zinc dirge]

I'm working on Berry what's the key for?

[restive basalt]

Her outfit

[zinc dirge]

Did it go somewhere specific or is it just an item she uses sometimes in her animations

[restive basalt]

no clue, tbh
i don't like Berry at all
the only thing i use related to her is this sticker

(tbh i love to use this in response to Akashi because the reactions are hilarious)

[zinc dirge]

I don't know to much as I stopped playing on TW around when she dropped/not on global yet

[restive basalt]

Jirai Kei girl

@random hornet does Haru use her thief animator for her normal outfit too? I don't see an animator for her normal outfit

[zinc dirge]

What does that mean?

[restive basalt]

it's sort of because she's jirai kei but not because i dislike jirai kei in particular
i just have bad memories of it due to negative association with somebody i really dislike

[restive basalt]

https://aesthetics.fandom.com/wiki/Jirai_Kei
https://j-fashion.fandom.com/wiki/Jirai_Kei

better to read for yourself than describe it here and get in trouble

[zinc dirge]

Was just reading that lol

[random hornet]

no there should be a noir_uniform.prefab

[restive basalt]

that's so weird
i guess i'll have to open the first 100 bundles again 💀

i saw noir_thief in the 100-199

her uniform mesh was all in 101-199 tho

i wish my comp could handle loading all the bundles instead of half

[random hornet]

maybe its not in a role_ bundle 🤔

which would be insane

[restive basalt]

i'd rip my hair out if it was a monobehavior

[random hornet]

well the asset list will list it as both an animator and a monobehavior

because entities have both

[restive basalt]

with ||shadow akashi|| (in global at least) he only had the monobehavior and not the animator
I had to jump into CN for that

[random hornet]

that still doesnt make any sense

i feel like you mustve missed something

[restive basalt]

i didn't
trust me, I didn't
if i missed it though, then that's literally insane

[random hornet]

idk why you guys look for the animator anyway

[restive basalt]

because it's separate from the mesh?

[random hornet]

as long as it has the main model prefab (i.e joker_thief.prefab) file its in that bundle

it doesnt matter if it has an animator or a monobehavior

[spiral pendant]

I just use the search bar and sort by type, so Animator is usually one of the first things I see

plus I don't trust it with how separated some of the parts seem to be sometimes

[restive basalt]

it is indeed a monobehavior

[restive basalt]

oh well, i have everything gathered, and that's what matters atm

[restive basalt]

sad face I can't use it 😔

it looks like I can't use the haru_uniform

[torn kindle]

i got it fine

[restive basalt]

i shall take that because I only need her for her shoes anyway

[restive basalt]

@random hornet this is weird
for some reason I can't get the bs to import

like i can add the assets

but when I add the prefab rig stuff, it doesn't grab the face
i intentionally didn't import the face with no blendshapes

i only need her face with blendshapes
maybe I missed a face rig prefab...?

[spiral pendant]

how up to date is this?

[restive basalt]

up to date
whenever I discover something or learn something, i update it

so it's always the same link, just updated every so often

[spiral pendant]

was just wondering because I don't see Ichigo on there

[zinc dirge]

Do we know what rainbow textures are for

[restive basalt]

oh! I thought this was the guide, my bad

yeah I need to add a few

Ichigo isn't hard to find, she just goes by 'berry' in the files

[spiral pendant]

yeah I just noticed when I saw her in Mortyy's fbx dump and was like "berry? who tf"

and didn't see it on there lol

[restive basalt]

sorry, just a little distracted since i'm datamining violet
I didn't get the pieces I wanted when I did it the first time
I missed something with her face

[spiral pendant]

all g, just wasn't sure if you were aware

[restive basalt]

beautiful.....
(i exported her so she had her shapekeys this time)

she doesn't have a lot of facial variety, unfortunately

[zinc dirge]

Lemme know if you find her weapon and gun and or persona lol

[restive basalt]

it literally should also be under berry

as for her persona, that's different

[spiral pendant]

the weapon and gun should still have her code name on it

it'll just be like berry_gun/weaponxx or something like that

[restive basalt]

her persona should just be the name of the persona, unless there's a little mispell

berry's persona is Thelxiepeia

[restive basalt]

usually the game tells you what star weapon it is (ex 02, 03, 04, 05)

[zinc dirge]

it's a pain to go through cuz my pc is so old loading more than 5 some times can freezers my computer

I'll do it myself but if you happen to come across any of them lemme know what folder they are in if not no problem

[spiral pendant]

I wasn't actually looking for her

just noticed she was missing from Neo's list thing

[zinc dirge]

oop lmao alright lol

[restive basalt]

i still need to add ||Shimotsuna's parents||, Ichigo, and the new Yui alt

[restive basalt]

cheekred asset is ass

it...doesn't blend quite smoothly with the skin?

regardless of color

[spiral pendant]

is that supposed to be Sumi?

[restive basalt]

Yes

I was looking at the shape keys
The original model of my self-insert used Sumi's face as a face claim
I'm not allowed to use the Dancing style Sumi head (from the creator themselves), so the face I made is just an attempt to look like a sumi face

Although I think I may change the face claim for my OC since now it looks....too cutesy? She's supposee to be cutesy, but this face now feels like overkill almost

[spiral pendant]

did they change her eye color or did you do that?

[restive basalt]

I did that

I changed it blue because my self-insert has them, so i wanted a look visually to better get an idea of the face and if i want to use it still

[zinc dirge]

I think it has a somewhat of a glow in the game but I don't remember

[fringe kite]

begging on my hands and knees please set it to standard

[restive basalt]

Lmao

[restive basalt]

(Ignore the weird color on the screenshots, it's a blue light filter app)
Lmao guys look 😭

It low key reads like a google ai overview
Wasn't Tactica ripped pretty quickly?

[torn kindle]

it’s ai

100% probably a scam

[random hornet]

oops sorry for ping astute

[restive basalt]

Morty teach us your ways
How do we bake that dumb sdf texture to the normals

[random hornet]

wdym by that

[restive basalt]

The black and white texture for the face that looks like a gradient
An sdf texture
You bake it into the normals of the face and it gives you that shadow on the face you see in game that changes depending on the angle

[fringe kite]

yes it's not encrypted

[keen grotto]

hi - is there anything you guys need pinned in this thread since it's looking pretty long at this point?

[random hornet]

this msg would be a good pin

[spiral pendant]

probably the scripts and maybe Mortyy's fbx dump too

[spiral pendant]

what is this outfit?

[random hornet]

the purple outfit and headband from her synergy

i assume

[spiral pendant]

yeah I just found it

did not know this was a thing that existed lol

[random hornet]

the game calls it "Cheer Uniform"

[spiral pendant]

good lord, Merope's bundles are a mess lol

[restive basalt]

😔 RIP makoto

meanwhile, Phoebe's arm with all the arm bones

i might have to default back to swimsuit motoha, if she ports with her arm twist bones

[restive basalt]

#1384172755804487811 message
#1384172755804487811 message
#1384172755804487811 message

[keen grotto]

fyi any verified modder should be able to pin messages

[restive basalt]

i didn't know that lol

i was just responding to what you said much earlier on haha

i didn't see it until literally now

@random hornet does swimsuit motoha use her thief prefab

[keen grotto]

yeah, I did offer to pin though so I did. just for future reference

[random hornet]

no its a seperate prefab

she uses a different animator

[restive basalt]

this one?

[random hornet]

it should be closer_thief_swimsuit.prefab

[restive basalt]

global fails me again

[random hornet]

also i have no idea what the illusion models are but they're not in global

[restive basalt]

hmmm i think at one point they introduced this mode where you could fight against phantom idols?

[random hornet]

that would explain the wind_enemy i saw

[restive basalt]

because there is a boss fight where you go against Yusuke

i can't remember if this happens for other phantom idols or if it was just some event

looks like there's also a summer tomoko and motoha fight

[random hornet]

well that lines up with these models

besides cherish and the persona models

[restive basalt]

awwwww, I found ||ant|| motoha

[restive basalt]

annnddd motoha is worse
i'm gonna have to get very creative
EDIT: swimsuit Marian my savior

[random hornet]

the self shadowing on the eyes is annoying but im not sure what can be done

[spiral pendant]

fyi, the AssetStudioMod link here is kinda old and doesn't have an actual release built

[torn kindle]

ooo this is gonna be useful

[zinc dirge]

What is it?

[restive basalt]

I believe that is the room in the museum crossfate where there's that golden statue of people piled atop one another

[restive basalt]

Should be fixed now

[torn kindle]

yusuke’s highlight

[restive basalt]

Oooo
Kinda close
Seeing how it's the same room

[torn kindle]

[restive basalt]

How do you even track down rooms? Do they have something in theie name specifically, like numbers?

I know ID wise it's useless since they don't follow the same logic as characters

Btw guys
Since we're bringing up other things aside from just exporting, do you think I should change the name of the thread again? Make it more like 'P5X exporting and game research'? Since aaron likes to post some of his findings in here. It might be better to make this a catchall thread for P5X in general

[torn kindle]

nah p5x model exportings fine

[random hornet]

i dont see the highlight_fox arena in confscene at least

i do see other highlights

[restive basalt]

maybe it's a shared model?

for all we know, it's used at another point

my only guess is that the collab and yusuke's highlight share this model
which does and doesn't make sense
it does because it's the same room, but doesn't because the statue in the museum chapter is different from the one in og p5
maybe they're banking on players not paying attention

[random hornet]

nah the scene in the collab is seperate

[restive basalt]

also, Morty, does separating the role and part files speed up the loading process?
only being able to load half of CN at a time is a pain 🗿

[torn kindle]

yeah it does

i was able to load them all at the same time

[torn kindle]

i found them in here

[random hornet]

the numbers what could they mean

just trying to write a parser for the zeusBundleManifest.txt as that seems like the biggest lead for how the game finds assets

[spiral pendant]

not me losing my mind wondering why I could not find Sumire's mask mesh anywhere

only to find out they still used her old uzuki name for a lot of her stuff xd

[torn kindle]

oh fun

[random hornet]

?

[restive basalt]

that should save me a lot of time
i shall now go invest in separating them

[restive basalt]

that's what i saw too

[spiral pendant]

[restive basalt]

@torn kindle part_ only being 10gb? this game truly is bloated

[torn kindle]

if it makes you feel any better it is they're compression is p good

but yeah i don't think im gonna be uploading the project i have anytime soon lmao

[restive basalt]

lol

i'm not complaining, just kinda going 'oh wow that's a fraction of 70gb, cool'

[restive basalt]

nengliang...

this has to be the sattelite (spl?) from the dam, right?

IT IS

this was completely on accident lmao
i clicked a name that looked like it may be notable and then searched that word and bam

[torn kindle]

if you could lob me every single one of kuichi's textures i will grately appreciate it

bc i have them from cbt1

and they changed the rug texture

[restive basalt]

tbh...i don't think they change or change much at all
his face texture looks very old
like katayama's before her texture upgrade

[torn kindle]

actually you know what

i might load up cbt1 in asset ripper

[restive basalt]

oh?

[torn kindle]

they changed a lot since then and i wonder if they removed some stuff or if there's other stuff that's further along in dev that didn't get seen in cbt 1