(P5R PC) Rose & Violet - Story overhaul

[hollow owl]

It may be due to my experience with love, but Ann and Futaba definitely give off lesbian/bi vibes

Kasumi can be whomever you want her to be

[molten finch]

Yeah that is true, as she's the Navigator there

[molten finch]

That's a good insight there

[molten finch]

Very valid~

[humble trail]

hmmm if Kasumi lore wise which male will she drift to?... i initially thought maybe she will lean towards akechi but that is before i found out who he really is.

[hollow owl]

Lore wise, she might lean towards Ryuji, both athletes, both had their careers crushed, they do have a good bit in common, and according to the writing, he’s very protective of her

[random hinge]

I'll have to see, it's still a long way off. It's also going to depend on wether Atlus decides to update the game again and break all the frameworks, on which case making it separate toggle would probably be best

[molten finch]

The Team I'ma go with in Rose & Violet~

Leader: Kasumi/Rose

2nd Member: Ann(The girl Kasumi romanced)

3rd Member: Character vs Palace Boss(Ryuji & Ann vs Kamoshida, Yusuke vs Madarame, Haru vs Okumura & ||Sumire vs Maruki||)

Last Member: Anyone who I feel like using

Just in case if I have to spoiler the last one lol...

[humble trail]

I really liked that Ann acted like Kasumi's older sister in the way she is written in RV

[molten finch]

Ooh same and also looking out for her and being a Girl's girl too 🙌

[hollow owl]

It makes me want to write my own fanfic of the ending for R&V

[humble trail]

Kasumi likely will return back to gymnastic with Sumire to achieve their dreams of reaching the world stage of Olympic.

[hollow owl]

Mhm that part I would love to write about

Maybe evn write about my version of Strikers

Since I know damn well a mod like that can never happen

[rich tree]

its to bad they never added kasumi or akechi to strikers via dlc like they did with tactica

yeah yeah i know strikers is post royal i still think he some how survived the ending says as much if you max his confidant

I enjoy strikers but leaving those two out was meh

[bitter walrus]

?

royal and strikers were in co-development

its a direct sequel to p5 it has nothing to do with royal

[rich tree]

they could have still added the content in as a dlc

[bitter walrus]

for what purpose

[rich tree]

i mean money? it would have sold well

[bitter walrus]

considering its a direct sequel akechi couldn't have been there either way

[hollow owl]

That is true, besides Sophia and gramps were great characters

[weary blaze]

im assuming there will be an optional toggle in rose and violet eventually for if you have the joker mod installed

also all the steam art so far

they are on steamgriddb

[spare oak]

i'm using the icon

it's peak

[rich tree]

my desktop icon

I couldn't find a better base picture >.<

[molten finch]

I'm now curious what desktop icon does PC/Steam use for P5R there 🤔

[hollow owl]

I’ve started of the fanfic

I’ll post it on ao3 once the first chapter is done

[faint elk]

I see why for mod purposes that her shoes will stay on.. but for real she would not have her shoes on.

[random hinge]

Yeah, it's material related, but the summer outfit (especially, the shoes) is quite different from the other models, so the shoes can't be taken off in events. I tried giving the right material properties to the shoes once, but that didn't work (I might have missed something though, that was a long time ago)

Update on the Summer dress : I have "fixed" a hole around the shoulder and it doesn't clip too much in overworld animations. There's a bit of clipping with the battle animations and I don't think that can be avoided without reworking the entire model

I've tested a white ribbon and it looks nice too. I've decided to add blue and white ribbon as separate options so you can pick which one you prefer

[rich tree]

that dress fits her so well

she's adorable

[granite wren]

Okay wow I think I might be team white ribbon

[pseudo dock]

It's the name of the object along with having the correct bones on the model.

for example this is ryuji.

[errant zenith]

His left foot looks off

[pseudo dock]

you'd have to either event edit or change the shoes/bone name to jokers for it to work correctly

[pseudo dock]

it's both sides

[errant zenith]

Ahhh ok I see

[random hinge]

I remember editing the shoe name, but not the bone. That might be it then

[pseudo dock]

It happens, it's also a event command so that could also be it.

[tribal scroll]

Yeah, it's the bone name:

Pherakki

This is one with the following node renames:

gi.bones[1].name = "shoe_1_c0002_72_low" # feet
gi.bones[2].name = "shoe_2_c0002_72_low" # shoes
gi.bones[4].name = "shoe_0" # body

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#Help understanding/figuring out MSSs in EVT file

[pseudo dock]

Oh yeah, that was a thread at one point.

[rain sundial]

A lot of experiments in there if you're up for a scroll, lol.

[pseudo dock]

lol

[random hinge]

The feet are missing faces. I think I'm going insane

[pseudo dock]

You can take the feet from the 2nd awakening where she's nude.

[random hinge]

They're the only feet that fit the sandals, ahah

[pseudo dock]

I can do it rq I think

[random hinge]

Alright, I'll add the missing faces

[pseudo dock]

could I have the model?

[random hinge]

Sure

[pseudo dock]

thank you

[random hinge]

Now that I think about it, the regular summer casual outfit is like that too

[pseudo dock]

I don't think it uses the feet stuff though.

[random hinge]

Well, I can edit it to make it use the feet stuff

It will also have the holes below the feet too

[pseudo dock]

Try this out. I filled out the feet.

[random hinge]

Thanks, works perfectly!

[pseudo dock]

awesome, and np. Glad it worked out.

[random hinge]

Do you think you could do the same for the regular summer outfit?

[pseudo dock]

sure just send me the model and i'll do iy.

[random hinge]

Thanks! Here you go

I haven't renamed the bone/shoes in this one yet

[pseudo dock]

I can do that no problem,

[random hinge]

If you want, I can do it too if you don't want to bother

[pseudo dock]

Nah should be easy

Did you make new shoe bones or did you rename old ones?

[random hinge]

I think I reassigned the bone to shoe_0_0010_001 in the drop down menu

Oh

It's possible it's not here in that model

[pseudo dock]

Yeah I thought so. But I wanted to make sure before I copy pasted the bones from the other model.

[random hinge]

Yeah, it's not

It was available in the dress model because I used the Summer uniform (which has the shoes thing) for the black part under the dress

And I removed the feet to attach the feet from the Summer casual

[pseudo dock]

Makes sense

[pseudo dock]

here you go. I had to reexport the other model you sent because I fucked up the topology a bit. (1) is this one i'm replying to and the other one is the first model you sent. Should all work now.

[random hinge]

Thanks!

I'll test them to make sure everything's working fine

[pseudo dock]

np, glad to help🫡

[buoyant arch]

damn cross comin in clutch

[pseudo dock]

so true

[humble trail]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LMgvJyqugwDy09XVG6O_2qrITb950YIN8MlYYpfcoV4/edit?tab=t.0, Someone actually wrote the beginning of RV in case you dont understand the starting plot well.

thansk to Johnnyboy306

[lethal geode]

Could you send me a Sumire version of this as well?

[pseudo dock]

sure one sec

[lethal geode]

not with the long hair specifically just the face and hair swapped out for ponytail sumire

[hollow owl]

The writing will only encompass events of 3/20 onwards with reflections from the past year

[random hinge]

Everything's working perfectly, as far as my testing goes. Again, thanks a lot!

[pseudo dock]

Nice, and np again.

Also mb, had stuff to do. Working on the model now./

@lethal geode I forgot that the model breaks when you import it into blender. Do you have a version that doesn't?

[lethal geode]

hmm

not tmk since that's just the vanilla model

@random hinge how did you get yours to import correctly

[surreal ermine]

holy jesus

[pseudo dock]

yeah lol

[random hinge]

Importing with Scaleless Rest Pose and Connect Child Bones used to work on my old PC

[surreal ermine]

I think I would die if I was editing models at night

[random hinge]

But it no longer works for me now

However

[pseudo dock]

oh yeah right, they broke it.

[random hinge]

The models in my model mod are spared for some reason

So you can always use them as basis and replace the face/hair/eyes with Sumire's

I can help with that

[pseudo dock]

Alright

[random hinge]

Just make sure the material for the face is kao01 and the eyes is eye01

I recommend renaming the material, not reassigning it because it will also swap the textures if it's a copy (with a 001 or sthg)

[lethal geode]

If you do just please be sure to delete any duplicate textures

Just try and match it up to vanilla as best as possible, I don't want a bunch of bloat

[random hinge]

Yeah, I have a script

[lethal geode]

By vanilla I do mean the vanilla summer casual, including retaining the names of textures and materials

[random hinge]

Here, the ponytail variant

Can you try importing it, see if it works for you?

[pseudo dock]

i'll try

[peak drift]

She’s so beautiful

[pseudo dock]

yeah this works

[random hinge]

It should be possible for you or Wisteria to make the long hair variant then

[pseudo dock]

i'll put the feet on her then i'll send it back

[random hinge]

= if you export, it shouldn't break again

Oh, it has the feet already

[pseudo dock]

oh nvm you already did that lol

[random hinge]

I used the one you sent me and swapped the face/hair

[pseudo dock]

ah okay

[random hinge]

I can do the long hair version too, if you want Wisteria. Probably tomorrow because it's getting late for me

[lethal geode]

yeah that would be great, thanks

[lethal geode]

ty!

[random hinge]

Here, I've also replaced the chunk with the one you're using (I'm still using the ponytail chunk in my models).

I have a version with the ponytail chunk if you need it

[lethal geode]

Awesome, tysm

[humble trail]

guys anyone knows what is that music name when you don the moonlight outfit for KAsumi? the one with lightblue stripes at the sleeve

[lethal geode]

our moment from P3 iirc

[errant zenith]

It’s party night

[marble saffron]

i'm about halfway through my first run and this is a peak mod
one question: any advances on the other romances (like takemi, etc)? I'm wondering if I should put the game on hold and wait for them to be updated if they're on the horizon or just finish this run if they're not the priority atm

[spare oak]

no adult romances have changes that matter

[marble saffron]

yeah no i was asking if they'll be added

and if they'll be added soon - just so i can decide whether to just go through with my run without the adult romances or wait

[spare oak]

They will never be added

afaik

[rich tree]

correct no plans to change the adult romances

last i heard

[marble saffron]

ooh gotcha

then i guess i'll just continue my run

[mossy marlin]

Now that I think about it. Don't you guys think for Sumire and "Kasumi"s SHOWTIME? The Model for Kasumi as her regular Leotard, should be regular Playable MC Kasumi?

Maybe that's possible by swapping the Actor Models with the MC actor?

[gaunt juniper]

I found another instance of the extra "s" at the end of advice. This is during the event where the player meets up with Akechi and Sumire at a café.

[random hinge]

I've tried and I just can't find where that model is, unfortunately. Also, I haven't found a reliable way to test showtimes, so this is taking a long time everytime

I'm sure that model is burried into an EPL or something

[radiant plume]

you could always view showtimes from thieves den

[random hinge]

Thanks, I'll fix that as well

[radiant plume]

idk if those are prerendered or not

but they're there

[random hinge]

They're pre-rendered

[radiant plume]

oh right

the mouse cursor in morgana/ann's

i should've realized

[random hinge]

You can imagine my disappointment

[lethal geode]

its in an epl

i did actually extract the violet showtime before epl give me a sec

its SP_ATTACK_01_10

in BASE.CPK\BATTLE\EVENT\BCD\SP_ATTACK

including SP_ATTACK_01_10_BOSS and SP_ATTACK_01_10_END

iirc its a really easy replacement

pretty sure her model should just be a gfs/gmd inside the epl

although

they do use a texture briefly

so you'd have to recreate this with a render

she's so smug here i love it

[radiant plume]

smugsumi

[lethal geode]

her model is in the item folder for some reason, SP_ATTACK_01_10\motion\item\sister\kasumi(honmono)

also recreating that render should be very easy

you should just be able to take the first frame of her animation

[radiant plume]

smh my head
atlus seeing women as an object

[lethal geode]

the only thing that sucks abt her model is that its like

the origin point is really... interesting

[radiant plume]

is that ant in the corner her

what's that in the middle

[lethal geode]

the origin point platform

https://tenor.com/view/1617blues-you-weird-nervous-laugh-suffering-gif-22969165

???

why is her rest position already posed

kasumi im watching your stream

[radiant plume]

atlus really went all out when designing gymnast characters lol

[lethal geode]

ok her model is just omega broken in blender

[radiant plume]

they even gave her the toe cover things that gymnasts wear

[lethal geode]

you either get creature #1 or Entity

[radiant plume]

that's my sumi

[lethal geode]

i love the attention to detail sm 😭😭😭

heres smug kasumi in all her glory for those that celebrate

[radiant plume]

she has a lightsaber i just realized

[radiant plume]

where is this even used at 😭

[lethal geode]

iirc when she first appears in the eye thing in the showtime

true

[radiant plume]

so they overlay smugsumi.png over her model???

[lethal geode]

kinda

they zoom the png inwards and then transition to her model

ig they thought it'd look awkward if her legs were visible

[radiant plume]

i mean you don't really see the legs of kasumi or sumire in her showtime afaik

[lethal geode]

im almost positive this isnt how it looks in royal but

[radiant plume]

so smol

[lethal geode]

OHHH

i get why now

sumire isnt in the epl ofc so she doesnt appear here

but it transitions to sumire's eye with kasumi in it

[radiant plume]

yeah i just watched that same video and went frame by frame

that's hilarious

[lethal geode]

they probably pngified her so she'd blend into the eye better

[radiant plume]

BUT WHY DID THEY MAKE HER SO SMUG IS MY QUESTION

[lethal geode]

[radiant plume]

real smooth transition there lol

oh that's interesting

kasumi freezes in her location for an extra frame before sumire stops moving

[lethal geode]

huh, guess gfstools 0.3 really did break scaleless rest pose

works fine on 0.2.1

she does import correctly with scaleless rest pose on gfstools v0.2.1 but i got an error while importing and this model just seems like a cursed mess

[radiant plume]

the forbidden girl

[lethal geode]

shrimply changing the armature to this one should maybe work though

true...

[lethal geode]

nvm

i wouldnt even bother with this model its cursed

kasumi watch out purple Girl is going to kill you

[spare oak]

why she ourple

[lethal geode]

so true

at least this version of gfstools can export the models broken by v0.3's scaleless rest pose regression which will then import correctly in v0.3

this should apply to this model but i cant get the face and legs to export with it

nvm got it

gmd if you wanna take a crack at it @random hinge

I JUST WANT MY FRIES BRO

[radiant plume]

that ankle

she needs surgery i think it's broken

[lethal geode]

she stepped on a lego

[random hinge]

Thank you very much! I'll see if I can do something with it because it looks a bit more complicated than what I usually do, since I don't have much experience with Blender besides making the alternate models

[faint elk]

That's so smug lmao.

[pseudo dock]

If you turn on bitflag 11540, you get guaranteed showtimes on each turn. So that can help with testing.

[mossy marlin]

Take as much time as you need. <3

[random hinge]

I can definitely live with that. Thanks!

[pseudo dock]

np

[molten finch]

So I was wondering, do you have the original with the art, Logo & R&V Logo with Clean HD by any chance? 👀

Would like to use it for wallpaper as a favorite there~

[random hinge]

I have this one

[molten finch]

Ahh well do you have the one that has just the red background, art, p5r logo & rose & violet title logo for the wallpaper or no? 😅

Just wondering to know

[surreal ermine]

I'm still so impressed by your edits zylvos

do you have a drawing tablet?

[random hinge]

This?

[molten finch]

Ooh yes that's the one ❤️

Oh wait your typing, i'll wait 😅

[random hinge]

Thanks! No, I don't draw at all. I basically edit this stuff with paint.net and I don't even use the magic brush because it's sloppy.
When I need to add stuff like Sumire's hair or her glasses her, I take 3D models or pieces of other artworks. I edit them a bit to make them fit with the rest of the image

[molten finch]

And it's clean HD one right? Just want to make sure 😅

[random hinge]

It's a png from the image I used to make the thumbnail with no rescalling, so as HD as I can provide

The "Rose & Violet" looks a bit blurry though

[molten finch]

Ahh alright, ty so much ❤️

[molten finch]

Ripp

[warm sand]

Anyone who has finished a playthrough, any changes made to the "cheating confrontation" scene? My gay ass cant decide on who I'm romancing 😭

[surreal ermine]

still impressive lol. my hand is way too shaky for much of anything

[lethal geode]

Asked the mod dev and they sent a test femulator build, seems to work perfectly with R&V

i dont have my date displayed rn but it didnt take up time

[random hinge]

The Timeless Twins mod only edits CORP011, so the field dialogues are impacted, not the event with the twins

If you talk to the twins in front of the Velvet Room or to Lavenza, you'll still get Joker dialogues

I don't remember if the dialogues to start the boss fight are in that file too There's certainly the dialogues for the last day in it

Regardless, I can move that file to the CF folder to be ready for compatibility

[lethal geode]

CF folder?

Why would it need to be in there

[random hinge]

https://discordapp.com/channels/746211612981198989/1360687163901087901/1402616013194788895

That's how I managed to make the Select Jazz Club Drink mod compatible with R&V

[lethal geode]

oh

its because cf is broken lmfao

was wondering why i couldnt get bf emulator to work with it

actually no if you're just moving the full bf file in then its a different issue

its probably because its being added via crifs bind

characters folder uses crifs bind

which is why you have to use the bind command in config menu's mod.cs if you want to say overwrite a file in the characters folder

its (probably) intended behavior since that would be outside of p5r.modloader

[random hinge]

That's quite handy in my case. I just have to move some files and I can make R&V compatible

[naive aspen]

The shadow in the Lady-Killer's Ballad requests has a move that mind controls all female party members, it seems like this isn't working on the protagonist though since it always misses. Is this a bug or intentional?

[spare oak]

intentional

the possibility your whole team being female atp is there which would be kind of annoying

[granite wren]

And it's tricky to do for low payoff

same with Kamoshida Lick

[random hinge]

Intentional, like mentioned above
Also, I don't know how to change that

[naive aspen]

ah thanks guys

[rich tree]

I would skip that fight in my case for this reason alone

[spare oak]

yeah it would just be boring not even like

strategically thought provoking

[rich tree]

always hated that fight even un modded it still forced a party change

having it affect the whole group would be even worse

[gaunt juniper]

Ok, I'm in the middle of putting Kasumi in one of the final pictures that Joker is still in and wanted to get the opinion of everyone on the size of Kasumi. I'm using the New Year's picture of Joker and Sumire as height reference. Any opinions in general would be helpful. Opinions on posing and such.

[rich tree]

I believe kasum is 5'4 and joker is 5'9 if that helps

I remember seeing a height chart

[gaunt juniper]

I know sitting is going to make that height a little closer together since there legs won't be taken into consideration due to sitting.

[rich tree]

goro is 5'10

and kasumi is 5'4

so hes an inch taller then joker maybe a bit more with hair

[weary blaze]

Is that an unused model

[rich tree]

i think that pink leotard is the one she wears in her rank 10 confidant

if i remember right

pretty its available as a costume in metaverse

[weary blaze]

Ahh okay assumed it unused bc of how broken that looks

[lethal geode]

nope, its from the violet x joker (or violet x rose) showtime

[molten finch]

Favorite Battle Sprite pose for Kasumi/Rose, a lot fitting for her there~

[rich tree]

its better with epic panel color

[molten finch]

Ooh yeah what does the epic panel color look like for her by any chance?

[rich tree]

gloves are red when shes selected in battle

[radiant plume]

this is just sumi's in the base game tho...

[rich tree]

it's sakura leotard in game

[weary blaze]

Ohh okay

[weary blaze]

Do the models actually have accurate heights

[molten finch]

ahh I see, best in color there~

[molten finch]

eh it still fits Kasumi/Rose anyway lol

[radiant plume]

if not exactly accurate, pretty close

[weary blaze]

Ahh okay

[gaunt juniper]

Typo in the phone call at the end of Akechi's Rank 3.

[rich tree]

I must be tired im not seeing it?

[rich tree]

I mean its a game so unless its ever said in game I would guess people are using in game object as reference points to get close

again this is just fandom stuff found online so it could very well be fluff

[weary blaze]

Usually characters heights get listed in like art books and stuff and then sourced to wikis from there

[rich tree]

ok its likely acurate then

i mean atlus loves its details on some stuff

and yeah the official wikia has goro listed at 5'10

and kasumi is the same 5'4 so yeah there acurate

[lean sky]

I love how this mod recontextualizes sumire’s showtime from an expression of her grief to the ultimate sibling team up judgement cut

[surreal ermine]

adjustments not adjustements

[weary blaze]

Loool

[random hinge]

Thanks! I'm also changing this phone call a bit thanks to the feedback and I still missed that one, ahah

[faint elk]

I am getting back into this mod again so i can finish it off. (First it was Fortnite.. then it was Persona 5 X.. then it was Destiny 2.. THEN it was Borderlands 4.. and THEN it was the revival of The Crew.) I had a lot of games under my plate..

[rich tree]

i stopped playing borderlands after the 2nd one havent played one since and given the CEO's recent behavior and what I hear of it id rather not

im also poor and broke lol

its to bad me and a good friend of mine have over 600 hours total in BL2 we played the hell out of it lol

and wait they revived the crew?

i think ubisoft yoinked my copy though

[faint elk]

Well sorta. There is a Crew Revival server named The Crew Unlimited that you can download right now.

[faint elk]

Was it on Steam?

[rich tree]

i think so

let me check

yeah nvm I have it on steam

so someone made new servers?

[faint elk]

Yes.

Only Offline for now.

[rich tree]

eh if it works at least

[faint elk]

And you need the game files.

[faint elk]

Oh it works.

[rich tree]

well i grew bored after a month of horizon 5

and they killed support for 4

so I may have to reinstall crew

[faint elk]

Yeah you have to reinstall it. Tbh it's really the best Crew game because i really really really didn't like 2.

[north osprey]

Honestly every borderlands fan and Gearbox fan knows that randy is a moron who has been causing trouble since Duke Nukem Forever

BL3 he left porn on a USB in public and assaulted the old claptrap VA

best you ignore his actions if you do buy the games

I will give randy this he was gonna get Voltion going again when Gearbox took them in....just before Embracer ripped them right out and closed Voltion for good

[rich tree]

I protest by not giving him money

I tried 3 and wasn't impressed

the prequel had at least a little promise but my favorite is 2

[humble trail]

and still no news on persona 6....

[bitter walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-konata-smug-smile-oho-gif-22649327

[hollow owl]

oke, posted ch 1 it encompasses 3/20

[molten finch]

Love how Kasumi with long hair looks in the AoA portrait so decided to put them together

As used this pic to put them together, which still need to put em together next whenever I get on my CPU lol

[tidal glacier]

On 1/2 currently, can’t wait to see the new changes for 3rd semester.

[errant zenith]

Side by side

[hollow owl]

That'd be super cool

[molten finch]

Err were you talking to me by any chance? Lol

[hollow owl]

mhm

[molten finch]

Ohh okay yeah, I was confused if your talking to me or someone else at first lol

[hollow owl]

Have yall seen the sumi art with her celebrating Cinco de Mayo/wearing Mexican themed dresses

?

[humble trail]

for Kasumi i still prefer this

[faint elk]

I HATED 3.

[rich tree]

3 was yeah I don't even really have words for that mess

[raw marlin]

Style and class with this one

[spare oak]

yes

[faint elk]

Not even the DLCS were enough to save my scorn. Some people say 3 is better than 2 but that's because of it's gameplay. I don't mind bad stories but 3 i just felt insulted by the MIDDLE of the game. Some of it was good i will admit but.. still.. i hated it in the end.

[faint elk]

Not yet.

[spare oak]

I've seen like every sumi fan art ever on twitter

[hollow owl]

Those art works were super cute

[hollow owl]

Might not be the best edit but it looked nice

[errant zenith]

Oh wow it’s so cute

[hollow owl]

I also made another with Kasumi doing the Miku pose

I use GIMP so have a crap ton of abilities

[errant zenith]

I gotta see

[molten finch]

Kasumi/Rose with AoA Peace Sign Pose~ 🙌

[hollow owl]

This is the other

[errant zenith]

It looks nice

[hollow owl]

GIMPS transform function bring certain 2d layers and gives them depth

Even the small amount can make it look eye appealing

I'm glad y'all like them

Just tried them as grids for the games background, looks really good

[rapid mural]

still convalescing but which do yall like better for a tablet? paint.net or gimp? Its a android. If I could hack in stylus support for mspaint I would just use that.

[random hinge]

Fun fact of the day: I wrote the first draft of Rose & Violet exactly one year ago today.

Well, technically, I had been working a personal patch for She/Her Joker a few days before in an attempt to make it compatible with the original story overhaul. After tinkering with some files, I figured I could try making my own story overhaul with the idea of keeping Sumire around, and here you go!

I only made a full reveal of this project 3 months after because I wanted to be sure I could finish it, or at least release something that was mostly finished. The scope was much smaller at first (no event editing, mostly light edits...) and it took me quite some time to figure out how to edit files without crashing the game.

I'm quite fortunate Wisteria decided to resume working on this mod around the same time. Joelcula's mods were already fixing some animations and adding the missing voicelines, so that gave me a lot of motivation to keep working on the mod. It really made everything more enjoyable, even when I was testing stuff.

[buoyant arch]

happy birthday then

[surreal ermine]

happy birthday rose and violet

[weary blaze]

gotta flex my new personas

[rich tree]

Happy birthday you and everyone involved are amazing and did amazing work

[molten finch]

Happy Birthday to Rose & Violet~~

[unkempt hearth]

Really sorry this was late. I forgot to send it yesterday 😢

Characters > Joker > 1 > BATTLE > GUI for the default black iirc

[humble trail]

hapy BD R&V and Zylvos is the GOAT

[molten finch]

Kinda love how it turned out as putted em like a puzzle pieces of full pics together~ ☺️
(as tooked a while to line them up together)

JPG ver:

PNG File ver

[hollow owl]

Oh that’s what you were doing

[molten finch]

Yup~✌️

[humble trail]

Zylvos you going to integrate this into RV? the new AOA portrait

[humble trail]

Zylvos i think there is a typo here sint the name still be Sumire?

[spare oak]

i saw that too but thought it was a me problem

[humble trail]

just le ya know

[static ermine]

gonna update my R&V modset to play the offical version of the mod

Not sure if i need to deleate the old unreleased version from my files i havent touch this mod in over awhile

[spare oak]

delete the old version and the cheat sheets

[static ermine]

kk thanks

[spare oak]

and get the release version of kasumi as protagonist

just get the release version of everything actually

[spare oak]

[static ermine]

oh so do i purged everything i downloaded and download stright from game banana?

[spare oak]

probably

[static ermine]

kk thank you

[static ermine]

kept getting stuck in a download loop but it finally got sorted i think

anything else i should get/redownload?

[spare oak]

alternate model mod

whichever you prefer

or none if you want to go red hair i guess

[static ermine]

Thanks

[spare oak]

if there's any trouble launching the game lmk i think i could help

[static ermine]

Do i need to redownload the female audio thing or is that now packaged with R&V automatically now?

[spare oak]

oh you can if you want

it's kinda ass at times

[static ermine]

got it and the female voiced protag mod as well

took a bit for me to reaslized the voice protag mod was not enabled XD

do i need to move anything or sort anything or is it good as is?

Ok may have downloaded the wrong one it doesn't even sound lile Kasumi XD

[spare oak]

oh yea kasumi over joker voice patch

is still required

[static ermine]

Ah

I miss remembered the name

XD

Thank you

Ok everything seems to be working perfectly!

Thank you for the help!

[spare oak]

yay

[random hinge]

@spare oak @humble trail The issue with Sumire's name in this event was fixed in the latest update

[errant zenith]

Tis true

[random hinge]

So you might be running an older version

[humble trail]

What about that new AOA Johesy? You integrating to RV?

[random hinge]

Oh, right. I'll see what I can do

That update is taking me so much more time because I keep adding stuff like that

[humble trail]

Take your time

[lethal geode]

not sure how many people used shut up sae but it is now compatibile with rose & violet https://gamebanana.com/mods/441228

[raw marlin]

✋

[opal umbra]

awh heck yeah finally

[faint elk]

They are funny.. also.. IT WILL BE EASY IF WE LOOK INTO THIS YOU KNOW?

[rich tree]

who wants to miss out on the table slamming fun lol

but yeah I am going to use it now that its compatable

[faint elk]

I would have used Timeless Twins but i wanted to play this on launch..

[surreal ermine]

same lol

I'm already on the third semester at this point

[molten finch]

This can be nice to use when one wants to Replay Rose & Violet playthrough again 👀

[rich tree]

like me

i replay p5 quite a bit due to it being a game I can relax in

[spare oak]

I saw it a while ago

[molten finch]

Yup!

[hollow owl]

You know what I wish, that you could replay certain bosses

[rich tree]

thats something strikers did that I enjoyed

[spare oak]

unless the bosses suck ass like p5x

[hollow owl]

True

[molten finch]

Looking at someone's playthrough video out of bored-ism, I wonder if Kasumi will be able to join the girls at the banana boat there.. 🤔

EDIT: oh wait, nevermind she doesn't join the guys there but the girls instead lol

[spare oak]

i think she does lol this might be outdated

[hollow owl]

Yeah

[magic magnet]

She do

[hollow owl]

That is super outdated

[molten finch]

Ohh yeah I guess that person is using an old R&V ver

[magic magnet]

Tbh I love both

[molten finch]

I'm glad that got updated to Kasumi joining the Banana Boat with the girls lol

[magic magnet]

The idea of her picking up girls is funny 😂

[hollow owl]

lol

[molten finch]

For sure lol and

Gotta love Kasumi wearing a Bow Ribbon on her hairstyle as love seeing FeMC wearing their hairstyle in a Ribbon Bow 🎀

[hollow owl]

Even when she wears braids with a ribbon is a nice touch

[molten finch]

Ooh yeah, love that long hair with braid hairstyle with a ribbon for her too ❤️🎀

[weary blaze]

What’s the thing in the corner

[molten finch]

What corner?

[hollow owl]

The Kasumi png in the corner

?

[weary blaze]

Yea

What’s it for

[hollow owl]

Idk, probably something the streamer did

[weary blaze]

Ahh

[molten finch]

Ohh that

Maybe as in their VTuber Avatar thingy they use

[hollow owl]

^that

[molten finch]

Yeah!

[hollow owl]

So what ng+ are y’all on with the mod?

[magic magnet]

5

[hollow owl]

Nice, I finished my 3rd

[limber ember]

This isn't exactly a complaint, but everytime I log in here, there's always 25+ new messages.

[coral prawn]

i don't play ng+ so 0 lmao

[rich tree]

i think this is my 6th now

i know I did 3 back when I was helping with testing pre build

then again because i was testing the mod i had about 12 saves spread over a few in game months

[errant zenith]

cute kasumi on the bottom left

[molten finch]

Yup it's the YouTuber/Streamer that's doing the playthroughs of Rose & Violet that uses the Kasumi avi as their VTuber rn

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUT8kbSKvTwgV6tUGTD4oZ9JeSBXVu8BJ&si=XvJaQuIolKtMPHUC

[errant zenith]

thats awesome

[molten finch]

Yup lol

[warm sand]

I just spent the last 20 minutes trying to figure out what was going on with my mods because my projector that I'm using apparently cranks the red in her hair. Didn't think about the fact that the mole was still there

[buoyant arch]

huh, that's weird

for some reason her eyes are not redder

well I suppose I did use a red-ish brown for her hair in the portrait

but damn, that is RED

[surreal ermine]

playing on a projector sounds awesome

[molten finch]

Pretty cool to see Rose & Violet being played on a projector there 👀

[warm sand]

It rocks. 1000% recomed getting a projector over a tv as a collage student. So much more versatile and you can do stuff like this, where you have giant screen

[warm sand]

Yeah, but if I screenshot it, perfectly fine

[molten finch]

Me saving up for a Steam Deck just so can play Rose & Violet on the go~

[warm sand]

I'm also looking into a steam deck right now for portable rose and violet lol

But disposable income? What's that

[spare oak]

Impossible

[molten finch]

Ripp

[errant zenith]

bro's ready

[surreal ermine]

https://gamebanana.com/mods/621379 red kasumi is real

@molten finch

[molten finch]

omg yes, I'ma take a look rn~

[molten finch]

Red Hair and Red Eyes on Kasumi/Rose looks gorgeous on her, hope you do the models or bustups from the cutscenes in Maruki's Palace whenever you have the time ❤️

[surreal ermine]

yeah when i figure out bustup editing heh

[molten finch]

Yee 🙌

[peak drift]

Probably just the RGB levels in your projector then. Everything looks hella saturated. Notice the eyes are a different shade. They have yellow undertones therefore they don’t look more red like the hair does, but are still different from the screenshot.

Even akechi’s hair has an oranger tint

[warm sand]

Yeahhh, unsurprised a projector doesn't have the best color accuracy

[gaunt juniper]

This is my current progress on this photo. I was wondering if I could get feedback on how it looks before I continued moving forward. I've been struggling to get a pose that I felt was natural but still felt like Kasumi. Which has felt difficult with how little room this picture gave Joker.

[red panther]

looking good! ❤️

[warm sand]

I think the pose you have looks perfect. Definitely her vibes

[errant zenith]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[granite wren]

"Make your next move"

Rose, considering the correct piece to eat when Akechi isn't looking:

[rich tree]

looks perfect to me

[errant zenith]

Rook looks like a cookie

[still raven]

sorry, can someone look at my mod list and see if anything's wrong?

i tried following the one zylvos posted, but i'm not too sure what's going on since I'm facing an error with the models. for some reason, pixie didn't show up when I leveled it up

[random hinge]

Sure, go ahead

[still raven]

Sorry that the quality sucks, this is in my deck-

[random hinge]

Do you have "PSZ models" enabled in Custom Bonus Tweaks?

[still raven]

lemme check real quick

yep it's enabled

.....wait, was it supposed to be disabled 😲

[random hinge]

No, keep it enabled

[still raven]

okay, phew-

[random hinge]

I'm not seeing anything wrong with your load order at first glance

[still raven]

stares m maybe i should verify my files?

[random hinge]

You said Pixie is missing after level up? You mean there's no model showing?

Does it softlock you?

[still raven]

yeah it softlocked me

[random hinge]

Or crash your game?

[still raven]

pixie's model didn't show up, so i couldn't progress at all

the game kept playing, but it softlocked me. i had to turn the game off 😭

[random hinge]

Does it happen during the tutorial? When you fight the Pixie for the negotiation tutorial?

[still raven]

no, this was after the negotiation tutorial

you know the first enemy that appears after you get pixie? that one

[random hinge]

When you'e asked to swap to Pixie to kill the enemy that's weak the electricity?

Or after?

[still raven]

oh my bad, the one after that

it's the one where you can move freely after the negotiation and switching to pixie

[random hinge]

Okay, so it's not during a scripted part of the game

Humm

[still raven]

maybe it's the multiplier mod that I added?

the only mods that I know that effect battle exclusively is either yours (storywise and gameplay), wisteria's (model), and that mod (exp after)

and i doubt its yours and wisteria's thats causing the problem, it worked perfectly before

[random hinge]

You could try disabling it and playing that part again

I'm looking into the mods to see if there's an incompatibility

[still raven]

okay, i'll try and also see if its also just my game too

verifying the files might fix the issue too; i know my game updated a while ago, but i could be missing some resources

CRIES i forgot that i have to go ALLL the way back and go back to that pixie fight, and i last saved before the ||volleyball showcase||

skips everything

[random hinge]

Oh, yeah

Make a save at the entrance

In case it crashes again

[still raven]

i will say though, after validating my files, the model situation I had at the opening now fully works

i'll reach that point and save, and see if I can get that error again

[errant zenith]

Dood the day custom cutscenes get added is gonna be so peak

[random hinge]

If you crash during level up, it's possible it's the exp the mod I'd say

[still raven]

the game is punishing me for trying to cheat

[random hinge]

At the opening? You mean when starting the game?

[still raven]

yeah, I had to restart my game a few times

you know the opening portion of the title screen with the buildings, and kasumi (in this case) would swing in?

the game softlocks me during the part where the buildings are passing by quickly, so i have to restart

[random hinge]

Oh

I see, that was your post on Wisteria's thread

[still raven]

yeah, the models were missing, so i first thought it was the mod being weird on me

which again, shouldn't, since it worked before

[random hinge]

Alright, try again with the exp mod disable

But the models at the start and the persona models are also in CBT

So it could be your install of CBT

Because you were able to start the game since it didn't pick the start models that are in CBT

Anyway, try the thing with Pixie

This could be enough to confirm my suspicions

[still raven]

lemme try a clean re-install of cbt first

cause I do recall my wifi being iffy at the time when I was redownloading the mods

[random hinge]

If you stil haven't deleted it, do you have that folder
p5r_custom_bonus_tweaks_reloaded2_6_9\OptionalModFiles\PSZMODELS.CPK\CPK\MODEL\CHARACTER\PERSONA\0006

With two .GMD files in it?

[still raven]

.
my bad, i just deleted it-

[random hinge]

Alright, no worries

[still raven]

but let me see if the clean re-install has it

[random hinge]

Go ahead with the reinstall

Check if you have GMD files in that folder too:
p5r_custom_bonus_tweaks_reloaded2_6_9\P5REssentials\CPK\CBT.CPK\MODEL\CHARACTER\0004

[still raven]

💀 i forgor how problematic it is to find things on reloaded on my deck

one momento-

[rich tree]

out of curiosity do we need those two gmd files

because i have them

[random hinge]

Yes, you need PSZ models enabled

[rich tree]

then ill leave it alone

[random hinge]

It prevents you from being softlocked if the persona models are missing

Why it happens? No idea

[still raven]

sorry, that took me a bit

yep it's all there

lemme check 0006 now

yep there's two gmd files in there too

[random hinge]

p5r_custom_bonus_tweaks_reloaded2_6_9\OptionalModFiles\PSZMODELS.CPK\CPK\MODEL\CHARACTER\PERSONA\0006
It's not the same folder

[still raven]

💀

my bad, i checked the wrong path

[random hinge]

Just the be safe :
0004 has two files. One is named c0004_048_01.GMD

0006 has two files. One is named psz0006.GMD

If you have files in those folders, all good

Make sure PSZ Models is still enabled, and try again

You should see the Phantom Thieves with different outfits (or colors) in the title screen for starters

[still raven]

okay can confirm;

0004 under persona essentials has the listed file and the other one c0004_048_02.GMD

0006 under optional has the listed file and the other one pszx0006.GMD

psz models meanwhile has been automatically enabled

[random hinge]

Okay then

Try again then

[lethal geode]

for future reference avoid deleting mod files at all costs

unless instructed to

i would say just redownload cbt

[still raven]

yeah, i only just deleted it now-
i think it probably didn't dl all the way, my wifi was being weird at that time

[lethal geode]

for most mods its not a big deal but for code mods like cbt that call for those models it'll softlock

[still raven]

okay i turned off the multiplier too, i'll see if it softlocks again

[random hinge]

Make a save before and try with/without the exp multiplier

It'll be good to know if there's something wrong with that mod too

Though I think it was CBT in your case

[still raven]

aye aye captain 🫡

[lethal geode]

exp multiplier should be fine

[rich tree]

it does sound like something went wrong with cbt

[lethal geode]

im pretty sure it just patches at runtime

[still raven]

the way i held my breath when the opening sequence came up OTL
okay, opening is all good--i'll speedrun to the first infiltration with ryuji

[surreal ermine]

unrelated to your problem but isn't always rankup incompatible with r&v

[lethal geode]

[surreal ermine]

i see

i think i'm thinking of the one that doesn't require you to have a persona to get full points

[lethal geode]

it just edits the points threshold for all confidants, not the text or points awarded in text directly

[still raven]

i double checked zylvos' list too before I downloaded it, just to be sure if it was or not

[random hinge]

It is compatible. I moved CMM.BIN to file emulation during the beta and the file edited by Always Rank Up isn't edited by Rose & Violet

[still raven]

IM FREEE

softlocked no more, pixie came back 😭

thank you guys so much

[random hinge]

[gusty temple]

Hello, i finished the mod this last tuesday and its the best thing ive ever played this year

Thank you so much to everyone who worked on it, yall are the best

[coral prawn]

is the 1/1 event like
not edited?

i'm not you ahh 😭

[woeful anvil]

It should be
You might have a confliction somewhere

[lost helm]

Hey, for those who played this mod

is it worth playing for the story?

[bitter walrus]

thats what the entire mod is about

[lost helm]

Well yeah I was wondering if the story was well written or not

its 100 hours soo

although it looks cool I can't deny it

[molten finch]

It's very well written, as Kasumi/Rose is very active in the story than Joker 👀

[bitter walrus]

all up to the individual

go try it out yourself, see if you like it ;)

[lost helm]

I'm cool with it

but I don't really want to see much cheesy scenes if you know what I mean

deus ex machina a lot and stuff

[molten finch]

For Persona 5/Royal players, this is basically like a 2nd playthrough with different perspective as it's a nice replay there lol

[lost helm]

I see they apparently re made the kasumi and sumi backstory

might be interesting to play

maybe I will speed run it and focus on the new content

[lethal geode]

you would probably be better off just playing it, the dialogue feels natural

[lost helm]

That's reassuring

[lost helm]

I think you are the one who made it right?

thanks for it

[bright hawk]

that's zylvos actually

[lost helm]

its a huge work

[lethal geode]

i made kasumi as protag, which this mod uses as a dependency

[lost helm]

I see

still huge work

I'm impressed

[lost helm]

Do you happen to work on Kotone's mod?

[lethal geode]

The reload mod?

[lost helm]

yes

[lethal geode]

I do not, I'm not very interested in P3R modding and I don't like that modding requires UE editor

I tried event editing and it crashed like 20 times

Much prefer P5R, I can replace a texture without needing to dump it into UE and then wait for it to cook

[lost helm]

damn gotta be pain working on p3r

Maybe that's part of the reason how Kasumi's protag mod was made and finished much earlier than how kotone's is still being made

[surreal ermine]

unreal engine is hard to work with

p5's engine is less locked down

also femc for p3r only started evelopment recently

kasumi as protag has been in development since 2023

[lethal geode]

I halted development in late 2023 and then picked it back up in late 2024

also P3R Kotone project is modding a game that has its tools still being developed

• its a much bigger overhaul

[bitter walrus]

keep in mind that femc reloaded is constantly being updated. the original goal was to replace ui elements and models, thats already been done

its around version 2.1 now

[lethal geode]

The end goal is to port over all the p3p stuff that they can

Which would involve making new events

Backgrounds

Etc

So it probably wont be "finished" for a long time

Which isn't a huge deal imo

[bitter walrus]

they're still figuring out event editing

[lethal geode]

I think Reload kinda sucks anyway

and is really ugly

[lost helm]

Aren't there mods that make it less uglier?

[lethal geode]

Voice lines seem like they'd be a giga pain

[lethal geode]

Nah

It's an issue with its artstyle and lighting direction

Lot of materials are flat and undetailed, vegetation looks like puke, some areas are just flat out hideous

[lost helm]

I was wondering if someone could make nyx look better

especially the face

the ps2 one looks fine compared to that

in my opinion

[lethal geode]

these are a little cherry picked but heres some examples

also not to mention the dorm

yakushima in dancing/ps2 for reference

also the dark hour looks really bad in reload

which is weird since it looked great in dancing

[lost helm]

Yeah the green puke I found it unappealing

[lethal geode]

monorail comparison

[lost helm]

Why did they pick unreal engine 4 out of all other engines

[lethal geode]

this is what i mean by undetailed btw, the metal here looks like a giant kit kat

[lost helm]

I see

[lethal geode]

taking any screenshot of reload and comparing it to p5r (or dancing) is a world of difference, any random room in p5r generally looks more detailed than reload imo

[surreal ermine]

doesn't dancing use p5's engine?

[lethal geode]

yes

gfd

[lost helm]

true

[surreal ermine]

oh gfd is the name of the engine

[gusty temple]

Personally, i liked it just as much as P3P femc route

[lethal geode]

it also runs on the ps vita which i find funny compared to reload

which can barely run on a switch 2

although that probably has more to do with UE4's terrible frame limiter

[surreal ermine]

they somehow couldn't put an *unreal engine * game on the switch

how

[lethal geode]

well

they did put smt5 on switch originally

and it ran really badly i think

[surreal ermine]

it looked liek shit trust me

[lethal geode]

and looked like shit yeah

[surreal ermine]

i was absolutely amazed with vengeance on my pc compared to vanilla on my switch

[lethal geode]

vengance is rly funny it feels like they just waited for their (i presume) exclusivity deal to expire

[surreal ermine]

probably

i mean you could get smt5 vanilla on ps4

[bitter walrus]

not really

it was serviceable enough

30 with some frame drops here and there

[lethal geode]

not tmk

[surreal ermine]

i swear you could...

[lethal geode]

no it was literally only on switch

[surreal ermine]

but anywho vengeance is beautiful

am i having a stroke

why i am i making so many typos

[bitter walrus]

you tell me

[lethal geode]

ya vengeance look rly nice

i hope they port it to switch 2

i havent played an smt ever so i might make vengeance my first one

[bitter walrus]

if anything it'll be an upgrade pack

[surreal ermine]

i couldn't give two shits about the switch 2. it's gonna be nothing console with +1 fire emblem game

[bitter walrus]

this is just a plain lie lol

[lethal geode]

unfortunately it wont

[bitter walrus]

its already got great games on hand

[lethal geode]

knowing sega they'll just make it a full release

i bought raidou on switch 2

bought the switch 2 edition, didnt get a switch 1 version at all

[surreal ermine]

all that's on there right now is like mario games

[bitter walrus]

wrong again

theres just mk world

[surreal ermine]

can't you get raidou on regular switch

[lethal geode]

yeah

[gusty temple]

The switch 2 is really really cool but very expensive on my region
Its not worth it compared to the regional pricing on other storefronts 🙁

[lethal geode]

but i wanted the switch 2 version bcs it had some graphical improvements

[surreal ermine]

i see no point in getting a switch 2 at the moment aside from playing the new fire emblem game

[lethal geode]

and idt i would be digging up my original switch

[gusty temple]

Same

[lethal geode]

my original switch sits in its case waiting for me to turn it on for homebrew

[gusty temple]

And id rather wait for good sales, even if i love fire emblem

[surreal ermine]

i hope an emulator comes out soon because i'm not buying a whole ass console for one game

[bitter walrus]

cant say for sure, only example we've seen is sxs gens

[bitter walrus]

thats not happening for another few years haha

[lethal geode]

well raidou is another example, not a re-release per say but theres literally 0 upgrade pack

[surreal ermine]

well i suppose i'l have to wait then

[lethal geode]

you either buy the switch 1 version or buy the switch 2 version

[bitter walrus]

2 separate editions yeah but they released on the same day

if you bought raidou on switch 1

you didnt have a switch 2

no point in offering upgrade packs

[lethal geode]

thats kinda the problem though

because if you do get a switch 2

shell out full price for the upgrades

not really any excuse to do that when deltarune and silksong give you both versions for the price of one

[surreal ermine]

this is why i only buy switch exclusive games or games made for the switch on my switch

everything else is pc

[lethal geode]

sega is just obnoxiously greedy imo

[bitter walrus]

and we still buy their games

[surreal ermine]

oh well i got 2 sonic game son my switch but they were on sale

[lethal geode]

[surreal ermine]

i kind of regret it though. sonic fronteirs looks crunchy

[bitter walrus]

frontiers on switch is rough

[lethal geode]

i bought reload digital premium edition for $99 on steam

[bitter walrus]

praying that gets a sw2 update

[lethal geode]

i got the costumes and personas and stuff but

[surreal ermine]

i imeedielty wanted to refund fronteirs but fucking nintendo

[bitter walrus]

i bought base reload + expansion pack for just 60

[lethal geode]

the artbook was a nothing burger

[bitter walrus]

was on big sale

[lethal geode]

the soundtrack was a scam

you literally cant even

listen to it in the background

if you switch window focus it mutes itself

[surreal ermine]

i bought p3r on relase fro $70 and never fucking played it

[bitter walrus]

sega does this oftentimes, sonic frontiers has the ''mini-soundtrack'' and ''mini-artbook'' as separate executables as well

[lethal geode]

oh and then they dropped the expansion pass which ofc i had to buy separately

[gusty temple]

Was it the entire ost or just a selection?

[lethal geode]

entire ost

thankfully you could just extract the mp3s with fmodel

[bitter walrus]

reload got lucky, frontiers had what

[surreal ermine]

the $30 expansion after paying $70 for the base game made me wanna shoot myself

[bitter walrus]

24 tracks

[lethal geode]

LITERALLY LOL

and the answer reload was worse than base reload imo

[surreal ermine]

reload isn't even worth $70

[lethal geode]

there's a ton of changes to writing in reload that i hate

the answer reload said

[gusty temple]

Im glad i played reload with gamepass

[lethal geode]

what if we do that

but worse

[gusty temple]

It wasnt what i expected

[surreal ermine]

they were supposed to fucking fix the answer

[lethal geode]

i thought they were going to make it better

it seemed like such an easy slam dunk

[bitter walrus]

Only bought the digital deluxe for frontiers cuz it was cheaper on a key site

[surreal ermine]

that shit sucked in fes so surely they learned from their mistakes - nope

[lethal geode]

i thought to myself

theres zero way they make the answer worse

[bitter walrus]

it was completely fine ur acting like reload fucked it over big time

[lethal geode]

it kinda did

[bitter walrus]

Theres some strange sub-dialouge but the message remains unchanged

[lethal geode]

the only thing it "fixed" was the gameplay being torture

[lost helm]

What's bad about the base the answer?

[surreal ermine]

i don't think reload messed up the answer i jsut tihnkt hey didn't do anything to improve it

same with base reload, actually. we wanted a game that combined fes and portable and we got VANILLA

[bitter walrus]

same could be said for the entirety of reload t b h

^

[lethal geode]

the message remains the same yeah but it deals pretty big damage to the argument scene and then actively ruins the yukari and mitsuru comfort scene, as well as just completely butchering yukari's character

[bitter walrus]

no its fes

[surreal ermine]

they didn't plan on making the answer

they were pressured into it. they fully had the intenion of just making vanilla

[gusty temple]

Yukari was treated so badly...

[lethal geode]

this is so devious btw LOOOOOOL.

i do appreciate p3f and p3p way more now but it seems weird to remake p3 without the goal of making a version that has all the content

[surreal ermine]

p4 remake isn't gonna have marie i guarantee it

[gusty temple]

I cant believe they wanted to make her more likeable when she really needed the opposite

[lethal geode]

some people cant play p3f or p3p, theyre too hard even on their easiest difficulties or arent fun

p3r seemed like a great choice for those players

i would know because i went from p5r to p3p and wanted to shoot myself the entire time

came out hating p3 but also loving it at the same time

[surreal ermine]

i had a feeling when p3p was ported that femc wasn't gonna be in the remake

[bitter walrus]

p3p is only hard by chance on the highest difficulties

[lost helm]

I didn't play base the answer but I genuiunely loved Yukari in episode aigis, what's bad about her there?

[lethal geode]

i mean p3p isnt hard if you've played p3f, p3p, or p4/p4g

[surreal ermine]

only real ones suffered through p3fes

[lethal geode]

but it is pretty damn hard if youve only played p5r and didnt learn how to break that game in half

[bitter walrus]

it's not that crazy

[surreal ermine]

i had it a little easy. i played with the new moon mod

[lethal geode]

the only other rpgs i really play are pokemon, p3p is not "easy" for the average player

[surreal ermine]

tbh setting up p3fes for emulation and modding was harder than the game lololol

[gusty temple]

Personally, i disliked that they toned down her agressiveness
It was really important to show the aftermath of the journey

[bitter walrus]

i mean yeah obviously royal holds your hand and tucks you in bed while singing you a lullaby

[lethal geode]

hell i think p4g is braindead easy (i played it after suffering through p3p) but one of my friends whos playing it sucks at it and thinks its rly hard

[gusty temple]

The whole of p3 reload feels sanitized for me

Like it didnt fully commit to what p3 is

[surreal ermine]

reload has p5r's difficulty lol

[gusty temple]

And the answer reload continued that

[lethal geode]

basically if you've played like all the persona games then you shouldn't really comment on whats "easy" for the average player

i remember feeling kinda bad bcs everyone was saying p3p is easy even though i was playing it on the easiest difficulty and was still having trouble with it

[bitter walrus]

what i mean is some guardian fights depend entirely on your ability to actually hit your moves

or said guardian critting by chance

[bitter walrus]

i felt like i was doing something wrong from switching from hard to normal haha

was kind of tired of losing to rng on the chariot guardian after 7 retries though

[lethal geode]

i hated like all the guardians 😭

it was weird bcs the guardians would pummel me but the story bosses were well rounded

[bitter walrus]

the priestess is piss-easy in all versions of the game

[lost helm]

I would agree how reload feels more refreshing compared to how it was depressing in a deeper way in the og, and I do prefer the og style more

[lethal geode]

lovers in reload was pretty funny at least

yeah reload like

feels sanitized

which i feel is intentional since even the music sounds way too clean

[gusty temple]

Yeah, idk how to put it into words

But it feels like it tried to turn p3 into a more marketable experience

[lethal geode]

i just want kotone in 3d 💔💔💔

[lethal geode]

YEAH THIS EXACTLY

[lost helm]

true

[bitter walrus]

(or p3d)

[gusty temple]

The voice acting is based tho

I specially love zeno

He did so good

[bitter walrus]

oh well

you lot have fun, im gonna play sonic adventure

[gusty temple]

Bye, have fun

[lethal geode]

*excluding reload

and dancing is dancing, i love dancing but its not the same

[bitter walrus]

wait a minute

kotone in 3d is literally just

..her portable model

[lethal geode]

theres a femc mod for fes iirc but its very unfinished

[bitter walrus]

right i was wondering if that was a thing a while ago

like a backport of everything portable

[lethal geode]

was only the model unfo

i do love portable point and click but yeah having full 3d would be nice, i think fes looks great

technically you could try and backport portable stuff but that seems like a giant pain

[bitter walrus]

portable has been my preferred way to play p3 for a while now

[lethal geode]

i love how snappy portable feels as well

[gusty temple]

Same

[lethal geode]

one thing i dont like abt fes is how you can tell its ui is adobe flash lmao

its unresponsive and sluggish

[bitter walrus]

relics of the old age as they say

[gusty temple]

This mod got me wanting more femc experiences, so i wanna try playing that with the modded kotone cutscenes

[bitter walrus]

fes can be very slow, thats why emulating it is the preferred style

[lethal geode]

kotone cutscenes is so peak

[bitter walrus]

(speedups and all)

[bitter walrus]

go for it! do keep in mind that you need to reserve some space for the actual video files

[gusty temple]

I played p3p on xbox before the mod was finished, so i cant wait for a modded second playthrough on my steam deck

[gusty temple]

Rn im waiting on a steam sale, so i can get it as cheap as possible

[bitter walrus]

mfw the persona 3 portable is actually portable

[bitter walrus]

if you get impatient just check out a key reseller site

[gusty temple]

Meanwhile im redoing p4g

[gusty temple]

Maybe

[surreal ermine]

no

[gusty temple]

But rn im very patient and with a big backlog

[bitter walrus]

was i talking to you?

[surreal ermine]

most key reseller sites use stolen credit cards and other nefarious means

jesus christ man

no need to get hostile

[bitter walrus]

understood!

sega had their publisher sale not too long ago so it might be a while

[surreal ermine]

fall sale should be soon

[bitter walrus]

i wasn't trying to be! ☺️ , i guess i responded less-than-ideally when you straight up said 'no' when i was talking to someone else

[surreal ermine]

i mean you've been antagonizing me this whole conversation it feels a little like you're targetting me is all

also i usually split up my messages

[bitter walrus]

[rich tree]

there is a 99% chance of your keys being revoked more so now

since steam and epic are watching for resold keys

seen at least 4 people on reddit that had keys removed by steam for going to resell sites so no its not safe or advised

also fall sale is in a week or so If I remember right

plus holiday sale will be sometime in december

[lethal geode]

i tried buying a sims 3 key, it got revoked, bought one again and it got revoked like a month later

this was years ago on origin so i guess the other companies are finally doing the same

[bitter walrus]

none of my keys have been revoked ever

[surreal ermine]

only buy from key sites endorsed by steam

[rich tree]

i remember reading a post recently on reddit steam revoked 15 keys

[bitter walrus]

Sa2 has been up for a year

I buy everything from cdkeys

(Now known as loaded)

[surreal ermine]

oh yeah cdkeys uses stolen credit cards

[rich tree]

so its only a matter of time then

theres a lot of users to go through

[surreal ermine]

just pirate at that point

i suppose it's not possible for drm games

[rich tree]

problem is p3r and p5r both have denuvo i think

both remain uncracked so cant find them

[surreal ermine]

you're not giving money to the devs if you buy from a key site. just pirate it at that point

[rich tree]

your best option is a emulator on pc to run p5r and p3r on a switch emulator

[surreal ermine]

problem is mods

[bitter walrus]

uh, no

[surreal ermine]

there's not a lot of switch mods

[rich tree]

ah right

my most modded switch game on emulator is botw and totk

running full overhauls replacing link with zelda or linkle

[surreal ermine]

hello moderators i am not promoting pirating i'm just using a hypothetical