(P5R PC) Rose & Violet - Story overhaul

[dull pulsar]

like i feel like the -sama suffix would feel better
but that just me

[random hinge]

I'm not an expert, but I feel "-sama" has too much reverence to it. Rose isn't admiring Iwai (or any other adult), so I'd rather keep "-san" since it's more universal (and Iwai wouldn't let that slide I think)

On an unrelated note

I've tested Futaba's palace and it seems like I've fixed the softlocks

This warning is unrelated to the issue. It seems like it's happening because of P5R FemaleAudio, when the protag is using a voiceline (like when she jumps). However, it doesn't happen right away. It happens after a certain amount of time playing has passed

Now, I'm not sure if it's related to that, but I've noticed some sounds are getting muted

Like the sound when interacting with puzzle

[dull pulsar]

huh
i thought the -sama suffix is use to address older people in general
guess i was wrong

[random hinge]

Restarting the game fixes it though, so I dunno

[random hinge]

That's wikipedia, not me

Since Iwai is her boss, he would have a higher rank, but it seems a bit too much to me

[dull pulsar]

well
idk if i was conditioned by anime or something
but usually
even if you hate the person
as long as their are a higher rank than you, you still kinda have to call them with the -sama suffix
but still nice
just a personal nitpick

[random hinge]

No worries. I usually look at how the other characters talk, especially Sumire

I don't think she calls anyone "-sama", not even Maruki

[dull pulsar]

you checked the jp dub or en dub?

[random hinge]

English dub

[dull pulsar]

[random hinge]

The mod is in english, so I try so stay faithful to the english version

And I don't understand japanese audio

Anyway, I'm going to release an update today with a fix for the softlocks

[random hinge]

Rose & Violet Beta 1 - Hotfix 3
The following mods have been updated:

• Confidant cheat sheet
• Rose & Violet Story Overhaul

Please, update to the latest version of those mods to make sure the report are accurate. To do so, delete the folder with the previous version and replace it with the new version.

Changelog:

Confidant Cheat sheet:

• Typos have been fixed.
• Some dialogues have been edited thanks to Grinchula's proofreading. Thanks!

Rose & Violet Story Overhaul:

• Typos have been fixed.
• Fixed the softlocks happening in Futaba's palace (For example : interacting with the gem statues, interacting with the final elevator).
• Some dialogues have been edited thanks to Grinchula's proofreading. Thanks!

Load order setup:

• Updated the author's name for Costume Framework to "Ryotune".
• Updated the "Kasumi as Protagonist" mod name to "Kasumi as Protagonist - Pre-release Build".
• Updated the "Kasumi as Protagonist - Alternate models" mod name to "Kasumi as Protagonist - Alternate models Test build".

Reminder:

• Make sure Custom Bonus Tweaks (version 2.5.2+) and Persona Essentials (version 2.9.2+) are up to date.
• Don't use the alternate models mod on Gamebanana. It is outdated and will not work with Wisteria's latest test build.
• Make sure Wisteria's test build is up to date.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cpFZisgX0PqGAvu2LipYZ1fk-YIziilB?usp=drive_link

Next update (or the one after) should have a little surprise. I recommend keeping a save before the Hawaii trip.
You can keep playing for now, don't worry. You'll be able to come back it to if you make that save and then continue your playthrough normally.

[solar igloo]

oooh. Thank god I have every event saved so I can go back and replay it.

[lapis tartan]

Good thing I've still got a bit of Raidou left

Should tide me over until the surprise

[dawn inlet]

Hey can anyone help me with this error ? I am stuck in an infinite loop. It happens in 7/18

[random hinge]

Are you using my model mod? If not, what version of Wisteria's mod are you using?

[dawn inlet]

Yes and yes

https://pixeldrain.com/l/mrULL5wW this version to be precise

[random hinge]

Can you show your load order?

With the mod versions

[dawn inlet]

Btw i updated the mod with this version so it is the latest release of the mod

[random hinge]

Alright, so your Wisteria's mod version is a "Hotfix 2" version. The latest version is a "Hotfix 3" so it's not the latest version

And also

My model mod is currently disabled in your load order, so it doesn't do anything

Basically, you need to at least update Wisteria's mod

[dawn inlet]

talk about being a stupid lol

which one is off btw alternate model ?

[random hinge]

Alternate model is disabled because the square is grey

So your Kasumi doesn't have the white mask

And brown hair

In short, you're missing a model named "C0001_075_00.GMD". Wisteria has added in the latest version of their mod and it's present in my alternate model mod

[dawn inlet]

all right i ticked that off to update hotfix

[random hinge]

So you need to either update Wisteria's mod or use my model mod

But I recommend to update Wisteria's mod anyway

[dawn inlet]

thanks zlyvos it worked i am able to pass infinite loop now

[alpine zenith]

i have no clue if this is related to the mod or not, but in cutscene dialog my game audio gets changed back to english and i was wondering if any of yall know why?

[random hinge]

Are you using "P5R FemaleAudio"? This mod only works in english

So disable it if you're using japanese audio

[alpine zenith]

oh i am, alright ty

does it change anything major with this mod or am i fine without it

[rapid mural]

Just some perspective on the -sama prefix although yes, it can be used to refer to one's boss or even one's parent it is situational. It would be really weird for Kasumi to say "Sojiro-sama" or "Iwai-sama" unless she had just met them. Neither of them would let her.

I could see Yoshida-sama perhaps but to br perfectly honest I think simpler is better as -sama is a very reverent form of address.

[random hinge]

It doesn't change the protag voicelines, the voice patch handles it (and it has a japanese version). It mainly changes voicelines from NPC to address the protag as "her"

[rapid mural]

Oh QUICK NOTE: Check your mod number.

so if you have say 64 mods before adding your 4 new rose and violet mods?

Make sure the mod list number says you now have 68.

Also same goes for when you deleted the previous version.

Just a way to double check that your mod has been completely added or removed.

It will probably never be an issue, but always a good idea to check.

---

ENJOY!

[alpine zenith]

alright, thank youu

ik this is still a beta but this is comical to me

😭

[lapis tartan]

shouldn't be doing that

[alpine zenith]

its nothing major

all ive seen so far are clipping and positioning bugs which is whatever

i can deal with it and its a little funny sometimes

[lapis tartan]

it's never done that for me

[alpine zenith]

odd

oh well

[random hinge]

Thanks, I'll look into it

[random hinge]

I think you're using my model mod from Gamebanana and probably Wisteria's as well. She doesn't wear a pajama here

Which would explain why the phone isn't held correctly

[alpine zenith]

i downloaded your mod from the drive link, but yeah im using wisterias from GB

is there somewhere else i can find it?

[random hinge]

For Wisteria's mod :
https://pixeldrain.com/l/mrULL5wW

You'll need to use the model mod from my drive if you want Kasumi with the brown hair

The mod on Gamebanana is no longer compatible

[alpine zenith]

yeah thats what ive been using

[alpine zenith]

alright

[random hinge]

Are you sure? She's not wearing her pajama

[alpine zenith]

she was wearing the tanktop its just the way i cropped it

[lapis tartan]

nah she doesn't wear the tanktop in the updated version

she has pajamas

[alpine zenith]

oh

yeah then idk

i thought i dragged in the one from the drive

[random hinge]

This is the pajama

[alpine zenith]

im using this one

i swear i dragged it in

guess ill do it again

[random hinge]

Use that one, but remember to delete the old model from your "Mods" folder

The new and the old have the same "mod id"

So only one will show in Reloaded

It should show like this

[alpine zenith]

got that

should i just be using this one for the kasumi as protag?

[random hinge]

Yes, you only the main mod

[alpine zenith]

alright thank you

im getting this error after installing everything now

fixed it nvm

forgot to edit the config

[random hinge]

#1094412112576651314 message

In case it's still not working

[hollow owl]

So will the male romances be in the full version or no mromance at all

[lyric willow]

Zylvos wants to do male romances but it’s a lot of work

As far as I’m aware

[alpine zenith]

is there no mromances in the beta rn?

i havnt been able to progress slinks yet (i forgot how long this game takes to open up 😭)

[static ermine]

Nope

There's some fun dialog choises tho

[alpine zenith]

ah ok

lesbian kasumi hell yeah

[static ermine]

Ye

Lesbian Kaaumi for only a few (adult romances are unsupported)

Imma go for Haru myself because she and Kasumi have fitting personalitys that'd complement each other

[dull pulsar]

the actual rich lady
and the rich/refined lady persona?

[alpine zenith]

i wonder if joker shows up at some point during the 3rd semester or smth

bc if not i wonder what showtimes kasumis gonna have

unless its unchanged

and she just gets akechi and sumi

[dull pulsar]

probably rose and violet showtimes

[alpine zenith]

name drop⁉️

but yeah prob

[dull pulsar]

?

[alpine zenith]

was joking

mod names rose and violet

so

[dull pulsar]

lol

[alpine zenith]

HOW did i not see this till now

😭

[dull pulsar]

cause yes

[lapis tartan]

I think the white reskin for the phantom thieves outfit is the best

[dull pulsar]

somehow feel wrong
but that just me

[dull pulsar]

true

[rapid mural]

I adore that one. some of the costumes are literally just cosplay like that and I love it.

[radiant plume]

the girl from fortnite

[lyric willow]

The Miku costume is so pretty

Crazy how well she fits in Persona

[alpine zenith]

hearing the music change as well was a nice surprise

[rich tree]

Anyone know of a mod that lets you use metaverse outfits in the open world

[rapid mural]

I joke that when she drives she uses her ponytails for breakneck turns.

Someone should use that for a mechanic in a driving game.

But yes, she could be a persona as is.

"You can now Fuse Hatsune Miku,; The Vocal Goddess From The Digital Realm!"

[humble trail]

is it possible to get sumire to have ponytail as well? instead of long hair?

[random hinge]

No, it's handled by Sumire overhaul and it's a dependency for Rose & Violet so even if you disable it, it will be loaded when you start the game

[rich tree]

typo

so his high level of adapability

[granite wren]

???

That's the correct spelling in your screenshot

[random hinge]

Fixed in hotfix 3 already

[granite wren]

did it happen elsewhere?

[random hinge]

The issue is the "his", it should be "her"

[granite wren]

Ohhh

What tripped me up was seeing the "adapability" I missed the pronoun
carry on

[rich tree]

.<

[granite wren]

[rich tree]

sorry

[granite wren]

Nah nah it's fine

[random hinge]

No worries

[granite wren]

we both made a boo boo

[rich tree]

i have aspbergers so my spelling can be horrifying at times

then again so is my math >.<

[cloud lantern]

Dunno if it's been reported already, but isn't it supposed to be "I'm unsure"?

[random hinge]

That's probably a typo and it's definitely "unsure". Thanks, I'll fix it in the next update

[humble trail]

Too bad, sumire long hair physic is a bit off, seems like it is floating

[lethal geode]

you just have to live with it, p5r's physics system is pretty basic and atlus didnt bake long hair physics for the majority of her animations

[static ermine]

Ye

[solid galleon]

the battle portrait thing is still joker's, is that intentional or did something break?

or is it just because i'm still in the tutorial?

[dull pulsar]

something broke

you should have notice in the opening opening

[solid galleon]

I just thought that was because it was the intro

I don’t quite understand why / what broke

[tropic torrent]

my portrait is also joker's, is there a mod log?

[radiant plume]

i mean miku was in p4d so she already had a persona-style model lmao

[dull pulsar]

probably somewhere on mod setup

load order/setup?

[tropic torrent]

nvm I didnt download the file in the other thread

[dull pulsar]

lol

[tropic torrent]

just found out abt it lol

anyhow, this mod does some impressive work

[solid galleon]

i think i fixed it?

it’s Kasumi on the pause menu

[quaint breach]

3rd semester rank 9 Sumire typo. Should be "whether", and *I personally* would put a comma after "me".

[dull pulsar]

which "me"?
cause i feel like both position dont fit

[tropic torrent]

yeah i dont think you need a comma there

[dull pulsar]

if you talking me, or
then that doesnt fit cause it's 2 "subject"

you only use comma before "or" if there more than 2

[quaint breach]

It feels like a list to me. I would pause there if I was saying it out loud.

[dull pulsar]

again
a comma is only used when you are listing 3 or more thing
2 does not use a comma

[lapis tartan]

hmmm

atlus scammed me and i already finished raidou

i could go back to playing this mod

or play p4

[dull pulsar]

?

you finished it like
3 days?

[lapis tartan]

yeah

its a ps2 game so it's not terribly long

[dull pulsar]

i see

[lapis tartan]

so i can continue with playthrough 2 of R&V

or maybe play another game

maybe p4 so my p5 burnout can dissipate

and also then i can wait for another update to R&V

[random hinge]

This will happen if you're using Wisteria's mod from Gamebanana. It doesn't have the portrait since it's very outdated now

[dull pulsar]

is that suppose to float like that?

[random hinge]

Yeah, well issues with the long hair are going to be unavoidable.

[random hinge]

Added and thanks!

[rapid mural]

Play PS3 Reloaded woth the Femc mod.

Also I HIGHLY recommemned not turning on the mod until 4/8. save on 4/8 or if it pushes u to 4/9 save on 4/9, reload and continue.

Then you get the most bad ass magical girl Trans magic Persona awakening scene ever.

Its as if you start in all the Blue and emo and then reawaken as your true self.

And YES you can pet the dog.

He doesnt come until later but when you talk to the dog you always pet him.

I would even wait on ranking up Magician, justice, and strength so you can walk the dog more.

Gome.

I been playing it a lot and I swear they make Koromaru (the dog) available more when emotional story stuff happens.

TLFR: Persona 3 has one of the most amazing Magical Girl transformation scenes if you use the Kotone mod. (because of how aggressive the male cutscenes are before it crashes into the female cutscenes when she awakens to her persona)

It also has a dog!!

[dull pulsar]

oh
ok

kinda annoying that she is not in the ponytail mode

[dull pulsar]

this is somehow hilarious

[kind shell]

Hair to tired to stay up

Also I saw it mentioned before so not sure if fixed just link message if already mentioned but whays the situation wirh the Futaba Palace? Main thing I know is something to do with the gem not working and some elevator scene. Will it just be safer to make many saves in the Palace?

[dull pulsar]

fixed in the new version a few days ago

[kind shell]

Lovely

[random hinge]

Yes, it should be fixed with hotfix 3. Save at each safe room, just in case

[plain mirage]

How necessary is the alternate model mod? I can’t launch P5 with the mod loaded.

[random hinge]

I don't see how the mod would prevent you from launching the game, but it's actually not necessary.
Just in case : make sure you're using the model mod from my drive and Wisteria's test build. Don't use the mods from Gamebanana, they're outdated

[kind shell]

Anddd is it right load order and def sure its the model? For me at least Relaoded just crashes game on startup randomly at times. Just usually trying liek 2-4 more times fixes. Maybe that?

[plain mirage]

Right load order for sure I’ve gone through the pdf. I’ve also been trying for about 5 days to get it to launch. Technically it does launch but crashes instantly I can’t get past loading

I have noticed I am using hotfix 2 for kasumi as protag and not hotfix 3 so maybe if I update that might fix it?

[plain mirage]

Didn’t fix it. Nevermind if the alt model mod is not that necessary then I just won’t have it loaded

[lapis tartan]

Idk, I was gonna wait for that one to finish editing its events first

[rapid mural]

Fair. Its my first time playing and there are some events that are...

I understand.

p3 is a little more awkward than p5 without event editing although theres only two major ones.

There is always "Makoto Nijima swaears unholy vengeance against the bastard that destroyed her life and murdered her brother"

Tales of Vesperia.

(same Va)

i recommend that and Tales of symphonia in Japanese highly

[lapis tartan]

Idk I still want to play an Atlus game

If I'm taking a break from P5, then it's either P3, P4, or maybe SMTV

[rapid mural]

phantom x?

[spare oak]

3 days...

[lapis tartan]

3 days...

[lapis tartan]

Also it's a gacha

Though I suppose the upside to it is that it's something new

[spare oak]

its soo generous

[lapis tartan]

idk

Kind just want a new take on something I already like rn

Like R&V does

[rich tree]

get a month of gamepass and play metaphor

if you want more atlus

[lapis tartan]

i kinda want to get it but idk about the setting

[rich tree]

which is why I suggested gamepas rather your only out a small amount of money rather then 60 or more for the game

[merry coyote]

^ yeah game pass is your best bet, it lets you get just about every Persona game (sans P5dancing, which I still have no clue where to find) for cheap

ninety percent sure P3R is there too

[rich tree]

P3R is free to play on game pass royal and 4 you need to pay for

metaphor is free right now on game pass as well

as for P5 dancing amazon has it fro Ps4 for 25 bucks

[lapis tartan]

i mean i'd only pay about 30 since i'd buy a key

oh dang

cdkeys ran out of stock

there goes that idea

[languid depot]

Not sure if someone's found this but uh there's an optional hangout with Ryuji where you can still go to the bathhouse with him XD Idono how easy this fix would be unless you could just remove the option entirely (Not that I don't mind hanging out with the bros in the bathhouse of course)

[rich tree]

I never had that option on that date in game. So I have no idea.

[languid depot]

It happened during one of those times your party comes to visit Leblanc, it's not a Confidant hangout basically

[static ermine]

Saw it myself recently with Yusuke and ryuji lol

[static ermine]

Yep this

[languid depot]

mh... I think I know what you're talking about but it's not like a story hangout or anything, like sometimes members of your party will come over to Leblanc and you can choose to spend the day with them or not.

[limber juniper]

Seems like she needs a booster seat in certain animations, huh

[static ermine]

That is true but i personally like it

Short Queen vibes

[languid depot]

Kasumi after being called a Short Queen probably

[rich tree]

Kasumi, 5'4 Ann 5'5 makoto 5'5 haru 5'3 and futaba 5'0 so Futaba is the short queen

kasumi is the middle height wise of the girls

[static ermine]

I stand corrected

[lofty fractal]

this is super late and random and idk if i should say it here but I saw that someone said that no simp morgana conflicts with this mod - i'd be willing to make a compat patch

[lapis tartan]

should make a mod that removes his hand holding tbh

[languid depot]

As much as I love Morgana... his constant nagging to tell us to go to bed sometimes in between Palaces is BEYOND annoying... so many wasted days between Palaces

[lapis tartan]

true

it feels like P5 gets very little free time between palaces

but P4 you get a lot

[lofty fractal]

tbh thats probably not too hard to mod out

[languid depot]

Persona 5 definitely is the most restricting I think. Persona 3 pretty much drowns you in free-time and I remember it not being too bad in Persona 4

[lapis tartan]

true

i feel like that only works though if theres stuff going on when they take away control

like character interactions

which 5 is the weakest in

or a good plot

which again, 5 is the weakest

[languid depot]

Yeah, most of it is just "SO WHO'S OUR NEXT TARGET???" or "Are we REALLY doing the right thing...?" or something like that

[lapis tartan]

TRUE

and somehow you're the party pooper for advising caution

like everyone is stupid except the player

[languid depot]

Dude for real... I guess that's why WE'RE the leader instead of anyone else cuz none of them are very bright sometimes

[lapis tartan]

||and somehow the player is lumped in to the problem by being forced to say "WE were overconfident"||

[languid depot]

True... I do love Persona 5 to bits (mostly cuz it was my first Persona) but there is a lot of little things like that that really hold it back for me

[lapis tartan]

P5 is like

fallout 4

its the most fun to play

but the story is dogshit

in terms of impact its like yakuza 0

[languid depot]

That's a fair assessment

[lapis tartan]

which is bad

because Yakuza 0 ruined the franchise

i do fear Persona 6 will continue P5's nonsense

like confidants and whatnot

anyways

i should figure out whether to continue p5 or play some p4

[dull pulsar]

isnt confidant like
a thing since way before
but just with different name?

[lapis tartan]

social links

[dull pulsar]

or am i missing something?

[lapis tartan]

confidants functionally aren't different

i just dislike them conceptually

[dull pulsar]

anyway
used a mod to increase my freetimes a few bit

[lapis tartan]

because i dislike the implication that the protagonist is a criminal mastermind

or that s. links are just to work on "deals"

[dull pulsar]

i mean
a few of the confidant is more of a "deal"

kinda

[lapis tartan]

I'd prefer the protagonist just makes friends instead

[dull pulsar]

i still like the bad ending scene

[lapis tartan]

speaking of which

ticks me off this game doesn't have sports clubs to join

[dull pulsar]

?

[lapis tartan]

P3 and 4 both had it so you could join sports clubs

and there'd be a social link attached to those

for example, 3 had kendo, track, and swimming
4 has basketball and soccer

[dull pulsar]

so there are a few link that cant be accessed no matter what?

cause iirc
usually can only join 1 club

[lapis tartan]

no

those links change depending on the club

in p3r its just track

but in the og it was three clubs

but it was the same link

[dull pulsar]

oh
so it's the same link
just different "theme"

[lapis tartan]

4 its two characters for one link

but the club determines who the link focuses on

but anyways

my point is that i wish P5 has something similar

so you can interact with the world a bit more

[dull pulsar]

probably because of context

we are 2nd years
we are believed as criminal

so probably most people at school dont wanna interact with us

[lapis tartan]

yeah unfortunate the game's dumb premise makes it so we can't have nice things

[dull pulsar]

i mean
all our confidant is literally outside of school except cast member and homeroom teacher

what was the premise for 4 again?

i remember 3 is cause MC decide to move to the city

[lapis tartan]

i think though this can be rectified by leaving it for after kamoshida

[lapis tartan]

yu narukami's parents work in a foreign country for a year, so yu is sent to live in the country side with his uncle

and it's the best setting we ever got

[lapis tartan]

for example, librarian before kamoshida's arc hate you, but afterwards apologizes to you

[dull pulsar]

2 setting where school member have no negative view on us
which allow us to form a more casual form of friendship

[lapis tartan]

so it can work imo

i digress

i'm ranting about something that can't be changed

[dull pulsar]

i mean
the only one that kinda did that is moon

[lapis tartan]

man now i kinda am leaning towards playing 4 for a while

even though i've already played it like 6 times

[dull pulsar]

anyway
just beat mementos
have high hope for 3rd semester

[lapis tartan]

3rd semester is much more coherent with this mod

[dull pulsar]

Rose, Violet and Oracle
together

?

[lapis tartan]

is this a real thing?

[dull pulsar]

timeless twin outing

literally the 13 outing with twin doesnt cost a time slot

[lapis tartan]

oh

[dull pulsar]

so that a bit of extra free times

[lapis tartan]

like in p3

well i don't even do those so that's whatever imo

[dull pulsar]

imma hope 3rd semester isnt too restricting in term of free times

[lapis tartan]

you get a bunch

[dull pulsar]

but then again
i finish all the confidant and stat

[lapis tartan]

assuming you used your time well previously

[dull pulsar]

so really nothing better to do other than gym

[lapis tartan]

yeah you get plenty of time

[dull pulsar]

nice
time to download a jazz club mod and use it

[lapis tartan]

hmmm

do i wait for zylvos' next update

[dull pulsar]

last update is like
a few days ago

[lapis tartan]

yeah

zylvos said some new stuff would come in the next one

so do i want to pause my p5 playthrough until then

and play some p4 or something

[dull pulsar]

isnt that
atleast half a week from now
at the very least?

[lapis tartan]

yeah

[dull pulsar]

hmm
kinda wanna play p4g
but dont wanna buy

[lapis tartan]

not enough time for a full p4 playthrough

unless the new stuff is pushed to the update afterwards

[lapis tartan]

come to think of it

p5x is coming to pc soon

i think i'll just stick with 5 until then

[spare oak]

3 days...

[dull pulsar]

isnt p5x like
a gacha game?

[spare oak]

so?

[lapis tartan]

3 days...

[random hinge]

Oh yeah, I wanted to removed the option entirely to be coherent with the first bathhouse event with Ann. Thanks for reminding me

[random hinge]

Fine by me! I'll try to keep track of edited files so you can adjust them if necessary.
Just so know: since I don't use FEmulator for all the BMDs/BFs, the emulator use the base game file instead of mine to override the dialogue. I think this can be fixed by moving all of those files to the Character folder of Costume Framework. This will allow some compatibility with mods that use FEmulator, but disable compatibility with mods that don't (in the case people want another mod to override Rose & Violet).
Regardless, you should be able to make a compatibility patch for my mod by reusing my files. I don't know if this will work with edited EVT though

For instance, I would need to keep CORP011.BF out of the Character folder so people can still use the Timeless Twin Outings mod (There're a few dialogues changes in it, so it's already "incompatible", but if they want the feature...)

[dull pulsar]

oh

guess i have to remember that

for any potential future

[random hinge]

I haven't made that change for now

And if I keep the file for the twin outings where it currently is, the mod will be usable

[dull pulsar]

[tidal glacier]

Futaba to Okumura, depending on when you complete futaba, will leave you with no palace for almost 2 months😭😭

[lapis tartan]

sure but thats in the summer and the summer has less things to do

actually ig if none of the confidants are actually tied to the school

still, i'd rather they paced it better

only time no free time is good is november-december because thats the worst part of the game

[elder kraken]

i wonder if there's a way to write sumire into the party ||after the first maruki palace visit in 10/3||

was always disappointed that she joins so late

[dull pulsar]

There a mod for that (join at ||shido's||) but that not compatible with R&V

[lapis tartan]

would be cool though it someone made a compatch

[dull pulsar]

Iirc
The problem is the amount of extra story that need to be made

[lapis tartan]

oh right

ig theres some events she'd have to part of

[random hinge]

Yeah, it's technically possible, but it's going to take a lot of time to edit story events, field events, etc, so she doesn't feel shoehorned into it

[lapis tartan]

yeah probably better then to just work on more important stuff

[dull pulsar]

Wait
Will it somehow crash the game if you don't add the extra event and other stuff?

[random hinge]

Storywise, I have to make sure I don't put Sumire in a situation that forces her to confront her actualization. Her interactions with Kasumi before the 3rd semester are meant to be a little awkward because of it and the other PT would definitely feel something's off

[lapis tartan]

oh right

yeah

the shido thing

[random hinge]

No, she will just not be here in cutscenes, dialogues, etc

Which would be weird if she's not part of the team

[dull pulsar]

Eh
That work for me

[lapis tartan]

probably best to just not worry about that then

[dull pulsar]

[random hinge]

Well, there's gameplay and story

Gameplaywise, there's probably a way to add her to the squad before the 3rd semester

She has a mouse model so it won't crash in Shido's palace

[dull pulsar]

Iirc
That mod already did that
Have her join on shido's and adjusted her level

Is what the mod did

So probably only problem is storywise

[solar igloo]

Just finished the Third Semester and it was amazing, definitely will do a new game plus later.

||I honestly thought that Kasumi would die after Beating Maruki just like Akechi would if they go back to the original reality.||

[lapis tartan]

i thought that might happen too

before i got to it

[dull pulsar]

Wait
||We actually died canonically in R&V?||

[lapis tartan]

no\

[dull pulsar]

||Then Why would you 2 assume that she would disappear?||

[lapis tartan]

||the premise of R&V is that Kasumi didn't die and takes the place of Joker instead||

[lapis tartan]

because it was up in the air until we played 3rd semester

[dull pulsar]

I see?

I can't connect the dot

[solar igloo]

||Theres also the part where Maruki shows the death scene of Kasumi, and the choices were saying that she's still alive. He said he saved Kasumi.||

[lapis tartan]

yeah that was what got me thinking about it

[random hinge]

Yeah. Maybe after release, if the mod's popular, other modders will make compatibility patches for it. I certainly won't mind it (also because I don't want to redo all the mods on Gamebanana, ahah)

[lapis tartan]

if ||that was the implication, then I thought it was an akechi scenario||

[dull pulsar]

Lol
True

[lapis tartan]

trve

[dull pulsar]

||on the 1st palace run of 3rd semester?||
|| I thought that was her mom||

[lapis tartan]

it is

but

[dull pulsar]

So there a different scene?

[lapis tartan]

||the implication that maruki says is that he saved kasumi's life||

||through his power||

[dull pulsar]

||isn't that implying the criminal allegations that shido put her in?||

[lapis tartan]

no

that comes because ||kasumi lived and was there instead of joker||

[dull pulsar]

[lapis tartan]

so now sumire's ||grief comes from the fact she ruined kasumi's life||

[dull pulsar]

Isn't that also implying the opening scene?

[lapis tartan]

what?

[random hinge]

||Both parents are dead. The scene where the dad mourn Kasumi in the base game is him mourning his wife. He passes away not long after.
The causes for their death isn't specified because that's not important. What's important is the impact on Kasumi and Sumire||

[lapis tartan]

yeah

[dull pulsar]

Where sumire separated from kasumi which lead to her meeting shido

[solar igloo]

||Genuinely these choices made me think If Kasumi is actually dead irl||

[lapis tartan]

yeah

[lapis tartan]

where is that bustup from?

[lapis tartan]

yes

[solar igloo]

Kasumi As Protagonist

You can configure the bust up there

[lapis tartan]

ah

[random hinge]

||The animated cutscene is what would have happened if Maruki had not intervened. When Maruki shows it, they're in his reality so they're confused||

[lapis tartan]

ngl zylvos i think it's a testament to what you've made that we're discussing the implications this much

[magic magnet]

You can it do without that mod

[lapis tartan]

in the vanilla game it's just a one and done thing

[dull pulsar]

?

[random hinge]

||Same confusion at the end of the game when Kasumi disappears, but they quickly figure out that since it happens before Maruki took over reality, it won't be reverted back||

[lapis tartan]

yeah

[lapis tartan]

is there a way to see which are which?

[random hinge]

Those are L7M3 portraits

[solar igloo]

Yep

[lapis tartan]

oh wait

i found them in the files

[random hinge]

They're making them for me too, but they're not all done and I don't know how to add a configure option to a mod yet

They're animated btw

Which is why the eyes are below the rest of the portrait

[lapis tartan]

i'll just wait for yours i think

[magic magnet]

Yeah

You can bring her very early without breaking the mod

[lapis tartan]

btw i found this cool mod yesterday

https://gamebanana.com/mods/439595

[dull pulsar]

H-h-how?

[lapis tartan]

now everyone can conform

nobody will be rebelling against authority

[dull pulsar]

Bad end achieved in day 1

[lapis tartan]

TRVE

my ending

well

i think the game tries too hard to conflate rebellion with a defense of free will

[dull pulsar]

Thin line separating them

[lapis tartan]

not really

[dull pulsar]

True
You can still have free will while conforming

Or express free will

[cunning kelp]

genuinely one of my fav mods to play with so it’s not incredibly obvious who the PT are in school lmao

[dull pulsar]

PT?

[cunning kelp]

phantom thieves

[dull pulsar]

Honestly?
Hair gave it away
Except makoto

[magic magnet]

Oh I just use cheat engine and that doesn't mess with any of the mods since it not reloaded 2

[dull pulsar]

Lol

[cunning kelp]

TRUE
it’s just funny when games are like “hmm I wonder who the next party member will be. surely not the person with stand out hair and nonconforming school uniform”

[dull pulsar]

If can't mod
Then cheat

[lapis tartan]

speaking as someone who studyies Catholic theology

obedience to us is a virtue

[dull pulsar]

Guess the main character in anime moment

[lapis tartan]

but that doesn't mean we surrender free will

the right path must be freely chosen

[lapis tartan]

TRVTH NVKE

they made it so obvious for 5

then again

it was pretty obvious in 3 and 4 too lol

[dull pulsar]

Japan
If character is important
Definitely make it have stand out design

Except makoto

Makoto seriously look npc coded

[lapis tartan]

chie has green
yukiko red
kanji is kanji

ig Rise and Naoto wear normal uniforms

[lapis tartan]

idk hers still stands out imo

[cunning kelp]

Naoto’s hat is a stand out tho lmao
first time I saw it I went “okay so. party member then”

[lapis tartan]

yeah lol

[dull pulsar]

Again
Stand out design

[lapis tartan]

then again

more s. links had special designs iirc

like Ai had her own variation of the uniform

[dull pulsar]

Really?
Feel like she blend into the background if she wear standard conforming school uniform

[lapis tartan]

its more noticeable in the bust up ig

ai has her own version

rise has the standard

[dull pulsar]

I won't be surprise if most people didn't notice her in the background when she hasn't join yet

Huh
Yeah
Rise look a bit more blended in

As the hair is barely standard color

[lapis tartan]

i wish Yu's was buttoned up like Kou's

but that's just me ig

[tidal glacier]

In terms of daytime that’s so true

[dull pulsar]

Isn't summer like
13-14 wasted day?

[lapis tartan]

basically

i mean theres some fun events at least

something 5 is sorely lacking

[tidal glacier]

Yeah

[dull pulsar]

Summer?
Spend atleast 1 week in Hawaii where there nothing you can do

[lapis tartan]

4 at least had events sprinkled throughout the game, 5 has one before summer, one during summer, and nothing else

[tidal glacier]

Most hangouts especially 8/30 where they meet up to do the hw is so forced

Og p5 didn’t have that

[lapis tartan]

i don't mind hawaii because it's a vehicle for character interaction

i just wish there was more of it

like

they do nothing in the winter

4g at least had the ski trip

[dull pulsar]

Feel like the school premised is just shoehorned in

[lapis tartan]

this

in 5 the school is so superfluous after kamoshida

it's why i was saying yesterday the school stuff should've opened up after his palace

[dull pulsar]

School after kamoshida is just there to give a bit of extra stat
Then nothing

[lapis tartan]

everyone realizes the protagonist isn't so evil and then he can join sports clubs and other stuff

would've been nice

sports club

cultural club

[dull pulsar]

What do you do in school in p5?
Get a bit of stat every few days
Borrow a book

[lapis tartan]

take exam

[dull pulsar]

After that?
Nothing

Ignore school

[lapis tartan]

they model the whole school and put nothing in it lol

[dull pulsar]

P3 and P4 get more mileage out of the school premise

[lapis tartan]

yeah

considering you actually do stuff in those ones

kendo club

drama

etc.

school festival

that was barely in 5

[dull pulsar]

Literally the starting village role of most rpg game
Introduce the player to the game then ignored for the rest of the game

Cause it's bare bone

[lapis tartan]

and the argument that the protag is an outcast doesn't work, because after kamoshida, joker stops being an outcast

the school is fine with him after that

its so lame

anyways

I hope P6 rectifies these issues

[dull pulsar]

The outcast premise only work for kamoshida and shido

And probably sae

[lapis tartan]

nah just kamoshida

[dull pulsar]

Every other palace ruler don't even know joker is an outcast

[lapis tartan]

bro not even shido knows

he doesn't give a shit

[dull pulsar]

Shido most likely know
Considering he literally the one that put us in jail and remember us in the boss fight

[lapis tartan]

yeah but like

he doesn't care at all

thats kinda the point with him

he steps over everyone else

and forgets them

[dull pulsar]

And honestly
Kamoshida's can probably still work even without the outcast premise

[lapis tartan]

yeah tbh

kamoshida is just an asshole

[dull pulsar]

Our interactions with kamoshida?
A transfer student that found out about his secret

Literally don't need the outcast premise

[lapis tartan]

it's a shame i can't just rewrite the entire game

i'd drop the rebellion theme entirely

just make it about free will

that's more interesting

[dull pulsar]

It is suppose to be about free will
But done a bad job that it look more like rebellion than free will

Or probably just a cultural difference problem

[lapis tartan]

could be

[dull pulsar]

Idk
Maybe for Japanese
Rebelling against authority could be the same as free will

[lapis tartan]

i think that only works if you think respect for your elders is somehow a bad thing

i'm oversimplifying it

[dull pulsar]

We gone too deep

[lapis tartan]

but i think it's one of those problems 3 and 4 simply don't have

[lapis tartan]

true

well at least we haven't buried any typo reports today

[bright hawk]

for me ||its when maruki said that kasumi was only alive bc he used his power to give sumire a vision. which felt weird bc that in itself is actualization and thats what i was worried about.||

[lapis tartan]

Exactly

[bright hawk]

||the main reason i knew she had to live was bc the mod description confirms an ending with both of them||

[tidal glacier]

Nobody wants to hang out with you still, that’s how high school still works, rumors may end, doesn’t mean public opinion will

At least that’s what I think when it comes to Ren

[jagged dome]

What’s the issue?

[radiant plume]

"the strength the face myself"

my brain autocorrected it also dw

[rich tree]

i had to double read it

my brain auto corrected

which is why I likely didn't notice it in my current run >.<

[raw marlin]

I didn’t noticed the “the”

[dull pulsar]

yeah
in japan
1st impression is important and hard to get rid of
expecially if it's a bad/negative first impression
for p3 and p4, the impression is neutral

[languid depot]

Not sure if this was reported yet but in case not i'll post it here. "Gymnastics" is missing the S.

[lapis tartan]

gymnatics

[dull pulsar]

oh hey
didnt know ryuji use siblin' like that

cute

[languid depot]

I've noticed he speaks like that from time to time throughout the game

[radiant plume]

it's because he's peak

[languid depot]

Truuuuue, as a straight guy I'd love a femprotag for this game, one of the reasons being so I get to date Ryuji. This and Wisteria's mod are SO peak for this game tbh. I definitely can't wait for male romances, but there's certainly no pressure on it.

[dull pulsar]

its cute

[rancid falcon]

The mod even changes Morgana's line in the Ryuji Valentines day event from "I don't wanna be part of this loser's meeting" to "Don't you have any standards?"

[hollow owl]

I saw that some people were talking about the third semester

I don’t know anything about it, but I hope it ends with the Yoshizawa sisters united and as gymnastics duos again

[lapis tartan]

idk if he speaks the kansai dialect but usually words are translated like that in order to convey that

[lapis tartan]

spoiler thoughts but ||i think that's up to how you interpret what happens after the ending||

[dull pulsar]

which is cute imo

[hollow owl]

[radiant plume]

are you talking in terms of this mod or in general cuz i'm pretty sure the game is quite obvious with the ending lol

[dull pulsar]

most likely this mod
considering he is replying to hazel's question about rose and violet's ending

[radiant plume]

ah

i had a persona fan moment

cannot read

[hollow owl]

Yeah everyone was talking about the ending to the mod and it got me pretty excited

I’m really invested on how Kasumi’s story ends

[lapis tartan]

I mean more so it's up to the player to decide what happens to the characters

After the end

So that applies to the mod and the vanilla game

[dull pulsar]

didnt persona 5 striker kinda tell you what happen at the end of vanilla?

as it technically happen 1 years after p5

[lapis tartan]

Kinda

But I'm talking more broadly

If, after this mod's chronology, you want to believe Kasumi is back to gymnastics, then believe so.

Or if you want to imagine Joker prepping to become, say, a cafe owner.

Believe that

[rich tree]

typo should be It's

[random hinge]

Added, Thanks! I had a hard finding the typo as well, ahah

[random hinge]

Added, thanks

[random hinge]

Added, thanks!

[random hinge]

It seems I had already fixed that one. You're probably not using the latest hotfix

[gloomy burrow]

oh i hadnt checked thank you

[lapis tartan]

https://gamebanana.com/mods/475015

barring the fact this is obviously not rewritten, would this mess with R&V in any way?

[random hinge]

I think it should work

[lapis tartan]

Cool

I suppose I'll know for sure whenever I get to it then

[solar igloo]

For anyone using the Crossword Puzzle Cheat Sheet it makes the scenes in Leblanc like Sojiro saying Country boy instead of girl or guy instead of kid

[rapid mural]

Maybe finishing Persona 3 won't be so bad since I haven't even gotten to Futaba in this mod yet.

Hell, I spent today with a stomachache writing Kotone fanfic.

Well both p3 and R and V(and to a lesser extent p5royal) are hard to write anything for until you are almost at the end of the game.

(Too many twists Zylvos!!! Geez！)

Unless its maybe easter eggs and stuff.

Like Maiko Oohashi from P3 would be 16 in p5royal.

She moves out if town at some point in p3.

She could be posting to the phansite right now.

Wild eh?

[cobalt notch]

where's the download for the beta for this?

I can't find it XD

never mind i found it

But one question about the model stuff where do we put that?

Like the brown haired model thing

[cobalt notch]

Figured it out nvm this too XD

[hybrid delta]

Noticed while play that the animation for the interrogation room at the very beginning, the animations aren't fully lined up. The man giving the clipboard stomps on nothing, and Kasumi's hand doesn't grab the clipboard or pen, unless I did something wrong and they should be fixed to line up. Camera is also a bit high in the beginning scenes, focusing on her forehead

I could be doing something completely wrong, I'm still new to using mods on P5R

[cobalt notch]

Noticed that on 4/12 when you are at the palace entrance the text for ryuji still says ...thanks, Man and wasn't changed at all.

it's on 4/12 in the cutscene when you meet morgana again

[atomic crypt]

Hello everyone,
do you know if the mod works on Steam deck ?

Linux

[hollow owl]

Well I play the mod on Linux on pc, I hope that helps

I did have to download the required files for it to properly work

[atomic crypt]

sweet

[spare oak]

yes

I have had no real issues

[random hinge]

Animations are handled by Wisteria's mod. There are some animations that are very difficult be fixed (like the clipboard thing) so it's probably going to stay like that

[random hinge]

I'll check, but I probably decided to keep it. Ryuji says "man" and "dude" all the time, even to Ann

[kind shell]

Saw another guy mention it not sure if seen or relplied sorrrry just wanna g et back too the game but dfhigudfgdf . Obv I picked it

[random hinge]

Yes, I saw. I'm working on removing the bathhouse option

[humble trail]

did anyone ahs this problem where sojiro rank 2 take 2 session to go to rank 3?

[spare oak]

sounds like persona 5 to me

[rich tree]

If I remember right I think you need to brew coffee at least once to move from 2 to 3

[humble trail]

yeah thanks i forgot about the coffee

[hollow owl]

I’m so happy

Getting to the part where Kasumi and Futaba call each other sisters

It melts my heart

[novel echo]

This mod is broken actually, boss fight event gives you black screen
I kinda managed to fix it for me by recompiling its files, but not sure if it would work with massive overhaul
Somebody more knowledgeable could probably fix it properly

[lapis tartan]

i see

[kind shell]

daww

[kind shell]

genuiently adorable

genuinely

[hollow owl]

Yep

[vast fog]

Typo in Futaba rank 8 phone call w/ confidant cheat sheet (should be "Congratulations!")

ah shoot image quality sucked oops (my steam deck wasn't behaving so i just took the image from the screenshots directory and it's super compressed haha)

top option says "Congratulation!(+2)" rn

[lapis tartan]

technically it is correct

just a less common way to say it

actually

maybe not in the second person

[vast fog]

really? i've never heard anyone say it that way in my life

[lapis tartan]

maybe i'm thinking of referring to the third person

[vast fog]

according to the dictionary you can say "he began pumping the hand of his son in congratulation"

but that's different from this context yeah

[lapis tartan]

i'd probably just change it your recommendation to be safe

[tropic torrent]

takemi rank 2 dialogue issue

[random hinge]

You're not using the Rose & Violet Confidant Cheat sheet

[tropic torrent]

is it the sumire overhaul one?

[random hinge]

No, in my drive, there's a confidant cheat sheet mod compatible with Rose & Violet

Don't use the Confidant Cheat sheet from Gamebanana

[tropic torrent]

i'll check it

[random hinge]

You're probably using the Alternate model mod from Gamebanana as well. You should use the one in the drive folder if you want to play with Wisteria's test build

[random hinge]

Yeah, it should be with an S. Thanks, I'll fix it in the next update

[rich tree]

anyone know of a mod thats compatable that would allow me to use outfits outside the metaverse?

[random hinge]

There's a config option in Costume Framework

[rich tree]

ok

[random hinge]

Overworld outfits

[rich tree]

i think i tested that and it locked her to only one outfit

and nothing i changed in game fixed it

[lethal geode]

its experimental

[rich tree]

ok

[wispy bane]

how I can download the beta to test it out before full release? I can seem to find it in this thread xD

[tribal scroll]

PaulV300

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Zylvos

Rose & Violet Beta 1 - Hotfix 3
The following mods have been updated:

• Confidant cheat sheet
• Rose & Violet Story Overhaul

Please, update to the latest version of those mods to make sure the report are accurate. To do so, delete the folder with the previous version and replace it with the new version.

Changelog:

Confidant Cheat sheet:

• Typos have been fixed.
• Some dialogues have been edited thanks to Grinchula's proofreading. Thanks!

Rose & Violet Story Overhaul:

• Typos have been fixed.
• Fixed the softlocks happening in Futaba's palace (For example : interacting with the gem statues, interacting with the final elevator).
• Some dialogues have been edited thanks to Grinchula's proofreading. Thanks!

Load order setup:

• Updated the author's name for Costume Framework to "Ryotune".
• Updated the "Kasumi as Protagonist" mod name to "Kasumi as Protagonist - Pre-release Build".
• Updated the "Kasumi as Protagonist - Alternate models" mod name to "Kasumi as Protagonist - Alternate models Test build".

Reminder:

• Make sure Custom Bonus Tweaks (version 2.5.2+) and Persona Essentials (version 2.9.2+) are up to date.
• Don't use the alternate models mod on Gamebanana. It is outdated and will not work with Wisteria's latest test build.
• Make sure Wisteria's test build is up to date.

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[tropic torrent]

do you guys have weird sitting in class position and in interrogation room?

[vast fog]

yeah I think it’s just kasumi’s models being weird with joker’s animations

there’s a bunch of random clipping with the models but it’s not really a big deal and probably a hassle to fix

[tropic torrent]

yeah I only want to make sure it's not a me problem, it just clips like 1 frame down

[wispy bane]

I actually install the mod rn, but I've a doubt. I know it may be pretty dumb to ask this, but there are any plans in the long future to replace Joker for Kasumi in the anime cutscenes of the game?

[dull pulsar]

pretty sure that nearly imposible to do

[radiant plume]

if you'd like to redraw all of joker's scenes then be my guest
otherwise nah lol

[wispy bane]

I figure it was impossible, that's why I say it was a dumb question. Anyway, I'm very grateful for all the job done with this mod

[rich tree]

ok I guess had something that was conflicting before. The option in costume framework is working fine now. I did clean up my mod list and removed the old female joker protag mod so that may have been what caused the outfit issue

[rich tree]

that will teach me to just remove mods entirely... instead of just leaving them in the folder

[lapis tartan]

should make it in ai

that'd be funny

[dull pulsar]

i mean
it would definitely be funny af
but probably a bad idea

considering ai have a tendency to change minor detail when asking to make an animation

[rich tree]

I am glad the mod removes the waking up next to morgana at the start of 3rd semester >.<

i just got to that part

[lapis tartan]

it does?

that scene was there when i played it

[dull pulsar]

huh
i thought the first time we meet mona in 3rd semester is him drinking coffee down stair

did i misremember?

[rich tree]

yeah nvm

i didnt get far enough lol

i forgot its after the shrine

[random hinge]

Make sure you have Wisteria's latest test build, not the mod on the Gamebanana. Those animations were fixed a long time ago

[humble trail]

Does akechi need a matching persona for confidant level up bonus?

[dull pulsar]

yes

iirc
moon,sun dont require matching persona
magician and fool upgrade automatically

[raw marlin]

Sun is Yoshida right?

[dull pulsar]

yes

sun and moon is one of the few where you can reach max rank without matching persona as long as you pick the correct text

[spare oak]

same with judgement

for the auto upgrade

[vernal field]

Im hoping someone can help me. I was pretty certain I had my load order correct in the launcher, but when I try to run the mod I still have Sumi rather than Kasumi, and they call her violet in the text.

[random hinge]

Don't use
Custom Bonus Tweaks (Kasumi compatibility patch)
Kasumi over Joker voice patch - CBT edition

Skill compliment addon is probably a config option in the mod above it

Finally:
Use the alternate model mod that's in my drive, not the one on Gamebanana

[vernal field]

I didn't use gamebanana

[random hinge]

And update Rose & Violet and the confidant cheat sheet

[random hinge]

Your alternate model mod says 1.2.1. It should say 1.3.0 HF 2 iirc

Delete the mod folder for version 1.2.1

It has the same mod id as the new version, so Reloaded only shows one

[vernal field]

👌

[vernal field]

IT WORKS! TYSM

[lofty badge]

Hello, it says on the guide I have to edit Kasumi as protagonist and it doesn't allow me to.

What should I do on this one?

[random hinge]

You must download and install the pre-release version that's pinned in Wisteria's thread. This version of the mod can be configured, not the version from Gamebanana

[tropic torrent]

is the 5/12 shopping event new? I don't remember it in the base game

[humble trail]

Does enemy break out of status ailment if they are attacked?

[spare oak]

usually yeah

[humble trail]

What ailments will be removed in this case?

[spare oak]

depends which status

shock and freeze are the only ones i can think of

shock has a chance to transfer on physical attacks

[random hinge]

Already fixed in the latest hotfix. You might not be using the latest version

[static ermine]

I just finished the mod

I....

Oh god Zylvos you made me re experience the game all over again as if i were playing it for the forst time

I now can never simply play the game without also playing Rose and Violet. This mod...its story...its all simply perfection. PERFECTION!

I love the story of Kasumi Yoshizawa. Her trials and turbulations as the Trickster. And her relationship with everyone. From her friends. Family. And most of all. Her sister.

This mod is peak. The story is peak. This...all of this is so fucking peak!

You cooked with this mod and its a 100 star FEAST!

i cannot wait to see what the future lies for this mod when it fully releases!

[floral hill]

Glazing that isn’t deserved!!!!! (this is a joke, he did amazing)

[static ermine]

So amazing i really am tempted to make a fanfic that tackles continuing the story of this mod in strikers

Because holy lee shit there's alot of potential of the strikers time-frame after the events of this mod

[sly lantern]

Not sure if this has been sent before, but i think i found a typo, chose is supposed to be choose
Occurs on 6/9 at the TV Station

[rapid mural]

the betafemc team has a 2026 tentative goal of replacing the 2d anime cutscenes with 3D.

When ever that happens because My god the amount of coding and math would be like a Davinci:

I think it might be possible to see some interesting changes in the Persona modding scenes.

Because if in "Some Future 2026" There are rendered Cutscenes for everything someone will eventually find a way to do model swaps for them.

But Zylvos and Wisteria are I am sure very happy if anyone wants to hand draw Kasumi into the anime cutscenes in the mean time.

So say we all

[radiant plume]

compared to p3fes, p5(r) has a shitton more cutscenes

i doubt anyone would want to redraw every cutscene frame with kasumi instead of ren

[rich tree]

i agree 100%

[random hinge]

Thanks! I'll fix it in the next update

[random hinge]

Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed my mod so much!
Of course, it wouldn't be so enjoyable without all the people that contributed to it and Wisteria's mod. I'm very happy it turned out so well.

Here's a little sneak peek of what's coming in the next update. It's still a work in progress since it involves a bit of event editing, but I think you can guess what this is about.

[sly lantern]

Glad i could help out, very much looking forward to the future updates of this mod

[rapid mural]

Yeah. I can see why Betafemc team is working on the 3d modeling because thats about freedom. but...

redrawing Kasumi just to fit into cutscenes well, If I had the talent I would I dunno create new scenes for fun (edited)

(edit)

Or just sit around and paint and make Kotone Aigis yukari art all day

probably just paint all day

[radiant plume]

i think you're forgetting that modders do this as a hobby and not as a job

[oak egret]

Hi hi, I just started playing and I have all the mods needed in order for the mod to work - so gameplay works, but I was wondering how I could fix Kasumi's model because they both look like Sumire ?

If anyone would be kind enough to help

[dull pulsar]

what?

[rapid mural]

i think I phrased it poorly.

(it would be really tedious and very low reward for something that is done for fun... which is what I meant by saying I would make art all day)

Apologies I am not good with explaining things always.

[random hinge]

Make sure you're not using the alternate model mod from Gamebanana (version 1.2.1). Instead, delete it from your Mods folder and install the alternate model mod in my drive where you found the beta (should be version 1.3.0 HF2 if I remember correctly)

[oak egret]

I uh actually don't have that mod in my list to begin with

[solar igloo]

Pov Kasumi won the card game

[lyric willow]

Kasumi sleeping in the bed with her sandals on what a monster smh

[spare oak]

she sleeps with shoes on often lowkey

[random hinge]

Yeah, she'll keep her shoes on for that one. The flag or whatever allows the shoes to be hidden isn't working here, even after editing the model's material. I don't feel like spending days on fixing that

[rapid mural]

I didn't look but I think I will wait till the next update before I return because that spoiler box has me very excited!

I mean someone was talking about Strikers!

(which I enjoy storywise but why dis they pick hack and slash)

excited for next update

[humble trail]

hey for kawakmi from rank 6 to 7 you need request her twice?

[lapis tartan]

Wow I was just there on my run and missed that

[humble trail]

anyone know this? cause i cant rank up from 6 to 7 with just 1 request

[granite wren]

Sounds like typical Persona to me

[lapis tartan]

Yeah you just need to do the extra request

Remember this game has a decent amount of nothing to do, especially at night

So don't worry about it

[lapis tartan]

i was browsing GB and found this https://gamebanana.com/mods/470666

thought to myself, too bad

i liked these in p4

but it hasn't been updated in forever

nor would it work with R&V

[terse basalt]

so im at the beginning of the game, and it wont let me progress past the all-out-attack tutorial bc kasumi doesnt have an attack that's strong against the shadow so i cant knock down (and i cant use other skills)

[random hinge]

This is unrelated to Rose & Violet. I suppose you are using a replacer for Arsène with Cendrillon skillset? (Maybe the config option in Wisteria's mod?)
Anyway, you need to download and install the "Weapon & Equipment patch" in the "Addons" folder in my drive. It will give Eiha to the protagonist's base accessory to bypass that softlock

[terse basalt]

alright thank you

[peak drift]

I went to college for animation it’s fun but it’s long and tedious. It would take a ton of time. It took a year and a half to make a 10 minute film with 10 people working on it and I was working like 40 hrs a week. To animate all the cutscenes it would take forever.

[static ermine]

My take on the anime stuff

It would be nice

But probably shouldn't be done if its too much effort and too much resources

Maybe something to add after the mod is released?

But definitely not right now and certainly shouldn't be the first thing to focus on after the mod is released.

If anything if it were to be done it should be the second to last or last thing to be added.

Just my two cents

For right now tho ya can just headcanon it as the original timeline leaking in on occasion or something like that to add to the whole 3rd semester fun stuff

[rancid falcon]

What's Ryuji doing in the girls room?????

[dull pulsar]

isnt that event the hawaii event where joker and the gang have a sleepover in the room?

iirc
only futaba and yusuke not there cause not part of the same school

[raw marlin]

Yes

[jagged dome]

How much story difference is there in Okumuras palace, between the beginning and end of the infiltration?

[lilac jackal]

Does anyone know where to grab the latest beta build for this? Thank you in advance!

[tribal scroll]

soafie

[Reply to:](#1351304235320348683 message) Does anyone know where to grab the latest beta build for this? Thank you in advance!

Zylvos

Rose & Violet Beta 1 - Hotfix 3
The following mods have been updated:

• Confidant cheat sheet
• Rose & Violet Story Overhaul

Please, update to the latest version of those mods to make sure the report are accurate. To do so, delete the folder with the previous version and replace it with the new version.

Changelog:

Confidant Cheat sheet:

• Typos have been fixed.
• Some dialogues have been edited thanks to Grinchula's proofreading. Thanks!

Rose & Violet Story Overhaul:

• Typos have been fixed.
• Fixed the softlocks happening in Futaba's palace (For example : interacting with the gem statues, interacting with the final elevator).
• Some dialogues have been edited thanks to Grinchula's proofreading. Thanks!

Load order setup:

• Updated the author's name for Costume Framework to "Ryotune".
• Updated the "Kasumi as Protagonist" mod name to "Kasumi as Protagonist - Pre-release Build".
• Updated the "Kasumi as Protagonist - Alternate models" mod name to "Kasumi as Protagonist - Alternate models Test build".

Reminder:

• Make sure Custom Bonus Tweaks (version 2.5.2+) and Persona Essentials (version 2.9.2+) are up to date.
• Don't use the alternate models mod on Gamebanana. It is outdated and will not work with Wisteria's latest test build.
• Make sure Wisteria's test build is up to date.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cpFZisgX0PqGAvu2LipYZ1fk-YIziilB?usp=drive_link

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[dull pulsar]

no pinned message
so make do with this

[jagged dome]

Because this is honestly my least favorite palace, and if there’s really no difference between Haru’s Awakening and finding the treasure, I’ll just use the mod menu to go to the final field

[lilac jackal]

Thank you very much! I think I'm too tired and dumb to figure out how to set this up rn tho, but I really appreciate the links!

[jagged dome]

@random hinge

[dull pulsar]

seriously
what is wrong with okumura's palace and up?

[jagged dome]

Wym?

I just don’t like Okumura’s palace period, I like the others

[dull pulsar]

i just seem to see a lot of people hate okumura's palace

[radiant plume]

i hate it cuz they force a stupid ass arc on morgana to start it instead of it starting naturally lmao

[jagged dome]

Well fair, the palace kinda sucks, the music there kinda sucks, the story arc MAJORLY sucks

[dull pulsar]

so not because of the mechanic?

i hate sae's palace purely cause of the bloody dark room

[jagged dome]

That’s what I mean by palace sucking, you fight enemies, and the only puzzles are a timer, and the stupid airlock puzzle

[radiant plume]

third eye makes the dark room barely even a challenge

[jagged dome]

At least there, the music is good

[radiant plume]

[jagged dome]

Fuck you sweatshop

[dull pulsar]

did that
still feel like a bloody maze

[radiant plume]

okumura's palace also drags on for so goddamn long

[dull pulsar]

i just hate any map/mechanic that make me feel like im in a maze

[jagged dome]

That’s why I want to know if there’s any story changes, if not, I’ll use a mod menu and just skip to the treasure

[dull pulsar]

iirc
no?

[radiant plume]

mod meu

careful with using a mod meu, even if it's small stuff like skipping dates
make a backup just in case :3

[dull pulsar]

pretty sure the main story is still roughly the same with just minor change

[jagged dome]

“Hope you enjoyed Okumura’s palace everybody, go fuck yourselves” (hope someone gets my reference)

[random hinge]

It should be fine storywise after Haru's awakening. I don't remember any significant dialogue edits in this palace. Just be careful with mod menu and backup your save like Rin mentionned. If skipping the palace messes up a flag, you might need to reload the save and do the palace normally

[jagged dome]

I can’t think of any flags between after her awakening and finding the treasure

I already have the network fusions

[random hinge]

Well, if it messes with a flag, it could be related to Okumura's treasure, so you'll know soon enough if you can't send the calling card or return to the safe room before the boss

[jagged dome]

I did the same with Futaba due to the gem bug

And it worked fine

Once I sent the card, the door in front of the elevator was gone even though I never “opened” it

[random hinge]

Alright. I still recommend backing up your save, just in case

[jagged dome]

I’m guessing the next palaces are the ones with bigger changes

[random hinge]

Well, there's more dialogues in the next two palaces. The pool scene in Shido's palace is changed for instance

[dull pulsar]

ah yes
the funny "ann windsor and her retainer/maid"

[random hinge]

Yeah, you could say she's got one more maid in her retinue

[rapid mural]

In P3 I always joke that Kotone "Hey Yukari I Just had this wild dream I had blue hair and was wearing Black trousers!"

(I think I have made Kotne's blue hair hallucinations a werid headcanon at this point I dunno)

But yeah... its definitely like a long term thing to do when you are thinking "Hmm, what might be fun to day?"

I used to do artistitic photo manipulation.

That could take hours. I loved it as I did it from a art standpoint. Same when I used to edit audio files for my long lost demo.

And thats just editing.

Its why I was so overwhelmed by all the Kasumi pictures in thieves den.

Because I actually know how much work that can take, even if I dont have the drawimg talent.

TLFR: headcanon as the ALTERNATE timeline leaking in haha.

Who is ren??

haha

[dull pulsar]

ren?
do you mean rent?

[rapid mural]

who is rent?

[dull pulsar]

you

[rapid mural]

I am Fushikio, Ruler of Mysteriousness.

Ren Amamiya is the name of Joker if in some versions of p5 you dont change the name and the anime.

[dull pulsar]

right
i sometimes keep forgetting they have official name

[granite wren]

If it ever does get done it should be like Crash Mind over Mutant where every cutscene has a different artstyle

[rapid mural]

Well if the Beta Femc project does what I think that roadmap is implying it al depends on what people can do with model replacement.

Because although the 2026 part is mostly teases...

I think it indicates just redoing the anime cutscenes as just rendered ones which well..

As a writer I really admire both Wisteria and Zylvos for taking their vision so public because I can handle thee xhaustion of writing stories just barely.

But eveb thiugh I want to do event editing for fun story stuff...

Its just as and even more tiring than writng a story about Kotone.

AND I LOVE Kotone.

[granite wren]

I'm pretty sure the pre-rendered ones were de-pre rendered by Custom Bonus Tweaks so I was thinking the anime cutscenes should just be like Mjnd over Mutants and change every time

https://youtu.be/LuqGllxMSZg?si=i-SzWSvqaazOx_O_

[rapid mural]

honestly considering both the themes and Ahem... how p5r's story changes in november-january--- They should have considered this from launch.

I think they just shoved in cutscenes from the anime series?

Which I get it due to how time consuming animation always has been and still is.

But man...

If that first scene:

Ren had been a weird little stick figure looking to delete an app?

I would have been hooked way faster.

puppet sorry

stick figure would uve worked too

[dull pulsar]

isnt the anime way after p5 is finished?

[granite wren]

The anime came after release so any shared animation was taken from the game

[dull pulsar]

yeah
so im confuse why fushikio say p5r shoved cutscene taken from the anime

unless i missinterpret what that saying

[granite wren]

But yeah I kinda wish more games did it, it made each new cutscene a surprise as you didn't know what you'd get
There was a South Park-styled one with Cortex for example

[humble trail]

for confidants from rank 9 to 10 you need to hang out twice?

[rapid mural]

Even when I believe I romanced Ann I think I still needed an additional hangout.

But depending on the character Zylvos has written new dialogue so make sure to pick the option "lets go somewhere" so you actually have an event like Harajuku or the ramen place.

I deliberately avoided bringing matching arcana to some of the confidants because I wanted to see some of the dialogue tweaks.

TLFR: in p5r romance or platonic always needs extra steps between nine and ten.

Nirmally you go to sushi, the park or somewhere and often get a neat gift!

enjoy the ride

[dull pulsar]

uhm
do any of you guys encounter a freeze during the 3rd semester final fight?

kinda froze here

probably cause i can down maruki

[random hinge]

Hum, I don't remember, but are you even supposed to be able to down shot him?

A few people have finished the game with my mod so it seems to be fine otherwise

[rich tree]

as far as i know no you can not

short of using cheats or a mod that may allow it

I will keep an eye on the fight though I am in the final palace now on my first full run of rose and violet

[random hinge]

Yeah, I don't think you can down shot a boss normally. There's a few scripted moments where you "hold up" the boss, but i don't remember this happening Maruki

[dull pulsar]

damn
gues the royal heist mod fricked it

[random hinge]

Well, don't use down shot (if that's what happened here)

[dull pulsar]

uhm
it was a crit down

[random hinge]

Oh

Yeah, you can't crit bosses in the base game, so that's probably Royal Heist

[dull pulsar]

well
good to know its the fact that i downed maruki that causing that freeze

[rich tree]

never heard of that mod

only extra mods I run beside rose and violet is long hair Ann and pony tail haru

and to bypass the headache of the str confidant I use the bribe mod but turn it off after I rank 10 them

[dull pulsar]

hmm

[dull pulsar]

its a gameplay overhaul mod aim at "rebalancing" the combat

[pure inlet]

I mean, you’re at Maruki’s fight now, so: did you enjoy it?

I was planning on downloading it too…

[dull pulsar]

uhm
yes?

i just 2 shot him

well
i dont really fully download the mod

i just took the encount.tbl of royal heist mod

[pure inlet]

Oh I see

[tight linden]

When I start the game I am at the end of Kamoshida's arc, 1 day before expulsion. I have checked configs for all mods and can't find anything checked to skip it

[random hinge]

Update Persona Essentials to version 2.9.2

You probably have an outdated version

[tight linden]

Yeah I caught that just before you sent that, thank you

[stiff narwhal]

h

[proper niche]

Hello! I have a question. Is there a hair down version for your Alternate Models mod? The one you see when you sleep and go to the cell? I tried looking for it but I could be blind. @random hinge

[stiff narwhal]

I’m going to assume it normal for there to be some clipping and general wonkiness in cutscenes?

[dull pulsar]

yes

[naive stream]

I believe this is a typo? Post-confidant phone call after Rank 7

[dull pulsar]

tough

[sly lantern]

Found a typo for the second dialogue option
Supposed to be : "I'll need a training regimen..."
Occurs on 6/10 during the newly added event after the tv station visit

[radiant plume]

a crepe

hon hon hon

oui oui

[sly lantern]

Looking at the image again i just noticed it captured my discord overlay lol

ah well

[random hinge]

Hi there. Not with this hair. There's another hair down version that uses Kotone's hair from P5X (made with MyTamagos' help). It even has different menu arts and portraits

[random hinge]

Added, thanks!

[random hinge]

Added, thanks!

[proper niche]

That's the one I was using, but I giggled every time the hair floated in the air when Kasumi was looking down at something. Thanks for the reply anyway! And I love all the work you and everyone else put into this. I have owned Persona 5 since it came out and these mods will be the reason I finish this game for the first time.

https://tenor.com/view/floreyonce-cat-kitty-pussycat-love-you-gif-1407003454344358310

[lyric willow]

does anyone know if Bedhead Becky is compatible with R&V?

https://gamebanana.com/mods/412852 this one

[random hinge]

It should be compatible. It changes only the bustups and the maid model, not the dialogues themselves

[lyric willow]

I figured it would be cause of that, thanks!

[rapid mural]

speakin of p5x I laugh everytime I see some of the Pencil art scenes. (the menus)

Wonder identifies as male but the pencil art is really close to what Wisteria/Zylvos uses for the pencil art in the menu screens for Kasumi.

I kinda adore wonder because of it.

He's the only male protagonist I have liked since Yu from p4(who also had a tomboy best friend who was an athlete)

[spare oak]

wonder may be the twinkiest persona protagonist

[left knoll]

couple of typos i caught last night.
-ropped (should be roped)
-missing the s in "gets" and the e in "treatement"
-male pronoun in the first twins hangout event

[rancid falcon]

Ah whoopsie doopsie. That first one's on me.

[left knoll]

it happens even i get that one sometimes lol

[random hinge]

All added, thanks for the report!

[pure inlet]

Wait

A question if you please

That mod changes both the model and the portrait so Kawakami has the default hair, and makes no changes to dialogs

There's a mod similar to that which is Classic Uniforms, which does the same (altering portrait and models and have no bearance on dialogue), which I’m using without problem up until now (2nd palace)

so the incompatiblity with the cat morgana bustup is due to dialogue changes?

[random hinge]

Yes

If the mod replaces the portrait in dialogues (= BF and BMDs), it's not compatible

If the bustups themselves are edited, it's compatible

[pure inlet]

oh, I see

well, shame

[hollow owl]

I just finished rose and violet

I love it so much

Can’t wait for the full release

this melted my heart

[humble trail]

guys is tertraja useful in game?

[buoyant arch]

kinda

not worth it imo but it's there

[granite wren]

Not at all honestly
There's Homunculi and I think there's accessories that do it too

[lapis tartan]

Yes

I use it

No problems with it

[lyric willow]

https://tenor.com/view/kay-faraday-yippee-gif-15496001924358746960

[rich tree]

also long hair ann and pony tail haru work with zero problems I run both and now I think ill add on the becky mod

[spare oak]

i have glasses makoto and it works so yea

[rich tree]

im almost done with my first full rose and violet run with the long hair kasumi version. Going to switch to pony tail for my next one

[spare oak]

shouldn't that have been the other way around 🤔

[humble trail]

How to get choco fountain? I heard I am getting it from her soon, I am about to get Ann to rank 10...

[bright hawk]

that's just a specific date or a hangout with her after rank 10, like vanilla

[granite wren]

It's one of the outing ones
take her to the buffet again

[humble trail]

Must be after rank 10?

Or can I get it during the hangout that is getting her to rank 10

[rich tree]

hang out with her and take her to the wilton buffet (click on shibuya for it to pop up)

and yes after rank 10

[rich tree]

typo

[random hinge]

This one should be fixed in the latest update

[rich tree]

did i miss an update?

[random hinge]

#1351304235320348683 message

This is the latest update

Yeah, updates are going to be easier to manage once the mod releases. I can't notify everyone unless I ping everyone in this thread

[rich tree]

this is the version i have now

[radiant plume]

zylvos just linked hotfix 3