P3P PC - P3R portraits

[sharp spade]

or where is it rather

(the mitsuru one)

if that's just the tex2 one, that's fine

should have that one already

[jolly path]

Texture would be in tex2 I believe, cutin C4_* something like that (I don't remember the paths lol)

[sharp spade]

alright ive already got that then, cool

?????

[jolly path]

Oh that's gore that's gore of my comfort shinji

They tore his arm off 💔

I'm guessing they did that BC the texture/sprite doesn't extend all the way to the left side of the screen (there's a gap no matter what) so Shinji would end up being cutoff weirdly if they didn't do that?? Idk

[sharp spade]

i am now seeing that issue...

and the p3r bustups certainly do not help here

it's over

like going with this and adding this??? gg

[jolly path]

This would've been much easier if p3p's field message style was like P3F's where it's 1) cropped to characters faces and 2) faded out around all the edges so it looks fine no matter what 😔

[sharp spade]

yeah....

yeah this is a problem

hmmm this isnt too bad

is it great? no it's too far to the right but i cant do much better with just texture replacement

[jolly path]

Yeah at minimum this would need actual spr editing for better than this which I thiiiiink might be possible but I know nothing about how that would be done 😭 even then it would probably only help so much too

That does look good enough though at least

[sharp spade]

i have no idea how spr editing works either and tbh i cba to find out

[jolly path]

[sharp spade]

as it is im just manually editing and placing back in the sprs bc idc enough

[jolly path]

Not even using spr merging huh

Ig it doesn't matter for this lol

[sharp spade]

no, but i guess i should

sigh let me find some documentation on spr merging bc idk how it works...

wait, you can have custom texture sizes?

this looks a little better

honestly though it would be nice to have larger textures given these are frankly low res

(in a noticeable way)

im doing something wrong with spr merging i think...

not sure what i'm doing wrong 💀

wish i knew some mods that used spr merging for reference

i found exactly ONE

and it's an unreleased mod lmao

ok so the documentation is just straight up wrong i think?

maybe?

[jade tide]

Hii sorry I haven't been home today, the bustups are done I'd just need to check that the folders are right and all that when I get back so I'll send them today

[sharp spade]

oh did you manually sort them

i actually would've preferred you leave them in the original format tbh...

[jade tide]

I have both

[sharp spade]

oh cool cool

[sharp spade]

well, i think this is the best i can do for mitsuru to avoid major clipping on the left side

the hair is wrong but i mean idk what else to do there

im not exactly a good artist haha

[jolly path]

I guess one theoretical option would be to just fade out the texture if it's going to clip but idk how good that would actually look in game lol

Would clash a bit stylistically since the style of the p3p field messages is to have sharp cut off edges unlike the more transparent "ghostly" ones of FES but it would work at least?

Fwiw though I think your edit is pretty good :3 I doubt most people would really notice or care that it's maybe a bit off lol

[sharp spade]

yeah i might just stick with this for right now

same deal with shinji although this also looks alright since the main thing that's wrong, the jacket, can't be seen anyways

(ingame)

hey @strong bone, a real quick (hopefully) question for you - in your P4G CSM code, you have that compatibility patch for Kuma over Teddie.
on this line you define private IBfEmulator _bfEmulator; and I assume that is used for the section where you check loaded mods after CSM is loaded (line 89). How would I adapt this for CriFS? Are there any mods out there with similar functionality that use CriFS instead of FileEmulationFramework?

[hallow terrace]

i mean wouldnt it be fine if she wasnt flipped? her regular portrait edits dont flip her either, no?

also i know you guys mentioned wishing it was possible to have certain specific sprites for existing characters and like. i was planning on doing a mod that replaces certain p3r sprites by redrawing and replicating certain sprites from p3/p but that was something i was planning to do way later in the future (like more than half a yr kind of far) so if i ever do get to doing that you already have my permission to use those but adakcsnsaiaxn

its definitely not something im planning approaching anytime soon due to many many reasons

its been in the back of my mind for a few months but it just requires me to get super familiar w actually drawing in reload style and its intensive work to replicate stuff 1:1 in a manner im satisfied 😭

[sharp spade]

that's super understandable, definitely looking forward to that if you ever get around to it. appreciate getting permission too haha

didn't you also draw some femc route bustups for femc reload or am i mistaken?

do still need to look into saori/rio at some point

[sharp spade]

it probably would lead to weird cropping issues on the left side. her regular portrait isn't flipped but that bit also isn't an issue unlike with these textures

[jade tide]

that'd be awesome, both for the mod and in general

[sharp spade]

man....

seems to affect everyone to some extent... i'm guessing it's due to the partly transparent pixels from downscaling

[jolly path]

oh yeah that would happen

[sharp spade]

can i get around that at all with the downscaling script?

[jolly path]

Uhhh maybe but im not entirely sure 🤔

The main thing is that ideally the way to change the scaling would be to scale the RGB channels with filtering then the alpha channel with no filtering but that can't be done in just one command i don't think

[sharp spade]

well, i mean it is a batch script

should be possible to do multiple cmds

i have an alternative idea that might make it look a little cleaner

consider the blinking texture a layer, merge with the base bustup

then afterwards, run the downscaling stuff

hopefully just eliminate the transparency issue altogether

[jolly path]

so basically the m*_*_* texture would basically just be a crop of the main bustup with the blink layered on top?

That would work yeah

[sharp spade]

yeah

seems easier

[jolly path]

Yeah and the original way i was thinking too (scale RGB and alpha seperately) would be doable but not only would it make like 2 additional images in the process but the alpha does just look overly sharp as a result and its not really the best looking so that would probably work out better overall

[sharp spade]

alright, I think I'll give that a shot then

hopefully it works out

i think it does work i just need to figure out how to script it

so I think I would take the m files

then I need to somehow specify the standard bustups

think I've got something. maybe

ok, no i don't

man this batch stuff is driving me crazy

[jade tide]

@sharp spade did you see the folder i sent?

[sharp spade]

yeah, i did, thanks. sorry, i was focused on scripting stuff but i did download it already

[sharp spade]

got a script together wooooo

so much more pain than than i expected

ok. this method definitely works. we're so back

it is no longer kotover

my scripts arent perfect but they are certainly good enough

all this stuff makes me wonder how the p3p psp mod did it and how the quality for that one really was ngl

[sharp spade]

I've been doing a lot of scripting but it's all coming together now. I think I should be able to get an initial mod release out tomorrow or Tuesday

I'm basically a batch script expert now btw. if u even care (thanks schmuck 😭)

things left to do: touch up some portraits, add the missing P3P exclusive portraits (idek what I'm gonna do for them ngl), add the event specific bustups

maybe look into some desaturation stuff briefly

[jolly path]

i have successfully infected you with .bat disease

[sharp spade]

I've learned that batch scripting fucking sucks

😔

like oh my god is it finicky

[jolly path]

it really is one of those "you get used to it" deals kjgslkj

eventually you figure out the quirks and work around them but it do be finicky...

[sharp spade]

yeahhhhh

man

it's nothing like any coding language I've used before

anyways. i put together a pretty thumbnail (i tend to use pink for p3p mods)

[jolly path]

could probably use an outline on the text but ayyy that looks nice

[sharp spade]

i probably should've asked lullaby what chara they wanted since this was a request they made

but i just chose yukari bc i like yukari :D

[sharp spade]

what color?

do you think it should be a flat outline or should it be more like a glow sort of deal

[jolly path]

Hmmm

flat would pop out more and i think since the bg is a gradient it would prob look better too

but i don't have the source file to check myself so uh whichever looks nicer to you

[sharp spade]

i work in paint.net so i can send you the source but you might not be able to do much with it lol

[jolly path]

if the text/logos are on a different layer i could check p easily actually

[sharp spade]

i feel like white outline is not it

yeah sure

[jolly path]

yeahhh it stands out more but not the most appealing in this case lol

[sharp spade]

can also just send you the individual layer lol

yeah

so idk what color it should be

i could also do something like this

but yknow what maybe i'll let you experiment with it. need to get to bed soon anyways

[jade tide]

i dont know about the "bustups for" part but i love this outline for the game logos

[jolly path]

tried going for a drop shadow instead (similar to yukari) and i actually think this looks pretty nice myself

[sharp spade]

it does look nice but it definitely doesn't pop out as much anymore

but I guess you didn't really specify lol

[jolly path]

in comparision to the outline yeah lol, i probably should've replied to a diff message lol

pops out more than with no outline i think at least

i feel like this is too much of an eyesore unfortunately to go with but i do like a double outline like this more than just one white outline

[jade tide]

yeah that ones a lot 😭

[jolly path]

white with drop shadow actually looks really nice to me

[sharp spade]

thumbnails are so hard 😭

honestly I think that looks good tho

[jolly path]

tried a couple more things but eh couldn't really get anything else i was happy with, heres the pdn with my change (basically same as above screenshot) if you wanna take a crack again down the line (obv not now lol)

[sharp spade]

yeah I'll take a look tomorrow. thanks haha

tbh I'm kinda thinking about it more and I'm unsure if this mod will be done in the next few days or not 😔 those extra event bustups are quite substantial

[jolly path]

you mean the ones in the bst bins? i think those are just the same as in the normal bustup folder so you can just copy-paste the relevant folders since you're using bin merging

still super annoying but not thaaaat bad i dont really think

[sharp spade]

if they are that makes things a little easier although it still seems pretty tedious

yeah why did they even have separate ones anyways

are they stupid or something

[jolly path]

My best guess: P3P was released on a disc based system and it may have been intended as a seek time reducing method (and maybe padding too?)

Like if X events can be located super close to the needed bustups physically on disc then less chance of longer loads or stuttering in an event

Otherwise i have no fucking clue lmfao

[sharp spade]

P3P: developed for a portable console with limited space, cutscenes and stuff cut to save space
also ATLUS: let's just have a bunch of redundant files in the same fucking folder

that is possible yeah, it still feels really weird lol

man I can't believe persona 3 is so poorly coded /j

[jolly path]

I do want to assume that there is a sensible reason for it but no shot we'll ever learn what that reason was so all we can do is speculate and be befuddled by it in the modern day with the ports that didn't change that lol

[jolly path]

yeah i mean look at this super long if statement chain from ghidra, they don't even know how to code right smhm hmh /j

[sharp spade]

yeahhhh and the thing is, those stupid bsts make the mod like... idk at least 3x larger than it needs to be

[jolly path]

yeahhh nothing that can be done about that unfortunately

maybe it would be theoretically possible to make a code mod that makes the game not load from those bst bins and always just use the normal folder but like

for something so specific that also doesn't usually even make much difference for making bustup editing mods for P3P in particular i doubt anyone will take the long amount of time to look into doing that lol

[sharp spade]

yeah lol

I mean it would help it's just like, man, why did they even do this in the first place

at least I've got advanced scripts now though, I'm ready lol

if there ever needs to be more bustup work done for any reason it should be easier now

a lot of my time was spent writing those stupid scripts or troubleshooting them but I would've spent far more time if I had to do everything manually, anyways

[jolly path]

Oh absolutely 😭

[sharp spade]

at least this only took what, a week and a half probably? instead of probably like a month lol idk

if I had to do everything manually my workflow would've been quite different

(I would not bother )

[jolly path]

yeah and that was probably only bc you couldn't really dedicate all that much time to the project anyways

if you had the same restrictions but had to do EVERYTHING manually....

[sharp spade]

yeah probably a month or more lmao

and I'd thoroughly hate life by the end of it

that blinking issue was almost game over too

like if I didn't have scripts, it would be over

think I would've just lost the motivation and just decided, fuck it, everyone loses the ability to blink

[jolly path]

honestly yeah makes sense 😭

had something similar when i experimented with doing a P3F bustups port where needing to stretch the bustups to look right in P3P in addition to other issues (some the same as what you're running into) just made me go "nah this isn't worth it at all lol"

[strong bone]

I think it's basically the same. My Ng+ arcana bonus mod for p5r probably does it. I think it does something similar with the DLC rework mod but before bf emulator was a thing

[sharp spade]

ok. yeah I was trying to figure out what exactly I should replace it with bc I tried a few things and it ended up crashing on boot :D

[sharp spade]

a P3F bustups port? why, just the fact that it has less cropping for its portraits?

[jolly path]

yes

i like the bustups being cropped less lol

[sharp spade]

looks like P5R NG+ arcana only has the check for mods before it, not after it

I could just specify order lol

like oh load this mod before this

[hallow terrace]

admittedly i havent actually drawn any yet haha but i give a lot of feedback to people about theirs if they wanted advice

[hallow terrace]

also, i can just ask the artists regarding this. i presume this would include theo too?

[sharp spade]

yeah

[manic aurora]

you can use my theo portraits if you want 🙏 I'll get them for you tmr

[sharp spade]

appreciate it! is there a GB name I should credit you under?

[manic aurora]

i dont have game banana but like any permutation of adrien/catboyronaldreagan works 💀

actually just about to enter land of nod here they are

tho just ping if anything is needed 💪

oh wait

are blinks used

[jade tide]

amazing file name

[jade tide]

yes

[manic aurora]

it's been so long since I've played portable

scrap that I'll put it properly together with blinks tmr

lmao

[manic aurora]

based off what i could see from the vesk drive here is reload theo

you'll have to crop the blinks to your liking to make it work in game tho :[

[sharp spade]

shouldnt be a problem actually. thanks :)

oof lol

big mod

it's almost done. there's a few more things to do then it should be good for release but i do think i can get it out tomorrow

[jade tide]

once again great file name (thank you btw! )

[jade tide]

almost half the size of the actual game

[manic aurora]

all good best of luck 🙏

[sharp spade]

well no, the game is bigger than that lol

the bustup folder in P3P is 8gb and I'm guessing this will get close in size after the mod is done

[sharp spade]

@jolly path got one more thing to ask from you (hopefully)
there's like 50 of these stupid BST bins. I have them (but not their contents) extracted into individual folders

I would really love for a script to just go and copy all the appropriate bustup folders from a fixed location into the appropriate folders (can also be in a fixed location). how hard would that be :')

ive found that manually copying is really tedious...

i was trying to write a script myself but it really did not want to get the right contents 💀

[jolly path]

I think one way you could do it (which would require you to have all the bst bins extracted somewhere which will take up some space but it'll be useful for automating) would be to do something like:

REM loop through all folders in %1, which should be your folder of bustups
for /d %%i in ("%~1\*.bin") do (
  REM Loop through all folders in the directory where all unpacked bst bins are located
  for /d %%b in ("{directory of unpacked bst bins}\*.bin") do (
    REM Check if loose bin folder in %1 exists in current bst bin folder, and copy to %1\{current bst bin name}\ if so, force overwriting any existing files
    if exist "%%~b\%%~nxi" xcopy "%%~i" "%~1\%%~nxb\%%~nxi" /i /y
  )
)

Which if i've written this correctly should basically: loop through your folder of bustup folders, checks if that bustup folder exists as a .bin file in any of the unpacked bst bins, then copies it to a corresponding bst bin in your bustup folder automatically. Again you'll need to have all the bst bins unpacked somewhere (which it looks like you already do but just being clear about that) so it can actually look through the contents of them as i don't think there's ANY other way to automate this

[sharp spade]

yeah, I do indeed have all of them extracted. let's try this....

thank you 😭 i thought i was a bit more of a batch expert but no, batch still hates me

i will let this sum up my thoughts

so wait im a little confused at this

is {directory of unpacked bst bins} supposed to be hardcoded?

tbh I was hoping I would not have to emulate the file structure for the bst bins too, but rather instead pulling from my bustup folder where all the bustup folders are loose

(hence my comment on fixed location)

[jolly path]

I mean you kinda have to for them to work? Like they contain the bins so if you want to copy your loose folders to them you have to copy to folders named after them?

Im not sure im following what you're trying to do now haha

[sharp spade]

I think my thought was:

• I have the bst bins extracted, but not the bins inside of them. see first picture i sent above for what that looks like
• I have the bustup folder where everything is stored loose (second pic i sent)
• based on the bustup folder sorting script, it seems possible to take those internal bin names and copy them to a new output folder
• perhaps it would be also possible to read from the bustup folder and copy the correct folders to the output folder?

(does that make sense)

like I think I have a rough idea of how to do it I'm just having trouble with the variables

something something,

for %%i in (bst folder\*.bin) do (
  if not exist "(output folder)\(internal bin folder)" mkdir "(output folder)\(internal bin folder)"
  ECHO f | xcopy /y "(hardcoded location of loose bustups)" "(corresponding internal bin folder)"
)

idk if this is actually possible though so shoot me down if it isnt lol

[jolly path]

so you basically want to look through the contents of an extracted bst bin and create the corresponding folders in your loose bustup folder then?

so youd have {bustup folder} and create {bustup folder}\bst***.bin\b*_*_*.bin?

[sharp spade]

I suppose that would work too. the main thing is really just, also copying the TMXs from {bustup folder} to {bustup folder}\bst***.bin\b*_*_*.bin

[jolly path]

... that's what the script i sent you would be doing 💀

it would create the right directories and copy the files to there

[sharp spade]

oh would it 😭

i may be stupid

[jolly path]

Yes 😭

[sharp spade]

so for {directory of unpacked bst bins} - is that my bustup folder in this case?

anyways let me repost this image...

[jolly path]

That would be where your unpacked bst's are

Like basically what the script does is look through your loose bustup folder, and for example it would check if b2_1_3.bin exists in your unpacked bsts folder for a bst bin (actually a folder) that would contain it, so for example it would check if bst000.bin has a b2_1_3.bin file in it. If it does, then it would copy your b2_1_3.bin folder from the loose bustup folder and copy it to {loose bustup folder}\bst000.bin\b2_1_3.bin, which with the xcopy command i sent would result in the necessary folders being created and all the files being copied as you'd expect

So: {loose bustup folder}\b2_1_3.bin would be copied to {loose bustup folder}\bst000.bin\b2_1_3.bin if b2_1_3.bin exists in {unpacked bsts folder}\bst000.bin\*

[sharp spade]

ok, so I am feeding my loose bustup folder into this script?

I think that is what was messing with me tbh lol

the logic seems reversed from what i was expecting

(nbd if so)

[jolly path]

Yes, the unpacked bst location would be hardcoded and your loose folder would be what you drag onto the .bat file in normal windows

[sharp spade]

gotchaaaa

yeah I think I was expecting, open the unpacked BST location and the bustup location is hardcoded

(reversed)

again: no big deal

just funny

[jolly path]

Actually yeah you probably could do that and it wouldn't be hard to just reverse the logic of the script for that lol 😅

[sharp spade]

too much trouble 😭

i basically asked you to write this for me rather than ask for help writing it bc my head hurts from batch script hell lol

(again, tyvm)

[jolly path]

fkjgkljfdkljkl No problem lol, i do feel ya 😭

It's an uphill battle getting used to all the quirks of batch scripting really haha

[sharp spade]

no kidding

makes me hate life

😭

i apparently found out a script to at least generate the folders for the bsts

so there's that

yay i no longer hate life

that's a lie batch script fucking sucks still

@jade tide here's the new size of the bustup folder :p

not too far off from stock P3P's bustup folder size...

[jade tide]

I hope you have enough storage bc photoshop kept crashing on me every time I had less than 6gb on my drive 💀

[sharp spade]

i definitely do haha

probably need to clear my drive soon though...

[jade tide]

its fineee

[sharp spade]

wait wtf it's only 700MB after compressing???

damnnnn

ok so I can upload through GB LMAO

definitely using delta updates for this one though

[jolly path]

I guess that makes sense actually since MOST of the textures are gonna be blank transparent space due to the shorter height and positioning which means the same bytes repeating over and over (probably all 0x00) which naturally compresses really well haha

[sharp spade]

I'm glad thats the case like genuinely I was so worried

i needed a placeholder file lol

[jolly path]

Oh yeah I can't blame you haha, if it wasn't for that stroke of luck basically it would be basically unploadable through GB

That said considering how large it's actually going to be when unpacked its still kinda horrific in a way jdsgjhljksdg, maybe worth making a note of roughly how much space would be needed to actually use the mod on the page or something 😅

[sharp spade]

yeah LMAO

good call

basically a zip bomb if you think about it /j

[jade tide]

sees but make it inaba edition

[jolly path]

the prophecy... comes

[jolly path]

Persona 4 Portable mod PoC revival no way /j

[sharp spade]

eyo p4p???

p4p and p4rg this is a great year for p4 fans

does this look like something 🤔

maybe i should use the actual drop shadow tool bc the empty space in the logos is weird

[jolly path]

I think it does yea, looks pretty nice :3

[sharp spade]

i feel like i like the proper empty space in the middle of the logos more

[jade tide]

yeah i like those shadows better

[sharp spade]

cool! time to upload

how the fuck

i wont even ask how this works

i know compression is a thing but this is pretty crazy lol

[jolly path]

Might be bc r-ii uses the like ultra compression settings (plus 7z files tend to compress really well in general compared to a basic zip/rar) but still that's WILD

very lucky for this mod though so

[sharp spade]

it's wild lol

[jade tide]

People are gonna kill you they download a barely there file and then boom 8 gb 😭

[jade tide]

I’m sure that even if you put in the in the desc some people won’t read it

[sharp spade]

skill issue

oh nah i fucked up pharos' blinking sprites

good thing i checked beforehand

oh no pharos has different rules for his bustups 😭

pharos you piece of s

sigh

time to go through and make sure not all the characters are fucked like he is

yet another delay...

[jade tide]

huh??

At least he only has 3,,,

[sharp spade]

not your fault

his blinking is offset by a different amount than the other charas

272 instead of 144

[jade tide]

but like

why

to stare at you bet

[sharp spade]

persona bgm modders can't have shit that's why

[sharp spade]

sigh
it's over

this sucks

I guess there's a lot of scripting to do again

mannnn

[jade tide]

maaaan

[sharp spade]

i thought it would be consistent 😔

[jade tide]

why would it be different though?

so that,, everyone doesnt blink at the same time or smth?

[jolly path]

the timing would be the same, the issue is with the positioning of the textures

[sharp spade]

oh hang on i fucked up my script

LMAO

hang on

[jolly path]

[sharp spade]

i left an offset that shouldnt have been in there

ok guys i think we are back

[jolly path]

LMFAOOOOOO well that would do it

[jade tide]

the batch script hell continues?

[sharp spade]

that it does 😔

for example

looks like short characters get fucked up lol

[jade tide]

thats what they look like in game wdym

[jade tide]

did you see koromarus blinking texture? bc,,,

honestly he'd probably be better with all blank textures

[sharp spade]

also, mitsuru's blink texture is fucked in stock p3p

notice the cut off eyebrow

[sharp spade]

wdym?

[jade tide]

bro 😭

[jade tide]

i'll show you in a sec

[sharp spade]

so I need to fix

• Ken
• Pharos
• Koromaru
• Igor
• Bunkichi
• Mitsuko
• Maiko

not too bad

[jade tide]

he only has one blinking texture in reload and it has noticeable lines

[sharp spade]

oof

not great

[jade tide]

would it be too noticeable if koromaru doesnt blink

[sharp spade]

these are scriptable, cool

[sharp spade]

it should be fixable

[jolly path]

i mean this isn't too hard of a fix really lol, just erase the very edges where the line appears and it should look normal in game then (since then it basically just blends fine with the normal texture)

[sharp spade]

correct

pretty easy fix actually

[jolly path]

its not like the blink changes any of the art that far out so no worries about just getting rid of those parts for the blink texture

[jade tide]

I thought about just erasing them but I was too scared of accidentally messing up the blinking sprite 😭

[sharp spade]

lmaooo im guessing you wouldve been fine

[jolly path]

the easy way to notice is to just layer them over one another in an image editor on seperate layers and just see if it looks any different at all when you erase (besides the obvious of removing the weird lines lol)

that way you can make sure you erase only what needs to be erased without messing anything up

its hard to describe in text alone but if you were to do it im sure you would get what i mean haha

~~Not like it matters at this point anyways i imagine but still ~~

[jade tide]

no i know trust me i deleted tons of things considering i tried to make bustups 3 times lol

for many of them i ended up erasing parts of their ears on the mouth textures so that they wouldnt look weird

[sharp spade]

it wasnt supposed to be that complicated 😭

gaming

look at mitsuru's big ass head blocking the date smh

[jade tide]

lmaoooo

[sharp spade]

ok, mod is up now https://gamebanana.com/mods/556594

@wide ginkgo sorry this took longer than expected. ran into some final issues bc i can't have shit 😔 enjoy

it might need a bit of time for the 1-click install button to show up, just give it a bit

or install it manually, your choice

[wide ginkgo]

Don't apologize, I'm sure you guys nailed it

[sharp spade]

oh we sure did 😎 hopefully this is mostly bug free...

[jade tide]

this a me problem isnt it 😭

[sharp spade]

it takes a while to load that many assets, check the log to see if it's still loading

with that being said I'm putting out another update soon as per mudkip's request

[wide ginkgo]

that happens to me all the time lol just takes a couple tries until it fully loads

[sharp spade]

(if it is still loading files just let it sit there)

[wide ginkgo]

from the brief time I played there was an instance of Mitsuru speaking japanese and her portrait when approaching the access point beong very low.

[sharp spade]

first one is probably another mod
second one, I need a pic

[wide ginkgo]

I'll see if i can catch it again

[jade tide]

I swear theres a mod I know that causes the japanese bug
but I don't know which one

[jade tide]

hey so

remember how I said I hope you have the storage for it

[sharp spade]

💀

maybe next update will help

[jade tide]

yeah that'd be a problem

[sharp spade]

Jesus

we need to get you a new drive lol

how did that even happen

[jade tide]

that one was at 30 gb tf

[wide ginkgo]

oh actually Mitsuru speaking Japanese is from me putting on party members I havent actually got yet. Forgot about that

[sharp spade]

I HATE BATCH SCRIPT

[sharp spade]

schmuck i am once again asking for your help but this time I'm unsure what the issue is

echo off
title P3P Repack bins
setlocal enabledelayedexpansion

for %%i in ("%~1\*") do (
    <PAKPack path> pack "%%~i" v2 "...\P3R Bustups\BIN\%%~nxi"
)

something like this seems basic enough in theory, but while i can individually run the command i cannot batch it at all

[jolly path]

You're packing the folders into bin files right? It looks like you forgot the /d in your loop then (rn I think it's trying to loop through files in the folder, that flag tells it to look at folders)

Also in this case I don't think you need the setlocal line since that would mainly be useful for doing substrings which you're not doing here but it shouldn't affect things too much tbf so I guess you could leave it lol

[sharp spade]

that was me forgetting to remove it

[jolly path]

Ah fair fair lol

[sharp spade]

yeah i was messing with mudkip's scripts but they require too much manual effort still lmao

those stupid BSTs make life so much harder

like

if it wasnt for those, it wouldnt be an issue at all

[sharp spade]

ok i should have a new update that should cut down on file size. but anyone who's already downloaded the mod will have to delete their p3p cache

unfortunately, no delta update bc i reformatted pretty much all the large files lol

[strong bone]

Is the mod so big just because of the duplicate files? 8gb or whatever you said it was is enormous even if compression cuts it down a lot when it's zipped.
Would it be worth trying to load the loose files in place of the ones in bins?

[sharp spade]

mudkip told me i should leave them in the bins rather than use merging to avoid the cache increasing the size of the mod folder
other than that, I'm not sure what can be done to decrease the size of the mod given the majority of the size of it comes from the sheer number of portraits

his portraits mod is 6.6gb for example

the p3p bustup folder is like 8gb as well

[strong bone]

I mean make a code mod so the ones in Paks aren't used at all

If they are exact duplicates there's probably no reason you couldn't

[sharp spade]

they are

would save about 5gb that way too

[strong bone]

Not using Pak merging does make sense though fwiw. If anyone was replacing the files in those Paks they'd presumably replace all anyway, no benefit in trying to merge them

Cool, well I'll put it on my list of things to do eventually 🙃

[sharp spade]

yeah, my workflow was just set up for pak merging. I wasn't able to fully automate the process of packing everything unfortunately

[strong bone]

I feel like it's probably easy to do

[sharp spade]

ahahaha see I never even thought to ask you about that (if you scroll up I'm just complaining about the BSTs as is) but it also seemed like something that it wasn't worth asking you about

[strong bone]

You could always just not use batch btw. Python is way more powerful and easier to write imo

[sharp spade]

the real answer is that I was really stubborn

lol

batch ran pretty fast anyways

if I had gone into this with python in mind, maybe it would've been better, but now that my scripting is essentially done it's like... well it's pointless to move over now

[strong bone]

True

[sharp spade]

I also have a few batch scripts for P4 Fog Restoration but those are pretty simple scripts anyways

I don't anticipate it getting any more complicated with the existing mods I have in mind.... with any new mods if scripting becomes relevant I'll probably switch over to Python though

[strong bone]

I was going to have a bit of a look at this now. Where are the bst bin files actually used? I deleted them and so far I don't see any bustups that aren't the modded ones

[sharp spade]

sorry for the late reply I've been traveling!

I thought I remembered them being used in some events

like the first event where Yukari attempts to shoot herself in front of you

[strong bone]

Alright, I'll try that one out. I tried two of the social link events and they were fine so it's probably only specific events (maybe story related ones?) that use them

[sharp spade]

yeah maybe

it's just weird lol

[strong bone]

I started a new playthrough and those initial events where you first go to the dorm use the bst bins too

[sharp spade]

yeah it's just weird lol, like I think I was talking about this earlier but I'm wondering if there was an actual good reason to have those BSTs

considering not all events even use them, I'm like uhhhh

[strong bone]

My guess would be that it's so they don't have to wait for the bustups to load during the event. The entire bst bin is loaded before the event starts (while you're in the loading screen) so access to them can be instant

Maybe that was a real problem with events that have a lot of bustups back on the psp

With modern hardware I doubt that it would ever matter though

[sharp spade]

oh definitely not

I was kinda wondering why they bothered anyways given file size was clearly an issue

[strong bone]

Or maybe it's something dumber. Presumably the main story events would've been developed first so perhaps at that time they were loading all the bustups at once like that and they just didn't change it back for whatever reason. (I don't think that's particularly likely but it's another possibility I can think of)

[sharp spade]

and as you noted they aren't used for all events anyways

if you're tackling this do you also want to look at if I did something wrong with my compatibility code lol

(this is not a high priority at all in general but figured I may as well ask)

[strong bone]

Yeah I guess I could have a look at that if I get this working

Is it up on github?

[sharp spade]

yes but it's private let me fix that, or I can give you access, would you prefer one?

[strong bone]

I think it just being public is better

[sharp spade]

hang on then

hm

it seems like i never uploaded my changes to github lol

so i can share the project but it's just the default template anyways

oops!

(this is relevant bc I won't be back on my main computer for a while)

[strong bone]

Ah ok

[sharp spade]

https://github.com/BrawlerAce/p3ppc.reloadbustups here it is though

I just used basic compatibility code anyways

so the section checking mods prior to this one was nbd, it was checking mods loaded after that I could not figure out since it used CriV2 rather than File Emulation Framework, and I was getting crashes trying to do that

[strong bone]

Alright, well I can probably recreate whatever you did have easily enough

[sharp spade]

probably
my bad

[strong bone]

This was decently easy to work out thankfully. It does seem there's a hardcoded list of events that it'll try to load the bst bin files for. I haven't worked out the exact details of it yet (there's not really any need to) but I might might try to just for fun

I'll release this as its own mod then you can just add a dependency on it since it'll be useful for other bustup mods too

[strong bone]

I've put out the mod. I called it De-Duplicator to allow for the potential to remove more duplicatee files in the future if there are any other annoying ones. As the readme says you just add it as a dependency and you're good to go
https://github.com/AnimatedSwine37/p3ppc.deDuplicator

@slender wedge you should also update your clean bustups mod with this. Add it as a dependency then you can remove all the bst bin files in it

[slender wedge]

[sharp spade]

that was fast

[sharp spade]

there goes like. 5gb of the mod

W

well uhhhh i hope this works bc i cant rly test lol

actually i guess i could

[strong bone]

I'm pretty sure it does 😄

[sharp spade]

I should like actually test it...

i almost didnt test this mod and almost missed multiple charas being fucked up lol so

[strong bone]

Fair, testing is always a good idea

[sharp spade]

yeah to be clear i do trust that your work... works

lol

but it's a quick test...

(it works)

[strong bone]

no it's all good, I understand

[sharp spade]

wooo

[strong bone]

nice

[sharp spade]

ty lol, appreciate the patch

[strong bone]

all good

[sharp spade]

i think at this point i can remove the file size notice...

[wide ginkgo]

So just fyi while playing Natsumi and Kenji's portraits so far have issues with blinking

[sharp spade]

alright. unfortunately (idk if I said this here) I am traveling and forgot my external drive with my persona modding files so I won't be able to look into it for a while

I'll be able to fix it again in December after I get back from my thanksgiving travels

[sharp spade]

alright, I'm home again. I'll try to fix these in the next few days I'm just tired rn because I've been driving so much 😭

[sharp spade]

oops

[tough walrus]

She got ran over by something

[jade tide]

oof

[sharp spade]

@wide ginkgo which kenji ones are messed up? on my end they seem fine

[wide ginkgo]

Kenji when he pops up in Rio's social link

[sharp spade]

ty

that's school uniform right?

[wide ginkgo]

Yes, I believe so

So far those were the only two and I already have Shinjiro in my party and met all the other social links pretty much

[sharp spade]

ok cool

weird bc kenji seems fine to me 😔

[wide ginkgo]

Hm. Natsumi was weird for you too though?

[sharp spade]

yeah

ive fixed her

[sharp spade]

ok i found the issue with kenji

it's much more minor lol

but will fix

fix is live

[sharp spade]

this wont be ready today but im also working on a config menu bc one of my friends asked for it lol

[jade tide]

reloadhiko cant hurt you 😭

deserved better 😔

sorry if its gotten annoying
im (mostly) kidding
guess you really made a mistake by showing me that sprite

[sharp spade]

no don't worry I have it written down in my notes 😭

that one just requires more effort

everything is also currently a boolean right now too

I'll probably just add a big toggle for that one at the top when I get to it lmao

all this work I'm doing right now is purely because my friend hates reload akihiko lmao

[jade tide]

i barely know anything programming but I have a personal problem with booleans
i refuse to use them lmao

[jade tide]

i would’ve thought the opposite

[jade tide]

https://tenor.com/view/akihiko-akihiko-sanada-persona-3-persona-3-reload-jumpscare-gif-15069188415590725678

[sharp spade]

well let's put it this way lol

I have to create some new assets bc it's not just his bustup, but also his navi prompt and his battle portraits that need replacing

then I have to do some logic to make sure the correct files are loaded depending on what config options are selected

the config stuff rn is just reorganizing existing files

it's not hard to do the Koromaru stuff it's just harder than organizing files lol

[sharp spade]

I've kept putting this off but I think I'll try to finish up the config options tonight. I just need to move bustups around at this point. cursed Koromaru will probably come in a later update bc I don't think I can get that done tonight

[jade tide]

lmao is that what youre calling him

[sharp spade]

what else do I call him lol

[sharp spade]

i overestimated how much time it would take

[jade tide]

my beautiful son

[sharp spade]

can i steal that

[jade tide]

thank you for your service

[jade tide]

sure

[sharp spade]

ty

now do i put it on the mod page or leave it as a surprise....

[jade tide]

would people be curious enough to see what alternate koromaru even is

if they are theyd just get jumpscared lol

jumpscared by my beautiful son i raised him myself

[sharp spade]

i'll put it in then lol

very last image

[jade tide]

hes so expressive ❤️

[sharp spade]

he's so real for that

[jade tide]

im having a great time ty so much