Finding a missing part of the final boss's persona

[chilly cradle]

I was talking to @zenith spoke about ||Azathoth's tentacles|| and noticed something interesting when looking at pics of them for a friend to use as reference. They have these hands attached. I asked them (ajda) about it, and they speculated it's possible they're in an EPL. I mean, I found ||Azathoth's eyes|| in the item files for some reason, tho i can't remember if the main model has the eyes already in the mesh. If the EPL thing is right, it's possible 3 out of those 5 tentacles are the ones used to protect ||Maruki|| while the other two are used for attacks
But this is speculation, I could be way off the mark. Unfortunately ajda's comp died so they can't help investigate. Unless there's some way to find out what models are in hardcoded battles like these. Does anybody have any clues where these hands could be? They aren't a part of the main ||tentacle|| model. If it is an EPL I'll unfortunately won't be able to extract it

C5979_000_00, C5980_000_00, and C5989_000_00 all have glowing tips

meanwhile C5981_000_00 and C5990_000_00 do not

[rotund lava]

do they occur in an event scene or only in a boss battle?

[rotund lava]

is this it?

ENEMY\EM0551 and ENEMY\EM0552 seem to be the hands only

ENEMY\EM0497 is body and hands

CHARACTER\5984 is just the tubing

And CHARACTER\5985_000 and CHARACTER\5985_001 are the body in various forms:

[rotund lava]

The models used in the actual battle are:
ENEMY\BEM0497_OP_L.GMD (the hand)
ENEMY\BEM0497_OP_R.GMD (the hand)
ENEMY\BEM0504_OP_BACK.GMD (the hand)
ENEMY\EM0553.GMD (another hand)
ENEMY\EM0552.GMD (another hand)
ENEMY\EM0551.GMD (another hand)
ENEMRY\EM0497.GMD(Body and hands and tubing)

[chilly cradle]

I have this one
But not all these others

Bless you 🥺

Now I just need to learn how to properly text it...this thing has a mask, i'm sure, but i still don't know how to mask

[rotund lava]

np, i just triggrerd both the event and the battle and looked what models were loaded

also on the amicitia wiki page for characters its, also got some of them on there as well

[chilly cradle]

In the nodes, the tentacles oddlt weren't using all the textures

[chilly cradle]

Yeah, the ones listed there are what I ripped

If you haven't already, i'll take these names and update the enemy page

[chilly cradle]

Fun fact: while I was ID'g the in-game items, Adam Kadmon's "cockpit" (where Maruki is nestled) was among the items
Alongside with Azathoth's eyes
Weird

I learned there's stuff in items that go in fields but yeah

[chilly cradle]

@rotund lava do you know if the tentacles i showed are just in-field ones? Because they have no hands. Would it be safe to assume these hands only spring up in battle? (in the context of the game)

[rotund lava]

i think they're listed on the page with an event tick

so presume so

they didn't get loaded into the maruki azathoth boss fight

but they also might only get loaded into if they're used in an attack

what's the exact character id for them?

i'll quickly check across the events to see if that major and minor id is used anywhere

5979 appears to be used in E511_393, E511_410, E900_383, and E900_596

5989 appears to be used in E900_601, and E900_604

5980 is the same as 5979

(I dont thinkk the 900 events actually exist)

but E511_393 is:
Battle against berserked Cendrillon, prologue

E511_410 is: Battle against berserked Cendrillon, the aftermath part 1

[chilly cradle]

Mmm, so the hands are more of a battle thing (within the context of the game)
outside of the actual plot itself, it could be assumed it makes hands to pick up stuff too lol

[rotund lava]

Yeah the hands appear as part of the scene just before up to the final battle starts. I can get the events for them too in a bit if you want them?

[chilly cradle]

Naw, that's okay
I was just confused at the lack of hands from the ones I ripped
These are used for renders
If anything, I would want help applying the textures in the p5 shader lol When I try, the surface still looks flat and doesn't have what I assume is a mask + the linework parts don't glow

I may be able to figure that out tho if I open up the Nurse's Office
somebody helped me do some mask work there so I can inspect the nodes as possible reference

[chilly cradle]

@rotund lava if you don't mind, can you help me with one more thing?
You know Eden, where all those NPCs are frolicking? I know that Eden is split up into some pieces with the main field there but also some other "items" (like how the gymnasium has that fan shaped light that's a separate model but part of the field). There's Amicitia, but the problem is that I don't know which exact models I'm looking for that are loaded into the field

this one
Officially it's called Psientific Model Eden

[rotund lava]

is that 162_005 and 162_010?

I think162_005

M062_003.GMD
M062_005.GMD
M062_052.GMD
M062_053.GMD
M062_054.GMD
M062_055.GMD
M062_132.GMD
M062_133.GMD
M062_134.GMD
M151_015.GMD
M162_016.GMD
M262_029.GMD
M600_001.GMD - this is in EN.CPK
M600_002.GMD
M600_003.GMD
M600_007.GMD
M600_008.GMD
M600_010.GMD

these are the in the object folder

F062_050_0.GFS
F062_051_0.GFS
F062_052_0.GFS
F062_053_0.GFS
F062_054_0.GFS
F062_055_0.GFS
F062_056_0.GFS
F262_007_0.GFS

Im away for the next few days so hopefully that gives you what you were looking for

[chilly cradle]

Thank you so much 🙏 and yes, I was talking about this
There's a MMD rip of here (Eden) on DA but it's dogshit when opened in blender
400 materials....

[chilly cradle]

There's an issue that between the PS4 ver and PC version that the identification number of Maruki's palace is different. So Amicitia needs some updating at some point