reminds me of the armband lines on the promo art
#Remade P3 Opening for P3 Reload
river sable
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OKAY
this is a total accident because I was messing with camera angles and forgot I had it tracking my changes into the animation
BUT
THIS KINDA GOES HARD???
if i make it slower and smoother i think it could actually work
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reminds me of the armband lines on the promo art
also i forgot about those steam bgs they were cool
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then ill just do an impact frame and then the money shot 
then i can clean up the lineart and go by frame by frame
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Persona 3 beautiful moments
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transition idea, stealing from reload but using fes as the baseline
concept that ill try to get
i got the broken glass that ill animate too
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im going to also just mess with the shader until i find something that looks good
cause i like the dark shader but it also loses that 2d look in a way
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this feels better tbh
especially this part lol
ill reuse the dark colors during the glass break effect for the actual summon shader and bg
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HOLY SHIT
woeful valve
Can you make it when Makoto dissolves he has that smile?
idle tinsel
I will
opaque shadow
woah, damn, this is great. didn't know someone was working on it.
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fuck trying to do a whole 'transition for the blue bg but honestly its probably just better without one and its better to just animate the things around it like blood and glass shards
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like this just feels better
ill just go ahead and add the 2d vfx and then decide later on if i want to animate it again (i probably wont)
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HOLY SHIT WAIT I FOUND OUT HOW TO DO THE BG
like the og
and i can animate it too.. oh boy
idle tinsel
1st one ya
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yeah i like the 1st cause of the reference, but i guess the 2nd also sort of works more for the 'relaod' style
ill stick to the first then as i do the scenes around this shot Itll be easier to figure out and decide
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ill keep messing with the camera angle cause im not too sure about this just idk
a closer angle is better just cant really think of a good one without including face details
i like including the bench at least cause its at least somewhat of a motif to chidori
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Some more possible ideas
pulsar kindle
I like this one the most it reminds me of the p3 movie
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omg thats a good point
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glad night
p3mis
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decided to try drawing a sketch of an idea out because I couldnt really just do a quick mockup easily but
ill add more detail to this sketch so i can get a better idea of what im thinking but yeah
im also just going back to storyboard previous scenes to see if any new ideas come
I feel like so far a lot of the scenes are ok but I want to like just see if they can be better
(mainly imo yukaris and mitsurus will have to be changed the most, the rest feel good to me)
river sable
HOLYYY THIS LOOKS SO GOOD
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Im going to take my idea of the sketch and combine it with the current one im using aka the broken glass around the focus
idle tinsel
Looks like a pow cut away from old cartoons.
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trying to mess with the camera some more
I do need space so the text doesnt get overlapped by junpei lol
idle tinsel
Maybe just have the text move like the og
north vessel
awesome work jinx
smoky hawk
I saw this linked in the femc server
Fantastic shit. Well done
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:D ty
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Also yeah a mini hiatus just college being a bitch right now, dw I aint ever abandoning this project
working and taking classes lowkey sucks in terms of free time 
lucid oar
yeah unfortunately having little free time tends to do that :') it's good to see you around though
I saw some of your sparking zero mods though, they were pretty rad :)
take your time honestly like, if you're busy you're busy
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I saw some of your sparking zero mods though, they were pretty rad :)
take your ...
Yeah it be like that. Also thanks! I want to work on some more of those even maybe porting makoto or aigis over
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I saw some of your sparking zero mods though, they were pretty rad :)
take your ...
Real asf
wraith narwhal
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figured out a concept for this shot since its next
moving light source sorta like this shot from pq2, have it flash a couple times with just makoto to then just one flash with thanatos then back to makoto
I think thisll just be the best way to recreate this scene, keep makoto static on the train window with the lights passing by leaving the effect
obv itll have to be a mostly black bg but thats fine imo
also i can use the quickly moving light poles to my advantage to seamlessly transition between makoto and thanatos
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ill change the framing n everything just thought I'd document this before I forget this idea lol
another concept for another shot
might just zoom it in but I like the idea of having him look up instead of statically facing forward.
lucid oar
me when I remember my death
that does seem like an interesting idea though I'm looking forward to seeing how it turns out
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working on the shading for this scene
thinking if i should make it more 2d with the headphones over the hair or more reaslitic with it blended under the hair
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Think 2nd is more natural yeah
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same thought
well actually no ill mess with the hair to get it more on model
just clump the hair in the back so its hidden or something idk
well wait nvm thats the opposite side LOl
uhhh ig theres just not many shots with him with his headphones on and on this side for a reason idk
idle tinsel
Maybe the pause menu?
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meh yeah i feel justified not moving the hair much then
ill clean things up anyways this is all just to find the right composition lol
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Epic
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ok so i went ahead and did a mock up of the og version just out of curiosity and i think it blows my idea out of the water LMFAO
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I might still try out my idea but I reaaaaly like this so kdk lmfao
plush sail
This project is amazing keep up the good work but I do have some suggestions. In the Memento Mori section where it transitions to Yukari do you think you could make that bit smoother like add a line transition like how you did when the camera moved up close to Yukari or something. Also could you move Fuuka to the left in her section it seems very cluttered on the right side. (sorry to be so picky, its your project and you can do what you want with it). If these aren't easy fixes then don't worry about these are just personal nitpicks of mine.
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This project is amazing keep up the good work but I do have some suggestions. In...
thank you for the suggestions!
and yeah im going to go back and remake some of the older parts like yukari or fuuka. Mid project ive come to a better understanding of what I want to accomplish and those no longer 100% fit it. Ill keep aspects of them but also change them to be more consistent
hasty peak
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All blender
zenith thunder
thats so sick
zenith thunder
this is actually motivating me to learn blender after like.. 3 years
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GOOD LORD THIS ALONE GAVE ME SO MUCH MOTIVATION BUT ALSO I HAVE SUCH LIMITED TIME AT THE MOMENT WHICH IS WHY I CANT WORK MORE ON THIS PROJECT
THERES SO MANY COOL IDEAS THAT I CAN IMPLEMENT AND ALSO JUST IDEAS IVE BEEN HAVING THAT THEY EXECTUED ITS SO SICK
glad night
https://fxtwitter.com/ScrambledFaz/status/1915621484795474241
THIS IS SO FUCKING COOL
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My desire to work on this project again have shot through the roof oml
fickle dirge
I'm definitely using this one once it's released, it's awesome
cyan cape
HOLYYYY SHITTTT I just discovered this project and this is SO FUCKING COOL SO FAR???
zenith thunder
ive been wanting to do smth like this but i keep forgetting how im meant to do alot of stuff aaa
like... i have maybe intermediate knowledge of blender
but idk what else id need to achieve some of the effects of bmd
like theres alot here... the scrolling text that masks thanatos, the particles, makoto disintegrating
i just dont understand how id do that
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like theres alot here... the scrolling text that masks thanatos, the particles, ...
A lot of stuff like that will have to be dome through stuff like after effects or premiere pro
zenith thunder
i downloaded aftereffects earlier i needa see tutorials tho also
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You might be able to find the original effect that Point Pictures used for Burn My Dread if you look hard enough
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like theres alot here... the scrolling text that masks thanatos, the particles, ...
That reminds me, Akirajkr found the text used for that bit a few years ago
glad night
is that like lorem ipsum in french or something lol
fickle dirge
probably better (I Think?)
I think you could blur the tiles in the back if that's possible?
turbid lava
OOOOOOOOO THIS LOOKS SOOOO GOOD AND I LIKE HOW YOU USED THAT 1 SHOT FROM THE P3R X P5X COLLAB TRAILER
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yeah true, trying to figure that out rn lol
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I think you could blur the tiles in the back if that's possible?
yeah your right does look better
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OOOOOOOOO THIS LOOKS SOOOO GOOD AND I LIKE HOW YOU USED THAT 1 SHOT FROM THE P3R...
ALSO YES I HAD TO ๐ญ
THAT TRAILER ALONE GAVE ME SO MANY NEW IDEAS
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Maybe the pillars too, though I don't know what are you planning to do with that scene
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the background will be static and the focus will be on the 'shape' like the og, so yeah atm the pillars are kinda just flat meshes ill go back and probs give them detail now
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lookin much better
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Awesome
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so im struggling with the circle effect on this shot just cause tracking it to the specific circle is messing with me haha
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im going to frame by frame fix the linework for the face/hair just atm thisll be it
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overcomplicating things by doing this from scratch w/ a shader but also just want to test my shader knowledge
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also working on the like broken glass part for the multicolored section
Ill use a mix between 2d and 3d for the transition but itll mostly just be 3d
going to do my best to use fmfl and also the collab opening with p5x as inspirations
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test of the timing n everything
as cool as this is, getting the compositions to track onto each glass piece is going to suck haha
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AYO okay
Ill swap the dark blue for orpheus just fo rnow testing things around
er maybe it should just be still...
to reflect the 'death' part aka stillness (?) idk
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wraith narwhal
oh wow
fickle dirge
I'm incredibly hyped for BURN MY DREEAD
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OKAY THATS ACTUALLY KINDA FIRE HOLD ON YOU'RE COOKING HERE ๐ฅ
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while cleaning up the linework for this shot I just realized I can just leave the shards without moving them
this plus each color with makoto would look fire asf, ill test it once i finish it
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HOLY SHIT THIS LOOKS HELLA CLEAN NOW COMPARED TO THE OTHER WIP OF THE SHARDS YOU SENT I LIKE IT
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yeah i just did a rough sketch so I could block out the shards
HOLD UP
hmm, maybe it should all be white? the colors I have to get down
idle tinsel
Depends on how you want it tbh
White makes it look more glossy glass. The dark blue made it look more like broken glass?
red wave
I like the blue one the best
idle tinsel
Initially I liked the blue one but now Im not sure.
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the bg also matters too cause i can just make it all black
but the blue doesnt look half bad either
idle tinsel
Maybe a dark blue like black but its just dark blue
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Maybe a dark blue like black but its just dark blue
Perfect
idle tinsel
Yippe!
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Hm looking at the og theres no inbetween frames between the red and broken glass.
Still good tho. Im surpised I managed to catch the inbetween frames.
Maybe make it the white cracks part fast like a blink and you miss it?
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Nvm it works with the follow through anim u have here.
Maybe instead transition the white color to the dark blue you got?
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like the white going to dark blue?
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Ya
The white to me stands out during the transition.
Not a bad thing just something I noticed.
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fair, let me seee
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Yeah I didnt not the transition here prob cause it was a light blue. Idk
idle tinsel
Its more seamless the transition here yeah
Hm now the shards arent moving as much as previously. Was that intention or is that a fragmented clip.
river sable
honestly I prefer the previous transition
I think it's fine if its not 1:1 with bmd tbh
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Hm now the shards arent moving as much as previously. Was that intention or is t...
been messing with the animation for the shards to find something that pops just right
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Ah okay makes sense then.
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I think it's fine if its not 1:1 with bmd tbh
yeah i havent even being going for 1:1 its more just 'if it looks good then ill put it in'
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Its fine if its not 1:1 I dont expect it to be. Frankly I may just be nitpicking.
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nah you bring valid points, I am the same way when working on each shot haha
idle tinsel
Aint that a mood.
Well if your opting for the old transition. I say light blue is better color then the white.
Light Blue -> Dark Blue to shard move. Yeah that makes sense I think.
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Yessssss I really like this one.
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yeah slowly getting there
dim swift
my only comment is the lineart around the tear duct looking a bit funky
unless its just a part of you adjusting the game model to be closer to your own artstyle or something ๐ค
idle tinsel
He adjusted the model to better fit the fes style I think.
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its a mix of fes and reload, but yeah thats just because I havent gone back to frame by frame clean up the line art
i just used the modifier and then ill go back and clean all that up
dim swift
okay that makes sense
im guessing youre not really looking for advice on the model itself then it wasnt my intention to criticize that
dim swift
since youre going for a fes/reload mix in the model, i think its just the eyes that would need slight adjustment. Makoto's eyes are not upturned and have a flat top. Providing anime cutscene examples as thats the look you were aiming for
idle tinsel
Yeah this is the model edit
dim swift
fes specifically has nothing in the lower lashline other than the outer corner, and reload just adds lower lashes (which are significant in makoto's p3r redesign)
idle tinsel
Damn they added lower lashes never noticed that
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I see, okay I actually never noticed that
dim swift
which direction you want to take it is up to you but additionally the lineart inconsistency just skews the impression
i could give more detailed feedback later on if youre looking for that by comparing cutscenes/opening and how they draw makoto
the facial proportions seemingly dont need adjustments
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yeah w/o the fucked lineart this is generally what he looks like (at least in this shot)
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Do have a wip video of all the stuff you made so far Jinx? Im really curious how it looks in a big picture.
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Do have a wip video of all the stuff you made so far Jinx? Im really curious how...
I can re-render one yeah
might take a bit. I do have to go soon to watch a movie so I can probs render it then
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i could give more detailed feedback later on if youre looking for that by compar...
Ive been using blendshapes heavily to adjust his face shot by shot so it's a bit inconsistent but moreso I use them to compensate for camera angles and such
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im not really knowledgeable in those kinds of details i was moreso trying to ask about the model itself
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yeah w/o the fucked lineart this is generally what he looks like (at least in th...
Ngl he reminds me of an emoji ngl
dim swift
i do understand you have to go back and adjust the lineart regardless
idle tinsel
In post right?
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yeah basically my plan is to let grease pencil do the major line art automatically, then in post go through and either redo some parts (faces/ hair) or just clean it up generally
idle tinsel
Sound extensive...
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Im saving that for last since I know itll take a good chunk of time
dim swift
thats fair
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Id rather get the storyboard/everything done first
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might take a bit. I do have to go soon to watch a movie so I can probs render it...
No worries just take your time. This project is hella extensive.
dim swift
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yeah i still have to go back and redo a majority of the early shots because I learned a lot of new stuff because of this project, which makes those feel super dated haha
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i could give more detailed feedback later on if youre looking for that by compar...
i could draw on top/do a mock-up if that's something you're interested in if you were to give a x-axis locked/orthographic locked screenshot of the model or smth
if not i understand that lol i dont wanna cross the line ๐ญ
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Nah your good, I can give me 1 sec
actually wait
my bad that one has a blendshape active
there, the giveaway was the nose bc the origianl had a fucked up nose haha
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Do have a wip video of all the stuff you made so far Jinx? Im really curious how...
was quicker than I thought
idle tinsel
Looks like your little over half way done.
Excluding the fact ur gonna redo earlier stuff.
uncut bloom
Yo this shit lookin' peak tho
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Just randomly remembered about the storyboards for bmd so I've been studying those for a bit
like the opening dark blue circle w/ the street light is meant to be the tunnel for the train
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A proper Reload interpretation of these beginning shots would probably be something like this imo.
(if its not obvious enough those early shots have been irking me for a bit and I want to finalize them now)
plus using the new model for makoto makes things look much better now
this is another option, which does look decent
idle tinsel
I think I perfer the blue
turbid lava
this is another option, which does look decent
hmmmm its hard to choose bc i like both of the ones you made for this shot in the op
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@normal badge This might be useful. It's an interview with Persona 3's Anime Cutscenes Director and Storyboard Artist https://fullfrontal.moe/yukio-yakatsu-paris-japan-expo/
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IT ACTUALLY DOES B/C I GET A BETTER IDEA OF THE STYLE
OMG THIS IS SO CRAZY TO SEE WHOAH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we5Yv9HbuzM&ab_channel=Nykom
the same geometric imagery that bmd and soul phrase uses this is so surreal
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<@720446091304239154> This might be useful. It's an interview with Persona 3's A...
this is such a cool way to deep dive into the aesthetic choices of the original director and all that, THANK YOU SO MUCH!
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No worries!
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or alternatively
if anything it would probably transition from the ver, w/o shading to the one with shading +eyes
although as good as it looks with the eyes Im hesitant mainly just cause of the og
also this shader has some potential
I like how it looks
even if it becomes a bit obvious its 3d with said shader
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I think this is good imo
Much better than how it was before thats for sure
im also going to rerender the bg building just cause i realized how poorly i translated it and the angle of the og
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true
thinking of adding a more drastic change between the two styles with some more depth/detail
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the makoto section def looks better now, ryoji might be easy enough to update although im not too sure
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turbid lava
OKAY YEAH I FW THIS ONE HEAVY
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That transition is smooth
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new ryoji
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much better than the original one i had yeah
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cyan cape
COOKINGGGGGG
mystic saddle
Looks so good whats left
turbid lava
WAIT THIS IS FIREEEE
idle tinsel
I really like this but think the background is a bit blurry. Idr if the og is like that intentionally or not. But still really fire bro. Its probably right to be a smear frame I think its called? Anyway yeah keep it up!!!!
lucid oar
I agree
original for comparison, I think it makes it a lot more clear how it looks at a higher resolution (this is from P3P 2023)
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I agree
doing a quick mockup with the og background
im going to probs made it from scratch idk but def looks better than my previous one haha
lucid oar
ooooooo yeah that's nice
i'm glad we have a sufficiently detailed screenshot to make a mockup like that work lol
also now that i can see the two side by side, no red headphones/tie?
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i will probably add them just have to go back to reanimate if I want to include the headphones right lol
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or maybe this? blends in more but doesnt exactly pop as much
now im slowly just going to chip away at the animation to get it smoother and more akin to the og
already looking better but ill save it for when its done
glad night
i can't wait to finally watch this when it's all done lol
here's also hoping someone makes an 'alternating openings' mod for p3re so it can play this and full moon full life
lucid oar
I actually kinda prefer this first one here bc I think it is meant to stand out. third one also looks good and might clash less depending on what style you're going for, since you're obviously deviating away from the style of the original
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mockup for the blood scene
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its the same but doesnt feel right, going to keep just picking at it until i find an angle or something im satisfied with
(also could partially just be the blood effect cause I'm having a hard time making a smooth shader for it)
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finally drew a quick impact frame to replace the placeholder
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I HAVE AN AMAZING IDEA
woeful valve
Whatโs your amazing idea
mystic saddle
Perfect
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did my best to render it in a way that reflects p3r's cutscenes (if that makes sense)
while also adding impact cause its a flashing image
unsure if i should just copy this frame 1:1 or try something more unique, I know its meant to be the eye of a shadow but like i'm not sure how to expand beyond just that frame
WAIT ITS NOT A SHADOW ITS MEANT TO BE THE BARREL OF A GUN
(as per the previs for bmd)
๐ญ i feel so dumb
glad night
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best idea I could come up with without drastically changing the shot
cyan cape
KORO!!!
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cconcepts for the chorus
id like to keep the pure red but I also like the idea of incorporating some blue
lucid oar
I do prefer it just being red
lucid oar
generally I prefer shots closer to the original. for example, with this shot, I actually don't really care for Koromaru being there
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more tests
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generally I prefer shots closer to the original. for example, with this shot, I ...
thats fair tbh, trying to find ways to include Koro or Ken but also it does change the vibe of that shot
lucid oar
could you include them anywhere as background characters alongside the other ones?
lucid oar
probably the best spot you're going to get them in. you could also try to add additional shots and or try to group them with other party members
this is a good opportunity too
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that too
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welp, time for the aigis model update
Through doing makotos I was able to learn a lot about the style and what exactly to do so hopefully she should be quicker
I'll still try to find a blend of reload with a bit of fes but I will admit she just looks very different between versions so I feel as if I should lean more towards the reload look for consistency
even if fes aigis has a special place in my heart haha
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shader helps alot, main things to do:
- slightly rounder and bigger eyes
- bring eyes slightly closer together
- lower eyes just by a bit (look at eyebrows)
- shorten chin but round it out nicely
- Just like makoto, add detail to eye meshes
cyan cape
As much as I love FES Aigis, I def think leaning more towards the Reload style for this is the best way to go :3
It looks amazing so far!!!
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Progress so far
I like using animations to test the face in 'motion' but so far so good, just have to keep adjusting slowly till things look right
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testing it as just lineart, starting to see more things to fix now
definitely on the right track tho.
in terms of face proportions I think i now got it pretty spot on
took a bit but yeah much better now
good comparisson of base face and new one
turbid lava
HOLY SHIT ALL OF THIS LOOKS RLLY GOOD SO FAR
idle tinsel
Yo that shader is fireeee
dim swift
i do think you made the eyes a little too close together
best reference would be to directly overlay anime cutscene front facing aigis on top of the model w opacity lowered
lucid oar
which is which? I assumed base then new but i'm not familiar enough with aigis's model
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(side by side comparisson between some anime aigieese
yeah looking at it,the eyes could be just a bit more spaced out
odd fjord
Woah really cool :0 I've never played the original so I never saw the actual original OP but my friend who's huge into persona loves the originals
Is that from the movie anime? Or is there an actual series?
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what? the original opening? or the screenshots?
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those are from Reload
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full body shader for her, just like how i did for makoto. (last photo has grease pencil which makes it look SO CLEAN)
odd fjord
lucid oar
that is a very nice shader
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during her main shot, aigis has a ton of like different color schemes, I really want to use this one for one of them
probably to swap with this one
or maybe include this one from fmfl
odd fjord
Red hair for her looks so nice
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odd fjord
The fmfl I know she's blonde but wow it looks nice
river sable
probably to swap with this one
I'd say go with this hair
makes her ribbon stand out more
river sable
fmfl one is nice but I feel the hair is red specifically because they wanted to make her look damaged and didn't want to draw attention to the ribbon
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thats a good point
river sable
oh and also you could make her eyes red if you go with the bmd colors, otherwise it'd blend in too much
river sable
oooo that looks super super nice
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will probably mess with some of the saturation but yeah i love it
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very nice and a good modernization of bmd's colors!
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probably to swap with this one
an aesthetic like this for that shot will work really well
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yeah i think in terms of modeling shes mostly done
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working on animation now
i would just reuse any ol animation but this specific shot with aigis has always been one of my favorites so i want to go all out
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first main keyframe done
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now for the next keyframe
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:)
will keep slowly chipping at it with cloth and hair physics, plus cleaning up the shader for specifically this animation
but overall FUCK YEAH
river sable
FLAMES
mystic saddle
Looks bad ass
idle tinsel
Your so goated at this omg.
heavy stone
oh my GOD this is so cool
odd fjord
Epic
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still have to add the other aigis but thought Id get the general look down for now
thinking of adding some background other than just pure white? maybe like a pattern or silhouettes of buildings? not entirely sure.
lucid oar
if you add a background don't make it too crazy
turbid lava
WOAHHHHHHH THIS LOOKS AMAZING
idle tinsel
if you add a background don't make it too crazy
I agree
tawny sparrow
Man this looks fire!
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dim swift
i genuinely really like the aigis model :)
you learnt a lot from working on this project and it shows
dim swift
i think for this shot going w "choppy" anim (2s) on purpose would be cool af
still up to u ofc
just an idea
unkempt vault
mystic saddle
Looks cool
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i think for this shot going w "choppy" anim (2s) on purpose would be cool af
Oh yeah, I could pull a spiderverse and switch between twos for the key poses and ones for the movement
Also thank you ! ๐ much appreciated
cyan cape
PINKGISSSS
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i think for this shot going w "choppy" anim (2s) on purpose would be cool af
did a mix of 2's and 1's (the 1's are only for the switch in poses)
I really like it though
removing the 1's there makes the motion feel much slower/stiffer imo
dim swift
this is good i agree
im no animator but i like that it carries over the feel of choppiness from bmd
could do the same for makotoโs run anim at the end of bmd
would add some unification so the choppy anims dont weirdly stand out
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yeah i like it, I might incorporate it into scenes with more movement like you mentioned
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trying to figure out a way to incorporate the fade with the close up, tbh I just don't like the fade and want to make a cleaner transition with pink aigis
woeful valve
sage sail
Genuine question, why use her new outfit?
Isn't her original outfit in the intro in the game too?
woeful valve
I think itโs the new one
Since youโre getting close to the scene, when SEES have the Evokers to their head, can you try to make the models change to the old designs to the new ones?
sage sail
I think itโs the new one
Yeah I mean, is it a deliberate choice to use the new one for practicality or
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Yeah it has been, just to reflect that this is "burn my dread" reload specifically
As much as I love the original outfits
idle tinsel
Tbh the current transition seems fine to me. Its just missing aigis standing here with the red tube of light. Which could be why the transition could feel off cuz the entire composition of the scene ismt there yet. Also an idea maybe use MC's MP3 Player for the red tube but with a ton of bloom glow. Like EPA opening.
river sable
always been curious about that, what exactly is that? do the storyboards say?
idle tinsel
Judging by Aigis staring upward at it maybe a ceiling light? I have no idea honestly.
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always been curious about that, what exactly is that? do the storyboards say?
The storyboard says its a falling fluorescent light, like an office light
river sable
interesting
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Buuuut
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Tbh the current transition seems fine to me. Its just missing aigis standing her...
I LOVE THAT IDEA OF USING THE MP3 PLAYER
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What ill do is make an animation of the mp3 player swinging in front of aigis
Thats the vision in my head
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Ill play around with the idea of making it blue instead of red. Just to see
sage sail
It's way better than a floating red led at least
sage sail
Hmmmmmm what would a red thing that's relevant to reload
I guess theurgia cartridges for the evokers but those aren't really red, makes their personas red though
The prototype evoker maybe
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Can always just treat it as reminscient of the red Episode Aigis.
river sable
p5 in my p3.... smh.... /j
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Hmmmmmm what would a red thing that's relevant to reload
Maybe the red flowers? Forgot the name
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just to test a composition with them.
also, I found this very beautiful shot (from one punch man, which supprised me, now i want to check it out), that reminds me a lot of the burn my dread aesthetic. Maybe i can have the background for this shot be similar with faint white flowers?
that could add some nice spice to it
sage sail
Murata try not to make his drawing too cracked challenge (impossible)
idle tinsel
Maybe you add a bg like epa red and blue split. Idk if that would work cuz the scene being white. The flowers flowing and the mp3 could look beautiful. With a touch of bloom. I would also omitt the earphone peice outta the shot. Maybe the lanyard too so its closer to the og light. And the cylinder just slowly spins as the shot progress. Just some ideas.
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the bg colors is a good idea, but yeah for this shot with aigis the bg should be white so theres no major contrast between the shots. Also thats fair for the earphone.
Ill actually adjust it just a tad since the mp3 player should be more the focus, but rn the lanyard takes up more visual space
also yeah bloom would be a good idea
idle tinsel
Yur but Im really loving it keep going ~
idle tinsel
Yesssss
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making expressionist/absurdist geometry in blender is going to be fun
the background of this shot always facinated me
tbh I couuuuld just make it the dorm or something, but wheres the fun in that
the approach to blend the two openings styles will just be in the presentation of the bg
like using the reload shader for the bg
also probably will use their title screen colors for this shot.
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first little test
obv still got to figure out timing and everything to line up but wanted just the rough movements kind of there
plus it now completes the aigis shot
some additional things I can def add:
-maybe a reload transition or two to swap styles just for fun (back n fourth)
-swap generic silhouettes with either party members or SL's
-idk
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instead of red silhouettes, maybe something like this..?
or maybe just do this style again
but tbh that draws a bit too much attention
would cloud the shot with too many things to focus on
ORRRR i could pull a menu screen look...
ACTUALLY WAIT LET ME COOK....
sage sail
I think the style of the models in brand new days would be cool
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I think the style of the models in brand new days would be cool
wait wym?
OH wait i saw a screenshot of it yeah
||lowkey reminding me I still need to beat episode aigis ๐ญ||
HOLY MOLLY
sage sail
Do not fight the jonkler
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HOLY MOLLY
this color scheme is so good wait haha this beats my idea lolol
sage sail
Yeah it's goated frfr
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ill still try mine just as a mock up but i will more than likely go with that cause its perfect
sage sail
I think you'll have to make the s.links in that style yourself though
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I was thinking of something like this for all the Sl's
essentially just mimick the main menu look i guess
sage sail
That sounds pretty cool too, although uhhh
I think it would be too noticeable as just the menu bg
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fair enough, could make it some original ocean mock up but tbh I just vastly prefer the aigis idea haha
sage sail
Gotta say, it's one of their prettier credits for sure
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I have yet to see it in full but just from the short clips i see so far yeah it is
sage sail
They like doing this thingy where the character walks along in some other stuffs involving Aigis beforehand so it's also on brand
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yeah this feels much better
sage sail
Make a mockup for Nozomi for the memes
sage sail
instead of red silhouettes, maybe something like this..?
Wait actually, is the s.link picks deliberate here
Confused on why Akinari's there
Since he's the only non gekkou student s.link in there
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sage sail
Let's gooooooo
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Wait actually, is the s.link picks deliberate here
nah they arent
was just picking random ones to test things out with
but i am probably only going to end up using gekko students in uniform
sage sail
Oh I see, who would you pick for it?
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theres only 5 silhouettes I need to fill so it can really be anyone tbh lol
sage sail
I suppose it could be analogs for the characters
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Im thinking of maaaaybbe adding more but not entirely sure.
sage sail
That'd be tough composition wise
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school hallway maybe?
could change the bg a bit to make it look like one but still keep the general flow of the animation
sage sail
Hallway sounds pretty good
My ass was thinking the entrance but that's too open spaced
sage sail
Easy analogs is Kenji/Junpei, Akihiko/Hidetoshi, Chihiro/Fuuka, Yukari/Yuko
Oops none for Mitsuru lmfaooo
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lol yeah
sage sail
I can't even think of one outside of gekkou
Unless you want to use Bebe for an Eng only joke
Oh dear
You could stretch Chihiro for her since she becomes the future student council president
But that leaves Fuuka
Throw liz in there for the lols???
Uh, maybe Toriumi for Yukari?
Then shuffle Yuko and Chihiro between Fuuka and Mitsuru
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hmmm
sage sail
There's not much girl s.link options, it seems
Unless you're up for making femc ones which is not a good idea for this context, I think
dim swift
i would just do regular sees members
since this is bmd in fmfl style, and fmfl doesnt even feature sls, itd be odd imo
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true enough
I could just include the missing sees members from the shot that this leads to
aigis, shinji, ken, koro
sage sail
They probably disappeared because they don't look too fitting
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true enough
sage sail
Aigis using an evoker would be cursed though
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OH true haha
dim swift
They probably disappeared because they don't look too fitting
and/or spoiler territory
sage sail
Hmmmm everyone appears in it technically
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sage sail
Shit the t pose took me out
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ACTUALLY
WAIT OBSCURE REFERENCE TIME
I want to add the window in the bg to the shot maybe haha
sage sail
Oh yeah that sounds awesome
Just following the window there or do you want something used in game like before emperor/empress?
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hmm probably just copy how the window is there
although thinking about it idk if it would entirely match the enviroment
sage sail
Well, it would kinda explain their silhouettes's lighting changing one by one, although that seems odd to see windows popping up
Maybe make it appear when everyone's blacked out?
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yeaaahhh just ugh that specific art occupies this special corner of my head when i think of p3
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Maybe make it appear when everyone's blacked out?
maaaybe
sage sail
That'd be interesting, maybe add the shadows on their front as well
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my original idea was to do a fade or a fmfl transition into the bright blue used for the chorus
sage sail
Ngl this was the weakest part of the reload op
I think the windows would be cleaner here
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this is genuinely the 'hype aura and moments' part of full moon full life
doesnt really have much substance but its okay -ish
sage sail
The Thanatos of full moon full life
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yeah
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I think the windows would be cleaner here
actually you kinda right it probably would look better here...
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I think I want to use this look for the main chorus or something
I never thought about giving him red eyes but with the shatter effect it goes insanely hard
sage sail
They do use that in game a lot
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True enough
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also found the asset I was thinking of using for this shot
river sable
also found the asset I was thinking of using for this shot
how many alarm clocks does this Makoto guy need
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this is 100% going in my "memento mori rebalance's reccomended complimentary mods for restoring ps2-era soul" mod collection when it's finished. if you're looking for in-game assets to use or something, feel free to @ me anytime and i might know something. like, arcana magician for his scene is Em0501. gonna also add my two cents on something from earlier.
opaque shadow
the red-tinted aigis here definitely shouldn't have her armband, i think. the distinct way she's running with a stern, cold expression is identical to how she is when she's preparing to attack ryoji on moonlight bridge (right pic) and saying, "a machine is created for a purpose. mine is to defeat you." which gives me the impression this shot is endgame aigis (left pic, right) looking back on her emotionless killer robot persona (red/pink aigis) she displays both times she attacks ryoji on the bridge. reload also reinforces this interpretation in its opening when it depicts past aigis on the bridge with red hair.
she's not wearing the armband in that scene, and besides that, since the armband represents her bonds with sees, it makes sense the red-tinted aigis isn't wearing it. that's her without her bonds.
sage sail
Probably the storyboard for bmd would mention this
Likely that reload ran with it instead of following something beforehand
opaque shadow
it doesn't depict or mention the running red aigis at all, actually
sage sail
Yeah I mean it would mention if it was depicting that or not
opaque shadow
even so, i feel pretty strongly that the intent is symbolically depicting aigis looking at her shadow here, one of her other selves inside her being represented by the aigis that wants to kill ryoji. that's not how she normally runs outside of that scene with him, she looks cold and angry, and the other aigis looks slightly dismayed, like she doesn't like the part of herself she's seeing. could just be interpretation bias, though, so i'll leave it at that.
sage sail
I don't think that's supposed to be a shadow in general, we know what hers looks like
But I do get what you're saying
Could flash the armband back and forth maybe, since it's something she does both before and after joining sees
opaque shadow
yeah, not a literal shadow self. symbolically, an aspect of herself she doesn't like.
i say that because the shot before is the protag and orpheus, his persona/shadow/other self
i'd just keep the armband off since she isn't wearing it on the bridge either time she fights on it. when she wanders there to find human ryoji, she's just acting on her own and following her original programming to eliminate death, not acting as a member of sees. you know, thematically. obviously it wasn't part of an operation either.
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Work being a bitch these past few days but yeah honestly I didnt put 2 and 2 together to realize it was meant to be aigis against ryoji
Ill probably fix that then
dim swift
since this is bmd in fmfl style, and fmfl doesnt even feature sls, itd be odd im...
this is still how i feel about sls honestly
either way the inclusion of them is super brief here i guess
sage sail
I think it's a good evolution
OG P3 did not emphasize S.links at first
then they realize that it's a much more integral part of the appeal of P3 than they thought, so they started to emphasize them in FES
that's how you get introduction to s.links on the first day, and their subtle inclusion on the first days as background characters
Reload doubled down on this aspect by showing later s.links such as Mamoru in the first month
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this is still how i feel about sls honestly
I could just make them full red like the og to make them less 'distinct' to match bmd but also a bit of distinction for fmfl
well I could but I have an idea for the overlay w/ the circles that'll add a lot more red and more of a distinct flavor for this shot
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i'd just keep the armband off since she isn't wearing it on the bridge either ti...
Also if thats the case, I could also maybe reuse the texture meant for that fight? well she has an entirely seperate model for it but ykwim
might work and look good
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BOO AIGIS SKIN
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MAJOR IDEA
felt like adding some shit and decided on this, the idea is to have the lines work like a clock
and also transition the scene w/ the styles (maybe?)
just a very quick concept idea for the motion though
def radiates bmd vibes
I can then add a final hand that transitions the bg and characters to the bright blue during fmfl's chorus
also i got the motion of the hands from the character trailers for reload
like for example as the hand moves, it can reveal the circles from the og and transition the sl's to a full red style
plus makoto + orpheus
I feel kind of dumb realizing these should 100% be the reload version of the burn my dread color palette of sees
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slowly trying to get makoto's animation to match the og, like to make it as smooth as possible
also his shading is just a place-holder till i can figure out something to match the scene
dim swift
i like the clock ticking its very in style for p3
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i like the clock ticking its very in style for p3
yeah i def like it, will just have to fix the orgin so it ticks accurately
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now to find a way to make orpheus look
I could just copy the color scheme this shot original gives him...
or maybe apply the same shading that I gave makoto to him
sucks because outside of merch theres not much stylized artwork of orpheus
doesnt really match makoto tho
hmmm
sage sail
Looks more like Messiah to me there lol
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Looks more like Messiah to me there lol
prob cause the lines on the face
which i had to add to orpheus
glad night
plus orpheus looks a bit like messiah in it which is pretty cool foreshadowing lol
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with how blue this shot is, I might see if I can go for more blue than black for them
because the black makes him stand out yeah, but imo its a bit too much standing out
(just using photoshop blend modes to mess around) but this already feels much more natural
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keen smelt
or maybe apply the same shading that I gave makoto to him
....Did they fuck up on his bangs?
dim swift
i think you should just make skin and clothing white then make the uniform + hairs a muted blue
dim swift
or maybe apply the same shading that I gave makoto to him
also you should def make orpheus and makoto* have the same colors either way. otherwise it will stand out in a way you dont want
makoto did original have different coloring than what you gave him which does match orpheus
glad night
menacing orpheus
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ill test out the og colors rn realllll quick
itll moreso be reliant on lineart tho
they def match together but the scene as a whole idk
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same
idle tinsel
Also flip Orphues bangs Imao.
glad night
dark blue fits the scene better imo
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will admit this also looks pretty cool, but again its focused on the scene more, which this kind of takes away from
hmmmm wait.
mightve found something
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idle tinsel
Clean af
sage sail
They don't deserve faces
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heavy stone
Spooky
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You won't use their new outfits for this?
I thought including their new outfits would also be a good way to show this is the Reload version of the original op
keen smelt
Yeah- ngl Iโd say this is more like 3d Burn My Dread instead of Reload BMD
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Oh yeah I am going to have the new outfits, its basicially like going to be a transition between the original white bg with the og clothes, to the reload ones with the blue background
keen smelt
(Even then if you think of Reload Burn My Dread youโd probably think of Burn My Dread with Reloadโs animated art style. This is more like 3D Burn My Dread.)
sage sail
Idk what you mean
Burn my dread has a unique idea about it animation wise even against the animated cutscenes FES had
And Reload's animated cutscenes, or even Full Moon Full Life's animation is pretty distinct from it
If anything, burn my dread in the style of reload would be a different direction from any other reload related animation if it were officially made
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(Even then if you think of Reload Burn My Dread youโd probably think of Burn My ...
if you just mean how the original of both are 2d animated, then yes! they both are. While I could like yknow, animate it, I chose to do it in an art format I'm much more comfortable with.
I mean I still am contemplating going back and reanimating it, just cleaning up the lineart I'll make in blender.
Part of this project is doing my best to emulate the 2d animated style without going fully 2d animated. Which has helped me a ton with other minor blender projects so so far its def a success
tldr:
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Concept for the final shot of this sequence
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blocking the base of the poses
dim swift
imo you should consider gray for akihiko's vest
while red is a color dark in value it just looks odd here
dim swift
imo you should consider gray for akihiko's vest
if it looks worse tho dont sweat it and keep it black
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true enough, might be because this is their basic outfits and not the sees ones, which is where i got the colors from
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yeah
also they will be fully visible through the clock hands i just have to go back and rerender that layer
my idea is to go from the white bg with their original armbands to then the blue with their sees outfits
OR maybe when they go fully black to have the silhouette be their sees outfit
much better composition wise imo
with the original shot it looks really good too tbh
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actually wait
This dont look too bad either tbh, kinda like it
probably the best variation of this ill get
idle tinsel
Lighter blue works better for that yeah
dim swift
probably the best variation of this ill get
i think the reference to the art from p3 website isnt as obvious here
idle tinsel
I thought it was the fes title screen ๐
dim swift
i think including both this and a transition to or from a white ver would be nice but idk if that would be too many transitions in a small segment
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Yeah true enough
idle tinsel
I mean its already white pre transition
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I could like
include the windows in the bg pre transition, then post transition just have the bg be blue instead of white
dim swift
wait i swear it was different than this https://external-preview.redd.it/the-original-2006-official-website-for-the-persona-3-v0-Vwm1n7CY_ZsDeHPCG4P1g6Yl74vkbPzo-fkl-E4AOxE.jpg?auto=webp&s=901585bb4a79ecccee6c719cae071140925351aa
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theres an aigis one for fes but as far as I know that was the original site yeah
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For this last shot, heres my concept
Mimic the reload dark hour transition with clocks going with the main one, theyre going down, and then have bubbles akin to the credits go up
The 'light' in the original will be like substituted w/ the water shine
like maybe light rays through the water? that start the light glow then it settels into just the shine
sage sail
Hmmmm does it turn green at 0
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it never reaches 0
sage sail
Oh right
river sable
For this last shot, heres my concept
its peak...
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feeling real good about this specific part of the project, its all super good and dont really have much to update/change
dim swift
i think makoto is overanimated here
a simpler, comparable animation to the one in bmd would be much better visually
sage sail
You mean the hair? Honestly yeah
Probably just one slight blow is better
Also I thought he closes his eyes before the evoker shot
dim swift
by "here", i meant this shot sorry
sage sail
I'd guess that's just his evoker pointing anim in game, thinking of it
It's definitely different from the one in the OP, think the better analog of that is during the awakening cutscene
turbid lava
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Poor Yukari, getting cut off before she can change outfits
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Yeah i set her model up to and then forgot shes the only one who doesnt swap in the original lmfao
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The solution is to clearly have her change before anyone else or just before the scene transitions, smh smh, or just have her shadow change and leave her actuael normal if she's meant to stand out in that way?
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redid the animation
also thinkin of some transition like that but not entirely sure yet
mean to be a dual meaning w/ the first summon bg with og fes and modern versions with pharos
might make it so maybe like, the water or something still can be seen past the white? idk
river sable
I think it works a lot better without the transition
hard cut really sells the impact
also I think the animation of him putting the evoker to his head could use a bit more smoothing/polishing so it looks less stiff
really really good overall though
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also I think the animation of him putting the evoker to his head could use a bit...
true enough, could be a bit smoother yeah
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also heres my concept for this shot, which is probably my favorite shot from burn my dread tbh
river sable
looks so good 
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I want to give this specific shot a like, painted look, sort of, ill test it out and if it looks good Ill do it
I will most likely work on this shot first before the full red one just because atm I have the drive to do this one more
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also heres my concept for this shot, which is probably my favorite shot from bur...
not really easy to see but Im trying to also add the shards that were shown around orpheus during the awakening since its just straight up reusing the same pose n everything. I wont make them as prominent but def want to incorporate them somehow into this.
The clouds will more than likely be the most difficult aspect of it tbh but ive already found possible ways to do it
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progress on orpheus
atm automatically rendering the shadows but ill then just map it and fix whats needed
idle tinsel
i like the countdown segment but I kinda miss this idk if u could replicate something similar with a water motif
maybe the water is opaque and the water scattering becomes brighter and darker like the bmd?
idk
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Yeah i was trying to think of a possible way to incorporate that section but couldn't come up with much either
Like yeah I could do like light rays coming through the water but it might look out of place with the new motif
this texture looks so amazing,
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Progress on orpheus, just A LOT of touching up the texture, all thats really left is the harp I think
latent slate
this texture looks so amazing,
Kris Deltarune
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OH GOD WAIT IT IS JUST KRIS ๐ญ
river sable
dim swift
Yeah i was trying to think of a possible way to incorporate that section but cou...
you could have light filtering through water
deep water without lighting is deep navy/pitch black anyways
red wave
Bangin texture my man
dim swift
you could have light filtering through water
this is technically how main menu in game works too
the deeper you go in settings/menus/config, the darker color the water is
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you could have light filtering through water
Do you have any like reference/ visual for what you mean?
dim swift
Do you have any like reference/ visual for what you mean?
think camp menu, but the water filters through slowly? i made these mockups kinda too Circle in how the water opens up, you can commit to the rectangle shape more. think of it as a water tank or smth being opened up from the middle (i dont really know how to describe it..) i know this is really hard to bring into actual reality but you can do like light rays which will help. no worries if you dont use this idea its hard to implement ๐
dim swift
Cleaner animation + bloom
forgot to comment but the animation is a lot nicer now good job 
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think camp menu, but the water filters through slowly? i made these mockups kind...
Ohhh I get you, I can see. Might be able to pull it off
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think camp menu, but the water filters through slowly? i made these mockups kind...
OH, maybe have an evoker falling into the water to justify the water glint/changes?
fun idea
sage sail
Hmmmmm the end credits does this, no?
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the credits have makoto falling in the water, actually most of this scene I based off of the credits both of og and reload
sage sail
Nah I mean the dark water with a light source in the middle
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oh yeah
keen smelt
i like the countdown segment but I kinda miss this idk if u could replicate some...
Ya know, just realized this but it kind of looks like a door opening
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posing
cyan cape
Stanced up
idle tinsel
Ya know, just realized this but it kind of looks like a door opening
I kinda thought of it as an elevator
sage sail
It's a dark room among the sea of hallways in the intro
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so I've never messed with volumetrics in blender buttttt
@dim swift the idea is def possible
glad night
i love the two types of analog clock
kind harness
Can you show us the full thing w/ what you have so far?
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Yeah just will take a bit to render, also still at work
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Will slow it down a bit but I like it
will also try to make a more uniform central light for the begining
idle tinsel
Way better tbh
river sable
the initial flash should probably happen a bit earlier imo, to where it looks like it's lighting up a dark background
atm it just looks like a transition effect for the text, which seems a bit odd
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yeah adjusting it a bit
also forgot but this is the mockup for the 3d clouds I had in mind, using geometry node magic
dim swift
not gonna lie what i had in mind was it slowly progressing from barely any light shining in to progressively seeing more light
its why i sent the images i made in a progression like that ๐
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Ohhhh
dim swift
yeah similar to how light flows in in original bmd
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test anim for the clouds
the plan is to give it a similar shading/style to ingame enviorment texture
(aka like this)
think that would be the best middleground of detail and style to match the scene
or these kinda clouds, either or
better look at idea (kinda)
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Finally finished animating the cloud shapes, now to actually give them depth 
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Thinking of going something like this for the shading
idle cobalt
There's been a lot of great progress made since i last checked in! It's looking great.
idle cobalt
re: the red aigis/mp3 scene i love the vibe and framing but i feel it loses something now that aigis is no longer being lit by the object?
the object itself was kind of random in the original, but now that it's been given actual meaning here maybe that could be reincorporated somehow?
like the display being lit up (taking artistic license since the mp3 player wouldnt actually light up like this)
it links the mp3 player with the rest of the scene more directly
otherwise, no notes! i'm loving it
sage sail
This makes me think the MP3 player is super big and behind her for some reason
idle cobalt
lmao
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mystic saddle
Cool
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thoughts on maybe adding the glass effect like in the actual scene
er hmmm, i like it but I have to remember I havent animated orpheus or included the shapes yet
plus the shadow thatll appear. so maybe it might be too much going on
idle cobalt
i like the glass
it also functions as a visual throughline from the cut of makoto dissipating into glass and becoming thanatos within the text
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Oh your right
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sage sail
What if it's a pc bg
dim swift
thoughts on maybe adding the glass effect like in the actual scene
i like the way you did it, would like to see how it looks again later when youre mostly done w the scene
dim swift
also theres a rendering error (?) here, at the end of the loop where the cloud moves to the right and becomes small
sorry not rendering error, it just doesnt loop right but ig it wouldnt need to loop
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maybe having both spirals would be better for consistency. but then it makes things a bit more cluttered imo
I think the one might just be best for also a visual connection with the previous shot too.
thought id mess with the idea just in case though
sage sail
It's honestly cluttered in the cutscene too
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yeah it is, guess its a difference in intent for each scene.
idle cobalt
i think the single spiral is better
the original opening does a lot with simplicity, and a single spiral fits the aesthetic vibe way better
reload also didn't do the spirals around orpheus this time, so it wouldn't be visually inconsistent with Reload itself
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yeah its weird, they kept the spirals for revealing orpheus but not for the main shot with orpheus haha
also its like just bubbles (?) in reload
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well I think overall Im kind of done with this scene, not much more I can add without taking away from the original
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Yeah that looks great
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OH wait, might add the slight view of the moon through the clouds
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Hmmmmmm what's left actually
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Hmmmmmm what's left actually
for this scene?
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Nah i mean for the whole OP
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oh just the rest of the opening after that, also some earlier scenes I want to redo
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Oh so the staircase
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