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#Persona 3 Reload | Master Quest
hollow trail
yes
but i have to make it from scratch
the only item selection menus in the game are uh
ashen pulsar
hollow trail
souvenirs for ken
vegetables
phys cards
mag cards
heal cards
passive cards
urls
presents
no menu for materials
i can make my own, but it wouldnt have icons
and also no way of checking prior if you have the item
just a list of all of them and "uh fuck you you don't have it" if you pick it
iron pilot
F
Wouldn't the antique menu work?
Thinking of it
It's may fucking 29
When is wave 2 dropping
inland crystal
may 32nd
iron pilot
Tf is dead moon husk anyways
hollow trail
ikr
inland crystal
Tf is dead moon husk anyways
corn husk from the moon
native garden
How tf did the kirijo group get it if it's from the moon
Uh..they kept some blueprints from the Nanjo group before they separated from them?
iron pilot
That doesn't explain getting shit from the moon
hollow trail
DMH makes even less sense
"dead moon's husk" means it's the husk of a moon that died
so, not even our moon
and a husk is the entire, hollow thing
which would be huge
iron pilot
It's Nyx's shit
Probably
But being serious, I think it's related to Nyx in some way
Probably the same type of material the avatar's sword comes from
Funnier idea, it's a random hollow meteor
Technically that would be considered as a moon
Lmfaooo
inland crystal
its the astroid that killed the dinosaurs
celest kindle
The fox god of crafting
hard vault
hollow trail
hard vault
Honestly i vibe with this more than i do skill cards weirdly enough
hard vault
Skill cards just seem a bit too free in this game because of instant duplication
hollow trail
MQ negates grinding by capping your xp
so you'd literally just be grinding empty fights and savescumming
this fixes that
get at least one and you're good
iron pilot
So nothing that to add?
hollow trail
wdym 
hollow trail
idk š like half of MQ is just shit i added while waiting for wave 2 bro
they're basically polishing it for me
iron pilot
Happy birthday in a few hours on your end
Probably the only thing left is asking what to do with weapons and equips
iron pilot
Passive availability between girls and boys (and Aigis) is a genuine problem though, if you ask me
Koro doesn't apply though he's too goated lmao
hollow trail
I'm not too bothered by it but i get your point
dreamy orchid
Aigis is the only one who actually struggles with it tbh
Not being able to stack strike boosters when her final skill is a strike move is funny
iron pilot
Nah no shift boosts on girls is a problem
dreamy orchid
Its a bit of a shame but not really the end of the world considering most major bosses won't really allow you to use shifts by the time you'd have access to the equips
iron pilot
It's an important skill in terms of monad bosses at the end
dreamy orchid
Those aren't really too relevant either considering MQ doesn't edit them
You could also just shift to someone else tbh
celest kindle
I thought Meovv was gonna touch on the Monad Bosses
iron pilot
Nah
dreamy orchid
I feel like Yukari wouldn't benefit at all from it whereas Mitsuru's usefulness is mostly in utility and not raw damage especially for theurgia
hollow trail
I thought Meovv was gonna touch on the Monad Bosses
monads and gatekeepers were supposed to be after the release
if i felt it necessary
(it kinda isnt)
everything else done to the game already makes them harder
otherwise i'd have to code like 30 or 40 new ais
iron pilot
HP edits to some harabah mfs probably needed
Those guys are too weak
That one dice mf is a decent example
hollow trail
harabah is easy because the game stalls and you overlevel doing rescues though
i dont mind looking at a list of gatekeeper mfs and increasing stats a bit
but THAT level of change does need a ton of testing
cant just have faith in the system
need to play all of them in legit save
they are the xp source
iron pilot
Yeah that's true
hollow trail
and i do think gatekeepers in general were made harder by virtue of the rest of the changes
this being my fav example
it was a fun fight imo
iron pilot
Gambling with 17% crit rate Siegfried when they reach Harabah fr
dreamy orchid
you'd get higher than 17% lol
hollow trail
if you do i think it's earned
only reason i didnt nerf rebellion/revolution/critboost/critamp is because i don't want to make junpei objectively shit
you can make the rates high
but with setup
not free
dreamy orchid
1% Scarlet Havoc -> 2% with Apt Pupil -> 9% with Auto-Rebellion -> 24% with Crit Rate Amp -> 39% with Revolution
So you can def make it consistent but phys mfs will need to run Koromaru if they want to nuke with Theurgia. Normal phys skills will be relatively consistent either way though due to them not having completely dogshit crit rates even if they were nerfed
iron pilot
Iirc in Vanilla it can go up to 55% no rebellion/revolution
hollow trail
1% Scarlet Havoc -> 2% with Apt Pupil -> 9% with Auto-Rebellion -> 24% with Crit...
"2% with apt pupil" is the funniest shit ive ever heard
a WHOLE double
hollow trail
yea
dreamy orchid
definitely worth a skill slot (it isn't)
hollow trail
it is for non trg skills
iron pilot
If the luck is dogshit enough, apt pupil wouldn't even add anything
dreamy orchid
well its worth it for normal skills but if you're making a scarlet havoc bot then just ignore it
native garden
So skill card duping got replaced with base material duping???
hollow trail
yes
native garden
Ohh ok. I am surprised you were able to do that without the game softlocking itself
hollow trail
it wasn't too hard
just a little puzzle
there's only 2 issues with it and they're both pretty small
- it will always show you every material that exists in the game as an option so it technically spoils you, but that's not exactly a bad thing (you can know ahead of time that better materials will exist)
- it doesn't have icons in the selection menu but that's cosmetic
and ig it doesn't tell you how many of a material you have
but when you dupe something as rare as materials i think you already have the intent/choice made of what you wanted
hollow trail
- Most major bosses have been given smarter AI and/or increased stats. This includes all Full Moon bosses, Strega, The Reaper, Nyx Avatar, and Elizabeth.
- Some bosses have received edits to their affinities. This can include becoming vulnerable to ailments such as Freezing, allowing for more party member combos.
- Chidori's bossfight is no longer a scripted cutscene and features entirely new AI written from scratch.
- Fixes a bug that allows cheesing the Reaper at Level 14.
- Removes an exploit that allows skipping Elizabeth's 3rd Phase.
- Aigis will be more intelligent when utilizing Orgia Mode.
- The use of Revival items such as Band-Ace and Balm of Life is banned. Skills are a requirement.
- The use of HP/SP recovery items is banned during battle. They can however be used in dungeons. Battle-only items such as Weird Takoyaki and Muscle Drink can be used in battle.
- All HP/SP recovery items have had their effects greatly reduced.
- Edited the powers of Yukari, Yuko, and Fuuka's Christmas gifts. They are now the same as Mitsuru's. Chihiro's item is an accessory as per the vanilla game.
- The cost of all healing items has been doubled.
- Weird Takoyaki's price has been increased.
- The cost of all healing skills has been greatly increased.
- Akihiko's moveset is greatly expanded to put him on par with the rest of the team.
- Koromaru can no longer use the skill Debilitate. (Given to Akihiko)
- Ken will now learn the skill Endure.
- Physical skill powers have been greatly decreased.
- Physical skill costs have been moderately increased.
- Physical crit rates have been greatly decreased.
- Junpei's Hack 'n' Blast Theurgy has had its power moderately decreased.
- All Physical Theurgies have had their critical rates drastically decreased.
- Fuuka's Oracle has had its SP Recovery drastically decreased.
- Several magical skills have had their power and costs adjusted. Dyne skill power is greatly increased to match the original Persona 3.
- All DLC Personas have had their exclusive moves removed. They can safely be fused in legitimate gameplay.
- Accuracy can now go as low as 0% and as high as 100%.
- It is now possible to guarantee ailment hits if optimal conditions are met.
- It is now possible to guarantee escape in optimal conditions.
- Charge and Concentrate effects have been reduced.
- Ailment recovery rates are now the same for the player and the enemy.
- Poison damage has been reduced. The damage cap for Poison has been drastically reduced.
- Major Arcana cards are now guaranteed to appear in Shuffle Time.
- Level scaling has been entirely removed from the game to allow intelligent low level strategies. Damage is determined by stats, and stats are gained through levels and equipment.
- XP from enemies at a level lower than the Player has been drastically reduced. At 4 levels or higher, 0 XP is awarded.
- Shadows in the areas of Tartarus only accessible on 1/31 have had their level increased.
- Enemy damage has been increased by approx. 10% in Merciless, Hard and Normal.
- Player damage has been decreased by approx. 10% in Merciless, Hard and Normal.
- The bonus damage from hitting weaknesses and criticals in Merciless has been removed from the player.
- The bonus damage from hitting weaknesses and criticals in Merciless has been increased for the enemy. Added to Hard as well.
- The enemy is now more likely to hit ailments on the player on Merciless and Hard.
- The player's artificial ailment rate reduction on Merciless has been removed.
- The party's Theurgy gauge is fully depleted at the start of all Bosses, Gatekeepers, and Monad Gatekeepers.
- Skill Card Duplication has been removed.
- Base Material Duplication has been added to the Inari Shrine.
- All URLs related to the Ambush mechanic are no longer available for sale.
- The cost of certain Antique Store consumables has been greatly increased.
- Bead Chain EX has been removed from the Antique Store.
- Snuff Soul and Chewing Soul have been removed from the Antique Store.
- Regenerate, Invigorate, and Life Aid have been removed from the Antique Store.
Incompatibilities:
- AI Tactics Fixes: Included in Master Quest, as it's needed to prevent them from using Revival items.
- DLC Rework: Custom version Included in Master Quest, as it removes all exclusive skills, which the base mod does not do.
Planned features (Currently impossible to implement):
- Tiredness mechanic option
- Custom vs Abaddon fight with Takaya ally
hollow trail
* All URLs related to the Ambush mechanic are no longer available for sale.
* Th...
i dont think i missed anything
iron pilot
Wdym by that "fixed a bug that allows skipping Elizabeth phases"
That's a bit misleading I think, you can still skip phase 2 with proper aligning
I think it's better to say "removed the ability to skip Elizabeth's 3rd phase"
hollow trail
native garden
Rest in Peace SP healing items and Bead Chain EX
iron pilot
Gonna bet wave 2 is not dropping tom
iron pilot
Well we did prove it's more than possible to beat up the bosses without using your cookie
iron pilot
Issue of skill.
native garden
Reload tiredness......
iron pilot
Nah I think you can get away without even doing that
native garden
Iām not a fan of the probably part
iron pilot
Social stats wise we don't even need shit like the academics boost from the helmet request anymore
It's very lenient
hollow trail
main reason I want tiredness is to nerf arcana burst and to drag you out of Tartarus, which also means making gear becomes more common
as for what tiredness would do, I think I'd make it disable Theurgia gauge gain when tired (idk if I can do it tho?), and also making party members leave on return
native garden
as for what tiredness would do, I think I'd make it disable Theurgia gauge gain ...
Would tiredness also make you take more damage and deal less damage?
ashen pulsar
make it delete all saves except slot no. 1
native garden
make it delete all saves except slot no. 1
Damn, I didnāt know Persona 3 Reload is as scary as a game like Slenderman
iron pilot
Protag solo using Mithras in that one specific yabasshah fight
ashen pulsar
what
hollow trail
Would tiredness also make you take more damage and deal less damage?
impossible to implement
through flow anyway
ashen pulsar
i believe in you king
iron pilot
Lmao Wave 2 dropped
celest kindle
In Japan
iron pilot
Funniest birthday gift ever
celest kindle
Are you Japanese Doors
iron pilot
No, but it means it should drop for us tomorrow
iron pilot
By the way can I set those MQ testing vids public when it drops
celest kindle
If Meovv lets you, you should make a playlist
celest kindle
I mean you could change the titles to include the versions you were using
Or just clarifying it's pre-release footage
hollow trail
By the way can I set those MQ testing vids public when it drops
yeah ofc i think that's fine
iron pilot
It'll just be the 1/31 ones
ashen pulsar
chastity cage
hollow trail
aw rip negative numbers arent allowed
ashen pulsar
doomed
hollow trail
i wanted to make something that would give a crazy boost but fuck over your endurance
or something
stuff like that
iron pilot
PQ type beat
ashen pulsar
+auto sukukaja
-auto tarunda
ashen pulsar
why is that even a preset they have
ashen pulsar
ah
hollow trail
I dont want to bruteforce every ID come on man
ashen pulsar
dew it
hollow trail
i think its op
iron pilot
Nah that's shit, get the 5 hp one
Also are the skill ids different from the ones in the wiki
hollow trail
yes thats why this is so annoying
found it
its fucking BMD
LOL
bad news gang
@dreamy orchid this is relevant to you
dreamy orchid
wait whats happened
dreamy orchid
ah yeah
hollow trail
there's an ID/text for reducing stats, but the table doesn't actually allow it
dreamy orchid
i was testing out some of them so i had a vague idea but a full list is good
hollow trail
so cant do that either
dreamy orchid
this is why sh2 is better
hollow trail
yup
i wonder if putting "ignore enemy resistances" on an accessory makes it apply to everything
ashen pulsar
Isn't that already implemented
hollow trail
wdym
no
"ignore enemy resistances" is a weapon buff
not an accessory buff
which is what i was testing
ashen pulsar
ah
hollow trail
putting it in an accessory just applies it to all weapons
ashen pulsar
op?
ashen pulsar
true .
ashen pulsar
what does damage up as opposed to boost do
hollow trail
idk values
i believe they stac
tho?
unless it only applies to weapon too
doubt
ashen pulsar
test it king
š
ashen pulsar
anubpotent orb
hollow trail
i can confirm it is uh
not THAT good
guys i think strega won
@iron pilot what was the argument for Fire Amp Laevateinn again? And which Strike Amp gear did you want on Aigis?
ig i'm able to do it now to all equipment
as long as the effect exists
ashen pulsar
he wanted to be able to run both amps so junpei isn't forced into one or the other
hollow trail
oh its impossible otherwise?
dreamy orchid
yeah
he only gets boost weapon for both his things
so he can only get amps from accessory
hollow trail
it feels like a downgrade though
balance wise i mean
there's a sidegrade choice being removed
ashen pulsar
his argument was that since you still didn't stack boost+amp it already is a sidegrade
dreamy orchid
is that necessarily a bad thing?
hollow trail
Slash Amp + Fire Boost seems infinitely more balanced considering the power of blaze of life
dreamy orchid
I think Magic Junpei being more immediately viable is funny
dreamy orchid
I don't really think just fire boost alone would be worth more than slash boost + slash amp together
the higher average damage would just be much better along with boost + amp hack n blast probably being more worth it even with the nerfs. right now i feel like you'd really just wanna go all in on one or the other
hollow trail
I feel like that's good because of SL requirements
Missed Surt, can still go Slash
idk
it's weird to give Junpei, an already op party member, a damage booster
in a challenge mode mod
dreamy orchid
But you nerfed him in several ways already lol
ashen pulsar
well it might also be worth considering that the protagonist will basically always have all boosts too so closing the gap isn't as much of an issue especially if it's equipment only that isn't always viable
ashen pulsar
And if you miss surt you still have amp accessory, just not boost weapon
hollow trail
let me peek antique store
ashen pulsar
Feels weird closing the gap on just him tbh <:KEKW:813634519152328704>
more exclusive equips could be sauce
hollow trail
im limited by the existing effects
i can try tho
i'd love for kurosawa weapons to not be ass either
well
they're decent in MQ for priestess
gives me the edge needed to win
(comfortably)
last minute tweaks before dlc 
ngl if it had released on may 1st it would've been ass
native garden
Breaking News: Florida Man too angry to die.
dreamy orchid
seems self-evident but they'd still suck 
they have high freeze tho so really ice boost is a nerf
hollow trail
yh
ashen pulsar
fureeze
hollow trail
a lot of these weapons seem cool but ultimately purposeless
they just do what another teammate can do as base, but worse
dreamy orchid
its kind of impossible to make them good while the attack stats are halved
unless you just give them funny op passives
but there's only so many of them
hollow trail
i've definitely decided i'm not doubling them though because it doesn't really make sense for weapons (that cost nothing to use) deal matching damage to other skills
dreamy orchid
give ken shift boost spear or some shit it'd be funny
dreamy orchid
i've definitely decided i'm not doubling them though because it doesn't really m...
well they take setup to be useful anyways and you lose out on a good passive if you're running a weapon just for an attack stat
and the phys ones always have less crit than phys skills
dreamy orchid
yes but they're actively worse anyways
i don't get why they should be useless in general, but like again there is no real good solution to this until blueprint editing is possible
ashen pulsar
i've definitely decided i'm not doubling them though because it doesn't really m...
i think the bigger consequence is making aoa significantly stronger
dreamy orchid
give every enemy hidden resistance to all out attack
dreamy orchid
biggest bandaid oat
hollow trail
remind me again what was the point of magic ability on mitsuru
i know there's a stack somewhere
but boost+amp?
dreamy orchid
ice boost + ice amp + ability
hollow trail
she can have all 3?
ashen pulsar
she has boost innate
dreamy orchid
ice boost innate, ice amp accessory, magic ability weapon
dreamy orchid
you get ice amp accessory before getting the ice amp weapon and the weapon removes her ability to do slash shit if you got rid of neuro slash so imo that thing is pretty dogshit
hollow trail
arms master for aigis ultimate is so funny bro
dreamy orchid
arms master in p3n
phys skills cap at like 20% cost for the good ones in this game
only god's hand gets to 25% lol
hollow trail
xd
hollow trail
what if i gave Metatronius Pierce Amp
dreamy orchid
i think aigis should have a strike boost option
hollow trail
wasnt bdjk asking for that
dreamy orchid
nah thats redundant
ashen pulsar
strike amp
dreamy orchid
no better idea
ashen pulsar
since there's currently no way for her to get both strike boost+amp
dreamy orchid
make the stupid rocket punch weapon that liz gives you strike boost
and make it strike affinity
hollow trail
oh fuck yeah i need to do the thing where weapon affinity is based on the weapon's model
hollow trail
+strike damage up / +strike boost <:naotroll:846644435911049237>
can't stac
2 effects on same gear
dreamy orchid
spiked bat op
hollow trail
who had that one
dreamy orchid
there is a +strike damage up one?
hollow trail
junshit?
dreamy orchid
Junpeak has it yeah
ashen pulsar
did you test what damage up actually did tho
dreamy orchid
you get it in harabah
dreamy orchid
did you test what damage up actually did tho
inb4 its driver
ashen pulsar
omg this game has too many weapons mf
and they're all invalidated by base affinity boost ones
dreamy orchid
add a magic ability accessory (literally only useful for Ken and no other character)
ashen pulsar
haxman...
dreamy orchid
OH TRUE
magic ability haxman sounds hilarious actually
would mean no strike boost too 
hollow trail
aigis grenade launchers were strike in fes no?
ashen pulsar
no
hollow trail
MC:
- Steel Pipe - Strike
Junpei:
- Spiked Bat - Strike
Mitsuru:
- Longinus - Pierce
Koromaru:
- Bone - Strike
Ken:
- Scrub Brush - Strike
i cant think of any other weapons lmao
dreamy orchid
Shinjiro Axe as slash
hollow trail
is there anything for mc that could pierce
hollow trail
Shinjiro Axe as slash <:naotroll:846644435911049237>
not slash in fes dont care (too many axes)
ashen pulsar
they never changed archetype besides elementals
dreamy orchid
lemme check
dreamy orchid
i don't think you can do almighty weapons
hollow trail
you can
dreamy orchid
i tried to make one and it makes the atk stat disappear
dreamy orchid
i think i tested 7 along with 9 and 10
cus i was just trying to play about with it and see what i could do
there are some akihiko fists you could argue could be like slash too
like bladed fists
but imo who care
dreamy orchid
could also argue that Gae Bolg should be wind but like it wouldn't have a purpose as that given that weapons do zero damage now
ashen pulsar
aoa
hollow trail
could also argue that Gae Bolg should be wind but like it wouldn't have a purpos...
I don't see why not
dreamy orchid
well its effect is +light boost
so it'd be a bit weird for it to give you wind attacks while boosting light skills
hollow trail
real
dreamy orchid
is that sabazios new effect lol
ashen pulsar
ICE BOOSTA
dreamy orchid
the auto-heat riser thing kind of sucks but i don't really like removing it tbh. it does technically help with buff amp and also it feels like some nice continuity between him and Shinjiro, with him literally getting his trait
hollow trail
the weak-seeking AIs love targetting him first, so evade strat is actually a pretty good niche
dreamy orchid
you could also just give evil gloves give him +all stats like it did in the original to make it good lol
hollow trail
i think this weapon with suku and ali dance will disable most enemies onemore strats
ashen pulsar
sukugaja
dreamy orchid
haxuman 1000000% evasion
ashen pulsar
:maireFlushed":
dreamy orchid
that but actually real
test to see how good it is
do we know how much magic evasion (high) is
ashen pulsar
isnt it 10/20/30
hollow trail
30 it is
ashen pulsar
kiss
dreamy orchid
how does it work in p3n tho
ashen pulsar
30% chance toget laid
iron pilot
You mean to not get laid right
ashen pulsar
true.,...
iron pilot
Anyways surt swordi fire amp is a way to
Make magic Junpei appealing at a first glance
Make him a weaker version of Akihiko Phys/Mag duality as an option
Also if you want Magic Ability equip I'd probably do it on Chihiro's equipment and make it protag only somehow
Thinking of it
Wouldn't an invig bow work on Yukari
ashen pulsar
that should be easy to implement
the protag only thing
but why would you run invigorate
lmfao she doesn't use sp
iron pilot
But it certainly is an appealing option for some, mainly in explorations
Just invig 2
dreamy orchid
girls get invig 3 on boots already
ashen pulsar
slayyyy
dreamy orchid
and you have accessories
invig bow is dumb
high iq is ken magic ability spear š
i wish there were more funny options
ashen pulsar
check damage up!!
iron pilot
Invig boots is Harabah that's late
I was thinking Yabasshah tier
If it's really a problem invig 1 isn't that bad actually
Rocket punch strike boost gloves is good for Aigis tho
hollow trail
I did
Omnipotent Orb
+99 En / Invig 3 / Regen 3
(I don't expect it to be used)
Many Liz weapons are Strike now
Longinus is Pierce
Rocket Punch is Strike and has Strike Boost
Laevateinn has Fire Amp
Evil Gloves is +7 Ag +7 Lu +Magic Evade High
Shinji axes are slash
and i think that's mostly it
iron pilot
Wdym liz weapon
ashen pulsar
the bat
hollow trail
Bone, Steel Pipe, Bat
iron pilot
Oh thos
iron pilot
I thought you meant the funny book and cards
hollow trail
everyone gets a strike wep now actually now that i think about it
except mitsuru
she gets piercing
ashen pulsar
penetration midsuru? š„“
iron pilot
What did she mean by that
Also inb4 people complain about no early game apt pupil Junpei
ashen pulsar
whjat
hollow trail
Wdym
iron pilot
Average bainz viewer think Junpei's mid early-midgame because he doesn't have apt pupil
hollow trail
wow a whole 1%
ashen pulsar
i don't think it's catering to youtube onlies lol
iron pilot
Yeah but point is, they'll get skill issue'd
ashen pulsar
what
bro you're talking about like the kind of people who don't even know boosts stack
that kind of brainpower
iron pilot
Clearly your authority is based on the number of subs you have
ashen pulsar
submissives
dreamy orchid
rip omnipotent orb
hollow trail
(make the orb not null all)
i already did that's the point
also not just ng+
can beat liz and cheese nyx
iron pilot
What did you change it to
hollow trail
I did
Omnipotent Orb
+99 En / Invig 3 / Regen 3
(I don't expect it to be used)
...
bro
it's okay but really mid compared to just about everything else
and to me that's fine
hollow trail
nah
ashen pulsar
but invig 3
op combo?
hollow trail
I'm doing Omnipotent on Ken and Firm Stance on MC when i play i think
ashen pulsar
why firm stance
hollow trail
because halving damage is very good on nyx
iron pilot
Bricked up
ashen pulsar
but ari dansu is on shoe
ashen pulsar
you removed the evade cap tho
hollow trail
yeah, doesn't mean it'll naturally fall to 0
dreamy orchid
yeah but statistically ali dance would always be better with evasion cap gone
especially if you have endures available as a safety net
ashen pulsar
and doesn't take up an accessory or skill slot
dreamy orchid
i feel like you'd want a persona with firm stance for tanking option but ali dance on shoes
iron pilot
That's what I do!!!
ashen pulsar
:bdjk:
iron pilot
Only when doing a Liz restriction run though
dreamy orchid
firm stance pretty horrible compared to ali dance if there is no evasion cap though
it also makes sukukaja worthless for protag which is a nerf to haxman and peakomaru
ashen pulsar
errrm... hit rate up...?
hollow trail
worthless? it's stacking, what
ashen pulsar
onion chan meant that sukukaja is worthless with firm stance because evasion doesn't matter
ashen pulsar
DONT KILL THE MESSENGER
hollow trail
dreamy orchid
that's why my aki doesn't have suku
nerfs debilitate too tbf...
hollow trail
nerfs debilitate too tbf...
If I'm firm stancing i clearly don't care about my mc's evasion
but i get you
dreamy orchid
firm stance just seems kind of silly unless you are using it to intentionally get downed on some bdjk strat
dreamy orchid
do a bare essentials run
ashen pulsar
perusona essentials
dreamy orchid
unoptimised persona builds, no ali dance, firm stance or endures
hollow trail
if you play like that uninstall mq
dreamy orchid
well it'd be fun to test the waters to see whats possible
hollow trail
well I know quite a bit is
hollow trail
evasion cap 0% is really funny man
native garden
if you play like that uninstall mq
hollow trail
has anyone actually managed to make the hitrate 0%
dreamy orchid
vanilla-accurate phys build (no boosters, just apt pupil and arms master)
hollow trail
that's problematic if yes
iron pilot
https://tenor.com/view/atlus-persona-jack-frost-devil-children-shin-megami-tense...
Murakumo
dreamy orchid
even if it were possible, it wouldn't happen against an enemy with 99ag like nyx
ashen pulsar
make fat hands 100% evade
dreamy orchid
give nyx ali dance
hollow trail
make fat hands 100% evade
they already are actually
when I was testing the hands were unironically like 5% hitrate
ashen pulsar
fat hands with ali dance, auto sukukaja, auto masukunda
dreamy orchid
do the fat fucks have ali dance too
native garden
Give Nyx Hassou Tobi
dreamy orchid
Give Nyx Hassou Tobi
she already does have that
hollow trail
(vanilla)
hollow trail
hands have 99 ag and 99 lu in p3r yes
dreamy orchid
well keep in mind bestie
evasion cap + party has auto-masukukaja and auto-masukunda
ashen pulsar
auto sukunda op?
hollow trail
I was literally unable to defeat thebel hands without giving Junpei sukukaja
ashen pulsar
huh?
hollow trail
(in mq)
ashen pulsar
ah
hollow trail
ye cuz vanilla would just cap rate to 50
dreamy orchid
maybe p4 has no evasion cap considering how often the gold hands dodge there
lmaooo
ashen pulsar
zrego says it doesn't but he's not exactly reliable
hollow trail
doesn't p5r also have a pathetically low cap
i see videos of people nohitting lavenza with 100% evade rate
ashen pulsar
pretyty sure p5r is capped to 50
iron pilot
Same
ashen pulsar
i think they just reloaded ( 
) saves
iron pilot
Skill
hollow trail
bro actually
I wanna see someone run evade build on a full party
literally just 4 misses every time
native garden
Can I beat Persona 3 Reload Master Quest without taking damage?
iron pilot
Optimized theurgia run nowadays do need 4 dodges sometimes
hollow trail
Can I beat Persona 3 Reload Master Quest without taking damage?
no because of early game
iron pilot
Can I beat Persona 3 Reload Master Quest without taking damage?
Definitely not anymore
ashen pulsar
lovers moment
iron pilot
You can't Armageddon Nyx even if you somehow managed to beat Lovers ND
hollow trail
oh yeah lovers is gonna trol
did someone play emperor and empress
i feel like that one's a bit funny
dreamy orchid
can you beat persona 3 reload master quest with only ken amada
iron pilot
I don't have a save there soz
ashen pulsar
kenneth amada over protag
native garden
can you beat persona 3 reload master quest with only ken amada
Can you beat persona 3 reload master quest with Yukari only?
hollow trail
nope
native garden
iron pilot
Just dodge?
dreamy orchid
nah you could do it but it'd take ages
iron pilot
There is but it's Thor locked and a material in Harabah
dreamy orchid
you'd also need to cast wind break every 3 turns
ashen pulsar
0 damage
hollow trail
just spam dia and trg
iron pilot
You could also just use theurgia to attack
dreamy orchid
and yukari's damage then is awful cus she has no boost stacking and no garudyne yet
dreamy orchid
theurgia rate is nerfed during bosses
celest kindle
Think fellas
hollow trail
sakukaja
celest kindle
Yes
dreamy orchid
or well, her one is for healing
celest kindle
Peakari Takeba wins every time
ashen pulsar
samukaja for dodging only magic when
hollow trail
F tier
iron pilot
Makakaja
hollow trail
yukari is literally only buffed by virtue of items being banned now lol
ashen pulsar
actually
dreamy orchid
Yukari is only in E- tier and not F because party wide concentrate will be more useful now
iron pilot
That and Magic being very reliable now
dreamy orchid
yukari is literally only buffed by virtue of items being banned now lol
kid named ken amada:
hollow trail
ok gooner
iron pilot
What did bro mean by that
ashen pulsar
meow meow you can't deny
dreamy orchid
horrible out of context screenshot
native garden
yukari is literally only buffed by virtue of items being banned now lol
fine how about for the phys enjoyers where is it possible to beat persona 3 reload master quest with physical skills only?
ashen pulsar
jmedia7 is the king
iron pilot
Yeah you can win with phys only party
dreamy orchid
<:hollow:937609380361289799> ~~fine how about for the *phys* enjoyers where is i...
definitely yea
hollow trail
phys is very nerfed but it is still viable
hollow trail
ashen pulsar
omg funnt dog
dreamy orchid
can you beat persona 3 reload with an absolutely abysmal dogshit team comp
what is the team comp that has the least possible synergy with each other
ashen pulsar
yukari, midsuru, x
dreamy orchid
nah cus yukari synergises with mitsuru even if mitsuru is kind of yucky
hollow trail
can you beat persona 3 reload with naoto
iron pilot
Phys Junpei, Akihiko without strike boosts Aigis but with only Primal Force
ashen pulsar
dreamy orchid
no because naoto is so dogshit that she ain't even in the game
ashen pulsar
meow meow, is haxman butter than naoto?
hollow trail
ig
ashen pulsar
iron pilot
Butter???
celest kindle
š§
dreamy orchid
Phys Junpei, Akihiko without strike boosts Aigis but with only Primal Force
how about: no boosters junpei, no boosters aigis, no boosters yukari
native garden
I wanna beat MQ with Jack Frost only
dreamy orchid
mid frost
iron pilot
Well fuck you
ashen pulsar
sexo
iron pilot
Fuse
dreamy orchid
use black frost at least
iron pilot
Now.
celest kindle
If you make 8 Element Jack Frost you might be able to
native garden
use black frost at least
Black Frost looks too scary
dreamy orchid
meow meow, is haxman butter than naoto?
i think naoto is better than most characters
native garden
Iāll just keep Jack Frost
celest kindle
Black Frost looks too scary
Why
dreamy orchid
mamudoon tickles the brain very well
ashen pulsar
yeah but shes not hot like haxman
iron pilot
Jack Frost with Agi > Chernobog Scarlet Havoc bot
dreamy orchid
and infinity on a party member is objectively hilarious no matter how mediocre it may be
iron pilot
Cock gloves makes you dodge
native garden
ChatGPT, how do I beat the first boss of Persona 3 Reload: Master Quest? I canāt use items
hollow trail
it is working
iron pilot
Skill issue
hollow trail
the wot
hollow trail
they arent
actually the outfits are broken
i think the extended outfit framework replaces them
native garden
RIP costume framework
iron pilot
F
balmy thistle
mod is killing dlc
All dlc?
Well the costume dlcs suck anyways (except Yaso and Phan Thieves fits)
native garden
Best fanmade trailer ever https://youtu.be/NXMyaVZju0c?si=7TXTbl0cNVeuKfqh
hollow trail
@dreamy orchid https://twitter.com/Buddyshaped/status/1796522007854829673?t=aseq9W52MBXOQvRSEdEu1A&s=19
Twitter
not for now
I want to see if obscuring info delays meta hunting a bit
let people have theories about what's good
part of the fun
iron pilot
Speaking of which, you still have that fork of the fusion calc right
I dunno where it us
dreamy orchid
ah fair
hollow trail
i do yeah
Idk if it's 100% accurate but it's an html file
i can post rq
i think I didn't update it for the very last few changes
iron pilot
Technically all the knowledge I have of the bases are just
The dynes are p3 numbers
Junpei theurgia uses Electric Onslaught base
Severe single hit Phys are all 600
ashen pulsar
500
iron pilot
Are they?
native garden
And someone already beaten the final boss in master quest || https://youtu.be/i833DixKR4c?si=BOyQI7iku8HS23Ba|| that was fast
ashen pulsar
I wonder who that is
iron pilot
Wow I wonder....
iron pilot
Literally fucking who
dreamy orchid
kaze no koe hikari no tsubu madoromu kimi ni sosogu
ashen pulsar
real
iron pilot
I like having early access
native garden
I donāt. Iām still waiting for Star Citizen to come out
iron pilot
Bro you literally could have just played MQ here
native garden
I was busy working on my personal BGM modpack 
Iām thinking of replacing the final boss theme with the one from Like a Dragon 7
iron pilot
It's must be OG Music if it took that long
native garden
It's must be OG Music if it took that long
Wellā¦
inland crystal
somehow makoto dodged twice in a row during awakening fight, gonna do damageless mq now!!!
native garden
somehow makoto dodged twice in a row during awakening fight, gonna do damageless...
Hopium
iron pilot
That's intended, yes
The argument being they shoot suction cup arrows instead of actual arrows
iron pilot
No
Some other weapons got this treatment
Junpei's bat, as an another example
You can bonk people with the steel pipe now
celest kindle
how tf are you in arqa already <:KEKW:813634519152328704>
I was playing pre-release remember?
i'm just continuing from my save
hollow trail
ah
celest kindle
i don't think there's been any skill changes for my party so far so i oughta be safe right?
hollow trail
if you had the final pre-release you're good
well
skill card dupes was removed
but that's the only thing that affects you in your current progress
iron pilot
Jack Frost with Agi
celest kindle
I haven't used card dupes rn so like
hollow trail
jagi
celest kindle
Speaking of i just died
Enemies focusing on knocking you down before anything else is tuff
esp when i got dark weakness
hollow trail
uhhhhh
celest kindle
true!
celest kindle
I mean, it seems like the enemies that have laterns in them always go for protag first
then they go to somebody else
iron pilot
The regular enemies are mostly untouched except the 1/31 exclusives
hollow trail
thats probably a lantern thing
celest kindle
Damn
celest kindle
Yeah those guys are pretty tough at those levels with Mudo
Ironically, they only hit it twice so far
and that's in separate playthroughs
Idk maybe i have high lu
celest kindle
i kinda fucked up by fusing away my one garu persona for Omoikane
oh well at least i have sharp student and one other skill
iron pilot
Sounds like you have outdated mfs
You should have access to level 12 mfs at the very lesst
celest kindle
I just haven't fused that much
I'm tryna get all skills for the ones i have right now
So i can forget abt them when i fuse them away later
errant pumice
anyway read toy bow description
Toy Bow: āDeals 1 damage on hit since itās a toyā
celest kindle
Man
atomic swallowBOT
celest kindle
can't even win when i'm having a w
This also tends to happen whenever i run into a group of only Phantom Mages
Yk what imma just go to the lower floors for a bit before going there
native garden
The argument being they shoot suction cup arrows instead of actual arrows
By that logicā¦Yukariās arrows are made of rubber. Waitā¦rubber arrows, rubber bulletsā¦oh no
celest kindle
Yk what imma just go to the lower floors for a bit before going there
Actually kind of worked!!
But then i accidentally gave a Muscle Drink to Junpei instead of Knocked Down MC and the Phantom Mage went for me again
Sucks my one Kouha Persona has Dark Weakness
left spear
anyway read toy bow description
damn this is so sick
when i read that changelog i thought it was smth to do with the magic elem weapons, didnt remember if they were in reload or not
but this is actually so cool
celest kindle
They are but i think Meovv didn't do anything to them
celest kindle
But then i accidentally gave a Muscle Drink to Junpei instead of Knocked Down MC...
After carefully rethinking things
I have come to the conclusion that I'm stupid
I forgot Guard exists
iron pilot
Oh yeah I tried doing that thingy you tried involving lining up Mitsuru/Junpei/Akihiko and yeah
It still works
Mitsuru's damage output is by far the worst among the mages but it gets the job done decently
inland crystal
i dont think the 0xp if 4+ levels over shadows is working
still getting exp from level 2/3 shadows at levell 9
hollow trail
still getting exp from level 2/3 shadows at levell 9
who leveled up
Personas get full xp regardless
it's working for me so make sure you double check
check "xp until next" and see if it goes down after a low level fight
inland crystal
Personas get full xp regardless
o gotcha
i was expecting it to show up as 0 on the results screen lol
hollow trail
yeah persona xp has no scalers, so there's no way to mod it
hollow trail
i was expecting it to show up as 0 on the results screen lol
ah no
the xp you see in results is the base that's split among everyone else
and then it's divided
then the shares are multiplied based on level
so 1000 xp
everyone gets 250 cuz /4
then that 250 is multiplied based on lv
so 250*0=0
inland crystal
gotcha
iron pilot
Kenneth.mp4
rapid epoch
well that wont really matter until i unlock midsuru anyways so
im gonna have only 3 party members for a while + makoto
iron pilot
Akihiko won't be good until he got that Auto-Tarukaja
More or less
Then it just dogpiles from there
Single target boost and stuff should prove handy
His theurgia still sucks ass and can't crit though so Junpei is arguably preferable, still
That should change post oct 4
rapid epoch
will this work on a fresh ng+ cause i was planning on doing ng+ for my replay
or should i just do a new save
iron pilot
Yes although you keeping compendium makes early to mid game not feel that different apart from Akihiko not sucking ass
But if you pick Merciless ng+ then it's basically the same as a new save
rapid epoch
since i suck i played p3r on safety lets see what happens when i jump to merciless
iron pilot
Smells like a case study
Yeah uh, just ask here if you get stuck
Technically no one has ever done a full MQ run so atm we dunno if it's "beatable" in a single run lol
rapid epoch
i suck at persona games may not do merciless after all
celest kindle
Idk i think getting into it is not that hard
iron pilot
It could be a learning experience
hollow trail
merciless mq is definitely very stressful if you struggle with the normal vanilla game
dreamy orchid
if you know what buffs and debuffs are and how to hit weaknesses/crits you should be alright
hollow trail
NG+ would break it in half though
dreamy orchid
you'll get your ass kicked a bit but you gotta learn
hollow trail
I'm doing NG+ but Merciless (so everything is reset)
dreamy orchid
I am a surgeon
iron pilot
rapid epoch
i think i will start on hard
hollow trail
I'd start on Merciless regardless, because you can lower but you can't increase
Normal is probably very fair
celest kindle
I wonder how MQ Normal feels like
rapid epoch
i do not want to grind those again
celest kindle
Yeah it does
iron pilot
I think hard mode is like merciless before the enemy buff and player nerf
rapid epoch
hard it is
celest kindle
Merciless strips away everything except outfits
rapid epoch
idc about everything else i just dont want my social stats gone
celest kindle
Lmao
I've been trying to get the social stats back on my Merciless run
I'm on 5/29 iirc
I'm almost at Rank 3 on everything
iron pilot
I think if I can replicate my schedule last playthrough
I can get a good run in
I finished Aigis at 1/22
rapid epoch
i got mitsuru to rank 8
dreamy orchid
if you hack in max social stats tho then there's no reason not to just go to the arcade and work towards a max stat persona every night
celest kindle
Tbh i followed a guide for a little to get stats and some sls but then i missed a couple parts so i just went "fuck it, we ball" and then started to raise them on my own
Used the PC and a couple of the stores
rapid epoch
im just gonna do hard lol
celest kindle
Also Arcade
Tbh i don't get why there's some places that only rlly get you 1 sl point
hollow trail
oh i mean if you're doing NG+ with carryover MQ is gonna do literally nothing until like... Nyx
lol
you'll oneshot everything
rapid epoch
I HATE SOCIAL STATS
native garden
oh i mean if you're doing NG+ with carryover MQ is gonna do literally nothing un...
I still donāt get how NG+ vanilla saves would work with Master Quest
iron pilot
Because Merciless wipes everything except costumes
It's written in the mod desc that you either start fresh at the start though
Some things that can break a lot of things is registered dlc personas
native garden
Oh tactics is greatā¦if you want every fight to be decided on a coin flip
dreamy orchid
get good at the game
rapid epoch
Oh tactics is greatā¦if you want every fight to be decided on a coin flip
erm yeah unless you use it how its intended with full assault and heal/support
iron pilot
Nah you're better off not doing tactics
Technically it's not designed to be with tactics first, although the option's there
dreamy orchid
p3r's tactics are pretty limited even with meovv's overhaul simply due to the lack of more complicated options, but they can get the job done
not being allowed to guard is the main issue but you can always cheat by enabling direct commands for a second just to do that
iron pilot
I found the worst composition for Nyx
dreamy orchid
it involves koromaru i presume
iron pilot
And Ken
Basically have Ken but don't have any hard hitters in the party
It's...usable
Beatable, even
Just that you can't one shot phases at all
Ken doesn't exactly enable quick kills, his job is ensuring the guys that do don't die
So his advantage here isn't as pronounced
So basically
Phys junpei
Ken
Koro