worst case scenario I just include it and it's like oh go download this, extract the file, open it with R2
#P3P (PC) QOL Collection + recommended mod list
opaque umbra
would you be able to link the r2: link as an alternate file source download?
that could be as close as you get to having one-click if that works
woah
someone fixed femc
https://gamebanana.com/mods/440084
loud plover
would you be able to link the r2: link as an alternate file source download?
I think so? I guess that would work. where would I host it though 🤔
loud plover
like I could host it on drive but idk if that would give me a direct link. i suspect it wouldn't
loud plover
I've updated the pinned list of mods. I'm hoping to put something together for testing, but realistically I don't think this mod pack will be officially released until FEMC cutscenes is out. and with expanded sub menu in development, I am unsure if I should wait for that too or release without it.
I still need to mess around more with the R2 modpack feature. what I could potentially do is have multiple downloads for like essentials, cheats, extras. still thinking about it right now :p
if the mod pack feature doesn't work, then my fallback should still work okay, but hopefully it won't be necessary
light blaze
I've updated the pinned list of mods. I'm hoping to put something together for t...
the FEMC Cutscenes mod is gonna take a little while longer to come out due to the whole team using new FMV upscales
loud plover
yeah, am aware of that
tbh though like while it could be released rn I feel it should be released with FEMC cutscenes bc that's when it will be a truly complete modded experience
and it's just a modpack so it's not like people will be unable to play until then. most of the needed mods are already out
muted wolf
I though they did
muted wolf
I've updated the pinned list of mods. I'm hoping to put something together for t...
Didn't they release the cutscenes to YouTube or do you need permission from the creator to use it in the mod
lavish zealot
thats the final wip, its not finished
lavish zealot
someone fixed femc
https://gamebanana.com/mods/440084
junpei still has the black hat ...
unplayable
loud plover
I though they did
that was from like a month and a half ago 💀 but no it was not finished
even then I wouldn't want that in the modpack bc it's not really vanilla esque
tardy widget
surprised by the random mention of my thing tbh
though yeah, the big thing there is the actual dialogue scripts being changed alongside the music, so it wouldn't really be a fit for a pack of fixes/additions to the regular ol game afaik
I wouldn't mind setting aside a smaller BGME thing with a lot of the unique encounter music assigned, tho again that might not fit either I suppose
loud plover
it's been a sec. but it looks like fortunately, no mods I'm aware of have an order dependency. anyone wanna test this?
no rush on this one, P3P is not a priority for me (and there are two unreleased mods I want in this pack)
I also wanted to put Clean Bustups but that mod doesn't have update support so I can't put it in the R2 modpack 😔
proud roost
oh they need update support to be in the pack?
loud plover
yes
proud roost
how do you add an r2 pack again?
loud plover
you can just double click that file and open it with r2
loud plover
do you need to specify a program to open it with the first time?
or does R2 handle it automatically?
loud plover
oh cool
proud roost
this is fancy as hell wtf
loud plover
it is
proud roost
why do people not use this
loud plover
it has certain limitations
proud roost
yeah it's pulling the images from the gb page it seems lol
loud plover
can't specify mod order is the biggest one
proud roost
so that's why it needs update support
loud plover
as long as it has updates enabled, it seems it can be added
ESM is in there
I'm curious what will happen for people who don't have that mod already
proud roost
yeah a few mods i published i was lazy and never added auto update support 💀
proud roost
im surprised fortune teller is in there haha
loud plover
it's been a sec. but it looks like fortunately, no mods I'm aware of have an ord...
didn't see why not
proud roost
error after download finishes
loud plover
is this the part where I ping sewer?
wait
is this the same github error where you can't pull more than x times an hour?
loud plover
wow
L
here's an updated version when you have the chance. just removed some mods to maximize compatibility
proud roost
ok so its just 3 mods that dont have auto update support
loud plover
feel free to suggest additional mods to add to this list. note that I excluded any cheats and most mods that make the game noticeably easier
proud roost
weekend dorm improvements and improved rescuing have auto update support
not sure if you wanted to add those or not
proud roost
also maybe don't include femc fusion spells for a bit until i figure out how to fix the MC issue
for some ungodly reason, despite having everything in the right folder
it still modifies the mc fusion spells
so they're all purple too
proud roost
might have to ask moddaman how they did the same thing with the aoa cutins
they did some trickery to make it not load the texture from the MC and i don't know how
loud plover
colorful skills is also stuck due to the lack of spr merging
so i made the executive decision earlier to focus the pack on femc
but if things become more universal, that's cool
also, it seems I have control over mod readmes and images
too much effort but it's cool
abstract drum
they did some trickery to make it not load the texture from the MC and i don't k...
With how i ended up doing the colourful AOA mod I ended up editing the GMO's for the protagonists cut-ins so what I could do was just rename the texture used for the background in the GMO itself which would then determine which DDS texture the game tries to load in from there basically
so all you'd have to do is a very simple edit of the GMO just to change the relevant texture name of either MC or FeMC spells in the GMO and then replace it in some way (I assume the mdl2 method would work? never tried it though so idk)
magic geyser
I also wanted to put Clean Bustups but that mod doesn't have update support so I...
it doesnt?
i set it to though 
proud roost
With how i ended up doing the colourful AOA mod I ended up editing the GMO's for...
oh
thats so simple 😔
ive done that plenty of times
i thought you did some fancy repacking stuff with the EPL or something lol
ok well i guess that's the solution
ill have to include the MC gmo files
loud plover
i set it to though <a:modCheck:800112523818696724>
doesnt appear to have it 🤔
loud plover
😔
magic geyser
well ill fix that this weekend
loud plover
while you're at it, no author for this one and no thumbnail/desc for either (assuming that was intentional)
yeah again no rush, i'm waiting on two mods anyways
if you forget i'll just ping you when it becomes relevant lol
magic geyser
i kind of just really wanted those off my hard drive 💀
proud roost
mudkip doesn't wanna touch P3P with a 10 ft pole 😔
straight up don't think i can fix the femc fusion spell thing lol
loud plover
tbf I do want to clear some space off my drives too so i get it
proud roost
its not just loading the wrong texture, its just loading from the wrong gender folder
loud plover
let's see how big my persona modding folder is!
proud roost
for some reason it loads everything else from MRF, but the face which is in MR
loud plover
holy moly
loud plover
my folder has everything persona modding related for me lol
that includes game dumps, uncompressed soundtracks, a ton of tools, mods, my R2 folder, ....
loud plover
sheesh
I haven't dumped P3R yet, don't see the point when I can extract what I need with fmodel
proud roost
y’all condense every thing into one folder?
loud plover
nested folders but yes
proud roost
i’ll do that once i get a PC with more than 500 GB of storage
proud roost
knew a guy who had hella attached storage and was like
loud plover
if you can't tell, all of these drives except my boot drive and my external drive were taken from previous computers
proud roost
“oh yeah it gets weird after Z”
abstract drum
i could def some of that storage myself rn lmao
although I guess im not too far off myself ofkgklg
loud plover
i had the drives so it was like... why not install them
abstract drum
(ingore the Z drive i don't know why that's there it straight up just appeared one day and i can't even look at it)
proud roost
i have more storage in my consoles funnily enough
my wii u has 2 TB, my PS3 has 1 TB, and my PS2 has 1.5 TB
abstract drum
also damn ive got my fair share of persona mod related stuff (this does include my aemlus and R2 mod folders tho, prob a lot smaller if we don't count those)
loud plover
if i dont count my game dump or R2 folders...
opaque umbra
(ingore the Z drive i don't know why that's there it straight up just appeared o...
you can probably remove the drive letter assignment in disk management
sometimes windows like to shit itself and show its protected/hidden boot shit to the user
happened to me before
proud roost
yeah again no rush, i'm waiting on two mods anyways
what other mod besides ESM are you waiting on lol
loud plover
femc cutscenes
proud roost
oh true
loud plover
at the minimum, ESM
proud roost
i should definitely rewrite fortune teller to be more interesting
loud plover
speaking of that I realize i have a portion of that to work on
but i dont feel like it rn lol
proud roost
i actually like how natural the writing you did for traesto was so i’ll try to mimic that
proud roost
the fuuka messages and code lol
proud roost
you even went above and beyond and made a more enthusiastic femc selection message too
like gaw damn
abstract drum
you can probably remove the drive letter assignment in disk management
nope 😭
doesn't even show up right in diskmgmt and even then the only one it could be won't let me remove it :'3
proud roost
crazy
loud plover
I'll pass it by a few of my friends to see if they like the way I wrote them or not. it's only a bit of dialogue but yk i gotta be as accurate as possible lol
proud roost
i really oughta go in and touch up a bunch of mods thinking about it now
like improved rescuing could use some better dialogue
crane game redux i could probably use a while loop once i understand how those work
fortune teller is boring and needs the “tune the tv for more detail” option like the P4G mod
loud plover
@proud roost have you had the chance to test the mod pack download again?
loud plover
sounds good. hopefully it works this time
proud roost
testing now
damn do we really need sharp pixel backgrounds 😔
thats a 4 GB mod
also guaranteed item drops being included when we don't want cheaty mods feels weird
same error as before @loud plover
ebon shore
damn do we really need sharp pixel backgrounds 😔
I agree, something that big shouldn't be forced on a user and it's very much personal preference whether they even want that. I'd have it listed separately as a recomendation or something like that instead
loud plover
is this the part where i tag sewer 🤔
loud plover
I agree, something that big shouldn't be forced on a user and it's very much per...
true but at the same time, the AI upscaling is genuinely horrid and it's one of the most complained about aspects of the game anyways
I could remove it for size reasons though and list some options
quick juniper
yall should add skill fusion spells into this 
(unless its too exploitable bcs of armageddon and thunder call)
ebon shore
Aren't there two different versions of that mod though? If there are it seems like the kind of thing where a user should compare and choose yourself
quick juniper
if youre talking about the fusion spells, the other one is actually just cosmetic 😭
theyre fully compatible
ebon shore
Sorry, I was talking about the pixelated backgrounds
Should've replied to that message
quick juniper
aaaaaaahh i see i see
proud roost
high quality music should definitely be added
i always use that mod
has anyone actually tested remastered bgm and seen if it’s better?
the mod description sounded kinda pretentious so i skipped over it
loud plover
ok, here, i'll remove pixelated bgs since it's so large
the rest of the mods should be pretty small right?
if this doesnt work I guess I'll tag sewer and see if he can provide some help
proud roost
also i'm 100% down to modify any of my existing mods to fit better into the pack if need be
like changing the drops for crane game redux back to the normal ones shouldn't be too hard
loud plover
that would be nice
maybe just have a config option in R2 and have it set to have the boring drops by default? idk
proud roost
yeah i could probably do that
proud roost
if this doesnt work I guess I'll tag sewer and see if he can provide some help
even bigger error
seems like on every mod now
loud plover
the heck
@unborn stag hiiii what does this error mean with R2 modpacks? (yes, I'm trying them out)
unborn stag
Oh god
I'm not sure for the exceptions at the top
But for the ones at the bottom, you most likely got rate limited by GitHub
And for one of them, GameBanana timed out
The pack system has never been used in the 2 years it's been implemented. It was dead on arrival because GameBanana didn't want me uploading .r2pack files, even though they're just zips.
And nobody used it :v
It uses update system under the hood, so it should work if updates work, generally. Things get tricky though if a file is e.g. only on GitHub, and you get rate limited.
loud plover
damn. i actually thought it looked pretty cool 😔
well, I have the secondary option of having sample/dummy packages, but it's not exactly ideal
unborn stag
The bottom two probably a flaw in the code, unless GameBanana version is out of date, and thus GitHub was picked
And GitHub happened to rate limit you
ebon shore
Are the downloads done one at a time or in parallel?
I'm just wondering if there'd be a way to make it more reliable. If it were parallel maybe that's making gb angry because of the number of requests
unborn stag
I have no idea what the 'z' is invalid end of number though is.
unborn stag
Are the downloads done one at a time or in parallel?
IIRC serially, non parallel.
ebon shore
Ah ok
unborn stag
I have no idea what the 'z' is invalid end of number though is.
I checked the JSON config in download on my phone and nothing looks off
ebon shore
Woah so many dots for all of the preview images lol
Well the same thing happened to me, I'll see if I can debug it
unborn stag
I think it's something returned from API based on stack trace.
ebon shore
The ui for installing mod packs is pretty cool btw, I think this would be a nice way of doing things if it worked
unborn stag
This thing existed for 2 years btw
Completely unused :v
I don't see why it'd be borked though, runs on update system.
Should have retry logic though, in case download fails first time.
GameBanana can be unreliable and GitHub can have rate limits.
ebon shore
I did something similar with Aemulus back in the day. When I added loadouts I made it so you could import someone else's loadout and it would automatically download all of the mods, I was very proud of it at the time but I don't think it's ever been used... (And it'll definitely never be used now)
It sucks when you work on features that never get used
unborn stag
yup
To be honest, the pack system is very limited, it's a glorified wizard around using the update system for mod downloads.
I made the thing limited to see if it would catch on, it didn't.
So was left as first released, haha.
loud plover
The ui for installing mod packs is pretty cool btw, I think this would be a nice...
it is a very cool UI
should I continue trying the pack option or should I abandon it?
ebon shore
Don't abandon it yet, I'll see if I can fix this
loud plover
alright
ebon shore
If it works I think it'd be a good option
loud plover
yeah
unborn stag
I'd suggest adding some code to retry if it fails.
unborn stag
In case the GameBanana servers give you a 50X error back
loud plover
or are you looking at the r2 code itself
unborn stag
Which can randomly happen when downloading stuff sometimes
ebon shore
I'm looking at r2
loud plover
ic ic
is there any way to get 1-click working by hosting externally, or would this just be a case of having users download and then double click the file to run it?
unborn stag
The pack system has never been used in the 2 years it's been implemented. It was...
is there any way to get 1-click working by hosting externally,
That's the problem
User would have to rename .zip to .r2pack
Unless you want to upload to some other place, and put a r2pack: prefix to the link
(I think I made the prefix that)
In retrospect, we could maybe rename the config file from Config.json to PackConfig.json.
loud plover
yeah i'm just curious if it's possible rly. although that is also inconvenient on my end lol
unborn stag
Upload as zip to GameBanana and ask them to add URL handlers to these.
loud plover
all this for P3P lol
although this would be useful for the other persona games. I bet CEP could benefit from this if the modpack feature had a bit more added to it
unborn stag
I'm not really interested myself, because any effort I put here takes away from R3, which will take years.
When am not working on R3 spec, I've also started learning a new keyboard and keyboard layout
yesterday...
To minimize RSI and maximize typing speed. I don't type fast enough, only like 70wpm. My technique isn't very good, it's 4 fingers flying all over the keyboard basically.
loud plover
fancy ass layout
unborn stag
I know that in R3, I'd like to make everything a package at least though
Including user profiles (all mod configs, etc.)
So you can just export your stuff, import elsewhere and you get pretty much everything back
loud plover
that would be cool
unborn stag
Also stuff like per machine configs
If you set your resolution to X on one PC, you might not want it as X on another
So many misc ideas piled up over the years 😅
hence the rebuild
loud plover
yup understandable
unborn stag
also, most importantly, file emulators being ticking time bombs
loud plover
if you're writing down ideas I think a couple things I can think of off the top of my head are:
- option to sort mod list
- highlight the launch app button somehow
- have more space for mod descriptions, mod authors so we can add more stuff
unborn stag
I plan to have mods ship complete metadata as part of their packages, i.e. all screenshots, descriptions as part of the mod package itself. Same as you'd see on a mod site.
Hopefully one day, you'll be able to auto upload stuff from the launcher.
You could show individual mod details in a sidepanel, thus gaining you more space.
So the current short description you see would be a 'summary', and if you pop out the panel, you'd see the full thing.
loud plover
that would be cool
that's one thing I liked about Aemulus, is just the extra space it had for mod descs/authors
unborn stag
Also I'll be able to make the window a bit bigger by default, which is nice.
The assumption will be that deck's 1280×800 is the minimum usable res
Hopefully that's good enough
I've been working on this stuff restlessly for about 8 months now, in any case.
Building piece by piece.
ebon shore
Is there a way to open the modpack other than double clicking it? It seems to be opening it in my normal reloaded instance rather than the one I'm debugging
unborn stag
Check this code https://github.com/Reloaded-Project/Reloaded-II/blob/0a0facd460077a1d251f6e66df07109dc5b88a93/source/Reloaded.Mod.Launcher.Lib/Setup.cs#L244
Constants.ParameterR2Pack would have the CLI flag, in the tagged line
loud plover
Is there a way to open the modpack other than double clicking it? It seems to be...
i was wondering about that. i havent noticed any way to load the mod pack normally
unborn stag
Though not sure why it didn't open in your debugged one, it should update on every boot.
It's Reloaded-II.exe --r2pack LOCATION_OF_PACK based on that line of code
unborn stag
Start debugging with the CLI parameter in your IDE, probably easier
ebon shore
Oh right
I see what you mean, yeah I'll do that
Yeah that worked, I misunderstood what you meant before
That's fun, I get completely different errors
unborn stag
😅
ebon shore
I'm having so much trouble debugging this because it's happening inside of Sewer56.Update. I tried removing the Nuget package reference and directly adding the project but then I get a billion errors that I can't fix 😔
unborn stag
MSBuild in VS a bit messy, since you need to add every project dependency (recursively) to the solution
Unfortunately 😅
ebon shore
Is there any better way or do I just need to keep fighting this thing?
unborn stag
Will probably need to add projects one by one.
Unfortunately .snupkg didn't exist when I made the library, so no symbols for NuGet release build
ebon shore
😔
I've finally done it 
I didn't notice Reloaded.Mod.Loader.Update.Packaging also depended on Sewer56.Update before so I wasn't changing the package reference in it, that's why everything exploded 
It's downloading the 7z and trying to parse that as the metadata file instead of the json 🥴
I don't understand your logic for gamebanana update resolving at all (presumably something is going wrong). When searching for the metadata it's looking for any file that starts with an empty string so it just always returns the first file which happens to be the 7z
If this is the same logic used by normal updates I don't understand how they could ever work...
Ah, the ComonResolverSettings passed into the GameBananaUpdateResolver is meant to contain what the expected metadata file is like "BGME.Framework.API.ReleaseMetadata.json" but instead it's empty
The ReloadedPackItems passed to it are all missing their ReleaseMetadataFileName
The problem is when the r2pack is created, for some reason all of the metadata file names in the config are blank
I've added an error for this, now just to work out why it's actually happening...
The problem is when you load an existing pack every mod loses its ReleaseMetadataFileName
It was just this one line that was missing 🫠
I've made a pr with the fix
https://github.com/Reloaded-Project/Reloaded-II/pull/370/files
Once it's updated you'll need to go through and remove every mod that was in the pack and add them back to it. I probably could've written something to just make it work but you're literally the only person who will ever have this problem so it wasn't worth it
ebon shore
Nice
unborn stag
Once it's updated you'll need to go through and remove every mod that was in the...
You could probably pop open Config.json in the .r2pack
And re add them in there, too
That's another way
ebon shore
I feel like that's probably more effort
unborn stag
Possibly, depends if the descriptions etc. were tampered with
ebon shore
Oh yeah, I don't think they were but ig brawler can work it out when they see this
loud plover
yeah no worries, I won't be losing a lot of time anyways
I didn't put too much time into the mod pack file to begin with in case something like this happened lol
thanks all, appreciate it 
proud roost
@loud plover any other mods need to be modified?
im in a working mood, not eepy anymore
light blaze
what was up with the HD SFX mod? I’ll see if there’s a way to fix all of the sfx maybe today or tmrw
proud roost
pretty sure some audio was super quiet according to @gaunt hamlet
they mentioned them having issues
loud plover
@proud roost can you test this?
I'm also curious if it will have the mods enabled by default or not
loud plover
oof!
@ebon shore this one I sent was a brand new pack from the latest update of R2, still seems to have the same issue
ebon shore
That's a different issue
loud plover
oh is it?
ebon shore
Before it was trying to parse the 7z is a config metadata file, this is it just failing to download anything
proud roost
oh wait was there an R2 update 💀
loud plover
ahhh
ebon shore
Yes but it wouldn't matter, it only affected creating packs
loud plover
is this a case of, wait and try again? or something else?
ebon shore
I think it might just be a problem with gamebanana, idk if it's something we can fix
It's something that I'll just get sometimes when I update mods normally
It might just be a case where you need to try again...
loud plover
wanna try running it again then
proud roost
lemme finish testing my mod changes real quick
definitely something to do with gamebanana
loud plover
yeahhhhhh i was just trying to update my mods
~~and this one crashes R2 afterwards 😭 ~~
proud roost
lol that was the error i was getting that i couldn't get a screenshot of
quick juniper
i love gamebanana servers
unborn stag
yeahhhhhh i was just trying to update my mods
502 means GameBanana didn't respond
The fact I don't have a retry policy (that I remember anyway) is more of a flaw on my side though
It's very bold and primitive to think something remote will just work
That goes for any server
loud plover
it would be nice if it didn't crash the mod loader either
it's just failing to connect, don't see why it needs to crash haha
unborn stag
Cause I didn't write code to handle the error 😅
loud plover
lmao
yeah yesterday a bunch of mods had updates on GB but they kept crashing R2 bc I kept getting 502s 😔
not even related to this mod pack
I ended up just manually downloading all the updates lol
crisp furnace
I finally started looking into this. Some of the sounds in init.bin are just weird and will sound awful no matter what. Now that COMSE and BSE replacement is possible, these sounds can finally be replaced with higher quality versions. I only replaced the ticking and clock shatter sfx in this example using P3P PC's own sound files, but its still a large improvement over what we had previously.
gaunt hamlet
I was thinking about this earlier today
loud plover
I forgot about making this into a dedicated modpack. I ended up making this a simple list a few weeks ago (at least for now) https://docs.google.com/document/d/162K0KRhPg8Gu2D1-LiXmF_YNepGA5ecLx87z4izdJRw/view
There's a few problems though.
- This is a less publicly visible list right now as it's locked to a Google doc in two discord servers
- users must manually download and set up the mods
- many of these mods are currently unavailable for download at this time
gaunt hamlet
Hey awhile back I did some remasters of some prerendered backgrounds that use stills from the anime cutscenes and was wondering if they could be used?
I know a lot of people will prob be using the cutscenes mods but I thought I'd just throw it out there
loud plover
definitely feel free to throw them in there. you're right about the cutscenes bit lol but anyone who isn't for whatever reason should get these too
loud plover
P3P (PC) QOL Collection + recommended mod list
loud plover
ooooo yeah good call
of course i could have also just switched the backgrounds lmaoooo
but
your solution is better anyways
gaunt hamlet
So I want to talk a bit about the sound effects that are currently in the mod. I promise I’m not trying to put down any of the hard work anyone did but considering how P3P’s and P3FES sounds and voice lines are mixed different (and the only way to really fix that would be to manually adjust every sound effect) would it be OK if we removed them and replace them with my sound effects I did for my project? I understand if you disagree.
loud plover
I'm not opposed to it I don't think. I guess I should ask, what are the differences?
gaunt hamlet
With my sounds, besides most of them being from the original sound libraries, I went in to make sure that the volume matched the ones heard ingame. Unlike the current one which is just a port of the one from the PS2 version.
So yeah
loud plover
alright!
again, not opposed to it, go ahead
I would probably update the description lol
gaunt hamlet
I’ll do that when I upload it lol
gaunt hamlet
I finally started looking into this. Some of the sounds in init.bin are just wei...
Hey when you get a minute you think you might be able to post the file since I like to test it out along with a few others
loud plover
i would imagine that your work will largely alleviate many of these issues (i hope)
crisp furnace
might be better to start from scratch rather than use what I have since I was having issues with the process
I'm inexperienced when it comes to this and I couldn't get HCA working at all lol
loud plover
i realized that i never actually released a single update to QOL collection ever since it was initially dropped 💀
crisp furnace
also pretty sure I already deleted it since it was a few days ago and needed some free space lol
loud plover
i guess qol collection was already in a mostly feature complete state anyways
@gaunt hamlet I'm the one who wrote the config btw. if you need something changed up or a new config option added, etc, let me know and I'll do what I can. (not expecting anything to come up but you are free to ask if something does)
gaunt hamlet
<@345057462556164097> I'm the one who wrote the config btw. if you need somethin...
Ah no worries harper and will do
I mostly wanted to look into the audio mixing with the current update
with the battle menus
loud plover
yeah that's a good call
the original mod was basically just... merging those 3 separate mods into one so that they'd actually work lol
I meant to continue my work on the localization fixes part of it but alas, I dropped P3P
(I'll get back to it later)
gaunt hamlet
There was some problems with the audio mixing in the pack
gaunt hamlet
Nvm
loud plover
iirc the sounds were kinda mixed, I think there was talk about some audio levels being a little funky?
they were kinda pulled from various sources and I'm not sure if anyone did an extensive sound leveling job
gaunt hamlet
yeah
here's the one heard in the pack
here's a better video of the wip mixing
also taking the opportunity to fix some sound that were way too loud in the base game
gaunt hamlet
Wait wrong file
loud plover
sounds way better haha
gaunt hamlet
Thank you
By the way does anyone know where this sound is? I can’t seem to find it in the init. Or I’m stupid
magic geyser
fields have specific sounds that can play, iirc?
loud plover
does the log print anything or no?
I would assume you've already tried that but it can't hurt to ask lol
gaunt hamlet
does the log print anything or no?
I keep forgetting that exists
I’ll do it tomorrow
loud plover
oh lmao, well hopefully that helps you find it
although it doesn't print everything so gl
I don't feel like I ever heard that sound browsing through P3P SFX but I wasn't looking too hard (and certainly not for that one) and that was a while ago
gaunt hamlet
Damn
gaunt hamlet
oh lmao, well hopefully that helps you find it
Thanks, but yeah… right now I want to focus on seeing if it’s possible to knock out the field sound effects before doing the audio editing for the battle sounds
To play at a higher quality
abstract drum
By the way does anyone know where this sound is? I can’t seem to find it in the ...
Sounds like it's init.bin\sound\se\comse.pak\0300.vag to me
(converted to wav so it's easier to listen and compare on discord)
ebon shore
By the way does anyone know where this sound is? I can’t seem to find it in the ...
moddaman already figured out what it is it seems but fwiw this is almost certainly called in flowscript when you interact with the stairs to move field.
i.e. there'd be something like (this is pseudocode)
PLAY_SOUND( footstepSoundId );
CALL_FIELD( whateverTheSecondFloorIdIs );
Presumably you could somehow map the id in that PLAY_SOUND (or whatever it's actually been labeled as) call to an actual sound file
abstract drum
moddaman already figured out what it is it seems but fwiw this is almost certain...
Expanding on this, the sound playing function in this case would be FUNCTION_001E (this plays the footstep sound effect before transitioning you to the second floor field)
Did some quick testing with the function too and it seems to be for playing sounds from the comse.pak file, with the two arguments being used to determine which file plays (essentially FUNCTION_001E(X, Y) loads comse.pak\XXYY.vag, in this case FUNCTION_001E(3, 0) plays comse.pak\0300.vag)
My guess is that first number is used to denote the "type" or "category" of the sound (in this case 3 = travel/transition sounds, 4 seems to be related to 3d field/tartarus sounds like starting battles or opening chests, etc.) and then second number is just an index/number value for in that category, basically just an organizational thing
gaunt hamlet
Are some there some sounds that can't be replaced? Or is it that I'm doing something wrong?
gaunt hamlet
Because a lot of the times the game just crashes when the sounds are about to be played even when the sound it as the same Kz
crisp furnace
I forgot what sounds they were but the dark hour transition sounds (the clock ticking and shatter) are very crunchy in p3p, the current version of the modpack doesn't seem to fix it
oh wait I posted about it right lol
oops 💀
kind of forgor
loud plover
Are some there some sounds that can't be replaced? Or is it that I'm doing somet...
hard to say without more detail
that is a bit odd though
gaunt hamlet
is it because of the software I'm using?
loud plover
hard to say without more detail bc idk what you're doing
gaunt hamlet
I'm converting higher quality sounds at 41kz or 48kz from wav files into vag with mfaudiov11 and then importing them to the init.bin file
loud plover
oh hmmm i havent messed with vags much...
what a silly name
oh and amicitia doesnt even have documentation on it 💀
@magic geyser didnt you use some sort of tool for vag audio when you made naoto p3p? do you remember what that is?
gaunt hamlet
Wait what?
loud plover
i kinda forgot that ryo was a thing for p3p (sorry rena)
qol collection was made before rena updated bgme/ryo for the other persona games
magic geyser
yeah
loud plover
the key point is that you can use hca instead of vag
gaunt hamlet
!!!!!
magic geyser
by rena, i believe
loud plover
can you just swap in an hca in place of where a vag would go then?
whole tusk
magic geyser
gaunt hamlet
I don't know crap about coding sadly
magic geyser
you dont need too know any coding here
loud plover
idk if it requires any lol
loud plover
ohhhhhhh
magic geyser
in this case its init.bin/sound/se/comse.pak/0000.vag/(hca for the vag goes here)
gaunt hamlet
!!!!!
loud plover
i guess the whole reason for QOL collection existing is now gone if this works lol
oh well
gaunt hamlet
i guess the whole reason for QOL collection existing is now gone if this works l...
How so?
loud plover
the big reason for the mod existing was to combine the 3 mods with manual merging bc hd sfx broke if pak merging was used for init
now i wanna test this
do you know if the shadow defeat noise is a vag?
sorry i havent modded p3p in a sec lol
gaunt hamlet
K
loud plover
actually
loud plover
do you have the source file?
loud plover
is the current one the p4g one?
gaunt hamlet
I think so
loud plover
and do you know which file it is lol
gaunt hamlet
Let me just post it for you lol
loud plover
thanks lol
gaunt hamlet
loud plover
ty
gaunt hamlet
no worries
native geyser
oh yeah i never did test it out LMAO
loud plover
SORRY IM TESTING IT NOW
loud plover
ty
actually rena while you're here
can file.ryo be renamed to anything or does the path have to be named exactly like this?
native geyser
i'll have to answer that later 
native geyser
(i was repeating you saying you'd test it later then not doing it 😭 )
it has to be file.ryo
native geyser
engineers' jokes are truly in a class of their own
loud plover
do wavs actually work
native geyser
not in ryo
loud plover
ok, hca it is
loud plover
oh lol
magic geyser
because i assume gabi does not have every file as vag only
loud plover
that's the hope or else we have a lot of converting to do
native geyser
what format is vag anyway?
gaunt hamlet
because i assume gabi does not have every file as vag only
Uhhhhh
I only extracted them from the init.bin
loud plover
what format is vag anyway?
some weird psp audio thing
gaunt hamlet
sorry
magic geyser
what format is vag anyway?
its a weird ass file format that doubles as a container and actual audio format
shits weird
magic geyser
I only extracted them from the init.bin
oh i thought you said you were ripping stuff right from sound libraries and converting oops
native geyser
is it the atrac9 stuff?
magic geyser
i think p3p uses it to hold both jp and en voices
they made their own fucking newer version of vag
loud plover
😭
magic geyser
is it the atrac9 stuff?
im not too sure but i think its related?
native geyser
vgaudio supports decoding that, if it's a bunch files i can try testing yona for batch encoding it
magic geyser
vgaudio doesnt support the newer vags they use in model pacs unfortunutely
native geyser
🦐 oh well
magic geyser
im assuming they did same thing they did for gmos
loud plover
we tried testing hd sfx with pio's fes models and for some reason they sounded like shit
magic geyser
they made their own hand made rendering/reader for these filetypes to work on pc
yeah thats why i dont use pac merging on like anything for p3p 💀
loud plover
p3p moment
native geyser
you play p3p?
magic geyser
in moments of weakness
loud plover
you play p3p?
i would never
magic geyser
i might play p3p more if costume framework existed 
loud plover
wasnt swine already working on one prior
native geyser
sniwe has too many projects...
loud plover
very true
unfortunately theyre like one of three people with experience doing code mods lol
magic geyser
i cant really say shit lmao i have a bunch of custom model tools i keep hardcoding paths into making me not wanna release 💀
loud plover
does this look right?
magic geyser
yeah
loud plover
it doesnt sound any better than stock as far as i can tell 😔
loud plover
oh no definitely not lol
native geyser
to be sure, make sure ryo debug logs says it's redirected
loud plover
lmao p3p was really weird about it bc using merging for init.bin audio just made it sound the same as stock
hang on
native geyser
or bgme, i think i added it as part of that lol
loud plover
does ryo need to be explicitly enabled or only bgme?
native geyser
bgme depends on it so it should enable automatically
loud plover
hmmm im not sure if its actually being redirected
looks like not though
test mod has a dependency on bgme and persona essentials, does it need a dependency on ryo?
native geyser
you'd didnt forget to add a ryo dependency?
loud plover
okay cool hahaha
native geyser
LOL
native geyser
it's a bit opaque with bgme being the mod that really adds that functionality but still needing ryo separately
loud plover
in a sec
gaunt hamlet
k
loud plover
volume warning
well its not much louder lol but
cant believe rena solved p3p audio
this is crazy
gaunt hamlet
Hell yeah!!!
loud plover
and only now do i find this out lmao
abstract drum
well its not much louder lol but
i mean with my headphones sitting on my desk a good few inches from me the sound went from a little audible to VERY MUCH audible when the shadow died sooooo kinda louder i think maybe lol
loud plover
its not like crazy loud lol
just kinda louder
seems like ryo handles sound independently of the ingame audio setting though
native geyser
the sound system they use for p3p is super basic. there's no audio categories, they set the volume on the audio player
loud plover
is the volume supposed to be independent of the ingame setting?
native geyser
yeah, it's different player than normal sfx (that one expects the vag audio)
loud plover
gotcha
native geyser
the game doesn't set volume on it from config
loud plover
sounds like we should probably include a config file with every sound
is there any documentation for how the config files work?
gaunt hamlet
I am dumb so, the volume stays the same even if you turn down the sound effects in the game menus?
loud plover
yeah
gaunt hamlet
@native geyser
loud plover
but i think they already have...
gaunt hamlet
If it is then this is amazing
loud plover
yeah, that's big
loud plover
there probably is haha
rena is it safe to assume you aren't really interested haha
either way unless I've done something off with this config file, doesnt seem like i can change the volume thru a config file 🤔
im gonna go back to working on p4fr for now but i feel like we're really close here
gaunt hamlet
Good luck
native geyser
rena is it safe to assume you aren't really interested haha
shouldn't be that difficult
loud plover
<:femmcbean:967512336594247700> shouldn't be that difficult
it'd be cool 👀
loud plover
Also I lied I do have every battle sound
makes it easier then, we can just use yona to bulk process these
magic geyser
monke2 is easier to bulk process just folders of wavs like these iirc
yona doesnt have an option to just convert a whole folder of wavs to hca
native geyser
misinfo 
native geyser
forgiven
loud plover
i also need to update randomized battle themes with p3f music now that that restriction is gone lol
but i kinda feel like everyone has gotten used to p3r music at this point
oh but i guess bgme is still not working rn so it's pointless huh
native geyser
imagine not using the best mod in every persona game smh
randomized battle themes my beloved
loud plover
there isnt a catboy junpei mod for p3r yet idt
magic geyser
i use some of your hcas in this 💀
i dont like using battle themes because i want literally every battle song replaced except special ones with their own music lmao
magic geyser
there isnt a catboy junpei mod for p3r yet idt
This wouldn't be hard to do model wise.......
loud plover
couldnt you use the battle themes framework tho
native geyser
only normal battles
loud plover
oh you mean every theme huh
magic geyser
yeah
loud plover
fair lol
magic geyser
i was pulling a funny with my bgme
i posted what i replace here 😭
magic geyser
ryo 🔛 🔝
loud plover
This wouldn't be hard to do model wise.......
maybe I'll throw together some portraits later if you actually decide to do that
maybe
magic geyser
i could do it in like
actually 5 minutes
and 4 of them would be ue cooking the files
its a singular model replacement
loud plover
bet
magic geyser
well 2, i forgor about tophat
loud plover
i guess if you do that, send me some pics for reference lol but i would probably just use the morgana ear texture for simplicity in the bustups cuzzzz im not an artist lol (I did the same with dojima)
loud plover
maybe, depends what ears he's getting in p3r lol
tardy widget
volume warning
been gone for a while but glad to hear about a a breakthrough
think I still have my folder of P3P battle character pacs with the voice clips swapped if that helps
gaunt hamlet
I think the main thing they like to do is see if it's possible to be able to adjust the volume for the SFX in game
since currently the only way you can do it is through Reloaded II
tardy widget
I see I see
gaunt hamlet
ignore this
opaque umbra
i can’t
native geyser
skill issue
opaque umbra
gaunt hamlet
I don't feel 100% confident in updating the QOL Pack until I am able to fix every sound issues but I guess you can consider this a porotype of what's to come in the QOL collection
loud plover
@native geyser have you had time to look at linking the Ryo SFX to the in-game volume config?
also nice new name lol
gaunt hamlet
New pre-rendered backgrounds for anime cutscenes have been added!
gaunt hamlet
<@726235769299009667> have you had time to look at linking the Ryo SFX to the in...
Once that's sorted I got the sounds for ya
green island
You know, someone tried
loud plover
just play episode aigis fes or reload
that aside, that's kinda very outside the scope of this mod
muted wolf
You know, someone tried
But think about this
We have the Abyss of Time hub area in P3P
A Metis mod
opaque umbra
you do realize there's an assload of stuff you'd have to reverse engineer into the game right
magic geyser
itd be quite trivial to do just the cutscenes, though
crisp furnace
I've been doing my own audio stuff in the background, almost completely unaware that progress was being made here as well lol
Is it possible to replace the audio in umd1\data\sound\voice\EN with HCAs like you can for the audio in init.bin? I feel like that could be a possible solution to some cutscenes having very crusty audio, mainly the protagonist awakening scene.
loud plover
probably yeah. that is a good point actually
(that being said I think most people would and should be using the cutscenes mod anyways lol)
crisp furnace
yeah I was about to say
most people are probably just using that now
I think it affects the voice clips during the final boss too? I need to double check that one though
loud plover
we just can't really proceed with a release bc ryo has no control over playback volume rn
light blaze
What if
my friend @/rabbitgirlkris was working on a concept for that but it was private
loud plover
that's oomf 😭 😭
quick juniper
🥺
gaunt hamlet
You know, someone tried
Who was it?
loud plover
Kris how far did you get with the answer in portable anyways?
tbh though especially for something with the scale of the answer (modding wise) I feel like I would be satisfied with mandatory battles only for the most part
the rest of the events can be done via flowscript....
abstract drum
Pull a KH 358/recoded HD and make the entirety of it just a bunch of cutscenes and text descriptions of gameplay 
/j
magic geyser
make the battles in text
You will fight ||akihiko and koro||
and you just choose, win or lose
gaunt hamlet
Speaking of The Answer in Portable. A while back I did sentence mixing lines for Kotone in The Answer for the FeMC FES mod.
loud plover
mandatory battles could be done
it's the dungeon crawling that would be pretty hard, wouldn't it?
and I also kinda wonder how something like this would even be loaded in the first place
the more I think about it the more I realize that it would still be a very watered down experience lol
magic geyser
im more inclined to say the dungeon crawling will never happen
loud plover
right
magic geyser
you could feasibly, recreate the important bits of the answer in p3p though
loud plover
overall even a mandatory battles only episode aigis would be pretty watered down
but I guess better than nothing + you'd be able to have an interpretation of Kotone the answer
although I feel like reload is kinda the way to go with that anyways
abstract drum
the more I think about it the more I realize that it would still be a very water...
Really i feel like the only realistic option would be to just overwrite whatever relevant the journey files with the answer's (or recreations as needed) otherwise you'd either replace MC or FeMC with the answer campaign or have to somehow implement the ability to support 4 entire technically seperated campaigns (Journey MC, Journey FeMC, Answer MC, Answer FeMC) which uhhhh don't think that'd be worth it lmao
and yeah realistically at this point for a femc version of the answer just expanding the femc project to add support for that would be the better way to go lol
loud plover
if you overwrite the journey then I feel like stuff like leveling would still be a bit difficult and you'd have like no customization lol
it's fun to think about though and p3p is way easier to do custom events with than p3k
abstract drum
so 
...
loud plover
I'll probably start learning how to mod reload at some point I wanna contribute to the femc project bc that's the only thing that interests me frankly 💀
abstract drum
p3p kinda goated for being the EASIEST to make custom events for bc its just flowscript which is so Nice and Easy to work with compared to all the other formats lmfao
loud plover
yes for sure
how I wish we just had like... whatever internal tools ATLUS has for event editing
abstract drum
how I wish we just had like... whatever internal tools ATLUS has for event editi...
realllll... maybe one day i will be able to use their "pmvtool" and if nothing else have an easier time mapping out PMD's for LEET lol 😔
assuming that the pmvtool folder in digital devil sagas event folder is some test/generic output from said tool and not just called that for no reason lol
gaunt hamlet
or if Atlus gets hacked
magic geyser
atlus leak but its only old ass tools and 0 employee info would be kinda goated....
abstract drum
P3F full source leak wen
gaunt hamlet
Maybe as well we can get the uncompressed recordings of P3P?
For the English dub
I KNOW THEY HAVE THEM
native geyser
atlus leak but its only old ass tools and 0 employee info would be kinda goated....
lets crowdfund some japanese lessons for sniwe and getem hired at atlus w
abstract drum
tbh of all the things you could criticize atlus for they seem pretty decent at preserving their assets at the end of the day
like yeah they do stuff like waifu2x the shit out of p3p but then they also evidently still had original/high quality source assets for the port devs to use considering all the persona art and bustups were actually crisp and hd (not to mention that based on some of the debug strings in the executables for the ports they also do indeed have the source code)
magic geyser
tbh of all the things you could criticize atlus for they seem pretty decent at preserving their assets at the end of the day
erm, but twitter said they lost the entirety of p3f and the p3f code is very bad?
abstract drum
oh shit your right i forgor i hope the atlus hq and all of the employees suddenly disappear leaving behind a total void where they used to be one day as punishment for their existence
gaunt hamlet
tbh of all the things you could criticize atlus for they *seem* pretty decent at...
Plus, we got higher quality voices for Catherine
Also could we get the uncropped versions of P3 and FES cutscenes while the hacker is at it?
abstract drum
uncropped everything really lol
gaunt hamlet
you mean the final stage of composting?
abstract drum
i was more so referring to the bustup art because i am very confident that atleast most p3 bustups are full body drawings that're just cropped considering how certain places like the pause menu have full body silouhettes that are exactly the same shape as the bustups and if the silouhette exists then itd follow that the full art would exist too
i mean i could be 100% wrong but if im not i think it would be Very Cool to see that full art if it does in fact exist
gaunt hamlet
Ah I see
Also it would be nice to get a high poly Kotone Model
Sidenote as well, I've been trying to rip the images with the high poly Kotone model but I have no idea where the images for Kotone and Makoto are
gaunt hamlet
Do any of you have experience with texture replacement?
with the models in P3P?
I recently made a HD texture for the ad on the monorail and was wondering if it was possible to replace it.
Also ignore the waifu2x textures, those aren't shown in game but I did them just to make it complete.
magic geyser
they're gonna be in tex2 folder
in this case probably tex2/field/pack/something
basically wherever the model for it is theres a tex2 folder equivalent with dds files
abstract drum
^^, for this particular texture replacing in a mod is as simple as putting a new dds at P5REssentials\CPK\{any folder name}\tex2\field\model\f031_002\f031_002_poster.dds
abstract drum
(it looks like for a couple of the other "subfields" ie f031_003 the same texture appears there so you'd just copy paste it to the corresponding directories if needed lol)
gaunt hamlet
Thanks
abstract drum
Is he holding up a thanksgiving turkey
it's a mutated dog lmfao
certainly one of the movies ever
light bay
@light blaze has the HD Audio mod been fixed in any way? Just downloaded it and some audio seems weird
light blaze
it has not, the only changes have been from me, purpa, and gabishy
light blaze
<@710329149889314817> has the HD Audio mod been fixed in any way? Just downloade...
I recommend installing this QoL modpack cuz it seems to fix a couple things, at least until gabishy’s sfx mod comes out
hers is way better bcuz she’s trying to find the source files lol
light bay
I recommend installing this QoL modpack cuz it seems to fix a couple things, at ...
I installed it just now, but I noticed that the sound of summoning persona and level up was still a bit strange
loud plover
P3P QOL Collection directly replaces HD Audio SFX, and you should not use the two alongside each other
light bay
I know, i tried both to see if there were any changes between then
loud plover
QOL Collection is currently being updated with improved sounds right now, you'll just have to deal with those SFX until then
loud plover
I recommend installing this QoL modpack cuz it seems to fix a couple things, at ...
gabi decided to directly support QOL collection instead fyi
unfortunately we are waiting right now as the new Ryo method for P3P does not support volume control at this time
light blaze
ahhh bet
gaunt hamlet
Nearly all prerendered backgrounds for the start of the game have been done. Only one left.
loud plover
gah this looks so much better
opaque umbra
indeed
gaunt hamlet
Thanks! I used a similar method Neptune used for upscaling P3’s cutscenes
Has there been any attempt to do remake the backdrops in HD? I’m not talking about true HD since that only took screenshots from FES.
loud plover
no, i don't believe there has been an attempt
gaunt hamlet
Dang
loud plover
it is a lot of effort haha
i feel like trueHD's method would have been the most successful, but alas no one is rly interested anymore 😔
gaunt hamlet
it *is* a lot of effort haha
Yeah lol
loud plover
I think at this rate Reload will get close enough to the P3P script that it will become more or less the best way to play the FEMC route. but I also just... don't like a lot of things that Reload does fundamentally so that much is a little sad to me
nothing wrong with the reload FEMC mod being developed ofc, everyone working on that is awesome and I'm thinking of trying to dive into that myself. it's just that it's built on a base that I am not the biggest fan of
gaunt hamlet
Oh no it didn’t come across as you putting down that project
But yeah I wish there was a bigger interest in modding Portable especially for those who prefer it over FES and Reload
I’m one of those people 
loud plover
its reputation is in the mud unfortunately
not undeserved either, but it's unfortunate
portable is not my favorite but I think I prefer it over reload in most regards funny enough 💀
FEMC is the big thing about portable but the gameplay is just kinda comfy and quick, and it doesn't really have as many of the questionable decisions that reload does, it's moreso... it was hardware limited
loud plover
is fuuka's addition the reason why all P3 versions after OG are ass 🤔
green island
Yeah.
loud plover
😔
gaunt hamlet
^^, for this particular texture replacing in a mod is as simple as putting a new...
Sorry just want to double check
\P5REssentials\CPK\tex2\field\model\pack\f031_002\f031_002_diss_04.dds
diss_04 is the name of the original file
loud plover
it would go in P5REssentials but follow the new path that schmuck edited in
in tex2 this is what i'm seeing for the file
magic geyser
you dont
preapp has them all waifu2xed
and as dds, externally in tes2 folder
been that way since p4g 32
gaunt hamlet
Ah gotcha
Also is this good?
P5REssentials\umd0.cpk\tex2\field\model\f031_002\f031_002_posters.dds
loud plover
P5REssentials\CPK\(anything)\....
technically that second folder after CPK can be named whatever so umd0.cpk is fine, then from there everything looks right
loud plover
make sure you use the right dds formatting too
magic geyser
yeah
loud plover
i thought it was bc3 for p3p bc7 for p4g
gaunt hamlet
Ignore this just need to send it to my steam deck
gaunt hamlet
I'll let you know as soon as I have P3P installed on my Laptop
abstract drum
i thought it was bc3 for p3p bc7 for p4g
IIRC p3p and p4g both use a mix of bc3 and bc7 textures (you can always just replace one with the other though from my experience and it works fine )
gaunt hamlet
see what print file access has to say?
I don't think I see it on there
loud plover
it's joever
gaunt hamlet
I'm not sure what's wrong
but yeah the .dds file doesn't show up at all in the print file
loud plover
hmmmm are you loading the field via mod menu or using a hard save
gaunt hamlet
field loader
I have a save file from the monorail on steam deck but I remember it didn't load ether
loud plover
what id is that?
gaunt hamlet
f031_002
loud plover
ty
gaunt hamlet
no worries
loud plover
works for me 😔
your file is named incorrectly. it should be f031_002_poster.dds - remove the s at the end of poster
gaunt hamlet
By the way if anyone is curious about the uncompressed SFX, I made a spread sheet awhile back documenting sound matches. Keep in mind it's still a WIP. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nLpFg6CkwTv99OWbvxx926qmHHhDj36p15sQz801p7g/edit?usp=sharing
loud plover
it has been about 4 months but P3P SFX volume control has been figured out! if anyone wants to test a build of QOL collection with this, that'd be cool, otherwise I'll put something together later. (thanks rena for hard carrying me through this...)
haven't made a PR yet but once that's done, I think the next update will just go straight to 2.0.0 bc it's a significant refactor
green island
Goated
loud plover
if anyone wants to test this mod and make sure everything is working as intended? (you need the BGME build above as well)
green island
Actually, are you planning to release that sfx fix separately
loud plover
hmm well this mod was originally made from combining HD audio SFX and 2 other mods... feel like it would be weird to just be like, yeah, I'm just abandoning QOL collection
this is to say, I didn't have any plans to release the SFX fix separately. any reason why you'd want it separate?
gaunt hamlet
I mean, if you like we could have it in my mod as well
loud plover
so the TL;DR is that I ran into several issues upon doing more testing today. basically, ATLUS code makes no fucking sense and so there's still work to be done for this mod. something is also broken on my end too with the QOL collection dll but to be honest I just have not bothered trying to figure that out rn
of course it wasn't going to be that easy
loud plover
think I finally understand a fraction of your pain. 😭
green island
https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-ryo-yamada-ryou-yamada-ryo-yamada-cry-ryo...
I get it
loud plover
this should actually work now. please let me know if you notice any issues
I am aware of the select and confirm UI sounds being lower pitch than they should be. anything else though, do bring it up, bc I did a bit of testing and didn't notice any major issues
crisp furnace
testing this rn, pretty sure healing and buffs are using the wrong sounds
give me a moment I can record it
actually also just noticed that the teleport sfx here is still compressed
crisp furnace
testing this rn, pretty sure healing and buffs are using the wrong sounds
the enemies' agi also seems to be weird
I don't have any conflicting mods, this is a fresh reloaded ii install on a new computer
some of the card sfx for shuffle time are still compressed
last thing I have to report is that the awakening cutscene is completely silent, no voice clips or sfx
crisp furnace
yeah lol
oh actually last last thing, pretty sure the footstep sfx for the dorm are playing the wrong sound
might be misremembering that one though
I lost all of the data I had on my old computer due to a recent windows update messing everything up, and that includes the work I had on my own p3p hd sfx mod that I posted about a while back.
Would gladly provide it if I could
loud plover
I'd say at this point if you make any progress with SFX it might be best to just combine it with this mod, it would be weird to have multiple HD SFX mods that stand together (QOL collection supplants the original HD SFX). sucks that you lost the files though.
(I'm a little curious how you did your mod originally. did you just use init.bin or did you use ryo framework? I don't remember if you ever talked about it)
loud plover
last thing I have to report is that the awakening cutscene is completely silent,...
you can just use cutscenes anyways
crisp furnace
I'd say at this point if you make any progress with SFX it might be best to just...
I used ryo
I took every sound from the psp version and manually converted them for p3p pc lol
loud plover
ah
should've used the PC version
lol
they're all the same quality as the PSP version
using Ryo would've been pointless anyways bc it had no volume control so SFX was locked at 10
but that's fixed now, it just needs to be tested more and pushed
loud plover
actually also just noticed that the teleport sfx here is still compressed
also looked more into this and I'm finding that this file isn't in the spot i would expect it to be. do you know where it is? bc...
where is it 😭
magic geyser
skills sometimes have vags in their .se
magic geyser
Pretty sure this is done because the .dat holds specific timing for the audio rather then playing it at a set time skills normally do? 
loud plover
I guess I'll have to see if there's a way to modify BGME for these files too
~~which really means bugging ryo for help 😭 ~~
gaunt hamlet
loud plover
oh cool. thanks
trying to work through the playback issues right now, hopefully it won't take too long
gaunt hamlet
Ignore this
green island
What's that
gaunt hamlet
loud plover
this should address that issue
loud plover
last thing I have to report is that the awakening cutscene is completely silent,...
can you confirm if this is still an issue or not?
I also kinda wonder if that's been an issue the whole time even with public BGME or not
if it has been, I will just leave it be for now and tell people to use cutscenes restored or KCP lol
crisp furnace
can you confirm if this is still an issue or not?
I can check in a couple of hours
loud plover
I'd also ask that if you know where some of the other missing files would go/where they are in P3P's files, to let me know so I can get them in there
but nbd if it takes a bit. I can just add them in later updates
crisp furnace
this should address that issue
everything in that vid is fixed now
crisp furnace
can you confirm if this is still an issue or not?
the audio and sfx play again
loud plover
I'm gonna be real with you I have no idea how I managed to fix the cutscenes SFX but I guess it must've been linked
thank you for testing :)
loud plover
@gaunt hamlet is there anything else you wanted to get into this update? otherwise I will go and push out everything in the next day or two (depends on when BGME is updated)
gaunt hamlet
Uhhhh