P4 Fog Restoration (fm. Foggy Inaba, Restored PS2 Fog)

[desert meteor]

Was anything ever found out about the gate rail being possibly restored?

Also yeah this field is lookin' good

[burnt valve]

max never looked into it iirc

I did all the school fields tonight

for this weather

it's very orange

it's also not my best work so maybe someone will point it out and be like hey you should do a second pass on it

but I'll worry about that later

(also, no skyboxes - I really don't enjoy doing skyboxes so I'm putting that off for as long as I can, even if it will probably be easier now)

true...

honestly the fact that I'm still working solo on this is a little surprising

I can do all the fields on my own but it'll just take time

not shaming people for not wanting to help to be clear, it's just that it definitely would be appreciated haha

[burnt valve]

made the heaven showcase public! https://youtu.be/dtOROUCp8Iw

someone went and left two comments about how they didn't like the way the mod looked with the heaven video and I just don't really understand the need to (1. say it twice and (2. be so rude and condescending about it. like if you don't like it that's fine, but don't do that

it's a little bit annoying like I worked hard on heaven in particular and I worked hard on this mod in general so it gets to me a little to hear stuff like that

[finite spire]

Double down by asking why they're playing P4

[silver citrus]

what a freak, i wouldn't worry about it too much

[desert meteor]

Don't listen to the opinions of these random joe schmoes, the only opinion that matters is mine, and I will tell you that Heaven looks great

[finite spire]

It's p4 ergo it's mid

[low meadow]

actually i think loaf's opinion might be strongest as p4g's strongest warrior

[low meadow]

i can't believe smoogie would say that...................

that'd be so funny

[cerulean ember]

I just like the game. Everyone has their own tastes. I think its natural.

[low spoke]

Nice timing. I’m replaying P4G and just finished the dungeon before that one.

[burnt valve]

this has just gone around to being funny because what is bro even waffling on about 😭

[floral rover]

Can you block people on yt? Guy clearly has issues

[finite spire]

You can remove comments as the poster, yes

Also lmao they removed that comment that I replied on

[floral rover]

I'd just reply "i hope you feel better soon"

Only people who leave hateful unconstructive comments like that are people who are unhappy in their own lives for whatever reason

[burnt valve]

I can block them but it involves removing all their comments

which I probably will do but this has just gone around to being funny so I'll preserve that at least

[low spoke]

You sure boss? Not even have any comment moderators?

[finite spire]

What's a comment moderator

That shit does not exist

[low spoke]

You sure? I’m pretty sure it does somewhere in creator studio

Anyways, just imagine a Reddit moderator but for YT comments

[burnt valve]

sounds like too much trouble

hahaha

[low meadow]

you can set it so you have to manually approve all comments lmao

[glossy torrent]

where are the comments at so I could cook his ass🗣️🗣️🙏🙏🔥🔥

[burnt valve]

already gone, sorry you didn't get to cook them 😔

YouTube isn't exactly a good platform to clown on people, at least not without effort lol

[modest lynx]

You’d be surprised Brawler

[low spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/what-daniel-keem-keemstar-dramaalert-what-are-you-saying-gif-20680743

[burnt valve]

let's say i dont feel like making a call out video or whatever lol

[low meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/eggman-dr-eggman-announcement-shadow-the-hedgehog-shadow-gif-21838543

brawler on twitter

[silver citrus]

rando hater isnt even worth the effort or thought tbh

nor are they worth fighting with

[burnt valve]

yea

although ngl it went to being funny real quick...

😭

sometimes I'm curious what people like that are like in reality

[desert meteor]

Extremely introverted

[frail radish]

id bet its either they're somehow just as insufferable and strange or seemingly nothing like that at all just a completely different person entirely

[finite spire]

Hey fuck you I'm introverted as

[slim cradle]

well I was gonna say sometimes they literally do not know they are sounding condescending or rude, so replying with like a calm reply in some cases is a way of getting them to relax if they didn't mean it. That's clear now that's not the case here. Though I've had people take my attitude of being calm as an invitation to be ruder, like they getting a fucking superiority complex over how you respond to their comment. These people really think you owe them something you aren't trying to do. Shit they wouldn't even think of saying to someone in person

I think its best to ignore, if they got nothing better to do they'll take and provocation to continue that behavior. If you as the uploader downvote their comment it'll hide it

[burnt valve]

really? I didn't know that

[slim cradle]

There's something else that hides them easily too but comments good or bad can sometimes hide themselves, I forget what triggers it tho

[silver citrus]

iirc it was certain words but i dont remember what they were

you can setup a word blacklist tho but i doubt that'd help

but yeah for the most part youtube comments just arent worth engaging with if theyre rude

although honestly i dont think theyre really worth engaging in to begin with unless you're a smaller content creator

[slim cradle]

Honestly (most) everyone can kind of read and gather they're rude. You can ignore cause they're making themselves look like an ass at that point, their comments more embarassing for themselves. Unless you're BIG big, not many people will wanna rally with that kind of person

[silver citrus]

yeah pretty much

although its honestly probably better to hide those comments so people dont argue in the replies

although i guess that would probably count as video interaction so... maybe not?

i just think youtube comments are a pretty poor method of communication honestly

yeah pretty much

[slim cradle]

If there's legit criticism I do make a calm reply & thank them. At least if I see it at the relevant time. If they reply rudely it just reflects on them at that point, prime example is that screenshot. But I have seen people more or less diffuse when calmly replied to

Oh being on a VPN makes your comment vanish lol

[burnt valve]

yeah there's several comments on other videos where people are like oh I don't like the way this looks and it's like ok

this guy went from being kinda rude to just... wow lol

[low spoke]

Can’t wait for P4 Frog Restoration mod tomorrow

[burnt valve]

oh god I completely forgot about April fools lol

I won't lie I do not have the motivation to make something right now 💀

[severe reef]

make the Silent Hill mod NOW

[true barn]

Do I prefer some of Golden's aesthetic changes? Yeah I do. Do I also go around commenting on a mod that it sucks, why are they trying to change it back? No, beause I was raised to have standards with my trolling.

[low spoke]

No Frog Restoration Mod news? Sadge

[digital palm]

we need more frogs

[fierce wyvern]

PS2 Fog Removal mod for April Fools 2026

[tacit valley]

there's rude and there's comically rude, and usually when it's comically rude it's someone trying to farm

meaning engaging is their victory even if everyone else sides with you

[burnt valve]

that's a good one, maybe I'll do it. we can call it, Persona 4 Goldener: Fog Removal + share screenshots of everyone complaining about the thick fog when there is literally none to be seen

[quasi igloo]

You hit new game and it just boots you into a save file on the true last boss

[low spoke]

+1

[low spoke]

I initially thought a new update for Fog Restoration came out when this video was published. However, it was only a showcase of an update coming soon. I still like what the showcase video shown tho

[cerulean ember]

Well, there we be another one hopefully soon.

[burnt valve]

the showcase videos have been slow, sorry about that. technically the more accurate way to put it is that this stuff is what's in the mod right now

it hasn't been a super high priority for me but I figured having showcases would be good

[low spoke]

Ohh

[burnt valve]

no major update really, just a preview of the school since that was what i was previously working on. ignore anything related to the sky it's not done

figure i should at least show this off

I am thinking about whether I should say I am definitely taking a hiatus on this mod until like May or June bc I've been a bit disinterested in modding lately and want to do other things, but I think that much was kinda apparent already.

obviously I'm still active around here and it's possible I might get back to this sooner, but life has been busy lately :') need what free time I can get for a break yk

[low meadow]

i'm paying attention to the sky :3

[scenic dust]

You don't necessarily need to say that the mod is on hiatus, you could just not work on it for a while (until you feel like it again). If setting a more concrete date to start again helps you though then do that.
Whatever you do it's fair to take a break. This stuff is meant to be for fun, it's not your job

[quasi igloo]

The only real benefit to saying publicly you’re taking a break is someone else may want to contribute in your off time, other than that there’s no real reason to announce a break

[burnt valve]

I'll probably keep it to this server then. I know this isn't a job for me but I know people like following along and so communicating that I'm not really working on it rn doesn't seem like a bad thing

hasn't been abandoned ofc!

[finite spire]

Pace yourself

[burnt valve]

well hey if anyone would like to contribute :p

[quasi igloo]

It’d be cool if you could write up the process of the work you’ve done so far and what needs doing so if anyone wanted to they’d have a clear idea of the needed spec

[floral rover]

Pretty certain it's all on github

[burnt valve]

it is

everything has been on GitHub for months

the todo has also been on GB for a bit now

[burnt valve]

oops </3 that was this mod causing it apparently

I think I'm going to release a small patch to fix this and include some of the other changes from before. nothing for sunny inaba, just want this out of the way bc it's clearly not intended

oh wait no this is unreleased. no patch needed then

whew

[severe reef]

did you change the floor texture or something?

[burnt valve]

yeah, it was one of gabi's source textures

i was just going to fix the resolution issues but then i realized that there was some odd clipping so I just removed it

[severe reef]

sometimes converting textures breaks it for me

could be that too

can you send the original DDS?

@burnt valve

[burnt valve]

no, it was a resolution issue for sure. the texture I received was already a dds and there were no issues with it there, it was just the resolution. again, I cut it for other reasons

[halcyon ledge]

grass and trees are soooo ass in golden it's unbelievable

[halcyon ledge]

is it possible to make shades under the class desks more noticable?

[burnt valve]

no because they literally don't exist

golden decided that shadows were overrated ig

[severe reef]

I mean you could edit the shadow texture lol

[burnt valve]

what?

what are you talking about

[severe reef]

Edit the texture for the desk’s shadow

The shadows are textures

Wait

see

here's a test of it in game

here it is with a little more shade

and by that I just copied the image 4 times and combined them all

[burnt valve]

fair, I stand corrected then

it was moreso that it seemed there were no shadows present at all, so there would be no texture to edit.

[severe reef]

I got news for you lol

like every shadow in the game is a texture lol

unless they're Character Models

[burnt valve]

I'm aware of that

(although that isn't strictly true actually)

again, it was moreso that it seemed there were no shadows present at all, so there would be no texture to edit in that case. but as stated, I stand corrected.

[halcyon ledge]

damn daniel

[silver citrus]

christ that was a lot of snark just to end up saying like 1 thing 😭

[low meadow]

yeah

[burnt valve]

confirmed it works on my end too. yay!

this is nice to know. i didn't think there was a texture for it bc it was basically impossible to see the shadows so I assumed there was nothing. but there we go.

I wonder if P4 PS2 has a similar texture that can be used? it would be easier than editing this one

the answer is yes

i think i kinda want to go through and see what other instances of this are true. again, thanks for pointing this out greg

[severe reef]

thumbs up

[severe reef]

maybe you can look at the Love hotel lights again

[burnt valve]

p4g modded vs p4

[burnt valve]

I will but I have doubts on that one bc this is just a shadow map

[low meadow]

man what did they do to the poor p4g one

[burnt valve]

the actual p4g stock one is this

[low meadow]

looks like they erased half the texture then tried scribbling it back in 😭

[severe reef]

less shadows

[burnt valve]

I'm confused what the top half is too

[severe reef]

windows and chalkboard maybe

[low meadow]

top is window streaming in sunlight and chalkboard methinks

[burnt valve]

also: what is this?

it's completely missing in p4g

[low meadow]

shadow from a sun ray?

we know how much p4g loves its (missing) shadows

[burnt valve]

well I'm keeping that one the same as P4G

...I see what that line is

I also see why it was removed. this doesn't look right

I also think these shadows are a little too strong overall....

[severe reef]

damn these fuckers are dark lol

[burnt valve]

mhm. another difference

has this gone around to being too subtle again?

...i think it has

how are we feeling about this?

[low meadow]

looks like a perfect middle ground

[red root]

very good

[low meadow]

chee

[burnt valve]

let me get stock for a comparison here

rudiger will be happy to see this channel has activity due to mod updates :p

lol. lmao

[red root]

fullbright p4g

[low meadow]

p3re dorm

[burnt valve]

TRUE

https://fxtwitter.com/_ace_defective_/status/1910548318737834032

Brawler | playing peaksona 5 tactica! (@_ace_defective_)

p4 shadow restoration

FxTwitter · Apr 11, 2025, 4:19 AM

this does a good job of showing the differences i think

also rise it's your favorite - p4 kiwami :p (imo the p4 styled one looks far better though...)

[low meadow]

why is there a p4kiwami filter

[red root]

accurate to the original

that was adachis plan remember
the fog will turn everyone into kiwami

[burnt valve]

also fuck this would've been a good April fools joke

Dojima residence in the style of persona 3 reload 🔥🔥

would be funny to make the school look gorgeous (imo the school looks good in P3R) and then make the dorm look like utter dogshit

[severe reef]

I wanted the Silent Hill mod lol

trynna extract the CVM rn

I'm lost lol

[burnt valve]

yeah sorry... I was out of motivation tbh to work on mods

even now I have a convention I'd like to prep for soon so that will take priority over this

[finite spire]

Convention?

[low meadow]

the kiwami convention

[burnt valve]

yeah it's an irl thing lol

[finite spire]

Yeah but what kind of con

[burnt valve]

anime lol

I have some prep I wanna do for that and that's coming up so I rly need to start prioritizing it more

[burnt valve]

someone on Twitter told me that the lack of shadows was a new bug introduced with P4G64, so I looked back at some vita footage and they were right

they mentioned 4 instances, one of which was patched by ATLUS. this might end up being a side project but maybe I can just pull the P4G32 textures and make it a mod

Initially I was just going to keep my shadow work exclusive to this mod bc it deviates from the original look, but now it sounds more like a bug to fix than anything else

the other area I can think of looking at is the train station

[floral rover]

Wtf. Wow.

[burnt valve]

I forgot that mod was a thing ngl 😭 that sounds good though

I'm curious if this shadow issue was present on P4G32 but I'm guessing it isn't

I only looked up vita footage

maybe I should go install P4G32 to compare the two. can you run both 32 and 64 side by side or only one at a time?

don't know if any of you guys have ever done that before

[frail radish]

i mean the guide for it does say that you dont need to uninstall p4g64 so id assume yes

[burnt valve]

can I run them both at the same time though 🤔

[frail radish]

I tried just now and it didn't seem like it unfortunately

Trying to open 32bit just made 64 bit run instead

[burnt valve]

wait, so you can't even boot 32?

while having 64 installed?

I can think of two ways to get around this lol

[frail radish]

I got it to open 32 bit once I think but then it closed itself before actually opening the window and since then it just opens 64 bit lol

[burnt valve]

😭

yeah that sucks though. normally with this mod I would just have both P4G and P4 open on the same monitor

[burnt valve]

ah, so portable install of R2 for P4G32...

still doesn't really solve the issue of having both games open at once

LMAO I was thinking about it but I didn't want to say it

there's probably a jank way to do it legitimately too haha

I think I'd also want to figure out how to install CSM with mod menu on P4G32 so that's another challenge there if going that route

or I could just take the slow and tedious route too

I'll look into it at some point but for now I think having a 32bit install will suffice

[scenic dust]

It's really weird. There's a check for there being multiple instances of the game and it seems to actually be necessary. I removed it but when you open the second instance of the game they both open but then become unresponsive. It even happens if one instance is 32 bit and one is 64 bit which is extra interesting

Same thing happens with p3p, p5r works just fine though (there is no check to remove)

[burnt valve]

weird. I wonder why

[scenic dust]

I'd guess it's because it's hardcoded to create and look for a window with the name DX11_P4G__app in a few places. Maybe if I make that unique it'll be happy. I may as well give it a try

[white ruin]

Speaking of Vita, now that mynnew phone has amoled screen, I want to check how the game looks the way the devs intended

[burnt valve]

yeah I know you're busy so don't worry about putting a ton of time into it but if you do figure out something, lmk

[white ruin]

It's not that different at all.
Sacrificed fog for something that you don't even notice, thanks atlus

[burnt valve]

😭

[cerulean ember]

I feel like I noticed it but I thought this was normal.

The lack fo shadows that is.

I do have a copy of the 32 bit version.

Because I apparently am insane,

[burnt valve]

here we go

yeah now i get to figure out how to mod p4g32 again because it's been years

lol

[scenic dust]

This didn't seem to work, same thing happens even with different window ids. There must be other stuff going wrong...

[burnt valve]

i can just ignore this yea?

since, like... yeah, of course it's different

this game runs like ass compared to 64 😭

but yeah oh wow

[cerulean ember]

Ah, good times.

[finite spire]

Yeah.

Retum

[cerulean ember]

Btw, lmk the locations, I uh - totally have too much footage of p4g from 32-bit era.

[burnt valve]

think this speaks for itself

[burnt valve]

although i do think mine still look better (but it's a bit hard to tell bc of texture changes too)

[tacit viper]

i cant decide if its actually darker in 64 or just looks darker because darker floor

[burnt valve]

32 vs 64

[tacit viper]

ok nvm

[burnt valve]

seems like a lot of shadows just straight up got removed in 64

this might be a new project on its own lol

man I had just deleted my P4G32 dump too 😔

[desert meteor]

Why is the poster on the back board different between the two

[fierce wyvern]

I'm assuming that whatever they used to upscale the textures completely messed with how the shadows work lol

[low meadow]

i TOLD you atlus hates shadows in p4g

:3c

[low meadow]

:333

[burnt valve]

yeah they messed up the transparency

switch alpha to gray and yea

[severe reef]

How did they fuck it up lol

[burnt valve]

there's a lot of different textures here actually

[severe reef]

Were the shadows not upscaled before the update?

[burnt valve]

I'm making this a standalone mod rather than edit TFP+ for simplicity but I'll just send over the files afterwards and they can be integrated into TFP+

another example (these are wall shadows)

I think I'll definitely want to revisit P4FR after these textures are applied bc maybe it will make things look better

[severe reef]

Using discord on the new dark mode is a pain for looking at these textures lol

[burnt valve]

yeah sorry lol

I honestly switched off the new dark mode ASAP

[severe reef]

I like the new dark mode

[burnt valve]

is this more helpful

[severe reef]

It’s just bad for looking at Persona 4’s shadow textures

[burnt valve]

yeah i get it

has classroom textures

[severe reef]

Could you try doubling the 64 bit texture?

[burnt valve]

i think i have to go through this manually is the problem

[severe reef]

Like doubling it and seeing how it looks compared to 32 bit

[burnt valve]

double 64 vs 32

[severe reef]

Can you make the alpha grey lol

[severe reef]

Do another double of 64

[burnt valve]

looks like they did upscale it

[severe reef]

Would it be better if you just cloned the texture 3 times and merged them all together or just ported the 32 bit textures

Because I think the 64 one looks a lot better

But the ground is a bit darker

That’s what did in one of my screenshots

[burnt valve]

i mean with shadows can you really tell the difference tho?

idk, feel free to try

only has textures for the classroom

i worry about the ground being darker mainly

[severe reef]

Just to see to do the 64 texture 3 times

[burnt valve]

here, i'll try it out actually

[severe reef]

I would try it but I’m in bed rn lol

[burnt valve]

p4g32 vs 64x3

just for fun, p4g64

so idk i dont think you can rly tell the difference in terms of quality

just that the shadows are different

[desert meteor]

Persona 4 Reload

[red root]

the shadows are existent

[burnt valve]

sorry, forgot to reply to this, but i believe it was down to the fact that p4g64 is based off the japanese version while p4g32 is not

[desert meteor]

Naruhodo....

[severe reef]

What weather is this

[burnt valve]

sunny, late

[burnt valve]

forgot to change the npcs oops :D

[desert meteor]

AAAAAAAA-

[severe reef]

True Shadow Removal

[burnt valve]

too many shadows sorry :(

ok im gonna get back to this lol

speaking of the living room, I have no idea what's going on there bc i know it looks different in 64 than 32 but the textures look about the same

[severe reef]

I’m pretty sure that all the shadow textures have shadow in the name

[burnt valve]

yea hang on

also let me just say again

p4g32 runs like ass

do you know if this is an issue btw

it is not in the same spot as my p4g64 install

fair haha

i swear this game wasn't so stuttery when i played it originally (p4g32)

[severe reef]

Swear I saw a comparison video somewhere

[burnt valve]

32 vs 64

i swear some of those 32 textures just look better too

yeahhhhh

maybe i should just be selective with what i notice

[flat dagger]

arent the filenames the same

and paths

one could just, move them to 64 bit location

[burnt valve]

it is like 1.2GB but that is true

some of the p4g64 textures are better too imo haha

[severe reef]

You can see a deference on the plank of wood on the ground

[burnt valve]

would it generate a cache?

it's a direct file replacement

basically this is my process rn

you can see those transparent shadow textures look different across p4g32 vs 64

move those over

ez

[severe reef]

Damn your windows lets you preview the DDS for shadows

Mine doesn’t

[burnt valve]

hey pixel do you have the town map fix?

f001_001v_01 looks oddly different which fucks up the look ingame

i think this is all you need but actually here's the rest to be sure

[burnt valve]

it still is rather tedious

but yea

[severe reef]

Would be much better lol

[burnt valve]

i think it's because i have a program set to open dds files by default

my program of choice rly is paint.net bc that's my editor lol

idk what irfanview64 is but im sure its useful

[severe reef]

I have my DDS files set to open with Gimp, but textures like those don’t open with gimp lol

[burnt valve]

does it load them quickly too because windows takes fucking forever lol

pdn does something like this where it slowly loads the previews

[severe reef]

If i wanna open the broken files I gotta put it in Persona Editor, extract as a PNG, and edit it in gimp

I save the DDS in gimp because sometimes they don’t wanna save though the editor lol

The only downside with that is that the previews are broken, and I can’t open it in the Editor anymore

[burnt valve]

i wonder if you could improve your process by doing it the way i'm doing it bc I have no need to do all that

i have a dump, and i just open directly with pdn and save with pdn

no need for persona editor, extracting as png, etc

[severe reef]

Gimp handles DDS files weirdly

I can’t have a render preset for it

And it’ll either render a single layer of the image with its dimensions

I gotta manually crop shit lol

[burnt valve]

this is super useful for dds actually, it is way faster than pdn lol

ty for the rec

well, it does occasionally fail...

its only with p4g64 where it fails...

[low meadow]

of course :3

[burnt valve]

there's also this odd pattern i'm noticing where a lot of the 64 shadows are translated over one pixel

definitely a little odd

[slim cradle]

I was gonna say pretty sure I showed the shadow difference off in my video

Don't think I vocally pointed it out

[burnt valve]

i think you did yea but it's far more extensive than i realized

[slim cradle]

Yeah it was like it was more accurate to the vita version than it is now cause of it

[burnt valve]

this one pixel offset is incredibly confusing

wait maybe it's not a thing, maybe i'm gaslighting myself

no, irfanview is gaslighting me

ok lol

[slim cradle]

Kek

[burnt valve]

the p4g64 textures are generally smoother looking which is good for shadows

[burnt valve]

which one looks better (naoto dungeon)

[red root]

hmmmmmmmm

[flat dagger]

the right

baked in specular is good

[red root]

the right looks horribly pixelated tho

[frail radish]

It does but that could end up not really mattering in-game

[red root]

quick mockup here

just used the alpha of the first

to make it look a little less rough

[low meadow]

yeah yours seems a bit less neon green

also makes the smaller splotches look better

[red root]

i didnt change the colors at all

well, placebo effect goes crazy

[flat dagger]

how did some splotches get deleted lol

(from atlus textures not yours)

[burnt valve]

you do definitely notice it being pixelated if you look closely

[silver citrus]

the glorp

[burnt valve]

this is with rise's texture. i think it definitely looks a bit better

[red root]

[burnt valve]

no problem with me using it right?

[silver citrus]

yeah thats much better

looks less distracting too

[red root]

nope!

[burnt valve]

yay ty

[silver citrus]

pay $8927378 in licensing fees

[red root]

[burnt valve]

https://tenor.com/view/kujikawa-rise-rise-kujikawa-persona-4-urimi-gif-16717028003624237591

[red root]

randomly fix things
refuse to elaborate
disappear from the community entirely

[burnt valve]

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

if anyone wants to test this

[low meadow]

the thumbnail for shadow restoration should be the shadow settings toggle in the game settings

[burnt valve]

it was going to be a part of TFP, I only made it a standalone mod to make initial testing easier for myself

[burnt valve]

nah I'd just say make it part of TFP

I didn't rly test this much at all soooo yeah someone will probably need to go thru it and verify everything looks ok

[twilit harbor]

This feels a bit closer to a restoration project in general, not just limited to the fog

Don't tell me even golden exclusive areas have this exact same issue?

[burnt valve]

I would assume so given this is an issue that was introduced with the 2023 update

[twilit harbor]

oof

[quasi igloo]

insane that no one noticed this until now

[burnt valve]

updated

[severe reef]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-batman-bien-deacuerdo-gif-7994289207298722537

I also got those broken DDS files working with Gimp now

only issue is that there's still no preview image

hope they can fix that

[low meadow]

looks like how it should lol

[burnt valve]

they're already done

just needs verification

any work I'm doing from here is for P4 Fog Restoration. the shadows are stronger in P4 PS2

...in multiple regards but I mean the textures here to be clear lol

[low meadow]

tfp update

[severe reef]

forgot to ask this

@burnt valve do you plan on releasing the Environment Shadow Fixes as a separate mod?

because the Texture Fix Mod wont be compatible with my MS Paint mod

[burnt valve]

it's a part of TFP right now. why would it not be compatible?

are you also editing shadows?

[severe reef]

nvm I'm just an idiot lol

the Paint mod is gonna have to be below every other mod for compatibility shit lol

it'll make the changes obsolete lol

https://tenor.com/view/sucker-loser-tom-and-jerry-fool-pushover-gif-26186693

[burnt valve]

yeah pretty much

[severe reef]

I was just updating the mod page for compatibility stuff and thought if it lol

[severe reef]

now I need to know how I can get the files to load in it lol

[severe reef]

trying to code shit is hard lol

ok

[burnt valve]

I'm getting a bit more nitpicky here which I think might make things take longer but after I worked on some of the shadow restoration stuff, I'm also going through and adjusting some of the fields

current vs dev vs p4

[burnt valve]

cloudy day Inaba is mostly done, I just skipped some fields but honestly I don't want to get too bogged down with what is really touchup work

I'll look thru rainy Inaba and then get back to sunny Inaba afterwards

this is super tedious though lol

[round rock]

i feel like that's a trend with your projects

[burnt valve]

at least I'm not suffering with BGM modding :D

...speaking of BGM modding, I need to add tactica music to RBT...

[finite spire]

Lmao

Bgm modding is an addiction

[stone star]

The second screenshot is better

[midnight vine]

I also think the second screenshot is better.

[burnt valve]

yeah, I didn't touch shadows at all though actually

I think the missing shadows are just textures similar to the stuff previously posted here if I had to guess

[frail radish]

If you zoom in really close you can still see the AO its just that by making the fog/lighting? brighter it makes those AO shadows brighter and thus less visible i suspect

[burnt valve]

but I'm not sure, P4G certainly has different worse lighting compared to P4

[burnt valve]

probably

[tacit valley]

Been meaning to ask for a really long time, but I think there should be a little more individual control for P4G exclusive fields, because out of every ENV the mod has added or restored, Croco Fur in Okina is the only one that just feels wrong, almost like it's bugged

it feels like it's meant to be brightly lit, but the p4-style ENV just feels like all the lights were turned off even though they're still visible on the objects themselves

really sticks out every time I visit as the only ENV that I actively want to disable

[burnt valve]

how would you suggest it be done? genuine question because whatever I do here I would probably want to apply to other fields

Individual field toggles might become a little much when it comes to areas like the shopping district or the stuff in the misc category, which was why I didn't initially do it

in the short term, go to the Okina city folder and delete _002 I think, that's croco fur

[tacit valley]

even in that example, the store is relatively lit rather than looking dark with extremely isolated spotlights if it makes sense

[tacit valley]

does p4 really have that many shops, i can only think of daidara, shiroku, croco fur and chagall as actual enterable shops with envs

and aiya ofc

so i imagine deleting the pack _002 and the iwanttocri folders will revert croco fur

is chagall not affected by this mod yet

it looks perfect to me regardless, i dont think there's much fog to restore in an interior

||december moment||

it's peam

[desert meteor]

mat_fullbright

[tacit valley]

i do find Okina to be generally free of fog to make sense but I keep it enabled for consistency

[tacit valley]

genuinely better than everything being turned off sorry

i get the idea it just looks bugged

[white ruin]

While I like both looks, I can totally see why OG looks like this.
First of all let's look at the source of light in this scene

1. Lamps on left wall can only light up a small part of the wall (probably made to highlight the products on the shelves)

2. Bugs on middle wall clearly don't emit enough light to cover the entire room

3. Lamps on ceiling is where you could say are the ones responsible for lighting up the room, and in OG I can see why they don't work on 100% to highlight the lamps on walls

But in the end it's all up for personal preference

[desert meteor]

OG P4 for reference

I personally like the darker red vibe more

[tacit valley]

it genuinely struck me as a bugged field when i saw it lmfao

og p4 looks slightly different to me though

[frail radish]

It does look like OGP4 has a slightly more red filter on it plus the slightly different textures on some of the shelves does fit with the intended mood lighting vibe better I think

As well as some of the shadows seeming more intense (not sure if this is down to the same P4G64 shadow lightening issue or if they'd need to be made even darker for this field specifically even with the normal fix for that)

[silver citrus]

personally i think the atmosphere of the original is much, much better

p4g just looks fullbright

[silver citrus]

honestly i think they'd be more tolerable if reloaded's config menu was more flexible

like even just being able to put a side by side preview or something to show the difference between on and off would be nice

[flat dagger]

fork femc config app and change it to be your options

[silver citrus]

[red root]

[burnt valve]

lmao I mean... I don't really think I'm a big fan of having a separate configuration app on top of R2. maybe it would be useful in this case but...

I think it would be really helpful if you could have options in R2 to change all in a category

that way you could have the individual toggles but then you could have an overarching, yes/no

[flat dagger]

technically you can make r2 open up a program to change configs when you press configure

[low meadow]

if the debate here is "i like it more unchanged" then just... turn off the p4 fog restoration version of the field?
unless i'm misunderstanding, it seems like that issue has already been solved with adding toggles to everything in p4fr

[tacit valley]

there's literally no debate here it started and ended with "this field does not have a toggle"

[low meadow]

ah, seems like i had a persona fan moment

https://tenor.com/view/persona-persona3-persona-3-persona-3-reload-misinformation-gif-2736390499350685280

[astral fiber]

don't spoil my stuff

[scenic dust]

What if you didn't have to deal with r2 configs at all. The debug menu has a thing for loading a different env and I think it works fine (correct me if it doesn't). In theory, you could do the same thing that does to let you switch between the two options on the fly then just save whatever the last selected option was to a config file. That config probably wouldn't be directly viewable in reloaded but I feel like that doesn't really matter if it's a single button press to switch between the two for each env.
(I'm thinking this would be kinda like Halo CE and 2 in MCC where there's a button that switches between og and updated graphics, if anyone remembers that)

If that does sound interesting to others (it does to me) I might try this out later today. I think the main thing is whether that load env thing actually works properly. Even if it doesn't though you could always reload the field (wouldn't be as cool though)

[burnt valve]

I think this had been brought up previously. I swear I brought up Halo myself, like the whole press button to toggle ENVs lol

that would be pretty sick if it was possible to let people save their config

and no correction needed - the load feature does work but I think it might ignore things like contrast setting in the ENV

(have not tested extensively)

the one thing is that I was planning to have slightly modified versions of the P4G ENVs as the "stock" option - basically the same ENV but reduce contrast from 1.05 to 1.00

[burnt valve]

yeah I think this one might actually be down to engine differences in lighting. I could make it more red to try to match the vibes of P4 PS2 but that would come at the cost of some accuracy due to lighting shenanigans (afaik this one is not a P4G64 issue)

I meant to talk about this earlier but I forgor...\

[scenic dust]

Definitely possible, ik I have at least thought about this a few times before

[scenic dust]

That should be fine. Assuming it works, I imagine I'd do it by having the P4FR versions have different env ids (probably just append something to the env name like f007_002_P4FR.env) . Then you could replace the original P4G envs if you want slightly different versions just by changing them normally.

[burnt valve]

smart

[round rock]

[twilit harbor]

How's progress been goin'?

[burnt valve]

it's not 😔 at least I have nothing new to share since the last time I shared info

I've been having to work overtime the last 3 weeks + I just had a con so no time :p

[twilit harbor]

I hope the con was fun at laest

[burnt valve]

oopsie

💀

only took like 2.5 months for me to notice this one LMAO

I'm wrapping up work on P4A animated cut-ins then I will return to this. it's just that animated cut-ins was higher priority bc it was a CEP mod

well, I've also been so busy because of work 😭 I am so excited for that to finally be back to normal again

[cursive cosmos]

[burnt valve]

to be clear: don't expect anything new for probably another week or so. work should lighten up by then (I wanted to start a bit today but animated cut-ins took longer than expected)

also posted this on social media but I should also say that in the event that a P4 remake is announced tomorrow (which I really hope it isn't lol), I don't plan to stop development of this mod prematurely so dw about that

I'd like to see it through, personally

[astral fiber]

im seeing a distinct lack of fog p4 fog restoration revival lets gooooo

[finite spire]

It's a summer scene though

[astral fiber]

there can be fog in the summer

[burnt valve]

its so fucking blue omfg

i did this as a shitpost but it doesnt even look half as blue

[finite spire]

It's so green

It's so blue

Should be swapped fr

[astral fiber]

that's p4's color so it makes sense

[finite spire]

noot

[severe reef]

put an AI piss filter over it for shits and giggles

[true barn]

You know, if someone told me, without any context, that this was a still shot from a new anime, I'd totally believe it, but that's probably just because it's just low resolution enough that my brain can see it

[burnt valve]

it does kinda look like an anime background lol

[quasi igloo]

yeah i think it’s meant to evoke anime backgrounds

like it looks like makoto shinkai type beat

[silver citrus]

narukami we must defeat the evil blue god

[lean vigil]

maybe it's their way to make the color grading look more "vibrant" and "youthful"?

[quasi igloo]

it also probably helps to make the sunny days look like this so that cloudy and rainy days have way more contrast. P5’s summer was similarly overblown

i think it looks pretty good. To talk about the mod- glad to hear you’re continuing to work on it, @burnt valve

[lime abyss]

that character model in revival better be changed because wtf lmao

Also im so against the 3D camera lol

[burnt valve]

seems like it will be a while until p4r comes out anyways given how rough the footage looked so I still have time to finish this lmao

maybe I can finish this up with a decent amount of time before the game releases... frankly I think with what they showed us, if it released any sooner than like 2027 it would be rushed 💀

[low meadow]

p4 has always been a rushed p3 romhack

[astral fiber]

crazy how good it came out considering how mid the foundation was

[low meadow]

i think you have it backwards ryo from bocchi the rock

[astral fiber]

we're ryo from ryo the framework

[cursive cosmos]

Besides, considering how ATLUS is pulling a Halo CE Anniversary with P4RE

I'd say it's honestly better for the longevity of your mod lol

It means its still gonna be the best way to experience the original atmosphere of P4 PS2 as close as possible

[lime abyss]

Ohh please do not cancel it, it was too much for my heart to see P3HD get canceled 😭

this one of the mods i'm wishing and hoping to see completed 😭

also

on your site

the page 2 with comparison shots is broken

https://p4fogmod.maxineis.gay/index.html

oop nvm

just took like a minute to load it seems

like literally a minute lol

[burnt valve]

@cyan crown

[cyan crown]

yeah the raspberry pi its hosted on is not being amazing

The second problem is that if you're on the other side of the world (E.G EU) then it's gonna take forever the first try (it is cached behind Bunny CDN) as it will pull it from NZ

It's on my board to deal with.

[burnt valve]

we also haven't touched that site in a bit oops lol

[cyan crown]

I still haven't fixed mobile

It's a tragic fucking mess

That I beautifully slapped together some how

[burnt valve]

it's just low priority haha, the only reason there are showcase videos is because loaf took ownership for all of those

i only provide feedback for those at most

and we're all busy soooo

[cyan crown]

Yeah everything project wise was put on hold back in October for me. I am still really in survival mode but I really should fix this. I'm not proud of it and I don't want anyone to think that I shouldn't be harsh on myself because I really have left that site in such a shit state.

[cerulean ember]

I'll work on the vids when I'm done my current vid project.

[astral fiber]

any particular reason it cant be hosted on github pages

[burnt valve]

you want to remove "gay" from the URL? during pride month?

😭

tbh we kinda threw this together and then forgor about it 😭

i still like it overall though, having a page like this. Maxine you're being too harsh on yourself

[cyan crown]

Never looked into it. I'm not the repo owner, just a contributor.

No reason why we can't as long as we can do side by side comparisons with a slider.

[cyan crown]

It's going to get removed anyway because Maxineis.gay is too costly to renew

[astral fiber]

can't afford to be gay, what has the world come to

[cyan crown]

I can do much better and I know it. The community also deserves better so I'll bump this up the priority list and do some looking while I'm at work

[cyan crown]

$35 usd to renew... And yukaritakeba.com is only $13...

Go figure!

[astral fiber]

just bought it, i'll sell it to you for 200

[cyan crown]

You're not getting me ryo Tanaka

https://tenor.com/view/president-tanaka-persona-3-persona-4-persona-5-tanaka's-shady-commodities-gif-533933878178230393

[cyan crown]

Just thought I'd share I've already start looking at better image comparison sliders and have already found one that's way more mobile friendly, gonna tear down the site and rebuild from the ground up but progress has been made already (this isn't live and wont be live until I'm fully satisfied with it and its had some testers)

[burnt valve]

wanted to post something more substantial but I don't really have anything to say besides that I'm once again working on the mod actively. my progress may be slowed down again this week but I've been getting back into the swing of things and I got more done than I realized back in March/April. honestly, I probably was close to the release of a new update given what was there, but it is what it is.

sorry for not doing much with this mod, i'm sure it's been a bit disappointing not seeing too much going on with it.

here's something I can say: I fucking hate the full bright grass in P4G

at this point I am actively considering trying to put in the PS2 grass textures because this looks so goofy

and something similar with trees too

something else I was considering: I have been going thru several fields and the god rays are something I am looking into trying to remove

it could just be a toggle but i am unsure if it fits well with many of the fields they're present in

also, feel free to make your kiwami jokes rn

[frail radish]

fullbright grass and bright as fuck omega contrasty trees 💀 truly p4g has the graphics of all time

[burnt valve]

yeah, this one is particularly atrocious

some of the lighting in p4g doesn't hold up too well either in the school, but that's a given. p4 has better lighting than p4g overall

[severe reef]

I hate the sun beam lol

it wont change texture for the life of me lol

[burnt valve]

is it a texture?

i mean maybe it is, but i'm not sure it would be relevant bc it might be a model or something

[severe reef]

It is a texture

[burnt valve]

where is it located at?

I guess you would know if almost anything is a texture at this pt

[severe reef]

I would need to crack the game again

one sec

all I know is that this is the texture

[burnt valve]

...are you sure?

[severe reef]

yeah

[burnt valve]

to me that seems like a different texture for cloudy days tbh

[severe reef]

maybe

[burnt valve]

let me try to get a picture but it looks similar to like, the sun poking thru the clouds

[severe reef]

the folder it's in is called "cloud_light"

[burnt valve]

yea i found it there that's why i was questioning it (that and the texture itself)

[severe reef]

I know there's more places that use the same texture, and all of them aren't for the beams I'm talking about

[burnt valve]

darkened the sky so it would be easier to see. I think it is specifically just these though

or maybe the sunray uses the same texture but idk

for me I'm not convinced the sunray necessarily uses the same texture

[severe reef]

if they did I would be able to see the changes

[burnt valve]

there's an easy way to test though

[severe reef]

if I don't know where a texture would be used I would make it solid red

never changed

right file paths and all

[burnt valve]

development of this mod lately has also been significantly harder bc my game crashes like 5 times before it boots properly

debug menu is absolutely causing issues here and it would be great to see a proper fix for it. but I've been getting a lot of generic CLR errors and such that seem connected to dotnet in some way. idk

[severe reef]

It might be with the .NET stuff

it was fuckin with me on P4 somehow

this is the model BTW

[burnt valve]

yep that's the texture for that

that is helpful at least

might add a toggle to get rid of those

I was going to expand the config menu significantly at some point. unsure if that will be next update or not

I think I'm also getting to the point where I can no longer ignore the tree and grass textures in this area. so, todo for next update (I'm stopping for now):

• add proper skyboxes as needed for all late sunny fields
• do the shrine and other misc fields bc I haven't done those
• fix the tree and grass textures

the current patch notes are as such

- Added late day sunny Inaba fields
- Improved visuals of several existing Inaba fields
- Added a few December fog Inaba fields
- Added new shadow textures
- Added several source versions of P4 PS2 field textures (thanks to GabiShy for compiling these textures!)
- Improved R-II configuration with proper ordering, new enums, and more options

[severe reef]

what if this fucker is a NPC

nope it aint

oh god it's a EPL

[burnt valve]

do you know which EPL it is?

[severe reef]

it's gotta be SUN_LIGHT and SUNSET_L

do EPLs have textures in P4?

[burnt valve]

they can

[severe reef]

the P4 EPL extractor nearly deleted my whole desktop

[finite spire]

Awesome

[severe reef]

thankfully the most I lost were some Audio files for the P3 Redub mod that I sorted out lol

nevermind

it removed a whole bunch of files from my other folders

my meme folder I had for 3 years is empty now lol

https://tenor.com/view/teddie-leave-behind-farewell-goodbye-prank-gif-9309948306818475792

[finite spire]

Bruh moment

[severe reef]

I was just trynna find the smoke used in the Izanami opening scene lol

day is ruined

also lost progress on a P3P mod F

[finite spire]

F

[severe reef]

thankfully it was only in the logo phase lol

[tacit viper]

how does this happen

[burnt valve]

I think this is about as close as I'll get just messing with the tree texture itself

(for myself: brightness -80, contrast -30, hue -30, saturation 115, lightness -20)

[frail radish]

Looks a hell of a lot nicer than stock (in this lighting at least) that's for sure haha

[burnt valve]

this is a little less perfect...

the grass textures are tough too, they don't work the way I thought they would

but I stopped real quick with those to look at trees

[frail radish]

Is a simple swap with the equivalent p4ps2 textures not enough? I remember when I tried it looked pretty darn close

[burnt valve]

no, the models are different

oh wait grass not trees

[frail radish]

Yeah no obviously that won't work for the trees lol

[burnt valve]

uh i havent done enough messing around but I think the way lighting is handled for the grass might be different

also I was struggling to find which grass textures I should replace

[frail radish]

Fair enough

The only real way for direct swaps anyways I find is just the texture name since a good amount have the same ones between p4 and p4g

[burnt valve]

yeah its just that p4g has two locations for field textures

is annoying

field/model and field/rmd

[frail radish]

True...

[burnt valve]

and every so often (aka right now) my game goes through this pattern where it crashes 5-10 times on/near boot

the dotnet crashes have been really fucking with my workflow here

[frail radish]

😭

[burnt valve]

its made debug menu's crash tendencies worse lol

[frail radish]

Hopefully that patch they did for it gets pushed to a new release sooner than later,,,

[burnt valve]

yeah...

this tree texture looks a little closer and frankly I don't want to spend more time on it rn
(if anyone wants to mess with it, go ahead)

brightness -95, hue -30, saturation 140, lightness -20

now to move onto grass...

actually that's a lie i have a few more tree textures to do

bc for some reason these trees are just greener

p4g boot up normally challenge (impossible)

i think this is acceptable texture wise but also what is going on with the tree models
brightness -73, contrast -60, hue -20, saturation 130, lightness -15

is it perfect? no but it's good enough for now i think

[frail radish]

without being able to just transplant the original tree models/textures good enough really is the target to aim for haha 😅

if only it was as simple as a texture swap but alas atlus had to change just enough so that wouldn't work :'3

[burnt valve]

yeahhhh

next up I'll do the autumn trees and then I'll suffer with grass I guess

[quasi igloo]

this looks good!

[burnt valve]

I also need to adjust these ENVs more again I think they're slightly too bright
brightness -70, contrast -25, hue 5, saturation 130, lightness -15
brightness -50, contrast -50, hue -10, saturation 100

[red root]

what image editor you using btw

[burnt valve]

pdn

[burnt valve]

anyone know where this texture is? im struggling so hard to find it

yeah there is but it loads all textures for all fields regardless of weather

there's so much to search through 💀

other than that hey look the grass looks slightly less weird here

[tacit viper]

not related to the grass but was the darker part of the trees always that dark or does the env change just make it stand out more

[burnt valve]

this is the original texture

[tacit viper]

oh

fulbright tree 😭

[burnt valve]

ok this fucks with other fields unfortunately so i have to revert this change lol

[burnt valve]

i think the only way to deal with the grass will take too much effort to be worth it for this patch

I'd have to change all the ENVs for this field and then change the textures i think

pain

i think im done with this for today lmao

[low meadow]

we should ask wxnder if they can test out p4 ps2 grass in p4g

i know we had them test the trees and saw it was not gonna work

but i don't think grass was attempted

the lower contrast on the trees already looks leagues better

[burnt valve]

I tested it myself. the lighting is the problem, it's handled differently in p4g

[low meadow]

[proud cave]

Does this mod cause the blurry texture in one of the fields?

talking about this specifically

ig thats sidewalk or something

looks like this in vanilla

time to fast forward to this part

with mod on

with it off

also seen here

[desert meteor]

This has been known iirc

[proud cave]

i see

well it pops up like,

3 times in the game

so its not a big deal

[burnt valve]

yeah that's known, something went wrong during the power line import unfortunately

max did that so that's something he should probably look into instead but I think he's busy rn

[burnt valve]

I've finally done a change I've been meaning to make for a while: skybox textures are named appropriately according to the primary field they're used in. no more guessing (on my end) what "rain3" corresponds to, now it's rain_008_001
unfortunately it doesn't rly do anything useful with the mod rn but it should make future skybox work a little easier

[burnt valve]

i hate skyboxes

[low meadow]

fullbright mountains

[burnt valve]

it's supposed to do this, not be dark lol

[burnt valve]

that's fog, I can reduce that if I wanted

example

[low meadow]

the one you posted above seems more accurate
clouds do get darker when the sun is setting

[burnt valve]

yeah, the goal is to be closer to p4 though

plus i think rn this looks like a little too much lol

it just looks worse with increased fog tbh

[low meadow]

i think it looks quite beautiful tbh.........

[burnt valve]

well, I do have another option for a skybox that might work better

there's some funky stuff going on with the cloud texture bc rn it's all white too and the bg is all white yet this is how it appears ingame

[low meadow]

does the game think it's an alpha layer or something

try to hue shift the clouds to be slightly grayer than just white

[burnt valve]

i do have another option i will try if my testing here is inconclusive

doesnt look any better with gray clouds though

so i think it's time to try that option

shame i was hoping to do copy paste

up to this point, I have been using P4G's cloudy skybox

I will now pull out the sunny day skybox

[low meadow]

[low meadow]

if all else fails your attempt here is the best one i've seen and i think people would understand :3

[burnt valve]

I would rather just cut the clouds entirely if I have no other choice to be honest

but I think this will be ok

[low meadow]

p4fr subtitle:

-# now with accurate sunset cloud colors!

[burnt valve]

here we go

we might be cooking

ok maybe we are not cooking

[low meadow]

me when i wake up

[burnt valve]

i did an all white background and yeah.... 😔 this is indeed a problem

[low meadow]

it's auto-darkening

[burnt valve]

thank you for your astute observation

[low meadow]

does it keep trying to do the auto darken no matter the color? like what if you tried an all orange skybox

[burnt valve]

i mean this is certainly more acceptable

hmmm actually I have an idea

[low meadow]

what did you change?

[burnt valve]

it seems the transparency might be handled in the GMS?

or... something?

maybe not the transparency, but...

[burnt valve]

@flat dagger I'm trying to mess with skyboxes here. if I use sky_sphere_B, it gets me this result (2nd pic; 1st pic is before applying cloud texture) even though my skybox cloud texture is all white (3rd pic). it seems like it auto darkens or something.

this darkening effect is not as pronounced with sky_sphere_A (two above images with the green and "white" backgrounds), even though it's still somewhat there. does the GMS control the lighting of the texture in any way?

[burnt valve]

(alternatively if you know how to open sky_sphere_A and compile it without it breaking itself like this, I would take that too...)

[flat dagger]

can you send screenshot of the material

[burnt valve]

as soon as i find it

i think this is it? this is for A

this is for B

[flat dagger]

hmm those are pretty gray

the diffuse and ambient values

fuck with diffuse and ambient

maybe set it all to 1 lmao

[burnt valve]

sure lol why not

hmm that didnt do it...

looks no different ngl...

what happens if i go to 0

nope... no difference

i dont understand this... 😭

going back to sky sphere A causes its own problems (and it's still darker lol)

((but not as dark!))

[flat dagger]

oh wait

are these clouds animated

[burnt valve]

uh they just slowly move

so yes?

kinda?

[flat dagger]

does mesh move, or material anim

[burnt valve]

uh...

i... think the latter?

[flat dagger]

send gms

[burnt valve]

have your pick but A is kinda weird so maybe look at B

[burnt valve]

A looks like this if you take the AMD directly from P4G files and put into GMOView. after decompiling and recompiling it looks more like the pic above that, and it reflects that appearance ingame too, so im guessing there's some weirdness there

[flat dagger]

are you using gmoconv or sadoiya

ok well its mat anims but its not lighting

[burnt valve]

sadoaiya

should I be trying gmoconv

[flat dagger]

cant hurt

if you still have my fork of sadoiya you can try that too

[burnt valve]

no I ate it sorry 😔

your fork gave me a few issues when it came to decompiling when I tried it for animated cut-ins so I switched back. maybe it'll work better here though?

(issues = it threw errors and in fact did not decompile)

[flat dagger]

well that might be a skill issue

i dont see any vertex colors on this

it might not be keeping your materials when compiling maybe....

[burnt valve]

this is so sad....

I wonder why things are different with sky sphere A then

I would think if it's not keeping my materials then using A/B would not matter

actually I am editing a different texture with A.

so A has cloud textures but the problem is, using my methods of decompiling and recompiling, they don't show at all in-game, despite showing in GMOView

with that one, I'm technically editing the sky color texture

[burnt valve]

you tell me what this means 😭

[burnt valve]

IT WAS FAR MORE SIMPLE THAN THAT

this was what i was missing

we are so back

i should have seen that earlier i'm upset with myself lol

I was worried I'd have to do some bullshit with GMOConv or something instead of being able to use Sadoaiya but whew

it is supposed to look roughly like this for context. so I have work to do but this is just the normal skybox work, not the "wtf is going on why is everything dark" problem

anyways: I'm going to bed... no more suffering for today

the grind will probably resume tomorrow

[low meadow]

it's always the simple things that elude us

[burnt valve]

something I wanted to do for this update was add more config menu options too. it's just slightly tedious but it shouldn't take me more than a day or so.

meovv already requested I add more specific locations to the config. some other ones I could potentially add are weather/time of day toggles but I worry that getting too in the weeds with those will make the config really annoying to browse through. any thoughts?

(there's also areas that are only seen a couple of times, skyboxes, etc, so there's a lot of room for potential customization but I don't think all of it is necessary)

the different ideas I had so far:

• detailed location and maybe a universal December fog toggle
• detailed location, universal weather toggles
• detailed location, per location weather toggles

(weather in this case includes time of day)

[burnt valve]

maybe but it requires coding experience i probably do not have

I also personally don't see the point in locking some stuff out of the R2 config - the R2 config is already stored in a file so you can already look through, and I would rather just have everything in the R2 config than only some stuff

really I wish there was like more customization with R2's configs but

[astral fiber]

if only there was an easy to use ini config system 👀 cough https://github.com/RyoTune/RyoTune.Reloaded/ cough

[burnt valve]

that's crazy, you should fix Ryo framework btw

[round rock]

ryo

i'll only fix it if you agree p3r is the best p3

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#music & voices silent; tested disabling mods, issue seems to come from ryo or bgme framework

[burnt valve]

I'll consider this though. some of this does seem useful

[burnt valve]

mod developer holding mod hostage and blackmailing users in order to get it fixed? 🤔

hey, that sounds familiar-

[astral fiber]

i can also be bribed

https://tenor.com/view/ryo-yamada-ryo-bocchi-bocchi-the-rock-money-gif-5209333509129000675

[burnt valve]

fix your mod and you won't be referred to as ryoQ from now on

:3

[astral fiber]

admit p3r is the best p3

[burnt valve]

if I did I would be lying

[astral fiber]

you'd just be finally taking off your nostalgia goggles

[burnt valve]

I played all these games only a few years ago fym nostalgia goggles 😭😭

trust me I wish I could say that and believe it lmao but here we are

[finite spire]

I played fes in 2010

Yeah I'm old

[astral fiber]

you can still be nostalgic

[burnt valve]

yeah but in this case I'm not gonna gas up mid sooooo

[burnt valve]

I'm sorry

[astral fiber]

it's p3p ryover

[finite spire]

Wdym sorry I got into it without anyone saying I suck ass

It was awesome

[burnt valve]

sorry for being a persona fan for so long :p

[burnt valve]

i actually prefer P3P over reload but perhaps the world isn't ready for that conversation yet lol

with that said, P4G clears everything else so it doesn't really matter anyways

😎

I'll probably move to p3r after finishing up my P4G mods; it'll be decent practice for P4R I think...

[cursive cosmos]

P4RE Fog Restoration boutta be wild

Funnily enough, since it's more than likely running on Unreal Engine, it'll probably be easier to do too

[burnt valve]

have to learn UE, that's the big barrier lol

one of the big reasons I might've modded P3R is to fix some of the awful writing in that game, but through helping the FEMC reloaded team I've come to learn that writing is CBT

that's why none of my mods have substantial writing changes you need like a whole team for that stuff

[astral fiber]

what mods of yours would warrant writing changes 🤔

actually what writing changes has femc done, event stuff is still wip iirc

[burnt valve]

none bc I avoid mods with writing changes for the most part haha

[burnt valve]

it's exactly that. there's progress being made on the event stuff itself but the writing is one of those things that needed to be figured out beforehand to have an outline for the events

(obviously)

idk how vocal I've been about this but I really do not like a lot of the writing changes in P3R. it was actually a discussion that had come up with the FEMC events bc several people there feel the same way but ultimately it's a lot of work to change everything

also there's the issue of, hey it's kinda going beyond the scope of FEMC mod at a certain point. like at first it was like, hey, we want to preserve a lot of the character dynamics present in P3P, but that's just fundamentally incompatible with a lot of the stuff in P3R

also also, it is far easier to simply criticize something that already exists than it is to also rewrite it lol

[flat dagger]

Well if you do want to get into writing for p3r and use a more traditional script (like stageplay script) format, I made a program the text team has been using to easily generate msgs from that

Which cuts alot of time off the workload

[burnt valve]

I'll probably ask about it if I help the text team more actively

I was mainly talking about it from a purely writing perspective

[tacit viper]

i mean its like you kinda said in the femc server
some of the new events are cool stuff in theory but then in practice makes the story fall flatter

trying to maintain the new stuff without having it affect the story feels very difficult at least to me

[hearty fossil]

oh my god

most based brawler take to date

the tool mudkip is talking about is somewhere in the server pinned i think

[tacit viper]

in one of the peak secret channels

[burnt valve]

wowwww

there are more clouds here but that's bc the mountains are shorter so. whatever

[low meadow]

are you snatching any skyboxes from p4

[burnt valve]

i am yea

[frail radish]

P4 mountain restoration wen /j

[low meadow]

we have power line restoration that’s all we need :3

[burnt valve]

restores the power lines but fucks up part of the road

😔

[low meadow]

that is max mudkip’s fault :3

[burnt valve]

i should tag him to fix it

but rn im trying to figure out what cloud texture this is

[low meadow]

cotton candy

[burnt valve]

it does NOT look like this so ???

[low meadow]

actually

yes it does

it’s just mirrored

and squished horizontally

[burnt valve]

is that so

[low meadow]

maybe it’s slightly different but it’s close

[burnt valve]

if you see the resemblance i believe you bc this is the one in f006_014

but

[low meadow]

that large cloud is almost 1:1

[burnt valve]

can you like point it out to me 😭

[low meadow]

i’m out rn and on my phone

but if you mirror that cloud tex you sent and overlay it a bit you’ll see it

[burnt valve]

looks like it's only using the bottom half of the tex anyways

[low meadow]

how odd

[burnt valve]

i still do not see the texture ngl </3

ok wait i lied

i think ive got it lol

should i remove the sunrays...

[tacit viper]

no......

[red root]

intensify them ofc

[quasi igloo]

the sunrays are good

[low meadow]

ok i'm finally home

do you wanna know how i knew those cloud textures were similar right off the bat? lol

[burnt valve]

sure

im curious

[low meadow]

(i added a black layer to the cloud texture one so people on light mode can see it)

the cloud i circled in both is identical

and if you shape the clouds off to the left at an angle it matches the p4 skybox

i assume the skyboxes in p4/g are made of flat planes shaped like a sphere so some distortion happens to the texture

[burnt valve]

correct

yeah i just didnt spot that cloud rly

[low meadow]

my eyes spot everything

except main details

lol

friends will send me pics of stuff either as a selfie or just of something they want to show me (like a pc) and i will ask about things in the background before actually looking at the subject of the picture

[burnt valve]

i have finished the skyboxes for all school fields

yayyyyy

(this means the school late day sunny fields are done to my understanding)

[desert meteor]

noice

[burnt valve]

sorry i'll actually send pics this time lol

hoping the other ones will go a bit faster but skybox stuff is just always slow in general

one more

[desert meteor]

Oh yeah those looks really nice

[burnt valve]

stock p4g for comparison

i thought the rooftop in p4g was just more yellow but upon looking at it it seems like there's a bit of kiwami there...

in any case i prefer the p4 ones but the p4g ones aren't so bad here

just the interior lighting is fucked

it's probably also noticeable that I use lower res cloud textures

this is a field where using the stock P4G one wouldn't be so bad tbh

[low meadow]

wow the p4 ver has a piss filter over the sky

[burnt valve]

that's not my plan to be clear lol

[low meadow]

that's incredible

[burnt valve]

huh

[low meadow]

the p4 sky is piss yellow lmao

that cloud tex is also HUGE compared to the one used in p4

oh wait

am i stoopid

i looked at the wrong one

no i was right

that's stock p4g not p4
i just typed wrong and threw myself off 😭

the orange you changed it to looks far better

looks like actual evening time now :3

[burnt valve]

I was very confused for a sec

lol

[cerulean ember]

I feel like the orange sky is pretty in P4G.

[burnt valve]

my goal before release (I'm aiming for July 10th)

• shopping district North, South, shrine
• floodplain 1, 3, 4
• Dojima residence outside, Yu's room
• updated config

anything else skybox wise is a bonus

[low meadow]

don't push yourself if that deadline doesn't work for you

[severe reef]

@burnt valve try making the cloud texture a solid red texture so it will pop out

You can also try loading it in debug mode, or using the Camera Rotation for All Fields mod so you can use free cam

The debug mode is loaded if you load another field twice then load the field you want