Bi Joker mod for P5R

[earnest plover]

hmm, texture fixes isn't it, i'll try ps4 reverts next

[swift plover]

i dont think youll have to disable them altogether, just the specific options relating to bustups
which should be updated bustups in texture fixes config and haru midwinter casual portrait for ps4 reverts

[earnest plover]

Hmm, disabling ps4 reverts didn't work either

hum, i'm turning everything off besides requried dependicies

Yep, still happens, i'll try reordering

nothing, yea this is something out of my control it looks like

[inner lava]

That’s a lot of mods Spyro

[earnest plover]

Surprised? lol

[inner lava]

How’s your storage handling that

[earnest plover]

I got 2 1tb hard drives, and all the mods are 22 gb together

[analog violet]

So I'm confused, does bi joker no longer work at all since the update or does it with some bugs? When I try to play it now it crashes before I get to the main screen.

[swift plover]

it works just with unintended behavior

[analog violet]

totally fine with that lol

wonder why it's not working for me though

your supposed to put it on the very bottom of your mod loader right?

[earnest plover]

It doesn’t matter with the order, it should still work, do other mods work on your game?

[analog violet]

It's all the same mods I had before the upate but no actually, even with gay joker unchecked it'll crash at startup

[earnest plover]

Try reinstalling all of the base mods, something might be missing an update.

Delete them all then run the game to download them

[analog violet]

Here's all my mods just in case you spot any that definitely don't work anymore

[earnest plover]

Not that I can see, try deleting then run gay joker only

[swift plover]

turn off unreal essentials
also why is p3r femc showing up in your p5r mod list

sry forgot about this conversation

@analog violet

[teal nymph]

Does anyone also have sound problems at the school festival?
There's no voiced dialogue (just the generic audio clips used by Yusuke (same for Ryuji's version)) or sounds of applause, but there are occasional menu noises.

[earnest plover]

I can confirm that. It’ll have to be fixed by Alive_Neptuna the author, he’s been on hiatus from social media, he’s back online but it’s unknown if he’ll return to modding.

[teal nymph]

I see, so it's not just me.

[celest sparrow]

Hope things get fixed soon.

[teal nymph]

@earnest plover I managed to fix (or at least get round) the problem of these menu noises during the school festival event!
I noticed that in the game files there is no SOUND.CPK but SOUND_E.CPK and SOUND_J.CPK. So I created a SOUND_J folder in the mod (I use Japanese voices) and transferred the SOUND folder into it. Miraculously, it works: there's the sound of applause but no menu noise!

[earnest plover]

Huh, interesting, I'll have to try that

[swift plover]

the cpk folder names in persona essentials dont actually matter, it should all be merged into the game regardless
it looks like the sound folder is just misplaced altogether. sticking it into one of the existing neighboring folders should do it, no need to make a sound_j folder

[swift plover]

the first file in this screencap doesnt seem to exist at all though, neither in the game nor the mod, so i wouldnt expect full voice acting either way. yall are sure full voices are intended behavior, yeah?

[teal nymph]

My apologies, I tried this just before going to sleep and when I didn't hear the usual menu noise I didn't pay attention to the rest of the event. But I watched it again today and indeed, even with the jap voices selected, the few words you hear in the audience are in English.

The little audio clips of Yusuke and Ryuji are in Japanese though (they must have been taken directly from the game files and not from the mod's ACB, I suppose) and the Post-festival MC is entirely non-voiced for the different versions of the event added by the mod, so that's not a problem.

It's really just the audience that's in English, even if the chosen voices are in Japanese.

[swift plover]

the audience voices i assume are from the second acb, the one with se at the end, which the mod seemingly only has an english copy

[shy furnace]

[AcbPatcherEmulator] No AWB entry for ACB found C:\Users\asdf\Desktop\Reloaded-II\Mods\gay_joker1_2_2_58056\P5REssentials\CPK\SOUND\EVENT\E829_082.ACB, gonna try opening file.
[AcbPatcherEmulator] No AWB entry found C:\Users\asdf\Desktop\Reloaded-II\Mods\gay_joker1_2_2_58056\P5REssentials\CPK\SOUND\EVENT\E829_082.ACB

despite it sayuing this there are actually the acb and awb pairs in that folder

thats why im confused

it does this for ever sound event file

[shy furnace]

what exactly do you mean by "moving it into one of the existing neighboring folders"

move sound deeper into a differnet directory like CPK/MISC EVENTS/SOUND/EVENT ?

[shy furnace]

it is in the mod

[swift plover]

yes

[shy furnace]

okay

also off hand does anyone know the awb key for p5r lol

i uh

yeah

[swift plover]

e748_050 not e748_050_se

[shy furnace]

ohhh

lets see if this works

nope

lol

i dont know why its doing this

if i open it in ACE the awb entrys are there

well i have mods to update so maybe i should do that first

oh

[shy furnace]

(still does not work)

[swift plover]

based on your log it seems to just completely not be binding new awbs on your machine, not just for gay jonkler but in general (the first one in that txt file is for ps4 reverts)

it could be an issue with your reloaded install if other people arent having the same problem
(orphéo said before that moving their sound folder worked, so presumably it works on their machine at least)

[shy furnace]

hmmm

okay

[teal nymph]

I've just found out that there should normally be a phone call at the end of rank 9 if Yusuke is romanced but doesn't get activated in the game.
If anyone knows anything about coding, could they have a look to see why it's not activating, please?

[tall edge]

[AcbPatcherEmulator] No AWB entry for ACB found C:\P5R Mods\Reloaded-II\Mods\p5rpc.BiJoker.events\P5REssentials\CPK\SOUND\EVENT\E829_082.ACB, gonna try opening file.
[AcbPatcherEmulator] No AWB entry found C:\P5R Mods\Reloaded-II\Mods\p5rpc.BiJoker.events\P5REssentials\CPK\SOUND\EVENT\E829_082.ACB
Bind Complete! 778 files, Id: 2, Time: 187ms
[Ryo.Reloaded] [INF] Using custom player config for: 255
Found Window, Hooking WndProc.

any idea how I can fix this? It's stopping me right at the end of the game

[earnest plover]

Blah, I’m sooo bored, I want something new lol

[swift plover]

any updates on alive neptuna?

[earnest plover]

Not really, he’s off and on on Twitter, he did reply to someone having issues with it but that’s it

[swift plover]

i c

[earnest plover]

I don’t really have any way to contact him, I’m just assuming that it’s not in his interest right now

[swift plover]

darn

[earnest plover]

I’d like to think he’s still open in updating bugs but it’s been way too long since

Been over a year

[swift plover]

yeah, i was thinking if hes not likely to update the mod then it might be worth someone reuploading with bugfixes. maybe refactors too if compatibility is an issue
more than that would be too much of a license violation i think but its not like theres missing events or anything, id call the mod feature-complete apart from the bugs

[earnest plover]

Heck, I even can volunteer to make a new one, but I’m no good at writing by myself and I don’t know the basics of making the code haha

[swift plover]

i could probably do it if the adhd doesnt stop me

[earnest plover]

Neptuna has it too lol

[swift plover]

lol

[earnest plover]

I did make a mod for DQ XI for dialog editing to make a character a bit gayer for the main character, though I did use ChatGPT to help with rewriting as I couldn’t find anyone to help with that part, it’s a bit smaller in that community

I’m just afraid if I should even proceed like that if something came up or wait for someone to volunteer since it’s bigger here

Thou I would have to learn how to edit/add scenes first

God, but I like playing the mods, what to do

[swift plover]

well for one you may want to give a read on gb's ai generated content policy

[earnest plover]

“Using AI trained on data from celebrities, online personalities, political figures, or games blacklisted in our Porting Whitelist and Guidelines will result in your submission being trashed.” This I’m unclear on, would this count ChatGPT?

[swift plover]

i dont think gpt training data is public information?

[earnest plover]

As far as I know if I did it which I would count as a last resort, it should be ok as long as I label it as AI, steer clear of any similarities of copyright and general content moderation.

ChatGPT says “It’s a broad LLM trained on a massive public corpus, not a narrowly scoped “Pokémon Texture Diffuser” or “CelebrityVoice-XL.” Because it isn’t purpose-built to rip any single black-listed IP, it’s treated like any other general creative tool.”

[swift plover]

why are you asking chatgpt, a thing that famously gets shit wrong, for information when you can just read search results like people have been doing since the inception of the internet
actual search results not the shitty ai overview that is basically just the same shit

[earnest plover]

I’m sorry if I’m stirring up heat, I just don’t know how to proceed appropriately, searching online doesn’t reveal answers for me, however, perhaps it’s best I don’t proceed with using AI

[swift plover]

gpt, claude, and similar llms dont disclose the specific items in their training data, but its known that theyre trained on basically anything thats publicly available and applicable to their alleged use cases

[earnest plover]

I just wanna help start something, but maybe I’m getting ahead of myself, perhaps I’m not suited to do this

[swift plover]

you could learn flowscript/messagescript and event editing if you really want, claude is probably not gonna be much help for that though lmao

[earnest plover]

I can, just how easy is it to edit/insert scenes?

[swift plover]

text edits arent too bad, flowscript can be easy if youre familiar enough with c (the programming language) but might be a hike to learn otherwise, event editing unfortunately is painful if you use evttool and evtui isnt finished

[earnest plover]

When editing DQ, text files was converted to CSV so unfortunately it may be a long shot

I’m sorry if I bothered you with this

[swift plover]

looking through the mod files, does anyone know what this dll does (if anything)

the mod doesnt have any config options and im not aware of any features that would require c# code (unless theres something jank with unhardcoded romance)

[earnest plover]

Could be related with Unhardcoded actually

[swift plover]

i was under the impression that usage for unhardcoded romance was basically just

1. set it as a dependency
2. in your custom events, toggle the relevant bitflags

if its something thats not of consequence to remove, i might just yeet it...
i was thinking of using remix toolkit to implement a voice language toggle to fix wrong language dub, but if theres actual code then itd prob be better to stick config in there instead

[earnest plover]

If you need testing done at all, I can definitely help

I have save files with the romance flags activated

[swift plover]

id prob just dump it in here for whoever follows this thread to test yeah

[earnest plover]

Cool! 🙂

I wonder if bugfixes were ever done, it would just be published on Nexusmod instead to circumvent the rule

[swift plover]

its a copyright issue, i dont think uploading elsewhere makes it less so
something thats just bugfixes/refactors and not a change to the content proper is allowed to slide though i think

[earnest plover]

Ahhh

[leaden grotto]

Just to check up, the mod is unplayable right now, right? People are commenting about the dates and events with Ryuji and Yusuke not triggering. Is that still the case?

(I only ask, because this mod and the Fem protagonist mod are the only two mods out there that let's the player romance the male characters, and Fem Protagonist is still a w.i.p., and doesn't include any of the dates or christmas events.... So like, there is no alternative. )

[earnest plover]

It is mostly playable from my experience playing with the latest updates. Certain scenes cannot be accessed due to bugs. There is also other bugs but not game breaking. There has been no confirmation Alive_Neptuna will be coming back to fix them.

[leaden grotto]

Is it just one or two scenes, and the rest is fine, or are the bugs cutting out a lot of content from the mod? (I can deal with a few typos or consistency errors here or there, or even like one dropped date (that I can watch on youtube to make up for) but like, if half the dates are missing or aren't able to be accessed, then the mod is basically broken. )

I was under the impression that the mod was like, broken broken.

(Not "will softlock or crash your playthough" - broken, but like "the main content of the mod can't be accessed" - broken.)

[earnest plover]

My documented bug reports are here: https://gamebanana.com/mods/issues/493214

“In original P5 ending, Ryuji's Valentine's date goes to Yusuke's instead.”

“In original P5 ending, all Christmas date options do not work.”

“Ryuji room invite at Arcade is missing”

Those are bugs that block content, there are other noticeable bugs

[earnest plover]

Those are a lot of hearts lmfao

I find it interesting the one working on male romances for the Kasumi Protagainst mod got permission thou, I do wonder if Alive_Neptuna would make a decision to return or not

[swift plover]

yeah i was wondering about that too

[earnest plover]

It would be nice to know because this is a fixable mod, either by returning to edit or releasing creative control to someone in some way

[leaden grotto]

Yeah, I brought it up in the Kasumi as Protagonist mod thread too and we were talking about it a bit. The update wouldn't feel like such a big deal if there were other mods that allowed romance with the guys, but currently it's just this one and Female Protagonist.

[earnest plover]

Did the male romance developer say anything?

[leaden grotto]

@tall fossil Do you think your poking of Neptuna could be recreated, or do you think it was just a fluke chance sighting? lol

[tall fossil]

why? do you need something from them?

they're also not in this server anymore

oh you mean to ask about bugfixes

i could dm them, but the person doing the bug fixes should ask

[leaden grotto]

That makes sense.

[earnest plover]

Yea, just what he wants to do with it, it's just been quite a while haha

[tall fossil]

we shouldn't ask them to update their mod. that is up to them

[earnest plover]

We just don't really know since he first went dark over a year ago

[tall fossil]

he is active now

[earnest plover]

Just not here or at least for Persona modding in general

[leaden grotto]

Also, if they are like, purposefully avoiding the mod scene, I don't want to drag them back into something they don't wanna do.

[tall fossil]

i suppose no one can dm him since he's not in the server, i was only able to dm him because we shared a different mutual server

so maybe i could dm him if none of you can

[earnest plover]

I would've dmed him but i don't have access to messaging for him

[swift plover]

i didnt know how to reach him

[tall fossil]

alright. i said i wouldn't bother him anymore, but i will do so again

this was the extent of our interaction

[earnest plover]

He did reach out to me before for feedback and i responded, after that I couldn't send messages

He's a very nice person, just was overwhelmed at the time, dealing with his life

[tall fossil]

i hope he's alright

[earnest plover]

He posted on Twitter he was realizing he had certain mental health issues and conditions and had to step away, I assume real life got into the way too much in this day and age

[earnest plover]

Use your own discrection but it's appreciated 🙂

[leaden grotto]

oh, friend! don't put yourself in bad faith with him if he doesn't want anyone to reach out. I don't want things to be forced or awkward. (also, if ya'll are using his framework anyway to make the R&V expansion, that's already a huge bonus! That gives people a whole other mod to use. ^_^

[tall fossil]

huh?

[earnest plover]

Yea, I agree, it's just curiousty killed the cat lol, it's just a question which he has the right to respond to or not

[tall fossil]

sorry it's mostly just my own social anxiety. i'm scard of offending people...

[earnest plover]

In other words, we thank you for reaching out

[tall fossil]

ah

i was confused by the discretion part

[earnest plover]

Nah, calling Ryuji a monkey can be offensive, sometimes...

[leaden grotto]

Oh, I totally get that. I'm an introvert who had to teach myself to be extraverted for my career. but even still, the social anxiety can overwhelm me away from approaching conversations if my social battery isn't fully charged and ready to go.

[leaden grotto]

Don't talk about my (pending on mod availablity) boyfriend like that!

[earnest plover]

I get anxious too, I tell myself to go ahead anyway because what's the worst thing that could happen?

[earnest plover]

Hey, he's all our boyfriends lol

[tall fossil]

eheh

maybe i should make my own project thread

[earnest plover]

oh?

[tall fossil]

i've just been kind of dancing around other people's

[earnest plover]

What do you have in mind?

[tall fossil]

oh no i meant for rose and violet male romance

[earnest plover]

Oh lol, it would clear up discussion, I would be up for feedback as well

[leaden grotto]

I'll comment in it and talk so it won't be empty and lonely. ^_^

[tall fossil]

lolol

[leaden grotto]

but I'll have to hold out for a bit while I go make/eat dinner first. lol.

[tall fossil]

https://discord.com/channels/746211612981198989/1404649515956441088

[tall fossil]

anyone here know how to get in constact with lizardteeth, the bustup creator for this mod?

i tried messaging them through gb but haven't gotten a response

[tall fossil]

nevermind i got a response!

[tall fossil]

maybe i'm just magic

[earnest plover]

Did Neptuna ever reply?

[tall fossil]

oh i never messaged him uhh

what exactly did you want me to tell him again?

[earnest plover]

Oh haha, no worries, if he ever plans to head back to modding his mod or have others work on it for him

[tall fossil]

i'll ask him if we can fix it up for him

while looking through the events, they're very, VERY glitchy

but idk how to fix them myself

they were made before evtui came out so i don't blame him for the errors

[earnest plover]

They are, the mod is such a gem thou, it deserves to get polished at least

[tall fossil]

i agree

i can also give the edited bitflag files since iwent through and changed them all to the new ones

that way unhardcoded romance's creator can get rid of that compatibility layer...

i suppose it would be a good idea to move the message and script files to bmd and bf emulation

[earnest plover]

I kinda wonder if you can create custom hangout dates in other locations

[tall fossil]

alright, message sent

he also never added dates for mishima? i think

or was it another character

[tall fossil]

that would probably be hard but as long as the field exists it's not impossible

[earnest plover]

No dates for Mishima

[tall fossil]

yeah so that's another thing

[earnest plover]

No date at home either

[tall fossil]

i'd love to contribute but i'm a beginner at event editing... but i can def help with other files

i can do basic event editing i.e. fixing up missing responses

there's a lot of instances where the wrong ones play

also some of the event files were corrupted. i couldn't plug them into evtui

the person who altered the bytes said it was likely an evttable compile error

they play fine in game but won't work with any tools

so someone knowledgeable in deep file editing would have to find the incorrect bytes and fix them

[feral cedar]

whats the difference between this and gay joker?

[green quail]

Pretty sure it's the same thing...? correct me if im wrong though

[tall fossil]

same mod

[torpid comet]

I need help

the dialogues for any romance mod i download aren't appearing

with gay joker mod and female protagonist mod

it's basically just skipping it after ranking up the confidant. It's saying "I should choose my words carefully" then skips the whole part

[tall fossil]

did you put the mod below any other text edit mods you have? also go to #1045463162452987924 next time

[torpid comet]

oh ok i didn't know that's where I was supposed to ask lol. thank you!

i don't think i have any other text edit mods

does the pronouns one count?

[tall fossil]

yes it does

[torpid comet]

I asked in p5 help. They said unhardcoded romance was broken.

[tall fossil]

seriously? again?

it's worked for me...

[torpid comet]

why isn't it working for me...

[tall fossil]

could be that fem Joker and gay joker both use the old bitflags, but uhr is supposed to have a compatability layer for them

[torpid comet]

might be the bitflags tbh

[leaden grotto]

The She/Her Pronouns mod and the Gay Joker mod don't work with Female Protagonist. The social link edits will block the Fem Protagonist mod from initiating the romance flags. If you want to romance the guys, your only option right now is playing Fem Protagonist without any other story/dialogue edit mods. You CAN use Kasumi as Protagonist over it if you just want to change the models, but that's about it. Fem Protagonist is a HUGE mod that touches just about everything in the game. (the same reason most mods don't play nice with Rose & Violet either, btw.)

I know it really sucks, but right now, this mod is borked up, so Fem Protagonist is our only option for male social links. (and they aren't finished yet.)

BUT, Raven IS currently working on a supplement mod adding the male romance routes into Rose & Violet, so that's on the horizon.

[torpid comet]

Yeah I deleted the gay joker mod.

It might be the pronouns messing with it.

[torpid comet]

Would the 2nd person narration work or anything that would mess with pronouns not work?

[leaden grotto]

I'm honestly not too sure. I'd imagine anything that touches dialogue would be an issue. I was actually using She/Her along with Fem Protagonist and it was working well for all the main story dialogue (that Fem Protagonist hasn't edited yet) , but I didn't actually play up to the romance flag to see if it caused issues. I just abandoned ship when other people reported they were having issues and conflicts. Figured I'd hold out for the in-development mods to do their thing, and I started playing FeMc in P3P while I wait. lol.

not that it will cure the actual written text discrepancy, but there IS a "Female pronouns VA" mod that changes the voiced lines to use she/her, without changing the written dialogue. ....THAT one would probably work with Fem Protagonist out of the box, becase Fem Protag doesn't touch the voice lines. Give me a sec and I'll see if I can find the link for you.

---- ----- ----> it's the "Female Audio" mod. https://gamebanana.com/sounds/77717

[leaden grotto]

Reloaded II is also pretty easy with enabling/disabling mods.... so you might honestly be able to get away with playing with Fem protag and She/her together up until you initiate the social link, save, and then disable She/her temporarily, to avoid the conflict spot, and then re-enable it afterword? Don't know if that would work, but it would be my guess for a best bet.

(((also, sorry for overloading you with responses. lol. It just kinda sounds like you're going down the same rabbit hole I went down about a month ago. The promise of Ryuji dates sent me all the way to wonderland, and then told me "welp, not yet. come back later." lol.)))

[torpid comet]

oh i got it to work

thank you!

[leaden grotto]

If you're interested in Ryuji, @tall fossil just released the first version of their "male romance" add on for the Rose and Violet story overhaul today. (which automatically adds in it's own she/her pronoun edits as part of the script overhaul.) They used the Gay/Bi Joker mod as a framework, and currently have only the Ryuji path finished. The mod cocktail for that setup would be - Kasumi as Protagonist (and all of it's dependents/ optional addons) --> Rose and Violet Story Overhaul --> Rose and Violet Male Romance. And since they are all designed to work together, you won't have to worry about running into conflicts. Here's a link to the R&V Male Romance mod:
https://gamebanana.com/mods/617413

[tall fossil]

don't forget force custom protagonist name and sumire overhaul

and thanks for the promo

[late ridge]

Hell yeah

[shy furnace]

i mean technically you could just recreate the events(?)

[real trellis]

Did Neptuna ever respond on if others can keep working on the mod?

[tall fossil]

nope

[atomic igloo]

May put this on follow as keeping an update look out for this one, as a friend of mine uses this mod to romance Ryuji as Joker 👌

[tall fossil]

sadly can't do much without permission from the og author...

[atomic igloo]

Ripp

[rare path]

is this mod not considered to be abandoned?

jw

[tall fossil]

yes

[atomic igloo]

🪦

[tall fossil]

as long as the og mod author does not give us permission we can't do anything. so yes, abandoned by the original mod author

me and oceanstuck are interested though

[earnest plover]

I’m surprised Neptuna never got back to you

[swift plover]

iirc gb lets slight maintenance changes slide but the overall substance should be the same

[tall fossil]

i can ask again

i'd honestly just fix the bugs

there's a lot of random evt issues too

[swift plover]

tbh before this one existed i kinda wanted to make one
but adhd lmao

[tall fossil]

oh yeah and change the bitflags to the new ones

i mean no one said you can't make your own lmao

[swift plover]

yeah ive thought about it lol

[rare path]

i dont see why you cant just upload a fix here instead of hosting it on gb

[tall fossil]

the licence

[swift plover]

id want it on gb so people can actually find it

[tall fossil]

even posting it here would be distribution

i'll ask neptuna again

[rare path]

sorry i only have much mod making experience with the sims so im not totally familiar with gb policies

[tall fossil]

it's not necessarily gb

it's the default creative commons licence

[rare path]

most mods irrc dont apply to that as they modify existing files provided by games

[swift plover]

if you dont explicitly set a license gb defaults to cc-by-nc-nd

nd being no derivatives ie. cant fork

[tall fossil]

you can set your own default licence in the user dahsboard though

[rare path]

ah

[earnest plover]

Oh yea, there were going to be certain scenes altered if there was a romance flag set

Beach scenes and stuff

[tall fossil]

mine is cc-by-nc-sa

[swift plover]

same

[rare path]

;-;

[tall fossil]

sounds like a pain in the ass tbh

even zylvos didn't change the beach scene in hawaii lmao

[rare path]

probably why its not in the original game lol

[earnest plover]

“Future add-ons:

Since this is still in development, there will be things added in the future and/or changed. To list a few things I will be doing:
Going to be looking for someone to make new animations for romance dates
Story elements, like the guys looking for girls on the beach, will be changed slightly”

[swift plover]

i want people to be able to fix my shit without breaking copyright law if im not around to do it

[tall fossil]

people always want more dialogue for romances, but bitflags are such a fucking pain

[rare path]

the evil bitflags...

[tall fossil]

you have to edit three seperate files

[rare path]

this is why i havent learned to code yet

so scary

[tall fossil]

tbh you don't have to know any code to fuck around with bitflags

they're a simple else if statement

but imagine putting in the else if statement for every single piece of dialogue

[rare path]

like the yandere simulator guy

[swift plover]

its not hard just a large workload, ultimately youre just checking cases

[tall fossil]

unfortunately no switch statements to my knowledge in atlus flowscript

[swift plover]

you can do switch cases

[tall fossil]

like i said it's not hard just annoying as fuck

[swift plover]

they look like ass if you decompile a flow made with them but you can do them

[tall fossil]

maybe we could use them for bulk romance dialogue in story events

i mean. they did it... once. once

the marriage scene after shido

[swift plover]

oh

[tall fossil]

fixed lmao

[swift plover]

you edited

[tall fossil]

i wanna look at that event and see the giant string of else if statements

mind you for one piece of dialogue

[rare path]

wow

[earnest plover]

Now that I think about it, Joker finding Ryuji in || Maruki’s reality || would be very sad

[rare path]

more code = better

[earnest plover]

In his ||reality, there’s no reason they would build their friendship in the first place||

[swift plover]

i feel like you should tag more of that sentence tbh

[leaden grotto]

I'd love to learn script editing. And honestly, I'd have broken into dabbling more into Persona 5 modding if I had actually played through the whole game and knew what I wanted to change. lol. Modding without actually playing the game is a bad habit of mine. (I'm looking at you, Stardew Valley). But I actually WANT to play through Persona. .....I just cant make it through ten minutes without my ADHD modding brain wanting to tweak something.

[swift plover]

if ur gonna bother tagging it

[tall fossil]

tbf i guess it's mostly just
if btck(bitflag)=1
play msg (or whatever the command is)
else
return;

[rare path]

my eye twitches and i have to close the game lol

[swift plover]

u dont even need the else if youre not actually gonna put anything in it

[tall fossil]

really?

[swift plover]

yea

[tall fossil]

lmao either the compiler or atlus doesn't know that lol

[rare path]

they get paid per line of code T-T

[swift plover]

probably lmao

[tall fossil]

yeah

lmao

[earnest plover]

|| I wonder if making him more reactive would be appropriate (ignoring the technical aspect of it of course)||

[tall fossil]

how do you program that in the evt?

is it like reference local data

[swift plover]

to be clear, return is an actual behavior. it will just immediately stop execution of that procedure
which is still pointless if its gonna return after the else anyway and actively undesired if you want to continue execution

[tall fossil]

oh wait so can you just chain if statements together

[swift plover]

yea

[tall fossil]

ok that makes things easier

why in the world does it look so fucked in the vanilla script then

[swift plover]

either decompiler being funny or atlus moment

if the original flow was a switch statement then the former

[tall fossil]

lemme find an example

ok this one looks fine

[swift plover]

this made me remember i was gonna write a flowscript guide for swines modding docs

[tall fossil]

heh

found one

[rare path]

ruh roh

[tall fossil]

woah that did not block correctly

discord moment

[swift plover]

i hate that but it is probably the way to do it unfortunately
realistically if i was writing it id use the enter key to make it easier to read but i assume this is a decompilation

[tall fossil]

good fucking lord

yandere simulator core

[rare path]

lol

[tall fossil]

mind you i think neptuna removed the else return;

in vanilla i think they'd still have that there

[rare path]

[tall fossil]

var1= var1 +1
what

[rare path]

that dont sound right...

[swift plover]

+= is not a thing in flow i think

[tall fossil]

i see it all the time tho

[swift plover]

you could proooobably optimize this into a for loop though its a little annoying since the confidant ids you need to check arent contiguous

[tall fossil]

just say var1 = 1 what the fuck is this

[swift plover]

no

[tall fossil]

that always confused me

[swift plover]

var1 = var1 + 1 increments var1
var1 = 1 sets it to 1

[tall fossil]

the get confidant level seem to be different all the time

[swift plover]

completely different behavior

[tall fossil]

oh

i think the numbers in () are the condfidant id?

[swift plover]

although it does make me wonder what the final bit_on at the end is doing if it only runs when var1 == 1

[swift plover]

they are

[tall fossil]

this is the cheating event

and after that there's a very complicated procedure i don't understand

all i did was switch the bitlfags. i didn't dare touch it

[swift plover]

bitlfags

[tall fossil]

bitl

oh shit wait

that is

a very unfortunate typo

[rare path]

mmmm bitl

[tall fossil]

y'all

[cosmic oasis]

THE GAYS WIN ONCE AGAIN

https://tenor.com/view/tozakidh-gif-18987674

[atomic igloo]

Sounds like Bi Joker Mod & Male Romance Options for Kasumi/Rose can continue as long as they're credited lol

[tall fossil]

yep

[tall fossil]

tbf I already had permission for r&v male romance but yeah

[earnest plover]

Congratulations Raven, the torch has been passed to you 🙂

[tall fossil]

no pressure

alright CALLING ALL BUG REPORTS everyone list every bug you've had with the mod

[swift plover]

https://gamebanana.com/mods/issues/493214

[tall fossil]

this one will be fun

a lot of these have to do with the way neptuna set up the files i think

instead of base.cpk, en.cpk, etc. they're seperated and it can cause these issues i think

idk why people are saying it's crashing their game tho...

[swift plover]

false, the cpk folders in P5REssentials completely dont matter
all of them will be loaded in always

the name of the folder is completely irrelevant

[tall fossil]

i had the issue with the menu sounds in my mod and the problem was the file directories

could be one of the event awb's is missing though

[swift plover]

again, not the cpk folders, the paths were just straight up wrong

[tall fossil]

idk what else could cause the "dialogue being mixed" other than a mod incompatability

[swift plover]

this folder needs to be in another folder

[tall fossil]

yep that's what i thought

this is a very ocd nitpick but i'm gonna rename "misc events" to just "misc" bc it has more than events in there

i'm gonna copy over my bf emulator schedulers

[swift plover]

tbh "text is mixed" is too vague to be a useful bug report

[tall fossil]

yeah i suspect this person just had another text edit mod

should i make a whole new mod id or just "fork" the existing one?

i'll have to change the gb update support meaning existing users won't be prompted for an update

[swift plover]

i think if you use same mod id then people who had the original will be prompted to "update" to the new one

[tall fossil]

even if the gb page is changed?

[swift plover]

you would have to change the page id in the update data

[tall fossil]

yeah that's what i meant

[earnest plover]

I had issues where the game would crash when pressing up when the game cursor was at Status in the menu, but that was fixed with the Unhardcoded update to 1.04

[tall fossil]

ah i see

so unhardcoded romance fixed the crashes. good to know

i'm gonna have to ask unhardcoded romance dev to disable the compatability patch for gay joker

[earnest plover]

I can’t really think of other issues then what I reported on the bug page

[swift plover]

tbh i feel like changing the flags now would probably cause issues with saves for people who already did the romances

i guess you could have it automatically change to the new flag if they boot with the updated version but idk if thatd cause any weird behavior

[tall fossil]

ugh good point

[earnest plover]

Yea, unhardcoded made it possible for relationships to be reflected in the confidant menu

[tall fossil]

i'd have to ask the unhardcoded romance dev to do that i think

OH

i have a good idea

[swift plover]

i was thinking like, sticking a thing in flowscript thatll run before the flag needs to actually be checked

not sure whatd the best place to put it would be though

[tall fossil]

i'll make a flowscript file that does bitchk then disables that flag and changes it

i'd have to put it in a flwoscript file that loads save data

[maiden fractal]

You could change the checks to look at both flags, no?

[tall fossil]

i very well could

but problem with that is the old flag does not function anymore

[swift plover]

for like flowscript stuff yeah, not menu hearts though i think

[maiden fractal]

In that case, aren't folks who used the old version going to be dealing with bugs regardless?

[tall fossil]

yes

[maiden fractal]

But I guess if the check to set the new flag is in a centralized enough place, that'd be good enough.

[tall fossil]

but what ocean is saying is that the existing save files will not have the new bitflag triggered

ideally, it checks bitflags upon loading the save data

[swift plover]

tbh i dont think theres any harm leaving it other than the inconvenience of having to make sure unhardcoded romance config is correct

[tall fossil]

it's to future proof it, really

[swift plover]

(tbh it should really just check enabled mods instead of using a config option that the user has to manually change)

[tall fossil]

it does do that, i think

it is a code mod so

[swift plover]

nope

that or this option doesnt actually do anything in which case wtf

[maiden fractal]

Possibly you can just add the check for the old flags before each time you reference the new ones in the flowscript? You may miss a loading screen or two, but that would maximize the chance of fixing it in time for the user not to notice any difference. Then again, that wouldn't be that different than just doing an "or" check of both flags each time....

Unfortunate that there's not really a centralized function to put in the check to convert the flags....

[tall fossil]

there's no flowescript file that runs when you load a save file? does it just... fuck around or something?

[swift plover]

itll run scheduler whenever time passes and a field's fini bf when you enter it

though thats not rly on game load per se

[maiden fractal]

I mean... that sort of centralized thing is in the exe. Even within the scheduler it's after boot, and will usually run a specific function rather than the same one every time.

[tall fossil]

...inaba exe time?

[maiden fractal]

LOL, I mean, that probably would be the most elegant solution.

[tall fossil]

well, i'll try to figure inaba out

but aren't the bitflags stored in save data?

[swift plover]

yea

[tall fossil]

it wouldn't be an "on boot" thing right

[maiden fractal]

Oh, right. More like "on save load" rather than on boot.

[swift plover]

yeah i too misspoke

[maiden fractal]

But still, the same issues apply.

[tall fossil]

is the save load in the exe?

[maiden fractal]

The function for loading the save would be, certainly.

[tall fossil]

alright

i'll read inaba's docs and figure it out

[swift plover]

(they could just replace the check for the config with modLoader.GetAppConfig().EnabledMods.Contains("modIdGoesHere"), ive done it before)

[tall fossil]

unhardcoded romance says:
"checks if gay joker or female joker are present and changes accordingly"

it does it automatically. i've seen before it auto changes the config option

[swift plover]

???? where????

[tall fossil]

idk... i was testing my mod and was wondering why it wasn't working so i checked unhardcoded romance and it had set to gay joker at some point when i had that one enabled

and i didn't set it manually

[swift plover]

as an aside morgana being excluded makes me think of the "scooby doo passes the harkness test" cursed observation post

to be clear, mona doesnt pass the test, not because of the cat thing but because psychologically he seems to be about the same "age" as the other pts

[tall fossil]

i always saw morgana as like a 12 year old

[swift plover]

im not 100% sure tbh

but certainly not older than the pts lol

[tall fossil]

my head is exploding already

[rare path]

OH MY GOOOOOOD YESSSSS

IM SO HAPPY :DDDD

[leaden grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-screaming-muppet-kermit-kermit-the-frog-meme-gif-9225198700279694876

[rare path]

now to sit and wait for the update

[tall fossil]

after 3 hours i finally got to analyzing the exe file lmao

[rare path]

u da goat...<3

[tall fossil]

we getting close boys

i found the function that calls save data

1 hour later

https://tenor.com/view/ehe-anime-gif-anime-girl-teehee-gif-27178660

ok now we can actually make the patch. yippeee

[rare path]

https://tenor.com/view/wide-vibe-gif-25771999

LETS FUUUUUUUUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[swift plover]

you should probably back up saves

[tall fossil]

i have 2 test saves dw

and if they corrupt i don't need them

but i'll back up everything just in case

[tall fossil]

oh no i've hit a road block i think

yusuke's old bitflag is 3789, but mishima's new bitflag is 3789

this may have to be a one-time run thing

[swift plover]

ideally it should be one time anyway, its kinda inefficient to do it every time you load that specific save

[tall fossil]

i'll make a seperate mod and name it "existing save patch" or something

[swift plover]

i was thinking maybe like hook some npc or something and you can ask them to unfuck your flags for you

although really i dont think theres a pressing need to change the flags at all

[tall fossil]

lmao you talk to sojiro to fix your mod lol

ok wait i got an idea

ok yeah i was right. forgive me but i asked ai and it says i can set a seperate flag to see if the patch was already executed and prevent itself from creating an infinite loop of bitflag changing

[swift plover]

you coulda just asked me personally

[tall fossil]

💀 yeah i suppose

[swift plover]

it occurs to me that you could just have it run as part of the field init for some field the player is guaranteed to end up in at some point, like leblanc
i was concerned that doing it that way might miss edge cases like epilogue but youd have the same issue with an npc anyway

[tall fossil]

i'd have the same problem i'm having here

i suppose i could do the same thing

grab an unused flag

be like "already done"

i suppose it'd be easier than writing an exe patch and less likely to break the save lol

i did already make this patch tho... i'll test and see if it works

[swift plover]

again, i dont really think theres an advantage to moving the flags at all tbh, unless it turns out one of them is used for some unrelated thing i guess

[rare path]

will the cheat sheet compatibility mod need to be updated as well? jw

[tall fossil]

no

[rare path]

yippie!

[tall fossil]

that just edits text iirc

[rare path]

https://tenor.com/view/chiikawa-chikabu-dance-shake-beetle-gif-7518968101190163651

[tall fossil]

the unhardcoded romance author i think wants everything to be moved to the new bitflags

i think the readme said something like "this will stay until these mods are updated" or something

implying they don't wanna keep the compatability layer

plus future proofing

[swift plover]

what fucking readme, you keep referencing documents ive never seen in my life

[tall fossil]

hold on

[swift plover]

wait

oh the fucking txt file in the mod files

[tall fossil]

yeah lol there's an md there i think

[swift plover]

its not an md its a txt

[tall fossil]

ah

ok nvm i was hallucinating

[swift plover]

i was about to say, it doesnt say the shit you claimed at all

[tall fossil]

me when i lie

you're probably right then. if the need comes in the future i suppose i have a solution

[swift plover]

i didnt know this fucking file existed until two seconds ago

[tall fossil]

lol

most of the info in the readme is on the gb page tbf

i'm sorry for that... i got kind of hyperfocused and sometimes i can be an ass about it

[swift plover]

nbd

[tall fossil]

alright i gotta set the flags back in the scheduler files then

[swift plover]

i am seeing the thing you said about it detecting the mods you have but then shrugged when i asked where, but that still raises the question of why theres a config option
the one guess i have is maybe it was going to be an actual thing that mattered but then cornflakes discovered you could just fetch enabled mods, and the option was just...left there bc its bad practice to fully nuke deprecated config options i think

[tall fossil]

i... see?

well as long as it works lol

[swift plover]

@tall fossil if i just steal rv m/f romance scheduler is there anything i need to yeet thats rv specific

it doesnt look like but i want to be sure

lmao

[swift plover]

why do i have remix config enabled on my local copy of oh right i was gonna make a voice language toggle

[wind knoll]

Loool

[tall fossil]

the bitflags

I have copies of the gay joker version if you want them

also akechi isn't in these

we should make a github repo tbh

most of the events need major touch-ups so I was gonna do that as well

the event files for r&v have mostly been fixed but there's a lot of exclusive stuff in there

zylvos changed the Christmas event a bit, changed ryuji from looking up to looking down since it looked odd with kasumi

[swift plover]

oh yeah the bitflags
lmao

[tall fossil]

when I get home I'll send them

[swift plover]

ajda already made the commit to have evtui clean up borked evts so i assume i could just run the ones i have through it

[tall fossil]

no no i mean the flow files

hold on

and i also didn't mean that. there's some glitchy animations and dialogue is fucked in some cases

here

why is there a dll file in here?

there's no configs inside

wait that's unhardcoded romance's dll

...weird

[swift plover]

i didnt need the entire scheduler, tbh i already grabbed the rv ones and was just gonna edit them, i just needed to know what the flags were lol

[tall fossil]

you need the akechi stuff tho too

so i thought i'd give you everything

i already went through and did it there's no need for you to do it

[swift plover]

i appreciate it, i just was also trying the balls.flow thing again only now its labia.flow and has more readable variable names (and a slight optimization on ryujis rank check)
so it seemed faster to just change the flags in there than to copypaste yours again and remake my other changes lol

the daily function hooks are still useful though, i didnt have those yet

qq, what does this do

obv its some kind of 2/2 edit but im not sure what the modded behavior is

well

i see the check for what i assume is akechis romance flag
but i would expect an else statement since normally theres a different event for not maxing akechi

or

oh, that event is a custom one to the mod
...but then what the hell happens if you dont romance akechi? does the game just shit itself?

wait

oh lol my b, its an extra little thing in the next timeslot after you refuse maruki

yeah that makes more sense lol

are the RANKUP_INVITE_CHAT functions actually called in scheduler_03
you dont exactly have free time during march so it might be worth yeeting the hooks from those if theyre not used anyway

less shit to compile

you cant start mishima or yusuke in april either, and iirc yusuke doesnt open up til june, so the hooks arent needed there either, though i will prob just leave the import in there for the sake of maintainability

[swift plover]

[maiden fractal]

Lmao?? Looks like the frame count got borked.

Also, I like the ourple in the UI....

[swift plover]

morganpurple

i didnt dare save it upon seeing that since i wasnt about to risk breaking it further lolol

[maiden fractal]

Did you open it before and have it not look like that? 🤔

[swift plover]

nop, first time

if i shove it into evttool it looks weirdly lacking in stuff there too

[maiden fractal]

Hm, only the one Scr_ command and nothing else in the EVT?

In the json version, I mean.

[maiden fractal]

Huh. What do the EVTUI logs for it look like?

[swift plover]

im not altogether sure what i should be looking for here, it looks flooded with crap

wait

maybe i should close program first? lol

[maiden fractal]

Bluh, I forgot it looks like this on Windows 🥹 Need to update the Avalonia version in the config....

[swift plover]

hm, no actually closing it didnt change last write time for the log lol

[maiden fractal]

I'll see if I can find anything, but tbh, this event may shrimply be empty 🤷

[swift plover]

thats what i was starting to suspect tbh but also like...why

[maiden fractal]

Is this one already edited for R&V, or directly from Gay Joker?

[swift plover]

directly from gay jonkler

[maiden fractal]

Huh

[swift plover]

i would assume the rv ones are already fixed but idk if they made edits from the gay jonkler base lol

wait this is the id for regular platonic mishima, why is this even fucking here 😭

oh my god
if i open 718_101 the script is for...the platonic rank 10
the romance rank 10 is 718_102

what in the off by one

...

tbh i was debating just shoving them all in one folder to reduce the amount of flipping through file explorer i need to do but uhh base and en are two folders

[swift plover]

oh

[maiden fractal]

Welp....

Which file is this?

[swift plover]

ok i ran all the others through the cleanup though i havent corrected any bmd/bf stuff

i still have fucking homework that i didnt finish yesterday and told myself id work on today so im gonna call that my modding quota for the day

[maiden fractal]

(I'll be GMing all evening and won't be able to look at anything 'til later, anyway.)

[swift plover]

it ok

[tall fossil]

they were in the vanilla files so

[tall fossil]

718_101 was exactly the same as 718_100

Idk why

718_102 was the actual edited one

[swift plover]

afaict they seemed to just stick every non-date function into every scheduler just in case

[tall fossil]

i'm gonna go ahead and edit some of the evt's

one of these is not like the other

[swift plover]

ok i lied, ive found myself staring at the issues tab

• Rank 10 Ryuji doesn't trigger with being in relationship: im not sure what this means, is this about the invite chat issue?
• Audience sounds are bugged; menu sounds are played instead and Mishima Rank 10 Random sounds during dialogue: custom awbs are misplaced, this behavior can happen when game cant find an awb
• Talking to Ryuji by the stairs and selecting any option will play 1st option dialog again.: probably a mistake in ryuji commu bf, would have to decomp and check
• the text is mixed. When I launch the game with mods, the text in some dialogs gets confused.: possibly a compatibility problem but too vague to be sure
• Game crashes when opening the in-game menu. and Opening the ingame menu results in my game crashing.: 1.0.4
• thx: comment sections exist
• When all women and men are romanced, Ryuji, Yusuke, Mishima and Kawakami only appear in Harem scene: is this 'only these 4 appear in the harem event' or is it 'these 4 dont appear in some surrounding event(s)'? i assume the former but im not sure
• [3 separate crash on boot reports]: 1.0.4
• Ryuji's "Invite to Room" not appearing as Hangout Option and Ryuji room invite at Arcade is missing: im guessing a mistake with ryuji commu bf, im not sure
• Hangout aquarium with Yusuke before but dialogue as if it's the 1st time in White Day date.: im guessing aquarium date is not tracked or tracking is bugged?
• White Day date Yusuke says he didn't see Joker on Valentine Day even if date with him the 2/14: same as above but for valentines

• Yusuke: Rank 10 doesn’t trigger despite entering relationship, also no hang out option in room: prob same as "Rank 10 Ryuji doesn't trigger with being in relationship" and "Ryuji's "Invite to Room" not appearing as Hangout Option" but for yusuke
• Wrong voice line used in Akechi's route at the end of his fight and on the dates: given they say wrong voice line instead of no voice line, i assume this is wrong cue id rather than misplaced awb
• In original P5 ending, Ryuji's Valentine's date goes to Yusuke's instead.: probably mistake in selection menu
• In original P5 ending, all Christmas date options do not work.: do not work how
• Random menu sounds during Yusuke festival date and "prestigous" typo: see item 2, also typo where
• There's an empty dialogue box before Joker says I'm in a relationship with Yusuke: event bf mistake probably
• When I tried loading an old save file, the option to romance Ryuji didn't show up after the event.: not enough information, could be user error
• Hawaii male date options not appearing: not enough information
• Only Haru and Yusuke options are available for festival Please contact me -Neptuna -> Twitter DM: idk if this went anywhere but presumably festival event bf has a mistake in the selection
• Japanese audio plays during Mishima's rank 10 romance scene: i have no idea, the only version of this awb is in english

[tall fossil]

holy

[tall fossil]

first one was fixed with the invite chats being added to all schedulers

[tall fossil]

cross that out

[swift plover]

i know the scheduler fix exists, i already stuck it in my local copy
the problem is i couldnt actually tell if the issue report was about that

[tall fossil]

thx: comment sections exist

lmao

[tall fossil]

true

i love when un detailed bug reports are given!

"my game crashes" "it doesn't work"
ok. um

also all of the 1.04 stuff was an unhardcoded romance issue

it works fine on 1.04 now

though it too kthem forever to fix so people still assume it doesn't work lmao

[swift plover]

i am aware

[tall fossil]

i still wonder though why that broke it??

[swift plover]

presumably it does a sigscan to find whatever menu function controls hearts

[tall fossil]

doesn't unhardcoded romance aslo fix the limited romance slots issue?

the reason fem protag was removing romances

[swift plover]

by tying the hearts to flags instead of confidant slots, yes

[tall fossil]

ah ok i get it now

did atlus directly target unhardcoded romance holy shit

[swift plover]

literally every mod that uses sigscans got 1.0.4'd lmfao

[tall fossil]

we love anti-modding updates

[swift plover]

i highly doubt spiting modders was the idea of 1.0.4, given they did not bother to in any earlier updates and the 1.0.4 update does what it says it does (fixing some vanilla game crashes)

[tall fossil]

ah

i'm basically looking for any instances neptuna forgot to add "reference local data" for responses in the evt because there's A LOT

i just can't remember which ones

oh wow 749_011 is bugged to shit

[swift plover]

theres no edits to the platonic events i assume?

[tall fossil]

no the msg_ commands are empty about halfway through

[swift plover]

cus im prob gonna yeet the platonic event dupes if theyre not needed

[tall fossil]

i'm guessing they're empty bc they were added to the platonic event

idk how neptuna forgot to edit the evt though

ok fixed

[swift plover]

(ive already yeeted the inexplicable empty evt at the normal id for mishimas platonic rank 10 because wtf)

does rv romance emulate the corp0XX bfs or are they precompiled

[tall fossil]

compiled

but emulating them wouldn't be a bad idea

actually yeah i'll probably switch them to emulation as long as they can hook into main r&v's corp

[swift plover]

theres also these 2 events with broken bmds, i think because some of the msg functions have wrong number of arguments, so ill have to remember to fix those in persona editor

mightve been a third that i already fixed idr

(the screencap is mostly just so i remember the ids lol)

[tall fossil]

i keep getting this error in the logs for every even and i have no clue why

sound is moved into a cpk folder too

ok 749_011 is just broken

@earnest plover can you link me neptuna's message where he talked about what he planned to add

i can't find it

and i remember you linked me it

[earnest plover]

Hi, it should be on the Main mod page

[tall fossil]

oh pfft

[earnest plover]

"Future add-ons:

Since this is still in development, there will be things added in the future and/or changed. To list a few things I will be doing:
Going to be looking for someone to make new animations for romance dates

Story elements, like the guys looking for girls on the beach, will be changed slightly" https://gamebanana.com/mods/493214

[earnest plover]

Lol, no worries, thinking about this lately?

[tall fossil]

yeah. i'm just thinking i'l leave the bugfixes and stuff to oceanstuck and i'll implement some of the missing features

i've already tweaked some of the dialogue

[earnest plover]

Ooohh, exciting, animations I'm curious about

[tall fossil]

new animations seems impossible unless we have an animator around

i think i can go in the evts and fixed the fucked up looking ones

[earnest plover]

Ah yea, so nothing new, can new animations be created or is it a matter of just finding someone with better knowledge?

[tall fossil]

guys looking for girls on the beach can be changed by adding a flag check. i'm thinking it doesn't even call the event if ryuji or yusuke's flag is triggered

[tall fossil]

someone who knows how to 3d animate would have to do that

it's completely possible to make new animations

[earnest plover]

So that's what we just need, too bad animations aren't universal like some other games

[tall fossil]

i don't even think there needs to be new animations. there's plenty of pre-made animations for all of the guys

[earnest plover]

Some I know of that would need them would be the romance interest leaning towards Joker during Christmas, then another where Joker gives them flowers

[tall fossil]

ok i actually gave him a rotating animation so he's not just spinning around in the one scene in his rank 10 romance lol

[tall fossil]

oh yeah

[earnest plover]

Oh yea, holding hands! 😩

I gotta look back at the cutscenes lol

Partner giving a gift in Hawaii

[tall fossil]

hello there

he jumpscared me

so close to the camera

[earnest plover]

Reality is cruel

Partner getting whip cream off Joker's nose

Those are the ones I think that would be notable

[tall fossil]

hm yeah

i can't do that. idk how to animate

[earnest plover]

Hum, where could we find people like that?

[tall fossil]

oh my god it looks so much better

[earnest plover]

Ooh?

[tall fossil]

hold on i'll record

oh no my shit's broken fuck

[earnest plover]

Uh oh, I use obs for it usually lol

[tall fossil]

it's a bit janky but it's a start. i need to edit the coordinates

idk why his stand up animation got nuked

[earnest plover]

I like that instant pose from the shock of “I love you.” Lmfao

[tall fossil]

ok yeah it exists that's weird

[earnest plover]

Oh, the shirt is different

[tall fossil]

yeah i have classic school uniforms enabled

[earnest plover]

Even the bustups

It’d be cool if certain ones were made for some costumes

[tall fossil]

i think the stand up got nuked because the turn around animation is too long

i'll make the turn around less frames

nvm ig? i can't change the starting frame

@maiden fractal how do i change the starting frame

[tall fossil]

yeah classic school uniforms doesn't change the summer or third semester uniforms

https://gamebanana.com/mods/439595

i just never liked that the fact they weren't wearing the exact uniform was just kind of retconned

ryuji: oh shit we need to change into our summer uniforms today!
ryuji: proceeds to come back completely unchanged aside from the fact he TOOK HIS JACKET OFF

modder is inactive tho so we're probably never getting summer uniforms

[earnest plover]

I would love to see some Ryuji costumes be coloured in a different way, purple and orange in a way

Maybe a Spyro theme, lol, I had a friend do something like that in another game for my fav guy there

gotta find those

Ah! Here we go, left is original, he is Erik from DQ 11

[maiden fractal]

This Starting Frame is where the command actually starts in the event flow, so to change it you'd need to cut and paste it to the frame you want.

If you want the animation to start at the same time in the event but at a later step in its internal animation frames, that's in the animation's preview window.

Not sure which you're looking for.

[tall fossil]

i added a rotation animation so ryuji wasn't just spinning. adding that animation nuked the one before it (stands up)

idk how to fix that

[maiden fractal]

Oh, yeah, moving one earlier or the other later is how you'd do that. I assume both are MAB_? Only one of those can be happening at once, so one cancels out any before it.

[tall fossil]

hold on lemme check

first animation is mab_ second is mrot

[maiden fractal]

Hmmm....

Does the MRot have an animation set on it?

[tall fossil]

yep that's how i added the rotation animation

[maiden fractal]

Ah, okay. The first animation acts like a MAB_, so same issue.

Moving the two commands further apart in the timing is how you'd resolve it.

[tall fossil]

they're way too close

ok but how do i do that

[maiden fractal]

Cut and paste!

[tall fossil]

wow

lmao

[maiden fractal]

I don't have any fancy drag and drop working yet, haha.

[tall fossil]

do i gotta move everything else down too now

[maiden fractal]

Hmmm, if it seems off, maybe....

[tall fossil]

like it looks like this now

[maiden fractal]

A pain, if so. I should add the ability to insert frames.

[tall fossil]

lemme test it

[maiden fractal]

You can also shorten the rotation duration, if it doesn't look too weird.

[tall fossil]

also ignore this the mab was farther up lol

[atomic igloo]

Oh wow I seen this guy before

[tall fossil]

ok fuck the rotation animation this is too much pain

ok what

i turned off the animation and it's still borken

what is happening here

[earnest plover]

Another boyfriend of mine lol

[tall fossil]

i abandoned it because i couldn't cut paste the mab_ underneath the mrot

[atomic igloo]

Very nice pick there~

[tall fossil]

i'm gonna have to pull a clean version of this file

[tall fossil]

lots of ryuji fans in the house

[maiden fractal]

It should be possible to keep vanilla copies of the events in a separate project folder and have that open at the same time to cut/paste back and forth.

[tall fossil]

oh no this is a custom evt

i have to pull it from the gamebanana

[atomic igloo]

Me loving Ryuji and Mishima~

[maiden fractal]

Well, I mean relatively vanilla, lol.

Vanilla Gay Joker 🤭

[earnest plover]

I always used to think people like Yusuke and Akechi more, but I'm glad it varies more lol

[tall fossil]

i like akechi with joker he's not so much for me

none of the guys are husbando for me in p5

sumire is my waifu tho <3

[earnest plover]

God damn

[tall fossil]

i ship all the guys with protag though heh

[earnest plover]

I need someone like Ryuji or Erik in my life lol

So many male love interests i've experienced but Ryuji and Erik make the top for me

[atomic igloo]

Would love to make the Male MC romance either Ryuji and Mishima~~

[tall fossil]

mishima and joker is underrated

[earnest plover]

I'm really interested in their dynamic honestly

[atomic igloo]

Prolly cuz Joker finds Mishima annoying sadge 😔

[tall fossil]

...is anyone here interested in an iwai romance

i won't do one for r&v cuz it feels gross butttt

[swift plover]

i wouldnt be against it lol

[tall fossil]

i know there's some people who wanna climb iwai

[earnest plover]

The double standard lmfao

[tall fossil]

I KNOW

[swift plover]

fr

[earnest plover]

I would be interested, it's only fair compared to the women >.>

[atomic igloo]

When Iwai is a hottest muscle DILF there~

[tall fossil]

i might make iwai romance a toggle for r&v. no double standard

[earnest plover]

Only issue is GamaBanana, you would have to host the mod elsewhere

[tall fossil]

gamebanana has tags for that

[earnest plover]

What?

[swift plover]

i have had the thought of making older men romances i just am shaky on what would be acceptable and also have adhd

[tall fossil]

gamebanana has nsfw tags

[earnest plover]

For real?

Oh yeah, I remember now

[tall fossil]

sae romance needs to happen too fr lemme date the beautiful middle aged woman

[earnest plover]

I rarely see that thou

[swift plover]

like i dont think theyd be worse than whats already in the game i just cant read the vibe of the server

[earnest plover]

https://tenor.com/view/wh-gif-4365587

[tall fossil]

ehhhhh i think most people here won't care

[swift plover]

if ur only looking at persona categories then thats expected

[tall fossil]

besides adult romances are already in the vanilla game

and it's a "don't like it don't use it" thing too

[swift plover]

thats what i was thinking, i just find persona romance option discourse to be a fucking minefield

[tall fossil]

here are gb's tags

might have to put it on github or smth bc there's nothing that really matches here

[tall fossil]

only if you make him like that

you don

't have to choose those dialogue options

[atomic igloo]

That is true there x.x

[tall fossil]

jank turning animation fixed!

looks a lot less choppy

this is the first time i've edited an evt animation i'm kinda proud

i also removed a few redundant animations. for some reason there was a duplicate animation of ryuji putting his hands in his pockets when they were already there

i moved the "look at" animation closer to the point he turns around so that his head doesn't turn before his body

there's a duplicate look at animation underneath the rotation but i can't remove it because it's under it

i also adjusted the yaw so he turns much more because he was like bending his neck to look at joker

i think i'm gonna add some animations to mishima's rank 9 because he was just kind of sitting there lol

oh wait i don't think i can

not until ajda changes the bmd that loads with the evt because if i save it the msg commands are gonna be empty (?)

[swift plover]

it should just be bmd of the same id unless you actively set a custom path

[tall fossil]

it's loading the vanilla bmd instead of the mod one because it's not en.cpk it's "mishima"

even when i select the modded one in the scripts menu

[swift plover]

in the game itself it should use the one in mishima folder assuming you didnt put any bmds of same id somewhere else
the previews just gonna suck ass

assuming the commands are actually formed properly

[tall fossil]

i'll test it out

[tall fossil]

yeah it's fine

i changed mishima's rejection from
"yeah you're stupid" to "don't think so hard"

no more insulting mishima

[rare path]

https://tenor.com/view/pitowontwt-crowd-cheering-gif-26363569

[tall fossil]

he's stil la bit sad when you reject him but i think that's in character

it's a bit vague too which i'd want to avoid, but i don't want to alter the dialogue too much

oh yeah i'll try and add mishima dates and some more ryuji dates

[earnest plover]

Ooooo

[tall fossil]

it's a simple model swap

and adjusting the animations

i won't do anything too complicated

ferris wheel date with ryuji??

[earnest plover]

That one was done, although we never see them do it, they interact in dome town I believe

[tall fossil]

i think i'll yoink kawakami's since ryuji is already based on her

[tall fossil]

they go to dome town and ride a roller coaster

can make it so the 1st time you go you get theroller coaster and the 2nd time you get the ferris wheel

[earnest plover]

Oh right, it was the roller coaster first

[tall fossil]

ok yeah kawakami is good since she doesn't have a kiss animation

[earnest plover]

I’m confusing lol

That would be sweet thou

[tall fossil]

well ryuji doesn't have one so i'd have to add a fade out which sounds like a pain

kawakami has a fadeout in hers already

[earnest plover]

Did you have ideas about other locations?

[tall fossil]

uhh idk

i'm open to suggestions

[hidden merlin]

Once you understand it, it really isn't that bad to do.

Just whenever you want the thing to fade you just add in a fade out-in-out set at 30 frame durations. You can check other events through EVTUI to get a better idea of what I mean.

I'm not sure if they'll work with a new event like bi joker's. But that just will get answered with testing it.

[maiden fractal]

Gotta say, it's super cool and motivating to see you figuring out how to make these kinds of edits! Motivating as in, it makes me want to hurry up and improve the pain points 😅 But I am really glad you've been figuring things out and making cool changes, even in its current state!!

[hidden merlin]

You're doing a great job ajda don't let yourself tell you otherwise.

[tall fossil]

ajda the 🐐

[earnest plover]

I'll do a little research on the places and give some suggestions

[tall fossil]

thank you

i'll do some myself later

[earnest plover]

Oh yea, the hangouts at ramen shops were never altered so there's some ideas for creativity

Ogikubo Ramen and Tsukishima

Seaside Park can be one, it's near the Aquarium, and The Aquarium can be another spot too https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/megamitensei/images/3/35/P5-SeasideParkOdaiba.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20171108204217

Inokashira Park can fun to challenge Ryuji being open and out hehe https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/megamitensei/images/e/ed/Inokashira.png/revision/latest?cb=20170803114903 https://www.reddit.com/r/Persona5/comments/bfox0j/we_went_rowing_at_inokashira_park_the_other_day_i/

Fishing Pond is a good one where Ryuji invited Joker for his birthday https://i.redd.it/cw870jwql1971.png

[swift plover]

its so funny to me that ryuji wants to fish for his birthday

[earnest plover]

I wonder where he got started on that from

Praying at Meji Shrine maybe? https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/megamitensei/images/8/8c/P5-MeijiShrine.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20171108195050

Destinyland, did Ryuji ever keep those ears? https://www.onemillionpower.com/wp-content/uploads/Persona-5-Destiny-Land.png

Takenoko Street, nice for shopping for some souvenirs https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/megamitensei/images/6/6d/Harajuku.png/revision/latest?cb=20170807165906

Nakano is one that's a hangout spot for Ryuji but wasn't edited for romance https://i.ytimg.com/vi/XOTbzfD9Unw/hq720.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEhCK4FEIIDSFryq4qpAxMIARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJD&rs=AOn4CLA8vIB1wiMeVaTKHloldikMnP7kyw

[tall fossil]

he thinks it's manly

[earnest plover]

Almost like hunting

[swift plover]

...

[swift plover]

i forgor flags used by gay jonkler

i realize i could check, i just wanna see if anyone remembers offhand lol

can we just make it incompatible with old saves, its not like options on the current release work consistently anyway

oh no

oh nononononononono

wait

ok false alarm

for now

wait

nvm im confused

i think i have the wrong flag for yusuke in my scheduler edits?

im just noticing, the flags for the girl confidants rise in order of confidant id
whilst guy flags in unhardcoded romance jump around haphazardly

[tall fossil]

not really. it's just because there's flags we're not using

i.e sae, maruki, yoshida, iwai

yusuke's bitflag here is 3789

i have a file

[swift plover]

no i mean the regular unhardcoded romance flags jump

[tall fossil]

yeah the old ones jump

the new ones are streamlined

[swift plover]

[tall fossil]

oh well the boys aren't 🤷

[swift plover]

thats what i was fucking saying!!

[swift plover]

i have maybe unfucked 485_340
but im not sure

for some reason some of the m/f romance checks were fucked
they were using the normal flag for that waifu but checking rank for a husbando instead

that or my decomp fucked up but considering christmas is in issues im inclined to assume genuine bug

[jovial sluice]

Ngl the audio being fucked for Mishima R10 might’ve been my fault lmaoo

I was fucking around making an ai voice over mod before I realized it was against the rules and gave neptuna a somewhat sorted version of the mod

idk if it was actually used or not tho

No actual VO audio left in there just accidentally reverted it to a fucked up version and forgot bout it

[swift plover]

afaict the mod awbs are just copies of vanilla game audio

[jovial sluice]

Yes but also iirc there is Japanese audio is mixed in with the English ACB/AWBs (don’t know why it’s like that, it same in vanilla) but I think I was messing with the cue order so they may look like the same file bu that may explain why the Japanese audio is playing

[tall fossil]

https://gamebanana.com/requests/82299 we got someone interested in climbing iwai

i offered but only for a comission... lol

i'll have to ask for whoever hosts the p5r gb for if it's even allowed

[earnest plover]

In any case, a simple Google Drive link should do with a youtube video

[swift plover]

tbh idk that itd be worse than the shit thats already in the game, and idr any warnings being handed down for sae romance not that anyone ended up making that anyway so far

[tall fossil]

sae romance would be a nightmare to make

"yeah lemme ask this criminal i met an hour ago out"

it would have to somehow be outside of the confidant to avoid that

[earnest plover]

So forced lol

[swift plover]

tbf iirc shinji in p3 is like that, no?
although yeah it would be fucking stupid lmao

[earnest plover]

I would love to romance Kanji on P4

[swift plover]

esp considering youre faking your death for like half the remaining game

[earnest plover]

Is that a spoiler?

I haven’t played it completely 😩

[swift plover]

persona fan spotted

[earnest plover]

Persona 5 fan lol

Haven’t played the rest fully

I wanna wait till you can date the guys first

Yosuke you can but not my main interest

[swift plover]

tbh i feel like you should expect p5 spoilers in the project thread for a p5 mod

[earnest plover]

Oh of course

Persona creates great male characters you can’t romance lmfao

I enjoy games where you can share your love with who you want, makes a 3-4 out of 5 game feel special

Rune Factory: GOA for one

[tall fossil]

yosuke romance is incomplete anyway

no christmas, valentines, or third semester scenes

[earnest plover]

Boooooring!

[tall fossil]

real

i romanced naoto too since there was no consequence

i wish he/him naoto mod actually worked

oh looks like it does now

for a while it just... didn't

[earnest plover]

At least I married my husband in Rune Factory

[earnest plover]

I wonder what would happen if Ryuji was a lady

[tall fossil]

i can never go into the comment section of the trans naoto mods... people are so mean

[earnest plover]

Sheesh, people make such a big deal over gender

Oh, that reminds me

[tall fossil]

like i agree that naoto is a woman, but can i just have my fancy little au please...

anyway

[tall fossil]

oo wait i have good art of that

[earnest plover]

Ryuji's voice actor did this character

[tall fossil]

with sapphic pegoryu

https://fxtwitter.com/ca3_crazyanime3/status/1696721442245652898

CA3 💕🌸🎀 Read Pinned 📌 (@ca3_crazyanime3)

so I was making a fem Ryuji to go with fem Joker, because pegorYURI but I can't decide on a hairstyle... so here's a doodle page 💛✨️ #pegoryu

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FxTwitter · Aug 30, 2023, 3:08 AM

[earnest plover]

Hmmm

[tall fossil]

https://fxtwitter.com/ca3_crazyanime3/status/1699606462497010043 fem yusuke is so pretty too

CA3 💕🌸🎀 Read Pinned 📌 (@ca3_crazyanime3)

More Fem Ryuji 💛 also Yusuke and Ann too from the last doodle pages! I kinda made them up on the spot last time... but a couple of ppl wanted more of them, so here lol

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FxTwitter · Sep 7, 2023, 2:12 AM

[earnest plover]

lmfao, Yusuke does a lady better

[swift plover]

hey i remember those lol

[earnest plover]

Still
"I like men."

[tall fossil]

also masc ann is surprisingly

[earnest plover]

Oh yea, anyone like wolf-men?

[earnest plover]

Show me

[tall fossil]

omg he's so pretty

[tall fossil]

it's in that image

[earnest plover]

Oh fart

Oh lmfao, I didn't notice lmfao

[earnest plover]

He's a adorable winter god

[tall fossil]

i'm a fan of pretty boys/twinks sooo

[tall fossil]

omg

[earnest plover]

The game has a looooot of pretty bois

You won't believe what's under my husband's mask

[tall fossil]

lmao... pretty boy?

[earnest plover]

yeeeeeaaaass

[tall fossil]

is this the newest rune factory

[earnest plover]

I could show but it may be a spoiler

[tall fossil]

don't

[earnest plover]

Yes, it's different from the usual franchise, action JRPG introduced with toned down farming mechanics, and the same social link system

A lot of fun, I'd recommend it

[tall fossil]

oo sounds fun

i'll wait until it's on sale

[earnest plover]

Oh yea, you should haha, way too expensive

[tall fossil]

i'll accept the gifted game as payment for the iwai romance... lol

i think i have my steam wishlist on gb too

$60 is about what i'd charge for that

[earnest plover]

I give it like 4 out of 5, espeically after the recent update added a post-game boss guantlet and extended social link ranks from 10 to 100

[earnest plover]

Jesus

[tall fossil]

it's a difficult thing to do

[earnest plover]

Yea true

Oh, I have a profile page to show

[tall fossil]

oh hehe looks like it's cracked. no denuvo. perhaps i pirate then

[earnest plover]

Red are love interests and have side-stories, green have none but are still recrutable into your party

I really hope they do DLC for the greens

[tall fossil]

oh so this is like fire emblem

[earnest plover]

Haven't played it so I can't compare lol

[tall fossil]

tactical rpg were you recruit tons of characters and can marry anybody (sometimes restricted to gender)

[earnest plover]

Not really tactical, like Kingdom Hearts, Persona and toned down usual Rune Factory

[tall fossil]

hmm kingdom hearts mixed with persona. kind of like modern final fantasy then

[earnest plover]

Perhaps lol

You farm to get materials, money, socialize to bulid up your characters and you go into dungeons

Graphics are pretty good