(P5R PC) Kasumi as Protagonist

[kindred comet]

i dont really mind unless its multiple pings in a row

which usually bugs me because it makes it harder to focus

[strange vector]

I wanna get to the metaverse like, yesterday.

Gotta look at the costumes!

Wanna see if Kasumi is still Feartherman Red.

[craggy ice]

I think there's one that's red and one that's gray? I can't remember

[plucky rapids]

yeah lol i dont like to ping people unless im asking information or i think its actually important, since pinging exists to actively get ones attention
so getting repeatedly pinged in the same conversation feels like when someone puts URGENT!! in the header of every goddamn email

[craggy ice]

I prefer to be pinged in replies or else I just straight up won't see it LMAO

[kindred comet]

https://gamebanana.com/mods/623974

spent today procrastinating on making this so i never got to actually play much of p5r today

as much as i wouldve liked to de-clutter the download page and only have two downloads including the long hair ones as a toggle would add a ton of space

[zealous fjord]

Oh wow, thank you for making the alt models version.

[plucky rapids]

its ok, i havent properly played the game since 2020

[open gull]

The gun SFX.
Sorry, just saw your message

[ruby adder]

I thought about making a "Mid winter outfit" to distinguish it from the Sumire, but my head would explode. 3D modeling is too difficult...

[thorn nimbus]

I agree with this one, as I may not get notified about it 💯☺️

[ashen sapphire]

DAMN

[kindred comet]

I'll probably just tie it to what ranged you pick

there's already a lot of config options, if someone really wants pistol sounds on the lever action they'll need to just copy the file over themselves, at some point I need to tell users to deal with it bcs I don't want a ton of config options let alone obscure ones

[open gull]

Ah that makes sense. Will do!

[ruby adder]

Replaced mid winter casual outfit with Rise's outfit from P4G.
Even with high-resolution textures, it still looks rough...

[kindred comet]

Why not use the model from PS4 P4Dancing?

[urban anvil]

was gonna say, i think p4d models would be comparable enough to p5 quality wise

[ruby adder]

Because P4D isn't available on Steam.😭

[kindred comet]

I can give you the model in a bit

[ruby adder]

Then I'd like the six types of Mid Winter outfits (casual & school) for “Chie,” “Yukiko,” and “Rise.” I want to choose combinations that look good together.

[kindred comet]

@ruby adder

these ones too

in case i sent the wrong school ones

[ruby adder]

Thanks! I'll try making all sorts of costumes.

[spice grotto]

oh snap

[craggy ice]

omg more original outfits for kasumi

[spice grotto]

ngl she rocks the rise MW clothes

[ruby adder]

Is it something like this?

[kindred comet]

that looks really nice!

[ruby adder]

Next, I'll test the animation.

[spice grotto]

Eeeeeeeee

[ruby adder]

The cruel reality thrust upon Kasumi...
I have to fix this...!

[craggy ice]

...she's too flat

[ruby adder]

Should I build up the inside or pull back the outside... I'll think about it for a moment.

[steep scaffold]

All the Persona girls are too flat...

[urban anvil]

no such thing

[steep scaffold]

Even Ann…

[spice grotto]

huh...

pettan

[kindred comet]

Finally got around to implementing the recently updated KR translation, it'll be in the next update

[trail topaz]

ooo

[ruby adder]

What could be the cause?

[kindred comet]

materials probably

[ruby adder]

I haven't tried any intense action yet, but I've confirmed it holds up fine for running around town.

[kindred comet]

Very nice, I would recommend publishing this to gamebanana as an add-on mod

[ruby adder]

By the way... padded

[candid oriole]

That looks amazing!

[ruby adder]

I've prepared versions for Kasumi as the protagonist and for AltModels, so I was thinking of handing those over to you...

For the casual outfit, I'm torn between “Rise” and “Yukiko.”

[kindred comet]

I think uploading it to gb yourself should be fine

I'm kinda at the point where I don't want to add any more outfit options to the main mod and would prefer them being addon mods

[ruby adder]

Does AltrenateModels share the same perspective?

[kindred comet]

@zealous fjord

although i'd advise alt models to just encourage it as a separate download

[kindred comet]

Main reason is because I don't really want more things to maintain and there's enough config options now that I don't want it being buried under them

[zealous fjord]

Hummm, I don't mind adding it as a configure option, so you can send it my way once it's finished. I also think your issue could be material related, so maybe copying material properties from the base model coat will work?

If there are other models you want to make, you can send them to me once they're finished too. That way, I can update the mod with more than 1 model

You can also make a separate mod, if that's what you prefer

[ruby adder]

Create two Mid Winter outfits (school and casual).
I'll send them once they're finished.
The original Kasumi’s outfit will be upload as an Addon Mod.

[craggy ice]

mind if I make a red rose version?

I'll need the alt models version. I'll just swap the textures

[ruby adder]

I don't have the Red Rose Model, so feel free to take it.

I've only finished the school version so far, so please wait a little longer.

[craggy ice]

oh no of course

[ruby adder]

@zealous fjord Please perform a basic functionality check.There may be hidden issues.
The default size of the mid winter casual outfit causes the waist to protrude, so I've applied a scale increase to the clothing plus deformation to the waist vertex.

[craggy ice]

did you fix the incorrect bust size?

[ruby adder]

@craggy ice padded🤣

[craggy ice]

padded... lmao

can't reduce it add more

[ruby adder]

The casual outfit uses Rise's body, so it's above average.

[kindred comet]

hopefully this doesnt cause too much confusion with it being separate for my mod and integrated for alt models

[craggy ice]

i always thought rise was average... but that might be my american bias lol

i thought kasumi was flat which is why i finid it funny when i see fan art of her with giant honkers

[kindred comet]

for some reason 006 and 005 dont open for me

[ruby adder]

I intend to explicitly state that the Mod page is an addon directly under Kasumi as Protagonist.

[kindred comet]

it depends on the outfit

though i think there's a bit too much padding here

[craggy ice]

woah yeah that's a bit jarring

[craggy ice]

oh idk why i thought she was flat

[zealous fjord]

Thanks! And yeah, the 005 model doesn't open

[kindred comet]

summer for comparison

[kindred comet]

probably bcs of the shujin outfits

[ruby adder]

It seems that sometimes when I edit in my Blender, the files become unopenable in GMDstudio.

[craggy ice]

yeha she is wearing a heavy turtle neck

[zealous fjord]

I think the turtleneck will need to be adjusted too. It clips a bit during some animations

[kindred comet]

okay 006 is a dupe of 007 so nevermind, but yeah 005 wont open for me

@ruby adder i recommend getting rid of the outline mesh from the dancing model

its not needed in p5r

[kindred comet]

its due to the materials

i think this still has some dancing materials or smth

you'll just have to edit them or build off of a pre-existing p5 material

[ruby adder]

Just to be safe, I left the inner layer around the neck and sleeves, . it's sticking out, I'll erase it.

[kindred comet]

yeah the outline mesh should be removed from this model as well

and the materials will probably have to be edited

well maybe not, idk

[ruby adder]

I had some black mesh for the outline and lining, so I used it just in case. Since it doesn't affect the functionality, I'll remove it.

The Alt Long Hair school outfit allows hair to pass through the fur, so the hair has been slightly adjusted.

[kindred comet]

Clipping is inevitable (and happens in atlus's own anims/models) so if you can't fix clipping I wouldn't worry about it too much

[ruby adder]

I've edited the lighting around the light source for the material. By default, it glowed like indoor heating and lighting combined.
I've also changed the texture format from gnf to dds.

[zealous fjord]

Yeah, don't worry about the long hair clipping. It's going to happen regardless, especially if se turns her head right or left

As for the bust : I think it can be adjusted by selecting the faces of the two meshes and resizing them (not moving them). They might need to be resized separately, but I think that's doable

[ruby adder]

Should I also upload a version with the pointed-out parts corrected?

[zealous fjord]

Sure, you can reupload them

[ruby adder]

The mid winter school outfit had a merciless gap at the bust, so I sculpted it up using X-symmetry. Since it'll be hidden by the muffler, the sculpting is pretty rough...

[zealous fjord]

Don't worry, some of that stuff can't be seen in game anyway

[ruby adder]

I'll upload Protag's too. There might be bugs I wouldn't notice...

[zealous fjord]

Well, I think it's just her neck that's clipping. It's just that animation in particular, so I don't think it's too much of a bother

Also, I think the normals must be reset. You can through here

[kindred comet]

hmm her bust still looks a bit too big

i would say try and find an inbetween between her PT outfit and her winter casual

other than that i think it looks good

[ruby adder]

If can shape the waist properly, should be able to avoid the Z-Fight and return to the default size.
It seems a bit challenging, but I plan to try dressing Yukiko in her casual outfit too.

[zealous fjord]

I've (mostly) managed to fix by duplicating the mesh, inverting the normals and fusing them

[kindred comet]

persona fusion...

[zealous fjord]

How about this

(ignore the normals)

[craggy ice]

looks much better imo

[zealous fjord]

Hands a clipping into the coat

I think the coat was just a bit too big

[kindred comet]

[zealous fjord]

I've resized the fur a little bit because you can see beneath it

Can't do much more

It's getting late, so I'll post my progress here if someone want to continue adjusting things

I still think the thighs are bit too dark (probably the "shadow" of the original model), though I think texture editing will be needed here if you want to keep the shoes

[kindred comet]

i just remembered ive been sitting on a kap update for a few days now

i forgor bcs i got distracted by the maruki counseling voice lines mod

[ruby adder]

Now currently a slave to my company. I'll resume costume modding when I get home.

[kindred comet]

New update is out, have fun

[zealous fjord]

If you make more adjustments to the casual outfit, could you do it on the model I've posted above? That way, I don't have to redo everything I did yesterday

[ruby adder]

Got it!
I'm still new to costume changes, so this is a big help.

[ruby adder]

What should I do about this...

[zealous fjord]

Oh, I should've tested this

Uh, maybe keeping the normals on the inside on the back could work

[wary depot]

I'm getting this json error when trying to configure the mod in reloaded, after which reloaded crashes. anyone know a fix? i did a manual install

[ruby adder]

After adding the vertex group to the upper lower body, it's much better, but the coat hem might look a bit off?

[zealous fjord]

What is the GAP number for that animation?

[ruby adder]

this is 659.

When seated, the entire inner layer appears to have shifted significantly backward.

[zealous fjord]

It's working with the model i've sent yesterday

[ruby adder]

“Is it my environment that's bad?”... the so-called “Omakan?”😱

Ah... I see.
It seems the weights scattered when I assigned the vertex group around the neck to the inner layer.

I adjusted the material so that when light hits the black stockings, they appear slightly translucent.
If they were leggings, it would be weird for them to be see-through... What should we do?

[zealous fjord]

I would not make it see through, it's likely to me much more noticeable in a different event or place

[craggy ice]

hie about giving Kasumi a blue ribbon in that outfit?

[zealous fjord]

Alright, I see what you did here

The vertices of whole mess were also assigned to the neck and head vertex group

So they need to be removed

Doing so, it clips a lot less

I can also fix the black tighs being too dark

Aaaaaand, fixed

Just had to remove from the clavicle vertex group

Ahah, am I finally getting good at this?

[weary zodiac]

Wahahaha. You are!

[zealous fjord]

@ruby adder Here you go, the neck and the tighs have been adjusted

[ruby adder]

I'm learning a lot. Thank you.
Are there any other points that need correction?

[zealous fjord]

I don't think so. I'd say, this model should be pretty much finished

Well, the ponytail variant will need to be remade

And both must be tested in game

Just in case

[ruby adder]

Is modifier data transfer not very reliable?

[zealous fjord]

I'd rather just replace the hair, that's less likely to break something

I'll do it in just a moment

I'm currently checking the winter uniform, I think it's the material that's preventing it from opening in GFDstudio

Reusing the old coat material works, so that's probably it. As to what's causing this specifically, I have no idea

Also, I'm afraid Kasumi's flat

[urban anvil]

😵‍💫

[craggy ice]

gotta push the jacket in i suppose...

[zealous fjord]

It seems like my alternate models mods are no longer able to replace the infiltration log model

This is with the long hair variant, so this isn't a case of two textures having the same name

Whatever I do, I'm unable to replace it

I have to delete the model in Wisteria's mod to actually replace it

[kindred comet]

check the first pin

[kindred comet]

there's two versions of that model, one is the older model and one is the newer model with updated materials

the newer one will only load if CBT is detected, so it's added via bind

it's been like that since the test build days

it's kind of a hold over from when cbt wasn't a dependency but I've kept it just to be safe

[zealous fjord]

Hum, weird. I remember it working when I made those models

[kindred comet]

you'll probably just have to add it as a bind

take a look at my optionalmodfiles

[zealous fjord]

Yeah, I think I'll need to add the same thing as you, but with my model

[ruby adder]

Yukiko's mid winter outfit tried it on, this doesn't look like something wear in the mid winter.🤔

[zealous fjord]

That could work as a regular "winter" outfit

[zealous fjord]

Thanks, that worked! I was so confused why that stopped working

Well, at least I have a good reason to update the models mod now

I'll update with Mugikomachi models, so this can wait a bit

[sonic finch]

We love spaghetti code

[kindred comet]

be nice, that's my awesome spaghetti code

[craggy ice]

I think that looks cute

for regular winter not midwinter/third semester

[zealous fjord]

I forgot to rename the material name's for the face and the eyes, so the darkened face and the yellow eyes are not working. Other than that, it seems like the model is great in game

[kindred comet]

not just the name, they need to occupy the correct slot as well

[sonic finch]

Hey I get it, I write enough spaghetti code at work that I could probably legally open a Zizzi's

[zealous fjord]

If by slot, you mean assigned to the right mesh, this isn't an issue because it's just blender duplicating the textures/meshes when they are copied. All the properties are copied

Just need to rename them

[kindred comet]

i meant in the order they appear in inside the gmd but i guess if it works anyway its not a big deal

[zealous fjord]

They always seem to be in the same order in GFDStudio. I never actually checked, but that's good to know

Dropping this here, in case someone wants to test them as battle costumes. Extract this into Costumes\Joker (for instance, in one of my model mods)

We'll have to make a Sumire versions of those, but that's piece of cake at this point

[thorn nimbus]

Ooh I can't wait to see what a Sumire version looks like

Is she gonna get differentiated too? 👀

[zealous fjord]

It's just going to be red hair/eyes. I don't want to edit the coat textures here

[thorn nimbus]

Ah alright, that's fair

[zealous fjord]

I also need to keep adjusting the winter uniform because it has the same issues with the normals here. I'm still not done with making it more flat

[wary depot]

rad, thank you! I missed that part of the pin

[craggy ice]

speaking of pinned wisteria your post about the language support needs to be updated to acknowledge japanese support being available now

[steep scaffold]

Anyone else uses ShrineFox's Mod Menu?

Cus it won't pop up when I push N as the hotkey

[urban anvil]

yeah ive just kinda accepted mine not working in the metaverse

[steep scaffold]

Not even just in the Metaverse, but just anywhere

It pops up when I start the game. But nowhere else

[plucky rapids]

its tied to the control for the phone, if phone/autoheal are disabled then it no worky

it also doesnt have merging so if anything also messes with the behavior for that button then thatll override it too

[steep scaffold]

So I have to unbind the keybind for the Phone?

[craggy ice]

that's... impossible unless you wanna do some modding yourself

[steep scaffold]

So what... That's it?

[craggy ice]

uhhhh. idk send your mod load order

but also in the future use #1045463162452987924

[plucky rapids]

but also what u even using mod menu for anyway

its not rly intended for normal play and can sometimes break things

[craggy ice]

yeah it's intended for modders who use test saves and the test field since it can fuck up save data

[steep scaffold]

I do testing primarily for Personas and Skills.

[plucky rapids]

yeah thats fair

[urban anvil]

i use it to fuck around

[craggy ice]

i'd just use cheat engine for that lol

[steep scaffold]

Cheat Engine never works for me. So Amen to you for that

[craggy ice]

cheat engine is much more reliable. it's intended for player use and writes to save data on your memory in real time

strange

[steep scaffold]

Cus this is my life

[craggy ice]

i dont use cheat engine but i know there's a special plugin for p5r

[steep scaffold]

But that's besides the point. I put the mod menu at the very bottom, cus that is what it said

[craggy ice]

ok yeah weird

do you have p5r scramble phone

[steep scaffold]

Nope

[craggy ice]

uhhh

...are there any other mods that hack the phone hotkey?

[steep scaffold]

Fairly positive no

[urban anvil]

spooky i don't like that

[craggy ice]

...what?

[urban anvil]

if i mess something up i'd rather it not save

[craggy ice]

it won't do anything to your save data if you don't save

lol

[urban anvil]

[craggy ice]

your save data is costantly being written to your memory. it won't fuck anythign up if you just don't save

saving is a simply a way to well... save the current state on your memory

to your hard drive

[steep scaffold]

Well, do you guys know any other Mod Menu besides ShrineFox's?

[craggy ice]

nope

not on pc anyway

[steep scaffold]

Wonderful

[craggy ice]

also it's unlikely to do that. like i said cheat engine is meant for user usage

[steep scaffold]

Just what I needed

[urban anvil]

last time i tried to use cheat engine my brain fell out of my skull

but that was like many years ago

[craggy ice]

did you use the p5r table

[urban anvil]

just in general

last time i used it i had no clue wtf was happening

[craggy ice]

https://fearlessrevolution.com/viewtopic.php?t=21800 this is so you don't have to figure out what the hex values mean lol

[urban anvil]

I'm fine with the mod menu i don't really do much with it flag and event wise so

[craggy ice]

yeah the flags are what'll fuck you up

[urban anvil]

yeah i've steered clear of flag stuff

I'll use the call feature to summon a battle to test something and then load a save to get back to what i was doing

thats about it

[craggy ice]

stuff like that doesn't write to your memory

actually... it does

[urban anvil]

well i load story battles lol

[craggy ice]

sometimes battles have corresponding events that trigger flags

welp

[urban anvil]

like holy grail or twins fight in semester 3

[craggy ice]

i'd be very careful using that on a save. either close without saving or dupe your save data

[urban anvil]

i close without saving yeah

because beating the twins in 3rd semester softlocks the game LOL

[craggy ice]

yeah obviously the flags are mistmatched

[urban anvil]

and holy grail
makes you replay the entire section so i just close the game after i do th first attacks

I also manipulate the days sometimes...

like repeating or going back in time

it makes the text messages all wonky

[craggy ice]

again that's because of the flags already being on/off lolol

[urban anvil]

but yeah i use the mod menu to give myself story boss skills and also summoning fights to test said skills

powerscaling goes crazy i be using full force with like 4 copies of damage boosting skills and a charge effect

[kindred comet]

[steep scaffold]

Does that give the ID values of stuff in the game? If not, you know one?

In case the Mod menu will ever work for me

[craggy ice]

id values?

[steep scaffold]

Of stuff in the game. Like Persona Ids, Skills Ids, etc

[steep scaffold]

And Nvm, found it…

https://amicitia.miraheze.org/wiki/Persona_5_Royal/Skills

[urban anvil]

oh yeah that

[ruby adder]

Ah... I hadn't considered battle use.

[tawny fable]

I have not had much progress in the switch port but it’s still in the works.

[ruby adder]

What is the GAP number for this animation?

[zealous fjord]

I'm not on my PC, but it's the first GAP that starts with a B. B0001_001 or something. This is animation 40 I think

[ruby adder]

The skirt's movement seems fine.

[ruby adder]

The red collar at the neck may cliping on the animation, and it's difficult to fix...

[ruby adder]

@zealous fjord plz check and test it.

[zealous fjord]

Thanks! They look fine to on Blender and GFDstudio. I'll have to test them in game, but I don't think we should bother with the clipping on the neck here. This won't be noticeable in game

Also, I've finished flattening/adjusting the mid winter uniform. I need to test it in game as well

[zealous fjord]

I've fixed the neck here

Also, one of the hands was clipping into the sleeve so I've adjusted those too

nvm, the neck is still clipping

[craggy ice]

i really like the yukiko dress. it fits kasumi really well

[bold shadow]

has there been any discussion about replacing the summer school uniform?

[normal mural]

honestly the persona girls have such cute outfits 😭

i could definitely see kasumi in most of these

[craggy ice]

ireally want her to just have the regular shirt without the sweater

the sweater shouldn't be too hard to remove right?

[bold shadow]

i hope not

would be great if she just had a standard outfit

and also a sweater seems kinda superfluous in summer no?

[craggy ice]

yeah lmao

i'm all for different outfits so kasumi and sumire don't look exaclty the same

[bold shadow]

yukari winter outfit for kasumi 🔥

[bold shadow]

yeah that too

better to differentiate them

[chrome hawk]

Ok but Yukiko's winter outfits fits on Kasumi perfectly

Because it's red...

[normal mural]

i think so too

[bold shadow]

true but

yukari winter outfit

could color that red if you want

[chrome hawk]

Wait I can see your vision

If you could just

Recolor it /j

[bold shadow]

boom

maybe too dark though, gives off christmas vibes

[chrome hawk]

Now that's fire

[craggy ice]

that's more yukiko red

sumi red is a bit brighter

[craggy ice]

that's slightly cursed

[bold shadow]

devs add it

[spice grotto]

It kinda cooks

[normal mural]

the red with the white fur makes her look like mrs. claus

no shade

😭

[bold shadow]

yeah that what i was worried about

maybe a more pinkish red then

[normal mural]

u could also try to like change the fur to not be so white

maybe like

a tan

or nude color

idk

[bold shadow]

oh yeah true

[normal mural]

maybe even black

[kindred sonnet]

I would opt for rose pink with beige fur

or very light tan

[normal mural]

oh the beige fur looks so mych better than pure white

pure white kinda made it look cheap

[bold shadow]

might be cool to restore the og boots imo

[kindred comet]

shrimply use the dancing model

reload just uses the dancing bodies but occasionally tweaks them (like with the boots here for... some reason)

[bold shadow]

yeah

could keep the leggings though ig

[kindred sonnet]

id go lighter on the pink but the fur is spot on

[normal mural]

i like the lighter pink better too

[bold shadow]

like this?

[kindred sonnet]

perfect

[bold shadow]

now imagine you got the boots too

boom

new winter outfit option

[bold shadow]

also someone please make an alternative to the present summer school outfit as well

[ruby adder]

The school uniform was kept as-is due to the school emblem and Kasumi's strict personality.
While studying, maybe i should try dressing her up in something?

[craggy ice]

really just take the sweater off if possible...

idk if it would be empty underneath

oh wait are you talking about the winter uniform

[ruby adder]

Summer school outfit or anything else are fine.

[craggy ice]

yeah i'm just wondering if the sweater on her summer uniform can be taken off

[bold shadow]

yeah the sweater looks kinda weird

[ruby adder]

I think there's hollow underneath that sweater.

[sonic finch]

There's a second, smaller Kasumi hidden inside

[craggy ice]

sad...

maybe you could reconstruct from makoto's?

[kindred sonnet]

so now shes a Russian nesting doll

[sonic finch]

[bold shadow]

yeah that would be the best option imo

[ruby adder]

It depends on what kind of outfit you want.
Like Makoto's white blouse style, etc.
Since layering clothes on top of each other basically causes Z-Fights or clipping, we'll make the space underneath hollow.

[bold shadow]

i think makoto's style is best

[craggy ice]

makoto literally just has the straght uniform on

[trail topaz]

I want this in my game

[bold shadow]

that's how it goes for the protagonist too though traditionally no?

ren wears the standard uniform

[craggy ice]

yeah he just wears the regular uniform

[bold shadow]

yu wears the standard uniform

makoto (yuuki) wears the standard uniform

[craggy ice]

well not technically. yu has his blouse open

that's dress code

[trail topaz]

featherman swap looks cool

no clue why it got deleted

[bold shadow]

a minor flaw

[bold shadow]

would make it myself if i knew how to persona mod

[trail topaz]

seeing that I'm prob gonna figure out how to edit the texture

[worn topaz]

noticed some things I wanted to fix lol

[trail topaz]

ahhh okay

[bold shadow]

gotta make the model too

[trail topaz]

no?

[bold shadow]

texture is easy

[trail topaz]

I dont think you saw what I replied to

[bold shadow]

oh the yukari one

[trail topaz]

christmas yukari

[bold shadow]

yeah that'd be really easy probably

[trail topaz]

gonna have to dump that texture

tempted to ask in the femc discord where its located bc I dont wanna go on a manhunt

[bold shadow]

reminds me i wish yu wore his uniform how kou wears his

[worn topaz]

Made a head swap (and some texture edits) to the Alt Featherman costume so that it now uses the helmet from Joker's model

[trail topaz]

Ayy it’s back

[worn topaz]

yeah I wanted to match the black detailing on the gloves and belt that everyone else has

[trail topaz]

I wonder how the suit would look recoloured to black

To match the black and white leotards

[craggy ice]

mind if i add this to my red rose models mod?

[worn topaz]

sure!

[ruby adder]

When she’s next to the NPC Kasumi, their outfits are basically matching. Part of me wants to give her a summer school outfit variant too, but if that’s the setup—sisters, maybe even twins—the matching look kind of works.

[normal mural]

i don't really mind the matching uniforms, i personally think its fitting for the two of them since they're twins

i'm glad we are at least getting alternatives for casual wear though, as it gives them the chance to shine individually outside of school + its a neat way to show that even though they are twins, they have their own distinct personalities and aren't a carbon copy of each other

the whole "matching outfits" outside of uniforms between twins kinda stops at a certain age (right after pre-teen years) so its good that we at least get different outfits outside of school and i'm thankful for that 🩷

[normal mural]

quick minor suggestion while we're on the topic of casualwear, would we be able to incorporate yukiko's outfits for other seasons? since her color palette is already red for the other seasons i thought it'd be a great alternative for kasumi, plus their styles are somewhat similar

[kindred comet]

Is this an update to the alt feather man costume? If so I'll include it in the next addon collection update

[worn topaz]

that’d be awesome yeah

[worn topaz]

@zealous fjord Would you also be able to update the Alt Featherman costume in your model mod to this?

[zealous fjord]

Sure. I wasn't sure, but it looks like I have it in my models mod too

I'll keep the old one, name it "Legacy" and replace the "Alt" with this one

[zealous fjord]

I think I'm done tweaking the models. It was quite a bit of more fixing the clipping, the holes, the missing normals...
Also, I've adjusted the material properties so shadows/light can be projected on them (like the ponytail shadow)

[zealous fjord]

The color also look overall better

[spice grotto]

Gimme… gimme…gimme!

[zealous fjord]

I still have to rewrite my config options and test them again in the overworld

[normal mural]

its so pretty 🩷

[rain tangle]

Not sure if it's been noticed by anyone else, but it seems that the pause menu art for the long hair mod just doesn't show up

[craggy ice]

neptune never made a long hair version

use the default

[rain tangle]

That explains it then, although I've had it as Neptunes forever now and it worked around the time it was first added..

[craggy ice]

huh... i never saw neptune's long hair version?

[rain tangle]

No I mean like I had Neptunes selected on the main mod

It used to override it with the art for the long hair mod before, no idea why it isn't now though

[craggy ice]

it never should've done that lol... usually configs override everything

but idk. sometimes reloaded can be wonky

[rain tangle]

Oh well, it's no biggie, I can simply switch it to the default one on the main mod whenever I wanna use long hair I suppose

Not like it's the end of the world

[trail topaz]

I finally made this real

[craggy ice]

👀 ?

[spice grotto]

~~it’s for Yukari ~~

I KNEW IT

Looks like a Christmas attire

[trail topaz]

i want it for yukari yea

[trail topaz]

it is her winter outfit after all

I mean considering I already recoloured the texture it could be used for a kasumi version

[spice grotto]

Tru

[trail topaz]

If anyone wants the texture for Kasumi just lemme know

Though not sure how the p3r model would work with p5

Might be better to recolour the dancing texture for that

[bold shadow]

nice

[bold shadow]

should make it like this for kasumi

[spice grotto]

Wonder if it’ll suit her character

Most importantly does she have a ribbon for this

[cyan sun]

Of course she does

[ruby adder]

I'm getting tired of adjusting clipping and weights... I'll continue this another time.🥱

[craggy ice]

she's so cute!

I love playing Kasumi dress-up

[spice grotto]

Sounds like an anime

[normal mural]

SO CUTE

you guys are going all out on the outfits

i live for it

[normal mural]

has this been added to the mod yet?

[zealous fjord]

Not yet, but soon

[ruby adder]

Another garment I was making at the same time.
I'm constantly stumbling over weight adjustments, shadow maps, and exporting to .GMD.
I'll just go to bed and rest for now.😴

[kindred comet]

By any chance do you think you could swap the boots out for the ones in the dancing yukari winter casual?

you could keep the leggings I suppose

[spice grotto]

SHES PINK

[normal mural]

BFKSNGOSNGOMDLGMDKFKDKF OH WE WONNNNNNNNNN

SHES SO LOVELY

[normal mural]

oooooh do they have different boots in the dancing game?

[kindred comet]

she has her original boots in dancing

they were changed in reload for some reason

[craggy ice]

EEEE SO CUTE

thankfully yukari's bust size actually matches kasumi's this time lol

[normal mural]

ok yeah these boots are cute

[chrome hawk]

OMG SHES REAL

[bold shadow]

YES

[bold shadow]

yeah gotta have those

those + the leggings imo

[trail topaz]

Did you change the outfit?

Oh I see different boots

[ruby adder]

Oh... right, P3 has a PC version for “D”... I was desperately borrowing it from R.

[kindred comet]

I can send you the P3D model if you'd like

[ruby adder]

I extracted assets from Unreal Engine and worked hard to apply textures...
P3D used .GMD files, huh

[kindred comet]

Yeah, I wish I knew beforehand so I could've sent the P3D models 😓

[ruby adder]

Wel,well... I guess I can say I learned a little bit about Unreal Engine.
Thanks to that, it seems like I could get things done much faster with other .GMDs.
Wisteria, thanks for the .GMD file.

Converting P3R assets for P5R was a real pain... When I imported them, the meshes were all merged together, the materials were different, the textures were different, and the vertex counts were way too high—it was driving me nuts.
For someone barely past beginner level like me, it was way too difficult.

[ruby adder]

Should she wear knee-high socks?

[craggy ice]

yeah I think it'd look cute

[ruby adder]

I tried putting socks on her.
This is what happens when she takes off her boots.

[chrome hawk]

She looks cute

And it fits her perfectly

Is that her 3rd semester outfit?

[ruby adder]

I think it's too cold for mid winter casual wear.
I'm still deciding which season to go with.

I'm sure either Zylvos or Wisteria will come up with a clever way to use it.

[kindred sonnet]

normal winter so first 2 months of the game and i think oct through december before she swaps to her red coat

replace red skirt and white top that is her normal winter outfit

[normal mural]

normal fall/winter i think

it looks too cold for third semester LOL

[ruby adder]

@zealous fjord I've incorporated Yukari's winter casual outfit. Please check it when you have time.

For the Kasumi as Protagonist's outfit, after determining the wear season, I'll pack it to add-on.

[normal mural]

the boots look a little chunky, are they like that on dancing yukari's model too? 😮

[ruby adder]

Since it was imported from the P3D model, it should be identical.
Due to the foot mesh, the boots themselves are slightly larger to allow for some room. (This is because there are opportunities to remove the shoes, and a barefoot mesh is also included inside the shoes.)
It may be possible to make the boots smaller.

[sick breach]

her knee 😭

[ruby adder]

Since it's just a matter of swapping out the texture, I can prepare the version without knee-high socks right away.

[spice grotto]

I’m glad Yukari starting selling her stylish clothes

[ruby adder]

If remove the fur from the boots, they might even work with summer casual outfit... maybe?

[spice grotto]

I mean maybe

Both fur from the boots and top maybe

[zealous fjord]

Thanks, the models look great!
I think they'd work best as another winter casual (= not summer or 3rd semester casual).
Also, I think they need a bit of a "resize" like the other models

[ruby adder]

After removing the fur from the tops, the chest and shoulders were hollow.😭

[spice grotto]

Welp nvm

[zealous fjord]

@ruby adder Here are the Sumire version of the other models, with all the adjustments I've made. You can update your mod with those if you want

[ruby adder]

This time, I paid close attention to the weights and worked hard to avoid clipping or mesh breakage.

[zealous fjord]

That took longer than I expected because I'm a bit sick, so I kept forgetting stuff

[ruby adder]

I'm learning a lot. Thank you!

[zealous fjord]

Yes, I've seen that. I think the models just need to be the resized a bit to fit Kasumi's body shape a bit better, that's all

[zealous fjord]

No problem, and don't worry, you did most of the work 😉

[ruby adder]

I also like how Yukiko’s midwinter casual outfit as Kasumi's
winter outfit. What should I do...🤔

[spice grotto]

Hmmm you should combine them

[normal mural]

yukari's winter casual for fall/winter with rise's midwinter outfit for third semester feels like a good combination i think because it looks like the pieces all come from the same closet

especially with the pink

[ruby adder]

@zealous fjord The .GMD file I sent has its texture modified for black knee-high socks. If you don't want to use the socks, please replace it with the original C0001_004_00Texture. If that's too much trouble, I can send you the texture from my end.

[spice grotto]

That’s a lovers moment

[normal mural]

pink suits kasumi really well surprisingly with the brown hair and eyes version especially

also rose can technically mean rose pink too so it seems fitting

[spice grotto]

Kasumi is more for pink and Sumire is more for Red which suits

[ruby adder]

I never imagined that cardboard box could hold so many clothes...

[spice grotto]

Now she just needs a special ribbon

[ruby adder]

It wasn't intentional, but I feel like it also matches the flower that seems to be the origin of Kasumi's name.
this is "Kasumi So"

[normal mural]

mind blown

woah

[spice grotto]

Those are definitely the flowers she won in her time as a gymnast

[zealous fjord]

I think it looks good with the black knee-high socks

[astral chasm]

Im loving the new outfits

gj guys ❤️

[zealous fjord]

@ruby adder Are you going to edit more things on the Yukari models? So I know if I can start working on adjusting some stuff on it

[ruby adder]

I believe I've done everything I could, so I'll try on to another Modding.
I'd appreciate it if you could point out any areas that need improvement.
The boots still seem tweakable, but if I try, I'm afraid I'll mess things up...

[kindred comet]

No need to edit the boots, the socks or feet mesh will be hidden when not in use

I think Zylvos could probably explain better, I'm pre occupied rn

[ruby adder]

I thought the part that would be hidden was from the toes to around the ankle.
If that's the case, I wondered if the shin area would form a blank when taking off the boots.

[zealous fjord]

The shoes need to have a certain bone for them to be removable during some scenes

[spice grotto]

Heh… toes

[ruby adder]

If she actually try to enter a temple wearing boots, get beaten to a pulp with a keisaku.lol

[zealous fjord]

Also, I have discovered that the maid outfit for Kasumi has knee-high socks that are a separate mesh. You can the leg being "squizzed" a little, that a nice attention to detail

[ruby adder]

Yukari's outfit knee-high socks were painted directly onto the textures, so maybe the edges may appear blurred depending on the viewing distance.😔

[kindred comet]

Yeah, any other details are probably done via reload 's texture maps so I wouldn't worry about it

[zealous fjord]

I have been unfair to you, Kasumi. You and Yukari are actually the same size

[thorn nimbus]

I wonder if Yukari's Skeleton Model would work for Kasumi

Even tho it'll have a different pose stance there... 🤔

[kindred comet]

you would have to rig her to her skeleton

[thorn nimbus]

Ah right, that is true there

[ruby adder]

Her legs were almost the same thickness as Kasumi's, and I thought, “She really is a future model and actress.”

[native elk]

Hmm....is it possible to get Yukiko and Rise's models in GFD?

[spice grotto]

That’s crazy

[craggy ice]

I think I'll use the combination of
yukiko dress for winter -> rise dress for midwinter -> fuuka dress for summer

I won't use the rise midwinter uniform since I'm a fan of the classic school uniforms, and it seems like shujin provided a jacket for them to wear over their uniforms

besides it keeps the same scarf and gloves from sumire

[spice grotto]

Oh?

[thorn nimbus]

Wonder if the Scarf and Gloves for Sumire will be either Blue or Purple there 👀

[craggy ice]

they're pink

on both of them

[thorn nimbus]

In that case, I'd like Kasumi to keep the pink/red scarf and pink/red gloves on while Sumire can be changed as Blue or Purple on her scarf and gloves lol

[normal mural]

once released/updated would we be able to mix and match? i want to go with yukari's winter casual with rise's midwinter casual and fuuka's summer dress LOL

[ruby adder]

Whyyyyy😱

[zealous fjord]

It's the shadow texture I think. If you click on the mesh and go to shading, you'll find something like that

Select the two Shadow Texture blocks and delete them

Unless you have a shadow texture made specifically for this mesh

[ruby adder]

Since there's no texture for the shadow map, I'd been putting a dummy shadow texture(1px x 1px white) in the node. is this bad move?

[zealous fjord]

I'd remove it, just in case

I've been copying materials from existing models and assigning them to the new meshes. Then, I've removed the shadow texture

The model won't a dedicated shadow texture, but the shadow of other objects will still show on it

Also, those P4D/P3D already have some kind of shadow textures in their diffuse

[spice grotto]

Still makes me wonder why Atlus just didn’t use the models from P3D

Would’ve been easier

[ruby adder]

Yay! Thank you!

[kindred comet]

Kinda

If you're using the textures from someone else's dump (I forgot whos but theres a dl with all the shadow maps applied) then they could have the shadow maps applied

But generally they do not

You can just bake them manually into the diffuse though if you wanted to

[zealous fjord]

Well, works well enough with what we have here

Skirt wideness has been adjusted, no longer clips with the hands

I've also adjusted the arms a bit

[ruby adder]

GFDStudio displays it fine, but it crashes when loaded in P5R.
Unreal Engine's models are seriously...

[plucky rapids]

probably shader crash, cbt bypasses some of those but u still want to fix them
easiest way is just borrow a material from a regular game outfit and just change the textures to those of ur model

[normal mural]

CUUUUUTEEE

[zealous fjord]

I managed to fix some clipping and holes around the neck

[rain tangle]

I'm sure this has been discussed already, but I noticed that Jokers mask still shows up when you instakill/run over a shadow

[sonic finch]

If we're looking at more models, I found these from Tokyo Mirage Sessions and I think they'd be cute for Kasumi, could even be recoloured and stuff to fit (these are preview images from the post)

One's based on Rei from Persona Q and the other are just casual outfits

Blender is absolute anathema to me but if the magic Blender wizards can figure out why loading one of them creates a Silent Hill monster like in fig 4 I could share where I got them as they're from Model's Resource

though I also understand there's like a lot of outfits now

[inland linden]

the tshirt could be used as a better fit for her pjs ^_^

[sonic finch]

Ooo yeah that's true

[normal mural]

the second one would be cute as an alternative summer casual

[sonic finch]

That's what I was kinda thinking, nice bright colours for summer

[spice grotto]

Definitely suits summer

Tsubasa’s training outfit can be for Kasumi’s sportswear

[sonic finch]

If people want to take a look

The t-shirt and shorts is 1
the pink top and white dress is 4

(https://archive.vg-resource.com/thread-31505.html source here)

[spice grotto]

Ok hear me out Stella Grace

[sonic finch]

I love that outfit so much but they don't have the Encore ones ripped
If you can find a model for it though it'd be amazing too

[spice grotto]

In game model right?

[sonic finch]

Yeah
Or a good enough recreation someone could use
as the source only has the base version ones and not Encore

[spice grotto]

Nooooo! I tried searching

[sonic finch]

It's so sad as the game has so many pretty outfits... but at least I hope we can use the casual and workout somehow

[kindred comet]

@ruby adder for your costume mods I would recommend uploading them to a new GB page. I think theyre on the JP overhaul page but that might be easily overlooked by non JP players and I think it would be nice to have a full page dedicated to your costume models

[ruby adder]

Yes, that's what I plan to do.
I'll move it to the dedicated add-on page within a few days.

[spice grotto]

Atleast they have Ellie’s outfits

[sonic finch]

[spice grotto]

And some fire emblems

[bold shadow]

So good 🔥

[zealous fjord]

Before/after:

Still need to adjust some clipping

But I need some sleep

[spice grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/satono-diamond-its-peak-peak-uma-musume-uma-musume-pretty-derby-gif-14473982584760202424

[sonic finch]

[sonic finch]

damn you blenderrr

[kindred comet]

i'd say nuke the knee highs, they look weird with the boots 😔

or you could try just making them into leggings

hard to visualize if that would look much better though

[spice grotto]

nice fuzzy boots

[bold shadow]

I like this idea

Good compromise

[kindred comet]

@pallid plover could you purge the past few messages

idk if this server has a bot to do it

basically just nuke the pointless argument above

[pallid plover]

it probably does but what am i purging

[bold shadow]

Just purge the argument yeah

[pallid plover]

uhhh how far am i going

[kindred comet]

purge everything after this pls

[pallid plover]

gimme a bit to figure it out lmao

[kindred comet]

thanks

[bold shadow]

Rip I'm gonna need to rewrite my support for the leggings idea

[pallid plover]

had to do a manual purge. i don't appreciate having to do that.

take stupid arguments over semantics elsewhere. this thread is about kasumi as protag and if you are going to start a pointless argument, don't.

(please also keep these threads on topic in general. both this one and rose+violet oftentimes get off topic and it makes it hard to discuss the mods themselves)

[craggy ice]

@kindred comet the creature

i'm dying oh my god

how this happened: setting joker and sumire to slot 1

[kindred comet]

idk how that even happens

[urban anvil]

i remember that used to happen a lot it was so funny

[kindred comet]

its weird since i didnt put any anims in p5ressentials

so they shouldnt be loading them if the slot isnt 1

it never happened to me so i guess its just something some people have

[spice grotto]

what da

[craggy ice]

i was testing joker over sumire + kap and i had both sumire and joker set to slot 1 since you had sumire on slot 1

i didn't know it'd cause conflicts

i just changed the folder name to 2 and set sumire to slot 2

[spice grotto]

oh ok that was freaky

[kindred comet]

it doesnt

[craggy ice]

huh

just a spontaneous bug then ig

[strange vector]

So, this dependency (At least i think that's what it is) just showed up. Can anyone educate me on what exactly it does?

[kindred comet]

it merges bustupparam so mods that edit bustups don't conflict with each other and cause issues

[strange vector]

So in short: Turn it on.

Thanks.

[kindred comet]

Yw

[strange vector]

Also, should i move it up the load order?

[plucky rapids]

yeah

[ruby adder]

Finally managed to export from .uasset to .gmd and get it working in P5R.
How do fix the bag's clipping?

[kindred comet]

you cant

you can adjust the outfit with the bag in mind but it will pretty much always clip in some way, it's not really possible to fix without causing issues for morgana

[ruby adder]

Damn , Morgana... I'll forgive because he're cute.

[zealous fjord]

Looks like I missed something while I was sleeping. I don't want to restart the argument, but you guys would prefer black leggings instead of the knee-high socks?

[craggy ice]

no keep it on the very bottom

it merges everything above it

[craggy ice]

i think you can make it a config option

like the white vs blue ribbon for the fuuka dress

(bc people will be unsatisfied either way)

[kindred comet]

although i do think too much granularity isnt a good thing and at some point users will have to just suck it up

also the argument wasnt about that specifically so dw about it

[kindred comet]

it really just depends on how many options you have though

but imo just nuke the knee high/thigh highs or turn them into leggings

[zealous fjord]

Alright, I'll add both, but this is very likely the last time I add two variants.
I've refrained from recoloring Kasumi outfits for story purposes and because I would be asked to make every color in existence

[kindred comet]

yeah i dont blame you tbh

i wouldve just added one if i was adding it to my mod

way too many things to maintain

[ruby adder]

I just wore knee-highs for visual reference, so I don't really care about them.
(Plus, those boots looked like they'd be super stuffy...)

Should I prepare a lining mesh inside the skirt?

[kindred comet]

Hmm yeah I'd recommend that

[open gull]

From the looks of it, her vanilla model (C0010_001_00.GMD) has some inner lining, so you could probably just copy that.

[thorn nimbus]

Wew I even noticed the clipping part with her Yukata like this which sad it can't be fixed there rip

[craggy ice]

this didn't have anything to do with the slots. I'm getting it consistently now

[kindred comet]

something is probably loading those anims even though they shouldnt be

doubt its my mod

[craggy ice]

hmm may be a mod menu thing

[kindred comet]

if it was it'd be happening to me to

[craggy ice]

since it's only happening directly after I call an event and spawn in the test field

[kindred comet]

well like

it wouldnt make any sense for it to be a mod menu thing

mod menu doesnt contain any anims

[craggy ice]

I've only got kap, long hair models, long hair glasses, and Joker over sumire in that order that edit allat

[kindred comet]

can you gimme your full modlist

i guess i might as well troubleshoot this

[craggy ice]

fuck lemme get up rq

[kindred comet]

(this is slightly unrelated, its because i put her model in mod menu files iirc)

[craggy ice]

the creature part 2

[kindred comet]

but yeah this is using joker anims

so idk whats making yours use yoshizawa's

wait

[kindred comet]

what should be happening there?

like is the issue that joker's model is there when you have kap on and slot_1 set

or is the issue yoshizawa anims playing when slot 1 isnt set on joker

[craggy ice]

yes

wait no

slot one is set on joker

[kindred comet]

nao smiley

wha

oh its probably cbt's debug field

idk i dont use the one in current cbt

i used an edited version

[plucky rapids]

i dont think cbt debug npc should matter?

[kindred comet]

it does, that bf sets the player model

[craggy ice]

debug npc isn't loading anyway... lol

[plucky rapids]

it shouldnt actually edit sumire model or anims at all, just place her on the specific field

[kindred comet]

it sets the player model

iirc

either that or im getting it confused with bgm but i swear it set the player model

guess im redownloading cbt

[plucky rapids]

back in the days before costume framework it would force jonkler strikers outfit but idr if it still does

[craggy ice]

this didn't happen until i downloaded joker over sumire so

[kindred comet]

idk how it would even be a joker over sumire issue though

[craggy ice]

me either

[kindred comet]

i didnt put anything in 0001

[craggy ice]

it could be the glasses or long hair models

[kindred comet]

it cant

[kindred comet]

it might be forcing the dancing model although idk

[craggy ice]

what about the compatibility patch

[kindred comet]

all that does is edit the battle gap

[craggy ice]

it always forces the dancing model in the mod menu

[kindred comet]

yeah so its something the newer cbt debug npc bf does

[craggy ice]

sometimes it's the pt outfit

when i use kasumi over protag it's the pt outfit and default jonkler it's the dancing outfit

[kindred comet]

ok i dont feel like redownloading this

could you go to

p5r.enhance.cbt\OptionalModFiles\DEBUGNPC.CPK\CPK\FIELD\INIT

and send over FINI_000_100.bf

[craggy ice]

[kindred comet]

thanks

wait you sent me bf.flow

not .bf

[craggy ice]

yeah

...do you want the raw bf lol

[kindred comet]

yes 😭

[kindred comet]

i said .bf

smh...

[craggy ice]

woah discord embedded that

[kindred comet]

yeah it embeds bf for some reason

[craggy ice]

it would've been the same when you decompiled it...

[kindred comet]

no bcs it uses functions from cbt

which ast doesnt have

and also i wanted to load it ingame

[craggy ice]

oh

[ruby adder]

I added a lining. I think the skirt itself turned out pretty well.
Though her hand is clipping in there...🤔

[kindred comet]

yeah, you could try resizing the skirt if you want but clipping is inevitable

dont worry about it too much

[craggy ice]

in the video I sent you can kind of hear the tail end of it but the first time the creature™ popped up I almost shit my pants laughing

[kindred comet]

[craggy ice]

idk what is so comical about a midget jonkler using kasumi's run animation

[kindred comet]

yeah like i thought it does set the player model

also the bag clips on joker as well

[craggy ice]

interesting

idk if this brings me closer to why debug npc isn't showing up though

[kindred comet]

i think ur game is just cursed tbh

what the hell

well it seems to be fine for me

no idea why its loading the phantom suit and not the dancing outfit though

well whateverr

i didnt like the bgm change anyway so ive just been sticking with an editing version

[plucky rapids]

does sumi protag replace dancing outfit

[kindred comet]

also yeah debug npc looks fine to me

[kindred comet]

with CF yeah, but only in the costumes folder

[plucky rapids]

hmh

[kindred comet]

i cant get it to even load the dancing outfit anyway

so idk whats going on there

its just always loading leotard

[plucky rapids]

i think if outfit is set to one that doesnt exist cf forces phantom suit

[kindred comet]

[plucky rapids]

idr for sure though

[kindred comet]

well i cant reproduce the issue anyway

so its probably a moment

isnt high priority anyway since it only happens in the debug field

although even then raven cant get the debug npc to appear so its probably not related to my mods anyway

[craggy ice]

[kindred comet]

yeah it loves to do that

[craggy ice]

I usually get blue after calling an event

[kindred comet]

env moment

[craggy ice]

I think my setup is cursed

[kindred comet]

anyways try replacing FINI_000_100.bf in cbt with this one

see if that does anything

and make sure debug npc is enabled ofc

[craggy ice]

I'll do so in the morning I need sleep

[kindred comet]

stay up all night banging your head repeatedly

[craggy ice]

morning... ig it's technically morning

[kindred comet]

the true modding experience

[craggy ice]

fuuuck no

[ruby adder]

@zealous fjord Will add this outfit to the summer school outfit?

[zealous fjord]

Sure, you can send it to me

[ruby adder]

I'll prepare it and send it over.

[zealous fjord]

The black legging is actually so much better than the knee high socks

Yeah, I really don't want to have to handle two versions, so I'll just keep the leggings

[ruby adder]

I made a refreshing style for her yukata for the fireworks festival.
Kinda feel like wearing that NPC gal's yukata outfit...

[zealous fjord]

Ahah, nice

Yeah, I remember spending a lot of time trying to find a color for the kimono/yukata

Btw, here are the Yukari casual models for Sumire

I'll think I'm going to update the alt models with the models we've made for now.
I'll make another update with the other models later, I need a break

[ruby adder]

It's truly a masterpiece!

[ruby adder]

The yukata and summer school outfit, I'll be submited in about 2 to 3 hours.
The weight of the yukata doesn't take normal animation into account though...

[zealous fjord]

No problem, I'll take a look at them later. Need a little break
Also, I want to investigate the issue with the Futaba hangouts in R&V

[ruby adder]

@zealous fjord Send the GMD.
This marks a temporary conclusion for now.

[zealous fjord]

Thanks! I'll have a look at them later!

[bold shadow]

So fire

[ruby adder]

The costume for “Kasumi as Protagonist” has been moved to its dedicated add-on GBpage.
Please let us know if you find any issues.

https://gamebanana.com/mods/626358

[thorn nimbus]

So just want to make sure, Sumire/Violet herself can wear that outfit right? 👀

Because I've been wanting to see a Sumire/Violet differentiation of her wearing different outfits there!

[zealous fjord]

Technically, yes. But the mods only allow protag Kasumi to wear them.
For Sumire, the files would need to be moved to another directory to override Sumire's models. Also, her bustups will be unchanged

[thorn nimbus]

Ah I see there

and I assume, Sumire's files that moves to another directory and overwrite Sumire's models would be a lot of work similar to her bustups 🤔

[kindred sonnet]

will the summer school uniform get ported over to R&V?

[bold shadow]

The what

[zealous fjord]

Yes, but in the next update. I need a little break

[kindred sonnet]

i may slow this fresh run down then since I just started summer. and I am working on a few other jrpgs i just recently got

[bold shadow]

There is a new summer school outfit?

[kindred sonnet]

its further up

[kindred comet]

I just realized I never actually released the transparent logo

[zealous fjord]

Speaking of logo:
@ruby adder There's a typo in your model mod thumbnail. It should be "Another"

And "Costume" without a "s"

[plucky rapids]

its a costume pack though, innit?
so it should be costumes plural and the word "another" should just be replaced entirely

[kindred comet]

While im at it heres some bonus stuff

[plucky rapids]

"additional midwinter costumes" or smth

[zealous fjord]

Yeah, another is singular. "Other midwinter costumes", "Alternate midwinter costumes", etc

"New midwinter costumes"

[kindred comet]

Think its a reference to -another version-

[plucky rapids]

idk i think thatd scan if there was bgm involved but

[kindred comet]

also are the normals inside the jacket still borked

yeah they are, i thought zylvos fixed them?

[zealous fjord]

Yes, fixed here
https://discordapp.com/channels/746211612981198989/1094412112576651314/1426583339061481527

[kindred comet]

pain

okay that should be good

[zealous fjord]

I fixed that stuff (alongside a lot of other things) in the .7z I sent a while ago

[kindred comet]

what were the other fixes?

[zealous fjord]

Material, bust size, neck vertex groups and the fur thickness

[kindred comet]

yeah then i'd probably just use the ones from your zip then

[zealous fjord]

Yes, the vertex groups in particular prevent the neck from clipping during animations (very noticeable on the earlier models)

[kindred comet]

Oh and also there should be a Costumes folder so the alt midwinter costume models are actually used when selecting them

Rn I think it'll probably just use the default ones

[kindred comet]

@zealous fjord do you think you could resize the yukari boots a bit to be closer if not 1:1 with the original yukari version?

you'll just have to chop some the leg mesh off and merge it with the socks model

atm they look a little comically large

this is a somewhat rough attempt (i literally eyeballed it for both)

[bold shadow]

Not bad

Definitely better than the default one imo

[kindred comet]

also maybe her skin could be edited a bit, she looks a little pale

the earings should probably be recolored too

they look skin colored

[zealous fjord]

Maybe. I made a quick attempt and I think I'll need to split the boot into two meshes to move them a bit. Resizing them makes them closer

I'll look into this later

[kindred comet]

don't resize them with objects mode

resize them in edit mode

and just select the individual boot with L

[zealous fjord]

That's what I was thinking of doing, but can I input the size instead of using the mouse? I'm afraid the boots won't be symmetrical without that

nvm, found it

Well, I have to go to sleep now. I'll see what I can do later

[kindred comet]

you could input the values by typing the numbers

that window isn't needed (although it is useful regardless)

but yeah

[craggy ice]

i'm trying to replace the ribbon in the yukiko winter casual and i'm pretty sure i did everything right but it's still doing ts

the green ribbon didn't match and i didn't like it

[kindred comet]

it has different uvs

[craggy ice]

huh

[kindred comet]

the ribbon has different uv mapping than the regular ribbon in her other outfits

[craggy ice]

ok so how do i change it

[kindred comet]

use the other ribbon model

like from her school uniform

[craggy ice]

k

what's it called

[kindred comet]

only issue is it wont be the same shape

[kindred comet]

C0001_001

[craggy ice]

oh no not the uniform i meant the ribbon

[kindred comet]

idk hair or something

you could also just recolor the texture

[craggy ice]

i yoinked the material from her regular ribbon and that's what happened

[kindred comet]

yoink the mesh, not the material

[craggy ice]

er which would that be under

[kindred comet]

....c0001_001

[craggy ice]

no i mean

[kindred comet]

u know what just send me ur model

[craggy ice]

like is undr the models folder

ok

[kindred comet]

im not good at explaining

[kindred comet]

yes

[craggy ice]

ok i think i got it

[kindred comet]

[craggy ice]

fff didn't do anything

lemme do something else

nnnnope

ok now it's a little fucked

well here's what i did if you wanan fuck with it go ahead

[kindred comet]

[craggy ice]

wh

[kindred comet]

so did you wanna preserve the shape or

[craggy ice]

idrc either way

[kindred comet]

well just steal the ribbon from her uniform then

[craggy ice]

do what's easiest

[kindred comet]

wow my game must be messed up, idk why but the calendar transition almost never plays now

[craggy ice]

that's concerning

[kindred comet]

its been doing this for a while i guess i just now noticed

[kindred comet]

kind of a good thing tbh

lets me time travel backwards with ease

and i dont have to see the calendar anim after every night

still plays for important days though

[craggy ice]

why the fuck are my config options broken

on my main mod but not my long hair versions???

oh my. that might be why

[kindred comet]

🟥

[craggy ice]

turns out it was vs code having a stroke

now i have no clue what it is

[zealous fjord]

This is what's going on. They're not the same ribbon, so of course the textures won't match both. You actually have to delete the green ribbon mesh and copy a red ribbon mesh into the Yukiko model. Then, you just need to parent the red ribbon the Yukiko model and it'll work

[craggy ice]

sadly that is beyond me... lol

[zealous fjord]

Do you want to learn? 😉

[craggy ice]

ffff

uhh

do i have blender downloaded

i do

uhh i jsut don't know how to use it

fff my config options still aren't working

[zealous fjord]

I'll try to explain it when I get home later today. If you want to start early, you can look for OmariHaru comment in my Alternate models mod page. Their explanations taught me how to add the mole to the model (and so, change the face to real Kasumi)

[craggy ice]

i'll do it tomorrow. i'ts like 2 am rn

[ruby adder]

While I was sleeping and taking care of personal matters, it seems various issues have come up...
I'm currently checking them all at once.

[kindred comet]

Thats what I've been saying

[kindred comet]

its really, really easy

download blendertoolsforgfs

import both that mesh and the school uniform mesh

delete the ribbon from the winter outfit

copy the one over from the school uniform

set the armature as the winter outfit one

god i need to track down what mod is messing with my flags

something set the pause screen hide request bitflag to on

okay the calendar thing is a bitflag

which something disabled

for some reason

[ruby adder]

I have fixed the add-ons to the extent that could verify.

[ruby adder]

I'm testing the game from New Game to check how social status affects progression, but I wonder if there's any way to reset just the social status to its initial value when using carryover data...

[plucky rapids]

https://gamebanana.com/mods/580462

[ruby adder]

Thank you!!
There are a lot of people here like ”Doraemon”.

[thorn nimbus]

Ooh this would be nice for NG+ Rose & Violet there 👀

[paper gull]

I think it is! I used it for my first (carried over social stats too) and enjoyed it.

[thorn nimbus]

Ooh then I may as well use it when using Kasumi as Protag Mod to carry over to NG+ Rose & Violet~

[paper gull]

Don't make the mistake of accidentally starting either a standard new game or standard ng+ playthrough. It's specifically like, no to the first option then yes to the second to select stuff? I think. something like that. I've messed it up twice for two playthroughs lol and didnt notice till like, 4/12

i can read it just was confusing bc i hadnt seen the mod desc for a while

[zealous fjord]

Here is a hastily thrown-together tutorial. I don't know if you've already used Blender, so you can skip the parts you already know about (like importing/exporting).

[kindred comet]

i think you forgot the part where you change the armature modifier to be that of the target mesh

[zealous fjord]

I never needed to do that

[kindred comet]

weird

[zealous fjord]

Somehow, it knows it's a ribbon. Same for the face, eyes, etc.

[craggy ice]

thank you zylvos you are the 🐐

I'm in class rn but I'll do it when I get home

[thorn nimbus]

Oof good advice there, I'll keep that in mind 🙏

[kindred comet]

its moreso that blender generally relies on the armature modifier to know what armature the mesh is linked to

i guess gfstools probably just does it automatically when exporting

[zealous fjord]

Maybe because it comes from another Kasumi model? I don't think this would work if I tried to add the ribbon to a Ann model (for example)

[kindred comet]

thats a different armature

as in the name is different