(P5R PC) Kasumi as Protagonist

[tawny fable]

And thanks for the info I didn’t consider the self promotion thing when thinking about this.

@kindred comet I do have another question why is there so many costume files in your mod? Are they all for different things?

[kindred comet]

costume framework

[tawny fable]

Ahh

[kindred comet]

switch doesnt have cf so just

ignore the ones that arent vanilla

[tawny fable]

Delete them

I don’t know which are and aren’t vanilla unfortunately

And I’m not sure what that means do you mean the base game right?

Sorry for the dumb question I’m tired and I don’t think strait around those times

[kindred comet]

yeah, base game

https://amicitia.miraheze.org/wiki/Persona_5_Royal/dataR.cpk/model/character/0001

refer to this page

[tawny fable]

So how do I tell the ones that are base game to the ones that aren’t

Oh thanks

[kindred comet]

also im gonna be real you would probably be better off asking these kinds of questions in a help channel or smth

i dont really want to spoonfeed information and ive clearly stated im not really involved in the switch port (nor did i ask for one), i just gave permission

[tawny fable]

Alright I’ll be working on it it might be a while before the port is made though

To work that is

Well night

[kindred comet]

Gn!

[violet seal]

Where do I find this post?

nooo why

I don’t even have the mod on

[violet seal]

https://i.imgur.com/HzS1jkZ.png

the hell is this face lol

[sonic finch]

https://tenor.com/view/asgore-run-over-triki-troy-deltarune-gif-17995477417765303444

[violet seal]

Lollllll

[hollow portal]

THE FLOOF'S CHARIOT CANNOT BE STOPPED

me and the bestie chilling

[astral chasm]

reminds me of beta haru

[violet seal]

Oh?

[small stream]

neptune you gonna add a mole for kasumi?

[warm otter]

The other assets used in the mod seem to be based on kasumi's design (no mole) so I probably won't to be consistent. This mod in particular doesn't alter the overarching story so I'm not sure what exactly the intent would be there in regards to Kasumi vs Sumire design. It would be easy to add though if there were plans to make changes like that. And if other mods that do alter the story want a version with a mole I would be happy to provide them

[hollow portal]

THAT'S INSANELY COOL HOLY SHIT

[small stream]

there is one rose and violet

[empty willow]

the whole mod has those pictures to be drawn with kasumi in place of ren, i get unreasonably happy when i see one of them

[hollow portal]

did you see the bonus arts in the thieves' den?

if not go see them

bangers

[empty willow]

i don’t think so no

i’ll have to check it out when i can

[hollow portal]

it's nothing major but it is pretty funny how i just change outfit like that
I do want to know the cause, though ;;

[lilac needle]

I‘m pretty sure the uniform changing in the evening to casual clothes is normal

[void merlin]

thats normal

even in regular p5

at night time and during sundays (and holidays) he changes out of his school uniform into casual clothes

[hollow portal]

wait huh

i am stupid then

i never noticed LMAO

[violet seal]

https://x.com/azuzoren/status/1949807333413953836?s=61

azu 🐟 (@azuzoren)

i think i understand why p5 models eyes are so far apart now

X · Jul 28, 2025, 12:21 PM

[urban anvil]

they lowkey have no clue how her mask works lmao

[violet seal]

It doesn’t

[urban anvil]

but like

[violet seal]

But like what

[urban anvil]

they put it over her hair for no reason

[violet seal]

lol

[urban anvil]

I imagine if they made the mask go around her head and not around her hair it would look moderately more correct

[violet seal]

I mean it’s a floating mask connected to nothing that summons a persona

Don’t think it really matters

[urban anvil]

Yeah its just goofy lol

[woven maple]

dont know if this is a bug or not but when I use Kotone outfit it plays both the original battle bgm for the male protag from P3 just thought I might say it here but if there is somewhere else I can put this problem then I will

[kindred comet]

thats intended, hamuko/kotone only really has like 2 battle themes and when it was just p3p wiping all out/q2 pull the trigger it got very repetitive

which is why i ended up adding danger zone, mosq's mixes, and mass destruction fes to the pool

MD -fes- fits anyways since its technically the aigis battle theme and we can assume the answer happens after p3p

admittedly theyd probably do a remix of wiping all out but... yk 😝😝😝

also md fes slaps a lot soooo

[violet seal]

@kindred comet Where do I find the hot fix for the every one at the jazz club being ryuji bug? I can’t find it

[kindred comet]

https://discord.com/channels/746211612981198989/1393354840796823623

[violet seal]

Which one is the fix I need

[kindred comet]

the latest version posted

[kindred comet]

i should probably mention dont drag and drop the 7z files posted there into reloaded

open the cbt mod folder and drag and drop to overwrite the old files

or just wait until the cbt update goes on gb

modding is kind of the worst because all of my p5r saves are random scattered saves from various dates i use for testing and if i overwrite one of them with new data it would make my life more annoying

really missing how easy it is to change profiles on switch

you can just go into appdata and move around save folders/files

but i yearn to be lazy

i also have no idea where my ng+ clear data went

[kindred comet]

apparently i forgot to edit the save animation

i never caught it because i would literally never save when i was testing

was wondering what AF_022 even was

there

[oak field]

Oh thank GOODNESS. I was pet peeved over this for the longest, but I just kept pushing on. 😭

[amber portal]

Has anyone been having issues with Show to Remember not playing properly and just glitching?

[kindred comet]

idk what causes that, the audio never borked for me

@amber portal can you screenshot your modlist

if I had to guess it's due to HCA unencrypted playback but I've literally seen and experienced no issues with it

[amber portal]

I'm asking for someone else rn so just give me one sec to get it from them

[kindred comet]

I'm going to pre-emptively say if Ryo Framework is below version 2.9.0 that's probably why

if not ping Ryo

since I'll probably won't check my phone for a bit

[kindred comet]

need a screenshot with the version numbers included

[amber portal]

Looks like Ryo was outdated

Thank you

[kindred comet]

Okay thank god it was just that

I'll update the faq later today with that information

(so people can ignore it and then complain about it)

[junior stream]

Working hard as always! Thank you for everything you have done for this mod Wisteria!

[reef musk]

oh i would've reported this but I just figured it was something you were aware of and couldn't change

oopsie

[kindred comet]

funnily enough it's probably one of the easiest animations to preview/check ingame

[reef musk]

https://tenor.com/view/ironic-star-wars-chode-gif-5274592

[wheat python]

hi, when i try to configure the main mod i get this error and r2 crashes

[kindred comet]

did you use a test build version

[wheat python]

in the past yeah

[kindred comet]

that would be why

#1094412112576651314 message

[wheat python]

i dont see a config.json file

only a modconfig

[kindred comet]

did you watch the video

[wheat python]

yeah

the Config.json file isnt in the folder

nvm im a liar here it is

ty!

[kindred comet]

yw!

[violet seal]

Is there a mod for royal that lets me toggle UI on and off?

[void merlin]

Yeah, if you search up ui toggler in reloaded or gamebanana you should see it

[violet seal]

Cool thanks

[violet seal]

https://i.imgur.com/aVwEmvG.jpeg

[knotty aurora]

Robbing hoods

Still feel like ||3rd semester akechi should be able to swap between it and loki||

[kindred comet]

would be cool but wouldn't make sense narratively

[open gull]

Why not, outta curiosity? He is a Wild Card, after all.

[violet seal]

I literally wanted to do this

[violet seal]

Well gameplay wise Loki is meant to be his confidant level 10 awakening persona like the others

https://i.imgur.com/f3ISR85.jpeg

holy crap ive never seen this

[knotty aurora]

“But you trusted no one, so you only got two Personas: one for your lies, and one for your hate. Still, you thought that was enough, right?”

[kindred comet]

he has no need for Robin Hood after shido arc

or well even after saes palace

[violet seal]

I think logically after he turns him self psychotic he loses Robin access to Robin Hood

[kindred comet]

Loki is his true self, Robin Hood is only there for illusion

also I wager Robin Hood is probably weaker than Loki anyway

[dry igloo]

that is wrong

[violet seal]

In terms of stats he is

[dry igloo]

both are his

[kindred comet]

technically yes but it's pretty clear Robin Hood is mainly illusion

partially what he believes ofc but that's a long repressed self

[violet seal]

He does look cool though

[kindred comet]

I more so mean canonically since I'd imagine he'd be weaker on purpose not to rouse suspicion or accidentally go overboard

also he's hater #1 so it makes sense for Loki to be stronger

[violet seal]

I mean he does have megidolan and megaton press or whatever it’s called

[dry igloo]

Robin hood is not an illusion tho

that is the face he shows to the world

[kindred comet]

yes but he uses Robin Hood for illusion

[violet seal]

Megaton raid I mean

Like Robin Hood is no Slough

He is a very good persona

He’s even stronger then yusuke and captain kid

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/megamitensei/images/1/11/P5X_Robin_Hood.png/revision/latest?cb=20250411220103

And he looks so damn cool

[violet seal]

https://i.imgur.com/sxBr8dZ.png

clean

[violet seal]

lol

[violet seal]

https://i.imgur.com/pLbarF6.png

the hell

[ruby adder]

I'd like to take on a Japanese translation job, but I've only just started studying mods and don't have much knowledge. I think I could do it if I was given instruction on how to edit.
In some cases, I might translate the English text in the game as a free translation.
I'm Japanese, but I can speak English conversationally.

[kindred comet]

That would be really appreciated, thank you so much! I have work in a bit but I'll DM you the details when I'm on my break or later today

[ruby adder]

currently working on translating it. I think can finish it quickly at this rate, but there are some things I won't know until I actually play the game, like whether the text will fit inside the speech bubbles. and such as whether the story makes sense before and after.

[tawny fable]

News for the switch port there has been little progress the skeleton still crashes the port thinking on ways to help with the memory limit issue any ideas would be helpful.

I’m gone to bed for the night I’ll check in the morning.

[solemn bone]

Is there a way to swap out the bag the protag wears or is it attached to the outfit?

[kindred comet]

its attached to the outfit, like in vanilla

shujin bag is used when in shujin clothes

casual brown bag is used while in casual clothes

and the blue bag is used when moving to yongen iirc

@open gull where did you get the cendrillon voice clips from for the protag awakening dialogue?

[open gull]

@short spade handled that, but I believe they're from Kasumi's awakening cutscene.

[short spade]

yeah i just grabbed the lines from that event

[kindred comet]

noted, I'll copy and paste those lines from JP then

(and all other localizations)

I hadn't realized until yesterday that there was awakening text, and moreover it was in a bf that I forgot existed

[steep scaffold]

I know Japanese too

Though Im not actually Japanese. So…

Guess thats Checkmate…

[violet seal]

https://i.imgur.com/d7zooCJ.png

huh lol

[violet seal]

https://i.imgur.com/qwq2wNE.jpeg

oh no its best boss time

[indigo crane]

I dont see Sae anywhere

[warm otter]

two more pieces of menu art done. Just two more left (The skills menu)

[kindred comet]

Looks great!!

I somehow managed to break the UI and make it always in jp

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1156979930635178026/1374169091572502588/image0.gif

nvm it was a cache issue

i think i accidentally launched the game while it was still redownloading the en.cpk

actually wiping the cache fixed an issue i was having anyway

kinda wish there was a more user-friendly way to wipe the cache in case someone runs into some random issue (even if unlikely)

[reef musk]

are these available for download :3

[warm otter]

Here's all the ones I've done so far

[reef musk]

[violet seal]

https://i.imgur.com/XvPqN5y.png

jeez everyone leveled up lol

[reef musk]

Satisfying

[violet seal]

https://i.imgur.com/qSUvuJt.png

nooooo infinite loading screen

[kindred comet]

Where?

[kindred comet]

Italian and Japanese localization have been added! Thank you to @inner trellis for the Italian localization and @ruby adder for the Japanese localization! They will be in the next update

[kindred comet]

@zealous fjord I made a small update to Cendrillon's animations for the awakening. She should no longer rumble around and go stiff. Place this in MODEL\CHARACTER\5901\EVENT if you'd like to use it

(also ignore the japanese voice over jumpscare, i toggled the eng voice patch by accident)

[zealous fjord]

Thanks! I'll add it to the next update.

[kindred comet]

i think someone asked for this in this thread or the r&v thread

will be in the next update :)

was really easy since mytamagos already made the miku costume, i just pasted the hair onto her PT outfit

[zealous fjord]

I've seen a bounty for it on Gamebanana. Probably for Sumire proper, but the model will work for both the protag and her

If you want to claim it

[kindred comet]

Yeah I left a comment on there

[indigo crane]

damn that looks good

[reef musk]

is it normal for Kasumi to have glasses here? (playing with default ponytail version)

[urban anvil]

yes

[hollow canyon]

I thought this mod couldnt get any better but you keep proving me wrong! 🤩

[trail topaz]

Kasumi miku

[mental nacelle]

Sumiku

[kindred sonnet]

thats her incognito outfit when shes suppose to be hiding

[reef musk]

yah I realised after I sent this, sorry

[kindred sonnet]

to be fair it threw me off to

so yeah

[reef musk]

thank you though

[kindred sonnet]

first time i ran the mod back in beta testing i ran with the longhair so I never noticed the change

when I ran again with pony tail I was confused

[solemn bone]

Is the randomized bgm thing a kasumi mod thing or one of its dependencies?
I tried turning off bgme battle themes in the costume framework but it still randomizes

[violet seal]

https://i.imgur.com/UP6er9v.jpeg

lol

I love prince akechi has voice clips for summoning Loki

[open gull]

Yea I low-key love that too.

Sorry. That was an Ikutsuki-level lame pun.

[swift ether]

I laughed so hard when I saw it as her incog outfit for the first time.

[violet seal]

Funny how he has quotes for his showtime too

Like “follow my lead!”

[kindred comet]

Well, after editing the charset, I finally got a bmd to compile for simplified chinese

not really ideal though since idk what im doing

@plucky rapids i see you've contributed to the AST repo, would you happen to know more info abt tsvs, how they work, how to make them, and why CHS's tsv is broken?

i opened an issue on the ast GH but i havent gotten any kind of response in like 2 months so i figured it might just be worth looking into myself

okay i think this is also just a straight up bug with ast

its throwing errors about characters that arent even in the msg files

like , ~ -

think the only way to fix it is to replace their full width versions with their english width versions in the tsv

wait no nvm

although it does seem to break with the current charset since it only has full width latin characters

even if your msg literally has none of those

that being said itd be nice if ast didnt break when theres non full width character equivalents (like . , ~ - etc)

well i got simplified chinese working

though this is more of a proof of concept until ast fixes the issue

i do wonder if theres a way to overwrite bf/bmd emu's charset by placing the modified tsv in my mod

tsv in case anyone wants it

anyways im just going to go ahead and push the new update, simplified chinese was already finished long before this update i just need AST and bmd/bf emu to update

[plucky rapids]

not personally, none of my prs are really related to charsets
i do know the simplified chinese charset was updated while localization framework was being worked on though idr who specifically did that part

@north bronze prob knows

[kindred comet]

maybe thats why

wonder if ast needs any characters used in a message header to be present in the charset, maybe thats why it would die when compiling despite there being no non full width (or any) latin characters in a message's contents

[dense prawn]

Yes, characters in the header need to be present in the charset, as well.

(TSVs are just tab-separated data, which AST uses as a format for compact character encodings.)

[kindred comet]

I see, hopefully something can be figured out to where both full width and regular width characters can be supported without overwriting the other in the tsv

That seems like the best solution, I kinda just replaced the full width latin characters with regular width (aside from punctuation) in the tsv which is very much just a bandaid fix

I did notice full width not working in korean as well I think?

Although there its not really an issue so much as a quirk

[kindred comet]

Installation guide now has JP subtitles, its all machine translated but hopefully it can get the point across

[trail topaz]

do we have people here who only speak japanese?

[plucky rapids]

i wish i knew enough to at least localize my own mods lol

[kindred comet]

Think we had a few JP players here but I've seen a fair amount of them in gb comments

[trail topaz]

ohh okay

[trail topaz]

im localizing P5X TW chapter 1 rn

[dense prawn]

An old thread on font editing (where the results are currently in use for Polish localization), if that's a helpful resource: https://discord.com/channels/746211612981198989/1275893664257802422

[kindred comet]

I pretty much would just need the simplified chinese tsv to overwrite the file emu ones

Not really a big deal though since that's more of a bandaid fix until ast updates

That being said I am curious if theres a way to load assets (like NAME.TBL) on a per language basis. Rn the equipment patch toggle has a NAME.TBL but the edits only show up in English. Everything else seems to have their vanilla names in their native language

[kindred sonnet]

Is there a way to move a costume over from rose and violet so I can use it on sumire?

[kindred comet]

party member sumire or my mod?

[kindred sonnet]

Party member sumire

For 3rd semester

[kindred comet]

make a sumire costume folder and copy the outfit into it

[swift ether]

Oh that is lovely news. I will remember that when I actually meet her, and aren't just occasionally loading final palace saves for costume checks

[kindred sonnet]

and where do I put the folder?

[kindred comet]

modDir/Costumes/Sumire

[kindred sonnet]

ty

[open gull]

At one point, I had her tiger print outfit set as her incognito model in my mod setup as a joke.

[kindred sonnet]

I would think that would make her stand out more

[solemn bone]

for unhardcodded romance should i just use the gay joker tag or female protagonist?

[kindred comet]

either of them should work, gay joker is probably safer since it makes less edits

I haven't ever really tested either of them though

[open gull]

I'm toying with the idea of renaming Raoul's unique Phantom Show skill to something like "Midnight Waltz" to fit with Violet's theme. Since the skill puts enemies to sleep, I think it fits. Could work as an optional toggle, but I'm thinking of adding it to the alternate personas mod since it fits with Ella.

[kindred comet]

I think Ella's skillset is literally just Satanaels so you're more than welcome to make one if you'd like, just be sure to edit the skillset from my mod to avoid any issues if you want me to add it into the toggle

[sonic finch]

If you name it Moonlight Waltz it's a cheeky reference to another Laura Post voiced character
(God I love Octopath)

[open gull]

Oh I should've clarified - I was referring to the alternate personas mod that puts Ella over Raoul instead of Satanael. It'll be a NAME.TBL edit, so it won't mess with skillsets.

[north bronze]

Do you mean like the [ brackets in the header? e.g. the start and end of [msg WhateverMessageName]?
If those actually do need to be in the charset then that would be a bug, yes. None of the is part of the actual BMD, it's just how script tools formats the file. It shouldn't need to be in the charset.

[north bronze]

There's no mechanism for this in script tools rn but in theory it's something that could be added, I think. The easier solution is to just stick with one in your files though.

I think you said something about bf/bmd emulator overriding the charset at some point (I can't find the message now). That's not a thing that it can do and I don't think I'd really want to add it.
With functions it makes sense since the assumption is you're either editing an unused function, so no other mod would use it anyway, or you're aliasing one so it wouldn't matter if another mod used its name. If you applied that to an entire charset I think the chance of breaking stuff between two mods goes way up. If you change from full width to half width then no other mod editing that file can use full width characters. At that point every mod needs to have this same override so the base charset should just be fixed/updated.

Ok, yeah I see how this is annoying. I can't work out what space it's complaining about lol (I'm trying to compile the one in your github issue). I think this is probably just a skill issue though. Could you send an example of a file that's broken due to characters that aren't actually in it? Is that the bug?

[violet seal]

think bro is stuck

[plucky rapids]

it probably is downloading, the progress bar in reloaded just sucks

[violet seal]

https://i.imgur.com/Sb75VrU.jpeg

i tghink the compendium is bugged, i cant make alice or a few other personas

[kindred comet]

Yeah, the msg header seems to need those characters in the tsv

[kindred comet]

Try using this

I do know the simplified chinese tsv doesnt have the space character in it (for some reason)

So literally nothing can compile as a result, even if it wasn't complaining about latin characters that arent in the message's content

actually heres the entire simplified chinese zip, some of this is still in english so i'd just ignore those

idk how much of this applies to traditional but iirc i was having some issues getting bmds to compile with that one too

[violet seal]

https://i.imgur.com/KiNnBnQ.png

fucking love this line

KILL THEM HEREWARD

[violet seal]

hereward and akeckis qoutes for him is so cool but you only get him for like 1 battle lol so lame

[dense prawn]

Are you sure about that? Message names are part of the BMD and get parsed in-game e.g. for events, in order to select the right one by major/minor ID (which aren't separate fields, for whatever reason). At least as far as I remember.

...Oh, unless you literally meant the brackets. Maybe I misread.

[kindred comet]

Those I have no idea

Kinda hard to compile an msg without the brackets

[steep scaffold]

Could Sumire have Joker's outfit? Or is that already a thing

[kindred comet]

Definitely possible but I'm no good with costumes, someone else would have to do it

[north bronze]

Yes, I meant the brackets literally. I know that the message name is included in the actual BMD. Brackets are just how script tools knows what's part of the header, same with the word msg, sel, or any of the message tags like [bup 1 1 1]. None of those are included verbatim in the file so there should be no need for charsets for them

Fwiw though I doubt (but can't say for sure) that the charset should matter for the message name since it's not something that's actually displayed to the player. I think they're always just in English anyway (from what I've seen)

[plucky rapids]

this isnt relevant but im curious now what youd do if you wanted like...actual brackets in the text of the message. is there like an escape character or...?

[north bronze]

I can't remember if there is, hopefully it's just / but idk. I feel like I saw an issue related to that on the script tools repo a long time ago

[north bronze]

Cool, I'll have a look at this some time in the next few days. Updating script tools to support mapping multiple characters to one in the charset probably is the way to go, as you kinda suggested. We'll see though

[kindred comet]

I don't remember what file it was specifically but I was getting errors for "T" in one of the msgs despite it being nowhere in the message content

I'll check again later tonight to see exactly which one it was but I assume it was complaining about a msg header

either that or it's seeing ghosts

I get off work in ~2 hours so hopefully I can check soon

[steep scaffold]

Hey that's fine. Just wanted to know

Joker's Costume is just sooo fire and swag. Sumire wearing it would go sooo hard.

Its why I use FeMC mods. For other characters having his Phantom costume

[kindred comet]

did a quick launch to get a log

cleared the cache too

this one is interesting to me

[19:12:13] [BF Builder] Failed to compile bf C:\Users\Wisty\Desktop\Reloaded-II-P3RE\Mods\p5rpc.modloader\Cache\P5R_zh-Hans\Files\tpnxhzdp.szp with source files: C:\Users\Wisty\Desktop\Reloaded-II-P3RE\Mods\p5rpc.kasumiasprotag\OptionalModFiles\Flowscript\Bath\BF\EVENT_DATA\SCRIPT\E700\E761_101.flow. This may be due to your mods not being translated. Error: Encoding P5R_CHS does not support character: D (D)

[s][vp 8 0 0 0 65535 0]感觉神清气爽！[n][f 1 3 65535][w][e]
[s][vp 8 0 0 0 65535 0]……[n][f 1 3 65535][w][e]
[s][vp 8 0 0 0 65535 0]……！[n][f 1 3 65535][w][e]
[s][vp 8 0 0 0 65535 0]瞥见了镜中的自己。[n]肌肤似乎更细腻了！[f 1 3 65535][w][e]

[msg MSG_002_0_0]
[s][vp 8 0 0 0 65535 0]……[n][f 1 3 65535][w][e]
[s][vp 8 0 0 0 65535 0]感觉头好晕……[n]好像泡过头了……[n][f 1 3 65535][w][e]

[msg MSG_HOT_DAY]
[s][vp 8 0 0 0 65535 0]今天好像做过头了……[n][f 1 3 65535][w][e]

[msg MSG_004_0_0]
[s][vp 8 0 0 0 65535 0]感觉非常神清气爽！[n][f 1 3 65535][w][e]
[s][vp 8 0 0 0 65535 0]药浴效果拔群……[n][f 1 3 65535][w][e]
[s][vp 8 0 0 0 65535 0]鼻尖还萦绕着舒缓的香气……[n][f 1 3 65535][w][e]

[msg MND_080_0_0]
[s][vp 8 0 0 0 65535 0]趁着凉之前回家吧……[n][f 1 3 65535][w][e]

[msg MND_081_0_0]
[s][vp 8 0 0 0 65535 0]虽然很想早点回家[n]但是动不了了……[n][f 1 3 65535][w][e]

the only "D" here is in "HOT_DAY"

and MND ofc

this is with the current tsv in bf/bmd emu

this one too

[19:12:14] Cannot Create File From C:\Users\Wisty\Desktop\Reloaded-II-P3RE\Mods\crifs.v2.hook\Bind\16436\R2\SCRIPT\FIELD\FSCR3210_010_000.BF! [19:12:14] [BF Builder] Failed to compile bf C:\Users\Wisty\Desktop\Reloaded-II-P3RE\Mods\p5rpc.modloader\Cache\P5R_zh-Hans\Files\kvpeyipy.xan with source files: C:\Users\Wisty\Desktop\Reloaded-II-P3RE\Mods\p5rpc.kasumiasprotag\OptionalModFiles\Flowscript\Bath\BF\FIELD\HIT\FHIT_009_002_00.flow. This may be due to your mods not being translated. Error: Encoding P5R_CHS does not support character: S (S)

FHIT_009_002_00.msg

[s][bup 0 3 0 0 0][f 4 10 65535 0 0][vp 8 0 0 0 －1 0]那么，吾辈就在这附近散步。[n]家里见吧。[n][w][e]```

anyways considering seemingly all of the charsets do support latin characters regardless, support for mapping multiple characters should fix this anyway. a little bit of a bandaid there but idk what languages would have 0 latin characters for this to be an issue

just thought i should mention that in case this issue is hard to fix

[dense prawn]

The extra weird part is that it's not the first Latin character in the script that's causing the issue... in both cases, it's the first Latin character after a _ that leads to the error 🤔

[violet seal]

https://i.imgur.com/v4odggp.jpeg

uhhhh wheres the floor lol

[north bronze]

This is really weird, something's definitely going wrong. Thanks for sending this, it should help a bunch when I get around to looking into this properly.

[kindred sonnet]

my last two runs of the game the floor in that fight has been missing

so its been before full release it was like that during testing and no one knows why

[snow aspen]

Hasn’t happened to me in a long time but that’s a CBT problem so you can bother Death about it

[kindred comet]

its a CBT issue and happens if you skip the cutscene

also do not bother death chaos about it

they already know about it and iirc said it can't be fixed easily

[snow aspen]

That part was a joke

[kindred sonnet]

So don't skip or just fight on invisible floor

[ruby adder]

I wonder if there are few Japanese users on this Discord. I'm creating a mod to optimize Japanese text for Kasumi, but I wonder if there's any demand for it.

[rough maple]

even if there isn't, someone out there will be happy to have it

[swift ether]

WISTERIA!!!! Thank you for your advice!!! I have a very oldddd Evangeline mod as well as some other old costume mods and now I just grab the gmd file, name it and put a folder next to joker!

I now have my tiny pilot costume for morgana in my Kasumi addons! (and probably any other unique ancient replace ones.

[craggy ice]

hey there, sometimes i get a crash with this error in the log infinitely repeating:

it may be one of my other mods but i suspect it's this one

[rough maple]

#1045463162452987924

Best bet is to post here

[craggy ice]

i'm reporting a specific bug for this mod

i'm not looking for help really. it only happens occasionally

i think it's a matter of issue vs bug report

[kindred comet]

where does it crash?

and what's your modlist

I have no idea what would be calling for C000

none of the events that were edited call for that model

[kindred sonnet]

sounds like a mod conflict

[craggy ice]

oh alright I'll check out my other mods then

[astral chasm]

hey Wist! There's some issue with addon collect. update... is there some other place I can download it?

GB is having this weird issue with some mods

dont know why

[kindred comet]

Check the mod page and scroll down until you see Google drive mirror

[earnest wave]

It might be a custom bonus tweaks issue?, im experiencing the same issue no matter what mods i have installed, it usually before it hits the title screen, and CBT had those model in the files, but im playing on linux

tried it without the files, it still does the same issue

tbf i only started getting this issue after sumi's protag title screen model was added in the main mod

[gleaming obsidian]

Quick question, who made the Black Leotard (Alt.) costume in the add-on pack? Some people were asking about having Sumire's metaverse outfit be distinct/different from protag Kasumi and I liked the way that one looked for her. I was going to try applying it to Sumire, but wanted to get permission first

[indigo obsidian]

it's from CBT no?

[gleaming obsidian]

Now that you mention that, yes. I do see it in there

[west cape]

Anyone know why this is showing Joker's portrait? Also yes I checked as costume's are set to Slot_1

Not sure if it's related but the Thieve's Guild prompt is also showing Joker's mask

Things were working before I updated to 1.0

[west cape]

Problem solved: I didn't have Persona Essentials up to date

[warm otter]

Finally finished all the menu art

pngs of all the art if anyone wants to look at them

[rough maple]

OOOOH

[cyan sun]

Peak

[craggy ice]

AAA she's so pretty!!!

added it to my mod folder. can't wait to see these in game :D

[rain tangle]

They should definitely be added as a config option like with the bustups :3 ❤️

[astral chasm]

so gorgeous 🥹

[kindred comet]

Looks amazing, thank you!! I'll add them as options in the next update

[kindred comet]

all I did was overwrite a model, not call for one that doesn't exist

try doing a clean install

[reef musk]

they're sooo beatiful, awesome work!

@kindred comet Grinch said you did the work on the audio for showtimes so I figure I'd let you know

Akechi's showtime doesn't have JP dialogue when it's happening, the ending does but not whilst they're actually doing it

all the other showtimes are normal and in Japanese though

[kindred comet]

yeahh I'm not doing a jp version, I would recommend asking count joecula

[craggy ice]

would you consider making this compatible with the colorful mod? I noticed that none of the phantom thieves had the colored masks, not just Kasumi

kind of like add a toggle similar to the one toggle that has kasumi's colored aoa portrait

[kindred comet]

Which colorful mod in particular?

if you mean EPIC party panel that's because it doesnt use spd merging (and i would need permission regardless)

idk if colorful party panel is the same but given its quite old it probably is

pretty much the same answer as here

[plucky rapids]

i feel like spd merging is so barely even mentioned that id forget it exists if i hadnt lurked the file emulation concept thread while it was in development

[craggy ice]

ah yeah thanks the colorful pack is the mod I was using

I wasn't referring to the skills anyway, the party panel is what was bothering me

hadn't even noticed the skills, tbh

[craggy ice]

the file emulation is so cool but I feel like no mods use it...

aside from pak emulation

[plucky rapids]

what are you talking about, ppl emulate bfs and bmds all the time

[craggy ice]

maybe it's just that i use a lot of older mods

[kindred comet]

my mod uses it....

[kindred comet]

that can be done, i'll just need to get permission from the mod author

@native urchin @wispy temple (hopefully im pinging the right peopple) would you be okay with me including assets from epic/colorful pack as an option in kasumi as protag? it'll be done for compatibility reasons and credit will be given ofc

[kindred comet]

tbh the method is kinda obscure anyway

since you need personaspritetools which i didnt even know existed until i looked into file emulation

[native urchin]

sure idm 👍

[kindred comet]

thank you!

By the way, I have an SPD emulator version of EPIC if you'd like to have it or upload it

[trail topaz]

Sweet

[craggy ice]

are you gonna edit the skills while you're at it too? or just the party panel

[kindred comet]

skill/weapon icons i can edit if given permission from haytham to include colorful assets

[craggy ice]

ah i see it's the other dev

[trail topaz]

I feel like haytham probably will give permission, don’t see any reason why they wouldn’t

[kindred comet]

that is up to them, they are not my assets to yoink

[trail topaz]

Might replace the game banana version with this tbh

[trail topaz]

Oh I know but I don’t see any reason for them to say no

Though wouldn’t all mod textures legally be owned by atlus? If they’re modified versions of vanilla assets

[kindred comet]

maybe, im not a lawyer

[trail topaz]

I think technically they’re owned by Altus, but this is a moral question and not a legal one considering modding is very grey area

[trail topaz]

I mean asking permission is a moral thing btw

[kindred comet]

that and they are under a license

[trail topaz]

That’s what I mean though not sure how well a license would hold up if atlus did want to go after modders

Like how Nintendo has attacked modders with fair use license

[kindred comet]

they wouldnt, atlus could do it if they wanted to

also fair use isnt a license

[trail topaz]

Well they were licensed and also claiming fair use of nintendos assets is what I mean

[trail topaz]

Nah sega/atlus just love denuvo with a passion

[craggy ice]

yknow that is something i've wondered

are we even allowed to put mods under a licence??

[trail topaz]

Technically no

Bc you don’t actually own the assets

[craggy ice]

well i guess by technicality none of use have actually bought a licence

[trail topaz]

But game companies don’t really care unless they’re Nintendo

[craggy ice]

true

[trail topaz]

Sega promotes modding so we’re very safe

[craggy ice]

they say that and then break multiple mods with an update smh

[trail topaz]

(Despite their inclusion of denuvo making it a pain for sonic modders less so persona modders)

[trail topaz]

It’s anti tamper that breaks shit mostly

[craggy ice]

i'm pretty sure denuvo is in yakuza as well and i haven't had any problems there

[trail topaz]

DLL mods on sonic frontiers is a pain in the ass

[craggy ice]

denuvo is in persona too right

[trail topaz]

Only the new ones that have “like a dragon”

[trail topaz]

Yep

[craggy ice]

oh yeah i haven't put any mods in those yet

[trail topaz]

On frontiers the DLL mods get detected by anti tamper so easily

I was working on a DLL mod and ohhh my god

Anti tamper kept freaking out about the fact I tampered with files

[craggy ice]

strange bc the yakuza mod loader has custom dlls and stuff

[trail topaz]

They all do, it’s just the sonic games anti tamper is super intrusive for some reason

[craggy ice]

different studios i suppose

[trail topaz]

Maybe they wanted to avoid people ripping the assets

[craggy ice]

oh yeah 100% lol

[trail topaz]

Atlus vs sonic team

[craggy ice]

vs rggstudios yeah

[trail topaz]

Even though this happened day 1

I mean people literally sell sega owned assets lol

And models and shit

[kindred comet]

they dont

[craggy ice]

that sounds very illegal

[trail topaz]

They do encourage mods?

[kindred comet]

they're more tolerant with fan works with the sonic ip because its beneficial to them

[trail topaz]

They posted about unleashed recompiled on the sonic twitter

[kindred comet]

they can and will change that at any point where it becomes a nuisance to them

also they do use atlus as a copyright hammer

[craggy ice]

they broke unhardcoded romance on purpose right

[kindred comet]

they took down some atlus fangames iirc

[kindred comet]

not tmk

i dont think they would bother doing that

it was probably just some compiler thing

[trail topaz]

After the purchase yea?

[kindred comet]

yes

[trail topaz]

bc I know atlus prior to the purchase was a little more litigious as well

[kindred comet]

and tried to nuke rpcs3 as well

[trail topaz]

I’d assume Sega still allows them some reign of freedom

[craggy ice]

lol then the people in the comments of the update post are just wrong. they were all like "gay rights!"

[trail topaz]

Did they want people to buy a ps3 for persona 5? Lmao

[kindred comet]

i mean its gb comments

[craggy ice]

no no

[kindred comet]

not exactly the highlight of human intellect

[craggy ice]

the steam update release

one sec

[kindred comet]

even better

a place dumber than gb comments

[trail topaz]

I’m assuming Sega allows them some semblance of freedom

[craggy ice]

"don't update your game because it'll break mods" what??

[trail topaz]

The lack of lgbtq+ representation is 100% due to how Japan still sees that stuff

[kindred comet]

yes but the point is sega doesnt actively promote modding, they are just much more leniant with sonic fanworks since it does benefit that ip

[trail topaz]

So what you might have to fix some memory addresses and etc

[craggy ice]

it is not up to the game devs to work around mods LOL

[kindred comet]

anyways i think this is a little uh

off topic from the original point being made

[trail topaz]

Exactly also idk why modders whine so much about a slight inconvenience

[craggy ice]

very 💀

[kindred comet]

which was that i would need haytham's permission to include their assets in my mod

[trail topaz]

Like so what? Some addresses and pointers changed

You might have to rewrite some code

[kindred comet]

because modding is a pain in the ass, especially for code mod developers

[craggy ice]

ok that's a little far though lol

as a dev it's really, really annoying to try and find tf is bugging out

[trail topaz]

Oh I know very much it’s a pain in the ass, making that DLL mod for frontiers made me want to gouge my eyes out, and if the game updates again and breaks it I’mma die inside

But I won’t whine about the fact sega shouldn’t update it lol

[trail topaz]

Nah the best part is when someone else touches the code and it instantly just breaks and shits itself

Game development 101

QA’s are your worst fears

They touch shit for 5 seconds and everything is collapsing on itself

[craggy ice]

you start panicking and looking for what's wrong because the whole thing broke and you finally find it was a syntax error

[trail topaz]

Missing ; go brrrr

[craggy ice]

i for some reason put \ a lot after sentences because it's so close the enter key. this has caused many problems

[trail topaz]

I rarely touch that key, except I have been lately for localizing P5X TW

Also with P5X all the text is scattered so far within the game files it hurts

[craggy ice]

i learned p5r and i don't wanna learn any other game. i got comfy here lol

i can

woops

see

i tried to press the' and pressed enter

[trail topaz]

Do you have mods on the game banana?

[craggy ice]

anyway i can't imagine trying to leanr another game's mod files and it being like that

i have one

from like

a year ago

[trail topaz]

What mod is it?

[craggy ice]

that i no longer have access to because my ssd shit itself

https://gamebanana.com/mods/424947

[kindred comet]

forgot to change my language back 😝

[trail topaz]

rip

Oh I have that installed lol

[craggy ice]

i'm working on male romance for rose and violet

aye

[trail topaz]

Setup mods for my first playthrough last night

[trail topaz]

Ngl I thought the better rejection mods were made by the same person

[craggy ice]

there's another one?

maybe they were inspired by mine

[trail topaz]

Apparently it’s broken

[craggy ice]

wait do you mean the one from p4g

[trail topaz]

Better Ann rejection

[craggy ice]

oh

[trail topaz]

Don’t mind the smosh Reddit stories in the corner lol

[craggy ice]

rip

like i said i don't have access to the files anymore

[trail topaz]

Wouldn’t be surprised if atlus broke your shit

[craggy ice]

but also... it should work fine all i did was replace ONE .bmd file

[trail topaz]

Yea I’ll test it when I get to that point and let ya know if it actually broke or not

[trail topaz]

I’m sure it wouldn’t be too difficult to remake them if ever needed

[craggy ice]

i'll downlaod the files and open it with the mod menu and take a look

[trail topaz]

Alr

@kindred comet Also what fan games has atlus taken down, kinda curious

[craggy ice]

maybe i can update it. not sure though

[trail topaz]

I mean if youre busy with the other mod, I could always try and figure out persona modding

[craggy ice]

nah i have a feeling this person was just having problems on their end

(also i am not busy at all lol, i'm a college student with no part time job and a free summer)

[trail topaz]

Same bc it’s the only comment in the last 2 years

[trail topaz]

Maybe confidant cheat sheet compat? lol

[craggy ice]

the mod menu is still as glitchy as ever

weird that in the past 3 years it hasn't been updated at all

[trail topaz]

Who’s the dev?

[craggy ice]

shrinefox

[trail topaz]

Ah okay

[craggy ice]

https://github.com/ShrineFox/Persona-5-Mod-Menu/releases/tag/1.9

[trail topaz]

Aren’t they a super busy modder

[craggy ice]

yeah i imagine

shrinefox is like, persona modding jesus

[trail topaz]

Damn autocorrect

Don’t forget deathChaos

[craggy ice]

they're more like persona 5 modding jesus

[trail topaz]

Any updated forks?

[craggy ice]

probably somewhere

[trail topaz]

Death also did the tools for Persona 5 X and some other stuff

[trail topaz]

He did some p4g, metaphor, I think some p3r as well

And stuff for non atlus games

Like a dragon modding too

[craggy ice]

i'm pretty sure shrinefox made the whole amicita wiki

[trail topaz]

Stmvv

Smtvv*

[craggy ice]

and they were the head of the modding community before reloaded. they were more of an aemulus person i think

did shrinefox make aemulus?

[trail topaz]

Both shrine and death are holding these communities together lol

That’s by someone else I think

Yea tekkaGB

[oak field]

Not really sure if this is okay to report or not, or if it's already known and just not do-able/worth the effort or not, but I'm mentioning it anyway since it at least doesn't have to do with holding objects or anything, but a lot of the ||12/14|| animations after ||being kicked back to Shibuya from Mementos|| don't accommodate for Kasumi's physics.

[kindred comet]

12/14?

i dont recall much happening on that date

[astral chasm]

(why did I think your profile pic was dog ann, Wist? lmaooo)

[kindred comet]

alright epic works

[craggy ice]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-sir-yayy-kataman-gif-12260883688244422951

[kindred comet]

i really need to get a new primary monitor, the colors are inverted on the bottom row of pixels so her hand is blue on my screen

[craggy ice]

lmaooo

the double kasumi is still so funny to me

[kindred comet]

she's undergone mitosis

[oak field]

Sorry, tripped out. I meant 12/24.

[craggy ice]

i remember i couldn't take the opening cutscene seriously because it was before i set mc kasumi's oputift to the white leotard so it literally looked like mitosis

[kindred comet]

noted, thanks

[craggy ice]

...i think you passed the blue curse onto me

[trail topaz]

Kasumi miku lives in all of us

[kindred sonnet]

what in the hell

someone turn the blueberry filter on

[sonic finch]

0 days to legal action
Madarame stole Papyrus' special attack to turn you blue

[rain tangle]

Undertale mentioned

[small venture]

Yooo thank you so much for updating epic to work with this

I was just trying to figure out how to get them to both work

[craggy ice]

certified mod menu moment

[kindred comet]

Added it as a config option, thank you very much! 💜

[urban anvil]

hoorah

[trail topaz]

sweeet

[warm otter]

Thanks for adding it

[plucky rapids]

if the license allows sharing you can just do it (with credit presumably) tho a lot of ppl just leave it as the default one (cc-by-nc-nd) just bc they dont know the significance of it

[plucky rapids]

https://youtu.be/ygIJJAovxEw

[craggy ice]

tbf i have no idea how to edit th e licence thing on game banana lol\

game banana stop looking like a website made in 2010 when

[trail topaz]

lol

[plucky rapids]

it should be an option at the bottom of the ownership tag, you can generate some html for common licenses through gb license embeds and pop it in

you can also set one...somewhere in the account stuff that all your mods will default to unless you overwrite it for an individual mod on its page

[craggy ice]

is there a list i can see what the licences are?

[trail topaz]

yea

I think the list is on github

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjsqaTQmv-OAxX7JDQIHYKkCJMQFnoECBkQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fchoosealicense.com%2Flicenses%2F&usg=AOvVaw36g3uW_EU5NEHdv2JaMBSe&opi=89978449

here we go

oops

[kindred comet]

yeah the license is the default gb one so i have to get permission

its from like 3y ago so not surprising

[trail topaz]

https://choosealicense.com

there

[trail topaz]

@craggy ice

[kindred comet]

i kinda wish gb license embeds was just a standard built-in feature on gb itself

[craggy ice]

^^^^^^^^^^^^

[kindred comet]

but im not surprised it isnt

[craggy ice]

again, site made in 2010

[plucky rapids]

i have all mine as cc-by-nc-sa so if i cant maintain one for some reason other ppl can just do it without having to go through me

[kindred comet]

gb has seemed content with being basically the same for a long time

[trail topaz]

this is how all my projects are, feel free to fork or whatever and continue as long as you arent profitting

[kindred comet]

im kinda surprised they even added file versions and submitter blocking

maybe the mk8dx mod page will be usable now

[trail topaz]

lmao

is it broken?

[kindred comet]

no

it just has 88032083084208 shovelware mods

[trail topaz]

I updated a mod on there 🤣

[kindred comet]

that bury the decent/good mods

[plucky rapids]

iirc that was asked about idr why it didnt happen

[trail topaz]

I updated the bowsette mod at some poiint

[trail topaz]

you mean the crappy meme ass character replacements?

[kindred comet]

the majority of character replacements

[craggy ice]

the site design reminds me of this one web dragon game i played

[kindred comet]

theres like three people who flood that page with low quality imports

[craggy ice]

fron like 2013...

[trail topaz]

one of the only quality replacement lel

[trail topaz]

you know the design literally hasnt been updated since the 2010s

[kindred comet]

tbf i think its layout is fine i just dont like the lack of will to actually add good qol

[trail topaz]

and parts of the site are still 2000s esc

[kindred comet]

like giving sounds thumbnails

instead you must upload a very compressed mp3 file

[trail topaz]

wait the sound category cant have thumbnails?

[kindred comet]

nope

[craggy ice]

the markdown editor is kind of fuckass too

[trail topaz]

thats insane

[kindred comet]

theres also like 2 options for licenses and one of them only reflects on a specific page iirc

it just feels very antiquated

[trail topaz]

does gb not have all the open source licenses?

oh guys lets not forget how many people go to the hamburger menu trying to get to their profile

getting to your proffile is ass

[kindred comet]

i dont think it lets you select any licenses, you can grant permissions but natively im p sure it will always default to noderivs (unless you use gb license embed)

[trail topaz]

its just your tiny little pfp

[trail topaz]

oh jeez, Im assuming the license embed is when you see actual open source licenses on the page

time to check my license

yea I gotta change that

[craggy ice]

me. i do this

[trail topaz]

so do I, then I remember its the stupid little pfp icon I can barely see

also just updated my license to GPL 3.0

[trail topaz]

also im pretty sure the old api has not been deprecated

found it go to control center, default license to change your default one @craggy ice

now all my mods will default to GPL 3.0 😅

[craggy ice]

me when rich text editor

[trail topaz]

lol

[plucky rapids]

lol

[small venture]

I tried adding the SPD emu. version of EPIC and it did this to sumi's icon

[kindred comet]

because i havent pushed an update out for epic support

[small venture]

gotcha

[ionic fulcrum]

Someone made a "fic" set in this mods universe

that kind of fic

[plucky rapids]

why is fic in scare quotes it doesnt stop being fic just because its about [REDACTED]

[ionic fulcrum]

Because it's a different kind of fic

[plucky rapids]

if you mean ai slop just say that

[ionic fulcrum]

And people might think it's a normal sfw fic

Which it's not

[kindred comet]

first time on ao3 i assume?

[ionic fulcrum]

Well they specifically mentioned yours/ @zealous fjord's mod

[plucky rapids]

this doesnt really seem like a conversation that belongs here and also if it has the correct age rating and archive warnings then no the fuck they wont

[ionic fulcrum]

With a link

Just thought you should know

[kindred comet]

maybe wouldve been better off keeping that to yourself

also why are you saying this in my thread 😭

[ionic fulcrum]

I just thought that maybe you wouldn't want that kind of stuff associated with your and Zylvos's mod and would want to ask them to take it down

[plucky rapids]

"hi! im a random internet acquaintance in the same server as you! did you know theres SMUT of YOUR CREATIVE WORK?"

[kindred comet]

i mean, i dont really care. it doesnt directly use my assets + its ao3

[ionic fulcrum]

Ok

[kindred comet]

if anything im more curious as to how you even found it

[ionic fulcrum]

I was just scrolling on p5's page on ao3

[kindred comet]

main reason why i even mention it on my mod page is to discourage LLab gooners from making a mod for my mod (which they will probably end up doing anyway)

[snow aspen]

Happened to us once with Akage so yeah it’s gonna happen at some point

[kindred comet]

I did look it up out of curiosity and its a 3 parter fic with the final one having some smut. I haven't read it but it seems like a pretty wholesome Kasumi x Ann story so :PP

I just wanted to put that out there bcs i dont want this fic having its reputation tarnished or something

Part 1 and part 2 are rated G so there should be no issues with me linking it, I'm not involved in the creation of it ofc but please support it if you'd like to - https://archiveofourown.org/works/68658046

[craggy ice]

rip fanfiction really being dragged through the mud today huh

[wispy temple]

Sure idm
Can I ask what you'd be modifying out of curiosity? Or if you need anything custom for the mod?

[kindred comet]

Thanks! Mainly just the skill/weapon icon texture as well as partypanel

[wispy temple]

Is that it? Yeah go ahead

[kindred comet]

Thank you!!

[wispy temple]

Kasumi for everyone!

[zealous fjord]

I don't want to restart the discussion, but yes, I know about the fiction since they linked the first two parts on my GB page, but not the 3rd part. Part 1 and 2 are indeed pretty wholesome and Part 3 has "adult content" in it second half, so be warned.

[small stream]

which config i adjust?

[zealous fjord]

It's not added yet

[kindred comet]

@native urchin @wispy temple Apologies for the 2nd ping! I've made SPD emulator compatible versions of your mods if you would like to update them on GB. If you choose to do so you can archive the old versions using the new GB feature! I mainly modified these for compatibility and also so I don't have to include all of the SPDs in the protag sumi options (and I think users would have to disable your mods due to whole SPDs being used)

For EPIC I also updated the thumbnail to fit Reloaded's icon size and edited the mod name so make it easier to search for inside of reloaded :)

[wispy temple]

So just drag and drop onto the respective page?

[kindred comet]

Yeah, after extracting those 7z files

Both the mod itself and the update metadata is included

[wispy temple]

Mind telling me what a SPD "emulator" is btw? I've been out of the Persona modding scene for a while lol

[kindred comet]

Sure! Basically it loads modified SPD sprites individually, which lets you make SPD edits without needing to load the whole SPD

[wispy temple]

Oh wow

So no more sprite sheet?

[kindred comet]

I'm not entirely sure how Aemulus BMD or BF merging worked but its (probably) like that

Yeah pretty much

[wispy temple]

That's insane

Would've been really useful 5 years ago

[kindred comet]

Yeah thats when Id say most of the party panel/other spd mods got made 😆

[wispy temple]

Not to sound like an old person lol, but back in my day, when I made Colorful Battle UI for P5 PS3, I had to move the sprites of Kasumi and Darkechi manually on the spritesheet on Photoshop as well as expanding the sprite box borders by pixels purely by eye until it was 99.9% accurate to P5R

[kindred comet]

Oh my god yeah I think that was way before PersonaEditor even had the spd editor update

[wispy temple]

No this was me using PersonaEditor or Amicitia. I discovered on a whim that certain numbers were actually the pixel coordinates of the sprite sheet

[kindred comet]

Oh I meant SPD editor update as in PersonaEditor was updated a while ago to support visual SPD editing

So you can move and resize sprite box borders with the mouse

[wispy temple]

[wispy temple]

Now I really feel old...

That would've been so useful wth 😭

[kindred comet]

LOL I COULD IMAGINE

[wispy temple]

Brooooooooooo...

[kindred comet]

i never ended up adding party panels for sumi mod, it took until like 2024 for someone else to do it and it was bcs i couldnt be bothered dealing with the borders 😭

this was when you did have to just

eyeball it

and manually increment the numbers

[wispy temple]

Literally all my efforts with the .spdspr which I think was what it was called was all for Kasumi lmao

[kindred comet]

[wispy temple]

It was worth it

Anyways, lemme go update Colorful Pack

Okay should be live

[kindred comet]

Thank you!!

I should note that it's not specifically the KaP version, it's functionally the same as the previous version but with SPD merging compatibility

[wispy temple]

Ohhh

So I should treat is as like a 2.0?

[kindred comet]

The KaP version will be a config option in my mod, which basically just swaps the SPDs around

Yeah

[wispy temple]

Ahhh gotcha

I'll go fix that

[kindred comet]

Ty!!

[wispy temple]

How's it look now?

[kindred comet]

Looks good, I would just change the description to say SPD emulator compatible version for both the 7z and metadata :)

[wispy temple]

🫡

[kindred comet]

Just checked, tysm!!

[native urchin]

Woaaa thanks for making this!! :0

[kindred comet]

Yw!!

[native urchin]

I'll update it asap I can't believe this mod had been sitting around with the whole spd when the emu was a thing 😭

[wispy temple]

Yo Century 👀

[native urchin]

hey 👀

[wispy temple]

Bro I feel old for not knowing about this emulator thing

[native urchin]

pff same

[kindred comet]

Its fairly recent, I think it was released in 2024

[native urchin]

ooo

[wispy temple]

Still new-ish

Here Wisteria, have some free marketing

[native urchin]

tbf I have been out of modding for a while :p

[wispy temple]

Same

[native urchin]

but this is pretty neat!

[wispy temple]

Indeed!

[kindred comet]

[native urchin]

I'll make sure to also include some free marketing haha

[wispy temple]

Copycat

[kindred comet]

I appreciate it :D Thank you!!

[native urchin]

again, thanks a lot for making this wisteria 🛐 🛐 🛐

[kindred comet]

Ofc!!!

[wispy temple]

Yeah, good work. I haven't been keeping up with the scene like I said, but your announcement video reached my YouTube recs so I'd say you're doing great work, keep it up

Feel free to add me and reach out if you need anything :)

[kindred comet]

Will do! I really appreciate the kind words :)

[wispy temple]

Ofc, gotta make it a good space for folks

[kindred comet]

it made me solve a minigame before i could add you 😭

[wispy temple]

Lmaoo???

[native urchin]

not the discord qte 😭

[wispy temple]

Sonic Unleashed could only dream of having QTEs like Discord

[sonic finch]

https://youtu.be/pu57M7cjSD4?si=hXuRvbqdeeC8DCFw

[native urchin]

okie, updated the gb page :o

https://tenor.com/view/funny-cute-gif-731934222735169479

[kindred comet]

Tysm!! :DD

[trail topaz]

would this need to be updated?

[kindred comet]

no idea

okay no it wouldnt be

[trail topaz]

alright thats good

[ruby adder]

To all Japanese players:
We're currently working on a Japanese overhaul of Kasumi as Protagonist.
We plan to release it in early access sometime this month or next,

https://gamebanana.com/wips/94951

[kindred comet]

Colorful Pack support added!

[rough maple]

WOOP

[astral chasm]

niceeee

is there a date to the new update, wist?

[kindred comet]

None rn but probably after BMD/BF emu gets the multi character mapping uppdate and the CHS localization is updated to support the next msgs added in the last update

Since ideally I want to push all of this out at once

[craggy ice]

YIPPEE!!

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-gif-12598976956267201998

[swift ether]

Ok which one of yall had trye twins dancing during a red alarm?

Cause it is the cutest thing ever?

I swear they did not always dance a duet during alarms!

[light horizon]

So uh, little awkward thing... I loaded a file that's at 1/2, and played ||kasumi and akechi's|| showtime attack...
I was using JP voice, and during the showtime IT SWAPPED BACK TO ENG VOICE
Only during the showtime attack. After that it went back to JP

Wait is this supposed to be a voice patch issue

[astral chasm]

this won’t be fixed ☺️

[kindred comet]

pretty much this

anyways if a jp version is made i'll probably remove the showtime audio from my mod and request joecula to add it to voice patch

[craggy ice]

this might have been reported already, but sometimes i get a bug where kasumi's mask just disappears when it shouldn't be

for exmaple, on the end screen after a battle

[astral chasm]

if you end a battle using skill, you get no mask and black face bug. It happens to me too

[zealous fjord]

Yeah, I've noticed this too, and it was not happening a few months ago. Maybe it's CBT?

[reef musk]

@open gull Sorry to ping you for it when I already mentioned it on GB in regards to Akechi's, but also Sumire's showtime although it had JP audio for Sumire, Kasumi has Joker's voice in it

[open gull]

Oh yeah, Sumire's Showtime audio isn't touched by the mod either.

I can't make any promises especially since I don't know Japanese but I'll have a look at Akechi's showtime audio when I get the time. I personally use the Joker over Sumire mod so Sumire's showtimes didn't even occur to me. I suppose it could work with Rose & Violet, but I don' have any immediate plans to do so atm.

Mindya, audio mods aren't hard to make, so if you ever want pointers, I'm your guy. (I use foobar2000 with the vgmstream plugin to extract game audio, Audacity for editing and PersonaVCE to encode the audio to work in-game.)

[kindred comet]

yeah I have no idea how to fix it

I tried and ended up breaking the gap one time

[swift ether]

Says the person with c-c-c-confidence!

(Should remember to add persona VCE to the list)

But you are right. Haven't looked into the code for p5r yet but it doesn't look much different from P3r.

Its probably easier. I might ask you for pointers too once I decide on the two tracks I will use for my first encoding project

[small stream]

this is under the add on config?

[kindred comet]

Yes but it's not out yet

[small stream]

👍

[zealous fjord]

Would you be okay if I added a "Kasumi" version of them in my Alternate Models mod? Basically, just adding a mole under her left eye and adding the heart window to the leotard. Technically, she also has a slightly different eye shape, but that's barely noticeable so I wouldn't bother.
I can make the edits myself and show them to you, if you want

[ruby adder]

I'm a bit of an outsider, but thank you for introducing the software. I'd like to try my hand at ShowTimeVoice as well while creating Japanease Overhaul.

[warm otter]

Sure, go ahead

[vast mountain]

Hey ya'll! I LOVE the work that's been put into this, and the newest update is impressive as heck! (updating all of the animations/adjusting the cutscene props seems like it would've been a nightmare, so the fact that ya'll did it is amazeballs.)

Anywhoo, I'm reaching out looking to get some suggestions on what mods to pair with this one, specifically ones that will let me date the guys (which, from what I've seen is a pretty rare commodity, due to the complexity of romance/event modding.)

From what I know, there are only two mods out there that let us do that: Gay/Bi Joker or Female Protagonist. Both of which are great, but come with their own caveats:

Gay/Bi Joker - I believe is probably the most compatible, considering It doesn't really touch the models. (though, I don't know how it plays with the she/her joker mod. ....also, I'm getting mixed info, but I believe it's currently broken and the author is M.I.A. - I've seen some posts about people using this combo in the past, but don't know if it's gunna work if the mod is broken. Anyone have updates/play with this combo currently?

Female Protagonist - I LOVE chlorophylls work on this and have no issues with the design of their FeMc, but their animations and cutscene interactions aren't as clean as ya'lls are with this new update. So, does anyone know of a way to make these two play nice with each other to basically use Fem Protag's event/script/romance changes, but with ya'lls mod overwriting the model and animation data instead?

[craggy ice]

hey there, currently rose and violet is the only story overhaul completed for this mod. i am working on male romance for that mod, but it's a work in progress.
here's a link:
https://gamebanana.com/mods/593378
gay joker will cause conflicts with this mod, so i don't advise using it. also it's not broken, just outdated.

[vast mountain]

Thank you so much! Rose & Violet's story edits really interested me, but I was deterred from using it, because I was specifically looking to date the guys, and R&V's info on their gamebanana page mentioned that that wasn't in the scope or plans for their mod. So it's really awesome to hear that you are working on an expansion for it!

• For gay joker, do you mean it causes issues with R&V or with the Kasumi as Protagonist mod? (also, people in the replies/comments on it's GB page were saying that it's not triggering events/dates, which I thought meant it was like, broken broken, so I've just been avoiding it all together. But I could totally be wrong (and that would be great, lol.)

[craggy ice]

gay joker worked fine for me. i think some of the dates might have been broken by the 1.04 update

and it causes conflict with r&v

the gay joker mod will also not have fitting dialogue for kasumi. she of course will eb acting like joker

r&v added many chanegs to kasumi's dialogue choices to fit her personality

it might be jarring

and the vanilla ending cutscene added by the mod will not play, since they both use the same SCHEDULER_3.BF file

if you really want to use it, place it below r&v

[plucky rapids]

1.0.4 shouldnt affect that, all that would be in flowscript not exe hooks
bustups can be buggy since persona essentials's bustup param merging (which was added after 1.0.4) doesnt work right but it shouldnt otherwise be relevant

[craggy ice]

i've only seen people say the dates have stopepd working for some reason

it might be an unhardcoded romance thing

since uhr added new romance falgs, but it has a compatabiltiy layer coded in for gay joker

i suspect it may not be overriding some of the flags

[plucky rapids]

it doesnt add flags per se so much as make game check existing flags for romance

[craggy ice]

yeah it uses unused flags

[plucky rapids]

unhardcoded romance was broken for a while but was updated ages ago already

and should only really matter for like confidant menu hearts and such

not scheduler stuff

[craggy ice]

well, the flags are needed to activate valentines day, dates, etc

[plucky rapids]

and 1.0.4 still doesnt matter as both setting the flags and checking the flags for events would be flowscript

[craggy ice]

also the "i'm already in a relationship with someone else..." thing. i had to go through every romance to add the check for their flags

[craggy ice]

i'm not sure what the bug is then. i haven't tested the dates yet since i haven't gotten to that part of development

i might be able to catch some kind of error, or setting the "new" bitflags might fix it

[vast mountain]

OH! I didn't know R&V actually edited interactions with other characters! That's totally a plus! That means I wouldn't need to figure out how to make the she/her mod compatible either. My first thought was to use a combination of Kasumi as Protagonist with She/Her and the Gay Joker mod. ...but if you're working on male romances for R&V, and R&V is doing all that, then It's probably my best option to just hold out on playing p5 until you finish up your expansion. lol. ^_^

[plucky rapids]

ive been wanting to try and do refactors and bugfixes but i want to first finish this personal tool for dumping changes to bfs/bmds since gay jonkler doesnt use merging

[craggy ice]

oh the r&v mod is hugely extensive. it edits almost every aspect of the game it's awesome

[craggy ice]

should i make my files bf/bmd merging...

i'm just using p5r essentials atm

[vast mountain]

I've just been avoiding Gay Joker based on the comments on the Gamebananna page. It sounded like the mod wasn't loading the dates or romance events, which..... was the whole reason I was interested in Gay Joker instead of the Female Protagonist mod (which is great for the social link edits, but doesn't feature any dates or holiday events yet.)

[astral chasm]

currently i’m playing with kasumi as protagonist and gay joker, it didn’t work as intended. Tried to change mod order, but even so it failed 🙁

it worked once for me, but years ago

[craggy ice]

huh. i called plenty of events and it worked

so it's not an event error

it has to be something with the scheduler then , if the events are loading fine with mod menu

[plucky rapids]

if youre doing substantial event editing it might not be good for said events since you cant currently force a message id. i feel like there are things in the mod that could be safely converted though, and imo if you dont need to call messages by id you should use merging for better compatibility

[craggy ice]

these events were designed for p5r essentials, so unless i go in and change something, it probably does that. and if i change it, at that point i mgiht as well make my own events.

[plucky rapids]

the issue is just that evts call messages by id instead of name, most bfs just use name so it isnt an issue for them

[craggy ice]

i'm going to be trying my hand at editing akechi, but i'm going to be building on unused and existing events

[craggy ice]

i remember being so mad i finished my playthrough like right before it came out lol

i missed out...

[plucky rapids]

i should add ability to force message id, i thought about it when making bmd emulator but didnt bc i didnt realize there were actual cases where it could be needed...

(theres also the license issue but i think just refactors/fixes is probably still fine to upload...)

[craggy ice]

they have the default game banana licence, which doesn't allow remixes. i had to ask for permission to use their events

[plucky rapids]

i am aware, that is why i brought it up

[craggy ice]

yeah, they seem to be active again at least, but they're not in the server

i could only dm them because we had a mutual emoji server 💀

[plucky rapids]

ask them if i can reupload with fixes
once i can get my adhd ass to finish fixes...

[vast mountain]

...I know this is blasphemous, but I ....actually haven't played all the way through P5 yet. I've gotten part way through multiple times, but each time just got uninvested when I remembered that I can only date the girls. I remember being so hyped for the P5R original announcements because I thought all the shots they were showing of Kasumi meant that we were finally getting another FeMc option, but ....nope. Atlus was just being baity. Honestly, the only reason I bought P5R on PC was because I heard about the Female Protagonist and Gay Joker mods. ....and one is broken, and the other is not finished yet. lol.

[plucky rapids]

or if theyre planning to do fixes themself

[craggy ice]

if i find the error i'll let you know

[craggy ice]

you... definitely want to play through vanilla p5r before playing r&v. it spoils something huge

[vast mountain]

I feel this in the pit of my soul. lol. I don't even KNOW how many unfinished mod projects I have lying around in my hard-drive that my ADD brain has left behind.

[craggy ice]

this is me but with writing

i have so many fics on ym ao3 that just have one or two chapters

[vast mountain]

I think I was already soft-spoiled by my own digging. Are you talking about || Kasumi actually being her younger sister, but having a ptsd personality crisis?||

[craggy ice]

yes

[vast mountain]

(((sorry if I spoiled something for you for another game. 0_0 I was trying to be funny, but realized my reference might be a spoiler. Hope I got to it to edit before you did!))

[craggy ice]

no you're fine i can't be spoiled with persona anymore

except strikers and tactica. haven't gotten to those yet

[vast mountain]

Have you played any of the Final Fantasy games? (I made a quip about one of them, but edited it out in case you/anyone else reading hadn't played that particular game yet.)

[craggy ice]

nope

[vast mountain]

Ooop. Nevermind then!!!

[kindred comet]

I think there is likely a way to separate femjoker's romances into a separate mod, but that could only be done for private use

And it would be better for Chloro to separate it themself

idk how to reach Chloro outside of gb messages, and even then they never responded to one of mine - i guess you could try commenting on femjoker's mod page with a request to move the romances to a standalone mod (or request permission to do it yourself)

i think you can probably just load femjoker before my mod and it should work regardless, the animations and models from mine should overwrite femjoker's as long as CF's joker slot is set to 1

[vast mountain]

oh, for sure! I was just looking at work-arounds for personal play. I know Chloro has already done so freaking much with the scope of the Fem Protagonist mod, so I would never assume to just ask them to change something they already made. ^_^

[vast mountain]

That was my first hope, but I assumed it would be too good to be true. lol. I didn't know if the animations/models would conflict and cause issues, or if yours would just overwrite theirs.

[kindred comet]

Mine should overwrite theirs, no idea how it'll play in regards to the boys bathhouse event being turned into an Ann and Sumire bath chat but it should hopefully be fine

[open gull]

Sure thing, though I think it'd be best for you to make a post in #1045463242765504552 and ping me there. I've got stuff on today so I won't respond immediately, but I think that'll be a good place to start.

[small stream]

it is not possible to make Kasumi as tall as Joker to fix those skeleton issue with regards to animations right? it could break the outfits

[craggy ice]

changing event files to for example, move the coffee cup closer would be a lot easier than that lol

also stretched kasumi would be cursed

[small stream]

Yeah that was dumb

Ignore it

[vast mountain]

I think altering the skeleton like that would end up messing up Kasumi's animation rigging. I don't know how Persona 5 handles their animation rigging, but I would think modifying the skeleton would force her mesh to stretch in weird ways to meet the math of her animations.

[kindred comet]

that's not how proportions work, no

unless you really want joker but with a Sumi wig

or an extremely stretched kasumi

[vast mountain]

she's just a gymnist with really long legs, Wist. don't judge her. 😂

[kindred comet]

those aren't skeleton issues with the items anyway

some items (mainly cutscene ones) have their own animations and aren't attached to a characters hands

[craggy ice]

isn't it just where the object is placed in the event file

[kindred comet]

and currently there's no way to edit their animations (not like I'd want to anyway)

[kindred comet]

depends, most of the time items are attached to the helper bones

which are usually near the hands

sometimes items just have their own animation

which is where the floating objects comes from

regardless I uh

don't think molding her skeleton to fit jokers would be a good solution to an issue that shows up a handful of times

you could probably size her model(s) and skeletons up to be taller if you wanted (without just stretching one axis) but I have no interest in doing that

it wouldn't fix floating items anyway

[craggy ice]

is there any way to maybe move her up on the pillow in her room or pan the camera lower in some events?

[kindred comet]

camera editing? not really

I can just move her root bone in the animations up but I would have to do that for a lot of animations

you could also just edit the evt but I don't want to fill my mod up with a bunch of evt files

[kindred comet]

^ thing I've already done for a lot of anims anyway

and considering the bed animations are repeated in a bunch of random gaps it would cause inconsistencies I don't want to deal with

if someone else wants to do it they can, the usage permission allows it

but I'm not dealing with all of those animations again

[kindred comet]

as for camera editing blender tools for GFS doesn't really support cameras

there's only one camera edit and it's for the prologue violet cutscene

and I'm not even sure how or why I was able to edit that camera

[eager shadow]

I love that you added miku from the Collab in the music video, they have the rest of the Phantom thieves as vocaliods could you let me know where you got the model because I’m hoping to edit the outfits for the rest of the Vocaloid to wear the phantom thieves outfits

https://imgur.com/a/svjde8S

[kindred comet]

I think @calm compass would know

[eager shadow]

thx

[thorn nimbus]

Looking at Miku wearing Violet's Phantom Thief Outfit does make sense since her Phantom Thief outfit is similar to Joker

So it be Female Joker's Phantom Thief outfit lol

[eager shadow]

I was thinking of giving them each the character they are replacing’s outfit

[thorn nimbus]

Such as? 🤔

[tawny fable]

@kindred comet I got the mod to load with ever other file without clipping the key frames animations but I do have a question what file is kasumis skeleton been look can’t seem to find it

The switch port I mean

Sorry for the dumb questions I’m tired and I’ve already lost a lot of work from it do to mcafee deciding to quarantine it and it end up in the ether

heck its steady framerate as well but theres a massive downside

it aint in the least bit ready to run on a switch console though

[snow aspen]

So emulators works but real hardware is a no no?

[tawny fable]

Currently most likely have to make a mod that lowers the games resolution to look like a ps2 game which its currently running on heck I nearly got it working but mcaffee deleted all my progress on it so I’m going with other methods till I fell like starting back on the 100 hours of animation work

Big reason why I’m able to run it currently it’s an earlier version of the mod and citron has a resolution experimental function

So I didn’t have to make a mod for it outright

Going to have to for it to run on switch though

[tawny fable]

So it’s still in the works I’m going to clip keyframes from animation data to make it to where I can run it at a higher resolution but this is going to take way longer then I initially thought

[tawny fable]

do you have a emulator or no

[tawny fable]

It’s still a work in progress at the moment

[snow aspen]

Yeah I do

[tawny fable]

Is it citron cuz the reliability of this is running on a experimental function from there at the moment

[snow aspen]

It’s Yuzu

Yes the one Nintendo shut down (cuz it’s Nintendo)

[kindred comet]

? wdym

her skeleton is just in the GFS models...?

[tawny fable]

You know that file you removed to get it to run the animation file I’m tired making mistakes in terminology.

I’ll explain better when I wake up in the morning

[kindred comet]

just compare the field folders to see what's missing

I don't remember what it was but it was probably the bfxx files

it wasn't ever really a question of whether or not the game loads without those gaps - it does

[tawny fable]

thanks I'm just exhausted when i found this out ill be able to think strait in the morning

[eager shadow]

Kaito and yuske

[kindred sonnet]

I found this on another mod discord but nintendo changed there file size recently

Certain larger mods (or merged loadouts of many smaller mods) may not work with atmosphere 1.9.0/HorizonOS 20.0.0, as the memory allocation has been decreased due to changes made by Nintendo in firmware 20.0.0. If you wish to continue using larger mods on Switch, we recommend that you do not update to firm ware 20.0.0, even once it is supported by atmosphere

[snow aspen]

Sounds like something they’d do

[thorn nimbus]

Ahh I see

[eager shadow]

And the rest of the group

[kindred comet]

it didn't work before that update anyway

it wouldn't really be related to that regardless

they changed the memory allocation

and atmosphere had to decrease theirs

it mainly just means sys modules are affected

the only game romfs that was ever really affected by mem constraints was totk due to its gigantic list of files

"larger mods" in this context is very vague and I have no idea what game is even being referred to here

[kindred sonnet]

lol you called it i found this on the mod project discord for a linkle mod for totk

which had me wondering if that was what causing the issue my bad

[tawny fable]

@kindred comet got a earlier version of the mod working on citron going to further optimize it to work on switch is the main objective im going to go back into the animation files and do what i previously did before my projects folders got deleted by mcafee

[cyan needle]

Wonder if this mod is compatible with xbox version of pc

[kindred sonnet]

if you mean the gamepass/microsoft store version yes reloaded works perfectly fine on gamepass/microsoft store games. Reloaded will kick back a warning that it may cause issues. but ignore it reloaded will work just fine

i ran P3R with the femc mod on gamepass when P3R was available on it. Its since been removed but i had no trouble modding it with reloaded