(P5R PC) Kasumi as Protagonist

[kindred comet]

But I'm not sure why it would be causing that

[grizzled crystal]

tbh i have no clue lmao

did you touch models at all

[kindred comet]

Nope

[light horizon]

Oh and the model acted weird during casino escape as well

[kindred comet]

Issue is fixed if I delete the gap

I'm super confused

Normally the most that would happen is an awkward snap back to Joker's anims

Seems to be affecting later game cutscenes too...? I haven't noticed anything in the Kamoshida or Madarame arc (which is where I'm at on my NG+ save)

[light horizon]

Well over here it's all fine until some cutscenes in Sae arc

[kindred comet]

Hmm

I'm gonna check 3rd sem too

[light horizon]

Guess I'll temporarily stop until next fix to avoid awkwardness

[kindred comet]

I mean I can't guarantee the next fix will be anytime soon

I'm pretty busy with school

[light horizon]

It's fine, I got quite obsessed with this game that I need a break from it

[kindred comet]

I can try releasing a temp fix but I really don't have the time to see how it'll affect everything

welcome back to my domain

[wispy robin]

i just think its really funny to see these broken things

its just weird because none of the problems ive sent happened before

[light horizon]

It's just awkward and weird to me honestly

[kindred comet]

Well

They're happening because I replaced a bunch of Joker anims with Kasumi's

[wispy robin]

that clicked in my head after i sent that

[kindred comet]

Specific files seem to be causing it

I'm just not sure why it would be nuking the entire mesh

hold on gonna grab an old version real quickj

[wispy robin]

this happens in every cutscene in between after defeating the holy grail and before sataneal

[kindred comet]

Can you also check if it happens in 3rd sem

[wispy robin]

but it only happens on that one animation once she starts standing normally she gains her hair back

[kindred comet]

I'm just gonna make an add-on that reverts the anims

[wispy robin]

yeah i can see, im playing through third semester today

it might be a bit before i go through it all though

[light horizon]

I'll just wait... I really needed a break

[wispy robin]

i just need something to do before xenoblade dlc

[kindred comet]

apply this below the main mod and it should hopefully fix things for now

[grizzled crystal]

btw if you're gonna be updating the mod again i rlly suggest sorting out the models lmao it'll help with the costumes changing between cutscenes if you replace them properly

[kindred comet]

Honestly I thought I did

I've only really seen the pre mementos merge costume switch happen

[wispy robin]

should i see if anything else is broken in third semester without the fix or should i just use the fix

[kindred comet]

Yeah see if anything broken without it

[kindred comet]

I pretty much just copied every model from 0010 and then sorted through it to match up with Joker stuff

The Amicita wiki page is a lifesaver

[grizzled crystal]

yeah that's what i mean there's a lot that don't need to be included, it's not a big deal but it'll but it makes the file size bigger then it needs to

also what's the event id with the anim issue i might be able to have a look

[kindred comet]

Hmm

My main concern is just covering all the duplicate Joker models as well

It would honestly be ideal if I could just get the game to use one phantom suit model for all the events that need it and what not

[kindred comet]

E424_004

[kindred comet]

I'll try seeing if I have any unneeded Kasumi stuff too

I wish Atlus was more efficient with how they use models and animations

[grizzled crystal]

must be something with how you replaced the anim

[wispy robin]

this is strange looking lmao

[grizzled crystal]

literally just imported the kasumi's still ganm and it worked lmao

[wispy robin]

[grizzled crystal]

my guess is it’s somin to do with how you’re replacing the anims that’s causing the limbs to uhhhhh just sorta die

[kindred comet]

Oh yeah her head disappears for some reason

[kindred comet]

That's really weird

I didn't do anything special when replacing them

I think I just used the field idle ganm

[cyan needle]

i considered adding the detail of the hole but decided against it

[kindred comet]

Well I think it's kinda fixed now

Alright its fixed now

I still don't know how or why that happened but its no longer happening

I re-exported the gaps and reimported the standing idle

[kindred comet]

Update is live!

[cyan needle]

@kindred comet the 10/3 cutscene crashes the game

this is where Yoshizawa talks abotu being happy after her awakening

gonna reinstall just in case

okay i guess it waas a one time thing

worked this time

i like the animations a lot

shes so proper

[kindred comet]

[light horizon]

Huh, must be a random crash in that case, 10/3 was fine to me and it never crashed

[cyan needle]

might have been an issue manually updating from my in-dev 1.2 to 2.1

gonna make a list of outfits that Kasumi doesnt have Joker side

so i can make something for them to fill those slots

Summer Break needs its model from CBT included

Beta Joker
Starlight

also Moonlight's model from CBT too

Beta is already going to be Femmc's outfit, so its just Starlight

i love her so much

wait does she actually use her dart animation

i cant tell if its jokers animation working well or it is her animation and they all just look the same

i think its just they look similar

since Futaba's is too

[cyan needle]

i didn’t actually check what movie this even was i just did it for the kindness

there’s a cut in in darts that’s unchanged

[cyan needle]

so fun to see them together like this

[kindred comet]

Yes

[cyan needle]

nest

neat

[kindred comet]

I also tried to get her to use her dart pass anim but I don't think I replaced the right thing

So it still uses Jokers

[kindred comet]

If another random crash happens it might be due to the audio in FEmulator

Mainly the field stuff

[cyan needle]

if her dart high five is broken it’s not noticeable

[kindred comet]

I think she's using Joker's

[cyan needle]

i noticed her hand doesn’t connect with her partners but that’s kinda it

[kindred comet]

Her actual one has her doing a small hop to reach the other person's hand

[cyan needle]

i think she does jump

maybe you did get it to work

i’ll have to see when i setup@my computer again

[kindred comet]

[cyan needle]

thsi is just made me realise why it’s related to baton pass

because i remembered yoshizawa does the same jump in her animation

[cyan needle]

@kindred comet Futaba social link where she meets Mishima is missing kasumi’s sitting animation

i forogt he says Kek in this scene

also i’m assuming the reason kasumi uses jokers animation in the rain is because she doesn’t have animations for it

[kindred comet]

Missing because I would have to reposition it

[cyan needle]

damn

fair

tbf this scene deserves it anyway

[kindred comet]

Would also have to find an anim for getting up from her seat

[grizzled crystal]

uhhhhh

there is one

unless you mean like getting up from the side ( if that makes sense)

[kindred comet]

Yeah getting up from the side

I think she might have one somewhere just can't remember where

[light horizon]

I should get a confirmation just in case... is the Protag Kasumi's appearance change to Sumire's here intentional

Starting from 11/22

[kindred comet]

Yes

[light horizon]

Okay

[kindred comet]

That's her disguised outfit

[light horizon]

Physics goes wrong all of a sudden again...

[kindred comet]

Real FeMC is out! https://gamebanana.com/mods/440088

[light horizon]

I wonder if using jap voicepack from this mod combined with your mod can work...
That aside, are you still gonna continue with this project Wisteria?

[kindred comet]

It should work! Just make sure to rename the FEmulator folder in kasumi as protag and load the jp voicepack below kasumi

And yes

Development will still be slow because I have school but I don't plan on dropping this mod yet

That being said I think the actual female protag mod has way more practical use than this one

[light horizon]

True... what with dealing "anomalies" and all that but she's my favourite character so I honestly don't really mind lol

[kindred comet]

Yeah

Beside the animation bugs of this mod actual FePC is just way more vanilla friendly

[light horizon]

Yeah that too

Back then I thought it would make sense if Kasumi replaced Joker in vanilla P5 but in Royal kinda meant to you-know-what
After a few games in this I just gradually didn't care about it and just played

[woven cobalt]

The only bad thing about the new Fem protag mod is it's very janky with the animations other than that it's amazing

[light horizon]

Then again that'd be something to improve overtime so we'll need patience

[light horizon]

Wait should I expect the same bugs here as well

What with the voices going muted and all that

[kindred comet]

Not if you rename the femulator folder in kasumi as protag

That'll get rid of the replaced voicelines but everything will play again

And it would be compatible with FemPC's voice pack

[cyan needle]

REALLY tempting to do this but im already after haru and saving out for Sumire's romance option which for some reason isn't included??

actually

i'll save it for NG+

since i planned to do a 4th run anyway

[unreal sapphire]

been playing the mod, and for some reason the level up icon for after you've used Instant Kill does not have Kasumi as the Protag as the level up image as normal

[light horizon]

Do you mean only the mini-icon after an instakill? The wanted image is still kasumi's right

[unreal sapphire]

Yeah the mini icon, i havent tried instant kill with kasumi on foot so i wouldnt know about that part if thats what your asking

[light horizon]

Confirmed it for you, instakill on foot is also unreplaced

[willow shale]

The instakill icon uses a different spd than the normal results screen for some reason. The file pathway for it is: EN.CPK/FIELD/PANEL/INST_KILL_RESULT/FIELD_SNUFF.spd

[kindred comet]

Atlus why

Thanks for linking the file path

I'll get around to replacing it soon

[willow shale]

No problem, I had this same headache for my own mod for the longest time lmao

[cyan needle]

@kindred comet

i loaded an interview event then loaded a save and this happened

somehow

didnt you fix the CBT cutscenes

or has that not been released

the crew

[light horizon]

So the model is still gonna go twitchy???

[wraith juniper]

barradin

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MochaCoffeee

also if you wanna make any texture edits make sure you give them a unqiue name bc iirc the game doesn't reload textures for each model so this can happen if there's textures that share a name

Jump

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[cyan needle]

still weird it hasnt been fixed for 0.2

i could fix it i know how to

[grizzled crystal]

its incredibly easy

[light horizon]

I wanna know too... I just don't wanna encounter it once I beat the boss in my current run

[cyan needle]

it is literally the easiest fix

[light horizon]

How do you do it

[cyan needle]

rename a file and its link in the gmd

[light horizon]

What are the names in this case

[cyan needle]

there

i fixed it

i think

let me get to a save point and test

[light horizon]

Just gotta replace the file with this one huh (while renaming it correctly of course)

[cyan needle]

okay eyah i fixed it

i just renamed the colour and highlight with _rough at the end

[kindred comet]

I didn't fix it because I'm using a different model

I just didn't put it in 0.2 because the hair glitches out

[cyan needle]

not sure how the hair could glitch

[kindred comet]

Clips into her head and stuff

[cyan needle]

ah

yeah thats just a general issue with physics

[kindred comet]

Think it's just because the Joker anims don't have proper keyframes for her hair bones

[kindred comet]

Unreleased

[light horizon]

so I should expect the model going twitchy at awakening huh

[kindred comet]

?

Ig I might as well ask now though

[light horizon]

this one

[cyan needle]

the 3 cbt events will have broken visuals due to bone differences (Satanel Awakening, and final boss fights)

[light horizon]

or does the gmd you sent earlier work

[kindred comet]

@echo thicket would it be alright if I retargeted the anims from CBT no prerenders and released it in this mod?

[echo thicket]

sure

[kindred comet]

Thanks

[light horizon]

oh I've encountered that quite a handful of times honestly

[kindred comet]

I may as well just use the ponytail one for now though

I just didn't bother with renaming it because lazy

[cyan needle]

plus tbf i dont know why they would untie her ponytail for the interview

[kindred comet]

I mean

It makes a lot more sense for her hair to be down if they've been like

Drugging her and kicking her around

Just fits the aesthetic more

[cyan needle]

yeah i guessss

[kindred comet]

If I ever figure out how to make her hair not like

F l y

Then I'm definitely gonna make hair down the default for interrogation

[cyan needle]

@kindred comet this interaction with Shadow Sae still uses default joker aniamtions

[kindred comet]

First interaction with Shadow Sae?

[cyan needle]

yeah

[kindred comet]

Noted

Thanks

[cyan needle]

the one where she tells you its up to the managers office

[kindred comet]

Looking cool, Joker!

I guess maybe the borders cover it up but I'm surprised I didn't notice the massive clipping until now

The arm clips wayyyy more than this when he's getting his phone

[unreal sapphire]

I dont have a screenshot, but the flashbacks during Akechi's 2nd level confidant interaction when you notice his handedness has joker instead of Kasumi in them

[kindred comet]

Yeah none of the flashback images are replaced yet

However I definitely plan on going through and replacing them

[unreal sapphire]

Ok cool

[cyan needle]

not sure if a bug or a kasumi issue

[kindred comet]

Hmm?

Did it softlock?

[cyan needle]

nope

went through normally

just she was sideways for some reason

[kindred comet]

Probably a Kasumi thing

I think

Well

Vanilla does it for a split second

[cyan needle]

maybe they messed up the rotation and rotated his animations or something?

[kindred comet]

Probably

Also I'm gonna be releasing a new mod soon

Unrelated to this project

[light horizon]

Oh? What is it

[kindred comet]

https://gamebanana.com/mods/441228

I also plan on doing a rewrite for the new chapter interrogation scenes

Not a full rewrite just a minor one that stops her from spoiling the plot

Medjed and Sae reveal won't have any changes though since those are amazing

[light horizon]

Interesting. Time-saving too

[kindred comet]

Yep!

I honestly just looked into removing the cutins because of how annoying and redundant they are

Not only that but they harm the game's pacing for no actual reason

They're fine in chapter 1 when everything is still being setup but afterwards they're completely unneeded

I do plan on making the Sae interrogation "rewrite" and then making another rewrite mod for some scenes if they need it

The main scene I'm thinking of is that really stupid exposition dump with Shido and Akechi right after the PTs trick Akechi

This entire scene has to be some of the worst writing in the entire game

Atlus seems to really struggle with show don't tell

[woven cobalt]

Yeah, this scene is the only thing I dislike about P5. It's so pointless, lol. Like Joker could ask why he's obsessed with Shido, and then Atlus could make and add an anime cutscene going over his backstory.

[kindred comet]

Yeah it's so weird

I think I'm gonna be increasing the scope of that rewrite project

I'd like to fix some of the remaining issues of this project and also fix the remaining Joker idles

And just polish it a bit more before I work on the rewrite project

Once the rewrite starts I'll still work on this project but it won't be my main priority

[light horizon]

fair enough (what with the other femc mod and all that)

[kindred comet]

Oh no honestly I'm just more interested in doing the rewrite project

Real FeMC didn't really influence my decision a whole lot

I would like to fix floating sitting anims during classroom scenes though

And would like to add skirt/hair physics to Joker anims

[light horizon]

oh ok
Well, in any case, take your time

[light horizon]

I kinda expected the props to act weird at the last gunshot to Adam Kadmon...

[cyan needle]

just found out thats what his persona is named

[light horizon]

You mean evolved form

[cyan needle]

? i meant as in i didnt know that was called Adam Kadmon

[light horizon]

Oh the persona is Azathoth/Adam Kadmon

[wispy robin]

[vagrant flame]

I made a quick edit for Sumire versions of most of the bust ups if anyone wants to use them

Just drop them in this directory

[vagrant flame]

honestly I feel you could remove most of the scenes from the anatagonists' perspectives and the story would be better for it

most of them feel like the Dr. Evil scenes from Austin Powers but played seriously

[kindred comet]

That's really just because they're poorly executed

They're definitely needed for the villains but some kinda just come across as "oh look at me im so evil muahahahaha"

Which I mean is the point for some of them

But with Shido especially its just like

why

I'm playing P5S for the first time and while I don't really care about the tony stark villain guy (im doing his jail rn) one thing I can give him is that he's like

Actually an active villain

Which led to one of the coolest and most tense moments in the game so far

I think I'm kinda picking up on what angle they're going with for him and while I don't reaaaally see it I do appreciate the lack of "two villains talking about their shared criminal history together while revealing nothing to one another"

P5 spends so much time on Shido in December which makes sense but in virtually every scene he's doing absolutely nothing

He's either:

1. Revealing exposition to the audience

or
2. Talking about how EVIL he is (either through other characters constantly praising him or him just threatening people lol)

[light horizon]

These bustups are for protag kasumi correct

[vagrant flame]

ye

[vagrant flame]

I haven't played through P5S yet, I might try it after this playthrough

though I'm usually all P5'd out by the end of playthroughs

yeah I'd say Akechi was handled significantly better (at least for most of the game) than Shido and especially the SIU director and principal

honestly not even really sure why the SIU director needed to exist

[woven cobalt]

P5S is a miserable experience

At least in my opinion anyway haha

[vagrant flame]

i know next to nothing about it

my friend has tried to convince me to play it but he's also a huge persona fan

[woven cobalt]

I got to the second chapter(?) and I had to stop It was so boring lol

Though my opinion isn't fact so if you do play it and enjoy it I'm glad!

[kindred comet]

Honestly super valid

I don't really like that it exists

It really contradicts some of the themes P5 ended with

And the villains are even more one note than P5's

The gameplay is like

Eugh

It's fine but I definitely prefer FEW Three Hopes

[cyan needle]

I personally heavily disagree on the matter of villains

Since it puts more emphasis that they're not necessarily terrible people, but their vulnerabilities are used against them, turned into tools of disaster

[kindred comet]

Honestly they just come across as boring and petty imo

The game does delve into why they've been made into monarchs but it never really did anything for me

I really prefer P5's villains where they really just serve as a critique of society and threaten the protags in an effective manner (even if formulaically)

3rd monarch is definitely one of the more interesting ones though

[cyan needle]

I feel like only really Alice falls flat

Ango's thing is that basically, originality is never appreciated, driving him to plagiarize because "what's the point in actually trying for people who are this ungrateful?"

Mariko's case is a situation where she tightens safety measures just so that she doesn't have to feel responsible for another accident that wasn't her fault

And it kinda goes on and on like this

It's a critique on society in a different manner from the Palace Rulers

[kindred comet]

Mariko is definitely my favourite one

It's much harder to want to take her down because of how she treats Haru

[cyan needle]

Yea, I can see that

[kindred comet]

And how she seems more genuinely flawed than the others

[cyan needle]

Yea, that's kinda where it builds towards, and it goes from there

[kindred comet]

As for Ango he just fell into the petty hole for me

Like none of what he was doing was as bad as the palace rulers

[cyan needle]

And that's kinda his problem - he's very much petty, and this is what is being taken advantage of

[kindred comet]

It was just kinda boring

[cyan needle]

Each person has a vulnerability that gets taken advantage of, by being given power they never were meant to have

SPOILER ||Just wait til we get to Akane||

[kindred comet]

They're also the foils of their respective characters but I just found that to be reaaaaally on the nose for the first two

[kindred comet]

Yeah ||Akane ||is good I never really considered her much of an antagonist though

[cyan needle]

Either way, they're not, like, as evil as the Palace Rulers, which is the point

At worst, they're pawns in a grander scheme

[kindred comet]

Yeah but they're kinda just boring

[cyan needle]

||Also, no cap, I like Ichinose||

[kindred comet]

They don't really challenge the PTs ideals

Which is more or less an overall flaw with the writing in that game as a whole

[cyan needle]

Because they aren't really meant to be directly challenging those ideals

[kindred comet]

They kinda are though

[cyan needle]

But rather be a dark twist of those ideals, like an example of how it all could go wrong

[kindred comet]

They serve as foils to those characters

But without challenging the heroes ideals or even just making them ask questions the villain isn't doing much

Which is whats making them so boring

I do like the idea of a more redeemable antagonist compared to the palace rulers

It was just kinda poorly executed

[cyan needle]

Because that's not really the point of most of them - they aren't there to directly question an ideal that's already been solidified and ironed out with time

[kindred comet]

Well exactly that's just boring

Not really sure why I should care about them as an antagonist

[cyan needle]

That also being said, you cannot do rehashes either, because then it basically makes everything in P5 pointless

[kindred comet]

Well P5S is basically a giant rehash of P5

[cyan needle]

Because, at the end of the day, they aren't really major antagonists

But more so pieces of a puzzle

[kindred comet]

But you can have an effective antagonist without making them major evil antagonists

[cyan needle]

||Even if I feel like the Demiurge thing is overdone because...well...Demiurge||

[kindred comet]

Also the mystery they were setting up was shrouded in so much uh

mystery

That it was hard to really care?

Like I knew the game was setting something up

But it hardly threw much the players way

[cyan needle]

Either way, I dislike P5S for everything BUT the characters

Yea, the gameplay really isn't good

There, I said it

Minmaxing is absolutely horrendous in P5S

[kindred comet]

She's pretty interesting and definitely the highlight of the game but also kinda weak imo

[cyan needle]

Like, you jump through literal hoops just to minmax one thing

[kindred comet]

I think a large part of that is her lack of screentime

And actual bonding with the PTs

Part of why Maruki is so effective is because you voluntarily got to bond with him and even see him interact with the PTs on a personal level

[cyan needle]

||Honestly, Ichinose is kinda painfully relatable - I relate with her constant lingering thought that real people will never be something she'll understand, and in return, no one will understand her either||

[kindred comet]

His ideals are also rock solid and serve as a genuine challenge to the PTs ideals but the fact that the player gets to know him personally is a very big part of why he's so good

But yeah I beat P5S a bit ago

Definitely a bittersweet experience

The combat is just

It's definitely a musou game™️

And the story basically just being a retreading of P5 kinda saddened me

Ig its my fault for expecting something out of a spinoff but wow it was really disappointing for an official sequel

The plot structure feels like a fanfic from an inexperienced writer

The best part though was definitely the character interactions between the main cast

[cyan needle]

Which is a bit ironic

Considering Ango is equated to being a Wattpad writer

[kindred comet]

And also the increased character development of Ann, Haru, and Yusuke

Character scenes are great even if they are flanderized a bit

except the hot springs one like

no

[kindred comet]

Koei Tecmo self insert real

[cyan needle]

||But yea, favorite character is Ichinose, no questions asked||

[kindred comet]

Valid she's p good

Honestly Zenkichi was an unexpected favourite of mine

Along with Sophia

[cyan needle]

Those were the GOATs

[kindred comet]

It is definitely THEIR game

Literally

[cyan needle]

Also, damn shame that Dream Needle is Phys again

[kindred comet]

Wait is it? I didn't even notice lmao

[cyan needle]

Yea

It was Phys in vanilla, Gun in Royal, then Phys again in Strikers

Like, they can't decide if this should be Phys or Gun

[kindred comet]

That's probably just because Strikers was in dev the same time as Royal

• because Koei Tecmo was making it

[cyan needle]

lel

[kindred comet]

The one thing that really annoys me are the vanilla P5 portraits

[cyan needle]

Still, this isn't the only instance of inconsistency with Dream Needle

[kindred comet]

[cyan needle]

Dream Needle was Gun in SMT IV and IVA, but it was Phys in V

Granted, SMT V had no Gun element, but still

[kindred comet]

Fun

[cyan needle]

And yea, I dunno why they removed Gun from SMT V - oh wait, it's because SMT V is just Nocturne 2.0

[rugged gorge]

No update?

[cyan needle]

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-gif-26070434

[woven cobalt]

I'm hoping for another one soon

[light horizon]

I mean, this kind of stuff does take time so... patience.

[rugged gorge]

No i was joking, take your time

[woven cobalt]

Can't rush perfection (this mod is the best for P5R imo)

[light horizon]

Speaking of the mod... have you seen this?
https://gamebanana.com/projects/36354

rn it's just as a project, not downloadable yet

personally I think this idea is really interesting

[cyan needle]

oh i like the idea

[kindred comet]

Yes actually! They asked for permission to make that a bit ago

[kindred comet]

Also I hope to start working on a new update either this week or next week (after the 20th)

[light horizon]

Oh cool! I'm already looking forward to what the overhaul is gonna cook up

[kindred comet]

v0.2.2 will be a smaller update focused on fixing some of the remaining level up icons and a few event animations that don't need transform edits

After that I'll try making v0.3 with transform edits for animations, I'll also look into fixing some event oddities like glasses not appearing on Kasumi (during a Sumire confidant event)

[light horizon]

Cool, take your time! We can wait

[kindred comet]

Thank you!

[light horizon]

Oh about animations… which side do the 2 Showtime attacks count?

[light horizon]

looks like this scene, protag Kasumi's face is from the interrogation room's

If you look closely her face is more pale than it should be

and a more direct shot... maybe

No wait... looks like this affected NPC Kasumi as well

...

Looks like protag Kasumi is having that pale face from the interrogation room starting from 5/13...

And it only went back to normal after I did something in 5/14 evening

[grizzled crystal]

same texture name moment

[light horizon]

Oh...

Can't be helped I guess

[grizzled crystal]

it can

[kindred comet]

That's related to this

Honestly I forgot if I released the fix for that or not

[woven cobalt]

I'd love for someone to make custom outfits for this mod I think that'd be very epic

[grizzled crystal]

any kasumi outfit mod should work with a simple rename

[woven cobalt]

Sorry If I'm being a dumbass here but what do you mean by rename?

[light horizon]

I think they meant that the outfit names still shows Joker's

So in this case should change the names and descriptions to Kasumi's outfits

[grizzled crystal]

no

[light horizon]

oh huh

[woven cobalt]

N O

[light horizon]

wait do you mean that like literally

when they make a mod's outfit they change that description too

[grizzled crystal]

just change the name of the gmd and folder

[grizzled crystal]

no ?

[woven cobalt]

Just be clear I meant custom outfit like for example a Tifa outfit over Kasumi's PT outfit

[cyan needle]

yeha

just rename it

[woven cobalt]

I'd wanna make a Mitsuru outfit for Kasumi but don't know where to start lol

[cyan needle]

youd want ot start with getting Mitsuru's model

[grizzled crystal]

oh i did that for my kasumid over joker lmao

[woven cobalt]

Are there any video/written tutorials I can follow?

[light horizon]

Speaking of which I still don't know which does this count

[kindred comet]

Idk what you mean by that

[light horizon]

That was what you mentioned…

Which do showtimes count, with or without transform edit

[kindred comet]

No

Transform edits just refer to something like a sitting anim positioned differently than normal

Idk how exactly to fix the showtime ones anyways since I'm not an animator

[light horizon]

hm... ok

[light horizon]

I correct that… it actually started from first exam

[kindred comet]

Yes, it's already fixed in the upcoming release

[light horizon]

cool

[light horizon]

Oh so for example the sitting animations (which ends up floating) and when she lies on the floor she clips through it (overheated bath, ||0% on survey causing existence elimination||)

Correct me if I’m wrong

[kindred comet]

Mainly the sitting animations but maybe the cutscene ones too

The ones where she clips into the floor probably can't be fixed by just moving the entire anim up though

Since that could mess with her standing position and whatnot

[light horizon]

And I dunno if it counts… outfits going weird (flipped up as if they’re still sitting) while another anim is playing instead

[kindred comet]

A lot of those would probably just need tweaks

[kindred comet]

Idk how to fix that so probably not

I think I know why it happens though

[light horizon]

Okay… I guess replacing it with a corresponding Kasumi anim just won’t cut it huh

[kindred comet]

Problem is there aren't corresponding anims for a lot of those scenarios

[light horizon]

The outfits immediately acts normal again upon a Kasumi anim coming in play, then it freezes upon a Joker anim
Honestly… I’m kinda already used to it (even post battle result screen)

[kindred comet]

Probs because there aren't any keyframes for her skirt in the Joker anims

[light horizon]

I guess so

[kindred comet]

So it just freezes in place

[light horizon]

Oh well, guess they’ll have to get used to it then (a friend of mine who also wanted to try this mod out)

[kindred comet]

Thankfully Mudkip added skirt keyframes in Joker anims for FeMC iirc and said I could use them whenever that come sout

[light horizon]

Oh the Fuller Moon/FeMC protag creator?

[kindred comet]

Yes

[light horizon]

Cool

[kindred comet]

I mean yeah stuff like this is to be expected when dealing with a project like this

Esp at my current experience level

[light horizon]

He’s just being a liiiittle bit too picky (seriously, it just means he hasn’t seen worse situations)

[kindred comet]

That's fine honestly its up to people to set their expectations

[light horizon]

True

[light horizon]

So I tried using a costume mod (has the whole gang's) with this one the other day while also manually changing some files (so that 0010's costumes a.k.a. Party member Kasumi applies to 0001's a.k.a. Joker/Protag Kasumi) and it actually worked... should I expect some unseen issues

[kindred comet]

Not really

[light horizon]

Great

[kindred comet]

Probably gonna work on the minor update tomorrow and release it the same day

[woven cobalt]

What's being fixed/changed?

[kindred comet]

Level up sprites still being Joker's, interrogation textures not unloading, and a few event animation fixes

[woven cobalt]

How did you make the Kasumi bust-up work in Font/Select? I'm trying to make the Makoto bust-up work and I'm struggling lol

[kindred comet]

I just aligned Kasumi's bust up over Joker's

No blinking though because it wouldn't work properly

[woven cobalt]

Did you use Gimp?

[kindred comet]

I used Photoshop

Gimp should work fine as long as you convert the png into a DDS file

[woven cobalt]

Should I have the bust-up as a png first then convert it into a DDS file?

[kindred comet]

Yeah

[grizzled crystal]

if you're struggling alot idm doing it or explaining the process if you wanna send the files in dm

[woven cobalt]

I'll send you the files in DM's

Thanks a lot lol do you want any compensation?

[grizzled crystal]

nah

[kindred comet]

v0.2.2 is out! Lmk if it updates correctly from Reloaded I butchered the update metadata or something

[light horizon]

I noticed that sometimes when protag Kasumi goes to sleep her eyes aren’t completely shut, half open

That’s another animation issue?

[kindred comet]

Yeah most likely

[kindred comet]

I'll hopefully start working on this soon

Just wanna get through P4G first

[woven cobalt]

P4G is a W game take your time

[light horizon]

It's fine! No one's in a hurry

[light horizon]

Wait how did you do that anyway? I was wondering that for a while

[woven cobalt]

Probably model replacments using GFDStudio

Pretty much just put the outfit file over the winter outfit file using GFDStudio then boom you profit.

[cyan needle]

you don’t need to even using GFDstudio

just rename the catherine dlc file for her to be the same as her school outfit

[light horizon]

Oh it's that simple huh

[woven cobalt]

Wait really? Never knew that lol

If you do ever run into trouble though I can try and help you

[light horizon]

Uh... wow.

[woven cobalt]

@kindred comet Have you seen the Kasumi story overhaul? It's sick!

[cursive galleon]

pretty sure he has, he even commented on it if im not mistaken

seems really interesting, probably gonna use it once its out

[woven cobalt]

Everything except the confidants are done

You can download it in the mods discord server incase you were wondering

[cursive galleon]

nice, thanks for letting me know

[kindred comet]

Yeah it looks really promising

[woven cobalt]

Love your profile pic btw

[kindred comet]

Thanks!

[light horizon]

So uh... is this already known? Kasumi holding her phone upside down...

[cyan needle]

is that not how you use your phone

[cinder vapor]

That's a feature

[kindred comet]

And yeah I've known about it

There's really not much I can do

I changed it's orientation so it would face the right way when it's used in a Kasumi anim

There's a lot of Joker anims so even if I do actually tweak anims the problem probably won't fully go away for a while

Also ideally I'd like to get 0.3 out sometime in July

Not sure if I will though kinda lost interest and motivation for this mod but I would like to at least get that out so the audio thing is fixed

Also I've had a github repo for the mod and will probably public it when 0.3 releases

So people can contribute in an easier way if they want

And also judge my awful workflow LOL

To be honest the mod is in a pretty good spot for me personally despite some of the visual stuff

[cinder vapor]

[kindred comet]

gonna work on v0.3 this week

these are the main goals i've outlined on my trello:

• Moving all of the voice lines to a separate mod DL, ENG only for now
• Field voice lines will no longer use Femulator as it still breaks playback for some reason (this'll cause the mod to be bigger)
• Tweak some animations like the classroom sitting anim, Sumi showtime anim, and a few others
• Potentially fix the hair/skirt bones resetting position or freezing whenever playing a Joker anim
• Fix the party hud (thanks to xJustAdam)

It's mainly a polish update but I hope to release the femc outfit after FERM is out

I think v0.3 might be the last "wip" version as I'd like to focus on polishing anims in the next update afterwards

That's the main thing I feel really needs to be fixed

Once that's fixed I feel like I can safely go ahead and make it a full v1.0 release

[cinder vapor]

If you ever find a way to fix the bones from resetting position, tell me. I am looking for a solution to that as well, and will notify you if I figure out a way.

[woven cobalt]

A new update for this mod is hype!

[wispy robin]

a bit nitpicky i know but are the footsteps while running in the metaverse ever gonna get restored

[kindred comet]

idk how to restore those

[wispy robin]

[kindred comet]

actually

lemme check something

yeah idk whats responsible for spawning them

im guessing a keyframe maybe

but i cant find one

[woven cobalt]

Yeah FeMC walking sounds like running I guess it's just a wacky little bug

[rugged gorge]

Do you have sumi phantom outfit without her mask?

[kindred comet]

yeah

[rugged gorge]

Ok

[kindred comet]

@fierce yew how did you handle adding skirt physics to joker anims for femc? i assume you baked them into bone keyframes?

i've been trying to do it in blender but the physics look like shit

[fierce yew]

Bone dynamics pro with manual tweaking on just battle anims, the rest is the skirt having actual physics chunj

[kindred comet]

What does the physics chunk do exactly if the physics are all baked into anims?

[fierce yew]

not all physics are baked

on anims where they arent baked, the physics chunks will take over

[kindred comet]

oh interesting

but then what causes skirts & hair to just freeze or reset? do those bones still need keyframes to prevent that from happening

since now that you mention it i have noticed that the prisoner kasumi outfit does have some physics to it when walking around

[fierce yew]

Some bug with joker anims

Its fixed once I replace with kasumi anims or nuke specific controllers

[kindred comet]

is it actually just a case by case bug on jokers

thats kinda funny but also

are there any controllers in specific that cause it or does it just vary

[fierce yew]

random pelvis helpers and head bones

joker also made physics murder itself on makoto with a random ass controller in a running anim

[kindred comet]

well hopefully that'll fix the physics issues

tyy

also semi-related but do you know where the values for bounding boxes come from? aside from like stealing them from the original anim asset

and if i were to just move an anim's position would i need to come up with a new bounding box or could i just re-use the vanilla asset's bounding box values

[fierce yew]

I just reuse vanilla

Its generated through math but no idea from how or what

[kindred comet]

alright good that simplifies things a lot

[kindred comet]

oh btw how do you actually add the bounding box with 010?

[kindred comet]

We're so back

and an attempt at baking jacket and hair physics into the victory animation

doesnt loop super well

and i think part of the jacket still flies upwards

yeah

[kindred comet]

@fierce yew sorry for all the questions but how did you delete the controllers for specific bones? i cant delete anything using the 010 templates or gfd studio

[fierce yew]

I renamed them in gfd to dicknballs(#)

[kindred comet]

tyy again lmao

[kindred comet]

i've nuked so many controllers atp for animation 18 and the bug is still there

specifically chose that one since its the solo win anim so its easier for me to see if the bones freeze like this

actually starting to question if kasumi even has a functioning physics chunk

[fierce yew]

not for skirt lol

skirt is custom on femc

she has em for hair ties and jacket tho

[kindred comet]

wait she only has them for the ribbons and jacket??

well the jacket kept breaking too but like

[fierce yew]

atlus doesnt properly support skirt physics chunks

those are all baked

[kindred comet]

could i steal them from femc then

or is there a way to make them

ig that does make sense though, her showtime trigger has no physics for her jacket

i havent looked at the keyframes for that though so it might just be manually static

[kindred comet]

that wouldnt work actually so im just gonna make my own

i think i kinda get it from what i gleamed from femc, kasumi, and the prisoner outfit

idk what the field values mean though

[fierce yew]

you should very much not make skirt physic chunk

the physics engine isnt built for it

the only reason femc has it is to give movement because im not baking skirt anims into every overworld anim

so flowly clipping > stiff clipping

it will also make it clip on normal kasumi anims because physics chunks still effect normal anims

so unless you want to manually adjust every anim lol

[kindred comet]

yeah i ended up noticing the physics just

still being active during normal anims

i was under the impression that like

the physic chunk would only be active if there's no keyframes

im kinda at a crossroads here though since i really dont wanna bake skirt physics for all the battle and field anims

granted the game does reuse a lot of the same animations for field anims but

there's like 100+ field gaps and over 400 event gaps

[kindred comet]

voice clips work again!

this wasnt difficult to get working at all i just didnt want to include the entire awb

anyways ENG vo will be a separate download and will use the packed awb until FEmulator works with single voice line

[woven cobalt]

AWWW

Sumo WWWW

Typo ugh

[kindred comet]

these have been done since like the first download but wouldnt play back because of femulator issues

honestly its probably because of these two files

im not sure why but there's two files that dont have the streaming part and they're taking up slots

[rugged gorge]

Is it out yet?

[kindred comet]

it wont be for a while probably

kasumi showtime is less horrifying

i just deleted two of the four eye controllers and killed most of the mouth controllers

might re-animate them but the anim works good enough now

also fixed up akechi showtime face

i was gonna bake physics for this one but the jacket bones/mesh kept stretching out like this

this happened for the special gun anim thingy but i somehow fixed it

i dont remember how i fixed it though

the akechi one just needs more work in general

i'll probably have to move the arm so the grappling hook is actually drawn correctly

and ofc fix the weapons disappearing and reappearing (i have no idea why that happens )

also fixed party hud

[light horizon]

Great! Always glad to see progress updates!

[short spade]

assuming i didn't break another random sprite that i didn't see yet

[woven cobalt]

@kindred comet Are there still plans to make a Sumire version for this?

[kindred comet]

Eventually but only after I get done with a full release version

and it'll require the Kasumi mod as a base

I think I would have to re edit nearly every gap though since the ones I currently have don't have any keyframes for the longer parts of her hair

[woven cobalt]

It'll be worth it because Sumire is love and life

I look forward to it

[fierce yew]

hair has actual physics

youd be fine

[kindred comet]

it does but it can do some weird clipping without proper keyframes

even in kasumi's anims

it would really come down to just adding like

[fierce yew]

well unless you want to add keyframes for every animation ever

clipping is ok

[kindred comet]

2 keyframes lol but it would be annoying

oh no clipping as in like

[fierce yew]

xenoblade 3 has clipping everywhere, but everything has physics so it looks ok

even re engine games have a bunch of clipping at times (jamie sf6)

[kindred comet]

okay can't find the image on my phone but the hair would sometimes like

clip all the way through her face

and look like a mangled mess

it's not that I want no clipping at all because P5 has a ton of it if you look closely I just at least want 2 keyframes so it doesnt be quirky

there it is

[woven cobalt]

She looks pretty good

[fierce yew]

That happens in vanilla too (showtime)

Atlus moment

[kindred comet]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-gif-23059113

[woven cobalt]

She looks like me after trying to replace romances

[kindred comet]

new solution: glue glasses to every Kasumi model

sumire version is complete

also completely unrelated but my phone has gotten relatively warm by just using discord

wish they still used the old android version

[woven cobalt]

My Android is awful lol

This shit has meltdowns trying to use Instagram and Discord at the same time

[pallid plover]

honestly though i wish sumi's rank 10 confidant gave her a look that's like in between her old self and kasumi, instead of just kasumi lol

[keen hornet]

Like Hair down and no glasses or Ponytail and glasses?

[high hedge]

Me and bois watching film (I`m sorry if such problem had already been posted, search function of discord is quite bad)

[kindred comet]

well known sadly

I've screenshotted the majority of those so I should be able to catch and fix them at some point

[velvet crow]

Some new progress with the mod? there has been some time without more info

[light horizon]

So uh something crossed my mind

https://gamebanana.com/mods/480641
As this mod replaces cutins by default, do I have to manually replace 0001 with 0010? (Basically manually replacing Joker's cutin to Kasumi's)

[cyan needle]

i would assume so

you might be able to just rename the files though

im not 100% certain though so dont take it as granted

[cyan needle]

okay seems to not be as easy as i hoped

replacing the texture jkust breaks it

actually it does this even if the files are normal

so its definitely trying to load the correct file

well correct for Yoshizawa

because this is with the default files and all

[cyan needle]

HELP

[light horizon]

...guess I can't use this, damn

[naive storm]

The flame cutin mod changes the gmd that shows the sprites. This is what happens when you use the vanilla cutins with the changed gmd. So if you want the P5T Cutin with sumis face you can rename the dds from the mod from "BCT_P_BC0010.dds" to "BCT_P_BC0001.dds"

[cyan needle]

hm weird it’s pulling from sumire’s sprite

maybe i’m causing a race condition i’ll check through the files of yoshizawa stuff

i didn’t realise that was Royal Yoshizawa, you can’t really see it that well in motion

[naive storm]

I only know cause I was messing around with the files to use the vanilla cutins with the flame effect

[cyan needle]

@light horizon

put it under the Yoshizawa mod, then replace Joker's (BCT_P_BC0001.DDS) with Yoshizawa's (BCT_P_BC0010.DDS)

[light horizon]

Oh cool! Thanks a lot!!!

[arctic totem]

Hey, sorry to be a bother, is there any progress that you would share? It's been a minute since the last progress update

[cyan needle]

still on break for the time being afaik

[arctic totem]

Oh i though Wisteria was working on this mod; thank you anyway lad 👍

[short spade]

Just wanted to share some stuff I've been working on for this, with Wisteria's blessing!
Some stuff shown here:

• Fixed melee attack damage timing
• Replaced Joker's gun sounds
• Replaced most, if not all, of Joker's remaining VO outside of events (including the additional lines added by CBT)
• Replaced Arsene with Cendrillon with an altered awakening scene
• Utilizing costume framework (to replace CBT costumes and to add FeMC's outfit with P3 BGM)

Outside of that I've replaced a lot of UI elements like the icons for Joker's weapons, the names of costumes, the load screen wipes and icon, flashback images, and I've hidden Joker in the pause menu.
I've also swapped around some animations I noticed were being used in the wrong places.

[cyan needle]

also make sure to instruct people to rename/copy the Sumire costume folder to Joker on any costume mods they want to use

also shouldn’t it be playing Wiping All Out not Mass Destruction FES? (though i’m not sure if you’re just reusing the base game music)

[short spade]

Yeah that's the plan to use Wiping All Out for that costume

[short spade]

[grizzled crystal]

2009 SEES outfits lets goooo

[short spade]

I love the black recolour so I couldn't bring myself to replace it, had to make this one a new slot instead

[cyan needle]

is that the femc outfit port i did a while ago using Mudkip's model or is this your own version of it

i know i sent one to them but it wasnt included in the official release (i had gotten Mudkip's permission beforehand)

[short spade]

It's in the main version of the mod over one of the CBT costumes so I believe it's yours, not 100% sure though!

[cyan needle]

okay yeah thats the one i did

i had it replacing i think beta joker at the time

[short spade]

Yeah I think that's right

[cyan needle]

i should have honestly switched the hands to be yoshizawa's because if you really look the skin colour is different but shh

[short spade]

I did notice that but I think Wisteria has edited the skin colour on the hands to match

[cyan needle]

ah

i did all the model edits so i might have done it and forgot about it

i also just realised makoto and yoshizawa walk the same

the main difference is Yoshizawa doesnt ball her hands up

[short spade]

Danger Zone for the ambush music on Kotone's uniform

I've been looking at the FeMC Reloaded server too much

[cyan needle]

why not Pull The Trigger?

i remember people wanting to do that for the Reload one

[short spade]

I might be wrong but I'm pretty sure with Costume Framework I could use all three randomly, I may do that

[cyan needle]

maybe

you can

well you can with BGME Battle Themes

im not sure if Costume stuff goes through BGME

[short spade]

I think it does yeah

[cyan needle]

then yeah its pretty simple

[short spade]

Yep, it's done

Or maybe I should leave Wiping All Out with Pull The Trigger for ambush, and use Danger Zone over Keeper of Lust for minibosses

BGME gives me too much power

[cyan needle]

that would make more sense honestly

[pallid plover]

whatever you do, make sure people have the option to use randomized battle themes if they want

[short spade]

oops I misread I'm tired, yeah i'lll make room for randomized bgm

[rugged gorge]

Do you update the file in gamebanana?

[short spade]

It'll be Wisteria's call if they're happy to push an update or not

[rugged gorge]

Oh i thought it was a separate thread
Nvm don't worry

[short spade]

Band aid change for the interrogation scenes so they're less horrible to look at

[gentle tree]

what was wrong with them before?

[short spade]

Joker's anims caused her hair to clip through her face at times

Plus I just removed the loading wipe of Joker's silhouette so it's a less jarring transition

[cyan needle]

id say the wipe is too integeral to the scenes

its less seamless yes but its such an important part of the transition visually

[short spade]

I did want to replace it but the wipe is a 3d asset which is pretty out my comfort zone

Also I updated hundreds of event animations today so there's less janky animations I'll be seeing gap files in my sleep

[cyan needle]

should be possible to some extent using the EPL editor

i have some experience with models so i could try?

[short spade]

Feel free!
It's the TIMEWARP.GMD in BASE.CPK\FIELD\PANEL\WIPE

[cyan needle]

oh it’s just a GMD??

wow

also whats the events for the intergoation

i wanna see if i can just fix the ponytail

oh wow it really is just a model

i guess its the easiest way to make a vector graphic

id need to get someone who can draw though because i can not

[short spade]

Yeah, same here

[cyan needle]

do you know the interogation event animations names

since you were fucking with them earlier

[short spade]

Pretty sure they're in AE0001_053.GAP

[cyan needle]

cool

thanks

GHAHA

it looks so fucked up

[short spade]

Yeah.....

[cyan needle]

it looks fucked up mainly because of the lack of mats

[short spade]

At least we cant see her skirt bugging out cause of the table

[cyan needle]

whats weird is im not sure why the ponytail is broken

they look fine in blender

ill try adding a keyframe for them

[short spade]

It's not all the time it just has a tendency to poke through her face when she's moving her head

[cyan needle]

its usually pretty broken

ill try to hand animate some animation for them

since its only like 4 or 5 bones

P5 rig my beloved

[short spade]

Do you think you'd be able to change the position of the anim so her arms aren't clipping through the table?

I know Wisteria did that for some of the animations for in class and such

[cyan needle]

uhm

maybe

id need the table

if youre willing to go find the interrogation room

[short spade]

I'll have a look

[cyan needle]

im probably not going to go for full physics mainly because youd barely see it anyway

somewhat badly animated but servicable ponytail animation

[short spade]

I think I found the interrogation room but I can't see the table in it lmao

[cyan needle]

oh it might be an event item

whats the field anyway itll help kme find it

[short spade]

It's f012_003 and f012_103

[cyan needle]

hm

let me boot up the betas

the debug log should tell me whats model its loading in this event

thats everything it loads

found it

[short spade]

Damn I just got it lmao

Nice find

[cyan needle]

now i gotta load into Royal so i can get a screenshot of Yoshizawa in the event </3

crazy how much better royal looks holy shit

same scene btw

im probably going to have to manually fix each animation

manually fix every keyframe

[short spade]

Oh

[cyan needle]

its not hard just tedious

i can get it done in an hour or so

[short spade]

That'd be awesome

I'm probably going to look into learning how to fix up some animations myself, particularly baking physics like Wisteria had started to do

[cyan needle]

yeah i dont really know pyhsics stuff i just know how to hand animate

also we will need skirt physics you CAN see it

which is whatever thats going to be WAY easier to animate

i got the chair in for some reference

[short spade]

oh that's unfortunate

[cyan needle]

skirt physics is SUPER easy

espically when her legs dont move

[short spade]

oh that's fair then

[cyan needle]

like boom there done

[short spade]

oh wow okay

yeah that was fast

[cyan needle]

espically when you can cheat perspective

because like no ones going to notice this

(plus it hink joker clips also)

[short spade]

the satisfaction this gives me...

now i just need to do ella over satanael

[cyan needle]

shouldnt Ella be Raoul?

i think im going to need to redo this

which is whatever

im going to organise myself way better redoing this

[short spade]

yeah i was only going to do these two at first cause i have a feeling she's going to call for Vanadis at the end of the yaldy fight, but i can live with that

unless i also replace big boi satanael

[wispy robin]

this was an old thing that i remember being a problem but were the footsteps sounds when running in a palace ever restored

i remember them not existing for some reason

[cyan needle]

the hair still clips even though ive given it animation

but. the arms and skirt work now

once she moves her head down it works

might be something with the IK from her normal look up

wait i might actually nto haev rigged it for her look up animation

that might be hwhy

[short spade]

it's a big improvement just seeing the skirt not look messed up holy

good luck with the hair

[short spade]

yeah i have no idea why the footstep sounds disappear when sprinting, it was something i wanted to look into

[cyan needle]

look who has working hair now

[short spade]

being interrogated never looked so good

[cyan needle]

i just had to add hair animation to the animation before

if its coming from no animation it doesnt properly set the new animation

[short spade]

ah makes sense

thanks for taking the time! if you send me over the gap i'll add that in

[cyan needle]

i mean

only one animation is "finished"

and i just found a like

10x better way to do this that im probably going to restart it for a third time

but! this means a better final product

i figured out how to multiply the bone movement

so this should end up looking better then way i did it

[short spade]

oh! amazing

[cyan needle]

not perfect but WAY better then it was

[short spade]

Definitely

[cyan needle]

im going to focus more on getting the arms right and physics later

since making the physics is only like a 10 minute process

there we go

[cyan needle]

it looks like shes blocking

im having too much fun

[cyan needle]

i was over complicating this

@short spade heres a really cursed image of yoshizawa sitting like joker without clipping

i actually fixed the hair when i fixed the animation

i just found out this game has a keyboard input for this scene

[short spade]

This is such an improvement, good job!

[cyan needle]

im gonna fix the animation used for the close up a bit but im not too worried about the other ones

they look about as good as Sae's animations look

good enough

im going to manually give her some hair physics so we dont have the jitter problem

though i wont need to do that for the intro animation at least

[short spade]

This with the skirt fix is <3

I won't have to skip these scenes anymore lmao

[cyan needle]

the great thing about hand animating it

is i can exaggurate the hair animation when she turns her head

@short spade there we go

[short spade]

Legend, ty!

[cyan needle]

i know theres a few other animations here and there that are pretty broken

if you can alert me to the animation file and what the animation is i can fix them

or at least try to

[cyan needle]

i can also work backwards if you know which event it plays in

[short spade]

it's hard to say cause there's still so many that look a bit jank, i'm going through more event anims today to look for stuff to replace so if i find stuff that might not be too difficult for you i'll send it your way

if i recall right from the events i did yesterday most of the stuff i couldnt find a replacement for involves sitting

of course then there's the battle and metaverse anims that i think would need baked physics for the ponytail and the PT outfit

[short spade]

i raise you this

Oh I've found one of the worst ones

I'll leave this here if you feel like trying to fix it up @cyan needle - also so I don't forget which gap it is

[gilded frost]

she knows what you did 💀

[short spade]

fixed

[cyan needle]

what was the issue with it

[short spade]

it just didnt have the footstep properties assigned to the animation

[cyan needle]

ah

[cyan needle]

i dont know why i downloaded it knowing full well i have all the animations

[short spade]

i also dont know why i sent it knowing full well you have all the animations

seemed easier than typing it out lmao

[cyan needle]

i need to find the chairs for the video game scene

i cant figure out how to give myself the video game stuff

[short spade]

I can try having a look for it later

[cyan needle]

nah its good i found it

[short spade]

Oh awesome

[cyan needle]

Cri FileSystem Hook has a debug for this

ITS A GENERIC MODEL

i think thats about right

quality rigging atlus

not perfect but way better

[cyan needle]

@short spade

Do you happen to know where i can find her normal sitting animation

nvm

found it

[short spade]

Great work!

[cyan needle]

im going through some random events

just to see anything to fix

i just realised makoto and yoshizawa also stand very similar

also the camera clips into her in this scene though not reall ysomething we need to fix

TYHIS IS SUCH A FUNNY ASS ANIMATION

331_001

[cyan needle]

(also does anyone know info on baking physics because id be willing to go through them)

[wispy robin]

yayyy

[short spade]

My plan was to ask Wisteria if they had time to explain it, it seems hard to find info for specific uses

[cyan needle]

if Wisteria comes back with that info lmk, itd give me more chances to go through and fix some posing yoshizawa has

[short spade]

got bored and decided to try splicing a new line from okumura towards kasumi, not very flattering but the best one i got so far

[short spade]

that is NOT how you hold an umbrella kasumi

still looks better than joker's anims so long as you just dont turn the camera around lmao

i wonder if joker's umbrella is a separate item maybe i could rotate it so it doesn't go through her face

[short spade]

[cyan needle]

SLUTTY LOOKING WOMAN ??

you could have just changed it to say woman

pompous still would work in this situation