Inheritable Skills and Traits Data Location | Persona Modding | Page 1

tender moth Nov 26, 2022, 6:30 PM

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persona.tbl

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but all those things are also thrown in save file when you make new game, so changing wont affect your current save

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oh wait inheritable hee_shake

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iirc its a flag in skill.tbl

shut flint Nov 26, 2022, 6:39 PM

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That's where I had imagined it to be. I just didn't know how to open the file

shut flint Nov 26, 2022, 7:45 PM

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It would probably be in the skill elements section

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If it was in the table

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It's just not documented by a template or anything there's just two things there

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Yeah I know, it's only the redundant bit fields but idk

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I'm on cope that they're less redundant than they were listed

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or it's somewhere else

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My main lead is in the combine table, that'd make a lot of sense

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But I couldn't explicitly give you an answer so sorry about that.

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Yeah

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In Facility/Combine , that .dat (it's not a .tbl) but it stores all the information for persona combinations and such

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That being said...where are persona fusions?

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You know if inheritance is in there?

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oh wait actually I'm silly

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Thats in persona.tbl

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frost_pain

shut flint Nov 26, 2022, 9:01 PM

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traits are hardcoded in the .exe of the game, deathchaos confirmed that

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so I think traits r out of the question

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skills r diff tho

gray marten Nov 27, 2022, 1:01 AM

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zamn

shut flint Nov 27, 2022, 11:49 AM

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yeah that's what I figured

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Which once again is .dat in there

shut flint Dec 3, 2022, 2:21 AM

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@violet lark

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...apparently people using my mod said that Myriad Truths is inheritable?

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I was messing with it but

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it didn't work for me but i never reverted it

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idk what this means though.. LOL

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like I fucked with it and then I tried a quick fusion it didn't work and then I was like ok i guess it doesnt work

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now people are saying it does

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im confuse

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https://gamebanana.com/wips/71489

GameBanana

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I tweaked myriad truths for testing but I didn't uh...mean to include it in the pack

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I just forgot to change it back

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no

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it has not

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which means its still modified

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yeah imma be 100 idk what i did

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but ill look over the values a second time to double check for you

shut flint Dec 3, 2022, 2:25 AM

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shut flint Yeah I know, it's only the redundant bit fields but idk

like i mentioned here I SWEAR this is it

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cause that's the biggest thing i changed

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i copied the values from Agi (cause I know it's inheritable)

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 2:25 AM

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#1039359121926930443 someone also say that possible there blackfrostsexo

shut flint Dec 3, 2022, 2:25 AM

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yea skill.tbl

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 2:25 AM

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MT...

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very cool

shut flint Dec 3, 2022, 2:26 AM

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oh shit

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yeah I edited hassou tobi too

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LOL

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SHEEEEESH

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i think its either bit 5 or bit 6

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 2:27 AM

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sheesh

shut flint Dec 3, 2022, 2:27 AM

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make it true

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 2:27 AM

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inheritable Hassou tobi

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finally Chi You but useful

shut flint Dec 3, 2022, 2:27 AM

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i genuinely dont know which one it is tho

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since the bits are undocumented due to being redundant (probably was in vanilla)

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713

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 2:30 AM

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Fool InO moment!!

shut flint Dec 3, 2022, 2:31 AM

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i gotta sleep soon tho so lmk if that works @violet lark I'll check in on it tmr if you dont get it working

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since apparently i made a breakthrough and forgor jacksexo

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ight gl

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 2:32 AM

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i have endgame save but not really!!! blackfrostsexo

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hmm

shut flint Dec 3, 2022, 2:39 AM

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if it helps this is concentrate

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instead of lighting all of them to 1 try just 5 and 6 ig

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im not sure what the circumstances are either, they did say it changed a skill TO myriad truths, and then inherited that

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which sounds complicated as fuck

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hopefully that wont be the go-to method and we can easily pinpoint it

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should still be world

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whats his id again

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yea hes untouched

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 2:43 AM

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someone else

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shut flint Dec 3, 2022, 2:44 AM

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ill look at it in detail tmr at work

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BEDGE

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we find out the cause this week

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 2:44 AM

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naoebicchoccymilk

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Hassou Tobi is also inheritable... probably will check later

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idk about that, Hazl just said you can inherit Hassou Tobi

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i don't know myself

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lemme check

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yeah to inherit Hassou Tobi you need a skill to transform into Hassou Tobi

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then you can inherit it

shut flint Dec 3, 2022, 2:53 AM

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aight well I'll see then. The program and the original files are still open on my PC because I never close anything so I'll look at it tmr cause I'm in bedge now

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 2:53 AM

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gn blackfrostsexo

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 3:17 AM

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hm

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 4:14 AM

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what

mossy stone Dec 3, 2022, 4:18 AM

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mine looks like mudkip's

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oh like you updated the template?

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i just have snowy's change to p5r_tbl

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 4:40 AM

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WOOOOOO

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LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO

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holy shit holy shit

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My dream finally come true

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my Satanael Almighty Build will now be completed blackfrostsexo

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oh yeah you can't inherit tyrant mind

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Unshaken will

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Holy embrace

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Holy whisper

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Lmfaooooo

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https://aqiu384.github.io/megaten-fusion-tool/p5r/skills

blackfrostsexo this have all the unheritable skill (also include the party member skill so...)

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aah

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lmfao

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can't wait when i can use this mod blackfrostsexo

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 4:51 AM

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From the top of my head

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Holy Embrace

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Holy Benevolance

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Tyrant's Mind

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Hassou Tobi

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Ayamur

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 4:51 AM

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Holy whisper(?)

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 4:51 AM

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Morning Star

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Die For Me

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Yes that too

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Samsara

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All DLC skills, duh

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 4:52 AM

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duh

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 4:52 AM

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Uh, does this include traits

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If so, any DLC trait

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Black Viper

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Hardcoded to shit

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Or somethin?

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 4:53 AM

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yeah

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hardcoded to shit

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wtf

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how

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blackfrostsexo

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 4:54 AM

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Anyways, let's see

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 4:54 AM

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why is my fucking emoji go to creampie sex lmfao

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and what the fuck is the server that has that

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 4:54 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-what-you-just-deleted-gif-22613011

Tenor

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 4:54 AM

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i do not fucking know mate blackfrostsexo

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 4:55 AM

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Wow there's not much uninheritable shit

lime salmon Dec 3, 2022, 4:55 AM

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LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! LFGHEEFUCKINGHOOO

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 4:55 AM

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Abyssal eye

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 4:55 AM

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wait that is unheritable?

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 4:55 AM

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Yeah?

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 4:55 AM

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blackfrostsexo

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never use hastur myself

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 4:56 AM

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Anyways, I probably wouldn't use this

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Lmao

lime salmon Dec 3, 2022, 4:56 AM

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Morning Star on Satanael will be a reality risepray

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 4:56 AM

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I will for Morning Star

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 4:56 AM

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The only thing that'll be a significant upgrade is Neo Cadenza being put in a bullshit resistance persona

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Everyone else? Not really

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 4:56 AM

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blackfrostsexo

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 4:57 AM

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gray marten why is my fucking emoji go to creampie sex lmfao

Mudkip seeing the Logs:

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 4:57 AM

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Well maybe if I want to fish for max damage....

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 4:57 AM

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😔

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 4:58 AM

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Then again

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I can't record P5R on this shitass laptop

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So welp.

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Anyone that wants to fish for max damage, I know the setup

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 4:59 AM

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blackfrostsexo

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yes

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what is the fish for max damage

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 4:59 AM

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Cheat rebellion blade on Magatsu Izanagi for one

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Then all the boost passives

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Go to chemdah, find a horde with 5 enemies and one of those being a disaster shadow

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Knock it down

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Put everyone to sleep

lime salmon Dec 3, 2022, 5:00 AM

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So inheritable traits can't happen? Super hardcoded I guess?

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 5:00 AM

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Oh wait, use rage actually

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 5:00 AM

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hmm

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 5:01 AM

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Rage

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Nvm

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Sleep on the disaster shadow first

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Then rage everyone else

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 5:01 AM

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hmm

lime salmon Dec 3, 2022, 5:01 AM

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Here's hoping 👍🏾

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 5:01 AM

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After that, use items to knock down the non disaster shadows until you get rank 3 baton pass

Then voila, use rebellion blade on the disaster shadow

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Assuming you have all buffs and debuffs, of course

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 5:02 AM

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ayo

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lmfao

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 5:02 AM

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6/10

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 5:02 AM

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just to check for the funny

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 5:03 AM

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Btw

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 5:03 AM

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~~time to Gallows MT to Satanael~~ NVM satanael dont have Country Maker

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 5:03 AM

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The result

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double check

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If the result can inherit the tested skill

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For example, don't try Shining Arrows on a fusion with Arsene as a result or something like that

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Well you just touched the allowance of inheritance of skills

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But you did not touch the affinities of personas themselves

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Huh

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Wait they have those?

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Lol

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I think those are the levels of skills

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Higher levelled, stronger

Generally

That and harder to obtain in fusion in theory. That and facilitates skill mutations since they just go up a level to determine what skill it'll morph to.

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Wdym

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Of a persona?

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I guess the fusion calc tells you

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Inheritance table

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lime salmon Dec 3, 2022, 5:09 AM

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I spy Reddit 👀

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 5:10 AM

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They usually follow the table for resistances but not always

As you can see with ice being inheritable with Arsene

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Also shush

lime salmon Dec 3, 2022, 5:10 AM

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hehehe

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 5:12 AM

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Thought so

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Anyways maybe it's a good idea to make a version where every persona can learn x skill

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But that involves learning how they code affinities...

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Yeah maybe not

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Inherit almighty?

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That implies he can learn any skill

lime salmon Dec 3, 2022, 5:15 AM

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Perhaps that means any skill?

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 5:15 AM

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Oh

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Yes

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That's what it means but

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Level 1 fool

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Is Arsene

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Mmmaybe I should learn how to read

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Lmao

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 5:16 AM

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is the skill Gallowable tho blackfrostsexo

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 5:16 AM

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It should be

But those follows fusion rules as well

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 5:16 AM

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hmm

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 5:16 AM

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The only thing that doesn't is skill cards

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That's how I can give Arsene Gigantomachia or anything he can't learn via fusion

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 5:17 AM

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blackfrostsexo

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Gigantomachia on arsene...

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 5:17 AM

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Generally speaking

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 5:17 AM

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blackfrostsexo ight

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 5:18 AM

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Welp

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But hey, it works!!!

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 5:18 AM

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just make it inheritable and i'll test it Myself!!!

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 5:18 AM

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Now the only problem is traits

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 5:18 AM

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yeah...

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Country Maker Satanael is not a possibility blackfrostsexo

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 5:19 AM

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A lot on the plate of modders, it seems

lime salmon Dec 3, 2022, 5:20 AM

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Ye, absolutely appreciate what you've done Light 🥰

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 5:21 AM

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Good luck, man

hollow pecanBOT Dec 3, 2022, 5:21 AM

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yukikoHeart4

mossy stone Dec 3, 2022, 5:28 AM

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wait so

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what was it?

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danki

hollow pecanBOT Dec 3, 2022, 5:29 AM

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yukikoShrug2

mossy stone Dec 3, 2022, 5:31 AM

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like what was it that ended up determining whether its inheritable or not

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 5:34 AM

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Seems to be based on the skill itself or somethin'

shut flint Dec 3, 2022, 10:06 AM

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naisu gimme the updated tbl since I don't actually have Mudkip's bcaCuriousInspect

shut flint Dec 3, 2022, 10:30 AM

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nvm i found it i know how to search for things

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i must've accidentally changed the value in the OG table

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funny

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I uh, did manage to actually change this too I changed arsene to inherit almighty

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and forgot to change it back

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either way glad it was figured out

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BEDGE

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 11:00 AM

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Well if that's possible

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 11:00 AM

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reef oasis Anyways maybe it's a good idea to make a version where every persona can learn x...

This should be as well

shut flint Dec 3, 2022, 12:02 PM

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PepeLaugh

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I assume unknown[0] - 6 makes it inheritable?

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hm

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weird

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 12:52 PM

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again

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this is the levels of skills

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this metric's been used to facilitate mutations of skills

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and how hard it is to inherit a move in the PS2 era

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honestly that is weird

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then again

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first time we see boost and amps on a phys-based element

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in persona, at least

strong flower Dec 3, 2022, 12:56 PM

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A bit offtopic but will this community research be documented in any way after you're done? Because hopefully yes 😄

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 12:57 PM

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in hindsight

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those levels might also be a factor for gallows inheritance

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just like the PS2 era

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 12:59 PM

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blackfrostsexo

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 1:00 PM

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aye

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well it can be said like that generally

but yeah...innacurate

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more desirable skills are more or less higher levelled

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well you can

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if you chain one skill to mutate a fuckton to get to severe lol

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....I think that's the original intent of the fusion function of alarms

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but who tf cares about that, I want stats

and I can get skills very consistently using network fusion

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 1:12 PM

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ight because Morning Star Satanael is now possible

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i will make the funny build naosmiley

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yes lmfao

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imagine agathion with titanomachia

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LMFAO

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that possible? if yes Nice lmfao

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demistare

shut flint Dec 3, 2022, 1:30 PM

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its weird af but yeah

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its probably how "likely" the skill is

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 1:44 PM

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It's how they handle it in almost all megaten

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With skill mutations, at least

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.....maybe not that one

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Lmao

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 2:21 PM

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zamn

shut flint Dec 3, 2022, 5:53 PM

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blurry

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I assume the updated table has the traits section updated too

shut flint Dec 3, 2022, 6:18 PM

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???

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again?? LMAO

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Bro spawning tbls out of thin air

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wtf slide it here madge

shut flint Dec 3, 2022, 7:15 PM

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eos_grab

reef oasis Dec 3, 2022, 8:27 PM

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Real af

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Guess it's all over now

shut flint Dec 3, 2022, 8:45 PM

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its not over til Light gives me that TABLE

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is that from amicitia

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I requested to join that server 2 years ago and they never got back to me

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LMAO

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I was straight ignored and i was like 🆗

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oh well

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maybe I can make my own update

shut flint Dec 3, 2022, 9:31 PM

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wait i cant make my own update

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sadgeW

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tragic

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 10:23 PM

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holy shit!!!!

shut flint Dec 3, 2022, 10:26 PM

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one day in 2027 I'll get into amicitia

gray marten Dec 3, 2022, 10:41 PM

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blackfrostsexo

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Nice

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time to download both the fool and the world version

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just for Country Maker

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zamn!

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so like can i use the fool version to pass down Country Maker

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and then change it back to world

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femmcbean

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naosmiley

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time to try

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i have too many free time anyway

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oh wait

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shit i need to go to Madarame palace i forgot i replace all my Save file with NG+

mossy stone Dec 3, 2022, 10:52 PM

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slide it too if you get it snowy PleadingFluent

shut flint Dec 3, 2022, 11:05 PM

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That's when it becomes public they haven't answered me for years

shut flint Dec 4, 2022, 1:24 AM

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a year ago

#Inheritable Skills and Traits Data Location