Plenty bored at work so im just vomiting out a buncha custom recipes on the doc
#Arcane Isles 2
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Made a spell "Some Item Pipes" (
) so the quest book can say "Craft Some Item Pipes"
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Continuing the bored at work saga
Dont hv the exact colors currently being used in game, so just pixked out some random ones n drew some cores
cyan pecan
Noice
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yeah, tried making the grey bits look like archwood bark
clear oxide
ciel
obsidian helm
Ah btw CT is getting partial tag support for 
So if you really want you can have mossy cobblestone from that
or anyway remove dirts/stones from those conjurables
hazy bay
OKAY
fresh linden
@fleet remnant reminder to work on this this weekend
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@fresh linden fuck you. Come teach me kubejs
fresh linden
nah
cloud spear
I know how to add, modify, and remove recipes
Also item names
That's as far as I go though
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Well the thing is it cant possibly take qther more than 2hrs to get to my house
And he's the one askin for me to get crackin on making n finishing this pack
hazy bay
Well the thing is it cant possibly take qther more than 2hrs to get to my house
crash his house!
fierce kindle
Well the thing is it cant possibly take qther more than 2hrs to get to my house
time to find his commanding officer
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hmm, aside from the core content addons, what minor Ars addons do yall think I should add for QoL
lapis dawn
The more the merrier?
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Apothic Additions....?
lapis dawn
Also Qther's gonna come over and beat your ass if you don't include Controle.
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im including Controle anyways cause portable rituals
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Apothic Additions....?
yall hate me
hazy bay
Apothic Additions....?
If you wanr to completely fuck the balance. Sure
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yall hate me so much
lapis dawn
Er. I mean. No. I just like seeing you suffer.
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it's a race thing isnt it
lapis dawn
Don't even know what race you are Singapore is so mixed culturewise that you could be an angry viking as far as I know
hazy bay
lol sure, guess I hate myself too then 
hazy bay
Don't even know what race you are Singapore is so mixed culturewise that you cou...
am just cata him as an Asian, easier :p
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Neoforge is recommended right?
hazy bay
I mean..yea? Ars is not on fabric :p
lapis dawn
pretty much the only option if you want to do this in 1.21
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is forge not an option?
lapis dawn
For important drama reasons, not in 1.21, no
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ooo tea
lapis dawn
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gonna make this forge, publish to modrinth, and slap "All The" in the name
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https://neoforged.net/news/theproject/
tea 🔥
fresh linden
gonna make this forge, publish to modrinth, and slap "All The" in the name
wouldnt even work
ars is straight up incompatible with forge
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thats what i live for
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some people like open parties and claims but i have no clue why they do
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they're good, but annoying to navigate
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idk ftb just works
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u can disable hostile mob spawning in claimed chunks for one
but yeah, rly not-user-friendly
unintuitive*
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i have a strong preference for tombstones: corail
it has never failed me ever
but then again it adds content, which doesnt really fit the pack
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do we want to attempt to rope tech into the pack?
fresh linden
i have a stronger anti-preference for tombstones: corpse
that mod has failed me way too many times to count
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i just think the corpses r annoying
obsidian helm
Let's just make our own tombstone mod
fresh linden
do we want to attempt to rope tech into the pack?
i mean we're already gonna have create no?
i think thats enough tech
obsidian helm
So Qther can blame directly the author in the mirror
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do we want to attempt to rope tech into the pack?
deciding whether to include Energistique, but that'd mean AE2, which means tech
fresh linden
im personally very down for ae2
but i know some people would prefer not having it
probably xacris included
probably zieg included
obsidian helm
If you include AE you would have to gate it towards the endgame
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i'd need to think of a bullshit way to incorporate it into progression
obsidian helm
To give room to the bookwyrms until it reach a critical point
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Elemancy and ATAG?
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gating is easy enough to do because you cant do anything with ae2 unless you get the inscriber presses
plus its a skyblock so you dont even have a method to obtain certus by default
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is this necessary?
weak basin
back with the first Arcane Isles, Bailey took a hard stance against even Create lol
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back with the first Arcane Isles, Bailey took a hard stance against even Create ...
im adding it but gonna try disable any and all actual machines
hazy bay
back with the first Arcane Isles, Bailey took a hard stance against even Create ...
can see why, ars and create does clash with each other in farm alot :p
weak basin
I did end up adding it to my single player instance and made some imbuement chamber recipes to get some of the Create materials
like the colored rocks
azurite and whatnot
fresh linden
the biggest issue i envision is how conjure terrain makes tuff
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Flavors n Delights?
fresh linden
and tuff can be crushed into iron, copper, gold, and zinc
weak basin
flavors and delights yes
fleet remnant
and tuff can be crushed into iron, copper, gold, and zinc
read the google doc
weak basin
the tuff output is... not super fantastic though
fresh linden
it is quite good when put in a proper setup
especially when you consider transmutation turrets
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though i still hvnt implemented enough uses for the metals
weak basin
if scaled up to hell and back
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affinity?
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is this necessary? does kubejs not interface without this?
fresh linden
so much so that my vanilla crafters couldnt keep up
more so my disabling circuitry for lag reduction
weak basin
yeah that'd be scaled up. Anything you build I will not be considering for balance
fresh linden
sometimes itd just leave it on disabled
16 tuff/4gt is not crazy
thats like 3 aoes
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oi focus
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is this necessary? does kubejs not interface without this?
no idea what that even does
kubejs can make recipes
weak basin
it adds some specific methods for Ars methods
fleet remnant
fuck no amirite?
weak basin
just adds some syntax, basically
fresh linden
that page seems to be purely for ars recipes
i mean, could be helpful but i doubt its necessary
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it's so annoying
fresh linden
i dont know why we need artifacts when we dont really have any pve content except wilden
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just adds some syntax, basically
translate?
fresh linden
i would just say skip that one
its a copy paste job either way
it doesnt really look easier or harder
it just exists as an alternative for whatever reason
weak basin
like there's a specific kubejs method for an imbuement chamber recipe rather than needing to make a generic recipe and then specify the imbuement chamber inside it
bleak girder
translate?
Basically, shorthand for making ars recipies more easily.
fleet remnant
ok so big one. add or not add
bleak girder
It's an ars skyblock, yes?
fresh linden
my argument against it is that youre just gonna copy, paste, and modify your previously made recipes anyways
fresh linden
ok so big one. add or not add
jarva did offer to make custom structures
caelum also changes some crush recipes
fresh linden
id assume he would make a custom mod
weak basin
Jarva was saying a custom mod would most likely be needed
just in general for the extra stuff we want to do
fresh linden
most well-made packs nowadays have a core mod of sorts to add custom stuff and modify stuff in other mods
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i'll add it for the biomes, but i'll need to think abt how to gate shit
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a conjure nether ritual would be quite funny i think
fleet remnant
It's an ars skyblock, yes?
the issue is Caelum by itself is a complete skyblock experience
weak basin
that was the core mod for the first one and added a lot of the changes... though the custom recipes were mostly done via kubejs
weak basin
would be cool to have other dimension conjure islands
bleak girder
Honestly seems good for a skyblock. And yes to Ultimine.
Maybe megatorches or something similar?
fresh linden
functional storage because thats the best drawer mod fight me
fresh linden
sophisticated storage's drawers are not it
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i'll hv both FS and SS
weak basin
I like having both of them
hazy bay
just remove SS drawer, problem solve :D
fresh linden
i think youre forgetting quite a few ars addons
weak basin
Soph storage fits a lot of my needs, but Functional Storage does have some extra spice
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im using them on Evo
bleak girder
creo and technica very notably
Oh missed that. Yeah, Technica would be good to add.
fresh linden
nah nvm just elemancy
technica is in
id actually hope that we dont need polymorph or polymorphia
like ideally polymorph is a pack dev thing
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Elemancy and ATAG?
yall didnt reply
fresh linden
like ideally polymorph is a pack dev thing
to find recipe conflicts and fix them
ah
personally id say no to both
i thought that was you talking about gating ae2 lol
bleak girder
Elemancy is fine? I'm not a giant fan but it's less absurd than ATAG.
fresh linden
nothing against lyrellion but we really dont need powerscaling when our only real boss is the chimera
who i should remind you is a joke on skyblock
bleak girder
Wither is honestly a bigger deal.
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as for atag i just feel very weirded out when a pack that isnt made by atm has atmium
and again we dont need that power scaling
bleak girder
But yeah, I think the pack should be balanced around ars primarily, and as a skyblock, primarily focused on tech, not combat.
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idk what the diffs r, this is where u guys come in
bleak girder
Automation I meant.
bleak girder
Sodium and LambDynamic lights is good.
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iris works with both but honestly id just leave that to the player to add
we dont need default shaders
i always remove all the shaders and resource packs that packs come with
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Sodium and LambDynamic lights is good.
so these?
fresh linden
yeah those are good
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fresh linden
lambdynamiclights is what powers /ars-light nowadays anyways
i hate carryon, i prefer stuff like bag of yurting or cardboard boxes
stop overriding my shift clicks!
bleak girder
stop overriding my shift clicks!
Carryon but bound to a different key?
fresh linden
yes i know you can rebind it but its an extra key on my keyboard for what
bag of yurting is also more flexible in that it can move a volume
not just 1x1x1
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fresh linden
just add both theres no reason not to
weak basin
Bailey gets annoyed every time I put carry on in a pack lol
bleak girder
Fair. For me Carryon's biggest help is villager rangling.
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?
fresh linden
ok so i see a lot of big packs add that
but i have no idea what it does
and its very suspicious to me
because its closed source???
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(this is a joke)
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?
fresh linden
i remember i used to use randompatches for connection issues in like 1.12
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is this what lets me edit configs in-game?
bleak girder
Yeah, that's a good one to add.
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?
bleak girder
I'll second that, EMI is very solid.
fresh linden
i still have no idea why that mod is a thing
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emi+tmrv supremacy
what's the 2nd one
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i still have no idea why that mod is a thing
yeah, but i keep seeing it
fresh linden
normally id be against it because its very likely to break vanilla farms that use portals
but since we have ars i dont care
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BAHAHAHAHAHA
fresh linden
anything id use vanilla portals for, warp portals would be better for
except overworld gold farms i guess
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everyone point and laugh at the shit mod
fresh linden
those dont rely on portal teleportation anyways
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?
fresh linden
that ported?
i dont think it really does anything for a skyblock pack anyways
so id just say no
bleak girder
i dont think it really does anything for a skyblock pack anyways
Reach around block placing. And a bunch of little things.\
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is there an easy compiled stat viewer besides this?
fresh linden
dont think so, that mods fine
bleak girder
is there an easy compiled stat viewer besides this?
Honestly, "we don't need to see stats"
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i dont think it really does anything for a skyblock pack anyways
i like the rotation lock
fresh linden
personally i just use tweakerge
i do not play minecraft without tweakeroo (tweakerge on neo/forge), minihud (bocchud on neo/forge) and litematica (forgematica on neo/forge)
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ok hot take. this is actual garbage
fresh linden
i dont mind its existence but i end up throwing my stuff on the ground anyways
because pressing Q is easier than moving my mouse to the slot and back
oh yeah btw 20 glyph limit pls
thats the defacto standard for ars packs these days lol
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ok hot take. this is actual garbage
i prefer the trash feature FTB adds
fresh linden
the patreon/test server has been on 20 for a long while too
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bleak girder
Both good, I think.
fresh linden
genuinely i dont know what youd need torchmaster for
sanctuary exists
and its a skyblock
bleak girder
Oh true.
fresh linden
trash cans are good though yes
it also solves my biggest issue with create
why the hell does create not have a way to dispose of items without dropping it as an entity
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fresh linden
well it does, in the form of crushing wheels, but thats stupid and you know it is
bleak girder
Just use KubeJS.
bleak girder
trash cans are good though yes
We do have void upgrades in Sophisticated and Functional Drawers, at least.
fresh linden
yeah
trash cans also have stuff for fluids and energy though
not sure we have energy here
bleak girder
Don't think so?
fresh linden
oh yeah if we end up doing ae2 just remove all the energy costs
bleak girder
Oh. Amendments would be nice for decor
fleet remnant
fresh linden
well actually ars energistique exists but eh
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Oh. Amendments would be nice for decor
that's the Supplementaries addon?
fresh linden
you can add it but id remove it in favour of bocchud
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fresh linden
no opinion, i dont use magnets
bleak girder
that's the Supplementaries addon?
Small vanilla tweaks, yeah.
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fresh linden
sure why not
bleak girder
Observable or Spark are probably ideal.
fresh linden
both
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fresh linden
sure
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fresh linden
i wouldnt mind easyvillagers either but i know that conflicts with ars' jar trading
fresh linden
sure? not sure how much would be accessible though
bleak girder
Happy Ghast is a neat building tool, everything else is fine to have.
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fresh linden
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unless i should instead of this?
either is fine i dont really have any opinion
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https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/cobblemon ? /j
"why isnt it doing anything with my drygmies?"
fresh linden
im likely to turn off reacharound placement either way
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oh how bad would making ponders be?
bleak girder
sure? not sure how much would be accessible though
Happy Ghasts through barter, pale oak through wandering trader (and any other method added for getting weird saplings), wildflowers and leaf litter are tricky.
fleet remnant
i'll add it now and complain to u guys later
fresh linden
honestly doesnt sound that useful
bleak girder
And honestly, Happy Gast for working on the underside of the island sounds perfect.
bleak girder
Oh right, and it's not too hard to access.
fresh linden
depends on gating but yeah
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musique?
fresh linden
yep
computercraft would help with controle but im not sure thats worth adding considering pack theme
bleak girder
For Create addons, Central Kitchen?
fresh linden
i think mart plans to remove all the create machines
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computercraft would help with controle but im not sure thats worth adding consid...
if u can find a resource pack for it
bleak girder
Or is that a "build a spell, stupid" moment.
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or no resource pack and it's an inside-joke
fresh linden
theres no way youre going to be able to make computers make magical
fleet remnant
what's Astrologique?
fresh linden
that isnt that scifi
fleet remnant
Uh, do we want one of the building wands or gadgets?
no gadget, but yeah im thinkin add ConSticks
fresh linden
what's Astrologique?
@cloud spear can explain probably
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guys i want them
fresh linden
gadgets can have energy requirements disabled fwiw, but i dont like them so whatever
fresh linden
i have a feeling some hardcore ars players wouldnt like construction sticks either
limpid ruinBOT
@fresh linden
Result for search: Chaining
fresh linden
double sensitive is basically construction wand
bleak girder
guys i want the cute mobs
That's what non-skyblock is for.
Oh, Comforts? Less need for a sleepingbag, but still.
fleet remnant
hows bout i gate stick behind chain and place block glyph and a buncha manipulation essence
fresh linden
i dont really care either way
weak basin
I think having a building aid or two is a good idea regardless of the ones we go with
fresh linden
stick is convenient early game but it doesnt really hurt much to not have it
fleet remnant
That's what non-skyblock is for.
hey, more mobs, more drygmy rates
im adding cute mobs and yall will LIKE THEM
fresh linden
and we arent doing mekanism or anything so i wont be using a stick to build turbines
weak basin
yeah mek I think is the only one I'd be hardline against
fresh linden
i am sick of mekanism
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IM ADDING ANIMALS AND TALKING ABOUT CONSERVATION
fresh linden
and then sticking them in jar for old men to dance to
good job on your conservation efforts
weak basin
IM ADDING ANIMALS AND TALKING ABOUT CONSERVATION
if you add a mod that adds Cardinals I'll support it
fresh linden
i always get 0 lol
weak basin
love those little red birds
fresh linden
somehow 0% is still sweet
oh yeah mart you need to add a way for xacris to get sculk
this is very important
weak basin
oh yeah, very important
fleet remnant
if you add a mod that adds Cardinals I'll support it
do u hv one in mind?
cloud spear
what's Astrologique?
Right now? Addon for self buff spells and the Enchanter. Later on, I'll be adding Abjuration and Conjuration gear like with Elemental, except I'll be theming everything around astronomy and space.
It's super early WIP though and I haven't had much chance to dig into everything I want to add.
weak basin
I only remember loading up some modpack and walking through a forest and hearing and recognizing cardinal song, then finding them. I was delighted that they had the correct bird song
fleet remnant
what we think? ^ add?
weak basin
(cardinals nest in my yard)
fresh linden
what we think? ^ add?
if you want to ig
i dont think it hurts
at the very least i dont think itll break balance
iridium doesnt strike me as a power fantasy dev
cloud spear
Do consider the fact that the Enchanter exists
They're a trader mob
Their trades are hard coded right now until I figure out how to make them datapackable or KubeJSable.
fresh linden
you could look at how its done in modern versions
fleet remnant
Do consider the fact that the Enchanter exists
method to obtain?
fresh linden
i think they made villagers fully datapackable as of 26.1
cloud spear
method to obtain?
They're a mob just like the Drygmies and Starbies.
fresh linden
otherwise you could just use recipes
cloud spear
You need to throw them a blank parchment to get their shard.
fleet remnant
ok im taking a quick toilet break
cloud spear
otherwise you could just use recipes
This was my first thought when trying to make the trades datapackable but I wasn't really sure how that would look. I can mess around with that in preparation for this modpack.
fresh linden
basically just input stacks and output stacks
then pull a random list from all the recipes
could also have categories
cloud spear
I see..
fresh linden
could also use the villager xp system
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cloud spear
I'm on Easter break all week so I'll try to get my hands on Astrologique and make the trades recipes or something.
fresh linden
have those instead of categories
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@fresh linden WE NEED THIS ON 1.21.1
fresh linden
not happening i dont make mobs :D
entities and rendering are two things i do not touch
cloud spear
have those instead of categories
I don't think I want leveling for the Enchanter, tbh.
fresh linden
rendering is a big part of why i dont touch entities
fresh linden
I don't think I want leveling for the Enchanter, tbh.
categories work then
might be better to use meaningless indices for the category because those wouldnt make sense if someone wanted to replace all the trades
fleet remnant
if you add a mod that adds Cardinals I'll support it
Was it Naturalist?
Cause theyre stuck on 1.20
Im debating whether or not to do Alex's Mobs
cloud spear
Mart, for your consideration, here's what trades I remember from the Enchanter:
- 1 Source Gem —> 2 Essences
- 1 Additions' Codex + ~3 Blaze Rods —> Tier 2 Codex
- Tier 2 Codex + Nether Star —> Tier 3 Codex
- Sword or Shield or Bow + Source Gem Blocks —> Enchanter's Sword or Shield or Bow
- Iron Armor + Magebloom Fiber —> Arcanist Armor
fresh linden
personally never been a fan of alexs mods
fleet remnant
Same
cloud spear
Again, I'll be trying to make it datapackable so you can tinker with it for AI2 but I figure you'd want the heads up
fresh linden
i remember finding an item spawn exploit in ice & fire and alex's mobs for 1.12
fleet remnant
Um, r jar interactions datapackable?
cloud spear
Im debating whether or not to do Alex's Mobs
Please no
fresh linden
Um, r jar interactions datapackable?
no
fresh linden
code
cloud spear
Modpack core mod
fresh linden
i remember finding an item spawn exploit in ice & fire and alex's mobs for 1.12
once can be chalked up to mistake, two is incompetence imo
or malice, but i prefer to assume incompetence over malice
oh yeah there was also an nbt edit exploit in alex's caves
but only for their own items
so it wasnt a full item spawn
so yeah one major exploit in 3 mods
not a good look
fresh linden
oh yeah there was also an nbt edit exploit in alex's caves
im pretty sure this one still existed in 1.20
fresh linden
pigeon is good
i miss my pigeons
theyre not dead theyre just not nesting yet
well i hope theyre not dead
theyre not our pets anyways they just like our balcony
fleet remnant
well i hope theyre not dead
Singapore's only known breeding pair of peregrine falcons had babies
And they predate on pigeons
fresh linden
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https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/envelope
wait it's not showing up on the CF app
?
fresh linden
might have to show alpha files
before you ask no i do not know how to do that on the curseforge app
prismlauncher is the only launcher i use
fresh linden
wait how do i make it a void world?
i believe https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/skyblock-builder is the current standard
but im not sure if it integrates with ftb teams automatically
fresh linden
i mean its ftb
they have made a skyblock mod before
i wouldnt be surprised if its their core mod doing it
aha
thats their continuation
youll probably want https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/ftb-xmod-compat btw
fleet remnant
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/ftb-ez-crystals lol but why
This was useful on Skies 2 for early geore automation via JDT clicker
Otherwise you'd have to somehow set up a buncha breakers filtered to only break the fully grown clusters
fresh linden
fair enough
fleet remnant
im rn lookin thru Evolution's mod list...
u think this synergises with buncles?
Minecraft crashed without a crash report. The logs have been uploaded to gnomebot.dev:
latest.log | debug.log | KubeJS: client.log / startup.log | crash_assistant_app.log | startup_scripts.log | modlist.txt | CurseForge: skip launcher
Mod list changes after the latest successful launch:
[2;34mFirst launch with Crash Assistant mod. No diff to compare.[0m
someone has to teach me how to read this shit
i foresee it being a big recurring issue
ugh this is gonna be pain isnt it
fleet remnant
idk, i was able to open into the main menu after anyways
now im just tryna figure out the team bases mod
i dont fucking understand what im reading bro
LIKE WTF. IT JUMPS RIGHT INTO CODE
WHERE DOES CODE GO
fresh linden
btw anytime it tells you to make a datapack you can just put it in kubejs/data/...
fleet remnant
ok so im opening skies 2 and digging thru files for reference i spose
fresh linden
skies 2 uses ftb obsidian so their datapacks are just in a datapacks folder
but you dont need to do that cos kubejs
fleet remnant
what should i use to write said code btw?
hazy bay
your brain
fierce kindle
what should i use to write said code btw?
Visual Studio Code
fierce kindle
Turning out to be a pretty overwhelming project to properly jump into
Just take it one step at a time
cyan pecan
indeed
break it apart
tranquil dome
what should i use to write said code btw?
vim
dull pivot
vim
pico /sarcasm
IntelliJ IDEA byJetBrains for a full IDE (and in general other IntelliJ IDEs) and for quick little file edits, I like sublime /genuine
Oops, sorry for the ping, that was unintended
dull pivot
Or emacs 😈
viscid yew
notepad++