#Defense Spell
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Ok, I won’t…
And assuming he doesn't also have ars
bonus points if you surround it in skyweave
true
lol
yaay 1k message spend trying to kill an anoying brat!
Random question
Assuming they have no long range way of breaking blocks
What’s with all the -buncles?
Starbun
Orbital laser.
Doesn't it need los
Ok if he can just use it whenever uhhh
It will destroy anything preventing it, but yeah
basically one layer of skyweave
one layer of reinforced deepslate
Reinforced deep slate is a good idea nice
he can break both with a snap of his fingers
yup actually i forgor what version are u on again?
He has dimdoors so 1.20.1
Prob
Oh I foror
Can you blink the projectiles
/tpa, and /home will be on the server
leme check
We could avoid breakable blocks
Oh yeah that's fine
(They actually are and this is a real situation)
can we seal him under the void?
Breaks the bedrock
we talked about it
no wait
creative flight?
/fill ~ ~ ~ ~30 ~30 ~30 Minecraft: air?
Prob lets be real
no like a turret that would face there and tp him
bypasses that
Bro does have creative flight
oh yeah
And creative
Dw this setup actually avoids that I think
If we can tp the projectiles
He'd have to use like /kill @e which would be a lot of problems
He could make it only Ars projectiles
./kill @e[type=blah blah]
Alr
Then we just need enough projectiles
That it shoots so fast
He can't stop it
Lmao
With multi layered spells
may i ask one question?
Of course
how did it happend that this guy can use commands and noone else can?
Uhh Admin Rat
can you just bully him so he stops cheating?
the why do you need to kill an admin?
For fun I think
1: Because he’s definitely gonna mess with me.
Spite really
2: I must slay the Rat.
3: Rat is my fren, rat must be slayed.
shulk ban?
very simple
Why are there just nothingness
thats skyweave
Huh
Skyweave is actually so cool
yup
Do you have dimdoors
On that pack
what's dimdoors?
Pocket dimensions
Dimensional doors
:o
so uh
Can you get it tho?
They can prob break it
isn't what you're trying to do bannable too?
hmmm
They get points for creativity and it's allowed
(guessing)
lol
Who cares if I become an Archmage just to trap a Godly Rat beyond comprehension in a silly box
you should rename the thread to "trying to trap an admin for fun" not to confuse people
I mean it started as defense
Then we decided that’s impossible
However trapping someone is still defense
And its a spell
So 🤷♂️
arguable
Is it using magical means provided through the mod to achieve its goal?
tru but
no spells are just 70% of ars
well ok
its a bit harder to escape this
Or just warp away?
Like, the easiest way to escape death is to literally escape.
And it's much safer to be in a bunker 10k away than just some 30 blocks below the ground
Can he use commands other than /tp?
Can't he just death ray the box?
Damn. Beat me to it again
If he's in touch range he'll be able to break the turret
Or projectile
Summary
You guys need to build the source generator and turrets in a force loaded chunk.
The first turret casts [homing]
(
)×4
The second turret cast 




Both are connected to the same chest containing the warps scroll to the chamber.
The main this we need to check for this is what blocks can he break
If he can't break Obsidian and up this makes our lives easier
I mean, he can break bedrock
Obsidian is a given
Also, my design really doesn't need a chamber
As long as the Rat doesn't know where the actual machine is, he can't stop it
And the 'trap area' can just be any open or closed space
Ah
Ye
Bedrock is special tho
In order to break it you have to get an integer overflow and reset it back to -1
Oh
Lol
Still, I don't know if his ability can break obsidian or if he breaks it with his fists
So cover it in fragments of reality from the dimensional door mod, got it lol.
That number would basically crash the game
Yet, it doesn't matter if there is no pain box
Dunno what that is.
But could as well just be ubdergound
Darkness
?
You can also set the spell color to be near invisable
yeah i did this on accident
and was wondering why i couldn't use spells
Ah
🥀
If its under ground it's in darkness
Brb
I think you're still not getting it
yeah so the setup i have in mind
The machine and the box can be thousands of blocks apart
i used rewind as well
blink forces him back in
but it isn't the way you keep him in one place
Doesn't matter if he can't see the projectiles, cuz he can't follow them to their source
Tru
we just need a lot of chunk loaders
Nah
and like 4 ish ars portals
assuming we want this to be out of render distance
we can spam the spells faster if they all link to the same portal
and shoot projectiles through
Guess they'd be more efficient than using 

we could have 5 turrets shooting through 1 portal
5x the speed we would have otherwise
The machine can fit in 1 chunk
can the projectiles go that far
without deloading?
@dusk kraken yo whats his render distance
we need more.
Why would I know this…
I wish I could tell you
doesn't it need to be in a loaded chunk?
The machine yes. But you can use any chunk loader for that
The box will be loaded by him as soon as he is trapped
They don't need to travel
Don’t worry about loading it, I’ll figure that out.
Just be warped in the middle of the box
wits only a bit
Kinda redundant but rewind will actually raise you a few pixels if you spam
oh lemme check
i was only doing it as fast as like
holding the button down
and it locked me in place
let me like
SPAM spam it
so this spell here is funny cause
it just locks them in place for like 15 seconds
better than snare cause they can't even use like ender pearls or somethin
but i did realize a problem
if we spammed rewind
it'd rewind him out of the area
if he used tp
rewind spam my beloved
im guessing someone already suggested a phylactery to survive this
yeah so
apparently it does 5 million damage per hit
so the options basically are
"don't be in the area to begin with"
...it does HOW MUCH??????
or "undying into reactive piece to LEAVE"
alternatively we've come to the conclusion "this is stupid" and its devolved into finding various ways to trap people
what about setting up a spell turret or something to just spam totems into your offhand
blink prison is also the alternative
well, in this scenario there is only one option
im not a redstone expert so i coulld probably make that look prettier
i just wanted to see if it works
and it sure does
Absolutely Safe Capsule: 



yeah
just spam that and you are Absolutley Safe
it can blast though obsidian?
makes sense
also im legit terrified
to step into the blink chamber
cause we specifically designed it to be inescapable even in creative
with tp commands
do it, the sacrifice of oneself in the pursuit of knowledge is the highest form of tribute to the gods
this is barebones so i can prob get out
alright
im in
lets see here
alrigh
i escaped by just spamming self blink
so we need walls
so they shoudn't have access to ars...
Absolutely. I concur.
Proceed as if they do, however they are extremely inexperienced.
Just add a scry crystal to enable/dissable the machine
Try instead with
and a scroll
Should make it inescapable
self burst mageblock
yeah
i was using this
Not if the projectiles are blinked in
i don't think it works
but i can try
I mean cuz you can't place blocks where the player at
And you just warp the player and projectiles to the same point
Do the turrets use
or :homing:?
projectile
i can try homing though
Don't forget sensitive
that eventually it has a hard time
keeping the effects on me
so the blinks eventually run out
ok
so
adding 1 more blink
to the delay sequence
made it unbreakable
who would've thought
K
And the projectiles are being blinked in?
from what i tried i couldn't get that to work
we CAN do ars portals but those are still breakable in a way
But they're one way
So not any more breakable than the turrets
ok
i think i got a way to break the mageblocks too
ok these all cast dispell in a burst aoe to break mage blocks
alr
now to find a way out
oh damn conjure terrain is in elemental?
yo
why can a unmodified break spell
destroy reinforced deepslate
but not obsidian
deepslate is interesting
you cant break it with normal tools techically
but for some reason you can spend 82 seconds to break it with your fist
ok yeah
the breaks added a lot
alr so
full spam of delay blinks/burrows CAN get you out
but the mana cost would be too much for a casual ars user
correct
im looking through rn
assuming we space out the turrets far enough away to where
a full range burst aoe redstone signal or break wouldn't break the system
cause that's the way im getting out of it for testing purposes
twai
wait
summon decoy
yeah
that works.
and its
very simple too
lags the server but can get them out of it cause the spells won't actually hit them
ok so we have to make this entirely suspended in air
and make all the breaks massive aoes
to stop any sort of block creation for them to stand on
waitttt
thats cool
filter player works on decoys
i realized this would cause more problems
so ill try to find a way around this
nevermind this only works in LITERAL creative mode
the clones themselves are still a problem but we don't need to worry about literally hundreds of them
ok
so a max height windshear will oneshot clones
however this differs from the high in the sky thing thing since this includes water
nevermind if he just uses evaporate
guh
then we also have to think about animate block spam
btw were you allowed to advertise
you should post it in #advertisements frfr
25 hours. Less than 25 hours and this has over 1300 messages
Lol
Use warp portals to tp the projectiles
That could also make animated blocks and decoys less useful
Yup, this is quite the conundrum.
And then one with a rapid fire burst wind shear
As long as we're in the air it'll oneshot
That should be good to fix the other problems
what if instead of dodging the projectile we gaslight the opponent with
?
Actually, not a bad idea
so something like 



when you see the devil comming?
Well wed prob still die
If invis was an option we prob woulda thought of it
It's like an orbital cannon so prob
And he said the range was insane
then add more amplifys
Burst sens blink
for tping everywhere and nowhere at the same time?
Wait do we have prop self
i think it's omega
A lot of mods just add ars omega stuff
I don't have it installed but I read ars omega on some of the spells origin mod
true
Elemental adds arc homing and projectile
Apparently he has prop underfoot which should be omega
Well burst sens prop self blink
with self or projectile?
No you actually teleport forward as intended
Saves me the trouble cool
But anyways I got a check how far blink makes you go
I checked
Max amps goes 33 blocks
What about no amps?
Well that would've been a smart thing to test
Unfortunately I'm a goober
Prob 10 blocks I think
I think this is finally enough
I can't test it cause I'm at work
I can check
Ars portal linked to 1 spot
Where the player stands
In the air
4 different turrets shooting blink delay blink delay etc
4 shooting burst aoe sens breaks
Then a few more shooting burst aoe wind shear
The guy can't die
So the wind shear will only kill the decoys are animated blocks
Oh I thought that was for escaping
No that's for like
Making it so they can't just
Break or block the projectiles
Ah
The break spells are for making sure the clones don't have ground to stand on to make wind shear stronger
And also stopping like a self create water freeze
How are we going to power this?
A single full blink delay will cost about 1200 with homing
Shouldn't need homing just projectile
But you raise a fair point
Well 1010 In that case
We'll think about that later...
Anyway the scry crystal is for breaking out yourself
I didn't go back far enough
Fair
But what's the spell on the scrying? A
?
Yeah that's what I was using
Ic
Btw
I read on there
Can you turn random blocks into redstone signal makers
With that spell
"Augment with Sensitive to set the target block as a power source for itself and surrounding blocks"
Well yes but actually no
will hard power any block which basically means that instead of soft power (the signal only comes from a single face) hard power counts the entire block as a power source
So does it work like a redstone block
Basically
Hard powering is base game
No
Awww






[propogate self]
?
for what purpose? you can just use it without the prop
yes but you give your opponent a false hope tat you're somewhere there
1500 msgs almost lol
The best way against an immortal person is to strip their inventory and throw them into the void
no no not immortal he's [insert title card]
lol
What if you exchange places with him as the spell triggers so they beam themselves
Prob doesn't work
We thought about it thoufh
All his stuff comes from an origin
But why play aggressively with someone when you let them custom their character without customising your ars power and damage levels
They do have an origin but it just buffs ars stuff
Does water protect you
he can break water
Let me just go through the list of what we're dealing with here
Hes programmed not to die
He can break bedrock in some way
Access to creative flight
Tp command
world edit
The death laser does 5 million damage per tick
Is instant
And breaks through blocks
While also having a minimal understanding of ars
So just assume he can do anything with ars
Also we're limited to relatively weaker add-ons
Elemental and not enough glyphs I think
What if you just ghost them leave their undying self forever alone lol
Pretty sure it's a bigger ish server
Like 10 or so people id guess
We also technically have other mods but the main goal was to find a way using ars
they aren't really agressive but we must beat them
If we had add-ons like extended glyphs and Adams ars we could do this pretty easily
Yeah
Just need nearest player aoe 3 crafting table loop
we can get them but the risk is that other people would start to use ars
Which means not an option
So only they got to pick all the settings while your limited to a few ars choices
Correct
Not my situation personally but that seems to be it
We do have a way to trap him though
Even if they have tp command?
we probably can but it doesn't look like it is possible
Yeah I designed it around trapping tps
Basically blink delay blink delay etc
With 4 turrets rapid firing at a spot
That tps to the same spot
Will just rapidly tp back there
And it's not contingent on them staying there cause the delays
Ars portals to the spot to make the turrets untrackable and unbreakable with world edit
If we removed ars that's all we need but trapping assuming they had all of ars is the problem
Don’t forget there’s a Insanity power 🙂
Nah you're messing with me
What
That gives you text on your screen
Saying fear me
Then summons creeper sfx randomly
That's
WAIT the problem with 4 rapid fire turret is that it's breakble right?
A thing ig
Ah, los requirement?
Yeah I don't get the challenge
Trying to circumvent 18 layers of stupid
what if we make 2 or even 4 rooms instead of one?
could that work?
or even tp them to another dimesnion?
what how?
It's just stopping them from stopping the projectiles now
Does the servers handle the load of all this
Prob?
My tests were unoptimized and
Didn't lag too hard
And my computer is pretty bad
I mean the setup is unlikely to actually be used
Its more of a theoretical thing
how do ars portals fix the issue?
1 way portals that can tp the projectiles
We can have them shot from hundreds of chunks away
I'm a chunk loaded area
What if you tossed in a turret shooting not block destroying explosion so they can't see can't move
Oh no, it’s likely,
The An Actual Stupid guy joined the server
Just constant explosions whiting out their display
I’m starting a group of people to defeat the rat
Uhhh
/fill air
We need it as far away from them as possible
So they don't just nuke the entire surrounding area
They could just do a ./fill as large as possible…
Good luck
Yeah
Thats why were putting it like 1000 chunks away
Oh gg then
No ars?
Yeah so nothing really changes
But at least I don't have to pretend spectator mode doesn't exist
But yeah
@dusk kraken aside from finding some way to actually power this with source
This should work
Goooooooooood instance of the fourth dimension
I know I read your Bio
lol
Idk
I feel like a lot of it is just catching people up
Because yeah
ic
wait that means the 4 room idea can work if he can't /fill
1.20.1
Only Ars Elemental and Too Many Glyphs
ok
life link the guy, if hes immortal itl make you immortal
right?
also, may we ask why their so overpowered
it only applies the healing
wait no i cant read
new york rat
this
and damage dealt is split half and half
still 2.5 mil dmage
and they are immortal
like any new york rat
why is this rat so overpoweredd
never met a new york rat
(ive never been to new york)
same
so ima just believe everything random people on the internet say
im imagining remy on steroids
Won't work cuz of summoning sickness
im too broke to fly all the way to new york 😭
im 14 so i am too
understandable
im just broke as shit
anyway
is there any inf mana glitches in the version?
lol
rn?
ye
means u made the account at 11
EXCUSE ME 🤓 THAT IS AGAINST THE DISCORD POLICIES!!!!
well actually it isnt because im not below 13 anymore 🤓
lol
its like committing murder
i dont think that anybody has actually cared about the ToS of discord
they certainly have
i had my first acount at like 11 too
i read that shit once, i remember none of it
but yeah many people are making accounts underage
i feel like being annoying
valid
do you know what rogueblade is on roblok
nope
i do know steal a brainrot tho
also, were closer to 2050 then 2000
lol
sigh
me when
sigh
The portal is where the turrets are, which is tens or hundreds of chunks away from the 'chamber'
can you make horizontal portals with stable warp scrolls
also i dont rlly think itd work
because stable warp scrolls take like 2s to create
and if the damage is 5m a TICK
thats gonna stack up real quick
Damn you dense
yea a normal one would work
No scroll set up on the spot
i know
unless diff dimension
Sry
what
You already have the scroll to the 'chamber'
HOW DARE YOU
You just 
or 

[filter]
them with the scroll in your off-hand
Goated, love that game.
but opening it theres a delay no?
because the portal takes a sec to appear
blink instantly tps it
oh
tothe place where ur warpscroll is bound
I quit because getting Juggernaut is impossible.
(if thhe scroll is in the offhand)
i thought we were still on teleporting the explosion away
i can help you get it
my mistake 😅
oh wait
That’s what the last person said, it’s impossible.
i just realized its actually kinda easy
na i got it
Without Farmer it’s impossible bro
crusher skills
I have crusher maxed out
ive been stuck grinding on a friends roblox account all fucking dayyy
I did that like 15 runs ago
"please get me this item in grow a garden"
wait hear me out
thingy
that gets 2 billion defense
under conditions
What?
boneblossom or smth 💀
I literally set my strength and attack to the NEGATIVES to do it.
i can help trust
The Strat is having a bard on your team, a pure attack to carry, and me to soak all the damage
Then preferably a healer
who needs that when necromancer can get 1 kill
Bards can temp increase your def by 30%
True necromancer would work
But what about the boss?
Fair enough
Necromancer, bard, me, and a healer
Could remove the healer from that equation ngl
or just 1 or 2 people
-# I’m biased I main healer.
-# i main wizard
-# My good fellow, Healer healer, or Guardian Angel?
-# wizard i big dum
Xd we’re so off topic rn
no this is on topic trust
No it’s not
That’s not how it works
thats like saying irons isnt related to ars because its a different mod
Bro really is a GNAT
lol
oh do you know what terra is
I feel like I’ve played it
Can we rerail this train
i mean
i think we honestly finished all we COULD do a while ago
fair enough
no
...
all in 2 days btw
1800 messages in 2 days
that's a message every 2 minutes
consistently
For 48 hours straight
it's more like trapping a guy that can destroy blocks from like 50 blocks can fly and can't die also dealing 5 mil damage instantly
yea
More like 15 people talking, across timezones, while most have missed some information due to sleep and work and others have to repeat or correct
its been an adventure
everyone we must stop that- guy
I’m already planning on slight corrupting his invincibility power to make him vincible to a custom damage type that only he can take damage from which happens when someone hits him while holding a brick. Besides I can’t change origin names like that, it’s barely possible to corrupt the power, plus it’d be way too obvious.
Lol
It's alright
I must throw a brick at the Average New York Rat!
lol
nah we don't need to cheat like that
Not cheating, I think I have the owners support.
Just a little chezzing.
🧀
This of course relys on the fact that the person who uses the Rat and is also the one that checks origins before they are added doesn’t see the thing I’m implanting.
😮
Thank you. I’ll be using that lol.
yep
now add chaining
yes
to be fair
reinforced deepslate
is some weird stuff
i don't really understand it
but unmodified break spells work on it
couldn't tell you why
i can
actuall i did some 400 messages up
not here
but anyways
basically its hardness is 55
however deepslate is coded so you cant break it with any tool
exept for your fist
which is under dimond and therefore you dont need an amp
yes
could this possibly ever work on bedrock?
no
normally the spell only allows for pulling blocks of hardness 0 or higher.
bedrock has a hardness of -1
which sounds like a negligable amount
but there is no hardness of -1 thats integer overflow
Doesn't most java integer include negative and positive
I thought only C types had like unsigned int
yes but there is also another type
i forgor
but in any case it has a hardness of -1
damn
so if i made bedrock like hardness 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
it could work
well yes but actually no
doing some reasearch
actually
a hardness of -1 makes it so that the time to break it starts at 0 and it keeps going down to negitive integers
it wouldnt do any dmg anyways
and leap wouldnt be able to affect it
ah
@dusk kraken Is your offer to join the server still available?
i would absolutely join as well
yea
The offer is possible.
With a few issues.
I leaked some stuff that can't get out on the server.
Like the exact specs of the origins
otherwise you all can join me and murder the rat!
lol
the season with ars has yet to be started
as the modpack is only semi-finalized
and the origins arent all done
but if you want a invite i can dm you one
i mean if the owners want a larger following you can post it in #advertisements
would be nice to have another server to refer to
yea
i have the all clear to advertise though
just dont want to bait people in
and the letter "h" is currently banned
so its a bit hectic
the letter h is banned
yes
like you say a word with h and you get banned
Every week we spin a wheel and add a random letter to the automod.
message gets deleted
no warn or anything
lol
very spesific but actually funny
ok
is that a ok to the ill slide, or a yes please slide? (im dumb rn)
ah
wait is coding origins hard (i might bother getting into it at a point)
I can teach you.
no i wanna be stupid and manage to accidentally crash the game while trying to rip [insert passive here]
Learning coding in general isnt hard
Learning to mod is a bit harder
True
I’ll at least give you something so you know what exists.
it isnt (depending on what youve done with code)
ive made a dollar store variant of obsidian railgun around the first time i got blockshaping
i could also help is you want
does that count as code
yeh
no, it dosnt
oh th3en i have no experience 🔥
i meant like
ive done a bit of code.org in school but i didnt really learn anything i havent learned from ars
are we talking origins or?
thats kinda what i mean
i have no experience coding with origins
lev sent me a couple links
thats too complex for monkey brain
lol
i see more than 2 lines and im instantly scaread
Oh a fellow origins coder I see!
I’m starting an actual stoppid off with The Origin Creator(cause he’s dumb) and provided a link to the origins documentation.
I got bro handled.
-# By dumb I’m referring to his newness to coding especially origins.
-# This is so off topic at this point, not even the right mod.
i just use vscode and pray
its litterally "please work i beg" and "FUCK"
how i started
how i will continue
You know theres addons for that right....
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use those
hey ):<
i meannnnn
ur tryna defeat an origins guy
is that a reverse >:(
you're evil for that
i didnt know it was evil
I'm casting a curse on your bloodline
lol
Nah brute force is easier
Just kill the person shooting the beam
See we tried that it didn't work
its instant
and does 5 million damage
