#Simulmancy
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Fuck yeah
combine this with a villager phylactery
turn yourself into a human corruption battery
become the plaguebringer
Add Ars Additions, Ars Delight and Evilcraft and you'll have infinite mana as well lol
Simul from simil: likewise
Simulmancy is the art of creating copies of one self to further expand one's magical firepower
We use
to create dummies, which will recast any spell their creator casts on themselves, while wearing the
.
.
Basic example:
- Create some dummies with


- Have them all explode by casting


Ah I see, thank you
how are you putting randomize on delay
#announcements message
YAY
so what exactly does delay + randomize do
Selects a random moment between now and when the regular delay would trigger
#1019639765093589153 is useful as hell ngl
I'm trying to recreate these really cool and awesome spells in a modpack I'm playing right now in singleplayer. However some glyphs are disabled like Burst and Wall, are there any combinations that doesn't use those 2?
Kinda? I mean there's 









not having wall is rough. You could try to use linger to similar effect
Sorta like the one above yeah?
I'll keep note of these

the one above has some weird inclusions and ineffeciencies i'm not a big fan of
I just grabbed the first one I saw that didn't have
or
.
Need summoner focus for all these yeah
nope
Ah
basic propagator spells dont need a summoners focus
summoners focus is for spells you want to propagate using 
also no
Unfortunate
not really
it serves a different purpose

Well, welcome! I'm glad my little school of magic piqued your interest :)
I've gone through like
3 hours worth of reading of the threads here in this spell crafting channel
I fell in love

i had a similar experience
After I'm gone with my current modpack
M87, this is a cesspool filled with LEGALIZE NUCLEAR BOMBS typa nonsense. It's my favorite place on the internet.
I wanna do another one with all the ars nouveau stuff
i've been enjoying atm10 a lot as an ars pack
I love nuclear explosions 
doing a challenge run with as many restrictions as I can reasonably apply
I'm playing Rougelike Adventures and Dungeons 2 rn
i'm still learning new things about ars at a breakneck pace
i'm also kind of dumb. so.
I'm playing with a multi-player group also a mage
my breakneck pace is like your average mage's brisk walking speed
But I have my own singleplayer world to test studd
honestly, enjoy your current pack's main offerings
Tbh im just using Ars to make a no-automation run of MI less torturous.
learn everything you can to the fullest
Cus God there's so much Ars nouveau stuff to learn compared to every other mod in this modpack

and when you're done, you have a whole new plate full of goodies to dig into
Yeyeye I'm playing with some basic ars stuff rn
Gonna play one with every Ars add-on when I finish this

i'd advise against that LOL
not all the ars addons are good
i think for 1.21 the vast majority are
but older versions have some landmines
oh wait RAD2 is 1.16.5
Yeah
burst and wall aren't disabled
Alot of stuff missing here
they arent there
@vale drift
1.16.5 has a very old version of Ars Nouveau. Many people would argue that the mod today is completely different to the mod back then.
In 1.16.5 the Glyph Press is used instead of the Scribe's Table to create glyphs. Use JEI to check the Glyph recipes.
Ars Instrumentum is not available in 1.16.5. The numeric mana functionality originated in Ars Enderstorage, which unfortunately requires the Enderstorage mod which may not be so easy to add to your modpack.
Containment Jars don't exist in this version, so you'll need to contain mobs in a different way. If you have Create then their Seats work well.
1.16.5 has some glyphs that aren't in modern versions and there are plenty of glyphs that aren't available in 1.16.5, you'll need to check which glyphs you have available in order to try specific spells.
Glyphs are stored within the book in 1.16.5, not on the player themselves. If you lose your book, you lose all your glyphs. It's recommended to make a backup of your glyphs by scribing your glyphs into a novice spellbook.
Please raise an issue with @upper rivet
Yeah I had to figure all these out myself
you poor thing
I was very confused when I watched like s
A 90 minutes modern Ars Nouveau guide
Then when I got back on RAD2
even when i was playing 1.18.2 3 years ago it was considered old then
I couldn't make glyphs on the scribes table
I'm having alot of fun with my friends in this modpack regardless though
I'm just
So damn weak
Compared to the others
old versions are hard to play for me
because I enjoy community theorycrafting as you can tell
and old versions just arent maintained, developed
During my readings
i'm predisposed to yapping
1.21 is waiting for you with open arms, mage
Mira's creation? Yeah, that one's delightful.
So true
I can't wait to get my dirty hands on Wall and Burst after I'm done with RAD2
And Nullify
mira is consistently one of my favourite mages around here
Burst is so much fun.
but zieg and qther also blow my mind regularly
Cus I noticed all the big funny spells use either/both of wall and burst
Honestly,
is one of my favs
yeah i've entered a bit of a postmodern spellcrafting kick where i try not to use them
I dunno how to adapt cut into a damaging spell
I originally saw it and in RAD2 a few days ago
modern ars makes it easier with new interactions that don't rely as much on propagation multipliers
And was wondering if I can make slashes like Sukuna from JJK
in 1.16.5 i don't think you really can
it relies a lot on being a cheap source of damage that procs modern thread effects
Is there a status effect thing it can trigger?
I say I'm extremely weak compared to my friends in terms of power
But I do have a bit of a card I play
Some enchants can be applied onto Harm
With a Spartan weapon in my main hand and spell book in my off-hand
Some weapon enchantments can be applied and multiplied on Harm
FELLOW OFFHAND SPELLBOOK ENJOYER

A cheap harm spell that does like 8 dmg
Can be multiplied to do like
A thousand damage
Per cast
that's - huh.
Not having a shield is actively making me mega scared to fight dangerous stuff lmao
Maybe start a thread going into it
i dont remember old ars being able to scale numbers that hard
But this is like mega old Ars stufd
but its been a bit
archival :)
And it interacts with enchants from other mods
it's something novel
Mainly this part
Where do I make the thread
just in #1063650997135757393
I'll make it when I'm free and post some screenshots
It's not just enchantments
The Spartan weaponry+their material bonus
Are also applied to the harm spell
thats really interesting actually
For example silver weaponry gives 200% damage against undead
So holding a silver weapon while casting harm spell would make it do 16
i wonder if this is the same property that applies looting to spells if you have looting weapons in your main hand
I didn't know that looting also works
Didn't try that
Some enchants that can boost Harm spel
#general-and-help message
i didnt consider that other enchantments could also apply
other than looting

for backdash? (Knockback II)
this isn't a rabbit hole I intend on exploring LMAO
not yet
I'll try that when I'm back home
Unlocking more glyphs still gives more mana in 1.16 Ars right
I should work on that

Well new human, I think you may have a project to work on for your AAC (Associate Arcanist Certification)
I prefer to make mine from Archwood
It already took like a whole day worth of grinding to get like 6 enchants on my silver saber
whats the bottleneck, experience?
My Harm spell now deals a whole lotta damage
That and actually getting the enchanted books to put on the saber
1.16.5 has perfectly functional enderman grinders
if you remove XP as the bottleneck you can just churn out books
or sacrificial golden swords for the increased enchantability
and then strip the enchants off em
Problem with that is in RAD2 killing the wither and ender dragon turns the world into hard and master mode respectively
And in our group
ahh
We have like 15 total people playing
well you don't need to kill the dragon
I'm the main mage guy
yeah i'm just teasing
are there no waystone equivalents?
I don't know if 1.16.5 has crossdim warp portals





the problem is getting back
Do it again.
without dying or killing the dragon
Yeah
Ah
Well dying is fine
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Getting the stuff across the dimension is more the problem
yeah
XP vaults?
oh yeah true
do all the enchanting in the end
Example of
’s usage in more current versions: https://discord.com/channels/743298050222587978/1287559002523172956
Is there like a video of these I can't really see since I'm not home rn
Man this is painful for me
Im back home and I'm testing all the spell combos I've learned
I'm in a new singleplayer world creative mode
Like everything can't be done
For that one Orbit is a form
And for the all is dust I can't put propagate arc in the middle

@vale drift
1.16.5 has a very old version of Ars Nouveau. Many people would argue that the mod today is completely different to the mod back then.
In 1.16.5 the Glyph Press is used instead of the Scribe's Table to create glyphs. Use JEI to check the Glyph recipes.
Ars Instrumentum is not available in 1.16.5. The numeric mana functionality originated in Ars Enderstorage, which unfortunately requires the Enderstorage mod which may not be so easy to add to your modpack.
Containment Jars don't exist in this version, so you'll need to contain mobs in a different way. If you have Create then their Seats work well.
1.16.5 has some glyphs that aren't in modern versions and there are plenty of glyphs that aren't available in 1.16.5, you'll need to check which glyphs you have available in order to try specific spells.
Glyphs are stored within the book in 1.16.5, not on the player themselves. If you lose your book, you lose all your glyphs. It's recommended to make a backup of your glyphs by scribing your glyphs into a novice spellbook.
Please raise an issue with @upper rivet
This is me right now :

For that ender chest strat
I tried in singleplayer as well
Merely entering the end will make the world instantly go into hard mode
oh.
Gah whatever
Theres still some enchants I can work on right now to put on my saber
That can effect Harm spell
Cus right now this basic harm is all I can use
Is there any way to make a spell that can make harm proc alot and fast

Harm>delay>harm?

Yes that too but wouldn't that cost alot of mana if I shove like maximum amp
welcome to ars

Hmm...
Well I don't know what the other mods will do to your end dimension.
But surviving the end in hard mode should be pretty easy
the issue is it becomes hardmode for everyone
Oh
Shit
Oki
So maybe when most are offline?
Anyways
Old Ars may not be as powerful
But it should still have some good effects
Mainly 
I think most bosses should not be immune to it, so that should allow you to deal damage while protected from close range attacks
For ranged attacks I suggest the use of 



to block
And for damage, maybe
is still included in your version
If not have a look for the 
It is yeah
Max damage firework rockets still on the table

Ive completely forgotten how to make max damage fireworks
Haven't made these in so so long
Paper + 7 stars + gunpowder
if you have create, as many as your crafter
firework requires an offhand firework right
too bad i cant make it not launch in my hands by mistake lol
Nope 
Hotbar i believe
bit better, nice
... i wonder how that would work with maids
since they only have inventory
probably just offhand reactive would be best, hmm
Nope, the firework must be in the offhand for Crossbow stuff
this wasnt about crossbows tho?
i know homing spell propagates into summoned mobs if :necromancy:
Probably
They don't
Only dead ones
Well they don't have any delay like 
Yeah but I hate animated blocks and they make a mess
True
its a specific config setting
Oh ye I should make the thread
yes
absolutely
shits about to get real
hohoho
wait, does
have the same limitation as
? (you can only spawn one per spell effect?)
cus if so...
Just tried 

RECURSION MAGIC IS REAL!!!
It absofuckinglutely works
I already did
damn
Video is uploading
Watch Ars Nouveau - Animated Mania and millions of other Minecraft videos captured using Medal.
now cast self throngle
+444 summons in 1 tick!!!
also what a music taste
alright. time to cook
but actually this is insane
opening ars...
shame my laptop broke again lmao

Another time?
Come on
Don't getyourself carried away with those mods
wha
i need explain
My guess is that you've been playing with fire, aka NEG
no its just broken
weh
the fan died
Again?
yes
How?
no clue
my mind is blown rn...
fall actually
yes
about to create some utterly apocalyptic spells with this one
hehe
wait
wdym
im on a testing world and my spells are propegating to the animated blocks
🌀





Usually when playing with the
the rest of the spell props onto the conjured blocks or icicles
oh god ok im interested
But since this transforms the blocks into summons, this doesn't apply
does this mean you can just spam 







and obliterate any hardware ever
well yes
literally just cast this shit like 5 times and your pc should be grilled
But why use ice
server is grilled
that too
isnt it more efficient with blockshaping?
Oh true
we want some level of control lmao
The 27 times multiplier from icicles
Also, no delay needed
buffs to elemental[ars elemental] and water one gives you dolphins instead of horses
even better
HOLY COW MY GAME IS LAGGING FROM MY EXPERIMENTS
and then blockshaping exists with obsidian railgun
also i underestimated that thing holy shit 68 damage
according to my shitty math two casts would be roughly 220 THOUSAND blocklings
we exponential with it
three casts?
one. hundred. million.
you're welcome to test it out if you want ;D
ngl ive tried worse
probably why my laptop imploded
Oh sheet
Just saw the 
mhm
But you need the blockshaper to get 

offhand focus.
yes
sounds odd
Fractomancy. Recursion Magic. The forbidden arts.
Fast way to kill'em all: 

once you get past like 150k you can't really do anything to save yourself
i will figure something out
weird
time to add Cataclysmic Creations to my "FORBIDDEN ARTS: ONLY USE IN CASE OF EMERGENCY" book
wait it works with handheld?
Only elemental focci do this
welp
so more damage buffs right
#1019639765093589153 anyone?
idk what each elemental focci does tbh
Oh
tbh would solve my maid issue
looks fancy in inventory idfk
it deals damage!!!! lolol
it uhhhh
you equip the elemental foci to boost your stats. you equip block/summon to break the game
pretty sure they boost the damage/effects of spells of their school
yes probably
fire burns longer, ice freezes better, launch lauches higher
i should learn how to break my game with blockshaping, elemental focci is more basic and while my aethomancer works with it i wanna try something else
blockshaping is by far my favorite focus
blockshaping is easy just spam cold snap until your pc explodes
water caster tome summons a dolphin instead of a horse so it boosts stuff outside of damage
yeah they do that too
the earth one is extra spicy as it turns gravity into a black hole
necromancy spawns a skeleton horse
yoo
only with
tho
idk what other interactions tbh
mmm
Talking now from my phone cuz I broke my pc
welcome to the club
Just used 🌀








oh yes of course an extremely normal spell
i would like to note that in some ways the effects of a block shapers focus can be replicated using propagate overhead
Apparently the second
requires the
cuz the first
props this onto the blocklings which don't have the chilling thread
fun
Idea: use this to make a lore-accurate nuclear weapon.
well that's obvious
🌀



- 77
🌀




- 1274
That looks right
77x28 (cold snap propagation) id about 2000 and orbit is just silly like that
but 
does 27
The first one makes sense
It's 
times 4
More or less
Okay
I think I got it
Somehow in 🌀


the 
props onto all blocklings
But in 🌀

the
doesn't
Oh
I may have an explanation
Yep
So...
When casting 
:
- The icicles are killed and in their place, blocklings are summoned
- With their entity dead, all effects are lost
- But the orbits remain where the icicles one stood
I think I gotta create a propagation theoricrafting thread, just to remember all of these methods
Thx
You’re the one who made it.
did you just create 208 animated blocks with a single cast

Could cast this from a spellbinder with focus of summoning book thread, no?
thats just simulmancy with extra steps
wow i'd pin this if I could
Pft, I break the game just fine before any of those.
You equip them to break it harder.
Another fun spell
I wonder if that ones available for me or if I'm still funlocked in 1.16
Funlocked, alas.
what are you on about
decoy doesn't have a summoning sickness cooldown in 1.16.5 ?
so like
you can spam

with

can't throngle in 1.16.5
Also self throngle would just kill you
Because you are still throngling yourself
You wouldn't even make it to that point actually, since you'd crash and brick your world
All you'd have to do is find a way to survive the throngle and I believe you become the throngle
self-sacrifice
Belt of levitation:
what does belt of levitation would do to help in this situation anyway
Make you float.
that still wouldnt make you immune to throngle or explosion, tho?
Is fineeeeeeee
Sacrifices must be made for utter destruction

remember what kei said you soab
It's fine I'm using it for nuking dragons

this spell with t3 thread of shocking creates forest fires
edit: to clarify i fired this from an enchanters crossbow with a split arrow
Did you test it in creative or survival?
Also
If you'd like to spread the fire, try adding a prop.arc
survival
oh
i would not. this was an accidental discovery
i was trying to figure out ways to make og prismatic wrath actually useful
yeah i saw that. It all has the same problem though
its flashier than it is actually useful
for the mana cost
hmm
yeah
Well
I once got like 11k summons
So adding some explosion may make this the most powerful wrath of god
yeah but wrath of god also has the same problem
idk just a little boomed about it
i might focus more on contraptions in the future
what can one achieve without animated blocks hto
seemsl iek a common glyph to be banned
wiat what
peak
so i can get 4x the animated blocks from one ice block
As far as I'm aware, yes
tbh i didnt even know launched blocks could be animated
🤔 My gut says that the block shaping focus would be involved
in packs with two focus slots and/or a curio slot, simulmancers are unstoppable
⛓️

idk
what can you put in curio slots?
basically, everything can be put in a curio slot
belts, necklaces, rings, focuses, irons spellbooks, relics, quivers, backpacks, basically anything that has its own slot
there is also a difference between a "curio" slot and a slot in the curio menu... :/
yeah, its confusing. would probably make more sense if it was called an "Any" slot or something
agreed
prepare
for someone to wear 15 earthf ocuses
and then do a single proj harm
along with earth bangles and a drygmy
and a thread of spell power
(hear me out guys what if this actually does damage)
Nah multiple block shapers 😳 now that's scary
this will do nothing but kill you, crash your game and annoy other people
pretty crummy simulmancy
anyone who messages in here without saying something actually interesting will earn my scorn
To me a curio slot is a slot added by curios
Question that I now have is... can the chaining allow it to target other players 🤔
it was a part joke, was just a hypothetical considering on the server i play with friends and most stuff like this is banned on principle (the host would rather their pc stays intact from my shenanigans)
i would only do such a heinous action on a singleplayer world
i dont think they even stack lol
I have been reading simulmancy as "stimulancy" all this time.
No wonder it sounded weird.
Oh yes, the art of pleasure

Does this have a deeper meaning that I am missing?
I feel like it does lol
Nah. It’s just the basis for “stimulation” in Minecraft, a seizure attack.
Well obviously; I didn’t put 🌀
on it.
What glyph does 🌀 represent
Homing / Propagate homing
Thx
Fun fact: this thread was originally supposed to be a spell showcase, and was called "Sad Man's Parade", after Twice's Quirk from MHA.
yuh
rune.




