Not Enough Glyphs

[turbid abyss]

I've held it aside for a loong time but with the spellbinder i have a reasons to actually release it.

I just have to finalize few things before curse release, in the meanwhile check #addon-announcements

There are two things about this addon:

First, it's a repack of utility glyphs for spell context manipulation from different addons, to be used without the full addon which means:

• and from Elemental
• propagators from Omega + flat gltph to make paths
• from TMG with only few essential filters

Second, the experimental pack of features that are only here:

• basically a lingering projectile, it applies the effect various times along its path. By adjusting the delay with and its you can make bridges easily with this
• a propagate-type glyph that can allow to make aoe any spell, or give the aoe a circle and hollow square shape for building
• :plow: basically the missing hoe-glyph
  The SpellBinder is an alternative to the spellbook, it can hold up to 25 spells in the form of parchments, which means you can't edit them after making as balancing factor.
  It will also serve to test the concept of book threads, to see if it can become a future feature in base Ars, currently supporting:
• Thread that will make your spells behave as if you have a focus, currently implemented for and and wip for the elemental's
• [TO DECIDE] Threads that adds a free augment or filter to all spells in the book

[radiant vine]

alas, this great mod is coming out on cf. the spells made with this will be legendary

[stone storm]

Well, I am testing the binder, and so far I am loving as a way to store tomes and to "save spells" that I do not use as ofthem but are needed. So I do not need to make multiple spell books.

[zenith summit]

YES!! YEEESSS!!!!!!

FINALLY

[reef jackal]

Exciting

[lavish zenith]

where do I report issues?

[turbid abyss]

reposting the jar here since it's easier to track

[zenith summit]

just release on cf already

[turbid abyss]

As I said #1238789260828475483 I'd like at least three non-focus threads, lol

Also because until Ars updates with a fix, delay doesn't carry on the book threads effects

[errant bane]

It can at least be released in beta

[turbid abyss]

Sent into review

[zenith summit]

YEEEEAH BABYY

Wait shit that means i have to actually update my modpack

[errant bane]

I really should put my pack on curseforge

Mostly to make it easier for the few people on my whitelist

[turbid abyss]

Approved

https://legacy.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/not-enough-glyphs/files/5366463

[zenith summit]

YEEEEEEEEEEAHHHHHHHHHH BABY]

[ornate mica]

spell binder can't inscribe spell parchments at a scribe table

[turbid abyss]

yeah, intended

if need the spellbook to inscribe parchments, cause that can enforce the "you need to be able to use this glyph" for both tier and crafting reasons

[ornate mica]

hm, I wanted to make a duplicate of one of my parchments to hand to zieg, my instinct was to use the binder to do that

oh wait, you can just do that already

derp, ignore me

with just spell parchments

[turbid abyss]

ah

well, at least it doesn't allow the bypass via caster tomes i guess

[tiny valve]

can you port to 1.19.2 🙂

[fathom shore]

the hoe spell isnt working with aoe

[odd pasture]

love the spellbinder. i wish it was dyable, and that there were more book threads

the brown is great for my mining spellbinder, but i need a black one for all my murder spells

[turbid abyss]

The art is a placeholder

somebody made a 3d model inspired to the spellbook, i just need to iterate a bit on it

[turbid abyss]

we'll get there

credit to @stoic ingot for the design btw, i only tweaked a little and now trying to make the thread render on it causing this weirdo

[stoic ingot]

The model is basicly just the normal spellbook with a slimmer back and a few parts to hold the pages. So most of the credit for the design goes to Goobuncle anyway as I only did some minor alterations.

[turbid abyss]

this is how it would appear

at least in gui

[odd pasture]

ohohohohoho

[zenith summit]

Thats a 1.16 spellbook if it looked good

[turbid abyss]

ah btw regarding the threads we're a bit out of ideas that are not a dumb "add an amplify on end/each glyph"

some armor threads do work with the binder

[odd pasture]

oh which ones? chilling and kindling and the lightning and poison ones, i assume?

as for thread ideas… hm. yeah it does get a bit tricky. could maybe do a sort of inverse “slow power”, but maybe not power.. “high priority”, makes spells faster but reduces any durations on them?

[zenith summit]

I love the idea of high priority

Just when possible but also when possible

[turbid abyss]

i'm pretty sure of the ones that add attributes, like starbuncle or spellpower. should def double check the on-hit ones

for balancing, the binder doesn't take tier3 so it would be nice to support them as they wouldn't have their op lv3 version

[novel nebula]

maybe a thread that lets u charge up the spell binder, kinda like the crossbow

• lets u use mana and regen it before a big fight or sth
  - u have to use the spell to charge up another one

[stone storm]

No anima focus thread?

Also, the Elemental focus threads show no recipe.
I do have Ars Elemental installed

[stone storm]

I assume the reason the spell binder has 12 slots for threads, and the game just has 9 book threads, is for any future additions?

Just thinking that it would be nice if the spellbinder allowed more spell slots unlike the 10 it is limited to.
it's really useful to store tomes that I find. But when comes to string custom spells that I make, it feels like just carrying a second Spellbook. Would be nice if we could Upgrade the Spell binder to unlock extra page slots.

[turbid abyss]

where did you see 12 slots

[odd pasture]

probably the spare scroll slots on the right of the ui?

[ornate mica]

those are for parchments, and there's 15 iirc

you have 10 active slots and 15 inactive slots for spell parchments

[turbid abyss]

Aka 25 spells to carry around

[radiant vine]

(god i love the spell binder)

[turbid abyss]

And if you end up needing more than 20 spells (assuming one spell book is always at hand for custom quick spells) always quickcastable, you are in a very small niche

[radiant vine]

yes

most of the time i store a bp/shulker with spare spells in my ec

with the "niche" spells, IE spells for smelting, crushing, creating glass, etc etc

can scrolls be stored in spell caster bundles?

[turbid abyss]

The use case is leaving complex spells that won't need to be changed in the spellbinder, either active or in the storage, and have spells that constantly need adjustments in a book

[ornate mica]

yeah bundles are great for spell parchments

[radiant vine]

ooh ic

[ornate mica]

just like normal bundles

[radiant vine]

time to put these to use

[turbid abyss]

Unsure right now in which one of the two bundles

[ornate mica]

I'm talking about vanilla bundles

[turbid abyss]

Likely lifting the distinction and making it an upgrade with more slots in the near future

[ornate mica]

keeping in mind that I use mods to make those easier to interact with... they're great for parchments because they still count as 1 item each

[turbid abyss]

Is an Ender pouch already in additions?

[ornate mica]

as far as the spellcaster/trinket bag, yeah I think it's probably better to just have one?

there's the haversack in Additions

[radiant vine]

haversack?

[ornate mica]

that's the one-way send stuff back to storage

[radiant vine]

now this souds interesting

[ornate mica]

you can link it to an inventory and then when you put stuff in the haversack, as long as the inventory is loaded, it will be deposited

you can't put stuff in the bag at all if the linked inventory isn't loaded

[radiant vine]

hmm

would a create mechanical hand set to right click touching an item make it be "stored"?

[ornate mica]

pretty sure it works like a bundle, in your inventory

[turbid abyss]

So still different than a portable enderchest

[ornate mica]

yeah

but like, we have

so why would anyone make an ars trinket to do that?

[radiant vine]

one really evil thing to do would be to enchant someone with reactive IV, soulbound, and Curse of binding and imbue on it

just thought about that

[turbid abyss]

Fair, even with a different storage it wouldn't matter too much

is always an option, pouches were made to not pollute it with ars stuff

But we're having more and more stuff to put inside them since they were made

[radiant vine]

time to asd the pouch of pouches

[stone storm]

Oh, from how I saw it, I thought the left side was for threads

[turbid abyss]

The line between not enough inventory and too much nested inventory is important

Threads go in via alteration table

[stone storm]

Any for to increase the number of threads from 2 to 3?

[turbid abyss]

Not at the moment, later on with the addition of more threads maybe

Unlikely to get a tier 3 slot in any case

[stone storm]

IS momentum disabled?

Because there is no craft recipe for it

[turbid abyss]

Still wip

Doesn't really behave in a consistent way atm

[cursive zephyr]

Hey, I've been wonderin', what does ⛓️ do? I couldn't grasp on what it does since it was the same results as the ordinary chaining.

[turbid abyss]

Nothing, it's apparently a leftover from something Derringer wanted to add but didn't

[cursive zephyr]

Thanks.

[undone glen]

why is it still not consistent? the momentum glyph

[turbid abyss]

Ever tried to actually use it?

Maybe the weirdness calmed down a bit since I factored gravity

But it's basically amplifying vertical movement a lot and adding very little on horizontal plane

[undone glen]

i haven't gotten a chance to use it no,

[turbid abyss]

@maiden ore @ornate mica

[ornate mica]

nice!

[maiden ore]

I love that you're showing chain sensitive interactions, but with that particular spell it also sort of works as a smoothing spell

[turbid abyss]

sands allow to show when you're lifting below

as many will overlap and drop on fall

if you lift only the top layer, that won't happen. so it was perfect

need to allow fluid as exposed now

[undone glen]

does that mean that not enough glyphs has a different interaction than too many glyphs?

[turbid abyss]

i just coded it

sensitive augment was not implemented in TMG and that compatibility was carried over in NEG

but never noticed that

so now we need to make sensitive do something

Xacris already asked long ago for this feature, so it was the right time to add it

[undone glen]

If only this was a thing in 1.16.5 back then, woulda helped my base decor lol

[ornate mica]

this would have made every terraforming project I've ever done so much easier lol

the issue with doing normally when you want to swap out a floor is that if the floor is dirt or stone or anything that is more than 1 block deep, you end up replacing a lot of blocks that no one can see

[maiden ore]

Did that in my base when swapping the floor to randomized deepslate/tuff

[turbid abyss]

I also tried the randomize on Plane

Tbh with just a 10% of not placing its not good

A bit more interesting with 25%

Now, again the multi choose:
A) Have it at 10% and scale by 10 each randomize
B) Have it at 25%, randomize is just a bool
C) Start from 25%, scale by X each randomize (with X either 10 or 25)

[maiden ore]

I wonder if you could use a block in your hotbar as "air" to use with place block

Like imagine you had 2 cobble stacks and 3 mage block stacks on your hotbar. With place block randomize it would pick which block to use

So it would be 2/5 chance of placing a real block, 3/5 chance of placing "nothing" (or a mage block that disappears in a moment)

[turbid abyss]

If you want to use that for place block, use plane randomize instead of aoes

To code it into place, it would be very weird

[maiden ore]

Yeah I guess I was sort of thinking of a placeholder block for spells like that. Where normally randomize would work on the blocks on your bar, this would be a "blank" block

So a plane place block randomize, or place block randomize aoe (or exchange, etc) would treat it as a block, but if rng rolled that hotbar slot, it simply wouldn't place anything

[turbid abyss]

Would really need craftable air somehow

[maiden ore]

To re summarize the thought all together. Because I don't think I explained well

Right now with block place spells, the modifier will pick from any of the placeable blocks on your hotbar to figure out what to place.

What if we had a fake block you could put on your hotbar so that it would be an option to place instead of a real block, but if it rolled that "fake" block, nothing got placed, and it didn't consume the item

[turbid abyss]

Or a specific item that if rolled, is treated as an air block

[maiden ore]

Yeah

[turbid abyss]

That still falls in base Ars as modifications, unsure if how well a mixin can handle it

[maiden ore]

Yeah fair, either base or maybe additions. It would have to hook into how place block worked so it would know to do nothing, but to still treat it as "placeable"

Added it as a general suggestion.

Craftable air would technically work.. As well as maybe flowers or mushrooms, if when placed, they simply couldn't be placed there

Cactus actually probably works

Haven't tried that

Might need to throw a pickup on the spell to pick up the dropped cacti. But I'd expect them to break instantly in most cases

[maiden ore]

science has been done. yes. you can place "air" with cactus

4 casts of place block aoe4 with that hotbar

(also posted over at the terraform suggestion since thats what started this conversation

[undone glen]

i just had an idea

can you code chaining so that will only affect blocks right within the distance

so if i cast ⛓️ [propagate ]

it would make a ring for a sugar cane farm, theorically anyway

[turbid abyss]

Not sure if I follow

If you want a ring shape, there is plane

It can make circles, hollow too

[rigid grail]

.>

Any chance Ray and Missile could be flagged as allowed for turrets?

[sterile orbit]

Wondering why do burst and linger glyph not have propagate variant

[novel nebula]

burst and linger already are propagate variants

whats supposed to be the difference between and [Propagate Burst]

[undone glen]

i think he means make them green lol

oh that reminds me

[undone glen]

in theory the spell should do this

plus some water

[turbid abyss]

this time i managed to make them work

Ray i mean, missile was just a projectile to shoot

[turbid abyss]

weird use for it

[turbid abyss]

trail too, with fix to its bridgemaking

it won't resolve on blocks affected by trail's spell

ermh, expend its pierce i mean

common issue with using it was that the trail was hitting its own walls and splatting itseld

[undone glen]

in theory, the spell i talked about with ⛓️ would do this

if it's too close to the chained block, it'll skip it

[turbid abyss]

And why should someone use chain like that and not pPlane in hollow mode?

[undone glen]

does plane allow it to go make 3d shapes?

how do i get it to do that

[turbid abyss]

Dampen to hollow, Pierce to expand in third dim

[zenith summit]

IT CAN DO WHAT

THIS IS GONNA BE FUN

[undone glen]

ok so

i had an idea

what if

you could

make a thread

that upon activating a certain spell in the spell binder, it outputs a redstone signal to a linked redstone relay

for example

if i have

it would then activate a redstone relay that's linked to the book

upon using the last

[ornate mica]

so first, having a thread track a spell in your binder sounds like a nightmare on the user side to configure everything, and from a design side to make all those things link up in that way. What you could do instead, if you want a remote redstone signal, is to use an Enchanter's Eye casting / through a scry crystal

[undone glen]

but

you can't cast spells and do that at the same time the way i described it

for example if i cast

i can't also cast with encahanter's eye

on that specific spell

[versed lance]

Need to get this into All the Mods. I need spell binders.

[real lance]

How do I make a spell binder i cant find it anywhere in game or online

[real lance]

aaaaaaaaaaaa

[novel nebula]

8 leather and 1 spell book

spell book goes in middle

[plucky scaffold]

am i using the spell binder book threads wrong? dmg and mana cost dont change whether or not the thread is applied (current spell is )

[plucky scaffold]

if the lesser spell foucus was applied in my curio slot it seems like it would deal 13 dmg rather than 7

[turbid abyss]

the foci thread only enables the special effects

[undone glen]

hmm?

[undone glen]

does that mean that the dampeniing mechanic on other elements is not present?

[turbid abyss]

not even that, no

simply allows to cast spells with the special combo granted by glyphs, in a similar manner of the caster tomes

[undone glen]

so

theorically

i can

use 3 focus special effects at once???

is that what im hearing?

because if hat is the case

[turbid abyss]

yes, had to drop the dual focus thing, by having the focus in hand

but allowed to give the binder the threads and get two of them from there

[undone glen]

wait what do you mean?

theoretically does that mean that before you could have one focus on your main slot, one focus on the off hand, one in the main hand after a spell is fired and 2 from the binder itself?

because if that is the case, that is quite literally the avatar

and i love that

even if this is not the case

with the combination of this new-found knowledge

i can finally

make use

of the wizards armarium

as i truly wanted it

though now that i think about it

why **doesn't ** it work as a lesser/normal focus

the options for are there

since there are 2 threads slots

that each go higher

[turbid abyss]

that before i had change how foci are checked, Elemental was checking the slot and the hands

likely only worked with one focus from each regardless of using both hands and having multiple spell focus slots

by swapping to the same kind of check that the and use, i lost the hands check

with the binder you can slot two foci in it, then have another focus in the curio slot

[undone glen]

i see

is that also why i can't increase the curio slot of ars nouveau even with config/commans?

commands

[turbid abyss]

emh no, that's just weird

[undone glen]

i swear, it's the most niche thing in existance

it sets it back to 1 immideatelly

[wind estuary]

does- does the momentum glyph work exactly like it seems

https://tenor.com/view/black-adam-gif-26989330

[turbid abyss]

Hard to tell because it's not very consistent

Should be similar to a leap that doesn't set the velocity but adds

Was built based on the Accelerate Leap test I made for the arrow railgun thread

But it's hard to test

[undone glen]

It only works vertically for me

Perhaps a version that ignores vertical momentum could give insight

[turbid abyss]

the problem is that horizontal momentum decrease extremely quickly for players

while vertical has higher numbers due to gravity

[undone glen]

Oh? How much more?

If that is the case why not try and compare the 2 values and use a GCF to make the total acceleration the relative same

[wind estuary]

yknow that is exactly what i thought to use it for when i saw it

its really really funny that you made it for the arrow cannon

[turbid abyss]

i think using leap -> momentum is the best way to use it

multiply the momentum right after adding motion

before it can decay

[undone glen]

I see

Is there no way to reduce the decay of acceleration?

[turbid abyss]

no, that's just how mc's air friction work

[undone glen]

Hmm

I see

[turbid abyss]

It has less friction while on elytra obvs

[solar cloak]

https://github.com/Alexthw46/NotEnoughGlyphs/pull/2 pls

[wind estuary]

alexbuncle, i've come to bargain

for a new book thread

that consumes health/hunger to supplement the mana cost of a spell

higher tier threads consume more to supplement more mana cost

Thread of Voracity

[undone glen]

so like tome of blood from the blood magic compat addon

[wind estuary]

not quite? tome of blood draws from your LP network

which there are a gorillion ways to fill up

limiting the scope to exclusively health or hunger makes it a bit easier to tune

but still provides a compelling power fantasy

as well as extra value to thinks like thread of the whirlisprig's extra saturation

[undone glen]

auto feeding upgrades bouta reach even higher levels of value

[opal quarry]

started with too many glyphs then not enough glyphs, soon "just enough glyphs" will drop

[maiden ore]

Roughly Enough Glyphs

Eventually we will add an official addon to base ars and name it the glyph book. It will be inferior in every way

[foggy ore]

Lol

[turbid abyss]

1.25

Probably

[foggy ore]

Is there any difference in these?

[turbid abyss]

NEG is a repack of glyphs that didn't survive the sweep of time but are useful to have

it has most but not all of tmg

few things from omega

and others from my mods and few inedit ones

it's not just TMG^2

[wind estuary]

#1222861594657030205 message

tapping the desk

with hope in my eyes

<3

[undone glen]

any sneak peaks?

[wary quail]

Does it matter what tier of book you make a Spell Binder from? If you make it from a Tier 1 book, can the Spellbinder be later upgraded?

[maiden ore]

Since the binder can't actually make any spell, you need scrolls. The binder doesn't have a tier; but making any given scroll needs a tier of book high enough to cast that spell in the first place

[turbid abyss]

And there's no upgrading either that could change the thread slots

[undone glen]

Is there a config to change the thread slot levels/numbers?

[turbid abyss]

Iirc thread slots aren't compatible with configs/reload by design

[opaque shuttle]

can someone please make an update tfor this mod for the Trial Chamber update on Neoforge, id love to add it to my modpack but i dont want to downgrade below that update since i havent got to play it

i can get the exact version when i get home

[solar cloak]

its already on neo

[opaque shuttle]

but i dont think its updated

i could be wrong and i can check in an hour or so

[solar cloak]

you are wrong

[undone glen]

Oh, why so?

[opaque shuttle]

Someone sent me to the wrong thread, I was asking about [TOO MANY GLYPHS]

[maiden ore]

Yup. What do you need specifically from TMG? NEG was created to carry over a lot of TMG's features while the TMG dev was busy

[opaque shuttle]

@maiden ore

I was trying to replicate spells like this

https://discord.com/channels/743298050222587978/1347022951370981406

[maiden ore]

Yeah neg has chaining

[opaque shuttle]

What is that purple rune though?

[maiden ore]

That thread says "aura" from trinkets

[opaque shuttle]

Ah

Is that one available for neoforge 1.21?

Sorry I'm not able to get on forge rn

[maiden ore]

Everything is moved to neoforge for 1.21+. Trinkets I don't recall if it was updated though. Per that thread though, swap out for self burst sensitive is probably good

[opaque shuttle]

Gotcha

[wary quail]

In #general-and-help Alex told me NEG's chain works slightly different compared to TMG and intentionally doesn't have Lay on Hands cuz jank.

Are any of these others different? What are the Trinkets / are they in not_enough_glyphs-1.20.1-3.2.1.1.jar? Not finding info on them in JEI

[undone glen]

Pretty sure ars trinkets didnt update

[carmine ore]

Figured I should put this here too, but the Spell Binder's Summoner Focus Thread doesn't apply Self spells to summons. I'm on 1.20.1 so I doubt this'll be fixed but I wanted to know if there's a way around this

[carmine ore]

With some further testing, Block shaper's doesnt work either.

Maybe it's because I'm on a server, I dunno.

But it feels like I wasted resources

[carmine ore]

Looks like it's a server issue?

I'll see if I can fix it

[carmine ore]

I don't think I can fix it with installing and reinstalling the mod. I don't know any ways I could potentially fix this. The threads are properly inserted into the Spell Binder but the Binder casts spells as if they weren't. It works in singleplayer but on the server it doesn't. Maybe it's because I installed the mod mid-playthrough?

Literally any help that could be a fix would be appreciated

[turbid abyss]

oh wow, if it was completely broken it could have be me forgetting stuff but if it's only broken on servers it's weird af

[carmine ore]

I can get footage of the bug happening if you need it

[wary quail]

Is it possible to rename Spell Binders, to help label/distinguish them beyond just recoloring?

[maiden ore]

Anything should be possible to rename using an anvil or just the rename spell

[turbid abyss]

i remember the name of the item being overriden with the spell it has, but maybe i managed to make it right and have it like Spellbinder (spell_name)

[wary quail]

If I have a spellbinder in offhand, and another spellbook/binder in main hand with a rename spell, will it rename the binder or get confused and only use the binder or something?

I might have to test it in a single player creative world to make sure it doesn't make the binder glitchy or unusable or anything

or erase the spells

I have noticed a few times with the spellbinder (I'm on 1.20.1), moving a spell from the storage slots to an empty active slot, then closing the book, I can't select the spell the spell wheel has that number blank. And opening the book again, the scroll is just gone not in either section

So that incentivized me to make duplicates of every scroll and keep one in chests somewhere to reference later, in case I forget what spells I even made and existed in the first place lol

[carmine ore]

It'll rename the binder but make sure the binder isn't set to an active spell just to be safe

[maiden ore]

Real mad wizards only rename their binder when it is actively holding a spell for complete annihilation

[wary quail]

Seems like renaming the binder removes the ability for it to have (Spell Name) after the item name

So you can't actually tell what spell is active in the book that easily without manually switching to it with the radial menu

[undone glen]

Name it book of ruin

[wary quail]

Not sure where to ask this, so I'm asking here.

The issue is with Mageblock (basemode Ars Nouveau) + Ray (Too Many Glyphs but I have it via Not Enoguh Glyphs)

Not with 100% consistency but more often than I like, instead of placing a Mageblock of my chosen color (very specific shade of purple/violet), it sets one of the default pink.

The color corrects itself by itself over time, like 30 seconds so noticeably long. Or after I cast the spell again, previous ones fix, but new one can also have the glitch or be fine, it's not consistent when it happens. I think it only happens with Ray, though I may need to double check that. (It definitely didn't used to do this with Touch, but I had to erase and rewrite the spell at some point, so I'll need to check if newer Touch-ones do.) I am currently casting it as a Spell Scroll within a Spell Binder, but I also had this issue in a Spellbook.

So it's only ever 1 default colored block at a time

Is there a way to change my personal default maybe? I can test if that bypasses the issue though I imagine the glitch would still proc

This is a large modpack being played on a server, so that's some unaccountable variables. I have not tested if I get this glitch in a single player world yet. This is on 1.20.1 not the current version

It's not a HUGE issue, it corrects itself eventually, but is still worth pointing out as a potential bug

I posted it here instead of in #1096849320608805123 because it might just be an issue with Ray

This is the spell scroll being used (again happens from a Spell Book not just Spell Binder), mana cost is -60 because of equipment, I'll test if I can still get this glitch to show up without the discount just in case

[radiant cave]

I love the idea of the contingency glyph.

I do have one question though:
If I wanted to make a spell that teleported me home when I hit 20% health, would I be forced to hold a scroll in my offhand while teleporting, or when I cast the spell?

[turbid abyss]

The blink part would only be "read" when the contingency triggers

There's maybe a way to make that work if blink takes the scroll on the top left slot of your main inventory

If it's not the default behavior, maybe by using pUnderfoot rune sensitive blink?

Never had to meddle with the warp scroll tricks

There should be a way

[maiden ore]

With the very tiny amount of time I used it this morning when you hit me with it, it seems like the contingency lasts a decent time, and will continue to reapply the spell whenever triggered? Did I understand that right?

[turbid abyss]

no it will be removed on trigger

was pondering on giving the ability to persist x triggers

[maiden ore]

I guess maybe you hit me multiple times with it then

[turbid abyss]

i did apply it without and then with extend time

[undone glen]

so

[spring mirage]

Hey... why book threads are put under Ars Nouveau ID if they apply to Spell Binder from this mod?
Other addons don't seem to have that issue with their Threads as they have correctly their ID from the respective addons (though no other addon I got in the pack was specifically made for Spell Binder)

[turbid abyss]

Unsure, might be that they defaulted to ars or there was an error in the start

but switching out later would risk weird stuff, even with the id replacement set

[undone glen]

So I have a question

How would the contingencies work with an infusion pylon?

[turbid abyss]

they wouldn't

unless they manage to actually take the instance...but the spell isn't gonna serialize so i doubt that's possible

[undone glen]

... can you make it compat..?

i know it's a lot to ask

but

it would be REALLLY funny

[graceful topaz]

It seems that there is a BUG in glyph contingency death in not enough glyphs. It doesn't take effect when targeting the player themselves

[steel lily]

I got a crash for version 4.2.8 using latest version of Sauce with Ars Zero:
"java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: com.alexthw.sauce.common.glyphs.AbstractContingency"

downgrading to 4.2.7 works

ehhh no i'm not on the latest at all, my bad

[turbid abyss]

I'm trying to up the "major" of sauce when I add this kind of things

Got to 0.0.20 now

If we add something important, we can bump to 0.1 or decide to start with the 1.0.x

[twilit ether]

will this get ported to 1.21

[steel lily]

This is on 1.21?

[twilit ether]

wrong channel sry

[graceful topaz]

I think this is a BUG

[steel lily]

Only from this mod? Doesn't feel like it should be NEG causing this bug but maybe 🤔

[turbid abyss]

it's a bug in ars itself, apparently never disappeared

before it was like, the nametag there

unless the bug is having red glyphs in the effect zone

[hardy stream]

would an "airborne" contingency be feasible? Something to activate when the target is not grounded, or maybe something more detailed like X blocks up (augmentable) using a windshear-like height check.

Could be useful offensively to reactively trigger windshear or gravity, or even cavitate when the target gets lifted by a bubble (more use for bubbles as field traps). Would also be nice defensively since plenty of hostile effects will end up with you airborne.

[fathom shore]

what was the latest update for?

[turbid abyss]

Aren't there changelogs?

[graceful topaz]

Will more spells be added in the future?

[turbid abyss]

Nothing planned at the moment and there aren't much worth proposals.
Maybe a few more contingencies could be explored, but there are other priorities

[weary dirge]

Would a config option for Ars Scalaes' resize glpyh be something you'd consider, to allow it to be a bit more useful? It might not be the most balanced thing in the world, but I think resize magic that actually affects move speed, step height, jump height, and block reach would be pretty fun.

[calm portal]

Issue with binder no longer displaying selected scroll.

Ars Eclectica 1.21.1-35 [Minecraft 1.21.1, Neoforge 21.1.210, Ars Nouveau 5.11.2, Not Enough Glyphs 4.2.8]

Reproduction steps:

1. create a binder
2. insert a spell scroll (e.g. Xarcis' Tiny Hut)
3. put into offhand
4. use a spellbook with [self][name] set to nothing or any text
5. cast the spell to rename the binder

Expected result:
Custom or blank name would not impact display of selected spell scroll

Actual result:
The displayed name becomes blank and you cannot tell which scroll you are using.

[turbid abyss]

Custom names always override what the code say about appending the spell name after

it's out of my control scope

name with blank name still doing something is a base Ars bug

[solar cloak]

you could probably mixin it but it is a pain

blank name is something i shouldve pr'ed but kept being lazy