#Ars Additions

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manic edge
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what if

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there were "cursed reliquaries" that had 8 durability

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but they only activate with specific conditions

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wait no

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hmm

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i was thinking something similar to witchery curses that last 7 minecraft ddays

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but reliquaries as is now probs wouldn't work for it

covert topaz
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They will for now, but this will be patched in the future

glossy ravine
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Sad, but understandable lol

covert topaz
drifting crater
north valve
# covert topaz They will for now, but this will be patched in the future

Quick question, since Eternal Stella+Reliquary will be patched in the future, will other mods that add enchants that lessen the amount of durability damage an item takes still work?

For example in a server I'm making there's a mod enchant that significantly lessens the amount of durability damage items can take (by making them useless at 1 Durability instead of being destroyed) still be viable with Ars Addons?

covert topaz
north valve
covert topaz
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It's a possibility, but no recharge method is currently planned

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Charms don't use durability, so things like the enchant you were talking about and the eternal Stella won't work on them either

glossy ravine
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I’ve been meaning to ask/check; is there a config for how long the charms last? I’d like to use the night vision one, but it drains ridiculously fast

covert topaz
glossy ravine
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the darkvision one needs more imo, as it will flip on whenever you go into anywhere dark enough. even some parts of my base casue it to use

manic edge
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Me with Fulbright:

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Hold on

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What about “evil eyes”

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You know like the hundreds of animals eyes

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Anime*

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Autocorrect killing me

wary rivet
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is there a way to increase the frequency of Nexus Tower spawns? I can add it to more biome tags but that's only half of my issue

unkempt pike
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Separation and spacing here

wary rivet
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ah, thanks, don't know how I missed that

runic iris
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I don't know if you want an entire map of just nexus towers.

wary rivet
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no, just mildly more common

latent linden
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@covert topaz lets continue here

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what about a special pedestal that "ticks" an item

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so you place the said jar on top on this pedestal

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you can surround this with regular pedestals which will contain the items to void (easily automate-able using hoppers or any pipes)

covert topaz
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Yeah, but it's just a block form at the end of the day, I'm hesitant to use pedestals as they really limit throughput

latent linden
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but they are more "magical" than regular machines

latent linden
covert topaz
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Pedestals hold one item, so even with 8 Pedestals, you have a throughput of 8/t

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Which is 1/8th of the throughput of most pipes

latent linden
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8/t is 160 per second

latent linden
covert topaz
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Unsure

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Haversack is for item transportation

latent linden
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160/s is 80xp per second

latent linden
covert topaz
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For the jar yes, but i want a single solution for both

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Haversack is one-way wireless deposit

latent linden
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oh

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so remote dump cool

covert topaz
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As long as it's bound inventory is chunkloaded, it can deposit items

latent linden
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yeah then it will be a problem

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I would say if you are going to do this, a simple block wont work.

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as in not fit with theme

covert topaz
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Could have it as an ongoing ritual, augmented with the item used

latent linden
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could make it mob

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it would be similar to drygmy since it handles a chest. and if there was mob which you could hand the item to

sullen orchid
covert topaz
sullen orchid
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Yeah but how are the items getting there?

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Hoppers are 2.5 items per second each, most pipes aren't going every tick either

covert topaz
spice bramble
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Is there a way for me to teleport to a player/entity with a reliquary in a turret?

covert topaz
spice bramble
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In that case is there a way to make another reliquary that targets the same target with a previous reliquary (Sorry if this doesn't make sense)

covert topaz
oblique estuary
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With the warp nexus I just put scrolls in there and it works similar to a waystone? Is there anyway I can teleport back?

covert topaz
oblique estuary
covert topaz
spice bramble
covert topaz
spice bramble
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OBS is loading

covert topaz
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Interesting, has the server possibly changed configs?

meager lily
spice bramble
spice bramble
meager lily
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the dragon is your friend?

spice bramble
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Yeah Little_Dragon000
We're using dragon survival

meager lily
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Wait... 1.20.1?

spice bramble
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Yes

meager lily
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i deadass though this mod died in 1.16.5

spice bramble
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pfffff

meager lily
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Tho never tried interact

spice bramble
meager lily
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So reliquary cast a spell in that location, the theory is if interact which is "right click" button, can register the reliquary location then you would have a warp scroll of that location

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let me give it a try and see if it work

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it require shift nvm

mystic crown
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jarva, i think the chat message on the adv dominion wand is flipped

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it says "set mode: Locked First" when the wand says locked second

wary rivet
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java.lang.IllegalStateException: Trying to access unbound value 'ResourceKey[minecraft:worldgen/structure / ars_additions:nexus_tower]' from registry net.minecraft.core.MappedRegistry$1@1ccedb18
trying to investigate

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even with an identical json. very strange

wary rivet
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data/ars_additions/worldgen/structure_set/nexus_tower ?

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yeah config\openloader\packs\mm\data\ars_additions\worldgen\structure_set\nexus_tower.json ((mm is my datapack name)

covert topaz
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Show the contents of the file then

wary rivet
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{
  "neoforge:conditions": [
    {
      "type": "ars_additions:config",
      "config": "nexus_tower_enabled"
    }
  ],
  "placement": {
    "type": "minecraft:random_spread",
    "salt": 72147935,
    "separation": 20,
    "spacing": 80
  },
  "structures": [
    {
      "structure": "ars_additions:nexus_tower",
      "weight": 1
    }
  ]
}

It's currently identical to the one the mod has

wary rivet
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ars additions got disabled somehow o.o nvm

covert topaz
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Glad it's working

lucid plover
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Are the apparatuses in the Library actually set up in proper configuration for use? The one with redstone for example.

lucid plover
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I'll have to study those then, my redstone knowledge is weak though I do have a book coming.

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I'm guess there's no direct way to the rooftop garden and you're expecting to use Leap, etc. or install a portal?

mystic crown
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What redstone do they have set up? Still haven't found one yet

lucid plover
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I'm not even sure which is why I need to study it. Just noticed the redstone pieces.

covert topaz
covert topaz
lucid plover
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Lol that's not my issue -- my paranoid self broke every rune I saw.

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While tearing up every single major floor in the place. 💀

covert topaz
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Hahaha, they don't recharge at least

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And there's some you can't see coming

lucid plover
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Yeah I noticed lol.

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I'll be converting it into my main living facility, very cool place to do some remodeling in.

covert topaz
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It's really exciting to see people enjoying the structure. I watched Chosen Architect go through the structure and saw people in the comments super excited about the library

covert topaz
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I've been playing MC for the first time this year, and I feel like I haven't really used many of the features from Ars Additions, so I wanted to get some feedback about what features people use from it?

lucid plover
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I've only really just started actually playing again myself. Since I've been back most of my time has gone towards testing mods to see what I actually want to use.
One thing Additions does for me and other players with MC and at least some Ars experience is cut out a lot of the early grind.
I also enjoy that it encourages me to explore a lot more before settling into a location to build.

mystic crown
covert topaz
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He uses Ars primarily in EP1, 2 and 6 which are good watches

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About 1.5 hours of content

sullen orchid
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honestly going through the library and coming out with a fully-fleshed out set of tier 1 glyphs was pretty nice

mystic crown
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Honestly I'm like a month or two behind on hermits even. Still haven't watched even one of them all the way through the recent life series

lucid plover
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I think I've finally found all of the nooks and crannies in my in progress Library base. I'm just wondering if the mods stop spawning.

spice bramble
mystic crown
lucid plover
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Yeah and I think that's the case here but I had a hunter pop on me in the foyer that caught me by surprise.

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I haven't completely lit up the ceiling yet so that's likely the culprit.

mystic crown
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Wonder if they are needing a flat surface still? Do you need floating lights? Id assume they still need ground though

covert topaz
spice bramble
meager lily
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Handy sack is cool i like it, tablet locations too i use

spice bramble
meager lily
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depend on what/where you tping

north valve
meager lily
# north valve Self healing walls?

Walls around kingdom that detect when they got damaged and then rebuild themselves it also support custom design and in future will see if i can make a custom cloning area for schematic using exchange on a massive scale

lucid plover
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Are you using a modpack?

mystic crown
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Usual suspects are extra pedestals nearby

covert topaz
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This isn't related to Ars Additions

manic sapphire
# covert topaz This isn't related to Ars Additions

Thanks, I thought I posted in help/general. Must have gotten lost while searching chat. Explains why I couldn't find my post afterwards... ><

I deleted the post immediately, but for anyone else who has the same problem where the Enchanting Apparatus cannot detect the recipe (no recipe located) for Potion Flask, the problem was that I was using a Glass Bottle from a different mod (Shrinks or something). Its icons and names are the same, with only the flavor text and mod pack being different. Thank you to the two who replied for replying!

rough geode
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is the nexus not crafteable? Is it then intended to be used just in the towers and not as waystones?

covert topaz
rough geode
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ok Ty

mystic crown
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Wait, can they just be picked up with a pick? I assumed only carry on

lucid plover
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You can Break them safely but when you place them somewhere else it's no longer free transport and will need source provided.

mystic crown
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Aha. Fair enough. I haven't actually looked into them that much. I moved into the tower so I could have easy transport pre-chimera for a blink rune

meager lily
sullen kiln
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can someone explain to me what determines the charge time of an imbued spell parchment

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also how do you even make them there doesnt seem to be a recipe

sullen kiln
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it appears it depends on the mana cost but im not sure

covert topaz
sullen kiln
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oh

covert topaz
sullen kiln
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soooooooo trinkets and ars plus stuff is basically unusable with them

covert topaz
sullen kiln
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that would be amazing

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i have absolutely no idea how much time it would take to charge as it is

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i just checked its around 13k mana

covert topaz
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Yeah that's insane, more mana than anyone should have

sullen kiln
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i mean ars trinkets allows for ridiculously high mana

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4 eternal runes, 9 archmage hearts and 7th circle mage makes ur max be ~60k i think

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and thats with the heavy nerfs it received

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it was over 1.4 million in earlier versions

covert topaz
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Yeah, I don't agree with Ars Trinkets as a concept.

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It's beyond ridiculous amounts

sullen orchid
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we don't account for things that go wildly off-scale

mystic crown
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Jarva, I did just see the charms additions adds. I love the idea and want to play with them

sullen orchid
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the charms are fun! I plan on making a shop for them

covert topaz
sullen kiln
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wait one question

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how do you recharge them

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they say rechargeable but how

covert topaz
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Charms? Pop them in an imbuement chamber

sullen kiln
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oh

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also was it intended for them to be compatible with mending and unbreaking

mystic crown
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I got a relic that increases my charm slot count as well

sullen kiln
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i noticed the anti wither effect one has more uses with unbreaking

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and can be mended

mystic crown
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Snow boot one unironically looks great lol

sullen orchid
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they're supposed to specifically not benefit from mending/unbreaking iirc

sullen kiln
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but they do

sullen orchid
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and various other shenanigans with durability

sullen kiln
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tested

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also reliquaries do that as well

open dragon
sullen kiln
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that was chaos

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also that was before the ars plus guy added domain burnout so i could technically spam domains with an autoclicker without running out of mana

mystic crown
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Trinkets as a concept I think is fine. I don't agree with the scale

sullen kiln
covert topaz
sullen kiln
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im saying its op cuz i was testing that in creative

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eternal runes are practically impossible to get in survival

mystic crown
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Creative will let you put enchants on things that can't go on them. So makes sense

sullen kiln
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especially 4 of them

covert topaz
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You can give it a try, but charms have no durability

sullen kiln
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idk how but i remember it working

covert topaz
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So it shouldn't work at all

sullen kiln
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when i was testing the wither one with unbreaking 3 it took more tries to take 1 charge off of it

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is it a chance thing or?

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yeah i just checked it out it takes 3 tries to take off 1 charge

covert topaz
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Wither one can be a bit weird with implementation

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Try something like the dispel or void one

sullen kiln
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i tried the one time ones

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i dont think they work with the enchants

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ill try the dispel one

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do i need to have an effect that can be dispelled for it to work or does it work against dispel in general

covert topaz
sullen kiln
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ok so

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i tried the dispel one

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doesnt take durability at all???

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like i tried using an autoclicker it just doesnt

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and the fire one works as intended

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and for reliquaries ik for a fact the enchants work

covert topaz
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Yeah reliquaries work, they need to be moved over to the new charge system

sullen kiln
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oh so reliquaries will stay rechargeable

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thats rlly nice actually i was expecting for u to make it stay on 4 uses

sullen kiln
covert topaz
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Yeah i haven't flagged them as unenchantable, it just won't do anything

knotty escarp
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Small bug to report, versions above 1.3.4 on 1.20.1 do not launch as they request a later version of Ars Nouveau that only exists for 1.21.1.

mystic crown
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Huh. Odd. I thought in my test world it didn't list anything but soul bound and reactive

knotty escarp
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Sure. one moment

covert topaz
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Because plenty of people are running newer than 1.3.4

knotty escarp
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This is when running 1.6.7 AA on 1.20.1

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Could be a fluke with my pack tho

covert topaz
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4.12.6

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4.9.0 is old

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Very old

knotty escarp
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Interesting, Prism Launcher didn't list it in its version checking for Ars Nouveau. Thank you, I will try adding this version to the pack and updating from there.

covert topaz
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Modrinth is outdated if that's what you're using

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Modrinth for Ars Nouveau is not really supported

open dragon
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Maybe it's additions in the first place that's getting picked up and leading to Rinth max version

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I wonder what's the criteria at all

knotty escarp
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That was the issue, it defaulted to Modrinth instead of Curse.

wary rivet
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I can't seem to get recall-blink to work consistently in 1.21.1-21.1.5. I have a marked reliquary in my offhand

wary rivet
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just for it to work every time I try to cast it

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instead of only sometimes

meager lily
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Yeah but like what you tping

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or blinking like yourself forward or to a location or what

wary rivet
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blinking myself to the marked location

meager lily
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why not just use warp scroll?

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it register a location and when you have it in your off hand then cast blink it will teleport you to that registered location

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reliquary doesn't blink You to X location it cast blink on that location

wary rivet
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that doesn't work if you target yourself

meager lily
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warp scroll? it does

wary rivet
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idk if this is just a 1.21.1 thing or what

covert topaz
wary rivet
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for warp scroll or recall blink?

covert topaz
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Warp Scroll

wary rivet
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ah, good to know

covert topaz
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I can investigate behaviour with recall blink

wary rivet
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I'd appreciate that

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My spells were literally just touch-mark recall-blink

lucid plover
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For the Ender Source Jar am I right in understanding that I can place the 1st jar in my base being fed by a link, relay, etc. and take a 2nd with me and when I need source for a ritual this 2nd jar is essentially a clone of the 1st?

sullen orchid
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yup

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both jars reference the same source pool

lucid plover
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I think that's my new favorite feature from Additions.

sullen orchid
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it is quite handy. Even if you don't chunkload it, it will refill once you get back to your base

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and then of course if you do chunkload it, then you have easily portable source for things like impromptu Flight Rituals

covert topaz
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Funnily enough, I think for Additions, my best features were the earliest.

(Stabilized) Warp Index, Ender Source Jar, Ruined Warp Portals

lucid plover
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Meh they're all cool.

rough geode
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I had never played with additions and Im a bit lost as to how to use mark and recall since neither jei nor the book are showing recipes for the reliquary

wary rivet
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interestingly costs no source

mystic crown
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Most apparatus crafting recipes don't cost source

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It's the armor upgrades and enchanting that do cost source. But most other actual crafting doesn't.

cyan root
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@covert topaz
What do you think about this for a staff? 🤔

open dragon
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very mixeled

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especially the cuboid parts on the handle, they can be simplified without losing much

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in those parts there are like 4x pixels

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to keep the border thin without giving too much mixel feel you could at least uniform the color of the center

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the big gem and handle i guess that are fine in that regard, if you want to rely on the dynamic coloring then the texture will have to look decent in grayscale tho

cyan root
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Thanks Alex. What does mixeled/mixel mean though?

open dragon
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basically mixed pixel resolution

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in your case the main parts of the staff being 16px and the details something more like 32px density

cyan root
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Ahhhh gotcha, that's true, I should get rid of that. Cheers for the link!

cyan root
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A bit less mixeled

open dragon
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For general art suggestions I summon @gleaming parrot

gleaming parrot
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I agree with Alex - addressing the mixels will be a big help! It's looking really good.

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It also depends on what you are trying to accomplish with the art style. If you are going your own way, going this direction is no problem. If you are trying to emulate the style of Minecraft or Ars Nouveau, the staff has a lot of detail by comparison.

open dragon
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Additions tend to remain pretty AN styled if i recall

cyan root
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Definitely, yes. I don't want to go another way, it should be looking as Ars as possible. AN is more or less like Minecraft in terms of pixel density right? Only more 'detailed' with animations

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In that case I guess I actually need to double the size of all the pixels 😅

gleaming parrot
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Yeah the pixel size would just be the default size of a texture you put onto a normal cube in blockbench. Usually you get mixels when you manually change the texture size or inflate the cubes themselves.

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Mixels aren't completely bad but they should be as unnoticeable as possible and only used if there isn't another way to do something. Even vanilla MC has mixels sometimes.

covert topaz
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I really like it, but I'm no designer, so I won't notice anything that could be improved. I will however ping @orchid rover who designed all the other Additions items, if they'd be able to provide feedback

rough geode
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are the charms crafteable? If so, where can i find the recipes? Jei is not showing any additions recipes and neither is the book.

covert topaz
rough geode
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oh, that would be it then. I never install beta versions in the pack just in case it causes weirdness. I'll give it a try, ty

covert topaz
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JEI stable version is super out of date for some reason, like 80 versions outdated

rough geode
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yikes

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it did indeed fix that

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Now im just going crazy trying to fix sky blocks but that's another story xd

lucid plover
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I like that staff as is personally.

rough geode
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I put a reliquary in a chest to use it as a psedo scroll for blink location. The reliquary is just gone. It was set to a player. Did I do something wrong? Does it have to be stabilized somehow first?

covert topaz
rough geode
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but multiple on locations?

covert topaz
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Yes, different amounts

rough geode
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oooh nice. ty. Do you have any idea if it can be "automated"? I tried on a rune next to a chest but that doesnt work cause the rune cant use recall since it needs touch. And on a turrent it just spent the reliquary

covert topaz
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I mean it'll only spend the reliquary on a player

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Because it's 1 use

rough geode
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im trying to make a nexus where players can set their own locations and allow other players to join them while exploring. It is a small server and we have no grieving

covert topaz
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If you use the turret with a location, it'll work more

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I mean you can just edit the config values if you want

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Reliquaries bound to players only last 5 minutes by default anyway, so you'll want to extend that

mystic crown
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Did the reliquary work for that use, but just one use being the problem?

rough geode
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ooh yeah Ill have to, for sure

rough geode
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Im trying to figure out if the turrent can make it so another player can use it with just a click regardless of their tier

covert topaz
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Ah right yeah

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I don't think it'll be possible, not without something like Swap Caster from Omega

mystic crown
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Are you able to set a reliquary by using a reliquary? In which case, giving them 5 uses would allow you to automate the whole thing without just setting it to infinite use on players

covert topaz
rough geode
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I didnt get that part

covert topaz
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You can't use Recall to Mark another reliquary is what Zieg was asking

rough geode
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and why would the turret thing not work? It does with scrolls :S

mystic crown
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Can't target a reliquary, cast recall (so the targeting is the player of the reliquary) and then cast Mark to set a second reliquary to the original player

covert topaz
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Recall sets the target of the spell, Scrolls don't set the target of the spell.

mystic crown
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Need the test server online so I can play with those and multiple players

covert topaz
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Turret with touch blink and a scroll in the inventory targets the player infront of it and uses the scroll for information.
Turret with recall blink will target the location with the spell, but not the player infront of it

rough geode
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sigh so it wont work at all?

covert topaz
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I don't think so

mystic crown
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What about rune with recall blink?

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How does it handle who is what target?

covert topaz
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Recall is a method, Runes only use Touch

rough geode
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rune needs touch and recall is also a form

mystic crown
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Can you not even apply recall on a rune? Huh. Hadn't considered that

covert topaz
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Blink has two use cases:
Teleport the Caster to the Target
OR
Teleport the Target to the Scroll

mystic crown
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Setting with a scroll, I know you don't need rune in the scroll to apply it to a rune, just touch. So makes sense I suppose

covert topaz
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recall sets the target, but the caster stays as the turret

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So you can have a button to call someone back to base:
recall blink with a scroll in a chest

mystic crown
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So can bring the adventurer to the hub, but not a player to the adventurer

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I'm still not giving up on this mission, Eryhnar

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Is there a spell or potion in ars/add-ons that prevents teleportation?

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Recall, block teleports, exchange or something like that

mystic crown
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In theory to take the player who cast it to the player, but not do the exchange on that side

covert topaz
mystic crown
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You said you can get this system to work casting by hand, but that obviously needs the player to have the ability to cast the spell

covert topaz
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Aha! Put it on imbued spell parchments

mystic crown
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Spell binder is one option to avoid needing the t3

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Oh yeah

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Or reactive tools

rough geode
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enderference is a potion tho

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I can set it around the hub but that would prevent teleports in and out

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the binder is so far the closest we have

covert topaz
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Imbued Spell Parchments should work

rough geode
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yes but that would limit the uses wouldnt it?

covert topaz
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Would be a single use per parchment yes

rough geode
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For now I'll go ahead with the binder option since can be used more in case players separate mid exploration

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Will try to think of a way that prevents carrying 15 reliquaries xd

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the mark would still run out tho if im reading this correctly? 900 is the max it can be set to?

mystic crown
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Can you set to -1?

rough geode
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might be able to but the comment says 0-900

mystic crown
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Or 0 probably

rough geode
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i rather ask before I mess up xd

covert topaz
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Try 0

rough geode
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0 instantly breaks it

covert topaz
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Welp, I thought I added unlimited

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900 is at least 15 minutes though

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and mark can be used with a sensitive rune

rough geode
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that would still mean having to set it right before someone wants to join you unless each trip exploring takes less than 15 min which is unlikely

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I will try -1 and see

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if not, we will have to stick to portalling back and forth each time

covert topaz
rough geode
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for 15 min only, no?

covert topaz
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Yeah but you can make them on-demand

rough geode
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ah, I see

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so the rune can set a mark into a nearby inventory?

covert topaz
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Should be able to I think

rough geode
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touch rune sensitive mark applies the mark on a reliquary in the inventory of the caster of the rune not in the inventory next to the rune. Which i guess should be expected since sensitive says it uses the caster's inventory

covert topaz
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Ah, only thing that could then do it is Handy Haversack depositing it back in a central location :S

rough geode
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yeah. But that would still be the same setup as using warp scrolls but requiring higher tier

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thank you for all your time

orchid rover
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@cyan root Gotta admit I'm really impressed with your 3D designing o.o
As a design itself it does look really cool however, for ars additions I've been trying to match the art style of the base mod Ars like Goobuncle said. Also as they said the mixels also need to be resolved.

For suggestions on where to go from here if you'd like to continue to work on it;

  • Aligning all the bits and pieces so that they follow the same angle. In current ars bow's and sword they are all aligned except for the singular parts that spin like on the ars bow/crossbow.
  • Sticking to the same colour palette as the rest of the ars bow's and sword
  • Making all the pixels follow the 16px format

thats all I can think of for now, but feel free to ping me 👌

latent linden
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what is the staff meant to do ?

covert topaz
latent linden
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ah cool

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maybe too much to ask but it will go very well with elemental armor

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i imagine the top cube becomes a fireball like thing for pyromancer

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maybe even a color pallete swap will suffice

mystic crown
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Set it like the gems in existing enchanters gear, taking the spell color

covert topaz
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I think just having it color based on spell color

latent linden
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that would be good yes

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you know how all great old mages are depicted as have staves, I somewhat picture it like that

cyan root
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How's this? 🙂

open dragon
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a lot more in style

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unsure if the stave's purple part was better in vertical with some color variations

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not a fan of the banding

cyan root
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Not sure about the banding either, I think that works better in a higher resolution texture

open dragon
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The first version of that part of the texture wasn't ok?

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If you drop the texture and geo model later this afternoon I can try give a preview of how it would look with tinting

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I'll just kill the saturation of those parts

cyan root
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Is it possible to do it with tinting instead of having 16 textures?

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Yep, that's better

open dragon
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I would grayscale the handle and the gem so geckolib adds color to it at runtime

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That's how the sword & co work

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We don't use for many other things because it's a very high saturation coloring that may look bad on some textures

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Relays for instance

cyan root
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TIL relays can be colored

open dragon
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That was an experiment, before Wololo

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Jarva made wololo change only the bursts

lucid plover
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I'm assuming the staff will be 2-handed and disallow offhand use?

covert topaz
open dragon
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If it ends up being too incompatible with other mods, you can always make it a versatile weapon

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Can be wielded both ways but will be stronger with offhand free

sullen orchid
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I'm very curious what that staff will look like in first person

cyan root
rough geode
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that staff is looking sick!

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@mystic crown I think I figured out a way

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touch rune sensitive exchange blink. Weirdly this does not exchange you at all if you dont have a scroll in the inventory. If you do it sends the caster of the rune to the player activating the rune and the player activating it to the scroll location. Otherwise it brings them to you

orchid rover
# cyan root How's this? 🙂

Definitely heading in the right direction!

  • I agree about the stripes, maybe change them.
  • Again try and place everything but the part that spins on the same grid/angle (not sure how to word it, like some pieces are diagonal)
lucid plover
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What's the recipe for the ritual of arcane permanence? Not showing on the Wiki for me with Additions selected and not showing in JEI/EMI in 1.21.1 right now.

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Nevermind, used my brain and did a Search to see that it has to be enabled in the Config. 💀

covert topaz
rough geode
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by the way

#Ritual of Arcane Permanence
[chunkloading]
#Should the ritual cost source?
has_cost = false
#Should the ritual cost be continuous?
repeat_cost = true
#How much source should it cost to run the ritual?
# Default: 10000
# Range: 1 ~ 10000
cost = 10000
#How often should the ritual cost source? (in ticks, defaults to 1 in-game day)
# Default: 24000
# Range: > 1
interval = 24000
#How far should the ritual chunk-load? (in chunks, 0 = 1x1, 1 = 3x3, 2 = 5x5, 3 = 7x7, 4 = 9x9)
# Default: 0
# Range: > 0
initial_radius = 0
#Should the radius be able to be increased with an item?
radius_incremental = false
#What item is required to increase the chunk-loading radius?
radius_increment_item = "ars_nouveau:source_gem_block"
#What's the maximum amount of augmented increases the ritual should accept?
# Default: 1
# Range: > 1
radius_increment_max = 1
#Should the ritual require the player who started it to be online?
require_online = false
#How many rituals should players be able to run?
# Default: 2147483647
# Range: > 1
max_rituals = 2147483647
#Should the server log when a chunk is loaded/unloaded?
log_chunkloading = false

that is not keeping the chunk loaded for some reason

covert topaz
rough geode
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will do. Now server is at peak so I will do it tomorrow during maintenance

rough geode
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nevermind. Found the issue. It is asking for source even though is set to has_cost = false

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It had been running for a while with no issues and has source right next to it as well despite not needing it cos it is in the hub. So i have no idea why A it says it needs if because of the settings and B because of the source nearby

lucid plover
rough geode
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I reset the ritual and it happened again. what is going on?

covert topaz
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I've recently experienced something similar with my Wixie Enchanting Apparatus on ATM10, suspecting there may be some update that broke it

rough geode
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The issue for us is that the ritual is at our hub. All teleporters, farms and the storage lectern are there so it all stops as soon as the ritual randomly shuts down.

languid relic
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how does the source spawner work? i cant really find docs on it

covert topaz
lucid plover
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My Ritual of Arcane Permanence doesn't seem to be needing any Source to stay active.

rough geode
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mine didnt before either but it does now... despite having source nearby and having the config set to not need source. It is very weird

lucid plover
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Ah forgot about the Config, mine may be set to not consume.

lucid plover
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Hmmm well only Source consume setting is in Server section and I have that on. Maybe the Interval just hasn't hit yet.

rough geode
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Maybe. Mine is set to not consume and not periodic cost and still turns off. Weird thing is nothing, literally nothing has moved in that whole area and it used to work just last week.

lucid plover
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Just realized my brazier isn't terribly far from my primary source supplier and not more than 5 blocks below an agronomic sourcelink so it's probably drawing on one of those 2.

covert topaz
rough geode
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Mine is literally in front of the source battery as the image shows and on the side where my character is I have the mycellial generators with the agronomics being right under it... It really should not be stopping. It is not drawing any source at all tho. But like I said, it should not even need to since the config is set to not need it.

covert topaz
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Yeah, I've noticed some issues with items drawing source, there were some changes to source jars recently, so I need to investigate if that's caused the problem

rough geode
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Is there anything I can do so it actually costs nothing? I tried reinstalling. Restoring. I tried modifying the config again. Deleting the config back ups in case for some reason they were interfering... Nothing

lucid plover
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I'll look into my game later and make sure it's draining like it should, staying active with source provided, etc. and hopefully I can provide some facts instead of conjecture

covert topaz
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Are you changing the config when the server is off?

rough geode
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I am, yes. Otherwise the config just resets

mystic crown
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Jarva, what was the reason that only the first player at a Nexus gets the scroll?

covert topaz
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Mainly just not wanting to keep track of whether a player had looted a specific nexus

sullen orchid
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if someone hasn't used the Nexus and they come across one someone already found, they won't know what to do with it at all

covert topaz
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that's true

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I want rework the Nexus system anyway

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Make them more common

mystic crown
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Or be able to do anything with it if they don't already have a handful of scrolls

covert topaz
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I want to make a Shady wizard villager house that houses a Warp Nexus

mystic crown
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Mostly ask because on the test server at the moment, I think almost all of them within the border is already discovered, so we have to find out who might have that scroll so we can make copies. Or else just only use regular warp scrolls

sullen orchid
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yeah like I had a moment of confusion with the Warp Nexus in the library, because I had only touched them in single player before

mystic crown
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I guess I just need to remember to bring standard warp scrolls with me. I have a few now at least. But I need to set up transit

rough geode
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Hey so I reset the ritual of permanence for the 20th time and it now stays on BUT it is consuming source despite the config being still set to not consume. Is there really no way I can make it respect the config file?

covert topaz
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It's strange, I can't see anything in the code that would require source

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Can you send me your modpack? Have you made any server changes? Is it pure Neoforge?

rough geode
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the modpack is called aelith

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no changes to the server, no.

covert topaz
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Can you link it to me?

rough geode
covert topaz
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And server runs the exact same pack? No server pack?

rough geode
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Nope, it is the exact same one just for simplicity

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I can send you a screen of the server config file

covert topaz
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And are you able to replicate it on singleplayer? Or just server

rough geode
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I have not tried

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Ill check now

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it stopped after 1 day

covert topaz
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Ah, you did a tick sprint?

rough geode
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just to get through the day yeah

hybrid raven
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How do propagates work in the context of recall?

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Like what would we expect :recall: :propagate-projectile: blink to do?

covert topaz
hybrid raven
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So what you're saying is: infinite wireless redstone spell book with no mana cost for me!

covert topaz
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Yes, except that recall uses the durability of the reliquary

covert topaz
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Should the ritual cost be continuous?

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this thingy

rough geode
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#Ritual of Arcane Permanence
[chunkloading]
#Should the ritual cost source?
has_cost = false
#Should the ritual cost be continuous?
repeat_cost = false
#How much source should it cost to run the ritual?
# Default: 10000
# Range: 1 ~ 10000
cost = 10000
#How often should the ritual cost source? (in ticks, defaults to 1 in-game day)
# Default: 24000
# Range: > 1
interval = 24000
#How far should the ritual chunk-load? (in chunks, 0 = 1x1, 1 = 3x3, 2 = 5x5, 3 = 7x7, 4 = 9x9)
# Default: 0
# Range: > 0
initial_radius = 1
#Should the radius be able to be increased with an item?
radius_incremental = false
#What item is required to increase the chunk-loading radius?
radius_increment_item = "ars_nouveau:source_gem_block"
#What's the maximum amount of augmented increases the ritual should accept?
# Default: 1
# Range: > 1
radius_increment_max = 1
#Should the ritual require the player who started it to be online?
require_online = false
#How many rituals should players be able to run?
# Default: 2147483647
# Range: > 1
max_rituals = 2147483647
#Should the server log when a chunk is loaded/unloaded?
log_chunkloading = false

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I did change it forgot to update you on that but it has not changed anything for us

covert topaz
rough geode
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dont worry for now. If you could not see anything that might be causing the issue

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I have decided that since its a bug It will be running on creative source for now. Also next week up going to push an update to the pack and do a clean install of the server so let's hope that fixes it.

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Oh and turns out that if I run the ritual in creative it takes gets the "needs source" thing but actually takes it. If I run the ritual in survival it just wont work at all after the first day

covert topaz
hybrid raven
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So I got a computercraft based teleport system going using mark and recall.

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If we ever migrate to a version of this where we can't get infinite reliquaries but the reliquaries can be recharged, that's workable. Similarly, you could adapt this (probably) to simply restock from a pool of reliquaries.

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Also, you can use this with propagate shapes to trigger spells at site, as we discussed. Wireless redstone becoming a way to trigger spells (and even, to some extent, complicated or big spells) without using the caster's mana.

mystic crown
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Uh oh.. cc and turrets

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Only evil will come from this

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at least if I have any say

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Ok imagine you've got a big network of prisms. Popped into place with pistons controlled by cc

covert topaz
hybrid raven
#

that said, like, if we made it rechage like a charm then I could literally put the imbuer next to the turret and we could tune this based on a source tax.

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😄

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But I think this mechanic is really cool and the only kinda sad part is that there's no way to actuate this in Ars Additions.

covert topaz
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What do you mean?

hybrid raven
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So my computer is the control signal.

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It does the hard work fo figuring out what scroll I mean.

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And that's cool, it's a fun build and I enjoyed it

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But there's no reason i couldn't make one turret per destination (this is a sender config, but imagine a receiver config)

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But imagine if we had some sort of simple from-inventory wireless redstone pairing so that I could trigger reliquary driven spells.

mystic crown
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Allowing the reliquary to repair in a chamber would be really nice

covert topaz
mystic crown
hybrid raven
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Like if there were prisms and prism blocks, for the 16 colors.

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And if you tap the prism, every prism block in the world ticks a redstone pulse.

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Then with that and recall/mark, you could make all sorts of absolute madness.

covert topaz
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That could be cool

hybrid raven
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"Summon the Council" (taps purple prism)

mystic crown
hybrid raven
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"Defend the keep!" (taps pink prism, wolves spawn everywhere around me)

hybrid raven
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Like

sullen orchid
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quantum linked prisms

covert topaz
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I like the idea of magical sound crystals that trigger frequencies to emit the trigger

mystic crown
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Eye with projectile that's aimed at prisms

hybrid raven
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Yeah you could DEFINITELY use this with the scrying crystal.

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And I considered doing this.

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We like already kinda have functionality to do some of this

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What's neat is that this goes backwarsds, I don't go to the crystal, it comes to me. 🙂

covert topaz
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You could also alternatively have different reliquaries bound to the trigger points and cast recall redstone_signal with them

hybrid raven
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Can you?

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I thought reliquaries targetted entities.

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I mean I guess "The Redstone Chicken" is an idea.

covert topaz
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They can target locations

hybrid raven
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Okay.

covert topaz
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They have three types: location, entity and player

hybrid raven
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So we could do it.

covert topaz
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Each uses different durability

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By default players are 1 use, entities have 10 uses and locations have 100 uses

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I think, don't quote me

hybrid raven
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yeah.

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Well anyways it's possible to do it a few ways in Ars.

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I'm just saying, a kind of elegant way to do it would be cool tool. Juggling reliquaries is about as satisfying as juggling warp scrolls, which is to say: not very. Part of the reason i build this stupid contraption was to avoid having to do that because it feels so silly 🙂

covert topaz
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Yeah that's understansable

hybrid raven
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Huh, surprising.

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You can't use player reliquaries interdimensionally, huh?

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that is a bit of a bummer for my little teleport build.

covert topaz
hybrid raven
#

Hmm. That does make things more complicated.

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Workable, still

lucid plover
#

Oh you sneaky sneaky sneaky varmint Jarva, I finally found an additional secret at a Nexus Tower...

mystic crown
#

Is it the parkour challenge to get up instead of just pillaring with scaffold?

lucid plover
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It involves illusion blocks.

mystic crown
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I still haven't actually seen one with a secret. I guess unless it's up in the tree. I hollowed one out in my test world as a base

orchid rover
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:} Not every tower has the secret, you gotta get lucky too

cyan root
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The secret involving a set of arcanist gear, or more than that?

lucid plover
#

Let's just say I didn't need to pile dirt to the portal landing of the tower to get access to the chamber with the goodies.

runic iris
#

The extra mirrorweave was a nice discovery.

lucid plover
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That's the secret yes.

lucid plover
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Hmmm is there a convenient way to name a Nexus Warp Scroll?

mystic crown
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Self name, with the scroll in offhand

last rivet
#

Am I supposed to keep the nexus warp scrolls inside of the towers? Or am I supposed to take it home with me?

mystic crown
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All nexi share the same per-player inventory. And can teleport for free to any of the scrolls in it

lucid plover
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You can rename them on an anvil before you stick them back inside so you know where they lead in the teleport destination interface.

covert topaz
lucid plover
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Another tip is so long as you don't break the actual nexus apparatus and move it the teleport is always free of cost. However you can break it and move it to someplace you need it more and you can make it work at the new location just fine so long as you provide a source supply.

meager lily
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Unstable reliquary is crossdimension?

covert topaz
#

Nope

manic edge
#

fair

meager lily
# covert topaz Nope

can you get ritual of chunkloading from first trade or you have to levelup a shady wizard

covert topaz
#

Not sure

mystic crown
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Rituals are later. First trade is usually berries/fruit for emeralds, or emeralds for berry rolls

manic edge
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can confirm

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also can we talk about how shady traders trade some wildly useful stuff

north valve
#

@covert topaz quick question, if I had given to a mob (for example a zombie) a backpack from Sophisticated Backpacks with some loot inside it (like an armor with some mediocre enchants for a server event I'm planning), then got it in a Containment Jar and hooked it on a Source Spawner, would the mobs spawning from the Source Spawner have the Sophisticated Backpacks and loot on them?

covert topaz
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It shouldn't, no

supple coral
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Reason: it's not a regular drop, present in the game files. Rather it's an item that will be dropped on death. Same as a shovel or any other item in their hand

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I think that's also what happens with some bosses, because of which they can't be farmed this way

lucid plover
#

Jarva I have to say that the additions you've created for Ars are fast making you the MVP in my book. The Handy Haversack alone is amazing especially paired with a Nexus Tower base at my spawn point.

honest hollow
#

Hey, I absolutely love the thing with Wixies and enchanting apparatuses! One small issue I've noticed is that Starbuncle Charms crafted by a Wixie won't stack with Starbuncle Charms that I crafted manually. I'll have to check which version of Ars and Ars Additions Craftoria uses, please don't let me forget lol

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This isn't a matter of Patreon 'buncles, I was mass crafting off of normal 'bunc tokens

covert topaz
honest hollow
cyan root
honest hollow
#

TYVM! I literally just left the server when I saw your message, but I'll look into it when I get back on!

honest hollow
covert topaz
honest hollow
runic iris
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What happens if you turn a charm with "damage = 0" NBT into a starbuncle and dispel it back into a charm? Do you still have the weird damage NBT on it? Ho wabout the wixie ones? Do they gain that data?

honest hollow
honest hollow
lucid plover
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Jarva is there a hardcoded limit to how many ender source jars a player can have in use at the same time?

open dragon
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probably only a practical limit

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since they only can only draw/fill a certain amount, and all jars share the same in/out

lucid plover
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That's what I was thinking. If you stick one on each of like 8 different mycelials being fed by an archfruit farm then any bottleneck would be relatively nil when using them to feed drygmy farms, etc.

mystic crown
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They share the in/out though. So if you've got one output that's drawing a lot, other outputs won't be able to draw as much

lucid plover
#

Good to know, thanks!

elder dirge
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ritual of arcane permanence is crashing anyone who looks at the ritual pedestal

covert topaz
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Can you provide the logs?

elder dirge
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im effectively chunkbanned cause i crash immediately whenever i log on as im stuck looking at it

covert topaz
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I'll investigate, and send over a fixed jar asap

unborn mulch
#

Requires LootJS

flat hull
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my best guess is that youre on some weird setup like LAN or something

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i did find an unrelated crash though

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fixes the unrelated crash and checks for server a bit differently

sly jetty
#

Not particularly bothered by it since I have short term immunity to fire/lava, but this is the first time an Ars Addition structure warp scroll has teleported me four blocks deep into a lava pool
Just want to note that that can happen loool

covert topaz
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Oof, I'll double check the logic on this

sly jetty
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Don't know if it matters, but I'm on the Craftoria modpack (I was yearning, pining for a pack with both Ars and Integrated Dynamics)

covert topaz
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Can you provide a seed? And potentially the co-ords of the portal you used?

sly jetty
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Sorry, was afk
1532, 141, -4371
792849446

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Also might not be that deep in the lava pool, might just be above it; I do lag a bit when loading stuff

covert topaz
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I'll investigate when I get a chance, thank you

glossy ravine
#

Craftoria seems to do a lotta weird stuff

sly jetty
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Yeah actually, I kept seeing people talking about stuff happening in Craftoria here (this server in general) and that's one of the reasons I'm playing this; I want to see weird frk happening for myself lool

honest hollow
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TBF, it seems that Craftoria players focus on Ars a lot more than ATM players

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In any given ATM let's play I've seen, Ars is only really used for whatever it's necessary for in progressing the questbook/getting to the ATM star

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Whereas for Craftoria players? Ars is one of the best damn utility mods we've ever used

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But that's just my view

sly jetty
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The quests also have an amount of Ars handholding explanations I've never seen before
There are several that are just checkmark quests for you to read, and they give full examples of glyph combinations and what they do
So maybe Craftoria players just get to know it a bit better from outset?

covert topaz
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Potentially, I know craftoria is the only pack with the Arcane permanence ritual enabled

manic edge
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haha

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it's odd though

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they have ftb chunks

sullen orchid
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hm. Bit odd to have both, I agree... FTB chunks sets a limit on how many chunks each player can load, don't think there's a limit on rituals though?

manic edge
#

i've been playing on craftoria for a bit

sullen orchid
#

unless Jarva did put something in the config for that

manic edge
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but the new update is a bit laggy for me so i might drop it

#

there is some mod that adds a lot of symbols to most items for some reason

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it might be

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wait hold on

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could it be...

sly jetty
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Replication

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I know it because it's on enigmatica

manic edge
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i thought it was the 1.21 thaumcraft mod

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for a sec

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good to know

#

also

sly jetty
#

Hahaha I could see that

manic edge
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REPLICATION?!

sly jetty
#

Want to bring this to #off-topic ?

elder dirge
#

i was long since immune to lava tho

sly jetty
#

That's pretty funny; I imagine everyone playing Craftoria just ends up porting into lava at some point and is just like, oh, interesting

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LOL

late saddle
covert topaz
late saddle
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[net.minecraft.world.item.crafting.RecipeManager/]: Skipping loading recipe ars_additions:ritual/ritual_chunk_loading as it's serializer returned null

covert topaz
late saddle
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ah thank you

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didnt know

sly jetty
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Thinking of Apothic Enchanting adds more levels to every enchantment; you'd probably be able to put like T6 or T7 thread slots in non-ars armor

covert topaz
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That would probably cause a crash currently

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I'll make a change for next version that caps it to the available thread levels

late saddle
#

how do we currently get above t3?

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there's a thread that says i need t5 or higher and all my gear only goes up to t3 slots

covert topaz
late saddle
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Oh gotcha

covert topaz
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I'm cleaning up the structures on the explorer warp scroll, any other suggestions for what should be here?

this.tag(ON_EXPLORER_WARP_SCROLL)
  .addTag(MONUMENT)
  .addTag(DESERT_TEMPLE)
  .addTag(JUNGLE_TEMPLE)
  .addTag(STRONGHOLD)
  .addTag(ANCIENT_CITY)
  .addTag(PILLAGER_OUTPOST)
  .addTag(IGLOO)
  .addTag(WITCH_HUT)
  .addTag(StructureTagProvider.WILDEN_DEN)
  .add(structure("nexus_tower"));

I've removed Trail Ruins, Shipwrecks, Ocean Ruins and Villages

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Just added Arcane Library

sly jetty
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Hm, woodland mansion? Only thought of that upon seeing pillager outpost

covert topaz
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Good idea

flat hull
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igloo seems a bit meh

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well witch huts too tbh

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but still more useful than igloos

covert topaz
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Igloos have their uses, especially with mods like end remastered

river prairie
runic iris
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I wonder if the Witch Hut will trigger on Hexerei witch huts. Those are pretty much like finding an Ars Library, propelling you into mid-game Hexerei instantly.

covert topaz
river prairie
finite lintel
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Hi, can i ask what is the nexus tower?

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Nevermind, i understood

ancient night
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where are the augments to find specific structures lsited ? or must we guess? /genuine question

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i guessed a cod for ocean and was right, and could guess a few more i suppose :P

ancient night
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thanks!

rose surge
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I'm not sure if this has been asked, but is there any way to automate casting with a reliquary?

rose surge
covert topaz
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Reliquary in a chest next to it

rose surge
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that's... surprisingly simple

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ty dev

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for further clarification, turrets can't cast recall, can they?

covert topaz
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They can

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If they can't, you're on an older version

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If you're on 1.19.2 then you're out of luck

rose surge
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No, I just couldn't test rn. Thank you, Jarva

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I'm gonna pump so many spells into myself with redstone I'll need tabs for the effects

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Also had the idea of packaging reliquaries linked to me and using the new Create update to route them

covert topaz
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You may wish to adjust the reliquary config. By default they will break after one cast on a player

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And they only bind to a player for 5 minutes

rose surge
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oh, I see why people don't do this

covert topaz
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Feel free to edit the config, the defaults are there to avoid abuse on servers

rose surge
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ty vm anyway, Jarva

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o/

ancient night
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is it just too far?

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or am i missing something? >,.,<

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in 1.20.1

ancient night
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im guessing cuz it cant find one, but its enabled in configs and i've now travelled like thousands and thousands of blocks in each direction of spawn ;-;

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testing as i go

covert topaz
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Do you have terrablender installed?

covert topaz
ancient night
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oofies

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thanks for the tip.

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and i FOROGOT terrablender. been a bit since i set up a darn server, i pout. thanks a bunch <3

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ty !!

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THIS IS A STRUCTURE
wow

open dragon
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yep, that's what Ars structures needs to be like

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we have the weaves and runes, it's a waste to not have them in structures like how the library is

glossy ravine
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And there are so many hidden secrets

runic iris
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There are so many obvious and annoying traps.

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I put an Ars 'starter house' on Blockprints and it has quite a few falseweave walls and back passages. But nothing like the level of "OMG another rotate rune! Really!!!!" that the library has.

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The library has that combination of run-down asthetic and the impression that the abandonment was done in haste while the residents were trapping the place to the walls on the way out.

ancient night
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It's so good. It's safe now. And lit. Just need to clean out the cobwebs.

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I was on the lookout for runes from the second I set foot inside.

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It was a blast of an endeavour.

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Thanks for the work you did on it btw!

unborn mulch
patent iron
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Is that tower at the height limit? At least it was only the leaves

flat hull
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null server again somehow

unborn mulch
covert topaz
rose surge
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Jarva! Sorry for bothering again, but how would I get the crafted item from a wixie enchanting apparatus without it dropping as an entity?

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I'm trying to hopper it down, and am failing miserably.

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For clarification, I'm trying to automate reliquary crafting

covert topaz
glossy ravine
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Item collectors from Justdirethings work wonderfully

mystic crown
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Bonus points is that you could automate it without the wixie and be able to do exactly what you wanted with extracting it from the bottom with a hopper!

rose surge
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Would there be a way to automate the enchanting apparatus with the deployer?

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Either I'll do that or use a fan to vacuum it, honestly

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I want to keep the automation not as CPU intensive as it'd be if I had a bunch of starbuncles

glossy ravine
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If its only asthetic youre worried about you can hide the collector.

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if it is role-play youre worried about, the dire one is "magic", and picks up the item before it even renders, helping proformance

rose surge
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hm... I'll give it a look

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I need to check what exactly I'd be automating beyond unstable reliquaries

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my main worry is a lot of enchanting apparatus modules taking too much CPU load, but if I don't have to make a hundred... I might just deal with the impact from one or two

runic iris
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Don't forget that you can put the core beside the apparatus and even the pedestals can be turned into platforms hat only need to be anywhere in a 7x7x7 space. Even floating mid-air.

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Sadly, you cannot put the apparatus bellow the core.

covert topaz
runic iris
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Unless that RP hasn't been merged, that test was on the server with the latest from Bailey today.

flat hull
runic iris
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Also, looks mighty cursed to do that setup, but it worked. Made a warper relay.

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I was about to claim upside down worked, too. But I had to test.

flat hull
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btw 1 core can share 2 apparatuses

runic iris
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Now, that's mighty cursed. Can one be an Ars Additions Wixie Apparatus?

flat hull
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depends on jarva

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actually wixie enchanting doesnt even need a core does it

runic iris
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Cursed and cool. Note that you have to be really particular about putting down that apparatus - it has to be placed while looking at the core to get it to 'stick'

flat hull
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upside down works fine in dev env

runic iris
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Let me try some things

flat hull
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align the arcane core lol

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it must be on the same axis

runic iris
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yeah, that only works if the squares side of the core and the purple part of the appartus face each other.

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So you have to fiddle it into place if you are not careful.

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Also, it makes the items upside down:

flat hull
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mhm

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i spent like 20 minutes making that work because im complete shit at rendering lol

runic iris
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Details man. Details. Shows quality work.

flat hull
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its just not that useful

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too much space required and itll look awkward

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the pedestals will have to be at the range limit otherwise theyll interfere

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just kinda yikes all around

runic iris
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I have a new chandelier for my nexus tower.

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Dual hanging crafting apparati? apparatuses?

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I mean, you could setup automation to double speed craft.

flat hull
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as if it wasnt hard enough with a single apparatus :p

runic iris
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Odd, when I have the normal HUD up, I'm seeing the outline of the Wixie's cauldron model on the Wixie's Apparatus.

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I hope it doesn't have something to do with the Wixie taking a vacation in the solid stone roof for funsies.

flat hull
runic iris
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IDK. Not really something easy to test with it being a block bellow the ceiling.

runic iris
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Yep. You can get stuck on the little sideways staircase corner but not the others. So it in fact has the same model as the cauldron.

covert topaz
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Yeah, I never overwrote the collision box

cursive dock
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cannot update mod via prism launcher. i downloaded it from curse, and it said it was from "unknown" provider.

unsure if this is useful in any way, but here it is

covert topaz
cursive dock
covert topaz
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Try remove it and refetch?

cursive dock
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it does show up correctly if i try to use the download tool

covert topaz
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Strange

cursive dock
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downloading from the lancher correctly marks it

covert topaz
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Yeah it's probably because it's changing provider and acting up

ancient night
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,.,<

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i broke the brazier before the Permanence ritual was started because it wasnt in the right spot , and usually you'd get your tablet back andstuff.. instead it coirrupted my server!

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(side note, any idea how to fix this?)

covert topaz
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Install neruina or enable the (neo)forge config to remove erroring block entities

ancient night
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thank you!

ancient night
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nvm setblock seems to have worked

runic iris
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Got my updated "Nexus of Seasons" ready to do the custom tree tops.

ancient night
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pretty

mystic crown
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So.. general questions on the reliquary because I'm not at my computer to actually get to play with it myself.

Mark sets the target. Recall calls back that target as the target for the rest of the spell. Recall damages the reliquary by default, depending on what the target is?

covert topaz
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Correct

mystic crown
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And if that's a player, it's default to one use?

covert topaz
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Correct, player also has an additional stipulation that they need to have the "Marked" effect on them, which defaults to lasting 5 minutes, and can be dispelled.

mystic crown
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Ok.. so my use case I'm looking at here is designing a new WARPS 3.0.
My quick thought was give all users a scry enchanters eye thing to access a control lectern in spawn chunks. Each eye assigned to a player. Use a reliquary to then target that player with a blink spell to their selected destination

covert topaz
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The amount of damage on the reliquary and the effect duration of Marked is configurable

mystic crown
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But that wouldn't work without getting new reliquaries on each use, and the marked effect

covert topaz
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It's not supposed to, but people have mentioned that you can use Mark at the end of a spell to renew the reliquary

mystic crown
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Though perhaps making the player mark themselves with a reliquary and depositing that with the destination request....

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Hmm. But you'd still need marked status to allow yourself to be targeted by the blink spell in this case

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So you could maybe abuse that mark at the end to reset the reliquary and allow it to be reused.. but the player would need to have "marked" status regardless, and that will expire after a time

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My hope was to remove the client warp stations entirely, and instead use an eye to send the blink directly to the player regardless of their current location

covert topaz
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A player could mark themselves and deposit it with a handy haversack, and then it'll be valid for 5 minutes from then

mystic crown
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Does the reliquary expire, or just the player status?

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Like could I mark the reliquary and keep it at the hub, and then the player would just need a self mark spell to set their own status?

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And can you get the marked status without a reliquary in your inventory?

Swing the eye around until reactive self mark triggers, then open the UI, drop your destination selection into that tab. Hub casts recall blink mark to abuse that reusing the reliquary thing

covert topaz
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The reliquary would unbind when the player status expires

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Anyone can mark a player, including a spell turret and they will received the marked status

mystic crown
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Yeah but the idea is the player is at some random place in the world

covert topaz
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Whoever marks the player must have a reliquary though

mystic crown
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Ideally without needing to mark and send in a reliquary first

covert topaz
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Easiest option would be for the player to mark themselves, deposit the reliquary into the tab and have the turret use recall blink on them

mystic crown
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Though I guess a self mark on the eye, and the player carries a reliquary. Yeah that

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Recall toss blink, to give them another reliquary for next time

covert topaz
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makes sense, you'll need to check whether the reliquary breaks when the recall happens or if it's possible to toss it

mystic crown
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I need to look at what it would cost to make reliquaries as well I suppose. So there's always a supply at the hub

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Yeah would need to see the order of events there

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Or if mark toss with two reliquaries in the inventory would work to use one (marked) and give the player a second

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With the third item in the inventory being the warp scroll

covert topaz
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Pretty cheap

mystic crown
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And when they run out, they break? Or unbind?

covert topaz
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They break

runic iris
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That's dirt cheap for midgame, which is where something like WARPS is going to be most vaiuable, I'd think.

mystic crown
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Yeah the main pain is needing all that in a tiny footprint at spawn

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Could trivially have a resources tab in the eye though to monitor stock and just have a common pool of resources to pull from to make them

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I assume that's apparatus, not chamber right?

covert topaz
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Yeah I believe so

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I plan to make a Haversack block at some point that will work with automation, but I need to get some models/textures made

mystic crown
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That's still 4 items per transport request of consumables...

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Not that they're particularly hard of course... But still

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And I suppose we could still have stations that just send standard warps without always using the recall warps

runic iris
mystic crown
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I was thinking a named repo for the materials, and a sub network pulling from that repo into labeled hoppers or pedestals yeah. and then that hoppering to some storage on the main warps network to be accessible to those with the eye

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Another tab for receiving requests, which sorts the destination request and reliquary to the proper places to be turned into a warp request

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Everything turns into #1342254215245856768

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Anyway. Off topic for this addon other than to say that I think we could make WARPS wireless with the reliquaries. It'll be a bit of back end work on the hub side, but could be an expansion after the base design of it is ready

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Might make a thread for WARPS 3

runic iris
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Yeah, I need to finish the custom trees on my "Nexus of Seasons" so I can publish to blockprints for Javis to grab and fiddle with.

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Has the prototype of the giant trees I was working on for Alex.

runic iris
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Just to be clear, do Explorer's Warp Scrolls have to be thrown into a completed Explorer's Warp Portal Frame? Not just any ol' frame you put up.

covert topaz
runic iris
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So even providing source these scrolls will only work as instant-one-shot transfer.

covert topaz
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I think so for now, I could potentially enable the default method but my goal was to have people rebuild the frames

runic iris
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A lot of the odder portals islands spawn with no portal frame at all. So I tried hand-cooking one with the stone in the chest. They didn't work.

covert topaz
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They should work as long as its within the bounds of the structure

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Can you show a screenshot of the ones that have no frame?

runic iris
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Nice. You blocked inserting Explorer scrolls into the nexus. Smart.

runic iris
covert topaz
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I think it's actually a whitelist so it's blocked automatically

covert topaz
runic iris
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It's just that I have to check all the island in a pretty stupid big area.

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(Also, For what it's worth, if I had swam east instead of west, the first nexus I would have come to had the secret room. Kind of kicking myself after gathering 14 nexus scrolls then finding that on my way back home.)

covert topaz
runic iris
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This isn't one, but might be. It's a 'tree type' that is common on the ocean.

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The lootr chest has an explorer's warp scroll.

covert topaz
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Yeah, you see the trapdoor to the right of the chest

runic iris
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ah, so these tiny islands have 1x1s hidden under trapdoors?

covert topaz
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Yeah haha

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Blame @orchid rover, they wanted to hide one of the portals

runic iris
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that's fine. I was just curious about the mechanics. I tried bringing a few home to setup a 'random fun exploration' room with some portal frames.

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Since manually building a frame on these structures doesn't work, I presume there is more checking than just 'inside the bounding box'.

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(Or the box is pretty specific)

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Kind of boring on a large biome map in the ocean. Always sends you to a random drown temple.

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Anyway, thanks the hint. New and interesting things to explore.

sly jetty
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Can confirm, when there's no ruined portal frame, you can just build your own (or go down the trapdoor)

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I usually just build a small 1x2 for entry xD

runic iris
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That wasn't working on the islands.

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The small 1x2s I made never worked.

sly jetty
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Huh, don't know then; maybe it's distance? Though I assume you've tried making them pretty close to the center already

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Aside from the satisfaction of completing a ruined portal, you can also try just ignoring a visible one and building your own again next time you come across one of those; that also works just as well

runic iris
jade radish
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Is Numeric Mana Charm in 1.21.1? I can't find the recipe

open dragon
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It's not from additions

jade radish
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My bad!

sly jetty
runic iris
runic iris
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So, following Faix's advice:

  1. Made an advanced dominion wand
  2. Clicked to set to Locked Second
  3. Clicked the lectern.
  4. Clicked on a storage with the wand.
    I expected the storage to be added. Instead the storage was opened.
    If I swap to Locked First instead of opening the lectern is 'linked' to the block position like a child lectern and becomes invalid. If I right click nothing happens at all.
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I can use it like a regular dominion wand if I wipe the settings between storage.

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I wonder if I'm behind on Ars Additions.

sly jetty
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Make sure when hovering over the wand, it says locked second; I think when the message "set to locked __" appears, it's actually the opposite

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At least that's my experience with it

mystic crown
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Something I've been meaning to say for weeks. The chat message and the tooltip for the advanced dominion wand don't match

sly jetty
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I had a lot of trouble my first time using the wand because of that, then I saw the tooltip and everything clicked hahaha

runic iris
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Gave up. Going to hand-link 38 chests

covert topaz
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Ah yeah, I still need to fix that, make sure you follow the tooltip not the message

runic iris
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Correction 52 jars and 38 chests. I gotta take a break. I really really needed that Advanced wand to work.

covert topaz
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It does work, just flipped

runic iris
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I think it's just due to running an old version. Checked this modpack and it's running 21.1.4 not 21.2.1.

covert topaz
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Hasn't*

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Apologies it's 2am

runic iris
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And I've got the Flu or something so I'm like half-gone. Been sick all day, so farting around my The Witchery world.

runic iris
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(Yes, I should be finishing up the trees for the Nexus of Seasons and getting back to the Giant and Colossal Archwoods)

runic iris
mystic crown
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I don't know why I decided to do my source storage the way I did

runic iris
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Coolness Facter.

mystic crown
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64 jars. Linked to 4 parallel splitter lines in and 4 out lol

covert topaz
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I want to update the dominion wand with a chain link, that will link all of the same inventory if they're touching

runic iris
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That would make linking repo walls and shulker walls much less annoying.

covert topaz
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Indeed

mystic crown
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#community-creations message

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It does look nice though when flowing

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Though I'm pretty sure only one is currently working

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Repo walls will be solved soon. Though I need to convince Bailey to give us access via the controller

runic iris
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Just have him make it a feature of the scry eye.

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So people have to use it even if they have Additions and the superior Warp solution.

mystic crown
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Current plan sounds like it's just for allowing access to repositories to the lectern by linking to connected repositories, but not allowing any other access, so no starby depositing to a controller to sort into the repos

runic iris
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Which is sad. I had to carefully link all the occultism jars then do a few cycles dispelling stacked starbuncles to get the repos cleared into the jars.

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Forunately the 'buncles keep settings on the charm, so if they get caught trying to move an invalid item, they can be 'refreshed'

mystic crown
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I had 5 minutes or so of watching a starby stare at me going pop pop pop moving everything over to the library

runic iris
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More fun if you stack a bunch of them.

mystic crown
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But then I wouldn't have been able to get clips of items filling shelves

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I am disappointed I missed getting a clip of the old repo emptying though

viral tendon
#

IIRC the domain glyph is from Ars Additions

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What if you used the domain glyph with crafting table glyph with some filter that only ignores you

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In the scenario of a fight, every player inside the domain gets the crafting menu while you can continue using spells XD

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Trolling spell

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Domain expansion: We do a little trolling

covert topaz
viral tendon
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Omg im so sorry

covert topaz
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Domain is from Adam's Ars Plus

hot lanceBOT
viral tendon
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I got them mixed up🤦‍♂️

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mb

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This is so awkward

lucid plover
#

Just as a double-check, if I use a codex before I have a spellbook I do still get the mana increase once I actually have a spellbook, correct?

covert topaz
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Yes

kindred crane
#

How do I use the wand?
I was able to get two locations, but I am not able to link it to the jars and relays

sly jetty
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Here's how the Additions Dominion Wand works (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong; I haven't actually used mine in a while):
Right clicking at nothing toggles between "Locked First" and "Locked Second"; be sure to check the tooltip on the wand by hovering over with your cursor to be sure you're on the correct setting

Right clicking (or shift right clicking; depends on what you're doing) an applicable block or entity will choose it as the thing that's "locked"

Right clicking (or shift right clicking; depends on what you're doing) anything else will attempt to link to the "locked" thing in the order that your wand is set to

For example, if you have the wand on "locked second" and have the "locked" thing be a storage lectern, (shift)right clicking anything else should follow the logic
Inventory/buncle/whatever is wanded first
Storage lectern is wanded second
And you can keep doing that to wand a bunch of things "first" without needing to "second wand" the storage lectern

Conversely, if you have the wand set to "locked first" then right clicking anything else will follow the logic
Storage lectern is wanded first
Whatever else is wanded second

You can craft the wand to reset it to factory settings

coarse imp
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Hey, what is the Source Spawner block used for? Can't figure out precisely (spawn, ok but what?) 🙂

runic iris
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source powered spawner. If you can get a spawn egg for a creature you can set the type.

flat hull
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it uses mob jars actually

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so you dont need a spawn egg

runic iris
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That's even better. Tells you how long it's been since I messed with them. (probably in the 1.19 testing)

covert topaz
empty warren
#

how does the wayfinder and its ritual work

covert topaz
empty warren
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ty

runic iris
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You go, Janky Minecraft world generation. I can saftely say this explorer portal didn't spawn with a portal structure.

lucid plover
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That's why I use Structurify and enable the global structure separation. Just have to make sure to only use the YetAnotherConfigLib version 3.6.2 because the later updates to that library crash the game.

glossy ravine
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I never thought about this, but will the source spawner spawn an ender dragon?

covert topaz
jaunty arrow
#

Can somebody please tell me what does the enchantment spellweave does?
I can't figure it out myself

covert topaz
jaunty arrow
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Ok, thanks

runic iris
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The only thing I can do with the advanced dominion wand is to put it in Locked Second, shift+click on a lectern, then shift click on one (and only one) storage linked to it. That will unlink that single storage.

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The wand will do nothing else at that point to anything.

flat hull
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ive looked at the code before and i think the issue is that it requires both sides to be IWandable, which neither inventories nor source jars are

runic iris
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And all other combinations just fail to do anything at all.

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Well, if they must be wandable that would really explain why other mod storage fails with the advanced dominion wand. Like Minecolonies racks or Hexerei herb jars.

mild canopy
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how do I put scrolls into a warp nexus exactly? it tells me to use "left shift+right button" but if I do that it just says "that scroll is already bound to a location"

covert topaz
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Empty your hands

mild canopy
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oh kleinesss2

ancient night
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where can i read about the advanced dominion wand?

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i cant sdeem to find it in the book?

covert topaz
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It's not in the book currently as I need to release the new docs

covert topaz
ancient night
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i think i figured it out a bit