Ars Additions

[wind temple]

not even the mod that lets you check configs ingame sees that

[covert topaz]

It's in common config, make sure it's enabled before you start the game

[wind temple]

even in configs i cant seem to find it

The only way i can even SEE a tiny bit of the ritual file's is if i snoop inside the zip file of the mod

and theres only one file on it and all it tells me is the crafting ingredients

[covert topaz]

Can you screenshot your config folder?

[wind temple]

wont allow me to screenshot, sadly i'l have to do it the lame way, phone photo.

in a moment

[covert topaz]

Root config folder

Not the ars additions folder

[wind temple]

ohhhh

it isnt in that one, i think i found it now

thank you

[covert topaz]

All good, it's an expensive recipe so if you prefer a cheaper one feel free to make one, I just threw it in there as an expensive default

[wind temple]

for the ability to load chunks, i feel like the recipe is fair, especially considering the ability to have your storage loaded constantly and being able to connect to it across the world and dimensions using the Warp Indexes

my only question is, how many chunks does it load ?

[covert topaz]

Depends on your config, defaults to 1, can be increased up to 9x9

That's in the ars_additions-server.toml

[covert topaz]

not sure, I found this one the same and it worked :/

Will add the fallback

[covert topaz]

ugly menu but it's progress

[patent iron]

Will there be an option to nickname the locations in any way? Maybe by renaming the scroll

[covert topaz]

Yeah, renaming the scroll will display the name instead of the co-ords

Luckily that bit is already done

[mystic crown]

Perfect!

[covert topaz]

Just have to make this UI pretty

If anyone has a cool concept for displaying 9 locations on a screen let me know

Otherwise it's just going to be a list

[mystic crown]

3x3 grid of maps would be awesome

[covert topaz]

Maps?

[mystic crown]

Like a vanilla map from the location

[covert topaz]

I will have to investigate how difficult that would be

[mystic crown]

Would probably actually need the map to exist

[covert topaz]

Unsure if it would look too busy, because I also need a place to fit the name on there too

[mystic crown]

I should mention, I suggest it only as a very random first thing that came to mind, no idea how useful or easy it would be

[patent iron]

I think a list is probably going to be the simplest and most useful

[covert topaz]

Yeah most likely

[mystic crown]

Agreed

You just asked for an idea, not a good idea

[covert topaz]

It's all good haha, maybe I'll investigate a Zieg mode

If localplayer == Zieg draw maps

[patent iron]

make zieg solve a rubik's cube to select the location

[covert topaz]

"Type a compliment to continue:"

Use some chatgpt to analyse the sentiment

[mystic crown]

Aww. The 12 sided "cube" near me is currently unsolved

[covert topaz]

Pretty sure that's a dodecahedron

[mystic crown]

Rubics dodecahedron

[covert topaz]

Megaminx?

[mystic crown]

No idea, got it from my mother in law years ago. I had it solved at one point, but my kids fixed that

[covert topaz]

Hahaha

[patent iron]

My DM also collects different size rubik's cubes

[covert topaz]

I have one of these in my desk drawer but I've found basically no resources on how to solve it

[patent iron]

I suck at solving them

The one I remember my dm showing last looked like this. It's just a standard one, but sizes are weird

[mystic crown]

I've solved that one at one point, I think it had mirrors on all the sides

I'm not one of those people who can speed solve them, I just follow the standard process which takes 3-4 minutes

The dodecahedron is fragile.. The smaller pieces on the edges can pop out easily. Other than that, it's basically the same process as a regular 3x3

[covert topaz]

reduce the button width and centered vertically, I think this is probably good enough for initial release

[covert topaz]

https://imgur.com/a/BOWVAQG

WIP model, but functionality is mostly done

Gotta added source recharging

[open dragon]

Quick tip, add the helix particles post tp

Either copy paste from self or play a little with the params

[kindred crane]

Possible to make the UI like when you select your spells on the book? The Radial format, each one with a Scrow icon that when you hover over it it display the scroll name

[covert topaz]

Sourcestone buttons

[latent linden]

I want an ars addition :P

ability for display cases to have more items

I was thinking about using a scroll where you could add items to and then place the scroll into the case but that would be boring

I want to something like "activate only if there are item A > x and item B > y". trivial to do with redstone but doesnt really fit with ars

[covert topaz]

I've never actually worked with display cases, will have a read up on what they do

[sullen orchid]

you can already use scrolls with them

[latent linden]

is this already possible ?

[sullen orchid]

not tracking 2 different values for 2 different items in the same block. If you use an allow scroll, it will count all the items in the list and compare it to the number you set

[covert topaz]

Still need to texture the cube

[kindred crane]

You can?

how?

[wind temple]

allow scrolls with saved blocks or items on them i believe

[silver slate]

rightclicking with this isnt doing anything

[covert topaz]

Any errors in console?

[silver slate]

[22Apr2024 14:14:23.791] [Server thread/ERROR] [net.minecraft.network.protocol.PacketUtils/]: Failed to handle packet net.minecraft.network.protocol.game.ServerboundUseItemPacket@610172c9, suppressing error
java.util.NoSuchElementException: No value present
    at java.util.Optional.orElseThrow(Optional.java:377) ~[?:?]
    at com.github.jarva.arsadditions.util.LocateUtil.getFromTag(LocateUtil.java:24) ~[ars_additions-1.20.1-1.3.4.jar%23526!/:1.20.1-1.3.4]
    at com.github.jarva.arsadditions.item.ExplorationWarpScroll.m_7203_(ExplorationWarpScroll.java:110) ~[ars_additions-1.20.1-1.3.4.jar%23526!/:1.20.1-1.3.4]
    at net.minecraft.world.item.ItemStack.m_41682_(ItemStack.java:275) ~[client-1.20.1-20230612.114412-srg.jar%23868!/:?]
    at net.minecraft.server.level.ServerPlayerGameMode.m_6261_(ServerPlayerGameMode.java:286) ~[client-1.20.1-20230612.114412-srg.jar%23868!/:?]
    at net.minecraft.server.network.ServerGamePacketListenerImpl.m_5760_(ServerGamePacketListenerImpl.java:1087) ~[client-1.20.1-20230612.114412-srg.jar%23868!/:?]
    at net.minecraft.network.protocol.game.ServerboundUseItemPacket.m_5797_(ServerboundUseItemPacket.java:29) ~[client-1.20.1-20230612.114412-srg.jar%23868!/:?]
    at net.minecraft.network.protocol.game.ServerboundUseItemPacket.m_5797_(ServerboundUseItemPacket.java:7) ~[client-1.20.1-20230612.114412-srg.jar%23868!/:?]
    at net.minecraft.network.protocol.PacketUtils.m_263899_(PacketUtils.java:22) ~[client-1.20.1-20230612.114412-srg.jar%23868!/:?]
    at net.minecraft.server.TickTask.run(TickTask.java:18) ~[client-1.20.1-20230612.114412-srg.jar%23868!/:?]
    at net.minecraft.util.thread.BlockableEventLoop.m_6367_(BlockableEventLoop.java:156) ~[client-1.20.1-20230612.114412-srg.jar%23868!/:?]
    at net.minecraft.util.thread.ReentrantBlockableEventLoop.m_6367_(ReentrantBlockableEventLoop.java:23) ~[client-1.20.1-20230612.114412-srg.jar%23868!/:?]
    at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.m_6367_(MinecraftServer.java:770) ~[client-1.20.1-20230612.114412-srg.jar%23868!/:?]
    at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.m_6367_(MinecraftServer.java:161) ~[client-1.20.1-20230612.114412-srg.jar%23868!/:?]
    at net.minecraft.util.thread.BlockableEventLoop.m_7245_(BlockableEventLoop.java:130) ~[client-1.20.1-20230612.114412-srg.jar%23868!/:?]
    at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.m_129961_(MinecraftServer.java:753) ~[client-1.20.1-20230612.114412-srg.jar%23868!/:?]
    at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.m_7245_(MinecraftServer.java:747) ~[client-1.20.1-20230612.114412-srg.jar%23868!/:?]
    at net.minecraft.util.thread.BlockableEventLoop.m_18701_(BlockableEventLoop.java:139) ~[client-1.20.1-20230612.114412-srg.jar%23868!/:?]
    at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.m_130012_(MinecraftServer.java:733) ~[client-1.20.1-20230612.114412-srg.jar%23868!/:?]
    at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.m_130011_(MinecraftServer.java:665) ~[client-1.20.1-20230612.114412-srg.jar%23868!/:?]
    at net.minecraft.server.MinecraftServer.m_206580_(MinecraftServer.java:251) ~[client-1.20.1-20230612.114412-srg.jar%23868!/:?]
    at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:833) ~[?:?]

[covert topaz]

Just found an issue, I referenced the wrong tag in the use function

Will release an update, it works for building the portals though

I think

I'm assuming you also have AsyncLocator installed?

[silver slate]

I do yeah

[covert topaz]

Yeah will fix, the async locator compat didn't update the item stack properly

[silver slate]

Ahh

[silver slate]

Does it have Structure Essentials compat?

[covert topaz]

I don't know what that is, so probably no?

[silver slate]

Its basically the same as Async Locator

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/structure-essentials-forge-fabric

[covert topaz]

I can only say maybe

so can't really check

Only going to specifically support AsyncLocator

[silver slate]

Alright, sounds good

[open dragon]

we would be able to contact someaddons if it's actually a problem on their side and not just a problem for your impl

[covert topaz]

Was this from a looted chest or creative?

[silver slate]

looted chest

[covert topaz]

So it turns out this is more complex than I thought, rewrite for exploration scrolls incoming

[cursive dock]

double check the arcane permanence ritual for me. i edited the settings: it doesn't need source to keep running, and i think it's not loading properly

4 upgrades means it's a 9x9 chunk, right?

my poor drygmy ain't farming when i leave home

[mystic crown]

I mean... Doesn't it not have a crafting recipe?

[cursive dock]

i added one

costs a whooping 8 planks and 1 source gem

[covert topaz]

Okay, I have async locator support working now, but if a player generates loot and doesn't take the scroll out within the uptime of the server, it doesn't ever resolve the location 🤔

May be able to save the data from that

[covert topaz]

This will be fixed in the next update, should hopefully be this week with the Warp Nexus also

[cursive dock]

update to this: yeah, something's fucky. i left my blast furnaces running, for a night trip to the nether (~12minutes). came back and they still not done. ritual is upgraded to 9x9 chunks, but the firnaces were on the same chunk as the ritual

[covert topaz]

Will double check it, worst case scenario I'll add some debug statements to declare when a chunk is being force-loaded

[covert topaz]

With lovely tower thanks to @patent iron

[ionic scaffold]

Oooooh

[covert topaz]

Excited to get this generating in the world

[patent iron]

Same here

[covert topaz]

So the Nexus generates with a warp scroll bound to it's location, it's a special warp scroll only useable in a Warp Nexus, and only the first person to discover a nexus will get this free scroll

[patent iron]

Have you decided on what to put in the 7x7 area?

[covert topaz]

There is no 7x7 area

[patent iron]

My bad, there is no 7x7 area

[covert topaz]

You will be spared from lake laogai

[silver slate]

Will there be an ars elemental compat that adds a version of the warp nexus tower with the yellow archwood tree

[covert topaz]

It's being looked into

[open dragon]

ah right, i forgot

well, there is the way to make conditional structures, as mods like idas have them

[silver slate]

yeah thats what i was thinking

[covert topaz]

Yeah there is, I can't add them to the template pool though, so I'd have to make them independent structure sets

[sullen orchid]

idk if this idea fits, but it's one I've had for a while and might go with the Additions theme of stuff that might not fit in base Ars. Runes going vertical and runic chalk made me think that it would be neat if we could use chalk to make signs directly on surfaces. So you would use the chalk on the surface of a block and it could pop up the sign writing UI, and just display the text on a block. Maybe these messages could also still work as runes, so you could have runes that also say what the rune does (or be misleading and trick people)

[runic iris]

Heh, a glyph that lets a rune make a sound.

[covert topaz]

https://tenor.com/savzKKwiS8m.gif

I'm imagining this

[sullen orchid]

yeah, basically

[runic iris]

I guess you can sort of use redstone or interact to make a rune trigger a noteblock.

[covert topaz]

I do like the idea

[sullen orchid]

it's one I've been sitting on for quite some time

[cursive dock]

like a hologram text? that's neat

[sullen orchid]

yeah, sign text without a sign

[cursive dock]

ah DS style

either is neat

you've fallen for my trap *explodes*

[sullen orchid]

"I prepare explosive runes"

[covert topaz]

I really like the idea, using chalk directly on a block and it defaults to glowing

[sullen orchid]

use dye on the chalk or the text

to change the color

[covert topaz]

Dye probably on the text

[cursive dock]

in soviet minecraft, rune steps on you *inverted landslide*

you can use a something on the chalk to change its color. perhaps wololo, or even the spell color gets inherited

[covert topaz]

[cursive dock]

or that on the rune, yes

[covert topaz]

I just realised Signs should be Wololo-able too

[sullen orchid]

mhm

[cursive dock]

archwood signs colored?

[covert topaz]

the text more so

I do want to add new wood types though

[open dragon]

they are

[covert topaz]

Woo, go Alex

[open dragon]

don't ask me how i remembered to add that compat

but text gets wololo and maybe glowing from

[covert topaz]

Nexus with and without scroll

the scrolls now spin with the cube

[cursive dock]

idk how hard it'd be to implement, but maybe have X lights spinning around it, where X is the number of available warp locations

either a fixed orbit, or just randomly

[covert topaz]

like spaces available? or if you have 9 scrolls inside it shows 9 lights?

[cursive dock]

that was it

either orbiting, or just decorating the structure

[covert topaz]

I feel like it may get too busy?

[cursive dock]

possibly, i just felt like throwing the idea

yeah, makes more sense not to have that

[covert topaz]

I plan to make the particle wololo-able, I need to implement the source requirements and add the tower generation and that's it

[cursive dock]

and we salute you

[open dragon]

You might also have to bug Sarenor into adding additions docs to ars nouveau wiki

if you haven't already, ofc. it sounds simple but it probably eats away his time to setup

[covert topaz]

I can probably make a PR for it

[runic iris]

I may need to redo some of my base on the test server. This is completely new to me and opens some new options for the off-switches on my crop farms.

[covert topaz]

First look at a Nexus Tower, I need to work on the block processors, this was just copied and pasted from the warp portals

[runic iris]

I don't recall whose post I was reading. They had the best headcannon for wizard towers: magic users start off with normal looking cloths and towers but as they work with magic their homes and clothes take on that pointed robed look. Cottages growing into imposing towers. Hats becoming pointed. Tunics flowing out into robes.

These really have that feel of 'grown through magic' or inspired by the arcane that permeates so much of Goo's designs so well.

[mystic crown]

Magic distorts time and space

Simple wand turns into a staff as well

[covert topaz]

By "these", are you referring to the Nexus Towers?

[runic iris]

Well, yes.

[covert topaz]

Wanted to double check whether you were referring to the head cannon or the tower

[runic iris]

As much as I am prone to word salad I can understand how that may be confusing.

I am complementing the quality of the design and detailing going into the Nexus Towers.

[covert topaz]

I also just woke up so it may be me

[runic iris]

These are not just generic Minecraft cylinders or the same medieval style block game wizard towers but something with a bit of whimsy and flare like the rest of Ars Nouveau.

If anything I'd say they are a bit gray, dark and dour. But then I've not seen one "in person" and a lot is lost in a screenshot.

[covert topaz]

All compliments go to @patent iron for letting me use their wonderful designs.

There should be a little bit of "pop" added with the gilded Sourcestone variants being integrated which hopefully makes it a little lighter, and the gray will become mossier once I've built the processors

[crimson raft]

I think it is because the archwood is gray, but it usually has the contrast of the leaves, except that in this last image they use the vexing, which, being purple, does not contrast as much.

[silver slate]

i support any dark souls additions(add them all)

if i ever get into modding, a proper dark souls mod will be my big project

[wind temple]

my headcanon for those is that wood wands grow into staffs, and those staffs grow into magic treesat the end of the life of a wizard

magic forests are old wizard staffs protecting the villages they lived in or their domains

[covert topaz]

I need votes, A, B or C

[meager lily]

Hey i have an idea for reliquary, will it be possible once it support turrets, to also use warp scrolls?, like the turret and the warp scroll chest, are in a location, and using something like :recall: on a reactive spell, allow you to teleport all entites around you to X location?

[covert topaz]

you can already do that with though?

[meager lily]

Yes but for turrets

Cuz i have a spesfic desgin that idk how to explain

[covert topaz]

I think turrets can support blink

[meager lily]

That i cant use spellbook for it

[meager lily]

With reliqaury too?

[covert topaz]

Not with reliquary because there's no support for that yet, but on their own they should

[meager lily]

ah, also how can i make it affect anything else but me?, like the burst is full blown circle unlike :Aura: which leave you out of the equation

[covert topaz]

You could try a filter player

but that filters all players

[meager lily]

Thats an issue hmm

it seem does not work

with or without warp scroll

[covert topaz]

Interesting

[covert topaz]

Alright folks, what kind of things would you find in a chest in a Wizard's Tower?

building a loot table

[tardy spire]

id say some paper and squid ink

[knotty escarp]

Maybe some tokens of different Ars mobs? (Drygmy, Whirlisprig, Starbuncle?)

[meager lily]

Moslty Tier 1 paper and paper thats what i find currently

[cursive dock]

a mimic

jokes aside, idk: maybe a wand with some spells? caster tomes? enchanted robes?

turret, ritual brazier, some base ars machinery?

a random patreon starby charm? already crafted with the gold, ready to deploy

free stabilized warp scroll

early game stab warp scroll is great for exploration - just go back home bruh

i don't think it's broken since it'll be a while until you get blink to use it in other ways

[covert topaz]

Current loot, I may add the stabilized warp scroll because it's an interesting idea

[meager lily]

would be cool if you increase the drops, and decrease the structre spawn

giving that everyone

[covert topaz]

Here's an alpha build with the Nexus Tower, please give it a try and see if everything works as expected. (This build only includes the new Nexus Tower, Scroll and Warp Nexus block, as well as Exploration Warp Scroll locating rewrite)

[covert topaz]

This can be done with a datapack if anyone wants to

[meager lily]

soo bye bye waystone?

[covert topaz]

Hopefully soon yeah

[meager lily]

Also are you planning on adding map support?

for journymap/xaeros

[covert topaz]

I need to finish debugging the Ritual of Chunk Loading issue, as well as adding Recall support to Turrets, but then will release I think

[meager lily]

wait what issue?

[covert topaz]

Yes to JourneyMap, unsure for Xaeros

Some claims that it wasn't chunk loading properly

[meager lily]

WAIT that was an issue!!?, and here i was thinking maybe server was lagging

[covert topaz]

Yeah apparently, going to add some debug statements, to see when chunks are being loaded

The build above also includes a fix to @silver slate's AsyncLocator issue

[meager lily]

speaking of debug and map support, also once you go on map supporting add chunkload support like glow or something that show that X chunk is loaded, hell in game would be fine too like the ground give slight particals similar to how some rituals do so people can see the edges on which the chunkload end

[covert topaz]

Yeah will look into that, it's a good idea

[meager lily]

Yoooo this look amazing WTF

Rip the texture i use for waystone lol

Soo how does this work exaclty?

Ah shift + Right Click to add warp scroll

soo the limit is 9 warp nexus in the world?

[covert topaz]

9 scrolls, you can put in, stabilized, normal or nexus

[meager lily]

To keep portal making useful right?

[covert topaz]

So you can access the same 9 from anywhere, but you have to limit the places you have available to teleport to

[meager lily]

will it be possible if you change the name of the warp scroll to have its name displayed here too?

First Bug

[covert topaz]

It already does

[covert topaz]

Weird, seems like a Geckolib thing

[covert topaz]

Oops, I forgot to re-enable the other colours, so only red will spawn in that build

Will fix it tomorrow

If anyone would like to take a nice screenshot of the tower/nexus to use on the Curseforge page that would be greatly appreciated

[meager lily]

Gotcha

[meager lily]

i have not found any tower so couldnt take picture of that

[covert topaz]

Can use /locate if you want to try

[meager lily]

yea ik that commend, no tower

[covert topaz]

Oh? That's strange, is it a new world?

[meager lily]

let me try another world

[covert topaz]

No #

Just ars_additions:warp_nexus

Or maybe it's nexus_tower

I don't remember

[meager lily]

okay let me try both

yea that work

[covert topaz]

Which was it?

I forget what I named it

[meager lily]

im in loove with the tower design

[covert topaz]

I started with warp_nexus but ended up transitioning some to nexus_tower

[meager lily]

This fit soo well with my house design being a massive tree with inside design

[meager lily]

its nexus_tower

[covert topaz]

Ah

[meager lily]

shader is fine right?

[covert topaz]

Yes shader is good

Massive thanks to @orchid rover for the Nexus design (as well as almost all other textures in the mod, and the ruined portal design) and @patent iron for the tower design

[meager lily]

Also will you add ability to change the color of the tower by using dye and right click it?

the nexus warp i mean

[covert topaz]

It has wololo support but I broke it, will be fixed before release

[meager lily]

Niice

Yall outdid yourself ngl the design is amazing

Also there is missing texture when breaking the nexus tower and will it have crafting recipe?

[covert topaz]

No crafting recipe, will add the particle texture, I also need to make it mineable iirc

[meager lily]

Huh then how would we get one?

[covert topaz]

You take one from a tower

[meager lily]

Owwww

[covert topaz]

The ones in the tower don't need source to teleport, ones placed by the player will

[meager lily]

The tower loot kinda bonker ngl

[covert topaz]

There's a rare chance to find an item on the scribes table too

[meager lily]

no tier 2-3

Damn it

[covert topaz]

Tier 2 and 3 can be added by the modpack maker

But they're unobtainable by default for a reason

[covert topaz]

Also check the chiseled bookshelf

[meager lily]

um how do i get in this room in first place?

[covert topaz]

That's a secret

[meager lily]

Both give tier 1

[covert topaz]

Yes

Each tower has two guaranteed T1 glyphs

[meager lily]

oh

Also Didnt know you can shove entry to the bookshelf

Thats neat

[meager lily]

like the enternce is secert or the room is secert?

[covert topaz]

Yes

[meager lily]

Also the nexus warp that are in the tower use source

[covert topaz]

Oop, have to fix that

[runic iris]

This is interesting for people using the Sky Villages from FTB Skies. Currently they have to force include a scroll and stabilized scroll as a hint to 'save your place then go home easily' with Ars.

Instead you can just include the nexus as a structure in your village building scripts.

[covert topaz]

The nexus itself comes with a pre-bound Nexus Warp scroll

Which can be used in any Warp Nexus but not just as a scroll

[runic iris]

Even better! No more of people doing silly things and complaining in #help that they had no way of getting back to a village they flew 10k-20k across a void to find.

[tardy spire]

btw is the explorer scroll thingy bugged?

[covert topaz]

Oh? In what way?

[tardy spire]

whenever I shift right click nothing happens

sometimes tho it works

throwing it directly into the portal base with a source jar nearby without having a location written on it does nothing

I do have asynclocator if it causes problems

[covert topaz]

Anything in your logs? You don't need to shift right-click, and it only makes a portal if it's a ruined portal base

Async locator compat has issues on the released version, it's fixed in the alpha build I put above

[tardy spire]

got it

sorry im just making you repeat yourself xd

[covert topaz]

But the alpha build is specifically an alpha, so I'd avoid using it in existing worlds

That's all good

I can't expect everyone to read every message here

[runic iris]

Well, when you get something we can put up on the test server, I'll start buging Xacris and Zieg about trimming the chunks on the Ars test server.

[covert topaz]

Hopefully in the next couple days, depending on how busy life is

[ionic scaffold]

I'm assuming that server owners could add recipes for the nexus with kubejs..?

[covert topaz]

Yep

[covert topaz]

Was your drygmy on the outskirts of your 9x9 chunks? I've found a bug in the implementation, added debug logs (can be enabled in the config) and changed the way chunks are loaded which should be more reliable

[covert topaz]

alpha5 with the above mentioned fixes, as well as fixing Wololo support for Warp Nexus, making it so natural Warp Nexus' don't require Source and only natural Nexus' include a warp scroll, crafted/creative ones won't have any

[meager lily]

when breaking the nexus it drop two

[covert topaz]

huh will check that one

[meager lily]

yea no im not schizo it does actuelly do that

[covert topaz]

Yeah I messed up the loot table

ty

[meager lily]

Dont fix that

DAMN ME

here more image for curseforge

[meager lily]

is the rarity of this structure intended to be this common?

I caluclated them and its around a structure per a 1500 block

[covert topaz]

They have a minimum of 15 chunks gap between them, maximum of 40 chunks

[meager lily]

So every 2 million radius there will be a structure.., thats good yea

[covert topaz]

2 million radius?

wha

[meager lily]

ok wtf

thats 200 block

away

[covert topaz]

minimum 240 blocks between them

[meager lily]

Too common

[runic iris]

True RNG can be a long series of just '7' over and over again.

[meager lily]

can you make it rarer?

[runic iris]

The human brain wants all randomness to be unpredictable low frequency randomness but that's not how it actually works.

[meager lily]

another one...the loot are insane to be this common

[covert topaz]

Can make it rarer

[runic iris]

If that's the loot, holy cow! A tower is an instant bootstrap right into mid-game Ars. Just add a storage system. You've got the berries to start a mycelial sourcelink reactor right there.

[meager lily]

its a secert room with secert enternce

Still havent figured out how to enter without pass through

[runic iris]

No such thing to people who like to chew through walls if they have to.

But if the secret requires knowing , that's really cool, too.

[meager lily]

You right, you could just carpet bomb the wall or use the spell that make block phase through

But if there is enternce the author wanted

i wanna see it

[covert topaz]

It doesn't, there's a way to just walk in

[meager lily]

Uh

[runic iris]

Ahh. I thought you were perhaps giving a sceret boost.

[meager lily]

After i got the 4th tower

My game crash lol

[runic iris]

Now I need to think of a command block that you could drop into a tower to make that so.

[meager lily]

And yes i found another on TOP of this^

[covert topaz]

Happy to DM with the solution if you'd like

[meager lily]

Nono i wanna find it on my own

Cuz it seem soo intersting

[covert topaz]

That's why I didn't say the solution haha

[meager lily]

Thank you appreciate it

[covert topaz]

Going to make a variant without the loot room, and have the room be rarer

[meager lily]

Have the tower be rarer aswell please

Cuz i got 4 within 2300 block radius

[covert topaz]

Tower can be rarer if it's annoying, but no downside to having a few spawn

[meager lily]

Which is again extremelly low area to travel giving the 52x

[meager lily]

Exaclty

They soo mejastic

Dont want them to be ruined by excessive

Duplicate

Also will there be more color?

Like all the other tree color for the towers?

[covert topaz]

Yeah, that's in the latest build

the alpha 5

[meager lily]

what alpha we are currently?

nvm i just need to read lol

[covert topaz]

What kind of spacing do you think would be good?

[meager lily]

10k+ block

Cuz its loot is good, and its always good sight to see someone giving now that you have nexus warp to go back and forth

it reward you for going far and wide, discovering your world and go on a journy hunt

[covert topaz]

I think that's way too far, it becomes really irregular to find them

[meager lily]

here more image i found purple one which is my fav

[covert topaz]

I'm going to up the distance a bit, and match the towers of the wild spawn rates

[meager lily]

think about it

Its teleporation tower

[covert topaz]

so minimum of 400 blocks between them, average of 720 blocks

[meager lily]

Its ment to cross very far distance in instence

[covert topaz]

Yeah, but if they're hard to find, then people won't get to use them

[meager lily]

How

If they find one that become a monuiment

A location

Its like finding woodlen mansion

Those are rare af, and yet people always pleased when find one

The tower offer Sooo much stuff

For its journy

Armor set, spells, scribing table, nexus warp WITH NO source needed Which is one of a kind

List goes on and on and on, it outweight the journy and back to my point

Its ars traveling far ranges is veery easy

[covert topaz]

I'll definitely make them rarer, but most people would struggle to find one of them I think

[meager lily]

Giving exist

[meager lily]

Once they find one it become easier to find the other

Cuz now they have acceses to network teleporation

Find another and boom you can link them

And it encourge exploration which espically good in modded minecraft

Yk dungeons, villages, other structures

When you travel around, you not just going after the nexus tower, but entire journy

And once you reach a Nexus tower the reward is Veery worth it

[covert topaz]

it's worth it once, but later times not so much

[meager lily]

Again full blown Ars set

[meager lily]

Nexus tower since it doesnt have recipe

[covert topaz]

tier 1 basic gold set

[meager lily]

• the tower give you one that use no source

Players will prefer this over making portals or using rune with source jar

espically after the rune nerf

[covert topaz]

yes unless you move it, then it costs source

[meager lily]

Exaclty

So You have it very rare because with it

Techenically infinite source/tp

And smart players can have them as hubs

And then build portals that link to other hubs/locations

Like yk mirrorweave portals

Remember in ars, its easy to travel around fast or even instent Thanks to all the teleporation features we have

Having the nexus tower be very rare and in item that cannot be crafted?

Sound like great deal to me

Speaking from a player that doesnt like to go around or travel around and just sit in a skyland with everything renewable

They are structures with limitless features, if they are too duplicated they lose their beauty, its like why netherite is rare why diamond is rare because of its value

The higher something value is the more rare it should be, back to my point that nexus is not craftable and provide no source needed teleporation with no warp scroll usage even?, sound very valuable to me

here day mode

Also if you worried about players feeling frustrated to find it or cant to find it at all!, you can add something to the Shady Villager to sell like a map to the nexues tower, or have excessive archwood at the edge of near by nexues tower so that player know a one is near by

[covert topaz]

alpha 6, includes nexus without loot rooms, coloured starbuncle beds, increased space between towers and a message when players try to open the warp nexus without scrolls

[cursive dock]

on a 9x9 ritual loaded area, the drygmy is inside the 7x7 area

catching up to this channel, haven't tried any of the new files

[covert topaz]

If you do, make a backup of your world beforehand

[tardy spire]

Amethysts for loot?

[cursive dock]

you can theoretically find those easy enough with dowsing rods. amethyst as loot would make sense with 1 golem charm. idk how i feel about it

that'd mean finding one of these towers would throw you a long way ahead of the early game

it's nice if you really don't want to bother with the initial grind, but idk

[covert topaz]

I think the loot room in the tower has enough to boost you in the start, I'm pretty happy with the loot available currently

[ionic scaffold]

I can't wait for the tower, also for just dropping a create falling miner contraption onto it >:)

[covert topaz]

Feel free to try out the alpha and give any feedback you can think of

[ionic scaffold]

I dont have access to the FTP for the server I play on :(

[covert topaz]

What modpack do you play?

[ionic scaffold]

It's a custom pack we've made of mods we like

typical "science side" and "magic side" has formed, but the science people have realised that ars is 100x better

their crushing wheels only give them gravel from cobblestone, no resources haha

[mystic crown]

Might have to have my next town built around one

At least until I can build a bigger tower over the whole city

[ancient night]

is there any intent on making stable reliquaries which aren't one time use? :3

[covert topaz]

Unstable ones aren't one-time use for all uses, only on players, I'm unsure how I feel about the power of stable reliquaries

[meager lily]

Just config it, for me i have it 5 usage on player, and infinite usage on entity and blocks

[ancient night]

Oh that's cool. Thanks for the tip!

armor stands count as players then?

(i think??)

it seemed to only work once on it

[meager lily]

no

They are entites

[ancient night]

must have used it too many tiems on blocks before hand then

🙂

[meager lily]

Also another tip that is kinda warcriminal moment, you can use Create Drone with reliquary to have C4 strapped Drone

Or you can do it on a bat if you have less moral

[ancient night]

i have made creeper bats before

weith commands to summon in creepers riding bats

this is also war crime-esque

[meager lily]

Yeah ww2 reference

[covert topaz]

I hate it

[patent iron]

The diagonal fence is not real. It can't hurt you

[ancient night]

I like diagonal fences

[crimson raft]

Oh, that reminds me of the exploding bats from Thaumcraft.

Memories aside, something I have in mind with the reliquary is placing Alex's Caves nukes in specific locations without having to be present, I believe that with the right design, a launch station can be semi-automated.

[covert topaz]

I may have to override the 1.19.2 gilded sourcestone texture :S

[meager lily]

I hate when structure spawn on water

[tall plank]

It does make it look off I agree.

[covert topaz]

It's probably due to the tag I use, maybe worth adjusting those

[orchid rover]

https://tenor.com/view/disgust-dog-hate-nope-no-gif-14470344

diagonal fence is eugh

im really loving all the images of the towers otherwise though :}

[covert topaz]

1.19.2 backport alpha, use at your own risk

@cosmic fractal @ionic dragon @ancient night

Pinging because you all expressed interest in the 1.19.2 backport. Apologies for the ping if that's not the case anymore.

[ancient night]

Is! Thanks!

[cosmic fractal]

Thanks!!

[ionic scaffold]

Aaaaaaaa the anticipation

[tall plank]

I'm not aware if it's possible but why not try to make it look like an island made out of the ars stone for ocean spawns?

[ancient night]

how do we enable the performance ritual btw? i saw configs to change stuff about it but not to give it a recipe

[covert topaz]

The ritual of arcane permanence? There's a config option in arsadditions-common.toml

[ancient night]

Thanks I was in the wrong one! ❤️

Appreciate you~

[meager lily]

gotta keep it balance, give good image give horrible one too

[meager lily]

I think this is the best place to ask for this idea cuz i dont think it will ever be part of the main ars, But will it be possible to have something like an owl, or old bookwyrm design, send requests?, like magical autocrafter that can communicate with wixi and your storage?

[covert topaz]

Like from the lectern?

You request something to be crafted

[meager lily]

Yes

Cuz i feel like the only thing missing rn

is an autocrafter

As in like autosender crafter

But then again isn't possible to craft something like this?, like a system that can replace wixi pedestals with the item you want more crafting and then the extra crafting be sent back to the main storage lectern

Hmm

either way its just a theory idea not something i dont it will/can exist but it will be cool to have ars additon "worker'

Hmm an owl with card system, and cards can store the crafting data, and can be linked to the storage lectern and the owl will send those data to the wixi?

something like that?

[sullen orchid]

you could send an item to a pedestal next to a wixie to request that item be made

just do normal item management and pedestals and it's already possible

[meager lily]

yes thats what i said

Its already possible

But i was thinking a familiar do that could be cool idea

i want me hogward owl

[sullen orchid]

if it could automate the Enchanting Apparatus then I think we have an idea

that's the one that's really hard to do now

[meager lily]

lets add that too sure why not

Its like requestfiy

if anyone remember that mod

[wind temple]

it would be a thing if we could use the Bookwyrms for that

Like, place a lectern near an enchanting apparatus use the wand of dominion on the apparatus and then on the lectern, and then it magically becomes an enchanting apparatus manager

it acts like a chest with the = scroll when you ask for an item to be crafted, then (with the help of starbungles connected to it), is able to take items from the main storage system

once the craft is done, it doesnt ask for items anymore till you ask for another recipy

we could give the Bookwyrms hard hats or something to distinguish them from normal bookwyrms when they work at that station

that or we can make starbungle help with the crafting as well instead of just getting resources

[covert topaz]

I plan on making something to allow Wixies to automate Enchanting Apparatus

[runic iris]

Well, there is nothing stopping you from using named storages attached to a lectern through bookwyrms to make a remote craft. It's ugly, but works.

If you could name a pedestal it would be optimal, but I've sort of gotten it to work with Dirt Chest 9000™️ on hoppers feeding the apparatus.

[wind temple]

but ugly is ugly tho

we want fancy...

[runic iris]

I've also messed around with trying to remote automate a wixie craft using the same thing. But you have to setup an elaborate locking mechanism to feed the one item into the pedestal next to the cauldron.

[wind temple]

at which point its kinda better to just do it yourself

[runic iris]

Fine for set-and-forget crafting. But not great for on-demand.

And very different from say, recipe patterns in Applied Energistics or Refined Storage.

The key part being that you can attach a pedestal to lectern as a 1 slot storage. But you cannot name it.

And there's no special mechanism for attaching a wixie to a lectern network as a 'crafting' unit.

[sullen orchid]

seems like we need a feature request for naming pedestals

[runic iris]

Like with Occultism's workers.

Not that Machine Spirits have a great workflow either.

[sullen orchid]

so like, what are people talking about when they say "on-demand crafting"? You manually select a thing and then the auto-crafter starts doing that until you tell it to stop?

[runic iris]

Yes. But the setup is always a pain.

You are almost stuck with having to make a special extra crafting page in the lectern UI to handle something as complex as adding a crafting device.

[sullen orchid]

I fully don't understand the need for that. Why not just craft up a bunch of stuff if you're doing it manually anyways?

wouldn't it be faster to just craft them?

[runic iris]

The basic feature is the Refined Storage or Applied Energistics mechanism. You have deep iterative crafting processed in modded so you let the system do it. Then speed up the bottlenecks until it's 10x or 100x faster than the player.

[wind temple]

tho we could use the way storage lecterns work, since they let you search for items and it got a crafting interface, why not change it a bit when connected to an enchanting apparatus

heres the idea: Once the storage lectern is connected, it turns from a normal storage lectern to an enchanting apparatus lectern, allowing you to use the items you got in another inventory connected to it to view said items, where you use the "crafting table" to set the items in it for where to place the items on the pedestals/enchanting apparatus (the 8 slots around the middle slot being the pedestals and the middle slot being the enchanting apparatus)

[sullen orchid]

I can understand it if it's hooked up to logic, but if it's manual... just craft the thing

ah, iterative crafting of the things needed to get that thing

I just don't use mods that do iterative crafting lol

fuck that noise

[wind temple]

on god

[runic iris]

Mekanism, Powah and Ars are example of mods with iterative recipes.

[sullen orchid]

the enchanting apparatus there isn't a way to do it quickly, so I can see the need there

yeah Powah can rot

I will never willingly touch that mod again

[runic iris]

Ars is particlarly annoying as the iterative recipes are also enchanting apparatus ones. And automation of that...well I've done it but that took four other mods to do it.

Not small mods either, AE2 + Mekanism QiO + Sophisticated Storage Drawers + the AE2 Extended mod.

[covert topaz]

Yeah that's my next main focus, automating the enchanting apparatus so it doesn't need so much to enchant stuff

[wind temple]

good thing is that most iterative recipes arent that hard to do , like element crafting

[sullen orchid]

what are the iterative craftings you need in Ars?

[runic iris]

And I had to route things using complex Mekanism logistical sorters. So basically automation of the apparatus required I write any Ars recipies three times.

[wind temple]

those essences are one of them

[sullen orchid]

well that's another whole process

[wind temple]

but they easy to do

yeah

still an iterative crafting you need tho...

tho good thing they are easy to do

[runic iris]

Imbument chambers are so simple to automate you can do it with vanilla minecraft when you get your first chambers.

[sullen orchid]

I don't even see that as a "craft" tbh

[covert topaz]

Any enchanting book

[sullen orchid]

right, good point on the enchants

I was trying to think of items

[runic iris]

Off the top of my head: Books, Armors, the Enchanter's Eye, and Reactive.

[wind temple]

what i did for amethysts was fill 4 slots with amethyst shards in hoppers, then put one sourcegem block in the last slot, so that they only take sourcegem blocks

but when you get to harder crafts its a problem

[wind temple]

do those magic threads count

[sullen orchid]

threads aren't really iterative. You craft the thread, then enchant it. It's two steps

like it's not a raw material you rip out of the world sure

[runic iris]

Imbuement chambers are like mekanism machines. You'll have dedicated 'crafters' for each thing as they are cheap and effecient. Plus managing the pedestals is insanity as there are crafts with different quanities used after you get a few popular add-ons like Trinkets.

[sullen orchid]

I've heard the Trinket recipes are... not great

[runic iris]

The Appartus, thankfully, gets 8 or less items and are 100% shapeless.

[runic iris]

Trinkets has some P.I.T.A. crafts.

[sullen orchid]

yeah that's a problem with Trinkets imo

[wind temple]

i havent ever used trinkets, what is a P.I.T.A craft ?

[sullen orchid]

pain in the ass

[runic iris]

Pain In the Arse. Multi-step with bizarre resources.

Create loves those kinds of crafts but is kind of suited to it. Ars-style station crafting is not.

[sullen orchid]

my solution is always to be difficult and refuse to interact with badly designed things

[runic iris]

Change My Mind, but %-success crafting is gambling in game.

[sullen orchid]

that's a bad mechanic

only serves to create frustration and bad feels

[runic iris]

So any kind of Ars automation that doens't support those kinds of flawed systems is still a 100% solution to me.

If a wixie automation gets added to Ars Additions and can just deal with basic iterative crafting, recipe management and the apparatus then it's Super Plus Good™️.

Even if the only thing being added is proper naming for pedestals so you can assemble it yourself using a lectern sub-network.

[sullen orchid]

hm, only problem that I forsee... the wixie uses pedestals to decide what to craft. You will need the wixie setup outside of the pedestal search range of the apparatus

[runic iris]

Well, that depends on how a wixie controlled appartus gests implemented. Right now the cooking wixies just use the cooking block and support the regular 'click in a craft' or pedestal method.

Unless there was some way to designate a pedestal as the 'recipe' one you could do a half-implementation by eliminating the pedestal feature on the apparatus wixie to force you to click in the required recipie on the apparatus.

[sullen orchid]

well I guess it's more of a concern of mine that players will immediately do it, just like they do with all the imbuement chamber and sourcelinks and whatnot

[runic iris]

I think the only reason there are no floods of broken apparatus reports with wixie users is that you are already pretty sophisticated with Ars if you are using the autocrafting.

FTB Skies Expert mode blocked all autocrafting but Ars until late game becasue 'people just never use it or know about it'

[sullen orchid]

but also the wixie doesn't interact with the apparatus at all at present, no real reason for them to be close

probably not a huge issue, just something to think about

[runic iris]

I exploited the heck out of wixies early game in FSE because I do know what cheap and easy access to a witch farm means with Ars.

[sullen orchid]

try to eliminate a potential common problem before it happens

[covert topaz]

It would be a custom block that doesn't use pedestals, it instead gets crafted by the wixie using the block

[meager lily]

What did i miss in this converstion?

Wouldnt card system be better that can memorize the recipe and send it?

[runic iris]

There are alternative systems to cards. And some people don't like cards in games.

[meager lily]

Also i found enclosed portal @covert topaz

[meager lily]

scroll then?

[runic iris]

Ars has the parchment system for that.

[meager lily]

So it would be easier to implement crafting parchment

?

I dont want another autocrafter honeslty, i wanna see if it possible to walk on a fineline between interactive autocrafter and automation

Dont want it to be another "oh make crafting recipe disk put it here now you can craft that item anytime you want"

maybe a supar charged wixi

Or Wixi That can communcite with other wixis pedestals

Like wixi with books

And those books have crafting recpies that she can send out to

the other wixis

[sullen orchid]

might want to avoid the word Grand

[runic iris]

It's up to what the developer wants. But 'make crafting recipe disk' is actually how wixies work today. You just need to first craft an example item.

[meager lily]

Sorry

can i ask why?

[runic iris]

Yeah, there are some very negative social reference there.

VERY

[meager lily]

Ahh

[sullen orchid]

nah, just immediate association to Grand Wizard, which is a thing in the KKK

[meager lily]

yea hell anh

[sullen orchid]

Grand Wixie is just a bit too close

[meager lily]

Okay Librarian Wixi

That sound better

Thoughts?

[runic iris]

Basically a reference to the head of an organization dedicated to racism in the United States is going to get you some notoriety. And possibly a ban from a company like Mojang if not Mircrosoft.

[meager lily]

ik what kkk is, but i didnt know grand is reference to them that was WILD thing i learned today ngl

[sullen orchid]

I mean probably not as far as that, just... bad reference

which is a shame because the name Grand Wizard is something you would naturally want to reach for in a magic mod

but it is tainted

[meager lily]

Isn't Archmage

Higher?

[runic iris]

This is why we can't have nice things.

[meager lily]

Yk Arch angel

i mean we can start calling it SeraphMage

[runic iris]

That and people who consider card games all Evil Devil's tools only good for gambling and sin.

[sullen orchid]

I think parchments would work well and be thematic for Ars

a card by another name

[meager lily]

Well as i said, if card is no and scroll exist, we can use book

I really like the idea of big wixi with the ability to hold a lot of books

[runic iris]

I've never been able to figure how to properly slot in a parchment for crafting. They are already heavily used for the filter system and spell scrolls.

[meager lily]

That she can share to other wixis

and every book have

Crafting recpie

[sullen orchid]

true. There is the problem of having too many similarly named and looking items used for different purposes

[meager lily]

It also fit very well with minecraft using Book for crafting guide

Yk the green book

[sullen orchid]

maybe the wixie enchantress can use Ledgers

[meager lily]

anyone remember that?

well i made a Feature request where i dumped most of the ideas i have for familiars https://discord.com/channels/743298050222587978/1235286530935754814

[covert topaz]

Did you look in the trapdoor next to the chest?

[patent iron]

you're meant to drop the scroll into the hole

[covert topaz]

Yes that's a 1x1 horizontal portal

[meager lily]

you can make 1x1??

[covert topaz]

Yup

[patent iron]

yes

[meager lily]

Wait so you can use portals for turrets til reliquary get implemented on turrets

projectile travel through the portal no?

[patent iron]

should work alright in the same dimension at least

[covert topaz]

Yeah needs to be same dimension

[meager lily]

reliquary require same dimension too?

also the portal sent me to buried house thats creepy

[covert topaz]

It breaks if you're in different dimensions currently

[covert topaz]

Trail ruin

[meager lily]

will there stablized reliquary in the future?

[covert topaz]

Unsure

[meager lily]

i usually use reliquary more for automation and utlity rather then combat spell

[covert topaz]

I'd be interested in hearing your usecases

[meager lily]

Giving that it made me remove

let me give you one

[patent iron]

Only cross dimenstional use I can foresee is wireless redstone

[meager lily]

I removed ender storage and started using reliquary instead

[patent iron]

or some item transfer

[meager lily]

By using

So item are sent there instent

Tho currently im using portal for that

And now that i know portal can be made 1x1 this is gonna be more compact

Another thing i use for is unpenterable wall

[patent iron]

You can still just drop items into a portal though to cross dimension with them

[meager lily]

By using sensor and pufferfish jar i wanna use turret with recalll that

[meager lily]

Yeah thats what im currently using

Tho currrently i dont know any way to have turrets in a location and build a wall on a different location

The only im doing rn is by using

And propagate misslie through a portal

But that work 30% of the time

And i dont like propgate at alll because of the funky mechanic of all propgate spells will have their direction cast based on where you look at

This is what i mean by the propgate funky mechanic

i cast a spell and have propgate arc and when i move my head it just follow it

Also with reliquary and support for warp scroll blink on turret, i have devious idea for that, that i wont say rn til i see if it work or not

[tardy spire]

whats reliquary used for?

is it similar to the ars artifice casting tools?

or omega's durability casting

[covert topaz]

Neither, Reliquary stores a reference to a location or entity, and allows you to cast a spell on that target later

[tardy spire]

oh

sounds intresting

[covert topaz]

Has anyone had a chance to try out the 1.19.2 build? Unsure if there's any bugs or weird behaviour discovered

[ancient night]

if i want the reliquary to not use itself up, i know there's a config for this, but not how to change it

i imagine this is it

[mark_and_recall]
    #How much durability should targeting a player with Recall cost?
    #Range: 0 ~ 1000
    cost_player = 1000
    #How much durability should targeting an entity with Recall cost?
    #Range: 0 ~ 1000
    cost_entity = 250
    #How much durability should targeting a location with Recall cost?
    #Range: 0 ~ 1000
    cost_location = 50

alright i've experimented , i thin ki get it?

ok definitely got it

im just a noob

[covert topaz]

It's working for basic enchanting recipes currently

[covert topaz]

https://imgur.com/a/JysDVNE

[ionic scaffold]

A delay between all of the items and producing the result should probably be in place, along with the "place back into inventory"

Other than tbat, OOOOOOOOH

Automatic enchanting

[covert topaz]

That's the default crafting behaviour for Wixies, I'm just telling it the recipe and what to craft

I've got it working for default enchanting apparatus recipes and enchantment recipes, need to check the other types but I can't imagine they're common

[runic iris]

Oh, man. This would have made FTB Skies Expert mode so easy for early and mid-game.

You made so much stuff with the Enchanting Apparatus it was crazy.

You had most of the regular Ars recipies, tweaked of course for things like gold plates instead of gold blocks or ingots. And loads of new stuff.

Sadly, there was only one use for source circuits.

But if you could do wiki crafting it would have been so awesome. Every material for Pneumaticraft and Botania and ElementalCraft and much of AE2 had to go through the Enchanting Apparatus.

[meager lily]

Wait the idea of better wixi did not go to trash :O?

Yooo

So how does it work if i mind ask? like is this to compress the enchanting appartius to just a wixi block?

[covert topaz]

You'd use a wixie charm on the enchanting apparatus and it converts to a wixie station

[runic iris]

I wish I were good a block bench. I have such an idea for what that would look like. A cross between the existing apparatus and little 'golden cup' that animates like the original during a craft.

Sort of a miniature "cauldron" version of the apparatus.

[covert topaz]

If you fancy trying to draw something out on paper, I find that's often easier to convey the idea

[meager lily]

For me a grail with the top being the spiny half appartius

but flipped

Like the wixi cauldarn but its a grail like this

And the tip is the floating spinny

[cursive dock]

is there a way to say "just craft 2" or is it something i have to watch out for, as on normal wixie crafting?

[covert topaz]

Same as normal wixie crafting, easiest way would be putting only two reagents in the storage it pulls from, but if you're using a storage lectern that's less easy

[mystic crown]

Display cases are your friend

[ionic scaffold]

I'm assuming that it still has the "redstone deactivate" feature from most of the automation blocks

[sullen orchid]

I would imagine that we can still power the pedestals like normal with the wixie crafting?

[ionic scaffold]

a display case + comparator for whatever you're crafting would disable it in that case

you can power pedestals?

[sullen orchid]

yeah that's how you can turn off individual recipes for the wixie

item on pedestal tells them to craft it, power that pedestal and they ignore it

[ionic scaffold]

ooh

[covert topaz]

Yes

[cursive dock]

thanks for that

[cosmic fractal]

@covert topaz wanted to ask, how does arcane permanence works? It said surrounded chunks, so like 3x3 or?

[meager lily]

check your config

It start at 1x1 i think and can go all the way to 9x9

and you can add custom recipe that allow it to go to 9x9, like if you throw a gold block at the ritual brazier before activiting

[cosmic fractal]

Gotcha

Didn’t know you can do gold block

I wasted it

I already used it

It’s only one I found so far

Ohh

I realized when I read again, config to make it possible

[meager lily]

you can use KubeJS to add crafting recipe for it

[cosmic fractal]

Gotcha

[covert topaz]

Yeah, they're not technically supposed to be lootable, but that's waiting for a new Ars release

[covert topaz]

If I remember correctly, it defaults to 1x1, but can be changed in config

You should actually be able to increase the size in the config after placing it and it will update, however I think if you ever decreased the size it would leave the extra chunks force-loaded forever

[covert topaz]

Probably going to look at doing a release for 1.20.1 and 1.19.2 soon as nobody has raised any bugs

[ionic scaffold]

Hey uh, Jarva, we don't have arcane permanence enabled on this server...

found it in an end city

[sullen orchid]

wonder if it shows up in the Shady Wizard's trades...

[open dragon]

To be fair it's a bit behind with updates

[covert topaz]

Yeah, I've made a change to Ars to disable these being lootable, but waiting for it to release

They add all tablets into dungeon loot by default, with no way to disable from a mod

[covert topaz]

It does iirc

[ionic scaffold]

aah okay

[meager lily]

When reliquary Be added to turrets will it also support vertical and horizontal building?

like and if the turret is aiming up then the build will be horizontal and vise versa

[covert topaz]

Probably yeah, should use the direction the turret is placed

[meager lily]

i have an idea, is it possible to add config signal for remote index? IE you can only use the remote index if there is a mage tower/ or becon nearby within 60 block radius for example

[covert topaz]

Would probably be a lot of code that I'm not super interested in adding

[meager lily]

Hmm il try to make one, tho is it possible to have whitelist/blacklist system where simply the item will not be used unless a beacon is nearby?

[silver slate]

is the explorer scroll supposed to put me above ground if the dungeon is below ground

[covert topaz]

Yeah, it tries to find the safest place

I hadn't found a good way to find the structures bounding box

I may rework that to try find a place inside the structures bounding box

[silver slate]

was gonna say you could look at how corail tombstone does it, but i just checked and its

[covert topaz]

I have a way to get it now, but I didn't when I first implemented it

[silver slate]

ahh

[covert topaz]

so not revisited since, but it makes sense to do it

[silver slate]

it did put me like 300+ blocks above the dungeon so it would be nice

[covert topaz]

I just got it to spawn me in an ancient city, so this will be a lot more dangerous 😄

[silver slate]

Funny coincidence, the dungeon that I spawned above was also an ancient city

[ancient night]

is there a recipe for source stone walls in 1.20.1?

[covert topaz]

Should be in the latest version, if not I need to add it 🙈

[ancient night]

i'll double check i have the latest

[ancient night]

think they need to be added

[covert topaz]

Is it in the alpha though?

[ancient night]

oh was this the alpha, i thin kit was

my bad

one sec sorry

[covert topaz]

I'm unsure honestly

[ancient night]

im checking

xD

the file names were the same but i swapped it out, booting now

will i have issues if i dont delete the config files?

no such luck 😛

[covert topaz]

Will add that to my to-do list

[meager lily]

Will there be Journymap support to the Chunkloading Ritual?, like how steam n rail have support for journymap showing train track button on the side?

[covert topaz]

Not currently, I did look at the API but it's a bunch of networking stuff to get it working

[silver slate]

Had to swap async locator for structure essentials, seems to be working just fine with naturally generated scrolls, tho the one i grabbed from emi didnt seem to work

(swapped as i was experiencing a crash that structure essentials seemingly prevents)

[meager lily]

will you add partical or something to indeciate that the chunk is loaded? like you could add some ars ground partical at the edge of chunks so its not distracted

[covert topaz]

Is this on the alpha?

[silver slate]

it is yeah, alpha 6

[covert topaz]

Will check the spawned in scrolls

[silver slate]

Ooo i think the spawned in one just crashed me

[covert topaz]

Ah I think I fixed that on the new one I have in dev

When I rewrote to spawn in structures

[silver slate]

nice

[covert topaz]

Would a command work for the time being?

[covert topaz]

I'm removing buried treasure from the structure tag

I've just gotten 18 buried treasure chests back to back while testing

Nope, I'm actually a dumbass

They're not even on the structure tag, I was using the wrong one

[silver slate]

[covert topaz]

@meager lily I was working on adding turret support to recall, and I realised it's not currently possible, reliquaries clear their mark when put into an inventory, this is a purposeful choice to prevent people storing a reference to a player, location or entity for a long period of time, but for turret support to work the reliquary needs to enter an inventory, unsure the best way to proceed with this tbh

[sullen orchid]

hm. Could you have a turret be able to check a reliquary in the world next to it?

or perhaps a special turret might be needed

[covert topaz]

In world has the same effect to prevent hoppers being used to hold them indefinitely

[mystic crown]

Maybe a special type of turret? If you hold the reliquary in your hand and right click the turret?

[covert topaz]

Could potentially work, I need to decide how I want the break (unbinding) mechanic to work, when is it needed to break and when is okay

[meager lily]

I thought that was intentional, the ability to just store players location then put them in a chest or something for future uses, didn't know you against that, i also have my config with no durability for the entity and block and only 10 usage for players, um my most uses of this feature is not to snipe players like some voodoo doll but for secure builds and Redstone machines, could you separate the reliquary features or like when it placed on turret it doesn't support player usage?

[meager lily]

you could make it break the turret after the configured number receive the redstone activation amount

Like the reliquary have redstone detiction system when its next/on turret, or when "fake player" use it (idk what turrets are registered) the turret break

Hence the name "UNSTABLE reliquary"

[covert topaz]

#addon-announcements message 1.20.1-1.4.0 is now out

[covert topaz]

It feels very powerful to be able to store a reference to a player or entity and be able to access it much later if you chose. However with the requirement of the Marked effect on the player, it may be possible that's no longer an issue. It would just be entities which I think is much less problematic.

[sullen orchid]

I added this to my Arcane Isles instance and, despite how much I like the enchanter's eye to access storage lecterns because I like the emergent features, it is nice to have the warp index on a hotkey

[runic iris]

I want to try the rituals for the new islands with the towers.

But my AI is still 1.19 due to all the Hex Casting stuff. I'd have to do like Xacris and cook up a 1.20 pack for it.

[sullen orchid]

oh I'm still in 1.19, Additions has the Warp Index in 1.19

[runic iris]

Ah, I misunderstood what version you were on. I've got Additions in 1.19 for the index. It let me build out the island a lot easier with the hotkey access for items and none of the weird delay for the scry eye cast of .

[covert topaz]

There's the 1.19.2 alpha posted above that should be stable enough to try out

[ionic scaffold]

woooooo!! warp nexus time

[meager lily]

Do you mind if i DM you one of the biggest thing il do with the reliquary turret support?

[covert topaz]

Sure, feel free

[meager lily]

is the secert room still there?

[covert topaz]

It has a chance to generate with one

[covert topaz]

#addon-announcements message

Ars Additions 1.4.0 is now out for 1.19.2

[meager lily]

what is the chance? 0 room found out of 3

[covert topaz]

should be roughly 1 in 6

[wind temple]

How does one use the Wixie enchanting apparatus

[covert topaz]

Set the recipe and have everything needed for it in a bound chest

[wind temple]

Set the recipe as in, right clicking on it right ?

and how do i summon the wixie, do i right click the enchanting apparatus with it ?

[sullen orchid]

oh, so the wixie enchanting and whatnot is on 1.19 as well now?

[covert topaz]

Yeah, shift+right click the enchanting apparatus with a wixie charm

[covert topaz]

Yep, complete feature parity as of the last update

[sullen orchid]

coolio. I'll update my Arcane Isles instance and give things a once over in there

[covert topaz]

Let me know what you think of the new additions when you've got it running

[runic iris]

I need to update and see how hard it is to turn on the new ritual for the tower structures.

[covert topaz]

I didn't add a ritual to spawn them this update, didn't get time to work on it before I wanted to release

Next on my list is a couple more decorative blocks and then maybe the locate structure ritual or the source spawner

[meager lily]

you sure you added the secert room?

i found 10 nexus towers still no room, also what should i do after maxing out the warp nexus?

[covert topaz]

What do you mean?

[covert topaz]

Yep, I saw it to test stuff before releasing the 1.19.2 version

[meager lily]

The nexus thingy can hold only 9

warp scroll

[covert topaz]

Yes

You have 9 destinations

On quick access

You can also use the nexus scrolls like a stabilized warp scroll to get back to a tower, this may change in a future update, but it works for now

[meager lily]

Lmao i finily got a room and i got it by using one of those ars ruin

[covert topaz]

Hahah, very nice

[covert topaz]

Did you figure out the entrance yet?

[runic iris]

One thing I would caution about any Structure Compass-like feature is that they are horribly laggy. Having to force a server to search a bunch of chunks, possibly lazy loading them and then keep that data on hand usually has poor performance.

And if you don't have pre-loaded chunks that may impact servers that frequently change their world generation for whatever reason.

[covert topaz]

I've already built full compat with asynclocator, so people can install that to allow the search to happen on another thread

Source Spawner seems to be functional

This shows up whenever anything that searches for Structures is used

[runic iris]

Threw the 1.19.2 version of the latest Ars Additions on my Arcane Isles playthrough.

Only saw a few oddities in the logs so far. Testing glyph making for the new glyphs and so far working.

Remote is working fine still, both regular and the warp version.

Scary thought: what if a scribes table to ask an autocrafting Wixie to make resources that the table could not find in a local storage?

[covert topaz]

An autocrafter requester is being theorycrafted

[runic iris]

hence the scariness of the thought. That would be a really interesting but surprising ability.

I'm trying to think of a use case for on-demand crafting where a non-Ars system could ask the Wixie to build something.

Sort of a super-crafter for a mod like Refined Storage or AE2.

Since she's basically a Molecular Assembler, but for potions, food or in theory the apparatus recipes.

(And really, anything else you could use on the cauldron or drop into a pedestal).

Actually, now that I think of it, if my request for persistent naming of platforms is accepted then you might be able to do this with just 'example crafting' today.

[covert topaz]

example crafting?

[runic iris]

(Dangit. Now I want to setup an Ars fork and see how hard this would be to code and submit an MR for it.)

The wixie crafts based on example. You click an item on the cauldron or put it into the adjacent pedestal or platform.

So you have to make at least one of something. It's an interesting gate mechanism that I wish more mods used.

Gives more value to quests in progression, Expert and challenge packs.

[covert topaz]

So I'm confused, what would be the new functionality?

[runic iris]

You don't just have to make the item and put into your inventory for the quest reward. When the wixie is your crafter, you also need that item to automate.

[runic iris]

Well, I've talked about two different things. One is the ability of another block to request an item from the Wixie without using the pedestal/platform system. The other is how you might do something similar today but does require you keep an eample item on hand.

This other example isn't good for use with the table in particular. As the table will just yoink the example item out of the pedestal or platform.

And changingclearing a wixie's cauldron-click-on crafting task requires breaking the cauldron.

[covert topaz]

It wouldn't be hard to do the former, that's part of the plan in the requester

But the right-click crafting is supposed to be deprecated, so would probably need to plan for that

[runic iris]

It is just that I'm working on getting the thorns 3 book for the glyph of retaliate and I thought: wouldn't it be neat if a nearby wixie would just start crafting a book, then lapis blocks, source gem blocks and then start making Thorns I to III to hand off to the table?

[meager lily]

yes

also someone need to check fliter chances

[runic iris]

But, dependency resolution is one of the more expensive and difficult things to do in computing.

[meager lily]

This is not real i got every single fliter before any other glyph from codex entry

[covert topaz]

public AbstractSpellPart getRandomGlyph(List<AbstractSpellPart> glyphs, RandomSource random) {
  return glyphs.get(random.nextInt(0, glyphs.size()));
}

it's random

as much as it can be

[runic iris]

That's neat. Realtime updates of the jars stacked in your inventory

[covert topaz]

New Sourcestone blocks

[runic iris]

oh. I like that. I may have to hold off on my Ars-only rebuild of my Wizard's house for these.

The trapdoor hinting at the patterns of a rune is a nice repeated motif. And the balance on the door with the amount of texture and the minor faded gold on the handles is just so.

[covert topaz]

As with almost every texture in this mod, all compliments go to @orchid rover for their amazing work

[runic iris]

I already spent quite a bit of time incorporating the new chain types into my Arcane Isles builds. And some updates for the new wall blocks in my hanging-over-the-void Enchanting Apparatus Station.

(I have a 'theme' where the storage and enchanting area appears to have suffered from a bit of a 'lab accident')

[covert topaz]

Feel free to tag us in any pictures of your builds using Ars Additions stuff, would be great to see what people make

[ionic scaffold]

Ooooooh.... alternate use for containment jars...

This would add so much more functionality for compatibilty with other mods that only drop certain items through specific death types (like, Create Enchantment Industry's dropping of Experience Nuggets for crushing wheel kills)

[meager lily]

Wait so autocrafter is on the "considering" list?

[covert topaz]

Requester

[meager lily]

what would happen if you use this with decoy in the jar or lighting in the jar

[meager lily]

Requester sry yeah

like requestify?

[covert topaz]

Wixie is already an autocrafter, and enchanting apparatus autocrafter is already added

Potentially, it's theorycrafting at the moment

[meager lily]

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/rs-requestify

like this?

[covert topaz]

Nothing most likely

[meager lily]

or the ME requester version of AE2

[covert topaz]

Yeah essentially

[meager lily]

Damn thats hype af

It gonna make ars storage system on par with the big boys

AE2 and RS

[meager lily]

I do recommend going with AE2 version if you gonna look into some code

[covert topaz]

It'll probably be fairly bespoke due to how Wixies work, but will check for inspiration

[meager lily]

Well one idea i could give rn

Is look into turning that one Ars chest

Into storage for recipes

Like how the crafting disk work in AE2

Something like this

The repostery i think its called

Where you can store Book shelfs into them

And these books are different from normal book, you can drop recipe into it

Like when you right click the book a UI open (supporting JEI/REI drag feature) and you can put the recipe there

Tho would you want that system to be linked with the storage lectern or its sparate thing?

Like requesting crafting from wixi or the wyrm

[ionic scaffold]

an issue with the nexus system, I've put 3 scrolls into a warp nexuss and then placed another nearby, their inventory was shared letting me use them like waystones (perfect!)

I leave the chunk (this entire area is chunk loaded) and go back, and their inventories have been wiped entirely

[covert topaz]

Anything in your logs?

Server or singleplayer?

1.4.0?

[ionic scaffold]

Server, Latest Version, nothing in my logs personally

all I have screenshot wise unfortunately is me setting the scrolls, and deleting the homes after warping to them and then when i got back to it

The chunks which contained the nexus are forceloaded by FTB Chunks

[covert topaz]

Interesting, I'll take a look into it to see if I can replicate it

Server didn't restart at all between it happening and you didn't relog?

[covert topaz]

And does relogging/restarting fix it?

[ionic scaffold]

all I did was leave the chunks that they were stored in, the server is due its daily automatic reset in 12 minutes so i'll see if its resolved after that

[ionic scaffold]

Sorry, I fell asleep there for a bit

but the server restart did kick the nexus to work again

but leaving the area again did do the same thing

[covert topaz]

Interesting, what about relogging? Did that fix it?

The issue I think is the storage not being synced when the player goes near the nexus

and when you open the nexus after leaving the area, is it also completely empty? or is it just the menu?

[ionic scaffold]

completely empty, and the nexus gives the "empty" message