Discussion

[blazing heath]

Server admins on a generational run rn

absurdly good support

[lunar cradle]

Any advice on making a lingering spell last longer? I'm trying to farm a drop from a mod that is way too good at preventing fake players (auto mob killing blocks) from farming the drops, but I've found that slinging a linger -> heal spell does kill the wither skellies efficiently + without using my sword + lasts longer

And the spell actually counts as me killing em

On 1.20.1, btw

Trying to use wall-orbit yielded longer-lasting results but tended to cause FPS lag

Actually. How the hell my laptop is handling orbit-wall-orbit on this spell JUST FINE baffles me, more concerned for TPS now

[lunar cradle]

Okay, Christ. Orbit-Wall-Orbit actually changed the TPS

The server is usually HELLA resilient. Noping out on that

[last obsidian]

tryna put vex on orbit and have the orbit just trigger instantly instead of having to hit something
i tried with and without sensitive but just doesnt do
i might be dumb

[turbid light]

So you want the orbits to hit you?

[loud dawn]

well idk what ur going for but if you want to activate the orbits maybe you can summon something at your position for the orbits to collide with

orbit sensitive works too but youll have to be next to a block

[turbid light]

If you truly want to hit yourself with orbit, cast

[loud dawn]

?

[turbid light]

Yeah, but only 1.21

[pseudo slate]

hey. is there a way to make a spell orbit around the caster and home onto a target when needed? like Carian Phalanx from elden ring?

[turbid light]

Nope

[unique spear]

Is there a way to make a burst spell only target players?
Using Ars Elemntal and Ars additions

Wanting to make a heal spell similar to Kokomi’s skill from genshin the only issue I’m running into is making it only target players and not the enemies

[flint maple]

Use a filter player?

[unique spear]

There isn’t one in this pack so was just wondering if it was possible without it

[dense mountain]

That's why an addon made the filter glyph becuase you can't do it in base AN

[flint idol]

Just had a fun idea for a bastard child of vanilla encoded storage tech and modded.

Projectile pierce 8 interact through a line of 9 display cases. Each monitoring separate lectern networks for whatever item you just fired through

That would tell you the bit code for that item with an insanely tiny footprint for the encoder. Practically instant too. And not needing to deal with carts

Even thinking of this will piss off vanilla storage tech guys. I love it

Two turrets and get an 18 bit code. Have fun with your quarter million unique IDs

[flint idol]

Fun alphanumeric 7-segment display

Pierce from top or bottom. To set the individual segments. Tiny encoder to get that. Each potential symbol on the screen could be set up with just a repo for each segment

[shy crystal]

Ok hear me out

What if

You do retaliate > >

Right after this spl

spe*

spell*

oops

To pickup the loot

does that work??

[flint idol]

So. Two things

1. The y value damage bonus on wind shear is at about 10 blocks off the ground. So all that height doesn't do anything.
2. Without the iframe skips from kindling 3 (and therefore this doesn't work at all for 1.21), this is just a single shear and then a heal.
3. The reason it one taps any mob is that they despawn when >128 away from a player. They're not being damaged to death, they just stop existing. So no drops

[deft badger]

4. Off by two error

[turbid light]

I had the same despawning issue while creating my Bodyslam spell

It took me quite a while to figure out why sheeps fell down well but creepers disappeared

[shy crystal]

But I think the idea is interesting

Could potentially do something with it by changing some stuff

like maybe having the warp cords under y 300

instead of 300,000

And changing how the target gets damaged

Also as it says in the spell's tags, it is from 1.20.1

[turbid light]

This should in theory do practically the same but launching the target instead of teleporting them

[shy crystal]

I take back this

Not at all interesting

Warp only works if it is in the void

tp-ing them 200 block up is also useless

launch with amplifies does the same

The spell was sort of useless lol

[ionic stone]

I mean, if you just want to delete your opponent from existence without actually fighting him

[shy crystal]

Void also does that tho lpl

But sometimes in pvp, players carry warp scrolls in their hotbar to quickly get out of trouble

nvm I lost it

But there is some thread about the largest explosion out there in #1063650997135757393 lol

[blazing heath]

infinitely scaling wind shear when

[flint idol]

If you specifically want drops, you can add a name on there

But then you'll need collection under the warp point

[turbid light]

Hmm
Gotta find the damage function

[somber cobalt]

Replace it with the mace function and reverse its direction, and you may be on to a winner.

[blazing heath]

don't think so

just remove the wind shear damage cap

[bold verge]

im pretty sure the damage cap is hard coded

[neat cloud]

Is there any list of cool spells?

[flint maple]

ars.guide has a spell compendium iirc

[bold verge]

ars.guide my beloved

[ionic stone]

i ain't gonna lie, ars.guide's offensive spells are filled with low-level spells that can't hit anything
like what do you mean Zap does less than 20 damage

[somber cobalt]

Lava’s Bane, Yeet, Struck with Impunity (though it may not be on the guide yet).

[long sorrel]

Anyone have the numbers on how much buffs 🤔 need to make a sphere ~128 blocks across 😬👉👈 and I'm thinking imma need to leverage infinite glyphs... but I'm not sure how many I'm thinking +30 maybe 🤔

[gritty cargo]

use domain atp

[long sorrel]

Domain atp?

[flint idol]

I believe it's one radius per aoe

[azure ice]

Submit your own

[turbid light]

D = 3 + 2 ×
= (D - 3) / 2 ≈ 62

[deft badger]

128 across

63 glyphs

?

[blazing heath]

Domain at this point

[long sorrel]

It took about 63 actually😅, my brother was able to get on, after a bit, and he helped me count things out

[light sand]

Im tryna make a spell for my enchanter sword, does flare not do anything unless the target is burning?

[azure ice]

I believe that's correct, put fire aspect on your sword. Also remember iframes

[light sand]

Ok, i just did, but then it makes me also catch on fire because the flames go everywhere

[next gust]

Can someone help me create a powerful spell to oneshot 100hp players without wall as the end isn't open yet on the Server

[gritty cargo]

what addons, and what version of minecraft?

[next gust]

1.20 ars Elemental

[turbid light]

I guess you could use Harm Cannon, as you don't need the End for T3 and burst

[stiff barn]

are there ways for the missile or some other form glyph to go through blocks ?

[blazing heath]

[agile stratus]

hey chat

im having some troubel cascading off of cold snap

anyone have any ideas how to fix it?

thats just an example

i am using blockshapers too

@wind sandal this specififxally is teh spell i was trying to recreate

its supposed to cast flare on the ice from colsnap

but it isnt

[wind sandal]

This is what it does for me. Are you seeing something different?

[agile stratus]

im getting the same thing

but previously on a test world the cold snap blocks would act as a catalyst for ignite flare to do its thing

weird thing is

i can use the fire from magefire as a ctalyst for itself and other actions that previously worked on cold snap

[wind sandal]

I guess I'm not fully understanding what you mean by "act as a catalyst". Do you mean an effect like the Throngle spell?

[agile stratus]

yes kind of

basically cast the spell off of the block

[blazing heath]

I think you need

[agile stratus]

lemem try

nope

[blazing heath]

What mc version

[agile stratus]

1.20

[turbid light]

This won't work cuz falling blocks (the ice shards) can't trigger or

[turbid light]

To do this you would require
⛰️

As you need to remove the ice shards to be able to place the blocks. And the only way I know is transforming them into blocklings which are promptly dispelled

[turbid light]

That is just because, as triggers on ice blocks, triggers on flames, even magical ones.
But as far as I know it shouldn't work on magical flames that are falling
-# like

[latent mesa]

Hi, does anyone has a suggestion for a strong damaging spell limited to level 1 glyphs?

[turbid light]

The Magician's Railgun, created by Gweaven (https://discord.com/channels/743298050222587978/1141341426223960064), uses the shaper's focus to launch blocks at your enemies, dealing massive ammounts of damage

My prefered version is *3 , dealing 25 dmg
But the damage scales with block hardness, so launching obsidian (replacing with ) deals 75 ish dmg

[shy crystal]

Graph man out here promoting obi railgun as always 😄

[turbid light]

My duty
My honour

[latent mesa]

Interesting. I have been using a combination of Projectil, Harm, Amplify, Amplify, Bubble, Amplify, Amplify, Delay, Harm, Amplify to deal 25 damage, but I have been unlocking new glyphs as shock and so on and I wasn't sure what to do. I will have to test yours

[shy crystal]

https://discord.com/channels/743298050222587978/1287559002523172956

[blazing heath]

i got news for you

[ruby knoll]

@latent mesa

What are I-Frames?

I-Frames or Immunity Frames, are durations where a player is invulnerable to damage. Ways to bypass these immunity frames are referred to as I-Frame Skips.

In the base mod, there are no I-Frame skips available. In 1.21.1, Ars Elemental adds a glyph called Nullify Defense that will reset an entities I-Frames. In older versions there are other I-Frame skips available.

Please check out "What is an I-Frame" on Ars.Guide for more information.

[blazing heath]

Add delay between the harms

Way more damage

[latent mesa]

Yeah, I added a delay

Who change my username?

[forest mortar]

probably me

but not recently

[turbid light]

Wait...
You can do that?!!

[flint idol]

Nope

[somber cobalt]

“Not recently”. Buncle, EVERYONE’S a buncle now. Except Hot Rock Juice, somehow. This is very new.

[blazing heath]

yes, server admins can rename members

[flint idol]

Better than hot buncle juice

[turbid light]

XD

[turbid light]

Even Mira4Buncle

[azure ice]

Yes we can Graphbuncle

[turbid light]

Well

Seems like I have no choice

-# I'll have to update my profile pic

[agile stratus]

Qq

Has anyone found a way to get around summoning sickness?

So far my only idea is to first place a bunch of dispel runes and then step on them after every cast

[gritty cargo]

I dont think summoning sickness is dispellable

[agile stratus]

Fuck

Telefeast milk then ?

[somber cobalt]

It is not.

[gritty cargo]

?

[agile stratus]

Telefeast

The glyph that makes you consume something instantly

And milk

With it's various healing properties

[gritty cargo]

??

There’s a glyph like that?

Is this like trinkets or smth?

[blazing heath]

Exactly, devour from trinkets

or devour soul

Not sure

[agile stratus]

it might be an adon glyph

[blazing heath]

yes

From trinkets

goober

[gritty cargo]

Ew trinkets

[blazing heath]

indeed

[proud kindle]

I’m not a buncle yet.

Probably better that I’m not, since people can associate the name with my addons.

[flint idol]

Lyrellibuncle?

Starellion

[somber cobalt]

yet

[wind sandal]

Is there any way to use the 'interact' glyph to break a block using a pickaxe? Trying to automate mining with a specific pick

[turbid light]

with the pick in your off-hand

But I'm not sure if it'll work to break blocks

[blazing heath]

Mira isn't a buncle either

yet

[wind sandal]

Yeah that's what I thought of too but it doesn't break the block and it doesn't look like interact supports

[turbid light]

Maybe it tries to right-click

So it wouldn't work to break blocks

Still

I think minecraft is broken enough to apply Fortune effects when you have the pick in your off-hand and the book in the main

[flint idol]

Interact on its own is a right click, yeah. 1.21 has a modifier to make it a left click. But I think it still wouldn't work to break something with a pickaxe because you normally hold the left click to break, not a single instant left click/punch

[wind sandal]

I was kind of hoping that if the pickaxe was fast enough then a "click" would do it. Would be kind of cool to have apply to the interact glyph to change it from a left/right click to a left/right click & hold for a period of time.

Was trying to setup this up with a turret to do an auto-fortune/crushing setup but wanted to make use of my fortune 7 pick instead of just the 3 luck or whatever can be applied to the break glyph

there are a few other mods that would let me use my pickaxe like that but trying to stay as a magic purist in atm10

[turbid light]

I don't believe this would work with turrets as they lack arms to hold your pick

[flint idol]

ATM10 should have the update to allow interact to act as left click. It's definitely worth trying out. I'm using interact turrets to dynamically set item frames for filters

[wind sandal]

I figured it would use an item from a nearby inventory? I thought I had seen that on one of the glyphs descriptions but I could also just be making that up entierly lol

[wind sandal]

This is what I've used to try to use a pickaxe in my offhand to break a block. I've also tried adding before the interact to try to increase the duration the left click would be going for but what I suspect is that at each resolution of the spell its just a single instant left click command

I'm not actually sure that is behaving correctly. That should left click something, when left clicking an item in an item frame it pops out. When I use that spell it rotates the item instead which is the right click behavior.

[fervent hawk]

as far as I'm aware, that isn't a function of

[wind sandal]

It does say "Amplify will use left-click instead of right-click on blocks" so maybe I can't left click entities with it then

That does work then. I can do on a block of redstone ore and it lights up

[fervent hawk]

I'm struggling to think of why you would want a left click function that can't break blocks or damage entities... but I also kinda don't want interact to be able to break blocks or damage entities, personally, because we have other glyphs that do those things

can light up redstone, probably also play a note block...

[wind sandal]

same, I can't think of many blocks I would left click without intending to break

maybe putting out fire without using ?

[flint idol]

You can pop items out of frames with harm btw

Other block you'd left click, and in fact the reason I requested it in the first place: display case

[fervent hawk]

that function probably needs a lot of extra documentation on what it can't do then

it does say blocks specifically, at least

[wind sandal]

Interesting, what is the use case for turret clicking a display case?

[flint idol]

Left click will reduce display case counts. Right click increases. Interact with an item in an adjacent chest can set the item

[wind sandal]

Yeah I know that, just curious as to what use case you had for needing to reduce display case counts using the interact glyph.
I could see for my essense farm where each type of essense has its own display case to toggle a starbuncle on/off it would be nice to have like a ⛓️ spell to handle increasing or decreasing counts on all of my display cases in one go, but that seems very niche

[flint idol]

It's to be able to dynamically set and change display case numbers and items using turrets. But it also effectively allows for any arbitrary automation with many other mods as well

[deft gate]

it not launching,, ive tried changing leap to launch to no avail

Focus of blockshaping is equipped yes

[potent pier]

What’s the spell you’re using?

[agile lava]

Is it possible to pour water in hell with the help of magic?

[azure ice]

No, it's not

[quartz hull]

Can sense magic work on other (non-magic) mobs with a filter?

[tacit wyvern]

Nope

[chilly plume]

Hey does anyone know if for Ars Elemental are any of the elemental armors just better than the others? sorry if this is the wrong place to ask

[tacit wyvern]

Wdym?

[turbid light]

As far as I know, none have better stats than the others

[chilly plume]

Like the elemental armor upgrades I wasent sure if there was one that was just straight up better than the others or are just more for their own personal flare

[chilly plume]

Thank you!! just wanted to make sure I wasent trolling before I made my first set haha

[tacit wyvern]

As for which is better it really depends on what you like lol

[chilly plume]

Sweet thats good to know I was looking at pyromancer and aqua mancer but wanted to make sure there wasent something I was missing in terms of their uses or better stats dps wise

[proud kindle]

Statwise they are identical, but the spell schools themselves are not 100% balanced, so depending on your playstyle and personal spell preferences you might get more bang for your buck from one school vs another.

Or just download Ars Elemancy and then you don’t have to choose between them.😁

[tacit wyvern]

" but what if I choose yes"

[stiff barn]

from not enough glyphs the propagate plane , how can i use it to make a aoe blink to target location (via warp scroll)
or is it not possible?

[oblique ginkgo]

the advertising is real

[tacit wyvern]

Basically just have a warp scroll in the offhand when you use the spell

[alpine steeple]

Do I ever need more than one Amplify for the Break spell?

[dense mountain]

Just one should get you all the way to obsidian

[neon umbra]

my favorite spell is

[tacit wyvern]

This is fair

[turbid light]

As a Railgun engineer, I must agree

[sullen sky]

i need to play around in 1.21

[shy crystal]

you need to play around in 1.21

[sullen sky]

https://tenor.com/view/sir-gif-10474184713744957497

[tacit wyvern]

but no ars plus

[shy crystal]

[ivory bloom]

But what if I...

[tacit wyvern]

why do you need that final delay?

[ivory bloom]

I guess I dont

[sinful glade]

Anyone have a spell for me that can move flawless certus blocks?

[tacit wyvern]

Certus? What pickaxe level does it need

[sinful glade]

It budding blocks from AE2

They need to be moved

[radiant socket]

Some properties as budding amethyst I belive

Can't be silk touched

I use mekanism cardboard boxes for them

[potent pier]

I believe you can hit them with Launch to give them sand like gravity

If they fall onto something like a torch, they’ll break and you can collect the

[radiant socket]

Ohh right you can get stuff like reinforced deepslate from the ancient city with this as well no?

[potent pier]

Probably!

That might be more of a maybe
That stuff isn’t breakable, like bedrock, is it might not be moveable?

[radiant socket]

Just tested, works for budding amethys and reinforced deepslate

[potent pier]

Cool!

[radiant socket]

Can't test for certus since I don't have ae2 in my pack, but it should work

[flint idol]

You can silk them, but the flawless buds will always be reduced a level even with that

[sinful glade]

Launch might be good idea ill give it a try

[oblique ginkgo]

any block mover works (even knockback if you feel like calculating its trajectory)

[hollow lagoon]

anyone know a way to improve this so i dont have to use

[shy crystal]

omg that looks so cool

isnt that the new relic update

[hollow lagoon]

idk what your focused on

[shy crystal]

the bows

btw

where even is the spell lol

[hollow lagoon]

its the reliquified relic mod for ars nouveau

[shy crystal]

yeah that added the bows relatively recently

[hollow lagoon]

i didnt know that

but either way

[shy crystal]

ehh its been a month at leadt

anyway

where is the spell

[hollow lagoon]

the spell is arc projectile 2x 4x

[oblique ginkgo]

wait WoG doesnt even need explosion anymore

peak

[gritty cargo]

Is this for damage or what?

[turbid light]

Terrain dmg

[tranquil crystal]

is there a way to make explosion only damage mobs and not destroy anything?

[tacit wyvern]

[tranquil crystal]

would that lessen the damage or

[tacit wyvern]

Well yes but actually no
I haven't tested it much but I think you only need one and then you can add more
Also will stop it from destroying items

[tranquil crystal]

wait so add a dampen and then add what for more damage?

[tacit wyvern]

Amp or aoe

[tranquil crystal]

oh ok thanks

[azure ice]

You can dampen and then amplify as much as you want

[tacit wyvern]

Thank you that's what I thought

[turbid light]

As far as I remember from testing in 1.20.1, it reduces the damage and push so much that I rather summoned water to deal with it

[solemn topaz]

I am confused about the extend time with the self conjure magelight. Without any extend time, it gives nightvision for 30 seconds. If you max extend time, it gives nightvision for 1:30 min. That doesn't feel right to me. Am I doing something wrong?
I am playing FTB Evolution

[potent pier]

No, the amount each is fairly small for

[solemn topaz]

ah okay, then that doesn't seem worth it, because it costs a lot more mana

[potent pier]

Yeah, depends on what youre doing

Yeah its more mana, but its also more time you get without having to cast it again

Its more worth it with higher mana regen, where the extra cost wont bother you as much

[solemn topaz]

that is understandable, I just kinda hoped it would go to 5 minutes or something

[stiff barn]

how does projectile -> rune -> exchange work

i tried it on a friend thinking we just get exchanged when he steps on it, isntead it teleported him to a random place and died in a wall

[flint maple]

how random

[stiff barn]

it teleported him into my source farm

[fervent hawk]

with spell turrets in that farm?

[stiff barn]

while for me and a golem i tested out it teleported me into another contraption

[flint maple]

it should have picked up the caster position but if it was a permanent rune it must have tried to exchange with a fake player

[stiff barn]

yes actually teleported to spellturrets

[fervent hawk]

yeah, I was thinking the fakeplayer too lol

[tacit wyvern]

That's interesting

[fervent hawk]

need to use the player

otherwise runes use the fakeplayer to cast

[flint maple]

def needs a fakeplayer check for the exchange tho

[fervent hawk]

yeah

[stiff barn]

so it is something unintended then?

[tacit wyvern]

Pretty much

[stiff barn]

wait does it teleport like then to the last used spellturret ?

[fervent hawk]

yeah, that's where the fakeplayer is

one hard working invisible mage is powering all the turrets in the world

[stiff barn]

wait when the rune glyph is used the default target is that fake player ?

[tacit wyvern]

Technically no the target is the person who walks over it

[flint maple]

not target but caster, and only if the rune is made permanent

if the rune is temporary, the caster is still whoever made the rune in theory

unless when the sensitive rune thing was added the rules changed a bit

[tacit wyvern]

Oh Ic now there is only one fake player (or fake player tag)

[stiff barn]

well atleast i can write my friend that he died to a bug

well it teleported me under the nether

[flint idol]

Unintended feature

[stiff barn]

so there are 1 fakeplayer per dimension ?

[flint idol]

Have a dozen turrets doing random things and a roulette rune

[stiff barn]

when you mentioned 1 fakeplayer i thought i can do crossdimensional teleport kinda

[tacit wyvern]

The player would have to be loaded I think

[stiff barn]

and else it defaults to 0,0,0 ?

[flint idol]

No clue tbh. Could test with a spawn chunk spell turret casting something stupid like touch mage light on a 5 second timer. Set a rune exchange in the nether, and then wait for the 5 seconds to be up, step in and see what happens

[tacit wyvern]

Otherwise there would be no caster as far as I can tell

[flint idol]

"rune of doom"

Checks out

[flint idol]

You're the caster there unless it's permanent

[stiff barn]

cast -> creates the rune -> walk over rune .... death

[tacit wyvern]

More testing might be needed

[stiff barn]

rune created from the spell

[shy crystal]

Hmmm that would just make u "touch" and if there is anything in ur ig hitscan within range, the spell will activate

[flint idol]

Id expect tossing an item into that rune to teleport you to it (swap places with the item)

[shy crystal]

This has a lot of potential i feel like

[tacit wyvern]

So it casts exchange on the person who walks over it...

[flint idol]

Swapping places with the caster yeah

[tacit wyvern]

What happens with

[flint idol]

But the caster swapping with themselves.... Don't know what I'd expect tbh

[shy crystal]

o no

[stiff barn]

also permanent rune of touch exchange exhbits the same

[flint idol]

Probably still swaps with a fake player. Maybe it's default sitting at 0,0,0

But the odd thing is that 000 should exist in a non-death capacity

What Minecraft version are you in?

[tacit wyvern]

Runes dont have fake players?

[stiff barn]

1.21.1

[flint idol]

Because the world goes down to -64

[shy crystal]

let me try in 1.16 hold on

lol

hopefully i dont get stuck

[stiff barn]

doesnt nether only go to 0

[flint idol]

Rune sensitive was added in 1.18 to set the spell context as the player

For rune sensitive exchange and rune sensitive pickup

[shy crystal]

wdym will that not work in 1.16?

o

[stiff barn]

tried it and died ?

[tacit wyvern]

Aku rq try

[stiff barn]

doesnt do shit

[shy crystal]

no

[flint idol]

They're not using sensitive here. But it's more that fake player context may have changed there as well

[tacit wyvern]

Ok then very interesting

[stiff barn]

seems like self exchange just exchanges myself with myself

[shy crystal]

i dont have exchange yet
(´= ⩊ =`)

[flint idol]

Don't actually remember how caster context worked on runes in 1.16

Pretty sure I had a permanent exchange rune set up at my base, but it only sometimes worked for sending things home to warp me home

Touch blink with a scroll in offhand to send a chicken home to teleport me home

Since rune sensitive blink wasn't a thing yet. And neither were stabilized scrolls if I recall

[stiff barn]

but then i assume touch exchange on a rune should either do just nothing or some other special effect instead of what its doing rn right?

[tacit wyvern]

It should except for the fact that it's the rune that casts the spell on you

[stiff barn]

so the castercontext for runes should be that whoever triggered it would also become the caster of the following ?

[tacit wyvern]

Not quite it's more like the rune uses on the entity

[stiff barn]

are runes also casted by the before mentioned fake player?

[tacit wyvern]

That touched the rune

[tacit wyvern]

The effect might be a fake player but the spell that made the rune is casted by a real player

[stiff barn]

like maybe (wild guess have no clue about the workings of the mod) the fakeplayer casts the touchspell but doesnt get teleported to the runes location

[tacit wyvern]

The touch would be aimed at the breaker of the rune

[stiff barn]

the targeting of the spell makes sense and prolly works the same as when a player targets something, i just wonder how the rune casts spells under the hood
if turrets are 1 fakeplayer getting teleported to the turret, then shooting the spell like a player, i assume any inventory checks try to use the nearest inventory then it would make sense that runes are also using that fakeplayer as casted but the fakeplayer doesnt get teleported to the rune first. which would make sense bc for the targetselection i assume he wouldn't have to be there

it would kind of also make sense to me if for each dimension you have such a fake player and that fake player is by default located at 0,0,0

for a bit of testing, if i load a new world and test it out in the overworld it sends me to 0,0,0

in the nether when i tried it that nether hasn't had a spellturret active in it yet

[stiff barn]

i made a post in bug report
https://discordapp.com/channels/743298050222587978/1388946276942610582

[hollow egret]

Omg all this time wasted

[rotund sail]

Hi guys, do you know any combination of glyphs that makes enemies drop items instead of mine?

[turbid light]

Nope

Not possible with base ars

[plucky kernel]

can i make some type of damaging aura? even a floating orb around me?

[oblique ginkgo]

[shy crystal]

there will be something like that in new ars plus update i think

i hope

[oblique ginkgo]

orbit

[shy crystal]

[shy crystal]

How does one make use of

To make a zone where players' mana depletes

I tried using the clurge by mojobuncle because i saw how it keeps explosions going for long

didn't really work

[flint maple]

dots probably

[shy crystal]

especially because linger isn't allowed after burst

[flint maple]

you don't need a lot of damage, you need a lot of damage ticks over time

even if the invulnerability check should work and avoid depleting if the iframes shield the damage already

having a combo of dots probably depletes some mana

[shy crystal]

oh right it won't deplete unless u also harm them

[shy crystal]

wdym by dots tho

[flint maple]

smth like

[shy crystal]

oh

has this been done before?

[flint maple]

idk tbh

mana bubble also have a built-in status prevention

consumes a bit of mana trying to prevent, so maybe one could try exploit that instead

[shy crystal]

has this been done before?

[flint maple]

[shy crystal]

⚡

credits: Graphbuncle

[turbid light]

Does it consume other people's mana if cast on them?

Cuz that would be awesome

[turbid light]

When? What?

Also:
🛡️
-# This is hoping that the shield prevents every damage instance, not only those that are permited by IFrames

[shy crystal]

oh wait this might be by someone else lol

[turbid light]

Prolly

[shy crystal]

Maybe

let me confirm

[turbid light]

I usually don't play with lightning

[turbid light]

@blazing heath Interesting concept. You in for testing?

[shy crystal]

it was infact, not by u lol

You know how people ask for how to make a no magic zone

this could work like that too

[turbid light]

XD

Just melting some CPUs. No biggie

[shy crystal]

Yeah

It will also work as a no fps/tps zone

lol

[turbid light]

Btw

[shy crystal]

Oh ur right

-# For now

[turbid light]

Angry Vexes!!!

[shy crystal]

bruh

anyways

[turbid light]

😶

[shy crystal]

Can you make a linger zone that does lightning if you step in it?

something with filters

[turbid light]

Sure

[shy crystal]

because normally it would just do lightning in that area right

[turbid light]

Why filters?

Just do

[shy crystal]

Won't it just drop lightning in the area regardless if an entity is in there or no

[turbid light]

Without sensitive

[shy crystal]

ig yeah orbit

orbit will make an orbit around the entity??

[turbid light]

The orbit is just for throngling

Yep

[shy crystal]

but unless some other entity touches it, it won't activate

the orbit orbs

[turbid light]

Btw, much better and less likely to Throngle

[turbid light]

Tru

[shy crystal]

actually even with filters it might just activate but will not actively target the entity exactly

[turbid light]

This has no such weaknesses

[shy crystal]

it will jus drop lightning like it normally would

[shy crystal]

ho

interesting

right

[azure ice]

I've seen everything you've been talking about

[shy crystal]

o

😭 knew someone is there

[turbid light]

Crap

[azure ice]

https://tenor.com/view/monsterinc-monsters-inc-gif-5616105356996190790

[turbid light]

Btw, you got a delete messages chanel?

[azure ice]

Yes

[turbid light]

Damn

[shy crystal]

Uhhh

Hi guys

good morning

whats up

what were you talking about

[turbid light]

So, I could just start deleting old messages to 'hide' the delete ones

Damn

That's not how I thought it would work

[azure ice]

That's a separate one

[shy crystal]

wat

dam ok

security tight

cool, good

[azure ice]

Remember, I can make @ruby knoll do anything

[turbid light]

Hmm

[blazing heath]

Not home for the week

[turbid light]

Oh, k

[blazing heath]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1169830975740583956/1389031319706800311/1062516593587925073.gif

[shy crystal]

is that a real explosion or fart on fire

[blazing heath]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-plinko-gif-22702804

[shy crystal]

🔥🔥🔥

[turbid light]

Isn't this from elemental?
How come it has its own glyph?

Or is it an old glyph that got taken down?

Cuz I'm testing Ars Elemetal's Bubble Shield and it's just garbage

[shy crystal]

idk tbh

i think this is from elemental but yeah, it somehow has an emoji

[turbid light]

Still doesn't make it good

[shy crystal]

What about it

I also used it in 1.16 a bunch

[turbid light]

After casting 🛡️ and which does 9 dmg. The shield drained 900 or so mana and still let 6 dmg hit me

[shy crystal]

It stops 1 out of 30 arrows i think

maybe even that 1 was a miss lol

[shy crystal]

dam

[turbid light]

XD

[shy crystal]

thats a good think

wont have to do much damage to get the mana bar down

[turbid light]

Basically

[flint maple]

yeah, was basically applying the potion effect that is now of the bastion fruit

[wicked cove]

how do i make the eart pillard of raise earth go back in place after the damage and not keep sticking out ?

[shy crystal]

hmmmmmm

or

i think rewind

try

[wicked cove]

this doesnt work idk i need something more to target the bloc that were moved by the spell

and reset doesnt work too

[shy crystal]

hmmm

[shy crystal]

try with block shaping focus

/focus of blockshaper

[ruby knoll]

@shy crystal

Result for search: firework

**Effect:** Firework from Ars Nouveau

Creates a firework at the location or entity. Amplify will add Firework Stars, while Extend Time will add additional flight time. If a firework exists in the casters inventory, the created firework will mimic the held one. Spell Turrets with Touch will create fireworks as if they were dispensed.

Split: Summons multiple fireworks.
Amplify: Adds more Firework Stars.
Dampen: Reduces damage dealt.
Extend Time: Increases flight time.

Tier

2

Cost

50

Schools

Fire

[shy crystal]

oh

so u dont NEED a firework to use it

what does it mean by the end lines :
Spell Turrets with touch will create fireworks as if they were dispensed

[potent pier]

Dispensers can fire fireworks like normal I think

Like, as if you were to right click the ground with one

[shy crystal]

o

ohh okay so

i get it

Im gonna actually personally try making some spells with firework

i feel like its underrated

Potenshial

[turbid light]

No?
Like, the turrets shoot the fireworks in the direction they're facing

[blissful anvil]

a fun spell in 1.21.1
Dirt Boom ;
Dirt Pull ; ARC

:D

[tacit wyvern]

wait thats cool

you did a good job

[shy crystal]

dam

that explosion lol

[turbid light]

Lol

[azure gazelle]

Hi does anyone know any cool ATM8 / 1.19.2 spells that are flashy and deal some good damage?

[tacit wyvern]

hmm

[frosty pike]

https://discord.com/channels/743298050222587978/1141341426223960064

What could possibly be more flashy than throwing a rock at somebody?

[tacit wyvern]

Who will win? A wilden chimera or a stack of obsidian flying at supersonic speeds

[tacit wyvern]

Real

[cerulean mauve]

Does a non-laggy high damaging spell exist?

[tacit wyvern]

Well

We can just do a simple spell and stack as many buffs as we can on it

Something like poison spores or just #1141341426223960064 would work

[cerulean mauve]

poison spores sounds interesting, how do you use them effectively?

[queen charm]

you can make most spells more performant by tweaking the particle settings in spell style

[tacit wyvern]

There's that to

[tacit wyvern]

I actually have documented it's dmg and augments

[cerulean mauve]

I put the particle emission to the minimum on all my parts but im just naturally drawn to spells that summon a couple thousand projectiles

[queen charm]

instead of optimizing for raw damage you can make spells that are easier to hit consistently and lower danger to yourself

[tacit wyvern]

This is effectively done by puting or using an earth bangle

Or as I've recently learned

Gravity well affects projectiles and pulls them into the center

[queen charm]

there are more ways to do crowd control than explicitly snaring something

[tacit wyvern]

Well it's a start

[tacit wyvern]

Tho I like earth mainly because poison spores does magic dmg

[flint idol]

Was messing around last night and found a good combo for tier 2. Everyone talks about burst sensitive propagate homing/arc. But propagate plane is a tier 2 glyph

[frosty pike]

It is (tier 2)? I guess its fair because it doesn't trigger multiple times like linger

[flint idol]

But still allows you to get a few dozen meteors!

[tacit wyvern]

Especially if you use it with propagation

[pastel nebula]

What can I chain with Bubble?

Do I need to add a delay on bubble so it can register then pop? Or will it not pop from the same single cast spell?

[cerulean mauve]

how do you propagate with cold snap?

[tacit wyvern]

[rare flint]

Greetings fellow wizards! I am playing rad 2 with two other friends and ive been learning the wizard arts in this mod. I have been having trouble coming up with spells that do damage but also dont effect my teammates too much, anyone got any ideas?? i was thinking a chain spell that ignores my teammates but dont know how to go about it. Any help would be helpful!!

[flint idol]

I don't know if RAD2 has any filter glyphs from add-ons. What version of Minecraft is that in again?

[rare flint]

it says 1.16.5

[flint maple]

If it have filters it have chain

[rare flint]

i do have filter glyphs in rad 2

[oblique ginkgo]

tbh

1.16 ars mid

[blazing heath]

mid is an understatement

I'd rather play vanilla

[tacit wyvern]

I find this ironic as you are likely one of the oldest people on this server
I think

[tacit wyvern]

Fair enough
That's what I did

[blazing heath]

i mean most people here are kids

lyrellion is probably the oldest active member

if I'm not mixing anything up

[tacit wyvern]

Ic

Witch makes this thing even more epic if it's able to unite an age gap

[blazing heath]

I think it's about the person because if i showed my dad this he'd just go back to watching national geographic

[tacit wyvern]

Yea

[queen charm]

i prefer not to think about the ages of the people here

[flint idol]

We don't have ages. We aren't real

[proud kindle]

Speak for yourself. I’m an old fart and proud of it.😜

[flint idol]

"ageless"

[blazing heath]

players are ageless but buncles are eternal

[tacit wyvern]

This aged like a fine buncle

[frosty pike]

as opposed to all of us aging like milk

[wicked barn]

Least we not expired yet

[rocky tiger]

What’s “Gravity Well”?

[tacit wyvern]

basically what we call when you equip a earth focus and add to it it basically creates an area like linger that pulls things to its center

[rocky tiger]

Oh wow, I somehow didn’t know that, and I thought I had read every scrap of info about all the glyphs and their interactions. Guess I know what I’m crafting when I get home from work

[graceful star]

Hi, I was wondering how (if it's even possible) to craft a spell to use a mekanism Cardboard box on on a block and then break and pick it up and put it in my inventory all via a spell.

I figured something like Touch - Interact - Place Block - Break - Pickup Item might work, but it just places the Cardboard box next to the target block, then breaks the target block and puts the target block in my inventory.

Is there a combination which allows a spell to use Interact in a RMB way since the cardboard box covers whatever block it is right-clicked on? Or is Interact limited to LMB?

[graceful star]

So... I got it to work!

Here's what I found worked:
Projectile - Sensitive - Interact - Place Block - Delay - Delay - Break - Item Pickup
With the cardboard box in my offhand

[flint idol]

Probably need block shaper as well.

Proj sensitive is if you need to capture blocks with no hitbox. Otherwise you should be good to remove that sensitive

[graceful star]

Using it for picking up spawners without breaking the spawners themselves

I'm not well aquainted with spell crafting beyond pretty basic stuff, so this was my first time doing something more complex that had to account for spawners

[graceful star]

not seeing block shaper (using whatever version of Ars Stoneblock 3 uses [1.18.2]) so I don't think block shaper is in the version I'm using

Ok, so now it's just breaking the target block after a delay instead of recognizing the empty cardboard box in my offhand as a valid block to use to RMB interact with the target block. And I legit haven't changed anything. It spontaneously stopped working on ANY block

[flint idol]

Interact on its own is a right click. Place block would try to place a block on the side of the block that the projectile hits

Break block obviously breaks the block that it hit. So normally a place block break block would result in placing a block down and then breaking the block behind it. Since the two effects resolve differently

It's been a while since I've played in 1.18. I don't know if interact specifically needs an augment to use offhand, else if it is a simple right click with your main hand

Block shaper was added 1.19 I think? I don't recall. It changes how block targeting works on spells that create or modify blocks

[graceful star]

It's so bizarre because it worked a couple times, but I'm starting to wonder if it "looks like it's working" when I'm within click range of the target block, meaning I'm still close enough to use the cardboard box from my offhand

[flint idol]

Id start with seeing if projectile interact will work from a distance without the break. Can test on chests

[boreal acorn]

so, ive been experimenting for a while and im still confused. how exactly do the propogate glyphs work and whats their usage?

i figured this was the place to ask

[proud kindle]

Propogators serve as a sort of “restart” for the spell starting from a new source.

Take for instance.

The spell starts from you as the caster touching a surface to create a wall that targets blocks - that’s the part.

Then the starts a “new spell” originating from each of the blocks in the wall that fires homing projectiles that harm targets

Another example would be which would break the block underneath you vs :propagate underfoot: which would break the block underneath whatever you hit with your projectile.

[boreal acorn]

huh, interesting

tysm

[turbid light]

I love how we be ignoring that , and also are propagators

Also, any block affected by
And any summons affected by

[proud kindle]

In a manner of speaking, yes.

[tacit wyvern]

also and

[turbid light]

Tru

[lament wasp]

Hello, im quite new to creating ars spells, im trying to use a Flattern Glyph on ATM10, how do i create the spell?

[broken shell]

First u need a scribe’s table, if u don’t already have one

Then u can check the recipe there

[broken shell]

yo this spell is kinda crazy?

[wicked barn]

as self harm, yea

-# the amount of time I died cause of it.....

[broken shell]

yea its a bit dangerous lol

[narrow parcel]

Hey, question: I only have base ars (didn't know there were add-ons, now I can't add them for reasons) is harm going to stay the best option for single target damage, or are there other better options that do more with some creativity? I'm not seeing many options for damage at all, which may be on me, but I wanted to check

[boreal acorn]

if it's not immune to fall damage, just flinging someone a mile into the sky works wonders

[proud kindle]

A spell can still do good damage if you don’t have a bunch of mods adding tougher mobs, especially when you add in boosts from Ars armor threads.

I’m not sure what “reasons” would prevent you adding addons though, as there isn’t really anything that would break from adding any of the Ars addons post world gen.

[turbid light]

When playing "base", always go for ObiRailgun
() or () + () or () +
Requires an equipped
Just aim and shoot

[tacit wyvern]

frfr

[narrow parcel]

...somehow I thought I said "Server reasons" oops.

But no, no tougher mods from the mods on there

[queen charm]

i find rail gun sucks for more mobile enemies like phantoms or wither

[turbid light]

I find it to still be better than Ars' slow ass projectiles

[turbid light]

And more amp, means faster rock, means less delay, means better aim

[tacit wyvern]

The optimal number of is 2. 3 is also good for extra speed but it doesn't add dmg
Furthermore after about 4 or so the projectile gets a lil glitchy

[fringe harbor]

If you have Ray, that’s often long enough I find.

[tacit wyvern]

Ray is weird and wonky to aim

[turbid light]

The glitchyness doesn't really affect in the air, since there are no blocks to get stuck on

[tacit wyvern]

It can make it miss sometimes as the block snaps around ones hitbox

[rotund sail]

Can you tell me how this mod for the addon ars controle works in relation to pipez and baus?

[zealous vine]

is a remarkably good early set for the enchanters sword if you're patient, one hit and you can back off and let the poison work for a few seconds for you

[blazing heath]

doesn't poison heal undead

[zealous vine]

just doesn't work

[blazing heath]

interesting

[zealous vine]

phantom grasp heals them though

but debuffing is surprisingly useful

[spring pasture]

With just Vanilla Ars, what are good damage spells to slot on enchanter's sword/crossbow with?

All the crazy good looking spells here have Ars Elemental and Too Many Glyphs

[gritty cargo]

with a 7 star (or more if you have create) firework in ur hotbar

or as graphbuncle always says

"The Magician's Railgun, created by Gweaven (⁠Obsidian Railgun or RailSpell), uses the shaper's focus to launch blocks at your enemies, dealing massive ammounts of damage

My prefered version is *3 , dealing 25 dmg
But the damage scales with block hardness, so launching obsidian (replacing with ) deals 75 ish dmg "

https://discord.com/channels/743298050222587978/1141341426223960064

[turbid light]

XD

Even the same message

[zealous vine]

my on my enchanters sword is working out very well as a maximum two-shot weapon on anything not immune to poison - if the initial hit doesn't kill outright, the target gets slammed with Poison IV for several seconds and that hilariously wrecks health so the follow-up hit usually kills

6.66 hp per second according to minecraft wiki, and that's after being slammed with a Sharpness sword with Netherite base damage

(I admit, I put mine through Apotheosis and it now puts Bleeding and Sundering on targets so a lot of things just straight-up die or get slammed to 1hp from poison then die from a tick of bleed so it's a hit and watch them die weapon for me, but the spell is still extremely good)

[flint maple]

note: this user swapped and accidentally. Start with delay to avoid overlapping the sword damage with the spell damage

[turbid light]

note: this dev accidentally swapped and

[turbid light]

note: this user accidentally wrote instead of

[flint maple]

i see that not reading plague is spreading faster than expected

best solution: use hex as first glyph, then poison with , then if you have space slap a delay-harm

[zealous vine]

ah yes my bad, sword is , I derped and put in a delay rather then extend time at least in here

sword hits, applies a hefty chunk of poison debuff rather than immediate damage

yes I'll be putting on hex eventually but hex is tier 3 and I have tier 2 at the moment

but I am finding a deep appreciation for debuffing right now

[tacit wyvern]

speaking of which do you just have base ars?

[zealous vine]

no, I have a few addons

[tacit wyvern]

ic

[zealous vine]

elemental, elemancy, additions, not enough glyphs

[tacit wyvern]

i was about to say envenom might work better but looking at my damage notes I dont think the dps is higher

[zealous vine]

it would save glyphs though, versus envenom

[tacit wyvern]

envenom does apply poison first and then venom

[zealous vine]

huh, what does venom do that poison doesn't? is it just a damage hit rather than a dot?

[flint maple]

theorically higher damage, and doesn't stop at half-heart

[tacit wyvern]

higher damage per tick but I dont know if it scales with amps or if higher potency just adds damage to poison spores when procced

[flint maple]

2 + (0.25F * pAmplifier)

[tacit wyvern]

Ic

Is envenom affected by poison stacks as well?

[turbid light]

Envenom is affected by poison level when converting poison into envenom, if that's what you mean

[tacit wyvern]

Ok yea so in that case one envenom gives poison 5 and the second converts it

[zealous vine]

huh, just woke up from a nap, looked at envenom on the wiki and was going to ask about that then potentially experiment

[zealous vine]

...envenom doesn't have a cap on amplify what the hell

[tacit wyvern]

Correct

[zealous vine]

now I'm torn between geomancer and pyromancer for my first elemental set

[errant sedge]

Odd question but me and my buddy got a running joke about using a ‘fireball’ spell and I was just wanting to know

What would be the best fire spell for combat? I know there’s the fire gatling but last I checked it doesn’t work in 1.21.1

[fluid grove]

So, I'm trying to automate the production of stone using a turret, but the turret isn't actually creating any terrain. I'm using ( touch > sensitive > conjure terrain > amplify > aoe > aoe > pierce > pierce > smelt ) to make a 3x3x3 block, but it does nothing when cast, despite working fine from the book.

I tried on a timed turret, and a manipulation turret from elemental. I also tried projectile instead of touch/sensitive, and tried without pierce. What am I doing wrong?

[flint maple]

Claim protection maybe?

Try to replicate in a different spot instead of your base, to put it simply

[fluid grove]

Oh, my god, that's probably it, which sucks I can't do it in my base.

That was it! FTB teams was stopping it

Thank you

[fluid grove]

Is there a way around this while still keeping claim protection?

[flint maple]

Faq should have info about it

The test was just to quickly rule out other issues

[ruby knoll]

@fluid grove

<:break:1262385404745748632> Spells inside Claimed Chunks

Lots of spells in Ars Nouveau use fake players under the hood to achieve their effects, so you may need to trust the player Ars_Nouveau (or its UUID) inside your chunks.

For MineColonies, it may be easier to view your Permission Events in your Town Hall, and trust the Ars_Nouveau player after attempting to fire a turret.

UUID

7400926d-1007-4e53-880f-b43e67f2bf29

Noticed a problem?

Please raise an issue with @azure ice

[spring pasture]

Does damage dealt by launching blocks heal you via threads of life gain?

And how many life gain/magic res threads are a good enough amount?

[tacit wyvern]

1. yes
2. 1 thread of each as threads do not stack with themselves

[spring pasture]

Rephrase, how many thread levels of life gain and magic res are a good enough amount?

[tacit wyvern]

ah.
this is where it goes into the realm of opinions as there isnt really a optimal setup for every situation
this being said I always have life drain in a top spot as its just useful™ as for warding its usually a t2 for me as the +2 magic dmg reduction/lvl is good but doesnt scale well and is otherwise not worth the t3

[proud kindle]

I generally have life drain in a t2 slot as my top slots go to spell power, kindling, shocking, and chilling.

Haven’t worked out my favorite lineup for 1.21.1 yet now that I don’t really need kindling

[zealous vine]

yeah, life drain is defo a t2 minimum for me when I have it, though honestly you could get away with t1 if you put out enough dps, 20/40/60% be like that

Warding at t2 is nice for when that inevitable wither skelly pops out of nowhere and gives you a nice helping of Wither though

[spring pasture]

I made a firework with 7 firework stars, but when I cast the firework spell or launch the firework it doesn't explode and there's no damage

It just sputters out some purple vfx and makes a whooshing sound while doing no damage

[tacit wyvern]

what spell are you using exactly?

[spring pasture]

I was using etc.

I managed to get it to work tho

[tacit wyvern]

oh cool

[zealous vine]

found my new favorite t2 form glyph; the Too Many Glyphs/Ars Omega Missile form, great for groups

[flint maple]

I am kinda unsure if it's even 1:1 the original missile

Since there was a chunk of SoSo code that I was not too sure what it did

Smth regarding targeting anyway

[zealous vine]

I don't know how it compares to the Omega version, but yours is very fun to use even with no augments, though I want to try making it arc next

[rotund sail]

What is it specifically for? If possible, give an example or how to use it.

@here

[azure ice]

That isn't going to work here, and it's kinda rude to even try

[rotund sail]

sorry

[turbid light]

Yeah dude. You have an in-game book

READ

[rotund sail]

The book doesn't make sense, what's the logic in saying that you can simply "create harmful blocks"? There's no logic to that, unless there's an example.

[turbid light]

This seems pretty easy to understand

[potent pier]

An example spell would be something like

The first part of the spell creates a mageblock in touch range. Then, everything after targets the mageblock. In this case, Leap targets the magebloxk to throw it in the direction you’re looking, hurting the first entity it hits

[rotund sail]

hum, thanks @potent pier

[sullen sky]

Now that I think about it, ars has an interesting use of vanilla to then modify it into a spell

[tacit wyvern]

How so?

[rotund sail]

What interesting things could I do with the Rewind spell?

[tacit wyvern]

with a rewind can apply to created or launched blocks

[oblique ginkgo]

it

what

thats

literally how i made my own obsidian railgun

during my first time on 1.19 ars

and remember

i was like

12 at the time (maybe 13)

[oblique ginkgo]

glyph*

[quartz pond]

so i've been trying to use and craft spells from here but all the ones with heal skip heal more than they damage.

is there a fix or is this unusual

?

[potent pier]

What version are you playing on?
It doesnt work in 1.21
And you also need the tier 3 Thread of Kindling

[quartz pond]

thread of kindling is probably the reason, i'm on 1.20.1

[pearl belfry]

L bozo

[quartz pond]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

new to the mod

[pearl belfry]

I just like saying bozo

Drop a SS of the spell and I’ll see if I can help

[quartz pond]

fair enough

uh

[pearl belfry]

Aight, I’d suggest to drop either harm or flare and one of the splits. Add an amplify to the flare and put hex before heal. Make sure you have the tier 3 kindling thread and go to town.

[quartz pond]

yeah kindling was the issue

using it on a server to deal with someone who got op through another mod

[pearl belfry]

Understandable

[potent pier]

What it mekanism

[quartz pond]

nah irons t.o. addon

so magic mod vs magic mod dealio

[pearl belfry]

Never touched irons ngl. I’ve heard it’s strong though

[quartz pond]

especially with t.o.'s addon

which kinda ruins any modpacks balance

[pearl belfry]

Smh, gonna need trinkets or my addon to balance the scales

[quartz pond]

also whats the chain lookin glyph

i cannot find it in my book :/

addon?

[potent pier]

Its from Not Enough Glyphs

[quartz pond]

so yes addon got it

[quartz pond]

how would i go about sending someone into the void as a spell?

because throngler, the one i used before both did nothing

(only addon i got is ars elemental)

[pearl belfry]

Get a warp scroll and set it's destination to the void or wherever else you want. Then hold that warp scroll in your offhand. Then hit an entity with the "blink" glyph. Can be as simple as:

no addons needed

[woeful swift]

Hello, I'm new to the mode and I was wondering how to get more spells in this book. Thanks to those who will help me.

[tacit wyvern]

So basically you need a scribes table

After that you just right click it with the book

[primal acorn]

hi

Hi, I'm playing stone block 1.18.2, when I try to craft the drygmy shard it gives me the message in chat: Not Recipe Found, Pedestals must be within 3 blocks. but I did everything correctly, help me please!

[tacit wyvern]

hello san This is the spell crafting discussion page. youll get more help in #general-and-help

[midnight sundial]

i need a good spell for pve i got tier 3 🙏

[tacit wyvern]

sometimes the simplest solution is the best one try out #1141341426223960064

[reef harness]

Is it possible to recreate Mysti's Gravely Dig to go in any direction?

It's one of those treasure books found in loot chests. It's great for going down quickly without having to leave holes everywhere, so I'm always glad to find one.

Problem is, it only goes downward. I'd like to be able to create a version that goes in whichever direction the player is interacting with - sideways, upwards, or down. But I'm not very good at spellcrafting, and can't quite figure it out; don't know if it's even possible to make it go anywhere but down.
If anyone knows how to make it work, I'd appreciate it very much

[flint maple]

for that book, surely not. the intangible part is cast on aoe by linger which is affected by gravity

the main effect is , that's what makes the blocks pass-thru

you will need something like then add aoe/pierce/extend time as needed

or a with a bit of before the intangible part, will work more similar to the ver you have maybe

[reef harness]

I'll have to poke around with it a bit more

Was trying to put it on a wand to have it portable like the book, so it automatically gets the

[mild gate]

wheres the poison coming from? maybe im too cooked for this mod

[tacit wyvern]

augmented with applies poison

[mild gate]

oh thats crazy, thanks

[tacit wyvern]

Np!

[rotund spade]

Got a block throing spell with a focus, I got the slots left and I want a spell to resolve where the block lands but I have problems with that

I basically want to make a C4

[tacit wyvern]

Ah ok
So weirdly enough should work

[flint maple]

Delay explosion at the end?

[rotund spade]

if the block lands, explosion does not happen

other wise it works mid flight

after a delay

[rotund spade]

I tried it and the blocks shoots out normally but the explosion happens at the origin of the spell and notwhere the blocks land

[tacit wyvern]

Yea it's weird sometimes
It works for some players and not for others

[rotund spade]

damn

how does Propagate work

maybe I can put that in somehow

[tacit wyvern]

Depends on the propogate
Actually try prop overhead at the end if you have it

Prop then the explosion

[rotund spade]

nah only underfoot

[tacit wyvern]

Still might work try it

[rotund spade]

this just cancels out Leap and launces using explosion force to propel

did I even do it right

[tacit wyvern]

No burst sensitive

[rotund spade]

still happens after cast

like immediatly after cast

[tacit wyvern]

Thats very strange

[rotund spade]

playing on Lingganggo modpack if that has anything to do with it

[tacit wyvern]

It might
It shouldn't but it might

[turbid light]

Correction: What he experiences is completely normal and expected. What you're referring to, tho, isn't

.
@rotund spade
What you could try is

The idea is that orbit follows the block-entity and remains even after the block has "died"
So hopefully the orbit touches a block on the ground

[native osprey]

Ez

[obtuse ruin]

Can someone explain how the engine works, I know it is used to propagate everything else after it a near infinite times.

And can this be used to make a good travel spell in 1.16

[flint maple]

there would also be a wall in the spell

basically the elements of the spell that interacts are:
wall spell recast the rest of the spell on any entity in its range
cold snap spawns the ice entities + makes the rest of the spell affect the ice entities too
orbits are spawned in groups of three, and are entities too

[obtuse ruin]

Ah, so it can't be used in 1.16, I will need to find a new engine for that then

[flint maple]

yep, bare minimum is 1.18 i think

[obtuse ruin]

Ah

[flint maple]

an no, actually 1.20

needs the change to how cold snap works

[obtuse ruin]

But I see, the wall recasts, makes more ice, yata yata crashes the server

[flint maple]

all you need for a travel spell in 1.16 is the haste spell with leap and bounce

[obtuse ruin]

I figured the belt of levitation or a cast of slow fall before would do the trick, I will have to experiment with haste

[flint maple]

bounce is better than slowfall if you want to go fast

slowfall is ok to stay in air enough to regen leaping

[native osprey]

Yall wanna see my plan on how to get a warden to fight a chimera

[flint maple]

but having speed 6 and jumping around without fall damage is another feel

[obtuse ruin]

I will give that a try, are there any recursive spells in 1.16 or no?

[flint maple]

there aren't real recursions even in the throngle, just a ton of cascade activations that the game usually can't manage

in the old vers, and were the main things

add a ton of decoys to the mix for chaos and you have once again a ton of activations from a cast

[rotund spade]

I like this, kinda like a throwable proximity mine, ty

[obtuse ruin]

Ah, so that's why summon decoy is disabled, good thing summon steed isn't!

[tacit wyvern]

steed i dont think counts

[tall wind]

we love throngling it dont we

[quartz pond]

Oh yes we do

[turbid light]

is even better

[tacit wyvern]

Graphbuncle what did we say about game crashing?

[turbid light]

Aw 🙁

[obtuse ruin]

I will experiment! I want to see if I can edit the Throngler to work I 1.16

[obtuse ruin]

I wonder if you can cause infinite triggers of a spell on yourself

[turbid light]

Nope

Never infinite

[obtuse ruin]

*near infinite

[turbid light]

*near crash

[obtuse ruin]

Potato potato

I just want to see how far I can push the boundaries of movement

[turbid light]

For 1.16 ...

[obtuse ruin]

Because leap bounce isn't cutting it

[turbid light]

Do you have wall, linger and burst?

[obtuse ruin]

YEAH I KNOW

[turbid light]

Reminding myself

[obtuse ruin]

Linger, I can get, wall no, burst, maybe I am not sure

Explosion yes

Oh wind burst, no

[turbid light]

I mean

No I don't

[obtuse ruin]

Give it to me. Share your ideas

[turbid light]

Anyways, exists but as a form, right?

[obtuse ruin]

Yes, I think it's the purple not blue

Currently at work so I am just thinking, but I get off in an hour and can start testing for like 30 minutes before class

[turbid light]

So you could use as a propagation

But it would probably cost a lot of items

And doesn't seem that effective

Do you happen to have any addons?

[obtuse ruin]

Not to my knowledge

I am stuck on this horrid version until astral sorcery gets updated

[turbid light]

Understandable

[obtuse ruin]

That would give me 64 casts, assuming that extra items don't automatically get dragged into my offhand right? Thats pretty good, getting a stack of sourceberries takes like no effort so that could work well. And 64 casts can do a lot depending on what else I put in the spell

[turbid light]

Not really. Unless it's somehow different in 1.16 just takes like an 8ths of a stack from anywhere in your hotbar

[obtuse ruin]

Ah, I thought it took one item. Haven't had an opportunity, my computer was dead when I went to try experimenting

[obtuse ruin]

so that doesnt work, gives three stacks worth of stuff

[daring raptor]

Howdy! Looking for spell recommendations and tips for experimentation.

I have the max tier book, but No addons other than the occultism compatability stuff.

I could get an addon or 2 if people really recommend it XD

[turbid light]

Most important detail, if you wanna learn the crazy stuff, is game version

[daring raptor]

Uh, not in front of me atm but I think it's 1.21

And not using any specific modpacks

[native osprey]

Hi

[turbid light]

Most popular spells at least require Ars Elemental
I guess for base, the best known are Magician's Railgun and The Throngle

There are also some techy ~infinite power exploits, but that's more for "special" people

[daring raptor]

Ive looked into the throngle

But not the railgun.

I might look into ars elemental and stuff just to have more options, idk XD

[grave badge]

Has anyone created a spell which allows you to summon orbs with the orbit spell that then branch off from you and attack enemies once they're nearby? ATM10 most recent release

[pearl belfry]

Don't think this is possible

[grave badge]

yeah i figured as much

wouldnt hurt to ask tho

[pearl belfry]

Best I can think of is for you to check out the homing projectile

Orbit only triggers once it contacts an enemy though, so I can't think of a clean way for it to automatically detect an entity and trigger a propagate homing or something

[grave badge]

yeah i have full glyphs unlocked

i just wanted something that was near enough the same as the summon swords from iron spells and spellbooks

[pearl belfry]

#1235001538611511357 message
Smh, if only I was in ATM10

[grave badge]

i have a very specific idea in mind that i feel this doesnt encapsulate

[potent pier]

There’s some combination of glyphs that causes projectiles created by to fire one after another, instead of all at once

Don’t know if that fits your vibe

I think it’s something like [propagate]

[grave badge]

ill look into it thanks

[west elbow]

anyone got any cool spell combos to try out?

[oblique ginkgo]

look at the "for fun" tag

chronofreeze, throngle, wrath of god, harm cannon to an extent,

snowgrave

several of the caster tomes like something something flash freeze

auriellas bite storm

etc etc

oh and dont forget alex's magnificent mansion

[wicked barn]

https://discord.com/channels/743298050222587978/1429710649042141244 yeet spell :3

[oblique ginkgo]

yeah that too

also #1258240326032818207

[trail elm]

i am trying to build a new warp gate system that with creates stock system that only takes up one spell turret and storage

any ideas on upgrades i can do that you can think of

[oblique ginkgo]

uhh

sticky piston with hoper

wait does that even work

i dont think it does

nvm

it no work i dum

tile entity evil :rag:

[steel forge]

Any good summon spells for book tier 2 ?

I'm using summon wolfs but is weak as hell

[oblique ginkgo]

I mean there aren’t any good summon glyphs

But if you somehow have a summon focus

That basically gives them 9 more damage and a bunch of speed

Though when you do reach t3

#1258240326032818207

[flint maple]

I mean, they were not bad in the summon rework playtest

Only needed their armor and being able to scale them up

While the skeleton and vex only needed a fix on their AI parameters

[oblique ginkgo]

oh yea forgot about the rework

[gray walrus]

Yall what are the first spells you guys make? I'm starting for the first time and i've got my eyes on something movement orientated and something to help me get ores faster

[potent pier]

Mining spell
Harming spell
Crafting spell
Torch spell
Night vision spell

I also make solely because I love opening my first nether portal with magic

Oh and of course
With a ring of jumping as soon as i can get my hands on one

[turbid light]

Belt of levitation for me

[oblique ginkgo]

If you mean as in like smth that isn’t ultra super basic

I made :amp:

Eventually became :terrain:

Aka very low quality obi railgun

[queen kettle]

Belt of levitation as graphbuncle says.

is my favorite spell for moving around, it's tier 1 and I use it all the time still, easily my most-used spell. If you time a leap spell shortly before hitting the ground, you won't take fall damage. Still if you don't like that, you can add (tier 1) or (tier 2) to deal with fall damage while leaping around. Leap works with elytra instead of rockets, too (except can't negate elytra damage with leap)

with silk-touched ores as the first block in your hotbar will crack open 4 of those ores with Fortune 4, better than you can get in vanilla. When you get to tier 3 you can update it to a chaining spell. Alternatively you can silk-touch your ores while mining, come to the surface, biuld a tall 3x3 tower of all your ores and cast over and over, mining the stack from the top down, using fortune 4

I also like for building, it's tier 1 i you don't need silk touch, I use it a lot while trying to figure out my roof outlines (working on a weird roof right now)

[queen kettle]

Oh another useful one is and if you have tier 2, some at the end. That breaks a tree down really fast. Really helpful for getting lots of wood early on in the game. Then you can also to grow them fast, if you don't have bonemeal. You can combine those on spell turrets to make a fully automated wood farm, too. I've got one that can farm every single 1x1 overworld tree with optional modes for silk touch (leaves) or fortune (saplings, mostly for jungle trees).

Very early on when my mana regen was bad, I also used (optionally with if tier 2) quite a lot. But once my regen was good enough, leap spells took over

[lunar cradle]

Anyone got ideas for spells to move Lootr chests? Knockback glyph specifically does not work, I've tried it and the chests do not obey gravity. Maaaybe the gravity glyph works but I'd need to unlock it?
Craftoria-NA needs a loot hall but moving Lootr chests without AE2 spatial storage has been a wild goose chase

I've found that knockback is good for forcing budding amethyst & certus to turn into a dropped item. Basically the Spectrum resonance enchant but much more accessible

[wicked barn]

I don't think any spell in ars can move lootr chest. Does spatial io work though? I thought it not too

[lunar cradle]

AFAIK spatial does work but I'm not sure it's been tried yet

[gritty cargo]

pretty sure you can just use a create contraption

[turbid light]

If I remember correctly, moved chests loose all their entity data.
Then again, I don't know of lootr chests have any data

Anyway. If doesn't work, nothing works

[gritty cargo]

I mean you can move them fine with carry on and that keeps their loot

[karmic pulsar]

Any good combination to make my spell hit more easily? Currently have to rely on a thin line of the projectile form hitting the enemy, which often results in a miss especially if I fire from afar.
I'm only a tier 2, not sure if need things like burst to be able to hit in a wide box

[turbid light]

Homing from Ars Elemental

[karmic pulsar]

Ah, so have to do homing, cannot do things like an aoe kind of projectile? (Not aoe upon impact of a thin single projectile) like I want to conjure many ice blocks and direct these ice blocks at the enemy, with freeze + cold snap I have to first hit freeze with the single thin projectile which is frustrating

[gritty cargo]

Echoing trail?

Echoing trail + prop homing to be specific

[karmic pulsar]

Lemme try thx

[turbid light]

Burst upon impact would be missile

[oblique ginkgo]

Maybe #1141341426223960064

Since with enough amps it’s almost hitscan

[turbid light]

Railgun + would kinda work

[oblique ginkgo]

They are t2 tho

Just realized all of the suggested stuff is t3

[tacit wyvern]

yea

all the fun stuff is in t3

[oblique ginkgo]

railgun can help antiair tho

[outer forge]

Guys any t2 spell for DMG without braking Blocks arround?

To kill some bosses

[turbid light]

T2?
Nah

T1 would be obsidian railgun

T2 is just more expensive T1

[light urchin]

fr

[somber cobalt]

✨ ⚡ . The emoji-glyph conversion page is somewhere in this forum, and it’ll work unless they’re immune to effects.

[proud kindle]

I’m assuming that’s ?

[flint idol]

Can also just skip the delay. It'll just be the damage from the discharge in that case, since the spark would be basically ignored damage

Technically lower damage, but if you're wearing aeromancer you can probably single shot most standard mobs with that anyway

[tacit wyvern]

it would be a 3 dmg difference

[proud kindle]

Or just use a shocking thread and replace the with another

[tacit wyvern]

whats the purpose of doing it twice

[proud kindle]

Damage it twice?

Shocked doesn’t go away after fires

[oblique ginkgo]

#1287559002523172956

[tacit wyvern]

oh with a in between

[somber cobalt]

That is what was suggested my friend.

with Aether gear and the Shocking thread is free prior setup for the ⚡

[somber cobalt]

Yes. I haven’t Nitro.

[tacit wyvern]

I need that server for whenever I have nitro

[marble kindle]

how do i get this. i am playing 1.20.1 and cant find it