Ars Omega

[deft hornet]

then exchange back in 1.19

[deep sluice]

is that easier?

I was gonna edit the nbt file

but that seems tough actually

since it won't let me use ctrl f in any nbt exploring tools I have

[deft hornet]

oh, that might work too

[deep sluice]

and it's not text 😦

[deft hornet]

intellij should let you

[deep sluice]

does it?

[deft hornet]

i did use a text replace with the starby shrine

[deep sluice]

nope

I'm not having any luck

I can edit it

but I'd need to search all 207 blocks in the pallete manually

😦

[deft hornet]

oof, then maybe doing the switcheroo is easier

with chain and maxed out bigger pierce/aoe

[deep sluice]

time to get nbt explorer and see if it is any good

[naive ore]

do you not have a replace all function with the find? Oof

[deep sluice]

at that point a fill command would be easier lol

... it's one place to replace

the problem is finding it

because it's not a text file

so I can't search for the block that doesn't exist

I have to manually check each block numbe rin the pallete and see if it is it

OR find a different tool that lets me search

[deep sluice]

yaaay! nbtexplorer worked!

bruh I fixed the wrong ffile

🤦 😦

still has a bunch of stuff missing but is better than before

[dusk halo]

It looks nice being open roof tbh

[deft hornet]

Did it have glass in the top floor?

[deep sluice]

? why do you ask

well, some stained glass

but the stuff missing still isn't glass

[deft hornet]

It wouldn't be bad to have a bit in the new version, as windows, not on the roof

[deep sluice]

I'm bad at building

wasn't planning a new version of the tower anytime soon

[deft hornet]

Well, you need to change something anyway

[deep sluice]

why?

🙉

[deft hornet]

I'm not sure it will translate correctly if you only use a different sourcestone

The texture are kinda different

[deep sluice]

I guess?

but I don't have that much time to work on the mod

[deft hornet]

You don't need to change it much, but small and quick tweaks probably

[deep sluice]

and I'd much rather finish this 1.19 port quickly so I can go back to 1.18 and deal with petrification and achievments and re-merging the notebooks somehow

[deft hornet]

Then the tower shouldn't be a priority in the first place, but rather the demon realm first

Since the tower was only cosmetic

[deep sluice]

well, no, the loot in it is important

but yea the tower is not and I'm working on the demon realm now that the tower technically works

I also fixed the stats on the gear like the pendants!

demon realm sorta works, I'll call it good enough if I can fix the loot table with the staff and can make the necessary ores generate

[deft hornet]

Good

Anything else broken by Ars side? Or just stuff broken by minecraft ?

[deep sluice]

not sure yet

but so far most stuff seems to work

hmm actually infinity crystal of all things is giving me trouble

not filling up

[deft hornet]

It doesn't output source?

[deep sluice]

doesn't generate it

[deft hornet]

Weird, isn't that just in the tick method?

[deep sluice]

yea

public class InfinityCrystalTile extends SourceJarTile {
    public InfinityCrystalTile(BlockPos pos, BlockState state) {
        super(RegistryHandler.InfinityCrystalType.get(),pos,state);
    }
    @Override
    public void tick() {
        if (!this.level.isClientSide) {
            this.addSource(10);
        }
        super.tick();
    }
}

IDK if something changed in ars or if I did something dumb or what

[deft hornet]

Try following what happens in addSource call with the debugger?

Oh, do the projectiles still work correctly with latest Ars? Since the split update might have changed a bit how they are fired

And obv they don't get the spread effect if you don't code it, it's just a change in the arrowheading

[deep sluice]

I'll have to fix that
that's just in 1.19 though, right?

[deft hornet]

Yep

[deep sluice]

[deft hornet]

Should be easy since it get rid of all the weird split code

And simply adds an offset to the yRot

If you make the offset too big I guess you can shoot 360, lol

[deep sluice]

fixed ores and the important loot table

mod should be playable now

even if sucky cause so much is missing

[deep sluice]

new version of the 1.19.2 port:
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/ars-omega/files/4358288

@brazen oyster @naive ore @visual canyon @dusk halo @bronze badge

[dusk halo]

appreciated

[visual canyon]

very nice

I appreciate the ping

[bronze badge]

LESS GO

[visual canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-laugh-gif-22378372

[deft hornet]

Curseforge was fast tonight

[dusk halo]

ill test it out on private pack, will still wait for semi-full release before i add it to the pack im working on w/ friends

yeah curse has been good lately <10 mins for 99% of approvals with the bot, and <2h for fresh stuff

the main issues have been the site literally dying today

[deep sluice]

well I waited to puing peeps until it was approved

[deft hornet]

Last week it took some hours

[deep sluice]

that is a little while

[deft hornet]

Probably a temporary downtime

[naive ore]

Gonna be fun to play with

[visual canyon]

lets see how much we can improve [REDACTED] with this

[deep sluice]

I'm gonna add achievements next, anyone have any ideas?

[naive ore]

an achievement for casting a spell that crashes the game

[deep sluice]

no

bad cat

[naive ore]

no you misunderstand

[deep sluice]

how so

[naive ore]

its to disappoint completionists because I dont think its possible

[deep sluice]

it is

just buy a cheapo pc

[naive ore]

I mean on a good pc

[deep sluice]

the playerbase isn't wealthy enough to notice that the achivement was supposed to be impossible
probably

[naive ore]

it will still disappoint completionists that play on servers with multiple people (=

[deep sluice]

no I want achivements for like getting cool items and stuff

[naive ore]

achievement for getting best staff

achievement for defeating demon lord or whatever his name is

[deft hornet]

Umh, pretty sure you'll want one for demon realm

[deep sluice]

yea

one for entering demon realm

[deft hornet]

You can yoink how the vanilla "TheEnd? " is triggered

[deep sluice]

one for summoning and one for killing demon king

[deft hornet]

Then you might add one for the better magebloom

[deep sluice]

oh yea that

[deft hornet]

One advice I can give is, unlock all the base ars advancements

[deep sluice]

ah

[deft hornet]

Then look at the tree

[deep sluice]

well, um, you see

I'm sorta in 1.18.2 at the moment

[deft hornet]

Oh, lol

[naive ore]

XD

[deep sluice]

😅

here's my thoughts

I'm turning the other book items into things that just unlock the chapters in the main worn notebook

and I'll use sub-categories to keep it less messy

hide advanced magical equipment and status effects in the magical equipment category

and spell sigils in the sigils category

and locking behind achievements will make them show up in the book with a lock, like in hexcasting

so people will know to hunt for them

[deft hornet]

Then you have to try and think how the progression goes first

[deep sluice]

yea

[deft hornet]

Then look at the tree to see if you can link another item to it

[deep sluice]

well, tier 4 starts with demonic summoning

then demon realm

[deft hornet]

Maybe gorgon gems are another thing for adv

[deep sluice]

yea but IDK what to call it

[naive ore]

oh you could do an achievement for every tier 4 glyph you unlock

[deep sluice]

sounds like a LOT lol

and what would be the point

[naive ore]

well the tier 4 glyphs are really powerful and also more expensive mana-wise, kinda like master level spells in skyrim, so unlocking one is a kind of a big deal

[deep sluice]

true

but still

lot of them

[naive ore]

your right about the quantity I suppose, but some achievement related to tier 4 glyphs sounds like a good idea

[deep sluice]

why not just for the book, like in ars?

[naive ore]

thats an option

besides that my like second thought was an achievement for unlocking your first tier 4 glyph

[deep sluice]

or maybe achivements based on the school of the tier 4 glyph you unlock

slightly better, no?

[deft hornet]

Book + successfully bound a wither + get all?

[naive ore]

yeah

[deep sluice]

that seems like a lot of stuff, do you mean as separate achivements?

[deft hornet]

(Not as a single adv, I mean three)

[naive ore]

this plus the school idea sound great, for glyph related advancements I mean

[deep sluice]

ok

[deft hornet]

I'd say either one for school or just one when you get all the tier4

[naive ore]

why not both?

the school ones can be something like "Master of ___" and the get all could be something like "Master of Magic" or something

[deep sluice]

this idea might be hard but would be funny:
I am become death: have your bound wither kill a player or boss mob

[naive ore]

funny indeed

[deft hornet]

Feels redundant since you can't link the final one to the all the school ones

An adv can have many children, but only one parent

[deep sluice]

schools would be first glyph in each school was my idea though

[deft hornet]

Oh, so unrelated to tier4?

[deep sluice]

I meant first tier 4 of each school

but all the glyphs is a lot more than one of each school

though I guess it is reduntant to an extent

[naive ore]

if you could have multiple parents than the get all tier 4 would make much more sense

[deft hornet]

Your choice anyway

[deft hornet]

Yeah, it would be a lot more like a questbook

Sadly you don't seem to be able to do it

[deep sluice]

lol

oh well

[deft hornet]

I wanted to have that effect for "get all elemental foci"

[deep sluice]

hmm, IDK what to name the achievement for a tier 4 earth glyph

[naive ore]

While the names themself need work its a decent start for naming them

[deep sluice]

ooh maybe "Center of the Earth"

master of is lame

[naive ore]

agreed

and overused

[deep sluice]

Elemental mastery: obtain 1 of each essence type (base ars plus omega)

to have something like that

[naive ore]

thats a way better use of the master thing

[deep sluice]

Thoughts? The air one feels too cheezy
(nature has no tier 4 glyphs yet lol)

Dark Magic: obtain a tier 4 demonic glyph
Call of the depths: obtain a tier 4 water glyph
Air yearns for freedom: obtain a tier 4 air glyph
Fire consumes all: obtain a tier 4 fire glyph
Center of the earth: obtain a tier 4 earth glyph
Skewed exchange: obtain a tier 4 alchemy glyph
Playing god: obtain a tier 4 life glyph

[naive ore]

Your right about the air one, the dark magic one also seems a little boring, may not be the right word to be honest, compared to the rest

[deep sluice]

true

second ideas:

Unforgivable Darkness: obtain a tier 4 demonic glyph
The four great winds: obtain a tier 4 air glyph

[naive ore]

Those sound much better especially the demonic advancement

[deep sluice]

this should be MORE than enough lol

(I blocked out only the biggest spoilers so it still kinda has some, oh well)

oh yea one for the bloom

hmm

[naive ore]

oh wait for the I am become death, perhaps changing am to have would be better

"I have become death"

Is the one under Vidi called Vici?

[deep sluice]

one of em yea

obv

[naive ore]

I was wondering if those were like gods or something and looked it up cause I didnt know and I found the phrase lol

[deep sluice]

ah

lol

there are a lot, I'll need a new root

what should the trigger be? also the worn notebook like ars?

[naive ore]

Sounds like a good idea to me

all the tier 4 stuff could be under a root of getting the tier 4 spellbook

[deep sluice]

more than 1 root seems very excessive

[naive ore]

true

I probably organize a bit too much sometimes to be honest and it starts to become folders are the mess instead of just files

[deep sluice]

well, it's... something?

good news is it triggers right!

[naive ore]

I’d ask about the name and description but thanks to my messing around with modding I actually know why it’s like that XD, advantages of random experimenting

[deep sluice]

yea just means the lang entry isn't made

[naive ore]

Lang entry seems like the most boring part of modding to me, for the most part it seems like a bunch of copy paste this, edit that, copy paste it again, repeat for every item and advancement and block, etc

[deep sluice]

wait until you learn about blockstates

or registering tile entities

[naive ore]

I choose to ignore the complicated stuff lol

[deep sluice]

I do the same thing, I just have a higher threshold for complicated

case in point, I never added astral projection and I never fixed petrification

[naive ore]

fair enough

I mean I have watched a guide on how to do blockstates for like a light block I just didnt experiment with it cause im lazy

[deep sluice]

can you, um, send the logs?

[bronze badge]

latest.log?

[deep sluice]

ye

[bronze badge]

server or mine's?

[deep sluice]

yours

tooltips are clientside

I think

[bronze badge]

let me get it in a second then

oop hold on-

there

[deep sluice]

for some reason not all the advancement gating is working 😦

k got it figured out

perfection

I'll work more on it next weekend

merge in the other two books

[bronze badge]

imagine omega adds new bosses

[deep sluice]

it adds one, the demon king

[bronze badge]

Not just demon king,a few others

Giant magic golem is one idea

[dusk halo]

An achievement for killing someone with a bound wither

[naive ore]

So good that it was already though up lol

I hope I turned off mention there, it’s useless for most of the times I reply lol

[dusk halo]

I was thinking call it blood for the pact

Another cool achievement would be to destroy more than 100 blocks at one given time with any destructive spell

[naive ore]

Unsure if it would be possible to track that but it does sound interesting

[thorn folio]

It looks like modern art. Take that as you will.

[thorn folio]

I feel like achievements should be obtainable on single player as well but that might be just me.

[dusk halo]

simple fix

[kill a player, or a boss]

[thorn folio]

True

In that case that would be a cool achievement.

[thorn folio]

Oh nice, you got a version you are happy with for curseforge.

[thorn folio]

An achievement for ublocking every spell glyph (idk if you can make it auto register other addons, if not then just every spell glyph from regular ars and ars omega).

[deft hornet]

It's probably faster to just check all glyphs than restrict the ars omega + base ars ones, lol

Because in one case you need to check all the glyphs on the list, in the other you just compare the size of two lists

[thorn folio]

I was hoping for that, but I wasn't sure how the code works and if he can just check all or has to do it individually.

[heady glen]

How do I use the enchant glyph to get the enchanted golden apple?
The book only supports 10 slots, two are spent on the form and effect and the missing 8 if I put them amplify 2 do not reach the 9 I need.

[deft hornet]

You need advanced amplify, maybe

[ornate osprey]

Or and mostly the staffs from omega

[heady glen]

Advanced amplify is only amplification 2, which is useless because as I said it does not fit in a spell book.
You need 9 advanced amplify to be able to enchant the apple, and no matter how you look at it it doesn't fit in the book at all.

[ornate osprey]

Use.the.staffs.

They automatically add advanced amplifies and give you the form without a glyph slot

[heady glen]

That's probably the solution, although with what it costs to source I wonder if it's worth it.

[naive ore]

actually any enchanter's item should work because they automatically have a form so you can get rid of the form in the spell and have Enchant -> Advanced Amplify x9 and manage to get just enough

[heady glen]

I thought about that solution, I was just looking to see if there was a cheaper solution.

[heady glen]

The problem is that it costs a lot, it is simply more effective to use the healing glyph.

[naive ore]

perhaps but if your trying to get an enchant golden apple thats how

[deep sluice]

Well, yea, otherwise there's not even a sense of balance lol

A link seeking glyph that if someone has scrying, copies the duration and selected block, and if augmented with sensitive shows where they attack stuff. And if elemental is installed shows life link locations too.

[ivory hearth]

this happen to anyone else?

[deft hornet]

That's only on Omega glyphs

So I guess SoSo forgot to adjust the patchouli pages

If it happens to you, it probably does to anyone playing the 1.19.2 ver

But it's also the reason why it is just an alpha

[deep sluice]

yea I forgot lol.

[naive ore]

To be honest when I saw that I assumed you were leaving it off for now since it is still in alpha

[deep sluice]

... no I just never fixed it

[deft hornet]

@deep sluice does the biome changer still work

[deep sluice]

No

Had too many compile errors, one of the many missing things

[deft hornet]

as expected, tbh

i think bailey wants to make something similar for the skyblock

[deep sluice]

Ah

I don't remember how bad it was

The compile errors I mean

[deft hornet]

We found another example anyway

[deep sluice]

But I know my entire idea sucks anyway

Methodology I mean it's not very accurate

[deep sluice]

Yay

[golden jay]

Mmm I wish there was a way to slot spells into curious items... even if it was just an aoe or a fortune or an amplify.. it would make for a fun way to do a ring of spell amplification set-up...

[naive ore]

I don’t think it’s exactly what you want but there is a casting crystal add on

[vestal glade]

I think Zarathustra is wanting curios that add the effect to every cast spell, similar to how the Caster tools add accelerate or amplify.
However, that's kinda OP, even by Omega's standards, and I can only imagine the coding nightmare for having the spellcasting mechanism of Ars have to check every curio slot for the effects for every cast spell.

[deft hornet]

Nah, that's easy af

We have hooks for that

[deep sluice]

lol that is ez

how do you think summoning focus works? and blockshapers? and alchemy focus?

[vestal glade]

Looking at Zarathustra's comment, and Lavacat's response, i might've been wrong about the intent. They might've wanted reactive curios.

[deep sluice]

I have no idea what they wanted

" a ring of spell amplification"? does sound a lot like augments tbh

[deft hornet]

"looks like a focus"

[vestal glade]

Me either. I'm just trying to spin it into ideas that'd be great in 1.18.2. lol

Casting Crystals is a 1.19.2 addon, iirc.

[vestal glade]

Almost sounds like thread effects from Ars 1.19.2 being put on Curios, tbh.

[deep sluice]

what do casting crystals do?

[vestal glade]

Curio slot items with a casting hotkey. Basically, Kinda like the curio slots got a hotkey for items with proactive enchant.

Except the effect only works for casting crystals themselves

I'm still not on 1.19.2, so I'm comparing the description of the mod with mechanics I know of in 1.18.2. lol

[deft hornet]

It's a bit like quickcasting from book

but the spell doesn't depend from you holding the book, so it can be used in any circumstance

[deep sluice]

That could be fun

[eager summit]

I would like to talk about changing the entity model in the Ars Nouveau addon called Ars Omega. So, there's a mobs called "Demon" and they're divided into categories. I would like to change their model, but I can't get to the model itself, I don't understand where it is. Exploring java resources on github didn't give me anything...

This is not a suggestion to add my model, rather "unofficial changes", and more of a "game" with models for general understanding, soon I want to become a modmaker as well

[deep sluice]

I think I straight up use the biped model

so there's not really a model to find there lol

they should have renderers you can find on the github though

yea, Omega is a bad reference to learn modding from

I'm not that good at it either

sorry

[eager summit]

I think I'm beginning to understand. Is it some kind of model-less entity that only uses textures?

[deep sluice]

...no

the model exists

just not in my coded

it's in mojang's code

it's a java model

the biped one

I think zombie model inherits from it or something

I don't remember lol

[eager summit]

sheass

[eager summit]

nope, i love this addon

[deep sluice]

ah hold on

It's called HumanoidModel in 1.18+

[eager summit]

But the models suck, sorry)

[deep sluice]

they aren't right for the context

but saying the model sucks entirely would be dissing mojang

since again, not my model lol

I did make this that you can see:
https://github.com/dkmk100/ArsOmega/blob/1.18.2-main/src/main/java/com/dkmk100/arsomega/client/renderer/GenericBipedRenderer.java

[eager summit]

It's just that I'm working on my modpack and we play in such a local collective, so I'd like to change them somehow, so it wouldn't be so bad

[deft hornet]

You can try to make one and submit it to SoSo, maybe it can be replaced 👀

[deep sluice]

unfortunately I think you'd either need a mod to override the renderer, or to be happy only changing the texture

[deep sluice]

and yes if you make a better model I'll fully be willing (and want to) add it to the mod

[deft hornet]

to make mob models, you will need blockbench + geckolib plugin

[eager summit]

Yep, i have some knowledge

[deft hornet]

or at least, i guess it's better to use the geckolib format since the custom java models are a pita to add

[eager summit]

that would be great, then we'll implement the models as a team of two people

I would also work on the book of the 4th range, since it is not any different from book 3 (I would add some demonic traits due to the presence of them in the craft)

And...

12 frame animation at 7 fps... In the game it looks like I have something glitchy.

[deep sluice]

lol I was gonna try and do a book model "someday"
AKA never bc I'm always busy somehow

[deep sluice]

ah, on 1.19? it looks all weird and black? ye it's not being set as transparent I have to fix that

if you're on 1;18 then IDK that seems weird

[eager summit]

If I try to make quality models and make changes to the appearance of some blocks and textures, could we have a discussion about their quality and if so, would you add them to the mod? 0_0?

[eager summit]

in 1.18.2 it LOOKS weird) sorry

[deep sluice]

ah

[deep sluice]

probably, can't be worse than anything I've made

the least bad things in the mod are the demon raptor and demon ray

and I didn't even make them, a friend did

[eager summit]

like this...

sorry for file

[deep sluice]

huh

[eager summit]

So, if I do make visual fixes, would you be able to put them in the mod on the, um. 1.18.2 I think?

[deep sluice]

yea, that's the main version for now
though in a couple months I'll abandon in for good and be only on 1.19

1.16 is pretty much abandoned

[eager summit]

Of course, with their quality implementation

I would like to see a finished quality product 1.18.2, many authors are now abandoning this version and go to 1.19, and not finishing the work. I do not know why this happens, in modding I am not strong

For example, the author Tetra implemented an excellent, in my opinion, system with abandoned dungeons, where you had to charge an ancient "anvil" and forge advanced equipment. Items in 1.18 remained, even the scanner of these structures, but the structures themselves, much to my regret, disappeared 😦

[deep sluice]

because working on 2 versions at once sucks

so authors only work on 1 version at once

once they move it's pretty much permanent

and nobody wants to make their mod for an old version forever, that's lame and boring

[eager summit]

New versions come out all the time, and their stability at the dawn of their release is not exactly good. I think older versions have their place too.

[deep sluice]

and yet, their stability usually increases because people take the time to move to them

[eager summit]

Yep, that's right

Thanks for the dialogue, I really want to work on the quality of the mod in terms of visuals, I hope you have the strength and time to add models and textures, which I will provide. It will be insanely nice to say as a fan of all things "demonic" )

[oak marten]

Omega doesn't appear to be working on 1.19.2

[deft hornet]

Rollback ars by two versions

To 3.8.1

[oak marten]

will that break anything?

[deft hornet]

No, those two are bugfix and internal changes (which broke Omega)

[oak marten]

awesome, thanks!

[deep sluice]

From my point of view, the updates are evil!

Nah I'll try and push a fix tonight looks easy

[deep sluice]

ok, working on the new fix

so far fixes the crash and tooltip issues with newer ars versions, and the infinity crystal rendering

(not the animation though)

[deep sluice]

If 3.8.4 breaks Omega again I'm gonna cry lol

I only just fixed the issues from the last two:
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/ars-omega/files/4363794

[naive ore]

The cycle of modding lol

[golden jay]

Mmm I was thinking more something like an effective configurable extra slot for your spells

[hollow narwhal]

So I'm on 1.18.2. The enchanter's wool armour says glyphs can be added to it. Does anyone know how that directly works?

Like what glyphs, how they activate, so-on

I couldn't find any descriptions in the book

[deep sluice]

where does it say that?

that's not something you can do

[hollow narwhal]

Ah I think I've misunderstood something then

I'm dyslexic as shit and misread "It is infused with various protective spells" as "it can be infused with various protective spells" lmao

[deep sluice]

Ah

[eager summit]

@deep sluice, sup

Can u add me to ur friends ? i show something interesting )

[thorny shoal]

An achievement for getting a villager from bedrock to build limit with a single spell cast @deep sluice

[deep sluice]

what... how... why...

[thorny shoal]

Not actually sure it's possible but it sounds fun

[deep sluice]

but, like, why would I make that an achievement

[thorny shoal]

Ok well, a pig then

Call it when pigs fly

[deep sluice]

I wanted achievements to commemorate progression, or to show incredible displays of power
not just raw chaos

[deep sluice]

ok that could be funny though

[thorny shoal]

That's a pretty incredible display of power tbh

[deep sluice]

looks at other achievments in mod doesn't fit the tone, but would be very funny

If I can figure out the code I'll probably do it

[thorny shoal]

Laughing a mob hundreds of blocks straight up in a single cast

[deep sluice]

but IDK how to do custom achievements yet

[thorny shoal]

Launching

Ahh fair

[deep sluice]

oh wait I'll have to learn how anyway bc of the one wither achievement

ye I'll add your idea

seems amusing

anyway the mod could use more old fashioned lighthearted slapstick chaos

[thorny shoal]

[bronze badge]

so we shouldnt use 3.8.4?

[deep sluice]

nah, it should be fine

that was comedy

3.8.4 didn't make any breaking changes

[bronze badge]

oh alr

[deep sluice]

I gotta fix propagates to use clone

[deep sluice]

neato! I got a custom advancement trigger to work!

[deep sluice]

there are 12 achievements in the mod now

and I consolidated everything back into the worn notebook in the WIP new 1.18.2 version

some secret stuff is unlocked by achievements, so a few sections of the book get gradually filled in

it's gonna be cool

[deep sluice]

I'm moving the sections on gorgon gems and the infinity crystal to resources

and I'm moving the section on crafting the arcane compendium to getting started

that should help a bit

also, now that it's all back in one book

you can see all the locked sections and know you need to do something

instead of just not knowing about features

which is gonna be awesome

Ars Omega hit 100k downloads! 🎉

[oak marten]

Well deserved!

Ars has always been a huge part of my modpacks, so I was super excited that you made it to 1.19!

[bronze badge]

you mean omega?

also, so-so, you only get that flesh from the demon realm, ok, but how the hell do we get there without making the ritual?

[naive ore]

If I recall correctly is there not a ritual to summon some demons or something like that

I would have to check documentation to be sure though

[deep sluice]

Ritual of demonic summoning yea

[naive ore]

XD IM looking at the wiki and this happened

the gem got stretched lol

[deep sluice]

Lol

[bronze badge]

so so, did u flip the spell book model?

[deep sluice]

No

But it renders flipped in 1.19 and IDK why

[bronze badge]

try asking bailey's help

[deep sluice]

I might later

[bronze badge]

alr

[deep sluice]

I wanna do some more 1.18 fixes before I touch 1.19 again

[bronze badge]

i c

[bronze badge]

i feel bad for those ppl that r perfectionists

having to live with this flipped model must be painful

is the dimension's id demon_realm?

[deep sluice]

I don't recall, probably
you can autocomplete it when doing /execute in

[deep sluice]

yea, I'll deal with it when I can

[deep sluice]

sneak peek at the dumb idea I had and might add

[ornate osprey]

Spacing is an issue 😁

[heady glen]

How do you remove the effects of the cursed pendant?

[thorn folio]

Extremely well deserved. Goos job!

[deep sluice]

You can just remove the pendant I think

[heady glen]

Yes, it was the first thing I thought and the first thing I said to my friend.
But the retard thought I was referring to his normal inventory and not the curios inventory, even though I told him to look at the curios.

[deep sluice]

How did he manage to put it on then lol

[deep sluice]

I swear I saw someone suggest this but I can't find the message anymore lol

normal block vs what happens if you demonically curse it

[deep sluice]

WIP new effect for demonic light! top is normal magelight and bottom is demonic light

needs tweaks but great start

much better I like this effect

[deft hornet]

I'm curious on how the non-edge colors are

Can you show few of the preset colors?

[deep sluice]

left is base ars, right is demonic light

most colors look better in base ars

but some darker colors look cool as demonic light

white and yellow are pretty ugly though

but I like the plain red, blue, and black on my new demonic light

also, default purple looks blue you need to like double the red to get a good purle

but if you do (furthest right) it isn't altogether bad either

doesn't look as much like a light, but, it's fun

it's like mageblock but as a light I guess

yep, exactly that. this is the default purple mageblock

I'll also half the mana cost to 5x magelight instead of the 10x it was

oh also the other difference is it starts at light level 10, not 14

so 5 amplifies are needed for the max light level

might change that though, it's a bit annoying honestly

[deft hornet]

Oh, it's not a bad array of color

It just feels weird due to no transparency

[naive ore]

I can't wait to use that wonderful red color in my cult worship area basement

[deep sluice]

lol that does sound fun

[deft hornet]

It surely have a more demonic vibe than happy magical

[naive ore]

That black will also have some uses since you cant get that with the normal magelight

areas meant to have a dark theme that still need visible light sources for example

[dusk halo]

this one is so cool

it'd be really cool if we could slow down the animation too

[deep sluice]

it's not an animation though

I'm sure it would be possible to make what you're thinking of

but it's too complicated to deal with right now

I'll add it to the long, long list of ideas

[naive ore]

I hope you have an important section on that list if its so long, something like:
Top 10 to complete:

• 1
• etc

[deep sluice]

I'm cleaning up the 1.18.2 version of the mod to use deffered registers

hopefully it doesn't take too long

but it looks like it'll be awhile

[deft hornet]

Make the lifetime longer, spawn less particles per tick

[deep sluice]

are you kidding me

sigh

the source jar doesn't have a constructor without the registry name

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

the heck do I do here?

to make my infinity crystal?

[deft hornet]

In 1.19 you mean?

can't you use SourceBlock

[deep sluice]

no, this is 1.18.2

and SourceBlock here has the same problem

bc Ars doesn't use deferred registers

[deft hornet]

oof

[deep sluice]

I don't suppose there's a way to undo .setRegistryName lol

can I add a new constructor with mixins somehow? and grab it with reflection?

or should I just use old fashioned registration for this in particular?

[deft hornet]

last one is simpler

it can be properly fixed later in 1.19 so you can fully switch

[deep sluice]

yea in 1.19 I did fully switch

I'm just backporting the full switch

figured it would be fast

since I did the majority of the work in 1.19

but no bc now I gotta figure this out

[deep sluice]

well, it compiles again

doesn't launch though

[deep sluice]

nice I got it to work

[bronze badge]

oh yeah soso

add to your to-do list: Add coloring to your spellbook

[deep sluice]

yea

[bronze badge]

I also remember you said something about fixing a spell, i just dont rememeber which

[deep sluice]

I was gonna change the model/texture first

but haven't gotten a chance

[deep sluice]

hmm, no idea which one either lol

[bronze badge]

Cheer your day with this rainbow wither skeleton horse

[deep sluice]

lol what

[deft hornet]

It's the jelly

[bronze badge]

yes

[deep sluice]

the one I was gonna borrow inspiration from for petrification

[deft hornet]

The thing i sent you time ago about the petrification ritual

[deep sluice]

if I ever get that far

[deep sluice]

idea: random chance glyphs

percent chance to stop the spell

[naive ore]

Sounds interesting and the mechanics can’t be too hard to implement, at least I hope so anyway.

[deep sluice]

nah that one would take like an hour tops

lol

[dusk halo]

You could do a mystery augment too

Where it can make the spell completely random

One cast could be a fireball, next could be summon wolves, next could be heal, then it could be explosion

That'd be funny

[deep sluice]

it might be funny

but IDK how I'd reign in the issue of mana cost and spell tier to keep it balanced

[dusk halo]

a spell colour randomiser would also be fun

[deep sluice]

a color randomizer would be fun and also not that bad

the problem is

it wouldn't take effect until after it got hit, so the form would still have the old color

so no rainbow projectiles

[dusk halo]

yeah i meant lets use

magelight example

each cast is different colour determined before the projectile launcgh

rainbow is unfortunate but random colours still good

[deep sluice]

yea but I mean
you could change the magelight color, but not the projectile color

still will be fun though

[deft hornet]

you can change the spell (and by consequence the projectile) color

hook with the event

[deep sluice]

yea, but... on cast? would I make it an augment on all forms then?

[deft hornet]

like, the one fired before the spell is casted

[deep sluice]

or what

so like, a randomize form color augment for forms, and a different switch to random color effect?

sounds best I guess

more color stuff would be fun but I ain't dealing with custom projectile particles yet

unfortunately, demonic and rainbow projectiles are not in the cards in the near future

[deep sluice]

ok so 2.7.3 plans so far:
-random glyphs for each tier. Add sensitive ot make it exclusive to that tier, otherwise it does all previous plus current. IDK about cost, could also incur an additional cost on trying to cast anything more expensive than itself.
-randomize color augment, can go on any form and takes effect as soon as spell casts
-switch to random color effect, changes color for everything after that
-random chance glyph(s): random chance to cancel spell.
-look into more sigils, maybe secondary ones after the elements. So far thinking power, construction, and knowledge but IDK for sure what I'll do.
-nerf advanced mana gear, and add a greater variant.
-more achievements
-fix bugs related to item names
-fix a bug related to bound wither boss bar

[deep sluice]

adding items to an in-world demonic light to make it change gameplay behaviors sounds fun
Also an augment to make it visually float up and down sounds fun though IDK how hard that would be...

some kind of mesmerising glow and ways to attrack different mobs or disarm them. Sort of like fairy lights in creepy swamps

[deep sluice]

hmm, some kind of spell container in a minecart that activates on the activator rail could be fun

IDK where it would get source though

[deep sluice]

yo random color augment looks so cool!

there's both the above augment for forms, and an effect version so you can do stuff like this

this looks fun

hello

[bronze badge]

Ok so So-So just gave me this insane idea with this, a new spell form called Ring, it'd be something like orbit and have orbit's properties, but it'd be a ring that changes colors

[deep sluice]

once again me here partacing in my own product

[deep sluice]

how's that gameplay wise different from orbit?

[bronze badge]

It changes colors B)

[deep sluice]

I'm not taking the time to make a whole orbit knockof for changing colors

if I wanted to do that

I'd do it for projectile too and make it another augment

[deep sluice]

already thought of that too, see here

[bronze badge]

I honestly can't say what I wish for it to do, so I'll let you brainstorm some ideas that this Ring form could do

one of them was expand when about to disappear

[deep sluice]

I was gonna add a homing missile when Elemental is installed

and a homing orbit

[bronze badge]

yeah homing orbit sounds actually cool

[deep sluice]

those are my form ideas right now

[bronze badge]

but wait

[deep sluice]

homing orbit would be devastating
anything gets too close and bam it starts chasing it

[bronze badge]

whats the dif between homing projectile and missile?

[deep sluice]

one sensitive to be able to hit players, two to only hit players

[deep sluice]

missile explodes in the air in an AOE, while Ars Elemental's homing is probably what you were thinking of

homing missile would chase like homing but activate and hit them from further away, and with splash

[bronze badge]

hmmm... that's a questionable idea

lets say we use homing missile, you can expand the aoe with and your Greater Aoe, but your enemy can use blink, obv that's easy to use for escaping and running

But if they use leap and amps, they can still outrun the explosion

so I'm not sure making it explode further away would be a good idea

[deep sluice]

wha texplosion?

[bronze badge]

I'd say explode on target

[deep sluice]

it immediately affects all thigns in large range

from itself

including target

bam

[bronze badge]

oh

instant

[deep sluice]

you die bro

use the missile form

[bronze badge]

yeah that makes sense

[deep sluice]

that but with homing

seriously try out missile it's a work of art I'm very proud of it

[bronze badge]

I'll try it rn brb

[deep sluice]

I just stuck this beauty on a casting wand

[deep sluice]

impromptu fireworks

I need to stop liking all my new features this much this is why the mod never has new stuff

[coarse inlet]

any showcases on omega? would like to learn more 🙂

[deep sluice]

I doubt it

oh my! I found one video with the mod lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a2wBhOXHX4

[deep sluice]

gotta fix the description of flesh to clue in peeps about the ritual of demonic summoning

[deft hornet]

Is the demonic light just the classic render type with no blend function btw?

[deep sluice]

... well, default blend function, so I guess?

[deep sluice]

why do you ask?

[deft hornet]

More like because i'm curious if i got it on first guess, lol

I'm also thinking to if i can use a darker particle for something anima related

since most i can do with default one is gray

[deep sluice]

I imagine the classic render type works
this is a custom one which I'm unsure whether it's reduntant

once I got something to work I was too scared to touch it

[deft hornet]

well, classic

not going to attempt if for a while due to other stuff on the line anyway

[deep sluice]

ok

what sort of stuff are you working on now?

ooh also, I'm planning to add some elemental compat, but I'm unsure what to do as far as elemental foci are concerned

do I add foci for all my schools? what do I do with the alchemy focus?

[deft hornet]

Oh, i still need to look into the shaper focus. There's some kind of wrapping of the focus in the spellcontext now

I never adjusted it, i'm still with my custom methods

[deep sluice]

huh

[deep sluice]

there is?

[deft hornet]

It would probably be easier to work with it

SpellResolver#hasFocus

[deep sluice]

...

😦

[deft hornet]

oh, it's basically just checking the curio slot, lol

[deep sluice]

one thing I legit don't get

why the heck is casting item not saved?

in the spell context

the mirror makes NO sense right now

[deft hornet]

i think it's tied to the spell resolver now

[deep sluice]

I don't see it

[deft hornet]

or maybe to the caster

[deep sluice]

and last time I tested, which was pretty recently, it just uses the mirror for stats when held

which is silly

and annoying

[deft hornet]

umh, can't find what i saw

[deep sluice]

https://github.com/baileyholl/Ars-Nouveau/blob/1.19.x/src/main/java/com/hollingsworth/arsnouveau/common/items/EnchantersMirror.java

still just has stats

😦

[deft hornet]

do you mean the duration up or the discount?

i remember the discount being moved

[deep sluice]

... the discount was probably moved

duration wasn't though

right now you can hold a mirror in your offhand and be kinda OP lol

[deft hornet]

only way is changing how ISpellModifierItem work

[deep sluice]

I think that would make sense
there should be some kind of spell modifier that only affects the spells it casts, and the current/default that affects all spells.
that would make a lot of sense to me

[naive ore]

Thanks for the information

[deep sluice]

lol you just casually lurking in like an actual cat

[naive ore]

oh im always watching

half the images in mine and Chaos's discord are of your messages

[deft hornet]

the only things that use the interface are curios and the mirror

so if the check only happen on the curio slots you shouldn't have side effects

[deep sluice]

... that might be better

[deft hornet]

unsure on how you keep the actual mirror effect tho

[deep sluice]

... make it only apply to spells it casts by modifying casting item logic?

to check the stats of the item there?

then just remove the hands from where stats are checked in general

that way foci and stuff can work right

since rn held curious also have an effect which is funky

[deft hornet]

@bronze cape

for (ItemStack i : entity.getAllSlots()) {
                spellStats.modifierItems.add(i);
            }

the hell

is it taking the entire inventory?

[deep sluice]

what the

no

I don't think it is

I don't think getAllSlots gets the inventory, isn't that separate from entity slots I think?

I thought that's armor, main hand and off hand
and curios changes it to include those too

same things most stats use

I think

could be wrong though

[deft hornet]

It's either full inv or that

more likely that

curios are taken separately

[deep sluice]

wait they are

which file is this in

[deft hornet]

https://github.com/baileyholl/Ars-Nouveau/blob/3ac0dd16a69caed4c9944429f676f851669c4f05/src/main/java/com/hollingsworth/arsnouveau/api/spell/SpellStats.java#L164

[deep sluice]

oh I found it

lol nvm you already sent the link

comment strongly implies the same thing I said about hands and armor

which are the things other entities like zombies have

so... pretty sure that's what that method is

too bad I'm not at my PC right now I could just check

[deep sluice]

more stuff to do:
-clarify how to get demonic flesh for crafting banishment ritual
-clarify where gorgon caves are, and give the gems a tooltip
-remove gorgon gem requirement from Arcane Compendium that's way too expensive
-fix ritual of tribute

[deep sluice]

bruh AE2 also causes the bug where you can't remove it from your world

glad I'm not the only one hit by it

(I still don't know if it's fixed in 1.19 but I'm boring and on 1.18)

[jade pine]

is all the new buildings in the demon realm

[deep sluice]

No, there are two in the overworld

[deep sluice]

... add back in armors on 1.18.2, managed to mess them up which is very bad

[ornate osprey]

Oh no. What happened to make you catastrophically bad?

[deep sluice]

I think I kinda sorta deleted items on a 1.18.2 build I put on curseforge

I archived it as a preventative measure

seems to be that I messed up and missed a couple things on converting to deferred registers

I suspect

yep, I straight up deleted the item registration for both armor sets!

easy to fix, but, could be sucky since someone updating might lose an armor set

[coarse inlet]

what application is the swap target used in?

like if there is another player does it swap us places or does it swap our effects? what exactly is it swapping. it say swaps the roles of caster and target but to what etent

extent

[deft hornet]

the target of the spell become the caster of the remaining spell

i don't remember what kind of weird combo they found with it tho

[deep sluice]

Mostly weird niche things lol
You can kill yourself with damage from them? Lol

[deep sluice]

there should be a glyph to "remix" color which would be randomized within bounds of current color instead of white. And an augment to do that for the selected spell color when casting as an alternative to the current random color one.

[oblique viper]

what do the demonic light and cursed bind glyphs do

[deep sluice]

demonic light is basically just light

[oblique viper]

1.16 doesnt have descriptions for them

[deep sluice]

oh

yea on 1.16 demonic ligth doesn't do anything special

cursed bind lets you summon a wither you control, but does nothing to literally any other glyph

[oblique viper]

okay see now im confused

cause cursed bind exist

but i also have a glyph called summon wither

[deep sluice]

exactly!

cursed bind is an augment

[oblique viper]

oooooooo

[deep sluice]

summon wither is an effect

[oblique viper]

aight nvm

[deep sluice]

stick the cursed bind on the summon wither

lol

[oblique viper]

the book jsut says use curse to control it so i thought it meant the glyph literally named curse

[deep sluice]

summon wither even says in the description

[deep sluice]

does it?

[oblique viper]

oh naa u right nvm im clownish

[deep sluice]

that would be a bug

oh ok

ye I figured it said the right thing

[deep sluice]

recipe ideas for the new glyphs

[naive ore]

Those bottom 3 interest me based on the glyph design lol

Mainly because I can finally have easy access to different colored wool, and that third one I haven’t read back far enough to see what it does

[deep sluice]

... bottom 3?

oh

it's randomize color

it's a tier 1 glyph with only visual applications

it is fun though

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1019672498213761084/1069834745673949194/Animation.gif

[naive ore]

Lol imagine you go to someone’s house and just go and change the color of their sheep

[deep sluice]

lol, no, it doesn't change the color of outside things

but of the glyph itself

[naive ore]

Ah

[deep sluice]

unless you have a "dye" glyph it's useless

(I would make a dye glyph if I had some clever idea to make the math for it)

(so I might at some point in the future. It would fit with some other ideas I have)

top ones are random chance

random 25% chance to resolve, random 50% chance to resolve, and random 75% chance to resolve

otherwise they cancel the spell

[naive ore]

I bet I can find a funny use for that

Actually I already got an idea

[deep sluice]

example

[naive ore]

Russian Ars Roulette

[deep sluice]

sure you can do that, no use though

[deep sluice]

this, but with exchange instead of conjure mageblock? maybe for decoration?

[naive ore]

Would be incredibly useful for texturing blocks with the randomization

[naive ore]

Sure it does, just uh not in combat

[deep sluice]

... what use case is there?

[naive ore]

Minigames

[deep sluice]

random would be no good for challenge runs or anything

you should just use the cursed totem lol

[deep sluice]

ah, I can see that being useful

[naive ore]

Oh a spell turret could use it for something like random attacks that you try to dodge, training reflexes basically

[deep sluice]

like this?

but that one sucks

also, how would you have to dodge?

ahhh you mean more like this

that one is pretty cool actually

[naive ore]

I’m gonna be honest I barely thought out the dodge one, but given a moment of though, timer turret with form -> chance glyph (exact chance to be decided) -> redstone pulse

[deep sluice]

yea but there is no exact chance lol

[naive ore]

Those will point at spell turrets that have a blink glyph and a warp scroll in a nearby inventory to a room for when you fail

[deep sluice]

you can... sorta bs it

[naive ore]

Meh if it sorta works it sorta works

[deep sluice]

like 2 25% is pretty low

[naive ore]

I will probably have like a 25% and a 75% or something idk

To make it rather common but still unpredictable

[deep sluice]

hard mode

easy mode (needs casting wand)

[naive ore]

I could use other mods to set up configurations for specific turrets to go off and instead of aiming at the spell turrets the timer could aim at those specific combinations, I could add a delay with repeaters to allow for it to be checked so no more than once happens at a time

As for the roulette one, you actually have some pretty good spells there but I was more thinking of using spells turrets for a group version or self in the spell for a solo version, probably wouldn’t be too expensive seeing as I can just blink myself to a room to signify death instead of actually dying. For the group version it would be like people around a table in specific spots and spell turrets aimed at them and when a lever is activated one at a time those spell turrets go of until someone gets blinked and it gets turned off after

Pressure plates below the blink spot could automatically turn it off

[naive ore]

My dumb-butt just registered this, I meant wether I use 25, 50, or 75%. Or a mix of those

[dusk halo]

This would be a funny idea

For the random colour to actually randomise dyable entities

[deft hornet]

that's something planned for the

[naive ore]

Good to know, thanks

[plucky shadow]

Trying to use the ritual of tribute, but no luck getting it to work. I've tossed stacks and stacks of gold ingot on that thing and nothing comes out

And is the ritual supposed to be a one time thing? It activates and goes out, spitting nothing out

[deep sluice]

did it receive source?

it needs source, and then it should spit out tributes based on the amount of gold, and another tablet so you can run it again

[plucky shadow]

There is a source jar right next to it

But I'll try again while looking at the jar

[deep sluice]

you did start the ritual, right?

and what happened when it ended?

[plucky shadow]

Fire went out, made a poofy noise

Nothing dropped

[deep sluice]

do you have any item collecting things nearby? vaccum hopper or similar

no matter what it's supposed to drop the tablet back lol

[plucky shadow]

Not that I know of

Hmm, I'll keep testing and looking around in chests, lol

[deep sluice]

what Omega version is this, and what other mods do you have?

[plucky shadow]

We're on 1.16.5, haven't looked into much of the overall pack

Pretty small though

[deep sluice]

ah

can you test on a new creative world to see if you run into issues?

it would also help to know the exact version of omega, which 1.16.5 version?

[plucky shadow]

I'll look into it, but I'll do the creative thing first

If it works there, it must be something else

Thanks for the advice

[dusk halo]

How's the 1.19.2 alpha going stinky

Still painful?

[deep sluice]

that's a new one lol

[dusk halo]

Would've thought you'd have been called that more with how much coding y'all do 🤨

[deep sluice]

no idea, between working on 1.18 and doing schoolwork, no time to find out

[dusk halo]

Fair fair

[deep sluice]

lol
not been called that here in any case

[dusk halo]

Well congrats on being called it for the first time

[deep sluice]

[thorn folio]

I know it is very small and you are busy, but do you think you will fix anytime soon that in 1.19.2 absorption still doesn't have a texture or waiting till you do another big release to fix it?

[deep sluice]

it's kinda annoying to switch workspaces so I ws gonna wait till next release

anyway IDK if I ever... made a texture for it

[thorn folio]

Oh lol. So it isn't as mucbmh a bug but rather something that never existed.

[thorn folio]

Yeah that makes sense, not a big issue, the spell still works, just missing the texure, can easily wait till next release.

[deep sluice]

how'd that go?

[plucky shadow]

I think I figured it out? I was trying to be cute with how my ritual stand thing was placed in my magic room and it looked like the items that should have come out were getting clipped into... nothingness

[deep sluice]

did they end up above the room or something lol

[plucky shadow]

I only found out because my carbuncle ran by and vacuumed a tablet out of nowhere and put it in a chest

[deep sluice]

ah

so, did you find the tributes?

[plucky shadow]

I tore down the walls and didn't see anything, so it must have went up above my roof, lol

Well, by the time, I guess most disappeared

[deep sluice]

oh well, glad you figured it out

[plucky shadow]

But In an open spot, it was working right

Yea, thanks for your help!

[oak marten]

I've noticed that a bunch of the Omega glyphs are acting up in 1.19.2, is there a fix in the works for that or is it a problem on my end?

By which I mean, they display their item ID and description ID instead of the item name or description

[naive ore]

Ah yes alpha issues, that’s language file stuff lol. Glyph should still be functional though, you just can’t really get documentation from the book

[deep sluice]

lol that is correct

[dense arrow]

Is there a way to make the raise earth pilars go back, if not you should add that because that would be nice

Instead of leaving a bunch of pilars everywhere

[deep sluice]

I could look into it, but can I ask why that's necessary?

[deep sluice]

there's no spell to undo an explode glyph, for example, lol

why should raise earth be any different?

[dense arrow]

Idk I was just wondering if its a thing BC I want to use it without destroying stuff

Like how dampen stops explosion from damaging blocks

[deep sluice]

hmm, I see the idea, but also the whole point of raise earth is to change the terrain

otherwise you can just use missile launch knockback lol
even add some conjure magelights

[dense arrow]

I didn't think abt it that way

Lol

Makes sensr

Sense

[deft hornet]

maybe gravity to make them fall back?

[deep sluice]

nah they spawn stone under them lol

[naive ore]

Infinite stone?

Quite useful for Ars Caelum I must say

[deep sluice]

it's tier 4 by then it's useless

also Omega isn't even in that pack I think

[naive ore]

I can always add it for my own playthroughs

[deep sluice]

I guess lol

[naive ore]

Stone is stone

I actually cant think of a use for said infinite stone though...

[deep sluice]

the amount of time I've created random super broken bugs in the mod is just... insane

how do I keep breaking EVERYTHING? this is insane

[naive ore]

Very simple answer, you don't have an AI automatically fixing all of the bugs, or even an AI pointing out all of the bugs. I know in IntelliJ they point out problems regarding the code being written correctly, but some things causing bugs go under the radar because they don't fall under that list. For example IntelliJ doesn't tell you about a texture file missing last I checked.

I mean I could check right now but im lazy

[deep sluice]

no no I mean big bugs

I don't care about the textures and stuff

I mean big goof ups

using client only classes in server code, using stuff that's only in the JDK but not the java that minecraft bundles, straight up deleting items, and other such things that make the mod literally full on unplayable

[naive ore]

oh... I see

well no wonder my example had no weight here, I have not (and likely never will) done something like that with a mod

[deep sluice]

yea, it takes a special type of incompetence to mess up as badly as I keep doing

[naive ore]

your not incompetent, you just dont know everything there is to know, nobody knows that much.

[deep sluice]

yea true

I just wish I knew more about MC modding

so my mod didn't keep getting ruined every couple months until I fix it a week or two later

[naive ore]

Besides its not about not having errors its about fixing them before the product is released, or for the case of alphas fixing game crashing bugs which is what the current situation seems to be

[oak marten]

Do you want someone to beta test your builds? I've already got a server set up for modpack testing, so adding development builds of omega would be easy.

[deep sluice]

Probably not a bad idea, what version is that though?

[oak marten]

I'm currently running on 1.19.2, but I can run a second one in one of my VMs at a different version

I think the 1.18 version of my modpack is still sitting in my archive

[deep sluice]

That's probably a really good idea lol

Yea I'll consider that

[oak marten]

Cool cool, just DM me if you decide you want me for it. I push updates to the server every Saturday afternoon, so I'm usually already running the test server on Saturday mornings

[deep sluice]

note to self: make the demon king smart enough to avoid being killed by throwing into the void (if below a certain y level, place blocks to tower up and make a small platform. If below the area where he can build, use self lanch first and then do that)

[dense arrow]

Awww dang I just found out I can't dye my book anymore BC the arcane spell book can't be dyed 💀

[deep sluice]

yea, I have to look into fixing that

[dense arrow]

1.16 btw

[deep sluice]

ah, I probably won't fix it there, it's a lot of work to go back and mess with things there

[dense arrow]

Aww dang

[naive ore]

there is a solution

called texture pack

[deep sluice]

... I doubt that

pretty sure the actual recipe is missing

I think you can probably fix it with a datapack based on how ars does it but IDK for sure

[naive ore]

no I mean a texture pack changing the texture that shows, like for every arcane book in the world

not just one

[deep sluice]

... that defeats the point of dying the item

[naive ore]

perhaps

but if it works it works

[naive ore]

alternatively, if you use optifine than you can use that whole thing where you can change the texture of an item based on its name, for example you rename it to "Yellow Arcane Spellbook" and it turns yellow

Thats much more complicated though

[deep sluice]

or fix it with a datapack...

[naive ore]

true true

welp good luck to whoever does that

[plucky shadow]

Fireball cannot be dampened, right?

[naive ore]

It probably can but if the goal is to stop block destruction than you should probably use a different glyph like explosion

Fireball isn’t exactly good at not destroying things from what I have seen

[dusk halo]

I wish we had a glyph that replaced dampen for preventing block destruction, call it precision or something, where it only does what it's filtered to, e.g. precision > filter: player, it'll only damage player/detonate if connects with a player, and won't affect surrounding entities/things not filtered

[naive ore]

That sounds like filter player -> harm

Filter player being from TMG I think

It’s either that or filter entity which is close enough

Although for the sake of damage you could use divine smite or whatever that fourth tier lightning glyph is called

[dusk halo]

Yeah but I mean one that restricts damage to other entities/blocks

The filter from TMG only makes it trigger upon hitting X, rather than limiting it to only effecting X

And with omega, that added precision/customisability would be far more impactful

[ornate osprey]

Let me put this as nicely as I can:
That's a bitch to code

[dusk halo]

True but I believe in yall

[ornate osprey]

And not quite worth the effort in my opinion when there are so many different ways to cause harm that you can always decide to use one that's less damaging to the environment.

Luckily it's not up to me but to SoSo, anyways 😁

[dusk halo]

A small prayer to God, a sacrifice of several children, and a crate of cocaine and energy drinks, and you'll have it done

[deft hornet]

it might be easier to adjust the filters with the recent api changes

but just for damage effects

the problem with the design of the filters is that bailey don't want to make the interface be used anywhere in base ars

it's just there as common marker between addons

[deep sluice]

lol, that sounds very time consuming to add and I don't have much dev time

so, not gonna happen anytime soon lol

I have many, many other features I'd rather get to add

[plucky shadow]

So... don't Fireball unless I'm absolutely okay with straight ruining the local terrain just about anywhere. Noted.

[deep sluice]

I mean, with the exception of demonic light and blood clot, tier 4 glyphs sort of ruin the terrain by design lol

or at least wreak environmental damage

(killing all the pigs with a tornado or squid with a whirlpool is still kinda collatteral damage)

[dense arrow]

blood clot is a thing?

no bc idek that some glyphs exist bc they're not in the book

if you ever update 1.16 at all, thats what i would fix

and that some tier 4 spells/tier 4 spells are mixed up with what they actually are

like raise earth's thing says tier 3 but its tier 4 in the book

confusing

[deep sluice]

I think tier 4s show up as tier 3 due to some bug I never figured out

1.16 is almost impossible to update at this point honestly so I probably won't

[deep sluice]

I really should add the non-demonic path for tier 4 stuff lol

[oak marten]

Angelic path or atheist path? Lol

[deep sluice]

nah, more like ancient star worship to protect your friends path, or brutally murder everything in sight path

neither one is particularly angelic but I'm sure you see that the demonic is the... bad one

[oak marten]

I do like astral sorcery

[deep sluice]

that's where some of the inspiration for the celestial path is gonna come from yea

[naive ore]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-hell-gif-13171534

Everything shall burn!

[deep sluice]

-dark demonic lights in all the structures

dumb concept lol, might not use it though
bleeding greater archwood
weeping greater archwood
petrifying greater archwood
guilded greater archwood

IDK what to make the purple one though

(they'd each have a different recipe involving that color archwood, except if elemental isn't installed then guilded would work with any archwood sapling instead)

[deep sluice]

make omega forms work on turrets lol

[vital fractal]

joke idea : ridiculously expensive tier 5 spell book with 20 glyph slots

[deep sluice]

... that was planned once but UI is hard

Not to worry I have a new idea to get larger spells

[naive ore]

Tome of Blood has a method that is quite interesting to say the least

Perhaps inspiration could be drawn from there if it hasn’t been already

[vital fractal]

wait what how

[deep sluice]

Well it's not in the game

But I'm gonna add spell cloths

And a loom to join them

[deep sluice]

I had an idea: advanced imbursement chamber

*imbuement

[ornate osprey]

You just want me to commission a third sticker 😝

[deep sluice]

Lol I didn't think of that problem...

This one's sorta complicated too, whoopsie

It would use arcane pedestals kinda like the imbuement chamber, though in a larger radius like the enchanting apparatus

However, there would be a new golden pedestal, and the imbuement chamber could use up items on golden pedestals like an enchanting apparatus does

It would be able to craft both normal imbuement and apparatus recipes, though normal apparatus recipes would require golden pedestals specifically

It would also have custom recipes that required the advanced imbuement chamber. If at least one golden pedestal was required, it would need source manually piped in.

Aside from imbuement items, consumed items, and source, it would also be able to use liquids, starlight, and blood.