For elemental it's pretty complex as it's still interface based
#General & Development Help
radiant depot
but that's also the only thing that keeps the dual focus thing alive
while vanilla foci are resolver based
so it's simpler to test on them first and then adjust elemental code later
at least for the thread route
a custom item would have an easier implementation for sure
mossy hollow
I thought foci were checked via the caster, so a spellbook with a custom caster should work
radiant depot
only the vanilla ones are
mossy hollow
Ah right
radiant depot
i can swap, but custom caster would kill dual focus mechanic atm
ah no, that wasn't the problem
the problem is that i work with school checks
by "retrieving" the school
while ars checks are like "does it have itemstack x?"
and i have at least two items to check for
radiant depot
trying to be short, every spell-wise instance of
SpellSchool focus = ISchoolFocus.hasFocus(player);
switch (focus.getId()) {
....
}
would need to become
boolean hasWater = resolver.hasFocus(MajorFocus) || resolver.hasFocus(MinorFocus)
boolean hasFire = ...
if (hasWater)...
if (hasFire)....
i need to check which checks could be kept in the old ways
loud widget
is there an easy way to load a chunk temporarily just so that i can interact with an entity that is in that chunk?
im thinking about the scenario "i left my entity sitting somewhere 10 thousand blocks away from where i am. Now i want to interact with it in some way (get the entity instance)"
mossy hollow
You can force load a chunk, interact with the entity and then unload the chunk, at least that's how I'd do it, you can check the source of the forceload command in IntelliJ to figure out how
radiant depot
trying to be short, every spell-wise instance of
```java
SpellScho...
so, i swapped for glyph events but anything that doesn't have a resolver to hook to is doomed to stay as it is
which means stuff like fire damage swapping or similar side buffs
loud widget
You can force load a chunk, interact with the entity and then unload the chunk, ...
you are a genius, it worked, ty 🙂
mossy hollow
Genius is overselling it, but glad it worked
neat mango
are ars screens all client sided ? (without server side menus)
radiant depot
The terminal maybe?
Otherwise they are not container so they shouldn't need a ss menu
mossy hollow
@radiant depot when you get a moment can you add Ars Additions to #addon-index pls 😄
loud widget
how do i store a reference to a given ItemStack in forge 1.19? Like, i want an entity to be bound to an ItemStack, so when the entity does something, the item will be notified. I have already done the opposite (the item talk to to the entity) using the entity UUID as a reference to the entity. Is there something like that for the ItemStack? Does it have some kind of unique identifier that i can store in nbt and then use for retrieving that given ItemStack later on?
radiant depot
A reference to a specific itemstack that can end up anywhere: not really afaik.
Saving a copy of the itemstack inside an entity yeah, pretty normal
you could use the inventory slots of the entity for fast prototype, for example
loud widget
hmmm... i need something that would allow for persistence
if i save a copy of the itemstack inside the entity, upon closing the game that refence would be lost, no?
and then i would have to re-bind the item whenever i enter the game again
radiant depot
So you still mean case 1
I don't think it's possible at all since even if an itemstack have an uuid you would have no means to retrieve it since that item could be anywhere
mossy hollow
I'd just use an event system, like how sourcelinks work, propagate an event out from the entity and have item stacks register a listener for the bound entity uuid when they load
radiant depot
Yeah, have a middleman that syncs them based on a shared id
mossy hollow
And then all you need is to save the entity uuid in the item nbt
loud widget
hmmm, indeed that could solve the problem. I was thinking about doing what alex suggested and store a copy of the item in the entity and then the persistence would be done by automatically re-binding the item to the entity using the item's tick event but i think creating a custom event would be a nice opportunity for me to learn how to create custom events in forge as i have never done that
ty for the suggestions, guys 🙂
radiant depot
You'd only store the item directly in the entity if you for example want to "equip" it
you really need a soft reference here
The item can be dropped, stored in a chest, destroyed
Some processes even copy the itemstack and destroy the original
mossy hollow
Am I okay to make an addon thread for Ars.Guide? To get feedback and post updates
zealous zenith
Ya
loud widget
you really need a soft reference here
ah, i didn't know that. What could i use as a soft reference then?
radiant depot
The mechanism that Jarva said
Entity and Item share an id, entity broadcast updates and item only reads those from its entity
Or
Entity pushes updated state to a separate data structure, item fetch updated state from it once in a while
loud widget
but the problem is that i would have to store that Id in the NBT for persistence, and i think nbt is stored inside an ItemStack not an Item, right?
as each item has its own nbt
loud widget
ok, i think my brain is braining now. So i would have to create a custom event, the entity would then broadcast that event and my itemstack would listen to that event and read it only if it matches the id of the entity attached to that item
but inside that event listener, how would i get a reference to the itemstack so that i can determine if it should read the event payload or not?
should the entity pass the itemstack in the event?
that would require that first approach of having a copy of the itemstack in the entity, no?
like this, where would i get that "ItemStack wand" from?
zealous zenith
you really cant obtain references to itemstacks like that, they have to be searched for on an entity or some location you expect it to be
radiant depot
Entity pushes updated state to a separate data structure, item fetch updated sta...
That's why I suggested this, I have no idea how you would be able either
I mean, I have one but it will still fail in some cases
Aka save owner uuid too and scan its inventory for the wand
But fails if the wand is not on the owner player
loud widget
ah, thats a sad limitation then 😦
maybe i could write to the world where the item is?
do entity blocks like chests have uuid that i can use to retrieve them later on?
radiant depot
Unsure honestly, my Occam razor would have been use position in that case
Since usually blockentities are retrieved from level by xyz
Anyway, the only lead I can think of is using item's InventoryTick
loud widget
only works in the players inventory
radiant depot
Does it stop in chests completely?
loud widget
yesir
according to my trusty system.out.print it stops calling it once you put the item inside a chest
radiant depot
What is the end goal anyway? What needs to change on the itemstack?
Probably won't help knowing, but ynk
loud widget
The idea:
a wand represents a titan. The wand controls the titan and also serves as a way of monitoring the titan
the part of the wand controlling the titan is already solved by the item using the UUID of the entity to talk to it
now the part of the wand monitoring the titan (like showing the health of the titan or any current effect that the titan has active) would be done by the titan talking to the item (wand)
for example, when the titan dies, the wand should be destroyed or something like that
or when the titan is below a certain threshold, the wand would play a certain animation to show that the titan is in danger
each wand has its own titan, so if you have 4 wands, you should be able to control and monitor 4 different titans, each with its respective wand
radiant depot
Emh, so those are all things that need the wand on the player inventory
loud widget
but for example, if the titan died, the wand should be destroyed regardless of being in the player's inventory
otherwise you could just use a chest as a way to not lose your wand upon titan death
radiant depot
What if it gets updated asap it get into someone inventory?
You're free to seek a way to update it while in chests
But since mc itself has some limitations, consider allowing a disclaimer on syncing only while in inventory
loud widget
What if it gets updated asap it get into someone inventory?
could be a workaround, but i think it would be kind of weird, you open your chest and you see the wand there. Then you move it into your inventory and it disappears (gets updated and thus destroyed)
i will try to use the idea of storing where the wand is using the level nbt and then try to work something out from there
and try to band aid the edge cases
radiant depot
A chat message to explain why it disappeared will be needed either way
Just saying cause players are users
loud widget
thats true, hmmmm
well, we got many ideas here already, ill go implement some of them and test and see what happens
maybe if i mix together everything that we talked about here i can get somewhere nice
the code prob won't look nice but i have these disclaimers for that reason already haha
mossy hollow
Where is the item model predicate for the source jar defined?
"predicate": {
"ars_nouveau:source": 0.01
},
Ah, I was looking to check how it's controlled
Found it, it's in ClientHandler in the setup code
mossy hollow
My IDE isn't picking up the AT and I can't find a gradle task to verify the AT, what am I doing wrong
mossy hollow
was it Forge or Architectury that has the verify AT gradle task
lyric shale
#1019655534900678737 message
mossy hollow
@radiant depot How do your animated items work? Is it the mcmeta or the .gif?
radiant depot
Mcmeta
mossy hollow
Does AbstractRitual#onEnd get called when the ritual brazier is broken?
I'm trying to find a way to make sure my ritual cleans up after itself 😄
zealous zenith
I doubt it
mossy hollow
Alright, will need to make a PR for this one then
mossy hollow
Can we get a post tag for 1.20 in #1019655289873641555 ?
radiant depot
done
mossy hollow
Is there anyway to determine if a spell was cast with Reactive from the glyph?
radiant depot
Umh, maybe the casting item?
There is one included in the spell context
If reactive is coded as it should, you would be able to check it
mossy hollow
It uses a Reactive caster, but I couldn't find a way to get the actual caster
radiant depot
No I mean the literal "casting item"
It's either in the resolver or in the context
neat mango
Why were shards changed into tokens?
radiant depot
Too easy to confuse them, especially for colorblinds
neat mango
yeah thats understandable
radiant depot
The drygmy mistaken for starbies are a lot
mossy hollow
when working on Ars, I press debug on IntelliJ and it doesn't kill my old instance automatically, is this the forge experience?
radiant depot
I guess?
you need to restart the debug from the debug console if you want exactly that
mossy hollow
hmm, will have to check that
I keep starting a new instance and then I end up with 5 instances running because it didn't close the old ones
zealous zenith
Mine prompts me to kill the older one
mossy hollow
Hmm, that's what I get on my Archloom ones, but not on Ars itself
zealous zenith
iirc its an intellij popup that you can dismiss forever
maybe its a setting you can reenabel
neat mango
where does the spell cost check happens? I also want to trigger the "not enough mana" overlay
neat mango
found it. NotEnoughManaPacket
wide swan
A question. is it ok to make my assets ARR because I wanna safe them but the problem is I retextured magebloom for new variants.
neat mango
you can make the textures that you made ARR but the ones that you took from other sources and modified, those need to be licensed like they were originally
shadow helm
Derivative works must be licensed under the GPL and be subject to all of its restrictions. Unlike works licensed under the MIT or the BSD License, works derivative of work licensed under the GPL (or the original work itself) may not be made proprietary or otherwise limited in their distribution.
https://github.com/baileyholl/Ars-Nouveau/blob/main/license.txt
Not without express permission
gleaming fox
does anyone here have any plans of making a « bridge » mod between iron’s spellbooks and AN mana?
(asking for a future project)
wide swan
> Derivative works must be licensed under the GPL and be subject to all of its r...
is there a way to license my armors with ARR without licensing the items?
mossy hollow
is there a way to license my armors with ARR without licensing the items?
Only if you didn't build on existing Ars assets for them
shadow helm
If so, you can probably make it clear in your license & folder structure that specific parts of this repository are not covered by ARR but GPL instead
I'm no lawyer though, just a Software Dev with a passing interest in licenses because I don't want to get sued into oblivion by actual lawyers for violating a license
wide swan
Only if you didn't build on existing Ars assets for them
the armor sets are different
mossy hollow
The armor sets should be fine to stay ARR as long as you didn't use code from Ars or the assets in them
The seeds, fibers, magebloom and sourcegems would have to be LGPL
wide swan
The armor sets should be fine to stay ARR as long as you didn't use code from Ar...
hmm
the project is LPGL I only wanna have the armor assets ARR
mossy hollow
Extending the armor should be fine under LGPL, but if you've directly copied and pasted code to reuse it then that would be LGPL
Assets you should be fine to have ARR
They look entirely original
It'll just be a dual license project, LGPL for everything but armor assets
neat mango
They look entirely original
(except the recolors)
mossy hollow
I mean purely the armor assets
mossy hollow
The seeds, fibers, magebloom and sourcegems would have to be LGPL
Obviously not the stuff mentioned here ^
wide swan
I have done it for Epic Samurais as well but. I dont know how I can only make the armors ARR
mossy hollow
Just specify the file paths and say which assets are original and all covered by ARR
neat mango
add it your readme as well
and mention which assets you are exactly talking about. "Assets" is a general term. You need to specifically mention textures etc
after working on 1.20.2+, coming back to 1.20.1 is painful. CODECs are so much nicer than writing serializers manually
1.20.5 added StreamCodecs which make networking also streamlined
mossy hollow
mojang what
zealous zenith
not a record?
mossy hollow
I'm more talking about this.z = y
radiant depot
Probably just an error of whoever made the method
ChunkPos don't have y
But the instinct for pos is to start with xy
mossy hollow
Yeah, it threw me off when I was working with them, I saw they took in a y but chunkpos.y wasn't working
mossy hollow
@Override
public boolean canConsumeItem(ItemStack stack) {
if (getWorld() == null) return super.canConsumeItem(stack);
if (!ServerConfig.SERVER.chunkloading_radius_incremental.get()) return super.canConsumeItem(stack);
ResourceLocation item = ResourceLocation.tryParse(ServerConfig.SERVER.chunkloading_radius_increment_item.get());
if (item == null) return super.canConsumeItem(stack);
ResourceKey<Item> key = ResourceKey.create(Registries.ITEM, item);
Optional<? extends Holder<Item>> optional = getWorld().holderLookup(Registries.ITEM).get(key);
if (optional.isEmpty()) return super.canConsumeItem(stack);
Item i = optional.get().get();
return stack.is(i);
}
is this the simplest way of converting an item string to an item?
it seems convoluted
radiant depot
ForgeRegistries.ITEMS.get(..) ?
mossy hollow
Wasn't aware that existed but it'll go in Neoforge right?
radiant depot
Maybe it is not get but a longer method name, but it's even in 1.19
mossy hollow
Yeah but in new Neoforge versions it'll be gone but this won't be (hopefully)
radiant depot
I'd guess some kind of replacement would be there?
mossy hollow
I may have forgotten to implement the save and load functions for my Ender Source Jar saved data, I have no idea how it's working rn lmao
I think it's taking the source of the first jar loaded when the chunk loads
neat mango
Yeah but in new Neoforge versions it'll be gone but this won't be (hopefully)
nah it still there
Neoforge changed how registeries work internally. methods have changed but all the functionality is still there
DeferredRegistry and Registries in general are nicer to work with
steep spruce
are licenses that important?
gleaming fox
yes
very very important
they define how much of your work people can steal borrow
radiant depot
it's theorically the only legal tool to protect your work online
in practice you really need to screw over to have someone calling lawyers to enforce their license rights and not simply ask you to remove the bad stuff
radiant depot
For whover is maintaining Aura Glyph, I suggest checking the helix particle of 
It should be possible to use them, by adjusting radius to show the (horizontal) area that is being affected
gleaming fox
noted
gleaming fox
i just figured out how to create a pseudo custom dust particle
that took way too long
bright shore
for some reason, my caster tool casts its spell when trying to put it on the scribes table and I can't figure out why
has anyone else had this problem?
oh right it's cause I bypass the normal casting checks so that I can validate myself so that I can ignore validation errors relating to too many amplify augments because I add extra amplify augments beyond the limits
should be an easy fix
neat mango
does Ars Nouveau use Caelus API for elytra behaviour ? It doesnt seem to jarjarred or added as dependency in the manifest
its only compiled against in the buildscript
mossy hollow
does Ars Nouveau use Caelus API for elytra behaviour ? It doesnt seem to jarjarr...
It's optional dependency, if Caelus is loaded Ars checks on tick if the player has the glide effect and then sets the player flying
neat mango
ah that makes sense. caelus stuff is probably for compat if its loaded
another question is why are glyphs stored in a regular map and not a registry ?
zealous zenith
A forge registry?
neat mango
yes. a deferred one maybe
zealous zenith
They are tied to items and have to be registered in mod init
What do you want the forge registry for?
neat mango
I just reading through the code and checking how it all works
I am working on my own mod (not an addon) and was using Ars as a reference for architecture and code design
can I use the glyph textures as temporary textures? atleast till I get a proof of concept working ?
zealous zenith
Sure
neat mango
thanks a lot!
neat mango
is the spell validation done only on client side or does server verify it also ? if its client only, were there any problems with it ?
bright shore
There's crafting validation which I think is client side but there's also a few things validated at cast time, which is done on the server
I don't recall which is which but there's a class called something along the lines of default or basic spell validator or something idk which uses a compound validator of the other main validators and is used by most things that validate spells, and it takes a Boolean for whether this is at crafting time
IIRC
neat mango
I am mostly concerned about players trying to exploit stuff it is only client sided
mossy hollow
It depends on the config option, there's one to enforce validation at cast time
neat mango
Wasnt there a feature that lets you drag and reorganize glyphs in a spell ?
was this it ? Why do i remember a drag and drop ui
radiant depot
Press the number on the pad while hovering on a glyph
No drag and drop cause it would be way harder, this was just few minutes
mossy hollow
What's the best way for addons to insert augment behaviour into other glyphs? I'm guessing it's going to need mixins
radiant depot
for the behaviour yes
you have the events but usually it's just on specific triggers
mossy hollow
Yeah makes sense
mossy hollow
Is there a way to detect when an item is being put into a container?
radiant depot
There should be something on the lines of that, but unsure if it covers everything
And if it was an event or just a possible mixin hook
mossy hollow
I think it's a mixin, I haven't found any events for it, I was thinking of adding a mixin to Inventory#add
mossy hollow
why my textures have no transparency? The texture itself has transparent pixels I have no idea what I've done wrong
I've checked block properties, blockstates, textures, models, etc. and found nothing
Solved thanks to NeoForge discord, didn't realise I needed a render type
mossy hollow
Is there a way I can add my item as a related chapter to a pre-exiting entry in Patchouli?
I'm guessing I just need to generate an overriding page?
zealous zenith
does patchouli support overriding pages? I thought you could only add to an existing category, not any of its entries
mossy hollow
does patchouli support overriding pages? I thought you could only add to an exis...
You can override an entry in 1.20 because they use assets and usual resource overriding
Talking to them in the discord, it's possible to do it at runtime from the client, which may be what I do
zealous zenith
interesting
needing to dynamically update pages was a main reason to make our own book
mossy hollow
I'll let you know if I get it working
mossy hollow
Mixed news
Good news is there's an event for when a books contents are loaded
Bad news is that they never actually call the event
Good news it's easy to add a small mixin to trigger the event at the appropriate time
Bad news the actual page entries are protected so you need an accessor to access them.
Good news, once you have the accessor it's possible to edit the pages
mossy hollow
Can do, what was wanted to be dynamically updated?
radiant depot
I mean, speaking for me it would be nice to add the focus effects directly on the pages.
Unsure on if base Ars needs it
But it's worth integrating into base Ars for anyone who can need it instead of only in an addon
mossy hollow
For sure, makes sense
It's unfortunately processed on the client, would that be an issue?
radiant depot
well, nobody will open the book on serverside 😛
mossy hollow
I mean accessing the data you need in the book
radiant depot
it's more like a problem for datapacking
or to be more precise, server-only datapacks
usually modpacks have the same data on both
mossy hollow
That's true
radiant depot
isn't data synced anyway?
mossy hollow
I have no idea
radiant depot
a ton of stuff is sent from server to clients
mossy hollow
private static ResourceLocation WORN_NOTEBOOK = new ResourceLocation(ArsNouveau.MODID, "worn_notebook");
@SubscribeEvent
public static void updateBookContents(BookContentsReloadEvent event) {
ResourceLocation bookId = event.getBook();
if (!bookId.equals(WORN_NOTEBOOK)) return;
Book wornNotebook = BookRegistry.INSTANCE.books.get(WORN_NOTEBOOK);
Map<ResourceLocation, BookEntry> entries = wornNotebook.getContents().entries;
BookEntry storageLectern = entries.get(new ResourceLocation(ArsNouveau.MODID, "machines/storage_lectern"));
if (storageLectern == null) return;
List<BookPage> pages = storageLectern.getPages();
Optional<BookPage> relationsPage = pages.stream().filter(page -> page instanceof PageRelations).findFirst();
if (relationsPage.isEmpty()) return;
PageRelationsAccessor relations = (PageRelationsAccessor) relationsPage.get();
relations.getEntries().add(entries.get(new ResourceLocation(ArsNouveau.MODID, "machines/warp_indexes")));
}
this is what it ends up looking like to edit a page btw
neat mango
How is ars nouveau published? the GH workflow was last run 6 months ago so it cannot be that
zealous zenith
Manually
radiant depot
Do you want someone to update the publish?
There was a point in time where it broke
Mine should be updated enough to work AE/E:R
But there are probably still deprecated warnings
zealous zenith
It doesn’t really save much time because I still have to write the change log on both websites
neat mango
I maintain a changelog.md file for mine and when publishing, the workflow fetches the correct text from it the file and uses that on for GH, CF and modrinth release
would you like such an approach ?
mossy hollow
I use the GitHub workflow for publishing Ars Additions
neat mango
Manually
I think you forgot to do modrinth release for 4.10
tbh the modrinth page could use a bit of love. it doesnt have the same description as CF and the license is wrong (GPL3 instead of LGPL3) 😅
zealous zenith
I’ve pretty much given up on modrinth lol
neat mango
Yeah I can understand that. but given that there are users there already #general-and-help message, I think we shouldnt leave them hanging
radiant depot
It doesn’t really save much time because I still have to write the change log on...
No? The action have a field for changelogs
I should probably keep the changelog.md too
Instead of looking at commits to remember what I added, lol
mossy hollow
Yeah I'm probably going to do the same adaptation
mossy hollow
Does anyone know if it's possible to make a conditional recipe based on a config value? I implemented an ICondition to check the config, but it seems the recipe loads before the config does, so I'm unsure what else to try
zealous zenith
configs should be loaded well before the world when the recipes load
or did you put them in the server config?
radiant depot
Likely server config
mossy hollow
Oh right, so what's my option for server then?
mossy hollow
It seems like it's working on server boot too
zealous zenith
Ye but not if the user has a different common config since it’s not synced
If the client needs info on that flag then it has a chance of not being active
mossy hollow
I don't think it should matter because it's just used for whether a recipe is active
I will need to test
zealous zenith
You can also call a method to just force load your config during mod init
That works for common at least, I wonder if it works for server
mossy hollow
Ah interesting
mossy hollow
how the heck do I get my cube to sit on it's point
like I can get it from one angle
but the other angle sucks
like surely 45 degrees should do it
rugged urchin
ok i remember fighting this on multiple occasions and im trying to remember the fix lol
it's not as simple as 45
the one time a square betrays us is rotating it onto its corner
X axis at 45
Z axis at 35.26
radiant depot
make sure the pivot is in the right place
rugged urchin
yeah with pivot in center
Apparently this is the math for you geometry buffs
If the square is 1x1x1, then the right angle of the second rotation should be arctan(1/sqrt(2)) ≈ 35.2644, so the right rotation angles should be 45 / 35.2644 / 0
mossy hollow
ty, will take a look
ah shit, but now it's going to be really hard to rotate right?
rugged urchin
it shouldn't be
Just make sure the animation is set to global and not local
Or even easier, rotate the cube itself to where you want it and and then stuff it into a bone with no rotations. Then you animate the bone
I also don't mind making the animation for you if you'd like. Unless you prefer to learn on your own
mossy hollow
Or even easier, rotate the cube itself to where you want it and and then stuff i...
this was much easier, thank you
I want to try learn, I'm not great on this so I'm hoping to atleast become basically able
rugged urchin
i'm happy to help any way i can
mossy hollow
Bailey feel free to hit me up if Goo doesn't have any capacity to work on design stuff
rest of my portfolio:
zealous zenith
will you make a model of nook
mossy hollow
next request
mossy hollow
penguins are birds so this counts
gilded lintel
Can I request a balloon snake?
mossy hollow
May need a bit more practice for that one, I'll give it a try tomorrow
gilded lintel
I'll accept a straight line
rugged urchin
next request
that's just a photograph
mossy hollow
@rugged urchin, do you have any Ars style button textures? Thinking of ways I can make this look better
rugged urchin
I think all of the buttons we have are like parchment themed for the spell book and bookwyrm UIs
mossy hollow
May just get some Sourcestone buttons
mossy hollow
maybe I'm blind but how on earth can this be 6.149...?
radiant depot
something something maybe it returns the squared dist?
mossy hollow
Maybe, I just switched it to player.blockPosition().distToCenterSqr(...)
and it works
All this to prevent people abusing it with scryers eye
mossy hollow
Asking generally, but I suspect Alex might know as he does a lot of conditional stuff, is there any way to add a structure to a template pool based on a condition? I want to add Ars Elemental compat to Ars Additions with a Flashing Ruined Warp Portal
arctic bronze
I'm trying to add some new augments to the compatible augments of all the spells that would be compatible with similar effects ie add AOE II to all spells compatible with AOE. I was using TooManyGlyphs AugmentCompatibilityValidatorMixin as an example but I'm getting an error when I use the same target
zealous zenith
a runtime error or just the IDE warning?
arctic bronze
says: Method/field descriptor is required for member reference in @At target
zealous zenith
Not sure, are you on an older version? I didn’t think tmg was fully up to date
arctic bronze
I thought this version was but I'll try and scout around for other examples. I know ars omega does somthing similar but that would be out of date. Any idea of what add ons to look for?
zealous zenith
Not Enough Gylphs might have that stuff but I’m not sure
Alex may have left them out
mossy hollow
I'm trying to add some new augments to the compatible augments of all the spells...
Unsure why you're getting the error, but I'd recommend using WrapOperation instead of Redirect
arctic bronze
I'll give it a try. Learning Java as I go but I'll try and get it to work
mossy hollow
If you have TMG in your dev environment that could be causing issues due to multiple redirects, so that's another potential cause
arctic bronze
hmm, could I run into issues with incompatibility between the add-ons?
mossy hollow
If you use redirect yes
neat mango
I'm trying to add some new augments to the compatible augments of all the spells...
you have METHOD="*" which will not work with @AT
but yeah not a good idea to you use redirects
neat mango
I'll give it a try. Learning Java as I go but I'll try and get it to work
not a good idea honestly, especially while using mixins. mixins require atleast basic understanding of how control flow and operations work.
learning java while doing simple modding is fine. Mixins are higher level
radiant depot
you can avoid the mixin btw, it's just derringer that preferred that approach
Omega have alternate AoEs too btw, you could also check their way
arctic bronze
Thanks, I’ll look into it tomorrow. I was trying to find where greater aoe was added to the compatibility but decided to call it a night
mossy hollow
Learning Java while doing mixins is fine, I'd possibly agree if it was learning programming at all, but if you understand most of the language constructs, mixins aren't too bad to learn with
I'm speaking from experience, I never touched Java before I started modding Minecraft, and my first mod had mixins
radiant depot
The non-mixin way is to add the additional augments in post init
Iterate the glyph map, if a glyph is compatible with AOE, add your Aoes
neat mango
getting meaningful logs and understanding them when using mixins is harder than regular api stuff which is why I wont recommend it. It is possible yes, but if regular apis do it, then do that
mossy hollow
It'll still require mixins for the augment implementation though
neat mango
we could add a method to the GlyphRegistry that adds an augment to an exisiting glyph during registration
radiant depot
Again, there's the way
Elemental adds augments without mixins
And the any augment based on spellstats it's easy to implement
Amps, Duration, Aoe, Speed
They only need to increase the stat and if the glyph is coded to use them it will be pretty smooth
What wouldn't work is with explicit augment checks
Like 
mossy hollow
Goo, how does one make animations transition properly into each other?
I have an open, spin and close animation
zealous zenith
geckolib will lerp it for you if you chain them
mossy hollow
ooh, that's perfect
mossy hollow
that should be perfect then, how about handling lighting on spinning objects?
rugged urchin
what is going on with that cube
rugged urchin
ya
mossy hollow
it's because I have an inverted cube there too
to render inside texture
it's just clipping on the preview because I had it set to the wrong project type
rugged urchin
oh ok
arctic bronze
I've been trying to get ArsOmega's method for adding compatibility to work but it gets mad with the getSpellpartMap function. Did something get changed between the versions? not sure what's wrong here
arctic bronze
That worked! Thanks
arctic bronze
Are the files in the cache using a specific format of UUID?
zealous zenith
The datagen cache?
arctic bronze
Yea
zealous zenith
They are generated when you run the run data command
arctic bronze
Got pretty much everything working for my first batch of glyphs except the spell tier. Is there something besides overriding the default spelltier in the glyph file that needs to be setup?
arctic bronze
Sorry for asking so many questions but is there a way to reference the total spell cost from a glyph? Like for example instead of a flat value an effect costs mana equal to 10% of the current spell cost?
zealous zenith
There isn’t anything like that no
I think there is a forge even that lets you modify the spell cost, you could do it there
radiant depot
Got pretty much everything working for my first batch of glyphs except the spell...
Override the default tier method iirc
arctic bronze
public SpellTier defaultTier() {
return SpellTier.THREE;
}``` This is what I haveTiers are a config thing
You need to delete the configs in your test environment to see if this changed the default value
But that looks like it should work
arctic bronze
I'm trying to make a version of the lingering spell but the 'level' variable from the EntityLingeringSpell class is giving errors that:" 'level' has private access in 'net.minecraft.world.entity.Entity" I believe that actual version the class uses is from the ars nouveau ChangeableBehavior class but it doesn't want to use that one. Is there a work around?
zealous zenith
Just use level() if you are in an entity class
Ars uses an access transformer to make it public
arctic bronze
Thought that wasn't working only to realize that was working it just creates a new error lol
arctic bronze
Trying to create a version of linger but it crashes when the spell resolves. It may be the issue but it's probably something else but I noticed that the blacklist .json gets removed when I ise runData
Not really sure where I should start looking
zealous zenith
all entities need a renderer attached
the ClientHandler class has an example on registering them
arctic bronze
k thanks
mossy hollow
What's the Java-style solution to this? I have 3 status for an operation, pending, success and failure, which I'd usually make an enum, however I need to associate a BlockPos with the status if it's a success, no data needed for the other two statuses. Should I just make a class to track it? Feels a bit overkill
shadow helm
Feels like overkill, is the way to go though if you want to associate 2 values with each other.
Well, you could use a pre-defined tupel class, too.
But that's one of the things with Java where I miss JS/TS and just being able to create an object an use it
radiant depot
you can always make a record
quick and painless classes
idk if it's the right use, but Pair exists too
neat mango
sealed records yes
switch pattern matching makes this very easy to understand. I dont think we have that fully in java 17 though
arctic bronze
What would I use if I wanted to redefine how the spell cost is calculated? Wanted to add a glyph that would reduce the cost of a spell by a multiplicative %. Would look like: Newcost = Cost * R ^ X. 'R' being the percent remaining from reduction and X being the number of that glyph present.
arctic bronze
Looking like I can't avoid mixins
zealous zenith
did you look into SpellCostCalcEvent? That would be my first guess for a cost multiplier
arctic bronze
did you look into `SpellCostCalcEvent`? That would be my first guess for a cost ...
I'll take a look thanks
arctic bronze
from what I can tell I'd want to edit the getCost method. Just trying to figure out the diffrence between @Inject amd @Redirect. If I could just add some code where I wanted that would be fine but I'm not sure how I could get the exact spot. Just trying to figure out if there's a way to just replace the whole thing. Is that what Redirect is doing?
zealous zenith
You shouldn’t be using a mixin for this, the spell cost event lets you modify the spell cost based on whatever you like
arctic bronze
hmm I guess I'll look into events then. It's kinda hard to figure out how to use it properly, I don't see it on gitHub but it's in my external libraries
It's very possible I'm misinterpreting this but is the SpellCostCalcEvent used when creating a spell or just when it resolves? I'd like the discount to take place before the spell is cast so you can cast the spell if it's too expensive without the glyph / see how much it's going to cost
radiant depot
It gets called before to see if you can cast and later when the mana is expended
arctic bronze
Noticed that when I was changing the mana cost of one of my glyphs that it didn't actually change in the runClient. Is there something I need to run to re-initialize these values?
zealous zenith
you have to delete the configs, they are just config defaults
neat mango
continuing conversation from yesterday, there are plans to rework how transfer works in neo. could potentially fix lag because of large inventories
radiant depot
There was the intention but it's kinda a problem loop on how to do the retrieval api
neat mango
retrieval api? what does that mean?
radiant depot
I mean like, proper implementation from the storage handler on how to supply an item when asked
neat mango
extraction?
radiant depot
What would the retriever ask? For a predicate? But then you can't use maps. Stacks? Then you're limiting
Stuff like that, extract is a more fitting word yeah
neat mango
For a predicate? But then you can't use maps
Why wouldn't this work ?
gleaming fox
how should i go about creating a temporary light source ?
neat mango
map.keys.filter{predicate} would work no ?
shadow helm
how should i go about creating a temporary light source ?
The lights from the jar o light are temporary I think. Maybe those can help?
radiant depot
`map.keys.filter{predicate}` would work no ?
It would still iterate through all no?
gleaming fox
The lights from the jar o light are temporary I think. Maybe those can help?
oh, i didn’t know that there was an item like that. Many thanks
neat mango
It would still iterate through all no?
hm. this is an interesting problem
how do you store data without needing to iterate over them
zealous zenith
A stack request would be fine
mossy hollow
How do I get my geckolib block to render in item form?
radiant depot
initialize item on the blockitem iirc?
mossy hollow
Ah I need to use RendererBlockItem right?
radiant depot
check the ars turrets just to be sure
mossy hollow
I got it working using the RendererBlockItem
mossy hollow
@rugged urchin can I use your art? 👉 👈
rugged urchin
lol sure, but what am i looking at exactly?
mossy hollow
minecraft painting of your snoozebuncle
rugged urchin
i love how it's a pixelated version of pixel art
mossy hollow
I'm unsure if I want the 16x16 version or the 32x32 and have it be bigger
like a 2x2
32x32
radiant depot
I proposed paintings to Goo for main mod but they ended in infinite 
Not sure when, but surely after the family xmas art
rugged urchin
oh yeah, were were considering making the redbubble store art into paintings
32x32 to put it over your 2x2 fireplace
mossy hollow
Want to check if I'm okay to include a custom named Starbuncle as part of the loot in my new Warp Nexus tower, wanted to have a chance of the scribes table spawning with a Starbuncle charm on it named by the people who have helped with the mod, wouldn't include the adopter text so that it's distinct from the Starbuncle Adopters and they would never spawn naturally, would be just two special Starbuncles that have a chance to be obtained in the towers
rugged urchin
Yeah that's fine
loud widget
is there an easy way to "disable" (or at least compensate) the dig speed penaulty that the player gets when they are riding an entity? I wanted the dig speed when riding the entity be the same as the regular dig speed
if anyone know somewhere that has something similar to this implemented
arctic bronze
if anyone know somewhere that has something similar to this implemented
Stable footing enchantment from apotheosis?
loud widget
Stable footing enchantment from apotheosis?
oh, thats exactly what i needed, ty
spark mantle
oh, thats exactly what i needed, ty
Oh let me know how that works out, I'm working on a summoning addition to Ars and I want to add a utility mount that would benefit from that specific use case.
mossy hollow
I'm having issues with using paintings inside my worldgen structures. I have a 2x2 painting that randomizes it's placement originating from any square in that 2x2, example attached. Anyone know how I can fix this? I want the painting to always be on the blocks below where it is on the first image.
mossy hollow
Turns out to be a vanilla bug, fixed with a mixin to StructureTemplate
So what do I need to do to implement a form on a Turret? Is it just checking for fake player?
zealous zenith
Add it to the map with the targeting logic
mossy hollow
Ah the turret behaviour map?
zealous zenith
Ya
arctic bronze
Kinda unrelated but how would I add Ars Nouveau as a dependency on the curse forge site? Would I have to wait for the upload to get approved
zealous zenith
If you click on the file there is an option to edit it
mossy hollow
They usually provide a reason, it should be in your notifications
arctic bronze
nevermind I just saw that
mossy hollow
What was the reason?
arctic bronze
I uploaded a .jar instead of a .zip
mossy hollow
Wha
You shouldn't need to upload a zip
Are you sure you've submitted it as a mod?
Not a modpack
arctic bronze
I picked "Addon"
mossy hollow
Ah I don't think that'll be the correct section
arctic bronze
whoops
mossy hollow
I'm going crazy with geckolib3, backporting from 1.20.1 to 1.19.2 and for some reason my tile entity in my renderer is null, and I have no idea why.
@Override
public void renderEarly(WarpNexusTile animatable, PoseStack poseStack, float partialTick, MultiBufferSource bufferSource, VertexConsumer buffer, int packedLight, int packedOverlay, float red, float green, float blue, float alpha) {
try {
if (animatable.getBlockState().getBlock() != AddonBlockRegistry.WARP_NEXUS.get()) return;
if (animatable.getBlockState().getValue(WarpNexus.HALF) != DoubleBlockHalf.LOWER) return;
renderItem(animatable, poseStack, partialTick, bufferSource, buffer, packedLight, packedOverlay, red, green, blue, alpha);
} catch (Exception e) {
e.printStackTrace();
}
}
java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot invoke "com.github.jarva.arsadditions.block.tile.WarpNexusTile.getBlockState()" because "this.animatable" is null
Anyone encountered this before?
nevermind, don't code sleep deprived
arctic bronze
what does the wrappedCaster mean for the spellContext? Just noticed that when I tried implementing the swap target effect it wasn't working as intended
loud widget
Oh let me know how that works out, I'm working on a summoning addition to Ars an...
it worked out pretty well. The way apotheosis implements it is by overidding the breakSpreed event
loud widget
Oh let me know how that works out, I'm working on a summoning addition to Ars an...
like this
loud widget
yeah i was also surprised. I though it woud use some mixin magic or something like that
loud widget
does anyone know of a simple example of a gui implementation? (a Screen) im struggling out here ;-;
mossy hollow
You could take a look at the new nexus screen I made for Ars Additions
It's pretty basic
loud widget
i think i im opening my screen in the wrong way. Im using Minecraft.getInstance().setScreen() but when the screen opens i get Cannot invoke "net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.getNarrator()" because "this.minecraft" is null
im calling it from an Item class like this
mossy hollow
That looks fine to me, maybe make sure it's definitely on the client, where do you call openWandScreen?
mossy hollow
That's being called on the server
You may be able to use NetworkHooks for it, but you need to tell the client to open the menu
vivid trellis
Hey there,
So I have maybe simple... maybe not at all question 
Currently working on ad addon (Will spoil what it is as it's cursed later on), and I'm curious how the AbstractRitual#canStart() is supposed to work 
In theory on the client side, I don't have access to a lot of stuff, but when set to true on client and false on the server, it "executes" the ritual on the client, but not on the server Oo
It's hard to find an example, as in the Ars itself it seems to be not used, and the only one I found just returns true on the client side? 
So I'm a bit confused here. Thanks in advance 
mossy hollow
I've started work on a repository that clones and produces build for every addon it's set up to do so, should hopefully allow a single repository for all assets for a given MC version
Will solve the issue with needing to publish generated assets to GitHub
mossy hollow
@radiant depot any idea why NEG fails to build? https://github.com/Jarva/ArsAddonBuilder/actions/runs/9036465599/job/24833404299
radiant depot
that's a full blown error on mc classes
no idea
and to be fair neg doesn't even seem to be the only one, tmg and base ars fail too
mossy hollow
Yeah, NEG failed first, TMG looks similar, Ars failed due to assets failing to download which is fine
radiant depot
for all i know, could be tied to still have the lexforge buildscript instead of neo one
otherwise some kind of clash with tmg ?
radiant depot
for all i know, could be tied to still have the lexforge buildscript instead of ...
ok no, elemental still have traces too but builds
mossy hollow
otherwise some kind of clash with tmg ?
They all build on separate runners, so can't be a conflict, TMG is on 1.19.2 because it doesn't actually have 1.20.1 published on GitHub
lethal cosmos
I want to add spellbow’s 3d model..
but i dont know how is is
Customdata is not working… help me..
Version is 1.16.5
radiant depot
The bow is made with geckolib so it has its own rules
you probably can only override the model entirely, not conditional like other items
so basically make a 3d model in blockbench in geckolib format then wrap it in a texturepack to override it (same folder path and file names, the usual asset swapping)
radiant depot
afaik that's it
it doesn't use the same system as other items, but uses another mod that handles custom models + animations
lethal cosmos
Okay Thank you!!
mossy hollow
@rugged urchin I think these were overlooked on the archwood retexture, seems to just be doors and trapdoors now
rugged urchin
Ooh yeah we will try to remember when we get back lol
loud widget
does anyone know of a library/utility/helper/something that can easily generate blockpos for terrain features? Like, if i wanted to make a spell that generates a ravine, is there a tool that can generate the coords for every block that would need to be "eroded" to form that shape?
loud widget
oh well, looks like there isn't ;-; time to learn how to use noise then, i guess
arctic bronze
How is the mana regen buff from the mana regen effect applied?
loud widget
does anyone know how to disable the dark shade that minecraft applies to entity models when their eyes are inside blocks?
gleaming fox
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/nofog maybe this could help?
loud widget
hmm, i dont think that is gonna help :/ What i meant is this dark effect that is applied when the eyes of the entity is inside a block. The entity looks fine when it is not inside blocks, but when there is a block at the origin of that blue line (the eyes, i believe) the entity gets darkened
orchid garden
I am trying to make an addon that adds a ton of spell sounds
how do I add a spell sound?
orchid garden
can you walk me through it?
mossy hollow
Do you have any experience making mods?
orchid garden
barely any
I've made a simple mod a while ago that just adds a few items and blocks
I can get it fast if I have stuff to base on though
mossy hollow
You should be able to just clone the example addon, it already registers a new spell sound so you can use that as a base
orchid garden
how do I test the mod?
mossy hollow
You can use the gradle task runClient
mossy hollow
Gradle tasks can be ran using gradlew, ./gradlew runClient
You may have an easier time developing with Intellij, the community edition is free to use
mossy hollow
I believe we all use Intellij here, some version of it anyway, I haven't used vscode for Java before
It may be possible, but it's never been needed
orchid garden
I've made a simple mod a while ago that just adds a few items and blocks
I think I used intellij for that mod but again it was a while ago
I don't know where that mod is, it's probably on an old computer
I'm assuming I install this too?
https://plugins.jetbrains.com/plugin/8327-minecraft-development
mossy hollow
Yeah it's useful to have
orchid garden
I just remembered I've figured out how to mod mods with 7zip too, could I just take an existing mod, gut it and leave just the stuff I need, and go from there?
(half joking because I will do it if it is easier)
gleaming fox
just use intellij
orchid garden
alrighty
orchid garden
I figured as much lol
alright I finally have all the stuff set up
I am still trying to figure out how to get it to run Minecraft
mossy hollow
When you open the project it should import it
And then on the right hand side you can see gradle tasks
mossy hollow
Wooo
radiant depot
can you walk me through it?
For spell sounds,
basically just add the sound files, make the sound jsons (Minecraft wiki for help on that) and then in code register the sound object and then the spell sound based on how it's done in the example
orchid garden
For spell sounds,
basically just add the sound files, make the sound jsons (Min...
so that's why I couldn't find sound files in the example mod
they were .jsons and not .wav or .ogg lol
what's the path to where the sounds are stored?
radiant depot
assets/modid/sounds
for the ogg files that's the path
while the jsons are defined simply in assets/modid/sounds.json
where a sound entry is made of one or multiple sound files references
it should randomly pick one of them when trying to play that sound type
the example is basically "random between all the default ones"
orchid garden
I am trying to change the mod ID and failing miserably
the game will run but the test glyph is showing as a missing texture
radiant depot
did you change the assets folder name too?
orchid garden
yeah
the sound is working just fine though
it shows up in the sound menu and plays the sounds
gleaming fox
did you edit the json files which contain the texture location?
radiant depot
the console should log an error/warn right before you get to the main screen, when it's asset related
radiant depot
lol, beautiful.
remember to check how the pitch changes behave, just for fun
rugged urchin
Lmao
mossy hollow
If you're going to release it make sure you have the rights to use those sounds
mossy hollow
Yeah, you're not going to be able to post stuff that you don't legally have the rights to use
mossy hollow
Look for copyright free sounds
orchid garden
If you're going to release it make sure you have the rights to use those sounds
is this a rule for curseforge and modrinth or something else?
orchid garden
asking because I've seen so many mods for Minecraft and other games use copyrighted assets, so I just want to know where the line is for Ars addons
mossy hollow
They may get away with it, until they don't and then it gets taken down
radiant depot
Chances for it to be noticed in short time is very very low
orchid garden
this is me just messing with a sound effects generator
none of the base sounds have a ton of power in them
mossy hollow
Is there any way to determine if an entity is a boss without having a custom tag or individual class check?
Ah there's forge:bosses
rugged urchin
asking because I've seen so many mods for Minecraft and other games use copyrigh...
This is why we had to have a sound designer make all of our current sounds
You can technically use the sounds without much issue if you were just somehow locally adding them for just your personal use, but mods/addons distribute the sounds, especially since we are open source which is where you get into the copyright territory.
orchid garden
what sort of features could I add in a sound based addon other than more sounds?
I am calling it Ars Suono
mossy hollow
I mean it's a pretty niche focus, but maybe you could add some stuff that interacts with echo shards or sculk sensors?
mossy hollow
No idea but there's an easy way to find out
orchid garden
I'm trying to but I can't figure out what the names of the sounds are
GOT IT
is there a way to get sounds to play when the spell resolves?
I want to add an option in the spell sound picker to change the resolve sound
radiant depot
A specific sound? Sure, probably not what you mean tho
But the spell sound picker is limited to what it can do
The tricky part of adding a niche glyph that simply plays a sound is the fact that we don't have a good way to let the player choose a sound dynamically
orchid garden
I don’t want to add a glyph for that, I just want a sound you choose in the sound picker to play when the spell resolves
bright shore
if you mean the same spell sound that the spell already plays I imagine that's easy
if you mean a different one then you face the problem that spells don't store extra data so that would be pretty tricky
unless you mean the menu opens each time you cast the glyph LOL
orchid garden
HECK YEAH
If I were to take this sound and change it a ton, would that be considered a transformative work and therefore perfectly fine to use in my mod? Because I would at the very least like a reference to the magikoopa sound lol
rugged urchin
I want to say it depends on what the license the magikoopa sound is under but idk for sure
and Nintendo is a rough beast to play with
orchid garden
how do you pack everything into a .jar file once you are done?
zealous zenith
run the build task
orchid garden
where does the file end up when it is done?
orchid garden
I don't think it worked
zealous zenith
in the builds/libs folder
orchid garden
nice thx
mossy hollow
How can I update an ImmutableMap, I know I shouldn't be able to but I need to in order to register a new EntitySubPredicate type, in 1.20.1 it doesn't have a registry :S
radiant depot
Replace it
mossy hollow
It's final and I can't get the access transformer to work 😦
radiant depot
If it's something that other people might wanna replace, you can check if it's still immutable
I do something like that in Eidolon I think
For signs
mossy hollow
Do you have a link?
mossy hollow
Ah, validBlocks is immutable?
radiant depot
Yeah
mossy hollow
Yeah, have shutdown my PC for tonight but will give it a go tomorrow
Needed for this
#1129621147256881272 message
mossy hollow
folks what is happening
package com.github.jarva.arsadditions.mixin;
import org.spongepowered.asm.mixin.Mixin;
import org.spongepowered.asm.mixin.gen.Accessor;
import vazkii.patchouli.client.book.BookEntry;
import vazkii.patchouli.client.book.BookPage;
import java.util.List;
@Mixin(BookEntry.class)
public interface BookEntryAccessor {
@Accessor("realPages")
List<BookPage> getRealPages();
}
It's probably something really dumb, but I'm so confused
zealous zenith
have to cast it as an object first
mossy hollow
thanks, why did I not have to do that for other accessors?
zealous zenith
you should have had to
mossy hollow
PageRelationsAccessor relationsAccessor = (PageRelationsAccessor) relations; this worked fine 
mossy hollow
Well with this working I can demo my Patchouli client editing util that I'm building up:
@SubscribeEvent
public static void updateBookContents(BookContentsReloadEvent event) {
ResourceLocation bookId = event.getBook();
if (!bookId.equals(WORN_NOTEBOOK)) return;
BookUtil.addRelation(
new ResourceLocation(ArsNouveau.MODID, "machines/storage_lectern"),
new ResourceLocation(ArsNouveau.MODID, "machines/warp_indexes")
);
BookPage wixiePage = BookUtil.newTextPage(
"ars_additions.page.wixie_enchanting_apparatus",
"ars_additions.page1.wixie_enchanting_apparatus"
);
BookUtil.addPage(new ResourceLocation(ArsNouveau.MODID, "automation/wixie_charm"), wixiePage, true, page -> {
if (page instanceof PageText text) {
PageTextAccessor textAccessor = (PageTextAccessor) text;
String title = textAccessor.getTitle();
if (title == null) return false;
return title.equals("ars_nouveau.potion_crafting");
}
return false;
});
}
Using this to add relations and modify existing entries to add extra pages
loud widget
publishing a mod to curseforge is so much work ç.ç
severe crystal
uh
does anyone know if i where alteration table files that determines what can be put in and can't is/what has thread slots?
radiant depot
If you're asking if they can be added via datapack, answer is no
The alteration table takes what has slots, and slots are defined in code
They slots be added to anything via code but a lot of perks won't work because they need explicit code to support them.
severe crystal
So, if I wanted to infuse a sword into a thread I’d have to make it a “thread” and tell it to mimic the attributes of the sword in the main hand
mossy hollow
Thoughts on the idea of a little JiJ analytics mod? Would aim to be compatible with any version, and tracks when item ids are crafted or items are used to give mod developers a better understanding of what features are popular
Would be like bstats but for mods
neat mango
google analytics in minecraft
mossy hollow
Basically, but fully anonymous and opt out in config
mossy hollow
Goo my artist has complained that "the dominion wand is too pretty i cant make it fancier" for my advanced dominion wand
rugged urchin
Lmao that was one Rid had done
radiant depot
uh, appears Identity is kinda discountinued but a fork exists
it's a mess to swap midver, but seems like morph glyph for 1.21 will have to
zealous zenith
the magic of java generics
mossy hollow
I have just made my first custom forge registry and it's honestly so confusing
mossy hollow
Turns out my first custom forge registry didn't even work 
zealous zenith
registry? broke. abusing the recipe system? woke
mossy hollow
My recipe needs a registry
For the source spawner, I'm building a system to modify NBT tags, and I need a registry for all my TagModifiers
mossy hollow
Going to post this here, little system I've implemented for my new charm mechanic, makes processing charm events super easy, proud of the little abstraction
https://github.com/Jarva/Ars-Additions/blob/1.20.1/src/main/java/com/github/jarva/arsadditions/common/item/curios/Charm.java#L159-L184
unreal summit
Can someone familiar with model animations in blockbench answer a question?
Is there a way to have the (X,y,z) of a bone reset every second. I tried using math.random(low,high) and it works but it shifts way too fast.
zealous zenith
Are you using geckolib or the normal blockbench animator?
unreal summit
Geckolib
zealous zenith
What do you mean by reset?
unreal summit
You familiar with the displacer beast from D&D?
I have a “displaced” image that I want to move randomly around
This is what it does using math.random()
I want to slow down how frequently it “jumps”
zealous zenith
Ahh. Just divide it I guess?
Hmm no that would just make it jump smaller not slower
You may have to use several key frames and split the time so it only jumps every 1 second
unreal summit
Is there a command to just “set” the position to a random value instead of continually calculate it? Then I could just set a new key frame at whatever interval.
zealous zenith
I’m not too familiar with molang but I thought you could do that with a key frame that calls random and then inmediately after you put a key frame with nothing for the position
rocky grail
sneak peek
need to add a few more functions to this then recipes & textures then thatll be 1.0.0
earliest im getting this done is like end of this week though
textures are gonna be really really bad
zealous zenith
what are you making?
rocky grail
take a guess from the screenshot
all info about that block can be guessed from just that screenshot :)
hint ||spell turret is Projectile -> Conjure Magelight||
answer ||spell prism that warps the projectile to an entity, currently only works with players, need to add dominion wand integration||
anyway gotta sleep, gotta wake up for work
mossy hollow
answer ||spell prism that warps the projectile to an entity, currently only work...
This is just like the Ars Additions reliquary but as a block
(the block form is currently in progress)
radiant depot
I wanted to make a warping prism lens but setting a destination would be a mess as the advanced spell prism already have a wand interaction
mossy hollow
Yeah my plan was to have a custom turret that shoots into a reliquary
rocky grail
didnt even know that existed, i think ill probably keep working on mine though
i have other ideas than just that prism too anyway
also it being a spell prism rather than a custom turret would increase compat with stuff like ars elementals infused turrets
rocky grail
ive had 0 success in getting runClient to work after 1.12 regardless of mod loaders
send help i hate having to build and drag the artifact
and yes ive (unsuccessfully) run genIntellijRuns Task 'genIntellijRuns' not found in root project
always happens
wonder if its a linux issue
shadow helm
It definitely doesn't happen on windows, so maybe. Starbuncle.Java is a Linux only boy though, he might have ideas
Or he's just going to shill Archloom instead of Forgegradle again 😝
rocky grail
gradle is the reason i hate developing for the jvm
mossy hollow
I have 0 issues with it, works out of the box for me on Forgegradle and Archloom
using intellij
mossy hollow
it would be an issue with your dev environment if so
rocky grail
yeah doesnt work
zealous zenith
Gradle bad
rocky grail
true
mossy hollow
Not a gradle problem
rocky grail
gradle still bad though
mossy hollow
Are you running it inside intellij? What errors do you get? What java version you using for gradle?
mossy hollow
gradle still bad though
disagree, I enjoy it as a build tool, much better than a lot of alternatives
rocky grail
Are you running it inside intellij? What errors do you get? What java version yo...
tried both in and on the terminal
using java 17
ill try graal 17 but i doubt itll do anything
yeah
mossy hollow
Java 17 which distro
mossy hollow
I'm using corretto, actually corretto 19 for gradle
mossy hollow
Maybe try corretto
I use corretto for all my java installs
Temurin is also decent
What linux distro?
rocky grail
hi on endeavour
mossy hollow
your beard isn't long enough, that's why it's failing
rocky grail
gonna do a hail mary and just try gradle 8.5 w/ jdk 21 lmao
zealous zenith
Need to also convince others in your company to switch to fully functional programming
Then make stack overflow posts
Only then will gradle work
mossy hollow
I'm trying to convince my company to ditch Scala
it's working but now they use typescript 🤢
rocky grail
i would like my team to switch to rust but im not gonna
neat mango
are you on intellij?
rocky grail
~ ➜ z nouveau
Ars-Nouveau 1.20 ➜ chmod +x ./gradlew; ./gradlew runClient
Configuration on demand is an incubating feature.
Path for java installation '/usr/lib/jvm/java-17-openjfx' (Common Linux Locations) does not contain a java executable
Path for java installation '/usr/lib/jvm/java-11-graalvm' (Common Linux Locations) does not contain a java executable
Path for java installation '/usr/lib/jvm/java-11-graalvm' (Common Linux Locations) does not contain a java executable
Path for java installation '/usr/lib/jvm/java-17-openjfx' (Common Linux Locations) does not contain a java executable
> Configure project :
MixinGradle is skipping eclipse integration, extension not found
FAILURE: Build failed with an exception.
* What went wrong:
Task 'runClient' not found in root project 'Ars-Nouveau'.
* Try:
> Run gradlew tasks to get a list of available tasks.
> Run with --stacktrace option to get the stack trace.
> Run with --info or --debug option to get more log output.
> Run with --scan to get full insights.
* Get more help at https://help.gradle.org
BUILD FAILED in 1s
why is it using systemjdk. intellij should download and do its own thing
rocky grail
well this was from my terminal
anyway ive tried basically all the jdks i have
none worked
so now im trying 21
and nope
Task 'runClient' not found in root project 'Ars-Controle'.
* Try:
> Run gradle tasks to get a list of available tasks.
> For more on name expansion, please refer to https://docs.gradle.org/8.5/userguide/command_line_interface.html#sec:name_abbreviation in the Gradle documentation.
> Run with --stacktrace option to get the stack trace.
> Run with --info or --debug option to get more log output.
> Run with --scan to get full insights.
> Get more help at https://help.gradle.org.
Deprecated Gradle features were used in this build, making it incompatible with Gradle 9.0.
You can use '--warning-mode all' to show the individual deprecation warnings and determine if they come from your own scripts or plugins.
For more on this, please refer to https://docs.gradle.org/8.5/userguide/command_line_interface.html#sec:command_line_warnings in the Gradle documentation.
BUILD FAILED in 3m 18s```what does archlinux-java report?
mossy hollow
Download jdk inside intellij
rocky grail
Available Java environments:
java-17-graalvm-ee (default)
java-17-openjdk
java-21-graalvm-ee
java-8-graalvm
java-8-jre/jre
java-8-openjdk
you need to use 17-openjdk. tried that?
mossy hollow
rocky grail
you need to use 17-openjdk. tried that?
yep
neat mango
that is weird
rocky grail
can be configured through idea too
mossy hollow
```
Task 'runClient' not found in root project 'Ars-Controle'.
* Try:
> Run gra...
That's because gradle 9 is too new
but yeah just download inside intellij
rocky grail
currently trying that
Task 'runClient' not found in root project 'Ars-Controle'.
* Try:
> Run gradle tasks to get a list of available tasks.
> Run with --stacktrace option to get the stack trace.
> Run with --info or --debug option to get more log output.
> Run with --scan to get full insights.```on corretto 17
mossy hollow
That's ran through the intellij gradle UI or terminal?
mossy hollow
Won't be a difference with that
rocky grail
no difference from graalvm 17 btw
mossy hollow
```
Task 'runClient' not found in root project 'Ars-Controle'.
* Try:
> Run gra...
This is weird, show a screenshot of your project layout?
rocky grail
or openjdk 17
my project layout is the addon template
it also just doesnt work with the ars nouveau repo
mossy hollow
That's really strange, for some reason your project isn't detecting the gradle tasks
Did anything fail to import?
When it imports your gradle project
zealous zenith
is your gradle setup to use the wrapper or the global install?
rocky grail
wrapper, i dont even have a global install anymore
eh i kinda cant be bothered until i figure this out
iteration is just so horrendously bad without runClient
zealous zenith
Does genIntellijRuns work?
rocky grail
nope
Task 'genIntellijRuns' not found in root project 'Ars-Controle'.
* Try:
> Run gradle tasks to get a list of available tasks.
> Run with --stacktrace option to get the stack trace.
> Run with --info or --debug option to get more log output.
> Run with --scan to get full insights.
If you open the gradle tab in IntelliJ do they appear?
rocky grail
yep
prepareRuns works but doesnt fix anything
10:36:10 PM: Executing 'prepareRuns'...
Configuration on demand is an incubating feature.
> Configure project :
MixinGradle is skipping eclipse integration, extension not found
> Task :downloadMcpConfig
> Task :extractSrg UP-TO-DATE
> Task :createSrgToMcp UP-TO-DATE
> Task :downloadMCMeta UP-TO-DATE
> Task :downloadAssets UP-TO-DATE
> Task :extractNatives UP-TO-DATE
> Task :makeSrcDirs
> Task :prepareRuns
Deprecated Gradle features were used in this build, making it incompatible with Gradle 8.0.
You can use '--warning-mode all' to show the individual deprecation warnings and determine if they come from your own scripts or plugins.
See https://docs.gradle.org/7.3/userguide/command_line_interface.html#sec:command_line_warnings
BUILD SUCCESSFUL in 2s
7 actionable tasks: 2 executed, 5 up-to-date
10:36:13 PM: Execution finished 'prepareRuns'.
fwiw gen(Eclipse|Intellij|VSCode)Runs dont work
run(Server|Data|Client) also dont work
prepareRun(Server|Data|Client) dont work either
thats everything in forgegradle runs
zealous zenith
Could try purging all things gradle and reimporting the project but I’m not really sure, haven’t seen that error in my time of dealing with gradle spaghetti
Gradle has a habit of inventing new errors when it thinks you should have a bad day
rocky grail
i mean i dont see what else i could purge except my global install
which i already purged
and its not like it only doesnt work in this project
zealous zenith
There is a local gradle cache iirc
rocky grail
it doesnt work in any project!
oh actually thats a lie, i just remembered it working with loom
but forge/architectury i never figured out
neoforge i havent tried yet
gosh if this works i might know why this happened
mossy hollow
oh actually thats a lie, i just remembered it working with loom
Architectury uses loom
Ars Additions and Ars Artifice use Forgeloom
rocky grail
gosh if this works i might know why this happened
the reason would likely be a previous massive skill issue from about a year ago
well, its still running
we'll see if it works
mossy hollow
the reason would likely be a previous massive skill issue from about a year ago
called it
rocky grail
not yet
mossy hollow
I'm ready for it 😄
rocky grail
hi ready for it 😄, im qther
mossy hollow
do you have some vencord plugin or something for that
rocky grail
the reason would likely be a previous massive skill issue from about a year ago
at this point its actually probably 2 years ago
rocky grail
do you have some vencord plugin or something for that
nah
can you even make custom plugins without it being on the central repo? never looked into it tbh
mossy hollow
ye
rocky grail
not that i ever needed one :p
mossy hollow
not that I'd ever use vencord
rocky grail
i definitely do not use vesktop to get better performance
been stuck on listLibraries for like 5 minutes now
still stuck on listLibraries
oh finally got past
got notified with my audio crackling
linux audio is so good /s
shadow helm
disagree, I enjoy it as a build tool, much better than a lot of alternatives
Are there other alternatives than Maven?
Ant has been dead for 15 years now, hasn't it?
(Apart from certain German Bureaucratic Institutions)
rocky grail
tbh the only build tool i can truly say i enjoy for any language ive ever used is cargo (for rust)
the worst one is either gradle or cabal
though im pretty sure my cabal experience is a skill issue
well actually i could probably pick any c++ build tool and have a worse experience with it
ok you win @mossy hollow
now the big reveal
1-3 years ago (its been so long i forgot) i accidentally created a file named '~'
you can guess what happened next
mossy hollow
lmfao
shadow helm
As far as worst go, webpack. Hands down, even C with make files was more fun.
Maven's potentially slow, but at least it's predictable. I've seen some dynamically scripted Gradle things that I'd like to forget.
rocky grail
whats webpack for again
shadow helm
Well... fun times!
mossy hollow
Are there other alternatives than Maven?
Ant has been dead for 15 years now, h...
Ant still exists but mainly Gradle, Maven and Bazel for Java
rocky grail
well thats enough dealing with java for today, tomorrow ill try setting up hot reloading then actually get some stuff done
mossy hollow
whats webpack for again
web, mainly frontend
rocky grail
really need to figure out patchouli
rocky grail
web, mainly frontend
ah i generally try not to touch the web
mossy hollow
I'd recommend it
rocky grail
currently doing an api at work though so i guess that counts
mossy hollow
recommend not touching web*
rocky grail
yeah i also recommend not touching web
especially frontend if anything
backend is at least mostly figured out
meanwhile a new frontend framework comes out every 10 seconds
shadow helm
Touch all the web things. Lose your sanity and join the dark side
mossy hollow
I did 4 years as a lead frontend developer, I managed to escape
rocky grail
the only web framework i enjoyed and can reasonably recommend is sveltekit
mossy hollow
not another one of you
rocky grail
and even then i dont really build websites unless necessary
mossy hollow
Ars wiki is sveltekit, and so is BlockPrints
rocky grail
sveltekit good
shadow helm
meanwhile a new frontend framework comes out every 10 seconds
Ehhh. Slowed down a lot. React's 11 years old and still the market share lead
rocky grail
waiting for the next version though
shadow helm
sveltekit good
This guy gets it! 😁
rocky grail
Ehhh. Slowed down a lot. React's 11 years old and still the market share lead
yeah but react also has "non-breaking" changes which make the ecosystem complete hell
shadow helm
Nothing against Astro though, it's excellent.
rocky grail
theres still widely used packages using classes for react
mossy hollow
Astro god tier
shadow helm
yeah but react also has "non-breaking" changes which make the ecosystem complete...
A challenging work environment you mean. 😁
rocky grail
tbh if i had the idea to make Ars.Guide id probably have gone for https://github.com/rust-lang/mdBook
its definitely not as pretty
but it does work
zealous zenith
ars has datagen for patchouli you can use
rocky grail
my website & blog are written with sveltekit btw, dont have any other websites though
well theres a game on my github.io page thats written with leptos, but i cant recommend that until wasm code splitting
mossy hollow
tbh if i had the idea to make Ars.Guide id probably have gone for https://github...
Astro allows me to have richer components on the client though, so I can do forms and fancy stuff like the animations
rocky grail
yeah that makes sense but im lazy as hell
rocky grail
blocks are hard
think i screwed up my tile or something because now it crashes when i place a block
ill have to continue tomorrow but i have no clue where the heck this could have happened
using /setblock gives An unexpected error occurred trying to execute that command but no further details in logs
thanks mojang
its also partially set because i can then use /data get and receive the same error
or place a block in where i set it and crash
rocky grail
didnt know that mobs could aggro on turrets
zealous zenith
lol probably on the fake player
rocky grail
i was gonna use crouched use of dominion wand to clear my prism but it appears changing strictness takes priority so i guess the only way to clear the prism is breaking it now
ill probably also add another item to remotely change the destination
rocky grail
how do i even mess up this way
shadow helm
did you register the block texture and is it actually where you expect? I remember doing a "this should work" and Bailey doing a "Your texture is in /blocks, you tell minecraft it's in /block"
shadow helm
Yeah, you need to tell the block which texture to use somehow, but it's been ages and I'm not sure where and how anymore
rocky grail
dont see anything about it in the ars repo
ah got it
needs assets/{modid}/blockstates
even though my block has no state
rocky grail
didnt know that mobs could aggro on turrets
oh creepers can also aggro them and cause your turrets to blow up
how fun
and now, the reason i wanted to make this block, automatic potions!
just realised that the pedestal is useless xd
rocky grail
looks like i failed at making the data of the block persistent
rocky grail
fixed by abusing getPersistentData()
pretty sure its abuse at least
but it works so i wont bother fixing it
azure pulsar
Is there a class in ars nouveau that allows you to cast spells on a player using the server?