#🪓valiant-conquest
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Only if he transports back.
In most Zombie Media I know the humans fight each other more than the zombies do...
Well, yeah. In our clan we always have food giveaways to build HQ for smaller players after or even during VC, because our troops consume it with two throats.
Its no problem.. food wont be eaten in this game. Your food collector might say +15k but some people get 6mil from it; correcting food consumption 1:1
Never encountered that. Eaten food is lost, I collect only what I should from sanctuary farms and rss tiles. Could you explain more about it?
Stay online and Touch the food collector after an hour or so. And look at the food number on top
Also, you dont go to sleep -> come online to -20mil food !
I don‘t because I never have that much food out in the open anyway.
Hihi
Hmm, will check it after RW tonight
And now it will be fixed, 👏🏼 👏🏼 great job
If you attack someone in your own state during valiant, do their troops go to the state infirmary?
Trying see we know they dont count as points in valiant but do troops go state are hq infermary if attacking a person in same state during event ? Anyone know
No
They go to your regular infirmary/alliance infirmary. Even if you accidentally attack someone from your own state while abroad. Learned that the hard way😞
@gentle tiger
Thank you
Why before the states in wasteland and valiant change and now we are with the same from last 4? Please change it all the times will be better and funniest. New players, new states.... you know
👏 its not a bug
How often do diamond mines spawn?
Probably because you each keep on making about the same amount of points in the matchmaking system. As long as each of your states keeps their own hub and no other you seem to be equal in strength.
30min after they are harvested
Ok thank you
Wasn’t there something said about not being able to migrate during valiant conquest?
It was during #☠nukaland
And during Wasteland Wars
Didnt know that, cool
Aww, why haven’t I found that one @fervent meteor ? Or was that in S16?
S26 bruh. 🙂 S16 was almost all empty, just hitting for the kills. 😊
Well, D‘Cay and Madame made sure that S16 was empty for everyone else😂
True 😂 i had to grind like stupid to make my kill score look good 😂
I got a bit carried away this time round... went on a bit of a mad one but I'm normally quite reserved 😊
You made your round again and again. And it looked like you kept attacking the same bases over and over, I guess you must have gotten a lot of reports of nothing...
You have to look at the big picture, by the time I come back for the second or third round, the bases that I hit originally have 200k - 400k of uncollected rss, so each base individually yields very little, but the field yields an extra 3mil food and wood. Add to that the 2 or 3 bubbles that have burst and you get the extra kills plus the occasional jackpot with 25mil steel or 10mil gas and you're laughing. I built my level 33 walls and put hq34 on to cook from this valiant, so whether or not I got a lot of reports of nothing is kind of inconsequential- I'll take 10th place in valiant and hq34 in trade for a few blanks all day long.
I agree with this guy / girl above, whats your nick ingame?
I just remember when we were paired with S19 and @fervent meteor took everything I had harvested from S19 in one hit. 😅 ahhh good times. At least I emptied my rss before I left.
😂 says the guy who took 11m wood from me in one hit
D'cay
@pine rose im sorry! 😂😂
D'cay
@light sluice
Damn, you pwned me few times really good. 😅
Haha... until you got rein... everyone was posting your coords and I was like 'nah mate, let him feed 😂
No worries. All part of the game. I think I messaged you “you realize you’re basically just using me as a conduit to farm your own state right?” 😅
I healed one march and went on with my day in a less conspicuous location. 😉
Um... put this in #✅alliances-seeking-players instead maybe?
Ok so a question about valiant, does your troops go to state infirmary if you attack within the same state, or is it only if you battle those from an outside state???
It’s only if you attack someone from another state. It doesn’t matter in which state you do it. So should you battle someone from your server while abroad: no state infirmary for you...
Thanks
Yeah you gotta be careful who you hit... i accidentally killed my ally troops once in a gathering tile abroad once 😅.
I done that on purpose 🤣
Hey question for everyone if units are wounded during valiant conquest by a member of your own state would they come back after the event as well or is it just for foriegn state battles?
No, only foreign battles.
😅 people will stop playing with us
You know they say never meet your heroes?
So true! Tito is a dìck who doesn't understand valiant lol
People complain that a Top 10 Valiant player is hitting them - and duh! You get to Top 10 by hitting people - and he gets mad with me for playing the game - what a fat farmer lol
Tito not even in Top 100 for the event, but the people he's 'protecting from me' in s34 are.
Money makes the account, but not the wally running it :joy:
Shito - consider yourself called out for being so much of a spender that you don't even play the game :joy:
Oh... Reading back... maybe just jealous that he can't buy kills 😂
@light sluice you know damn well haters gonna hate! Funny thing, at least you and Knight protect YOUR state and not helping others. It's 😎 though we love ya and know what you do best! #toothsfangirlforlife
I know i get some angry messages during Valiant, this event is made for killing and besides losing rss which btw you can well protect using the shield, you cant lose shit, so you either play the game and try to get as much points as you can, or you just die... or a mix of it, for me for sure XD
@light sluice go get them bro 😁💪
Btw its by far my favourite event 🤷♂️❤️
Like today we rallied Darth Virus from s16, taking part in such things make me laugh so hard and also gives huge satisfaction.
Lol Nice!
Mine too @fervent meteor , I was 8th when Tito McShìto decided to shadow me, ended up 14th but got my hq35 upgrade out of s34's rss, so I wave my willy at them and say booyah, so long, and thanks for all the fish 🤗
Best event by far! Blood, guts, spit and ass everywhere 👍👍👍
Mine too @fervent meteor , I was 8th when Tito McShìto decided to shadow me, ended up 14th but got my hq35 upgrade out of s34's rss, so I wave my willy at them and say booyah, so long, and thanks for all the fish 🤗
@light sluice
HQ35! Nice dude, congrats 💪💪💪
Next time you gotta hit top10 easly 😁
Hello everyone, it is going to be our first valiant conquest in our state, so I will ask for a little bit of help. I want to know if the diamond mines can be gathered even if you have a shield on, and also I want to know if there's a limit time you can spend in the enemy state. Thank you.
Yes and 4h. But you can go multiple times.
Ty, is there any cool down time
No, you just need a direct relocate every time
I thought u can't go to another state with frenzy on
Well, if you have frenzy on then yes, you need for that to cool down. But if you left a state without frenzy you can go back immediately (if you were gathering diamonds for example)
What about the rewards, is there any individual rewards or state rewards based on the points scored overall
There is state rewards and personal based on your points. Don't give away points and rss to other states by getting everyone shielded during event.
Thank you, I will keep bugging you all, I need all the dates to figure out a strategy
Before valiant when people go off which won't participate with fighting should better use 24h shield, safer. Those who don't fight can go to other states and get their points by gathering gas and diamonds.
Or other rss. Gas just gives more points.
Tiles can be hit tho
Right? So they will have to watch their tiles
As they gather
Yeah, so better be online during this event
Awesome thanks a lot for the information
Gas gives more points per unit, but gets gathered more slowly. So it’s best to farm the resource you have the highest gathering boost for. As the baseline of points per minute is the same for all resources. And ofc diamonds give more points than usual resources but are scarcer.
Dead and wounded troops comes back after event and don't have to use any rss to heal them only speeds, so don't worry about that if you fight.
Yeah, I don't gather during event but if I would, I would pick gas cuz I need it more. And 50% gathering boost works too, right?
It does as well as swift gatherer
See, so gas it is 😂
When I gather I do gas for swift gatherer and food for the rest of the time I‘m not there to look at it constantly. If I‘m on I take diamonds after diamonds... but that’s only for those weeks when I don’t feel like burning and those weeks get less and less😈
Thanks ☺️ I am really grateful you guys are willing to share some tricks...btw Qjuh , your advices about Wasteland were very good, and it helped
Glad I could help
Good to know, maybe will get you some day in valiant 😂
Well, if you see me bubbled in your state you’ll know it’s one of those weeks
Always can hit tiles tho if I'm bored 😄
If you can handle what’s in there, sure...
Tilehits don’t give any points though, so it’s really just boredom then
Or making me angry, in which case I might decide it’s not one of those weeks after all😈
Tiles give points to you tho. And well I'm fine if I get hit in valiant. I think I could handle your anger 😄
Oh, I never Said whom I‘d hit...
Will see in the future. Valiant is fun
I am beccawolf from server s14. We respectfully request whatever servers we go up against in this next event please avoid hitting an account called UJIO he is the servers #1 player. His infant child is sick with covid and hospitalized. Normally we would never ask but under the circumstances we do ask respectfully that he be ignored as he has no choice in his absence his baby is only a year old. Thank u
Same as death we try to protect our family and make sure any needs are met as much as we are able. We appreciate ur time and understanding
You‘ll go up against the same states you had for wasteland. So maybe contact their governors directly.
Thank u and yes we planned to. This was just a more general place to reach a larger audience. We are doing that tho and thank u again
@karmic bone plz send condolences to your player and best wishes for their little 1 to get better fast
I will and thank u so much
Double checking: troops that are wounded AND killed during Valiant by other servers are all returned afterwards, but if by our own server they are NOT returned after event, correct?
Correct
Cześć wszystkim, będzie to nasz pierwszy walentny podbój w naszym stanie, więc poproszę o trochę pomocy.
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Quick question are alliance buildings open to attacks from outside states during event (fort and gathering)?
hello. I understand that my question has been asked repeatedly. but it is unlikely that I will be able to find an answer to it in the huge number of messages above.
So. If the enemy attacks my squad collecting resources on the tile and wins, will they get kill points for the event? I ask because under the terms of the game, the troops on the tile can only be wounded.
Yes, points count for kills / wounded
All valiant deaths are wounded anyway in state infirmary
Are diamond mines supposed to appear for a while then all disappear from our state and not come back for a while or is that a glitch?
Did they disappear by getting emptied maybe? New ones appear at a certain time
Tbh, I don't know if it was just us emptying them or if they're on a cycle or something, so trying to determine if this is normal. No mines for first hour or so, bunch of mines, now we're back to no mines.
That’s absolutely normal. They appear every two hours I think...
Cool. thanks for answering!
Everyone feels so big when you get 340k T11 rein. Fair fight lol.
Tout le monde se sent si grand quand vous obtenez 340k t11 rein. fair fight lol.
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Thank u to everyone for ur kind words and ur well wishes. Ujios son was taken off the venitlator this morning and is breathing steady on his own. If this keeps up they will allow him home within 15 days. Thank u to everyone again and yall are a great bunch! We really appreciate u-
LOF S14
Ive been dancing around them all day
Welp I got even hit by Andrew .. Lucky me didn't have troops at that moment lol
Verda caught ne eating ice cream, only time I got hit so far. I won, so I'm not mad about it
I was watching 😄 Ainsley got to me.. Hurt real bad.
Mostly that steel he got 😭
Im glad she's on my team
I'm glad she got my rss before Andrew could have done that.
Ainsley is a beast. I had reports from when we faced them.
S29 all together stronger than s75. So was a chance to get rss after all in Andrew state .
I stayed home and cleaned up around my state. Never got hit luckily. Did make some new friends from it though! And found out who likes it rough. 😂
Lmao okey😂😂😂
I'd share the whole conversation but not appropriate for some eyes. 😂 It gave me a heck of a laugh though!
Damn, I was so ready
I don't want to get banned from here. 😂 😂 😂
Feel you 😂
That's why Jesus invented DMs
Sometimes those conversations are worth getting banned lol 😂
Hallo, kann der Gouverneur seinen Posten an einen anderen abgeben? Wenn ja, wie 😅
Hello, can the governor make his post to another? if so 😅
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Nur in den ersten 2 Stunden nach dem Sieg. Danach ist der R5 der Siegerallianz Governor für die nächsten 2 Wochen.
Danke dir
Danke dir
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Bad bot, that‘s German, not Italian...
Already excited for valiant after yesterday 😈
Who isn’t?😈
Yes, that’s what Valiant Conquest is mostly about 😈
@flat condor don't come to me during VC next week😅
I won't or I will visit you with some trucks.
Just stay here and ask away and read everything in #💡help・hints and you’ll do fine.
You can let your troops out and gimme your rss tho. Will be very appreciated. 😁
Are you kidding, I have no rss since hq29, 😂. But I would give you some, if I had 😉.
I mean.. Your alliance can help me also with rss 😂
If they are spupid enough not to shield, go for it. But we have good protections in our state, so be careful.
Same goes for you.. We have real good defense.
OK, thanks for the heads up. I will try to avoid nitty and other strong players.
Or just don't come to our state😂😂
@weary spire I'll see u on fire I suppose
This is my first valiant conquest. Any tips? And is there anywhere that shows the points you receive etc?
There is a leader board with your progress. Attacking other players is the fastest way to get points. depending on your hq/boosts, you can also go to the other state, use a shield and farm the rss tiles for points
Thank you
The diamond mines spawn at regular intervals (ie they drop a bunch of mines at once, not one now and another later) so u can help ur alliance out by posting that new ones are up and posting locations of mines u can't use once ur marches are full. That's my Valiant tip for the day.
regular intervals as in say every 10 minutes or something? or just mean the spawn throughout the day?
Every 2h
Can you immigrate during Valiant? @versed shore
This is my first Valiant. Can anyone tell me if the alliance buildings are safe? Or are they able to be attacked?
Alliance fort and towers can be attacked.
Ok so if I attack players from the other states while in my state do troops go to state infirmary or they die?
State infirmary
Thanks grizz
No problem
Can super weapon be taken
Only from your own state
Thank you
Hell yes!!!
Is event rankings the whole game or is it broke into groups
The state as a whole I believe
I'm not really sure what this event ranking means👀
That we are amazing, duh
😂
🤣🤓
You killed my sly noob talk lol
Oops 😬 🤣 please don’t burn me
I literally do that daily 🤣
Few more hours left not that far away
So for my hard work and dedication to this amazing state, I would like 15 million steel and 7 million gas please
Is this considered spam on this channel
I’m not sure....delete!!
Let's just move channels I'm not trying to get muted or banned lol
Sounds good
Thanks s51/70 for event. Especially those s70 hq22 and hq21 who made my day when so badly tried to burn me. 🌹🙈
So reading what u wrote please let me know if I got this right: if I don't want to fight but want to gain points, I can go to other states and collect res and diamonds only? Gas gives me more points but is slower to collect, is that right? But while I'm there collecting I can still be hit? - can I do this (collect point) while staying in my state, or do I have go to another to gain the point?
Thank you and sorry to ask so much to trying to understand the game better.
With gathering you can get points only in other states.
Gas gives more points, but yes it's slower to collect them. You can still be hit on tiles, so better to be online while you gathering.
Wow, thx for responding and so fast! 😁😁😁 so one more question: can I use the gathering boosters to aid in fast collecting or is it voided out?
Boosts and swift gathering talent works.
Awesome-balls - thank you so much!!!
You're welcome
Do superweapon work during this event
In your state yes in foriegn state no unless its thiers against you
Thank you
You're welcomed, Løra 😁 ... We were not really trying to burn you. There was something else behind. But it's great to hear that you had a great time and enjoyed too.
Good luck on next Valiant. I really enjoyed to talk to people from s51. They all seemed so nice and polite.
And the reason was.. So I would sit there and wait till Peewee would get to me? 😂
Pewee can get the kills alone.
I realized some people are paying attention...
Well.. looked differently when I didn't even do nothing and boom Peewee next to me.
You were better shielded, than s51. Many bases were dead.
I had bodyguards😂
BTW, good job reinforcing.
State in general or me?
Your alliance, LUZ also... We haven't really went for the smaller.
PUP too. They were very active.
But mostly shielded
DOG also defends PUP. That's why I was having fun with those smaller HQ lol.
Yes, I know that. For a protected alliance they were pretty receptive and knew what Valiant means. I wish our smaller would be so receptive and not forget to renew or put a 24h.
I'm very good with spam about shields 😂😂
So that's the secret. We'd better start telling our people right after Valiant.
I spam ours too. But still there are those that ignore all of that somehow...
Or.. Don't hold rss over cap and if you don't have shields send your troops to people with 24h shields on or fort, alliances rss mill etc
That means I'm better with my spam lol
Definately.
Nah, it probably means I‘ve got less active people😉
That’s what happens when you focus on one language only...
Good advice. People like me, might atempt to steal them.
Or maybe they blocklisted you? That could happen too 😂
But open your rss from bag and leave troops at your base if you have svs with us 🙈
Nah, those would’ve to have blacklisted all R4 and the R5 for that
Who you are against now guys? Newer states, older states?
I'm against Qjuh
And I thought we were friends, now you’re against me?🥺
Lmao. We are besties, you gonna share your rss with me and protect me Saturday
I thought that’s Nitty‘s job?
Besties and beasties😈
I wouldn't say it's his job.. But I feel good if he's doing that.
I would try to reinforce you, but it might go bad for you😝
It would definitely help me see what I have to improve more. You can protect me from riders.
Your whole dynamic is hilarious, lol. 😂 😂
I know, we are😎
To be honest, for the first time since we started participating in Valiant, I thought it will be only gathering when we have seen we are against 34 and 51... Now I think there is no base to big or too small to participate for the fun. Some of us say it's not a good Valiant if you don't run out of troops and speedups.
Which state u from?
Exactly lol. It's not good Valiant if I haven't been zeroed at least once 😂😂
S70
Are u one of the small dudes who was trying to burn me?
Zero troops, no diamonds, no Alli coin... Like running out of money to go home... after you partied to hard.
I wouldn’t heal, once my troops are dead, that’s it for me lol
If I'm out of speeds in main I go VC with farm account and Nitty by my side lmao
I am too crazy. I heal my main troops once or twice if I have speedups.
That’s you publicly telling me I’m not needed lol
Healing t5 is cheap
You weren't then with us yet. I'll try with you now when we go to @coarse ledge
You could be a good shield for the others if you go together. Low upkeep if they find food.
@weary spire I'll hunt and you gonna stay shielded, I'll send rss to you 😂
I am giving you good ideas.
Hide troops, if there is an imminent strong attacker coming...
There’s always a bigger kid in the playground lol
If you ever meet state 64, it can be a very nice learning experience, some are really good at warefare.
That's me. I'm the bigger kid 😂
Bigger than who?
The bigger kid can be stolen too, don't underestimate your opponents
Bigger than my farm 😂😂😂
I'll be a diamond miner.
Lora be careful with that guy named big jooon Leroy, he will battle with some big player and zeroed himself in no time. After that, he will say, at least I've got chicken.
Haha lol 😂 you should join @weary spire and me 🙈
Never happened lol never will. The chicken part is correct
True
He is a loyal player
About time you, webso and deadrik come join me again
And me. I'm pretty cool
Can't do that, gim would be mad 😂
Leave while he’s counting material boxes lol
He won’t notice he has so many
And diamonds
Eh that is still up for debate
Hey, you think I'm cool and I got proof, lol. 😎 🐻
Эй, ты думаешь, я в порядке и у меня есть доказательства, Лол. 😎 😎 🐻
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You got me 🤷♂️
Ask @coarse ledge, he knows 🙈
I do😎
Sooooo question; I thought you was supposed to rotate states you're against every two weeks (against the same states for valiant and wasteland). But this is the third time for my state against the same two states. Why?! 🤣
Because neither of you took another states hub and you are still close in might and SvS points
We took another states hub. And same state list is for Vailant.
Oh, Valiant Conquest is always the same state as last weeks Wasteland King. That’s on purpose, so you can have revenge😈
😂
Oh damnnnnn, yeah it's been pretty even between us! thank you for the answer! 😘
Can you lose might at Valiant conquest? Or lose it in battle and as soon as your troops heal you get all might back?
You wanna revenge what exactly? 😂
This time around that’s a tough question... I guess I might be the target of revenge rather😂
For my beautiful fighters
But only if the games messed up shield duration again...😝
Uhumuhum.. I'll totally pay you a visit. Miss ya
Good afternoon frinds
You can loose might which troops give you. Might from stats is completely different. But you get it back after Valiant or if you use speed to heal
You can lose might permanently if you’re involved in a battle with someone from your own state (even if in another state), so watch out for that
That shouldn't happen during Valiant tho...
Shouldn’t as in you should look out who you attack: yes. But it definitely happens, especially if two of you port into the middle of the same hive and you go full berserker mode in all directions.
I know.. Happened once with me lol..
Full berserker sounds good this weekend lol
почему не приходят призы за водоём? 129 регион, альянс KGB
when I move to another state during valiant conquest, is my home-state's place still reserved like in reservoir war, or will it leave space for others to relocate to?
Hi
It’ll be empty, not reserved
Will farming inside the alliance mill cause negative points for those not participating in Valiant?
Those are safe. Can't attack alliances buildings.
gathering anywhere else is probably a bad idea though, as invaders would like to kill the cars for some points?
Thank you
Those invaders wanna burn whole state down lmao
You were bubbled so i couldn’t say hi. I did find your baby hq, but left it alone
Baby Lora without tag is dead lol.
Mini Loradelic shielded just like me. Very safe.
lol
Yup, until it isn’t 😈
I'm at work. Can't risk my bubble. Later will take it off for you Qjuh
@coarse ledge you better take her up on that offer. When a pretty lady offers to take anything off for you? You accept
My wife might disagree on that😂
Lol well.... you got me there 🤷♂️
Oh jesus man never say that again... We best friends with @coarse ledge
One question. What happens after 4 hours are up after the relocation to foreign state?
You get sent back to your state
To random location in home state?
Ok thanks @cloud lodge
No problem
I always get sent back to random locations. But we also don’t leave holes in our hive, so...
I have never had that problem
It’s not a Problem to me. But I‘d rather not have other states port into my hive on my spot...
I never seen so many HQ35 come after little old me @coarse ledge
Lol I can't help you with that
I didnt join in
It was like they were all lining up for my autograph 😂😂
Hot off the press... some awesome Falkor Valiant Battle Reports from today - hit some big players. Check them out. 🔥🔥
Did you get to empty all of that undisturbed?😳
If you kill troops from someone from your own state in another state are the red dead like totally or will they go to the infirmary to be returned too?
They are dead dead.
This is stupid. What is the point of the warehouse of events like this are going to open it up
Not jealous much lol
My troops not returned from infirmary? Any ideas
Wait 10 minutes
Thanks was panicking a lot🤣🤣
Happend to me in the past too 😂
Thank you S10 and especially S16 for the kills and my most enjoyable Valiant
Thank you too, S34 was also filled with resources and kills.
S16 are awesome. 1st time ever got so much kills and rss. 😍 And S10 too of course. Yall cool.
Thank you S69 for giving us so many rss. I healed all my troops from last Wasteland, upgraded building, done research. You were really generous.
Seems like we all had great Valiant.
It was indeed. Especially because not many of them are bright enough to figure what we were doing. They hit fast, but that's about it. You were a better match at defending your state as a team when we visited you, they were mostly scared or just hit and miss... Low reinforcements, constantly underestimating their opponents. 34 and 51 left me without speedups and diamonds sooo fast.
Haha we da best lol
Glad you had fun.
I wish for someone other then s3 / 75 next time Please 🥺 people are quitting game because of me apparently and i dont like that lol
You can zero me, I won't quit cuz of that lol
They are quitting game because they don’t know how to use a shield. Not your fault mate
You can try 🤪
Congrats
Jeeez.. Grats
Only one person that I have seen has more kills than you. That’s impressive
Who? I know none yet
Ah, yeah, I‘ve come across those names several times, but never in a context where I‘d look at their kills
Usually in a “can i hide from them long enough for war frenzy to wear off” context??
No, I don’t think I ever met any of them in SvS before. More in a „nah, I‘m probably not gonna be able to beat them in arena“ kinda context
lol
I met all 3 and they are killing machines 😂 but Klossos and Squirrel arent that strong, just strongest in their states so no competition, Alex is a real big guy and he just crushes everything XD
@coarse ledge alex702 was the one I was referring to
And not me.. Mehh
@coarse ledge for some reason a bunch of people don’t come up on the global ranking for me.
What? 👀
Language barrier. Change it and you will see others in ranking.
The language my game is set at restricts who comes up? That’s stupid
You see English leaderboard
That’s my point. It’s a global leaderboard. It should show everyone
I agree
It's fine. I'm not there even ranked 😂😂
Neither am I 😞
@weary spire just change your Language to a very uncommon one and you‘ll be up there.
But that wouldn't be truth anymore
Since they don’t have Latvian as Option you can choose any you like...
They do have translation for it now tho.. They recognized my language is language too I guess
The game? Or discord?
Game. I was playing around and wrote in Latvian. And it did translate
Ah, the in-Game translator. Understood
I'll spam you later with latvian when I'll have time
150 mio kills during valiant are not enough to be top 3 ranked. 😒
Not if you’re up against Alex, Nowhere and Cuddles apparently
Quick question. In the next Valiant if people come to my state and beat me up will they be able to take my resources?
Or will it be like Reservoir Wars and Nukaland?
Valiant Conquest is all about getting resources. If they took that away there’d be a riot...
A couple of our guys asked them this question and they evaded answering it . I’ve asked a more direct version as above and am waiting a reply.
Just wondered if anyone here had an answer?
Just heard back Valiant is still an event where you can steal stuff.
In where?
One of our players has had a message from developers who say we can’t get rss in Valiant.
PnS sent an i game message about that a few days ago. But it was regarding to Reservoir War and Nuke
Ok so what is the definitive position re Valiant?
You will probably always be able to get rss from valiant or else the people are going ti riot
There hasn’t been made any changes to Vaillant
@weary spire see reply in #🔥game-general
When does this take place
@weary spire look at this. You have appeared to have ruined one of the most popular bits of your game????
Kaat is discord mod but only a player, not affiliated with 37games.
Ok apologies to him. But he should know anyway 😀
She*
I’m sure they’ll cope as gender is a social construct not a definition of the individual.
Interesting to know that you are sure about that, I know several people that suffer from this exact social construct and are having trouble coping with it... I‘d propose asking them over assuming, makes everyones day better... but this probably isn’t the right channel to discuss those topics
Exactly. It’s an ever shifting minefield. I have Asperger’s so I’m afraid the subtleties are far beyond me and I require that slack to be given to me in this area. If I’m not cut slack I just blunder around being direct and it’s chaos.
cuts slack for you I understand your struggles. I hope you can cope with it
Yep I cope.
@versed shore is there going to be an announcement about this? This is how people get rss to grow.
I would like to know the reason for the change. I can’t thing of any advantage to the new way of doing things.
@versed shore why are you taking the fun out the game? You did a survey recently. Did lots of people ask for resource taking to end in Valiant?
@weary spire can you track down someone who is available to confirm pls
@versed shore is there a reason you are FORCING people to farm their own state out of necessity when quite a few are attempting to be peaceful? Taking the RSS stealing out of the Valient Conquest event makes it pointless. There are no other rewards that make that event worth it. The phase rewards are garbage.
I mean on Facebook they specifically said nuka and res war. Not saying that's what it is but I wouldn't start freaking out yet. The customer service is trash in this game they are wrong oftentimes
I agree with @plush valley the customer service of this game has no clue about the actual game.
So have to wait till Val conquest or official word in game. Before we full out riot.
Res war and Nuka no rss is fine. Not my primary goal in either event. But rss is the primary goal in Val conquest. Not allowing the looting of rss in Val conquest is a fundamental change in the game.
If they have stopped you getting rss from vc then there will be no one playing this game anymore
This is the only fun event and if u take this one out with no rss good luck finding players and a lot of people will quit from this game for sure
Please fix this event, because its not fair when T10 , T11 but attack T9, T8, T7 . this event can be grouped like Nukaland, so big HQ can't click to smaller HQ for attacking
So.... Which one is it? Can we get rss or not? They're apparently giving conflicting information.
They ain't worth a fuck lol
Have you heard of a shield my friend? Works wonders, even against T11...
So why did you play the game? For example you're T8s player, you want to attack others like you, but while you're doing that, you get fuk by T10s or T11 player, you shield up???
You shield every event?
So what are you playing the game for???
Thats thr fun in my eyes you attack someone out of nothing there comes a t11 and the adrenalin starts kicking in you need to klick fast that are my favorite moments
You have to shield up like the guy said above 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
No because i attack but i don’t really care if i get hit in Valiant bacause the only thing i lose are rss that i most of the time steal from other players so i really don’t care and it would be boring only fighting t9
i wishes he could shield up while the fury is on 😆 😆 😆
Plus army out
I somehow think you just want somthing like nuka but only for rss? because thats what you sound like and i personally find that pretty boring
No, Nuka is different, it gives good rewards.. The older version had better rewards, now rank 1 only 13 frags, not worth
The valiant give you kills, but you can't really kill when T11 chase you 🤣 🤣 🤣
Its fuking unfair
Nuka is fair by HQ , and great fun
Attack and defence, plus kills
Resources in the older version
Now we can't get resources, thats bad and bored, lol
I hope they will fix Valiant, T10 and T11 cant attack T8s and lower
Nuka und valiant are my two favorite events so i might be based but why would you punish the bigger players just because you find it „unfair“ of course there will always be stronger players than you that’s normal so just go with your ally and not solo so you are more save than otherwise
Yes, I do. I like them both as well. But the valiant is different and harder.. Although you fight with your alliance in valiant but the big guy is so strong and your alliance cant do anything, all got burned, lol
If in valiant they grouped HQ like in Nuka, would be great and interesting, more people will be active and join, not bubble or shield
For example HQ25-29 cant attack lower HQ, HQ30-35 cant attack lower HQ
We will be safe while we are hunting
We cant attack lower HQ but we can attack higher HQ, that would be great challenge, lol
That’s not a challenge 😂 you are asking them to make sure you can’t get hit by a bigger player because you don’t have the skill to avoid the attack. You are asking for the challenge to be removed from valiant
I am a 32, if I get attacked by a 35 in their state (I know full well they exist there) then it is what it is. If you have millions of OPEN rss and aren’t shielded I don’t care what Size you are you’re an idiot and deserve to lose it. #sorrynotsorry thanks for the rss 😂
Absolutely. I feel exactly the same way.
Well, who doesn't like resources, lol. But let make it fair like Nuka, much better, because although you're very strong but you got smacked by big guy, thats sucks, lol.
Dude, I’ve been hit by full on 35s at T8s and at T9s. You get back up, heal your troops, and keep going. OR you learn to get faster at direct porting to avoid the hit. You’re removing all of the challenge by limiting who we can attack
Lol, heal your troops and keep taking the hits ? 😂😂
You dropped like over 10m or 20m might, while he dropped like 10k might, is that worth? 🤣🤣🤣
I just hope the valiant is fair like Nuka, so we will be having more fun
Limiting the groupings so players that spend more get a dead field of t11 only is not fair. Even then it’s not balanced so you can be hit. Should the game make Andrew play by himself to make it more ‘fair’??
1 attack from T11 player is very strong, you probably zeroed and he just got wounded few troops
There will always be bigger players. Limiting to groups of troop type only benefits those at the top of their troop bracket which I assume you are or you wouldn’t be asking for it. Your suggestion isn’t about making the game fair. It’s about making it easier for you at the expense of others
Its not easy lol.. As you see the groupings in Nuka also make many people screw lol
It’s pay to win. If you want it to be that you can’t be zeroed in valiant then either learn to port faster or spend more instead of suggesting changes that kill the game
Probably you are screaming when you see big monster lol
Yes they do and that’s my point. The only people it helps are those at the top of their troop bracket. Again assuming that’s you...
I am not afraid anyone alse in Nukaland
But you know the guy "Derdad" ? We fought vs his state last valiant
VC is good as it is. We play a p2w war game with enough f2p options. In VC a f2p hq20 (eg) can protect his rss from the strongest player ... only need to know how, a bit trained and not completely afk
If @rose burrow does, it will be likely the same .... that’s the game
I had Tito and Andrew in same VC I think .... still alive 🤷🏻♂️
Maybe you only bubble or shield during it so you didn't have any experience lol
No, ever get my points full ... but know, when to retreat and how
Is that you attacking and what hq level are you?
I wishes
Numbers are like t11 vs T9
I was defender
T10s
My stats over 2000%
I said if you took a hit from him, you would be naked
I still got my underwear 🤣🤣🤣
I think I would survive lol. But it’s not the point. If you can’t take the hit then don’t take it. Port before it hits. And don’t build 1.2m troops with those stats or you are setting yourself up for big losses
The game doesn’t need to change. How you play it does
State 3 I’m guessing as you mentioned Tito and Andrew in same VC
I‘m 29
Was 3,29,75 ... I think ... 2 Zenits before last
We did see us this time ... was quite expensive for me 😅
My smaller account is hq24 and its stronger than a hq29 guy
He attacked me full march and didn't walk back 🤣🤣🤣
I think you are the same
That’s not so rare at this hq lvls
That was a fun but expensive wasteland against 29 lol
For all 3 States 🙈
Have nice reports as reminder
Our fail against you 😅
@rose burrow
Ouch lol
You sound like someone that thinks they are strong against so many players that you don’t deserve to be beat by anyone bigger... and calling systemmessage a bubbler shows how much you know about the people you talk with😂
Was this a rally?
1.9 mil troop march?... No way
Yes it’s a rally. It was 29 attacking 83 hub last wasteland
Yeah it hurt for everyone this time around.
But the most fun ever, too 😂
I cannot deny that lol
Wbu?? Shield-er? 🤣🤣🤣
I burned a lot of people, I dont care anything but I just hope its gonna be better for you so you can drop your shield and go to fight back
Its so bored when you just sitting and bubbled / shielded, you cant do anything 😂😂😂
Or even you dont have relocator, or speeds up for healing troops, etc...
Every event I spent 20-30 relocators for burning.. This time would be more
Bir çok insan yaktım, hiçbir şey umrumda değil ama umarım senin için daha iyi olacağını umuyorum, böylece kalkanını düşürebilirsin ve savaşmaya git
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Ya da hatta bir relokatör yok ya da iyileştirme birlikleri vb.
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Her olay 20-30 relokator yakmak için harcadım .. bu zaman daha fazla olurdu
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Pretty sure they sneaked a fix into the patch this morning - wasn't enough in announcement to justify major update otherwise.
So, what are the mechanics for hitting alliance warehouses. I saw your picture.
How do we attack or defend alliance warehouses or is it something different?
That’s the warehouse of a sanctuary. The alliance warehouse can’t be plundered (directly). You can only remove the outpost or fort that has the warehouse in their territory and by that recycle the warehouse. The resources would then go back to their owner’s sanctuaries where they can be plundered...
There has been a certain level of mutual respect givin to each state I think after that WW, is was brutal and costly for a lot of players but this is a war game after all, no need for trolls in the state chat though whoever that was from s83
Hi all, apologies for probably repeating the question, read through the chat up and there is conflicting info if unprotected rss is plunderable or not in the end. First valiant event for me 🙂 tnx
Assume it can be looted
Utill you get in-game mail
Quick question but in valiant do troops die permanently like svs or do they come back after the event like res war?
Like res war
Sweet. Thanks
Come play us again in res war @worn steeple last time was fun
Haha nah I’m good. Got my ass kicked again last night by a dude with about 50m more might but seemingly unlimited troops
Me too really we won, but i took a beating
Quick question for valiant conquest do you need a direct relocate to invade a foreign state and another to return home?
Do you need a direct relocate to enter the phone today but after the four hours you will be transported randomly within your own state
Wtf let me try that again
Do you need a direct re-locate to enter a foreign state but you don’t need a direct relocate to go home after the four hours you’ll be ported randomly within your home state
But if you wish to go home to a specific spot you will need a Direct relocate
Ok understand your response to coming home. How about going to the foreign state, do I need a direct relocate to go?
Yea when you want to a specific location you need direct relocation
You can also go to foreign state with random relocate though
But random puts you on the outskirts and you need a direct relocate to get any where good. Even if you are just gathering nobody wanna collect 1’s and 2’s.
I found me some good tagless bases with lots of troops in them by going random today...
Это склад убежища. Склад альянса нельзя грабить (напрямую). вы можете убрать только аванпост или форпост, который имеет склад на их территории и по этому переработке склада. ресурсы затем вернутся к святилищам их владельца, где они могут быть грабеж
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Real quick question as I think I know the answer... Do all troops that are killed/injured during Valiant get returned including if someone from your own states attacks you?
That is my understanding so yes
Cool... I'll ask around in the 'general' as well just to be sure
Cool
No. If you attack your own state they don’t go to state infirmary
They die and/or go to regular infirmaries as if no event was on
No, for your own state it’s as if there’s no event
No auto heal, it costs resources to heal etc.
And dead is dead for good
So close to 1st....well Done... I'm sure you were awake for a full 24 hours. Everytime I saw you, you were either scouti g or hitting someone 🤣 great work 👍💪
Well done! We have been on the end of you coming in S26 but you have always been respectful at anytime. Congrats 🥳
Glad to see you met your goal!
I LOVE ME SOME VALIANT! By far my favorite event in the game.
So the whole thing of not getting res during VC was that real or rumor that went crazy
Rumor.
As far as I know, they only updated nukemeland and water bottle war so that you can’t get rss anymore during these events
Rumor. Else I wouldn’t have my research center lvl30.
Is lvl 30 research the only time the serum needs to be upgraded or does it need to be upgraded after that
Every leve after that
Definitely rumor
Can I have that gas, @orchid dawn
I would kill to have that much
Haha, i got about half again as much of everything later in the day. I gave half of it away to alliance friends, built my last lvl 35 unit building, and saved the rest for troop day today
The most I've ever got was this last Valiant. It was my last outing before bed and found a hive half shielded. Figured, what the hell, let's see what they got. It was insane. Between all the sanctuaries, there's was about 500m rss. Best. Day. Ever.
I‘m jealous, but not ashamed to show mine...
Thats not a terrible haul either
And yes, that’s at the end of valiant as my might shows😂
There are certainly more places i can go without too much worry that you have to tiptoe around
Yeah, I‘m the weasel, you’re the stampede 😂
Kinda surprised i didnt run into klossus or jason at all that day. Mrsbear tried to attack me once but i was able to dodge
Lucky you, she got me once. And Klossos was attacking all day to get his points, had no time to hunt other farmers...
I didnt spend hardly any time in 22, most of it was s32. But he was busy killing all of s16
Well, I killed some 32s at 16 and some 16s at 32. 🤣
Shame on u @steep solar like i said nobody likes u at 32 🤣 😜
@weary spire 😘
@steep solar 🤨😘
This conversation seems fun. 🤣
Oh god. That movie was so terrible.
Ohhh come on! Stop drama @dapper pecan I just sent a poisonous kiss to @steep solar 😋🥳😎
how you get that amount of food quickly, are your troops not hungry😯
I think you buy or exchange to get this, by the way congrats for this acheivment
He likes to burn.
😃 😃
Nope, we just burn others in Valiant Conquest and steal their food
There are ways to keep from losing food to troop upkeep
can you tell me
Just be sure to collect from your farm early on each time you log in. The consumed food gets refunded
you mean when I log in the game after sending troops to gather food and come back after all my troops come to home then my all food return by game God which is eaten by my always hunger bloody troops
No, click on the farm in your hq
what will happen if my food production is less than which consume by them
Won't matter
I got all or only production
Doesnt matter. You will see the smaller number pop up above the farm, but if you watch the number at the top left, you will see the refunded food get added
Troops won't starve
Nice Sir dagor
I would never get to keep food around otherwise lol
Mines at 4.1mil/hr
woooo
now my only 829k
I am in state 186
is it matter if I have only one farm
by the way thanku so much
I wasn't know about this
SIR DAGOR
@brisk current I only have 1 farm. Doesn't make a difference
thank you, now I have no rumor to gather food
I was thinking that it's waste of my food
Same, i only have one farm
Can I bug you 🙂 , how many of each facility do you have in your hq? I’m currently 30 going 31. So I still need lots of rss for growth. Any advice appreciated 😌
I’ve been using the food trick so I’m breaking down a few farms today ♥️
I have 1 farm, 1 lumber mill, 1 lab, 8 gas, 8 steel, 10 infirmary, 6 bootcamp
Ive had that same layout since about hq 25
Im considering tearing down a gas to build another bootcamp, but thats for a quest. Gas also doesnt produce a ton there either
I should also mention that i get the vast majority of my rss from raiding during vc
Thank yoooooou 🙂 yeah we just started facing tougher competition so more boot camps is a great idea.
More bootcamps just means uou can build your army quicker
Yeah I saw you discussing that in another thread lol
Yeah, I can imagine. We took a state hub so this most recent Waste we were paired with a much stronger server. So not sure how V will go yet for us :p
Yeah, thats a hard lesson to learn sometimes. Have to really consider the bracket it will put you into
@wise sparrow put it to us pretty good 😆
Lol, which state are you in?
170
Youngin!
Baby flex 💪🏻 lol
Hehe
He promised to be nice for V, we shall see
Thank you for your advice! Appreciate it
Anytime! Let me know when u wanna come play with the big kids 😉
We have a real nice setup here
Not quite there yet haha you don’t need a tag along screaming and running for help
It’s not the worst but guess what!!? It does not kill a 35 lol 😂
Lol leave me out of this. I'm a nice guy
We arent all 35s around here. I would say on average we see 3-5 hq35s in each war unless we happen to hit someone like s19
We have 15 or 16 on our state though, so lots of protectors
Lol no negative publicity ;p
I’d like to be a protector! One day lol ☀️
Keep going, youll get there!
I'll let you be my protector if you come to 123
You’d force me to clean toilets lol
I'll be burning a couple hq 35s if they have the balls to take down shields Saturday
114 you are in my prayers lol @modern pike
Got a couple new apex weapons and some more 8* gear I need to try out
Well I have a new tank named BigBootyJudy lol
🤣
Little choo choo that could powdered by Apple Pay lol 😂
Aint that the truth lol
Must be little 35s if they 🔥...
Big 35s can burn too, just saying
Pleeeease guuurl I'm the one who keeps these men in line they can clean the toilets @wise sparrow 🤣 🤣
Beyoncé music plays alll day in 123! Lady power 😋
Its...
Good luck everyone and don‘t forget its not a good valiant if you didn‘t get zerod at least once
I’m sure this has been asked to death but are tile hit casualties classed as kills for valiant? Just wanting to work out if points are being given away by them. Thank you!
Yes they are
If I immigrate to another state but still have troops in the state infirmary because of the event, do I lose those troops and start in the new state at my lower might or does everything reset?
You can’t migrate while the event is on
Lol that's how I go about VC 😂
Ok! Thank you Kaiser
If someone wishes to switch alliance (not states) and they have troops in the state infirmary, do they lose those troops?
Yes
No
If they are in alliance infirmary you lose them. Not state infirmary
Thank you
Hey guys, can anybody explain the war fenzy mechanic to me? A hq31 guy who attacked one of my guys in our state was back in his state 5 minutes later and attacked me. Shouldn’t he be prohibited to port back due to war frenzy?
Thanks a lot, this is good to know
Go to valiant in events and click back next to your state name to get back in war frenzy
201 регион, ищет активных игроков,мы топ 2 есть все перспективы быть топ 1,будем рады сильным игрокам,альянс [ToP],глава soldier,пишите буду только рад.
If you hit someone in your own state during Valiant, to stop other states taking the points & resources, will all killed/injured troops be returned at the end or are they gone? Thank you in advance 🙏🏼☺️
When your own state hits you, troops die and wounded ones need actual rss to heal
Okay, thank you Lora 🙂
If ur on the hunt in a different state during valiant, there’s no quick and dirty way to run when a hq35 guy from that state finds u and attacks back?
Basically recall as soon as possible and port out
And take whatever hit on the port out
Random port gonna make him auto hit you. So use direct port somewhere near there and then random.
Oh good to know
But you have to be fast tho. Usually hq35 are fast.
I heard there are also some fast HQ30 out there🤪
Where 🤔
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Very fast lol....😂
As always looking forward to a productive and fantastic VC 🤣
Same lol. Tomorrow is my planning day 😂
Don’t be too greedy
Lol
One more day....this is my favorite event of all
Just need enough for hq35 and get my t11s rolling 🤣 🤣
Where’s your other buildings at lol
Damn research center is at 32
But you’re rider?
oh shit lol yeah so am I lol. When I hit hq35 it was a shock to see research centre 35 was needed lol
I have gotten around 600mil+ in resources last 2 VC
Well I hope you get there, if it’s not the rss it’s the blueprints
Yea I know I've been hunting regular zombies to increase my output.
Stupid blueprints
I’ve done everything 35 except wall and vehicle camp. It’s nice to not worry about rss for a while
update upping HQ lvl to 40 drops tomorrow
That would be my luck 😂
Don’t say that ffs
Hq40😩 😩 😭 😭 😫 😫
Is there fixed times when the diamond mines respawn please?
Every 2hours
Thanks 👍
Pretty uneventful, unfortunately.
Amazing, got enough to upgrade my HQ nearly 2 times
I got hit yey
Lol i sadly didn’t but hey 130 was very generous paid the rest of my hq
I totally won there, got all my points from him hitting me hahah
🤣🤣🤣
I still need to find some rss tho
I sadly don’t have any for you anymore 😢
Lol but I need them
Nice hit
Now I can go to sleep peacefully
I foind guys like that was kinda awesome
Oh shit now I'm jealous
And another on with i shit you not 86mio food
That's all I need 😭
is 32 not nice to you
Oh they gave me some steel and food but not enough
Well at least something 😅
Found an entire alliance with scouts like that a few Valiants ago in S19. Best Valiant ever.
Lol, I was suicidal and got hit 3 times but still got all my pts. 🤣 🤣
is the 4hr limit for each state one invades or total?
thanks for the help
@weary spire You’re allowed up to 4 hours in an enemy state before it ports you back to your state. You can go back again for another 4 hour limit.
An entire aliance? now I am the jealous one
I got zeroed haha
I at least got one march left. So I‘m doing first strike lairs now
I got nothing apart from 5 troops for lairs 😂😂
Well, my alliance depends on me for the highest lair bracket, else I wouldn’t bother keeping more than 5 troops either
Great event again. 🥳
Congrats
I got plenty 40s no need for my small one haha
I know
Best Valiant ever lol didn't know I can die so much
Better die in Valiant, more fun than in Wasteland😂
Same for reservoir and Nukaland. If you have troops remaining at the end of the event, did you even do the event?
Lol this was an accident. 24h shield ended in 9hours so I got hit. Scary @weary spire
Nah, she‘s nice. Can’t blame her for hitting
I got a looot of rss so I get it 😂
And troops
Did she hit more than once though?
Ya because I had rss lol.
Well, so did I but still got only hit once🤷♂️ some players just hit each once and vanish again to the next hive instead of studying each report
3 times for me and would have been more but I came on and shielded fast lol
For me it was in the middle of the night, so I didn’t even notice until 4h later. Nobody else came by in that time though
Lol
Didn’t get to go out at all for VC this time around. Next time lol
I had a little fun, got more kills than rss though
Usually I have to go as soon as it starts. All the good stuff gets taken pretty quick lol
Lol I had intended to be up for the start ... apparently I turned my alarm off and don't remember doing it 😂
Same for me
😂 not me try @whole lava
I’m an 😇
Well either way one of the bears hurt me😂
Just love taps I promise
I’m sorry lol it probably was me . But I got hit just as much lol
It was you. I put 24h shield on but it ended after 9h. I was at work and got notification that I got hit. Lol lucky me put bubble on before you took all my rss 😂😂 I didn't know I can die that much
😂😂😂😂
Oh I was lucky to get a few hits on anyone . It’s like I had radar on me there. I just had all bookmarked and jumped around. Rss was what I was looking for.
And you definitely found them in me. I accidentally opened bag rss when I looked what I need for HQ 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Awe really that has got to be the worse. I think I got over 600m in food and quite a bit of steel.
I think everyone in our two states had fun though.
You was able to hit me 3 times. So you got approx 15m food/wood and my steel and gas @whole lava 😭😭 but this Valiant was really fun, nice to have those haha
I did have fun even though I used mire ports than I ever had . Being chased was the best part lol usually don’t get that.
I was just watching haha
It's true. I was there.
He got a lot of love in 32
Haha I'm sure he did
C'est vrai. J'étais là.
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Anyone know if you hit your own state during valiant if they will get their troops back?
They won’t
Thank you
She really dislikes her state people... 😂
Alex in s38 calls those oops 😂
I’m gonna oops and hit @coarse ledge some day...
activating shield
🤣 🤣
I got a question,...a nutcase is a member of a team we have a NAP with and could she be hit when VC comes? Does it not nullify the NAP in state?
I mean when she's bounce off state...
If you hit someone from your own state during Valiant, their troops do not go to state infirmary, they will die. Valiant is an event meant to fight other states players, not your own. Your in-state NAP would not be void during Valiant
So if I hit her out of state for example I'm still breaching our instate NAP
You mean if you are both in a different state during Valiant? But she's part of an alliance in your state right? Her troops will still die and your NAP is still I'm effect. We call it friendly fire. Happens sometimes and we offer rss to build back all the troops that person lost because they died. If you hit someone covered by a NAP, you are liable to be hit yourself or to get your whole alliance burned too. People get pretty upset when you break a NAP.
Again, Valiant is an event meant for your state to fight another state. It is not meant as a civil war type of event.
Thanks hun I just wanted to clarify coz it's really not me lol...someone is just itching to attack that nutcase...thanks much...
How do rankings work for VC? Is it based on rank 1,2,3 for each state, or do the alliances get rewarded separately?
Global rankings (all players from all states) as well as state rankings (combined points from all members of the state). There‘s no ranking inside your state whatsoever, so don’t work against each other.
Awesome, tysm for the response.
@coarse ledge If I want to fly my little to my big’s state can I do that up until valiant starts?
Yes
But when it starts you can’t anymore until its over
It's four hours to gather rss in the enemy state right? Is it also four hours of burning em?
It’s four hours until you get Auto ported back. Independent of what you do while there.
You can immediately go back for another 4h though.
Oh ok thanks
I did that today 😫 someone posted cords and I acted too quickly. They will have a lot of rss coming their way. I sort of decimated them.
At least you give them the rss back i know some states that would say doesn’t matter
Can you immigrate while is VC?
Do you get 100% of troops back in attacking also or only 100% back from attacks & portion in attacking?
No
You get everything back you lost in any fight with another state.
Thanks!!!
Me too
😮
Same issue here
Bug?
😣
Is back now
It‘s always 10 minutes after VC ends…
Hate lags during valiant😤 relocate and still continue attack 🤯
Direct relocate or random relocate?
Direct of course
And best was... When i have all march out... Somebody want hit me... I take my legs on shoulder and run... Again direct.... But game fu.. With me and i got complete hit... He is 35 with t11 i only t9
Because in beginning valiant i use diamond and speed-up... I pay money for this and for nothing... I write for support and ask for give me something back... But i know they sort... 😤
Can someone please explain the way the states are picked to fight? S44 came through S188 and S184 and should never have been picked - they've been around far too long to hit newer states like that
Well state 44 has been around for the longest but it’s a game so I’m not complaining I’m in 184
S44 shouldn't be that far ranging to at least make it competitive. It just meant they could run rampage around the state with their 35's especially and nothing could be done about it. Even a lvl 27 at 160mil might is a problem. It was just uneven.
There must be a better way to match states than that.
Yea I feel you
S8 VS S187 lol
Yep - it's rough
We had 186 before 44 even came like it automatically changed the state out of no where
at least you have one fair one. we are 133 and got 2 and 24 i think. riiight 🙂
Did you guys capture another hub? because the same happend to us we took a hub from others then we got 39 as enemys lol😅
Can someone confirm if there is a state infirmary during VC? I could have swore there isn't but I am being told that there is
Yes there is. All troops wounded in VC go straight to state infirmary
It's wasteland that doesn't have state infirmary. You might be confusing it with that
Quite possibly the case, thanks for clarifying!
Nobody besides devs know the exact formula, but it is certain that the number of foreign states conquered does factor in. Also keep in mind that just because its an older state, that doesn’t automatically mean that its full of 800mm hq35’s. Many older states have slowly died off and are very weak. State 17 (i think) for example was just searching for someone willing to fly into their state to deal with a hq33 bully who is only 230mm. Certainly state states in the 180 range have several players who could deal with that kind of issue.
So dont get too bogged down on the state number and assume you are getting hosed by the matchup. Bad matchups do happen from time to time, but more often they are a case where a younger state gets too greedy too quickly and starts conquering other states before they really have the manpower to be playing in that league.
Is VC one of the events where you get all your troops back at the end if they're hit by someone not in your state?
Yes.
Est-ce que l'un des événements où vous récupérez toutes vos troupes à la fin s'ils sont touchés par quelqu'un qui n'est pas dans votre état ?
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Hello - our first VC is coming up. I'm hearing that it's recommended that we start training t1 troops to gather diamonds, for the folks that aren't hunting/attacking and just living a bubble for 24 hours. Should I tell my members to start training t1 troops so we get minimal losses?
Another question! If we hit our own people in our state to protect rss, troops are real lost or fake lost (like reservoir war)?
I never heard of training t1s to gather diamonds. Gas gives you the most points in the event. If you hit your own people they are really lost. They do not go to the state infirmary.
If you clear a lvl5 food tile and a lvl5 gas tile they'll both score the same 🤷🏻♂️
It just looks different/more because of the points per 1k gathered
Diamonds give more points than gas though. And the idea behind the T1 is not about minimizing your losses but it’s about the other state getting no points for killing T1s, but you would get points from their losses should they attack you. So it’s basically a net loss to attack T1s in resource tiles for Valiant. Which is why players might not be interested in hitting your T1s. But if they do you get points and they don‘t
This is all helpful! Thank you! Will ask more questions as they come up! It's really hard to gather questions and info that's already been asked...
Do you need a direct relocater or random locator to travel to another state? Do you need one to get back?
Is there a difference between gathering diamonds in enemy state vs my own state? (Stupid question? I'm assuming it's pointless to gather in their state as it 's more unsafe?)
You get event points for gathering them like you do RSS if you go to an enemy state
However in your own state, it's safer to gather usually as you have more protection from your alliance/own state. So it's less likely your spot will get attacked, allowing you to farm lvl4-5 tiles more easily imo
It's a random relocate to move about the states👌
Does anybody have a screenshot of the point scoring for valiant?
For valiant points, do you get points from resources you obtain when you attack sanctuaries or only points from taking troops and from gathering in foreign lands?
If I'm not wrong you got points just from gathering and killing enemies troops
Ok thank you
Our state is planning a purge prior to valiant starting and I’m trying to understand pros and cons
Mmm lots of people have different arguments on this... For me the only probis you have rss from the one you purge...
Cons, you'll kill some of your troops that won't be back as they'll during valiant, and to start some drama in the state...
And lots of people know by now that every tot day you got that event, so if they got hit, is on them.
We're prepping too @wise reef, our first VC in this state. We are planning to purge so enemies can't win points from killing inactive sanc troops within our own state. It is a debate though... you kill troops in your own state, those troops die forever. If an enemy kills those troops, you get them back after VC ends...
Yeah. I guess I just don’t see why it matters if another state gets the points as long as your state can more easily recover.
But this is probably a debate that has many different views
I’d personally prefer people to be able to recover the troops instead of worrying about someone else getting points
For long term, it’s better to help your state be able to recover than it is to worry about another state getting a few extra wood
of course all that can be solved if the poeple just shield like they are supposed to 🙂
I agree that you don’t lose anything by other players in your state not shielding.
The other state gets points, yes. So?
The unshielded player loses resources, yes. So it’s in their interest to shield.
And if you want to make a point by saying that your state will get a worse placement in VC because that other state got more points from your states sanctuaries I answer: there are about 240 states doing VC. By purging you can influence the points gained by two of those 240 states. Do you really think that those points will influence your ranking more than killing your own states troops does?
I would counter argue that a productive, active player should be able to shield. Getting people in the habit of shielding regularly and knowing when to and when not to is helping your state
Exactly. Which you can perfectly do for VC itself, no need for a purge before that.
Yeah but what if people aren't able to because of an issue
Like they shouldn't be punished for an issue that is out of their control
They shouldn't be punished if they aren't able to get on to shield due to technical issues or personal issues
And today due to the update, lots of people have had issues logging in to shield
But I totally agree with@wise reef , you're just killing your state when they could get their troops back if the other state hits them.
It’s just dirty politics, like everywhere
no. Because so many people think losing resources is okey as long as they dont lose troops thats why they dont bother shielding for valiant.
Purge is important because it does a few things;
teaches people to pay attention to events and to board
gives players potential targets when there normally is none
Keeps RSS in state
Teaches people to shield
Rss is needed in state to keep us growing. Troops without stats and growth is pointless.
People dont like to pay attention to the bulliten, having evemts like this creates a culture of paying attention.
Players get complacent when always in nap, shielding becomes a chore and then never happens.
When the nap covers majority of state, growth is also slowed if you never give a chance for them to hunt. Valiant can't provide for everyone when 1000 people want to hunt.
If you think it creates a culture of paying attention instead of a culture of rage, quitting and emigration then okay… but I don’t believe it does. Did you ever take the time to talk to the people that don’t shield and try to find out why they don‘t? Because in my experience it’s not because they don’t care about lost resources. It’s mostly because they aren’t able to, just casually play the game, not know how to, don’t have the amount of diamonds needed for a 24h shield, etc.
Those things won’t change by having a purge. What will change is that your strong players get more resources and piss off all the others in state. Sure, you get more resources in the short run, but in the long run it’ll desert your state more and more by quitting or emigrating players. And once you realize that those players might be of value to the state if treated differently it might be too late.
But that’s just my view on purges, you do you…
Sadly though its rough, if you want to casually play the game then losing rss and troops is a part of the game. This game has the issue that huge stats negate so much a person has worked for. Look at your top players sending t1s at t11s and winning. So that rss needs to be spent in state to be useful. Yes uts hard because many are unable to get the needed shields or diamonds, but there is alternatives that are suggested each time. Send the rss to the warehouse, give to alliance members, self clean so it stays in alliance, send troops to structures so at least they aren't lost. The key always us to have some structure and not have a chaotic purge. It doesn't matter what you do, someone is going to be upset. Can't keep everyone happy. And with purges, usually both sides dont want to view the other side, because the game really doesn't facilitate a possible compromise. More svs events like valiant are needed to allow for rss to be more readily available.
Or devs could give more tiles, or up the amont in tiles. Teach lower lvls how to get and save diamonds, how to shield, finish all dailies since that final box has a shield. There is more to it than simply shielding. A player could be I. Hospital, or have died, or on vacation and without a connection. There are many variables: purging is not the answer at all!
Hello everyone! Can you immigrate during the Valiant Conquest?
No you cannot.
Thanks @unkempt siren
You're welcome @potent glacier
I’m curious..how will more SVS events allow for more readily available rss?
In saying more svs events, I was mostly referring to valiant. Having 3 valiant fir every wasteland would be nice. Or some type of new event, sine they took the rss out of res and nuka.
I still find it comical folks hit people for rss in nuka and res events. I guess desperation and what not 😂
Thank you for answering :).
On the contrary. Since you can’t lose any resources and all troops come back after it’s more of a hitting for fun. Not any desperation in it…
Folks that were hitting for rss in nuka and res are the epitome of desperate
I‘d call them opportunists. You have an event where you can steal resources from players from another state. So you win some without weakening your state. That’s not desperate, that’s strategic.
That's your opinion 💯
Looks like it’s not only mine🤷♂️
Eh they gotta hit for rss outside.of valiant, they are irrelevant 😂
If don't want to be burn.... Bubbles and will be bored...😋 😂
Not a good valiant if I have my troops roflmao
How long before Valiant does the purge start?
Depends on the state; some states don’t have one at all. Generally speaking, if there is going to be ones it’s the 24 hours before Valiant begins.