#๐ชvaliant-conquest
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Yes. They come back. As long as the person who hit wasn't from the same state
Okay, so no need to hestitate..thanks a lot
Just don't touch anyone from your state on other states and you will be fine
Damn Nessie ๐ฌ
More interested in that 200k diamonds
Got 500k in bag yet
Itโs always more fun if you share with friends ๐๐ผ
I'm having too much fun killing my troops I don't have much in the resource department
I put a 24 hr shield up an hour agoโฆ went out came back to find Iโd been zeroedโฆ ๐คฌ๐คฌ๐คฌ๐คฌ๐คฌ
Never start with rss, so only lost troops
Ahahaha you got them all again. Except instead of 432 it was 441.
Are you sure it was a 24 hr shield? Did you buy it with diamonds?
I have over 1200
But youโre sure you did 24 hour? I always take ss because everyone says there are shield issues. Iโve never had one in 2.5 years but I take ss anyway.
Iโve been playing for just as long, so I expect a shield to stay up
Honestly it must have dropped with in 30 minutes of me putting it up
Itโs just annoying
Itโs happened to others I know, thatโs why I start with nothing
Just wanted to have a moan๐๐
Iโve sent a message and see if captains can confirm or give any feedback on this โฆ probably wonโt be โtil next VC ๐คฆ๐ปโโ๏ธ
But if you were to switch back to the previous alliance you were in at the start of VC, are you able to continue to participate and claim the rewards?
I would have done that, butโฆ. ๐คทโโ๏ธ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
So that you can be ignored like me too? ๐คฃ
Yup!
That's quite the smack
Happened to a player in my alliance to
Hey guys. How often does Valiant come around?
Every 2 weeks.
I thought so, just wasn't sure.
Damn, 703.. didn't realize we had so many states already
Valiant doesn't start until the 3rd WK right? First two are in-state Zenith then 3rd is WK in your battle division?
Something like that
That's exactly how it works
You're going to get sick of us before too long
Also please don't burn me
@stiff zealot I was sooooo happy to be with you both yesterday. The last move we pulled against Steeler freezing everyone and taking their hub at the very end was classic. My FCB is over 400M but I had fun! ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ
Lol. I did have a lot of fun. My fast come back wasn't that high, but it was fun giving those guys a real hard time.
Lol, like we not just matched in wk yesterday ๐ did yall already miss us that much? โฃ๏ธ๐๐
Yes!
I was just in 460 but went back home to 554
I almost thought about staying thru showdown for the challenge of VC haha
But I think I got my fix from big boi VC going up against G and 405 a month ago
Lol
You should have stayed itโs going to be fun! Even I have to watch my back for this one lol
Me too๐

Hey! 
I am totally counting down the days to this weekend
Iโm heading out of town this weekend. Still waking up at stupid early oclock to VC before driving to the mountains ๐คฃ
Hello...Do you have to be in your State to enjoy feast? I want to get my Valiant Conquest on but don't want to miss my State Feast...hmmmm ๐ค
Good question. I have no idea.
God smacked by a 40 after I nommed 2 other t11s from their alliance ๐
First one zeroed 4 marches before giving up, second one gave up after the first hit.
Eating those riders for breakfast ๐
"That's a lot of damage!"
2-state vc is pretty meh.
Not bad considering I was attacking into riders. For some reason I thought this person was a shooter when I started so I was surprised I lost so many marches lol.
Attacking into 1.5m t10s.
Excuses lol
Yes, no issues
Misa Misa, how is that you were able to tank the lvl 40 so well given you only have t9 units at best. With the lvl 40 there is a clear gap in stats as opposed to the t11 players where you around the same or slightly worse statswise? newish player here so be patient.๐
Not all 40s are created equal. I tooka couple hits from a 40 today. I still have troops left.
Misa also cheats with lots and lots of taxis.
@sage escarp Hillside Hi Hillside. Ty for your response.
I wouldnโt hit you because I know the outcome lol
Your shooters would kill all my riders ๐ but im not a 40 anyways ๐
They're relatively weak statwise. They're also attacking into 14m troops with decent stats.
You could hit me right now. Iโm under 1m shooters. But also shielded while Iโm in the mountains for the weekend. ๐คฃ
You hid from me last time we met ๐ญ๐ญ
Your shooters are scary 
If a sanctuary is on fire during VC is it a done deal or can I help them somehow?
Send them reinforcements. Worth trying.
Sad when so many states that are older don't have players in them. This is mini inside top 400 overall with 14M points
Main is almost top 700 with a lot more points
Quick question.
Is the hitting of rss tiles in the green permissible during vc.
It was a question asked. I would have said no, but thought to query it
Even in the green, I would have thought mud
In all the time playing I have never heard of tiles being hit
Your thinking WK
That is WlK. VC they can land/hit anything
I know wlk, but have never come across it in vc
If there's no troops to hit I go tile hitting lol
It's actually quite common but I see it more on diamond tiles
Oh diamond tiles, tiles in the mud have always been fair game
And green during VC
Well that is a change I have not been aware of, so thank you fr the info
It's never been changed
People just don't tend to stalk the green for tile hits ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Was never a part of the game early
I've been playing since February 2021 been the same the whole time
Iโve been playing since game inception
Yea it's more a provoking measure I took on to get hit
It's never changed only WK is limited to mud
I suppose we were more polite and had more etiquette back when it first started
Maybe... I've done some funny stuff to get hits it's the only reason I know a thing or 2 ๐
The green was always a safe place for players to gather during wlk and vc, otherwise the smaller players might as well just not play at all during vc
I don't think it's a common thing. Seems like a waste to me other than as Blue said to bait someone
I wouldnโt bother, I have seen players try to race a opponent to a tile but generally only rss tile hits on the mud
I wouldn't either, but all types play the game lol
That they do.
It's mostly just a bait thing. Tiles hits are only majorly common on level 5 tiles
Of diamonds
Anyone don't get troops back after VC end?
Only if you got hit by the same state
It takes about 10-15 minutes.
Okay~ It back (delay) โค๏ธ๐น
thanks for answer. Hope you two have wonderful day ๐
Yeah, it needs a few minutes ๐ i hope yall had a nice valiant ๐ mine was fun even when i didnt went out to hunt... too many scary people out there... but i had a bodyguard ๐
@thorn palm Regarding your tanking of the lvl 40 yesterday, was there any chance of him eventually beating you?if yes, how would you calculate the number of attempts needed.Is there any sort of rule(adhoc or otherwise) to determine if you can win vs another player(maybe taking into consideration the size of your march vs the size of their army,s relative strength or whatever variables you may use)?
Stay safe out there!
With the bodyguard i had no one will be able to tease me for sure ๐๐
Hopefully they will be available when same states match again in 2 weeks ๐
I offered to be your body guard ๐น
I know puffyyyyy ๐๐
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There goes the bodyguard lol
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Ok looks like i had a few more Bodyguards during valiant 
You can borrow my shooters to keep you warm and toasty in your HQ ๐
Therefore we need to match again in valiant one day ๐
That would be a fun time...
Does anyone know what % a wall should be set to. Main troop vs others. Iโm sure someone has tested it and has the best options
And I posted here. Since we take hits in valiant.
My wall still doesn't have enough troops so hopefully somebody's got an answer for that one
I only have enough troops for maybe one set wall hit.
So I can't really test, especially when I need to hit in VC early.
I have enough but donโt pay attention ๐คท๐ปโโ๏ธ
It's also like, kinda hard to actually test, especially with t10 troop tactics. And especially during VC trying to find someone from another state to not only go somewhere secluded with you, but to not also tell their alliance they're going to be alone with someone and to hit you 
Yeah we have tested that
Willing to share ๐
I have troops. Plenty. But Iโm sure my ratio is not right ๐
Im dilly dallying. Will think about it lol
Max for wall?
At 22mil atm. Have 52mil troops to distribute
What's your wall heroes?
Have about 7.5mil cars. 7.5mil fighters. Tons of shooters. And 11Mil riders.
Pretty much good then
I have been running. Lora and Jesse. Mars. Req. Pheonix. Ephriam
Just not sure my percent of each is right
You are a rider main, correct?
Shooter main
Lovely
Rider 2nd
Solo 48 shooter. 46 rider
Took a hit this valiant from a stronger fighter. But felt I should have done better. Feeling like I may have too many shooters troops on wall
Only the twins is correct here
I'll pm you, and try it next reswar, or nuka, or valiant
Interesting. I have tried a few other set ups. But this one has done best from my tests. But not been able to run true tests.
Thanks!
Mailed ya. Check pls. Ty
Does it still empty the alliance storage when you jump states for VC
You mean the warehouse? No. Only when you leave the alliance or pull out your self
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You are not with us that time ๐๐๐
rip in pepperoni. These folks are going to get absolutely slaughtered. Even my mini is in their top 10 might record.
We are not! Obviously not strong enough to sit with the big people. ๐
So you cant protect me this time ๐ฑ
Unfortunately not! I'm sorry ๐ข
Apparently we're not good enough to protect Falla...
You are ๐ but... you should go hunting instead of protecting me 
I might actually get to this time. Instead of getting smacked 5 minutes into the event lol
Hopefully ๐ maybe i trust to also go hunt... i will think about it
I need to start collecting for some upgrades.
I need to collect to build more troops ๐
This one is ugly! Lol
So bad i am not looking ๐๐๐ฅบ๐
Iโm just gonna hang out with you all day!
Hahaha it will TT! Im hoping its wild! I heard about WK yesterday ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ
I may have to spend valiant under a bubble
How do you keep ending up in these 2-staters? Lol
Unsure. They're not the greatest.
Brand new states still get a crappy VC
PUFFFF!! I am gonna stalk you this VC. LOL
Why stock me when Iโm gonna be following next to u the whole time ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ
I loooooove @magic wave
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With @open crypt and @magic wave and of course Lyndsie my day will be complete
Ohhhh yus! Iโm excited
@magic wave I have a question
I wish every week have 2 day valiant ๐
2 days of dirty tiles? ๐ญ๐
When i have my crazy 5 minutes i let a lot unfinished tiles in opponents states during valiant... and i giggle then by thinking on how people will be bothering about them ๐ and then i feel bad and port back to finish tiles ๐๐
Such a nice girl
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You need to plan it so you only leave one or two resources on a tile
Such a bad girl
Who? Me? I'm sweet and wouldn't do that at all.... 
lol, right
I got to do something to entertain myself
This is a thing? ๐ณ
You mean to tell me you never intentionally left a few bits of resources in another state just because you felt like it?
No ๐
It can be entertaining but it's also time-consuming cuz you have to time it just right
It was how I had my fun when I was too small to go hunting
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What?
Is there a description on how Valiant Conquest works that I could send to my alliance?
Check the pins. A lot of good info there.
Description is pretty simple. Go out and hunt HQs in other states for resources and kills, stay home and bubble, or gather resources from another state and bubble. The ones that stay home and bubble should be filling empty spaces in your hive with camps. The ones going out gathering resources should keep an eye out for diamond mines.
There's personal points and alliance points. 7.5m points to make max personal rewards. I forgot what the alliance reward points are.
And PAY ATTENTION to who you are hitting. Friendly fire losses donโt come back at the end. Itโs a headache no one needs.
Or hit them. Add a little spice into your life
Or that ๐
Spice makes everything better. Who wants a bland boring life? ๐
Rude
I looked at the pins for Valiant Conquest and could not find a description explaining how Valiant Conquest works. Most of my players are new and have never done VC. I need something to copy and paste to an alliance mail with a description on what to do for the event. If there anything like that in this server?
I don't think so, but Valiant is pretty straight forward, you fly to other states to plunder and kill them, all troops wounded or killed go to a special infirmary and you get them back after the event (expect hits on players of your own state, those are normal hits and go to normal infirmary)
And if anyone is too afraid of hunting, they can get points by gathering on another state
Thank you for your response
If anyone is not actively hunting HQs they should be bubbled. Bubbles will be their best friend. Also, it takes about 10 minutes after the event ends for troops to be returned so don't panic if they don't come back immediately when VC ends.
So feel free to leave your shield down this weekend so I can say hi
Sorry, I'm a coward and will be bubbled. Feel free to stop by though
Darn
I'm kinda excited but kinda not. We're in a 1v1 against a much weaker state and neither of their two top might record players scare me.
That's great for me because I can plunder from the mud with impunity. But that's also bad because there's now a few very strong players in my state that can outmuscle me in points and kills.
Yes I am. I'm just 1 hit cannon fodder for the kind of bigs that roam my state during VC
At least we don't have 49 this week
As much as I love chatting with those people I am very glad not to be lit on fire by them
Lol. My farms are petty cowardly. I do hunt a little with one of them only for Alliance Expedition points, but my other farm is SHIELDED SHIELDED SHIELDED. ๐
My mini reinforces the unshielded players and usually gets enough personal points ๐
Oh I got to go shield my minis
I shield 2 of my minis, the rest I keep empty just for my own enjoyment of watching people scout and still attack them for no RSS or kills
I am working to empty my farms for HQ upgrades, but the fat one still has 500m open.
Actually down to only 347m. Whew!
That's about 1.2b based on load. 108,000,000+113,000,000+5(103,000,000)+20(23,200,000)
I can pop my farmโs shield in the morning if you want a handful of kills. Lol
I'm totally not worth anyone's time
5-600m worth of troops seems enticing enough.
We got 543 this weekend. Looking forward to see how my defense hold up against Warzone 
I like to hunt with everything out the bag. Makes it more consequential and exciting 
But I love VC and thankfully, I can be on all day for good fun
After getting spanked by Billy Jack the last two Valiant within a couple hours of start I'm not risking that
I've received a love tap from TT before so I'll keep everything in my bag and preferably under a bubble
@sage escarp Donโt worry about your farms, just leave them unshielded ๐
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ok this is a dumb question but in VC when i attack in other state and all they have is rss and traps why dont i get the points for it. and kills ??
If they have no units. Thereโs nothing to kill. Traps arenโt even part of the game anymore
ok ty hun
You can get points for gathering foreign rss and killing foreign enemy units
ok ty all very much makes sence
Less then one hour till valiant starts ๐
oh mah diamonds
Oh, my kills ๐
You don't have 266 for VC ๐
That would be your own kills๐
Kills are kills ๐คทโโ๏ธ๐คฃ
Diamonds are still better, I will just test defense tomorrow and that's allโบ๏ธ
Yeah, apparently I had no direct relocates in my bag. I may have burned a bunch of diamonds I needed for promoters ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
Good thing it is 12 minutes until diamond reset and I have a shield and troops ๐
I canโt log into any of my accounts today, keeps updating with white wheel wonโt allow game to launch. Result of the update? Keep fixing game but still wonโt load.
Try a vpn
When is diamond reset?
I minute after the even hours (UTC time)
Thanks
@stiff zealot & @open crypt Iโm pretty sure I have been rallied at least 20 times today ๐๐๐๐
This VC is a shyt show!!! ๐๐๐
Are there special 8k diamond mines?
No You have to gather up to 8k
I couldve sworn in the "i" when valiant is in upcoming events tab it said there were going to be random special 8k diamond mines
There are random diamond mines and you can gather up to 8k max
No single mine has 8k
I had to read your statement a few times. Lol
Lame ๐คฃ sounded like an update not same old song
Nothing changed. Just gather up to 8k.
Yes that's what I'm noticing, it sounded like there was going to be a change and it didn't. Thx
I May have been in a couple of them
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I'd apologize but it was kind of fun
Im zeroed.... so i just joined one rally, it was short before i got zeroed... and it was a rally on kuma ๐
This VC was miserable. I've never seen a new state so dead.
I'd kill to have gotten zeroed. This was from the hour and a half hunting at VC open then sitting in my hive unshielded since then.
Didn't even get so much as a scout.
For reference, I have 10m+ t9s.
They must of killed each other first
Got to have fun early on with my main then spectate some fireworks with a farm in a different state. Lol
I don't know what was up but around the mud wasn't full and there were very few people that came over to us to fight. It was so weird, even worse than the super dead old states I've had for WK before.
My valiant wasnt dead
but i was dead right after dropping my bubble
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Your mud was exciting
Thats was how i died... i joined the fun ๐
Good for you. My little guy did not.
But it was one of the funniest valiants for long time.... some nice people around to troll and joke together ๐
Gotta love battle chat
๐ค looks familiar
But I stayed out of 227
The only exciting things that happened was an accidental same-state attack that left someone down 10m troops and the attacker not being able to afford compensation (several billion food plus more), then going rogue and burning more people from the victims alliance then quitting (tentatively).
Then a bunch of other accidental same-state attacks. Like at least half a dozen that have been posted in discord.
Good lordโฆ
Why so? We had somehow a lot unshielded... like me ๐
I got my points without moving today.
But i can say... our valiants are always active and a lot exciting battles
Very active
Sounds like when the mass migration to new states happened lol sounds weird
Since I can't copy the text, I've cropped out the bad word

Apparently I can't say the s-word here ๐
I thoroughly enjoyed it!
Yay!
My valiant, was pretty good. Just under a billion points early. You guys are all awesome but it's nice to have a change now and again ๐
I kind of felt the same way
I got zeroed ๐ you wasnt there to protect me ๐
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Sad day! Not everyone is as nice as me, I warned you ๐
That's the main thing ๐ฅณ
And then someone from our state was removing the state defense alliance's outpost.
Are we in the twilight zone or something?!
Ah new states, how I don't miss the drama
Thing is, stuff like this hasn't happened in a long time. Not since the EOS finally gave up months ago.
Anyone gor problems to Get the might back after VC? I still miss 20 million might and the event is done for many hours ago
Are you sure all your hits were on sancs not from your state? Your infirmary is empty?
It is. I checked all the battle logs, and the deep healing should not be there?
I meant that i had no battle in state during VC
I can only have contact with customer service trough the game?
No, there're more ways, maybe a mod can help you with that
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Tap on 'More' (gear icon, bottom right of task bar) > Settings > Help > Contact CS
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Email: global.support@37games.com
You will need your UID, which can be found under Settings > Account
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Please be aware that CS is not available 24 hours a day. Please be patient when waiting for a response.
If you are sure that no one from your state attacked you then you need to contact CS
Hits on same state in other states might have happened, and they go to your own infirmary and deep healing. Deep healing wouldn't be there if they were out of state hits unless they were there before it started.
It can happen you attacked someone of your own state by accident in another state, or that you got attacked by someone from your own state but in another state during valiant
Check all battlelogs the state which get shown there from the opponents if some has your state shown there
Okey
I found out that it was a player who wiped 2,5 million taxi and couple of hundred thousand of R9, from the same state
Grrrrr
Did not know that player from same state, in another state during VC make you loose the might forever
Yeah, itโs really a tough situation. Now you have two choices. You can either wash your hands of it or ask for the resources to remake your troops
If only you could get sent speedups as part of compensation too
The worst part its the time and not the rss. Even Worse then that, it was from a NAP member. I will Get the rss back, But as BJ mention, its the time
And this is what times mean:
When asked: โWhatโs the biggest mistake we make in life?โ The Buddha replied, โThe biggest mistake is you think you have time..โ
Time is free but itโs priceless. You canโt own it but you can use it. You canโt keep it but you can spend it. And once itโs lost, you can never get it back.
Valiant has finished more than 8hrs ago,how is it possible a hq is stil burning?
Lots of hits
30 mins for each hit.
Damned she must had lots of rss๐thanks
You can have their butts log into the store using the otp code and buy those speed ups to credit to that account lol
Thatโs trusting too much
Will you protect me this valiant? ๐
Yes Iโll be bubbled next to u lol. Im currently in Barcelona so Iโll be on and off today ๐
Oh,wow, enjoy it ๐
You are not next to me ๐
What is going on with this all players equipment? For me they all have only 5* or doesn't have at all!!!
Lag.
Send me coords in game ill come over!
Seriously?
What is?
All players have very strange equipment. Chips, Modules and Cube are ok.
You are wright, it changed somehow.
No worries, can happen ๐ im happy i was able to help you ๐๐ผ
It was very strange, when I couldn't See their upgrades ๐
They need to stop creating new states and work on getting older states back to being competitive. Sad when my mini is already ranked for personal points and only have 3.5M points. Mini is in 42
That is normal. A lot of people simply shield and ignore VC
I go out to gather to stock up on rss for upcoming ace
One state a few weeks ago we had for VC only had 6 alliances in the state and a lot of dead accounts spread around the state
Thank the developers for that
I remember the mass flock before immigration rules changed but hillside is right some do ignore valiant. Or people are busy
It's also labor day weekend in the states some people are probably not home to play
I'm of the shield it and forget it camp usually. The last could VC I've taken a cpl out gathering and maxed personal and alliance rewards.
VC is my biggest source of kill count so when there's nobody to kill I get disappointed. Only 30m this time. Pretty crap set of states despite being a 4-way.
I hear ya
Troops lost out of state get returned to you after valiant ends?
As long as they were lost in an attack or defense against a foreign commander.
Troops lost to a state member in another state are gone forever like a regular attack.
Valient setup is bull. We face states in the 500s for wasteland with lots of bases, but get crappy low base count states it the 100s for VALIENT. The old setup needs to be restored. Or VALIENT needs to be setup so the states you actually face in wasteland you also face in VALIENT. And don't say it is, because it isn't.
Okay. It isnโt
Lol
Im pretty sure... i do like the new system of matchmaking for valiant more then the one which was with wk combined
But we faced this valiant a pretty poor state which maybe not agree on me in this fact ๐
But they are nice people and its fun to chat in battle division ๐
It's just crap when you face wasteland states that have so many people and then valient is dead
Mh, i do understand that issue... im sorry for that
My best hit of the night. T9 on T9 violence.
Bully
You must be referring to me Falla ๐ญ๐ญ๐๐
Pffff๐๐ nope puffyyy
If you want to face more populated states your state needs consecutively score high during valiant. Being first will rank you with other states that ranked first. Usually itโs with bigger states. Occasionally youโll find some states that just have a single giant who scored all the points for that state to be first but not many of those out there.
Hey guys! For fighters, do you think it's worth training t1 shooters and riders as meat shields apart from just taxis?
I wonder how effective it'd be for valiant
Not especially. I was on t1 shooters for a while then switched to t6s for the troop tactics. Then I realized I just had too many t9 shooters to even bring the t6s into my wall defense, so I killed them all off turned them into more fighters.
The best defense against riders would just be a decent amount of shooters with decent troop atk. Maybe you can have a mix of fighter and shooter heroes on the wall. I have Chae, Devana, Tomoyo, Nam and Dara since I don't use them in any of my preset formations.
Thank you for the reply! Speaking of, I don't actually understand formations very well...
I couldn't tell you what would be best since it's tough for me to test.
To follow with your point, should I then train t9 shooters in defense of riders?
I have about 2m just from training regularly plus from upgrading the t1s.
If you're not using shooters for attacks in VC then you'll always have some back to defend. Do you have a full wall so you can set defense percentages?
I only have about 1.3mil troops atm
my wall is all fighters
bout 400k t9s and 250k t8s, 500k taxis and the balance of riders and shooters (lost most of them from someone attacking me in my old state)
Oh okay. Well with that amount of troops you're going to get absolutely nuked by anyone strong enough anyway.
yeah, but forward planning ๐ฌ
I have 5% shooters on my wall, so that's 700k at 29. Again, I'm not sure how well this actually works since I can't really test.
fighter main also?
Yes.
can I ask what % riders?
0%.
do you just kill them off during wlk?
No, I have about 1m.
gotcha, thanks for the help! :))
This is what I mean by 5%.
sorry this is gonna sound noobish but where do i access that screen?
is it only because it's a full wall?
I should probably just go like 50% vehicles because I don't have have enough for a 75% defense lol. Only 8m (I'd need 10.5m minimum for 75%).
Yes, it unlock when you fill your wall.
Has anyone experimented or figured out the best method to get through a wall of taxis? I ran into someone that had 45 million of them and it made me wonder if there was a counter to the t1 meat shield.
Rally and/or be significantly stronger than them.
You'll only be able to kill as many troops as their wall holds at once though, assuming you can do that much damage.
A bad time either way
Least time consuming way is to just move on ๐
How are the groupings made for VC?
I don't think we've found that out yet I think there has been theories
It looks like it's ranked by your rank on VCs + state age. For example if your state is ranked top1-2 very often then you will also keep getting those states which takes high ranks most of time
Much appreciated!
This is certainly a thing that's happening ๐คฃ. I think we got this ๐
Go to 570
It's even worse for the other 2 lol. But not really like we'll be able to help anybody here ๐ hopefully their bubble game is strong
It'll be a fun first couple minutes anyway
You'll have some fun (612)
Ally can eat that for breakfast
But can medioker?
That I don't know ๐
We would zero ourselves fighting each other lol
That sounds boring
The difference so big. Im just 1 state away from it ๐
Exciting times ahead!
Wow..
Everyone prepared for valiant? ๐ i feel like i will be shielded for full 24h

Same-state attacks ๐ฉ
Every weekend...
Um, werent you the one encouraging and having fun with same state attacks? ๐
Maybe thinking of someone else or I was joking. Very unsure, I have poor memory.
It makes for an interesting event ๐
Might as well fight someone. Might as well be your state. Now you can have your kills
Move to an older state. Someone will hit you alright
I wasted about 13 minutes of my life making a whole tutorial with screenshots (it was basically a PowerPoint presentation) of how to take 1.5 seconds to identify they're from another state yet still deal with it every weekend ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
Well. Yellow and red. Colors kind of close
Maybe they are color blind or very very very slowโฆlikely the latter ๐๐๐
Lol I'll give them the colors bug on a hop. But I've never seen the state tags bug (not saying that don't...I just never seen it)
We impose hefty fines in our state. And a lot of rules. State state Hq hits decreased significantly
There is a bug for sure
In state attacks happen once every 5-6 vc for our state. Not even a big deal.
I'd be ok with that number
Well it depends who hits themโฆif I hit them itโs lights out ๐ซ๐ซ๐ซ
I can DM u some of our guidelines @tight sluice
Yeah. Same. There are like 5-10 people here I wouldn't end their careers. And I don't wanna do that ๐
Kuma whooped my tail today ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ
Sure
He did me in before too. Lol.
I took a lot of hits so I was proud of myself lol
Two for me. But he was also 14b at the time
Not Kuma, but almost. Ate some rallies. Had fun and still have troops for lairs
Im a little bigger now. And 40. Still would beat me in two hits lol
He hits hard
Someone from my alliance struck gold ๐
Woahhhhh
She got hit and relocated, then came back, unbubbled, and just sat there. Did a bit of swift gathering while she was emptied out. ๐คท๐ผโโ๏ธ๐
That's just great

I saw you in valiant ๐๐
This sounds boring
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I wasnt shielded 24/7
I had an okay valiant. I stayed shielded for most of it
The end was fun. Found some big bases that dropped shields towards the end. Then a frozen hq34 rider with lots of troops that I couldn't do much damage to. 4m to them and losing my whole march. Annoying.
Annoying because they had less true might than me ~.~
Decent finish too.
Had an alright plunder. Much better than the last couple VCs. I can actually pay for my next training session without tapping into my resource boxes lol.
And like I mentioned in #๐ฅgame-general, I broke 1b kills finally.
I stayed dead for most of it ๐
Fell asleep and forgot to pop on a shield last night ๐
I watched mine happen 
Can I know why my troop will dead in valiant?
By the way hi to everyone
Is it valiant infirmary have limit?
Your troops are still dead?
Did you get hit by same state?
Check your battle log if you got hit or hitted own state by accident
Yes go to the normal infirmary
Already checked that is no same state
You should double check. It still counts as in-state hit if both of you was in another state.
Yes I was...but I dunno why will be like that
The logs looked normal. How many troops are missing? Troops in state infirmary are usually returned within 25 mins after VC is over.
Yes I was login back and see same ..the might loss 4+,+++,+++
The infirmary still full
There seems to be missing reports. "Your infirmary is full" messages don't appear out of thin air.
Before I attack the DNA the report is showing 0
After I attack the DNA that have amount
Till end before of valiant I only attack the DNA
Better send those Screenshots to CS, they can have a closer look on what happend wrong
I cant find the issue actually
Hope you will find whats went wrong... missing troops isnt fun
Falla how I to find CS
Dear Commander, you seem to be in need of contacting Customer Support (CS). May I suggest one of the following options:
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Option 1 | In-Game
Tap on 'More' (gear icon, bottom right of task bar) > Settings > Help > Contact CS
Option 2 | Email
global.support@37games.com
You will need your UID, which can be found under Settings > Account
Option 3 | Facebook Messenger
@PnS.37Games
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IMPORTANT NOTES:
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**Please be patient when waiting for a response. CS is NOT available 24 hours a day. **When high volume / game-wide issues come up, replies to tickets submitted may take longer to arrive. Thanks again for your patience!
There are the ways to contact CS ๐๐
Thank you so much Falla bella
I wish you luck to figure out what wents wrong ๐๐ผ keep us updated
Maybe you shouldnt have pressed heal for those injured soldiers in the infirmaries yet....
Until we heard back from CS
Hope everything will be sorted out swiftly๐
Ok hopefully will have are good result
Will update if have any news
Yes I was no press heal..but so need do it?
Any way hope so.. waiting CS
No, I mean, I wouldnt press heal for those injured units in the infirmaries until CS replied back to us
Odd question. You have 8 notifications of troops dying. And you have 8 lairs. Weโre you over limit for troops prior to doing lairs?
Ok understand thank for the advice
Yes that is after valiant
Thatโs more likely where the deaths came from. The lairs.
How did the infirmaries have piles of injured units? The whole infirmaries came from lairs?
Itโs possible. Depends how full his infirmary was and how many troops โdiedโ or were โwoundedโ in lairs. Troops donโt physically die in lairs. They always go to infirmary. But if thatโs full then they die
Hope that makes sense
Try check Alliance Infirmary and if your personal capacity is reached there
I donโt think lairs go to alliance infirmary or deep healing. It not 100% sure
Itโs a hard math problem. Because thereโs also nova heals some too ๐๐
No. What I mean is
His infirmaries possibly have been piling up with injured units prior, during, maybe even after to VC event for them to have 7 days worth of healing
But yeah, they may not reach Alliance Infirmary yet
So hypothetically. If you infirmary cap is 100000. And you have 90000 in there. You do a lair and 50000 โdieโ or โwoundedโ. Nova heals 10000. 40000 will die.
I dont have T11 so I'm not sure what kind of lairs that make 7 days worth of healing
Itโs hypothetical. I donโt know what his lairs look like. But this is a theory why he has the exact same amount of notifications as lairs
I can't imagine that one either. The lairs I run usually only throw about 100 to 200 troops in my infirmary
And it's a pretty good theory
I've had battle reports vanish before though. So there might have been an in-state hit that nobody noticed
My thinking is, they may have previous injuries due to WK and/or lootings combined
Then piled up with their regular lairs, Dead Rising
But, maybe they dont do instahealing or stuff๐คทโโ๏ธ
But CS isnโt usually helpful in this sort of case. So good luck to them
Yes. I agree
If this happened, this'd be pretty sucks though๐ซ ๐ซ
And did they say exactly how much might they lost?
Around 40mil ish
Hmmm maybe two marches of t10. Or 1 march of t11
Looking at this, clearly his injured unirs at state infirmary had been restored after VC ended
So those inside his HQ infirmaries came from something else
Maybe there was a in state hit previously
I havent experienced my units not restored, so I kinda dont know how it looks like when error happened in restoration of VC
If there was I would expect the notification to be the same time as the hit.
And those hitters keeping it hush hush๐คญ
If no notification appeared
I would ask baniang to show the lairs and how many died. So I can think more haha
See the time stamps on them
My teammated just steamrolled one of our neighbours in VC today. Just went to pay them their apology and respect
@silent sentinel
The speedups is the hard part. Iโve seen it happen once where the attacker actually bought them speedups through the mall lol
Following your theory, Kazumi, maybe a in state hit filled his infirmary earlier, than he only realized it after the lairs, because of several notifications of infirmary full
But that'd involve sharing your account to them right?
Or maybe buying google gift cards?
The otp
I think how people do it
But letโs not talk about it. Might not be allowed lol
The OTP requires IUD too...
Wait, ID something
IUD sounds like contraception-,-
Lol
But if I were them, I'd still instaheal the heck out of those units until bearable level for WK or healing by rss
Absolutely
I used my LMNOP, but I got URAQT error messages
There was no have...the troop going to help personal infimary
Before lair the infirmary was full...but why my troop will get to infirmary...before valiant there is 50% of infirmary only..as I know valiant won't hurt the troop once you haven hit own state player
8lair around 1k
Itโs just hypothetical. It was the only theory I had. See what CS says. Youโre notifications lined up with lairs.
Ok thank you kagumi
I think you need to explain to them that your infirmary wasn't full before valiant, you didn't hit any player from your state, and suddenly your infirmary went full
They told you everything we already know.
We want to know why didnโt some of your troops not come back? And explain there was no state hit either
Can help me write down
I copy and forward
Because my English is poor I can't write for CS to understand what should i mean
โI understand everything you have explained. However I lost 40m night and there was no state to state hits and my infirmary was not full. Suddenly after valiant conquest my own infirmary was filled up and troops started dying, as shown in the videos the hits were between two different states, what will PNS and CS do for me to return my missing might and troops?โ
Thank you so much kagumi
You can write customer service in your language. Theyโre not native English speakers either.
I understand your emotions, but please don't be rude. The video that you sent is very fast and difficult to understand something. In any case, only CS can help you with this, try to explain to them in more detail and calmly what happened. Perhaps you made a mistake in something, looked at the wrong report?
Check your battle logs at ~12:00 local time
Apologies. ~14:00 local time
This is when they said your troops went to infirmary
I can't say one way or the other, but they said at ~0600 UTC (1400 your local time) you sent to another player which would have to be the same state for them to go to your infirmary/die rather than to state hospital
Ok thank for the calm
Anyway thank you too
I hope you get it figured out. Was there any attack at that time? Send that information to them
@silent sentinel
Is there an explanation on how opponents are chosen? Curious to read. Our state got paired with another 4x our size.
Best theory is based on how you ranked within your pairing last time. So if you came third in points, you will face other states third in points. There is likely some other parameters at play, but that seems to be most accurate for the majority
Must be a fluke. Seems like there should be some other criteria used. 1 bigger than all 3 combined. My state didnโt even win last event.
Lol. That is a little unbalanced ๐ซฃ
That is as bad as the first match after they changed it when we faced 227.
My advice, go and hit 570. They will be distracted and hunting in the other 3 states
Lol they're following us ๐คช
I'm considering getting my lawyer involved over this harassment
If you are paying for a lawyer, want to pay for mine too? ๐คฃ
Class action? Let's do it
Bad advice.haha ally (leader & ruler champion) usually stays put or at least did last time. Im in one of the states above too and we had 570 last time as well. Most of the power leaves but ally stayed back for a good while .
๐ค
I couldn't stay back on defense. Too many diamonds spent on defending and you miss out on all the early resources.
All I can think out of his sentence is when he said ruler and leader stay back. They can be tracked anytime (the gov)
But I agree. Never stay back
He was talking about Ally, she won WC ruler and leader rounds.
She stays back and defends the state
Oaf so I was mistaken. Thank you
go bubble for me
I always hunt first.
One VC, I sat unbubbled for 24 hours and wasnโt even hit enough to get all my points ๐ซ๐ซ๐ซ
So I stopped taking the lazy way.
I already wake up too early for WK.
Itโs definitely โgo bubbleโ for me ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ โฆ.except that one VK when I forgot to replenish my bubble after doing expedition ๐ฅ
Its a feast!
Everyone ready for valiant? ๐
Then better shield up ๐๐คญ
Hehe yep. What state are you in?
Im in 227 ๐
So i will stay shielded... we have for me tough opponents
Yikes og state.. yea I bet lotta monsters in that grouping
I flew from 689 to 448. So I'm in the same boat. Everyone here is a monster compared to me lol
Big respect to 528
Newer state hanging with the oldies
Lemme get our grouping
No one above 50 tril lololol
Yeah, but 528 is very strong by themselves ๐คญ @gilded ledge needs to protect me ๐ he used to be my bodyguard i heard ๐
We are babies compared to your grouping
You have to be a monster too
Can you post your might and true might?
Flex them weapons
That pairing is scary๐
I do need... did you see our opponents ๐ฅฒ
We burn everythingโฆ
I thought you were a noob like me
Except my falla
I keep forgetting your smaller than me๐คฃ
Guess you can't be a psn mod being a noob
Prepare to be dazzled fellas... im about to show you numbers you old timers don't see anymore
Yay ๐ฅฐ my bodyguard ๐คญ
So smol
Poor little 382 is going to be all of our punching bags lol
Yes ... I got 4 of me so its very familiar
Like 2 years ago
Lol covid
Your the size of our smallest main member
I'm the smallest in my guild by a ton
Dont worry, just follow the hints in the channels here and you will grow fast ๐ key is to hoard AP, stam potions, diamonds and to focus on VIP 14 and high level McCarty... then you get nice stuff which helps you growing
Kinda. Feb 2021 I started
Yea. I'm in 448 with mdr. They are super smart and helpful
And utilize the 8k valiant diamonds you can gather
And decide on which troop type you want to be specialized... Equal is only possibile when you plan to spend
418m
I need to build more troops one day... my total might is too close on my highest might ๐
So. Many. Troops bro
I just hit 12m troops๐คฃ
Break down for me
I made it to 4mio ๐
Or just ss your troop page
Whoop whoop
Must be glorious
Iโm hoping to be as big as u soon ๐
Pfff, dont troll me... ๐ฅฒ
Give me a sec I'll show ya under my britches ๐คฃ
Everyone knows you are like double or three time of me ๐
I didnt know
See he didnโt know ๐๐ผ
Now he knows 
๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ
I didnt even take you out to dinner yet, you saucy minx
Ok.. let's see it puff. Whip it out and show us your huge might
Ask puff for screenshot his might and highest might ๐
Most valiants go that way
Omg
Iโm small compared to TT lol
I could
๐คญ๐
Bruh
It's nothing compared to my friends in my alliance
Dude... how in the hell are you gonna upgrade all of those when you hit t12s
Lol it'll take 6 months
Who said I'm going to gq40
Wat
Im hq37 im not moving for a long time
Is there an advantage to staying t11 I don't know about?
No lol
Nuka farming?
Maxing mil 3 each step ya go
I dunno what mil 3 is but cool
20k protons per essential is all I'll say lol
It was a nightmare to finish Mil 3
That's why im not moving
I haven't even gotten there lol
It gets higher
Dude I'm stuck at the essentials it hurts lol
35000
Pufffffff cmonnn brooo whip it out... make the whole room go dark
I got Lee skin takes a hole 200 off๐คฃ
But Troop Essentials at the end is worth it
Show usssss your mighhtttt
Definitely is
Lol
I forgot I could do that
Bahaha i say the same thing when people wanna see more my stuff lol
It all adds up!
Omg
Troop chip so prettyyyt
AND your bioenhancers... ughhhhh my ocd
Feels so good
Jts why I worked so hard to get it better than nada
Lmao
For sure. If u had to choose i think ur doing the right thing knocking out MIl 3 first
Before 40
Does anyone in game have 1 Billy true might?
It took a long time for me to make that decision. I think what made the decision the most is I have a lot of research maxed out and I'm stronger than some bigger than me.
Rugged, Will and Leila
100% not gonna lie T12s add a real punch but having research done before 12s makes them that more satisfying when burning folks
As long as you not burn me ๐๐
Fighter chip not troop chip. Your fighter. Chip so pretty
Yea I'm a research fiend. Got development, fortification mil 1, mil 2 and formations maxed. So only felt right doing same with mil 3
I take care of my falla
Thanks for sharing fellas I'm out. Sleepy time. Gnite!
Iโm just finishing up scramble and will finally be done w research
Night don't die too early into valiany
Get some rest nice to meet you @wispy trail
Did you see my base? I perma shield til end then suicide unto medium base for few kills lol
Nice meeting yall too!
I collect the f outta some rss tho ๐คฃ
๐คฃ
Weakest 40 I've ever seen. Not sure how that's even possible. But juicy resources.
We have 900 empty states. In not even 1 single its fun to spend 1 Relocate. How come that no one is saying nothing about it.
wat? We don't have 900 states and most of them are active. People do complain about dead states all the time. The last 3 VCs I've had pretty dead states and have complained every time lol.
All empty now ^^ Our state's big came and wiped him out in a few hits. 5 of us spent the next 15 minutes stealing it all ๐
My biggest hit yet
Well in two weeks there will be 900 states. Most of them? And those inactive rest states? I have my account in more states and all are empty but active. Exactly 4 active alliances per state. This is nuts and makes exactly 0 fun to play. Valiant no one plays because its a complete waste of time. 2 hours until you have full points if you have 18315345 directed relocates and luck.
You sure you're playing the same game? We're up to s736.
Ohhh... our valiant is never boring ๐
I had my full points in 60 seconds ๐คทโโ๏ธ
I had mine in about 90 seconds because I couldn't find a good place in the mud 
Well yes. And you all in states up until 400?
Well then in 3 month she will probobly be in 1235 as she is rich and can pay for tickets instead of solving the problems states have
Im in 227 
Your are just making assumptions
I used to love valiant back then where not all my opponents were HQ40
That's a weird thing to say. I started in 581 a year ago and we've only gained about 150 states since then.
I started in s70 1038 days ago and just made it up to 227 ๐คญ
So how do I kill them with HQ30?
Or be quick with your fingers and avoid them or at least be able to get away only getting hit once.
I cant get Ressources by defending only.
No state is occupied by only HQ40s.
And burning hq in nuka. Lol
But How do I get Ressources in order to Build up Army strong enough to defend against HQ40. Gathering seems to nit work exactly
Ohh good old days where you was able to steal rss in nuka ๐คญ
Destroyed isnt it
Like everything else... Good old days where rewards in Feasts were still good
Made over inflation in events
Feast rewards are still good.... its stuff you get for free while others spends ๐
Good old days where you had to run in FOX questioning and was laughing about people making dumb answers
Exactly. 2 years ago this game was fun.
And feasts got nerfed because it was before limited participation and people wanted to have it open to join for everyone... so they needed to balance the change out. Also the hero frags messed up events like hero upgrade so they took them out in rewards
Except you reach maximum and then you dont get nothing. In the past there was no limit
I explained already why... they changed from limited participation to limited gifts
To balance the Player wished change out
it was such a pain spamming the button to even have a small chance to get into a feasts
and if you got in you could brag to your alliance
They didnt mess up anything, they made possible to reach upper level of those events indeed.
I dont understand people complaining about getting free stuff
They aint complaining about the free stuff in general. They complain that they only get this little amount of free stuff
Similar... its free... im happy to get it whatever ๐
its the argument that in the past we had more free rewards
but still free is free
why complain lol
@graceful stump well yeah instead of making it possible for larger amount of people to join it, they simply almost competely destroyed it.
they didnt destroy it
lol
they made it possible so more people get more rewards
There is nothing destroyed... the rewards are free and still nice... i like the glory and enhancement stuff from feasts
It pushed me a lot to grow...
Well simply because the prices are heaven high and players who did invest, were ok with it. Now they all quit. Inactive... Away... No fun...
We get the rewards for 0 USD for free. We dont pay for the gifts neither do we pay for the feasts to happen so i dont see a point in complaining about the free stuff
Its destroyed as our strong players who helped us get better rewards are now inactive. And they dont by alliance gifts, also they dont buy in feasts and also they cant help with reinforcingnand events
thats the life circle of every game
But for sure not because of feasts lol
people come and people go
But becauso of empty states and really bad updates.
if bigs dont give you enough alliance gifts. Then why dont you give your alliance gifts
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Or get a new alliance
or that lmao
Because they are not worth it?
Then, why are you complaining about other people buying? Maybe they said same thing
Then dont complain when others dont wanna spend for alliance gifts
Then search an alliance with active spenders again lol
Yeah
There are more then enough states and alliances and a lot spenders
and you dont have to be a beast to get in an good alliance
And in new alliance the problems will go away, the states will be full and from nuka on every event will make some fun? Yes please.
@midnight parrot ๐๐
i am in top 10 as a very weak t9 lmao
Ey dont delete ๐ฅฒ
So what are we doing here? Weโre trying to help you with solutions and all youโre doing is bashing everything whatโs whatโs your purpose?
I wanted to tease you ๐
You just negative today ?
nyan had a stresful week. Dont want her to get a headache bc of this too
Youโre not gonna get everything perfect like it used to be changes happen, updates happen, alliances and states change
Anyone seen this before? No marches out anywhere yet it says Iโm missing a March?
Im very weak in my state, my state is full of strong and active players, but my state is very active and we have lots of fun together... if you are unhappy with your state and alliance its not a game issue, its your personal issue and its easy to solve... gather 15 flights and find a more active state and alliance
Yeah there more then a March there
Sorry but your solutions were allready made. Change state, change alliance, change xy... Please contact the developers to do something about empty states. And stop starting new ones which will be empty in 6 months.
then go and contact them
All right, then give up on the game youโre already done
That donโt explain the March showing I still have alive not being there
do you have troops in your normal infarmy ?
the sanctuary one ?
Only 4.8k from rallies nothing in alliance infirmary or deep healing
But state infirmary or wounded troops shouldnโt show anyways in your parade grounds should they thatโs alive troops?
This first time Iโve seen this in 3 years
Is it just lag? Have you tried closing and reopening the game?
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I will check after valiant and see I reset game and that number of troops just changed to the lower number but till I get my might back I canโt tell if that March just vanished
Was probably just display lag.
i spare you from the headache please relax a bit
So why cant we speak normaly about how to fix those problems? Quitting the game wont change anything. Many have quit but there is no change.
Post your big rss finds and kills so I can live vicariously through you all
I wasnt hunting ๐
Chatting in battle chat ๐ and later i will let someone kill my troops for points
I got all my points sleeping lol
Youโve become one of my favorites lol
Im sure my state is a lot better than yours, my alliance makes the fun out of impossible things so that is absolutely no problem. The problem is that there are no enemy states where we could have fun... We make bad events playable but only if its possible. Now how can I destroy 4 alliances in a state with 3 alliances? Not possible.
What state are you in? If your state wins VC and WK, it will advance to more competitive brackets. Thereโs no shortage of action for VC in our brackets so maybe your state needs to place itself in a more competitive situation.
They just want to complain
puts post it's over the complaints of someone wanting attention
Maxed my points gathering ๐
I'll reinforce later
I would not say so, a lot states are for sure fun and nice. For me my state is the best, for you your state, doesnt mean we need to bet about whos the best since its all about what you want/what is important for you etc.
I got all my valiant points and had fun/still have fun in battle division channel. ๐
Wish you a nice weekend
Idk about him, but me personally, Iโd rather not see you as a vc opponent๐ ๐
Our once every 6 month nuka run in is scary enough
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My bodyguard ๐คญ๐
Whatever you want. Who's gonna punish you? 
Courtesy is mud only but if you can't get any there then get them somewhere else.
Burn everything

Is it really ok? I dont wanna break some unknown nap
But I can't find bases that have units left
And I figure it I hit some rss tiles ill get few kills
As long as you are not hitting your own state, burn everything you want.
I hit rss tiles with my farm often because it is weak and useless.
Iโve also hit diamond tiles to annoy people or because Iโm bored.
Good point. Pay extra attention to what state the tile is occupied by. If it has a state number it's an enemy state. If there's NO state number, that's your own statemember.
Yup. If you hit your own state member, those are perma-dead ๐ตโ๐ซ they donโt come back at the end of the event.
100% goes to regular infirmary until that's full, so chances are you won't permakill anything, but it'll be an expensive heal for both of you.
You should be fine
If someone complains, tell them to come here and talk to me ๐๐คฃ
I don't wanna make state look bad is the thing... Im assuming cuz it's a state infirm event people won't get as salty but if it was something like breaking nap or something I just wanted to double check
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You see even 528 is over 300... 300 states would be completely enough. How do you win anything if the developers keep lowering the number of players per state directly with making new states and indirectly with bad updates? It makes no sense for player (but of course it does for ticket sale).
You completey ignore the fact i told you im in 227 and my state is everything but not dead... ๐
I have an account in the mid 100s and the states not exactly dead either.
I'm in the 160s, definitely not dead
Dead states tend to be dead because 1 player or a group of players killed it not because everyone just woke up one day and decided to move to another state for absolutely no reason.
Heโs a teddy bear . . . .
I love the complaints about older states being dead. I think I surprised a few people when I was looking to fly because I said specifically I wanted an older state lol
the older states tend to use more common sense and civility, for a war game
I didn't want to go to too new of a state. Having spent a very long time playing this game I wanted a well established and fun state. I lucked out and got exactly what I was looking for
lucky is the word, too many carry "baggage" and live in fear, thereby creating their own nightmare
New players are given a chance to grow in new states. Starting them in old states to keep those trash players that ruined those states happy is a terrible idea. If states are dead, they drop out of ranks in vc and wk. No one has to worry about it them unless you've mad you're state boring and dead, ending up battling other states no one wants to be in.
My older state almost died because it had a dictator and bully as governor. And then someone with a conscience took care of the problem.
This is true. Now TT on the other hand that is the nightmare you donโt want to run into lmao
Older states donโt get pirated very often because weak pirates tend to prey on the smaller players who horde tons of rss due to the need to build their players. Older states are actually much more stable and safe places for those sick of being bullied. The arena / troop chip argument about older states is inaccurate as well. Chasing newer states for the prospect of a few troop chips for a limited time is also a flawed strategy.
The changes that they made actually allow me to get into glory each week. I found it a lot easier than it used to be
Even my mini is making it back into glory with very little effort. My arena division goes all the way back to like 580ish.
Somehow the most i like on valiant is the battle division chat ๐คญ๐
Actualy if you dont know, the players who ruined old states, they moved in new states and ruined them, and they will move again to ruin new ones. Trash players who ruined the states are only happy when there is something to ruin. Like in new states. In old states normaly stay loyal and helpful players who help new ones grow. The problem of making new states in only prolonging the problem and not solving it.
How can old players ruin new states? Only when the govs let them in or the strongest might player if there is no gov... everything else should get prevent to get ruined by old players
I thought this was a war game ๐ซข
It's not a dating app? ๐ณ
Also such old accs cant immigrate to new states due to age of account compared to age of state rule #โimmigration-info message
A lot of people play it that way

Hmmm
Just saying youโre not wrong. Lol
Lol. Seen it enough times
Pirates are a minor problem that barely exist anymore. Real issue is most states were carried be 1 or 2 alliances doing the majority of defending the state. They all tend to get tired of it and move onto another state with more strong active players, leaving behind the rest who wanted the benefits of NAPS and such and doing as little with as few players as possible. That the actual truth why there are so many dead states.
What stats do troop essentials boost exactly?
ATK and HP
Itโs some type of multiplier for troop attack and troop HP like troop dmg. I dont have the exact calculation.
Based on destroyer damage (which is the only metric with a solution so far) it's its own multiplier class ([[base dmg] + [hero tactical]] * [atk multi] * [dmg up multi] * [troop size] * [essentials]). It's actually a tiny bit better than advertised in some cases...haven't figured out why yet
Very nice rough equation
I dunno but we got paired with some beefy states too.
I can't see the might leaderboard of either of the 6xx states and we got a KOR 5xx state ๐ฉ
They got lucky ๐ฅณ
If by lucky you mean so heavily outmatched it's not worth going out sure.
Why would they want to plunder empty weak states with nothing to offer?
I always pick the biggest state and start VC there. More troops, more RSS, more fun and fire. Way better.
I know none of the states I facing this weekend I think
There's a difference between hitting a stronger state and literally having a state thats so small in comparison the top 10 wouldn't even rank in the other states top 100. Let alone the smaller hqs that won't find a target to hit.
Our first 5way VC we had 227. One of the top 5 in the game. They were 5 times our might. I got more points there than anywhere before or after.
The valiant matching system has been definitely leveling put lately
also you can gather for points too not just attacking and just rein unbubbled and get good points that way being small and weak. My t9 does it.
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I said this to someone else that said the same thing. I've never seen a state that's comprised of exclusively big HQs. There are farms. There are f2p players. There are still new players. There's always something to hit.
Matches are based on last VC placement
I always gather. It's an easy way to gain points for yourself and your alliance. My goal is always to gather that final chest!
Speaking of... @desert grail I keep forgetting, have you managed to ss the VC chest rewards yet?
I guess similar how 211 ended up in this matchup ๐ซฃ
@gilded ledge we matched up again 
No I have not most I know of the chests is 8 joy coins. I've been meaning to screenshot em but I've been busy my last few valiants
Same. Not been particularly busy, just extremely forgetful, lol. I blame lack of sleep, and the lack of sleep on meds!
I'll try to get some screenahots this weekend I think I'll have a moment to breath for once
Lol. Breathing is good! Essential even!
Hopefully one of us will remember.
That looks just as fun
Im going to bubble and hide ๐ซฃ๐๐
I'm not going to be able to sit in the mud and sleep this time ๐ญ
I might actually have to run this time.
So if you place 1st you may end up against other bigger states that placed 1st as well?
I'm not necessarily sure it works completely that way. We see the same states almost every week only one or two change each time
I liked it better when you faced the same 3 states you faced in wk
This again. Third time in a row
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Yup, giving an answer without really answering the question. In game CS ๐ฉ response at its finest!
Oh my๐ฒ
You mean how (insert every state) got this matchup against 266 ๐คฃ๐คฃ
266 usually has a lot of resources to get
I keep getting them on WK, but not Valiant
I may or may not find out 
It's going to be a rousing game of dodge the 40
I'm just imagining the lightspeed marches launched from Narnia
Definitely not a complex algorithm lol
Itโs 528, 266, 227 + 441 or 432 or 49 or a random one like 211
Thereโs like 7 states in our pool lol
You get used to it. Haven't decided which of the states I'm going to visit first
Just don't bully me 
Somehow yes ๐ซ ๐
You are with us together in the valiant? ๐