🎖ace-commander

[rancid hare]

Yes

[autumn sleet]

I thanks

[weary kayak]

Hi all, got a question concentrating training. What’s more beneficial ace points wise. Training troops Thursday or Sunday?

[fleet bobcat]

If you active have done wasteland king before you have for sunday lots of troops to build...👀 with fast comeback

[weary kayak]

Yeah but points are given on speed ups, not troops. So fast comeback will work against me.

3 hours will be 1

And rss stays the same. So with the amount of rss I got, to my logic it won’t matter, unless points per hours/minute are different

[north stone]

Fast comeback is after wasteland king, so it will help with the last day of ACE which is based on number of troop increase from training (not speed ups).

[fleet bobcat]

Sunday is might not speed up, only thursday is speed up

[weary kayak]

How much might for 1 t10?

450k t10 more points than
6ooo hours of speedups?
If 1 min: 150 points -= 54 million
450k x 80 points = 36 million

Don’t know the exact point ratio, but it will look like speedsups will get me more points

[rancid hare]

But might increase is cheaper if you use fastcome back with it

[fast flower]

My suggestion if you have troops that need to be promoted do it Thursday. Build new troops on Sunday gives the most points. This is how I do jt

[weary kayak]

I know, but i'm not in it for might, but for ace points. It seems speed-ups will get more points for ace.

[weary kayak]

Check, that's an option too.

[rancid hare]

110 points per troop for t10

Oh you asked might lol

[weary kayak]

Nope - asked for ace points.

But 110 crap, will have to take out my calc again . lol

[rancid hare]

#🎖ace-commander message

[weary kayak]

Thanks!

And - funny story
500k t10= 55M
369.600 min = 55M

so no difference

[gleaming pier]

Are you considering fast comeback on your numbers?

[fast flower]

Fast comeback makes a world of difference for points for day 7

[fleet bobcat]

I make ace thursday usually only the needed points to claim all daily stage rewards and wait for sunday with fast comeback to go full in

[weary kayak]

I got the RSS, and got speed ups. Either way, The total amount of troops wont differ (due to RSS)
i dont got the health cap.

Also, I can use daily bonus of tomorrow and friday + all boxes to go a second round on sunday

Normally i would go for sunday too, but this will be my first round of troop training t10.
200k of t9's = 9M of might. With comeback. That's not a lot.
While tomorrow i can spend 6k of hours. Meaning way more points + add-on on sunday. Maybe a couple million

ps. like the discussion tho 😉

[rancid hare]

Also state boosts. Most starts activate them after Wk for training.

[gleaming pier]

If your math says the speed ups and might have no difference, then it's better to do it with comeback, less speed ups used

[weary kayak]

I think ill go for my first full march.

This equals healing capacity to make full benefit of 300%.

[weary kayak]

It kinda does look like that. But, the bonusses gained will give a additional boost for sunday.

[violet folio]

Just wanted to reconfirm: Sunday ace day points are based off of units you make, correct? Not based on might. So wanted to confirm if you promote a lower tier troop to a higher one it would be the same as making a new batch of that higher tier, or am I wrong?

Can’t remember what the info screen says about how to get points

[glossy plank]

Promoting only gives you the point difference.

[violet folio]

Damnit!

Throws my calculations off

Thanks hillside

[violet folio]

Do you remember how many ace points we get per 1 point of might?

[glossy plank]

It isnt by might. It is by troop tier. There are some charts pinned to this channel that gives the points break out

[violet folio]

Thanks let me check those out

This may save my plan

@glossy plank I see it. Then I would still get max points for promoting

[glossy plank]

No, only the difference in points for promoting.

[violet folio]

So if I promote a t11 worth 120 points to t12 worth 150 points I would only get 30?

[glossy plank]

Correct

[violet folio]

Ok so yea my plan so screwed haha. Ok thanks a lot, appreciate it

[rancid torrent]

Day 7 is only speedups correct….or is might counted?

[rancid hare]

Just might.

[rancid torrent]

Thank you!

[lament plover]

Anyone have a breakdown for prepping for get week? I don't see it as an 'event'

[fast flower]

The week opposite of ace? If so #🗓regular-events has calendars in the pins. But ace week check the pins here

[lament plover]

Yeah, was looking more for like a 'save these items to prep for this day' like everyone has for ace.. no get week love! Will have to make one it seems. Thanks though!

[fast flower]

Top message in the pins. Falla made one.

[lament plover]

Yes! Something exactly like that - for get week ❤️

[lusty stone]

Monday is speedup right, not might up?
If i finish a 48-hour research, will I get credit for all 48 hours, regardless of how many hours were done on that day? Or do the speedups need to be done on that day?

Basically I'm asking if I should time an upgrade to finish then or does it not matter?

[rancid hare]

Plan it to finish that day.

Based on might up

[lusty stone]

Oh, okay. (I should've checked the pins again, didn't see the one with the point requirements.

[sharp wraith]

Does promoting troops count for points on training day?

[coarse hornet]

Speedups used always count on speedup day but for Day 7, you only get the difference between each tier. For example, promoting a T8 to T9, you only get 15 points per unit.

[sharp wraith]

Okay, thank you!!

[oblique mural]

Remind me tomorrow is speed ups & Sunday Might…asking for a friend 😂

[fleet bobcat]

Here is the copy and paste version for ace commander, feel free to copy and paste it everywhere you need it for 👀

[fast flower]

Day 2 is might Day 4 is speedups and Day 7 is might again. Day 4 seems to trick people about Day 2 alot

[oblique mural]

Cooking HQ38…. Couldn’t remember if it was might tomorrow 🤔

[fast flower]

Read above 😂

[oblique mural]

Too much yesterday

[toxic shale]

Ace event day vise list

[fast flower]

I may or may not of just got 27m points on just day 2 of ace

[rancid hare]

Good job!

[unkempt scaffold]

Danke. Ist sehr hilfreich. Ist es erwünscht, dass die Sachen übersetzt werden?

Also z.B. die Tipps etc., was angepinnt ist..

[fast flower]

I lied

[analog compass]

I hate day 2

[fast flower]

I usually suck on day 2 but I finished formation and have mil 2 back on researching. My score is based off 3 level 10s😂

[analog compass]

Nice

After finishing military 2 My score on this day has been abysmal

[fast flower]

Yeah I'm scared for the day I run out of mil 2 lol that's the same day I go to hq36😂

[split barn]

Does anyone have an infographic for the current version of ace commander showing how points are awarded i.e. day 2 is 7 points for each might in building or tech. Trying to either make or reuse an existing infographic. Thank you very much

[rancid hare]

#🎖ace-commander message

[split barn]

Thanks again @rancid hare you helped me twice today!

[lusty stone]

Samesies. I used about 4k hours of research speedups and only got about 5m points lol. Formation research is sooooooo inefficient.

[toxic linden]

Hey, stamina stacking for ace ... Is there a chart that shows max stamina depending on lair cost? IE; with cost reduction someone spends say 35 instead of 40 stamina and have 5 marches. What's the math or formula for how high someone can stack?

If this isn't the right thread point me elsewhere ^.^ i thank the community.

[fast flower]

So for me my lairs cost 30. 120 + (30×5) so I can stam stack 270 stam

Just do the same with how much you lair costs 🙂

[toxic linden]

Brilliant thank you!

[blissful ledge]

Break down McCarty at the end for a bonus

[fast flower]

Yes. I do this if I don't have a bunch of stam pills in my bag. I tend to forget to put him back together

[gleaming pier]

lol, same, twice I reseted him and twice I forgot to build him back, never again 😂

[fast flower]

That's why I just stam stack as is now. I'll take the 270 better than just 120🤣

And balance tree is amazing as well to regen so I'll use that combo

[summer elk]

Hi guys, do you know if the modifyers and locks in saturday’s ace give the same points as the normal ranking in other events or is it higher?

[fast flower]

I'm pretty sure it's the same. But I may be really wrong.

[summer elk]

Disappointing, thanks

[fast flower]

Nope looked at screenshots. Locks should have a different point amount than the modifiers

[viral moat]

locks give the highest point per unit

[shy blaze]

But if u open from box I think its the same

Open 10 modifier or 1 lock

[fast flower]

Gear lock is 30k where as modifiers are 3k

So getting materials out of modifier boxes give the same points whether you pick the 1 gear lock or 10 modifiers.

So you are correct I've never looked at that till now

[manic ivy]

Ace this coming week correct ?

[fast flower]

Aces ends 30 minutes before next reset

[manic ivy]

Dang new year messing up meant showdown lol

[lusty stone]

Spent like almost 1k hours of speedups on finishing all my non-formation research and it only got me like 5.5m points ~.~ Not even enough for last tier rewards. Still had to train like 5k t9s 😂

Which means all my buildings are done, all my research except formations is done... can't ever do build or research break loose.
Until I go to hq30 which I don't really plan on yet.

[rocky vault]

Even an hq upgrade doesn’t complete ace build day!

[forest gull]

How much points is enaugh for 1%?

[fast flower]

Probably pushing 100m points. I'm pushing 1 last research which will put me at 90m points.

[forest gull]

Ok.. Thank will save those speedaps that have for next one. In this don't have chanse 😉

[sacred seal]

62M is 2.6% right now

[violet barn]

whats 0.5% right now?

[analog compass]

If it's anything like the last few close to 135m - 150m

[violet barn]

jesus, im happy staying at top 1 then

[analog compass]

How have you been doing?

[violet barn]

doing good, moved to a new state and trying to max out on hq 32..

how are you?

[analog compass]

Directing us to #🎯off-topic-chat lol. But otherwise good

[wary lodge]

Is this point breakdown still accurate?

[glossy plank]

Yes

[wary lodge]

Thanks

[sand root]

For Saturdays event for Ace.. recruitment… is it simply redeeming your coins or do you have to get a 5 star, 4 star or 2-3 star hero to earn the points?

[glossy plank]

Just points for redeeming the coins. See the chart pinned here for the exact points obtained per coin

[median temple]

Any one have the schedule for ace

[coarse hornet]

Check the pins. (Assuming you're not from a brand new state. Those states do regular Ace and not Global Ace, which all the pins reference.)

[median temple]

Lol where do I find pins

[rancid hare]

Yum cookiecrisp

[tough brook]

Why do I have a phase rank of 18% but an overall rank of 33% when we are in phase 1. It seems like the two should be equivalent on day 1 and begin to diverge in the 2nd phase.

[fast flower]

300k vs 1m different rank requirements

[gleaming pier]

The phase rank considers players with at least 300k points, but the overall only considers those with at least 1m points

[fast flower]

Discord just deleted most my sentence lol nothing to see there lol

[tough brook]

Thanks - that makes total sense! Denominator change had to be the answer and now I know why.

[fast flower]

It's a common thing people miss

[lusty stone]

Do I just have to give up on day when all my buildings are done? Only research I have left is formations and it'd take 1500-2000 hours to get the last tier of phaserewards.

[analog compass]

I usually miss today. I'll get as far as I can and then I focus on scoring more points another day

[faint furnace]

My Military II is done where I scored all my points with 9/10 and 10/10 researches.

[analog compass]

I ran out of military ii a long while back

[wicked burrow]

Reset in 39 minutes. Next event is...?

[glossy plank]

Pinned to this channel

[mental nest]

Is there any reason to not take a zero on Soldier Trainer day? Every speedup I use today will net me fewer points than if I use that same speedup on Sunday.

[analog compass]

I usually do the bare minimum on research and build day so if you think you can make it up another day you can skip pretty easy

Today is one of my makeup days

[coarse hornet]

I usually use today to build up my T1 collection.

[analog compass]

Every day is a t1 day unless there's an event

[mental nest]

It's not so much about skipping it and making it up later. It seems to me that participating today is actively detrimental, unless my math is wrong. I guess it might make sense if my training speed were less, but as it is now, I get 150 points per minute of speedup if I use it today, compared to a little over 170 points if I use it on Sunday.

[coarse hornet]

Not for me. I do a full T9 training for each camp daily.

[analog compass]

At this point I only do the full training for my main. Everybody else is t1

But I also have at least three marches of each

And 7 of my main

[coarse hornet]

I probably have more off troops than I need but I figured I'm swimming in rss (since I'm camped at 29) so why not?

[analog compass]

Makes sense to me.

And more troops means more of a defense if somebody hits you

[glossy plank]

I look at it the same way. Unless I get a BL overlap, or an Alliance Showdown quest, or some other strongly compelling reason, I skip day 4 entirely. With my training rates, I get 30% more points per rss/hour on the last day, and way more than that when fastcomeback is factored in

[glossy plank]

I only do a full camp of shooters and riders. I do 250 fighters and 250 cars only, except during BL days when I’ll full camp of fighters and cars too only for easy of BL completion.

[coarse hornet]

Just got McCarty to +8 so I can train a bit faster now. I might actually hit my wall limit at some point!

[glossy plank]

Nice! Mine is almost +7. I haven’t put much focus to him in a long time. I’m at 425/500 for Fox, then I’ll start using my cards on mccarty again

[jovial kernel]

Complete rewards and call it a day lol.

[wind cradle]

I only complete the phase because I want the 50 proton accelerators 😂

[lusty stone]

It's only 111 hours to complete so I do it for the rewards. And if there's a break loose, even better

[fast flower]

That's why I have so many protons lol

[carmine pine]

I'm a HQ28 with T9s, what's the best troops to make a bunch of for defense? I currently have 5 marches of my main, and 2 of each off troop. I have 720k taxis is it best to train t1 fighters, shooters, and riders instead for defense?

[gleaming pier]

What's your main?

[silk nebula]

You don't have enough heros of your main for 5 marches though...

[carmine pine]

Fighters

[carmine pine]

I don't, however my top 4 marches with any heroes are my main and my 5th is only 500k might lower than my strongest off troop march

[gleaming pier]

Well, you can have any of the other types t1s as your meat shield, I would recommend shooters and cars to help against riders

[gleaming pier]

You also don't need to send all 5 marchs at once

[carmine pine]

Okay, thank you!

[carmine pine]

Right! And if I hit someone with a bunch of troops they swallow my March and I can resend my strongest march a couple more times to wear them down if needed. Especially since I still only have t9s

[coarse hornet]

You can't have too many main troops. Especially for Nuka and other events where you don't lose them. I have 17 marches of my main right now and I'm constantly making more.

[fast flower]

It's still good to have many marches of your main. This helps you be able to rapid fire out troops in pvp settings. I have 2.4m shooters and it's great to have that many

[analog compass]

I have over 3m of my main troop at this point. Useful in clash and res war

[regal heron]

17 marches? 😳

[analog compass]

And I thought my 7 and 1/2 were impressive

[fast flower]

I have 8 for now

[regal heron]

I have 7. ish. depending on how soon after WK you ask me 😂

[analog compass]

That is a good one. We'll have to see where I'm at tomorrow

[glossy plank]

I’m at 16.5 marches of main troops for now. Will be lower in 24 hours for sure

[analog compass]

I think you're worse about killing your troops than I am

[fast flower]

My troop size will be raising so those 7 marches I have will change crazily lol

Also tm I will probably die a bit as well

[coarse hornet]

It's easier when you only have a 288k match size. 😁

[paper locust]

Hello beautiful people. Wish all good look in WK. Lol.

[lusty stone]

Anyone know about how many points needed for 20% total rank?

[fleet bobcat]

I havent done a lot this ace, just rebuild my troops now after wk... im at the moment in 11,94% total rank with 21mio points... but i guess a few more points will be needed to stay in total 20% ranking

[lusty stone]

That's comforting. I think I'll be at about 30m points after I do some training.

[fleet bobcat]

Im in fast comeback at 7mio of around 23mio 😅 i dont think i will build that all 🫣🤣

[lusty stone]

I managed a whopping 350k fast comeback. I occupied a tower and fell asleep. We've had the same states every time so far and we always nap, so I only get points from people hitting my tower lol.

[fleet bobcat]

Oh wow 🤣 i dont have enough troops to manage that amount of fast comeback i guess 🤣

[lusty stone]

350k (350,000), not 350m lol. One full set of troops was enough to max it out lol

[fleet bobcat]

Oh my mistake 🤣 im before my first coffee still

[fast flower]

When I sit at 25m to 30m I usually hit this percent But ace is always changing so idk anymore I went hard on the last 2 so my brain won't know till afterwards lol

[craggy galleon]

I have 40mil points atm and am sitting just below the Top 5% bracket. 30m should comfortably hold Top 20%

[forest gull]

Question for experts...Will I be lucky this time ?😉

[rancid hare]

Go higher

I think you will ended up closer to 1.5% or 2%

[forest gull]

Probably...no more speedaps 😭

@rancid hare can you do Magic? To end Ace right now?😂

[rancid hare]

Lol

[forest gull]

😂😂😂

[paper locust]

With 150M poit you take 0.5

Usualy ppl take tha ace with 150M point's-160M

[forest gull]

Hope to stay on 1

[paper locust]

This ACE i well bee happy even in 75% .I wait to have 10k speed 60 min and more speed lol I have the boost for training troops with 10k more, I would like to shoot hard, maybe I can reach 3 in the classification, so I'm doing well to wait 🤣

[forest gull]

Yaeh...good idea to use training troops 10k from Wasteland...im still faaar away from this . My max til now was 3%

[paper locust]

If you are patient and collect speeds, etc. you can always be in the top 1%, but prepare before it starts

[coarse hornet]

I think 30M will be closer to 10% than 20%. I think 33M was enough for 10% not too long ago.

[fast flower]

Yes you are correct. I just checked I'm at 30m ish points and I'm in top 10 percent for now or what it was last I looked

[lusty stone]

Thanks for the discussion yall. Just need to get a minimum of 10 cards from this ace, atropos was just released for us lol.

I should be on track for that

[coarse hornet]

Looks like 21-ish million is good enough for 20%

[forest gull]

Ovde 120 mil not enough for 1% 😭

[paper locust]

Oh... sorry to hear that..

[forest gull]

Disaster 😭😭😭

Last 10 min was craizy...

[paper locust]

I know have yuu filled it happend a lot time even mine..

[forest gull]

For next time will need to prepade a lot more speedaps...so next Ace wont be on high lvl 😉

[rancid hare]

Finally wali +5

[paper locust]

Is there a way to time the alliance mills? Like what day do i need to put it up to make it that it ends like right after reset on ace gathering day?

[fast flower]

You'll have to watch your alliance and determine that since everyone's gathering speed is different. Most I've heard reset on Fridays so far tho

[rocky vault]

We have a very active alliance who uses the mill constantly. Our r4 recycle it about 2-5;hours before reset Friday so we’ll have a nearly full, or completely full, haul around reset Sunday.
Very good question which I’ve never seen here before 😁

[paper locust]

Which mill do you use or is it the same no matter the mill

[rocky vault]

Steel gathers fastest, gas slowest. I don’t know about food and wood though.
With personal gathering boosts, state gathering boost, and alliance tech boost it goes fast.
The tech gathering does affect mill gathering. We recall just after reset and resend so the tech boost will take effect. Just make sure everyone is within hive territory before it’s turned on. If anyone is in nuka, they won’t get it as they are technically not within the hive.

[fast flower]

That's why we set off the alliamce skill 5 minutes before reset

[rocky vault]

We can do it at reset since most allies are British, therefore asleep, lol, for one alliance.
Another turns it in a couple of hours before since it’s a truly international alliance.
The third, I don’t know when they start it, lol, I’ve never paid attention to the time stamp.

[glossy plank]

Gathering rates are based on individual stats. Everyone in our alliance has faster gas than steel gathering rates.

[blissful ledge]

IMO the Food mill is the best. Helps a ton to be able to gather millions of food to assist with building troops or help heal troops from wasteland king.

[paper locust]

I was planning to do it right at reset on ace but people.expressed they wanted to have their gathered come home right at ace beginning instead

[rocky vault]

Good plan. It definitely helps with gathering day numbers.

[rocky vault]

Thanks. I guess my has gathering numbers aren’t high enough yet.
Out of curiosity, what is your gathering time on a level 5? Mines about 53 mins.

[coarse hornet]

Here are mine. I stopped upgrading Nova Gather and switched to Training, Miraculous Recovery, and Troop Dmg Down. Also can't upgrade Econ Research anymore since I'm squatting at HQ29.

[rocky vault]

Thanks. Is that self made?

[lusty stone]

With level 20 gas and steel gather, maxed economy research, and low-moderate alliance gathering research, my gas and steel gathering are only a few minutes faster than that.

Didn't mean to ping on reply, just giving additional input.

And it's perfect because it let's me keep on a 2-hour cycle of sniping level 7 tiles.

[coarse hornet]

Yeah, it's just part of a big PNS spreadsheet that I use to keep track of certain things. I'll go back to increasing Nova gather rates once I finished maxing Training, Miraculous Surival, and maybe Building/Researching. But for now I'm OK with those rates since it's under the 2-hour per level 7 tile as Misa-Misa mentioned.

I'm always in 1% gather tier in Ace Gather Day as well.

[rocky vault]

Thanks. I’m going to have to do something similar, lol. I lose track of time &/or working as well, which doesn’t help.

[rocky vault]

Tell us your tricks! 🙏

[coarse hornet]

No tricks. Just be sure to use State Gather Boost, Alliance Gather Boost, 50% Personal Gather Boost, and then login a lot to gather.

And of course squat in Alliance rss spot for at least a day.

[rocky vault]

And swift gather! Lol

[boreal tapir]

Most Commander weeks end up around top .5% is 160mil points and up (on average) that I have experienced

[austere ginkgo]

hi all, are heroes like Marshall, Bard, Barbie and Doc Gray needed when you gather or do their bonuses only apply when they go out to gather? thanks

[fast flower]

Don't need em in your lineup for gathering

[austere ginkgo]

Thanks

[fast flower]

No problem 😊

[deep badge]

Does anyone have a chart on the ace stages?

[fleet bobcat]

In the pins you will find a lot nice stuff about ace commander (from schedules, over hints till to a points breakdown)

[austere ginkgo]

Is there a step or day in global ace commander where enhancing heroes with fragments helps to gain points?

[rain raven]

#🎖ace-commander message

look here it is pinned in detail 🙂

[cerulean meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/gather-assemble-meet-huddle-unite-gif-15683391

[analog compass]

Enhancing doesn't give you points for anything. Just getting the frags

[atomic belfry]

Anyone know the latest Ace commander schedule?

[fast flower]

Pins unless your in a new state then that goes based off the old and different heros

[atomic belfry]

Ok, been trying to find the pins, but having a hard time. 😫

[fast flower]

If on mobile swipe to the left and it'll look like a push pin and says pins.

It's in that area circled

[ebon linden]

If youre on Android, you can press the entire top section to get to it

[fast flower]

That's what I posted above lol

[ebon linden]

Damn my eyes this morning

[fast flower]

🤣😂

[ebon linden]

Thank god my ss is not almost identical to yours 🥴

[fast flower]

I got fat fingers and an android so I know that trick too I prefer the sliding lol

[ebon linden]

But I managed to post it more than three hours after yours, that's also some kind of accomplisment

[mild latch]

What is this chat called ,,ace-commander" for comrade

[rancid hare]

The event ace commander. It’s every other week.

[safe parcel]

Is the information correct in the pinned ACE schedule? Not to be rude but so many spelling errors and the event names are called differently than I have seen before. The information seems correct just not sure if the order of events are correct. Please forgive my scrutiny, but I want to make sure to post the correct information to my fellow alliance members.

[analog compass]

It is correct. And it was also written by somebody who English is not their first language. So please be patient.

And I can confirm that the order of events are correct

Also keep in mind that Monday for events is Sunday reset for some time zones

[safe parcel]

All good and understandable, the main concern was just the daily events were in different order than what we were used too. Thank you for your prompt response.

[analog compass]

I believe the newer states have a slightly different schedule.

[fast flower]

Yeah they go off the old schedule from what I hear

[robust escarp]

Does anyone know how people are ranking with such high points (300M points)? I literally went from HQ 24 ->HQ 27 and did other building and research. But still no where close to their ranking. (25M points)

[glossy plank]

Your higher military research (especially military 2) has massive points per research

[gleaming pier]

Mil 2 and 3 research give crazy points at high levels

[whole heart]

Does anyone know how many point for gathering 1 steel on 1st day ace? I didn't ever look at it, if you have the points list for each rss type would be great, lol

[glossy plank]

There is a chart by Kato pinned with all the Ace points on this channel

[ebon linden]

This! So many yummy points up for grabs with these techs!

[bold umbra]

Mil2 gives way higher though than mil3

Also in relation to costs

[manic fulcrum]

Day 1. Gathering Day. ( Gain points by Gathering rss and in the pit.

Day 2. Path to Prosperity ( Gain points by completing Building and Research upgrades )

Day 3 Zombie Hunter ( Gain points by using stamina and AP )

Day 4 Troop Trainer ( Gain points by using Troop Training SPEEDUPS to Train or Promote Troops )
Originally used to be just training/ promoting troops

Day 5 - Supreme Commander ( Gain points by obtaining enhance materials and promoters for gear, chips, mods and cubes [ Open Chests Day ])

Day 6 - Noahs Coins Day ( Gain points by using Noahs Coins to obtain Hero Frags, obtain Modifiers and Bioenhancers Research )
Originally used to be "Ultimate Commander Event and span Day 6/ 7. Used to gain points by completing Building and Research upgrades and Training / Promoting Troops

Day 7 - Ultimate Trial Gain points by completing Building and Research upgrades and Training/ Promoting Troops.

Biggest tip for Ace Commander is to save items! Save Noah Coins, Enhance Materials Chests, Promoters Chests, Lair Chests. Save stamina and ap ( run stam builders before Day 3) and start builds and Research early! Same with Troop Training/ Promotions.

And always check the might gained on Building, Researches, Troop Training. Many don't give much might compared to others and most who are getting crazy high points throughout are people that spend.

With saving and thinking/ playing strategically, I can easily stay in top 20% overall and each phase without spending money. On certain days, I can hit top 5% fairly easy without going crazy.

Research, Building, Training Boosts are necessary or helpful atleast.

Gathering Day tip ( start your troops gathering in the Alliance Rss Bldg and set to end right after Reset on Day 1. This will almost instantly finish all phase rewards that day and easily jump start your Ace Commander event on the right foot. Be sure to check how long a full march takes to gather and that rss bldg won't empty before reset!

Good Luck!

[paper locust]

👀

[whole heart]

1% so high points 😶

[forest gull]

But was not enaugh for 1%

[silk wigeon]

How much the points are enough for 5% ??

[drowsy ginkgo]

Depends on your bracket. But to get into my top 5%, you need 65M +

[silk wigeon]

Thank you !!

[manic hatch]

Here's what I want to know - how are people logging 4M, 5M points right at the start of the gather event? I'm talking within minutes.

[blissful ledge]

Mill expires, new pit, and lvl 7 tile recall

[glossy plank]

Long pregather in the alliance mills

[manic hatch]

There are really gathers that can exceed millions? I suspected that was the case but havent seen it personally.

[glossy plank]

I start the day with 3m and I’m little.

[rocky vault]

Rare earth, subscription, swifting, nuka

[blissful ledge]

Gather for 2 days ahead of time. Suppose food could go to 3

[glossy plank]

Nuka doesn’t count for gathering

[manic hatch]

I thought swiping didnt count, nor nuka.

[blissful ledge]

Thought nuka counted

[glossy plank]

Nuka definitely does not count

[blissful ledge]

Haven’t paid too much attention. Make it up on troop day

[glossy plank]

Swifting counts. You have to time it right.

[rocky vault]

Have it nearly ready before you go. Automatically recalls marches when you relocate

[blissful ledge]

Figure gather from far away and get a 5 minute march back, you would be good

[manic hatch]

Interesting. I'll try and pop it right at reset next time. Mill gather is all Nova, right?

Might be worth it to max points there for the event day

[rocky vault]

Alliance tech and state gathering boosts applied earlier than reset

[glossy plank]

I send a single car with my march and hit 7’s on the far side of the mud. Swift to land after reset then I can swift and recall right before reset for double dipping my swift.

[manic hatch]

THAT is a great suggestion

Thank you!

Thats tight timing but I like the approach.

[glossy plank]

Gathering speed is mostly Nova, and a few economy heroes.
I’ve reset my nova to match the mill our alliance chose to use for Ace pregathering, make sure I’m on the right talent, and double check to make sure that my march returns after reset. Cars hold the most in alliance mill so last longest.

[rocky vault]

Mill gather is also one of the heroes, rather, gathering in general.

[manic hatch]

Perfect. Appreciate the help. That was driving me crazy.

[rocky vault]

Lol, No problem. You’re not the first to have asked, so we’ve come across new tips as well.

[worthy plank]

What is swifting?

[blissful ledge]

Swift gathering

[vale turtle]

Listening to Taylor Swift

[coarse hornet]

It really depends on your gather rate and how long you can sit in the Alliance rss spot. My gather rate isn't great but I put a march in the rss spot for 36 hours and it netted 1.85M. The biggest issue is whether or not the rss spot will run out or not. I'm guessing some players use a shell so they can gather for 3+ days without anyone else in the rss spot.

[fast flower]

If you know your alliances mill drop timing setting up mill to last is very very easy. I will hop from 1m points gathering to almost 5m when mill falls and i land around 6m points from also pulling out of the new mill before reset

And that's me not trying type of points lol

[main flicker]

I don't understand the second part.

[coarse hornet]

If you swift with slow trucks and tiles far away 10 minutes before Ace starts, they won't arrive back to HQ until after the gather phase has started. Then you can swift again just before Ace ends using Riders so they will get back to HQ before the gather phase ends.

[main flicker]

Thanks! I'm gonna try this nifty tip.

[random horizon]

Doesn't even need to be riders for the second one. What Hillside is saying is with the second swift, you hit recall after hitting swift so your troops all return in 3 seconds

[odd island]

What’s the next 3 days ?

Nvm reading up

[rain raven]

#🎖ace-commander message

here is an overview

[worldly ermine]

Opening supply boxes (from ZL) gives nova Econ pt, nova xp, gear enh1, and potential for 4/5star hero choice. Is there any event where acquiring hero choice card matters, or just using hero choice cards?

Hope that makes sense

[rancid hare]

Just using. Unless perfect frags....

[worldly ermine]

Yes. That’s what i thought. Just confirming. Thank you

[whole heart]

How many points for 0.5% guys?

[glossy plank]

It has been about 165m

[whole heart]

Crazy 😄 lucky got enough speed up

[astral sandal]

How many points for 1%?

[pallid aurora]

hi

how much is important rider formation and shooter formation research?

[rancid hare]

Very important. If your rider or shooter

[blissful ledge]

Don’t research it during ace. Research during off week where speedups matter

[pallid aurora]

ahh ok

[blissful ledge]

Military II is a huge boost during ace week training days

[tribal maple]

Hi, at .74% with 104k points. Wondering if it's worth the push. Have to buy resources. Can anyone in the top .5% share their points?

[rancid hare]

Someone just previous said 165m+ to keep .5%.

[tribal maple]

Thanks

Guess it's time to stay put.

[rancid hare]

Save a lot of military 2 research. A lot. And go all in

[tribal maple]

Thanks

[drowsy ginkgo]

Even then. I was at 168M on Sunday and only made top 5%.

[regal heron]

Ace is the worst 🙈 I only aim for top 10%, 5% if I'm feeling feisty that week...it's just so expensive

[eternal beacon]

I love ace I can get in top 20 percent without spending a dime

Easily top 20 percent without no money you gotta save all you tavern coins all your zombies boxes and don't do any extra training of troops save them up for training day .. before day one gathering get in full march to alliance and time all marches you have to finish gathering just after reset on Sunday

I got more tips to but it's mostly hoarding everything you get until ace and you can usually easily make top ten even without spending any money

I haven't spent any money at all on sixth account in a new state and I'm already up to level 22 HQ might not be super strong every other week but come ace especially when I can get choice cards I will definitely be stronger after every acet

It's game of patience if you don't want to spend money

[fast flower]

Hehe same if you know all the days you can easily make great points. On training speedup day i do promoting or t1 training and save the actual new troop training for the last day and if ya can make it join wasteland and get that fast comeback

[fleet bobcat]

Yeah... if you hoard everything then ace is pretty easy... i actually try to push my leah so i spend all stuff i would need for ace in break loose 😤😂

[fast flower]

Ace/break loose lineups are the way im only 2 frags from plus 6 leah

[vale citrus]

So anyone know why your personal ace points are so much higher than your rank points?

[blissful ledge]

Should be in pins or search

[fast flower]

2 different rank systems. 1 is based off 300k the other based off 1m points

[lusty venture]

My state is a newer one and the last time we had Ace it was running the non-global version that has slightly different objectives and point calculations. This week we are now on global, and I want to confirm -- the day where previously you gained points by actually improving your personal might with gear and chips and modules and so on, now is strictly based on acquiring those items? So I can use my enhancers and promoters and stuff as I acquire them now instead of saving to use on that day?

[blissful ledge]

Enhancers are gone now. Use them anytime

Strictly getting gear/modules/chips/cubes

[lusty venture]

thank you, that's super helpful to know what I don't need to hoard anymore

[analog compass]

Basically just hoard the choice boxes

[vale citrus]

I had 2 million personal and like 480k ranked

[fast flower]

There is the day rank vs global rank. The first day the percents are always wacky. The points should be the same for both on the first day

[vale citrus]

Both the day and global were the same but my personal one was 2 million

[blissful ledge]

#🎖ace-commander message

From the pins

[vale citrus]

This is what it shows now

[fast flower]

Well I got 5.3m for day 1. Phase rank was 2 to 3 percent landed mr top 5 percebt for the day and global rank was about 4 percent. Phase rank is a score above 300k and just for that day. Total rank is as it says total points you need 1m points to land in it so yes your phase rank and total rank percent may be completely different

[vale citrus]

That was my phase pts
Phase rank points was 480k

[quiet egret]

Question: Training day using speed-up. With state boost you need less speed-ups. Does that mean you need to train more troops / more often as without that boost for same points?

[faint leaf]

Yes.

Just make it a taxi day

[quiet egret]

I got showdown troop might connected and wait for break loose as well. Gotta start my T10 riders

[faint leaf]

Ohh... I think its better to pick speed up quest for today. Troop might showdown better on last day of ace.
But just finish your quest... All is good

[rancid hare]

For me. Takes less speedups to do 3m might than 20 days lol

[warm monolith]

Anyone know the time between each Ace Commander event?

[blissful ledge]

Every other week

Check this pin out #🗓regular-events message

And this one #🗓regular-events message

[cerulean meteor]

If you know. You know.
https://tenor.com/view/gather-power-gather-power-get-power-goku-gif-16479222

[rancid hare]

Congratulations

[quick lagoon]

Ace commander больше не будет ?
Или в понедельник больше не будет "сбор ресурсов" ?
С появлнием "золотой кирки"
сбор редкоземельных материалов не имеет права участвовать в "сборе ресурсов" .
Иначе это будет первоклассный покупатель , а не первоклассный командир

[craggy galleon]

the big spenders are already the ones getting the high rankings on gather day. they have the biggest march sizes, the highest troop load, and the fastest march speeds. they’re able to get more rss and rare earth already because their spending has afforded them more opportunity to get more rss and rare earth at one time than others

[paper locust]

I got a question about ace rewards anyone on?

[rancid hare]

What's the question

[paper locust]

Lazuli you always answer me hahaha

Umm so ace rewards and moving states

I have friends of mine transferring states. They are afraid they will lose ace rewards if they come to the new state before reset to make it for showdown. Will they still get all their rewards if they leave before tomorrows reset?

[rancid hare]

Ace ends 30 min before reset

They might lose there placing. But not their points if they move before that.

[paper locust]

So they would still get all of their ace rewards at reset if they move before reset??

[rancid hare]

The rewards will be given before reset. So yeah they will be good

[paper locust]

Okay good! So your advice is they should wait until they get the rewards 30 minutes before reset and then fly over to John to make showdown?

[rocky vault]

I think rewards are given ten minutes after ace ends.

[rancid hare]

They would need to be quick. You MUST be in the alliance 10 minutes before reset for showdown

[paper locust]

Does the ace rewards vary by state??

[rancid hare]

Yes and no. Newest states have different releases on heroes.

[lunar inlet]

Is there anyone staying at Globally 3% in Ace commander?

[glossy plank]

Takes about 68m for top 3%

[lunar inlet]

Too late, I was at 60mil and ended up in 5%

[forest gull]

I was over 90 mil...and Im in 3%

[analog compass]

I got it with almost 80m

[timber sapphire]

I just need 25 more for Nam...crap I have to push for top 10% now...smh

[fast flower]

You can also aim for the daily frags too and that should help bunches. Top 30 percent is minimum I think

[timber sapphire]

Ohhhh true true. ..I can aim for too 20% or 30%. Yessssss.

I'm glad now...cant wait to be done with her so i can focus on wall e

[fast flower]

I sometimes forget you can get those frags too

[fleet bobcat]

My nam is on +0 😂

[lusty stone]

For some reason mine is +2. I don't remember doing so and I don't know why I would do it either.

[fast flower]

Mines red star all my main heros are up there so I'm red starring the rest lol

[glossy plank]

My nam is nicely enhanced

[fast flower]

I'm enhancing my obsidian currently I think I got 1 frag to go

[glossy plank]

I pushed obsidian early. Leaving him +5 unless I get an apex for him. Which as a shooter, is more likely than anything shooter focused 🤣😭

[fast flower]

I didn't push him early now he's one of those lower heros and I really dislike it lol

I gotta stop doing ace for months tho lol

[glossy plank]

I only do limited amounts for ace. I get zeros on a couple days consistently.

[fast flower]

I have no more mil 2 so it's the same for me now

[cerulean meteor]

Well it was good while it lasted. Extremely disappointed. Farewell my friends.

[oblique mural]

Quick question…. How is this possible

Literally 8 mins after start

[cerulean meteor]

You can buy diamonds now. Gathering means nothing.

[blissful ledge]

You gather all through weekend and recall right before start. Swift gather lvl 7 tiles. Now diamonds are involved so lots of people buy big boxes on ace Monday of ace because of doom fest. This added bonus is wonderful as it allows you to double dip on doom and ace.

[oblique mural]

https://tenor.com/view/pinguman-surprise-pinguman-mikefoster-surprise-monke-surprised-gif-25977149

So yet again those willing to spend silly money…

[blissful ledge]

Spend what you want. It’s a game and called disposable income. If they want to spend it on that good for them. Not my place to tell them no.

[eternal charm]

Once again a massive change in scoring to a major event of the game with 0 heads up or announcement. Developers lack of regard for their players shows no limits. But hey, here's another event to shove spending down our throats, glad their bonuses will be so nice this year.

[arctic garnet]

Thanks for screwing up gathering day. No skill required!! They should change name to 💰 day!! What a load off shit!!!

[fierce zinc]

Ya had me till the word Now.

[fast flower]

I'll just better the add once I see where my normal 5m points get me

[whole heart]

Yeah, it sucks Bamor. I was 1st again, few minutes later I am out of top 3 😑

Wtf this game doing, idk how many points for 0.5% this week, fukkkkkk it

[dull roost]

Fuuuuuukkkk you!!! Let’s ruin the game even more. Only people who can win anymore are people with unlimited income on their credit cards.

[blissful ledge]

Then don’t play?

[analog compass]

Okay keep it civil guys. This change surprised all of us

[fast flower]

I wanna say I'm surprised but I'm honestly not. I'm more worried about how bad this is gonna effect ranking

[vague jacinth]

Big spenders were probably crying how there was one event where they couldn't buy #1. My god

[lusty stone]

I regret reading this channel today 😂

[vague jacinth]

I'm starting to regret I ever started playing this game

[lusty stone]

Legit advice, not being a dick: if you don't enjoy it, quit. There's always something else out there. And if you're worried that all the money you spent will go to waste, look up sunk cost fallacy.
I left part of a 20+ year hobby because I wasn't enjoying it.

[rocky vault]

They could at least give us VC diamond mines for today since they're going to make diamonds worth 25x more than any single rss.

[lusty stone]

That sounds not terrible. But man would it be (extra) hell in terms of gathering. It's already miserable trying to get level 6/7 tiles 😂

[rocky vault]

I no longer bother with higher level tiles. Not worth the fighting that ensues, or the less than caring attitude of some.

[vague jacinth]

You think I haven't thought about that? Come on now. But there are some amazing people in my current alliance they keep me from leaving right now.

[lusty stone]

Then you'll just have to find that compromise of playing but not worrying about ranking high in events.

But also you'd be surprised how many folks I meet in hobbies and games that are miserable playing it but don't want to give it up because of how long they've done it or how much they've invested. Which is why I had to mention it.

[fast flower]

It's the people I play with that make things fun

[vague jacinth]

I have been doing that, I have been online less and less. But gathering day was a day where I could actually bother. But now even top 5% is out of reach so that's another event on the 'can't be bothered' pile. Going to try and get the police car march and re-evaluate. Probably won't even be buying supply kit anymore.

[rancid hare]

Police car will probable be intel event. 😩

[vague jacinth]

for real? I was hoping scorched earth

[fast flower]

Scorched earth similar event just happened

[rancid hare]

I'm assume this passed weekend was the scorched earth type

[vague jacinth]

that was regular scorched earth tho. But we'll see I suppose

I hope you're wrong lol

[rancid hare]

There was another one in the holiday events...

[vague jacinth]

Oh yeah the shoot the dog.

that was on the 'can't be bothered' pile so forgot about that

[rancid hare]

I got to level 8 with just the dailies lol

[vague jacinth]

I only get 150 daily points so I didn't

[rocky vault]

Does it skip from 150 to 180? Cuz you can get 160 without buying.

[vague jacinth]

I don't care really. I save my enhance options for the daily event quest on monday. and i also save my research speed ups. So 150 it is

[lusty stone]

Yes, I think it was 100, 150 and 180. I barely got to level 5 and still had to buy 3 ammos.

[snow marlin]

Totally unfair to add diamond points into gather day. I spent ages getting my gather stats up. Waste of effing time.

[vague jacinth]

Won't be long before free players can get absolutely nothing, not even by saving up. If the above players are correct, and the new march is also now only when you pay I've saved over 1,2m diamonds for absolutely no reason

[paper cloud]

This is a joke. Wtf is wrong with this game. So again not only does it cost an arm and leg to get frames skins marches , so that only those with big pockets can gain a significantly more strength lead on all player base but now you have to turn basic events into a money grab too where again those with deep pockets gain extremely large distance in strength. I mean all of us should just stop paying anything for this game there's no sense in it . The same thousand players or so with deep pockets will support this game financially. Lets see what happens when they get done spending.

[vague jacinth]

Want to know what happens? They grab a copy of this game from about 2 years ago (so the worst of the pay2win isn't in yet), put a new skin on and start the whole marketing machine again.

[paper cloud]

I get the rinse repeat this game is anything but new and exciting. Same events different skins . Washed out. The point is something as an event like this they even have to wash out the non pay players by catering to those with deep pockets. It's a joke.

[vague jacinth]

You have no idea how much I agree with you

[paper cloud]

Dude really at this point they might as well just sell the big spenders the skins off the bat and allow the majority base of the community a chance to even think about getting something through actually playing the game.

[rocky vault]

Everyone who is furious about them adding purchasing diamonds to gather day, please send your complaints to the devs via CS in game, Facebook, emails, and any other platform they use. If we fill their inboxes with complaints, they may (I'm nOt gonna hold my breath though) change it back.

[dull roost]

12 hours into day one.

[green mason]

They’re really cutting out the middle man with all these “improvements”. They made it easier for new members to upgrade, made it pay to win on the few events free to play players can actually save up and score some nice rewards. I honestly don’t know what the goal is here. There’s absolutely no point in even trying to rank on ace unless you’re ready to spend thousands. You don’t even have to gather now lol. Should just take the entire gathering day off and make it who can buy the most diamonds to win first day of ace.

[gleaming pier]

Well, it's a p2w game, they just reinforced the message, I used to rank on top 1% on gathering day, now I'm at 2%, so it's really only 1 frag and a 500 diamonds less, I'm curious about the impact on total rank in the end

[vague jacinth]

I don't mind pay2win. Like you said, it was always like that. But it feels like pay2participate now

[edgy lily]

Same lol...I have saved resources and speedups so that I can get into the top 1% this time. i hope it stays that way

[hexed musk]

Keep dreaming… with how much some people spend not a shot for top 1 maybe top 20% if your lucky

Kadomaro spended €24.000 till now

720mil points : 100(points per diamond)
7.2 mil : 30.000 diamonds= 240

240 X €100 packs =€24.000

So fun payday for pns😊

[edgy lily]

Let me dream 😔

[icy creek]

Just when you think get ahead on something they switch it up. I would love to walk away from this game but all the friends I’ve made it make it damn near impossible 🥲

[limpid niche]

Thoughts on the new addition of GETting your points during Ace Events

= Getting diamonds and buying my way to the top rankings!
🤦🏻‍♀️= Why can’t we rank just by gathering?
🥫= I only gather to earn my phase rewards. Don’t care about ranking.
😬 = I don’t participate in Ace
😐 = Where are the updates that we’ve been suggesting and that need fixing? Cause this wasn’t one of them.

[oblique mural]

I’ve long since been content with top 5% as it takes silly money to get into top 0.5 % these days

[shut ferry]

Must be nice to have "disposable" income in this economy. 🙄

[tired hornet]

Well, I made a failure, I understand gathering like send trucks to tiles and get RSS, but it's better to fill the trucks with money and send it to the Developers and be Rank 1 😂 🤣 😂

[fast sleet]

👆🏻Wow ! what a sad sad day ! I didn’t know the game was supposed to demoralize people this way unless that’s the intention ? Well you’ve successfully done it

[tired hornet]

At reset, you know how much to spend for a good ranking in Ace 🤣

[limpid niche]

I think the “gathering” was meant for PNS to gather money from its players today

[fast sleet]

It’s obvious they didn’t like people smarter than them and the only way to beat you was throw money at it

[tired hornet]

But milking is more like it, but you are to 100% right. I'm just wondering in which patch notes this renew stands

[cerulean meteor]

RIP skill based events. Could have easily added it a separate parallel event and kept gathering points separate.

[dull roost]

https://tenor.com/view/money-shutup-take-gif-7953571

It’s a gathering challenge not how much can I spend

[fast sleet]

They couldn’t beat you then !

[severe sedge]

Sad to see this change to Ace commander. I have been saving speed ups for months to be able to finally get .5% and the achievement. I have about 14k training hours which should get me 170m points which was about what I was told I’d need for top .5%. I did long researches and my first HQ upgrade in about 6 months which will finish after reset. I decided to check the standings and saw someone was at 1b points on gathering day and was like wtf. No warning this was coming, and now I may have lost my chance to get the achievement since I waited 2 weeks too long.

I’m not a whale who spends tens of thousands of dollars on this game, but I have sunk a few thousand into it over the last 10m since I started playing. Feels like the rug got pulled out from under me without any warning on this one.

[severe sedge]

Up to almost 350 packs now. 1.047b / 3m points per $100 pack = 349

Is anyone ranked near the top .5% global right now and can comment on how many points they have?

[crude rain]

That’s about 4,500 in boxes

[severe sedge]

Thank you so much! I only need .5% so good to know I’m not competing with people who have 100m points already if 50m is .03%

[crude rain]

Yup no worries

[severe sedge]

I saved enough speed ups to get 170m the last day alone so I should still be good for .5% (let’s hope).

[rancid hare]

I hope you make it too

[crude rain]

What is the next event anyone know?

I’m horrible at keeping track

[severe sedge]

Build/Research/Buy More Diamonds (probably )

[crude rain]

Hell yeah

I’m stupid I just upgraded my hq to 37

Took 90 days of speed ups

Well looks like 38 here I come

[severe sedge]

Now that I have an icon in the PnS server pulling for me I can’t lose 💪🏻

[blissful ledge]

Let us know how you finish.

[severe sedge]

I will! Dolphin saver vs the whales, can I win? Stay tuned

[limpid niche]

☝🏽😬 Bumping this back up for those who are just noticing the Ace Gathering Day change

[analog compass]

Well here's hoping that my headquarter upgrade actually is worth it

[fast flower]

This ace looks pretty broken I mean familiar names at top like usual but still holy wowza

[flint urchin]

This was about 2 Ace’s ago. Please don’t get discouraged by the top 3 scores of any single phase or overall. If you manage to be top 1% each day you should have absolutely nothing to worry about.

[severe sedge]

Looks like day 1 isn’t as bad as I was worried it would be. I’m only about 3.5% since I was busy with VC until the end and lost a few million points from not gathering in the alliance mill all day, but I think I’m good.

[flint urchin]

If you saved like you thought you should be just fine. I saved for 6 months personally. I did have what I consider a lot of promoter boxes 🤣. Had 270 Bioschemes, pretty much saved everything I could for each days events.

With the craziness of the scores today I am interested in seeing what other BS changes they add to each day.

[severe sedge]

That’s my bigger worry. Maybe the last day is also P2W. I have enough speed up hours to get about 170m points just training troops the last day, so I am expecting at least 200-220m points total.

[flint urchin]

Just do your thing and if you don’t get it follow this advice very closely.

Gently place your gaming device down, look left, look right, take a breath.

Say “This game hates my guts!” Then laugh and know that this is a money grab game that if your wallet is big enough you don’t need to be patient and have a strategy.

No disrespect to the players that can afford to pay for what you have I am just a hater because I am not at that level 🤣🤣🤣

[severe sedge]

Same lmfao

[crude crescent]

First day with someone with a score like that. Game so unbalanced that rich people are able to grow to fast

[icy creek]

None of us are. That’s why we here bitchin 😂

[crude crescent]

They seriously need to balanced this game out.

[icy creek]

It is balanced

[crude crescent]

600 points for Tyrant avatar and I did a bunch of rallies and I am lucky I got 30 on first day.

[icy creek]

For the rich 😂

[crude crescent]

Exactly. No fair to everyday people who play

[icy creek]

They don’t care about us every day players. I used to enjoy this game back when t10s were the top tier and it actually felt like a game. Now it’s just a money flex

[crude crescent]

Yeah crazy to think a crappy game on the phone is way more expensive then playing a game on Xbox or PS

[icy creek]

I woulda walked away awhile ago but resell values for these accounts are garbage, I’m not selling my account for $500 when I put over 10k in it 😂 guess I’m stuck with this pos

[severe sedge]

My buddy sent me this. I also found an old screenshot from when I had 6.5m points day 1 and was ranked .54%. With an hour left to go it looks like top .5% will be about 3-4m higher on day 1 with this change. So now day 1 is P2W but if you’re going for top .5% weekly it’s not going to change the points you need by the end of the week too much. If you were going for top 3 day 1 though… haha good luck.

[fast flower]

6m used to get me top 1 percent im not even close to that currently🫣

[oblique axle]

Who thought it was a good idea to ruin Ace Commander😑😑😑

[fast flower]

Devs and their imaginary people saying they want it

[flint eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/show-me-the-money-jerry-maguire-jerry-macguire-money-tom-cruise-gif-17447659

[rancid hare]

I'm doing good! Even at 84% I'm getting a frag or two hahah

[glossy plank]

Just barely made it. Nice. 6.3m was 1.7%

6.3m was about 0.7% last Ace. Would have been nice to get the extra frag. But clearly PNS accountants have other ideas

[whole heart]

mf the game dev

[coarse hornet]

Cut off was around 7.42m

My farm fell short by a little bit.

[slate void]

Anyone have ace schedule?

[rain raven]

#🎖ace-commander message

most of it is pinned. this would be the most current plan

[slate void]

Ty

[fleet bobcat]

Have it updated for monday 😵‍💫🙈

[limpid niche]

...and just me still curious as to what player's thoughts are on the Ace Gathering Day change... Let me know with a reaction to the post above!

[willow berry]

Is it ok if I write something as the options are not available?

[lime ivy]

Move the diamonds to Tuesday

[edgy lily]

or better, remove it from the game

[tall gazelle]

The things I could do with those 10 mil diamonds!!

[arctic garnet]

If PNS made diamond mines pop up like valiant, it would be a true gathering day.
If you PNS people are to cheap to give us a second diamond gathering day, then move the mines from valiant to ace gathering day. If you are going to keep it the way it is, change the name of it because it has nothing to do about gathering.

[severe sedge]

That’s not true. It’s about gathering your credit card numbers.

[limpid niche]

Of course. It’s nice to know what players think and to discuss it.

Whether or not other players agree or disagree with it. Just keep it civil 😊

[willow berry]

(Forgive for bad English)🙏 I have mixed feelings about the changes.

It's good for players who wants to earn good points without spending as much. The only thing they have to do is continuos gather throughout the whole Day 1 and probably purchased some additional boost which is not that expensive. Although,

On one point, gathering the whole day is something that some are not able to do due to work or commitment, hence getting Diamonds is the easiest way although it is not cheap.

[limpid niche]

Yes. Not everyone has the time to go into game every couple hours to gather.

But this was the one event where players who don’t have the money to buy things - like diamonds - so they make up for it by working hard to make sure they go into game, that they do send their marches out and plan ahead so that they have a chance to rank.

But now, someone who doesn’t want to put in the work can easily just use their diamonds and push all of them out of rankings. There’s enough events out there for the spenders.

They’ve changed so many events to only “get”, so only those who have money to spend can rank and those who have saved up items in their bags can no longer use them to rank in most events.

So I get that the option to “get diamonds” is more convenient….if you have the money to spend

But most players don’t spend that much in game. The estimated amount of diamonds used to rank 1st in gathering this week was more than what players would spend in this game overall.

We’ve always known that the game would cater to the spenders. But recently that’s all the updates are for. The spenders. So every advantage F2P is being slowly but surely removed.

[willow berry]

I understand your view as I have mixed feelings about it. Best case is, after they received many constructive feedback, they will remove it as the Gather Ace doesn't need any changes.

[limpid niche]

We will need to wait and see. But if they’re prioritizing money over the feelings of it’s players, then we know it won’t change.

[eternal charm]

I still think the larger issue that is getting overshadowed by the buy diamond factor is the fact that the devs saw fit to change the scoring in such a drastic way with 0 warning. In a game like this players plan for weeks or months to try and earn certain rewards, and making changes that completely change the scoring and approach someone needs to take with no notice or discussion is a huge slap in the face to all those that invest the time, energy and money into trying to be successful.

[blissful ledge]

If majority of players are free to play or cheap to play. How much did it really affect? Hillside said his rank went up 1% for the day.

Will be interesting to see if final results are changed much.

[severe sedge]

As far as I gathered top .5% was only affected about 3-4m points. So it wasn’t as bad as it seems. It’s just comical to see day 1 go from 12m points max to 1b points.

[severe sedge]

I show the math here.

I put up 46m points today and I am at .21% with only 6m scored yesterday (52.4 total). So it’s not impossibly unattainable.

[fast flower]

To follow this I regularly hit 6m+ points every gather day I went from 0.70 percent which is my average to 2 percent. So my first day rank went from top 1 percent to top 5 percent and that's insane with me personally. They always breaking things that ain't broke. I rarely spend

[blissful ledge]

Thank you for the feedback.

[fast sleet]

The first thing would be to change the name of the game because it’s no longer a puzzle or skills based when you only have to spend money to gain big rewards. It no longer takes any skills by using the grey matter that sits on our shoulders. A zombie can touch a button just like a mouse can be trained to hit a lever to give it food. If only spending money is the new game it will further alienate people and once everyone leaves or stops playing the game altogether and many have just look around the waste lands at all who have quit. Everyone spends money to play period just by having the means to access the game alone. Last time I checked my access alone is a car payment for most people. When all the “dedicated “ players leave the big spenders won’t have anyone to play the whole game will die and the enormous investments they’ve made ,well let’s just say the joke is on them lmao

[glossy plank]

No, it went down 1%.

[limpid niche]

The majority of the players are F2P to low budget spenders. The ones who spend a dollar or a few every week or those who save up and wait for an event to blow their budget on.

Hill usually ranks within the Top 1% during gathering. He dropped out of that this time around. How will this affect long term? Don’t know.

…and speaking of. There he is 🤣

[glossy plank]

Same number of points last ace got me 1% ranking. This time I missed it.

[fast flower]

Same hillside

[blissful ledge]

Just trying to figure out how much it screws up final ace points

Thx for the feedback hillside

[glossy plank]

Pretty much exactly my results

[glossy plank]

Well since the person who took first yesterday had almost the same number of daily points as the person who took first overall after a week last ace, it definitely changes something.

[blissful ledge]

Way in my head was up 1% was add 1% to what it already was.

[blissful ledge]

3-10 people does it matter. A couple hundred people, is top .5% even obtainable? That is what I’m curious on

Because that can/will shift the brackets at the end

[glossy plank]

IF diamonds had been worth 1 point instead of 100, maybe it would have been a balanced change.

[blissful ledge]

Just wait til next ace when people know you can spend diamonds. That one will be one I won’t be going for.

What were the rank break points by might last time?

[mystic swift]

Well this change surely put an end to my spending on this game so I am thankful for the change. Had been trying to stop but was failing at it. Kinda thankful to the devs haha

[blissful ledge]

~51 mil was top 5%

[fast flower]

I actually stopped doing ace on my 1 account im testing through my lil account if I get points passively on my big it's ok lol

[limpid niche]

But then would players continue to participate next Ace after the changes this week? Or will they have given up knowing they won’t rank unless they get diamonds.

There’s a chance that those who ranked high this week won’t be spending the same amount next Ace, but the chances of people not bothering to participate at all is higher now with the thought of “no point in working for it since someone can easily cash in and drop me”.

[mystic swift]

I can tell you that’s exactly my thought at least

[blissful ledge]

I think more will spend, maybe not as high. The diamond event falls on doom so folks will always be spending on that

Why I want to see how the other brackets change.

Is it no longer worth saving for top 5, 10, or 20%

[fast flower]

As of right now after seeing the scores I do find it kinda pointless continuing but my t9 needs more frags lol may not be the same people on top next time but as long as diamond buying stays we will be seeing someone with those high scores. This was the one event as f2p that was easy and just seeing how much I dropped the first day is kinda discouraging. I understand those big spenders help keep the game run but almost everything is turning into spending.

[glossy plank]

My overall ace the last couple months has been pretty light since I’ve mostly focused on Twins and Leah (only 2 more weeks for leah +8!!!!).
It has been almost a year since I’ve gotten points on day 2 of ace (maxxed build and researched hq29), and I stopped training on day 4 when they changed the points to speedups since it dropped me 30% points per speedup vs when it was points per troop tier (maxxed nova training speed, maxxed bootcamps and apex magnum).
And I’ve been saving AP for other events so my day 3 AP/Stam is phase completion only.

[tired hornet]

Hi everyone,
I have to say in Ace Commander before this crappy change without patch notes on Monday the dominance of Money was visible, if you see Friday we used to collect all the upgrades and use them at ACE Friday. But Big spenders couldn't upgrade anymore, so they changed this event to allow Big spenders to open tons of boxes and get points for it.

I'm also trying to get Leah to +8, but more than 2 pieces can usually only be made with a large donation in the shop. So I don't try it and I'm happy with 2 pieces by Leah, but it's a long time to play for it.

I have also a HQ29 to play Nukaland. This was a very funny event and I really enjoyed this time before they removed upgrade locks. Nowadays only a useless lock exists, that an HQ29 couldn't make map 3 in campaign and was useless in arena without Level 400 Hero's and didn't get ranked in Top 1000.

Maybe you can ask the developer why this lock must be and each other was removed..

[edgy lily]

@frosty bridge

[frosty bridge]

yes POS👀

[edgy lily]

Hehe

[tired hornet]

Here is a screenshot for all that didn't know this:

[frosty bridge]

can i request crunch instead👀

[fast flower]

I actually like this lock. There needs to be limits somewhere. Dont get me wrong the powerhouse t9s are impressive but imo this is necessary

[tired hornet]

Sorry to inform you, but a Level 400 hero don't give you more attack, it's only for arena or couldn't you beat them in arena if they are allowed to get Level 400 hero's?

[arctic garnet]

Everyone is talking about their %. What about your rank? I have ranked 22 out of 300k people a couple of times, which is my best. I wanted to try a different strategy to see if I could do better. Now gathering does not count. 😩

[fast flower]

Actually it makes a world of a difference. Ive borrowed heros at 400 in alliance trial and I did so much better. So yes you want it upgrade to hq30 but in this game there is so much you lower tier guys have access to that I'm grateful there's still stop points. I've been sitting here for months tryna get those books.

[fast flower]

I don't wanna talk about that lol also I don't really pay attention as much too it

[tired hornet]

I made with my HQ34 Map3 and upgrade my hero's I know how hard it is

[edgy lily]

@drowsy ginkgo suku needs ur help

[drowsy ginkgo]

Oh oh

Sure can lol

@frosty bridge what’s up?

[drowsy ginkgo]

Except this lock is useless. If I can equip my farm 19 with 8 star gear and 9 star chips, but can’t go further in campaign because of my HQ level, the priorities aren’t set straight at all.

[mystic swift]

They are straight. Depends on the vantage point. Gear equip is a better earner #sarcasm

[tired hornet]

Keeping the joy of your players is priceless

[fast flower]

I wish they kept some of the caps they had tbh. That's what used to help me grow lol

[drowsy ginkgo]

Likewise. My chips would be 10 star by now.

[tired hornet]

As I know there is no limit. Only some modules places and cube places are locked by now. But they could be also maxed (level 40 with 10 stars)

[lusty stone]

There's a cap on refinement for modules and cubes.

[fast flower]

Is there?I thought it was based on how many of the things you upgrade. I know glory has a lil bit of a cap

[lusty stone]

5 for module, 8 for cube.

[fast flower]

Ahhhh yes forgot about that

[fleet bobcat]

No tagging of mods only in case of emergencys 👀

[edgy lily]

I didnt tagged all mods 👀

Only crunch

[fleet bobcat]

Was just teasing 😁

[edgy lily]

Falla we habe to be serious. We are dc mods

[analog compass]

I will be serious once they take us serious

[analog compass]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-silly-place-holy-grail-gif-14462043

[shut ferry]

So what's the point of Ace again? This event has literally turned into no skills required. Just buy your way to the top.

[blissful ledge]

Hasn’t it always been buy your way to the top?

[crisp pagoda]

Does anyone have or seen a overview of ace. They changed a bit now and I can’t find actual version in here 😬. Maybe someone can help ?

[coarse hornet]

The only change so far is the addition of buying diamond packs to Gather Day. All of the previous guides are still relevant except for that change.

[fleet bobcat]

Here toon 👀 😂
#🎖ace-commander message

With the newest change on monday

Also updated 👀

[hollow sierra]

Top 1% points for training phase?

[lusty stone]

12m is 1.67%.

[hollow sierra]

Ty

[glossy plank]

I um uh… have been consistent the last few Ace Training days 🤣

[lusty stone]

13.7m is 1.33%

17.4m is 0.97% @hollow sierra

[lusty stone]

Lol nice. This is my baby account so it still has some growing to do.
I just do bare minimum on the days I can on my main.

[lusty stone]

Training speedup is ezpz since it's only like 110 hours. Why don't you do it?

You even get a partial refund on speedups. Can even train taxis 😂

[glossy plank]

For me, those hours are better used on the last day of ace, BL training or BL speedup, or new development day.

[glossy plank]

I only have t9 troops

[lusty stone]

I'm not sure how many training speedups you normally accumulate, but for me I always seems to have enough to complete those events and still be net positive for the week (except I've been going ham trying to get my troop count up).

[glossy plank]

I burn A LOT on a regular basis.

[blissful ledge]

For your count of lairs and hero cards. Opened a 100 and got this

[analog compass]

Nice haul

[blissful ledge]

Ty

[lusty stone]

15.1m is .91%

[tribal maple]

Anyone in top .5%, please let’s know your points. Trying to determine if it’s worth the push. Currently, 103k at .94%.

[astral sandal]

It's normally 150m for .5%

[tribal maple]

Thanks

[glossy plank]

Without diamonds, it has been around 165m+ for .5%. Expect it to be much higher this week

[severe sedge]

Top .5% only moved day 1 by about 3-4m points and none of the other days changed, which means if it was 165m before it would be maybe 170m now. I had been told .5% was around 170-180m so I planned to get 200 just to be safe.

For the people I was talking to Monday when we were angry about the new change… I still made it!

@blissful ledge @rancid hare look above

[drowsy ginkgo]

I gave up on ace and the Obsidian frags. Started my fighters instead when I see you in Nuka.

[wooden lark]

Does next Ace start this coming Monday?

[rancid hare]

Starts next week.

[summer slate]

Bitterly disappointed in the decision to include diamond purchases to get points on Ace Resource Gather day... Now anyone with money to throw at the game can easily beat players who have put in the effort to get a resource orientated Talent set, research all the additional speed boosts, grinded Nova for speed gather, pushed alliance RSS gather skill... So disheartening that the one day where money can't buy you first spot outright has now been devolved into who's got the most to throw at the game. What is left for the "non whale" players to win at ? Drop 100$ today instant 3m points... That's basically equivalent to the players that have to chose to not travel to other states for VC so that their troops at the alliance mill can be there for the couple of days in order to finish as the event starts to achieve Maximum points. Gather day should be about gathering only not "Here Take my Money"

[rocky vault]

Please, phrase this as a suggestion and put it in #💭closed-game-suggestions and send it to CS. I did last time, but you can see how much good one person's voice did. The more who contact the to complain, the better the chance they will change it back or change it to diamond mines.

[summer slate]

I will do this bud! Let's hope they actually take notice

[rocky vault]

I hope so! It sucks that they changed it so drastically.

[delicate heath]

Has anyone had their alliance run farm and/or lumber mill for gathering phase of ace so everyone could get in the top 1% of the phase? I'm asking because I have talked to some players that told me that is what they do because everyone gets between 10-15M food and/or wood for over 2M points for ace gather phase but nobody has ever gotten 500K for 2M points

[fast flower]

We usually have gas or steel or wood depending on what rotation point we are in. I haven't noticed a difference in my score it's all the same.

[glossy plank]

Gathering rates are based on individual boosts. Have everyone in your alliance share these and see what is the most beneficial. You can also adjust your personal boosts in Nova to match what others benefit most from.

[fast flower]

Also dont forget it's 20 food/wood to 4 steel to 1 gas

For points

[glossy plank]

Which really means they are all equal because without any nova or hero boosts, it takes exactly the same amount of time to gather a food or a gas tile.

[fast flower]

Yes I did the math comparison from gas to wood this week they were about the same amount of point pull out when I went to nuka

[delicate heath]

I can get almost 3M points for just gathering tiles but for some reason I might be close to top 20% phase but for total it is usually upper 50 to low 60%. Think it would be same since gather phase is first phase but total is different

2 years of playing game and had an even build going for a year

[fast flower]

Im at the same amount of time and only here

[glossy plank]

Your economy research and nova can help a lot with that. Also using the right talents makes a difference.

With the alliance mill, the key is to restart it as early as possible, while ensuring it doesn’t run out before Ace starts. We also reset it shortly after Ace starts so that it lasts the whole day and doesn’t run out while people are sleeping or not expecting it.

[delicate heath]

Last time we ran alliance farm I got 9.93M both times but last time I was in alliance gas I only got 286K. The basically 10M food would be about 2M points but the gas wouldn't even be 1.2M points

[fast flower]

Mill runs out fast too one's people start pulling out and going back in boosted lol

[fast flower]

Your pull out times of mill might of been different I notice close in numbers for mills unless I pull out by accident too early

[glossy plank]

Agreed

[fast flower]

I sit and pull out the same time every week for ace. Because we'll I do nuka right at reset lol

[delicate heath]

The gas was about 30hrs in and the farms was only about 26hrs

The farms both times they kicked and the gas I was till my troops returned after gather

[glossy plank]

So many factors. Did you start at the same time? Did you have gathering boosts running? Were you on the wrong talent?

[delicate heath]

I just recently got talent sets, when all that happened I was even build with talents

I still have my even build as base

[blissful ledge]

I recommend having farm leasing into troop building days on Thursday and Sunday. It’s nice to have a ton of food to make new troops.

Also for sd it helps having the same mill and the knowledge it will be the same mill all week.

[analog compass]

This is under my military talent and I haven't even maxed out my research for economy yet

[glossy plank]

Nice! I left my nova alone for a while working on troop armour, just getting back to slowly maxing out my gathering rates again.

[fast flower]

I have 2 left on troop Armour then I maxing the gather stuff in nova

[humble sinew]

You guys are constantly messing up Ace Commander. Why in the heck did you add diamonds in phase 1???????? I used to get into the top 10% from gathering every ACE now I'm over 60% because you have focused on people spending money ONLY. What a ripoff. Bad customer experience again.

[cobalt vector]

😂😂😂

[fast flower]

You are gathering... with your money lol

[coarse hornet]

That's because it's looking at two different pools of players. For phase ranking, you're being compared to everyone who's scored at least 300k points. For overall, you're being compared to everyone who's scored at least 1M points.

With Doom running and folks buying diamond packs for it, it's upped the scores. To get 1%, you're gonna need 8.5M+ points whereas before it used to be 6M or so.

[coarse hornet]

Don't forget to activate state gather boost as well as Alliance gather boost.

[haughty raft]

How much did the guy spend to get 1.3 billion points on 1st day of ace? Thousands?

[analog compass]

More than I see in a day

Heck probably more than I see in a month

[coarse hornet]

Last time someone estimated 35k for 1B points?

[haughty raft]

So did they really spend 35k real money or was it stolen cards/hacks?

[fast flower]

It's really money...

[trim flume]

I have a question about the mill… we always pull our mill down 5 mins before reset so everyone can get their points for phase 1. A very experienced player who joined us recently says that pulling down the mill before reset doesn’t help. That you have to actually actively recall your troops for the points to count. Is this really true? He says you have to be online for it to count. That comes as a surprise to me?

[rancid hare]

Surprise to me too. Any rss returned counts. Even if you pull it down.

[ebon linden]

That's not true

[glossy plank]

If someone is close to their final phase rewards, taking down the mill will give them the points, but they have to be online to manually claim the phase rewards.

[trim flume]

Thank you got it 🙏

[prime raven]

Don't speak out too much but adding diamonds accrual to day one of GAC is an absolute farce.
Player has over a billion points on day one and probably hasn't gathered any rss at all, just rich with CC.
Way to crap on the little guys yet again... protect the whales

[lusty stone]

Anyone else not receive their Ace results mail from day 2?

[fast flower]

I got mine

[lusty stone]

Weird. I don't do day 2 on either of my accounts but I always get mails saying I didn't make rewards for that day.

[glossy plank]

If you do 0 points, you don’t get a mail. If you do even a tiny amount, you get a mail.

[lusty stone]

Oh. Weird. I guess I've never noticed

[tropic lake]

Are there different brackets or is it really global? I mean do level 10 HQs really compete against level 40s?

[coarse hornet]

As far as I know, there's "Ace Commander" for the newest states and "Global Ace Commander" for the rest.

[lusty stone]

Like werenarc said, there's "Ace Commmander" for new states. I think there's two of those. Then it opens up to battle division global ace commander. Then it opens up to full global ace commander but I don't know how long that takes.

[lusty stone]

20m is .76%

[glossy plank]

0 points is 0% 🤣🤣🤣

[lusty stone]

technically it's unranked, but it would be 100% if it were ranked.

[glossy plank]

I don’t waste my speedups today. The change from troops to speedups was over 30% point loss for me.

[lusty stone]

It's only 111.1 hours to full points, and you get 9 hours back .

(I think we might have had this discussion last week too 😂)

[glossy plank]

We did. But I’d rather use them on the last day where I get 30%+ more points per speedup

[lusty stone]

I overlapped with showdown speedup and troop might 240 pt quests.

[glossy plank]

And that is without factoring in fast comeback advantage.

I also don’t really care about Ace anymore. I’m focused more on the Improve Might Daily Events.

[lusty stone]

Your state saves fast comeback for ace week?

[glossy plank]

It runs on the last day of ace and lasts through New Development.

[lusty stone]

oh, that's what you're talking about.

[glossy plank]

Yeah, so why waste speedups today when I can get double the points on Sunday?

[lusty stone]

For myself, I still need to focus on Ace. Nam+4, Obsidian+5, Wali+?.

I went a little too hard today though. I could've settled for 5 or 20% lol.

[balmy jacinth]

If anybody got Top 0.5% with the new changes (diamond recharge first day with the last Ace), can you tell me how many points you got?

[glossy plank]

Last ace I heard it was about 175-180m.

[balmy jacinth]

Thanks.

[lusty stone]

16.7m is .84% phase

[slim bronze]

I noticed that ace commanders days are different in new states does anyone have a breakdown for the new states?

[rancid hare]

It's under the old ace. So I know day 4 should be training troops for might and day 6 would be build/train/research. Same as day 7. I also think day 5 might be might up day where you enhance for might and get it.

[lusty stone]

Oops, I always forget ace ends 30 minutes before reset today and I didn't do any training

Oh apparently I did do some training and ended up at 75% for the day. Still managed 10% but I should've been 5% 😦

[arctic hull]

What are the rewards for ace commander top 1%

[frigid latch]

I'm confused about the change notes

Ace Commander: Gather Resources. Reduced the number of points that can be obtained through Diamond spending and implemented a maximum limit on the points that can be earned this way.

How and what is meant by "spending diamonds" for gathering?

[rancid hare]

Day 1. You can buy diamonds for points.

[blissful ledge]

Last two aces saw where buying packs with diamonds in them would grant them 100pts per a diamond

People got end of the week scores on day 1 using this method to get points

[frigid latch]

Is that in the mall? Or the new in event pack?

[blissful ledge]

Any diamond earned from the mall. Doesn’t count the boxed ones.

[frigid latch]

Ok, I guess I was just un aware that was a thing. I prep for gathering day and usually run gathering that entire day, but usually only spend on events, and the gear choice boxes

[rare mantle]

Like they said, it’s new. Only been around for the last two (I think three now) ACE weeks. It’s easy to miss. But yeah I cleared the first day with a lot of points from diamonds alone two weeks ago haha.

[rocky vault]

They could have just given valiant diamond mines instead! Watching the collisions would be fun, listening to the whining would not be though.

[rare mantle]

That was my suggestion. Have the mines.

[rocky vault]

It would certainly give a boost to an otherwise boring non-event. The first few aces were fun, but I find it boring now, and I find it hard to actually find it in me to do anything but bare minimum, if that.
Some days (most?) I log in more for the new content, like the card game, than I do for the same old stuff.

[red yew]

So improving might day in Ace, now is no longer about promoting and enhancing our gear/chip/module anymore?

[rancid hare]

It's about obtaining enhancement and promoters. Not using.

[rare mantle]

Been that way for a few months now

[red yew]

So now we can promote and enhance our gear/chip whenever we want?

Obtaining promoter, so it is the same with gear, chip, and module day?

[fast flower]

Yes

[copper cedar]

@everyone

Hey guys need some clarification. If I start my HQ upgrade now before Ace starts on 2 days will it still count once completed.. Don't wanna have to use all my speedups if I can start 2 days early.

[rancid hare]

It counts when you finish it. Also the everyone tag doesn't work or else@you would be tagging 100k people

[copper cedar]

Thanks for that quick response. I appreciate the help.

[sick osprey]

Anyone got the ace list for this week.. and off week?

[fleet bobcat]

What you mean? Like a schedule? Or a copy and paste version for alliance mail?

[sick osprey]

Both I became r4 and you guys have to get it from some where I been looking in every page here but can't seem to fin it

Is there a page where you put them out or?

[fleet bobcat]

☆ Monday:
-> RSS Gatherer(gather alliance mine, tiles + rare earth+get dias)
-> Start Lucky Spinner/Doomfest + Alliance Trial
-> Nano Weapon(Pts for weapon mats)
☆ Tuesday:
-> Path to Prosperty(research + build day)
☆ Wednesday:
-> Zombie Hunter(spend stam + AP)
-> last day for alliance trial + lucky spinner/doomfest
☆ Thursday:
-> Soldier Trainer(pts for speedup soldier training)
-> Start of Break loose Events + Spec Ops
-> Cube day(pts by getting cube mats)
☆ Friday:
-> Improve Might(pts for getting enhance mat and getting promoters)
☆ Saturday:
-> Advancement(pts using coins in Noahs Tavern, for bio research and modi mats)
-> last day of BL + SpecOps/Start of WK + Strikefirst
☆ Sunday:
-> Ultimate Trial(pts by increase might for build, research + train)
-> Destroyer + Nukaland

Ace week schedule copy and paste version with all events in UTC

Fits in one alliance mail

#🎖ace-commander message
A calender with all events off week and ace week

☆ Monday:
-> Hero Day: Pts getting Hero Fragments
-> Personal Activity: Pts for dailies
☆ Tuesday:
-> Gather Supplies: Pts to gather rss + rare earth
-> New Development: Pts using speedups for research, build + train
-> Glory + Refinement: Pts for get glory + refinement
-> LuckyWheel starts
☆ Wednesday:
-> Gear Day: Pts get gear mats
-> Joy777 Starts
☆ Thursday:
->Army Expansion: pts by increasing army
-> Break loose starts/Last day of LuckyWheel
-> Nova + Module: points for nova ecn + mil. Pts. + getting mods mat
-> Module day: points for mods mats
-> Spec ops
☆ Friday:
-> Chip day: getting pts for chip mat/Last day joy
☆ Saturday:
-> Valiant
-> Bioenhancer: get pts for bio mats
-> Strike first/Last day of BL
-> Scorched earth/dia shop + Dia expert
☆ Sunday:
-> Destroyer/Nuka

Copy paste version fits in alliance mail for off week (no ace week) also in UTC

[sick osprey]

Thanks that's amazing I appreciate it

[fleet bobcat]

In the pins of the event channels you will find also a lot useful stuff

Like hints how to make faster and cheaper points and calculations

[fleet bobcat]

You are welcome 😊🌼

[sick osprey]

That's great thank you

[fast flower]

Hmmmmmm interesting 🤔

[willow bloom]

To me it seems like it’s become how Can the devs get more money from people and not how can we make the game enjoyable. Sad really.

[rancid hare]

This is a reduction in money that they received in the past two aces

[fast flower]

It's a nice reduction that's like what 24k diamonds

[rancid hare]

That's a massive reduction tbh

[fast flower]

Yes I agree. Max 1.2m points will keep ace decent

[red yew]

Is stealing in pit also count for points in gather day? Or just those that we gather?

The amount that we steal is what I mean

[glossy plank]

Just the gather amount. But stealing counts for Trials of Survival.

[lusty stone]

5.4m is 1.43%

I feel like they fixed the buy diamonds points adequately.
1.2m point cap and they halved the points per diamond (down to 50 each from 100 each).

There's no insane billion+ point players on day 1. Highest is currently 14m

[fast flower]

Yeah it feels way more balanced now

[rancid hare]

Bamor back on top 🍻

[lusty stone]

Nice little boon for those of us that spend (not megawhale $30k+) without being a huge bane for those that don't.

[lusty stone]

6m is 1.11% 😦

[vestal shore]

What is next ace commander event?

[lusty stone]

Build & research

Also,

6.25m is 1.25%

[fast flower]

That's still better than last ace week by a bunch

[lusty stone]

Yep just sad I'm missing it by a quarter of a percent :/

[cerulean meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/hes-back-gif-8275005

[rancid hare]

😍

[blissful jay]

Should we not have received the mail by now saying how we ranked in gathering?

Never mind…it just got sent

[rancid hare]

Yeah sometimes takes a long time

[fast flower]

Today took super long

[lusty stone]

It took 31 minutes for me to receive mine.

[analog compass]

I feel like most of the mail letting you know your ranking has been taking a very long time

[lusty stone]

My nanoweapon mail came quickly.

[red parcel]

What is The rest if Ace task schedule?

[glossy plank]

Several copies of the schedule in the pins on this channel

[gloomy wigeon]

Is it better to train a whole bunch of t8s tomorrow for training speed up or the weekend I need someone good at math🤣

[fast flower]

Since it's speedup day I only train t1s and promote. Save big troop making for the 7th day

[glossy plank]

I don’t waste my speedups today.

[gloomy wigeon]

Keep in mind im a hq never going to upgrade from 24 so saving speeds for a higher purpose like building t11s or something aint going to happen 🤣🤣

[glossy plank]

My math on t9s is 30% more points per speedup on the last day, excluding any fastcoming back additional advantage

[gloomy wigeon]

Ooof math 🤣

With the state boost and popping a 30% training speed up it takes about 15 hours to craft 2270 t8s

I know what days are what are posted but I can't find like point totals🤣

[glossy plank]

@gloomy wigeon

[glossy plank]

Max bootcamps, max nova training speed, apex magnum.

[gloomy wigeon]

Done done and sadly only epic

[glossy plank]

I meant those were factors in my math 🤣

[gloomy wigeon]

Oops🤣

[glossy plank]

You can use that chart to approximate your own math, but I’m guessing you are still 15-20% more points per speedup on the last day.
I know rss is as little of a factor for you as it is for me 🤣

[gloomy wigeon]

I stopped looking at my bag when I saw it go over 10b food🤣

[glossy plank]

I’m not that deep, but definitely comfortable.

[gloomy wigeon]

And t8s are pretty cheap

[gloomy wigeon]

Do u get the full points from promoting them for sunday

[fast flower]

No reason I do promoting on speedup day. And make new troops on the 7th day

Making new troops on saturday/Sunday reset has more value there getting the full might amount

[dim flower]

So todays event troop speeds is best to train low or promote ? And last day speed event is best to make your highest tier ?

Is there any advantage to training low and then promoting ?

[glossy plank]

I do nothing today 🤷‍♂️

[dim flower]

I just go until I get phase rewards

I need less than 90 nam frags for +7 and I don’t think I’ll get .5% or 1% again this ace as I went hard last ace and got it without spending a penny

[glossy plank]

I save all speedups for the last day. Way more bang for speedups

[dim flower]

That’s what I normally do but I need all frags I can get seeing as I won’t get another large amount from global ranking this ace

[glossy plank]

The twins are a better return than Nam could ever be

[dim flower]

Maybe I’ll stick top 5%-3%

Yeah but my twins just got to +3 because I was focusing phoenix to +8 which I finished not that long ago

Once nam gets +7 I’ll focus twins so they can replace mars I got behind on hero’s I stopped playing for a year 🤣

[lusty stone]

Last day is might or speedup? I always forget.

[dim flower]

So all the new Herod are super low

[glossy plank]

Might.

[lusty stone]

Boo. I want to rearrange my economy buildings, guess I'll wait til new development.

[glossy plank]

+6 twins is better than +8 phoenix 🤷‍♂️

[dim flower]

But like I said before longevity of having +8 now vs waiting all the time to get twins to +6 is better seeing as she’s so low currently

And I got phoenix max apex weapon

[glossy plank]

I think you are seeing it backwards. You get more return for less faster by focusing on the twins. You can do what you want, but it isnt cost efficient

[dim flower]

Well no my pheonix was already super close to +8 and now has been for a while my twins only just got to +3

So in the end I get more damage and better stuff in the now with what the phoenix maxed gives while I work on twins

[glossy plank]

I’m talking about focusing on nam over the twins.

[dim flower]

Well I’m sorta doing both just getting her +7 cuz she’s so close I’m already staying 1% this cube event for twins

I should be able to have her at least +5 soon

Need 23 more frags to make twins +4

[coarse hornet]

For march maybe but not for match-3, IMO.

[glossy plank]

Love the twins in match 3. When they are on my side. Does better damage than phoenix more often than not. And is immune to phoenix’s burn.

[coarse hornet]

Maybe it's different play style. Phoenix never leaves my lineup. I rarely use the Twins.

[glossy plank]

How is phoenix doing in arena this week for you? 🤣

[coarse hornet]

I'll just have to wait until the Twins are banned to reply. 😛

[glossy plank]

This lineup has been serving me well this week.

[rocky vault]

I hate Lora & Jessie in match 3! I'm dead in one when they're in the line up

[rancid hare]

Use lady m on her

[rocky vault]

Maybe on Sunday since that's the only time I can rank for 5 mins! The rest of the week I flee.

[rancid hare]

I won't lie to you. Don't waste your time with arena.

[rocky vault]

Lol. Only on Sunday, lol. Other days I flee 5 times.

[glacial minnow]

Is there a schedule of events for Ace commander?

If so whats coming up on Friday?

[fast flower]

Check the pins

[glacial minnow]

Where

[rancid hare]

#🎖ace-commander message

[glacial minnow]

Thank you 🌹

[leaden nacelle]

Hi guys.. tomorrow is bio research right? No points from prison trial?!.. i always forget

[rancid hare]

#🎖ace-commander message

[rare mantle]

You get points from the enhancers you win in PT

#🎖ace-commander message

[gleaming pier]

Are you sure? I thought it was only from research

[rare mantle]

Do you get points from enhancers?

[gleaming pier]

I don't think so

[rare mantle]

Hm

I don’t remember getting points from doing research itself but the enhancers it gave me

[gleaming pier]

Well, yeah, it's from whatever you get on the research, but I'm almost sure PT doesn't give points

[rare mantle]

Mmmm I’ll test it at reset

[lusty stone]

It's bioenhancer research only.

[leaden nacelle]

Yes it's research only.. thanks everyone!

[fallen crown]

Tomorrow Ace event what that

[lusty stone]

Recruit, bio research, modifiers

[glossy plank]

Yes, it is like the hero points, you get points for using coins, not obtaining heroes. You get points for using bio research, not obtaining shards

[limpid niche]

I haven’t updated it to include the latest changes to Gathering and Advancement. But it’s still the general point system and schedule.

[strong owl]

Olá bom dia alguém aqui me pode prestar um esclarecimento?
Como funciona as classificações do comandante às?
É mundial ou funciona por grupos formados em relação ao poder e ao nível de QG?

[cinder basin]

Creo que es mundial

[rare mantle]

há divisões de batalha

[strong owl]

Obrigada pelo esclarecimento

[strong owl]

Gracias Ártemis

[balmy jacinth]

Here's an even faster way than fleeing, put one 3* hero in your ATK lineup and Auto-Battle. It'll die to one hit and it's only one click (Auto-Battle) versus 2 (Flee and Confirm).

[rocky vault]

I know 😄

[lusty stone]

That's what I do 🙂

[lone sable]

They don’t want people saving anything anymore 🤣🤣

[crude aurora]

What day is hero upgrade? Want to speed up a tonne, but waiting for it.

[glossy plank]

Check the several pinned schedules on this channel

[ebon linden]

It's on Mondays in off-Ace week, but please check the pims as Hillside says. Alot of useful information and answers to frequently asked questions

[lusty stone]

Do we know what this means?

[glossy plank]

Not for sure. My suspicion is “Commander Series”.
The single day events (like Cube Day) are called “Improve Might Series”, but there is no indicator on there….

[wind cradle]

Telling you where to direct all complaints 😅

[humble pulsar]

I think is means Competitive Spending

[rare mantle]

[grizzled saffron]

What is Day 6 now for ACE?

I feel like it changes everytime but I could be wrong. I’m still new

I AM GROOT.

[rocky vault]

📍
Use Noah coins

[grizzled saffron]

Ok, thank you. So just Noah coins? No modifications and bioenhancers? Or those count too.

[rocky vault]

2nd pin has a copy/paste version. Yes, bio research counts.

[grizzled saffron]

Thank you!

[fleet bobcat]

Anyone knows how much points for ace 1% is?

[rancid hare]

I'm at .5% with 105m currently

[rare mantle]

Oh no

[rancid hare]

I expect to drop

[glossy plank]

About 120m

[lusty stone]

What's usually top 5% overall? I'm at 54m at 4.36% but I'm sure that's not going to hold.

[rancid hare]

Im at 1.04% now 105m

[sour flicker]

Does the 300% have changed with last update? To rebuild 2130 t11 , it cost me 19h with the 300% , in place of 1day 5h, so don't look it is working very well..

[lusty stone]

What did it usually do?

[sour flicker]

7h

[acoustic mica]

Anyone within 1%? I'm at 104m and keep falling out

[lusty stone]

^

[lusty stone]

I just want to make 5%. That'll finally give me +4 Nam for that dang nano boost lol.

[glossy plank]

About 80-85m in the last few.

[lusty stone]

Ew.

[lusty stone]

58.5m is 4.17% with 30 minutes left.

[lusty stone]

4.34% with 6 minutes left.

Finished 4.45%.

[silent sparrow]

At one time we could get full points for promoting troops versus the difference now in Ace train or might day events, correct?

[rare mantle]

Yes, you used to be able to

[silent sparrow]

Did that also apply for Showdown or just Ace events?

[rare mantle]

It was all of them at one point

[silent sparrow]

That’s what I thought

I used to use it in Ace all the time. Not so much showdown. Thank you!

[jovial kernel]

So just to clarify- speedups are no longer used for points for either build day. Both Tuesday and Sunday are points by might

[fast flower]

Speedups never counted for Tuesday or Sunday

training speedup that's the only speedup in ace week

[jovial kernel]

👀 ur telling me when ace was ultimate for Saturday and Sunday, one of the build/research/train days didn’t give points for speedups?

[fast flower]

Never ever gave points

For speedups it was just might

[jovial kernel]

Lmao. Jeebus. No wonder I suck at ace 🤦‍♀️

I really should have been a shooter 😅

[fast flower]

I just wait till new development on offweek I rock at speedups lol

[jovial kernel]

Ya me too lol

[fast flower]

Us shooters are the best 🤣

[jovial kernel]

Rank every week 😂. But I’m a rider…. And I used to be able to get 3% with zero effort and no hoarding necessary. Now I’ve resorted to using perfects for the last obsidian frags I need and actually having to think about this stuff

[fast flower]

I think that's due to them adding the spending aspect to day 1. Ace I used to rank 5 percent without trying till we got more activeness with it and I'm a shooter lol

[patent ledge]

CS=Cross Server
i think

[azure moat]

Commander series

[humble pulsar]

Competitive Spending

[rare mantle]

You already made this joke once, grandpa.

[humble pulsar]

Shush

[rare mantle]

No!

[rare mantle]

Just for reference, I ended up at like 0.34% with 175m

[balmy jacinth]

Someone needs to tell Kuma to quit busting the curve. He's on an even faster growing curve than ichi.

[rare mantle]

Go right on ahead

[winter kernel]

You troop type matters on ace?

[balmy jacinth]

Troop Tier matters more. If you're training fresh T10s, you get full points. But if you promote from T9 to T10, the game substracts the difference and awards you points.

[fast flower]

Not that I matters but I don't focus something no useful for my troop main.

[winter kernel]

Right.. I only train fighters for training days

[winter kernel]

I guess I just didn't get this.. idk

[balmy jacinth]

I think she means more players in the game are Riders, so it'd give her a Troop Advantage.

[jovial kernel]

Because riders get their heroes from ace…. Shooters get theirs from off week

I do great off week. And horrible on ace

[winter kernel]

Ahh ok.. that makes sense now

[jovial kernel]

Lol. I read it and was like- wtf was I talking about 😅

[lusty stone]

Wait is ace by battle division now or is it just coincidence that the top 3 are all from s600+?

Appears to be by division. Just looked on my 581 commander and the top 3 are all in the 500s