🎖ace-commander

[tough dock]

When does the next ace Commander begin?

[rare mantle]

Today at reset

It’s every other week

[crude shadow]

Thxs for reminding me even though I don't have the resources to participate lol

[delicate heath]

I saw about update coming, when ace commander event is happening every minutes matters to some players to be able to get points for event. Would an update be better before or after event so players don't have down time that they aren't able to get on during ace?

[rare mantle]

It’s honestly not going to be that huge of an impact, so I wouldn’t worry. Most veteran players don’t even start to really participate until Day 3/Day 4. I basically ignore the first 2 days. You have a lot of time to make up points. Majority of points come from days 5, 6, and 7, and in the last couple of hours of days 6 and 7 for sure.

[delicate heath]

I usually get out to a nice start then last 2 days usually knock me out of top 20% total but usually with certain phases I consume a lot of speedups to finish phase rewards

[rare mantle]

Yeah, it’s because a lot of people don’t do much or anything the first couple of days. Many focus all of their efforts on the last 3. Especially with WK, people will train lots of troops to replace the ones they lost. So if you’re not keeping up, you will get pushed out. I recommend not to blow all your speed ups too early in the week.

[delicate heath]

I keep construction and research speedups for last 2 days and use general speedups during construction and research phase because get tons of them from campaign levels because replay a lot of levels to get blue books for evolving heroes. Thank you for your input

[jagged wigeon]

Have a question? How come this is the first event of Ace commander and my phase rank says 2.74% but my overall says 11.67% shouldn't they be the same?

[fast flower]

No.

I'm 0.97% on one and 4% on global it never is balanced for me

[jagged wigeon]

I am just saying it it the first day....so they should be the same. Yes?

[rare mantle]

No because the overall is ranking you out of all of the days

Today is just ranking you for 1 single event

It’s been 1 day but it’s dividing it by all the days

[jagged wigeon]

Yes, and it is day #1

[rare mantle]

Yes. Divided by all days.

[fast flower]

Also think one is global so thats alot of people if im thinking correctly

[rare mantle]

So your rank will be lower because you don’t have a lot of points after 1 day when taken in proportion to all days.

It’s 1/7 vs. 1/1

[fast flower]

That also makes sense lol

[jagged wigeon]

That makes no sense......

[glossy plank]

Because the floor for ranking is different. For the phase you are ranked in comparison to everyone over 200k points.
In the overall you are ranked against only players over 1m points, which will be a lot less, so your percentage rank wont be as high
See the Green Numbers showing the base for ranking.

[jagged wigeon]

Ok..hillside now that makes sense...the 200,000 players vs. The players over 1 mil

Points wise that is

Gotcha

[glossy plank]

Yup, just math 👍

[jagged wigeon]

👍

[near grail]

do troop chips, adding upgrading add to ace might day pts?

[rancid hare]

If I recall yes. Just the enhancing part.

[near grail]

thank you

[bold umbra]

No, troop chips arent value, asaik

[rancid hare]

Enchaning and promoting counts. I had to check lol

Obtaining the materials doesn’t count

[bold umbra]

Not for troop chips. St least if was like that

[rancid hare]

It’s always been like this. That’s how i get our points at least.

Even did last ace for it

[bold umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-candiace-dillard-bassett-real-housewives-of-potomac-rhop-shookt-gif-17996102

[analog compass]

There were a few weeks in a row where the only reason I got points on might day was because of troop chip upgrading

[fathom flax]

Does anyone happen to have a ss of the points breakdown for enhance day?

[limpid niche]

There’s a chart in the pins! 😆

[fathom flax]

Sorry when I checked pins earlier it said no pins in this channel

What do promoter 2s fall under because aren't they depicted as 6*

[glossy plank]

No points for obtaining any promoters during Ace. That is why they arent on the list.

[fathom flax]

Could've sworn I have gotten points for them in ace before

[glossy plank]

Nope. You get the Might Increase from using promoters, but not for getting them. The single day events and Break Loose do give points for obtaining promoters.

[fathom flax]

Not trying to be problematic but I think you might be wrong but I could also be wrong

[glossy plank]

You are wrong. It is ok 🤣

[fathom flax]

Could've sworn I always got pts for obtaining them

[rare mantle]

You get them for enhancements only. Not obtaining promoters. Promise.

[rancid hare]

Every other event. Like for break loose and gear day. Would get points for promoters. Ace is just might up. Obtaining enchaning material. And gear refiners

[tough dock]

Forgive me if this has been asked before, for the training day of Ace Commander, what's the points per minute difference between upgrading troops versus training them from scratch? I do know it's a whole lot less time but less points when you upgrade troops

[vague jacinth]

Upgrading is basically the difference between the two tiers. Both in time, resources and ace points. So if building one T9 costs 10seconds, and building one t10 costs 15 seconds, upgrading will cost 5 (all made up numbers btw). Same with resources and points. I did the math today because I always suspected it worked like that but someone said differently the other day.

[vague jacinth]

I have now tried to calculate points/sec. With my numbers upgrading t9 > 10 is 4.11 points per second and training t10 is 4.31 points per second. **BUT! This is all rounding errors. ** If I train one t10 truck it takes 25 seconds. Train 2: 51 seconds. 100 takes 2551 seconds.
In other words, it doesn't matter.

[tough dock]

Wonderful. I have been meaning to do the same as well but I keep forgetting before I start a 12+ hour train

[vague jacinth]

Yeah I get it. It's been on my 'slow workday' list for a while now

Upgrading is cheaper than training obviously, especially if you are only upgrading one tier. Because you already spent the resources to get it where it's at.

[meager radish]

Does this mean upper or lower 21%?

[humble pulsar]

Upper. As in you are in the top 21.02% spot and 78.98% have less points than you

[meager radish]

Thank you @humble pulsar

[humble pulsar]

You're welcome

[velvet hare]

Well its actually cheaper rss wise to train T1s and then upgrade to your highest tier, than to train your highest tier directly

[rancid hare]

I just train. Usually I run out of speedups before rss 😂😂

[glossy plank]

Are you sure? I haven’t checked math in a while, but I had found it cost more rss and time to train t1s and promote than to simply train new t9s

[velvet hare]

Yep, some guys did the math, i can try to find the screenshots. But obviously time is something to consider as well

[rancid hare]

Does this factor in training speeds and cost reductions and buffs

Upkeep could be lower

[glossy plank]

And most importantly to me at the time I last did the math is that promoting cost 30% more time and rss for the same Event Points (Ace, BL, Training Day).

[rancid hare]

Then if you participate and get state buffs for wk

I only do minimum for training day

My training speed is 473%

I just make T11. Not wasting Time or speedups making anything else to promote.

And get less points

[vague jacinth]

I'll share my numbers tomorrow. For real, upgrade costs are the difference between the two tiers. Any difference you see is so small it's just rounding errors.

[rancid hare]

Your spending more speedups making troops the. Promoting

[paper locust]

Why I never upgrade. I train t1 for dailies and 10s the rest of the time. Anything that’s a lower tier stays there.

[vague jacinth]

Damn you mean you have a bunch of t2-t9 units doing nothing?

[paper locust]

Nope. Just a ton of t1 and a couple random 2-9’s…. Whatever hasn’t been killed off.

A couple of previous states over the past 2 years had bully issues so I’ve had to rebuild troops from scratch a couple times….

[vague jacinth]

Upgrading units is less expensive than building t10 directly. Let me get to work first. Hopefully I will have another slow day

[vague jacinth]

@paper locust @velvet hare Here are my numbers for t1 vehicles. As you can see the difference is minimal and almost certainly caused by all the rounding up and down the game does when it shows rss needed. I mean, if you train 1 t1 truck it shows 23 food. Set it to two trucks and it says 45. This game deals with so many percentages nothing is a properly rounded number behind what we actually see. So my advice is to upgrade when you can, but if you don't have anything to upgrade just train new. Because if you start with t1 and press auto speed up you either have to wait somewhere between 30 sec and 4 minutes or spend another 5min speed up. And then the same happens when you upgrade.

[velvet hare]

Thank you for sharing ✨

[edgy lily]

My "best" ace ever 😂🙃

Dont know why but i forgot that this week is ace lol

[analog compass]

Lol

The training boost has popped me into a decent position

[solemn wraith]

Strangely I'm in a very good position this time....just checking sometimes to see if I'm still there

[edgy lily]

Oh lol i alao forgot that

[edgy lily]

https://tenor.com/view/tyra-banks-hair-flip-sass-gif-5363134

[solemn wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/lmao-spit-take-cracking-up-haha-so-funny-omg-gif-17921247

[balmy quest]

I notice that the ace cmdr global ranking failed to work accurately in the last minute. I kept refreshing made sure I was ranking at 0.48% yet it finally slips to 1%
It's frustrating because I bought an extra 50$ pack to maintain in 0.5%. I did have extra speed ups to burn but was misled by the ranking.
Felt like I wasted my money.

In the past the ranking has been updating pretty accurately. It's disappointing.

[fast flower]

It's resets once every hour the last bit till it ace ends usually is weird for me personally

[balmy quest]

The instruction says update every hour but it used to update real time. There was no problem depending on this ranking.
But not this time : (

[rancid hare]

First time getting the bride

[rare mantle]

Congrats

I have never used mine

[rancid hare]

I just did haha

[fast flower]

Very nice. Congrats

[balmy quest]

Congrats

[fast flower]

I got top 5% getting nam at +5 and red starred lol

[balmy quest]

I think the game should be more serious about this ranking. Many depend on this thing to strategize their pack purchasing. It's real money here
I bought the 50$ pack for the diamond recharge + 20 more hero frags + bride figure. It's a good deal if it worked.
Now it's a waste.

[rare mantle]

The ranking has always updated every hour

It’s been at the top

[balmy quest]

I know the instruction. But it used to update real time and was pretty accurate.
I've used it to race the last mile for top 0.5% many times. No problems in the past.
Updating every hour makes zero sense given that all the competitions in this game are so fierce in the last minute.

[glossy plank]

You have to consider you have several hundred thousand other players all looking at the same rankings you are and pushing. Being that close to the cutoff is guaranteed to lead you to disappointment.

[rancid hare]

I didn’t spend any money. Just a lot of speed ups for military 2

[solemn wraith]

I feel you, woke up this morning at 1% 😭😭😭

[balmy quest]

Thank you Micene, I was even looking at the ranking yet still slipped out. Can’t forgive it : (

[solemn wraith]

There will be a next time 💪💪

[dusky grove]

Does anyone have screenshot or details of each phase rewards in ace commander the 1 that start in a new state

[rare mantle]

@sleek willow and there is one also pinned to #🗓regular-events if you just want the days and other events as well

[sleek willow]

Ty

[white remnant]

What we have to do in ace commander?

[rancid hare]

Each day is a different event. But at the end all the points add up for a global ranking

[white remnant]

I hope i will get something in end will be my first time 😇

[rancid hare]

There is a good outline in the pins

[rancid hare]

Save everything. When your not doing ace.

Makes it easier.

Promoting troops on training day and the last two days gives a lot of points. So save speed ups.

[white remnant]

Okay 👌

[rancid hare]

Good luck

[rare mantle]

@white remnant some advice

[white remnant]

Thank you 💗

[paper locust]

Does anyone remember what the line up is for first ace in new state

[rancid hare]

It’s the same line up in all states.

There’s a pin that outlines it

[paper locust]

Thanks

[limpid yoke]

Can mods propose to game dev to include zephr / phoenix as ace commander hero rewards?

Riders have an unfair advantage in ace commander.

[solemn wraith]

You can suggest that in #💭closed-game-suggestions, but I'll put it in my report =).

[limpid yoke]

Thank you so much , that would help , i feel this would further balance the rider vs other troop types.

[vague jacinth]

Wasn't zeph in ace way back when?

[rancid hare]

Yeah. Way way way long ago

Like at the start

[vague jacinth]

Damn I've been playing for too long haha
But j doubt they'll bring him back then.

[coarse hornet]

Seems like an easy solution would be to swap the Hero card rewards every other Ace.

[rancid hare]

But they have a solution. Every other week you can get zephyr

[fast flower]

Just as a one straight shot instead of ranking over a week period. It would be interesting to do the same as ace for offweek but I quite enjoy each week being different 👀

[humble pulsar]

The issue I see arising if we swap out hero cards ace rewards is then what happens on the off weeks? If you swap them for each other than you will have 2 weeks of the same cards followed by 2 weeks of the other cards.

It would be better if they just did the off week like ace week and had your points accumulate over the week of events imo.

[fast flower]

I honestly hate ace and prefer the way off week is reason I don't complain much about it. Ace I passively place without trying and save rss for others

[humble pulsar]

I'm not a fan of either. I burn all my RSS and don't rank for both 😂

[fast flower]

I'm a hoarder only pop for ace if it lines up with break loose

[glossy plank]

Maybe because I don’t prioritize it, but I’m typically able to do much better in Ace than the off week.

[fast flower]

I do better in off week than ace🤣 but these past 2 I've been doing higher in ace than normal cause ya know mil 2 and Gathering lol

[glossy plank]

I think what I like best about Ace is that the rankings are transparent and not hidden.

I know exactly where I am at any given point and am able to consistently find the right balance to either push or not with a pretty solid idea of what will be required to reach my goal.

[fast flower]

I think what helps in general with both weeks is proper hoarding so if you know what your going for that hoarding and ranking process in general is easy imo but I kinda know watcha mean. Ace is more needy for me even though I want nam

[glossy plank]

I’m on the long road now of taking Nam fron +7 to +8, but haven’t done a good job planning for ace the last couple rounds.

[humble pulsar]

I can't hoard. I can save for a short while but never been good at hording

[fast flower]

I'm headed to 500 lair boxes was at 350 last I calculated. 500 is my max limit

[glossy plank]

One of my farms hasnt opened a lair box. Ever. 😳

[fast flower]

😳 😳

[glossy plank]

🤔

[humble pulsar]

I can't do that. Nope, never happen

[fast flower]

I want this stash

[humble pulsar]

I'm doing really good if I can save 50 😂

[glossy plank]

Wish I could use it on my main
One day I’ll get fed up and waste it all on a single Ace, or something even dumber 🤣🤣

[rare mantle]

I was proud of having 23 lvl 43 boxes

[analog compass]

I've got 62 lvl 44 boxes

I had a lot more but I cracked them

[humble pulsar]

That's all I have ATM 😂

[rancid hare]

About what mine looks like now

[fast flower]

This is mine👀

[rancid hare]

Oh hey the 1 day skin too lol

[fast flower]

I honestly didn't know I had it till I screenshot this😂 🤣

[golden epoch]

Why am I only getting 15 pts/unit when I train from 6-7?

[limpid niche]

Cause that’s not considered training. But “promoting”.

[golden epoch]

🤔

I was just curious because when you click to collect them it says T7 training complete

That led me to believe it would count

[limpid niche]

Yup. I thought so too at the start 🤣 … and was being all calculating on how many to promote…. Then was sadly mistaken 🤦🏻‍♀️

[golden epoch]

They definitely pulled one on us!

[rancid hare]

You get the difference. Or something close to it when you promote. The training amount they show is fresh units. Since you already have them at 6. Won’t give the full points as if they were new

[hard vector]

Regarding the expected update on Ace Commander:

3. Ace Commander
   • Supreme Power -> Improve Might
   • Point Obtaining:
   Previously: Pushing record high CP, obtaining Essence or Gear Refiners.
   New: Obtaining promotion materials or Essence.

What is Essence?

[analog compass]

Probably enhancing material. Could be an odd translation

[rancid hare]

Maybe for the hq skins

[hard vector]

4. Global Ace Commander now consists of 7 minor events. Points requirement and reward are adjusted.

• Thursday: Soldier Trainer. Points requirement adjusted from training units of a specific tier to using training speedups.
• Friday: Supreme Power is adjusted to Improve Might.
Point Obtaining:
Previously: Pushing record high CP, obtaining enhancement materials or Gear Refiners
New: Obtaining promotion and enhancement materials
• Weekend events:
Saturday: Advancement. Points can be earned from recruiting heroes and obtaining modification items.
Sunday: Ultimate Trial
• Faster speed to earn speed via resource gathering (Rare Earth included), construction, research, Stamina and AP consumption.

Wait, does this mean troop training can only be done on Thursdays of the AC week?

[rancid hare]

Maybe they took it from Sunday.

Where does it say that?

[hard vector]

I mean there’s no mention of training on either Saturday or Sunday

[rancid hare]

Currently the weekend event is called ultimate trial. That looks like it’s still Sunday

[hard vector]

Sunday: Ultimate Trial
• Faster speed to earn speed via resource gathering (Rare Earth included), construction, research, Stamina and AP consumption.

Could be that training can still be done. Just that faster speed for points obtaining doesn’t apply to it?

[rancid hare]

In just my opinion I think we can still train. Also on Thursday we get points for using speed ups

[limpid niche]

!! What’s New as of August 2022 !!

• Supreme Power -> Improve Might

• Point Obtaining:
Previously: Pushing record high CP, obtaining Enhancers or Gear Refiners. !! New: !! Obtaining promotion materials or enhancers.

Global Ace Commander now consists of 7 minor events
Points requirement and reward are adjusted:

• Thursday: Soldier Trainer. Points requirement adjusted from training units of a specific tier to using training speedups.

• Friday: Supreme Power is adjusted to Improve Might.
Point Obtaining:
Previously: Pushing record high CP, obtaining enhancement materials or Gear Refiners
!! New:!! Obtaining promotion and enhancement materials

•Saturday: Advancement. Points can be earned from recruiting heroes and obtaining modification items.

• Sunday: Ultimate Trial

—————

Faster speed to earn speed via resource gathering (Rare Earth included), construction, research, Stamina and AP consumption.

[rare mantle]

I think that’s an error when they copied over the patch notes from PnC

[cyan quail]

Faster speed to earn speed... Is that even English?

A lot of the wording of this new patch has me reading it 10 times over still puzzled.

[median glen]

It’s a little confusing. But seems like no more points for improving might? Break loose one is gone too I think? Kinda bummed I’d get decent points for that ace day

[hard vector]

I think they meant it to be "faster speed to earn points." But yeah, I agree with your point.

[glossy plank]

That is the current understanding, but not absolutely certain 😥😥

[crude apex]

Only a couple of months into the game. So now the ace commander gear day (friday) is no longer tied to record high might?? So I can use my 10,000 gear/chip/module enhancers? I am a tad confused reading that. What is CP?

[rancid hare]

Honestly we’re all slightly confused in away.

[glossy plank]

CP is refering to Commander High (likely just bad translated acronym). We don’t have any more details than what has so far been posted. Next Ace will be a learning curve

[crude apex]

Yes very curious about that. I will save material and boxes until next ace. I wonder if this applies to the off week ace events too because I thought there was a might event as well.

[glossy plank]

No, the only might increses were Ace Might Day and Break Loose Improve Might phase

[cyan quail]

I know right. From all these ace changes it's really gunna put me off of ace and I normally do it every single time... They should be fixing the game not fkn with things that already work perfectly.

Nixing might day and break loose is a mistake for real.

[summer elk]

Hi guys, anyone at 3% and 0.5% can tell me the points please

[glossy plank]

Recently it has been about 60m and 110m respectively.

[summer elk]

Thank you, a little far from what I wanted 😂

[lilac tundra]

The updates to ace still make it a useless evemt if youre not rider based. Should win obsidian phoenix or zepher. All 3 and their weapons class specific

[rancid hare]

When ace first started it was zephyr lol. At the beginning.

[rare mantle]

Nam is kind of a game changer for a lot of shooters. She’s not useless at all. Her weapon is key. And Atropos is really useful. She wasn’t passive when they put her in ACE.

[bronze umbra]

I was curious about this update. Hopefully theyll put an updated schedule before ace begins. If there's no training for the weekend the 300% training boost from wk is going to tough figuring we are going to have to use speedups on Thursday rather than training specific troops

[cyan quail]

Tbh it looks like a mess. Ace is one of my favs. It looks like they are going to ruin it... The update wording is pretty sketchy. Cross your fingers and hope for the best.... No idea why they even felt the need to mess with something perfect...

[solemn wraith]

That's true, since when I upgraded her and put her in my shooter line, I had more % on lairs and great results against the destroyer.

[cyan quail]

Most of the wording has me puzzled. Iv read it many times and I'm still confused. Lol

[craggy galleon]

im working on 6ing her atm so i can put her in my lineup but it’s slow going 😫

[cyan quail]

YESSSSS.

[craggy galleon]

this is the first time i’ve actually struggled to understand patch notes

[cyan quail]

It would be nice if the post up a new schedule for the ace. Gotta get it on our discord.

[craggy galleon]

the wording is very ambiguous and obviously poorly translated in places

[cyan quail]

Agreed. Most of it looks suspect AF.

Couldn't tell if they are nixing might break loose. Kinda looked like they said that too.

Balancing rewards could be good or a horrible idea.

Yea kinda pissed they took might break loose.away.... like why? I'd like answers of wtf they are thinking.

Might break loose.is easy for smaller players to score some Leah frags...

I'm taking a good break after I get Leah to +6. 25 more frags. Woot woot.

[craggy galleon]

im at like 40/200 for +7

this week sucked ass for break loose events too

[cyan quail]

It's a long haul.... +7 is gunna kill me lol

[craggy galleon]

so many build or research ones

[cyan quail]

Yessss. I got back sht this week.

Later.

[craggy galleon]

i get yelled at on here for being off topic all the time it’s part of my charm 😂

[rancid hare]

“Charm”

[cyan quail]

It is proper.to stay on topic... I just hope the changes to ace will make it easier for smaller players

[rancid hare]

They should have a break loose channel

[cyan quail]

Agreed

[solemn wraith]

👀 Maybe a third time can do it.. 😂

[rancid hare]

I’m glad I just finished ob +8

[cyan quail]

Woot woot.

[rancid hare]

Don’t have to stress to much about being above .05%

[cyan quail]

I'm stuck in UC235 where I need Obs and nam frags.. grinding the ace is a challenge.

[rancid hare]

Yeah I had to get nam to +4 for that one

[craggy galleon]

im trying to work on both nam and atropos at the same time which is a struggle

[rancid hare]

Yeah

[cyan quail]

Ooohhh nam+3, Obs+4, Mars+6, ulrick+8, Samual+4

The struggle is real.

I'm not even rider. Lol

[craggy galleon]

basically resigned myself to only making top 5-10% until i can do big upgrades and builds when i do my hq30

[cyan quail]

I got my hq35 cooking. 31 days.

[rancid hare]

Above 1% or doesn’t count

[cyan quail]

Original was 91

[rancid hare]

Is it

[craggy galleon]

when i do my hq30 ill be doing my shooter camp and a couple other big builds immediately too

[cyan quail]

Off topic. Anyhow thanks for the chat. Cross our fingers and toes it's for the better.

[craggy galleon]

different states reopen at different times

[cyan quail]

Tapping my fingers waiting...

[craggy galleon]

mines reopened too now

[hard vector]

CS confirmed for me that we can train troops only on Thursday from now on. (It won’t be included in Ultimate Trial.) Could mods please double check this for us?

[wind cradle]

If That’s the case then it is the opposite of PNC 😅😅 Thursday is training speed up use only and Sunday (Ultimate Trial) is Build / Research / Train as current ACE

[glossy plank]

Don’t trust CS to “confirm” anything. Especially things that haven’t happened yet.

[near vector]

Sunday Ultimate Trial wording is very confusing "Faster speed to earn speed via resource gathering (Rare Earth included), construction, research, Stamina and AP consumption."
Huh?

[limpid niche]

It’s why I haven’t posted the revisions of any of my charts 🤦🏻‍♀️ unless it’s confirmed in-game it doesn’t mean anything and will just confuse more people.

[glossy oxide]

Yes so dang vague its ridiculous, then when we see it we ask questions and Mods are not sure also ask CS they give u the same old copy and paste nonsense.

for Break Loose events says.. "Pushing Record high Might is no longer earning points"?????

[wind cradle]

As confusing as it is in the notes (and the placement right below ultimate trial doesn’t help), that is a separate point to tell you about changes to those particular parts for ACE and not related to ultimate trial. My expectations is that Ultimate Trial will be as currently on Sunday.

[rancid hare]

I agree. But wording is weird

[stoic meadow]

i think the problem is that you guys make and update and when asked for clarification about it , you guys don't even know what going on which is ridiculous. How is it that something that is already updated is not confirmed yet ? 🤯

[rancid hare]

Ace event hasn’t happened yet. That’s how it hasn’t been confirmed

[glossy plank]

Well no one here is a developer or works for PNS. 99% of the information that mods get is what is posted already and shared many times over. As a best case we get that information a few hours before it is released, but even that doesn’t happen often.
So experienced players and mods are doing their best to provide guidance based on what has been done in the past, what has been done on other games by the same company, and sometimes that 1% of other information that makes anymore sense than what was posted.
There is an expectation that players will enjoy discovering new things and tricks, and those who are willing and able to adapt and roll with the changes without complaining will get ahead more successfully than others.

[stoic meadow]

I understand that whole surprise and expectations and the work the other to help understand the games. I don't think is a complain more like people would like clarification of what is was posted thats all.

[glossy plank]

Which we have done extensively for the last many hours since the notes were released. There are hundreds or messages explaining and clarifying as much as we know. There has never been a patch anywhere this extensive. And it is still many times clearer than anything in the past.

[stoic meadow]

I sure you guys have. Our issue is not with you guys, i know you all try to help as much as you can. Is the game itself. You expect after two years the way information is released it will be better that's all.

[glossy plank]

Haha. I feel the opposite. After 2 years I’ve learned to expect nothing and be happy when I’m wrong 🤣🤣

[stoic meadow]

That will probably be the best way to go lol

[hard vector]

"There is an expectation that players will enjoy discovering new things and tricks, and those who are willing and able to adapt and roll with the changes without complaining will get ahead more successfully than others."

So you are saying that devs believe that users tend to enjoy more when they "just adapt and roll with the changes without complaining" and that way "it will get" them ahead "more successfully than others." Have I read it correctly?

[glossy plank]

I am saying that is one possible interpretation. The reality is that in 2 years, despite being provided with hundreds of reports from mods and players otherwise, this seems to be how events have been and will likely continue to roll out. There have been many small and big changes, some good, some not so good. But the lack of detail on future changes and events has been consistent. Not every marketing strategy is the same for so many different reasons, and nothing that is done will ever make everyone happy. So clearly there is an approach that has been decided based on whatever metrics have been determined to be important.
In my opinion, players can either decide to embrace it and find a way to make it worth their while, or find something that fits their expectations better.

[marsh galleon]

I know that there are sometimes charts made up of the events so people can save them and print them of for this event. Will one of the moderators be doing something like that or could you tell me where to find it?

[fast flower]

Being ace has changed it may be a bit for a new schedule

[marsh galleon]

Okay thank you. I was hoping someone might know what the schedule is. Little frustrating on how I save or don't save things

[limpid niche]

We’re still in the first run of the new updates. So even we don’t know what all the changes are yet. Ill be updating the schedule once I know what it actually is 🤣

[marsh galleon]

On the Supreme power day is when you should upgrade everything right?

[marsh galleon]

Thank you for letting me know this.

I'm just trying to keep my alliance kind of updated.

[fast flower]

Thats is why I'm making my alliance a schedule as we go for a perma thing lol these update wordings were confusing

[marsh galleon]

I agree completely. I'm not quite understanding everything.

I've got some people saying oh no we don't need to wait to use upgrades anymore for points and I'm reading through and I'm like you need it for Supreme power day but they keep telling no we don't need to save anymore.

[fast flower]

Just hoard everything till we know for sure

[limpid niche]

Save boxes. Don’t open them. Since those will count as “get” when you open them.

[marsh galleon]

Thats what I tried to tell them. Like I said to one person I will let the smarties believe they are smart and if it turns out they are wrong then they will be kicking their own butts.

[limpid niche]

As for events that use the materials … based on the notes, all of those have been removed…. But that’s why we’re also waiting til a round of the events are done to make sure.

[marsh galleon]

I'm hoarding tell I know more.

[limpid niche]

So it’ll be a confusing 10 days 🥺

[marsh galleon]

Thank you again for helping keep us updated as much as you can.

[cold totem]

Always hoard is what I heard

[upper furnace]

I wanna ask about this ace commander part of patch notes

Sunday: Ultimate Trial
• Faster speed to earn speed via resource gathering (Rare Earth included), construction, research, Stamina and AP consumption.

Anyone know what is that means? Is it a gathering event + construction + research + stamina&AP, or something?

[distant ridge]

Anyone know about next ace?
Is it daily rewards basis or still be weakly basis?

[distant ridge]

So far i understand is now day 1 will be gathering, day 2 will be build & research, day 3 hunt... Now all 3 will call ultimate trail

[rare mantle]

There will still be daily goals

[rare mantle]

We only have our interpretations, which we are not sure are correct. We have to wait until the event comes next week to know for sure.

[gusty kindle]

I hope training might up stays for 7th day atleast.

We got used to 300% training boost which helps lot on 7th day of ace.😂

[paper locust]

Plz dont say 300% boost will not match any more

I have saved my self long time for it

N i was planning to join this week😔

How about improve might day any thing changed in it?

I dont understand that part

[rancid hare]

It’s all up to interpretation until we actually get to that day. So we can only hope

[civic bane]

I forget which day is building / research? I know it’s a combo of the last two days but I forget when the first solo day is

[fast flower]

It's all a mystery but I don't think they are changing the first couple days

[civic bane]

If they don’t change it, it’ll be day 2 right? Day 1 in theory is gathering day two is build/research?

[fast flower]

Yes if its not changed itll be day 2

[civic bane]

Thanks!

[ancient yarrow]

Can someone post a new list of the changes to ace? Wasn’t aware things were changing.

[fast flower]

We won't know till ace happens

[ancient yarrow]

Thanks Blue

[rancid hare]

You can always take a guess by looking at the patch notes #🩹patch-notes but until it happens it’s all guessing

[ancient yarrow]

Thank you :). Just didn’t know if someone knew something different. Appreciate the responses.

[rancid hare]

Hard to interpret

[fast flower]

I stopped trying to understand it after off week was changed 😂

[coarse drum]

When is the best time to start the 300% comeback? When does everyone usually do it?

[rare mantle]

With the changes to WK, we don't know anymore and won't be able to answer until we see what the changes are, but we always do ours right when our hub is secured

[limpid niche]

Ace Commander: Gathering Changes

[rancid hare]

So is this different?

[limpid niche]

The biggest change is the amount of rare earth required to reach the tiers.

After breaking it down, the rss quantities are the same amounts since they increased the points per to make up for the tier requirements.

[rancid hare]

Ah.

[glossy plank]

That is what they meant by faster gathering speed in the patch notes. Just incredibly shitty use of words

[rancid hare]

They changed the rewards for the last phase. We get protons

[glossy plank]

Nope!

[rancid hare]

For cool people who need them

[glossy plank]

Your points required are different and your prizes arent the same

[rancid hare]

Is it hq based

[fast flower]

Hmmmmm

I have protons

[glossy plank]

And my farm. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[rancid hare]

But glad we have more ways to get protons

[fast flower]

Protons don't unlock till hq35 so may be hq based

Well in dailies

[rancid hare]

Yeah

[torn pawn]

Are the rewards from each phase of ace going into open instead of bag now? I could have sworn that rss from phase rewards of ace went into bag. Mine are now in open inventory instead of bag.

[rancid hare]

Should be bag

[torn pawn]

Mine did not go into bag.

[frozen thunder]

Same mine went into open rss not the bag

[glossy plank]

Always went into your warehouse, never went into your bag

[torn pawn]

Huh, thanks. Not sure how I missed that. I thought for sure they went into my bag in the past.

[coarse hornet]

The frags for Phase Rank are nice. Too bad it's only for Top 20%.

[glossy plank]

Didn’t even notice that.

[rancid hare]

Wow just saw

[glossy plank]

They are different frags from the final ranking of course. Just to make it extra confusing 🤣🤣

[rancid hare]

But still ace III

[fast flower]

Why are the cards the same numbers that irks me🤯🤣

[glossy plank]

Different names. Phase ranking is ace commander hero II
Final ranking is ace commander hero III

[rancid hare]

I like this patch

[fast flower]

Still irks me🤣🤣 imma get my 2s and 3s messed up alot lol

[glossy plank]

Yeah, it isnt smart 🤦‍♂️

[fast flower]

No it really isn't 🤣😂

[glossy plank]

My report this week will be just as confusing trying to explain how stupid this is 🤦‍♂️

[fast flower]

Oh lordt 🤣

[proud gorge]

Friday. Can we get points from promotion or enhance gear chips module and cube

[rancid hare]

We won’t know until Friday.

[fast flower]

Welcome to ace week we still don't what day is what yet lol

[proud gorge]

Even pns don't know 😆

[paper locust]

I have minimum 50 to 70 mill points by promotion n enhancement this time, we should have been informed sooner by this change,
If i dont get points by promotion and enhancement i will quite game directly this sudden change without informing players dont make any sense, it is boring even thinking about it 😤😫

[rancid hare]

Okay then.

[unborn willow]

Do we not have a daily list yet for Ace? Please say I've just over looked it.

[glossy plank]

Only what was shared in the patch notes and is pinned to this channel. Still many unanswered questions

[frozen iron]

I'm hoping that they didn't remove troops training from Sunday event. Don't mind them not giving points to troop type but not getting points from training speedup kinda make the whole 300% state decree unrelated to ace.

[plain oracle]

The State Decrees are set by the State Officers. So they have the ability to change it to a different, more relevant day.

[frozen iron]

The 300% starts automatically after the end of WK right? Speedy recovery or something

[quiet egret]

The governor of your state has to start it.

[frozen iron]

Still there's no better time to start the event that is beneficial to ace on Sunday + development event on Tuesday (off ace). If troops training is removed from Ace on Sunday, there's no way to take advantage of it right?

[plain oracle]

True. But that 300% is only for troops lost in WK. So potentially lost opportunity but only for those that participate in WK & only for a finite amount.

[frozen iron]

Our 4 months old is still quite vibrant during WK so that's quite a lot of lost opportunity to hit multiple birds with one stone.

[unborn barn]

Agreed. not happy about that one.

[dull roost]

Im sure this has been asked before. But I’m gonna ask. How in the hell do these guys get so many points gathering rss. Im not maxed out on my gathering research or with nova skills. But they have 10 million points. How? Generally want to know. Thanks for any help or advice!!

[fast flower]

Alliance Mill, pit, gathers that come back just at reset, and utilize that swift gather

[glossy plank]

And they doubled the points you get per rss

[fast flower]

I saw that

[dull roost]

I use the swift gather and the mill. That’s how I got 5 million points. But the guy in first has double my score. Was just curious if I was missing something. I try to keep my troops gathering all day. A missed a couple hours while I was sleeping

Thanks for humoring me!!

Been playing for 2 years and Im still trying to learn things

[glossy plank]

If you time it right, you can start in the alliance mill 48+ hours before Ace, and you can also use swift twice.

[dull roost]

We did this time around.

Thank you again!!

[fast flower]

I think a huge thing too is gathering speeds everyone gathers at different rates

[fast flower]

The monument messed up our mill setting up this week and our mill dropped ea😂rly

[glossy plank]

Ouch. I’ve had a mill drop less than 5 minutes before Ace started 😭

[dull roost]

Right now with all boosts I can clear a level 7 steel tile in an 1hr 15 minute

[fast flower]

I clear a level 5 tiles in 50 minutes and a level 6 in over an hour... I don't gather 7s takes too long

[fast flower]

Ours dropped 50 minutes early and we tried everything to milk it

[glossy plank]

😭😭

[glossy plank]

Depends on the tile, but I’m about 1:20

[fast flower]

We all forgot about the monument luckily it won't be around next time

[dull roost]

Thank you all for your help.

[agile shore]

Is there a pinned schedule somewhere of what days have what things? I keep forgetting which day is buildings/research vs use stam.

[rancid hare]

The next day is build. And the day after that should be stam. However they changed ace. So the last 3-4 days we’re guessing on

[oak obsidian]

Any one had the new ace commander schedule

Please share

Day 6 and 7 is split now

[rancid hare]

You have to wait and see. The interpretation, is unknown officially yet

[oak obsidian]

See this

[coarse hornet]

You don't recycle the Alliance Resource Spot the day before?

[fast flower]

Like what happened with us sometimes things mess up the recycling process and how quick it falls

[fast flower]

The patchnotes already said day 6 and 7 were split up but we still don't really know exactly what😅

[coarse hornet]

Ah, our Alliance doesn't gather that quickly so we don't drain it within a day. That's why we just recycle it the day before.

[rancid hare]

Well 6 is a hero day.

[glossy plank]

We can get 65 hours out of our steel mill. So we reset it 60 hours before the start of ace. We chose steel because that is what most of us had for fastest gather rates so gained the most points in pregather

[rancid hare]

We did 48m of steel in about. 18 hours. It was very close to ending before reset lol.

[fast flower]

I read that but didn't wanna give false hope with my assumptions of what I read lol

[rancid hare]

I know lol

[fast flower]

We had ours up for 2 days it dropped quicker due to the monument. Our gas at a normal rate takes 2 days and a half to drop

[maiden shoal]

Has this changed?
o DAY 1 = Resource Gatherer
o DAY 2 = Path to Prosperity(build/research)
o DAY 3 = Zombie Hunter
o DAY 4 = Soldier Trainer
o DAY 5 = Supreme Power (gear/chip/mod/cube)
o DAY 6/7 = Ultimate trial (build/research/train)

Note: This is an event where the phase pts are [U] NOT
the goal. Real goal is the rank rewards

[rancid hare]

Yes. Try and Interpret the #🩹patch-notes Good luck

But day 6 is hero day / modification day….

[sinful notch]

Did the scoring change for Day 2 Build/Research? It’s 1 Might = 7 points (up from 5, right?)

[gusty coral]

Can't see the 50k nova exp reward from today's event

[rancid hare]

Yes. As stated in patch notes

[sinful notch]

No, it actually is not. It says "Points requirement and reward are adjusted". That doesn't tell me which ones were or were not. does asking in the appropriate channel really warrant such a casual, passive aggressive response?

[rancid hare]

@sinful notch maybe read all of it

[fast flower]

So stam pills as a reward👀

[rancid hare]

Yup

[sinful notch]

still not the specific answer, but thanks anyway

[rancid hare]

Well good chat then.

[gusty coral]

Anyone from the support team willing to help?

[rancid hare]

I think it’s not going in your bags. But being added to the actual nova

It was the issue yesterday already

[gusty coral]

The message says check your bags for the rewards

[fast flower]

Thanks for confirmation im not the only one I was a lil likeam I see this right😂

[glossy plank]

It is broken into 20k and 10k in your bag.
The phase rewards go to your top line, rank rewards go to your bag

[gusty coral]

But in the screenshot sent above i can't see 10k exp

[gusty coral]

Here 👆

[fast flower]

This looks like the Eva points that go straight into your level up bar👀

[rancid hare]

That’s kinda what hillside said.

But the message he shows does say “bag”

So kind of confusing. Like the rest of ace this week 😂

[rare mantle]

Eva points 😂

That was a looooong time ago lol

[fast flower]

Please don't ask I was tryna say nova but yeah eva🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[rancid hare]

I didn’t even catch that lol

[fast flower]

I didn't even catch it 😂

[brave dock]

I don’t understand the patch notes for Friday ACE. Is improve might still part of it or not?

[rare mantle]

We won’t know for sure until Thursday/Friday

[next swan]

It's worded as not since enhancement material is listed in both old and new ways, hence it seems more like a clear replacement than an add on of promoters. But you never know, so just wait till the fifth ace day.

[near grail]

will using diamonds count as speed ups?

[fast flower]

I mean I sure would hope so cause your speeding it up

[near grail]

OK thank you

[rancid hare]

No I don’t think so

[fast flower]

Any other event its counted but that's on break loose and off week it worked

[rancid hare]

Oh really

[fast flower]

Yes it did work ive been doing alot of testing lately to max my stuff 🙃and I run out of speedups easily lol

[rancid hare]

I can’t use my diamonds like that. Need nanotubes

[fast flower]

I need to start saving up Nano tubes for the future when i run out of upgrades

[rancid hare]

Yes. They are 100 diamonds for 1

[fast flower]

I've so far been getting them from high ranking in ace

[rancid hare]

Same. But you need 400-1200 to build 1 building

[fast flower]

Lord yeah definitely gonna need to binge on scorched and get a ton soon lol

[sullen kestrel]

What is gonma be tmw for ace?

[rancid hare]

Stam ap

[rare mantle]

The order of days has not changed

[rancid hare]

Just Saturday we get heroes lol

[stiff sigil]

Has anyone posted a new ACE Schedule with description of daily events ❓

[rancid hare]

First week jitters. We’re playing this one by ear first.

But the days stay the same except for Saturday. How to obtain points is a little unclear

[stiff sigil]

Is there another research day (day 6&7) trying to figure out if I should squeeze more in today.

[rancid hare]

Another unclear mess! I can only tell you that I’m guessing that Sunday the last day doesn’t change

[stiff sigil]

😬😬😬

Guess time will tell, I'm in top .5 rt now and trying to stay there

[rancid hare]

It’s labeled the same. And doesn’t have a description. That’s my only assumption

[stiff sigil]

80 Wali frags would be nice 😏

[rancid hare]

Your doing great with .5%. Keep doing the daily aces

[icy ice]

Hello

[rancid hare]

Heya

[stiff sigil]

@rancid hare Thanks for the info 🌹

[rancid hare]

Anytime

[vernal tartan]

Would you point a newbie to an old schedule?

[rancid hare]

@vernal tartan

Wait that’s the new one haha

@vernal tartan old one.

[wild rover]

Will there be a training might speed up on Sunday?

Because they really screwed us with fast comeback

After wasteland

[glossy plank]

We think so, but not confirmed.

[worthy tide]

Hi, is tomorrow troop training still?

[lilac sky]

Check pins

[fringe viper]

I hope so, the patch notes says speed ups for research and building, using AP stam and gathering. but like everyone has said we won't know until then.

[glossy plank]

That note translates into “More points for gathering, research/build, using Stam” etc

[rancid hare]

The notes are separate from Sunday

[fringe viper]

I'm reading the pinned notes for sunday that Kato posted

[glossy plank]

Gathering was a 100% increase in points, build/research was 40% increase, Stam is 300% increase in points

[rancid hare]

Doesn’t mean it’s right.

[glossy plank]

Which was just the patch notes with slightly better formatting because that is all that has been released or shared until we have seen what things mean

[rancid hare]

Sorry Kato 🙈

[limpid niche]

I just made it easier to read 😭 but had to keep it verbatim so that it stays “official” and unaltered.

[fringe viper]

okay so why are you coming for me? I just copied what was in the patch notes and pinned notes. I even said we won't know until sunday.

[glossy plank]

I’m clarifying what is meant. Not coming for you, but correcting your understanding.

[rancid hare]

It’s okay Kato. We will figure it all out in time

@glossy plank

[rancid hare]

No one’s coming for you! Sorry!

[fringe viper]

oh they've made changes to the phase pts too, now based on HQ size rather than the same pts to clear for everyone.

[fringe viper]

I understand now, the notes are hard to decipher for us non pns gurus lol

[glossy plank]

They are hard for even the gurus 🤣

The phase points and rewards were unexpected and we are trying to put them together, but it will take time. And many mistakes 😣

[fringe viper]

wait so why was it soo much harder to get all my pts on build and research if it was supposed to be faster 😩 NM I see its because the requirement went up alot more

[glossy plank]

You got more points per, but they also jacked up the requirements for higher HQs since in theory you have bigger things to build/research. Allows smaller players to hit their tiers easier. But also the rewards for higher hqs are noticeably better.

[fringe viper]

I felt like I was rebuilding boot camps all day. It's nice those can the day before ap stam day, but they make you work for them

[rancid hare]

“Gurus” 😂😂

[glossy plank]

I’m good at interpreting bad instructions and missing details in my real life job. Lol

[rancid hare]

I think I’m pretty good at decryption this too

But….Sunday I could look like a fool 😂😂

[glossy plank]

Yeah, the next 4 days will be filled with lots of “well, that was not expected 🤦‍♂️”

[fringe viper]

Now that yall have explained what the notes meant, I'm hopeful about sunday 🤞

[glossy plank]

I will still kill off just as many of my troops, because I enjoy it. And 🤞🤞 it pays off with some nice bonus rewards 🤣

[fringe viper]

and you can get the 10k training thingy from exploit shop to stack

[glossy plank]

That really only saves about 75 hours of speedups. I don’t see it as useful, to me

Actually, only about 65 hours saved.

So I can get that for 100k, or I can get 100 hours of speedups for the same cost. I’d rather the speedups

[fringe viper]

I would have never thought about it that way. 😲

[glossy plank]

I’m cheap 😬

[rancid hare]

Yeah

[silent crane]

Hey guys, am i right that on Friday there are no longer points for might increase?

[limpid niche]

Based on the patch notes. Yes. It’s no longer using the materials but getting/obtaining.

[hushed sleet]

So with break loose increase might and Ace increase might gone, which events can you get points for increasing might now? Thanks

[limpid niche]

At the moment, there are no events for improving might

[sturdy briar]

Where did wali go?

[rancid hare]

What do you mean? Still there for me

[sturdy briar]

Nevermind.

[agile sequoia]

Hi! Just a question, what will be about about the next days for this event? Or at least, what about 4/7?

[plucky minnow]

Is there a new ace format? Someone said they are doing a hero day now?

[fast flower]

I'm still waiting to see everything but yeah i saw hero frags lol

[oblique hinge]

Has anyone determined if upgrading gear & junk is still going to count? Or only getting? Cause I really can’t tell… 🤷🏻‍♀️ 🫤

[fast flower]

Kato said improving might is no longer

If I read back correctly

[glossy plank]

That is best understanding at this point based on the patch notes (which were poorly written)

[oblique hinge]

That’s what I understood too. Which sucks. Since I have a crap ton of upgrades saved lol. Trying to decide if I just do the gear today for ruins, or wait just in case.

[oblique hinge]

Thanks! I am glad it wasn’t just me.

[hard vector]

I know some of us are not sure if troop training will be included on Sunday's Ultimate Trial, and this is due to the wording of the last sentence in the patch quote below.

4. Global Ace Commander now consists of 7 minor events. Points requirement and reward are adjusted.
   • Thursday: Soldier Trainer. Points requirement adjusted from training units of a specific tier to using training speedups.
   • Friday: Supreme Power is adjusted to Improve Might.
   Point Obtaining:
   Previously: Pushing record high CP, obtaining enhancement materials or Gear Refiners
   New: Obtaining promotion and enhancement materials
   • Weekend events:
   Saturday: Advancement. Points can be earned from recruiting heroes and obtaining modification items.
   Sunday: Ultimate Trial
   • Faster speed to earn speed via resource gathering (Rare Earth included), construction, research, Stamina and AP consumption.

Note, however, that the last sentence is not actually an explanation for the Sunday's Ultimate Trial. It looks like a separate bullet point to just explain that you can get points for resource gathering, construction, research, Stamina, and AP consumption faster than before update.

[fast flower]

I prefer instead of deciphering it to just wait and see

Also omg I reached 1m points on stam/ap day🤯

[rocky vault]

I’m saving my upgrades with a wait and see mindset.

[fast flower]

Yeah im taking it day by day definitely loving the changes so far

[quaint hawk]

Training day question. Is there a tier component or are the points based on speed ups alone?

[rancid hare]

As of right now. Looks like just speedups. Official word will be at reset

[frail willow]

I can not find the details or outline for ace commander this week. Please help.

[rancid hare]

#🩹patch-notes would give the confusing explanations.

[fast flower]

There also stuff in the pins

[frail willow]

Exactly 😒

[frail willow]

@everyone hi I’m having an unusual time trying to find a simple answer to this questions. I want to know if the specific speed up types for build research and training will also give points for ace commander

Like it use to

[fast flower]

It was might based

[glossy plank]

Read above. It is as clear as you will get 🤣

[fast flower]

Wait during ace speedups never counted for that day lol

[glossy plank]

Sometimes they did, in the way back before days.
I’m not certain if the new format will be speedups only, or troops and speedups. The wording implies speedups only, which does take away the prebuild advantage 😞

[fast flower]

I dont remember that ever

I know Tuesday stay might for build/research

[glossy plank]

It was a few limited times during the early days of new states. A long time ago.

[fast flower]

Might be why I don't remember even tho I been playing over a year lol

[frail willow]

Not all users are familiar with discord. Reading above what and where ?

[rocky vault]

If it’s anything like other speed up events, the type of speed up doesn’t matter as long as you use speed ups. A lot of them.
But, we will find out for sure later.

[frail willow]

Ah ok. Thank you for responding. I was trying to plan my strategy for purchasing and enhance before hand. But I wasn’t able to find a if specific speeds up vs general speed ups are counting towards points. Thanks again for your help. Much appreciated!

[lethal elk]

Does anyone know if Sundays ultimate trial will include training? It's not on the patch notes but training was in the old Saturday Sunday event

[humble pulsar]

Best guess is yes but we won't know for sure until then

[lethal elk]

Oh ok wasn't sure if the mods had any insider info lol

[humble pulsar]

Nope, none that they are sharing anyways 😂

[glossy plank]

We have shared out lack of info so many times this week 🤣🤣

[lethal elk]

Sorry I didn't really scroll up and read everything. Someone in my alliance asked me so I just asked here

[glossy plank]

I wish I knew. I had scheduled myself to push Ace this week, and then they changed it all 🤦‍♂️

[lethal elk]

hasn't really changed my preparation so far. But if the weekend doesn't include training then that does. I guess we'll all find out together

[analog compass]

I'm finding it easier to score points than it has been since I finished Military 2

[rancid hare]

So has the global ranking come down a little? Or do you think we need 110m to be .5%

[glossy plank]

120m

[fast flower]

I completed all the phases for today for the first time ever

[glossy plank]

So definitely only speedups for today

But overlaps nicely with Break Loose

[limpid niche]

Yeah. just noticed that too.
You're still keeping track of the points for me right? 😭
Im basically redoing all my charts. 💔

[soft locust]

So break loose, new Dev, and this are all identical now?

[glossy plank]

Break loose is random phases. This one has always been one of the standard options.

[glossy plank]

As best as I can

[soft locust]

Yeah I understand that but if the might isn’t a factor then it’s all speed based events

[glossy plank]

Break loose still has other phases for troop might

[rich verge]

Game devs getting too greedy. This sucks speed ups only.

[rancid hare]

Well to complete the phases I think it averages around 133 60min speedups

Then you can save the rest for Sunday

[fast flower]

So I know someone was asking about diamonds working for speedups it definitely does work all phases complete 😌

[rancid hare]

Thanks

[fast flower]

I use like 4k diamonds for that experiment lol t11s take forever

[agile sequoia]

Does anyone knows what day is tomorrow?

[rancid hare]

Thursday

[agile sequoia]

Lmao

You know what I meant

[rancid hare]

Right now? It’s speculation. Still will have to get with enchaning materials. Of some sort . But may not include might increase

Officially we won’t know until reset

[agile sequoia]

Yep, I see, probably enchanting

But not sure about that

[limpid niche]

The revised schedule with the changes we were told about are pinned. Apart from that we don’t know any additional details on the changes.

[daring marsh]

Revert the training day changes please 😦

[glossy plank]

My math tells me not to happy about it either, but I doubt they will revert it back at this point. See how the last few days play out and then we will have a better idea of how to move forward with suggestions and feedback 👍

[rancid hare]

I know a lot of people are upset about using speedups evens everything out from HQ 1 to HP 40

[daring marsh]

It shouldn't tho...

No offense.

All it.doea is widen the gap between people who can $$$ and those who can't

[humble pulsar]

Game is aimed at spenders. The bigger the gap the more motivation to spend

[daring marsh]

Also on the flip side by your logic getting rid of improve might for obtaining promoters etc hurts small players unless they spend

[rancid hare]

Before it was aimed at who had the higher hq. Which majority was spenders.

[humble pulsar]

Improve might was biased towards the bigger players. The spenders dominate but even big f2p will out rank smaller players

[rancid hare]

Bigger players only had to enhance 1 thing to complete break loose. And ace

[strong walrus]

Well ace became a buyers event now 😫

[daring marsh]

On my alt I could still do decent Ion improve might days

And I spend zero dollars there

Yes I'll never be top 1%

But regardless that was always reserved for spenders

[strong walrus]

My biggest score was always train troops with the 300% state boost but now its only training speed ups. My opinion not a great uodate at all

[daring marsh]

Yup boosts don't really matter now either

[rancid hare]

The train I speedups is for training day. Not Sunday.

[strong walrus]

As far as i read it sunday isnt train troops anymore. Or im reading it wrong of course

[rancid hare]

Sunday specific has the exact same title since previous ace. With zero description

So making stuff up like Sunday is now training speedups is ridiculous

[daring marsh]

You know where you can start with making things fair for smaller players? Puzzle duels give everyone the same health lol

[rancid hare]

I didn’t even do that. Takes too much time

[daring marsh]

This is a bad update. And it's ok to say that

[rancid hare]

Yes. Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

[strong walrus]

It has a description for sunday. Ultimate Challenge. Gathering, build, research, stam and ap. Cant see training in there

[rancid hare]

That isn’t for Sunday. That was for day 1 day 2 and day 3.

If you would have payed attention. Says “faster gathering ….” Which day 1 was faster. And building points different as well as stam

[strong walrus]

Ohhhh so thats just for weekend events not ace

See im reading it wrong 😂

[rancid hare]

But we will see on Sunday. I can almost guarantee that it won’t change. .

[strong walrus]

Lets pray for that 🙏

[coarse hornet]

The patch notes aren't super clear but it sure seems like Saturday and Sunday events are going to change. But I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

[rancid hare]

Saturday is clear. Hero’s and modifications

[coarse hornet]

I went back and looked at the patch notes again.

I've changed my mind and I agree with you, Sunday isn't going to change.

[next swan]

Sunday is just the old one with training speedup. Just they needed some linebreaks for the patch notes.

[coarse hornet]

The "Faster speed to earn speed" line isn't describing the Sunday event but rather all of the other changes made to Ace.

The only thing said about the Sunday event is simply "Ultimate Trial", which implies no changes.

[next swan]

Yeap, bullets denote a new point.

[rancid hare]

But no where does it hint about speedups for Sunday.

[coarse hornet]

I'm kinda liking the training change. At least for my farm. Since it's parked at 24, training T8 troops always gave fewer points. But now since it's just burning speedups, scoring is a lot easier.

[fast flower]

I'm kinda liking it too

[rancid hare]

Yes! Even playing field

[glossy plank]

My apex magnum disagrees. I get 20% less points per batch of troops this way 🤷‍♂️

[rancid hare]

Alright grumpy

😂😂😂

[glossy plank]

I would have been happier with how break loose points are awarded for Train/Train Speedup phase.

[fast flower]

Each full load of my t11s takes 1 day 12 hours I like this🤣🤣🤣

[rancid hare]

I haven’t started yet. Training bl might happen

[glossy plank]

I still did 7m points so far. Just saying I would have had 9m for same rss and speedup costs the old way.

[fast flower]

I did just enough to complete the phases I got enough if a training one comes up

[glossy plank]

That is why I only did shooters. Left my full batches of prebuild fighters riders and cars to claim if BL lines up again.

[rancid hare]

I want that and a cube bl

[coarse hornet]

I just did 6M on my farm (to finish BL). Which is a lot more than I would have scored the old way.

[rancid hare]

This bl is harder.

[glossy plank]

My farms are super neglected.

[fast flower]

I dislike this break loose

[coarse hornet]

Only 30 days of speedups, not too bad.

[fast flower]

I prefer the separate ones to lineup

[rancid hare]

My farm has close to 15k 60m speedups

She’s a bum

[fast flower]

Wow sounds like my farms

[glossy plank]

This isnt my fav break loose, but it lined up so was easy call. And Leah needs constant love

[rancid hare]

I can’t be bothered other than dailies and gather and lairs

[glossy plank]

Exactly.

[rancid hare]

Hahah

What is wrong with my auto text today.

Also I make 2590 in 1 day 7 hours

[quiet egret]

Got my ace phases done nicely. But for BL it was only short of 20%. Fast way to run out of speed ups if you do this every week and don't skip a few speed up events 😭

[dull shell]

last phase reward doesn't even get you to 50% today...how does everyone have so many speedups

[rocky vault]

I rarely use them for day to day stuff. I just let my build or training finish in its own time.
Multiple times fleeing from arena, lol, phase rewards, gift codes.

[dull shell]

I don't think I used any since last ace..

[rancid hare]

It’s only 133 60m speedups. If my Mariah is correct

[rancid hare]

This BL is always a tough one.

[fast flower]

I ummm used some diamonds as well😅

[rancid hare]

Is my math wrong?

[fast flower]

I cant math half asleep

[rancid hare]

1.2m / 150 pts / 60 = 133 60 min speedups

[fast flower]

Or id tell you lol

[rancid hare]

It’s only 4am

[fast flower]

I havent slept 😂 but your numbers look somewhat right I think

[rancid hare]

I’m at work. So no sleep…maybe

[fast flower]

So math came out 133.3333333333 for me lol

So yes looks right

[rancid hare]

133 is easy to get

Can get 99 from ruins a day

[fast flower]

Oh most definitely with mystery shop, ruin shop, alliance shop, arena, and campaign

[rancid hare]

I shop there often mystery shop. I don’t even look at what I’m buying

[fast flower]

I love mystery shop especially the cheap 3 bundles of 8 hour speedups

[dull shell]

...trying to save some for once 😦

[fast flower]

Me too😅

[shy blaze]

1mil pts

[glass knoll]

Hiya :) does that mean that ace power won't be for might increase anymore?

[dull shell]

It sounds like that, but I'm willing to hold off just in case 🙂

If it's being called "Improve Might"...maybe it does still include that

[glass knoll]

That was my thought too... Let's see tomorrow 😬😬

[neon fossil]

It was so much easier than the accompanying break loose where training speedups were rated at 15 per minute... (Would have been even easier on the rss if our Gov hadn't activated the training boost.) I easily passed all phases of Ace Training speedup 🤣, while the Break Loose Training speedup was only at phase 2 😢 .

[cinder ice]

On Sunday with the new setup, only speedups count? It's not clear from the description.

[rare mantle]

We don’t know until Saturday.

[fading flax]

Am I right in thinking no training points on Sunday or Saturday?

[rancid hare]

It’s very unclear. We’re all speculating. I say it’s still there. But we have to wait and see

[formal fable]

Has anybody noticed how the new training requirements, using speeds, is going to affect the 300% bounce back coming from wasteland King?

In theory the 300 bounce back is actually a penalty now as is having an apex Magnum.

The 300 bounce back is actually a penalty now because you'll need to use more resources to accomplish the bounce back because the past you are basically using might to score points. Participating in the wasteland and losing troops and having the bounce back will actually penalize the player during sunday's phase of ace.

The Apex Magnum is now a penalty as well because as it does speed up your troops it basically forces you to use more resources to complete any of the events during Ace.

In my opinion training during Ace needs to go back to a might base, not speeds.

[rancid hare]

Has anyone noticed. Nothing had been mentioned for Sunday and Everyone is jumping to conclusions with no evidence

[formal fable]

It says speeds on Sunday what evidence do u need?

[rancid hare]

All it says for Sunday is “ultimate trial”

The sentence u see was for day 1. Day 2 and day 3. Changing the rate of points

Says nothing for training speeds for Sunday.

[formal fable]

Faster speed to earn, speed via....

[rancid hare]

Completely different sentence. No relation to Sunday. Also still doesn’t say anything for training speeds. If you payed attention. Which seems like you didn’t. The rate for rare earth was faster on day 1. Wow who would have know. Day two. Research and construction was faster. Wow! Day 3 stam. We were able to complete the phases faster…..wow!
Still nothing about training. Still don’t see anything.

[formal fable]

it's a bullet point under ultimate trial.... If u paid attention...

[rancid hare]

So why isn’t there one under Saturday?

[formal fable]

Regardless it needs to be looked at for Thursday as well as any other training event

And the nano weapon

[rancid hare]

There’s a bullet for weekend

[fast flower]

I have to say I honestly loved the speedups today all 4 of my accounts finished all phases with no problems.

[fast flower]

Faster speed is towards gathering and pit included...

[formal fable]

It looks like everything is speed based however there is no training, you are correct

[fast flower]

The speedup change for today is nice though all my accounts can compete which is nice

But no there is none in that area of speeding up for troops

[rancid hare]

Only took 133 60min speedups

For phases.

I don’t need to rank lol

[fast flower]

My 2nd main loved it we made like 50k more troops and finally made a debt in her speedups

[rancid hare]

I can’t be bothered on my sub account.

[fast flower]

I play 2 side by side. 1 on my phone and 1 on my pc

[rancid hare]

😅. Wow. That’s dedicated. Mine are same account so I can’t do that

[fast flower]

I love it 😂 but I love to be busy and my pc is in the living room so I'm down there alot anyways so its not that painful anymire🤣

[rancid hare]

It’s official.

No might up

[chilly ginkgo]

Saturday for that ?

[rancid hare]

So far. Saturday says hero day / modification items.

But I completed all phases but just doing events.

[random lichen]

The improve might part of Ace is ruined. So if you improve might it doesn’t count so don’t call it improve might. Enhance and Promoters only.

[formal lintel]

☝️ they totally screwed ACE

Training speedups was nice but if you're not going to have training on Sunday with 300% Devs really screwed us

[rancid hare]

Oh yeah. Definitely change the name

[random lichen]

Hope the improve might of Break loose hasn’t changed

[formal lintel]

So are there going to be any events for actually increasing might? Or are they just making us buy/hoard items now?

[fallow oasis]

They need to fix the misleading wording

Improve Might my bum!

[fallow oasis]

That's what I was telling my alliance

[rough atlas]

So.....go ahead and promote/upgrade gear, chip, mods, cubes at anytime? Improving might means nothing now for Ace?

[fervent ocean]

They just ruined my favorite day on the game… what a Flipping JOKE! 😫😫😭

[daring marsh]

#revertacechanges

[rancid hare]

They removed it

[soft locust]

I was just double checking that

[rancid hare]

How I read it

[formal fable]

Lol this is horrible

Spend more they say

[soft locust]

See but this is what I was trying to say the other day. Feels like a lot of the events are get, get, buy, speed ups. Off ace is same stuff just split up.

Break loose for the gear chip mod cube as well. It feels easier to get frags bc you can get the 1 or 2 for doing minimum but if it’s repeated for all 3 sets of events. Is it really easier?

[formal fable]

The balance between the weeks is gone, where in one week we used to obtain and the next week we used to promote. It's basically get get you're right.

[tardy mirage]

Hey guys, new to the discord and looking for answers regarding this event. Maybe I'm being dumb... but it's just hit the reset time and I thought Friday was supposed to be 'gear upgrade day' it's 1am here in the UK and all I'm seeing is a 'Get chip material' objective.

I've been saving all my enhance and promotion materials for what seems like an eternity and I thought today was going to finally be the day. Am I missing something or have they made a mistake in the game?

[formal fable]

These are part of the changes that have been implemented rich

[distant heath]

Worst idea ever to stop upgrade day , just a big money grab

[formal fable]

#🩹patch-notes message

[tardy mirage]

So.... when am I supposed to upgrade? 😂

[formal fable]

Whenever you want now

[soft locust]

Jokes on them. I won’t buy for every event every week. So. Yay for my new savings account lol

[tardy mirage]

I don't like it.

[mossy egret]

Whenever cause devs messed up ace

[formal fable]

The question is who does like it?

[tardy mirage]

The devs

[mossy egret]

No point buying for it

[fast flower]

This one sounds easy peasy but I got a massive hoard of cards

[storm pasture]

Not a single event for doing the actual upgrades?

[distant heath]

Better do it fast probably start charging per upgrade

[mossy egret]

Attempted money grab by devs

[soft locust]

Hero day Monday gonna be weird then huh

[rancid hare]

Yup

[storm pasture]

How are ftp players supposed to try to keep up now? What's the point anymore?

[mossy egret]

Exactly medic

Or even smaller spenders

[storm pasture]

Can we petition to change it back 😂😭

[languid sonnet]

any other events which requires gear/chip/cube might?

[mossy egret]

Wishful thinking

[distant heath]

Ruined troop day , ruined upgrade day , and ruined feast . Let's be real this new ace idea is just a terrible idea and the only thing they want is people to buy speedups and boxes like the amount that people already spend isn't enough . Greed is gonna ruin this game

[mortal seal]

Yes way to ruin my favorite day! 😭😭😭

[storm pasture]

It already has

[tardy mirage]

It's shit like this that makes me want to quit playing

[storm pasture]

This was the one day I always looked forward to and it's gone

[rancid hare]

Well everyone start putting in your tickets lol

[distant heath]

For the record I have spend 2 grand on this game so this isn't some " I just want free stuff " rant

[tardy mirage]

I was a 'free' player for a long time, then I started learning how the game actually works so I started spending a little... and now they're just making it even MORE pay 2 win.

[mossy egret]

Bad enough the way they hook people as a puzzle game 😅😅

[lilac sky]

Where's the protons? 😡

[tardy mirage]

Clicking the ad link to download this game whilst taking a dump is the worst thing I did this year.

[mossy egret]

Same medic

🤣🤣🤣

[distant heath]

I get needing people to spend money on the game and that's fine I've spent thousands but destroying the Ace event with the speedups instead of troops and now boxes instead of upgrading might is just greed

[mossy egret]

Right now mods and devs are hiding

[soft locust]

Not the mods fault lol

I’d be hiding too

[mossy egret]

I know

But still devs made a lot of ppl pîssed

[soft locust]

That’s their speciality I think

[mossy egret]

Yup

[storm pasture]

Mods are hiding to avoid whiplash from the devs crappy choices 😂

[mossy egret]

Exactly

[random lichen]

Did they though. Still says Improve might

[shut grove]

It's not thier fault no but THEY are our direct voice if they stay silent they might as well nit be MoDs anymore

[mossy egret]

I would too keep my head down and my ass lower

[wicked burrow]

I just wanted to say I had finally learned patience and was saving all my upgrades. Well I have learned f patience 😂

[soft locust]

I cannot imagine they aren’t reading and know people are pissed

[rancid hare]

I was commenting on the break loose might event. Sorry for the confusing

[shut grove]

The devs have 100% bought into the full blown pay to win model at the price of the casual players

[tardy mirage]

I'm actually so pissed I finally learned to save my materials only to find out they changed that mechanic of the game.

[gusty tree]

What in the world did they do to ACE?!?! The Event is a joke now

[tardy mirage]

They turned the one event that casuals could do 'well' in to also be pay 2 win.

[gusty tree]

It's not even that .. Hell I barely did anything and beat all the Levels in both the one tonight and the Soldiers one. if anything , that made the Event easy

[shut grove]

Yes you are right and after completing the minimum requirement I was barely ranked. People do ACE to try to rank up to get the frags. They made it easy to complete sure. But nearly impossible to even be in the top 20% now for a casual player

[storm drum]

This is 100% BS and makes me want to stop playing tbh. I have spent more than I ever thought I would on this game and the devs completely screwed over ace. I hope they eventually realize that they are getting too greedy and start to lose players

[rancid hare]

Well everyone send captains messages lol

[tardy mirage]

And this is the point I was making.

[tardy mirage]

Unfortunately, for every casual player they lose, another 'big' player will start spending more and that's exactly what they're banking on.

[gusty tree]

This game is seriously becoming a joke

[tardy mirage]

I'm a little bit sad I came to the party so late on, because it seems like the glory days have been and gone

[storm drum]

It’s sad honestly 😞 i have put a ton of time and money into this game and it blows to see them ruin it.

[mossy egret]

Careful or we’ll lose gathering day. No money in it for them

[formal fable]

Unionize and strike!😂

[cursive forum]

I'm a fighter base, so Ace means nothing to me, but yeah, the Ace changes are trash, especially with this "Improve might", which is not about improving might at all. Smh

[tardy mirage]

Part of me still doesn't want to use my enhances and promotes just in case they see this backlash and decide to reverse it... the other part of me is itching to just unload everything I have.

[gusty tree]

They won't care about the backlash.

[exotic surge]

Nothing will be changed until the next update I promise you that

If they decide to change it.

[rancid hare]

I’m still holding out on mighting up

Maybe they slip in a new event wr don’t know about.

I’m hopefully lol

[storm drum]

I’m not even mad at this point just disappointed lol

[exotic surge]

Troop day was annoying. Didn’t notice that much of a difference, still annoying. However “improve might” isn’t about improving might rather getting enhance materials. Oh and they removed gear enhancers from Lairs if no one noticed so now it’s quite literally only boxes or purchasing with diamonds to get gear material

[cinder ice]

For Ace Day7, does might for building and research still count or is it all speedups?

[fast flower]

Only needed 133 1 hour speedups to complete all phases

[drowsy ginkgo]

I only opened my boxes and refrained from upgrading.

[exotic surge]

Yeah like I said wasn’t too bad, annoying sure but wasn’t the end of the world. HOWEVER might day is a flop

[drowsy ginkgo]

That is definitely agreed upon, by mostly everyone

[fast flower]

I loved the speedups im not too shocked improve might was taken away tho

[sterile wolf]

Change it back😡😡

[exotic surge]

I feel like speedups is better. Threw me off but better tbh I get they’re trying to get people to spend more money and not hoard boxes to rank but lord have mercy

[exotic surge]

Something tells me from here on it’ll be speedups

[rancid hare]

Hope everyone is sending tickets and bothering people

[fast flower]

On the plus side now that we know if they don't change it you know what to hoard to prevent spending money

[exotic surge]

VERY TRUE but now I’m scared for showdown

[exotic surge]

Man they can kiss my “sorry commander” ass 😂

[fast flower]

Oh yeah showdown may be a hectic mess lol

[rancid hare]

Just coming to discord to complain about not get far. If many many people start sending tickets or messaging mods / captains. Might make a difference

[exotic surge]

I save all of my rss for showdown to push people to through their big upgrades and help them get the might quests and speedup quests. Something tells me it’s long gone

[fast flower]

Im very worried about that as well but today we did have a research break loose and it had might next too it too

Reference im eastern time so this was before reset lol

[drowsy ginkgo]

The speedup change evened the playing field for everyone which was nice.

But the improve might being taken out is quite a game changer.

[exotic surge]

I’m eastern too you’re good. And speed up really isn’t too bad. Like I said annoying and threw me off but not awful

[exotic surge]

I get they’re trying to get people to spend more money but goddamn. They act like every time you buy a box in the store the price doesn’t go up. Before you know it you’ve spent 300 and got 45 boxes 😂😂

[drowsy ginkgo]

Right. I don’t spend much myself, only on the things that actually are worth the money

[exotic surge]

Which isn’t much. I was getting more boxes for free than I was purchasing then for 5-35 dollars lol

[drowsy ginkgo]

Yeah. It’s a big hit and miss.

[tulip musk]

What all changed on the ace schedule?

Didn’t they change one of the days?

[rancid hare]

Apparently tomorrow is hero day : modifications

Modification get

[exotic surge]

Oh good think I got 10 from opening the FEW boxes I have 😂😂😂

[tulip musk]

Hero day? Like for frags?

Or did I screw up taking two to red star this week?

[exotic surge]

Might day is now get materials, training day is now speedups,

Nope I guess now you can upgrade whenever you want and not worry about saving for ace

[tulip musk]

Ok

[drowsy ginkgo]

Yeah. Ultimate power isn’t two days anymore, only the Sunday. They added a category

[gusty tree]

🙄

Ok...I know it has nothing to do with ACE, but does anyone know what the Nova HQ thing is?!?! I just got a notification saying I built HQ1

[rancid hare]

Just cool points for discord.

More you talk. More it goes up

[gusty tree]

Ahhhh.... Thanks

[fast flower]

You already could 😂

Ok back to add today to my event schedule

[drowsy ginkgo]

What’s today?

[fast flower]

The new ace day the get enhance material and promote materials

[drowsy ginkgo]

Ohh I thought for daily life. Not game 😂😂

I need sleep. Don’t mind me

[fast flower]

😂😂

I refuse to get into my real life schedule that is chaotic

[crude apex]

So it's now safe to upgrade my gear/chips/module since there are no more might up events?

[rancid hare]

I’m praying they made a new might up event lol

[crude apex]

I've had like 20,000 enhancers on all my stuff forever lol

[fast flower]

Even if its a rare sight still be nuce

[drowsy ginkgo]

Im@hoping for it Sunday.

[drowsy ginkgo]

Break loose has it for sure

[rancid hare]

But the notes say no more might days for bl

[crude apex]

The patch notes say no more might up for Break Loose

So my guess is that you can upgrade freely now lol

[drowsy ginkgo]

Ah man, you are right. Apologies. I misread that last part.

[rancid hare]

The patch notes. Are just not formatted right. Hard to read

[crude apex]

I just really wanted to make sure because I am assuming it's safe to upgrade now 🙂

[oblique sable]

They've turned "Supreme Power" (which used to grant points for improving might) into "Improve Might" (which grants no points for improving might). How does that make ANY sense???

[rancid hare]

Well. If we know pns. And we know pns. They never make sense

[oblique sable]

yeah, every time I think they can't get worse they go and prove me wrong

[rancid hare]

But I’m okay with ace like this. Since last ace I finished ob lol

[oblique sable]

good for u lol

[drowsy ginkgo]

I’m 300 frags away 😫

[rancid hare]

I went hard with mili 2 for several weeks. Ranking above .05%

[timber sapphire]

Mil 2 is the best for points

[fast flower]

I'm just tryna get 10 frags to get wali

[limpid pike]

They took my Christmas day

[rancid hare]

Im at 10 % and haven’t pushed. Seeing how things are the whole event first

[fast flower]

I was I'm top 10% at 7% last I looked so im doing OK for not trying lol

[timber sapphire]

I'm just trying to finish off Nam

[rancid hare]

How close?

[timber sapphire]

Nam is 326 away🤣🤣😂

[fast flower]

I got her red starred and stopped for a bit

[limpid pike]

Leah frags are getting more unreachable

[rancid hare]

Just a couple months

[timber sapphire]

Right

[timber sapphire]

Exactly what I did for Obsidian

[timber sapphire]

I'm ok with the 2 per bl...lol

[fast flower]

Not really this week's are just a bad string if em

[timber sapphire]

No point in grinding for an unranked spot

[rancid hare]

I’m workin g on Leah +7

49:200

[limpid pike]

So crossed with these new upgrade

[fast flower]

Im working on +6

[timber sapphire]

Same....im at 79:200

[rancid hare]

This week bl has been bad

[timber sapphire]

Lol...right....they need to include the train troops 2-4 a bl..lol

[fast flower]

Not many lineups with ace

[limpid pike]

51 frag away to +6 but it looks like it's gonna be a long road for me as speed ups are killing me 😂😂😂😂

[rancid hare]

And the bl we have now. It’s the second one. But hard to complete

[fast flower]

I dislike this one

[timber sapphire]

Just make it a Christmas gift for yourself so you don't have to worry about when you will finish her off

[limpid pike]

Research 50 days so good luck to have speed ups

[drowsy ginkgo]

BL speedups suck

[limpid pike]

I speed up 14 days and barely did lvl 2 in BL , how sad is that

😂😂😂😂

Giving up totally 😪

[rancid hare]

Yeah. Will never do this one

[lilac sky]

This is the best one. Especially when it aligns with troops day

[rancid hare]

Not at all. There’s the train one.

Which is better

This is just speedups

You need 694 60 min speedups to finish

[lilac sky]

Yep. With the new ace and troop day I've made so many t1s cars the last couple days 😂

[cinder ice]

For Sunday, do building and research might still matter or is it all speedups?

[rancid hare]

Unknown

We see on Sunday

[cinder ice]

It's annoying because I had 2 big buildings and a lvl7 military 2 queued up to go just after reset but now I have to pass on all the speedup BL unless I want to train more troops.

[faint leaf]

So... No more gear might point on ace and non-ace event?

[hollow stirrup]

Sigh. A lot of us are triggered on this one

But basically they’ve ruined Day 4 for a lot of older players

Cards or points you make the decision now. Depending on the ace week or non ace week

[shy blaze]

I guess Sunday is the usual ultimate build, research, train. They didn't say it changes. Just from 2 days become 1 day.

[bright canopy]

Will they revise might ace if enough people complain ?

[paper stirrup]

Maybe

[hoary hazel]

Thanks Devs
https://tenor.com/view/two-thumbs-down-hate-it-bad-rating-dont-like-it-negative-gif-15666785

[unreal spear]

Not a fan of the ace changes, esp day 4

[hushed gale]

The ACE changes suck

[leaden verge]

Ace is horrible now. Especially days 4 and 5.

[wispy raft]

Not a fan of ace at all anymore. These changes are terrible. Whomever voted for these on thr cs side should be fired. 😂😂😂

And whomever said these changes would be good here should be out in timeout for a week. 😂😂😂😂

[fast flower]

👀👀👀

[drowsy ginkgo]

Well, the training day put everyone on the same playing field, which is nice because you can get significantly more points for training a t10 +.

[limpid lantern]

Very disappointed with the changes

[drowsy ginkgo]

But the improve night is horrible, in my opinion. I don’t like that one at all

[limpid lantern]

I did my upgrades and no points

They changed the good stuff and yet we still have bs events

[rancid hare]

You don’t get points for upgrades

[drowsy ginkgo]

No points for upgrading anymore. It changed to acquiring promoters

[limpid lantern]

Yea I can read

I did the upgrades before running into ResWar like normal

[lilac sky]

Ok

[limpid lantern]

Saving for 2weeks ! Just blows now

[wispy raft]

I disagree. And going by the comments here, many others disagree. Sorry but it wasn't beneficial to players. And honestly idc what the mods say... I understand the devs are out to get people to pay to play. However they're absolute fools to forget the free to play players. And the nega4ive comments the mods here are getting are from the f2p side. Devs need to stop thinking of money in their pocket. And looking at the bigger picture. Like even in the last feast I was in people where spending less.. they're hurting their game play.... but hey what do I know... it's not like I do this in rl....

[deep kraken]

Still says improve might in the banner?

[rancid hare]

Banner doesn’t do it justice.

Open it up. And click on the ways to get points

[deep kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/very-false-advertising-josh-helman-pete-fairman-soundtrack-fake-news-gif-16223791

[drowsy ginkgo]

Perhaps. But speed ups are definitely easy to stack up, even for the f2p players. Not everyone has upgraded their hqs past 30 to get massive points off training day either. That’s what The decent side of this change is. Don’t have to agree with me, but players with T4s can still get a chance at decent points now.

[formal fable]

So basically it's a disadvantage to be big at this point that's great...

[limpid lantern]

Im T12 not cheap at all

[formal fable]

What sucks is also if you have an apex Magnum you're basically losing as well

[limpid lantern]

Just annoying they flip the good events to shiit

[wispy raft]

At t11 its not cheap even for me. So great... it benefits lower players but that's it it appears. When training day started I was able to complete the ace but not the bl due to the new set up. Without spending money. Amd that's bogus.

[formal fable]

I should have stayed a headquarter 26 then I would have had t9s to train and it would have taken less RSS to use the speeds

[limpid lantern]

Why don’t they mess with DOA or Dead Rising

[deep kraken]

Seriously Dead Rising sucks ass

[wispy raft]

YES!!!!!! many in my alliance have said the same exact thing...

[limpid lantern]

I spent 3k over the last two weeks … now I don’t feel like playing at all

[drowsy ginkgo]

Why I’m still at 29

[limpid lantern]

That’s why I’m here

[drowsy ginkgo]

Wrong channel. #🧟dead-rising・doa

[limpid lantern]

I got your Wong channel

[formal fable]

Yeah you have an advantage over me when I have T10. You're basically using less resource to train for same amount of speeds.

[fast flower]

I love speedups and especially training ones you can get from wasteland king

[formal fable]

Everyone will be training t1 now....

[dull shell]

speed ups aren't easy to stack when they have these events this often 😛

[limpid lantern]

lol I got 1min speedups today I guess from the feast

[dull shell]

I did better today than yesterday, by just hording boxes

[formal fable]

New development is speed ups already