#🔥game-general
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But you can get teach ray and Marcus in TT
I meant for Bumblebee. This lucky wheel is the only way to get his frags and no Optimus style event being released at all?
That’s what the calendar is portraying
0.5% chance for 10 frags and only a guaranteed 15 after using 300 isn't gonna make me open my wallet. If other players feel the same way then the Devs gonna be making a lot less money than they could have done.
When you put it like that….wow that’s crazy
They picked the perfect day to launch these events cuz I feel like an April Fool for spending on this stupid wheel
I hope I remember to get it. Then maybe I’ll have 4
Did they miss TOS in March
yes
So one this year so far?
yep lol
I put in my notes
I was just thinking about this the other day
Bs
I was saving my lunch money for it too
is there no more link in pns game itself for IOS users to enter gift codes?
external links would need me to manually type the character name while going through the app always made me able to choose one of the following in one state
You seem to be searching how to redeem Gift Codes in the game. Here I show you the different variants for Android and iOS (PC and Phone) users:
Android: More > Settings > Box > enter Gift Codes
iOS: Tap either of the following links to redeem!
- Phone https://gevents.37games.com/gamecode/indexm.html
- PC https://gevents.37games.com/gamecode/index.html
We hope you enjoy your free gift codes! 🍀
This is correct
blame apple unfortunately

Mod luck
5 claw prints common, 1 random and 1 glove print that
🐳
Hax
Any remote possibility of a whale bumblebee boycott? 👀
Unlikely
😕
they used to have a rule against discussing the concept of a boycott here but i think they removed it 😂
Yeah, I'm aware 😂
mola must have been doing a sd 20 nanocraft quest clearly
Level 7 ZL gives 2 blocks..
plus King already has +8 with a max modified and almost max enhanced nano plus a mythic core 😂
Level 51 zl give 4..
I’m not a whale but I only did enough to unlock 😮💨
It’s takes 12.5 lairs to complete the daily
which if you're running lairs at all or even hm you should get no problem
여긴?
12.5 Lair of lvl 7? Or 51?
What do you think
Which one did I tag my response to
🫠
I dont even know the calculation this time. Just Starting & Joining lair 😂
🤕
Forgot to join Hunt mastery 😂
That’s 11 of my lairs right there
I cannt send Linus msg for SVIP Gift
Change your settings
Change server settings > accept messages from everyone
Dang ☹️
11!!! I need 22 stam each time. During Hunt mastery
Dada

You Are the best. Thx 
Just had my GM confirm there will be no pass for Bumblebee similar to previous events such as Optimus and Teach. So we're stuck with the awful wheel. Just FYI for those who didn't know.
Thanks
My team mate spent over 500 bucks so far approximately and Bumblebee only +3. Hate to think how much +8 will cost 🫤
you could always ask king
when you’ve got it like that you don’t need to save money 😂
Fair
Putting in the bug field but equipping cores to bumblebee doesn't add to your stats at the moment
could this event run any worse? 😂
I don't think so
I got lucky and got a few x10 pulls
Im sticking to +3 though
Just wanted that for the core
I hate wheel event
I need gift code!
I got one already too lol
send your gm “Autobots Roll Out”

Ahh I ignored Linus as per usual 🤣
Give it time, I'm sure they will think of something 😂
i was complaining to diona when she sent it to me 😂
What gm? 😂
Few players here have designated GMs they can speak with
I have mean ole grumpy chester 😆
i’ve seen your bags as if you don’t have one
I don't, actually... I "politely" turned them down and asked them to quit bothering me... Not that it worked, mind you.
Chester is very sweet
Turn down free stuff 🤕
Lol 😅
so you do have one, you just ignore them 😂
Never messaged them here, only in the in game mail... So, no.
And I don't redeem gift codes, either... I know, I'm weird... 😂
Wtf lol
I maxed all the free stuff I got 19 coins free ended with 6 bumble bees frags and 2 optimoose frags
I got some cube whatsises... Gonna let them turn into diamonds

Someone in my alliance used 20 coins and got 1 frag. He then posted this ...
Made me chuckle.
🤣
Give me your codes
I hate event wheels... well I more hate when getting a new hero revolves round getting lucky
i like to visualise the end of an event to know approximately how much spend is required. You cant do that with this one because its basically gambling. A team mate spent about 500 bucks to only have him +3.
And by sounds of things +3 for 500 bucks is him getting lucky.
Needless to say he ain't spending any more and this is from a player with 1.5 billion real might.
Today PnS are giving April fools gift codes
I got one
Random DOA question and I think I know the answer. I bounce around a lot to help alliances with fireflies. If I bounce to an alliance actively doing DOA and return to the alliance I intend to do DOA with later, I won’t get locked out from participating if I don’t do any attacks in other alliances, is that correct? My assumption is the act of participating in DOA attack is what locks you in and not having been in an alliance that already did it. Though I am not 100% sure
$500 for +3 sounds pretty good 😂
Yup, just don’t send a march and you are fine
Easier to get new hero to +8 now than via timed tavern later😵💫
That’s true
+3 is what aim for with most new heroes
All PNS allowance going towards 44 sigh 😞
100 TT coins for a guaranteed 10 frags or 300 Lucky coins for a guaranteed 15 frags. Both pretty crap to be fair lol
I'm just glad I'm up to 24 coins and at 6 frags of a new hero on the first day on 1 outta 4 of my accounts that rarely happens
although hating this wheel
Collab heroes are always more pricey
This seems to be one of the priciest I've seen 😆
I got Optimus to +8 and wasn't too bad whatsoever in comparison to this.
Or just because of layout it feels that way
You might be a bit right
Probably a bit of both
Some folks got super lucky and got 15 frags with the 10 diamond spins
The battle pass system just has a nice curve and getting the x2 bonus is always a great feeling
But not getting on the PIII or mod tokens along with it all kinda stinks
I hope the other events give more coins, more easily and less pricey 😂
Going by the prize % you'll need 200 coins to roll 10 frags just once lol. This event sucks!
Had there been a one time unlock purchase… maybe wheel wouldn’t seem so cruel
Maybe if we get an apples event we will get an access to a good amount of coins
AP 🤣
Some did it in 3 rolls .. it’s the wheel of aggravation
I really do enjoy that style of event
But therein lies the problem so I reiterate this lol
Pretty much every event is a slot machine
Im not a transformer fan, so I was sitting this one out anyway except for freebies
It’s what they chose, I don’t like the wheel, just gotta see how the upcoming events are with coinage
Spending on beeboop for that troop size is a guarantee and what I’ll spend instead
still patiently waiting for if beepy will get perfect frag usage lol
Me too, hoarding perfects like crazy
For many different things, but he's a choice 😂
I only need 15 more frags to + IC and it's driving me insane it takes four of them for one of his frags
After a cheap super cuuuute march and a $50 hq skin in the mall… I had a feeling Transformers would be $$$$ 😬
Right now I'm making a perfect stash to plus 4 ironclaw need 172 perfects I got like 30 currently but if I have 65 perfects by the time perfect usage gets released they are going to beepy for a core
I read perfect sausage 😂
wheel event stupid grumble grumble
Yes this gave me a heads up transformers was gonna be a headache
I don't like the collab material anyway so I'm passing on stuff that isn't free 😂
Saaaaame
But for people who spent on it to barely get shit isn't right 😂
I got him unlocked and slapped a nano on him 😂
That's my plan when hes unlocked I got books ready for him
I don't have a nano crappppppp
😱😱😱
He looks so gleeful 😂
It’s the chains, he’s using it as a snazzy bracelet
I lied I do have a nano an uncommon radar works for now lol
I was like where is the 1 I saved it was at the bottom I did not scroll far enough🤦♂️ 🤣
Have a question if anyone knows, I have 150 troop chip material boxes in bag and sitting for when I do "get week" events. I received points for chip event before getting troop chip stuff from WC points, will the troop chip material boxes give me points for chip/cube event still?
What state are you in?
What is going on with the store? Instead of bonus diamonds it is giving bonus vouchers now. And, it asked me to switch to a new platform, and when I did, it switched my purchase from the voucher pack to a BeepBoop pack. I just wanted to acquire 5,000 diamonds for my bonus deal and now I bought a BB pack when it really didn't benefit me, fml.
Well farm luck happened lol baby farm has bumblebee 
The bonus vouchers is because they increased the costs by 10% so for a month you get that 10% back In vouchers
Well, that is good news then. Still wish they hadn't swapped my pack, but it isn't like it was something I can't use or wouldn't get at all, just poor timing on it.
Main currently has 7 frags now.....😵
1 better than my t12 main🤣
How soon til t13 main? 👀
Just did a 20 day speedup quest without starting the quest 😭 I love showdown
6 months probably
Nice! I'd say that'll give me time to catch up but we both know that isn't true.
i think 40 will be building in 12 weeks
Plus, only 800k to go for another milestone
i wanna get it before 40 that milestone lol
You will
maybe activating bumblebee and a nano weapon will do it
If you have the books for 310 bumblebee is like 2m iirc
i got books to make him 211 at least i think
Thats definitely more than enough, its like 4k per level iirc
if i get lucky ill have that milestone tm ill at least get 2 frags now the hope is i pull at least 2 in the wheel
Kinda happy with how far I got him
Veryyyyyy niceeee
Need a better core for him though
And weapon but I have an epic magnum cooking at the moment
Woahhhhh so cool!
My wallet doesn't feel that cool right now, but I hit the minimum I wanted
🤣
Both my accounts that maxed have gotten 19 coins. So feels average for me is 19 a day... hmmmmmm
I've managed to unlock him on only one 😤
I don't want to brag guys but I just unlocked Bumblebee 🤯🐝
Oh nooooo you got the farm luck or the money luck? lolololololol
I got the farm luck
My baby farm activated my big farm got 1 frag and my 2nd main at 5
I'm all over the place
that's good I think you can still get it within the next 14 days
Mod gave me five frags and I got five frags from the wheel
Oooooo
Bummer Bumblebee is on a wheel event. 😩😩 Gotta spend real cash with no control of the odds. 52 spins and still need 7 frags to plus 1
Mods don’t give frags
Yes, but the person who read it and messaged me didn’t…
Hence the clarification before mods get asked 😂
😂

Hela can I have some? 👉🏻👈🏻
Me too
🤣 🤣 🤣
I got some tibes boxes on the wheel made me as happy as getting bumblebee frags lol
Lol
6 bumblebee frags in 40 rolls oof
I got 2 special ops boxes… saving for a nano BL
+5 bumblebee might cost a lot more than I planned
Alotta moula
No rolls, no frags... So far, I'm batting 1.000! 😂
You ignoring bumble too lol
Yep... Never was a fan of Transformers... Besides, my wallet deserves a rest... 😅
価格がどうなっているのか、なぜ今そんなにお金が増えているのか。
They increased the prices for Japanese yen
Does anyone have a price tag on the dinosaur march?
Oh my sweet lord
Just to confirm it's not going to be offered again right?
Collab skins I doubt they’ll make a comeback
GI Joe never returned
Ok I'm going to go grab my mom's credit card then
Excellent plan 😂
😆 🤣
Used the top up site for coupons and extra diamonds at least
Anyone in state 919 want to swap Apex seeds??? 😅☕️
No one in my alliance has any to swap so I’m kinda fuqqed
since these are demi-mutants, which means they are also half human, maybe we can try to persuade them to turn to our side?

Hq skin for kumamon collab did come back.. after 15 months

That is the only collab skin that became available again I think
Ambience was like a year
Don’t think any collab march came back yet
Kumamon i dont think we can count as a collab tbh
Half human might also mean they use 2 ply 🤔
mower 🤣🤣
I agree.
i could be wrong about it but for it to return imo i feel like it aint lol
unless they have a reoccuring renewing license for it lol
Yeah that’s weird I had no issue with new website or platform but I also didn’t have a pack in cart when I switched
Don’t think that’s a licensed collaboration
half. so 1-ply probably
Institutional pack 1-ply? Ouchie... 🔥
1 ply should be illegal
Oh shit 🚽
💯💯💯
They use 1 ply to cut costs. I use 3x as much 1 ply to make it a but more usable. 
Great cost cutting.
Reminiscent of the old days of cutting up the Sears & Roebuck catalog into little squares and hanging them up in the outhouse...
Dear lord
One roll for one trip 🤣
Don't even tear it

what skin is this?
March skin, there’s no hq skin
I want that one too
Kumamon is free intellectual property though. Probably why it’s accessible.
I’d like the old Gotengo skin but it has not been available forever. I don’t even know how it’s related to Gohzirah.
anyone already got grimlock? is it tiny?
It’s decent sized, super cute
cool
5 what rss boxes?
Finished 14 240 quests on 1 account, 13 left to do 
Yeah, I got ten from that
I just got my baby farms RC to 28 so I can do tech speedy quests easily on her
24 people downvoted my suggestion for permadeath/permanent death for troops in valiant conquest. I made the suggestion to see if there's still people against permanent death for troops in valiant conquest or if people had changed their mind.
Ok and?
There was one guy who made that suggestion in the old suggestions channel and I was seeing if people are still against it.
We used to have perms death from same state hits during VC. They changed it not too long ago
The first 3 words on your profile make me want to downvote everything
😂😂
Oh lord i had to look
Why would you want this?
If you want this, go to a bully/chaotic/newer state that doesn't have NAP and go wild.
I work hard to build my troops, I will not willing participate in an event where they are permanently lost.
Me too 😂
And if you forgot your bubble. Your done in two weeks lol
I'm just so confused by what is happening in here right now 😂
Yeah I know people are against fit that I was saying how many people are still against it.
I need to Google a word in there.
Oh thankfully it’s a game lol
Exactly. I forgot one this time around for VC,made it out alive with more in my bag than before.
But why “test” your suggestion
People just want to play this game. It’s like 50% troops. 40% players 10% stats 😂. If you take the troops away. People will lose interest
I don’t see 1 single benefit of the suggestion
I made up the %s
They'll rage quit
The only people I can think of that would want permadeath in Valiant are those thag stand to profit by it... So, the company, not the players.
@north pebble I thought ChromeHounds servers were shut down years ago.
That’s off topic stuff
And it they did this a whole lot more would quit. Remember res war when raiding was allowed?
I’m old enough for this
And during nuka
Yeah I don't want this, but if you remember the last person who made that suggestion we pointed out why it was a bad idea. Look at what what I said and you'll see why I made the suggestion.
No reason to state the obvious... just a waste of reading
Long time ago. I'm old. My memory isn't that good.
I almost quit training troops again that would of been funny lol
So. I’m just asking. You made a suggestion that you don’t want ?
Super helpful
To waste peoples time?
Yeah, the Chrome hound servers were shut down. If you want to talk about Chromehounds, then we can take it to #🎯off-topic-chat or to our direct messages.
That was me a little more than a year go when I was in a state with a rogue nobody could stop.
It appears I made this channel active by bringing up a suggestion that would not benefit the player base.
Not my intentions though.
I actively dislike you
You legit wasted all our time
What was your intention by posting a suggestion you didn’t want
Nobody would have said anything if you hadn't
Although y'all didn't have to respond to what I pointed out.
You also could of not annoyed us by pointing out you are making suggestions you don't want to waste our times
Anywhoooooooo I need to check my stam stack
When you post suggestions. Moderators read them. And add them to our reports. If we add stuff that was actively not wanted. Then we just wasted our time
Just ran mine down 😄
So disrespectful to the poor mods
I panicked I got 24 minutes left. I already maxed my lairs at like 11am so the next 3 hours gott run yucky stacks
And people don't get why I don't follown the Suggetion channel... 😂
🤣 it'll be fun tomorrow
Resets 8pm for me so I get to run lairs right away hehe
Yup, me too
Or off topic
😂
I already apologized for that...
That's me, lol. I gave up on that one ages ago.
Off topics ok till the 5 dozen of people are bringing on topic bs in there lol
wtf hahahhaha
I have a hard time keeping up when I don't check in every 3 minutes. Sort of like this channel some days.
Today's been weird
There are some good suggestions in the suggestion channel though. Like making rewards claiming UI consistent for firefly: one auto scrolls, the other doesn't.
I actually don't want that change
I like when I complete it is hidden during showdown so I don't accidentally grab em before a quest pops up
Just like people hate the spam in chats... I love it but I'm also the weird person that likes celebrating everything
With our people
The one in Sc doesn't bother me since I'm rarely there. I like seeing who in our alliance did something awesome though, so I like that aspect.
I frequently forget about the in game chat... Except on WK weekends... Then I'm living in there...😂
Yooo
If they suggested a button to turn it off so it's an optional turn off then I'd be more on board. But spam don't annoy me
👋
God wasteland I feel like I chat the most 😂
Hello
Definitely... Since I always sign up for state defense, you gotta have chat to pass the time while waiting for a 20 minute march to land... 😅
I don't like the fact upcoming events red dot now glows all the time unless I open each event with a dot again. Something in the last maintenance undid that.
@robust sigil lol just peeped your profile made me 😂

I end up going to state ally swearing imma go to sleep and be up at 5am... nope was up talking too late instead lol
I usually get too wired the night before so can't sleep
I did 20 spins and only got 1 bumblebee frag lol I'm so lucky
Profiles, I just hope at least one person has followed the directions in mine, lol
I'm at 24 spins 6 bumblebees and 2 optimooses
Lucky wheel really is the luck of the wheel.
Omfg I never noticed yours🤣
Did 50 for 0…
Lucky wheel is fky wheel
I got two sets of 5 frags this morning. I'm a happy camper.
Nice
Very
And I'm really glad I've got him and beep boop, lol, all the others are either maxed or waiting on 7* books 😤
I'm ready for reset I wanna know if I can get him activated or not lol
I'll keep my fingers crossed for you
My hopes aint high
You'll have a better chance of activating him than I will... 😂
I know I'll get 2 from the 30 box for sure it's the last 2 frags I'll be tryna get
Well ya you are ignoring him lol
Just like I ignored TruckerBot 9000
I like bumblebee so im putting more effort into maxing what I can for free
Makes sense...
Seems like it, from what I've been reading.
Yea I mean I'm not mad 8 frags day 1 is decent for me (6were bumble) but hearing spenders aren't getting any spending is terrifying lol
Spending is not always a guarantee...
Someone remind me. Did Dae make a chart for the efficient upgrading of BeepBoop?
You could spend $19k and not get +8
I know from previous Treasury events that spending just means your cc will be overheated, not necessarily that you'll hit the top prize...😂
Yes its in the pins here hun
You're welcome💜
19k. What….the…omg
Hela sent me frags
Specifically her
Based on 5 frags per 100 spins at $10 per 10, didn’t do any xls just rough mafs. The drop rate is ridiculous. Of course you might get lucky and get a whole pile of 10’s but don’t count on it.
DM her if you didn't get any

I try not to count
Nope
I want some cool rewards lol. Anyone in state 962? Or 944
I started playing in January and never thought I'd be addicted to the game but I love it
#🎁gift-codes you can get a code here
I did a thing
awesome
Thank ya 
between my main and farms I have 13 bumble in 90 spins
I have bumble bee activated and 3 frags outta 10 for plus 1
3/4 of my accounts have bumble now😂 🤣
i rolled 30+ times and only have 5 bumble frags lol
this is cool but why does it cost hundreds lmaoo
i feel like i suck if i only have 25 tokens since i started
rolled 50+ on tr3 and got nothing
game is pranking me
Congrats!
So I have encountered a problem. I think due to one of the updates, the place to input the gift codes in game vanished.
You seem to be searching how to redeem Gift Codes in the game. Here I show you the different variants for Android and iOS (PC and Phone) users:
Android: More > Settings > Box > enter Gift Codes
iOS: Tap either of the following links to redeem!
- Phone https://gevents.37games.com/gamecode/indexm.html
- PC https://gevents.37games.com/gamecode/index.html
We hope you enjoy your free gift codes! 🍀
Thank you 🙂
I got 2 of his frags
broke through 3-3-9 earlier and got up to chapter 7 now making some progress
Should be smooth sailing till 3-14-6
I've had a few hiccups but nothing that's hard stopped me
I havent progressed in campaign 3 in ages
87 spins
19 bumblebee frags
3 Optimus
Kinda meh for that many spins
How do I know who my GM is?
If you have one then you will get a mail in game saying to message them
If you don’t spend enough money then you won’t have one
that was unexpected I have a plus 1 bumblebee
Booooooo
so how much have yall spent for bumblebee , wanna know
10,000 diamonds,$0 actual money.
I spent my money
$6,843
Ohhh you had to The price is Right me…
Hela has codes for frags I heard!
She has all the secret codes
0 dollahs
I also have a special going on right now for a snazzy bridge
I'm at 21 bumblebee frags and 2 optimoose frags... only done 38 coins
Can I too?
18 bumblebee and 2 optimus , done 43 coins. 20 bucks
regret of using my moneh
Should have been a troop size hero with the wheel
i’ve been looking for a new bridge…
i would actually have to declare bankruptcy you be quiet 🤣
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
8 coins got me 11 frags
100$, just made it to +2 bumblebee
that’s lucky
At 18-20 rolls a day. I might make +3
but why not wait till doomfest to buy coins
I haven’t bought any
Event sucks, should be make collaboration with Halo and/or Microsoft
Ffs
Can submit that in #📝game-suggestions
Microsoft collab can only mean one hero...
Clippo!
Is it just me or are the alliance showdown quests dumb asf? Spend 50,000 diamonds for 200 pts.
Spend 20D of speedups for 200 pts.
Like wtf PNS

240 points
You can just wait for better quests...
Nope it’s my favorite quest
But it’s about the rewards at the end
Yes, I thinj we are all well aware that you think everything sucks 😂
Wouldn’t you spend those quests to overlap with normal events?
Yeah spend 50$ worth of diamonds for 200 quest points greattttt
Then choose a help quest
Showdown is my favorite event, lots of diamond!
Don’t pick it
Mind blown
Thank you for the feedback
I just realize who it was lol
Always gonna give it 🙂
We will see
?
Enjoy your day
But why even spend money on it? If you prepare, you can do it without spending money
Game suggestions can be put into #📝game-suggestions
I spend $0 on SD
We don’t have a complaint channel
Im saying youd be spending 50$ worth of diamonds not nessacrily spending money on diamonds
Pick a different quest
What are we waffling about again?
#⚔alliance-showdown is the right channel
I need to Changed name To "Smart Ass" but out of Diamond spending
What’s with the admin part
only take the nano craft quests!
I’m waiting on the traps proof
he is still working on it
I got 27 frags on 48 pulls so far
😱 😱
👀👀👀👀👀👀👀
need him
35 pulls only 4 frags for bumblebee and 2 are from the box for spinning 30 times
Yeah. Sounds right
makes me not wanna spin 😭
for beginners do i keep my lvl 70 doc gray or get vavara? i have enough ruin tokens
Neither, you’ll get them via other means. Use ruin tokens for other things.
😇
100 spins plus 5 frags from my gm and i’ve got 29 frags
so basically only 17 frags from the actual spinning cuz 7 were guaranteed
ah ok
17% / 100 is better than most ppl, it’s still ridiculous
Let’s see
my stupid tiny farm got 10 frags in 10 😒
77 coins 18 frags
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U broke the system
How much is that??? .-.
That sound horrible 😭😭😭😭
What’s yours at
My big is +3 at 200 coins
That’s pretty good
i wanna know how many spins it took king for +8 😂
When did Dany hit 37b
Very nice! I was content just unlocking him
maybe did training quests for showdown?
65/200 is a really good ratio compared to everyone else
Maybe I just haven’t noticed 🤣
i feel like she wasn’t that big last week but idk 😂
once you’re a certain point of big what’s another billion might lol
is bumblebee worth it
Try to get him to +3 so you can slap a core on him, and high enough enhancement for a nanoweapon
On average 100 pins give you 22 frags. Apparently the variance is high. Stupid design
spin*
someone did some rough math and basically said that if you're buying coins it's possible to spend over 18k and not even max the damn hero which is wild..
i imagine that wasn’t factoring in specialty either
yea that was just +8
granted the average frags per 100 was low based on their calc but this is what koji shared #🔥game-general message
idk what other people are averaging so far but it's bullying me xD
im at 17 frags from the actual spins. 100 spins in
then 7 from the boxes + 5 from my GM
weird I haven't gotten any from mine did you get an ingame mail to message them?
oh there was somethign in the dm for a gift
no they messaged me here
Isn't it 26.5 frags per 100?

fell asleep on your keyboard?
🐯
I spun 48 times. First 30 spins i didn't get any bumblebee frags. None. I used the 30 spin box for the 2. I just spun another 18 times and got 2 more. 48 spins, 2 frags. Not exactly enticing me to play PNS
The event is shît ,money grab one for pns
I'm used to them being greedy but this is a bit much 😅
Id understand if you only needed 200 frags to +8 a hero. But u need 1150
Was thinking how much even +5 could cost and don't know if I even care enough
Probably just take my +3 and call it an event 
i’ll be happy to get +3 in the next 2 weeks at this rate
Hahaha no, unless you count the free ones from the track
Is power fist worth buying ?
if you’re lucky enough to craft an apex sure
it’s the best apex nanoweapon for a rider main in terms of rider boosts
Lmao so basically not worth lool
you could also be the one to get lucky 🤷🏼♀️
I never even won a scratch card so let's forget apex weapon loool
Could get lucky, could also go to waste. Never win the lotto if you never buy a ticket.
Can't win if you don't play
Oh me too. Don't be scurrddd
I have better chances getting a apex from normal craft lool
no you don’t 😂
If I can get 2 apex bio han in a week from free pull I can pull a apex design hopefully
Well, it's 0.5% for 10 frags, 1.5% for 5 frags, 3% for 3 frags, and 5% for 1 frag so doesn't that add up to 26.5?
Apex weapon hopefully *
in over 4 years the only apex nanoweapons i’ve randomly crafted were 3 terrestrial radars which are useless
That's some tough luck
That’s not how it works lol
So what does your math say then?
you are correct. 100 coins will get you 26.5 frags on avg
i did worse 
Which ugly robot is better to get
It’s not additive, it’s like lotto mathematics. I wouldn’t know the maths to work the odds.
Personally, my luck has always been terrible on the wheel events.
Your odds don’t increase just because you’ve made one attempt and not got a tenner.
If it was that easy everyone would win the lotto.
My luck is terrible at the lotto too 🤣
Which robots are you comparing?
Between Optimus and Bumblebee?
Where did I say that your odds increased? Here's my math. Given 100 spins, you would expect 10% of the spins to give Bumblebee frags. Of the 10 spins, they would be divided as 0.5 x 10 frags, 1.5 x 5 frags, 3 x 3 frags, 5 x 1 frag. You can't simply say that I'm wrong and not provide an alternate answer.
Yh
Just because I don’t know the maths behind lotto doesn’t mean I’m not wrong. Your theory doesn’t stack.
Either way, enjoy your 26.5.
I don’t know how combustion engines work yet I know cars go broom broom…
🙄
Based on mathematical and based on A.I for every 50 spins your odds are about 16 frags
Yh I actually chat gpt it lmaoo
They are both economy so their troop boosts are passive and equal, but personally I like Bumblebee’s hero skills better as Optimus targets one enemy and targets all.
If you aren’t planning on leveling them up enough to use them in arena or something then they are essentially the same.
ChatGPT actually said it’s 55.5 frags over 300 attempts. Based on what everyone is saying no one is getting anywhere near that. I’d give you the maths but you can do it yourself.
Or ultimate challenge
Depends on my luck lmao
I already did the math and gave you my answer. Please show ChatGPT's calculations.
If its 55.5 at 300 than it would average 18.5 for 100 assume the 55.5 is correct
If I could be bothered I would, but you’re clearly smarter than everyone else here.
This is what I put into ChatGPT, answer it spat out is 55.5
It’s kind of personally preference on your tactics and how you play. Optimus targets one, but decreases their rage meter a lot so works great against enemies like Teach to prevent them from doing huge damage. I haven’t used Bumblebee yet, but his skills seem to target everyone.
I don't claim to be smart. I'm wrong all the time but I would like to know exactly where I was incorrect. Without seeing the calculations, how can I see where I was wrong?
Ty
I use Optimus to take out the opponent that does the most damage first. Optimus was “easier” to get and level up though in first Transformers collaboration. Bumblebee depends on luck so I’m not sure how far I’ll get with him tbh.
If you spin the game wheel 100 times, the expected number of fragments (frags) you would get is based on their drop rates. Let's calculate the expected number of frags per 100 spins.
Frag Drop Rates:
Optimus Prime Frag x10 → 0.5% (0.5 per 100 spins)
Optimus Prime Frag x5 → 1.5% (1.5 per 100 spins)
Optimus Prime Frag x3 → 3% (3 per 100 spins)
Bumblebee Frag x1 → 5% (5 per 100 spins)
Optimus Prime Frag x1 → 5% (5 per 100 spins)
Expected Total Number of Frags:
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Optimus Prime Frag x10: 0.5 × 10 = 5 frags
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Optimus Prime Frag x5: 1.5 × 5 = 7.5 frags
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Optimus Prime Frag x3: 3 × 3 = 9 frags
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Bumblebee Frag x1: 5 × 1 = 5 frags
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Optimus Prime Frag x1: 5 × 1 = 5 frags
Total Expected Fragments:
5 + 7.5 + 9 + 5 + 5 = 31.5 frags per 100 spins
So, on average, if you spin the wheel 100 times, you can expect to get around 31-32 frags in total from all sources combined. Let me know if you need further clarification!
Luck or being unlucky isn't added so I can be more or less
It’s not per 100 spins. It’s each spin
i think he added optimus and bumblebee frags together. then it is 31.5
Ok, you’re right! You’ll refund me if I don’t get 26 per 100?
No he's trying to calculate the average for mass spin not 1
wereSnake providing free BB frags!
Moving on. Maf too much at bed time
why are you being so combative? you told him to do the math himself and he did. he wasn’t being argumentative he was wanting to see your point of view and then he did the math himself and was proven right…
77 coins netting me 18 frags
Again the maths is 100% correct but it doesn't add just being lucky and unlucky.. he's talking about the maths behind it not what people get
You have your pov, I have mine.
Weresnakes math for that 1 does feel pretty right with how many frags I've gotten in 34 spins
That's like saying 2+2 = 5 not it's 4 .. he's talking about mathematical odds not feelings or what people got
I’ve also known him for 4+ years so I know his character. He wasn’t being argumentative or smug about anything, his questioning was coming from a genuine place of curiosity
Why did you only include probability for frags and not other items. This isn't complete so it can't work.
Sure, noted.
here is how you can get 1 bumblebee frag for free: https://s.pnsofficial.com/pnstf02/pst9ioc
oh i forgot to login today
Omg me too
I am sure he added the other items aswell with total of 100% and only asked for frags so he's still correct
If u msg ur GM u get 5 free as well! Worth gold!
thank me later 😌
Or 3 for some people
How many free frags depends on your vip level on the top up thing Im pretty sure
or 1 or 2 😂
Oh I didn’t know that! But you get some free!
Like me cause I'm poor
“Autobots rollout”
i got 5 
I didn’t say anything and they just gave me frags
me too but i’ve seen screenshots of 1 & 2
When I role 100 spins I'll tell you what I got to end the debate 😂😂
Probably new I was going to ask for a code
i’ve done exactly 100 and got 17 (not including guaranteed frags)
but my farm has done 10 and got 10
probably is a beotch
i rolled 310 got 60
Yh like I said some or unlucky and lucky
See the maths adds up
no it didn’t 
i forgot 20 of my frags came from milestone boxes…
Well unlucky then loool
I'm just glad I'm mostly f2p sitting here with a plus 1 bumblebee on day 2
should be 22
I finally got him, haven't +'ed him yet though
2 then 5 then 15
At reset I pulled a 5 frag... did some dailies pulled a 3 and another 5 and a single so im 1 frag over plus 1. I know I said I hate wheels but it's growing on me a little I hope my luck stays lol
I had 7 of them, got a 5 pull this morning after cashing in the shop, and then some out of the box. Rolled 30 coins 😂
Is it possible to get enough allicon for march skin ? Without spending?
No
Noiceeeeeee
maybe only a belt
or wallet
Because someone pointed out the probability requires all inputs here you go
I have the probability of getting 10 bee fragments at 0.1%, 5 bee fragments at 1.5%, 3 bee fragments at 3%, 1 bee fragments at 5%, 1 prime fragment at 5%, 10 material chest at 8.5%, 3 pro box at 17%, 3 pro box two at 17%, 10 speeds at 15%, 10 glory at 15%, 1 spec box at 0.5%, 5 refiner at 12%
Give me the average total output of each option in a table format
Summary Table:
Item Expected Output (300 Attempts)
Bee fragments (10 fragments) 3
Bee fragments (5 fragments) 22.5
Bee fragments (3 fragments) 27
Bee fragments (1 fragment) 15
Prime fragment (1 fragment) 15
Material chest (10 items) 255
Pro box (3 items) 153
Pro box two (3 items) 153
Speeds (10 items) 450
Glory (10 items) 450
Spec box (1 item) 1.5
Refiner (5 items) 180
Total Expected Output:
Total Bee Fragments (from all bee fragment categories): 3 + 22.5 + 27 + 15 = 67.5
3+22.5+27+15=67.5 bee fragments.
I can’t screenshot on my phone
yea i really do not care bout math i care so far the probabilities have actual felt like the probabilities

Good morning
Now compute the variance and 95% confidence interval lol 😂let's see if pns is scamming us
No
About $300+
Ewwww early math
let’s see if i can survive til the apex match finals for the first time 🫣
the 1b+ base might hq41+ coming for me
Not trying to introduce more math here, but on average for the 80 items you can get without spending a day you get about 400 points in the shop so you can get around 1600 shop points without spending. The march is 3000 so you’d need to spend 250 or more to get the march depending on luck.
I’m sure someone will critique my math lol
I already ran into Farbs… now Plop
i’ve been lucky so far, i’m fully expecting to get 3 in a row for rounds 8-10 🙃
Frags include both heroes
Good morning
That’s awesome!
Ewwwwwww

Gooooood morning
I'm at 40 total coins from this first event alone pretty nice... 19 first day... 21 2nd day...

Advice: so running low on rss and want to upgrade. Do you ever not research so you can save for upgrade of hq? (I have the builder gear and research gear)
Also after HQ upgrade is there a certain order you upgrade rest of buildings? I.e.upgrade boot camp, infimary, farm, lumbar first and then training camps or go to wall first right after. Thanks as always.
So I have definitely skipped out on research in the past. I am regretting it now though. I am soooo far behind.
Unless you're a farm, farms all have gotten x5 a few times with $0, mains still a few frags from having bb and both $pent 😂
Yes. Also if you arent huge on going to wasteland you can store loose rss as a hide your rss plan to prevent using hq resources. I usually use warehouse to store gas and steel
Farms are not allowed to speak in the frag talk lol
My baby farm activated bumble first
I'm at 3/4 with bumblebee... 1s a farm
I'm at 3 of... something
I’m a huuuuge research fan
I’m not recommending to skip it tbh
Yeah me neither. Blue can attest to my slacking. Lol
If you strictly upgrading to unlock a new tier, then just follow what you need for hq
And the corresponding camp
I love research butttttt man them proton needs
Thank you. I've been just dipping in my bag to research and I hate it.
i skipped some to get t12s but spent the next few months working on it exclusively afterwards 🫣
but the higher you go in terms of research the more valuable it is
Especially in economy, able to speed collect tiles
my economy will never be finished
I have 5 upgrades left 😅
Neither will mine.
Military I was basically put on the back burner too once I unlocked Military II.
....and Military III is just...... a lot 🥲
Glad to know others are crazy too I have 9 economy researches left lol
i probably won’t ever finish mil 1 either 😂
My ocd won’t let me leave anything unfinished 😂
I’m being cost effective 😆
Way smarter
Mil 1... another thing I have finished
it’d help if this wasn’t so bs
Geeeez I guess suppressed that part

These panels go so damn fast…
Started 4 buildings on build day… poof gone
and this is with 6* tech gear not like 4 or 5* that most would have when doing it 😂
That gas production speed though
I’ll gather gas 4% faster, I’ll make it back in long run
I'm only at hq 30 and I'm already struggling, I can't even imagine how you all do it with being way higher. I usually just cry in my corner when I click "research" and see all of my rss disappear.
Exactly. The amount required for Mil1 research at a certain point is atrocious 🤣.
I just use Econ if I need a filler research to complete a showdown quest or tier that i just shorted on
Don’t look at us, most of us are playing 3/4 years
And hq 30 is an awesome accomplishment
I'm currently at that threshold of just having enough protons and research speedups to complete a research that is 20D long 🤣.
Okay so our alliance has a lot of OCD people in it and I'm one of them. And it's so satisfying seeing the "max" when finished. I just can't finish the research, but it's getting to the point of annoyance lmao! Like there's more!?!
Thank you❤️
I can 100% understand the ocd part
First, don’t look at anyone else
Second, what’s your most immediate goal? That determines a lot of what to do next
Very true...sometimes difficult not comparing, lol! Main goal is to get all of my buildings to 30. And then advance to hq 31.
Im this way.I loveeeeeeeee maxed researches that's why i keep touching economy researches.
But you are doing wonderful keep going youll be beating us up in no time
Thank you ❤️ I'm trying 😁
there’s several of these i’ll never finish, and at least 1 i probably won’t even start 😂
A lot sometimes also depends on your alliance, more stabby alliances rely on a lot of troops, some are more “farmers” with individual players that play Nuka or VC hard
I think some of mine are only maxed cause I got stuck on nanotubes at 37 for sooooooo long that was way back before tubes were more accessible
i love spending cuz i don’t get stuck on things, just delayed 🤣
I like to torture myself through the mud of the hoarding and waiting🤣
🤣 🤣 🤣
Just keep moving along you’ll get there eventually, however I highly recommend taking a very long break at hq 34 to get nice stock of rss and look at nano tubes as you need them after 34, know you’re far away but just something to keep in mind
did you get your chip/cube achievement on the weekend? 🫣
Wow seeing all you omg. I'm just a lil weak feller
In 932 and 944
My main is only 24 hq
Yes! Knocked off both new development and cube/chip worked out well
most of us here have been playing for years, don’t compare yourself to us just play at your pace 🙌
Comparison is the thief of joy
If y'all wanna send me any helpful tips I'd be greatly appreciated there is a lot lil things to learn on this game
That's true
the best tip is save save save 😂
Basically just save everything you can, and only use stuff at the right time to get extra rewards

Ya I'm bad at being impulsive. I try to be good hoarder but it is tough lol
Hoard everything you can man. Sometimes you’ll have to skip events and stuff but it ends up being worth it
U can Hoard everything for a Month. And Spend on next Months event
Bengallllllll
I Save up 2/3 weeks. Then choose to Upgrade 1 week
Angelllll ❤️🌹
How are you doing ❤️🌹
Anything you need to save to get max rewards is worth it, save 270 bio enhance, 100 time tavern and joy coins, save AP for shovel event, (try to get to vip level where you can use unlimited AP item if possible)
I am doing better. How are you sweetheart
Also check the pins on the different channels a lot of great guides in there
Thank you
I'm feeling better, the flu is slowly going away
Save 270 Bio. 500 Ap pack,200 Traven Coin, 100 Joy Coin. Also 1 million + Diamonds. play most events Fairly regularly and Showdown. To get free diamonds from there.
And then pick a week and Spend your savings so u can rank and get Good rewards 👌
I am happy for you sweetheart 🌹
If you have any questions about events or stuff just ask in here, there’s always someone on and lots of people willing to help
Thanks 🌹
U just say a million diamonds lol
I almost shit my pants when I had 20thousand diamonds at once from last showdown
there’s a hidden achievement for spending 1mil diamonds in a day but i don’t think anyone should actually aim for it imo
in over 4 years i’ve never even had 1mil diamonds at once 😂
i have hoard guides lingering if youd like em for regular events
1s pinned in #🎖ace-commander and the other i gotta find lol
Lol I was spending all diamonds on vip until I got to vip 10 and the mystery shop too
I appreciate you all
there’s lots of great info and helpful people here
not me right now though it’s past my bedtime 😂
Just Play Showdown and use Diamond wherever and however u want. Its fine 😁👌
my diamonds are almost empty
Save Up.and Go to VIP 13.
So u can Use unlimited Ap pack per day
Its worthy
same diamond shop ate my stash
Find an active alliance with a few veteran players
Save
Save
Save
Hoard
Yeahh same here
I have 1m + in all my accounts
Niceeeeee
@shy dove my next match 🤣
I saw March Size of 742k in Commander Duels. 😭
So how can I boost these odds? Lol
How is that Possible
Mega? Lol
Does mega Counts in Comndr Duel?
732k is the cmdr duel max for hq45 with the railgun
it can be higher with mega as well
Maybe the +40% march size item?
Sounds good!
Maybe. Cause I see Alex from 198 and Jon snow From 91 got 742k
ugh i hate that mfer
I think you could take them💪
754k in ours
What hero is your picture
In the picture
John wick
they’re both hq44 so that’s with mega and the railgun
Ah. I see
Zenga poker from 169 got 700k
Wow 😭
And I thought I was doing good with my 411k march size!
More troop size then me lol
i was happy with my march size of 319😂
Yeah like Killa said 732k with railgun then if you use mega it adds another 22k for hq45 to make it 754
It's okay. So I am 😂
Your pretty strong…
I am tiny
The highest march I’ve seen is 823K that’s hq45 with railgun, mega and 40% troop size increase
Can't wait to see Warhounds added back into that mix!
I am actively trying to do as many of achievements as possible, and the 1 million one is tough, because I don't want to spend them all at one time, lol.
Hoarding 1m diamonds ain't possible for me that 1s yucky
Define hoarding. Really only understand spending at this point.
Just ignore those Diamond Boxes until you hit 1mil! 🤣
I hoard to like 60k to 80k diamonds and then grab tubes right now every 4 weeks. 1m would be impossible lol
I don't think I ever managed to reach 1m diamonds before a shovel event drains it back to zero
Ive been up around 400k diamonds before, but not recently
exclusive weapon for BumbleBee leaked!!!!
||Apex BB Gun||
liar i have seen you stash
You were saying?
i swear i have seen more. where have you hidden it?
Was thinking the same thing. Thought he had over 1m at one point
My eyes lie
or he secretly stashed it somewhere 🤔
Prison wallet

Sorry Mod mistress. Back in my cell 😝
Mod mistress? That's a new one
I am curious as to the face behind PNS
37games
That would literally be impossible for me I’d combust
Furthest I ever got was 500k and then spent 300k on City of Horror....not saved that much again 😂
The closes i got was 300k diamonds. Then diamond shop happened 🥲
Would love to see them add beepboop to doomfest instead of levina
My highest was 200k 😂 there is too many things that need diamonds I just don't gave a 1m patience
Holy crap
Chatgpt is a language model and doesn’t know how to do math correctly. It gets even basic arithmetic wrong
does nobody own a calculator anymore
Do you?
of course you show up just to roast me
I just happened to have good timing today
four syllables word might take awhile for some to understand what you mean 👍
Can own one but if you don't know how to use it, you're cooked 😂
As a fighter and heavily weighted towards fighters, see stats, is there any point in unlocking the other formations?
Kinda yea.. im a fighter too. However unless you’re the biggest fighter in your alliance or state the formations help some. When running fireflies for example one of our bigs needs rider formation with rider heroes to beat lvl12 firefly 30 or to help with higher lairs during HM. Although I wouldn’t rush to it eventually they are helpful
So the rider formation helps a big rider join YOUR firefly? Thanks for reply
Yeah the formation applies to all who join your rallies.. so it’s useful for shooter or rider bigs joining your rallies
Yes, it does, esp if you have riders in your lineup.
Cool thanks guys
Sooner or later you'll want formations not for formation but for the after stats of formation. So yes slowly every now and then work your way through
🙏 🙏
i gotta use modifier chests for showdown what do i even get???
i basically only have nano ones and i can't use any of my modifiers yet i don't think
nvrmind i guess i can at 7 stars i thought it was 8
nvrmind it is 8 it just shows at 7 because someone mongoloid actually coded it that way
Mods for gcmc is 8 star... weapon 7 star and organs need to be apex
Start with chip or module
Can still stash ahead of time its what I did
like 20 module 2 promos away
thought it might be better to just save up for an 8 but i'd rather do my other 7 module now
and chip 8
Yea I even upgrade everything same star level on main statted ones then onto the next
thanks i just dumped em all into chip and got 5 showdown quests down on just modifiers lol
some modules too
The different formations also apply in defensive footholds in regard to triangular formation theory
So as a fighter, if the opponent was a strong rider you might use shooter formation and have ppl reinforce with shooters?
