ANBERNIC RG Vita, RG Vita Pro

[prisma niche]

Linux's much better soft-threading should carry it for high end emulation

But then again from my testing on RP5 Dolphin and AetherSX2 consistently do better on Android so I'm a little conflicted

[tawny lynx]

Buy the t618 level $140 16:9 handheld for 6th gen instead of the 4:3 $130 406h

[undone hemlock]

Hold up you could spend $20 more aand get the BETTER 476H

Though I wouldn't want to play 16:9 on a 4:3 screen

[naive prairie]

It takes five minutes to set up GameNative. It may take five hours to find a game that works properly. 🙃

[heavy blaze]

Lol depends on the device and the game.

[frail wadi]

psp works on the rg476h

switch not so much

[lofty kestrel]

pc and chromebook emulation laughs at us scratching around in the dirt for a perfect solution

[undone hemlock]

I meant the screen ratio itself

Not that it wouldn't work at all

Call me weird but I prefer playing 4:3 on 4:3 devices

And 16:9 on 16:9 devices

Now to actually get a 16:9 device that rivals the screen on the 476H that doesn't fuck my wallet

And isn't a retroid

[lofty kestrel]

like, i started emulating on a kompanio 1300t-based chromebook(basically a dimensity 1300), and had no issues until i got an rgCube, and then an r36s. but then... i dunno. this community is entertaining

[undone hemlock]

Speaking of Retroid RIP to the RP5 Mark II

[silver idol]

Let me look that up.

I wouldn't say that. Anbernic seems to be hitting the Retro Gaming community pretty hard.

[undone hemlock]

Anbernic makes a cheap device that hits the nostalgiabait

[blazing bough]

That's entirely the reason why I'm getting this

[teal sonnet]

Just seen the prices and my guesses where almost spot on , I was guessing $120 for base and $150 for the Pro .
Close enough

[lofty kestrel]

https://media.tenor.com/eHIRFWRKeQoAAAAe/marge-i-just-think-theyre-neat.png

[undone hemlock]

Potatoes are infact neat

[undone hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/fuck-fuck-you-middle-finger-middle-finger-gif-15294280

NEVER disrepect the potato

[lofty kestrel]

now that we know gameMT and powkiddy work together, this all is beginning to make sense

an rgb30 with an rk3576 would be great though

oh shit. i got invited to the Farever full-game beta test. WEll, that's it for retro stuff

[blazing bough]

Is that why the ex8 looks like an ugly spawn of the x28 but worse?

[glossy zodiac]

Whew boy, $150. If it had an 865 or 8Gen in it I'd say go for it, but man that's high for a unisoc.

[little crescent]

I already buy the rg-vita pro to my YouTuber friend I pay 80usd

[thick orchid]

are they?

[little crescent]

I hate that the screen is not center

[lone imp]

powkiddy has an indie branch called Royibeila that contracts handhelds out to smaller design shops like AislPC, gameMT, trimui, and kinhank.

[thick orchid]

whhhhhhhhhhhhat

when did this happen

is that why PK "dead"

[lone imp]

they didn't die, they just produce and build now. they don't design handhelds anymore really. I have no idea when it started.

[thick orchid]

THEN WHERE MA RGB10 MAX 4????

😭

[lone imp]

[thick orchid]

Do i want the vita pro or the EX8...........

the ex8 suddenly is very appealing to me after knowing it was related to PK

[sour olive]

Get the EX8

[thick orchid]

because.........?

[sour olive]

It's better

[quick cloak]

RAM

[sour olive]

You can actually do GameHub on it

[quick cloak]

GameMT low-key out here with 6GB in devices

[thick orchid]

why does the ram matter............?

my understanding is that ram is only good for keeping things in the background on android

and we aint doing that many things on these handhelds

[quick cloak]

We in a RAM shortage bruh

[thick orchid]

"side-eyes my pc"

sure

[quick cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-gif-5905854439703930680

[thick orchid]

joking aside, yea we are in ram shortage, and we get more ram on this

but if it doesnt do anything for the device.......... (i dunno how the additional ram helps)

[quick cloak]

If it doesn't do anything why'd they put it there?

[thick orchid]

same reason why xiaomi put a 200mp sensor on their budget phone i gues

big number sells

[quick cloak]

RAMpocalypse got people okay with just the bare minimum I guess

https://tenor.com/view/flair-office-space-we-need-to-talk-about-your-flair-gif-16786213

[thick orchid]

its more i dont understand how it helps on these devices

my pc for example, i want as much as i can get coz i know how it helps me. but retro gaming, files are small..........

[frosty imp]

Hmm... $150 for a new Linux compatible handheld. Does fill the gap between the Air X and RP5, at least

I will admit, I'm kinda hoping that G85 or G99 handhelds do get Ubuntu Touch one day. Especially if they can get Steam too

[quick cloak]

Idk I play game native on a T620 6GB....not sure would work as well with less

[thick orchid]

is this direct or streaming

[thick orchid]

whats gamehub

[sour olive]

It's an app that lets you play PC Games on Android

[thick orchid]

WHEN DID THIS COME

[tacit sage]

I’m not saying they haven’t made great devices, but it’s like Russ says, they’re always missing something. I think the 476H is great, but the candy bar aesthetic is boring and not enjoying for longer sessions without having to buy a grip.

[sour olive]

It's been out for a while now

You need lots of RAM and Power to run it though

[thick orchid]

not available on linux?

[sour olive]

No

[thick orchid]

dang it

[sour olive]

For Linux, your best option is Portmaster

But you won't be playing any high end games on that

[thick orchid]

i mean i have my gaming pc............

[tacit sage]

I like that they’re making niche products, but if they’re going to do it, they should do it well. Get input from people on what they would like it to do, what they would like to pay, how they want it to feel. Not just throw whatever at the wall to see what sticks. That costs a lot of money and it doesn’t result in a return on investment.

[sour olive]

True if you already have the device

Playing your Library on the go is nice

[blazing bough]

You need at least around a RP5 to get low level PC gaming

For like 2d indies

[thick orchid]

im thinking i probably need something with a 8 gen 1+ or something

[thick orchid]

ye this confirms my thoughts

[sour olive]

Ahem

[tacit sage]

You jest, but MagicX looks like it’s got some bangers on the way.

[thick orchid]

my apologies. This confirms my thoughts 😄

[sour olive]

Two Dream Pro is pretty nice for the specs

It all depends on the price

[blazing bough]

Where's the MagicX flip

[thick orchid]

release date?

[sour olive]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-gif-7653869622424692079

[thick orchid]

.,..

WELLLL

then i shall buy whats available

[sour olive]

Your guess is as good as mine

[thick orchid]

ok heres the plan

[quick cloak]

Direct

[thick orchid]

Buy the vita pro for the 1920x1080 screen. Crop Overscan GBA, cut off 12pixels (top and bottom total i think? So 6 on each side)

play GBA at 8x

profit

[blazing bough]

Like again aside from this device, the only other device I want is the TrimUI Flip

Give me a budget 16:9 RP flip

[keen heath]

I've heard enough . I'm sold.

I can rest now

[sour olive]

EX8 is cheaper, more powerful and is 3:2

Which is perfect for GBA

[thick orchid]

how can you say no to this?

[sour olive]

Easily

[keen heath]

It's simply beautiful

Anbernic the goats

[thick orchid]

ahem

[sour olive]

GameMT is 1620 x 1080

[blazing bough]

Like genuinely, the only reason I dislike that is just because it looks hella ugly lol

[thick orchid]

i lose out on 1 WHOLE upscale

[keen heath]

Unacceptable

[sour olive]

Remove crop on the second one

You don't need it since it's already 3:2

[fossil rose]

I know this has been answered, but I can provide a little more detail with this one!

• GameHub is made by GameSir, officially. They have a team of developers dedicated to it.

• GameHub Lite was made by one user shortly after it, and all it did was strip the metrics of GameHub way back. It was sending a lot of telemetry (back then) to GameSir. Its now run by a friend of mine (who also works on Eden (Switch emulation), and who made/runs EmuReady (one-stop-site to check users' submitted settings on games/devices on Android/handhelds so you can find real-world settings. *GameHub have long-since pared back the permissions/metrics though. An earlyish claim to fame was that it let you play 'offline' games you already had (Captain Jack Sparrow style), whereas the official GameHub didn't allow that.

• GameNative is the future of these, in my opinion anyway. My friend who runs GameHub Lite has been helping on that one lately and he considers it the future of PC 'emulation' on Android.

I did an article/interview with GameHub Lite and GameNative in an article back in November last year, but things have changed SO much since then. I've befriended a couple of people on GameSir, so maybe I need to do an updated article covering all of their work?

https://gardinerbryant.com/gamehub-lite-gamenative-and-the-android-pc-revolution-an-interview-the-developers/

[thick orchid]

still its 6.8 vs 8 😄

[lone imp]

i have the ex8 only for one thing, which is 32-bit windows games that only need 4gb ram

[blazing bough]

Like dude what is this

[sour olive]

Google Earth?

[lone imp]

and vita. it does vita3k pretty well with vulkan 1.2

[keen heath]

Gamehub works best for me, I'll make the switch to game native when I can launch my games

[blazing bough]

I just mean the design of the thing

Who designed this

[sour olive]

You can also get it for around $130 due to the AliExpress sales

[keen heath]

Cities Skyline?

[lone imp]

sinyorksu. he hangs out here from time to time

[sour olive]

SimCity

[lone imp]

you can tell him yourself that you hate his design tbh

[sour olive]

SimCity 2000 is still pretty fun

[keen heath]

Love them kinda games, but never fully got into sim city because of cities skylines

[blazing bough]

I mean if he likes it to make it then it's not my place to argue that

Just doesn't change that the design is the sole reason I'm not on it

[lone imp]

i liked the e6plus up until the conductive membranes started to cheap out. its factory reset and in a drawer until i get around to fixing that

[blazing bough]

3:2, the pocket ace screen, dpad top should make it my all time favs

But I'm just turned off because of the edges and super blocky look

[thick orchid]

will the rk3576 do similar on android?

[lone imp]

i understand the sentiment. i feel the same way about my pimax portal. i can play almost anything i want on it, but it's ugly and uncomfortable

[lone imp]

it -should-, but that's up to whether rockchip added full support to the mali driver

[raven sky]

Going live in an hour or so

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNuro4vRCkc

[silver idol]

So you're saying Powkiddy never left us? 🥹

[silver idol]

Depends on what you want, does Linux Support for DS, and Sega Saturn and below Emulation matter to you? Buy the RG-VITA Pro. Do you want Sega Saturn and below Emulation with some PS2, GameCube, and decent GameHub/Game Native prospects buy the GameMT EX8.

[silver idol]

RAM matters because it will give you a smoother Android experience and unlock for potential when Android Gaming. Also I recommend at 6GB of RAM and a Chipset around a Helio G99 for Lite PC Gaming on GameHub and Game Native. (Preferably Game Native)

[silver idol]

That's why I'm buying the RG-VITA Pro. Of course I love Portmaster and I want to get into Android Ports so... 😅

[naive prairie]

Honestly wouldn't recommend a "not Snapdragon" for much use of Gamenative/Gamehub. Compatibility's just not there.

[silver idol]

If you want to get into GameHub and Game Native a Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 with at least 12GB of RAM is a good place to start. This Chipset will net you GPU performance around a GTX 750 up to a GTX 780. Feel free to ask me @lone imp and @naive prairie about GameHub and Game Native if you have questions.

[lone imp]

yeah, i mess around with winlator and gamehub a decent amount. not as much as i want, but enough to find some stuff i like playing

winlator ludashi is sort of the end-all beat-all of cracked pc gaming

[silver idol]

Sinyorksu is just a seller tho.

[naive prairie]

I've even had some GameNative luck on my Razer Edge (SD888+ equivalent) - really need to put Lineage on my Wifi Edge and see if a more up-to-date Android helps with compatibility.

[silver idol]

I do the Vertical Hold on the Pimax Portal.

[silver idol]

I'd say no.

[naive prairie]

I just got a Gamesir bluetooth controller for my Pimax Portal. The triggers are fucking AWFUL on the Pimax ...

(I mean ... people complain about the dpad and I get it ... but the triggers are absolutely useless)

[fossil rose]

If its a desperate search for answers regarding GameHub, GameHub Lite and GameNative, I'm friends with the teams/devs. Send me what y'all want to know and I can ask on your behalves.

I'd tag them here, but they'd 100% kick my shins because I do it so often, isn't that right @compact ingot

😉

[lone imp]

generally the rule of thumb with winlator is you make one xinput profile and you make one mouse-and-keyboard profile and you use those with whatever games you toss in.

[thick orchid]

i have: Y700 Gen 4 with the 8 elite

i refuse to play with the X5 lite on it

[silver idol]

Ku 😎

[silver idol]

I honestly haven't gotten into Winlator yet but I want to try.

[silver idol]

That's a perfect place to start.

[naive prairie]

Yeah ... you have a good chance of getting stuff to work on the 8 Elite.

[thick orchid]

the battery life of that thing is horrid

i refuse

[silver idol]

I didn't know.

[undone hemlock]

Huh

The pro handles albtw

That's actually kinda impressive

[cunning bane]

breaking: the inside of the pro reveals it was, at one point, the rg 555

[undone hemlock]

Which would have been better received

[blazing bough]

Makes sense

[raven sky]

Yeah that was a wild find 😆

[raven sierra]

Vita Pro review: https://fxbilibili.seria.moe/BV1zAAjzKEfG

It can run PS2 on Linux, like God of War 2 at 1x and 30 FPS with heavy tweaks

Android PS2 emulation seems faster, you just cap it at 30 FPS without much tweaking

[blazing bough]

That's pretty good

Not something I would play but good regardless

[devout plinth]

can we start demanding this chip in the DS form already?

[civic nexus]

folks, sorry if this was answered here before, but I have a question. pro is 3576, which has strong-ish mainline linux support. could pro be a sleeper linux endgame device? price is silly, but I'd shill for my penguin boy

was out of the loop on new handhelds (android eeew), but curious about this one now

omg I can't read, pro is dual boot from the get go, sold. thanks folks.

how bad battery life would be?

[terse parrot]

A lot of Android handhelds support Linux too (booting Rocknix from a microSD card)

[civic nexus]

yes yes, but I hope 3576 might lead to more linux cfw options

[short goblet]

Linux development seems vibrant on this platform

[civic nexus]

we might finally get a higher end device with 32bit portmaster support 🤯

yep, I was considering radxa 5C to play around with. 3576 seems very promising. also finally nice screen on a linux-first(-ish) device

[quick cloak]

Happy for the 16 people interested in the Linux here

Anbernic really nailed it imo

Made the RG Vita appeal to as many people as the Vita did originally

Setting up the Pro for a Linux cult following

[naive prairie]

The Vita sold somewhere close to 16 million. This will sell closer to ... 16, as you say.

[quick cloak]

A proper homage must be a flop

More people will probably care about RG Vita when it's gone

[naive prairie]

No one will remember the RG Vita when it lies in its unmarked grave deep in the Anbernic woods.

[quick cloak]

Ouch

https://tenor.com/view/true-correct-dwight-schrute-rainn-wilson-right-gif-23822659

[devout plinth]

I see this as a win for linux and a stepping stone for more linux handhelds

[quick cloak]

If it sells

[naive prairie]

A win for Linux looks like this:

[devout plinth]

business speaking, they now have their linux OS up and running well on this rockchip that means they can support the rest of this rockchip family too, this is a one time investment for future releases

[spring island]

3576 in a 4” vertical please

[devout plinth]

I suspect they'll do the xx line refresh with these rk chips

[quaint mirage]

960x720 and I’m down

[gleaming vine]

Can't the retroid 5 line do that already?

[civic nexus]

in 4" horizontal with 960x720

[civic nexus]

I guess, but 3576 should be a lot more linux-friendly SoC

[gleaming vine]

Way less powerful too

[lament birch]

what do you mean?

[lone imp]

support is not mainline. it is hacked together by some code scraps provided by retroid. basically, you might not be able to enter terminal and do an update from the universe.

all rockchips start as sbcs with full android and debian support.

[lament birch]

i always though the 845 and 865 were pretty well supported on linux, not all SD's are but those two have things like dev boards

[lone imp]

the sd845 definitely because intel took some interest in it as a nuc/laptop option for a while. You can install full desktop ubuntu to the Odin 1 or full Windows 10 arm if you wanted and have minimal issues.

around 865 was when they lost interest, and you started seeing issues like sound and wifi missing.

There's the kona project if you want to compile everything yourself.
https://github.com/WOA-Project/windows_silicon_qcom_kona

[frosty imp]

Agreed, heh

[lament birch]

and there are at least 2 linux distros that boot on the RP5 specifically, when it comes to retro gaming, you can't lump in the 865 and 845 with chips that will likely never get any handheld linux support like with Unisoc or Mediatek

[gleaming vine]

As Qualcomm is entering the SBC market, it is expected that snapdragons receive better driver support for Linux, but IMO it's better to wait until whatever you want/need has been already released

https://youtu.be/XjvQf-WRZnk

[inner parrot]

That's my hope - kinda want to buy one just to encourage more Linux 😅

At this point I'm also intrigued by the prospect of having a working accelerometer in a Linux handheld

(May still be WIP at the moment, but betting that won't take long)

[magic jacinth]

Just to clarify, not the pro. It was the standard T618 model. 🙏

[cunning bane]

oh, well

yeah, 5 was t618, that makes more sense

[cunning bane]

it's weird, they can just go back two generations for one handheld because they still have those chips around

[devout plinth]

rockchip unveils new soc at a conference, always with a dev board, always with at least debian, this is why people should support rockchip more

[lament birch]

don't get me wrong, i like how there's support for rockchip CPU's, I'm very much looking forward to the Vita Pro

[devout plinth]

side note, I believe qualcomm is just as evil as nvidia

[chrome patio]

I would, it has improved a lot. My dimensity 7400 ultra does just fine

[lone imp]

mediatek has good directx 11 compliant drivers. the whole 'it's not snapdragon' thing doesn't carry much weight with them.

it's when you get into unisoc, rockchip, amlogic, and whatnot where drivers are just copypasta'd between soc's without updates

that's the infuriating shit

[floral vessel]

and allwinner?

[chrome patio]

Gotcha. The only non-mainstream soc I got is the A133P

[naive prairie]

I have been meaning to try out my D9300+ (Samsung Galaxy Tab S10) with GameNative, but the D8300 in my RG557 is decidedly NOT a good experience.

[chrome patio]

We got FO3/NV up and running on my 7400. Even found out what caused the weird "Install" bug with Bethesda launchers

I think they automated the registry edits needed for those games now

Other games I tested were the Octopath series, Dead Cells, VampSurv, Stardew, SteamWorld

[sour olive]

At least they're not using Exynos on the Tabs

Still annoying they abandoned Snapdragon especially for the price of the Tab Ultras

[glacial gust]

I wished they keep working on the exynos

[sour olive]

Exynos sucks

At least they changed to Dimensity

[floral vessel]

exynos/tensor sucks

[glacial gust]

It's so cool too , they designed and manufactured it in their own fabs

[glacial gust]

And ? Dimensity and snapdragon was bad at some point too

More competition is good actually ,if they figure it out
We'd have new players

[floral vessel]

I'm referring to the series itself

I'd prefer Kirin to get her act together

[frosty imp]

True. Didn't Qualcomm also say they're expecting the X series to hit handhelds too? Would be fun to see a SteamOS handheld with that chip

I recall Exynos was in some SBCs early on. Wonder how open-source is for those

[floral vessel]

I think Qualcomm will now focus on laptop SoCs

I liked MediaTek when they used PowerVR

[frosty imp]

(I won't mind Aluminum OS, but then I'd need to use GameNative a LOT)

[glacial gust]

That shits dead lol even with them finding someone to manufacture it for them
They're still stuck at 7nm and their flagship chipset is comparable to a 6 year old chipset at this point

[floral vessel]

back in its day, it even outperformed the SD845

2018 or 19

[glacial gust]

That's before the ban lol
With no access to 5g or Google
And with them unable to use the newest snapdragon chipset
Their global sales are on its last legs at this point,the Chinese literally keeping the company afloat

[floral vessel]

their tablets are still good option

or its mate serie for some fans

[undone hemlock]

Samsung discontinued the tri fold due to low adoption rates

Me: No shit you wanted $3k for it with zero trade in offers.

[floral vessel]

On Android, the only ones that seemed legitimate to me were LG and OnePlus before the merger with Oppo

DIY projects with LG or experiment with software on OnePlus was peak

[chrome patio]

Motorola has always been my tried and true. Can usually get a decent snapdragon (and lineageos) for a good price. I'm setting up my old moto g 2024 (snapdragon 4 gen 1, 4gb) as a handheld to prevent me from buying this thing

[floral vessel]

I wanted a Motorola Droid Turbo but I live in the EU

[chrome patio]

Motorola bangs in the EU. Way more options over there

[floral vessel]

having a clean OS, 3GB RAM, and an SD805 in 2014 would have been great

[chrome patio]

I will say, their OS is not so great now

My actual phone is a Motorola but with mediatek, so no custom os here 🙁

But, so far I've just needed to disable/re-disable their bloat from time to time, and there is a whole assistant button I can't use cause it's locked to their AI service

[floral vessel]

that's because MediaTek has heavily locked down their bootloader the problem has been on XDA for many years

[chrome patio]

Oh yeah I'm aware, but the deal I got and the specs this phone has were just too good

[floral vessel]

I followed Geekerwan's advice and bought something with 7+ gen 2 (that is, the Poco F5) and so far I'm quite happy with it

its a fixed gen 8 without temperature increases

therefore, the G and 7 series are very efficient

[glacial gust]

Why'd u want custom OS

Some phones have 7 years software updates now

[sour olive]

While it's true Exynos can improve, it's just not there yet

Same with Google Tensor

We're talking about the current capabilities

Not what it could do in the future

[glacial gust]

I kinda laugh at people shilling for fair phones ,while it's true that it's very repairable
buying a flagship is way better value rn , just as long for software updates and with similar price

[glacial gust]

Yes I want them to keep trying

[sour olive]

Same

[glacial gust]

They only put it in their budget lineup nowadays

[sour olive]

Competition is always nice

But they were also putting Exynos on their High End devices

And that's the big issue

[glacial gust]

Do they ?

[sour olive]

Not as much anymore

[glacial gust]

I'm pretty sure they stop putting exynos on their s lineup

[sour olive]

They used to have International be Exynos

And North America be Snapdragon

[glacial gust]

Used to ,not anymore

[sour olive]

Now it's the same across the board

And the Exynos devices are now Dimensity

[floral vessel]

One thing manufacturers do is release the latest updates that break their older products (more than 2 years old) and practically force you to buy the new one, this activity is even performed by Nvidia in its graphics cards

[sour olive]

So even Samsung knows Exynos doesn't currently cut it

Actually

The S26 has an Exynos variant

So never mind

They're still doing Mid

[glacial gust]

Why Would Samsung use dimensity,they already manufactured their own exynos chipset
They use snapdragon cuz they still haven't figure it out

[sour olive]

Because current Snapdragon chips are expensive

And Dimensity is cheaper while still having high end performance

[glacial gust]

Snapdragon is also way better for everything

[sour olive]

Interesting they went back to having International Exynos variants after the S25 was Snapdragon worldwide

[sour olive]

It is

But if I had to choose between Exynos and Dimensity

[glacial gust]

I just learn that Xiaomi produced their own chipset now
You learn something new everyday

[sour olive]

I'm going with Dimensity

[floral vessel]

xring yeah

If it can be as efficient and optimized as the bionics succeeded

[floral vessel]

and take a look what gpu uses

it looks promising

[gleaming vine]

Base vita should have been 3576. Pro maybe 3588s

Anbernic again at it

[floral vessel]

I really don't know what happened to rk3588s

[gleaming vine]

The GF Ace fiasco + the sd865 happened

Then the war in Ukraine, where it was found drones with the chip where being used so Rockchip restricted sales

[floral vessel]

the internet is a gamble; Oceangate sued Logitech, but they're still releasing gaming peripherals

[hardy sparrow]

its a beast too

basically the xiaomi version of the snapdragon 8 elite 💪

[floral vessel]

the heart of adreno is AMD, so it's hard to overcome that but it will be interesting to see how that develops

which processor do you think will be the peak in Linux handhelds next year?

[gleaming vine]

Snapdragons

[floral vessel]

After seeing that Rocknix exists for RP5 and Mini, anyone would think that, I suppose

[glacial gust]

https://youtu.be/Ohx5L6Z8s7I idk if anyone already linked this but this device would've been amazing In 2023

[silver idol]

I already did but Anbernic put it in the RG-VITA Pro instead!!!

I even suggested this chipset to Anbernic a year ago in an Email and now we're finally getting it in the RG-VITA Pro.

[sour olive]

Can we get a Dimensity Chip on a DS Pro instead?

[silver idol]

The battery life should be decent. It shouldn't be another RG552 situation.

[short goblet]

wtf drones in Ukraine with rk3566???

[silver idol]

Don't tell this to some people here or they'll demand you get a AYN or Retroid Handheld instead.

[sour olive]

Get a Retroid Instead

[silver idol]

I dunno man just look at the Win600 vs the Loki.

[silver idol]

ARM Linux sir. 🙂

[undone hemlock]

And will never figure it out

[glacial gust]

Exynos 2400 is solid
The snapdragon equivalent is still way better in efficiency but they're on their way there

[gleaming vine]

Rk3588

[silver idol]

Thanks for this information.

[gleaming vine]

And Ayaneo's and Ayn devices as well.

The rg ds should have used this chip, as it can run 3DS

[silver idol]

That's what I'm doing. Plus the game porting prospects are interesting to me.

[glacial gust]

How much would the rg ds cost at that point ,wouldn't it creep into any Odin's territory

[floral vessel]

At least it can run what it is meant to move

[silver idol]

It's also worth nothing that the Game Native team is working with Mediatek to produce better Mali GPU support for Game Native.

[gleaming vine]

RGDS at 120/130 with support for both DS and 3DS is still way cheaper than a Thor

[floral vessel]

Did all like the DS (dual screen) form factor a lot?

[glacial gust]

It's not gonna be $120-$130

[floral vessel]

I have trauma after having changed an superior LCD in a New 3DS XL

[silver idol]

The problem with that is the RK3588s is not Handheld Friendly.

[floral vessel]

definitely not friendly with handheld to much lines

[silver idol]

This is what I was trying to point out.

The RK3588s is basically a Mini ARM Decktop chipset. 😔

[sour olive]

Make an RG DS Neo

Problem solved

[floral vessel]

I recommend placing a ward in #1484118255177170974 It'll be good if it's true

[gleaming vine]

Yeah I know. It worked fine on the ACE, though

Which is a shame

And Anbernic for some reason doesn't use snapdragon

[silver idol]

I think it's a supplier thing. Anbernic has a reasonable relationship with their supplier and they don't carry Snapdragon's by default. Besides I'd rather have a Mainline Linux support which unfortunately Snapdragon's don't give us. 😔

[floral vessel]

Anything to replace that outdated h700

[undone hemlock]

Oh there’s a reason

Max Zhou is a cheap bastard

And Qualcomm isn't going to deal with him

[sour olive]

Snapdragon can get Linux though

Even then

Linux isn't the end all be all

[gleaming vine]

It isn't, but it's very nice to have

[floral vessel]

the most tempting feature is using Portmaster for me

easier to setup also

[naive prairie]

This is good! (But I have a thing against buying hardware now for possible future support that might not ever make it, which is why I'm still not recommending getting an RG557 for GameNative at the moment.)

[silver idol]

It's not Mainline Linux tho.

[sour olive]

You're not doing Ubuntu or Arch Linux on them though

So it doesn't matter

[silver idol]

It does, some performance and features are off the Table without Mainline Linux.

[sour olive]

But those features aren't available to begin with because everyone just uses Rocknix

Which is just a glorified ES-DE launcher running on Linux

[silver idol]

That's fair.

[silver idol]

Rocknix has multiple Mainline Linux builds.

The RK3566 devices for example.

Also yes the terminal does exist in ALL Linux builds.🤣

[silver idol]

Yeah I just want entry level Sega Saturn and below Emulation. Thankfully the RK3576 is powerful enough to give that to us.

[silver idol]

I mean don't you have to sign a contract with Qualcomm to get the latest Snapdragon's. If it were that easy EVERY company would be using some sort of Snapdragon Chipset.

[sour olive]

But you're not using it for that

You're just using it to play obscure games from the 70s and 80s

[undone hemlock]

Probably, I don't know. But that is even more of a reason Max Zhou won't deal with them.

[sour olive]

Max Zhou is just a Cheapskate

[floral vessel]

Reviews are already coming out en masse, and I didn't really like that the screen has a very blue tint; I suppose it's from prototype units, right?

[sour olive]

MagicX wins

[gleaming vine]

ES*

[sour olive]

Emulation Station Desktop Edition

[gleaming vine]

Rocknix doesn't use Desktop Edition

It uses plain ES

[sour olive]

That's even worse

No wonder the features were so limited

[gleaming vine]

It's constantly updated, as it's the fork batocera uses

[sour olive]

But I can't just transfer all the scraped info without having to do it all again because they use a different format

You're also stuck with RetroArch for everything

I prefer Standalone apps

Allows for better customization

[floral vessel]

stand alone for all? no like to manage cores?

[sour olive]

You're stuck with RetroArch

[sour olive]

Yes

I hate RetroArch and the people running it are very questionable

[gleaming vine]

Wut

Rocknix has integrated standalone apps

And I used the same card on Android ESDE

[sour olive]

It didn't work

I tried it

[gleaming vine]

Only thing that needed a symlink was the GameCube folder

For some reason ES DE changed it to another name

[floral vessel]

the frontend that uses magicX Daijisho is quite clean

[gleaming vine]

That's standalone flycast

[sour olive]

But not everything is standalone

I prefer to use Robert Broglia emulators

[gleaming vine]

That's fair. You can add arm64 emulators through ports

[sour olive]

Also I'm pretty sure that's just the core

[gleaming vine]

As long as they have an arm64 or appimage equivalent

Someone just got steam running through an appimage

[sour olive]

It's not as simple as putting the APK and installing though

Plus performance isn't there for Desktop apps

[floral vessel]

you both are debating different tastes everyone can emulate however they want

[sour olive]

Maybe if someone does Full Linux Desktop in the future

[gleaming vine]

I mean, both have pros and cons

[gleaming vine]

Exactly

[sour olive]

Rocknix is too limiting

Though I know some people prefer the Console Like feel

Granted I use ES-DE on Android anyway so I don't feel like I'm missing out on much

[floral vessel]

Isn't it annoying to configure each separate emulator in es-de?

[sour olive]

No because once I have it setup on my SD Card, it saves all my presets

It is an issue if you have it on the Internal Storage though

[floral vessel]

so you use things like obtainium¿

or you have also your versions on the backup?

[lament birch]

flycast SA is the standalone emulator

[sour olive]

Nope

I still need to get it at some point

But I usually don't have to update the apps much

[floral vessel]

luckily, I only have a few systems that i emulate

[lofty kestrel]

You do it once and you don't do it again.

If you come into this expecting it all to work with little to no setup, maybe get a switch lite or a real vita since a lot of vita games relaunched on switch

[floral vessel]

I'm not saying that because I like the convenience that GammaOS offers by default

i know Android isn't an out-of-the-box

I enjoyed putting it on an RG353V I was a bit rusty on ADB; it had been quite a while since I'd used

[silver idol]

I am using that!

[sour olive]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[silver idol]

Sadly I'm not fully aware either, it's just speculation on my end. 😅

[silver idol]

Everybody who works on Ports or engages with the mechanisms of Linux uses the Terminal.

Most End-Users don't use the Terminal, but people like myself do.

[sour olive]

Sudo Pac-Man

[silver idol]

You can even use it for FTP.

[sour olive]

FTP is too slow

[silver idol]

SSH

Or any File Manipulation.

[civic nexus]

oh but it is

I'm a linux boi from a linux hood we don't fuck with no android

[undone hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/wall-gif-24534315

[sour olive]

Android is based on Linux

[undone hemlock]

This is you right now

I wouldn't even bother

[sour olive]

Rad is just mad another person decided to not get the 476H

[undone hemlock]

Why would I care if someone doesn't want the 476H

There's no point in arguing with him about your Linux preferences. He's as thick as the brick wall in his beliefs

[civic nexus]

yes. but i like linux. android does not feel the same 😔

[civic nexus]

I'm not arguing though. just spitting bs in a thread. chill

[sour olive]

I mean, so is everyone else

[hushed acorn]

my wife just said "have you seen the rg awbernak vita?"

now she wants one

[fossil rose]

now she wants one

Plenty of weird takes in this channel, but after spending a ton of with the RG Vita, I'm a big fan! Your wife could do far worse than these

[hushed acorn]

She loves vitas. I guess she saw a video on tiktok or something

[undone hemlock]

Just warn her they this won't play that many actual vita games

[fossil rose]

TikTok is a bunch of things (I've never used it, to be fair), but it really moves retro handhelds with numbers. The AYN Thor has sold amazing numbers, from what they've told me, and spaces like TikTok are a big part of that. There's the odd retro handheld which breaks out of being a purely hobby device, and the public become aware.

Boy did it move units

[lament birch]

thor is just a great handheld

[gentle pulsar]

The pro has bluetooth 5.2, so I'm hoping for LC3

Know what other device randomly has BT 5.2? The Miyoo Flip V2

[fossil rose]

I'm the weird one who has spent far more time with the RG DS than I have the Thor. Mostly for the nostalgia of the form-factor though, I've had a great time with the DS library since I got them (to review)

[somber basin]

I’m not liking Dpad on bottom for Thor. Maybe I’ll try out the RG DS

[undone hemlock]

Just temper your expectations with that

[silver idol]

@civic nexus I can confirm this!!!

[somber basin]

I wish this device had the Oled 5.5 galaxy screen that Aya has used a lot in the past. Doesn’t need to be cutting edge like the new retroids, but for a cheap anbernic device, it’s hard to complain about LCD at this price point tbh.

[fossil rose]

I really, really, really love the RG DS. It was my (unofficial) choice of handhelds last year, and that's after reviewing handhelds like the Thor, the Odin 3, plenty of Anbernic's, AYANEO and so on.

If what you want is the DS library, upscaled (if you so choose), then you'll be happy. If you want it as a device to emulate more than just that system, maybe do more research.

As a purely DS system, I adore it!

[fallow root]

Lol 😂

[lament birch]

gamma and rocknix saved the DS

[undone hemlock]

Runs infinitely better on Rocknix than it does on Android

[undone hemlock]

“Saved” is a strong statement

For gamma

[somber basin]

Thanks! There’s a lot of systems I can play on a 3.5 inch screen so I’m sure it would be great for as many of those that I want to use it for.

[fossil rose]

They did. Gamma is a good friend and he and I have chatted plenty on that very topic, but even with stock it runs the DS library - all except 2/3 games, all at 2X

[lament birch]

i'm well aware, but who knows if they'd have ever figured out the screen latency

would have bugged me to no end

[undone hemlock]

GammaOS is an improvement over stock

[fallow root]

Was the stock os that bad?

[undone hemlock]

But it can only so much to eek out performance gains

[fossil rose]

Only for those of us who were sent them to review. When we reviewed it there was some issues. But they were fixed quickly. By the time it was in the consumers' hands it was sorted. Not ideal, by any means, but not what it was

[undone hemlock]

The RGDS should have been a Linux handheld from the beginning

[fallow root]

Ok I was curious because I didnt really hear too many complaints at first

[undone hemlock]

Oh there was much bitching and moaning over the specs

Almost as much as the vita

Still is some bitching

[fossil rose]

Oh there was some insane comments and posts about it. It was broken, but that wasn't the release build. We were given a update to install, and that sorted the worst of it (they have their own custom build of drastic).

There's still tons of users who hate it based on that early footage and a couple early reviews.

But now, take a look through the RG DS channel here, users are happy. If you're after DS, then its a beautiful handheld!

[fallow root]

Guess I wasnt really paying too much attention at the time

[undone hemlock]

Like I said. Temper your expectations

The chip is barely an better than the H700

[fossil rose]

Almost

This channel has been incredible to me. I've seen users change their names to stupid things like "I hate Anbernic". There was a few users who came in here each and every day to shit on it.

Its just...so weird to me. I can't imagine spending so much of my time and energy hating something. And the irony, something these people haven't held, or tried, or played. This channel is such a weird place. The funny thing is each dev or creator I know just views this channel as a shit-show, that's why you see so few names you'll recognize in here. They just think these people are idiots

[undone hemlock]

I’m still not impressed by the RGDS, but it’s not a bad handheld

Are you susceptible to flashing images? @fallow root

Like seizures and shit

[fallow root]

No lol

[undone hemlock]

This is golden sun DD this happens on both stock and gammaOS. This is a limitation of drastic

It’s because of the video driver

[fallow root]

Holy wtf 😳 thats crazy

Appreciate you checking first 🫡

[undone hemlock]

You can’t change it

Rocknix fixes the issue

The only real graphical issue ran into was NSMB

[fallow root]

Yikes glad theres a fix, hopefully this didn't cause any issues for people with epilepsy

[undone hemlock]

Sometimes the clouds will take on the color of things in front of them

I was fast forwarding in that video

Like if you’re doing a red coin challenge

Sometimes the clouds will turn red

I’ve only tested a few games

Golden Sun

NSMB

Mario vs donkey Kong

Mario kart

Mario vs donkey Kong was miserable

Touch inputs were hit and miss

I haven’t tried the castlevania game where you draw symbols

I wonder if albw will play on Rocknix

The fact it actually runs on the vita pro is actually impressive

People saw the RGDS and automatically assumed it would be yet another T820 handheld.

Well the renders should have given them a clue that it wasn't

No fan holes

No T820

People got their hopes up for the limited 3DS gameplay that was shown

Even though that gameplay was noticibly laggy

It's strictly a DS focused handeld

The fact it can run some 3DSis just a bonus

I still say showing off 3DS gameplay was a mistake

I still maintain they should have never put android on it either

There's too much overhead on android for the weak chip and low ram

It's also why there's no google services on the thing

Google services is basically a virus

It will kill any performance

Even stripped down play store alternatives eats a lot of system resources

[lament birch]

the max ram they could have gone for is 4GB, it wouldn't have made a huge difference, but it'd increase the price significantly

[undone hemlock]

If they release a 476DS I will happily buy it

But they won't

Especially now with the Rampocolypse

Maybe someday

It would not increase the size of the device that much to use that wonderful 4.7" screen

[lone imp]

so @raven sky did you use the newest branch of vita3k at all?
https://github.com/Vita3K/Vita3K-builds/releases

[dry kelp]

[raven sky]

Not latest. Going to try this one! Thank you

[silver idol]

Over the past 7 years I've found that Anberhaters never last. Also it's pretty sad how a group of people can hate Anbernic SO MUCH that they develop a media presence on YouTube that completely eclipses both AYN and Retroid combined.

[fossil rose]

If these idiots had a channel and following, then I'd understand why (monetizing their weird hatred)...but they're just literally nobodies! It's so weird

[silver idol]

I can't disagree here. I love my RG-DS but I honestly don't care about 3DS if I'm being honest. I wouldn't recommend the RG-DS unless you want more than just a DS.

[silver idol]

I know, I'm been dealing with these people since the OG Retroid Pocket 2. 🙄

It's incredibly weird.

Anbernic is the ONLY company I've ever seen with Anti-Fans.

It's like Max Zhou lives rent free in Anberhaters heads.

[fossil rose]

I take satisfaction in knowing that the very personalities in this scene I've seen them idolize in other channels or comments are the ones thinking they're total idiots

I don't know, I think it might be a maturity issue, or an age thing

[silver idol]

That's what I thought at first the then you start talking to term.

It's like touch some grass or get a hobby or something I dunno.

[fossil rose]

I've stopped myself writing back to some of these people more times than I can count. I'm not that invested in this...ecosystem I guess? So I can afford to not be kind when I see this. But neither am I really a reviewer, certainly not on the scale some of the people are in the hobby.

I don't have to watch my words, I can call the bullshit out when I see it. Writing articles is a hobby for me, so I'm lucky in that I don't have to tip-toe.

I think a few days back I just had enough of the weird, weird ranting in here. This channel is by far the worst I have seen people behave in here. Maybe it is because I'm not super Discord-y? IDK. @raven sky is very tired of me bringing it up, but I think there has to be something very wrong with someone to want to spend so much of their own time hating something.

That is really fucking weird in my eyes.

[silver idol]

I couldn't agree with you more. For example I'm not the biggest Retroid fan but I would never try to steer people any from them. One of the things these people need to realize is we FINALLY have choice. Back in 2011 all you had was Dingoo and Game Park Holdings. Now we have Anbernic, Powkiddy, GKD, Trimui, GameMT, MagicX, Retroid, Ayn, Aya Neo, GPD, OneXPlayer, and many other companies making solid Handhelds.

[tawny lynx]

You know you're late into an Anbernic device release cycle when the toxic positivity ramps up

[silver idol]

What Toxic Positivity?

[fossil rose]

https://giphy.com/gifs/bored-13SksYIeOh9HdC

[blazing bough]

I just mainly find it really weird when people feel the need to dictate what someone else should spend their money on. Be it being direct or passive aggressively.

Like they should know, they aren't doing anyone favors lol

[sour olive]

Ther irony about this is you guys are complaining about the people complaining and have been for the past 30 minutes

[blazing bough]

Funnily enough, most of the devices I hate are from Anbernic

[sour olive]

Yet are judging people for the exact same thing

[blazing bough]

but so are most of the devices I like

[sour olive]

Pot calling kettle black

[blazing bough]

Yeah, it's been mostly in here and the DS channel before release (tho it's been mostly turned around there as far as I can tell). Although I do feel most of the people in the server are good about it.

[sour olive]

They need to justify their purchases somehow

And put the blame on others for why people aren't interested in the product

It can't just be the device isn't very good. There has to be something other external factor.

[undone hemlock]

Max Zhou is always gonna be Max Zhou

People need to accept that

[raven sky]

I'm all good over here. I agree with most of your points, except as a review team, we can and will also call the BS when we see it. 😆

[undone hemlock]

He’s cheap and money hungry

[sour olive]

We don't need to accept mediocrity when they can release great devices as well

And they have released great devices in the past

[raven sky]

Their choices this year have been confusing. Let's go back to the H700 glory days.

476DS isn't a bad idea 😄

[thick orchid]

you forgot the device we really want

more Rk3326 device

[blazing bough]

lol

I hope other companies do better later this year

We need more mid range devices around this power

[blazing bough]

For the record before I forgot, I wasn't talking about you.

[sour olive]

I wasn't talking about you either

[blazing bough]

Wanted to type that earlier but was occupied to change what I was talking about earlier

[raven sky]

We really do need a lot more 3326 handhelds.

[silver idol]

NO BUY A THOR!!!

[silver idol]

That's fair.

[blazing bough]

It's funny that people kept telling me to even tho when I was in the RGDS waiting thread, I already owned a Thor

[silver idol]

Call out that Anbernic bullshit Stubb's!!!

[silver idol]

Nah I just want more responsive DS Emulation. Unfortunately only Linux has given me this so far.

[silver idol]

Like I always say buy what you want don't let haters sway you. Until a company gives me a DS with two 4:3 screens that are 960p (don't care if it's AMOLED or not) with Linux support my RG-DS is just fine.

[devout plinth]

you forgot to name your price

[blazing bough]

https://tenor.com/view/mike-myers-austin-powers-austin-one-million-dollars-1million-gif-19177211

[silver idol]

$500

[terse parrot]

https://anbernic.com/products/rgvita-rgvita-pro

Official page is live

[subtle shuttle]

I ain’t saying shit, all I’m gonna do is just post these 2 prices and leave it at that.

[ember root]

I feel like that’s not too bad no?

[naive prairie]

$100 for a significant downgrade from Anbernic’s own 2022/3 T618 devices is a hard sell, I think. The Pro can lean on having Linux support, but the base RG Vita is just bad value.

[devout plinth]

the base is like... normal, nothing to write home about

in 2 months it will be better with sales and and coupons

I feel like they do this just to fulfil their obligation with unisoc to get their discount

[naive prairie]

Coupons won’t save it from being an Android device with 3GB of RAM, unfortunately.

[silver idol]

If it where Linux based with a RK3566 3GB of RAM would be fine but 3GB of RAM paired with anything above Android 10 is unacceptable.

[undone hemlock]

Pass it along to your Anbernic contact. I’ll sign a release for the idea.

The only condition I have is they send me a device as payment

[civic nexus]

Are there any 3566 devices with 3GB RAM? 3GB on Linux is generous af 😂

[undone hemlock]

If you could slap Linux on the T618 one then you have an ultimate port master device

[civic nexus]

does this imply Vita Pro will have retro gray color scheme? 🤔

[short goblet]

RG DS has 3GB and RK3568

[undone hemlock]

Yes and thrives on Linux

[short goblet]

no, the pro just has white and black

[undone hemlock]

What it should have been in the first place, as I’ve said from the beginning

Android never made any sense for the RGDS

[devout plinth]

If i have to guess, they couldn't finish their linux firmware in time

they rushed that thing out

[undone hemlock]

There’s waaaaaaay too much overhead from Android even without the play store included

[civic nexus]

ah yeah figured. I wish they made gray pro 😔

[undone hemlock]

I…. Need sleep

I read that without the “r”

[lament birch]

highest stock is 2GB for 3566

but 3566 can recognize up to 8GB

[frosty imp]

I'm curious to see if someone will eventually get the Vita Pro to run Steam over Linux, heh

[lofty kestrel]

if rocknix has touchscreen support and runs the vita3k appimage, this is a god-tier device

[silver idol]

No I'm just trying to say that newer versions of Android are RAM Guzzlers. 😅

[silver idol]

That's what the RK3576 and A311D and A311D2 are supposed to be.

[silver idol]

Well it already has one of those.

[undone hemlock]

One of those is true

[lofty kestrel]

touchscreen support?

[undone hemlock]

Yes

You can thank the RGDS for that

[lofty kestrel]

oh.... so it can play ds and 3ds properly?

[undone hemlock]

One of those is true

[lofty kestrel]

😄

[undone hemlock]

Well partially true

[lofty kestrel]

but there is a lime3ds and azahar arm linux executable.

[undone hemlock]

Mario vs donkey Kong is rather miserable

Sometime touches won’t register

But I don’t have a precision stylus

[lofty kestrel]

hmmm

[undone hemlock]

So it’s probably is pebcac

[lofty kestrel]

what an abbreviation

[undone hemlock]

Problem exists between console and chair

It still doesn’t have the power to run anything but the lightest 3DS titles

[lofty kestrel]

so mario 3d land, kart 7, and maybe legend of legacy?

[undone hemlock]

I haven’t tried any 3DS but I’d does fix a flashing issue on golden sun that drastic has because the video driver it has

[lofty kestrel]

ohhhh okay

[undone hemlock]

Like that game runs butter smooth

And it’s a notoriously difficult DS game to emulate

I am curious as to how it handles albw

[undone hemlock]

Well that answers that question

Not available on nightly builds

[restive herald]

GUYS

We finally have the price

https://anbernic.com/products/rgvita-rgvita-pro?variant=48248564449537

[lofty kestrel]

funny that this came out right when vita3k got a gamechanging update

maybe anbernic slipped them some cash to speed up development or something. 1280x800 wipeout 2048 runs like butter on the i5 6th gen computer here in the lab

[restive herald]

Oh I haven't seen it yet

[lofty kestrel]

SF vs. Tekken is beautiful too

[restive herald]

110 for base without the sale and 150 for pro with the sale

[lofty kestrel]

maybe the price is also high because they might have paid for software development too.

[restive herald]

Maybe they should hire someone better....

👀 maybe the g man

[lofty kestrel]

if retail units drop and they have a "Vita3k for rgVita" or v. 3936 title on the app, we will know lol

[undone hemlock]

Glad I'm not beating my head against a wall trying to test 3DS on rocknix

[teal sonnet]

Any reviews of the Pro yet by US reviewers?
There's always something lost with the foreign reviews translations

[undone hemlock]

They did a quick look and tear down on the stream last night

The vita was initially going to be named the RG555

As much as I clown on Anbernic naming

That would have gone over better than calling them vitas

[naive prairie]

That's just its actual standard Anbernic Android handheld name. RG55(5.5 inch screen)5(T618 soc).

[whole ice]

Should have just been the RGPSPPro

Maybe RGPSPPPPro

Retro Gaming PlayStation Portable PP Pro

[blazing bough]

Ehh

It should look like PSP then

I don't care as much if it can play the systems it's named after

But it should definitely look the part

[whole ice]

I guess that makes sense if we only buy these to look at

[blazing bough]

I mean I'm gonna be buying this to play psp

But I don't want to it to be called RGPSP or whatever you suggested lol

That's a significantly worse name to me

I'd be bitchin why it isn't called Vita or something like that if it looks like a vita

Not saying it shouldn't be called something else just tho

[sour olive]

RG PSP Lite and PSP Lite Pro

[blazing bough]

Like for those names, I want dedicated psp look-a-likes ya know?

That would also be another day 1 buy for me

[whole ice]

I mean they're equally dumb

It's dumb to call it a vita that doesn't play vita

It's dumb to call it a PSP and make it look like a vita

It's just dumb

[near locust]

Is like having a thinner and slimmer version of a rg slide and not call it something like rg slide go or rg go

[whole ice]

yeah, i mean at least their numbering had some kind of logic behind it, when they branch out to words is when they struggle, lol

[regal needle]

i don't think people would cry this much if it was rg555

[blazing bough]

For sure

[whole ice]

yeah, or just pick a random ass name. RG Dragon, lol

[regal needle]

tbh i don't really care about the name as long as it does what i want

my only issue with it for now (other than the price ofc) is the lack of cooling that's why i'm still waiting for the full review to know if it's a big problem or not

[silver idol]

Calling it the RGP would have been fine.

[sour olive]

RGPPSSPP

[untold hazel]

I WANT RG 3DS 🙁

[whole ice]

But for it only to play DS

[thick orchid]

We always did..I dunno why we had the h700 devices at all

[gentle pulsar]

Did they backpeddle the early bird pricing?

[lofty kestrel]

Can you guys chill #2
Lol

It's just a bloody gaming device. Literal first world commodity

[blazing bough]

no

unless you mean the mistake at the start about "99-109 non pro, 139-149 pro" as "99-139 non pro, 109-149 pro"

[fossil rose]

That was a miscommunication between Anbernic and RH. There's been no change, it was just a mistake on their rep's behalf to start with. It also got 'fixed' to what it really is quite soon after

[gentle pulsar]

So the pro is 139 with early bird?

[undone hemlock]

Nope, they don’t show the pricing until that timer reaches 0

[thick orchid]

no

[sour olive]

Just get a 476H for $150 instead

https://www.reddit.com/r/SBCGaming/s/3XyY9hTTcB

Damn

A high end Portmaster game

[subtle shuttle]

…Wait hold up, there’s an animal crossing pc port?

I didn’t even know about that in the first place, damn.

[sour olive]

It just got released recently

[gentle pulsar]

Geez, that means the gkd pixel 2 could run it

[lofty kestrel]

It was originally an n64 game called animal forest. Anything can run it already

[thick orchid]

no. no linux

[sour olive]

True but the GameCube version has extra content since it's basically the Plus version

[ember root]

I literally just found out that animal crossing was an n64 port blowing my mind rn wtfff

[sour olive]

Even if they did

You'd need a powerful device to run it

[devout plinth]

no you don't, decomp is quite easy to run, it's not emulation

considering AC is already "playable" on H700, I can see this hit 60fps easily

[frosty ferry]

when you take away the emulation processing, the game itself isnt that hard to run

im pretty sure h700 device is stronger then a gc lol

[blazing bough]

alright base rg vita bought

pretty good for $80

[long wigeon]

Anbernic launches worst handheld ever

Asked to leave the market

[silver idol]

Nah Anbernic is here to stay.

[silver idol]

Which one there's hundreds of them. 😆

[sour olive]

[subtle shuttle]

Buddy, they’ve already released multiple “worst handhelds” (whether they actually be the worst, or just worst for their price point, or worst in quality, etc) and still said no every time people asked them to leave…Mainly because people still made constant excuses for them and said “no, it’s actually totally fine, it’s great even” only to later say “oh this is much better, the old handheld was awful” once Anbernic makes an effectively better version of the same general type of handheld.

[long wigeon]

Yeah and this one is somehow worse

[carmine sage]

Just released rk3588s

[subtle shuttle]

Now is it actually one, or is it a rebadged weaker chipset?

Remember, MagicX weren’t the only guys falling for that stuff in the slightest.

[carmine sage]

Fair point I should open it up and look

But if Amber Nick is willing to use any Rock chip at all, they're still under the same risk. So why not use 3588s?

[prisma niche]

LG Wing second screen..

Oh wow a crypto vault

[subtle shuttle]

Oh great, so it’s got a useless feature for an emulation handheld.

[carmine sage]

Yea my video going up later today but it has android 15 but is super locked down

[silver idol]

Who ever said this!? Sadly Anbernic is only company making Retro Handhelds so unfortunately for Anberhaters Anbernic has a dedicated following for this reason.

[lofty kestrel]

eh. it's a rockchip that outruns everything up to around sd870?

could be good. people are going to hate it for having a weird name/company/etc. because reasons. same ole same ole.

[silver idol]

That has a RK3588s in it?

The only problem with having a RK3588 Handheld is it would have to most likely be treated like a PC Handheld in terms of construction.

[kindred widget]

Always bet on Anbernic

[silver idol]

The only other companies that are making Retro Gaming devices now are Aya Neo, GameMT, MagicX, and sometimes Trimui.

[lament birch]

don't forget Ayn and Retroid

[devout plinth]

are they "retro" though

or just modern handhelds

[lament birch]

if you're going to list Aya Neo then it's only fair that you list Ayn and Retroid no?

and we also have the clones

[subtle shuttle]

True, plus let’s not forget that Ayn and Retroid are still making their handhelds with non-modern system emulation in mind (not just modern), and the fact that switch and pc emulation is getting better with time is frankly coincidental (plus, if we were to count any type of modern game support as “making something not retro”, then literally any game that supports Portmaster games is technically a modern handheld).

[lament birch]

RP4 is still for sale new at $140 US with a D900, very comparable to many anbernic handhelds

[carmine sage]

https://youtu.be/R9SRHIgscro

[sacred narwhal]

Anbernic haters exist because Anbernic dominates the budget space and those haters don't want to buy higher end like Retroid or AYN for whatever reason (price, android etc). With powkiddy gone its basically just Anbernic and Trimui. There are other smaller brands but their quality is much worse.

[lament birch]

speaking of Trimui, miyoo still does exist, although their latest handhelds have not been movers

[sacred narwhal]

Yea Miyoo exist but they basically only made 1 successful product which is Miyoo Mini and their variations. Don't get me wrong the Mini V4 is still selling like hot cakes but nobody is expecting any innovation or new products from them anytime soon. We probably see a Mini V5 at some point lol

[glacial gust]

Isn't this chipset supposed to be expensive and powerful
Why does this looks so cheap

[lofty kestrel]

Powkiddy isnt gone. They work directly with trimui, gamemt, and kinhank now through royobeila

We have the ex8 because powkiddy footed the construction bill

[sacred narwhal]

Correct but they aren't designing the products.

Kinda like how Iphone are from Apple even though they contracted and built by foxconn

[kindred widget]

Mangmi is pretty gud

[sacred narwhal]

Yea Mangmi are good but I was hesitant to label them as "budget" because they only release two products. One that cost 100 and one that cost 240.

[blazing bough]

Their first product is budget but the second is right in the overpriced category

[sour olive]

TrimUI and MagicX say hi

And Miyoo

[sour olive]

People dislike it because because it's too expensive and underpowered. Rockchip has more powerful chips but they're not using them.

[undone hemlock]

To be jank

[kindred widget]

And overpriced

For some of them

[undone hemlock]

Calling out the jank isn't hating.

But yes there are some chronic Anbernic haters here

Like don't buy them if they make something you don't like

[kindred widget]

476DS soon

558 someday

[undone hemlock]

And I'm an Anbernic shill mind you

Can you be called a shill for one device though?

[kindred widget]

Yea

You can shill a specific device. Doesn't mean you have to glaze the whole company.

[sacred narwhal]

Thats what logical people do. Those aren't haters. Haters are the ones who stay on reddit or discord and mald all day long about why Anbernic didn't make the product they want

[undone hemlock]

The 476H is a device worth glazing

[kindred widget]

Just waiting on the 558

[undone hemlock]

That is not a device worth glazing

[kindred widget]

Unfortunately given Anbernic's pricing I probably wouldn't be able to even afford it.

[undone hemlock]

Only for that screen

Shitty OLED is shitty OLED

[kindred widget]

558 12GB RAM at $450 it's so over

[sacred narwhal]

I'm not going to buy the RG Vita. But I don't need to tell everyone and their mother about how Anberic sux lol.

[kindred widget]

Probably

[undone hemlock]

I'm not either because this thing is overpriced for the specs

[kindred widget]

I don't care at all for the 4:3 screen Anbernic does I'm only in it for their 16:9 misadventures

[blazing bough]

I haven't bought a 4:3 in a good while

[lofty kestrel]

We were talking about that rk3588s handheld dude

The one that could use a good emmc wiping and replacing with a basic android image

[glacial gust]

Any mods can explain why #rh-media-feed doesn't show articles anymore ? I loved reading that

[blazing bough]

The Gameforce Ace?

[undone hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/im-watching-stalking-lurking-watching-peek-gif-7914122

You know what’s a good 4:3 handheld?

[blazing bough]

the main reason I haven't gotten this is

[undone hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/pillow-fight-2-gif-1670844102378618512

[blazing bough]

why is the top and bottom bezels uneven

[undone hemlock]

Because Anbernic

[blazing bough]

That's also the main reason why I stopped using the 505 lol

If it was a special design with like a logo or something I wouldn't mind

I'm not very hung up on specs and stuff

Design stuff like this tho bug the shit outta me

[sour olive]

Anbernic isn't using that though

Max is too cheap to use high end Rockchip

But no one would have complained if the RG Vita Pro had it

[undone hemlock]

You realize that the Rocknix team is more than likely working on it?

[sour olive]

I'm talking about the RG Vita Pro

[undone hemlock]

You realize that the Rocknix team is probably working on it?

[sour olive]

What?

[undone hemlock]

Bringing their OS to the RG555 pro

[sour olive]

I mistyped

I meant Rockchip

Anbernic could use High End Rockchip but won't because Max is cheap

[undone hemlock]

That thing can handle albw. That’s not an easy thing to emulate

[sour olive]

Albw?

[undone hemlock]

3DS Zelda

[sour olive]

Eh

You can get a better chipset for the same price

That's the issue

[undone hemlock]

It’s as demanding as golden sun DD is on the RGDS

Like it or not that is an accomplishment

[sour olive]

Linux is the only thing but you can get Linux on Snapdragon with some work

3DS Zelda isn't that demanding

[undone hemlock]

That particular one is

[sour olive]

It's a 2.5D Zelda game

[undone hemlock]

It’s still one of the more taxing games on lower spec’d hardware

[sour olive]

Are we talking about the RK3588?

[undone hemlock]

If that’s the one one in the RG555 pro, then yes

I will not call that thing a vita

[sour olive]

The RG Vita Pro has a RK3576

[undone hemlock]

And it ran albw just fine

[sour olive]

Also no one is playing 3DS on Single Screens anymore

Would be interesting what an Anbernic 3DS would be like though?

[kindred widget]

476DS

Its his brand

[sour olive]

476DS would be better than RG Vita Pro

[kindred widget]

Yea

[sour olive]

And it would be Rad

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tsss-drum-band-gif-7320811

It would most likely be a 478DS though

Since if we go but their previous release schedules, the RG558 will release within the next couple of months

Granted everything could be delayed due to all the shortages

[kindred widget]

Chances of being able to afford a 558?

[sour olive]

$350

I'm guessing it's going to use the same Dimensity Chip as the one on the AyaNeo Pocket Play

[glacial gust]

Lmao

That's more expensive than the base ayn Odin 3 which has the snapdragon 8 elite

[thick orchid]

has that been a thing?

552

then we skipped to 556

then 557

[sour olive]

This is the same company charging $150 for a RK3576

[sour olive]

It has been for the past 2 years

[thick orchid]

So RG558 with dpad on top when

[sour olive]

Never

[thick orchid]

but but i want anbernic jank

also i currently really hate my Odin2 pro for PSP

the dpad on bot is nto working for me

[gleaming vine]

Is this the crypto device that has no l2 and r2?

[gleaming vine]

Yes, it is

[gleaming vine]

What's the point of a higher end dimensity chip? They don't play nice with switch and PC emulation and the current one they use (8300) can already run anything else

Anbernic should continue focusing on form factors but using actual good chips and not e-waste

Like this

And by good I don't mean top of the line, but stuff that makes sense like a rg ds with the 3576, so it can play both DS and 3DS

Or this with a 3588s or d8300 for the pro

[sour olive]

What's the point of an Odin 3? This is a bad question.

[frosty imp]

Hoping you're right, heh. The harshness of the consumer electronics market has me worried

[thick orchid]

i think it was more the point the Dimensity chips arent as well supported compared to Snapdragon

so having higher power dont mean its better?

[sour olive]

Anbernic doesn't use Snapdragon

[thick orchid]

ye i know

also pocket play omg

[undone hemlock]

Technically the D8300 is more powerful than the 865. But it's shitty drivers make it terrible for higher than PS2

[thick orchid]

ye thats what the guy was saying

[sour olive]

We're talking about a RG558

At what we think it's going to have

I don't see Anbernic switching to Snapdragon anytime soon

[silver idol]

I mentioned both Trimui and MagicX however their not Anbernic in terms of Innovation, Build Quality, or Output. Miyoo doesn't even come close to scratching the Anbernic itch.

[sour olive]

Plus their RG55 line is their High End line

So of course it gets the higher end specs

[sour olive]

Anbernic doesn't really innovate though

They're like the Wish.com version of other companies

[undone hemlock]

Anbernic has its niche

[sour olive]

A lot of things have their Niche

[undone hemlock]

If you want something better or to your tastes then start your own handheld business

[sour olive]

Bad Take

Why should we settle for mediocrity?

Anbernic is capable of releasing great hardware

Would you still enjoy the 476H if it had a T618?

[silver idol]

Let's go down the list

1. Anbernic is the ONLY company to make a sliding Handheld

2. Anbernic is the ONLY company to make a Magnetic Hinge that beats the competition. Plus it don't break.

3. Anbernic is the ONLY company to custom make a 4:3 screen that's 120hz.

4. Anbernic remade a DS from scratch.

5. Anbernic has reintroduced the Circular D-Pad into the Retro Handheld space.

No other company has accompished these feats. 🤣

[sour olive]

Anbernic didn't remake the DS

They made a Demake

[silver idol]

Are you still on this grind!? Just stop it already! 🤣

[sour olive]

Bro you only play old ass games

Of course you don't care

[silver idol]

There's an old video of them building an entire DS from scratch.

[tacit sage]

What’s wrong with old ass games? Don’t yuck someone’s yum man.

[sour olive]

He's content with weak ass hardware because he only plays ColecoVision

Anbernic made a Sliding Handheld but it wasn't great and no one bought it

The circular D-Pad was only ever used on one device and they never brought it back

Also doesn't run Saturn Games

120hz on 4:3 is nice for Black Frame Insertion but most people aren't going to use it

[silver idol]

A lot of us bought a slide.

[sour olive]

It still bombed

[silver idol]

Where are you getting your information from?

[sour olive]

Just people a few people bought it doesn't mean it didn't fail

[silver idol]

Based on what sources?

It probably did sell poorly but you need recipients to back that up.

[silver idol]

You haven't made a single point yet.

👇 : This is what you originally said. How are any of the things I mentioned above not innovations?

What other companies have done the things I've mentioned above?

[kindred widget]

I'm tired of missing arguments

[sour olive]

Let's argue about Balls Anbernic vs David Mangmi

Which one is the better shill?

[lusty adder]

Better *

[thick orchid]

which device had the magnetic hinge

[silver idol]

RG35XXSP, RG34XXSP, and the RG-DS.

[thick orchid]

were they magnetic

holy

[silver idol]

The hinge part is.

Anbernic is using Magnets to add torque to the hinge.

[thick orchid]

of the 3 devices, only the 35XX sp was something

i hated the 34xx

and the Ds that cant ds

[devout plinth]

https://youtu.be/KsEIl87A9Yk?si=2xu9a9SWgWPue9sj

[sour olive]

That was by Revo

There has been rumors that they became Anbernic but there hasn't been any concrete evidence

Even so

[devout plinth]

K team, which is Max Zhou team

[sour olive]

It doesn't matter if it never came to fruition

[sour olive]

Same Team, Different Company

[silver idol]

That's the video I was talking about. I was going to @ you but I didn't think it was worth it.

[sour olive]

Nothing isn't OnePlus despite having the same creator

[silver idol]

Still in the backlog.

[sour olive]

DS FPGA would be neat

[sour olive]

I'm not sure as that board was from years ago

[silver idol]

It's a hardware recreation of the DS no Emulation.

[sour olive]

Revo has been gone for a while now

FPGA is Hardware Emulation

[silver idol]

What does this mean?

[thick orchid]

RK3576 in Rg552 when

[sour olive]

FPGA hardware emulation uses field-programmable gate arrays to physically reconfigure logic circuits to mimic original hardware, such as vintage consoles or prototype chips, offering near-identical behavior and low latency. Unlike software emulation, which runs code sequentially, FPGA emulation operates in parallel, replicating original hardware at the hardware level.

The Analogue Pocket is an FPGA Handheld for example

[silver idol]

You said Revo has been gone for a while now.