ANBERNIC RG Vita, RG Vita Pro

[thick orchid]

just like there is no Batman v Superman dawn of justice

or a borderlands Movie

[keen heath]

Okay I'm with it now 😂

There is no borderlands on vita

[thick orchid]

right, it would be awesome if the game is on the vita and able to just coop with anyone

but alas we only have it on the switch

and all windows handheld

[lilac bramble]

do we know the price for these yet?

[undone hemlock]

Nope

[devout plinth]

here's your price, enjoy!

[silver idol]

It has 4GB of RAM.

[quick cloak]

4GB RAM is Pro level now

So when we get back to 6/8/12 we will need new names for devices obviously

Ultra, Mega, Zabba, stuff like that

[terse parrot]

24GB could be Shabba

https://tenor.com/view/shabba-praise-amen-can-i-get-an-amen-preach-gif-17678908309163755441

[floral vessel]

cool you finally got your unit

but is more retro color than the ceramic white you want

[floral vessel]

RG Peak?

[quick cloak]

Lol, RG Nevergonnagiveyouup

[cunning bane]

6 laughing emojis, and 18 eye emojis

618

who planned for this

[naive prairie]

The RG Vita has 3GB of RAM. Only the Pro has 4.

[sour olive]

Anbernic needs to release what people actually want

A RG DS Pro

[untold hazel]

https://giphy.com/gifs/1SfxXOJ0Q2Xni

[lone imp]

they release whatever the market in SEA wants first.

we're a tiny sub-5% of their actual market

the southeast asian retrogaming economy is way more saturated than it is in the west. they still have walk-in arcades with old KOF 2000 and ps2-era beatmania machines that middle-aged gen-x'ers hop on after work

[sour olive]

I have a Round1 arcade around 10 minutes from where I live

[lone imp]

lol round 1. oh boy... i went to a birthday party at one of those.

[silver idol]

I already know this. My point is 3GB of RAM should be perfectly fine for Emulation on the Base Model. 4GB on the "Pro" will be better for Android and Native Applications.

[sour olive]

It's a Japanese Arcade Chain

They started to expand to the Western Market

[lone imp]

most of the games were android-based, except for some old 3d shooters like House of the Dead and Jurassic Park.

[sour olive]

Pretty nice Arcade

Your location sucks then

Mine has an abundance of Neo Geo Cabs

Plus some modern SNK games as well

I also saw some Capcom stuff like Tatsunoko vs Capcom

Which was pretty surprising

Also Initial D

https://tenor.com/view/eurobeat-driving-racing-anime-gif-5752583

[naive prairie]

We've seen in early reviews that the regular RG Vita model was specifically having trouble emulating Vita games that were capable of running on other handhelds with the same T618 chip but more RAM (like the RG505). The context here is that Anbernic video showing Vita emulation on the Pro model. Emulating PS1 and PSP, etc., should be workable - although I personally consider anything running on Android past about Android 9 or so without at least 4GB of physical RAM to be a pretty miserable experience.

[gleaming vine]

That's why this will be an amazing Linux device

[fossil rose]

Sorry, this one is the base one (in Retro Gray), the white Pro model hasn't shipped to me yet. Or to any other reviewers so far as I know

[thick orchid]

i have 4 odin2 pros.......i decided can afford to break one, given odin 3 is already out

i dont need this vita pro anymore

i thank you for your patience. till the next device

[sour olive]

[thick orchid]

And this is why you are awesome

[sour olive]

Go play PSP at 5X then

[thick orchid]

nah, i will play 2x with upscaled textures

[sour olive]

5X with Upscaled Textures

[mental needle]

2x stock textures

Take it or leave it

[kindred widget]

Still waiting on the 558 dawg

[sour olive]

558 would be great

But I just bought the 557

I mean I can just sell it and upgrade but still

[naive prairie]

How do you like the 557?

[sour olive]

It's a pretty nice device

Pretty comfy with the grips on it and powerful enough to play any Modern Android game and Emulation/GameHub

It shows Anbernic can make a good high end device

[naive prairie]

I have a TPU shell on mine just because it's too slippery without one. Don't need it for comforrt, I think, just so that I don't drop it.

[sour olive]

I meant the grips already on the device

But yeah

It does have like a glossy feeling

[naive prairie]

I've been messing with GameNative on mine. If I can get a game to load at all, it works farily well. Main issue is getting a game to even load ... the sadness of having a Mali GPU ...

[thick orchid]

do i get foldable screen handheld?

[mental needle]

No

[kindred widget]

Probably

But if the 557 has your needs covered there's no real point in upgrading

Its almost a year old so we hopefully should see a follow up

Unless Anbernic hits us with a quick 1-2 and gives us the RGSwitch powered by the T618 with 4GBs of RAM and 32GBs of storage.

[tawny lynx]

558 z1 extreme

Make it happen Maxbernic

[devout plinth]

testified, retro gaming here is huge where I live I have 2 arcade places and about 10 gaming shops within walking distance 😆, also internet cafes, lan gaming and rental playstation cafes

I've seen gaming in australia (assuming the same to most of the west) most people play alone, at home, and buy stuff online, it's just sad

[kindred widget]

Yea man

That's my god given right

[devout plinth]

anbernic knows its market

[sour olive]

You can't survive from only a certain demographic

Otherwise they wouldn't go through the effort in making US and European Warehouses

[silver idol]

Okay, I do have to admit newer versions of Android are definitely more RAM hungry.

[silver idol]

I know right! The Pro model will be great for Linux and Android. I'm using mine for working on Portmaster and Android ports.

[spring orchid]

honestly this just seems like anberics answer to the mangmi air x

if it's released at $100 then it's a fair comparison I think

[silver idol]

Hopefully It'll be $100 (Base) and $120-$130 (Pro) respectively. @spring orchid

[spring orchid]

honestly i think the base should be under $100

otherwise why not get the air x

[silver idol]

Because the Snapdragon 662 is a weaker chipset.

https://gadgetversus.com/processor/unisoc-tiger-t618-vs-qualcomm-sm6115-snapdragon-662/

[spring orchid]

snapdragon has better drivers tho

also the t618 isn't that much better

i think theres very few games that would be unplayable on the air x but playable on the vita base

there might be a bit better performance on the vita but not by much

for the most part i think they can run the same games

also the air x has much better ergonomics

i love how it feels in my hands

much better than a slab

[silver idol]

Worst D-Pad and Face Buttons tho. Plus more Sega Saturn and 3DS games are playable on T618-like Handhelds. Super Mario 3D World runs slower on the Snapdragon 662 than it does on a T618 or A311D.

Plus the Mangmi Air X is $89 plus S&H.

[spring orchid]

the dpad feels nice to me and I like the buttons

[sour olive]

You guys are going to be so disappointed when the price finally gets announced

[silver idol]

Couldn't care less either way.

[devout plinth]

couldn't

[silver idol]

That's what I meant to say. 😅

[keen shell]

where?

[silver idol]

Scratch that $99 plus S&H
https://mangmi.com/products/mangmi-air-x

[hallow willow]

Yeah it's 99 plus shipping for me 😄

Price went up months back

[keen shell]

same

[silver idol]

@hallow willow Yeah I double checked at one point it was $89 plus S$H.

My point is if the RG-VITA base is sold at $100 it would be a perfectly responsible price.

[keen shell]

Oh, yeah. In the reviews I have seen the Air X looks to be much higher quality, has nice grips, great controls and decent power. In my eyes, especially compared to the real PS Vita, the RG Vita looks just cheap and the specs are weak.

[devout plinth]

hmm which review is it? the air x is in no way "high quality"

[keen shell]

RGC praised it for the price. Also, I wrote it looks to be much higher quality, not that it's a high quality handheld. If I don't have the device in my hand, I cannot judge over a camera.

[dry kelp]

If it's sub $100
Reasonable in price
But not the best quality

(RG Vita)

[kindred widget]

120

Its a 300 IQ play by Max Zhou

[dry kelp]

[kindred widget]

Its a part of the 2026 strategy

Overprice the device now and profit later

You stagger in awe now but when the RAM noose tightens further everyone but Anbernic is gonna be raising prices

Always bet on Anbernic

[hallow willow]

2026 strategy? It's always been the anbernic strat 😄

[kindred widget]

Ehhhh depends

For their mid range and high end lines yea that's the story

Low end looks decently priced

[naive prairie]

So ... I assume still no prices?

[kindred widget]

In these times?

The promise of an upcoming device good enough

[naive prairie]

That's Ayaneo strategy.

[kindred widget]

The code R1.

Doesn't fucking exist does it?

The ayaneo strategy is throwing shit at the wall and hoping something sticks

[quick cloak]

MagicX waiting on Anbernic to drop RG Vita price, Anbernic waiting on MagicX to drop Two Dream Price.

[high junco]

I need anbernic to drop out real quick

[sacred narwhal]

I have the Air X. It isn't a high quality device. The plastic feels kind of cheap especially on triggers. But over the value is good and screen is nice.

[naive prairie]

For under $100, you should basically be happy that it turns on in the first place. (Okay, an exaggeration, but only slightly.)

[sacred narwhal]

Because the Mangmi X received a lot of praises, as its deserve but that doesn't mean the build quality is good. They had to cut corners somewhere to get that price

[devout plinth]

with the early bird price, yeah, good value for money, now it's just meh

[hallow willow]

hmm I'd still say the Air X is decent value now, though not as much as the early bird ofc

[silver idol]

Compared to other budget Vita-likes the RG-VITA at least looks and sounds superior to the The Mangmi Air X and Trimui Smart Pro S. This comparison gets even worse for the first two once you bring the Pro Version into this comparison. However this can all be blown out of the water based on pricing.

[teal sonnet]

The Air X has might have a few things going for over the RG Vita , first and huge is driver support second I still think it will be much cheaper , I’m guessing $120 for base Vita and $150 for Pro , probably wrong but that’s what makes sense to me

[silver idol]

Yeah don't get me wrong the Snapdragon 662 has the better more sophisticated GPU but in terms of Emulation it doesn't do much better than the T618 due to it's lack of CPU power.

For example 3DS and Sega Saturn are more playable on a T618 then the Snapdragon 662.

Although it's a bit of a wash when comparing lower end Chipsets.

It's like the RK3326 (RG351) vs MediaTek MT6580 (RP2) from some years back.

[sour olive]

Mental Gymnastics to try to justify an Inferior device

[silver idol]

What Mental Gymnastics? Within a $100-$130 price point (if we're going based on Price to Performance ratios) the RG-VITA is the better deal.

[sour olive]

Mangmi is better for support

[silver idol]

The same comparison can be made of the RG-DS vs the MagicX Zero 40.

[silver idol]

What support? The RG-VITA is going to have Rocknix and GammaOS. Also the T618 has somewhat better Emulation performance than the Snapdragon 662.

[sour olive]

It's not that much better where it's worth it to pay more than the Mangmi

Also Linux is only on the Pro model

[silver idol]

We don't have a price yet.

[sour olive]

You already know it's going to be more than Mangmi

I'll be shocked if it isn't

[silver idol]

Also I already know that the Pro Model is the only one that will have Linux Support.

[sour olive]

Pro Model doesn't have a T618

[silver idol]

I dunno man.

The Pro Model has the RK3576. I know this.

The same comparisons I made for the T618 mostly apply to the RK3576.

Basically the RK3576 is going to be a better A311D with better Multi Core performance than the T618.

[sour olive]

But you were specifically talking about the Base Model

[silver idol]

The Kernel Support should be better.

[sour olive]

Pro is also going to be cost way more where it's not worth it

[silver idol]

I'm talking about both.

[undone hemlock]

We got a price finally?

[silver idol]

No

Unfortunately

[sour olive]

It would be to the point the 476H would be better to get

Don't tell Rad I said that

477M still better

[undone hemlock]

I’m fucking in the chat

[sour olive]

No way

I didn't know

[silver idol]

He's right here tho! 🤣

Why you gotta be like that?

[sour olive]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-joke-ranier-wolfcastle-mc-bain-the-simpsons-stand-up-comedy-gif-4372917

[silver idol]

I get it.

[undone hemlock]

I wouldn’t get the 476H or any other 4.7” model for 16:9

[sour olive]

557 Supremacy

[undone hemlock]

There are better handhelds for that

[silver idol]

Either way the RG-VITA is definitely a Me Handheld.

*RG-VITA Pro

[undone hemlock]

Why would you want to play 16:9 content on a 4:3 screen?

[sour olive]

RG Vita is for like 5 people

[undone hemlock]

That’s just stupid

[sour olive]

So you're saying the 476H isn't the greatest

I knew it

[silver idol]

I want to go back to Portmaster and work on Native Android ports.

[sour olive]

Get an Odin 2 Portal with ROCKNIX

Best Linux Handheld

[gleaming vine]

The mangmi can eventually get linux, where Saturn is way better though. When? Who knows, though

[undone hemlock]

Not for 16:9 content, no

[silver idol]

Already have the Odin 2 Portal, and I use it for GameHub. Plus I like having different form factors for Handhelds.

[sour olive]

Dual Boot

Rocknix would be on an SD Card anyway

So you can switch between Android and Linux at any point

[silver idol]

I've definitely heard that Rocknix is in works for the Mangmi Air X.

[silver idol]

All True, but I still like the idea of a bigger thicker PS-Vita. Plus I like the compartmentalization of having different Handhelds with different form factors.

[gleaming vine]

It could get more juice to play better 3ds as well. Saturn however is unbeatable IMO on linux (vs android arm)

[silver idol]

@sour olive It's like having different golf clubs or having multiple tools in a toolbox.

[sour olive]

Fair

[silver idol]

Although I do love my Odin 2 Portal.

[raw ice]

Seriously this with a 3576 and better screens and I’m happy as a clam

Uh, no pun intended

[sour olive]

You'll just use them for DOS games anyway

[untold hazel]

https://giphy.com/gifs/hmd-global-flipphone-retrotech-vintagemobile-1oEF7blk8gdFabK22W

[sour olive]

Those Nokia phones were built like Indestructible Tanks

[raw ice]

Yeah

Bottom screen as trackpad or touch keyboard

[sour olive]

Someone should make an Intellivision Emulator for it and have the bottom screen be the Keypad

[raw ice]

Yes

[lone imp]

make the rk3576 4gb the base, and make the pro a g99 with 6gb of ram.

then piss on gamemt by making it 5 dollars cheaper

[thick orchid]

Is the pro gonna be: android internal, Linux micro SD like all their other devices

[mental needle]

I would presume so

[frosty imp]

Probably, yeah

[regal needle]

is it still scheduled for the coming week?

[silver idol]

Wishful thinking there sir.

[sour olive]

I would actually buy a Pro at those specs

[kindred widget]

G99 is pretty gud in my experience with it

I've been playing stuff on this thing and it's been working pretty well

[raw ice]

at least rocknix usually supports flashing the OS to the EMMC if you want to ditch android entirely

[gleaming vine]

Or dual boot from emmc for some devices

[thick orchid]

I would love to......but there's a beautiful thing called......GAMMA OS

[sour olive]

Why would I flash an inferior OS?

[sour olive]

GammaOS supremacy

[mental needle]

I do prefer android but I can't deny the simplicity of a Linux option

[fossil rose]

Not long now until reviewers can start the tinkering!

[silver idol]

Bruh

@mental needle Me like Portmaster Support.

[mental needle]

Portmaster is good, unfortunately it doesn't have enough games that I want to play on it to make it a key feature I look for

[sour olive]

I don't like Rocknix

Portmaster is neat but Native Android has better support

[silver idol]

But Rocknix has Low Latency for Touchscreen games. 😏

[sour olive]

So does GammaOS

[silver idol]

Not according to ForTheNext's tests on the RG-DS. We found that Rocknix has Lower Latency than Android.

[sour olive]

Check Russ's Video

He tested it and it was pretty much the same

[silver idol]

No I'm talking about Touchscreen Latency. It's been drastically improved on Rocknix.

Input Latency is different.

For example, Rhythm Heaven is now playable with Rocknix on the RG-DS.

You get noticeable input lag with the touchscreen on Android even with GammaOS unfortunately.

[sour olive]

Someone didn't watch the video

[raw ice]

One “I don’t feel lag” doesn’t outweigh actual tests by others

Android has system level v sync that will always add a little bit of lag

[charred marsh]

What kind of difference in input lag are we talking here? Like in actual frames.

[silver idol]

If you either watch ForTheNext's stream of try it yourself while playing rhythm heaven you'll find that reaction times are way better than on Android.

[silver idol]

I did watch the video, you just didn't watch ForTheNext's stream or try Rocknix yourself like I did.

[silver idol]

It's not a "I don't feel" thing it's a being able to react to game actions on the beat thing. The Touchscreen Latency has significantly improved over Android.

If you don't believe me watch the stream yourself or ask @short goblet there's even time stamps.
https://www.youtube.com/live/r0iDP81K_ec?si=yt9p5BlTMvSf8JLW

[charred marsh]

That's great, doesn't answer my question.
I was hoping for a side-by side look. I did find a vid of someone playing Rhythm Heaven on Gamma and there was a difference, but as near as I can tell it was only 1-2 frames, so near as I can tell the difference in responsiveness is only going to be about 1/60th to 1/30th of a second. Most people aren't going to notice that, but it is there. Unless you really like rhythm games it might not be worth losing shaders.

[silver idol]

Is that the Touchscreen or is that the Buttons? These are completely different.

[silver idol]

@charred marsh It may not be side by side but here's ForTheNext's GammaOS stream. There's definitely a difference especially when looking at him play Rhythm Heaven and Elite Beat agents.
https://www.youtube.com/live/jzNcqejvyYg?si=9ZpxeCLcLNyBPeB0

Also it's not only just Rhythm games that benefit from more responsive Touchscreen controls. Games like Pokémon Ranger, Elebits, and even Drawn to Life benefit too.

[charred marsh]

That's the one I found. Downloaded both videos and frame-by-framed them during Rhythmn Heaven. Rocknix had about 2 frames less latency when swiping. You might be sensitive to a 30th of a second difference but that's going to vary between people. Russ, for instance, says he couldn't really tell a difference.

There are fighting game enthusiasts who build entire strategies around that 30th of a second. Some people built different.

[minor warren]

My test was not very scientific, but I was playing my rg ds next to my actual DS lite, on Android, the latency was very noticable and some games were borderline unplayable. After testing rocknix, I sold my DS lite. The difference in latency was impossible for me to tell the difference between Linux and real hardware

A few frames of latency is not very noticeable when it comes to button presses, but in touch heavy games, or games like Metroid prime hunters where it controls your first person camera, it's extremely noticeable when your body's physical movements do not match what's happening on the screen

Anyways that was my TED talk, you can find me in the rgds channel. I guess I live there now

[raw ice]

That’s 17-34ms.

For audio at least the threshold for humans to notice a delay is 10ms, which is why the goal with audio processing (playing guitar through a software amp sim, playing a software synthesizer via midi keyboard etc) is getting your total round trip latency below 10ms. And in this case you aren’t even getting 16-32ms total delay, you’re getting 16-32ms more than the alternative

I’m not saying it’s unplayable but any delay of a full frame or more is definitely going to change how the game plays for the worse even if your average gamer might not be able to put their finger on it

[rare sigil]

I'll say I defo felt input delay on my android devices for games that required quick inputs or rhythm based games...

I was one of the people thinking I wouldn't notice it but I defo did

Outside of those instances it didn't bother me much

[raw ice]

as long as the latency is consistent you can kinda get used to it but yeah obviously still worse than not having the latency

[rare sigil]

Mhm

[keen wing]

Was surprised that streaming wasn't worse. I'll pick up an FPS and be able to do pretty well on the Magmi pocket max.

[sour olive]

Wonder Boy The Dragon's Trap is currently free through the EGS Mobile Store

Definitely recommend getting it

[charred marsh]

Still not sure it's worth giving up shaders, but good to know. Can it dual-boot into Gamma and Rocknix, or do you have to stick with one?

[silver idol]

Already have it! 😁
Do you have Kero Blaster, Pink Hour, and Pink Heaven?

[silver idol]

You can do both just setup GammaOS first.

[sour olive]

I got Kero Blaster on Vita years ago

Never got them on Android though

[silver idol]

But do you have them on Android? 😏

[sour olive]

I have Cave Story

[silver idol]

All three games are on Android.

I REALLY need to make that Android list. 😅

[silver idol]

Honestly I can see the difference from when ForTheNext touched the screen, swiped, and drew on it.

[short goblet]

https://youtu.be/5siD_Kw6qQc?si=MNaY_9MjRlP4sIH9

[regal needle]

so we went from 3rd week of march to just 2026 and still no price

i actually wanted the pro but with airx at 107 and rp5 at 160 it's hard to justify waiting without even knowing the price

[terse parrot]

Good point tbf, if this was still coming out in March then why would Anbernic's latest video only mention "2026"...

[ivory tangle]

Eh close enough, welcome back RG Arc D/RG Arc S.

[untold hazel]

People are still interested in this DOA?

[teal sonnet]

Where can you buy a RP5 for $160?

[naive prairie]

Don't wait around for this. It'll be too expensive at release and irrelevant six months from now.

[quick cloak]

Nah, just the same 6 people

[regal needle]

have it on aliexpress for 180€ but there's a coupon for -20€

[naive prairie]

It's almost like Anbernic is embarassed to release these. 🙃

[quick cloak]

Needs GammaOS to be done I guess

They can't release without gamma approval now

Gamma shadow Anbernic release date decider

No matter how long it takes to release, still gonna be super mid, as the kids say. The longer the wait the worse it is actually

Not sure why these companies think drip feed is the answer to RAMpocalypse

[ivory tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/modern-problems-solutions-dave-chapelle-gif-13450651

[keen heath]

Nice profile pic dude

But there can only be one saitama

[sour olive]

https://tenor.com/view/only-one-there-can-be-only-one-highlander-gif-12213479

[regal needle]

don't worry if they keep the good work next season there'll be only one frame of saitama for the entire season

[keen heath]

Man they massacred that anime...

[dense terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/one-png-man-garou-png-one-punch-man-slide-garou-gif-7704096154233063149

If they do my beloved Kagurabachi dirty like this I will throw hands

[regal needle]

ufotable would do an amazing job with that

[naive prairie]

They will find that the answer is actually "just use the device you have". Because everyone has a device.

[frosty imp]

Well, the Pro version for those of us who still want a Linux handheld more powerful than the current batch

[sour olive]

Just get an Odin 2 Portal and install Rocknix

[kindred widget]

Just get a 557+GammaOS bro

[little crescent]

the pmw of that give me headaches apart of that the plastic feel is a joke

[sour olive]

Doesn't that mean all OLEDs give you PMV in general

[keen wing]

Based on the panel, it varies.

[lone imp]

the same people who will never use the Vita Pro come in to complain about why they will never use the Vita Pro, hoping it will convince Vita Pro buyers to jump in their lonely trench.

SAD

[sour olive]

Says the guy who jumped ship when they saw the EX8

[lone imp]

I bought the tvbox version instead. It's running ubuntu desktop and connected to a 50 inch

[sour olive]

Sir this is a Handhelds Discord Server

[keen wing]

Which tv box did you get? Would like to check out something similar.

[lone imp]

i got found an 8gb H96 on ebay for 100usd

they're stupid expensive brand new

[sour olive]

It would be underpowered and overpriced

[little crescent]

but that is the worse of all i can use retroid 5 for ten minutes i cant use that for two minutes

[sour olive]

That seems more like a you issue to be honest

[little crescent]

is not only a me issue

is one for many people

[restive herald]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5siD_Kw6qQc

[little crescent]

ya posted many times already

[quaint mirage]

https://youtu.be/5siD_Kw6qQc?is=VM0c6o-W1z9XWclL

[dry kelp]

Did you guys see this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5siD_Kw6qQc

[quick cloak]

This is brand new information

[quaint mirage]

This is brand new information

[dry kelp]

This is brand new information

[mental needle]

It's not the information we want

[kindred widget]

This is information?

[mental needle]

Technically

[kindred widget]

Alr so what's the price looking like

120 or more and I'm buying 15 boxes of Digiorno's instead

[mental needle]

I pray they can get the base model below $90

[kindred widget]

Well looks like 15 boxes of Digiorno's it is

[mental needle]

Send me one

[kindred widget]

Personal size is like a buck 50 iirc

At least at my walmart

[mental needle]

send me a pepperoni

[kindred widget]

Nvm it's 3.97

Still not bad for something you can sling into an airfryer

[mental needle]

I'm just at home somewhat snowed in due to a mass snowfall we had last night

[sour olive]

https://youtu.be/5siD_Kw6qQc?is=VM0c6o-W1z9XWclL

This is brand new information

[tribal sonnet]

price where

[teal sonnet]

Close your eyes and it will come to you

Seriously the more they drag out price reveal the more I think they are trying to hide something which is bizarre for a product you want to sell , the longer this goes on the less interested I am TBH

Will be a easy pass when prices are finally revealed

[tawny lynx]

They basically already killed any existing hype at this point by waiting this long

Well that and the t618 and 3gb of ram

[lofty kestrel]

The problem isn't even that. Even if there was a cache of rk3576 gameplay vids, it would just shift the goalposts.

[glacial gust]

If the pro version is only like $30 more expensive
It's a no brainer to get that one instead
More SD card slot,hdmi port,higher resolution
Linux support

[lofty kestrel]

I'm not going to buy something that can't play at least 30fps in gta:vice city for ps2. Does street fighter vs. Tekken even run?

[sour olive]

The price is definitely going to be high

No reason to avoid it otherwise

[floral vessel]

this not your handheld regular or pro you need to go min d1100 or sd865 aka retroid pocket 4 pro or retroid 5,mini,mangmi max,...

[lament birch]

i know it's not necessarily what you mean but GTAVC exists on portmaster and would comfortably run on the Vita Pro

[lofty kestrel]

So it's bad at 6th gen comfort games

[sour olive]

The Pro is going to be $200

[floral vessel]

the real pro in 2008

[sour olive]

JXD

https://tenor.com/view/theres-a-name-ive-not-heard-in-many-years-gif-25204373

[floral vessel]

from the old times dealextreme

where people didn't worry about its form factor or screen resolution or ergonomics

[little crescent]

i always love to have jxd

[sour olive]

Maybe the real price was the friends we made along the way

[silver idol]

Not really, but your opinion is welcome.

[keen wing]

A bit clunky still https://forum.armbian.com/topic/40483-efforts-to-develop-firmware-for-h96-max-m9-rk3576-tv-box-8g128g/page/5/.

[silver idol]

That Animation is so tragic.

[dense terrace]

It's pretty funny but yeah always sad to see a promising anime be completely ruined, like even if they do a season 4 and its amazing it'll always be tainted. Plus I've heard the pacing at least in s2 is really bad :(

[lofty kestrel]

How good are rock chip mali drivers?

[kindred widget]

About as good as the usual mali drivers

[thick orchid]

oh wow i totally havent seen this 4 times before

[thick orchid]

ehhh what did you do to make this possible

[floral vessel]

it simply came out

[short goblet]

reviewers starting to receive the pro

@rough jay 👍

[floral vessel]

you gona get also a unit? i like your streams

[short goblet]

thanks for watching, I can't say much about this yet

[floral vessel]

i lsnmx in yutuv xdd

so that means you already have order tracking?

[fossil rose]

Mine's about half way to me now. They were shipped (as far as I know) to all of us who are reviewing it just a few days back

[floral vessel]

I'll keep an eye on all the reviews that come out, although my decision has already been made regarding the RP4P. So, if your question is why I'm here, it's because I like handheld consoles

[fossil rose]

...hey, at least you're here out of the curiosity instead of just staying in here to shit on the manufacturer or the handheld! Which is so weirdly prevalent in here

[floral vessel]

you get what you pay for, there's no reason to criticize them

[cunning bane]

yeah, about this

it's almost like you can't say anything positive about the brand at times because someone just has to say it doesn't have this, or it's not good at that

[fossil rose]

The funny thing is every developer I know and every 'creator' I know just rolls their eyes at this behavior. We've all seen it. Most of us don't even want to visit this channel in particular because it just feels so toxic and cringe.

But...human nature and all that jazz.

[floral vessel]

no single device will be your all-in-one

[gleaming vine]

What has my curiosity about this is the 3576 linux performance and the price

Not planning on buying this, though

[naive prairie]

The wise move is probably to not buy any of these devices at this time. Because of the whole RAM and storage situation, this year's new devices will either be underspecced or overpriced or, more likely, both. Case in point for underspecced is the RG Vita itself. Jury's still out on whether it's overpriced.

[sour olive]

It's definitely going to be overpriced

[silver idol]

@naive prairie Definitely agree with you on this. However depending on the price I'm definitely buy the RG-VITA Pro.

The lack of RAM and Storage in these Handhelds is pretty underwhelming.

Price to Performance ratios be damned.

Thankfully I already own over 90% of the Handhelds I want.

[fossil rose]

I've chatted to two retro handheld companies in a bit of depth about this RAM drama. It is very much a thing for them right now, it is a worry and it is already changing some plans.

What plans? I've no idea
What companies? I won't say that, not sure its my place to

This sucks though.

[silver idol]

Well for me I can always fall back on Portmaster when the Retro Handhelds scene becomes too underwhelming.

Casual Collecting can always be a thing for me later.

[naive prairie]

It's also harder to make up for the storage shortfalls with micro SD, as those prices have shot up just as fast as everything else.

I can imagine that if you're in the business of making emulation handhelds you're going to be in a rough spot. It's going to be hard to follow the usual model of getting current customers to upgrade when they're not able to make something that's an actual upgrade and the increasing prices are going to keep new buyers out of the market.

[silver idol]

I haven't been this sad since they discontinued the Dingoo A320 and Gemei A330. 😥

Been here for over 10 years and it's sad to watch this scene explode then struggle and stagnate like this year.

[naive prairie]

Might give things some time for the software to catch up to the hardware, if nothing else.

[fossil rose]

Been here for over 10 years...

Ahh, back when SBC actually meant Single Board Computer, and retro gaming was typically on the Raspberry Pi!

[thick orchid]

The Sony vita was NEARLY there

i just wanted more power for Fast Forward gba

and 2x psp

[thick orchid]

meaning...............?

[thick orchid]

its 89.99 + shipping. its gonna be 105 😄

[mental needle]

not bad but others are doing sorta better

[thick orchid]

such as?

also i need a new iem

my KZ died

[mental needle]

ooF

[thick orchid]

died due to cable breaking one of my iem pins

[mental needle]

one of the pins broke in the connector?

[thick orchid]

ye, like it broke off and the pin is now stuck in the iem

[silver idol]

These Handhelds have existed since 2010.

It all started with Game Park Holdings.

[fossil rose]

Sure, I know where and when it started. I was just mentioning the the title 'SBC' which really did belong to Single Board Computers before things got more popular. But that was me going off on a tangent

[silver idol]

Fair enough.

[sour olive]

Game Park 32 says hi

[untold hazel]

[naive prairie]

We were retrogaming on handhelds in the early 90s ... running old DOS games on these:

[silver idol]

I was talking specifically about Emulation Handhelds.

[lone imp]

NOthing better than gba on an og PSP-1000

one of my friends did shrooms and started playing Daxter on his without a memory card. He's like 15 hours into the game, going in and out of sleep mode, on and off the charger, swearing he'll finish it all in one play.

there's a sort of tribalistic charm to rooting someone on to finish a game that way

[floral vessel]

imagine the battery being ejected by a small fall

[lone imp]

"nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooooo"

[lilac bramble]

as much as i loved the PSP1000 back when it was the new hotness, mannn i would never want to play games on it again

that ghosting on the screen is awful

[near locust]

https://youtu.be/YRLcuCOMeeo

[raw tartan]

*2012

[quick cloak]

No price

May not be better than we think

I think it's ass

Maybe $69, then instant win

[minor warren]

I'm pretty sure one of the reviewers was in contact with Anbernic. And they said it was going to cost about $100 shipped

I can't remember what video it was. But I swear they said that

So I'm guessing it's going to be $79

[silver idol]

Base Model: $100 - $115 shipped
Pro Model: $120 - $130 shipped

Best case scenario.

[sour olive]

Pro is going to be $200

[silver idol]

Nobody will buy it then!

[sour olive]

You will

Anberslop for the win

[silver idol]

$150 if they're crazy probably.

[near locust]

If the base model stays with that price, is reasonable

Maybe 90

[regal needle]

https://retrohandhelds.gg/anbernic-rg-vita-and-rg-vita-pro-price-and-release-date-revealed/

[sour olive]

Wow

$109 for the Pro

That's actually surprising

@silver idol

It's the Early Bird Price but still

That makes is even weirder that they avoided the price this long

It's $150 after Early Bird

Which isn't worth it at that price

[devout plinth]

$10 different? they expect to sell the base like that?

[regal needle]

will pre-orders also be on aliexpress or just from anbernic? because the coupons should be up until the 25th

[devout plinth]

just assume the Early Bird Price is the real price

[sour olive]

That's a good point

Who's buying base when it's literally only a $10 difference

[devout plinth]

because it'll go back to that price, even lower after a month

[sour olive]

With a lower resolution screen, less RAM and worst chipset

[regal needle]

only wanted the pro so it's fine by me

[devout plinth]

the RG DS is now lower than the early bird price

[sour olive]

Interesting that it says the Pro has support for Dual Screens

[devout plinth]

all the rk35xx chips can do that

[quick cloak]

Another buy it now or buy it never situation

$10 difference is completely whack

27% jump to retail is insane

[umbral pagoda]

I assume this is a mistake

I imagine it means to say Base: $99 EB to $109
Pro: $129 EB to $139

[devout plinth]

kinda think so too, rk3576 can't be that cheap

[regal needle]

at the same time 140 + shipping would be way too much for that

[tawny lynx]

Wonder if you can stack the aliexpress sale with it

[sour olive]

That's what I'm hoping for

[regal needle]

what i want to know

[sour olive]

Get it for $100

[naive prairie]

Good luck selling those for $139 and $149.

Especally the base RG Vita. Seriously - who's going to buy that?

[minor oxide]

With AliExpress sales it’s probably be way below that most of the time

Wait $109 I might actually get this…

[gleaming vine]

Let's wait and see how the pro reviews under linux, now

[quick cloak]

I'd pay about tree fiddy for DMG fake Vita

[tawny lynx]

Yeah $150 retail for the pro is awful lol

[naive prairie]

Right - I think that makes more sense.

Still - not buying the RG Vita for $99 plus Anbernic's shipping or $109. Not really worth it.

[regal needle]

same, if it's at that price on aliexpress i'll get one but the price difference seems weird

[naive prairie]

I think Nate's right and it's actually $140.

[regal needle]

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-out-gif-13514719014470141678

140 + shipping would be more than 160€ which is the price i can get an rp5 😂

[sour olive]

That's true

How much is this with shipping?

If shipping is $20, then this actually a terrible price

[sour olive]

"A few of us here at Retro Handhelds are still waiting for our RG Vita Pro review units to arrive, but Jim just received his and said, “My first impressions are basically the same, but it has a nicer screen and a terrible Linux build.” That alone makes the availability of custom firmware even more important once the RG Vita Pro is officially released."

[vivid jasper]

Honest question
Who was interested in this anyway?
There are much better options in the market
I don’t see the point of this, is it just novelty?

[sour olive]

@silver idol for some reason

[tawny lynx]

Kind of yeah

Just cool to have a more powerful linux handheld tbh

[hallow willow]

maybe 2 people were interested in this 😄 so if you want it, it's basically early bird or fuck right off 😄 i imagine later sales and ali stuff will make it more bearable tho

[tawny lynx]

Although I'm more more interested in the rk3576 being used in more handhelds than I am this specifically

[silver idol]

$100 or below

[sour olive]

Who's buying the base at $140?

[hallow willow]

nobody remotely normal 😄

[tawny lynx]

No idea, you can get a base rp4 for that

[sour olive]

This device is pretty much only worth it if you get Early Bird

After that, it's overpriced Anberslop

[gleaming vine]

Besides the form factor, the chip is interesting as it could have enough juice to punch above its weight under linux

This could be a very much affordable PS2/GC/Port master device

[sour olive]

It's only affordable during Early Bird though

If you don't get it within the first 72 Hours, the price raises by $40

[lone imp]

let us not forget that rockchip mali < unisoc mali < mediatek mali in terms of vulkan/directx support

[quick cloak]

Port Master is true

[silver idol]

It should, you'll have to plug it up to a TV tho.

[sour olive]

Does it not work with Retroid Dual Screen Add-on?

[silver idol]

Honestly, I would think this too.

[tawny lynx]

Doa if true

[lone imp]

credit, most of what the rk3576 is capable of in linux doesn't really need vulkan. it will do fine with just opengl, which is fine for portmaster

[silver idol]

The RAMpocalyse claims us all.

[umbral pagoda]

I'm confused about some negativity, the power on the 3576 is pretty good

[sour olive]

The Price

[umbral pagoda]

$150ish what's the comparison? I don't think you're getting a RP5 close to that

[tawny lynx]

T820 handhelds regularly go below that on ali

[lone imp]

just buy early bird if you don't like the price.

if you get ADD and can't stand it a week after getting it, go to #💬│marketplace-chat

[silver idol]

Or an RG476H or GameMT EX8 if yah nasty.

[umbral pagoda]

Hmm, for some reason I thought the 3576 had more power than the T820

Continue the slander then

[lone imp]

no, it's slightly stronger than the t618 but has worse mali drivers

[silver idol]

I want the Pro Unit for Portmaster and Android ports.

[silver idol]

Probably

[silver idol]

Yeah the RK3576 is basically the T618 with more Multi-core performance and a Linux kernel.

[silver idol]

Yep

[umbral pagoda]

I got confused, too many chips to think about

[lone imp]

the main significance is the odroid go ultra and rgb10max3pro are nolonger relevent after the rgVita Pro drops.

[umbral pagoda]

Then yeah, overpriced

[silver idol]

Definitely a good Handheld for me to work on Linux and Android ports.

[lone imp]

like, just take all the amlogic handhelds and set them on fire at this point

[naive prairie]

Even the Pro is going to be kinda shitty at Android gaming. The only reason you might want one is if you’re obsessed with arm Linux.

[hallow willow]

those two devices weren't exactly relevant even before the vita pro drops, lets not kid ourselves tho i did like the max3pro xD

[silver idol]

For Handhelds with T618-like performance it will probably be decent.

[lone imp]

the good thing is jelos/rocknix comes with an armlinux version of pcsx2(renamed aethersx2, but changing nothing) that will work pretty well.

[naive prairie]

That’s an older version than aethersx2 on Android, isn’t it?

[lone imp]

that needs to be yanked and transported to whatever linux firmware is on rgvita pro

[lone imp]

yeah, but it's a direct port of pcsx2 for the rk3588, so it works cleanly with other rockchips

[cunning bane]

as always, they priced it juuuuuust right

[silver idol]

To be fair NetherSX2 is basically an overglorified patch.

[cunning bane]

and the vita pro will be a good value, at early bird price

[silver idol]

I'll be waiting for the sells to go up.

[quick cloak]

I mean, let's be honest, whatever the price you got to add the cost to replace the screen once

[cunning bane]

if your hand-eye coordination sucks ig

tho, it's still neat how they include screen protectors with all of their stuff

[quick cloak]

Cheapest all glass front baby

[lone imp]

A max3pro with an rk3576 inside would be nice. the ergos are already good

[silver idol]

@lone imp And better kernel support.

[lone imp]

they could call it the max3redux or something.

@drifting halo

[gleaming vine]

Honestly I expect the marketplace to be flooded with this device (as usual for Anbernic) a week or two after launch with early bird prices

[naive prairie]

I believe we call that “damning with faint praise”. 🙃

[gleaming vine]

No one sane will get this at 140 + shipping

[sour olive]

Just get a 476H

It usually goes on sale for that price

[gleaming vine]

I hope the chip gets good performance, it could be an attractive replacement for upcoming, low cost devices

[sour olive]

Of course if you want PSP, there are better alternatives as well

[gleaming vine]

I'm just an enthusiast seeing how this chip does

I was burned hard with the Gameforce ace, but I loved what the rocknix team did with the rk3588

[lone imp]

the armlinux branch of lime3ds and citrammj support lan multiplayer, so that's a thing

[silver idol]

Not without coupons at least. Times are tough as hell.

[sour olive]

At least anyone that was interested in this device can get it cheap

The issue being the shipping price from Anbernic

If shipping is $20, it defeats the purpose of Early Bird

[silver idol]

I mean but then you don't get the benefits of having an Emulation Handheld.

[sour olive]

There are better Emulation Handhelds for the price

[silver idol]

$140 yes

[sour olive]

Early Bird is actually a good price

[silver idol]

But the specs in the RG-VITA Pro suit my interests.

[sour olive]

Pro is $150

And you said you wanted Linux

[silver idol]

I edited the comment.

This is definitely not a Handheld for everyone but it's definitely for me.

[sour olive]

Just make sure to get Early Bird

I just want to know if AliExpress is also going to have it

Then you could stack with the current sale coupons

[gleaming vine]

Exactly, if the chip performance is good, we might get it on different form factors for (let's hope) cheap

[sour olive]

I want an SP device

[whole ice]

I mean even the retail price will only be slightly higher than the early bird. It almost always is

There's always coupons or some crap

MSRP is just what they can list it at to always show it "on sale". And to scare people into pre-order

[sour olive]

$40 is a huge discount though

[lone imp]

portmaster better have unreal tournament 2004, homm5, and possibly some other 2008 games for this device

[gleaming vine]

40 is a huge difference considering that's RP4PRO territory

And 476h

[heavy blaze]

Having only a $10 difference is nuts.Whats the point Appears cheap for pro until you add tax and postage.

[naive prairie]

Watch for Anbernic’s super secret shipping fee increase for the Pro like they had for their latest controller.

[heavy blaze]

Will be at least $25

[regal needle]

having a small difference is actually a common tactic to make people buy the most expensive option thinking it's a good deal

[gleaming vine]

At least they sent units in advance to developers

This could have been very much DoA if not

[naive prairie]

Who says it’s not still DOA. 🤣

[sour olive]

GameMT EXT8 is a better device for the price

[prisma niche]

$150 msrp........

[regal needle]

it depends, for 150 i think it's obvious what will happen but for 110 is not bad (assuming they don't put like 30 for shipping)

[sour olive]

Shipping is probably going to be $20

[heavy blaze]

For $120 in my pocket no problem for $155 its a different thought process.

[sour olive]

$120 is too much

[gleaming vine]

If this thing comes out with working gen 6 under Linux and it costs 120 shipping included, I can see it moving some units

[heavy blaze]

It won't because they charge tax even though its 4px shipping. Maybe be a better deal on ali express

[naive prairie]

T618-level performance for PS2 isn’t what I consider “working”, but some people can be satisfied with that, perhaps.

[gleaming vine]

If not : more Anbernic e-waste

[heavy blaze]

No one will buy the cheaper version.

[gleaming vine]

That's 100 percent e-waste

[heavy blaze]

Yes it makes no sense the pro is better in every aspect for $10 more

[minor warren]

Wtf, a 40 dollar early bird discount???

Those early prices should be the permanent prices. It's not worth buying at that point

[mighty pumice]

Base still had the better dual thread cpu performance.

[minor warren]

The pro is probably pretty capable for GameCube and some PS2, if it performs any better than the t618. Plus being able to run through Linux means a lot less overhead. I think it's worth the early bird price. But there's no way this thing should be priced any highershould be priced any higher than that

[young mantle]

$150 is tough… I think you can get a RP5 at this price on AliExpress during sales

[sour olive]

I got a Retroid Flip 2 for $211

[regal needle]

a friend of mine got one this week for 160€

[young mantle]

I guess it will be more like $120 after a couple of months

[sour olive]

I saw the RP5 for $196

That was without the coupons though

[regal needle]

oh i'm talking after coupons, it was 180€ before

[sour olive]

Prices are higher in the US for Retroid Products

Still a good deal as you save on shipping over getting it from Retroid and you'll get it in the same week as they have local shipping

[regal needle]

but here most of the times you have to multiple the price for 1.23 (rg ds is 117€ right now without coupons instead of the 94$ from anbernic for example) to get the actual price so if it launches at 150$ it'll be around 185€ which is even more than the rp5 😂

[gleaming vine]

It will be around 100 + shipping on the marketplace a week after release 😆

The pro

[gentle pulsar]

Still, $10 more to upgrade from non pro to pro is wild

[minor warren]

I'm guessing the early bird price is what it was supposed to launch at. And then the whole ram thing started happening, so now they're trying to raise the price

At least giving all of the early buyers the price that it was planned to release at

[sour olive]

If they have it up on AliExpress, you should be able to get them for cheaper

[mental needle]

Did we get the price?

[kindred widget]

150 Anbernickels

[mental needle]

Are you just joking or being somewhat for real?

[sour olive]

Yes and no

The Pro is $150 but the Early Bird Price is $110

[mental needle]

That's a crazy early bird discount

Any news on the base model price?

[sour olive]

$100 for Early Bird, $140 after

Just spend the extra $10 and get the Pro at that point

[mental needle]

Dafuq?

Just from that the base model is DOA

Well also the fact that the magni air x exists

[blazing bough]

109 is a great price

[mental needle]

I presume the pro model is going to perform around the T820

[lone imp]

if you're assuming that, you haven't looked at the specs or used an rk3576 in tvbox/tablet form

it's -maybe- 10% better than t618 to due how the cores are laid out

[sour olive]

But that's also accounting for always having a power source

You won't get that same power running though a battery

[lone imp]

https://www.rock-chips.com/uploads/pdf/2024.3.18/192/RK3576 Brief Datasheet V1.2-20240311.pdf
here is the official spec sheet. If reading is hard, here is the block diagram

4xA72+4xA53 vs. 2xA75+6xA55
mali-g52 mc3 vs. mali-g52 mc2
rockchip vs. unisoc for drivers.

it's a sidegrade with linux support at most.

[untold hazel]

Who pre-ordered????

[mental needle]

yeah I'm just assuming this off of the price point and the fact that it's placed above the T618

[sour olive]

I don't see the point in Base

Just pay the $10 and get a more powerful handheld that also has Dual Booting Support

[gleaming vine]

Funny enough I had better performance on mobile rk3588 (GF Ace) than on an orange pi 5

I do not think that a custom OS can save a bad chipset but again, I'd rather be optimistic

[lone imp]

actuallly.... the mali-g52 mp3 in this has higher vulkan support(1.2) than the g52-mp2 in the t618(1.0) and the g57-mp4 in the t820(1.1)

[sour olive]

Shame it doesn't have an OLED screen

Would make a nice budget OLED device

Would be better than the RG505

[lone imp]

before 1.2, vulkan had a hard limit of partial directx 9ish shaders. at 1.2, AMD contributed to the codebase and brought it up to directx11ish support. Basically, it means it should be able to play some of the more stubborn vita games (like toukiden or DOA 5.)

[sour olive]

Time to play DOAX3

[lone imp]

but also, winlator ludashi and gamehub-lite should play nice with some light modern stuff

[sour olive]

https://tenor.com/view/so-good-wink-smile-oh-yeah-its-true-gif-24163876

[sour olive]

Just get a EX8 at that point

[lone imp]

heh. the problem is this is ROCKCHIP. they may not have even implemented higher vulkan support yet. mediatek soft-forced 1.2 support on their stuff even though it was locked to 1.1 on release

[sour olive]

Sure but EX8 would have better support for GameHub out of the box

Plus PSP doesn't look too bad on a 3:2 screen

[lone imp]

the ex8 at 120-139 is a better deal, yeah, but it gets a lot of resistence for an endless number of reasons

[sour olive]

It's currently around $130 with the current sales

[lone imp]

the ex8 is in the race representing powkiddy superteamup, but i don't think many people really care is what i mean.

[sour olive]

If the shipping for the RG Vita Pro ends up being like $20, the EX8 would be the better device value wise

[quick cloak]

Shame ex8 has no headphone jack

[sour olive]

That's unfortunate but Bluetooth Headphones aren't that expensive

[quick cloak]

At the cost of latency?

I don't know. I just use wired headphones on pretty much all my handheld

Some people make it seem like a big deal. I've never really used them much for gaming.

[sour olive]

You can get pretty good Latency lately by using a different codec

Granted the device has to support it

Like LDAC or APTX

[lone imp]

these cost like... 2 dollars.

it's a non-issue for me

[sour olive]

That's true

Some Wireless Headphones also have a Low Lag Mode meant for gaming

[mental needle]

at first glance I thought that was a vape

[sour olive]

The Return of Gaming Vape

[mental needle]

wait does the RGVita not have a headphone port?

[lone imp]

the ex8 doesn't have one. i believe the rgVita does

it's bottom center

[mental needle]

ok

I haven't really been looking at this handheld with how long it's taken Anbernic to reveal the prices

[raw ice]

110 for 3576 and 1080p isn’t terrible

Might yolo one purely as a portmaster device

[mental needle]

Could be a banger portmaster handheld

[sour olive]

I think you guys overestimate what Portmaster can do

[short goblet]

well Dead Cells is there now

[lofty kestrel]

How about an install of Ubuntu touch??

Then we can run background music out of rhythmbox while messing about with wine or box64

[untold hazel]

Can't wait for Russ's review of this one

[sour olive]

Dead Cells is on everything

[dry kelp]

Yeah but I can play Victory Heat Rally on Portmaster

[thick orchid]

release 23rd

when do pre orders open

[thick orchid]

its amazing on the switch 2

i mean what?

when will pro reviews come

i dont wanna buy without a review

[sour olive]

BRUH

[thick orchid]

https://giphy.com/gifs/what-steve-austin-stone-cold-TaBRY9MzqfoDHfDrcx

[lone imp]

coward. facedive that shit

[raven sky]

Hey all, looks like anbernic sent us the wrong prices by mistake. We're confirming to be sure, but I believe they are lower than they should be.

After speaking with a reviewer in touch with a different rep

[tawny lynx]

Cooked

Prices made too much sense😔

Need to add extra $20 just because

[quick cloak]

[raw ice]

even the 'too low' prices were bad outside of the pro early bird...

[raven sky]

23-March 18：00 beijing time is the embargo and listing time for Vita and Vita pro
price is 99.99 / 139.99 early bird for the first 72hours
109.99/149.99 afterwards

They were just swapped

So Vita 99.99 EB and 109.99 after

Pro is 139.99 EB and 149.99 after

[sour olive]

Thanks for Clarifying

[raven sky]

For sure. I wish the pro was $109.99 early bird 😂

[sour olive]

RIP Pro

[raven sky]

It's actually pretty decent for me so far, just got it in. Livestream tomorrow night.

So that's a bummer.

[sour olive]

Not at that price though

[raven sky]

Yeah

[sour olive]

$110 was better

Guess that means RG Vita hate is back on the menu

[chrome patio]

Anbernic is the king of making handhelds that I want but that I can't justify purchasing

[sacred narwhal]

The Pro pricing is horrible. Mangmi Air X is way better value. It isn't even competitive with their other products like RG476H.

[devout plinth]

the rk3576 is quite new in the handheld scene, maybe wait for reviews before making your judgement?

[sour olive]

No

Stop trying to make RG Vita a thing

[devout plinth]

I care about the chip not the device

I have never seen a real vita my whole life, have no nostalgia for it

[sour olive]

Then stop trying to speak for those who have

[sacred narwhal]

What are you hoping to come out of the chip? We already have idea of its performance and what it can run.

[blazing bough]

Eh still in the range that I would buy it

[silver idol]

Dead Cells is on Portmaster too now.

Honestly I don't need a review because I can mostly go based off specs with these Handhelds to figure out if I want a Handheld or not.

[ivory tangle]

And UFO 50.

[silver idol]

How is he speaking for those who have he's just giving his personal take.

[sour olive]

He said I should wait for reviews to before I cast judgement

[devout plinth]

huh? I'd like to see your reference, I have no idea how it would do with linux

[silver idol]

I was hoping the RG-VITA would be either be $120 or $130 but whatever Anbernic be Anbernic.

Sad times we live in.

[sour olive]

There's no review that's going to change people opinion on how weak, underpowered and expensive this is to make it worth it

[silver idol]

Maybe

with sells

[sour olive]

While you're entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to mine

And will shit on this device as much as I want

For being expensive underpowered crap

[silver idol]

I'm not going to try to change your opinion.

I'm just going to speak for myself.

[sour olive]

Reviews are not suddenly going to make this device any better

[silver idol]

I understand this.

[sour olive]

The one comment by a Reviewer that has been made for the Pro says the included version of Linux sucks ass

[silver idol]

But we're getting Rocknix for the RG-Vita.

[sour olive]

That's not a seller

Rocknix is on many devices

[silver idol]

So we won't be stuck with the Anbernic Linux for long.

[sour olive]

Why is this any more special than others?

[silver idol]

RK3576 😏

[sour olive]

It's $140 ewaste

RK3676 is crap

[silver idol]

It's good enough for hobbyist like me.

[sour olive]

You can try to justify it

[blazing bough]

What other rocknix device exists at this price point

[silver idol]

I've been messing with SBC's for years.

[lone imp]

many people have tried what you're doing and they eventually got frustrated and left the discord. just let people who want it buy it

[sour olive]

But this price for performance is garbage

[lone imp]

poor charts guy. he charted himself to death

[sour olive]

You're all entitled to purchase it but don't come here and say that I should wait until reviews get released to form an opinion

[silver idol]

Agreed, I've been dealing with this stuff for 5 years now.

[sour olive]

There's enough info out there to make a consise choice

[silver idol]

It's okay dude, just do you don't focus on everyone else here.

[devout plinth]

this guy is the type Zu talked about in the last video 😅

[lone imp]

rk3576 is just strong enough for 3ds and has just enough driver support for games unplayable on vulkan 1.1(poor t820), so it's a decent handheld for portable 7th gen at least

[silver idol]

We all get into the Retro/Obscure Handheld scene with different interests and reasons.

[sour olive]

Tribalism BS to try to justify poor purchasing decisions

[devout plinth]

have I ever said I'm gonna buy this?

[sour olive]

A couple times

[devout plinth]

I'm interested in how the chip would do in linux

[lone imp]

now he's throwing insults. okay mods do your work

[devout plinth]

do you search, prove me wrong!

[sour olive]

I didn't even insult them

[silver idol]

RK3576 will be perfect for me to get into porting games to Android and the form factor will be fun for Portmaster.

Also PS2 and GameCube testing.

[sour olive]

Why is this handheld any different from all the other than can do Portmaster?

There are better chipsets for the same price

[silver idol]

RK3576

[sour olive]

RK3576 is not a selling point

[silver idol]

Not everybody here comes here just to play games.

[devout plinth]

rk35xx is THE selling point

[sour olive]

Why limit yourself to such antiquated chipsets though?

[lone imp]

because it's -fun-

[devout plinth]

it's very modern

[sour olive]

For the exact same price, you can get way better performance from other devices

[blazing bough]

I'm struggling to find which devices you are talking about lol

For Rocknix specifically

[sour olive]

$150 can get you T820 and G99 devices

[silver idol]

This type of thinking doesn't fuel people like The Rocknix team, Tinkerers, or even GammaSqueeze.

[sour olive]

Rocknix can also be put on some of those devices

[silver idol]

We come here for multiple different reasons.

[devout plinth]

nope!

[blazing bough]

No they can't

[devout plinth]

do it, I dare you

[blazing bough]

not that I know of

the cheapest tier I can see after this is the RP5

[silver idol]

It's a Tinkerers, Developers, Techies dreams man. @lone imp gets it.

[devout plinth]

actually rk3588 is quite great, but expensive

[sour olive]

Psiman buys devices to play Monster Hunter

[silver idol]

It's also not Handheld friendly unfortunately. 😅

[devout plinth]

it could be, I've seen boards without active cooling

[lone imp]

you haven't been around long enough to see me post anything else so of course you think i only play monster hunter lol.

[sour olive]

That's mostly what you post

[sour olive]

Tinkerers are in the minority

Most people aren't going to buy this

[lone imp]

out of the 336 videos on my youtube, 7 are MH-related

[silver idol]

And...?

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-gif-5905854439703930680

[sour olive]

It doesn't change this device is garbage

[silver idol]

Love your tests BTW, I might get into that more myself.

[sour olive]

Y'all can get mad all you want

But this device is going to fail

[silver idol]

We're not mad tho...

[devout plinth]

Tinkerers are the people who make tools, community software

[blazing bough]

I dunno man. It only looks like you're the one mad here

[sour olive]

Says the 3 of you ganging up on me because I dared to say anything negative on the Almighty RG Vita

[silver idol]

Developers are Tinkerers and Techies too in their own ways.

[sour olive]

"But wait for reviews"

[blazing bough]

It's like the "quit having fun" meme

[silver idol]

I'm not ganging up on you.

[sour olive]

If the only people buying a handheld made for consumers are tinkerers, then they failed

[silver idol]

I definitely wouldn't recommend the RG-VITA or Pro to a stranger for friend but that's not going to stop me from enjoying it.

[sour olive]

That would be like saying the Retroid Pocket 6 is great because only Tinkerers care about it

[blazing bough]

Like dude, I know you don't like this but shouting "this is bad. this is garbage" at every opportunity seems like a waste of time

[sour olive]

Which obviously isn't true

[sour olive]

I'm allowed to voice negative opinions regardless

[silver idol]

I found enjoyment in the RG503, RG552, and Win600 so why not the RG-VITA Pro?

[devout plinth]

odroid is marketed exclusively to Tinkerers

they do fine

[sour olive]

Interesting how you 3 are the only ones here to fight back

[blazing bough]

there's a massive difference of voicing negative opinions which everyone is entitled to and voicing it ALL the time

[lone imp]

the win600 is life. it has the spirit of laptop emulation

[sour olive]

Odroid Handhelds aren't made for consumers

[silver idol]

True however don't expect to change anyone else's opinions or taste here either.

[blazing bough]

not to mention bashing someone else's interest in this

[sour olive]

Which is Anbernic market

[blazing bough]

like there's tons of devices I don't like the 405V, 406V

[sour olive]

You're putting words into people mouths

[blazing bough]

but I'm not going into the other threads saying I hate it at every other oppurtunity

[lone imp]

"I'm not looking to get stung!"
(goes and kicks a hornets nest)
"Stop ganging up on me!"

[silver idol]

Oh my God yes this happens to me all the time here! Just the other day someone was trying to make fun of me for wanting to play PC games through GameHub and Game Native on Android Handhelds.

Then they claimed it takes 5 hours to setup GameHub and Game Native!!! 🤣

[sour olive]

The thing is that anytime someone says something

You always butt in with your opinion

[devout plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/kto-kounotoritoken-kounotori-lbow-storkholders-gif-25676349

[sour olive]

Which isn't an issue until you decide to make it seem like only yours matters

[silver idol]

Like I always say "Don't poke the Bee's nest and you won't get stung!"

[sour olive]

Also Shadowpaws doesn't even care about the Vita

[silver idol]

When have I ever done this!?

[sour olive]

You and Psiman also come in anytime something negative is said about any device

Every single time without miss

[silver idol]

I'm not trying to change your opinion or tastes tho.

[sour olive]

Stop trying to change the subject

[silver idol]

Like I said before, just do you don't focus on everyone else here.

[sour olive]

You're all entitled to like the device but I am just as entitled to have negative opinions on them as well without you two butting in all the time

[silver idol]

The RG-VITA is definitely not competitive with other Handhelds on the Market unfortunately.

[silver idol]

Dude we're just saying our piece just like you.

[sour olive]

Are you though?

[lone imp]

what are you even talking about. most days i'm not even here because i have a job. You have the scope and long term memory of a sea urchin.

[silver idol]

This is a hobby for me.

[blazing bough]

I only just came back to check on the thread after a few weeks just because of the price reveal lol

[sour olive]

Since you decided that insulting me is the best course of action, I'm not even going to justify any response to that

[lone imp]

uh huh... well that does make the conversation more pleasant then.

[sour olive]

The arrogance is real

[silver idol]

It's not arrogance it's maturity.

Don't let the haters shake you.

[sour olive]

It's not maturity when you get mad at anyone saying anything negative

Psiman is probably going to say some other insult to deflect from actual criticism

[silver idol]

Well I'm about to check out I need some sleep and got to go to work REALLY early in the morning. Later y'all! 👋

[lone imp]

how many people do we get a week/month that go into a handheld thread and start attacking the room? Literally happens every day in the r36s chats to a point where it's boring to go into them.

[silver idol]

We get it with the RG-DS too. Good night 😴

[lone imp]

oh god. yeah fuck rgDS chat. it was an irradiated mess even after it sold well.

[sour olive]

Those devices aren't good

Let people voice their opinions

It seems all you guys want is an Echo Chamber

Companies aren't going to improve if we pretend bad devices are great

They keep on selling the same stuff over and over again without any improvement

[blazing bough]

What does complaining in here accomplish tho?

[lone imp]

if a person opens with "I used handheld X and it's bad because of reasons Y, Z, and A" then that's actual useful information.

WHen an armchair lurker makes a bunch of non-evidence based assertions without knowing that they're true, that's useless information.

you're doing the second thing, and fighting people when they want you to -stop-.

[glacial gust]

rg vita pro has a good pricing

[blazing bough]

139 is on the edge for me

like any anbernic device tho I expect discounts within a few months

[glacial gust]

Yeah

[lone imp]

it's a weird high price, almost like they're charging a premium -just- for the feature of dual-booting

[glacial gust]

Imma just wait for couple of months
Even the rg vita has a fair pricing for a t618

[blazing bough]

i'm curious on how it compares to the sd662

the regular t618 i mean

t618 should be more powerful right?

even if by a little bit

mainly thinking about regular vita vs mangmi

[short goblet]

there’s other differences, more ram, higher resolution screen

[undone hemlock]

And they call me negative

[thick orchid]

Damn it..no longer worth it for me

[fossil rose]

Perfect opportunity to not-so-subtly share my article from when I interviewed bmdhacks about how he managed to bring Dead Cells to PortMaster (and playable on the R36S)..!

https://gardinerbryant.com/the-anatomy-of-an-impossible-port/

[raven sky]

Great article!

[regal needle]

guess i'll skip this one, for that price i can get an rp5
110 was ok for me but 140 is a bit too much good luck for those who still want it

[blazing bough]

yea i get it

[raven sky]

Hey man, I don't think either device will do very well (Pro is worth it more than Standard to me) but people can enjoy if they want, I don't think you guys want to go in a circle about this forever.

Debates can be fun and productive if both sides want to participate. Everyone should also take a look at #🧾│rules before getting too deep in the mud with each other

Be kind to each other while debating why it sucks or doesn't suck, or Zu might wake up tomorrow and throw me out of the discord for mod failures 😭 .

[lone imp]

rg505 is 101usd right now too if that's your jam.
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256810170039090.html?

[blazing bough]

the 505 is great tho i'd be lying if I said I'd use mine again

tried to ignore it but

[lone imp]

i sold mine only because l2/r2 hurt my fingers. the powkiddy x28 is much more comfortable

[blazing bough]

the chin and the glass border annoyed me lol

like i get that a real vita has those too but it's covered up there so it doesn't feel the same

[silver idol]

I have an entire list of Ports I'd like to bring to Portmaster. Most of them will be obscure but great games. Sadly 90% of you will probably not care about them. Thankfully I already brought three games to Portmaster but I still have many more to bring over. The last game I was working on was Daydreamer: Awakened edition and Treasure Hunter Man. Hopefully these next few weeks work out for me and I'm able to return to porting games on Portmaster.

[raven sky]

90%?

Love that you're porting! Send the 90% list! I am sure I will like at least ONE of them

I AM THE 10%

-# maybe

[lone imp]

is Starbound still in portmaster?

[silver idol]

I'd check the offical Website.

https://portmaster.games/games.html

[regal needle]

that actually makes the vita price even weirder, if the main issue right now is memory being too expensive how is it possible that the 505 with more ram and internal is the same price

sad time to have stupid eyes that dont like pwm 😭

[blazing bough]

It's mostly old device vs newer

[glacial gust]

Rg505 is a 3 year old device

[terse parrot]

I was cautiously interested in a Pro at $109... But $139 ... The reviews will have to be really good for that to make sense

It's moved out of impulse buy territory (for me, imo, etc)

[blazing bough]

Yea I don't think it will be mindblowing

My interest is still solely on vita lookalike to play psp

[terse parrot]

Yeah that's fair, it's nice when one of these handhelds resembles an old one

[regal needle]

i understand that it's "old" but doesn't change the fact that performs better from the same company at the same price while having stuff that should make it more expensive like the extra memory and oled

it's hard to justify the vita just because it's new

[blazing bough]

I mean I bought nearly every xx device lol

[regal needle]

still, was only interested in the pro for linux so I'll only cry about it not being 110 😅

[blazing bough]

Most of the time they were getting more expensive

On release

[glacial gust]

They have bunch of it in stocks

[untold hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-coffin-meme-rip-gif-16909625

[young mantle]

It’s the usual hate cycle of Anbernic products. It’s terrible at launch, but after community CFW and sales, people would think it’s

[keen shell]

Sure, let the community do all the heavy lifting while Anbernic feeds us unpolished, unfinished, expensive garbage.

[hexed cave]

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-english-agent-yawn-tired-rowan-atkinson-gif-17502421

Nice prices! But im going back to bed 😴

[heavy blaze]

Lol and I was baulking at $109.No chance at $139 plus post and tax

[silver idol]

@raven sky Yeah it's just I've been working on some very obscure games. 😅

[gleaming vine]

https://tenor.com/view/doa-strp-gif-8092405971519382891

[prisma niche]

https://youtu.be/PWovIv9e8vA?t=526

Oh looks like this tv box has it overclocked

2.3GHz on the big cores and 2.2GHz on the little cores

Stock is 2.2GHz and 1.8GHz

[minor warren]

I have to imagine the pro still outperforms the t618 for GameCube and PS2, simply because of the Linux support. The Linux devs are going to optimize this thing so hard

Vita pro is going to be one of the highest performing stock Linux devices. I think that's the biggest appeal of the device.

[devout plinth]

much depends on what anbernic did to the thing

the H96 tv box above has rk3576 too but it's so hard to get linux running well on that

https://forum.armbian.com/topic/40483-efforts-to-develop-firmware-for-h96-max-m9-rk3576-tv-box-8g128g/

it's 2x cheaper than the dev board version though

[inner parrot]

Not sure it matters to anyone, but perhaps a curious point - we still don't have accelerometer/gyro support in Linux for the Qualcomm chipsets - they have to be accessed through a proprietary Qualcomm sensor processor and I don't know anyone to be working on that, but I have heard that the RG DS and RG Vita Pro use the same accelerometer as each other and it is being actively worked on for mainline Linux. 🙂

ie chances are we get working accelerometer in Linux for RG DS and Vita Pro before (if ever?) we get it for Qualcomm devices

[devout plinth]

the way rocknix devs have direct contact with anbernic, yes highly likely

[inner parrot]

Don't think Anbernic does much besides send dev/review units to some folks

I do know Retroid provided some reference code that helped port the Retroid Pocket Flip 2 lid sensor to Linux - help like that is actually pretty rare

[silver idol]

These companies in China sure are something.

[raven sky]

Lands of Lore 3? 👀

[lofty kestrel]

there are better handhelds, but this one looks like a vita

i have a vita, but the dpad daughterboard is dead.

and i hope the repair cost isn't high 😕
edit: huh... 30-35usd for a professional. 5-15 if you replace it yourself.

[tacit sage]

Really wish Anbernic would focus group a handheld for once. I think they hit it out of the park with the 406H. These weird gimmicky handhelds they’ve been coming out with the past 6 months though have just been disappointing. Give us a reason to buy from you again, please!

[undone hemlock]

The 476H is a home run

[lofty kestrel]

the t820 itself is a home run. it was designed as a gaming soc for blackview/nubia

[devout plinth]

focus group, like what magicx is doing? 😆