ANBERNIC RG Vita, RG Vita Pro

[lone imp]

https://www.armsom.org/sige5
those interested: there are available distros for ubuntu, armbian, android, and debian

[sour olive]

So what you're saying is Bazzite when?

This a joke

[lone imp]

i wonder if the stock rk3576 cooler is what anbernic is using

[sour olive]

Since Bazzite is pretty much dead

[lone imp]

well... if this was an 8gb unit, heh yeah you could make a shitty steam deck out of it

[sour olive]

It would nice for Indie Games and older PC Games

[keen heath]

Oled looks so good as does the device but that 3.92" display will be 3.4" or something for gba 🙁 such a shame

[sour olive]

I used to own one but I sold it

I wanted the Black SG model but it wasn't in stock at the time

[lone imp]

i could see anbernic installing debian, stripping the ui, and just having it boot directly into ES. that would be a quick and dirty rk3576 hack

[sour olive]

I'd probably get one if that were to happen

Someone will find a way to restore full Debian

[lone imp]

hmmm... sige5's are only 92usd for the 8gb version. an extra 11 for the cooler. too bad they don't have it in build-your-own-laptop form

[blazing bough]

No

[keen heath]

It is

[blazing bough]

3:2 is bigger on a 16:9 screen

[keen heath]

No it isn't

[blazing bough]

No

[keen heath]

See chat

All the math is there

If you can counter the math sure go for it

But ataris literally measured and said otherwise too

[blazing bough]

What's that website again

By shaun

[worn topaz]

i think the confusion is that for example to have a 4 inch 4:3 screen on a 16:9 device you need a 5 inch 16:9 screen

[blazing bough]

You can literally see GBA being bigger

[worn topaz]

and on that 16:9 screen gba will be bigger

but on a 4in 4:3 vs 4in 16:9 gba will be bigger in 4:3

[keen heath]

Yep

[blazing bough]

I mean

[keen heath]

It's a weird thing to compare because aspect rstio

[blazing bough]

I'm assuming the logical thing

[keen heath]

But mathematically, 3:2 is closer to 4:3

Can't deny that

[blazing bough]

Where the diagonal counted for 4:3 but 16:9 is the length

That's how it is in this space

[worn topaz]

what

its always the diagonal for screen size

[blazing bough]

Am I wrong on that

[keen heath]

Yeah

[blazing bough]

Alright yes Im wrong lol

[radiant kettle]

so, 4,5 inch 4:3 is the same height as 5,5 inch 16:9

boom

[blazing bough]

That's the website

[radiant kettle]

boom

done

[blazing bough]

Yep

That's what I mean

[radiant kettle]

16:9 is bigger if we're talking the same height screen

[keen heath]

Black bars are smaller on 4:3 display

[radiant kettle]

and screen size is bigger on 16:9

[keen heath]

But 3:2 is closer to 4:3 than 16:9 right?

[radiant kettle]

depends on what you mean by that

[keen heath]

I mean what I said

It's quite literal

3:2 is closer to 4:3 aspect ratio

Than 16:9 aspect ratio

[radiant kettle]

yes

[blazing bough]

I guess yea

16;9 is still better for 3:2 tho

[keen heath]

Not quite but we all have our opinions

I can respect that

[radiant kettle]

just buy an rp flip 2 and have every aspect ratio look great

[blazing bough]

Most reviewers would usually recommend a widescreen device for gba

[keen heath]

If you're doing retro gaming, 4:3 >16:9

[worn topaz]

tbh for me gba kinda looks like shit if its too big anyways

and by too big i mean anything bigger than like rg34xx

[radiant kettle]

i like gba on flip 2 a lot

[keen heath]

Yep, gba looks shit on a hug screen, I hate it on my rp5 and not a big fan on the vita either

[keen heath]

I don't watch those dudes lol

[radiant kettle]

just use deep lcd shader and it won't look ugly

[keen heath]

If you're a retro gamer, 4:3 wins all day.

I play snes ps1 and gba. 4:3 wins

[worn topaz]

my laptop is 3:2 and technically x9 gba integer scale lol

[radiant kettle]

i just prefer my devices do a lot of things

[worn topaz]

but its a meme to play that big

[blazing bough]

3:2 is my favorite aspect ratio anyway

[short goblet]

yes, there is something weird about playing GBA or Lynx games on a massive screen

[radiant kettle]

16:9 is my favorite cause there's no fuss, almost every game will run at that aspect ratio

it's kinda what i hate about the deck being 16:10

[blazing bough]

I like playing 4:3 on a 3:2 screen but not 3:2 on a 4:3 screen if that makes sense

[sour olive]

6th Gen is Retro Gaming

[keen heath]

I just wanted to, regardless of preference. 4:3 is going to have smaller black bars for gba

[sour olive]

And 7th Gen as Well

[keen heath]

The, words make sense but the logic does not, to me.

But each to their own

[blazing bough]

Also big thing is I don't like vertical black bars (unless it's an OLED)

Side is fine to me

[keen heath]

That makes More sense now

I'm the, opposite

[worn topaz]

remember when people were hyping up 1:1 screens for some reason even though they were ass as scaling basically anything but gameboy games

[radiant kettle]

to me it depends on the device, for a 4:3 screen just push the screen to the top and maybe add a gba bezel, on a 16:9 i hate black bars unless it's on a clamshell

[keen heath]

I hated the 1:1 displays stuff. Everyone was creaming for that rgb30 or whatever it was called

[short goblet]

1:1 works better than you think on 4:3 with slight crop

[radiant kettle]

1:1 rocks for playing nes, snes and pc engine at 8:7

[short goblet]

yep or the 8:7

[sour olive]

31:27 Supremacy

[keen heath]

Yep I use bezels on my 353M. And sometimes I just stretch it to 4:3... The black bars for gba on 4:3 are so so small I fail to believe people have a issue with it

[radiant kettle]

aspect ratio is non negotiable, i never stretch except when it's something like nes or snes

where both answers are correct

[sour olive]

The only correct answer is 16:9 because then you can play everything without limits

[keen heath]

The black bars do be tiny for gba on a 4:3 display though.. Like they're literally tiny

[blazing bough]

But you can still see them

[keen heath]

I don't play 16:9 systems Though, it's just... Switch?

[radiant kettle]

i know, i've seen them, i still can tell it's stretched

[keen heath]

You can see vertical lines more and they're bigger

[radiant kettle]

and psp, and pc gaming in general

[sour olive]

But other people do

[keen heath]

On a 353m? No thanks to switch and pc gaming

[blazing bough]

You can't if you focus the middle front the top of the device to the bottom

That's why I like it more than vertical bars

[radiant kettle]

well yeah, i mean as a reason to have a 16:9 device

[keen heath]

Idj man, vertical bars are awful for me and too noticeable

[blazing bough]

With vertical bars it's always in your gameplay area

Vertical as in top and bottom

[keen heath]

Yesh where I don't mind them if they're small

[sour olive]

That's just like your opinion man

[keen heath]

I personally mind the side ones

[keen heath]

I did say "for me"

[sour olive]

https://tenor.com/view/shaggy-scared-zoinks-surprised-gif-15872371

Yeah but some people have a tendency to only want 4:3 devices for everything that gets announced

[keen heath]

I suppose if you wanted an all in one device 16:9 is fine. I just have my psp switch Gamehub on rp5 and everything else on a 4:3 display

[blazing bough]

I don't have any 4:3 devices in rotation anyway. Powered off and stored elsewhere

[radiant kettle]

i wouldn't call these vertical bars annoying, hell, they basically don't exist

[blazing bough]

I just use a 3:2 screen if I want 4:3 stuff

And a 16:9 for 16:9 stuff

[blazing bough]

On a OLED it's fine

[radiant kettle]

especially on a clamshell

[worn topaz]

for me somehow on clamshells I don't mind any kind of black bars

yeah

[radiant kettle]

where the vertical bars aren't between your hands

that's why the flip 2 is a completely different beast from the rp5 for retro games in my opinion

everything looks right

[worn topaz]

i guess its also because on the ds for example the top screen has gigantic bezels but it just doesnt matter

[radiant kettle]

yeah the device is narrow so black bars aren't very important

meanwhile on a regular horizontal, you have a wide ass device with a bunch of empty space

[sour olive]

Anyone have GammaOS on their Retroid Pocket Classic?

[blazing bough]

Yea I do

What about it

[quick cloak]

We arguing about well established screen ratio differences now?

It's math bruh

Math gonna math regardless of feelings

[radiant kettle]

well feelings do a lot

[quick cloak]

Sure

I'm playing PS1 on a 16:9 screen right now and I love every second of it.

[radiant kettle]

can't tell me pillarboxing feels the same on a horizontal vs a clamshell with the same screen

[quick cloak]

I don't know. I can't notice pillar boxing while I'm so stoked to play these cool games

It certainly is amazing the things humans come up with to be distracted instead of enjoying themselves.

[sour olive]

How is it?

You can do Widescreen Hacks on PS1

[lone imp]

toxic masculinity means handhelds shouldn't make you feel bad.

[quick cloak]

Widescreen hacks ftw

[sour olive]

Metal Gear Solid looks great in Widescreen

[quick cloak]

I used a wide core for mega drive in RA and played some SoR2. It was.... interesting

[blazing bough]

I mean I love the device and the screen is lovely

Im only having handheld systems on it tho

Widescreen mgs wouldn't make sense on the 8:7 screen tho regardless

[sour olive]

It's for 16:9

Retroid Pocket Classic is 31:27

But you get OLED which doesn't seem to exist in 4:3, 3:2 or 1:1

[lusty adder]

PS3 and Xbox360 are retro too btw = 20 years old already
It's because the graphics were already optimized and looks fresh but these are in line for the retro tag too

[sour olive]

Yep

It also makes me feel old

It doesn't feel like 20 years

[lusty adder]

Nope , they still look fresh imo
I wonder where time went , it seems so recent to me , i was 13 at the time

[lone imp]

retro is still mostly agreed upon as pre-hdmi output and wired controllers

so s-video, rca, or antenna coax-tier a/v

[blazing bough]

I dunno, retro is purely age as far as I'm concerned

[sour olive]

PS3 and Xbox 360 can also be used with RCA

[radiant kettle]

yeah i don't see among whomst that is mostly agreed upon

most people say it's 20 years

[lone imp]

I'm going by what game stores call retro or what they stock in their retro section.

[sour olive]

Retro Game Stores also have PS3 and 360

[lone imp]

Society's going to vote on whatever it thinks is valid regardless. that's the way it works

I just know that if I walk into a cybertron or 2nd & Charles, and wonder over to the retro counter, maybe they'll have an old wii-u there, but mostly they try to leave 7th gen and up in the main area.

[kindred widget]

Erm ackshually retro is anything older than me

[radiant kettle]

i don't think retro stores are the authority on this

if xbox 360 starts being valuable someday, they'll stock 360s

[blazing bough]

I mean my local retro game stores stocks Wii Us

[sour olive]

They also stock 3DS

[sour olive]

DS came out 22 Years Ago

PS2 is 26 Years Old

[kindred widget]

PS3 was released 2 days before I was born

[smoky igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/savingprivateryan-ww2-old-soldier-matt-damon-gif-4203998

My parents gifted me the Ps3 because it finally dropped in price to $400. It was a High School Graduation Gift. It was my only Present from all of our Family but it was everything to me

[teal sonnet]

Not bad , not into GI or know how demanding it is but nice to see it can do some higher end Android gaming .
Never knew there were RK 3576 tablets

[sour olive]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-gif-2421249060515128977

[sour olive]

That's a great present

[naive prairie]

I wish I’d gotten a PS3 when I graduated. I’d have been a god.

[keen heath]

That's true tbh, I didn't consider the orientation of the device. On a vertical device, vertical bars are more preferable. On a horizontal device, I'd prefer horizontal bars. If that even makes sense

[keen heath]

Damn I feel old now. I was born before ps1 😭

My dad's car had one built in with screens on the back seats

Was cool in the 90s

[radiant kettle]

yeah makes total sense, that's why i don't think pillar or letterboxing are inherently better or worse

[keen heath]

Yesh I completely neglected to consider the device layout too

I'd definitely prefer pillarboxing on a vertical device

[glossy zodiac]

I think I come off that way tbh. I just get upset when someone specs out a 16:9 device that can't play 16:9 systems.

Oh, and I get upset when everyone makes excuses for these companies cheaping out and buying Lthe wrong screen by saying 'oh but it can play PSP, GC and PS2.'

Like, yeah. Two of those are 4:3 systems, and even then, if I'm emulating 15 systems and a whopping ONE is 16:9, maybe I want a device with a more appropriate screen.

[radiant kettle]

for me ps2 works well at 16:9, there's enough games that natively support it as well as widescreen hacks

[keen heath]

Ps2/Gc, If im on my rp5, I'm using widescreen hacks. If I'm on my Galaxy fold, I play in 4:3

[sour olive]

Wii exists

It's also a bit of a bad analogy as 4:3 was a standard longer than 16:9 so of course there's more 4:3 systems

[naive prairie]

Try being the same age as the Magnavox Odyssey ... then you'll feel old!

[kindred widget]

Dawg I think that's just prehistoric

[naive prairie]

The Odyssey is capable of displaying three square dots and a vertical line on the screen. ... Now that's advanced graphics.

[dry kelp]

https://retrohandhelds.gg/anbernic-rg-vita-review/

[tawny lynx]

Rg vita pro reveal tomorrow

[dry kelp]

Once Anbernic is back from CNY probably (likely tomorrow)

[sour olive]

Copium Take

They delayed the Pro because it now includes a D8300

[keen heath]

Yo that's like.. My dad's age 😮

[thick orchid]

TAKE MA MONEY

wait

noi

I DONT WANT THAT

[sour olive]

Is there even anyone here that that owner a Magnavox Odyssey when it was out

[sour olive]

I do

[thick orchid]

slowly im realizing maybe, just maybe, the 505 is what i need

[sour olive]

You'll actually be able to play Vita games

[thick orchid]

for 2x psp

[sour olive]

BRUH

[thick orchid]

oh i just want to play PSP

[sour olive]

I literally recommend that days ago

[kindred widget]

Erm ackshually you should just get the 476h

[sour olive]

2X looks great on it too

[thick orchid]

yes and im slowly realizing i should follow that advice

[sour olive]

Just make sure to install GammaOS

[thick orchid]

i will wait for the next big sale

[sour olive]

It will upgrade you to Android 14 and you'll gain more performance

[kindred widget]

Get a 557 to play PSP at a 22x upscale

[thick orchid]

and get a whopping 20 dollar off

[thick orchid]

i will get that, for 4:3 things

[thick orchid]

please. PSP is dpad centric. this is not

[kindred widget]

I got it

Get one of these instead

[thick orchid]

no. not 2x

[kindred widget]

You upscaling little snobs

[thick orchid]

how well does this play ps2 anyways

[quaint mirage]

Not well

[kindred widget]

With a lot of messing with settings just about

[thick orchid]

i rather play normal res. but if my screen is 2x and im not, its muddy af to me

[kindred widget]

Which is why threw the 557 out there

Which can play PS2 upscaled reliably

[thick orchid]

then how come it seems like the 406h does decent at ps2.................?

i played like 20 games on it, none of them had any issues

[kindred widget]

A LOT of settings changes

[quaint mirage]

you found all 20 games that run on a T618

[thick orchid]

nah dude, i just played normal with minimal tweaks

[kindred widget]

For the T820 I'd say GameCube is your limit

[thick orchid]

so that is why i need the 477m dont i?

[kindred widget]

PS2 is pushing it

[kindred widget]

The 477M can crush PS2 with upscaling sooooo

[thick orchid]

also, heres the kicker.............

[thick orchid]

i own 3 odin pros

[quaint mirage]

[kindred widget]

No monies?

[kindred widget]

Oh

[sour olive]

For some games sure. Most of the games use the Nub

[thick orchid]

AND I WILL HAVE THE JOYSTICK ON BOT TO REPLICATE THAT EXPERIENCE

[thick orchid]

is this a 3:2 device?

[kindred widget]

You'll be replicating how meh it was?

[quaint mirage]

1440x1080 is 4:3

[kindred widget]

Well at least you have an actual stick

And not some fuckass nub

[sour olive]

That's bad for PSP

[thick orchid]

yes

[thick orchid]

ye nah, not for me

[quaint mirage]

The sky is blue

[thick orchid]

3:2 i would have considered

but but 4:3 for ps2 if the dreamtwo can perform i will buy

[quaint mirage]

Anything 3:2 has been cursed

Or cancelled

[thick orchid]

ye i will get this

and skip the vita

will wait for next sale

[sour olive]

RG34XXSP

[thick orchid]

honestly i hated the 34xxsp

[quaint mirage]

Eww

[thick orchid]

but everyone thinks im the moron

jsut coz i didnt like the device

[spring orchid]

mangmi air x has a 1080p screen and can do 2x psp

[quaint mirage]

Nah you’re perfectly fine

That thing shouldn’t have had sticks and a big ahh forehead

[spring orchid]

has nice grips too feels good to hold

also the mangmi air x can do some low end vita games with turnip drivers

[thick orchid]

it wasnt even the forehead. the device was just cramp in my hands

the 35XX sp was better

screen was not tho

[spring orchid]

it's around $100 so same as the 505

[quaint mirage]

That thing needs a 3567 + 720p screen refresh

Goated handheld though

If Anbernic offers more colors after launch you know it’s a good handheld

[thick orchid]

not dpad on top. SOC cant utilize the screen properly and im a pixel peeper

[spring orchid]

it is dpad top

what

[thick orchid]

it is?

ma bad

[quaint mirage]

It is

[thick orchid]

i will relook at this

[spring orchid]

here's mine

[sour olive]

Mangmi Air X is great PSP Device

[kindred widget]

Yea the Air X is pretty solid for PSP

[sour olive]

It's such a great handheld for the price

And it's $100

[spring orchid]

yeah it can do some psp games at 3-4x resolution

was playing mh portable 3rd at 4x with no issues iirc

[thick orchid]

oh i was thinking of the max

[spring orchid]

ah

doesn't that have swappable buttons anyways?

[kindred widget]

Pocket Max?

[thick orchid]

design

[kindred widget]

Yea tbh I wouldn't even look at that one

[sour olive]

What's wrong with the RG34XXSP?

[quaint mirage]

@sour olive

[thick orchid]

GOD OF WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR

[kindred widget]

It's a fine fine device

[sour olive]

Eh

[kindred widget]

But at 240 bucks retail it ain't great

Especially with the 865 it has.

[spring orchid]

it will run god of war

[kindred widget]

And thats not me calling the 865 bad its still a good chip

[spring orchid]

I can test it myself if you want

[kindred widget]

Just not at that price

[spring orchid]

I actually was playing vita god of war collection on mine

it had some lag but it was playable enough

[thick orchid]

it wont run 3-4x

[spring orchid]

yeah not at that res

but it should run at 1-2x

which is same as the 505

[thick orchid]

if thats the case, id rather 2x like the 505

[thick orchid]

it will look muddy to me

2x on a 4x screen

[spring orchid]

ppsspp also upscales somewhat so it looks nicer on a 1080p screen even at 2x

the UI and stuff I mean

[spring orchid]

it really doesnt

psp at 2x is like PS2 level graphics

it looks nice on the air x's screen

well for 3d models at least

textures can be an issue

I don't know that low res textures would look that much better on the 505 screen tho

you can mitigate it tho with a shader gammaOS comes with a global lcd3x shader and that makes games look nice even with low res textures for text and UI

[thick orchid]

Good god i cant decide between the two anymore

RG505 vs Mangmi

both have gamma as well

so the only solution

buy the 476h or 477m

[naive prairie]

RG505 comes in this wonderful color, though:

[sour olive]

https://youtu.be/4HL4fpyHXL4?si=WnSTLqwi-uwy5C5k

It can also play the Vita games with GammaOS

[sour olive]

Fate Grand Order?

[naive prairie]

You don't strictly NEED GammaOS to play Vita on the RG505, but you might want GammaOS for other reasons.

[naive prairie]

The dark secret of what I do with some of the less powerful Android handhelds: FGO alt accounts.

[sour olive]

Sad

You could have been playing a good game instead

Like Fate Grand Order Arcade

I doubt that actually runs on the RG505

[naive prairie]

The RG505 is a handheld that came with freaking Ishtar as a default backdrop. It was destined to be an FGO device.

[sour olive]

Weeb

Now excuse me while I play Dead or Alive Xtreme

[naive prairie]

Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus is more appropriate for this forum.

Or maybe Monster Monpiece

[sour olive]

Pff

Amateur

Real Men play GalGun

[lusty adder]

Copium Max: They will use the pro as the entry for the new D9500 for 2026

[sour olive]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-andy-dwyer-parks-and-rec-chris-pratt-gif-15844559

[silver idol]

@thick orchid You can get 70% of PS2 games running at Native Resolution on a T820. The main problem is the GPU.

[keen shell]

Edit: disregard my comment, I have to learn how to read

wow, you're generous. Maybe 70% with speed hacks, normally it would be around 30%, so the lighter type of games will work, some even upscaled. I remember I was playing God Hand upscaled at 1.25 on the RG505 without any issues, just some minor slowdowns here and there. Bigger games were a mess.

[cunning bane]

aren't they talking about the t820? the 505 is t618

[keen shell]

o yeah, sorry. I didn't even read it correctly, just judged base on the discussion title. Did I mention I cannot read?

[lone imp]

top 5% of ps2 are unplayable on t820. the rest is either playable at stock or with speedhacks. -1/1EE and 101% speed(aka 31fps/vps) and almost the entire library is playable.

[glacial gust]

I played shit tons of ps2 games on my t820 device
So weird seeing people saying ps2 isn't playable on it

[lone imp]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_2_games_(A–K)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_2_games_(L–Z)
the problem is getting ADD after realizing your favorite game doesn't run perfectly, and then running around discord spouting it can't play ps2. it's a long list of 4346 games.

this is a society though. if enough people say t820 can't play ps2, it starts to become some sort of ethical standard

[glacial gust]

Lmfao

[lone imp]

so the theory is like.. those ~217 games that either crash or are too slow to speed hack in the upper 5%? those are the games people -want- to play. Stuff like Killzone, bleach blade battlers 2, sly cooper(not sure why even rp4 pro people struggle with that), Driv3r, NFL street 3...

[silver idol]

Yes I was talking about the T820 @keen shell .

[silver idol]

From my gameplay it's mostly games that require a stronger GPU.

[lone imp]

usually the answer is play the gamecube or pc version. even the t618 can play pc 6th gen rather nimbly on low graphics if emulation is bad.

[cunning bane]

i'm a platformer person and the sly games look cool

but i hear the later ones are quite demanding

[teal sonnet]

Hope we see dome reviews of the Pro model soon , it's the only model that might be worth it to me personally

[lone imp]

if it doesn't have both mini-hdmi, usb-c power, and usb-c OTG, it's dead to me

[naive prairie]

The T820 series was basically the first one I was comfortable saying that you could play PS2 on it. There are still some games that won’t work, but by and large you should have a satisfying experience on a T820. The T618 is the one where I got annoyed with YouTubers talking about how it can play PS2.

[lone imp]

it's all based on their sampling. if the reviewer only tests GTA3, SD Gundam Generation tactics games, and some jrpgs, yeah t618 looks pretty great

[hallow willow]

ah fun times 😄 yeah ive had a fairly nice experience with ps2 on t820, all things told

[lone imp]

https://www.reddit.com/r/retroid/comments/1236dnt/another_ps2_game_that_performs_well_on_the_rp3/
19fps outside / 40-50fps indoors = performs well. eh, at least they're having fun

[worn topaz]

i remember the compatibility lists for the RP3+ to be uhhh optimistic in describing playability

[quick cloak]

Lol

[lone imp]

a chunk of the community is in the hobby just to see what games run and if they're fun to play. I imagine those lists were made by someone opening up a 100 roms for the first time for each system just to FAFO and record the results.

[quick cloak]

Menu load? Game runs

On to the next one

[sour olive]

Decided to upgrade my Thor to a Max

Might as well as get it now than worry about price increases in the future

[cunning bane]

i mean, if you can post the title screen to reddit, why not?

[keen heath]

These make me laugh. There's people on r/emulationonandroid posting how they've beat god of war or wukong start to finish on Gamehub

And then you see the average fps is 14.....

[lone imp]

those are true gamers

[tawny lynx]

And stretched to 20:9

[keen heath]

Such a sin! I was with a friend yesterday who has dispatch up on his redmagic 11 via Gamehub, and it was stretched to full screen 😭 looked hideous

[naive prairie]

I mean, some people just lie to get a reaction on Reddit.

Now all that said, I actually did beat Borderlands 2 on the PS Vita and for a lot of the time it sure felt like the framerate was 15FPS.

[thick orchid]

you are a mad man

[keen heath]

Borderlands 2 even with the max overclock is a painful experience for me on vita 😭

[naive prairie]

But this was 2014. Times were hard.

(and this was without overclocking)

Funny thing is that most handhelds these days that can run Vita3K give a far better experience for BL2 Vita than the actual Vita does. The T618 device I have, ironically enough given what's in the RG Vita, gives a close-to-Vita experience.

[keen heath]

I'm not surprised, I couldn't even get 60fps out of Pokemon Unbound of the vita with max overclock 😂

[blazing bough]

I brought out my actual vita the other day

Man, forgot how much it really sucks for emulation

[naive prairie]

To be fair here, what other handheld from 2011 does better in this category?

[blazing bough]

I mean I understand that

Still doesn't change the fact that most cheap emulation devices outclass it for emulation for other systems outside of actual vita

And PSP I suppose

Past me might not have cared but I need at minimum a good interpolation shader on my systems these days

[naive prairie]

I don't think it's reasonable to suggest a Vita for general emulation at any rate. If you want a Vita, you should be wanting to play the Sony stuff - and that it at least does.

[blazing bough]

True I suppose

[worn topaz]

vita as an emulation console only really makes sense in the "well if you already have one you might as well try it out" way

especially a few yrs ago where there wasn't as much stuff

[kindred widget]

Yea dawg I'd only recommend a Vita for PSP, PS1 and obviously Vita.

Idk if GBA can run 100% on it but I beat Aria of Sorrow on it 2 years ago.

[glacial gust]

If only the vita can actually play borderland 2
That's one of the games where emulators are actually the better choice

[untold hazel]

So did anyone pre-order the pro version?

[blazing bough]

Wdym preorder

It's not available yet

[untold hazel]

Anbernic so slow 🦥

[blazing bough]

It won't be available til the 3rd week of March

[lone imp]

you have to lower the resolution 1 notch. it's an old hack
https://www.reddit.com/r/vitahacks/comments/6taj2f/fixing_borderlands_2_vita_version/

408p is a decent resolution to play at

[keen heath]

Yeah I remember messing with different resolutions for need for speed to find the right balance of fps

[naive prairie]

The real issue these days with Borderlands 2 on an actual Vita is the controls. You need that L2/R2 grip if you want to play reasonably comfortably.

I am being converted to playing Borderlands 2 on Android these days with GameNative, though. At least for my Snapdragons.

[jagged shoal]

GammaOS will be available for the RG VITA Pro from day 1, and it might be the start of a more in-depth collab between Gamma and ANBERNIC https://www.thememorycore.com/feb-27-2026/

[quick cloak]

Yeah, hopefully those fat Anbernic checks won't affect Gamma ability to produce for other devices

If he becomes in-house Anbernic BS fixer then that's going to be a bummer

Getting paid directly a whole other game

Max Anbernic be calling you at 2am, I don't want that heat

[naive prairie]

If Anbernic devices start coming WITH GammaOS or the equivalent, it would certainly make their devices more attractive. Who wants to buy a new device only to immediately have to deal with paying extra (to get the firmware without waiting) and then having to flash new "unofficial" firmware just to make the new device work properly?

(I mean, if you just like flashing firmware that's fine. But if you just want to play a damn game ... 🙃 )

[quick cloak]

It's definitely a good move on Anbernic's part, but there's zero chance they won't try to leverage his time to their direct benefit.

If they lock down one of the community most beloved cfw proprietor....idk, game over man

[naive prairie]

I mean ... man deserves to be paid for his efforts. And Anbernic devices seem to be the only popular ones that NEED GammaOS.

[quick cloak]

Tbf he does get paid, He's just presumably being paid much larger amounts by Anbernic now.

I just hope he keeps cooking on other stoves is all

Obviously this is something Gamma wanted to do so will have to see where it goes

[blazing bough]

It's unlikely that the device will ship with GammaOS pre-installed, but the idea is to use the RG VITA Pro to gauge interest. If the install base is large enough, the company may start working directly with Gamma on future releases.

Ya'll better be buying this :3

[quick cloak]

Lol

How are they going to determine the install base?

Is that a self-report?

[lone imp]

it better have an hdmi port. don't do the same shit the rg505 did

[quick cloak]

Tough times we're in

HDMI shortage

[naive prairie]

I see basically two things that keep Anbernic from simply dominating this market: (1) No Snapdragons (2) Bad software.

[quick cloak]

So just hardware and software then?

[naive prairie]

For software, they can just "pay Gamma". It's really that simple.

[quick cloak]

True

[cunning bane]

i called it

[quick cloak]

GGFI - Gamma gonna fix it

[naive prairie]

Not sure what they can do about the hardware side. They can already make hinges that don't break. They can already make slide mechanisms and decent 4:3 screens. They just need SOCs with decent driver support for higher end emulation, and they seem allergic to Qualcomm for some reason.

[cunning bane]

can you imagine how this could affect their handhelds?

[quick cloak]

Yeah, we know hardware releases are going to be significantly less this year

[naive prairie]

To be fair, the D8300 is no slouch - but it just can't compete when you need updated drivers (like for PC emulation).

[quick cloak]

Smart to focus on the software side with more limited releases and a fully functional handheld OS

[lone imp]

tfw the d8300 can't save anbernic

[quick cloak]

If they finagle SD chips and link up with Gamma then it will be a new dawn

Their strategy should be to release a couple devices that kick ass

Since they can't afford to crank out 13 devices now, must focus on UI and software experience

[teal sonnet]

They would have to stop selling handhelds that include ROMs

[quick cloak]

Yeah they should probably stop doing that

Seems like it's impacting their bottom line

[cunning bane]

more specifically, devices that include ROM downloaders

[teal sonnet]

That too

[cunning bane]

that's what's truly messed up

[tawny lynx]

Bundling games just makes them seen as a less legit business

[quick cloak]

I can't imagine why you'd be buying these devices for the games.

[tawny lynx]

People are lazy

[cunning bane]

i feel like the people who buy these things NOT from a tiktok shop kinda go into these things with a better idea of how the games actually work

so removing bundled in games seems reasonable, especially now

[lone imp]

community's also really fickle and bored.

[quick cloak]

Just stop being sleazy and people will give you more business

[teal sonnet]

It aint easy being sleazy

[cunning bane]

also, the thor is SELLING, and that has no built in games

[quick cloak]

Ain't that the truth

[tawny lynx]

It's to the point where I still see people ask if retroid and ayn handhelds come with games

[lone imp]

like, if you aren't playing through games on your devices, you're complaining that there aren't enough new devices to entertain you. that's the overall vibe

[naive prairie]

Chinese handheld company not being sleazy challenge. Level: impossible

[quick cloak]

[tawny lynx]

It's Boss Yang's fault

[quick cloak]

I mean, I don't mind a side of sleaze once in a while

[lone imp]

just boil it first so you don't get the shits

[hallow willow]

being overpriced as well usually goes against them too

[lone imp]

https://youtube.com/shorts/gg6RWuu9OXM?si=hOMLDog6NfPMJ5l7

[naive prairie]

If the software was actually good out of the box, that's extra value and would make the devices less "overpriced".

But they do seem to use the model that if you want to be one of the first with their devices, you usually end up paying more and unless you want to be first, just wait for a sale.

[quick cloak]

Could you imagine if a device arrived and required no setup guide?

[lone imp]

that was the 556

[cunning bane]

"yoooooooo, add your rom files in these folders, hit a, have fun"

[lone imp]

required no gamma, controls loosened up with use, was rooted and needed no updates. had a launcher and some preset folders to stick shit in

[quick cloak]

Message pops up, "wtf are you doing in settings, go play games!"

[cunning bane]

always thought the black 556 looked so sleek

but the white 557 does not hit the same at all

colored buttons on a white unit just look a bit odd imo

[lone imp]

i was drawn in by diablo 3 and torchlight 2 running day one in yuzu

[quick cloak]

Diablo 💕

[hallow willow]

i mean, i used my 556 for 6 months and my controls did not loosen up with use xD

[cunning bane]

also, i never had an issue with joy-con sticks, so it doesn't seem like a bad option

[lone imp]

mine is two years old. i wish the sticks were back to schizo-snappy at times

[raw ice]

The t618 does not support hdmi

And the 3576 supports usb C DP

[lone imp]

i guarrantee you if i plug my x28 into a tv, the hdmi will work

it has full hdmi support

[quaint mirage]

I think that’s the display’s video out port and not the T618’s
Or maybe it’s some patched up hdmi solution where they mirror the screen

[lone imp]

what you said makes zero sense, but i can understand why you think it works that way. the t618 has a mipi lane and an hdmi lane. in most use cases, the hdmi lane is clipped.

[raw ice]

It’s using a secondary chip to translate the screen signal into hdmi, which is why hdmi out on the x28 and the rp3+ both exist but are horribly jank

[raw ice]

That mirroring is exactly what it is

Retroid did the same thing

Basically a chip that splits the signal to the screen and translates to HDMI

[quaint mirage]

I think Taki mentioned it during one of his reviews, but I forgot which video exactly

[raw ice]

The t618 does not natively support external displays and anbernic never bothered with the hacky shit

But at any rate the pro version can do 4k60 output via usb C

[lone imp]

so it can support a samsung DEX dock probably

[raw ice]

Probably? It should work with anything that is compatible with usb c DisplayPort

Any usb c hub with hdmi or DisplayPort on it, etc

I love devices I can dock with a single usb C cable for peripherals, video, and charging

[lone imp]

that's good at the very least.i have a splitter with a single hdmi port and usb-out, that might be good for a video wire+xbox-controller setup

[keen heath]

Anbernic master race !!

[quick cloak]

Anbernic and Gamma will rule all

Will be Gambernic soon

Bc Vita Pro will be a wild success

[teal sonnet]

Depends on price ? Gamma OS is a pretty big deal but only if the hardware is worth it and that's still a pretty big unknown

[lone imp]

gameMT ex8 is dropping in april for ~97usd local plus whatever cost will be added for international. there will at the very least be some mass-market Helio g99 underdog competition

[near locust]

I wish the vita pro uses the T820

With Gamma and that chip, the vita pro could be a decent handheld

[sour olive]

Lol

[cunning bane]

i would, but like, why

can't even do full gamecube, doesn't fill that itch

the most convincing aspect will be the controls, when more people get to test them

[quick cloak]

If Anbernic is using Gamma to entice more RG Vita Pro sales I'm not sure that will be a long term success. Most people who would buy it still will regardless of someone working on a CFW. They say it's being used as a test bed essentially, could be they never work together again or Gamma could be resident software developer for Anbernic, we don't know.

[cunning bane]

that'd be the sad outcome

[quick cloak]

Assuming they go another round Anbernic needs to give him a better platform to work from

[cunning bane]

i think anbernic knows he'll only provide benefits to their stuff

there's already enough reviews saying "this thing's okay, but use gammaos to make it truly useful"

and that's ANOTHER step beyond getting roms, bios files, frontends, scrapping...

so, daijisho and retroarch pre setup? when starting up?

as easy as a linux device, kinda maybe sorta, profit

[undone hemlock]

Y’all put Gamma on too high of a pedestal

[quick cloak]

Small community syndrome

How else can I enjoy my handhelds unless I have several CFW options to choose from and tinker with?

We need more triple booting

[silver idol]

What about Rocknix?

[silver idol]

Triple Booting? Into what?

[quick cloak]

Windows, Linux, SteamOS

Android, 2x Linux

Idk

We need options

Tired of no innovation in this hobby

[sour olive]

SteamOS when?

[quick cloak]

Lol

[teal sonnet]

There is no denying Gamma OS makes things better than stock slop Anbernic OS

[undone hemlock]

I don’t, but Gamma can only do so much to eek out performance

[short goblet]

https://youtube.com/live/I0ybsWxvYps?feature=share

[short goblet]

battery life on this is around 5-6 hours dreamcast

[blazing bough]

That's actually very good

[teal sonnet]

There are plenty of other QoL improvements with Gamma OS than just eeking performance though

[sour olive]

Sure but it's still going to be a mediocre device

[tawny lynx]

Methinks anbernic may not be using the strongest glass https://www.reddit.com/r/ANBERNIC/s/EgWMqDxQjX

[kindred widget]

Anbernic shouldn't be doing glass fronts imo

They're like the one company I can think of that are better off without it

[quick cloak]

I don't mind the option for a glass front device (love the 476H) but I wouldn't hand it to my 10 year old nephew

[teal sonnet]

Exactly
Besides the almost indestructible GameBoy I wouldn’t give a kid a $250 handheld , maybe if it had a wrist strap but even then . Kids are good at breaking things by accident

[charred marsh]

I was about to post this exact thread. For all the uproar over the RP Flip 1, I am seeing WAY more broken glass fronts these days than I ever saw hinge issues on clams.

[sour olive]

The Retroid Pocket Classic is so great

Also of course the glass is going to break if your drop it

[charred marsh]

Your odds are better with a classic because only 50% of the front is glass.

[blazing bough]

I mean

I don't want a plastic screen if that's what people are saying lol

All glass front is very different from the screen being glass

Who the heck complains about that part lol

[short goblet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXelJyEQRKQ

[cunning bane]

...they made a GOOD demo video????

[blazing bough]

man the white one looks gorgeous

[terse parrot]

The H700 lives /s

From the description (I guess we knew all this anyway but first time Anbernic have confirmed the deets):

The RG VITA Pro features an Android 14 / Linux 64-bit dual system. Available in two colors: Black and White. It is equipped with a 5.5-inch IPS INCELL touchscreen with a 1920*1080 resolution.

WIFI 6 Module: Supports handheld play of 3A games via streaming and supports online multiplayer.

USB Type-C: Supports 1080p DisplayPort output (supports dual-screen display for NDS and 3DS games).

[cunning bane]

wait what h700? where?

this chip can dual boot

[terse parrot]

Their Linux interface lol, it's reminiscent of their Linux build on the H700 devices

With the whole Game Rooms/RA Game/etc layout

[cunning bane]

i suppose

does look a hell of a lot cleaner than arial font

[midnight badger]

its not fun when it falls and shatters lol

[hallow willow]

i haven't dropped any of my glass devices or phones once in decades of using them 😄 for those who give fragile things to their goblins it's kinda on them, kids are notorious for being butter fingers

[midnight badger]

i am extra careful even on my plastic phones and devices but let me tell you that we do sometimes drop them lol

[hallow willow]

true 😄

[blazing bough]

Not talking about the glass front but the screen being glass

At least that's what the comment i was replying was talking about

[mighty pumice]

all emulator statistics/fps turned off as usual..
how does the dual boot works? sd card inserted auto goes to linux or something?

[raven sierra]

Hmm… even the video on Bilibili was removed too🤔

[short goblet]

maybe had an error in it

[cunning bane]

that's too easy, there must be a conspiracy going on

[short goblet]

I couldn't see anything amiss with it so maybe it was too early

[terse parrot]

Too many Nintendo games

[short goblet]

yeah it did show the famous plumber

[terse parrot]

They were showing Pokemon Sun on 3DS too

The day after Pokemon day no less, scandalous

[teal sonnet]

Damn missed the video

[mighty pumice]

You don't miss much imo.

[lone imp]

nintendo ripped the video and held them at gunpoint

but seriously, just showcase some different games

Macross M3 for dreamcast, MH3 HD for psp, maybe some San Andreas or Simpsons H&R...

[quick cloak]

Same

[lone imp]

every video that shows GoW triggers moaning noises in statbro circlejerks.

if the IPS has a blue tint to it, that's an easy fix. install Screen Color Filter, select true orange, set opacity to 5-6%, then never touch it again

[spring island]

Soc confirmed yet for the pro?

[teal sonnet]

Think so , everyone says it's the RK3576

[quick cloak]

Anbernic keeping mouth closed until gamma fixes this one too

Think they learned from RG DS

[fervent veldt]

IIRC Gamma has been working on Vita Pro gammaos for weeks

Should drop on launch

[fervent veldt]

If they just flat out hire him, it'll be one of the best arcs in the history of the hobby

[quaint mirage]

does he want to get hired though

[quick cloak]

That'll be a sad day

Keep Gamma Free from corporate control

Lol I expressed that concern on reddit and got downvoted into oblivion

Gammbernic

[fervent veldt]

Idk. I think it'd be cool if Anbernic properly compensated a dev and had a solid cfw come stock

[hallow willow]

people are worried it'll mean no more cfw for non-anbernic devices i guess 😄

it'd be cool if he gets proper compensation ofc

[blissful parcel]

no exclusivity, I'm a free bird

in fact, currently working on the PAM right now

(and anyway, nothing set in stone right now, further discussions need to happen)

but yep, the vita firmwares are all wrapped up, just sitting there to be used

[quick cloak]

Awesome update

Hoping the T620 gets the love one day 🤞

[hallow willow]

glad to hear man 😄

[quick cloak]

Yeah, I want the compensation to flow just have the gamma love spread around multiple devices/SoC

So that's good to hear

[hallow willow]

it's pretty cool to see anbernic reach out directly tbh 😄

[quick cloak]

They obviously know they have shit software and gamma is hot and getting the glaze

For good reason

Basically just announced a celeb collab

WTF else are we supposed to talk about

How awesome the RG Vita pro is stock?

[kindred widget]

You should be getting these for the work you do

[quick cloak]

Gamma has a trash bag though

They pay him in unmarked bills

Better for gamma use case

[cunning bane]

i don't think anyone even considered exclusivity

[restive herald]

The removed the video???

[cunning bane]

the main thing i was thinking is that there should be money involved

he deserves it, for it to be a day 1 thing

[cunning bane]

yea

[subtle shuttle]

Well, as long as they don’t screw him over in that hypothetical timeline, like they did the Jelos/Rocknix devs.

[near locust]

They even delete the promo video?

[quick cloak]

It was a teaser

[blazing bough]

Very high chance it's because of a certain plumber that was in the vid

[spring island]

Plumbers don’t wear ties?

[cunning bane]

https://youtu.be/Qd3n45UZGlw?si=Lc-JTlGlG1t7wmvh&t=74

that's-a him

right there

it's gotta be a schedule mistake

[quick cloak]

Can't see his face though

[terse parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/rusty-shackleford-ski-mask-smoking-snow-winter-gif-17822869681132105784

[twin night]

Wait a dog gone minute... Wifi 6?? Maybe I'll get this as my stream machine to replace the RP5 after all....

[terse parrot]

It's still only able to access the 5Ghz band. You'd need wifi 6e minimum for it to be an upgrade over the RP5.

[twin night]

I don't need an upgrade to the RP5's wifi, just something that is relatively on par. Or are you saying this is still quite a bit worse?

[terse parrot]

Both are Wifi 6

Why would you give up the RP5's OLED for this

[twin night]

Because I'm an idiot that desperately craves the True Oval™ experience

[terse parrot]

Ah fair

Yeah the RP5's grips are so small and useless that it prob would have been better to just be a flat oval lol

The face buttons on this are surely way quieter too

[sour olive]

Ayn Thor and Odin 3 are getting Price Increases due to RAM Prices

[thick orchid]

Supposedly until 2027

Damn the ram and SSD market is fycked

[thick orchid]

Why they remove it

[blazing bough]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-super-mario-64-sm64-super-mario-goku-gif-2924386200580697487

Just a theory tho

[subtle shuttle]

True, there always is the possibility that they somehow earned the ire of Sony instead.

Which, if that is the case, that’s actually just way worse.

[thick orchid]

Did they should some Nintendo stuff on it

[naive prairie]

Anbernic getting copyright striked would be hilarious.

[fossil rose]

Yikes. You think so? Why!

[blazing bough]

It had both Mario and Pokemon

[naive prairie]

They're the only "major" retro handheld maker still openly selling pirated games.

[quick cloak]

Copyright strike while trying to launch products would be pretty funny

[gleaming oak]

vita pro cancelled?

[undone hemlock]

Does it have a price

[naive prairie]

If it was Sony, they'd probably have done something when all the RG Vita videos were being uploaded.

[cunning bane]

which anbernic video says the price

[thick orchid]

in the vid?

[blazing bough]

Yes

[thick orchid]

are they stupid

like wtf

[blazing bough]

It's their typical showcasing games video

[sour olive]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SBCGaming/s/qXXoErSBaU

RG Vita is going to cost $200 at this point

[kindred widget]

And the moral of the story is

Anbernic wins.

[sour olive]

Nice Try Balls Anbernic

Praise Ayn

[kindred widget]

The same Ayn who just raised prices?

Please.

Get the 557 bro

[sour olive]

They kept the Lite the same price

[kindred widget]

You'll have with Retroid no longer does

12GB of RAM

[sour olive]

Praise Ayn

[kindred widget]

256GB of storage

You can't be picky when you're taking RAM in this day and age

[quaint mirage]

Do you even own one yourself?

[kindred widget]

557 soon

[quick cloak]

It's coming

[kindred widget]

There will be a handheld to fill this case

[sour olive]

I bought the Thor before the Price Increase so I'm good

1TB of Storage

Also you already know I own a 557

[kindred widget]

I own the case

Which is just about the closest I've gotten to owning an emulation handheld

[sour olive]

Fake Anbernic Fan

[kindred widget]

Its so over

[sour olive]

I wonder if they'll even do a 558 considering current RAM prices

[quick cloak]

All your RAM are belong to us

[sour olive]

Great Album

https://tenor.com/view/daft-punk-get-lucky-gif-26792484

[naive prairie]

Anbernic just started with the 557 overpriced, so they don't need to raise prices.

[kindred widget]

But what if Max Zhou wants an Ayaneo NEXT 2?

[devout plinth]

just to clarify this. Anbernic actually bought license for many of their arcade stuff in china, mostly SNK stuff, they're legal. Old systems that were not sold in china back in the olden days ware not registered in china, so free games and legal. Modern Switch stuff are registered in china, so anbernic doesn't have modern Nintendo IPs in their stuff. the licenses that anbernic has are china only so the ones sold outside china are actually count as pirated contents but could be seen as gray zone

[sour olive]

Proof?

[subtle shuttle]

Meanwhile I’ve already got both the Thor and the One35, both of which are actively better than any anbernic device I’ve used in a while.

[sour olive]

One35 seems like the perfect Wonderswan device

[blazing bough]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ANBERNIC/comments/1kl84qo/anbernic_systems_are_apparently_now_including/

my inkling is that Anbernic is Unico

[sour olive]

Cool

[devout plinth]

if people think nintendo is bad for sending out a lawsuit or two every few years, SNK gives out lawsuit s like candies in china

[charred marsh]

Nintendo literally enslaved someone.

[devout plinth]

if you're talking about gary bowser, he's fine, nitendo doesn't care about about the money, they already got what they wanted

[glacial gust]

So rg vita pro is currently the most powerful Linux based handheld rn?

[devout plinth]

I actually think bowser got it easy because he gave nintendo that win

nintendo now has a very strong legal precedent because of that win

[glacial gust]

So why did anbernic deleted their pro lineup vid from the YouTube?

[devout plinth]

some people suspect because of the pokemon footage

due to pokemon event recently, they do not want to draw attention from N

just 1 of the 4 unspoken rules if you watch moon channel

[blazing bough]

The Odin 2 line has Rocknix

[glacial gust]

That's custom firmware

[blazing bough]

if you're making that distinction then sure i suppose

[charred marsh]

He has to pay Nintendo 30% of his salary for the rest of his life.
I hope they go out of business and we never get another Mario or Zelda game.

[devout plinth]

you mispresented fact, the deal is he is to pay 20-30% of his direct income AFTER necessities like rent, utilities, medical and basic needs

[buoyant vale]

it's still linux

[glacial gust]

Can someone reshare the RG vita pro vid

[devout plinth]

nothing impressive in there, they might upload a new one tomorrow

[vivid jasper]

I feel like they teased this too early
Who is this even for?

[quaint mirage]

people that wanted a Powkiddy RGB10Max3Pro Successor

[devout plinth]

rk3576 is very popular with tinkerers

[mighty pumice]

Might be more of a side grade than successor

[lone imp]

more ram, more os options in the wild, more forums filled with community hacks for the boot config. it'll be fine

[hallow willow]

all depends on the price point

[lone imp]

the whole thing that made the OGU/10max3pro good is the amount you could fuck with it, and even if you were 100% sure you bricked it, you could still run the recovery kit on the emmc to get it back

You literally had to set the thing on fire to kill it, which many of us did. neither -had a touchscreen- though, which sucked

[sour olive]

So? It's still Linux.

[naive prairie]

There is a substantial number of people in this market who would rather play with a device than play games on a device. Think it's for them, really.

[sour olive]

It's for people that want to try get the power from a weak chipset

I think Odin 3 has a Rocknix Beta

So that's probably the most powerful Linux Handheld

[short goblet]

it sounds like the Konkr Pocket Fit will have Rocknix before the Odin 3

[thick orchid]

What's the performance like

[keen heath]

I've seen some benchmarks vs a t618. Seems to score higher in antutu but lower on geek bench? Not entirely sure what to expect tbh

[thick orchid]

with all the prices going up due to ram

im thinking maybe i just keep my 406h for another year

[keen heath]

I'm still rocking my 353M / RP5 combo. Just bummed I missed out on 12gb RP6

[lofty kestrel]

Armbian version pls

Drop in a terabyte stick and make it a microplex

[thick orchid]

Honestly all I want is a dedicated PSP device

And the best option I have right now is to repurpose my iplay mini turbo with X5 litr controller

To play psp

And it sucks. It's soooo big and bulky

4x gow is nice tho

[keen heath]

Have you looked into mangmi or trimui pro smart? I'm sure they're capable psp devices at a good size

[spring orchid]

mangmi air x is amazing for psp and the ergonomics are great the screen is also higher resolution than the trim ui smart pro

i have both and the air x is a great upgrade

[thick orchid]

ye everyone has been suggesting Mangmi to me

im just not sold on the screen being 4x

and for god of war i can only do 2x on the device

[keen heath]

If you want to do 4x and have a decent sized display, perhaps rp6/g2 is the way to go?

[thick orchid]

ye. my only issue with the retroid is the build. the all glass front to me is stupid ==" and i also have odin2 pro so its alittle unnessary having so much power

So really im suck between the Mangmi, RG505 or the Vita

[dry kelp]

Vita has a glass front as well

[keen heath]

Ah you have the odin2 pro but do not wish to use it for psp

Wouldn't the mangmi be too close to the 2pro size? Making it kinda pointless

I'm not sure how big o2pro is but I assume just a little larger than an rp5

Also the 505 doesn't have a FHD display for you to enjoy 4x psp. Same with the vita

[lofty kestrel]

phone + controller

[dry kelp]

For size reference

[thick orchid]

RG vita?

[dry kelp]

yeah

[thick orchid]

soz my comment was more along the lines of: i have a 4x screen but can only do 2x, so imo it would look muddy. The rg505 being 2x of PSP would not bother me because it would just be a perfect 2x

its not the fact that i want 4x

i just want my device to be able to take advantage of the screen

[thick orchid]

i have this weird fear that i will break my buttons when button mashing on the odin

so i dont want to play god of war on it

[thick orchid]

im currently tablet + controller

[keen heath]

Maybe the new anbernic rg vita could be a good option for you

[sour olive]

RG505 is better

Has an Extra GB of RAM and OLED

[tawny lynx]

Not better than the pro though

[sour olive]

The Pro is going to cost more though

[thick orchid]

im really looking at price to performance reallyu

but it is hard to beat mangmi for the price

altho i did hear the 3576 is like 50% slower than the 3588

so im picturing the 3576 being like........15%-20% better than the t618

[sour olive]

I guess Doggo can't rest for the time being

[thick orchid]

Doggo rested long enough when Dual Screen flip handhelds arrived

Doggo is now wanting to fetch PSP device

i mean

Woof

[sour olive]

Do you have a Thor?

[thick orchid]

and a RG DS

gave my sister the RG DS

[sour olive]

Why do you want a PSP device then?

The Thor is plenty powerful for it

[thick orchid]

same reason as why i dont play PSP on my odin2pro

i fear i would break my device from the way i button mash in tekken 6 and God of war

[blazing bough]

Different devices for different things

[sour olive]

But what if you end up breaking the RG Vita instead?

[thick orchid]

cheap enough where i dont care

assuming its a cheap device

[kindred widget]

He's obviously intending to use it as folks did with the PSP and the Vita

He's gonna watch porn on it

[sour olive]

Why not just buy a PSP at that point?

[thick orchid]

PSP not cheaper than Anbernic devices where i am

[sour olive]

Or a Vita

[thick orchid]

they still go for 200-300 NZD. which is like 120-180 usd

[thick orchid]

have 2

hated PSP on it

[sour olive]

Bro what

[thick orchid]

especially lack of a way to fast forward

it just looks muddy to me

[sour olive]

[thick orchid]

1x on a 2x screen

which is why im not convinced 2x on a 4x will look good

[sour olive]

You can play 5x on Odin 2 and Thor

[thick orchid]

This @sour olive

[sour olive]

How hard are you mashing that this realistically is an issue?

[thick orchid]

for the odin and thor that is

i have made my Square and X button on my OG psp unresponsive

i have swapped membranes

and switch new buttons

to get back like 80% responsiveness

not sure if i had a faulty mobo on the PSP or i broke it

[sour olive]

[thick orchid]

also the Square and X button shell has been like.......grinded down?

i have done similar thing to my sisters ds on her Dpad

which is partly the reason why i gave her my rg ds

[blazing bough]

you don't like how that looks?

i always stick to 1x psp

[thick orchid]

on og psp i dont mind

on vita 2x it looks off

like i see a 1x blown up (which is exactly what it is)

[blazing bough]

yes, that's what's good about it

[thick orchid]

i dont understand how its good..........?

[blazing bough]

that's how it's meant to look?

like i don't do higher resolution unless there is a high res texture pack

for every system

PS1 1x, N64 1x etc

just use a sharp bilinear interoplation shader if the screen isn't integer

[thick orchid]

ye ill try that

[sour olive]

Honestly seems like a waste when you already have devices that are plenty capable but you do you

[blazing bough]

on the rg vita pro (any 1080p device really) it will be integer since emulators usually cut off the 1 pixel on both top and btoom

[thick orchid]

as my Ex calls me: you are a moron

[sour olive]

I wouldn't go that far

[thick orchid]

especially considering how i answered one of her questions to me

[blazing bough]

nah i totally understand

[sour olive]

Your Ex Sounds like a jerk if she called you that

[thick orchid]

looking back i can see why she called me that

i wasnt the best partner

[sour olive]

Oh

[thick orchid]

but theres equally as many things she did to me that wasnt cool

relationships are a two way thing, so however way she reacted or behaved i had a part in it. and vice versa

i WILL say this tho. I do not forgive her for how she left me 😅 never will

[sour olive]

So RG Vita Max and Ultra when?

[thick orchid]

when will they just take the rp5s that are not sellable

slap an anbernic sticker over it

and call it RP Vita Max

[sour olive]

$350

[naive prairie]

Anbernoid.

[sour olive]

Get Hyped

[thick orchid]

you forgot the anbernic tax

so 400 in total

[naive prairie]

$350 will just be the RP6 price by the end of the year.

[tawny lynx]

The rp6 will be discontinued in 6 months, need the parts for the thors

[sour olive]

Your username always reminds me of this old meme
https://youtu.be/k8Jtm1eNpeU?feature=shared

[silver idol]

@vivid jasper and people that want A311D like power with better kernel support.

[silver idol]

Better Kernel support is good enough for me.

[sour olive]

The realization this came out 17 years ago

https://tenor.com/view/so-old-gif-27277116

[sour olive]

Why do only appear everytime someone is arguing about a device's power?

[silver idol]

Basically it's a T618 that can Dual Boot into Linux.

[silver idol]

The RG-VITA is better.

[silver idol]

But it doesn't Dual Boot. 😏

[sour olive]

Neither does the regular RG Vita

[silver idol]

@thick orchid It's good to to have different devices for different systems. It adds more versatility to your Retro gaming setup.

[silver idol]

But the Pro bro. 😎

[sour olive]

That just sounds like spending money for the sake of it

[silver idol]

Nah I just love Portmaster and my Trimui Smart Pro didn't cut it for me.

[sour olive]

What about the Smart Pro S?

[silver idol]

Also PSP sometimes too

[silver idol]

Too weak, also 1GB of RAM vs 4GB of RAM.

Good Firmware tho.

[sour olive]

It's not about the Power. It's good enough for me and that's all that matters.

[silver idol]

Yes

[sour olive]

1GB of RAM is perfectly fine

[silver idol]

I'm more about functionality.

[sour olive]

[silver idol]

1GB is perfectly fine for Emulation but some ports benefit from at least 2GB.

[sour olive]

So you're saying there's a valid reason for wanting more RAM and Power from a Handheld?

[silver idol]

Depends on what you want.

The RK3576 is interesting because you should be able to get up to very Light GameCube and PS2 Emulation.

Plus the Kernel Support means better Linux.

Also day one GammaOS will be a pretty big selling point for me.

[sour olive]

https://tenor.com/view/at-what-cost-what-for-why-sacrifice-give-up-gif-22861196

[silver idol]

I want to get back into porting games on Portmaster.

The Vita-like form factor will be great for Portmaster games.

The RG-VITA Pro is just a Handheld that suits my needs and interest.

So I want one.

[sour olive]

Well if you have a device with Rocknix Support, you can install that and get Portmaster support as well

[silver idol]

True however when submitting ports it helps to have multiple devices with different Chipsets for testing.

Besides the games I port are obscure and most people don't know about them and have them in their library of games.

[sour olive]

True but there's already people that do that

[sour olive]

Aw yeah, Ronaldino Soccer 64

[silver idol]

I'm one of them.
https://portmaster.games/profile.html?porter=Pridetoons

There's even ports I have running that aren't served on Portmaster.

[spring orchid]

vita psp emulation looks blurry because of the scaling filter it uses

2x res psp on the mangmi air x screen looks very nice

[lone imp]

between t618 and g99

i personally have had an rg505, rp3+, and x28, and i prefer the x28 for comfort reasons. sold the other two

[worn topaz]

you can disable bilinear for psp games on a real vita and get proper integer scaling

but itll be psp res obvs

[spring orchid]

oh cool

[sour olive]

Well you have a specific reason for getting devices

The same can't be said for most people

[spring orchid]

not the best photo but here's monster hunter portable 3rd at 2x resolution on the air x @thick orchid

very nice looking imo

my camera makes the screen look more washed out than it is to my eyes fwiw

the blur is from my camera on the screen it's nice and sharp

[blazing bough]

Yep that's what I do

[blazing bough]

This is a real vita with integer

[spring orchid]

ohhh 1x PSP is rough lol

[blazing bough]

i enjoy it a lot lol

i use 1x on my Odin 2 Mini too

[silver idol]

I completely understand this, that's why I'm not recommending Handhelds to people based on my personal tastes.

[floral vessel]

still enjoying my t618 "premium" on rg405m

[hallow willow]

Yeah i dont mind the t618 devices tbh for what I've been using them for

[atomic flare]

They can’t know that. It’s blind hope at this point? Right?

[hallow willow]

I won't be surprised if it's longer

[atomic flare]

Could be much longer. Could be the new normal.

Like a never ending pandemic

[hallow willow]

That too

[atomic flare]

Soon our AI overlords will suck up all the hardware and we will be enslaved.

[lofty kestrel]

so what games you guys plan on playin on this thing

there's a sick romhack of wipeout that combines pulse and pure

[teal sonnet]

Soon people will be breaking into data centers to steal RAM instead of robbing banks for money

[thick orchid]

yeap

and yet we sit here and pray

[thick orchid]

then name on the screen looks pretty sharp

[thick orchid]

i only need 3 really:
N3DS XL
PSP/GBA Device (GBA upscaled on 16:9 is awesome af)
4:3 device that does PS2 ish

honestly i dunno where does the odin2 and Thor sit

i should rid of them

[restive herald]

Yes and give them to me

[fossil rose]

God a link for this? I had no idea, and I'm a huge WipEout fan!

I'll put it on the RG Vita and give it a whirl

[lofty kestrel]

https://youtu.be/ZwC4UyRQadY?si=CVO0biBqa0ASoEfW

Look for it on the usual sites

[lone imp]

oh wow. i'm still using janky-ass fx350. same romhack, but -only- 48 working tracks

[untold hazel]

[cunning bane]

https://youtu.be/Rtchs7iCMv4?si=nBTPs9czXtrXycMP

and so we're back to our regularly scheduled "discussion"

[heavy blaze]

Will it have 2 sd card slots