ANBERNIC RG Vita, RG Vita Pro

[lusty adder]

No 🧢 fam

[hardy parcel]

Unc wildin

[lusty adder]

We need to see if the Vita is sigma or has zero aura

[kindred widget]

If the chipset can't mog the opps its aura is in the negatives

[wicked idol]

It was fairly decent, a big improvement over my Phillips go gear I used until that point. Though mines battery isn’t the best today so it sits on my desk as a time waster while I afk for a bit in Minecraft or wait for files to transfer across drives.
But I super want this now legit as a music player for the most part.

[lilac bramble]

yall are too negative, we still dont have any official specs for this

[kindred widget]

Brother from what we do have it isn't pretty

[sour olive]

Anbernic hasn't given us a reason to believe otherwise and Joey is a trustworthy enough source to believe

[undone hemlock]

Gamma is a day one release, Knulli said it’ll work with it too. So it’ll be chips that are easy enough to port both Linux and android on it

[tawny lynx]

A133p

[sour olive]

Gamma 6769

Get Hyped

[ember root]

visually this is basically the same as an RG40XX-H. Not exactly the same, but close enough. Not very inspiring.

The original PSP looked really cool. If they made a handheld that looked almost exactly like that, I would buy it, even if the screen wasn't the biggest and even if had only the left slider and no right stick. Because it has character.

I showed this RG Vita to my wife and she was like, "you already have that". I have the 40xx-h/

[lilac bramble]

if you can ignore that they dont look the same at all, you can say that about any of these handhelds

[ember root]

the rg vita is slightly longer with slightly different triggers and menu button placement. Not very interesting. the Odin 2 mini looks more interesting.

I dunno. It lacks personality and doesn't even make up for it by coming in a variety of fun colors.

This, on the other hand, is beautiful! swoon

[somber belfry]

Joey allegedly having insider info on the RG Vita and basically saying it'll be another RG DS situation

Anbernic really has a lot of hits and misses with Android handhelds

[quick cloak]

Like how he said he has secret info but he leaked it on his discord and everyone knows now anyway

[wicked idol]

Besides, I dont go to Joey for breaking news and insider info. I watch a Joey video when I am about to make a poor financial decison and need to watch someone crap all over a device and say I dont need it forty times.

[frail wadi]

yeah, we've known this for a few days now, it's going to be an underwhelming device with underwhelming chips

[quick cloak]

RG Vita has nowhere to go. Vita emulation? Basically exact same as RG Arc. Such a shame. Anbernic likes nostalgia baiting and underdelivering

[wicked idol]

That being said I am loving my RGDS and have been playing tons of DS on it.
Different strokes for different folks I guess.

[sour olive]

Only because GammaOS made it good

[quick cloak]

Did it have to be saved by Gamma OS

Lol

[wicked idol]

I mean I have yet to install anything but stock and am having no problems. Games launch, and they look fine. If they have issues running I lower the upscale to 1:1

[sour olive]

The device is unusable without it

[wicked idol]

I beg to differ and think saying so is being hilariously overdramatic.
Its janky, but if you just want to play games and are not concerned about multi tasking, crazy shaders, etcetera then its fine.

[sour olive]

You can't call something usable if it has Jank to begin with

[wicked idol]

My brother in christ! This is a retro handhelds discord. The entire hobby is filled with janky emulators, janky front ends, janky rom formats, janky control setups, janky devices, janky youtube tutorials, everything has jank. Its just that a majority of people can deal with the jank and just play games while others have to sit around and complain that things are not perfect and work flawlessly everytime.
And then there is Ayaneo.

[sour olive]

40hz bug says hi

[little crescent]

and touch delay and performance plablems and many things that linux or gammaos fix

[wicked idol]

All most people care about is that it plays DS, the majority dont notice the minutiae that leads to freakouts in this discord.

[kindred widget]

Yea idk about that last bit

On the Anbernic server when they showed the chip for the RG DS everyone was up in arms

Without GammaOS saving Anbernic's bacon the RG DS would've stayed mediocre

An actual DS and R4 Card could treat you better than that thing.

[raw ice]

The official anbernic rom has fixed this too fwiw

I don’t think anyone but reviewers and devs ever experienced that bug.

[sour olive]

It did but they said they did no updates to their system and some of they don't come loaded with the newer firmware

[fossil rose]

Do you own the RG DS?

[sour olive]

I did

I sold it because I hated it

Did recently buy one again now that GammaOS is out

For example there's an issue where you can't play Mario Kart DS with High 3D Resolution because it glitches out the audio

https://www.reddit.com/r/ANBERNIC/s/RS2HOwMXGQ

[devout canopy]

yeah this thing is cooked

[kindred widget]

Fried even

[raven sierra]

Is it oled?

[sour olive]

Doesn't look like it

[short goblet]

hope this device follows RG DS -

also selling 80k units

[kindred widget]

Is that good as far as retro handhelds go?

[short goblet]

max posted this figure

[karmic obsidian]

Has there been a price release?

[short goblet]

just a teaser of the device so far

and several custom firmware teases

[karmic obsidian]

Nice

[sacred narwhal]

Its been deleted. Somebody got scared lol

[blissful parcel]

Pretty fun playing with the xreal glasses on the pro though

[frail wadi]

why? don't we have enough budget devices like these?

[undone hemlock]

It’s got a superior chip to the RGDS at least

But it probably won’t be that much better

[frail wadi]

yes, but so do the TrimUI Smart Pro and the Mangmi Air X

[lusty adder]

And the Kinhank also

[tawny lynx]

Ngl though the mangmi is the only one out of those I would actually consider

[acoustic bobcat]

Who is kinkhank

[short goblet]

they sell motion control tv boxes

[naive prairie]

I think Kinhank mainly sell hard drives filled with, er, .... things .... these days.

[acoustic bobcat]

I don't see the link

[kindred widget]

Porn

The answer is porn

Thats what they sell

[hushed karma]

Will it be able to play vita games well? If not then there is no point in having it.

[kindred widget]

I am totally not spread misinformation btw. I am very informed on Kinhank and totally didn't find out they existed

[kindred widget]

No

But actually yes

Just barely actually

[naive prairie]

Just look up Kinhank on AliExpress.

[acoustic bobcat]

Lmfao

[kindred widget]

Lemme take a look

[tawny lynx]

Are we talking about the same kinhank

[kindred widget]

Yea those are definitely products

[acoustic bobcat]

I misspelled it and forever ruined my recommended page

[lusty adder]

Kinhank check it on YT

https://youtu.be/0hefu3Hkcwk?si=B5vtIGjZmvCFZEd5

[sour olive]

I planned for that.

[kindred widget]

It looks so good but its powered by hopes and dreams

[naive prairie]

I dunno ... they gave it a glass front but ugly-ass cheap-looking buttons.

[sacred narwhal]

Tried to find that reddit user. Looks like his account is gone too

[kindred widget]

The Anbernic ninjas got him 💔

He's in Zhou's dungeon now

[acoustic bobcat]

🥷

🖥️ 🧍‍♂️ ➡️ 🥷 🥷 🔪 ➡️ 💀

[kindred widget]

Yea

[acoustic bobcat]

-1 Knulli dev, sad life

[sour olive]

Balls Anbernic works fast

[kindred widget]

I deny the allegations

[sacred narwhal]

Yup probably a knulli dev got a proto type for developing Knulli. I can't think of any other reason why they would have knulli installed on a device that isnt out yet

[kindred widget]

I did NOT tip off Mr. Zhou to the leak

[acoustic bobcat]

Those 2 packs of sweets prove otherwise

[kindred widget]

Shhhh

[sacred narwhal]

So confirm H700?

[kindred widget]

Shut the fuck up man I have an image to uphold

[undone hemlock]

No it’s a better chip

Better than the RGDS chip too

[tawny lynx]

New video tomorrow 🔮

[sacred narwhal]

Whats your reasoning for that?

[acoustic bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-james-doakes-surprise-mf-can't-prove-it-gif-7408854170742055240

[tawny lynx]

Joey dropped a cryptic tweet indicating that it might be an rk3576

[sour olive]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SBCGaming/s/0RtlnjE1cz

[sacred narwhal]

HIs accounts been deleted LOL

[tawny lynx]

Damn they got him

[acoustic bobcat]

Balls ninjanbernic did it but I can't prove it yet

[tawny lynx]

Actually nvm it's not showing deleted for me

[sacred narwhal]

Yea all his comments and post has been removed

[sour olive]

Are you sure?

[sacred narwhal]

But its wild that he even tried to leak

[sour olive]

I can still access them through the app

[tawny lynx]

Same

[sacred narwhal]

You right. I'm viewing via classic reddit

But when I switch to modern I can see

[kindred widget]

The Anberninjas are scary

[sour olive]

Can someone leak the specs?

[acoustic bobcat]

They never sleep

[kindred widget]

Joey already did

[acoustic bobcat]

I can

https://tenor.com/view/rhino-shit-rbxzoo-adurite-pooing-gif-26514280

The specs are being leaked

[tawny lynx]

Better than rk3326, worse than 8 elite

[sour olive]

https://tenor.com/view/one-big-pile-gif-18439379

[acoustic bobcat]

Saved this one in case someone shows off their anbernic collection

[high junco]

How do I unsee this

[acoustic bobcat]

I had the same reaction when I saw this device

Relatable

[high junco]

Lmao

[sly rock]

Will this be smaller than the AYN ODIN 2 mini?

[undone hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/spoilers-pandorica-river-song-doctor-who-gif-18293417

[topaz cave]

honestly, it looks really good for a budget device. And if the Pro is going to be similar to the mangmi air x then both versions should be pretty affordable

[sour olive]

Not really a pro then

More like a Lite

[raw ice]

people loved the vita for ps1 emulation, psp games, gba emulation, and the two good vita games.

This will play everything but those last two games

and those two games run like dog on anything but a gaming pc

[tawny lynx]

What are the two good vita games?

[raw ice]

I take it back, I've got persona 4 golden and nothing else

[tawny lynx]

What about monster hunter frontier z

[raw ice]

does anyone think that's the best monster hunter?

[tawny lynx]

No

[raw ice]

so why fight with vita3k for it

p4g is on pc too lol

[tawny lynx]

Oh well I wasn't really talking about emulating it, at least not through vita3k

Also got a community pc port

Vita3k is kind of a pita

[raw ice]

I'm curious how many people mad this 'won't play vita' actually use vita3k on android currently

[tawny lynx]

Once I found out you need a work.bin file for every dlc I'm out tbh

[raw ice]

if they did I think they'd realize it does not matter if this thing can use it or not

I'm just mad they did RG vita and made it look like a vita rather than calling it RG PSP and making it look like a psp

I want a linux psp + portmaster handheld because those are the only two legitimate uses for a 16:9 retro handheld outside of streaming, switch kiddies, or using gamehub to make the world's worst steam deck

[tawny lynx]

If this is around $100 I'm okay with it tbh. Could be an actually good successor to the trimui smart pro

[raw ice]

yeah the trimui smart pro failed by being not quite good enough for psp and not having 32 bit libraries for portmaster

[little crescent]

stop nagging everybody is the price is right the console looks cool. what do you want anbernic making a odin mini? in this market when chips cost a arm and a leg, do think that a company knows as selling devices that are just in the rigth price gonna destroys his how form of making products because the 5% of his customer that cry about performance and no only that never is fine with anything if is a rk low chip o muuu is expensive if is a d8300 muuhh is expensive, etc.... if the pvita run psp well great and psvita pro run some of the psvita games at good price is great if you dont like dont buy, because most the people now nagging gonna buy it for his collections.... this rg ds all over again

[topaz cave]

this is a really good point

[raw ice]

meanwhile portmaster on the pro (since the base doesn't appear to support linux) will let you play dungeon crawl stone soup on a modern vita

that seems pretty great to me

[topaz cave]

Obv Anbernic in their infinite wisdom fucks up with how they market it and people will never stop talking about how the RG Vita failed because it won't run Vita

despite no one actually wanted to play those

[raw ice]

I mean they might still mess it up, the big question marks for me are price and screen

but I'm hoping this fills the niche of the rgb10max3pro

[naive prairie]

"Won't play Vita" is simply a proxy for "not powerful enough to do what I want to do with it". Kinda like with the RGDS.

[topaz cave]

yeah but at some point you're trying to have your cake and eat it too

like if it's cheap enough then you can't really pretend like you are entitled to the same performance of a Retroid or AYN

[naive prairie]

Some people don't want a cheap Vita lookalike, they want a good Vita lookalike. Probably people that missed out on the Odin 2 Mini for whatever reason.

[topaz cave]

it truly is a sad day when the form factor you want is only available in a powkiddy

[topaz cave]

Isn't the RP5 and 6 close enough for that?

[little crescent]

They missed it, because was expensive

If the price / quality is good

[naive prairie]

(That said, expecting a good powerful handheld from Anbernic is kind of a fool's errand)

[little crescent]

Performance comes second and even more in this economy.

[topaz cave]

Anbernic can make good devices for the price. I think the issue is people expect the cheap anbernic alternative to hold up to the expensive guys

[little crescent]

And I would say ps Vita emulation is still cursed with bugs that don't even are because the device is powerful enough

[topaz cave]

that's crazy though... why wouldn't the base model run linux, that's disappointing if true

would be the cheap portmaster device the Trimui Smart Pro failed to be

[naive prairie]

To be fair, Anbernic hasn't exactly announced that this is a cheap device yet. It doesn't quite look the part with the glass front. Joey, Gamma, and the Knulli folks announced that this was a cheap device. 🙃

[raw ice]

because the cheaper sku is running a unisoc that doesn't support linux

[naive prairie]

Because it's a T618 which doesn't support Linux.

[raw ice]

should be the cheapest actually good psp handheld though

[topaz cave]

huh, really? that's even more confusing to me... if the base is a t618 then it doesn't sound like either would be cheap

[merry idol]

Neither @blissful parcel or us have said anything about price.

[naive prairie]

It's a 2019/early 2020 SOC. It's cheap NOW.

[naive prairie]

Hinting what the SOC is tells us whether this is a cheap or expensive device.

[merry idol]

The only hint provided is that it’s more powerful than the DS. Don’t read too much into our comments

[pastel compass]

Joey says this won’t run all Vita titles given the CPUs power from what he was informed of.

[topaz cave]

I don't think any device runs all Vita games

Idk what to think now. Joey said the Pro is similar in performance to the Mangmi Air X and Trimui Smart Pro S. So in theory it should be like around $100

and that's the pro, so the base model should be significantly cheaper? Unless Anbernic just went and did two variants that are only like $10 apart

[shell sequoia]

The pro is octa core with 4x A72s + 4x A53s right? In terms of single core perf it should be worse than base model since it will have 2x A75 + 6x A55

[topaz cave]

Bro wth is anbernic doing

[shell sequoia]

Yeah it's kind of wild

[tawny lynx]

Tbf there was this guy

Depends on their definition of cheap though ig

[topaz cave]

that contradicts what joey said, then. t820 should be way better than the mangmi and trimui

veeeery confusing

unless he meant the base model?

[quick cloak]

T820

[mighty pumice]

The chat/screenshot already said no one guess right, so strike off t820, rk3568 and d8300

[topaz cave]

yeah but then what is referring to when he said "so what, the price is cheap"

I assume he's talking about not having fans?

[naive prairie]

It's not a T820, RK3568, or D8300. And it doesn't have a fan. (Just cooling vents, like the RP3+)

[topaz cave]

but apparently it can play at least some ps vita? according to the second to last msg?

[naive prairie]

A T618 can play Vita.

[lusty adder]

Take that with a grain of salt , they are very generous with the word "playable".

[topaz cave]

good point

[naive prairie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI47Bq1wgPA

[topaz cave]

From Joey's bluesky:

Just watching everyone get excited for the new Anbernic RG Vita and Vita Pro.

Looking forward to the crash out when you find out which two processors they're using for them.

Hint: NOPE

the next tweet: "My favorite date is June 18th, 1976." prob a hint?

[naive prairie]

I miss my old RG505. Victim to Anbernic's questionable quality control ...

[topaz cave]

WAIT june = 6/18

bruh

and what would 1976 be?

[naive prairie]

https://www.rock-chips.com/uploads/pdf/2024.3.18/192/RK3576 Brief Datasheet V1.2-20240311.pdf

[kindred widget]

Soul Sacrifice Delta

[topaz cave]

Well that's it
I guess you already knew that

[shell sequoia]

rk3576

oop, they already got it

[lusty adder]

Shantae but it was ported to the Swtich and is better to emulate it on Eden or Sudachi

[topaz cave]

Should I leak those in the sub

I'll just do it
Anbernic ninjas it's not my fault I'm just passing it along

[quick cloak]

Who's gonna link the RK3576 router video?

[kindred widget]

Half Genie Hero?

[shell sequoia]

yup

latest Vita3k doesn't play Shantae HGH's background music on PC or android

Otherwise it runs fine

[kindred widget]

I think it's on Wii U as well

[little crescent]

That is for the pro?

[topaz cave]

yes

[little crescent]

And the psvita not pro is same as rgds?

If the price is right and is like magmy air or close is not bad

Even better rk have Linux compatibility

[topaz cave]

I'd like it if both were under $100 but who knows

[little crescent]

To under 100 is better than magmy air

[topaz cave]

yeah but MagicX is under, right? Or is about to be with the new ones

[lusty adder]

Yes , you can actually play all the heavier Shantae Games on Sudachi with the T820 also

[topaz cave]

good point though, they might use the fact that both the Mangmi and AYNEO are slightly over $100 with shipping to do the same

[fossil rose]

A few of us have been told. But the last thing I'll do is jeopardize a relationship with a company, or the trust with which that info was given

[little crescent]

Man if the price is 100+ship this is good and the other maybe 60+ship with rgds soc

[teal sonnet]

They should of just named it the RG PSP

[kindred widget]

I get that

But as you know

[little crescent]

Leaking because consumers are anxious is so stupid

[kindred widget]

Its always the monkeypaw with Anbernic

Single stick RGPSP

[topaz cave]

I mean just scroll up half a dozen comments

[high junco]

The psp had a single stick too, didn't it?

[kindred widget]

Yep

[little crescent]

Yeah maybe but that exist let other company do it anbernic just say this model is cool

Is just a name

[teal sonnet]

Sometimes names come with expectations

When you don't live up to the name , trouble follows

[topaz cave]

it's for sure a stupid name. we know it can't really be accurate but most people won't

[sour olive]

Had it been called RG PSP, Anbernic would a find a way to make sure PSP games barely run on it

[lusty adder]

I mean , it's not a given we're gonna have the full catalogue at 2× on this one either lol

That rule now is simple , since the DS any of their devices that has the name of the handheld they're copying will suck , the only 'good' ones will have the 77 number at the end 😆

[lone imp]

based rk3576 device

[kindred widget]

Just one 7

[topaz cave]

RG DS doesn't suck, it just didn't live up to the 3DS expectations Anbernic set

[kindred widget]

The first two digits of Anbernic naming is the screen size iirc

[lone imp]

makes me think that the rgVIta Pro will be rk3588

[topaz cave]

nope

[lusty adder]

I wasn't expecting it to run 3DS , it's pretty clear that this system would be a bonus. The handheld failed in other areas

[tawny lynx]

It's still kind of mid even then tbh

[teal sonnet]

Doesn't that run hot and need a fan ?

[lusty adder]

Yeah but it's winter so it's a bonus

[topaz cave]

I don't think it failed at all. It's got awkward battery handling but it runs all DS games, most upscaled

that's it

it's actually pretty great as a DS machine

[lone imp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wASukP3uvFM
t618 vs. rk3566 vita emulation

[lone imp]

i remember playing with another user's rgDS. it earned my 'fuck this device' rating when so much as sniffing at the back button broke all ds games

[topaz cave]

wdym? back button opens up the menu

[sour olive]

In Joey's news video, he said that have already guessed correct what the chip is

So yeah

[lusty adder]

Speaking of Winter centric devices

[sour olive]

RK3576 confirmed

[topaz cave]

no, RK3576

[sour olive]

I don't know what you're talking about

[tawny lynx]

Feel bad for this guy, hope Ayn makes it good

[lusty adder]

This is terrible tbh

[topaz cave]

Lipo battery fires are so scary

[sour olive]

Also Joey doesn't like Chrono Trigger so I lost all respect for them

[lone imp]

Back closes the top screen and you have to close drastic entirely and restart it to get it back

[topaz cave]

No, but I know what you did wrong. You touched the top screen before pressing back, so it changed focus to the top.

It pressed back in the top screen, Drastic runs on the bottom screen

[lone imp]

doesn't matter now, because it got returned.

[topaz cave]

well, sucks for the owner because there was nothing wrong with it

[lone imp]

nothing wrong with it. haha... okay dude

[topaz cave]

brother, you changed focus away from the app

it's an Android quirk

same as with the Thor.

[lone imp]

eh, at this point enough people have been told the dual screen implementation in stock is trash and to just use gamma that it's not worth going back on that.

[topaz cave]

...ok? but the same will still happen on gamma if you switch focus away from the app

[lone imp]

not in single screen mode

[topaz cave]

same with the thor

[lone imp]

gamma fixes that annoyance pretty cleanly

[topaz cave]

not in single screen mode, but everywhere else. switch focus - back button is assigned to that

[topaz cave]

it doesn't... back still corresponds to the app in focus, as it's designed to be

just like alt+f4 will affect the window you have in focus on your pc

[lone imp]

put some proof out there. you're full of shit man

[topaz cave]

huh? proof of what?

[lone imp]

oi vay. nevermind

[sour olive]

Praise Gamma

[tame vector]

persona 4 golden and mvc3

thats it

[topaz cave]

there is a danganronpa game too, no? or are they all PSP?

[quick cloak]

How can you not like Chrono Trigger? Because it's not Pokemon?

[sour olive]

Ask Joey

He also said he's never beaten Final Fantasy 6

So I think he just doesn't like JRPGs

[wicked idol]

Seems like it would be a short list if you were making a, “things Joey likes” list. Pokémon and the portal are all that come to mind.

[sly rock]

also he finds alot of handhelds uncomfortable to hold and requires a grip on all handhelds

[sour olive]

Odin 2 Portal is pretty uncomfortable without a Grip

[sly rock]

Ohh fair which is suprising considering it's big I expect it to have big bumps

[sacred narwhal]

He likes Expedition 33. Sort of counts

I've never beaten alot of the old JPGs either. I think they were good for their time. But alot of the modern games are just better because they build off of the previous RPG systems.

[astral burrow]

Who is gone?

[short goblet]

dunno, apparently someone reposted an image of a dev Vita and then deleted their own account

[astral burrow]

https://www.reddit.com/user/amilt0n/

[short goblet]

I’ve no idea what happened

[devout plinth]

old reddit does weird stuff. It's expected as it's really old at this point

[tame vector]

the vita looks good but the performance i already expect it to have a mid processor that cant run vita

[terse parrot]

We've seen a (now deleted) video of Vita3K launching on the Pro model, but not any games

[quick cloak]

Yup def can launch Vita3K

That we know

[devout plinth]

nothing can run vita well at this point

[prisma niche]

Vita emulation isn't quite mature yet

[blissful parcel]

I don't imagine many people can name more than a handful of vita games they'd like to play tbh

I really do think that if the price is right, this will be a good portmaster machine

[devout plinth]

most stuff from vita can be played on something else

[blissful parcel]

I have a first gen vita, I don't really have nostalgia for it. But used it heavily for homebrew and emulation

[quick cloak]

Should be RG Porta

[blissful parcel]

I wonder if I can get anbernic to build a RG Gamma

Wonder what that would look like...

[sleek widget]

it would just be.. another one

[devout plinth]

according to their alibaba listing. They also do white label products

[kindred widget]

Bulbous

Curvy

Plump

Which would make for great ergonomics

[quick cloak]

No pocket test for RG Gamma

[raven sierra]

Introducing RG Gamma

[spring island]

This look awesome

Maybe remove the dpad and change the stick to the Neo geo cd one

Someone please give me a neogeocd pad and 6 buttons

[sour olive]

Expedition 33 is Baby's First "JRPG"

[quick cloak]

I like The Stick of Truth personally

[hallow willow]

That was def an example of a game that was better than it had any right to be 😄 the sequels not as much

[whole ice]

Anbernic dumb as shit. Yeah

[sour olive]

I can name 25

The Vita has lots of great games

[whole ice]

Regardless dumbest name pickers on earth

It's like they want to lose money

[kindred widget]

Dawg out of all companies I think Anbernic is the one that makes the most bank

[untold hazel]

I can tell you this: 💩

[sour olive]

Says Balls Anbernic

[untold hazel]

Easiest skip ever!!!

[wicked idol]

I will never cease to be amused by people crapping over something they know nothing about, how bad a purchase it will be, but will 100% buy and keep crapping over it as if they were betrayed personally.
Gets even funnier knowing most people who buy it won’t care and will have a good time with it.

[sour olive]

God forbid people have standards

[undone hemlock]

If you don’t like it, don’t buy it

[whole ice]

They made bank with xx. Their margins have to be so razor thin, and some of their mid and premium devices have had pretty like warm reception.

[undone hemlock]

They sold 80k units of the severely underpowered RGDS

[whole ice]

Like naming it rg ds and then have it be ass at DS did them no favors

[undone hemlock]

They know what they’re doing

People will buy Anbernic devices regardless of the nitpickers

[whole ice]

To go from that to rg vita. And then have it be ass at vita is just manifesting fool me twice in real time

[undone hemlock]

You have to temper your expectations with Anbernic

[whole ice]

Lotta dumb people out there true

I mean maybe it'll be dirt cheap. That'll be something at least

[wicked idol]

Eh, not that bothered that this won’t play vita well considering nothing plays vita well outside of an og vita.
Also enjoy everyone saying the rgds plays ds bad when I have one and it plays ds fine

It’s like people forget all these companies are literally just here to prey on nostalgia and pump out cheap handhelds

[whole ice]

I do too and that's not true. Gamma does help tho

[undone hemlock]

Now with that said, they did get a lot of good grace with the 476H. It still needs to be tempered expectations
Has issues with some DS games. Your experience isn’t the gold standard

[sour olive]

You just have low standards

[undone hemlock]

I too have the RGDS

[sour olive]

Same with Rad

[undone hemlock]

No, I bought it for some game testing. I do not plan on keeping it

[whole ice]

If you're targeting a specific handheld, you need to overshoot, and then control your claims. They blast the claims and then barely crawl across the finish line in 4th place

[undone hemlock]

I can’t get passed the screen resolution

The 4.7” screen has spoiled the fuck out of me

[wicked idol]

I just enjoy playing games, unlike the other half of this weird niche who just want to complain and freak out when people say something is fine for what it is.

[whole ice]

It's def one of the best things they've put out since xxageddon

[undone hemlock]

It’ll play 99% of the library just fine but there are some DS games that will tax the fuck out of the system

It should have been a Linux handheld

Or put specs that’ll let it actually yse melonDS

[whole ice]

A lot of effort went into getting it even there tho

[undone hemlock]

Drastic is ass

Warning: flashing

This is what happens if you fast forward through cutscenes

[whole ice]

Everyone enjoys playing games. Some of us just have a standard of some kind 😆

[undone hemlock]

This happens in Melon DS

Needs to be on the open GL driver

Which you cannot change on drastic

[topaz cave]

It plays all DS games, 90% of them upscaled

[sour olive]

RG DS can't even play Mario Kart well without Audio Glitches

[topaz cave]

Whatever you want to add on top of that is your discretion. Play on a pc.

[undone hemlock]

Plays is a strong word. Golden Sun has severe frame drops.

[topaz cave]

If upscaled

[undone hemlock]

No

[whole ice]

It's fucking 2026. It should play everything upscaled anyway 😆

Y'all defending this ancient ass trash. Smh

[topaz cave]

Performance isn’t magic, you need to pay for it

[undone hemlock]

It is what it is

[whole ice]

And people would have. Which is why it's dumb

[undone hemlock]

If you don’t like it don’t buy it

[whole ice]

Classic

[topaz cave]

You can’t have your cake and eat it too. It’s a budget device.

No shit a budget device isn’t perfect

[sour olive]

I feel like you're trying to justify shit

It's kinda sad

[whole ice]

And that's fine. Then call it the Anbernic xxDS and then don't make foolish claims

That's all I'm saying

[undone hemlock]

I’m not justifying shit

[sour olive]

You definitely are

[topaz cave]

what? What’s the XX got to do with it

[sour olive]

"It is what it is"

[topaz cave]

People don’t know what it means

[sour olive]

You shouldn't be content with games barely working

That should be the bare minimum

[whole ice]

I do. But like. Add some identifier that your overselling ass if that's a goal

[undone hemlock]

Anbernic is known for cutting corners you have to temper your expectations with them.

[topaz cave]

Wanting bells and whistles isn’t “barely running”

[undone hemlock]

If you want decent hardware then buy something else

Vote with your damn wallet

[topaz cave]

It literally plays all DS games.

[sour olive]

Anbernic can make great hardware as well

[whole ice]

Or just critique them as they deserve? All I'm doing

[undone hemlock]

Plays is a strong word here

[sour olive]

If people don't speak up, they'll keep trying to get away with it

[whole ice]

But he'll keep saying it 😆

[topaz cave]

Not at all. It’s arbitrary standards you’re adding on top. “Uh plays is only if you can upscale it 3x with melonds”

[undone hemlock]

There are issues with heavier DS titles

[whole ice]

Y'all don't have to ride or die on this. It's pretty commonly accepted

[undone hemlock]

Even at native resolution

[topaz cave]

That’s now what Russ showed on his review

[whole ice]

Could have just been like "true, they're dumb" and life would have continued on. Heh

[topaz cave]

He showed even demanding games running with upscaling, only golden sun needed to be native res

The issue with this overblown bs is that it misleads people into having to spend way more than they have to, in a time where we can’t be wasting money

You don’t gain anything from lying.

[undone hemlock]

Is Anbernic better than the rest of the “budget” retro handhelds? Yes “. Are they free from doing jank shit? Absolutely not

[devout canopy]

A DS and a flash card is literally 1/4 of the price of a RG DS tho

[undone hemlock]

Russ only showed just the first part of the prologue chapter.

[topaz cave]

And won’t have ANY upscaling, unlike the RG DS. According to your standards, the DS doesn’t play DS

I love the double standard. RG DS can’t do 4x upscaling on melonds so “it doesn’t play DS” but running it all without save states, any upscaling at all, on decade+ old used hardware with yellowing screens, that’s the experience

[sour olive]

Potato Tablets can upscale DS games

RGDS not being able to for all games is pathetic

[topaz cave]

DS can’t upscale DS. 3DS can’t upscale DS. Pathetic

[devout canopy]

RG DS is just a subpar product, we all expected something decent, the design was good, obviously integer scaling was something we all wished for but at the very least their 720p screen would have been good enough... but no, shitty panels, a SoC that barely can run Drastic and software issues Gamma had to fix... for 120€

[sour olive]

Now you're just moving the goalpost.

[undone hemlock]

Again you have to temper your expectations with Anbernic.

[topaz cave]

Really? Not literally your last comment about having to upscale DS or it doesn’t play DS?

[sour olive]

No we don't

[undone hemlock]

Then stop buying them

Buy someone else

[sour olive]

We shouldn't have to be content with mediocrity

Regardless of company

[topaz cave]

If it had 720p, then it’d have been a shitty product because it needed x other thing

[sour olive]

Where's the other $100 Dual Screen Android Handheld?

[topaz cave]

“My budget device doesn’t have all the features I want it too”

[sour olive]

I'm waiting?

Because it doesn't exist

[topaz cave]

Then original hardware is by far the biggest mediocrity. By that logic

[stray saffron]

The thing with emulation is that there's always gonna be outlier games that are crazy difficult to run or have emulator compatibility issues and require way more power than would typically be needed to emulate that console. Like, "It plays all PS2 games (except Dirge of Cerberus)" or "It plays all PSP games (except Killzone)" and so on. I would not be the least bit surprised if there were a few outlier DS games that the RG DS can't run full speed, even though it plays the vast majority of them perfectly fine.

[sour olive]

Original Screens have gone bad due to age

Trying to find them without Yellowed Screens is a pain in the ass

[whole ice]

I just find the argument it had to be this budget to make it to market as a viable one. Considering Thor is on like rnd 4 of being pumped out the door. Add $20 and the DS could have been a much better device

[undone hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/office-michael-scott-thank-you-gif-5278681

[glacial gust]

What's the full spec?

[whole ice]

Have a feeling this is gonna be the same way

[glacial gust]

I'm assuming they reusing the rg556 screen

[topaz cave]

People wanting to have their cake and eat it too. It has to be the only budget DS, but it needs 720p, melonds with upscaling (nvm that even an Odin 2 can struggle with melonds)

[undone hemlock]

Of the vita? Not released yet

[glacial gust]

Would be crazy to have a vita device but not an oled

[whole ice]

Well get ready

All these people are gonna tell you why it's somehow not dumb

[topaz cave]

Is the Thor 120 bucks? I don’t think so

[undone hemlock]

Anbernic does not have a great track record with OLED

[glacial gust]

Idk what's the point
The vita emulator sucks

[topaz cave]

Definitely won’t be

[sour olive]

God forbid people want to play the games that do work

[devout canopy]

the biggest issue is finding a mid range SoC that supports dual screens... so in a sense we can see why Anbernic did it the way they did, but with the whole "guess how powerful it is" bullshit they pushed expectations... and the way they showed GBA games on the showcase was literally how they would scale on a panel that integer scales DS... so in a sense they did most of it to themselves

[topaz cave]

It isn’t, it’s a budget device. Unlike what you guys expect, budget devices aren’t magic, with free features of premium ones

[glacial gust]

Vita3k can only play like 50-60% of the library

[sour olive]

That's a pretty good amount

[whole ice]

Yeah. Naming and marketing. That's my issue. And at this point it's like they assume we're all idiots. And to be fair the number of people defending it in here... I dunno 😆

[glacial gust]

Not good even ps3 is at 70%

And that console is hard to run

[topaz cave]

We already know it will be similar to the Mangmi air x, people. SOCs are t618 and RK3576. Manage your expectations

[sick lion]

[glacial gust]

[quick cloak]

RG Vita $69

[glacial gust]

Where u got this from?

[sick lion]

Barely woke up and it's already chaos in here

[topaz cave]

Joey

[glacial gust]

Can u link his comment

[topaz cave]

That’d be great for a t618

[sour olive]

He brought it up in his newest video

[tawny lynx]

Yeah, people acted like everyone wanted it to be $100 when that's just what Anbernic decided

[topaz cave]

It was yesterday at night here, I’ll try to find it. But it’s from his blue sky

[whole ice]

Haha. Right? Rewriting history. "Well it had to be $100 so it's the best they could do"

[glacial gust]

Are those chipset powerful enough to emulate vita

[topaz cave]

“Let’s just make Thor 2”

[topaz cave]

Should do at least some vita games, but definitely not well enough

[whole ice]

Well they're dense clearly

Like there's no room between the Thor base and ds. Nope. No possible room there. Fml

[tawny lynx]

Never said that

[sour olive]

That's not what we're saying and you know it

[undone hemlock]

Probably, and that’s a terrible screen.

[blissful parcel]

PAM screen is pretty terrible for ghosting

We don't have that problem here

[topaz cave]

Here is the source of the SOCs for those who wanted it

[topaz cave]

Oh ok. Were just surprised anbernic gets to say what an anbernic will cost

Isn’t there someone you forgot to ask, anbernic?

[undone hemlock]

People are expecting Anbernic to be ayn

They are still a budget retro gaming company at the end of the day and Max Zhou is a cheap mother fucker

[sour olive]

People are expecting the bare minimum

[whole ice]

Lol. These arguments

[acoustic bobcat]

Imagine having any expectations for anbernic product

[whole ice]

Strawmanning the shit out of it

[whole ice]

Most realistic comment yet. Heh

[topaz cave]

Yeah, why can’t it just have a 8 gen 2? 1080p screens? And run 3DS? And dual boot windows? Like why can’t it do all I want?

[whole ice]

Which nobody said

Your arguing with imaginary people

[sour olive]

Literally no one said that

[topaz cave]

Right, it just needs to correspond to all your expectations, that’s all

[whole ice]

It's not my fault you can't imagine any possible hardware between the two devices

[glacial gust]

Lmao t618

[sour olive]

You keep trying to put words into people mouths to try to validate your opinion

[undone hemlock]

T618/620 doesn’t have HDMI capabilities

[stray saffron]

One thing we can all agree on though is that "RG Vita" is a lousy name, cause this thing is absolutely not going to be playing PS Vita lol

[topaz cave]

Can’t you imagine it cheaper? Pricier than the Thor? Free? Literally just whatever you wanted

[whole ice]

Rads more sane. But only slightly

[undone hemlock]

I’m sane?

That’s boring

[topaz cave]

Why didn’t anbernic do the price I wanted?

[whole ice]

Free?

[sour olive]

I'm sane in the Membrane

[topaz cave]

Stupid anbernic they need to consult me next time. Clearly they needed it between $100 and the Thor.

[whole ice]

Free should be the price we all want. Otherwise you're licking boot 😆

[topaz cave]

Because I said so

[whole ice]

Anbernic not your friend homie

[undone hemlock]

You wouldn’t need to change much to have a 476DS

[glacial gust]

Can't they just release the rg3ds with the 477m screen

[terse parrot]

RG 47DS would be so good

[whole ice]

I'm down

[topaz cave]

Buddy you’re literally the one calling a device pathetic because anbernic didn’t do the price you wanted

[whole ice]

Again saying things I never said. Lol

[short goblet]

Anbernic is your friend

[whole ice]

Maybe he needs new glasses

[whole ice]

Yikes. Do I want that?

[stray saffron]

The T618 actually does! I used HDMI out on my old RP3+ quite frequently and it worked great. It was actually the only Android handheld that did do HDMI out properly with correct aspect ratios at the time of it's release, though weirdly Anbernic never included HDMI out in any of their T618 devices. The chipset itself was definitely capable of it though.

[undone hemlock]

If they released a 476DS I would buy it instantly

[short goblet]

everyone's friend

[topaz cave]

No, not at all. Two comments ago “it clearly should’ve been between the $100 and the Thor”

[undone hemlock]

And have zero complaints

[whole ice]

Anbernic is dumb, and markets poorly != Device pathetic

[undone hemlock]

Then why do people keep telling me it doesn’t?

[whole ice]

I honestly just want them to be better. Deserve the astronomical sales they achieve

[sour olive]

Don't know why Gogo is so adamant in defending this

[whole ice]

Was it Gogo? Lol

[sour olive]

You'd think they'd have a personal stake in Anbernic

[topaz cave]

Oop, crazy how I put in your mouth the words you said

[sour olive]

Hopefully they're getting paid

[undone hemlock]

I don’t know who first told me

[sour olive]

Or else this is just sad

[stray saffron]

Probably just because Anbernic never included HDMI out in their T618 devices. Retroid did though, and it worked very nicely.

[whole ice]

Yeah. But you need to have some idea of context. My whole point was if that was their internal design process then they're dumb

[topaz cave]

I’m not defending it. I’m against misleading people. Going around saying it can’t run DS is just a lie, and one that incentivizes people to waste money.

[topaz cave]

Oh no, exactly what I’ve been talking about?

[sour olive]

Except it doesn't run all DS Games

[whole ice]

And repeatedly people who own it has said that its a poor performer for some games. Including my experience

[wicked idol]

Source?

[topaz cave]

Sure bud, you’d never do misinformation right

[whole ice]

And then you just go lalalalalala, and plug your ears

[topaz cave]

“You’re paid because you don’t mislead like we do”

[sour olive]

Golden Sun and Mario Kart DS have issues

[whole ice]

Itll def run all games. But some play poorly

[sour olive]

When upscaled

[topaz cave]

OH so the guy was caught lying, who’d have thought

Oop

[rugged bear]

I don't give a fuck about upscaling in my case

[topaz cave]

Oh no…

[whole ice]

And charging $20/30 and supplying a better soc, or just not making wild marketing claims, could have avoided any of that.

Again, Anbernic dumb. Device ok

[topaz cave]

We mislead and you’re paid if we disagree… oh no..

[rugged bear]

I even play gamecube at a native resolution on my gaming pc

[whole ice]

Peasant brain mentality. Heh

[sour olive]

It doesn't run some at Regular resolution as well

[whole ice]

Should just get og hardware at that point

[sour olive]

You get audio glitches and slowdown

[whole ice]

Imo

[topaz cave]

Oh but “ I didn’t say it had to be the price I wanted, oh no.. don’t put words in my mouth

[sour olive]

GammaOS has fixed some of those issues though

[topaz cave]

Just look at the type of thing you say bro

[whole ice]

The price I want is free. Lol

Who wouldn't want free

Who "wants" a price

[topaz cave]

OG hardware doesn’t play DS. No upscaling, neither 3DS and Ds play DS according to you,

[topaz cave]

Holy backpedaling

[whole ice]

This guy can't read. I swear

Is English not your first language

[rugged bear]

Yeah i could do that but some consoles on resale sites costs like 500€ in my country unfortunately

[whole ice]

Did you even look who I was responding to? Fml

[sour olive]

No shit Sherlock

[rugged bear]

I do have an original new 3ds and a vita tho

[whole ice]

Ah. Ok. Valid then

See. Rally and I just had a convo that made sense. Lol

[topaz cave]

Anyway. Just don’t lie and mislead people. Don’t make purchasing decisions off of this exaggerated drama and double standards. Literally watch Russ’s video and it will disprove whatever bs people spill online and gets you to spend precious money you shouldn’t be wasting.

[topaz cave]

There we go. DS doesn’t play DS
fine people who don’t misinform

[sour olive]

https://youtu.be/MFu4goCqEko?si=NMes5XHVo5f1QUbm

"Better but Flawed"

[whole ice]

Yikes. Dude just makes me want to exit. Y'all been in here with him this whole time? Lol

[sour olive]

But clearly Russ had no issues with it

[topaz cave]

Yeah, can we point to where I said Russ didn’t have a problem with it? Like how I pointed to what you said before to disprove you?

[topaz cave]

I feel great dispelling misinfo.

Let’s help people make informed purchases, not lie and misrepresent to get people to waste money in this economy

[sour olive]

Except he clearly show the issues of the handheld

That's not misinformation

[topaz cave]

You don’t NEED melonds to play DS. You don’t NEED 720p to play DS. Let’s equip people to make informed purchases

[sour olive]

I give up. I'm talking to a brick wall.

[topaz cave]

Great, do give up. People who spread misinfo and mislead people shouldn’t be driving others to waste money

[sour olive]

[topaz cave]

Don’t listen to randos online telling you you need to shell out hundreds to play stuff properly. Be smart. Look up real sources. Reviews. Video showcases. Some people here love to mislead you

Understand the pros and cons and make informed decisions. That’s all.

[sour olive]

By that logic, people should just get a MagicX Zero 40 since that can play DS despite its issues

[whole ice]

Yeah man. Not worth

[sour olive]

It's cheaper than an RGDS Too.

[topaz cave]

See? Once again, pretending like a MagicX Zero 40 can’t be the right device for you

[whole ice]

Unfortunately they'll be like this forever

[sour olive]

So no reason to get it over that

[uncut gate]

I got a MagicX Zero 40 and for the price is really good. The RG DS is not worth it in my opinion!

[topaz cave]

Unfortunately they’ll counter our misleading, boohoo

[whole ice]

My experience as well. One35 pretty sick for what it is

And wasn't oversold

[topaz cave]

Anyway, just elitists acting like only expensive devices are valid, and you should shell out all your money

[uncut gate]

It's a shame they don't ship it to my country

[topaz cave]

According to them, it doesn’t play DS. Stop enjoying our thing, they don’t allow it

[sour olive]

That wasn't even the argument

[whole ice]

Just ignore him. Nobody said any of these things 😆

[sour olive]

But I already stopped

You're the one that keeps continuing this

[whole ice]

Telling you. He's swinging at ghosts

[topaz cave]

Your own words: “By that logic, people should just get a MagicX Zero 40 since that can play DS despite its issues”

The cope

The lying

[whole ice]

https://tenor.com/view/wiz-khalifa-spazzing-punching-crying-gif-7583183

[topaz cave]

Crazy how ghosts can’t stop crying

[uncut gate]

It plays on 1x really well. And if you need a mic, just plug an earphone on it with a usb-c adapter. That's it!

[topaz cave]

And telling people they can’t enjoy their devices

[whole ice]

Haven't started laughing that hard yet. Sorry bro

For you to be funnier you'd have to probably have a slim sliver of self awareness

[topaz cave]

Exactly. You’re proving them wrong

[topaz cave]

The crazy attempts at face saving

Of people who like to mislead others

[whole ice]

Crazy. Eh. It's not that crazy

[whole ice]

Yeah. They were just so close at scaling for just a little more price

[topaz cave]

“By that logic, people should just get a MagicX Zero 40 since that can play DS despite its issues” Oop

Massive oop…

[whole ice]

It just falls in a weird middle ground imo

One they didn't really vocalize pre release

[uncut gate]

I don't know why they didn't include a micropohone in the 1st place. The cost wouldn't be that high!

[whole ice]

Showed some games performing great at scale. Named it ds. Created expectations, etc.

[whole ice]

Yeah. Like I said earlier they seem to have put some weird design restriction to keep it at the price it is

[topaz cave]

Yet a ton of people enjoy the MagicX Zero 40, despite all the yapping about it “not playing DS”

[whole ice]

Instead of just offering the best DS device

But that's kinda how Anbernic rolls so

[topaz cave]

Anbernic

[quick cloak]

RG DS obviously so great it has taken over all RG Vita discussions

[devout plinth]

I think you're little confused between hdmi out and dual display output, which T618 doesn't have

[whole ice]

So I'd have the same expectations here. Just kinda funny. Cause if I show this to my coworkers and say it's name, they'll be like ooo, it plays vita? And then I'll be like, well...

[uncut gate]

If you want to play DS the way it was meant to be played just buy a DS or 3DS. The same thing goes for Vita and PSP!

[whole ice]

Yeah. For those who want that 1x it's def the best solution

[topaz cave]

According to some people a device only plays DS if it’s upscaled on melonds
Yet we all keep enjoying DS on original hardware, 3DS, MagicX, RG DS

[acoustic bobcat]

At $150 rg ds probably could have better screens that maybe even perfectly scale ds, better chip for said upscaling and harder to run games, actually could handle melonds, maybe used a better plastic. Last one would be a pipe dream but at higher price maybe they could even make decent software so people wouldn't have to wait for gamma to fix the bugs

[whole ice]

In 2026 I'd like to play things scaled. Or at least have Anbernic be upfront about limitations prior to release. One or the other. I'd take either 😆

[uncut gate]

Anbernic is missing the mark on these devices similar to the DS and PS Vita. Underpowered and expensive for what it is!

[devout plinth]

the RG DS is like $85 with free shipping right now 😆 , it's selling like hot cake where I live

[whole ice]

See. This sounds fire

[whole ice]

For sure. Just cause something sells insanely doesn't mean it couldn't be better. I just find it hard to believe raising the price $20 would have meant a failed product if it also gave a much more polished experience

[topaz cave]

Yet people play and enjoy original hardware, 3DS, MagicX, RG DS

[uncut gate]

I used Melon DS and didn't like it. Most of the devices don't run it very well. Drastic is so much better!

[topaz cave]

Exactly. People want to play DS. Drastic plays DS. that’s it!

[acoustic bobcat]

If they made this at $150 I would actually buy it because I never had dual screen devices so I wanted to try one at a price low enough that I could justify buying it. I don't want the Thor because I don't like the glass front

[whole ice]

Yeah. There was def market room between the two that would have been solid

[frail wadi]

nah, it's a smaller 5" LCD panel, thing something more budget than the 556

[topaz cave]

It can be found for almost half that right now. $150 can be crazy expensive for many people. Especially with tariffs and currency conversion

[teal sonnet]

Is GoGo Max's account?

[topaz cave]

can I help you brother

Are you one of the ones that think playing on budget devices isn’t valid?

[glacial gust]

Is there an anbernic device that uses 5inch lcd

[uncut gate]

I was so excited to get a RG DS. But after they announced the chipset was not that good, I gave up. And they will do the same with the RG Vita unfortunately!

[teal sonnet]

You already helped with today's entertainment

[acoustic bobcat]

But seeing how successful they were with their sales it looks like people just don't care about quality anymore. Whatever anbernic shits out that day is what people buy, no questions asked. I am just happy we have stuff like Ayn, Retroid, and to some extent Ayaneo to actually deliver quality that customers deserve

[sour olive]

The issue isn't budget devices

I got an RGDS myself

[glacial gust]

Iirc the rg505 uses psvita oled screen

[teal sonnet]

I have no horse in this race and don't give a shit either way

[topaz cave]

“By that logic, people should just get a MagicX Zero 40 since that can play DS despite its issues” -literally you

[topaz cave]

Sure you don’t

Love the entertainment though

[devout plinth]

I read a market research on shower head somewhere, increasing the price of $80 shower head to $90 cut the sale by more than half, so yes, $10 is a lot of money

[uncut gate]

I'm done with Anbernic. I'd rather buy devices with a better usability and not that expensive!

[teal sonnet]

Why you do angry bro ?
It's chaos here this morning

[uncut gate]

This is the real RG Vita!

[topaz cave]

No man, you guys just need to comprehend that budget devices are valid choices, not everyone should shell out hundreds for amenities on top.

[whole ice]

He thinks we're all crying not laughing. Unfortunately

[topaz cave]

Exactly.

[teal sonnet]

I have zero interest in this or the RG DS after learning the specs

[acoustic bobcat]

Retroid is solid but the glass front on everything is a deal-breaker for me unfortunately. Ayn and Ayaneo are the only hopes for me to get devices I want

[uncut gate]

Me too. Shame on Anbernic!

[glacial gust]

Rg3ds when

[teal sonnet]

I just move on no big deal

[uncut gate]

It was a better option instead of the weaker RG DS!

[whole ice]

Yeah. It was my fault. Just used it as an example of how Anbernic can't help but oversell themselves

[topaz cave]

Like I always say, don’t listen to the elitists, listen to good sources and understand the pros and cons to make informed purchases

[whole ice]

Poor vita. Look what they're doing to my boi

[devout plinth]

anbernic has been in this game for 20 years, maxzhou has been doing this since the 80s. Pretty sure anbernic does what in its best interest

[teal sonnet]

Or get this let people have their own opinions

Shocking I know

[whole ice]

Buying this means I'll have to spend the entirety of its ownership explaining the name and what the device can actually do. Lol

[whole ice]

As all companies do

[topaz cave]

Opinions don’t mean misleading others and lying about budget devices, buddy

[uncut gate]

I'm very happy with my Trimui Brick Hammer, Trimui Smart Pro S and the MagicX Zero 40. I'm not spending hundreds of dollars just to play PS2!

[whole ice]

Almost feel like they wanted to be first to grab the vita name

Heh

[teal sonnet]

People want things that work after what they are named after , it's not that complicated, this Will barely play ant Vita games even the few that are playable

[topaz cave]

Despite all the attempts to mislead people and get them to spend more than they need to, you don’t need melonds with upscaling to play DS. Original hardware plays DS. 3DS does, MagicX does. RG DS does.

[whole ice]

Yeah. Reasoning is pretty clear cut and dry

[uncut gate]

I have just bought a mini PC with Ryzen 5 5500 that plays PS2 on a 3x resolution. No more spending over $100 with emulation devices!

[frail wadi]

if this had been named the RG PSP nobody would be upset now

[sour olive]

The thing is that you said people shouldn't spend more for devices because are lying and misinforming. The RGDS has issues some which are fixed with GammaOS but that wasn't the argument. It's was why people weren't happy with the weaker chipset in the RG Vita because despite the name it won't do Vita Emulation well. I brought up the MagicX Zero 40 because due to that mindset, we should be content just because some people are ok with its shortcomings.

[uncut gate]

I agree dude

[whole ice]

It really is this simple

[devout plinth]

5500 or 5500U?

[topaz cave]

Exactly this. Some people will always make it seem like not spending hundreds to get emulation to their elitist standards isn’t valid.

[quick cloak]

That's really all it is

[whole ice]

But alas. Will have to wait for someone else to save the namesake

[quick cloak]

Words matter

[uncut gate]

Yeah. People would buy it right away!

[topaz cave]

Literally yes. If people love their MagicX then who are you to tell them that it’s pathetic for not running melonds? Let people enjoy things.

[sour olive]

I never once brought up MelonDS

[slate drum]

The name is dumb but I don't have anything against the device's existence if the price makes sense for its specs. It cannot reliably play the Vita library for the same reason no other device can: emulation software for the PS Vita just isn't there yet.

[whole ice]

It is interesting. There's def some reason they do these things. I just can't think of it

[quick cloak]

I'm running dedicated OS on Zero 40 for NDS. Love it

[devout plinth]

contrary to popular belief, china does have copyright and patent law, and sony psp is protected in china

[uncut gate]

The low cost device that plays PSP and looks like a Vita is the Trimui Smart Pro S. No need for a RG Vita!

[topaz cave]

Another happy player. That’s what it is all about.

[whole ice]

Yup. Which to me just seems like they're using it to market in poor faith

[frail wadi]

ok name it the RG PPSSPP then

[uncut gate]

I wanna try it someday!

[topaz cave]

But not Vita?

[devout plinth]

noww you got something!

[devout plinth]

vita is a generic word

[whole ice]

Flip up screen for PPSSPPSP?

Two screens

PPSSPPDS

[quick cloak]

Yeah and Zero 40 was $50

[topaz cave]

Couldn’t they argue PSP is as well? Or DS, which is also an acronym and not a generic word.

?

[frail wadi]

vita means life in Italian, can't copyright a common word

[quick cloak]

Works really well. I use another SD card for TATE

[slate drum]

As for the RG DS, the gripe I have against it is that it's marketed as a DS focused device while falling short of the actual DS in several aspects. If 20 years of hardware progress yields a device that isn't superior to original hardware then there's a problem.

[topaz cave]

You can though. That’s why devices are called common words. You copyright it within the video game industry.

That’s why we have the Nintendo switch

[devout plinth]

copyright and patent law in china is not like the US, it's not stupid

[frail wadi]

actually yeah that's fair

[slate drum]

Assuming Anbernic isn't going to try to tell us that the RG Vita is actually supposed to be running Vita games, then fair enough.

[topaz cave]

In what aspects? Because it absolutely is superior in some when it can play 90 percent of games upscaled

[frail wadi]

ok how about the RG VVTT

[whole ice]

Yeah. Always better to name it some random combo of numbers and letters if you're not going to do a proper homage

[topaz cave]

Then why could they call it the rg DS?

[frail wadi]

final offer, RG VVTTPP

[whole ice]

Def feels like they're just grabbing the name for visibility

[devout plinth]

nintendo DS was never called DS in china. A product is only protected under china's law only if it is registered and sold in china

[whole ice]

Maybe to confuse buyers. Maybe muddy the competition's offerings

[slate drum]

Upscaling is all well and good but if it isn't integer scaling then the display won't be reproduced perfectly, and that is in fact not the case on the RG DS, where you need to choose between displaying the game on the full surface of the screen or integer scaling, you can't have both.

[topaz cave]

Yes it was. The iQue DS

[sour olive]

The iQue DS though

See

[devout plinth]

there's little risk of being sued by iQue then 😆

[slate drum]

This would be less of an issue if the screen was high enough resolution but 480p doesn't cut it in my book. the next reasonable step up, 960p, funnily enough WOULD have been enough for integer scaling.

[topaz cave]

Yeah. Upsides and downsides. But it does play all DS games.

[sour olive]

iQue is a Nintendo Subsidiary

[slate drum]

Anyway, this isn't the RG DS thread

[sour olive]

Though it wasn't at the time

[topaz cave]

Then they’re violating the copyright

[devout plinth]

they could argue DS is dual screen, generic

[frail wadi]

you know, I'm a stickler for integer scale, but you can get a long way to normalize pixels with a good shader/filter too

[topaz cave]

By that logic you could call it whatever you wanted, including PS5

[sour olive]

I think don't Nintendo cares

[whole ice]

Yeah. But then they marketed DS games hard. Which like sure... But

[sour olive]

Emulation Handhelds are a different market

[topaz cave]

They would, but China would never give them the cause, so most of these companies get away with it

[slate drum]

When you're at a high resolution like, say, 1080p, sure, integer scaling matters a lot less especially since shaders start factoring in. At 480p, this is more of a tall order.

[devout plinth]

pretty sure the copyright and trademark in china has time limit if not used

[topaz cave]

I mean, they’re literally selling devices with pirated games, so that’s all you need to know

[sour olive]

I'm surprised how certain companies have ROMs preloaded

[topaz cave]

Exactly

[sour olive]

Miyoo and TrimUI come to mind

[lusty adder]

Until they start playing at home and Chains of Olympus start stuttering 😆

[topaz cave]

It does everywhere, yeah

[slate drum]

I sure as hell am not going to complain about integer scaling on my thor where I play my games on it with shaders that throw pixel accuracy right out the window anyway

[devout plinth]

actually anbernic has license to a lot of those games, surprise pikachu face here. older games were not registered in china so nobody cares

[whole ice]

Haha. True

[topaz cave]

Didn’t know that. But then again some of them literally pirated Stardew valley, so

[whole ice]

Funny how that works

[sour olive]

I sold my Thor

[whole ice]

I sold it then bought another. Then sold my DS. Heh

[devout plinth]

all SNK games in china are licensed, a long with many arcade games

[sour olive]

Nice handheld but didn't like how the bottom screen didn't like up correctly on DS Games

[frail wadi]

I'm thinking of buying another

[sour olive]

And you can make the top screen smaller to match

But you'd get big bars around

[whole ice]

OLED saves it a little, but yeah it's not super smooth

[sour olive]

Which isn't a problem a bit annoying

[whole ice]

Hopefully someone releases a better DS successor one day

[sour olive]

It's why I wanted the RGDS to be great

[devout plinth]

the keyword is "in china" they only bought the license for china market. So yes the one sold oversea can be considered pirated

[sour olive]

I might get the Base at some point

I had the Max

[topaz cave]

That’s crazy… by that logic every country could pirate American games, movies, etc

[devout plinth]

yes

[sour olive]

I mean, we're in a Retro Handhelds Discord

I doubt everyone here is getting ROMs legally

[topaz cave]

I know. But I mean that it would be legal if it was like that

[sour olive]

I personally don't care

[frail wadi]

there's another way!?

[sour olive]

It's not companies are going to release all previous stuff

[slate drum]

Why yes, I did get my library of thousands of SNES ROMs from cartridges I legally bought, including those prototypes that never made it into a cartridge in the first place, why do you ask?

[sour olive]

I can't play Castle of Illusion on current hardware

[devout plinth]

what the point of a government to protect an IP if it's not sold or pay taxes in the country?

[slate drum]

Jokes aside, TBH I couldn't care less about whether old games on consoles that are not being manufactured for decades are pirated or not, what does raise an eyebrow is seeing paid emulators, aka the very software (usually developed by individual people) that made their device more useful than as a doorstopper that I'm pretty damn sure they don't have a license to distribute. Anbernic, I'm looking at you.

[topaz cave]

Me neither. I mean, they’re not selling them anymore

[topaz cave]

It’s so I can make a game in Brazil and know that it won’t be pirated by the rest of the world

So same goes for American games here

[sour olive]

Brazil loves Sega

[devout plinth]

you should publish on steam, which will be protected in all the countries steam operates in

[topaz cave]

Yep, there are still clones of old sega consoles being sold today

[devout plinth]

this is why you need a publisher and have to pay them a share

[topaz cave]

Yeah. I will. But if other countries didn’t care about my game because it wasn’t made there, then I would get no sales

[slate drum]

if NES clones are famiclones, what would those be called? Megaclones?

[topaz cave]

So countries protect each other’s IPs to prevent that

[frail wadi]

maybe we should simply agree that copyright laws are messy af

[slate drum]

Genesisn't?

[topaz cave]

It’s only genesis in the us lol

[devout plinth]

some, yes, US, KR, JP and EU has some sort of treaty for this

[topaz cave]

In the rest of the world it’s mega drive

[devout plinth]

don't assume the rest of the word does

[topaz cave]

Pretty sure it does, it’s not legal here either

[sour olive]

They got Master System ports of Games other countries didn't get like Street Fighter 2

And the Genesis Port of Duke Nukem 3D

They're pretty impressive considering the hardware

[topaz cave]

Didn’t know that, that’s cool

But it makes sense, China also had a ton of devs who “ported” games to NES clones

Like there’s literally a port of Pokémon Yellow to the NES

[slate drum]

technically that also includes Canada

And I presume Mexico too since they'd be folded under the North American market where the Mega Drive got that name

[sly rock]

@blissful parcel Doesn't help the fact that Switch lite is a thing for peopel who prefer portable indie games with a small handheld

[slate drum]

...Wrong ping?

[sly rock]

Nah Gamma Talked about VITA not having alot of games

[topaz cave]

Didn’t know that, makes sense

[devout plinth]

the NA market always get edgier names and designs then the rest of the world

[tawny lynx]

This comes to mind

[devout plinth]

yeah, everything must be so serious looking, or dark or edgy

[golden ravine]

I can't imagine a little pink alien baby thing to look threatening

No matter how edgy they wanted it to look he's still cute

[devout canopy]

USA got evil Kirby, plain and simple

[golden ravine]

Isn't Kirby already evil?

[quick cloak]

post 9/11 Kirby

[golden ravine]

A force of destruction that's only purpose is to feed

[devout plinth]

what even is this?

[devout canopy]

and he kills gods

[devout plinth]

JP

[devout canopy]

Final Fantasy III obviously

[devout plinth]

I mean the art

why so edgy?

[devout canopy]

you can't expect an American artist to compete with Yoshitaka Amano

also there are way worse western covers

[devout plinth]

you could just use the same boxart

[worn topaz]

wait

lol

there

[devout canopy]

can't beat this

[kindred widget]

Anbernic Balls is here

And I can't believe I missed the arguing

[golden ravine]

Lol

I'm not interested in arguing but a device that can play upscaled PSP and maybe a couple Psvita games at a reasonable price and looks like a Sony device works for me.

But I'm not gonna be upset at other people for wanting more.

[short goblet]

same here

team Anbernic assemble

[uncut gate]

Where's David????

[carmine sage]

This t618 is pretty damn good still I was playing on it the other day

[topaz cave]

It’s probably what it’ll be. It’ll run a few Vita games (I guess so they can claim it runs Vita) but mostly it’ll work best for PSP

[weary basin]

PS Vita with ABXY is wild

[golden ravine]

I have a lot of experience with Vita3k, I know it's not the best yet so I'm not expecting much.

The thing I'm worried about is if the processor is better than the RG DS and hopefully it has more ram, at least 4gb, it's probably gonna be overpriced for what it is

I'm pretty sure Sony has a copyright on their buttons

[topaz cave]

It’ll be a bit better, it’s the t618 and rk3576

[golden ravine]

The T618 is good, I have the RG505 and I love it

[weary basin]

It's dejavu T618, PSVita Screen

[sly rock]

I used to have 505 I loved it

[golden ravine]

An Rg505 with an updated shell sounds great

[devout canopy]

I still have a 505, I ain't buying another one

[sly rock]

Even had gamma OS on it

[sly rock]

But what if this handheld can play GBA games?

[weary basin]

https://tenor.com/view/what-what-the-what-the-hell-wtf-gif-8562994133044611418

[golden ravine]

The 505 can play GBA

[devout canopy]

505 can't, the screen scales too badly

but no

[sly rock]

To be fair that might be the RG VITA depending on whether it's the OLED screen

[golden ravine]

I guess I'm built different. I don't notice that stuff.

I have never owned a real GBA so maybe that's part of it

[topaz cave]

It’s really not that noticeable if you don’t worry about it. It just makes the pixels look crisp. Definitely nice but it’s not like millions of people don’t emulate on non integer scaled screens everyday

[weary basin]

Don't see the issue with it either

[sly rock]

I stretch my games too

[golden ravine]

Honestly I'd prefer a 720p LCD screen over that particular OLED

[weary basin]

https://tenor.com/view/cynthia-erivo-shocked-shock-jumping-back-walking-back-gif-12035888169669287630

I prefer black bars over that

[golden ravine]

Also I don't really stretch I just don't mind black bars

[weary basin]

My graphic designer self couldn't

[sly rock]

Oh yeah since the OLED is literally just VITA screens though to be fair upscaling by 2x on the PSP would look nice on it

[sly rock]

Ohh makes sense

[stray saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/noahs-arc-its-an-abomination-tragic-i-dont-agree-this-aint-it-gif-21013302

[sly rock]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-they-called-me-a-madman-infinity-war-madman-gif-13990981

[golden ravine]

PSP is the best looking thing on it. Everything else is ok at best

[sly rock]

Technically the VITA too! though not sure how well it performs on VITA Games

[stray saffron]

No stretchy stretchy! I will take ALL the black bars XD

[weary basin]

Things I play on vita can be run on RK3566 so I have no problem with that

[golden ravine]

https://youtu.be/yHjjwMUgvTk

https://youtu.be/E5xLYOKRFFI

[limber hull]

Still no spec announcement?

[golden ravine]

T618 and Rk3576 apparently

I don't where that came from though

[mystic bison]

Anberic missed the mark by not calling their company Anbrick

[limber hull]

Is that good?

[topaz cave]

People who have it

[topaz cave]

It's in the class of a Mangmi Air X

[undone hemlock]

Or how about a 1280x960 LCD

[limber hull]

Interesting

[golden ravine]

Better than the Mangmi Air X at least in raw power

[golden ravine]

I've never seen a 16:9 screen with that resolution

[undone hemlock]

Fuck 16:9, 4:3 goodness!

[topaz cave]

Both?

[tawny lynx]

4:3 for a vita handheld

Rg slide all over again

[undone hemlock]

I will never stop glazing that 4.7” screen

[golden ravine]

We do not want the same thing

It's fine but still

Haven't used a 4:3 screen since I was maybe 12

[weary basin]

They named it vita just to do 4:3

I hope they did the vita back touchpad

[sly rock]

Ohh thanks

[sly rock]

This reminds me I'm shocked retro game corps doesn't have vita emulation

[little crescent]

Vita emulation can't be a benchmark of anything is not stable is buggy some games just don't work because don't and anything more.

[sly rock]

I disagree VITA emulation still needs to be mentioned even if it isn't all there since it's nice to be informed on the latest vita emulation scene from retro game corps since it's geting better and better

[worn topaz]

it would age really poorly though

like a year from now, if someone's looking at the review and it says that it runs vita terribly but maybe in reality the emulator progressed a ton and now it works fine

[sly rock]

just put a disclaimer lol it ain't that hard

[undone hemlock]

No one reads the description or a pinned comment

[sly rock]

I meant put the disclaimer on the video itself

[undone hemlock]

If you do then you’re a weird freak

[sly rock]

Lmao good point

[golden ravine]

Most people aren't super desperate to play Vita enough to deal with the buggy app. Not to mention inconsistent performance

[undone hemlock]

Or even care about a console they never played

[golden ravine]

When it works it's nice but it takes a lot of work to get there

[sly rock]

agree to disagree would rather have it up on retro game corps

Though you have a point on VITA games being mid unless it's persona 4 though that can be played on the switch

[undone hemlock]

And a lot of people put the videos on as background noise. So unless the person edits in a new segment to the existing video specifically vocally saying that disclaimer (which 99%) of YouTubers will not do that)

[sly rock]

he would like he did with the early switch emulation he vocally adds a disclaimer we're Switch emulation kinda sucks but is improving

[undone hemlock]

Russ is one of very few that will

[sly rock]

Yup that's why I originally said that it would be nice if Russ does vita emulation

[raw ice]

https://tenor.com/view/toaster-lights-on-and-off-bathtub-confused-bill-murray-gif-10874237

[worn topaz]

It could be an interesting way to get a few 7th gen games and 8th gen indies on lower end platforms at least, if the emulation progressed enough

[sly rock]

for real for real

[sly rock]

True! I hope VITA emulation gets better since it's less power hungry than the switch plus VITA has hell divers 1 which would be interesting to see on emulation

[frail wadi]

no lol

[short goblet]

https://klipy.com/gifs/postman-pat-bbc

[raw ice]

POSTMAN PAT AND HIS BLACK AND WHITE CAT

core memory unlocked

[sour olive]

That used to air on Qubo

Same with Fireman Sam

[tawny lynx]

A523 🗣️

[undone hemlock]

This was the preceding message

So no