Mangmi Pocket Max

[still ember]

The dpad and buttons

[wicked lance]

Its also in their vid

[proud vector]

What is the point

[dusty rain]

okay... WHY THE FUCK

[proud vector]

In the modularity

A better use case

Would be to swap the stick orientation

Or some shit

[wicked lance]

Yep 🙄

[dusty rain]

fuck the price, I'm out

[proud vector]

They should make the fucking analog sticks modular

And not just the buttons

AND PUT A MORE POWERFUL CHIPSET IN THERE

HOW MANY MORE FOOTGUNS

WILL IT TAKE

[frail summit]

Idk. In all honesty it seems gimmicky to me. Like if its to swap the layout Xbox->Nintendo that's something thats done in the top down menu in most handhelds. You don't need modules for that.

[wicked lance]

I repeat Wulffden’s modules stopped working on his ayaneo 3. Thats an even higher end device than this.

Really annoying gimmick

Worse than glass fronts

[frail summit]

We'll have to see the price

[proud vector]

The glazers will keep glazing

[proud vector]

It'll be $180 at the very least

[dusty rain]

I bought one controller with modules and that already sucked, not gonna have a handheld with this bullshit

[proud vector]

Which makes the rpg2 a much more appealing option

Unless you NEED the large high refresh rate oled

Want high refresh rate? Get an rg477

[wicked lance]

https://tenor.com/view/im-out-we-out-peace-out-disappear-gif-15464202

[proud vector]

Want oled? Get an rg557

[frail summit]

Anything more than 250 and it's over

[proud vector]

Want performance? GET A FUCKING G2 OR PUSH FOR AN RP6

[frail summit]

Maybe as early bird if they're generous

Otherwise its low 200s at the minimum

[proud vector]

Do you have money to spare? GET AN ODIN 2 PORTAL OR ODIN 3

It's an embarrasment for mangmi to come out flying with the competitive air x

And then shoot themselves in the foot 500 times

With whatever this is going to end up being

[dusty rain]

anyway, it was nice here, but I'm going to leave this channel now

someone tell Mangmi that this bullshit is the biggest fuck-up and modules are totally stupid (could have just done magnetic buttons you can swap for a different layout)

[frail summit]

The modularity is the biggest concern to me otherwise the rest of the device is sound

[proud vector]

It will be redundant

Drive up production costs which will then be passed on to the user

And when the modules eventually do fail

Yeah

I WOULD TAKE A MORE POWERFUL CHIPSET

[frail summit]

That I know

[proud vector]

OVER THIS USELESS MODULARITY

[frail summit]

But by how much

[frail summit]

Not possible

Literally get an Odin 2 Portal atp

If it had a more powerful chip you'd be at the 300s

I'll take the 865 thank you very much

[proud vector]

I mean

They could reinvest the costs from making the modules and shit

Into unit prices for slightly better chips?

[frail summit]

Well they have no plans currently to do any additional skus

So what we get is what we get

[wicked lance]

Can’t wait for @dire charm, @open drum and @lost raptor to discuss this on next podcast. Become the new divisive handheld 🫠

[frail summit]

Idk if the modularity will be the straw that breaks the camels back but I doubt it

The pricing definitely will if priced incorrectly

[open drum]

Wow I see how it is

SORRY GUYS IM NOT TALKING ABOUT IT

[obsidian granite]

Hopefully Mangmi can make a Pro version of the Air X with SD 865 for around $150 because I just might be out on this one

[wicked lance]

Edited 🤣

This chats moving so fast. Couldn’t add names fast enough

[frail summit]

I guess a lot of ppl care about modularity

I don't particularly care for the feature but it doesnt outright kill the device for me

[vast coral]

so many angy people today 😄

[frail summit]

Yea

And i just woke up again

[wicked lance]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-keyboard-work-workaholic-funny-gif-12523234

[vast coral]

the 865 is a weak chip now apparently 😄

[obsidian granite]

Not angry just confused about the hardware decision, don't mind the SD 865 at all but the modular controls are kind of pointless IMO

[vast coral]

oh true the modular stuff makes me a bit confused myself

[frail summit]

In the video it didn't look like we could swap the stick which in all honesty thats the reason most would want the modularity imo

Without that what's the point

[still ember]

Launch price is really matter whether modular approach or not. if launch at 160-170 EB, everything will be okay.

[civic ore]

https://tenor.com/view/bold-strategy-dodgeball-cotton-strategy-tactics-gif-4957668

[still ember]

modular is more repairability that is a new approach that is not done by other retro handheld manufacturers.

[civic ore]

very bold move, they already had a banger if they just kept the price low

[proud vector]

Air X Pro with SD865 is just an RP5 with an IPS..hmm

If priced correctly it could be killer

[deep vector]

I don't get having a modular handheld with a device that has a 6 year old chipset

It's like it's want to be a Flagship without the specs of an actual current Flagship

[frail summit]

Would you rather paying closer to 300 bucks for a G2 Gen 2 or 8 Gen 2

You could just get a Portal at that point you know

[vast coral]

2026 is going to be fun with all the 'just buy a portal/thor' stuff 😄

[frail summit]

More of a 2025 thing but I can see it still being relevant next year

[obsidian granite]

This what I'm talking about , make some small improvement add a SD 865 keep it budget and they would have another big hit

[civic ore]

worked out well for Retroid

[vast coral]

nah its too late for them apparently as 865 is underpowered for some people 😄

[still ember]

If launch at the correct price, S865 chipset will be good.

[obsidian granite]

I think your expectation might be a little too unrealistic as this is their flagship device so far ,, 144Hz OLED and modular controls are not in budget priced handhelds .
What would you consider the correct price ? I think at minimum it will be around $200 the more we see specs

[frail summit]

It has to be between 200 and 250 imo

Anymore than that and its just a no go from me

[obsidian granite]

At $200 it's already a tough sell when you can get a RP6 with far superior hardware with just a slightly smaller screen

[still ember]

It is 180 launch price or 200 or worse 220. We shall wait and see.The last Mystery that Mangmi has not reveal yet.

[frail summit]

But at the same time at 200 thats the only 7" screen at that price range

They would effectively avoid competition for the most part at that price

[still ember]

if they launch at 220 or 250, i think it is crazy.
180 or 200 still okay.

[frail summit]

If you want to chase performance yes the RP6 is more bang for the buck

[still ember]

I totally agreed. That's why retro device is so cut throat.
But anbernic devices always at high prices and nobody complain about their high prices.

[obsidian granite]

Sure and it's a great feature but I'm guessing most at that price would take a smaller screen for better performance, both will have great OLED screen's so it will come down to how important a 1" bigger screen is important to each individual

[frail summit]

Depends on what Anbernic you're looking at. The ones released this year are mostly stinky and overpriced

[frail summit]

Personally I like the bigger screens and the 865 suffices for what I want to do

[still ember]

That 1 inches is quite important for PC streamer especially the font may be more readable at 7 inches instead of 6 inches.

Please launch at a killer price 170-180. it will be great.

[obsidian granite]

We will see how this all plays out , it will be interesting thats for sure but i'll be honest the modular controls are not something I wanted to see as it could just be a extra failure point

[frail summit]

Moving parts = potential points of failure

But we'll see

[still ember]

I dont think it is so bad. dont get so negative when have not seen this devices and no reviewer review the device.

[frail summit]

This is just how it generally thing for most things even outside of handhelds

Moving parts can break very easily

[obsidian granite]

Just saying it's unnecessary and just adds to cost with not much benefit and just adds a extra point of potential issues, what if you loose it or for whatever reason has software issues , no one asked for this

[vast coral]

its funny when david tells people not to get negative 😄

[north flower]

Damn, the retro power color, the naming scheme, and now modular buttons? They really are Ayaneo

I never would've expected modularity, pretty good decision to differentiate it from the portal though

[civic ore]

idk if good decision, they didn't need to do this to sell, and it's a negative for many

[north flower]

I think it gives it some staying power, instead of just being a cheaper portal people might stop using once they get something more powerful

Modular controls are a cool idea so to see them in a more accessible product than the Ayaneo 3 is a win imo

[deep vector]

Retroid has cheap prices though and uses more current chipsets whenever they release a new device

Also the 865 is not a Flagship in 2025 going on to 2026

I don't get why you guys are so adamant in defending this

[frail summit]

Chief if they used a more powerful chip it'd be much much higher in cost

If the 865 was supposed to be their way of cutting cost then it's fine

[deep vector]

It's going to be higher because they also decided to make it modular

[frail summit]

But by how much?

That is the question

[deep vector]

I'll love to be wrong though

[frail summit]

Here's my baseline

If its 250 and up the big nice screen and the modularity can't make up for the chip

If 250 and below they have something

[distant sigil]

I hope it's 200 lol

[frail summit]

Same

[distant sigil]

ahh I'm arguing qabout the price again, fuck

[still ember]

When switch 2 having magnetic attraction to their joycon do people mention that it is removable bound to have failure.
Yes, it could be a problem ( like hinges problem miyoo faced)
but we could not pass this judgement until the actual unit in on hand and reviewer review the units and give their verdict.
Mangmi pocket max will sell with 1 year warranty so the module break down easily it will damage their reputation and I am afraid it will affect their sales. Will this modular will force the production cost to increase.
We will know from the launch price. We must give Mangmi a benefit of doubt until reviewer will check whether the module is firm or drop out easily.

[frail summit]

Ik im so over the price

They're already showing off the device the price can't be too far off can it?

[distant sigil]

It's a cool handheld, not for people who chase performance obviously, but it's much better than the G cloud this intends to replace

G cloud if it wasn't dogwater

[vital brook]

Tbf 250 is too much and i am a SD865 defender , the RP6 has a Gen2 and Oled and it's not that price.

[still ember]

@earnest knoll when will you let us know the indicative launch price. Your modular design for joypad and button make alot of them worry that your launch price will be unexpectedly high. Hope to hear from your indicative launch price for early bird.

[deep vector]

Except most people aren't buying this for streaming

[frail summit]

I know thats what I'm trying to say

[distant sigil]

ram pricing jumps too much, they won't tell you hahah

[deep vector]

Streaming is for a very small subset of people

[frail summit]

Its still usable outside of streaming

The 865 is still capable

[still ember]

I wrote to @earnest knoll asking for indicative launch price. Hope they will reply soon to ease everyone worries.

[distant sigil]

It's rp5+streaming+bigger screen, there's value here

[frail summit]

Hella value considering the other 7" options

[distant sigil]

some people just don't like how small rp5 is

[frail summit]

One is irrelevant and the other is hundreds more

[vast coral]

a bigger battery would be nice too

[still ember]

indicative launch price only. not full actual prices.

[vast coral]

now will I buy one? Not likely given how many handhelds i already own 😄

[frail summit]

I mean its a big device so its reasonable to expect a big battery

[still ember]

like anbernic did mention in their RGDS, anbernic keep mentioning that their RGDS will be below 100 dollar.

[frail summit]

I just need a handheld that fills the PS2, GC, and Wii gap. Thats the priority anything else is a bonus

[still ember]

Unless Mangmi wanted to delay their launch, it will be announced soon the indicative launch EB price.

[nocturne mulch]

Ex-ayaneo gonna be ayaneo still

At this point that rumour have probably become true, it literally took the design of the Ayaneo 3's modular buttons

Just without the sticks included

[earnest knoll]

I honestly wish I could share pricing details too, but the indicative launch price isn’t finalized yet, so I don’t have anything concrete to confirm right now. Once pricing is locked, I’ll share it with you all as soon as I’m allowed to.

[flint quiver]

Price is going to be everything for this device

[still ember]

@earnest knoll You will find that everyone is speculate on the prices from 160 to 250 !!!!
Silvia Mangmi, please repeat what you did with Air X and give us a pleasant surprise with the launch price. All the best. 🙏

[flint quiver]

Beyond $200 there’s diminishing value for this

[distant sigil]

David is going nuclear after the price reveal

[autumn pond]

David is absolutely going crazy with the price reveal 😂 😂

[ivory portal]

Are you aiming to ship before Chinese new year?

[narrow heart]

Please offer a discounted bundle that includes the microswitch D-pad and ABXY button set 🙏

[still ember]

How could they provide extra accessories? Just give us a good launch EB peices.

[narrow heart]

I’m not asking for free accessories...just a slight discounted price compared to buying the modular accessories at full retail price after the early-bird launch ends

[still ember]

Okay. Yes, it is possible meaning bundle with additional modules with handheld devices.

[novel spindle]

Is it just me who want this to be $250 just to see David's meltdown

[vast coral]

nah lets make this 300 😄

with an early bird deal of 180 but only for the first 100 backers 😉

[novel spindle]

If that happens, Mangmi will be the new magnum opus of David's Anbernic love-hate relationship.

[civic ore]

yes, and also sell a cheaper one with no dpad and no face button set

(don't actually do this)

[cursive glacier]

forced bundle with all dpad/button styles that pushes it to $250

[still ember]

From Mangmi discord server.
Take note it is not modular design?

2 separate designs??

[wicked lance]

Now this i can get behind

[lone saffron]

Also no back pedals and the volume/power button setup is completely different

Seems odd

My guess is Ai

The triggers are kind of melding together

[wicked lance]

If they do a non modular model. I would prefer that

But yes very AI looking pic 🙂

[still ember]

Maybe some users add this images to the server.
Hopefully Mangmi may still consider simple design.

[frail summit]

Dawg that's AI

Not even from Mangmi themselves

[runic lance]

So is david

[frail summit]

Why's an AI pushing so hard to keep the price of the PM low?

What did he mean by this?

[wicked lance]

Ah let down. Back on the jank train then 🤣

[civic ore]

this is 100% AI slop

[mild hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/clankers-gif-12200360494539266701

[worn bay]

Not trying to start anything but yeah, gen ai rules are lax in there

I hate it but most people there are nice so it's whatever

Kind of a rite of passage in this space anyhow

[mystic jetty]

I have never had so much fun catching up on a chat before

What a rollercoaster ride

[timber gulch]

Is this going on sale in the next few days

[sturdy dove]

probably not

mangmi pretty much testing the water left and right leaking stuff

with the recent gimmick of button modules being release

and people's question regarding about pricing and such

they're probably having a internal discussion about the price before price announcement

because their device is either "WOW this is not bad" or "Dead on arrival" situation

[frail summit]

I think the least surprising thing about the device was the chipset since that's something we already knew for a while

Everything else came out of left field

[timber gulch]

$200 or less i suppose is the sweet spot with retroid 6 starting at 229 albeit with a smaller screen.The 7inch oled screen is what is interesting me with this.Button modules don't really interest me .I just see it as something else that can go wrong.I just wouldn't be bothered to swop them out not that we have seem what they could be swopped for.Though if it was just moving the same module around that would be really lame.

[wintry mountain]

Yesss the orange text on the buttons is losing the poll #1348900923077951529 message

They also had the poll on their YouTube page but I can't find it anymore

[north flower]

And people complain about every handheld looking the same

[tough fulcrum]

This is gonna be the RP6 all over, the community voted on what they wanted and then when it releases they'll complain and want the other designs back

Like just make the Max look like the white/orange Air X. That one looked really good

[cursive glacier]

if it’s not orange, it’s not Mangmi

[livid socket]

the people have spoken

[still ember]

Hopefully this poll result will be read by Mangmi to consider their EB launch price.

[flint quiver]

Over $180 is a no go

[still ember]

Let this discord chat group votes to hear from them the sensible launch prices for Pocket Max.

[wintry mountain]

Is your poll asking us about the EB price or the normal launch price?

[still ember]

Yes EB launch price.

[wintry mountain]

Ah right yeah I was thinking $200 normal price so voted $180 EB

Though I doubt this will come in a good price with them adding stuff like those modular parts

[still ember]

We must hope that this modular do not inccur higher production cost result in higher EB launch price.

[wintry mountain]

They just need to get rid of that feature lol, it's gonna jack the price up for no good reason.

If the modularity let us swap between d-pad/stick top/bottom then that'd be sweet tho, I think that'd actually be worth paying a bit extra for

[still ember]

Mangmi set a high standard in price/performance for Mangmi Air X.
They need to followup with Pocket Max.

[solemn hollow]

Did you guys try overclocking the SD865, considering the big shell and a potentially large fan??

[nimble isle]

I would buy this for 200 Early bird price. Yes it's all glass front but I wanted to try this for streaming to see how it feels compared to the Astra I use now. If I don't like it, those retro gaming devices sell used on eBay for about 30% more than you spend on the new one so there is literally 0 opportunity cost to trying this out

Especially if Etsy people make a skin to cover the glass front, that would be amazing for my use cases. Astra is too expensive to take outside of the house, this one is going to be at least half the price so there is a lot less to worry about when it comes to taking this with me on vacations and shit

865 should comfortably handle psp and PS2 from my experience with the flip 2 so it's actually going to be good enough performance. It's pretty much a portal for half the price but the drawback is that it can play less switch and a bit less of ps2

[vast coral]

The astra looks gorgeous

[wintry mountain]

Yeah I do like the look of the Astra. Seems like RedMagic release their tablets around June and phones around November; so I'm thinking I might get whatever their 8 Elite Gen 5 tablet is in June, if prices aren't crazy

[wicked lance]

Now if they can add an sd slot and a real fan (not the fake one) i’m with you 😁😅

[wintry mountain]

Ah man yeah they're stingy with the microSD card slots ain't they...

The new tablet better be liquid cooled like their 11 Pro phone lol

[still ember]

Happy New year 2026.
May all of you have great year ahead. 🙂

[nimble isle]

If it's more widely used resolution, better usb port location and roughly the same size panel I would also upgrade from the Astra to the newer model. Astra is still selling for almost brand new prices on eBay so if get to use for 6-8 months, sell and get a new one with minimal losses that would be great

[vital brook]

Happy New Year 🥳

[obsidian granite]

https://tenor.com/view/new-year-2022-gif-24334949

[still ember]

#1448862795788582922 message

please remember to vote as this poll is to let Mangmi decide the sensible launch price for them to reach the maximum sales volume.

Happy New year 2026 @earnest knoll which that you will have a successful launch for pocket max.
Yes also Happy new year to Silvia Mangmi also 🙂 Wish you continue to have such beautiful nails always.

[brazen flare]

I think that $180 is too close to the price of products from Retroid with the same chipset. Mangmi is still a new brand, and I would be much more likely to take a chance on their products at $160.

[still ember]

I think 180 dollar still okay as it is 7 inches oled 144hz with modular design. Only not so great is the soc S865. Hopefully they will do a pocket max pro version at 250 dollar with minimum 8gen2 chipset.

[brazen flare]

The screen is definitely the biggest selling point here... I have a Thor but I'm eyeing this as a possible PS5 streaming device

The swappable buttons really make no sense to me at all. I've been trying to think of an example where it would be useful to have a dpad on the right and unless you have some sort of an accessibility need (which might make this great for you) I can't think of anything

I'd much rather be able to swap the dpad and left analog stick

[still ember]

The modular design is for repairability for dpad and buttons. You only need to change module rather than teardown to fix your buttons and dpad.

if they can keep the cost low, modular design still okay.

[brazen flare]

And that's what I really don't understand at all about this. I've been in this hobby for over 15 years and I've never heard of dpads or face buttons breaking. Analog sticks? Sure, but never a dpad

If you somehow crack your dpad in half I have to assume it would be a lot easier to just 3D print a new one

Frankly I think the chances of the swappable modules failing is much higher than a dpad or face buttons failing

[vast coral]

I still think 160 is pretty unrealistic, but maybe for early bird?

[still ember]

I think 160 for EB maybe abit difficult.
Thats why i choose 180 EB.

[solemn hollow]

Yup, 180 sounds probable considering it's a 7" OLED

[nimble isle]

Imo 200 is the most realistic with the swappable button modules. Without this feature 180 would be possible. To be fair I don't think anyone really cares about 20 dollars. If you expected it at 160 and then it's 220 sure it's a sizable different but if you wanted 180eb and then it launches at 200 it's not really a big deal

As others said, the main feature is the big oled screen, only comparable option is the portal that is more powerful but also double the price since the base model is out of stock so I think 200eb and 220-230 retail is fair for this device

[obsidian granite]

No $20 isn't going to make or break anyone but the thing as $200 your creeping into RP6 prices which is very similar handheld that just has a smaller screen but much better chipset

[frail summit]

Pocket Max is a trade off as it is. You get a bigger and nicer screen but you miss out on a more powerful chip at around the same price range.

[mystic jetty]

Each to their own. If people are expecting sub 180 for a OLED 7inch 144hz device, good luck with that

(post early bird)

[obsidian granite]

Sure, but if you ask most in this hobby they would most likely trade in a slightly smaller screen screen for something with basically twice the power + more efficiency

[obsidian granite]

Definitely not after the modular control reveal

[frail summit]

Yea that's the iffy thing for the PM imo

[mystic jetty]

I want my rp5 again but in a bigger display, so I'll be happy paying 200$+ for my needs

[frail summit]

The screen is nice but idk if its nice enough to trade the performance you'd get with an RP6

[mystic jetty]

Depends what you play though, if you want just ps2 and gc on a bigger display, it's quite tempting.

Everything I want to play on Gamehub runs on rp5 so it be nice to enjoy sea of stars / hades / octopath on a larger display, for me personally.

But I also kinda want to see a higher price, just for the shit show in here afterwards

[near edge]

There aren’t really any other devices of this size at this price range, so that alone will give it plenty of reasons to exist with how pricy the Odin 2 Portal is.

I like smaller devices, so I myself don’t see any reason to get it over the RP6 if it’s priced around $200

[obsidian granite]

To tell you the truth I would be more interested in a upgraded Air X with a bit more power

[mystic jetty]

Guess they didn't want to compete with the odin portal

With the amount of devices coming out, I think people should just accept what a company is doing, if you don't like it , wait for the next one.

[near edge]

Something like an Air X with 865 for ~$150 maybe?

[mystic jetty]

Isn't their a new device coming out with a 4:3 960p display, 865 chip, and a single analog???

[near edge]

Don’t see why it wouldn’t be doable when we’re getting 8gen2 in the RP6 for a lil over 200 now

[mystic jetty]

They decided to go for a big screen though so it's going to affect the price unfortunately, we may not want the big screen but it's not our company. If people don't buy it then it's a lesson learnt for them. But so many devices are getting released or coming out of no where every month or other month, I'm sure something will come at a price people will be happy for

All this crying about the price before it's even announced is good reading entertainment for me though. Idont want to miss out on Davids rants

[obsidian granite]

Would be awesome

[obsidian granite]

I don't see the point of having a SD 865 device that can play most twin stick systems only have a single stick

[near edge]

Yeah, and it gives people a choice between a smaller device, or a large device too

[mystic jetty]

Same, so I won't buy it and will move on from it.

It's that simple

[nimble isle]

Valid point but I think this device is not targeting the same audience that would go for rp6. Mangmi is big and low powered, does well with lower end systems, just enough on the high end stuff but not without hiccups. Rp6 is a powerful option, that doesn't really struggle with anything even high end, constrained by compatibility at this point. They should be roughly the same price maybe mangmi slightly cheaper because you trade the extra power of rp6 for bigger screen which would make sense if you like game streaming and have other devices/gaming pc to handle all things high end way better than any handheld could

[obsidian granite]

It's just something to consider when making a decision unless you buy every new handheld release.
To us hardcore handheld crazies it might not be that big a deal but if your new to this hobby can make a difference

[nimble isle]

At the moment there are really great options for all types of players:

1. Want a big screen with midrange chip? Go for mangmi
   2.Want the most powerful devices on the market? Go for Odin 3 or RP6
2. Want both big screen and a powerful chip? Buy Odin 2 Portal

[still ember]

point 2 8gen2 is less powerful than konkr fit pocket g3gen3.
powerful but only 6 inches.
konkr fit pocket.

[vast coral]

Shame they're taking ages to arrive in people's hands and made by AYAneo 😄

[nimble isle]

I have a high end pc so I have no use for a powerful chip on the handheld. I want big oled screen, Snapdragon chip for great decoding on game streaming, comfortable ergonomics for long gamins sessions and a reasonably large battery so that I can use the device for 3-4 hours at a time without running out of battery. I would strongly prefer if this option didn't have all glass front but like with everything in life, there can't be the perfect device in this hobby apparently

[vast coral]

you can have the best device ever made but it barely matters for shit when backed by terrible customer service, unreliable shipping etc

[still ember]

If you buy from ayaneo, you must be as patient as Job 🙂

[nimble isle]

I am not even going to mention konkr because of the 2 huge downsides: screen is not oled(automatic skip from me), and you are not getting it for months unless you overpay to dropshippers

[still ember]

but konkr fit pocket 239 EB price is really amazing. Best price to performance premium handheld. Ergonomic also good no need to buy grip.

[vast coral]

It is amazing value, if and when they actually turn up 😄

[still ember]

Is Oled essential that u choose Oled only devices.

[nimble isle]

I am not even sure if there are resellers for this that ship it quickly

[nimble isle]

Yes 100%

Almost every screen in my house is oled and I can see the difference instantly when I look at non oled screen

It's a personal preference

[still ember]

Seem like Retroid and ayn shift all their screen to Oled. they dont use LCD anymore.

[nimble isle]

And that's great, if only they stopped doing all glass fronts for everything

[obsidian granite]

Screen is still really really high quality in the Fit , maybe not OLED good but every early review says its very good still

[still ember]

My phone is Oled, my device Mangmi Air X is LCD, i really cannot see the different.
I afraid you cannot buy switch 2 as it is LCD.

[nimble isle]

I don't even want the switch 2, library for exclusive games to switch 2 is so small that I don't even see the reason getting it to play like 3 games I want to play

Maybe in 2-3 years when library expands I will buy it

[obsidian granite]

Don't get me wrong I would prefer OLED screens everytime but it's not a make or break it feature for me personally but can understand why people might

[digital igloo]

I am ok with LCD as long as it is decent + priced appropriately

[still ember]

The only screen where oled is important to me is steamdeck oled. not for the screen quality but the battery lifes. x86 handheld really use too much batteries.

[nimble isle]

For me if I pay for something high end, I want it to be high end on the things I care about, screen is the major factor for my handheld purchases. I can tolerate the brick because it's very high Res for the size but I can still notice it not being oled every single time I turn it on

[still ember]

not all x86 handheld or even gaming lap with oled screen.
But to me it is still okay.

[digital igloo]

For Odin 3 Vs konkr, during SEB prices I will go o3, since the small price gap between the konkr elite and o3 is not worth passing up on the oled.
This is until the SEB price has passed for o3 and konkr announce permanently keeping their SEB price for the campaign period where the konkr elite start being a more viable alternative.

[tough fulcrum]

Yeah I seriously doubt they'll be keeping their early bird prices. The odin3 ultras that have already been ordered have been pushed back because theyre having a hard time sourcing ram at their original price point, and you can't place new orders anymore. By the time ayaneo gets caught up with their konkr orders who knows how high ram prices will be

[vast coral]

No way in hell they'll keep the early bird, yeah. Gonna be awkward

[mystic jetty]

Open YouTube on both and watch a video on the night sky and with plentiful stars or some star field video. Tell me if you don't see the difference

Only time I opted for the lcd over Oled was when I bought a ps vita

[still ember]

Maybe. But Oled also got different grade one. For me I am okay with LCD display as gameplay for retro games is the most important element. not lcd or oled display.

[mystic jetty]

Yeah, not minding lcd display is cool an all, I got nothing against it. But you did say you don't see a difference between them and you know that's a lie

I too wouldn't mind an lcd if it's just for retro either

[still ember]

The only things i notice is that oled black is true black while lcd still use backlight.
secondly, LCD suffer light bleed.

[mystic jetty]

Yep pretty much. Making gaming on Oled at night or in dark rooms superior

[still ember]

I play games on Air X low budget lcd screen and i find the display okay.

[mystic jetty]

Something we have already established 👍

[late pike]

Come on Mangmi, lets see the price already 😅

[still ember]

This one is tough, even chatgpt and deepseek cannot help to solve this problem.
Find the optimal launch prices.
Apple having a easy job, any prices they launch for their iphone is a great launch prices. People will queue and buy although they are overpaying compare to the actual cost price for iphone.

From Chatgpt

Given your specs — 7" OLED 144 Hz + Snapdragon 865 — you are not in the mass-volume retro segment anymore. This is a premium enthusiast device, so “maximum sales volume” means maximizing demand within a niche while staying profitable, not competing with $99 handhelds.
Below is a realistic, numbers-driven pricing answer, not theory.

1. Reality check: what market you’re in
   Your device competes with:
   AYN Odin Pro / Odin 2 (used comparison)
   Retroid Pocket 4 Pro (cheaper but smaller, LCD)
   Steam Deck OLED (indirect competitor)
   Your advantages ✅ Large OLED
   ✅ 144 Hz (Android gaming, Moonlight, streaming)
   ✅ SD865 still respected & mature
   Your limitations ❌ Older flagship SoC
   ❌ Strong competition above $300
   ❌ Retro buyers are price-sensitive

2. Cost assumptions (typical, realistic)
   If your real costs differ ±10–15%, pricing still holds.
   Estimated per-unit cost (5k–10k units)
   Item
   Cost (USD)
   Snapdragon 865 board + RAM + storage
   $65–75
   7" OLED 144 Hz panel
   $55–70
   Battery (6000–8000 mAh)
   $12–15
   Controls, shell, cooling
   $18–22
   Assembly & QA
   $10–12
   Packaging & logistics
   $10–15
   Total landed cost
   $170–205
3. The pricing sweet spot (THIS is the answer)
   🚀 Optimal launch price
   USD $299–329
   This is where:
   Sales volume is maximized
   You avoid Steam Deck price comparisons
   You stay profitable even with promos

Stupid chatgpt.
giving stupid answer.
It advise that pocket max sell at 279 dollar. DOA ( dead on arrival)

[nimble isle]

If it's like 250, at this point just get the portal

If it's more than 200 it's dead

[distant sigil]

why would you ask an llm this question

[still ember]

Maybe Mangmi is also asking AI. At least see what is their silly answer.

[nimble isle]

They are not asking AI david

[runic lance]

why would Mangmi ask a llm this question

[nimble isle]

AI has no idea how to price shit

It probably got the costs wrong too

[still ember]

But the ticks and the cross seem reasonable. Really tough for Mangmi.

[still ember]

We are all waiting. Just see how AI price the device.
This tell you that AI can never replace human on this major decisions.

[distant sigil]

I want to know how tight the tolerance on those magnetic units is gonna be, cause it seems like you can just pull them out

[runic lance]

why would Mangmi ask a llm this question

[still ember]

The video seem not so easy, need long nails 🙂

[nimble isle]

I think they knew the rough early bird price they are going to put out even before the production started. What they are doing now is discussing if they should increase it or not. Basically measuring the hype and trying to maximise profit

[distant sigil]

Yeah but would it rattle inside

I imagine you need ideal tolerances for that not to happen, or some kind of screw on the other side, or a magnet?

Right now I have no idea how they're solving this

[slender bear]

You should ask ChatGPT the same question about Ayn Thor specs

[still ember]

If it rattle badly, youtubers like Adin Walls who always rattle the handheld will affect the sales of Pocket Max. I dont think it will rattle. Most important do this modular design increase production cost.

[nimble isle]

Portal which is way better than this is currently $370. I wish base model would still be in stock, I would just buy the base one and be done with it

[still ember]

I think this is how ayaneo price their devices. ask AI.

[slender bear]

This could explain it lol 😄

[still ember]

I dont think it is available anymore. The ram shortage need them to sell device with higher margin.

[nimble isle]

Base has less ram

So it would cost less

[still ember]

I believe it is the profit margin. Normally base product always sell at the lowest profit margin.
MagicX one35 3G model out of stock. why, they basically selling this configure near cost price hint by MagicX luna.

I am really worried that retroid, ayn may reprice their handhelds soon. 🙁

[twin bough]

I think it's gonna be around $200

$199 to be exact
Ngl why would u pick this up for $300

[still ember]

Polling is pointing to Mangmi to price 200 and below.

[twin bough]

Just get the ayn odin 2 at that point

I wish they would've made a six button layout to swap it with

[still ember]

yes i agree

[civic ore]

it would not make much sense to price this above $200

$200 = dead on arrival
~$200 = alright
<$200 = massive hit

[timber gulch]

Depends how expensive a 7inch oled screen is if they can keep it 200 or less.

[mystic jetty]

man, you really make it worth coming on the mangmi chat

round and round in circles with these price estimations

deja vu

[vast coral]

It's worth listening in to his psychotic takes 😄

[mystic jetty]

just for the entertainment factor, absolutely

asking chat gpt had me literally laughing

[mystic jetty]

220 makes sense to me 🙂

unless you know another device at that price point with a 7" OLED 144hz screen that will run my indie steam games?

[nimble isle]

If it's 220 it better come with a screen protector, case and free shipping lmao

[runic lance]

It most certainly won’t cost less than $200

[still ember]

Realistic Early Bird Price Prediction: $185 – $199 USD
If I were positioning the Mangmi Pocket Max, this would be the strategy:
The Sweet Spot ($189): This is the "killer" price. To steal market share from the Retroid Pocket 5 (which launched at $199), Mangmi needs to offer their superior 7" OLED 144Hz screen at a slightly lower entry point.
The Logic: The Snapdragon 865 chip is older and affordable, which offsets the high cost of the premium OLED panel.
The Ceiling ($199): The price cannot exceed $200. If it crosses this line, it loses to the Odin 2 (which is significantly more powerful) or the Steam Deck.
Predicted Pricing Structure:
Super Early Bird: $189
Standard Early Bird: $199
Retail Price: $239
Bottom Line: The target is $199. If they manage to hit $189, it becomes an instant buy due to the screen quality.

from Gemini Pro.
I think these AI LLM are just taking information from discord chats, reedit , retro handheld media and etc.
This AI ignore production cost.
Chatgpt set profit margin too high.

[frail summit]

220 retail is what I'm banking on

[mystic jetty]

too bad they dont give a flying F%^& what your strategy would be

[nimble isle]

For me it would be amazing at 180, tolerable at 200 and hard pass at 220(if no accessories are bundled at that price). I would maybe consider 220 without accessories if I can ask for different colour buttons module or something like that, for example red buttons on black model would look amazing. But 220 early bird with nothing else is getting too close for me to not just pay 370 for portal that is already out and ready to ship and probably will have a bigger battery, obviously way better chip too.

[mystic jetty]

i wouldn't even flinch at 230. But i want it to be 250 rrp 🙂

a well priced device ? nah. i wanna see the shit show in here instead

[runic lance]

You might just be fine. If you order early

[nimble isle]

I would be fine pre-ordering it as soon as it drops given their good record and communication

[runic lance]

As long as it’s not aya neo

go for it

[cursive glacier]

it took 3-4 months from mangmi announcement to delivery

[timber gulch]

They can sell for 220 or slightly higher if its immediate shipping and 4px

[still ember]

Mangmi Air X price increase from 89 to 99 dollar. Must be shortage of ddr4 ram chips.
I am afraid that pocket Max launch price will be affected also. Darm Sad news 🙁

[solemn hollow]

Uff size MEGA

[vast coral]

i can't imagine 10 dollars is going to kill anyone

[wintry mountain]

Could get a pretty nasty papercut tho

And it would all be Mangmi's fault

[novel spindle]

With these absurd price increases, I am proud to say that the best handheld device is the one that you already own, the one that is in your pocket 😉

[obsidian granite]

Exactly , while a few extra bucks wont kill anyone and wont stop people buying something if they really want it but it does make me think of ordering things without asking is this better than something I already have .
Really going to cut back on handhelds until prices stop increasing every month , AI ruins everything

Most people just use AI to make memes and fake videos anyway

[random bear]

Sadly, I have none still

[frail summit]

I've only got original hardware so I'm more or less in the same boat

[proud vector]

Further increasing the value proposition of the one35

Until it too is hit by ramageddon

[vast coral]

they are really dragging their feet with this arent they 😄

[cursive glacier]

it was the same with the Air X, a long time

[sturdy dove]

Its best to consider this to be after Chinese new year

[wintry mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-but-i-want-it-now-gif-26307521

[solemn hollow]

It's gonna be in March I guess

[nimble isle]

By the time it goes to pre order everyone is going to forget about this device. It's fine if they slowly release info keeping the hype going but the price needs to come out soon and it better be right

[distant sigil]

The price almost doesn't matter. Lets say It's going to be 190-220 (most likely outcome), are you happier now?

[vast coral]

david won't be, you bet he'll be curled up into a sad ball 😄

[distant sigil]

It's a 7" handheld for under 220 dollars, there's no one competing in here. I think they chose a good product category.

[vast coral]

but but but 865 underpowered D: /s

[slender bear]

Btw base Odin Portals ade again available from Ayn shop

[distant sigil]

Nice, but it's $300. Still good though

[slender bear]

Yup, but with (probably) much better build quality, good customer support and stronger SOC

[distant sigil]

Ok, there's an argument to go for a device that costs $300. Some people will choose the $200 option though

[slender bear]

of course and its a good thing there a re more options now 😉

[vast coral]

rp6 is 230ish i think?

but yeah, yay options 😄

[sturdy dove]

if they really delay it to march 2026

i REALLY REALLY REALLY HOPE

they scrap the modular function

useless seriously

[mystic jetty]

It really is, but I highly doubt it's scrapped unfortunately

[sturdy dove]

if they really really want change button layout function

they should learn from 8bitdo

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ct2fpcgntzI

[obsidian granite]

Sure I love loosing face buttons make the controller useless

[nimble isle]

Thanks a lot for that. Gonna order that this week instead of the mangmi

[steel spoke]

i really wanted a pro 3 to be basically the pro 2 with hall effect/tmr and a dock

but instead they made everything that was great about the pro 2, removed it....and gave it gimmicks no one asked for

[obsidian granite]

I know pets like dog and cats will end up eating them thinking they are kibble if they fall out and rush over thinking it’s a treat

[random bear]

There is a revised version of the Pro2 that has hall effect sticks, at least

[sturdy dove]

So it induce buying replacement from the company #yourmishapismyprofit

The magnet should be strong enough unless you slam your controller on to the floor

[cursive glacier]

http://youtube.com/post/Ugkxlvubx6VhnmdWGxS-BgdPqs_jb7Nm5-ew?si=eJyGIJFMmN6OcGre

costs rising

[wintry mountain]

[vast coral]

8000 battery is pretty nice but yeah..... this aint gonna be cheap is it

[slender bear]

at least it makes more sense than modular design

[wintry mountain]

"Less waiting."

Yeah Mangmi how much longer we gotta wait?!

[ionic tartan]

230 to 250 now

No question now

120hz 7 inch screen modular design and 8000mAh battery life

[vast coral]

the teasing is going to backfire on them isn't it 😄

[wintry mountain]

Kinda like Anbernic's recent "can you guess what powers it?"

[still ember]

Ha ha. When the specifications seem better. People have alot of fear. Fear that the EB launch price will be greater than 200 dollar.

[wintry mountain]

(I actually love the RG DS and think it feels nicer to hold than the Thor lol)

[ionic tartan]

Yep

[wintry mountain]

I hope they get rid of the modular stuff

Not sure how much that would actually cut the price by, but it would surely have an impact

[still ember]

As long their EB launch price is 179, everything will be okay.

[wintry mountain]

Can't see that happening

[ionic tartan]

179 you are dreaming at the moment

179

Cmon

[still ember]

Yes, everything is top notch except the soc chip.

[wintry mountain]

It's a shame how great this device will be for streaming but it won't be able to use the 6GHz band with the SD 865

[ionic tartan]

Okay let me be quiet before I speak too much

[still ember]

For Air X, most predict to be 90 to 110 dollar. Turn out it is shocking 75 dollar EB.

[vast coral]

No fear on my end because i don't fear anything about fucking handhelds, I'm not 10 😄

[ionic tartan]

All im going to say is it's not 179

Sorry

It's 7 inch

7 inch

[vast coral]

179 is gonna be wishful thinking 😄

[ionic tartan]

Also people forgot about the ram as well

🕺🏾

[wicked lance]

210eb k bye

[wintry mountain]

If it was any other company, with these specs, we'd be expecting around $250

Then again that RP6 with the 8Gen2 is coming out cheaper...

But 144hz 7" OLED with those full size sticks

[vast coral]

Oh no...... a handheld coming out I am mildly interested in might be too much for me at launch. Guess I'll have to play one of the great devices i already own 😄

[wintry mountain]

A fate worse than death

[wicked lance]

Play? Setup and rebox you mean

[wintry mountain]

In FTN's recent AyaNeo Air Mini stream he mentioned that you got one off AKNES and I was like wait didn't that guy get one free cause of his Pocket S2

[wicked lance]

I cancelled my S2 in the end

Too long wait

[wintry mountain]

Ahhh

Damn are people still waiting for their S2s?!

[wicked lance]

Yep. Some only just getting

[wintry mountain]

AyaNeo suck man

[wicked lance]

Free airs still not sent yet for s2 peeps

I got 2 airs from aknes. Both took around 8 days delivery

[wintry mountain]

Hopefully Aknes start stocking some other handhelds cause they seem pretty good!

[wicked lance]

If they get a vert i will grab from them 💯

But ive given up on using IGG now full stop

Not just ayaneo stuff

[wintry mountain]

Yeah, IGG since the redesign have been offputting. I hope AYN don't use them for their next campaign

Not having the shipping charged up front sucks

AYN said the changes were bad for them too

[slender bear]

I feek this handheld will be a disaster for Mangmi

probably it will end up too expensive for anyone to care about it

[wintry mountain]

Yeah, it's looking like it might be that way. Hopefully not!

[vast coral]

can at least wait for us to get all the details before we shit fire all over the device 😄

[slender bear]

But even at $200 even though it will be 30% cheaper than AYN Odin 2 Portal, it still will be a worse deal imho

And somehow I doubt they will be even able to reach the $200 price tag

[vast coral]

true, though in their defense, the logitech g cloud was extremely overpriced and that in the end did okay. Devices still have their niche. Its main competitor is that RP6, 8 gen 2 and oled screen is hard to say no to

though, let's see how retroid does with shipping and QC

[slender bear]

Yeah but G-Cloud was made by a well known brand with good warranty and support, not to mention it was released in 2022, the market changed a lot since then

[vast coral]

indeed it has

tho i think calling this a disaster for mag is too early to call, surely ;D

[slender bear]

I think perhaps it woulkd be bette rto them to use 7 inch IPS and non-modular design than they could make a price really attractive

[vast coral]

we both know if they went with IPS a lot of people will shit their bricks 😄

[slender bear]

I think in general the people that would shit bricks already have their Odin Portals and Odins 3 xD

[vast coral]

i have my odin portal already, yes 😄

[slender bear]

Exactly, not sure if it makes sense to comepete with premium devices if they were released a long time ago already and are more powerful anyway

And to be perfectly honest I'm not even sure if O2P is worth it now, if they will launch Odin 3 Portal in 2026

[still ember]

g cloud over price because logitech is a well known brand.
Mangmi is a newbie company.
It release handheld that is odin 2 portal body with rp5 brain??
is there market for this device?

[vast coral]

maybe 8 elite portal? i dunno. 8 Gen 2's still got the solid balance of everything with good compatibility

Odin 3 Portal probably will be a thing but a lot can happen between now and then. I don't see that being cheap with ram prices skyrocketing

[slender bear]

Lets see what price they will be able to offer, but if its expensive - its a really strange business decision on their part

they should continue what they started with Air X, which I think is selling well for them

If they want to make premium device they should at least use sd8g2 or even better - g3 gen 3

[vast coral]

yeah, i liked the air X or at least what i see from it. This did feel an odd choice

[frail summit]

Dawg at 250 I don't think I can justify it

At that price range I value performance above all else

[slender bear]

alnmost no one can, it will be DOA, thats why I don't understand their business logic

[vast coral]

still, let's not make up random pricings 😄 hopefully they will just hurry the hell up and give us a pricing as this teasing isn't helping them

Hardly any company here can get away with that anymore and certainly not them

[frail summit]

Like the 7" is nice but at 250 bucks the display size becomes irrelevant to me.

[vast coral]

then you'll happily pick up something else, it's not going to kill you 🙂 im not getting this because i have devices that already fufill this niche

[wintry mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/never-alfred-batman-gif-26337878

[slender bear]

they should use pre-existing 8inch IPS made for tablets instead and make it much cheaper imho

[wintry mountain]

It's me I'm people

[frail summit]

Probably a stick top 12GB/256GB RP6.

[vast coral]

an 8 inch handheld.... would be interesting

yeah the rp6 is prob a good option. gotta see reviews and see how retroid handles shipping and QC with this one

[wintry mountain]

8" 16:10 1600p

$179

[vast coral]

now that will require a ton of drugs 😄

[slender bear]

Still more realistic than 7" OLED with 8 inch screen at last they could find some target audience

[wintry mountain]

True would help 'em stand out. I suppose they're hoping the modular controls does that

[vast coral]

the OLED crowd would rather drink paint than use an ips screen again 😄

[slender bear]

But I feel most of the manufacturers don't make any business decisions that make sense

[undone lynx]

The OLED crowd isn't the one looking for budget devices.

[wintry mountain]

I love OLED but I gotta admit I don't mind the IPS screens Lenovo use on the Go S and their Y700 tablets

[slender bear]

Like yeah, exactly modular controls must be one of the worst ideas they could come up with, slightly better than GameMT ideas but still

[wintry mountain]

If you could swap d-pad/stick top/bottom then I'd be down for some modularity. Their current plan tho, it just looks pointless

[undone lynx]

What's this about modular controls?

[slender bear]

at least if they would allow to change the placement of sticks and dpad - maybe it would make more sense, but right now, what is even the purpose of it

[undone lynx]

I thought the pocket max was just supposed to be the Air X but bigger and faster

[slender bear]

lol exactly, 100%

[wintry mountain]

#1448862795788582922 message

[vast coral]

i just got a y700 and really like the screen, it's lovely

[wintry mountain]

I think it's like... You can swap between clicky or mushy d-pad/buttons

[undone lynx]

...I guess it's nice on the repairability front?

Assuming that doesn't introduce connectivity issues in and of itself

[slender bear]

yeah, if you will be able to buy the modules 2 years after release

[wintry mountain]

Lol yeah i'm thinking this is more likely

[undone lynx]

if anything I'd have expected this on the joysticks, those are the moving parts that are more likely to break/warrant replacement for some other reason

[slender bear]

Also I think the magnets are more likely to break than buttons on their own ;D

[undone lynx]

And if it was done in a smart way, you'd then be able to swap between xbox and playstation type layout and even set the dpad on the same side as the face buttons for vertical mode

[wintry mountain]

Rahh 7" tate mode lol

[undone lynx]

Like come on, they stopped two steps short of a great idea

[wintry mountain]

Sounds difficult to balance in your hands lol, would be fun to try it tho

[cursive glacier]

GameHub has cured me of this, cause it takes so bloody long to get something working

[frail summit]

Maybe while resting the device flat it'll work.

[vast coral]

thats why i stopped bothering with gamehub for time being 😄

[civic ore]

https://tenor.com/view/martinlutherking-ihaveadream-gif-4834306

[frail summit]

Dream yes, delusion?

[civic ore]

actually I've had a pretty good number games that were just install and go

but your mileage may vary if you mainly sail the seas

GameHub is more optimized for Steam installs than imported games from what I can gather

[vast coral]

i had that experience too

[muted venture]

Oh wow a psp

[humble ridge]

Yes, hope they do it as soon as possible.

[solemn hollow]

Fingers crossed

[distant sigil]

https://youtu.be/EewTHAzasJc?si=YLmzTZm7HEnIpuAz

22:28 8bitdo ultimate 3E also goes for the same feature (swappable face buttons)

[mystic jetty]

Yes I'm the market thanks for asking

[obsidian granite]

I really don't get all the hype 8Bitdo 3E

[frail summit]

I wanna buy one of these 8bitdo controllers but idk which one

[cursive glacier]

I had the OG ultimate and wasn't that impressed

the shape of the controller was too wide

[sacred totem]

That's a selling point for some.

[cursive glacier]

there are better controllers on the market

https://www.youtube.com/@VKsChannel is probably the best channel for controller reviews

[pliant grail]

The ultimate 2 feels super nice.

[sturdy dove]

why？ i kinda interested.

Although i uses vaper 3 pro atm.

[obsidian granite]

It is neat but block's almost half the screen

[digital igloo]

Wonder if the below is just a retroid issue, would be a bummer if it's due to the sd865 or whatever board partners they are using and if mangmi pocket max is affected.
I can confirm that my rp5 cannot connect successfully to a wifi7 ssid.

https://www.reddit.com/r/retroid/comments/1hvow8n/rp5_not_compatible_with_wifi_7_aps/

https://www.reddit.com/r/retroid/comments/1k9yghj/5ghz_wifi_issue_with_flip_2/

[wintry mountain]

The 865 can't connect to the 6GHz band of Wifi 6e or Wifi 7 routers. It should be able to connect to the 5Ghz band though.

Which is a shame honestly cause this device looks so good for streaming, but plenty of people still stream successfully on 5Ghz, streaming-focused devices like the PlayStation Portal and Logitech G Cloud don't support 6Ghz either

Gotta say tho, locally streaming from my Ethernetted PC to my Odin 3 using Wifi 7 on the 6Ghz band is badasss

[digital igloo]

The rp5 could not connect to 5ghz of a wifi7 network (my own experience), seems like the same for flip 2 based on above Reddit post.

[wintry mountain]

Do you have your bands configured separately yeah?

[digital igloo]

Mine is a Asus be88u, there is no 6ghz support

[wintry mountain]

Man why do they make wifi 7 routers without the 6ghz band wtf lol

Are your 5Ghz and 2.4Ghz bands split?

[digital igloo]

I have 2 ssid, 1 for each, "wifi7 mode" is disabled for the 2.4ghz on purpose due to some super old device I have issue with previously, the rp5 can connect to that but not the 5ghz (wifi7 enabled) one

[wintry mountain]

Damn

[digital igloo]

Didn't try enabling wifi7 for 2.4ghz to test the rp5, no point anyway

[wintry mountain]

For my 5Ghz band, if I connect to it with a wifi 7 Android device, it shows at wifi 7, and if i connect to it with a device that caps at 6 or below, it'll show that instead. I wonder what the issue is with the 865. I sold my RP5 and Mini a while ago so can't check

[digital igloo]

Yep, that's the correct behavior, my pocket air mini, some older wifi5 tablets etc all have no issues, only rp5.
From the retroid discord search I am not the only one. Rp flip 2 should be the same, have not seen it mentioned for mini.

Hoping it's just a retroid issue/some software quirk.

Edit: Seems to work (at least for now) after playing around with the options in rp5 and disabling/enabling wifi7 for my network
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[wintry mountain]

Man that sucks

[random fossil]

looks so nice

[sturdy dove]

FYI

There’s a possibility that your router that Wi-Fi 6 specification uses 802.11ax

While your device uses 802.11ac while it is wifi5.

But some wifi6 router does not offer backward compatibility

[sturdy dove]

What you can do is

Login to your router

Change your bandwidth to use 802.12ac if it was using 802.11ax

Changing it to ac to brings down the speed, but will offer better compatibility for device that cannot support ax

[wintry mountain]

Man the more I learn about networking, the more I realise I don't know lol

I suppose most things are like that!

[mystic jetty]

That seems to be the case. I set up a new router yesterday and had to make sure bandwidth was on the correct one

[sturdy dove]

Most router offer multi band

Old router where they don’t have a lot of option will support n/b/g

[sturdy dove]

Reminds me of the old days where PSP users will buy TP-LINK usb router and uses something like x link kai to play multiplayer lan adhoc

[frail summit]

I love being drip fed information by companies it's so much fun

[worn bay]

LOL

[digital igloo]

in case anyone encounters the same on rp5 or other sd865 devices in future with WIFI7 APs.
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[vast coral]

They really are milking this one aren't they xD

[distant sigil]

They aren't milking it

We're just in the middle of rampocalypse

[solemn hollow]

Sucks man

[still ember]

If they cannot launch at a good EB prices, they must as well delay their launch of the pocket max.

[distant sigil]

david, you're gonna crash out when you'll see EB prices, better to give up early 😁

[nimble isle]

I am following this chat just to see Davids crashout after price reveal

Looking forward to this

[sturdy dove]

They did plan to milk us, but their manboob was brutally grab and squeeze by micron Samsung skhynix

The long silence was probably recovery phase

[vast coral]

yeah far, it probably is just delaying in response to the ram shit. It's unfortunate just wish they would communicate better 😄

[frail summit]

Any day now fellas

Keep er going

[narrow heart]

According to a Pocket Max product tester, review units will be sent out to reviewers this week and they are busy with mass production right now

[north flower]

The hell

Have they even revealed the specs yet

[narrow heart]

We already pretty much know everything except price and release date

[north flower]

Iirc wasn't there a few months in between reviews for the air x and orders being open globally

I imagine it will probably be pretty similar for this

[narrow heart]

Pretty sure they'll ship globally at the same time since Air X international sales are higher than domestic ones...and they want to ship everything out before Chinese New Year next month

[dire charm]

Very interesting 🤔

[distant sigil]

They did

[vast coral]

No price tag yet?

[runic lance]

Not yet

[cursive glacier]

They told me if you didn’t get the call in December then you aren’t getting a review unit.

So no review unit for me.

[frail summit]

Outjerked by Russ yet again

You hate to see it

I don't think there's anyone out there who can outjerk him

[cursive glacier]

there are plenty of bigger youtubers, ETA, Wulff

and arguably better

[frail summit]

ETA

Arguably better

[sturdy dove]

Did I hear ETA?

💀

[wintry mountain]

Me eyeing up a Mangmi Pocket Max when I already have an Odin 2 Portal

[wicked lance]

https://tenor.com/view/slap-hand-slap-stop-it-dont-gif-12605460

In fairness i’m just as bad

[wintry mountain]

I sold loadsa handhelds last year lol

To the point where eBay said they needed my NI number and now I'm hoping I don't get a tax bill at some point after April 2026... Kinda scared to list anything on there right now

[vast coral]

oh no 😄 hmm, if its over £1,000 and you aren't a freelancer than yeah, you'd likely have to register as self assessment

pretty simple process, though

[wicked lance]

Same happened to me 🤦‍♂️🤣

[wintry mountain]

Eep, yeah on top of a load of Anbernic XX devices and Powkiddy ones and stuff, I also sold two GPD devices and a Macbook Pro... I'm hoping that cause I did it all in a fairly short timeframe and I haven't sold anything since, it's pretty obvious I'm not a shop or anything

[vast coral]

hmm, yeah that'll be above the £1k allowance... you prob do need to look into it, just to be safe. Highly unlikely it'll come to you actually paying tax on it as a gig but may be wise. Maybe 😄

[wintry mountain]

This was it...wow it was back in March 2025... So I guess it wasn't for this tax year, but the one from April 2024-April 2025. Wonder how long they take to get in contact

I have 'em my NI number back then anyway.

Maybe I should start listing unwanted handhelds on Vinted instead lol

I've done this questionnaire, it looks like aslong as individual personal items are worth less than £6,000, or a set of items sold to the same person are worth less than £6,000, then you don't need to pay tax https://www.gov.uk/check-additional-income-tax

[vast coral]

hmm you should be ok then 🙂 prob be good to track it going forward tho ^^

[wicked lance]

I have it sometimes where one person will buy a bunch of handhelds/devices i am selling

Pretty sure worth less than 6k though. So should be fine

[nimble isle]

You can sell for local pickup and cash. That's what I usually do if I get close to the tax free limit

If you are near a big city like London, Cambridge etc

Absolutely hate taxes

Doing well avoiding them so far

[wintry mountain]

Oh man I could not think of much I'd rather NOT do than meet strangers in real life lol

Suppose I might make some fellow handheld enthusiast friends if I did... But uh, nah lol

I sold my 3080ti on eBay and the address was like 10 mins walking distance... I still sent it via Royal Mail lol

[nimble isle]

I sell some things on my dad's work marketplace in ARM shop channel

I have to discount them a bit but saves time packing it and shipping

Also cash only so doesn't get counted

[wicked lance]

I do this too. Mingling with general public is like ewwww

🤣

I was also robbed once when I met someone in person on ebay. Years ago. Sold an iphone and got mugged. So never again

[wintry mountain]

I think with eBay even if I sold stuff for cash, they'd still report it to da government

[wintry mountain]

Yeah fuck that man, that's always a risk and I'd much rather not expose myself to that

[wicked lance]

Yeah long story short, reported got it back. But very scary experience. Never again

[frail summit]

What the fuck is this chat

Is this how Europeans do tax evasion

[wintry mountain]

Lmao

Nah we can sell personal stuff, there's no evading of tax going on, but if you sell too much personal stuff on eBay then they tell the government and you might have to prove it

Using 4PX shipping instead of DHL is how we do tax evasion

[vast coral]

as it then counts as self employed income/sole trader, yeah 😄

[lost raptor]

I do my tax evasion through IGG

[wicked lance]

Facebook marketplace is where most do their tax evasion 😅 heard so many stories

[wintry mountain]

Man I closed my facebook account so many years ago... I do get FOMO from hearing about great deals on FB marketplace but not enough to create a new account

[wicked lance]

Yeah i keep my social media to a minimum. FB is not one of them. But they don’t work like ebay. So lots of promises oh I will send you via paypal etc and hoping its all legit.

I considered getting an aya slide via my wifes FB but it all sounded too dodgy. Send money here, i promise to post it etc

[wintry mountain]

Yeah sounds like too much uncertainty for my loves-to-worry brain

[wintry mountain]

Rob have you played Vital Shell yet?

[vast coral]

i havent seen any good deals locally for me on the marketplace 😄

ive heard really good things about vital shell

[wintry mountain]

The gameplay isn't revolutionary or anything, but the PSX-style graphics are a vibe, and my god the soundtrack rules

[vast coral]

im not expecting anything revolutionary but yes 😄

[wintry mountain]

If you have any love for jungle/drum & bass, and have a device with good speakers (Odin 3 is amazing for this), then the game shines

[lost raptor]

I've not and now you put this on my radar!

and apparently someone owns it in my steam family

[wintry mountain]

Nice!

[lost raptor]

I know what I'm trying out tonight

[wintry mountain]

Crank dem speakers when you're playing 😎

[lost raptor]

it looks awesome

[mystic jetty]

Always irks me being referred to as European 😂

[frail summit]

French 🫵

[mystic jetty]

tax ? Never heard of her

English yo

😂

[frail summit]

Equally as unfortunate

[mystic jetty]

Feels that way tbh

This chat has reminded me to fill in my tax tho for last year

Ah look at that I had 20k in expenses … 🙂

[nimble isle]

Yes, don't snitch tho

[civic ore]

https://tenor.com/view/sarcasm-sign-quote-gif-10836119

family

[mystic jetty]

I too have recently joined a steam "family"

Library went from 170 to 1504

https://tenor.com/view/theres-always-room-for-family-family-first-family-is-important-theres-always-time-for-family-household-gif-16055741

[lost raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/love-family-gif-24307274

[vital brook]

1 - do tax evasion
2 - buy property
3- eat well
4- buy retro handhelds

The path of happiness

[north flower]

Solid

[high herald]

now we've just gotta see the price point

[frail summit]

250

Hear ye hear ye

250+ and you shouldn't even look at this thing imo

Unless you really like the beeg screen and streaming

[high herald]

if it's well built and comfortable, i could see it fitting a specific crowd under $300

but yeah id like $250ish

[frail summit]

210 or 220 and we're in business

230 or more and its getting a bit shaky.

250 or more is just a nope for me

[north flower]

Yeah 250 kind of pushing it

I do want to see more of the interchangeable controls though

[frail summit]

At that price you could just get the base Portal which essentially is the same thing but with a better chip

Or the RP6 if you stop caring about the screen specs at that price

[high herald]

yeah exactly

[high herald]

same. i really like the idea of it, and wanna see what they have planned for it

[north flower]

I really hope it's not just a gimmick and they do something cool with it

[frail summit]

It looks likea gimmick

[north flower]

Yeah it might be lol

[frail summit]

Inthe showcase video it didn't look like you could move around the sticks or dpad

Which is kinda the main draw for something like that

[north flower]

Iirc theyre only for the buttons and dpad, so already not off to a strong start

Having the option between dpad top and stick top would've been great

[frail summit]

https://youtube.com/shorts/CXZweipAVK4

Or or or

Hear me out

Put both sticks on top and pretend its a modern day Wii U

[north flower]

Those sticks do look nice ngl

[frail summit]

I think they're full sized

[twin bough]

just go for rp6 at that point

The device might be worth that much depending on the type of customization that u could do

[frail summit]

My personal limit is 250

Cuz that's the price where all I care about is performance.

The 7" screen can't make up for it at that price

But I doubt they'll go 250

[wintry mountain]

These specs suck can we talk about rax evasion again

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

[frail summit]

Tax evasion is key to retro handhelds

How else do you think so many reviewers afford them when they aren't sent for free

[wintry mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/smart-thinking-thoughts-think-ponder-gif-7713620

[still ember]

It will not be 250. I predicted below 200 dollar for EB hopefully I am right.

[nimble isle]

250 is way too close to the portal. Even 230 is too much

[vast coral]

i dont see it being lower than 200 for Eb but i would love to be wrong 😄

[wintry mountain]

$199
$25 shipping

[wicked lance]

This thing will live or die on price 😅

No pressure

[mighty birch]

200 for Early Bird. 250 for Retail.

I was a winner of the Mangmi Air X price prediction contest

Actually more like 199.99 & 249.99

[nimble isle]

Would pass if that's the situation

[cursive glacier]

• $15 each for controller modules

[frail summit]

Fuck

[mighty birch]

Not a fan of the controller modules. Just adds unnecessary cost. Thats why this time around, I don't think it will be as cheap as most people think

[frail summit]

Onefiddy tops

[north flower]

They should offer a barebone model with just the sticks

[frail summit]

80 bucks

No buttons no dpad, no triggers

Just stick

[obsidian granite]

About the modular controllers , When you rearrange from Nintendo to Xbox layout do the reorient or are they skewed in the wrong direction ?
It would trigger me if they didn't

[digital igloo]

Was it confirmed they are offering different layout for the buttons?
Though it's just the type/feel

[wintry mountain]

Yeah it's just swapping from clicky or mushy I think, not swapping from xbox to nintendo

[frail summit]

Thats the thing I dont get about it

Cuz 9 outta 10 times there's an option on the top down menu to let you swap them

It didn't need modularity for that

And judging from the fact that it looks like you can't even swap the sticks has the modularity deep into gimmick territory

[mystic jetty]

Nah, I'll get the pocket max instead

[mystic jetty]

Predicted, or asked chat gpt for an analysis?

8000mah though, called it. Should be a great device for my indie steam games

[frail summit]

Well I feel like we can rule out 250 as a possibility

Because realistically speaking if youre spending that kinda cash you wanna get the best with what you can afford.

[wintry mountain]

Ooh review unit on its way shortly to the RH crew

Source: http://youtube.com/post/Ugkx5x59w1-XXmdjGbZJ5NrAS3_gIs2cxFAM?si=mYXTZo8yamDs4UEK

I hope this doesn't follow the same pattern as the Air X where reviewers had 'em months before pre-orders even openes

[worn bay]

Still waiting for the most important spec of all

Can you guess what that is

[frail summit]

Hmm

Does it rhyme with Bryce

[worn bay]

Maaaaaaaybe

[wintry mountain]

I remember Joey leaked the price last time cause Mangmi didn't tell him not to lol. I bet they're a bit more clear with reviewers this time 'round

[frail summit]

What'd he say it was?

That's the newscast from 3 months ago if i'm not mistaken. That's also where the 865 came to light.

[wintry mountain]

He said it would be $79 I think, can't remember now, you can go check his videos tho

[frail summit]

He said 140 or 150 IF they decide to make it budget

Which means no oled screen

And well

Y'know what we got

[wintry mountain]

Ah, when I said he leaked the price "last time", I meant for the Mangmi Air X

[ionic tartan]

He need to do it again

[still ember]

He wont because this time he wont know ???

[dire charm]

Hoping this as well 😂

We'll let you all know the price as soon as we learn

Not seeing any embargo on this so far

[sturdy dove]

Does this mean Joey can leak price again?

[solemn hollow]

😂😂😂

[mystic jetty]

He may very well be, because I know the price..

[still ember]

Really?? So is it above or below 200 dollars?

[obsidian granite]

They don't know

Hopefully under but I lost my hype for this anyway

[sturdy dove]

If it’s very cheap, it’s good idea to get one.

[cursive glacier]

150 then?

[nimble isle]

Chat gpt surely knows the price

Ask Gemini too

[wintry mountain]

I asked grok but it just put the Mangmi Pocket Max in a bikini

[nimble isle]

@grok remove the button modules and show those connectors

And grok would say that the handheld is too old and he wouldn't do it. Undressing service available only to pre release models

[still ember]

As of January 21, 2026, Mangmi has not officially announced the exact launch price or a firm release date (though full specs were recently shared via their YouTube and social channels, and it's teased as "coming soon"). However, based on consistent reporting and speculation from reliable retro handheld sources (like Retro Handhelds, Android Authority, Liliputing, and others):

The most commonly estimated/expected retail price is around $200.
Some outlets describe it as a potential "$200 giant killer" due to the premium OLED + strong specs at a budget price point.
There's optimism (especially in community discussions on Reddit and Discord) for an early bird/pre-order price in the $150–$175 range, given Mangmi's history of aggressive pricing (e.g., their previous Air X launched around $99–$100).
It's hard to imagine it dipping under $200 due to the AMOLED screen, 8GB RAM, and current component costs, but market saturation in the ~$200 Snapdragon 865 segment (e.g., competing with Retroid Pocket Mini V2 or similar) could push them to price competitively.

Yes, Ask Grok for an estimated launch price. It mentions below 200 dollar.

[vast coral]

sure let's use AI for dumb questions rather than just waiting for confirmation 😄 grok's answer tells us fuck all

[daring solstice]

[runic lance]

Surely they’ll just drop the price by the end of the month

[still ember]

No AI just read thru the web site and also our discord website.
They know that below 200 dollar is popular price quote in this discord.

[runic lance]

Let’s not guess and think to much about it

[vast coral]

I'm mostly here for the eventual chaos when the price does get revealed 😄

[still ember]

It is like RGDS all expected t620 chipset or x4 integer scaling and at the end nothing at all although leak chat mention t620.

Everyone in RGDS discord are so disappointed.

[vast coral]

good to see that your emotional investment in that song and dance is still high 😄 that was entertaining

[mystic jetty]

Everyone? I wasn't. I know many who are completely Happy with the RG DS.

[ivory portal]

$229 makes sense to me due to screen

[cursive glacier]

$279 John Mangmi wants to collect

[frail summit]

Silvia Mangmi*

I don't think anyone's buying it the moment it crosses 250

Atp you can just spend extra and get the base Portal which is essentially the same thing as the PM but with a much better chip

[nimble isle]

And no module bs which is bound to fail at some point

Portal is proven favourite in this community, there tons of reviews, accessories etc

This is a relatively new company, device is on pre order, if early bird is even 30-40% less than the base portal which is ready to ship right now its still going to be a difficult choice

Given the chip

Early bird has to be 200 or below with 220-230 when regular price kicks in. Call it delusional but from the point of the consumer it's the only price that makes sense

[still ember]

Happy with RGDS. Thats good.

[vast coral]

prob not delusional but yeah, 200/220 is the most likely

[still ember]

they will not sell 200, it will be 199 ( just 1 dollar below 200)

[vast coral]

That module thing does give it a niche but I agree it feels a little weird and too much a risk for me

[still ember]

But repairability if the dpad or button with issue will be easier just replace them.

[obsidian granite]

What if they go after a year and they stop making them ? At least if internal you might be able to find replacement parts but not the entire module

[mystic jetty]

Many are, if you don't watch youtube reviewers and let them dictate what you like and don't like

It's a personal preference thing I suppose, kinda like the anbernic 351MP and 353M, people said they're too heavy and didn't like them. Me? I like the weight and the metal makes it feel superior to me. I don't have stick arms so never noticed the extra weight to deter from the experience, only enhance

[mystic jetty]

Most likely? Yes. But 250 would be better purely for the shit show that'll take place here.

[frail summit]

Mainly from David tbh

If its 250 I'll just wait for the Flip 3 or get the RP6 instead

[mystic jetty]

Oh absolutely, I just didn't want to mention names 👀

[cursive glacier]

cmon 269.99, let's make it happen

[mystic jetty]

269.99 STERLING

[cursive glacier]

now we are talking

[sturdy dove]

Okay I will give a good reason why they are not releasing price

The most simple reason being that ram and nand pricing is still increasing while we talk, releasing a price now will cause them to make a lost if they sell it too cheaply while cost kept on increasing when they continue to purchase more chip to make more device

As I think they are planning to make this a long run selling device instead of a one shot/batch kickstarter sale

For one, I have lost interest in this device. Not because the device is bad, but because of the whole rammageddon or nandmageddon.

The releasing timing is sooooo bad that every stuff price is increasing, and it is still going to continue to increase further, business are not going to be sustainable if their profit margins get crushed by ongoing and increasingly expensive internal chips.

In the end, it is us consumers that is going to shoulder this AI bullshit artificial shortage and price hike.

Even Nands manufacturers like Kioxia are cutting their nand production.

This artificial shortage to drive up the price and scalpers buying ram, SSD, NVME Storage, really spells like doomsday for us as consumers

This shit should be illegal

Someone from my friend circle(friend of friend, he is an executive and have authority to purchase internally with staff pricings) brought 50-100 piece of NVME storage and flex on his tech circle.

PS : this MF profited about 80k USD during HDD shortage due to chia coin farming.(why I know? He flex his newly purchased sports car)

[still ember]

Actually, I prefer them to hold back their release of pocket max in this ram shortage situation. But I believe that they need more than 1 handheld to survive. Thats is a likelihood they may secure their spare parts already therefore their EB launch price maybe great but not retail prices.

[narrow heart]

https://youtu.be/5JbWZDQ9Lf4

[digital igloo]

Colours look kind of odd/off to me, hopefully it's the video

[wintry mountain]

Why is the video at like 2x speed lol

[novel spindle]

Other Handhelds of 2026:
Here's the native Cyberpunk 2077 and PC Gameplay, it's improving day-to-day

Mangmi Pocket Max: Ohh btw, you can stream all those games here

[sturdy dove]

No, the longer they drag out the the longer they lose.
We have few situations

Situation A

mangmi already secured parts for manufacturing, so they are currently cooking for nand and ram price to raise further than raise their launching price to justify its their cost that increased

Situation B

mangmi have trouble sourcing more parts for their new product release, and the increasingly more expensive parts makes searching harder, unless they just buy the most expensive parts and transfer the cost to us as consumers. But the longer you wait, the worst it becomes.

Situation C

mangmi has currently having trouble pricing their product due to volatile pricing costing of their product, so they just postpone everything and not doing anything nor sourcing for material. And they just drip feeding you guys for fun.

[oak tiger]

why is the first gameplay video of games streaming? is this in any way special these days lol? 😅

[solemn hollow]

They could have run hollow knight natively and the latency would have been even better

Especially the android port

[distant sigil]

Higher end snapdragon chips have low decoding times, plus you'd want to play actual PC games on that 7" display instead of squinting your eyes at 5-5.5" displays. So streaming is a big focus on that one

[solemn hollow]

Will be doing my top 5 favourite PC games to play on the air X today ;⁠-⁠)

[sturdy dove]

The decoding time sure is impressive, but the problem is I am far more interested in BFI CRT render 120fps retro gaming on a large 7 inch screen to scratch my retro itch

[wintry mountain]

Yeah, I wonder if we'll be able to set the 144hz to 120hz. I know some screens you can and some you can't.

[still ember]

I believe it is possible, to set 144hz, 120hz and even 60hz for simple retro games.

[wintry mountain]

Not on all screens unfortunatley. Legion Go and Legion Go 2 for example can only be set to 60hz or 144hz. That's why the Legion Go S is preferred for Retro emulation cause with its 120hz screen you can do BFI or CRT Beam with 60fps games

But then the RG476H can be set to 60, 90, or 120

[narrow heart]

A Mangmi rep confirmed that the display can be set to 60, 90, 120 and 144Hz, so BFI is possible

[wintry mountain]

Sick 🎉

[still ember]

https://youtu.be/my3NMQKo09Y

From video, it mentions 1500 yuan so it is 215 dollar before shipping.
Dont know it is retail or EB launch price.

[narrow heart]

That video and source don't mention any actual prices, still just speculation for now

[vast coral]

possible that 1500 yuan isn't international pricing but yeah, let's see

[still ember]

maybe 1500(215) is the upper limit of the launch price.

[daring solstice]

Dude you're way too optimistic.

[slender bear]

I'm happy about the price, probably I would buy it if it was cheap and now I will save some money:D

[vital brook]

It's funny because both Hades 2 and Silksong are very playable on Eden with the SD865 lol

[vital brook]

$215 is a pass from me , too close to the RP6 price imo

[vast coral]

dont worry when it's revealed to be 250 he will lose his shit 😄

[north flower]

I mean for 250 who's buying this, just a thor lite situation at that point

Base portal is only $50 away since ayn basically has a permanent $30 off coupon on that

[frail summit]

If its 250 I'm gonna wait for the Flip 3 or just get the RP6

[vital brook]

Tbf , depending on the price and chip i'd even get that Trimui Brick Pro over this lol

[still ember]

Yes, It is all these various devices around 220-300 that will be competing with pocket max attention as Alternate to Pocket Max. If launched at below 200 dollars, pocket max will be able to gain more attention.

[obsidian granite]

It will not be below $200

Either way Im off the hype train as the more I thought about the modular controls the more I hated the idea

[nimble isle]

The more I think about this device, the more I want the portal

[winged hornet]

Personally, I don’t really have trouble adapting to the face button letter layout of either Xbox or Nintendo. It would make more sense if we could swap the positions of the D-pad and joystick like on the Ayaneo 3, if it really has to be modular.

[vast coral]

excellent, so you should 😛 it's beautiful

[nimble isle]

I don't like the glass front on both devices and thinking about if I even need it at this point, I already have the astra for streaming, I am not trying to end up with 100 devices like some in this server. Its a difficult decision because I want to try it but at the same time it doesn't add anything to my setup that I don't already have

[vast coral]

ooh the astra, nice 😄 no sd card slot was what turned me off that

[nimble isle]

I have 512gb model which fits my entire library if I wanted to, in reality I play 1-3 games at a time so there is 0 storage pressure on the storage for me. What annoys me is the position of USBC port and how expensive this thing is, I have to be so careful with it, it's more expensive than my laptop and phone combined

Also resolution and aspect ratio is not very well suited for streaming imo but it's good enough

[vast coral]

i forget how much the Astra is but that is an inexpensive laptop/phone combination 😄

[solemn hollow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SBCGaming/s/EHrLRgG8PB

Quite please imo

[nimble isle]

£540

[mystic jetty]

£449 on amazon

£439 12/256 - £559 16/512 - £739 24/1TB

I need to find a video on how big the difference is between 12gb and 16gb in gamehub

[nimble isle]

I wanted to be secure on storage because it doesn't have SD card

I paid around 540 for a used on Amazon bundled with G8+

[vast coral]

That's decent price

[mystic jetty]

Okay I didn’t know about the no micro sd in that .. that’s a bummer man

There probably is going to be a difference in 12 and 16gb for the higher end games on Gamehub side of things

I honestly see my self getting a mini tablet over a handheld next year..

[nimble isle]

I didn't really test pc emulation because I literally just built a 9070xt 9800x3d pc setup, whatever astra can play from pc catalogue my pc can stream to it 100 times better

[mystic jetty]

That’s a dope setup my man . My friend just picked up a 9070xt for a bit over 500 I think but he refuses to pay the price for a 9700x3d

[vast coral]

tablets are pretty damn nice to mess around with

I only really got into them last year

[wicked lance]

Tablet gaming is epic. I wish more people would get into it. Niche within a niche. 😅

[mystic jetty]

absolutely. once you start streaming or gaming on a screen that's over 9" and beautiful, it can be quite difficult to return back to a 5.5/6" handheld 🙁

[mighty birch]

I'm not as confident in this device. They paired a budget chip with a expensive 7 inch OLED screen & modular buttons. It falls between a awkward pricing segment. 200+ for something weaker than SD8G2 is a hard sell.

[distant sigil]

If you'll just look at big screen handhelds, this would be as appealing of an option as odin 2 portal. It will find success, just not universal

[mighty birch]

I mean our hobby is niche already. If a device can't find success within Retro Handhelds community, then its screwed

Especially if they plan to sell for low price/low margins, they need to sell alot of units like Air X.

[digital igloo]

Would prefer an even weaker/cheaper chip (but relatively new for good WiFi and video decoding) as an option for streaming only, but guess not a large enough market for them.

[undone lynx]

Plot twist: they somehow manage to price it at $180

[mystic jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-leonardo-dicaprio-inception-wake-up-gif-19107281

[cursive glacier]

$150

but every panel has dead pixels

[vast coral]

That too 😄 I got my 2023 Legion model a couple of weeks ago for £165 and it's been a delight

[pine birch]

Don't know if this was speculation on his part, but Joey mentioned a potential price range of 200-230 dollars.

[sturdy dove]

ou well time to buy odin 2 portal

[vast coral]

That does look nice

[wintry mountain]

I hope the face buttons are quiet. I love my Odin 2 Portal but god damn them buttons

[frail summit]

Jeez the 865 just keeps surprising me.

[vast coral]

its prob not optimal for long term play but yeah the 865 is solid

[narrow heart]

Unboxing video: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1rGzQBCEUy/

[frail summit]

Well I plan on getting a switch anyway so the the fact it can even do it is impressive enough for me

[vast coral]

oh yeah it's fun to tinker with 🙂

[wintry mountain]

Yooo it's the guy with the badass fleece from the Retroid Pocket 6 review. He's my fav Chinese reviewers he's got the garms

Those sticks look gooood

Thick, full-sized stems

[vast coral]

oh those are nice looking sticks

[frail summit]

Hmm do I stick to my guns and get black as I always do or get the retroGB color

It looks really good

[wintry mountain]

(assuming the price is right) I think I'll go white

[frail summit]

I think I'll go with RetroGB

Assuming the price is sweet

[vast coral]

still annoying that we still don't know the price of this 😄

[wintry mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/puppet-red-ball-soon-gif-13188418

[nimble isle]

But look at this black model with those red RGB rings around sticks

It's so good

Once you go black you never go back

[wintry mountain]

Black's nice yeah but I already have a black Odin 2 Portal, so fancy a change

[nimble isle]

Why do you want this device if you have the portal already ? It's literally the same but worse chip or am I missing something

[wintry mountain]

Only if the price is in impulse buy territory 😅

[nimble isle]

I am in the same boat honestly

If eb is below 200 I would buy just to try this out

[wintry mountain]

Yeah, can always just sell it afterwards

[nimble isle]

There is absolutely 0 possibility it will be better than my astra but I still want to try this form factor

[wintry mountain]

There is one thing this looks like it'll do way better than the Portal - the sticks. They're nice and big, but also appear to have a metal ring around the stem, which will stop scraping. My Portal's sticks' stems scrape against the outer ring and it's really annoying. Even happens with new Sakura sticks I bought. And it's started happening on my Odin 3 too 🙁

I don't feel like I'm very rough with them... But I do play a lot of survivors-like games like Brotato and Vital Shell, where basically you are just using the left stick the entire time

[nimble isle]

Didn't know Odin 3 already shipped to people

[wintry mountain]

I ordered within minutes of the IGG campaign going live and got it a few days before Christmas

[nimble isle]

Can't wait for official release of the custom drivers

For the elite

It's going to be so good

[tough fulcrum]

Yeah they've already started shipping batch 3, mine arrived about a week and a half ago. Seems like rainbows ship out a little faster for some reason

[vast coral]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-angry-kid-congrats-nice-happy-for-you-gif-16045257244806990422

the astra looks so nice 😄 pretty happy with my legion gen 2 tho

[nimble isle]

I was considering y700 but I saw a video comparing the screens side by side, decided to get the Astra with all it's disadvantages, this screen is just too good

https://youtu.be/FMMyj4uQwiQ?si=s4jvLAG-bGMLw-Io

When he puts each tablet up close

There is a huge difference