Anbernic RG476H

[unborn lintel]

rg40xxv is kinda the sweetspot

I guess they could go a little taller with the screen though

would make sense anyway cause verticals originated from the gameboy

[frigid sequoia]

Yeah if we could get a screen as wide as the 4” 4:3 but closer to 8:7 or even 1:1 I’d be happy

[mint venture]

don't let Retroid hear you or they'll take out the scissors again

[dark laurel]

https://youtube.com/shorts/0ZqTP_cm_8Q?si=9BCWQm93T13DkP7a

[echo cargo]

Seems weird they keep using “full screen” when you can see small bezels clearly

[mint venture]

aha! I knew they had to have sent review units already

there's always that one dude that doesn't give a shit about the embargo

yeah I don't know how I feel about the black borders around the screen on that color

[balmy mulch]

fullscreen*
-# only available on the black color

[upbeat yoke]

fullscreen as in none of the screen is hidden behind the faceplate, we even have a bezel to show that it's the full screen right there

[mint venture]

I tried to raise this issue on Reddit and got downvoted to hell with a bunch of "no it doesn't have any borders" comments

[wide finch]

It’s Reddit what do you expect?
If you have your own opinions and not part of the hive mind your a nazi or bigot.
As for the 476H it’s kind of growing on me but still waiting to see the Pocket Air Mini specs.
The best thing that this has going for it is the screen

[velvet nebula]

Just realized this is almost exactly what the fan mockup of the rp2s XL looked like

I knew I’d seen it somewhere before

[peak chasm]

I predict mid next week (around 16th) and going on sale on sept 23d

[compact crystal]

This would have been so much better without this full glass front… and probably cheaper!

[unborn lintel]

eehh

I'm not sure it would have been that much cheaper

[hasty turtle]

I like it! but didn't think it'd be that big

[unborn lintel]

should be around the size of a 3ds xl

[hasty turtle]

😮

[upbeat yoke]

I’m actually stoked by how big it looks

Going to be a great size for a 4:3 console

[hasty turtle]

I guess so, too

[timber tangle]

I just want confirmed specs on this and the new Aya. Trying to determine which is for me.

Those two and the Magic H40 or H50 I think. Their naming has me a bit lost. But trying to pick between that bunch.

[bronze jolt]

All the specs are confirmed for this

[ember isle]

Isn’t this an RG406H in a new shell?

[kindred carbon]

is the T820 powerful enough for high quality shaders and BFI on 2D systems?

[twilit edge]

Check Retro Game Corps video on the RG Slide. He would have deffo tested that

[brittle pelican]

the screen is different

[cold flint]

Given that this is Anbernic's first attempt at an all-glass front handheld, what do ya think the likelihood is that in a month or two after release we'll start seeing units with the corners of the glass lifting up or the whole darn glass panel just falling off entirely?

[wide finch]

Pretty good

Hope not but it will probably happen

[cold flint]

It truly would be the return of the RG405M then.

[echo cargo]

I’d say less likely since they are probably using the same technology/manufacturers everyone else has been using. I’m also not saying I’d bet money on it 😅

[spark agate]

What weight is this? Hoping it’s well under 300g

[placid thorn]

the glass panel/screen lamination will be handled by another company anyway, so very unlikely tbh

[spark agate]

The 477 is a tank

[nocturne sparrow]

Bro the 477M could classify as a lethal weapon

That thing is dense

[mint venture]

we don't know yet

but I'm hoping it's under 300g as well

[unique forge]

yes

the t618 was powerful enough for those shaders, so the t820 is also capable.

if you've missed, ignored, or filtered all media and conversation about the t820 and have no idea what it is/does compared to the last major unisoc, here.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/T9100-T820-vs-T618_14598_12997.247596.0.html

If for some reason you need to comfirm your hypersuperstition that you're missing out by not grabbing a dimensity 1100 device(aka the rp4pro).
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Tangula-T820-vs-Dimensity-1100_14598_13242.247596.0.html

[kindred carbon]

thanks!

[shrewd prairie]

wtf did they test

its rofl site, like i sayed before

[velvet nebula]

Does anyone know if GammaOS is coming to this?

[frigid sequoia]

Probably depends on whether anbernic sends him one

[velvet nebula]

I’ll wait for gamma to fix the screen and likely pick one up discounted in a few months

[peak chasm]

Apparantly last week ca. 25 rg477M’s were flying above poland on their way to Ukraine.

[compact crystal]

We'll know more soon!

[mint venture]

hell yeah, let's go baby

[modern heart]

Looking forward to this as a possible 405m replacement. 477 was too heavy and awkward to hold.

[unique forge]

was the 477m as heavy as the win600?

[balmy mulch]

neato

[oak umbra]

I think i'll get one in retro DMG for my birthday. The color looks neat and i like the chip for GC / Wii

[dark laurel]

https://youtu.be/87sLIS5vvTs?si=9DpJ7iL5mp2OqVf3

[fleet stag]

Ok, I can't decide, which color to get. I'm torn in between black and purple. Purple is a bit unfortunate, that it doesn't have the exact GC color scheme with the yellow right stick and the face buttons being gray, red and green only, but still looks good. Black seems to go best with the premium all glass front, which is a more modern look.

Retro gray is cool, too, but I don't like the small black bezel around the screen.

[random viper]

Yeah wth, that’s odd- anyone got any insight why that is.

[hasty turtle]

I like the purple one best and am for one glad it doesn't exactly follow the GC color scheme

and I already have a retro gray CubeXX

[fleet stag]

Yeah, true. I think I just want it follow the exact GC color scheme, because I don't own such a handheld in the exact GC color scheme, yet.

But I think this time I'll go with black. Mostly I find black devices to be boring, it's so standard, but this one looks premium and goes well with the all glass front, as I said.

[hasty turtle]

I guess I'm done with black glossy premium devices as I had a rp5 and the fat PS Vita 😛

[brittle pelican]

I have a GC RP5 and I regret it a bit

also a white Pocket S

I feel like these glass front devices all look best in black

I preordered odin3 in black

[fleet stag]

I think so, too!
And it would be my very first all glass front device beside my Vita handheld. So, I think it should be the right choice for me.

[oak umbra]

It's the design imo , i think they wanted it to have the retro look of the GB

[mint venture]

300g

this won't be super lightweight sadly

but at least it's not metal

[oak umbra]

I never saw the appeal on metal handhelds

[mint venture]

I hate it

the retro gray is the only color I like here but they had to go and ruin it with an artificial bezel

[compact crystal]

Smooth PS2

[random viper]

Agreed

[oak umbra]

GB bazel gang rise up

I can't stand bezels on a white device but it looks cool on DMG ( for me )

Imagine hating us so much that you added that black bezel here

[bronze jolt]

300g seems heavy

[upper kelp]

Hmm

https://youtu.be/8NfTTpgDSzc

Im actually think about getting think

Mainly cause I want a dedicated 4:3 handheld that I can use for BFI and such

[unreal cobalt]

Interesting times for 4:3 consoles. Never thought I'd say this but I'm leaning more towards the Ayaneo Pocket Air Mini over the RG476H because it's got a bezel and a smaller screen.

[upper kelp]

I wanna see what the price for the AyaNeo is first

[twilit edge]

AliExpress Fall Sale starts in 8 hours. Hopefully it lasts until this launches so we can use some coupons

[bronze jolt]

The pocket air mini is more appealing but the lack of chip info is getting tiresome 😂

[twilit edge]

Russ said it launches in "about a week" and I think the Ali Express sales last that long too, so we could get lucky, at least for the first few hours

[mint venture]

idk to me fake bezels look worse than real bezels

[unreal cobalt]

Fake bezels still better than no bezels IMO

[unreal cobalt]

As long as it plays up to PSX (which it will most definitely will), that's good enough for me.

[bronze jolt]

Think I’ll be looking to dc

[pliant barn]

Yeah as long it can go up to at least GameCube 1x I'm happy

[unreal cobalt]

I just want a device to play my GBA games. I've got the RG406V and it still doesn't feel "right" to me.

[placid thorn]

man, Anbernic needs to hurry it up

[echo cargo]

This might be the only way I get it now 🤞🏻

[frigid sequoia]

I’m curious what feels wrong to you there

You looking for something like the 34xx?

[mint venture]

turns out the fake bezel was used before: on the white rg slide

but for some reason it looks better there than in the retro gray rg476h

[unreal cobalt]

Maybe. But with a bigger screen of course. I have the RP Mini and playing GBA games on it is a struggle for my eyes. When I played GBA games, it was on the original GBA. Never had the SP growing up so as much as I prefer vertical consoles for everything else. Just for the GBA, verticals don't feel right.

[twilit edge]

I'd get something with a 16:9 screen. 3:2 looks great on those. Trimui Smart Pro, or if you're feeling fancy, a Retroid Pocket 5

[pliant barn]

damn looking at the purple gc unit in the video made me wanna go for that over the black one lol

the bezel almost looks bezelless like the RP5

maybe only the retro color has the fake bezel

[unreal cobalt]

I already have a Flip 2. Playing GBA on a 16:9 screen (aspect ratio kept) feels even more off to me lol

It’s a tough one. Hopefully this or the Pocket Air Mini will end my search for a console that feels right

[twilit edge]

Tell you what, 3:2 fills up even more of the screen of a 16:10 panel! Steam Deck or Legion Go S... GBA is massive on those. Which uh, may not be exactly what you want I guess lol, but it looks sweet

[mint venture]

sounds like you want something that's bigger than 3.5" but smaller than 5.5"; probably the rg476h is up your alley then

[unreal cobalt]

Pretty much what I’m hoping for. Either this or the Pocket Air Mini

[mint venture]

the Pocket Ace might also be a consideration if you have money to burn

[placid thorn]

that ain't money to burn but an investment in the best GBA experience

XU40 H44 may be a less expensive option coming up soon (November)

[still goblet]

Best gba experience is a y700 or legion go

[twilit edge]

I had a 1440p Pocket S for a bit and integer scaled GBA on that was a religious experience

[mint venture]

well now I have to bring up the RG552 again

[placid thorn]

that thing is kinda amazing but simultaneously sucks so hard

[brittle pelican]

I have a RG476H - AMA

[mint venture]

I like to describe it as the best worst handheld

[mint venture]

how does it compare to the rg477m in terms of feel? does it feel noticeably lighter/more comfortable?

[twilit edge]

How many weeks have you had it?

[primal grove]

its.... such a weird fucking device isnt it 😄 i dont regret mine but argh

[brittle pelican]

yes, lighter and less chonk, the ergos are good

the triggers are the smoothest anbernic have ever made

better than rg556 style which could be a bit scratchy

[brittle pelican]

no comment

[twilit edge]

When's the first stream?

[unique forge]

why does that matter

[brittle pelican]

I haven't watched RGC's video so sorry for repeating but I will say a few points I liked about this:

triggers - as above, smoothest anbernic triggers with the right amount of travel
screen - if you've seen the screen you'll know already how good it is, it's the same one
chip, fan etc. - I've been using it on auto/high and never needed the fan on, so it's always quiet
sticks - same as rg477m, recessed and cap can be removed/changed
weight - same as my iphone max with a case

[brittle pelican]

not for a while, I am finally moving out next week

I need a bit of time to decorate, buy a table, a chair
I shipped all my lighting, camera stands etc. from Hong Kong though

[placid thorn]

nobody knows how heavy a fucking iPhone Max with a case is

but yeah 300g

[brittle pelican]

about 300g apparently 😂

[mint venture]

which color did you get? can we get some photos going?

[brittle pelican]

weather/lighting is bad here

4:3 device, I've been mostly playing ps1/ps2 on it

there was a complaint about clicky bumpers I think? this was my feedback as well

[late isle]

With the 476h or the 477m?

[brittle pelican]

rg476h

I think they are similar

[late isle]

Oooh

That’s unfortunate

[brittle pelican]

to be honest, there's not a lot to say about this device - it's kind of "boring" in a way

but I think there's something good about that, the quality level is what you expect, it's an easy recommend if you want the screen

hopefully they hit a good price point and I'm hoping it's on the lower end of T820 so they are competitve with other recent releases

[placid thorn]

which is close to the RP5 (280g), rg505 (285g), Powkiddy x28/x55 (295g), Flip 2 (300g), ACE (310g) or Odin 2 Mini (320g), a little more than the 406h (265g) and a little less than the 477m (360g)

[brittle pelican]

I can't remember which company did this, but they had like rubber nipples on the bumper activation spot to make them quieter

DIY, I guess some people will put tape over them

[placid thorn]

it was already said to be $165 with $150 EB, but guess we don't have an official announcement yet?

[brittle pelican]

I know the launch details but I don't want to confirm because these things can change last minute

[primal grove]

its anbernic so im expecting it'll be on the high end, then everyone will complain about price for several weeks ;D

[mint venture]

personally all I wanted was the screen of the rg477m in something that doesn't have the chonk of the rg477m due to the metal

so it sounds like this hits the mark

[twilit edge]

Yeah I had the Slide but didn't like the ergos. Didn't want a metal handheld either so the 477M was no good. I'm very tempted by this, although I wish it had the grips of the 406H.

[brittle pelican]

I don’t know why but I like the ergos of this more than the Pocket S

even though the design is quite similar

[mint venture]

Pocket S is heavier no? that might be why

[brittle pelican]

could be, I needed the grip for the pocket s to be usable

[unborn lintel]

nope, y700 is analog on top

pretty hard to call it the best gba experience that way

[still goblet]

Not really, most telescopic controllers have enough grip and inset that dpad centric gameplay still feels comfortable

[unborn lintel]

not as comfortable as holding a retroid pocket 5 with a grip peobably

[brittle pelican]

Russ mentioned the side front edges are "sharp" - this is a non-issue for me. Actually I gave Anbernic feedback to say the sides were really comfortable, mostly because of the curved plastic back.

[mint venture]

can you ask them to remove the black bezel on the retro grey model

that's really my only nitpick so far

[brittle pelican]

I asked them why it's like that and I wasn't given any info...

[remote timber]

So they gave the more powerful handheld the inline shoulder buttons and the weaker one stacked?
Yeah, that tracks.

[placid thorn]

yeah, tracks perfectly well, because doing those bumps on metal would be expensive, but it's easy on plastic molds

[late isle]

Damn you’re right

[mint venture]

it seems they went for the same style as the white rg slide but it doesn't really work as well here

[frosty swallow]

I wish all devices curved or radiused the front edge. Id take a plastic curved edge over all glass any day.

[late isle]

Like the pocket ace?

[late isle]

Like this?

[frosty swallow]

That looks good

Except the sticks but honestly don't use the sticks mich anyway

[late isle]

Stickless horizontals are a rare breed these days

[thorny musk]

This looks pretty damn good! I’ll wait for an AliExpress sale if I decide to replace RP mini

[turbid urchin]

It's sad how much this shoulder buttons are clicky...

[velvet nebula]

Such a great device

[velvet nebula]

Instant turn off. I couldn’t stand the clicky shoulder buttons of the rp2s.

[spark agate]

How is it possible the grey model has bezels if it uses the same screen and chassis size? Have they cropped the screen by adding bezels over it?

[balmy mulch]

I doubt they cropped the screen, they probably just modified the shell instead

why? who knows lmao

no big deal to me cause I've never liked those colorways but it's such a weird choice to make

[hasty turtle]

I've heard it's intentional bc they think it goes more with the theme of the design

[peak chasm]

😳

Heavy

[bronze jolt]

Yeah it’s weird

[shrewd prairie]

metal vs plastic 60g win yeay

[hasty turtle]

is the glass that heavy?

[shrewd prairie]

not really

i have no clue how it can be that heavy

[still goblet]

Rg406h is 265 g, 33 g for a bigger screen and glass front makes sense I think

[shrewd prairie]

yeah, if u forget main thing

plastic + glass front vs METAL

[upbeat yoke]

Yeah but what’s the metal? If it’s aluminium it could be pretty lightweight

[shrewd prairie]

true

aluminium yes

[upbeat yoke]

After watching Russ’ impressions I think I’ll probably try to get this early bird, depending on the price I can get on Ali and currency conversion to NZD

[fleet stag]

I was so hoping for rubber membrane based shoulder buttons... I can live with the clicky buttons, but man... I hate clicky shoulders!

[turbid urchin]

Yeah, same here. Deal breaker for me

[upbeat yoke]

Why hate clicky shoulders so much? I would have thought clicky face buttons would be more annoying since you press them more frequently?

[fleet stag]

They definitely are more annoying and as I said, I can live with them, but I really hate them. I play a lot of SNES games, which sometimes use the shoulders a lot and all the time CLICK CLICK CLICK - man, makes me go crazy!

[fleet stag]

Not a deal breaker for me, but yeah, I'm a bit disappointed...

[upbeat yoke]

Fair enough!

[placid thorn]

XU Pocket ACE my beloved, soon you will be mine

[mint venture]

they painted the surrounding shell black intentionally

presumably they think it looks better

[peak chasm]

Rg405m fully metal

I think a full plastic RG47XXH will be 260 grams

[placid laurel]

At first I was somewhat annoyed by the announcement of yet another T820 device but I'm actually kind of interested in this purely for the older 4:3 retro systems like Dreamcast, PS1, Genesis and SNES. It could be a cool companion to my O2 Mini to cover all of my Android emulation needs

[modern heart]

405m is still king for me i guess. i just want something mostly flat with a good 4 inch screen i can put in my damn pocket

[unreal cobalt]

Definitely ain't splurging that much just for GBA

[peak chasm]

Now, this is pocketable

200 grams rg40xxh

[modern heart]

it's true. this does cover a lot of bases. I honestly forgot about the 40xxh, if they threw even the t820 chip in there and a better screen, i'm in. I really just want the rpmini v2 without the grips.

[frigid sequoia]

You’re describing what I wanted the 406h to be rather than “squished cube”

[mint venture]

isn't that literally this

[frigid sequoia]

I think they’re saying they wish this was smaller

Better screen not bigger screen

[mint venture]

ah gotcha

[modern heart]

close though, if this was something inbetween screen and body size wise, that would be sick. like 4.2.
I have the 477m and it is incredible, but too heavy and slightly too big for the pocket. this 476h is going to be a great device, I just don't have a place for it personally

[velvet nebula]

4.2 is the size of the pocket air mini, just sayin

[frigid sequoia]

Unfortunately it is an Ayaneo product

[turbid urchin]

Hope this will have non clicky shoulder. That would be a nice 406h remplacement without being too big, can be played in bed.
As long as the chip is able to play up to ps1, n64 and such upscaled and to have relatively heavy shaders, at a good price point, it could be fine

[oak umbra]

I play stuff like Mario Power Tennis at 2X on my 406V

[oak umbra]

It goes way beyond that

[oak umbra]

Of all the handhelds they have released, this one has the ugliest color. I don't think i can have fun playing games looking at this color 😆

[pliant barn]

Yeah I'm pretty sure many games can play at 2x

Toadstool Tour was 2x iirc when I had my rg406h earlier this year

[fleet stag]

I hate my RG40XXH devices, because both have the worst dpads out of all of my handhelds I own and additionally the dpad and face buttons are way too close to the sticks, which really annoys me, because I always end up pushing the sticks by mistake.
Oh yeah, also the right shoulder button feels a bit sticky in comparison to the left one.

So, definitely my worst ANBERNIC devices I own!

[oak umbra]

And given the resolution of the screen it makes no sense going beyond that tbh

[unreal cobalt]

Oh I know that. Just saying I'm happy up to PSX on a device I'd mainly use predominantly for GBA

[echo cargo]

Yeah the device for me would serve the same purpose. really only looking for up to 5th gen out of this device/form factor

[oak umbra]

I am tempted to get one for my birthday but i know in 2 months they will release a V version for the 477 so i'll wait 😆

[unreal cobalt]

NGL a V version would be a chonky boy. Considering the RG406V was already borderline big.

[still goblet]

beeg gameboy

[patent compass]

406V has huge bezels though, they'd probably slim it down for 476V

[unique forge]

The problem with questioning what this can play is the same as people questioning what the steam deck and Odin 2 can play.

Basically, mbti-types who only digest information at a socioemotional level and will ignore media in general

[unreal cobalt]

What do you mean? The bezels on the 406V is quite slim IMO. Just a huge shame that the 476H has no bezels. Hope Anbernic upped their manufacturing game to perfectly align screens to the cutout. Even Retroid struggles to align the screens properly. Had to request replacement screens on my RP Mini twice since the screens weren't aligned.

[patent compass]

By bezels I mean device width minus screen width.

[brittle pelican]

my review unit was aligned perfectly and I flagged this to anbernic as something they need to get right

I have a misaligned RP5

[unreal cobalt]

Nice. Yeah I don't know why manufacturers thought removing bezels was a great idea to begin with. Seems like more of a hassle and QC nightmare, especially if the device doesn't have a black front.

[sullen cave]

forthenext anytime an issue is mentioned with the rg476h.

[mint venture]

doing god's work

[golden cliff]

Posted new Ali coupon codes #1374058516284706928 message

[austere goblet]

Do we have ETA on this release date?

[late isle]

Not yet but it should be revealed any day now

Ideally tomorrow

[hollow jacinth]

I just want to know the price. I'm hoping 150.

or even better, cheaper.

[oak umbra]

The 406V is a chungus , the videos mask how big it is lol

[oak umbra]

When the Odin 3 comes out the Odin 2 will be a perfect machine up until the Snes because it's all it's good for and can play ( sarcasm )

[austere goblet]

thanks

[peak chasm]

Anbernic confirmed in an e-mail to Retrododo that it will be 150 ex shipping the first 3 days. After that 165 ex shipping.

But this is Anbernic. Max Zhou, the guys who one month ago said: “ no, there won’t be a plastic horizontal version with this screen, I won’t do it”. That same Max.

[mint venture]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1XKpFzZEkg/

some retro gray action

[mint blade]

Just got mine in, unboxing in a few hours at 6pm pacific. It's the DMG Gray model

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3vUeOq6_4s

[unreal cobalt]

Check screen alignment pls. I don't trust devices without bezels anymore. Even the biggest phone manufacturers in the world don't make devices without bezels for obvious reason.

[mint venture]

that'd be difficult to check with the DMG gray since it has black borders to mask it

[unreal cobalt]

True. Didn't realise that. Wonder why they did that for the grey but not the purple.

[unique forge]

heh... never before seen noob speeds

[mint venture]

@mint blade could you do an impressions comparison between this and the rg477m in terms of feel, ergos, etc? nothing super deep just how you feel about each

[mint blade]

Yeah we'll have a livestream/video this week

But we'll briefly look tonight

[austere goblet]

that purple looks great

[echo cargo]

I want to like the gray but idk if I can do it. I’ll probably end up with black like everything else 🤣

[low tartan]

We need you to get out the precision measuring instruments, obtain every color, and get this bezel-gate issue sorted 🙏

[mint blade]

https://tenor.com/view/marcando-medidas-com-paquímetro-iberêthenório-manual-do-mundo-fazendo-marcações-na-madeira-medindo-com-paquímetro-gif-26330491

I can accomplish one of those objectives in the immediete future 😆

[spark agate]

Ok now I’m happy the grey model, which I want, has the bezels. No chance of covered pixels

I’m now pro bezel. Was anti bezel but have flipped.

[unreal cobalt]

Yeah after getting my first bezel-less device.. Never again.

At least with bezels, imperfect screen alignment isn't obvious on non-black devices.

[spark agate]

Ok ok I m now back to being anti-bezel.

[patent compass]

Maybe that's why they went for a small screen bezel on the light color moder. Dark color models would make this less noticeable

[compact crystal]

On Anbernic.com, for EU citizens, are the "estimated taxes" indeed charged at the payment?

Just preparing an eventual purchase…

[unreal cobalt]

It's a possibility. I'd still would have a bezel for the GC colourway as well if I was them. The DMG seems to be the way to go for those who don't want a black version.

[mint venture]

yes

don't buy from Anbernic.com if you are from the EU

buy from literally anywhere else other than Anbernic.com

[compact crystal]

Duely noted, thanks!

[unique forge]

bezels? no bezels? make up your -minds- RETRO GAMERS!!

😄

[unreal cobalt]

Bezels all day everyday.

[mint venture]

Anbernic: "Let's paint the bezels gray so it looks like it has no bezels"

Also Anbernic: "Let's draw black lines around the screen so it looks like it has bezels"

[cyan jetty]

I don't understand this. How is there a bezel on the grey version but the purple one doesn't ?

[mint venture]

I don't know man, Anbernic always finds a way to fuck something up for no reason

[real imp]

If you zoom in, there’s also a black border on the GC color, just slimmer and kind of unnoticeable, I guess.

[echo cargo]

Yeah I think it has it but much slimmer

[cyan jetty]

This I could live with. The grey bezel though...

[dark laurel]

Least on the black the bezel is hidden but finger prints will be the issue

[velvet nebula]

Why with the all glass front? Not a fan. Just me.

[unique forge]

dominant complaints per t820 - "it changes every time" edition

556 - slick texture is gross
Cube - schrodinger's IPS GLOW
406v - the butt turns people on and that's weird
406h - not perfect enough
Slide - it makes your hands hurt to hold it
476h - schrodinger's bezel

[shrewd prairie]

nah, main and one real reason T820 weak for that price

[cedar kayak]

What are some better alternatives at $165 or less?

Like more powerful devices under $165.

[shrewd prairie]

em, retroid pocket 4 pro, way more powerful

150$

[brittle pelican]

the black one has a very very thin bezel as well

[cedar kayak]

That was originally $200 right? And has a smaller equivalent screen for 4:3 at lower resolution and refresh rate?

[fleet stag]

I'm still torn between black and purple, but the more I think about it, the more I also start to think about the retro grey one. Maybe the bezel ain't that bad after all...

[shrewd prairie]

same screen size

120hz 😄 u dont need them with that soc

[cedar kayak]

Rp4p has a 4.7" 4:3 screen?

[shrewd prairie]

16x9

120hz usable when u have at least sn865

[cedar kayak]

So there is more value in a chip that can play more, but not all, ps2 and gc games than the 476h - but no value in higher resolution, higher refresh rate, and a bigger equivalent display for most systems.

[brittle pelican]

rp4p has an iPhone 7 screen - with response time from that era

it has some smearing

[shrewd prairie]

nah

noone confirm that

[brittle pelican]

I confirm that

[shrewd prairie]

show valid proofs

[cedar kayak]

Higher refresh rate specifically on the anbernic screen screen has been shown to reduce effective latency and allow better processing of BFI

[shrewd prairie]

1100 can play any ps2/gc game

with upscalers and graphic mods

[brittle pelican]

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBx_Mviz1VRiO4LHJ1_uYvr55dXZ8_ThM 50+ hours of live testing

[shrewd prairie]

where exact display test?

or teardown and panel model show case or latency test vs something else Icd

[cedar kayak]

Well luckily you can just buy the RP4P and not buy the 476H, since chip power is more important to you.

I think for a lot of people they see value in a bigger 4:3 experience and the ability to do a 4x/ 2x integer upscale on almost everything PS1 and below. BFI/crt beam shader and other tweaks that are easier to achieve on 120hz are icing on the cake.

[brittle pelican]

I looked at this screen for 50+ hours 😂

[primal grove]

Pointless trying to have a conversation with that one 😄

[shrewd prairie]

:/

[shrewd prairie]

dont need it, i wait something big

[shrewd prairie]

many will just add to 477m 30% for x5+- boost (x6 actually gpu)

imo

[unreal cobalt]

Any screen misalignment will still be fairly obvious. TBH a “bezel” that thin would make it even more noticeable IMO

[unreal cobalt]

Black will show fingerprints easily. Purple will show fingerprints and screen misalignment noticeably

[mint venture]

the evidence is simple: there's no other screen with that size and resolution other than the ones used on the iPhone, unless Retroid custom manufactured it, which is impossible because that would have made the handheld much more expensive

[shrewd prairie]

custom not expensive

all depend what quality they want

[unique forge]

The problem with the rp3/3+/4/4pro is they hurt your hands to play for long periods of time. Its the same issue as the trimui smart pro and ps vita.

[shrewd prairie]

Oh, by the way... that's easy to refute. You can buy an iPhone 7 display replica with the same resolution, so it's not just one panel, right?

[shrewd prairie]

Are you talking about heating?

If so, I didn't have any problems with that... although I don't think I played anything on consoles for more than 3 hours

[unique forge]

Heat, thumb bruising from stiff face buttons, index and pinky finger cramps unless you buy a custom grip

[shrewd prairie]

Is this really a widespread problem? or individual case

[unique forge]

The amount of people who need a grip for an rp device is pretty large

practically its own economy

[shrewd prairie]

I had no problems with either rp5 or rp4pro, maybe it just habit

I tried grips that improve ergonomics, and they became a little more comfortable, but I decided it wasn't worth it

[fleet stag]

So, you're trying to tell me that retro grey is the only option to go?

[unreal cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-the-way-this-is-the-way-mandalorian-mandalorian-i-have-spoken-baby-yoda-gif-24159898

[peak chasm]

No, Black

[mint venture]

I like how you used a gif with black bars

[unreal cobalt]

Gotta love black glass fronts. I love admiring my fingerprints and natural body oils everytime.

[unreal cobalt]

Didn't realise I had a third hand to wipe and play at the same time.

I kid. Buy what you want.

[fleet stag]

Well, I still have time to think. The device is not out, yet. Damn, I hate all those tough decisions in life!

[upbeat yoke]

I was thinking the GC one but now I'm thinking maybe I like the retro grey more

[frosty swallow]

After seeing other people's phones and guitars, it is definitely more of an issue for some than others. No shade, some people are just naturally much more oily.

[austere goblet]

I don't have oily fingers so the glass fronts never brother me.

[bronze jolt]

I don’t really know much about bfi or that crt beam shader, does either impact performance much or at all and will the 820 be fine with that for 16/32 bit stuff? Probably more the crt beam shader than bfi which I guess will just work

[spark agate]

The ultimate would be 8300 in this plastic chassis. But knowing Anbernic they will probably swap the dpad to bottom or something like that.

[dark laurel]

https://anbernic.com/products/rg476h

[ember isle]

Hated the RP4Pro screen. Something about the definition. Can’t explain.

[unreal cobalt]

AliExpress listing
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mrgvTuZ

[bronze jolt]

Can you buy aliexpress saver then cancel straight after ordering to get a saving?

[compact crystal]

It seems that they will offer only DHL shipping on Ali 🙁

[mint venture]

what a steal

[unborn lintel]

1.03 dollars 🤑

[upbeat yoke]

Do they set the price as exhorbitant just to show that it’s not on sale yet lol?

[bronze jolt]

Click on a colour

[echo cargo]

Yeah it just defaults to that selection of “display the link” you can click through the actual listing

[upbeat yoke]

Oh I see

[echo cargo]

Big decision over the next couple days Grey or Black

[upbeat yoke]

$280 nzd, not terrible

[upbeat yoke]

I think I’m gonna go grey, black will be super smudgey I fear

[bronze jolt]

Grey

[echo cargo]

Luckily I don’t have issues with black devices idk maybe I just don’t have oily hands naturally

[brittle pelican]

they are being aggressive with the price, I am surprised

[mint venture]

somewhat

I don't think this will blow people's minds

but it's reasonable

[dire bay]

I don't think anyone has anything good to say about the RP4P screen.

[mint venture]

I don't follow, before the advent of OLED it was considered one of the best panels in the market

well above average in color reproduction for an IPS panel

[dire bay]

What? Are we talking about the same RP4P? That one with green tinting, horrible ghosting and vsync issues and a resolution that doesn't integer scale anything?

[late isle]

Oh it was bad, ignore the ❓

[unreal cobalt]

That's weird. I have a free shipping option.

[late isle]

Glad we moved past the 4,7“ 750p phase

[shrewd prairie]

It looks like what I saw, but that was a defect unit... I didn't have any problems like that with the other one.

[compact crystal]

To Europe?

[unreal cobalt]

Australia for me.

[compact crystal]

I found this with lower shipping price from EU: I just found this on AliExpress:
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EzEj3h0
But more than 210€ total…

Ok here for 198€ and free shipping: https://a.aliexpress.com/_EyHo77k
still everything but cheap for me…

[primal grove]

thats a decent price tag tbh

i expected worse

[austere goblet]

150 wow

[bronze jolt]

£150 hm

[primal grove]

150 in dollars 😄 i forget how much shipping is

[bronze jolt]

On aliexpress it’s saying £148

[marble inlet]

200$ is a bit much for this device given it's power

[velvet nebula]

Even $166 is too much, imo. The 477m was $225? At launch. Way more powerful chip and aluminum body is only $50-$60 more? C’mon

[unique forge]

still pretty good. market pricing

the phone version(ZTE Nubia Neo 2) of this device is still 180-196usd?

[bronze jolt]

Back to the air mini 😅

[unique forge]

if you're paying beneath that -at all- you're getting a discount. same happened with the rg556 and cube

market price for dimensity 8300 phones is still 231-498usd

[velvet nebula]

I’m actually glad that there is more competition for Anbernic. I always thought their products were good, but not necessarily a good value. Maybe another player in this space will change that

[marble inlet]

the 477m is even a more ridiculous price but there is no competition in that aspect ratio and form factor

[velvet nebula]

Yet

[unique forge]

look at it this way. are you going to do that much worth of gaming on it? if so, the cost is justified

[marble inlet]

people buy these things to play on them? preposterous!

to be honest, i'm looking for a medium size 4:3 to do all my DC and down gaming on it. and this and pocket air mini are good candidates

[unique forge]

lol, nobody here plays games

[velvet nebula]

Who has time for that

[marble inlet]

if pocket air SoC is decent at (112 + 20) * VAT then maybe i will get my first aya device

i heard a lot of complaints about the time people spend setting up the android device, but i don't see the problem with obtainium and building a list of apps to install, most of them can be set up as they are being used, no need to do all of it upfront

have a decent rom library curated and scrapped

[languid pier]

175 eur for me

[unique forge]

my reasoning is like... a movie ticket to see i dunno, 28 Years Later, is 8 dollars. it's 2 hours. so like... 4 dollars an hour. If can't at least get 37.5 hours out of a 150usd handheld, it fucking sucks.

[velvet nebula]

https://github.com/RJNY/Obtainium-Emulation-Pack

[marble inlet]

it takes a bit to set up compared to linux systems that come with roms(ugh) and maybe god forbid cracked android apps and games

[marble inlet]

exactly, pick and choose which emulator, have that page opened in the device and you're good to go

the only problem is copying a huge library on an sdcard

[unique forge]

i just keep a folder of apks, tbh

[marble inlet]

and then have choice paralysis

i prefer obtainium to keep apps up to date

[unique forge]

but also... keep the Buildbot bookmarked

[marble inlet]

some emulators update often

[unique forge]

https://buildbot.libretro.com/

[marble inlet]

for RA?

[unique forge]

yeah, buildbot version of RA is always a few hours behind development

[marble inlet]

come on, who needs bleeding edge RA

[unique forge]

BOUNTY POSTERS.
aka people who attach money to a feature they want(like nonyellow video in Beetle PSX) and whatever dev fixes it gets paid, then the nightly version gets that feature

we as a retro-gaming community slice probably don't see too much from the more feral arcade/tv-box crowd, but there's a whole ecosystem based around getting the cores as feature-complete as possible

[frigid sequoia]

It’s an old lcd, weird res that doesn’t integer scale anything, 60hz, and way smaller than this for 4:3 content

[unique forge]

i just couldn't get past the broken 3d drivers to want d1100 power. the renderer doesn't understand z-buffer depth for a lot of games, so sprites get pushed behind objects, and lighting breaks

yeah, rp4pro enjoyers are going to roll their eyes and say "it's emulation, DUH. it's not supposed to be perfect." which is all fair.

the screen is kinda washed-out too.

[shrewd prairie]

small amount of games has this type of glitch, so its not problem at all

[unique forge]

it's specifically stuff with lots of effects going on like Twisted Metal Black, Q3A, and whatnot

[shrewd prairie]

and seems like its not driver issues at all

this glitch will be in any game if

emu compatibility problem

[unique forge]

not too sure about that, but it's a subjective issue. if all you do is emulate on mali, it looks normal, but if you've seen it on nvidia, adreno, intel, "good" mali, amd, and start comparing footage to original ps2, you'll very quickly go "HEY, something's wrong here."

[shrewd prairie]

i need samples

[unique forge]

this is more of an emulation accuracy vs. "i just wanna play the game" sort of thing though.

[shrewd prairie]

we have just 1 emulating core for ps2

on any platform

[unique forge]

same scene, but adreno. notice.... the sprites aren't behind the background

lol

[austere goblet]

I don't get comparing this to the RP4P. One is 4:3 and the other is 16:9

[unique forge]

just... go look around m'dude

[shrewd prairie]

oh, u mean games with mali issue

i though at all

[unique forge]

you're missing the point. the t820 has better mali drivers. this issue doesn't exist.

[shrewd prairie]

ik, but i dont think it was big problem

just dont play 3 ps2 games which has graphical issues on 1100

i think it will be good on new ps2 emulator

even if u right, and it just more outdate gpu drivers on 1100

[unique forge]

heh

[copper coral]

Well yeah, that’s the issue if the emulator isn’t well supported enough for Mali, or at least the drivers that specific chip’s Mali GPU is using.

[unique forge]

yeah... that's what makes it hard to discuss in a place where a good pie-slice of users haven't used original hardware or bruteforced accurate emulation to see how games should look and play.

this is a society. it's okay

[shrewd prairie]

show real samples, u talk now about full emulation not 3 games :/

[shrewd prairie]

.

[shrewd prairie]

.

so its cant be less or more accurate

they just the same

[copper coral]

He just showed his examples and meanwhile you’ve shown none being emulated perfectly.

[shrewd prairie]

he show broken game in D1100

that nothing

but talking about every game

and emulation accuracy at all

[balmy mulch]

Me when I don't know what I'm talking about

[copper coral]

And the PS2 library consists of 1000+ games, there’s absolutely still some games that doesn’t work well even on PCSX2.

[shrewd prairie]

true

[unique forge]

i am not going to spend my afternoon showing missing gunsprites, footstep dust, road artifacts in burnout 3, and broken grenade explosions in socom.

this is not how i enjoy my time lol

[shrewd prairie]

so u want to say, this not happenes on x86?

or adreno

[copper coral]

…I didn’t even see this until now, but holy crap that’s not how any of this works at all.

[shrewd prairie]

really?

[balmy mulch]

I think you should learn english first cause I don't think you understand what he's saying

[shrewd prairie]

ps2 emulation still not ideal, and never be seems like

[balmy mulch]

There's differences on emulation even between amd and nvidia on pc, things will not be the same between two different mobile devices

[unique forge]

RIght. i'm arguing with a solipsist. nothing exists until you bring it in front of them.

well... i have laundry to do.

[shrewd prairie]

:/ without proofs its just words

[dire gale]

Wait 3 months and you might be able to pick this up for 120 on AliExpress.

[frigid sequoia]

Ps2/gamecube and up is so much better on PC than mobile

[shrewd prairie]

performance yes

[frigid sequoia]

Which is why the t820 is a great sweet spot for efficient 5th gen and down enjoyers

[still goblet]

If they let you use coupons you can probably get one close to that on launch

[unique forge]

that reminds me. i need to see how xenoblade chronicles x runs on t820

chronicles 1 runs fine on both wii and 3ds

[mint venture]

have they blocked Ali coupons before in the past?

[still goblet]

For the most part no, I think it was even possible to get an rg slide for $160 ish during launch week. I do remember them blocking some coupons on the rg557 before though. That might've been a one off

[bronze jolt]

So what $ is it showing on Ali? I’m seeing £148 in uk

[echo cargo]

$165 USD

[placid thorn]

$165 as the EB

well, if coupons are still in effect when this goes live on Friday I'm down, because it would be 150€ shipped and taxed which is cheaper than the starting prices of all other rg006 devices, rgCUBE aside

[echo stump]

With shipping this is almost $200 for me that's a deal breaker and I'm out unfortunately

Unless the the Ali proces after coupons and shipping comes close to $150

[upbeat yoke]

it's looking like I might get free shipping and some sort of discount from this being my first Ali order so hoping I manage to get it for < $150usd

[torpid cairn]

It looks like the Ali listing will be 150 initially and there are Ali sales which run through 9/22

So seems like could get this down to $135, which seems pretty reasonable

[echo cargo]

I believe the first 3 days will bring it down to $150

[peak chasm]

I paid 184 inc shipping (ex taxes) for my rg477m, paid 12 euro taxes, total 196 euros. Retail price rg477m was $239 ? Retail price rg476h is $165. Yet i will most likely have to pay around 173 ahipped?

[mint venture]

this one's not for you lol

that being said you were lucky for buying early the 8gb model since it's discontinued now

[peak chasm]

True, i never expected that they would stop producing them so fast , they only made like 2,000 of them (80% 8gb, 20% 12gb) and the 8gb sold out within a few days. The $300+ 12gb is still for sale

Paying less than 200 for a 8gb version basically is a steal

[austere goblet]

I seen some pics of this doing psp and gba and it's like the same size as the ACE

[floral gull]

Sd door won’t stay closed with card in 💀

[austere goblet]

Letter boxing is hard to see with black

[still goblet]

Do the sticks pop off easily

[icy elk]

You can't force it shut?

At least there's internal storage

[mint venture]

ok this looks really nice

I wasn't too sold on black at first but it looks great here

@floral gull first impressions right off the bat?

[floral gull]

Yeah same as Retroid devices

[floral gull]

It only latches shut on the non hinged side. So the hinge side can be pressed flush but just pops back out

I mean the sticks don’t just fall off. I just mean you can take them off if you want.

[floral gull]

Feels nice. Screen is great (already knew this from 477m). I think if the price and performance make sense it’s a solid option for a nice big 4:3 screen.

$150 plus shipping at launch

Performance presumably caps out at some 1x-2x gc/ps2 like the 406v/h

[mint venture]

how do you like it vs the rg477m, performance aside?

[floral gull]

Uhh I mean it's very similar. Bit more rounded back edges bit sharper front edges. A bit lighter. The bumps for the triggers on the back give you something to rest against your fingers.

If I didn't need the performance I would probably pick this over the 477m

[pseudo cypress]

Hot

[copper coral]

Ah, that good old fashioned Anbernic quality control (this is assuming it’s not supposed to do that, since that being intended would be frankly baffling even for them).

[velvet nebula]

Working as intended

[balmy mulch]

russ showed it too so, I'm pretty sure it's a design flaw

[copper coral]

…It would be really stupid but honestly not unexpected if they just didn’t bother to test if sd cards actually fit in this thing.

[balmy mulch]

it would certainly be one of the design choices of all time

[austere goblet]

How much on board storage does this have?

[copper coral]

128GB.

[unique forge]

load up some ut2004 instant action

[twilit edge]

Oh man this has put me right off this device... That would drive me insane...

[sour carbon]

Which feels better in the pocket?

[bronze jolt]

One has bits sticking out, the other not so much

[twin galleon]

Rip that’s a huge design flaw (sd slot)

[patent compass]

It can probably be shaved down. Not good, but probably not a huge flaw

[brittle pelican]

weird, mine is okay with an SD card in

Anbernic just told me they already got this feedback and steps have been taken to ensure it’s not in the final product

[bronze jolt]

When’s your vid coming @brittle pelican

[placid thorn]

they better do, I would send it back immediately if the slot ain't closing

[brittle pelican]

I don’t think I can livestream for this one 😢

I think I’ll be back for Konkr Pocket Fit G3x Gen 3

[bronze jolt]

Ooh when’s that arriving ???

If your allowed to say

[soft spindle]

Is the 476h worth the upgrade from 505?

[twilit edge]

Just when I thought I was out...

[brittle pelican]

I bought it on the indiegogo and asked for DPD shipping so I think end Oct?

[orchid shard]

Mannn I’m really like this thing.. seems like the perfect jump for me to get into horizontals. Currently only have a 34xx that can be considered one. Really was hoping for good things on Ayn Thor but no problem picking this up in the mean time

[earnest badger]

Most of the time, when people state that the T820 is not great for GC and PS2, I realize that they upscale in first intention. I personally don't upscale anything and if so, how does the GC library ? And PS2 ?

[placid thorn]

Most GCN games and about 2/3 of the PS2 library can run if you tinker a bit

[peak chasm]

Send it to me with dhl express and i will livestream tomorrow for 10 hours

Europe price is around 170-173 (depending on vat) shipped

But because it is more than 150, maybe they will deduct the vat

So you can get it cheaper just like 477m

With 20 euro discount it is 153. That is still higher than 150

Ex vat it its 135 shipped

[mint venture]

can they take steps to ensure the black bezel is not in the final retro DMG model?

[unreal cobalt]

Y'all already have the black and GC. Let us bezel lovers have at least one option

100% will not buy if no bezels.

[sour carbon]

I got the RG477M for £165 as the VAT got deducted. I wonder how much this will be in £ with VAT deducted

[mint venture]

fair, the problem is black and gc suck

(source: https://youtu.be/w-dtWXGGJf0)

black's kinda growing on me

[unreal cobalt]

I'm cursed with oily hands so black handhelds are a no-go for me, especially glass fronts.

[foggy pagoda]

RG477V ?

[toxic pagoda]

rg???ds

[unborn lintel]

bag carry vertical fans would be eating good

unfortunately it would overtake what most people would consider pocketable

[toxic pagoda]

i'd like an rg47xx with the overall cubexx feel

[still goblet]

Rg ds and rg 477v

[toxic pagoda]

i guess we'll see the 406v/p screen in the xx line before the 4.7"

[foggy pagoda]

Never really cared about pocketing tbh, as I always play at home

[unborn lintel]

most people play on a tv when at home no?

[foggy pagoda]

Idk about that, but I’d play it when I’m lazing on my bed

I’d hope it would be 477v as I sold my 406v today

[toxic pagoda]

i don't really pocket handhelds but i love the feeling of games playing on something real tiny

[foggy pagoda]

It feels nostalgic

I had a switch years back and I never played it

[patent compass]

476V with all glass front 😛

Pissing off the biggest amount of people at the same time

[unique forge]

What are your top ten games to play on t820?

[foggy pagoda]

I wonder if that is even possible

[patent compass]

why won't it be possible

No issues except being awful 😁

[hasty turtle]

I don't know why, but I like the overall design of this thing better than the Pocket Air Mini's...

[sullen cave]

I get a free air mini since I overpaid for the s2. I am still buying one of these. I dig the look. Worst case I will give it to my nephew.

[foggy pagoda]

I would rather get the 477m then

But regardless can’t wait to see the new 477v anyways

[patent compass]

I'm just making it all up, obviously that's not happening

[unique forge]

the glass will be fine till you drop it, or it gets crushed in your backpack

[mint venture]

the air mini is too bulky for what it is

should have kept a more compact profile

[hasty turtle]

that could be it, yeah... 🤔

the bezel is also somewhat off-putting to me... although I never had strong emotions towards a handheld having them

[unborn lintel]

If the grips make it any thicker than 26mms It's a pass for me

[bronze jolt]

Its 27.6mm

[foggy pagoda]

I know, I’m just saying if

[velvet nebula]

Oddly specific

[foggy pagoda]

Well even if they would make it glass panel, the roundness would be gone of the 477v

[unborn lintel]

yep, that's thicker than even clamshells

pass

[bronze jolt]

Hope this is below £150 with the case shipped

[austere goblet]

@mint blade does you SD card cover shut with a SD card in on your unit?

[mint blade]

Ah let me confirm, stream this eve btw

[austere goblet]

Looks to be a issue for some. Well most. I think ForTheNext didn't have it. But Derek and Russ did.

[unique forge]

just put some tape over it

😎

[austere goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-tape-tape-face-weird-hi-gif-14025177

[mint blade]

Mine shuts and is flush

[austere goblet]

Hopefully this isn't a issue on retail then

[floral gull]

what color unit?

I'm assuming mine was shipped at the same time as Stubbs' so it's just interesting that its different. Maybe different brands of microsd cards are slightly longer?

[mint venture]

that could well be the case that different microsd brands have very small variances in dimensions

[mint blade]

2tb sandisk, grey dmg

didn't ship with an sd

[floral gull]

Hmm I just tested three different cards and they all don't sit flush. Must be variation with the units themselves

[austere goblet]

#1412741270069317705 message

[floral gull]

https://youtu.be/ABWFM4pqfnI

[unique forge]

"good for up to dreamcast"
newbs will be echochambering that for weeks

[floral gull]

Bold of you to presume that many people watch my videos

[shrewd prairie]

it probably the worst configurated nethersx2 what i ever see

[placid thorn]

I mean this obviously can pull the majority of GCN

if you only want to go for "up to dreamcast" the Pocket Air Mini may be better

[floral gull]

It's certainly priced better for a similar power

[placid thorn]

I wouldn't call it similar and the RAM/ROM configs clearly are in favor of 5th gen and under

[floral gull]

True, less RAM, the cpu/gpu power are in the same ballpark though

[velvet nebula]

Thank you for an honest review, appreciate the video

[placid thorn]

37% more CPU on the t820

single-core obviously

[velvet nebula]

I think the RG476 vs Mini Air comparisons are a bit null now. Very different price range

[placid thorn]

I mean, honestly... retail for the Air Mini is like $120... Anbernic on sale will get there

[floral gull]

TBH, I'm a bit jaded on any comparisons on specs alone. We have so many options now. I pick handheld based on what feels good to me and factors that are important to me like screen and ergonomics. These things may vary from person to person.

[unique forge]

also, 2-3gb of ram means no wii-u, switch, but some lower end vita, some 3ds.

[floral gull]

Even if I could tweak nethersx2 better for performance, at the end of the day I don't want to spend tons of time tweaking. So I stand by my opinion that it's not a device one should buy expecting to have a good ps2 experience.

[unique forge]

ttwo different devices

[somber totem]

Anbernic is at $185ish retail with shipping though, it's a gap

[placid thorn]

fair enough, but the Air Mini clearly isn't aiming at 6th Gen systems or even Android gaming, while the 476 can do a fair bit of that, so the specs make a difference there

[somber totem]

Android gaming should actually be decent on the Air Mini, GPU Isn't that far off

[floral gull]

Also I don't think I explicitly said it's only good up to dreamcast. Just that dreamcast and below will run smoothly without issue. It's certainly capable of a good chunk of gamecube.

[unique forge]

heck. the air mini doesn't have enough ram for winlator despite power

ut2004 may crash on load

[placid thorn]

with 2/32 and 3/64 SKUs, I wouldn't expect anything to run

[somber totem]

3gb of RAM is... Usable

[floral gull]

I'm not touching winlator with a 10ft pole on lower end chips. Just because you can get something to run doesn't mean it's a great experience haha. But maybe I'm just spoiled by moer powerful options we have now.

[placid thorn]

Aya should honestly have done 3/64 and 4/128 like Retroid did for the RP2S

[velvet nebula]

but it's a ~$100 device, how many devices in that price range will give you "wii-u, switch" etc.

[somber totem]

This has been my issue with the community for a while. Specs are fun enough to talk about, but ergo and controls will always be my priority

All the way back in the RP2+ days

I dislike that handheld quite a bit

[floral gull]

the 476h delivers a really good dpad gaming experience, IMO, and the screen is excellent for what it is. Whether that's worth $175 is certainly debatable, but yeah

[placid thorn]

I think we have lil to worry about controls with either AYA nor Anbernic and ergo is a personal thing, I will probably vastly prefer that flat slab of a 476 over the bumps on the Air Mini

[velvet nebula]

Honest take of the day

[somber totem]

I'll go for ergo bumps all the time

[placid thorn]

IMO they are more in the way with smaller devices, like on the RP5 they just irritate me

[somber totem]

I mentioned this in the Pocket Air thread, but with a ton of actual full PS2/GC options, recommending compromised experiences doesn't make much sense

[somber totem]

I adore them on the Cube, they just melt into my hands

[upbeat yoke]

I’ve been pruning my romlist and it turns out most of what I want to play is PSX so with this screen this device is going to be perfect

[floral gull]

Yeah, I mean if you are on a super budget, I get that you may want to have something that can dabble in gen6. But if you really want a good experience there most of these sub-$200 handhelds are not it.

[remote timber]

I effing hate the Cube. The RGB30 was a brick but for some reason it just felt better.

[somber totem]

It's very specifically shaped

Makes sense it doesn't work for a lot of people

[floral gull]

Also despite having no bumps, the 476 is more comfy than I anticipated.

[upbeat yoke]

Have we seen any good videos that show a comparison on the colour? Trying to decide between indigo and grey

[floral gull]

Don't think anyone has more than one colorway in hand so, you'd have to pull up a few videos I guess

[placid thorn]

Cube has really fat ergos for such a small device, so arguably they ain't bad... at least if you keep your hands on the main controls... which makes the og CUBE quite unusable for d-pad stuff IMO, CUBExx on the other hand is indeed comfortable for that

[upbeat yoke]

True, I need to find a good grey vid to look at

[somber totem]

I like the dpad usage on it, maybe my hands are just unique

[floral gull]

I think @mint blade will be covering that model on stream tonight

[somber totem]

But it is one of the main reasons I'm considering swapping to the Air Mini, dpad top is still better for these handhelds

[somber totem]

There used to be a great recommendation flowchart on what to buy for your needs, if needs to be remade

Still will have the Steam Deck though

[floral gull]

Still nothing has dethroned the Deck at that price point really. I mean obviously if you want a different form factor/OS. But nothing x86 wise reallly changes much in the past couple years. I don't even own a deck but it's still true haha.

[mint blade]

Yeah at 6pm pacific about.

We'll be covering Winlator stuff as well. Having fun with GameHub on here especially.

[floral gull]

Gamehub has finally made it easy (ish)

Was pretty stunned how easily I linked up steam and installed hades ii on my tablet. The actual gameplay experience wasn't perfect, but set up was the easiest it's ever been.

[somber totem]

My steam account is like the one account I don't want to risk losing to anything

So I'm cautious

[floral gull]

Yeah that's fair. You can use the QR code sign in, at least. So you aren't giving them your login credentials. But I'm sure there's still some possibility of risk.

[somber totem]

I think it's probably just as bad tbh

I thought for sure Valve was planning on doing something like this this themselves

Maybe one day

[floral gull]

They may still be. Like anything with valve I think a lot of their ideas are in secret testing for a looooooong time.

And may not all see light of day.

[somber totem]

That standalone VR headset has been rumored for a year+ at this point

[floral gull]

https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/vr-hardware/the-valve-rumor-mill-goes-into-overdrive-as-vr-influencers-travel-to-seattle-for-what-seems-likely-to-be-the-imminent-reveal-of-the-steam-frame/

Take this with a grain of salt

Anyway. 476h, it's a neat toy, I like toys, I like different toys. Toys are fun.

[somber totem]

These are all toys! We're adults playing with toys, and that's okay

[spring nacelle]

Can it run NFS U and U2 on PS2 and REO + RE1 remake on GC?

at 2x res?

[unreal cobalt]

So does anyone know if they grey will have a bezel or not? All the promo/renders seem to be a mix, images with or without bezel

[floral gull]

Footage from their youtube channel

But, the indigo in Russ' video doesn't look like that so..

idk

[lucid silo]

Did anyone try the Retroid dual screen on this?

[upbeat yoke]

Sometimes the bezel on the grey looks bigger or smaller but I think it’s just the scaling of the game as well? It’s very odd

[lucid silo]

(might need external power)

[mint blade]

Yeah I did on Monday's episode, but the video out wasn't playing nice. Going to mess with it some more though.

[lucid silo]

nice

[twin galleon]

3ms decode? thats crazy on a T820??

[floral gull]

Yeah, idk this is in balanced frame pacing, 20Mb stream, native resolution 120fps.

I was kinda surprised

[twin galleon]

the last time i tried streaming on a RG556, it was horrible. and the Ayaneo Pocket air was also horrible. how is this possible lol

moonlight update maybe?

[floral gull]

Maybe an updated decoder in this build of android/firmware?

[dapper lake]

Apollo/Artemis are game changers

[twin galleon]

i use that.

but derek's screenshot is moonlight

[floral gull]

no it's artemis

[twin galleon]

c2.unisoc.hevc.decoder i wonder if this is new

[floral gull]

But no special settings used

[floral gull]

It's definitely some decoder magic. AV1 is 40ms and H264/AVC is 14ms. HEVC/h265 seems to be the special sauce

[twin galleon]

man wow. so those older devices might work now

[somber totem]

Great review. I do agree that it's a bit too much when you consider exactly what it's great at

[twin galleon]

nice find!

[twin galleon]

wonder what decode is on the Mangmi X lol

[floral gull]

Side note, I realized i was in high performance. It does drop to 5-5.5ms on auto mode. Still not terrible.

rg slide had similar performance

looking back at my review

This is how bad my memory is. That this is basically an rg slide without the slider. I've totally forgotten about that handheld

[lucid silo]

me too after I played with it for a few minutes and realised I hated the ergonomics 😄

[somber totem]

The day the slide was announced I asked what was the point. I'm still asking

[floral gull]

Forgot to show case in my video. One of their better cases. Has fleeced inside.

[unreal cobalt]

I imagine the Slide is their vertical, and the 376 is the horizontal equivalent.

[floral gull]

Hm, then it's an awful vertical . Wouldn't be totally suprised to see a 476v at some point... idk

[unreal cobalt]

Yeah I think this move to flips/slides is the next step in vertical consoles so they're more compact.. Not sure how I feel about it though.

[mint venture]

yeah it's just the grey model that has them for some reason

apparently Anbernic decided it's necessary on light colors

the white slide also had them but was less offensive there imo

[floral gull]

[unreal cobalt]

On another note, I'm mighty surprised how the 476 is not that much bigger than the Air Mini.

Extra 0.5" screen for just 1cm longer and 0.3cm taller.

[mint venture]

that less about the rg476h being compact and more about the air mini being unnecessarily bulky imo

they could have made it smaller but went with full blown ergos instead

[mint venture]

if you order the gray DMG it will, otherwise it will not

[azure basin]

Man do I get this and replace my RPMini?

[open mantle]

I mean if you like the screen and ergonomics and don't care if it's less powerful than yes?

[azure basin]

That’s what I’m thinking, I like the bigger screen. It will be my middle man device. Between my brick and Odin 2 Portal

I really like the mini, but that screen is just tad too small, especially for gba

[open mantle]

The screen looks nice

I almost want it but I don't need it

[azure basin]

None of us really need it lol

But

Yeah I’m feeling the same

[open mantle]

For sure lol

[azure basin]

Having a good 4:3 screen gotta be everyone’s lineup for retro device enthusiasts

[open mantle]

Yeah

I don't have a powerful 4:3

So that's why I'm tempted

But I just bought an O3 and Pocket Fit... So I already spent money lol

[azure basin]

Dang

They are bringing the heat in this niche rn

But I’m thinking I pick this up tomorrow

Also black frame insertion is just gonna be better for this type of device

[open mantle]

Yeah 120hz screen is nice

[azure basin]

The only thing that would make me regret buying this if retroid came out with their revised retroid pocket mini

But I don’t think that will happen for awhile

[open mantle]

Yeah that's probably still a year ish away

Maybe a little less

[mint venture]

I could see it before Christmas

they don't have anything new lined up yet

[azure basin]

I think it will release with the RP6 tbh

But who knows, cuz that screen is being custom made

[open mantle]

Well they said a year out and that was like 4-5 months ago?

Maybe less?

And that's just for the screen

But maybe I'm mis-remembering

[mint blade]

Going live in 20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzkW0mWqS2M

[unreal cobalt]

Hooray for gray

[peak chasm]

Lol, the air mini is $70

The rg 476h is $150

There goes the anbernic sales

Ayneo will sell 10,000 units in a month

[unreal cobalt]

Different target demographic IMO. The Pocket Air will go after RP Classic sales

[peak chasm]

Many people want a bigger screen than the 4,0 inch 4:3. a $70 4,2 inch is a nice step. Plays all 2d retrogames

[frigid sequoia]

12nm SoC

battery life on the pocket air mini is probably gonna be its achilles heel

[shrewd prairie]

wont be

it will reach max consumption only in x86 and switch

also u can limit it manually

[frigid sequoia]

12nm not 12w tdp

[shrewd prairie]

in this case it mean only higher heat

[frigid sequoia]

there are exceptions of course but generally larger node = worse performance per watt

[frigid sequoia]

what

[shrewd prairie]

12nm vs 6nm, nothing else

[frigid sequoia]

every watt of heat generated is a watt of energy used and vice versa

there is no way to have more heat without burning through your battery faster

[shrewd prairie]

o_O

[frigid sequoia]

that's conservation of energy

[shrewd prairie]

it consume the same wattage as g99 on regular load

[shrewd prairie]

!

[frigid sequoia]

that is simply not true

the g99 is a 6nm SoC

far more advanced process node

[shrewd prairie]

:/ nvm

[bronze jolt]

This looks like perfect 4:3 device finally, what I’d hoped the 405m would be and with an even better screen. Dpad top, analog triggers and plastic

[orchid shard]

Bout to give this a watch. Saw you make a comment ab not many people watching your videos and fell into a rabbit hole. You do a great job. Will def be on the lookout for your reviews

[orchid shard]

Already into it and just came from the GKD review. If that thing runs ps1 just about perfect, justifying this 476h when you mention it struggling to do ps2/GC is hard and a big turn off

[floral gull]

It was kinda tongue in cheek but thank you

[orchid shard]

You got a good voice and a good knowledge base. Nothing too in your face I know everything like some others can be 👀
I will keep you in mind, my business partner and I have been discussing entering the handheld world. Could use input from guys like you to get going, you’d be paid of course

[unique forge]

re games are fine. ps2 nfs mw is fine, but for underground 2(possibly even carbon and hot pursuit 2) you're going to want the windows versions

those run much better

[mint blade]

RH aff links

Anbernic: https://rh-go.link/RG476H

AliExpress: https://rh-go.link/Anbernic-RG476H_AE

It might be worth trying this code on Ali, but unlikely it will work for this listing: AEUS26

[fleet stag]

Man, such a nice impressions video! Thank you for that!
Now I definitely know, which color to get. Black!

[placid thorn]

Early 476s are off the table because 20€ coupons are out

[lucid silo]

Got my puple dev unit

I like the feel of this over the 477

currently dumping the firmware

[compact crystal]

Yes I’ve seen it… Another argument for me to wait. I’ve purchased some music gear instead 😅

[bronze jolt]

Does it go on sale in 30 minutes ?

[patent compass]

According to anbernic, yes

[unreal cobalt]

It's already live on AliExpress

Discount codes work

[dark laurel]

Really hope we get a mix of the 477 and 476 at some point. Chip from 477 in 467 body is the dream

[peak chasm]

I am in europe, 156 euro is best price i get

Anyone got a better one?

[bronze jolt]

Hmm blue or retro

[peak chasm]

Black

[bronze jolt]

Nahhh

[peak chasm]

Which code dinu use?

[upbeat yoke]

that's basically what I'd be paying incl. shipping

[peak chasm]

Yes, the $16 discount works, 20 euro does not

[echo cargo]

Not seeing the 15 off EB price

[bronze jolt]

Aliexpress saver worth doing? Can you cancel after?

[upbeat yoke]

if I got it direct through Anbernic it's like $30 nzd cheaper, I think because AliExpress charge tax based on NZ law

[peak chasm]

IFPK7WQA

[upbeat yoke]

wondering if I should chance it, it could always get stopped at customs

[peak chasm]

That is the code thatbworks : IFPK7WQA

#16 off

[safe barn]

Check out Anbernics official store on eBay, It auto applied a coupon for $30. Got it for 175 with a bag and free shipping

[bronze jolt]

In their eBay it’s cheaper to buy it with an sd card 😅

[dark laurel]

Last time i used ebay anbernic store they shipped via dhl. Be careful

So i got import charges

[bronze jolt]

Ahh yeah I’ll leave it

[echo cargo]

So is the $15 off EB only through their website and not Ali store?

[upbeat yoke]

ended up going direct through Anbernic, shipping via 4px

hopefully it doesn't take forever

[patent compass]

No, it's probably going up 15 euro after 3 days. How much it costs for you right now? Is it after tax? Is delivery listed as free?

[echo cargo]

Ali shows $165 free shipping their website shows $150 but shipping is $25

[patent compass]

Yeah they baked in the shipping

It's gonna be 180 after early bird on ali

[echo cargo]

I’m in the US btw so I’m guessing it’s not really “free shipping”

[patent compass]

That too

Honestly no clue how aliexpress and sellers handle US tariffs

[peak chasm]

In am in Europe, my country 21% VAT , i paid 157 shipped Ali Anbernic Direct

173 ali price, 2 euro coins discount automatic and $16 ali coupon

Price is inc shipping in vat

[upbeat yoke]

I'm in NZ, it was going to be $305 ($180 usd-ish) through Ali incl. sales tax and shipping. Direct through Anbernic no sales tax, but shipping, cost $290 ($165ish)

I wanted to get something for between 250 and 300 so I'm happy, it fits my budget

[echo cargo]

Well with coupons Ali was still cheaper for me and I got a bag

Oh you know what the baked in shipping helped me because I got to use a $20 coupon because of it. Now I see it without baked in shipping and the coupons only $16

[delicate ledge]

I got it for 150+15 shipping, not bad

[delicate ledge]

Hell yes, so keen to see what you have coming for this

[delicate ledge]

Your video helped a lot in my purchase decision 🙂

[compact crystal]

Where did you find this code?

[silent matrix]

I got AEUS32 to work and got the 476H for $142.xx shipped

[placid thorn]

Folded due to the $23 coupon "IFPLFQ69", putting it down to 160€ with BAG, fully vatted and shipped

Not a great deal for a t820, considering I paid 195€ for the 477m, but that was like 35€ less than it actually would cost due to some tax evasion

[low tartan]

I got it for about the same. Your state has lower sales tax though.

I think I paid $148 with the bag

[compact crystal]

Where this coupon comes from?

[silent matrix]

RH DEALS

[low tartan]

This Reddit spreadsheet has a bunch of coupon codes you can try

[placid thorn]

Just search for coupons here, they always post some

[bronze jolt]

How do you know if vatted?

Still not sure on which colour

[mint venture]

alright folks, retro gray, yes or no?

@mint blade help me decide 😂

[placid thorn]

Because Anbernic will show a price adjustment when the order isn't vatted

[shrewd prairie]

nfs decent (imo not playable), re1 playable

[bronze jolt]

Think I’ll go black, will be playing some psp gba on this

[echo cargo]

I went out of my all black everything comfort zone and went with grey

@mint blade would be interested to know if you guys hear anything from the Rep on the video output. Awesome live stream!

[hexed fern]

It should run the pc versions of nfs:u/u2 pretty decent

[mint blade]

The grey looks nice, almost aya retro power, almost 😆

[mint blade]

Thanks! I'll let you know. Hopefully OTA since they showed it with a dual screen in the ads.

[mint blade]

Oh hell yeah!

[mint blade]

Ah perfect! We are about to get some custom RH coupons issued as well.

We'll post when ready

[bronze jolt]

Black one ordered £138 with bag

[floral gull]

No.

[austere goblet]

indigo

[austere goblet]

All these work. AEUS32 is a one time use and Veddy got to use it.

[mint venture]

bezel not a problem?

[mint blade]

The AE coupons have a use limit but its a lot higher than 1 😆

[mint blade]

It's a thin black bezel and I don't think much about it. The Black might look best if bezel is main concern visually.

[dapper lake]

I don't think there's a bad color in the group

they all look good

[austere goblet]

When I tried it said it was one time use.

[mint blade]

That just means you've used it before with your account.

This code has been active for a long time, months I believe.

[austere goblet]

Then I was wrong.

[mint blade]

Eh I had to confirm that myself to make sure I wasn't crazy (I am, but not in this way)

[austere goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/portlandia-portland-candiandtoni-womenandwomenfirst-fredarmison-gif-5405695

[mint blade]

But they do run out, and then the AE's us team restocks. I'm not sure on the international ones.

[austere goblet]

IFPK7WQA worked for me.

[mint blade]

AEUS26 is another one to try. Let me see where our RH US codes are, maybe we can activate them today.

[lucid silo]

unbricker done

[austere goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-mad-lad-pewdiepie-pewds-pewpewpies-pewdie-gif-10799415

[dapper lake]

https://tenor.com/view/letgo-lets-goooo-pickles-lets-go-excited-gif-13808708

[mint blade]

HE'S DONE IT AGAIN

[dapper lake]

I did ask Anbernic if they will be issuing an update for the video out

[austere goblet]

Best 10 dollars I spend ever month is to Gamma.

[lucid silo]

And to confirm, the bootloader unlock exploit still does work.
Added unbricker here: https://github.com/TheGammaSqueeze/Bootloader_Unlock_Anbernic_T820

[floral gull]

Does this mean NEXT is coming to 476h

[lucid silo]

https://tenor.com/view/millhouse-simpsons-eyebrows-gif-10748980

yes

let me see if I can get it loaded up today and demonstrate some features

stock firmware is actively blocking root now by the way (it doesn't come rooted anymore)

gamma@gamma-sff:/work/GammaOSNextDistribution-A14$ adb install gammaos/magisk/magisk.apk
Performing Streamed Install
adb: failed to install gammaos/magisk/magisk.apk: Failure [INSTALL_FAILED_INVALID_APK: app is in the blacklist packageName]

anyway see ya'll in a while

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-homer-simpson-gif-13518564799186478937

[austere goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/okay-bye-anna-frozen-gif-4958067

[mint blade]

https://tenor.com/view/good-luck-captain-america-salute-steve-rogers-chris-evans-gif-16972665

[azure basin]

I gotta ask @dapper lake @mint blade if you guys hold back to back the 476H and the RPMini, which do you think is more comfortable and is it that big of a gap?

I think I want this over the mini to fill that mid level retro device use case. The screen + front facing buttons are the big pushers for me, but I absolutely adore the Minis ergonomics

[mint blade]

For me, comfort wise I prefer the 476H for its larger screen and quiet face buttons, but screen quality (OLED) and performance / compatibility goes to the RP Mini

[azure basin]

Yeah that sells me lol. I like the Oled but the screen size is a bit small for me. I only need up to a little bit of GameCube, so this is perfect if the economics are comparable. Odin 2 Portal for everything else above. Thank you!

And honestly, the device being OLED scares me away from using overlays on games that aren’t exactly 4:3. The screen for size, freedom of overlay use (IPS) and 120hz for black frame insertion is really something for that price.

[mint blade]

For sure! They did good with this one.

[brittle pelican]

under $150 shipped is a very good price for this one

[dark laurel]

sigh goddammit

Im so weak 😫

[placid thorn]

one of us, one of us

[dark laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/high-five-lets-go-lets-get-it-tap-in-lock-in-gif-8520440173363643767

[floral gull]

Yeah in my review I said $30 less would have made it a much better price point, IMO

[floral gull]

https://tenor.com/view/spock-nod-concur-agree-yes-gif-26947394

[glacial wigeon]

I ordered the purple thing

[mint blade]

How dare you, also nice color choice!

[glacial wigeon]

Did someone say quiet buttons. Thats rad

[floral gull]

Yes, they are very nice

[mint blade]

I'm also becoming the weirdo that might prefer higher refresh rate over screen type because of local streaming

[dark laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/boss-gatsby-cheers-leonardo-di-caprio-great-gatsby-gif-6982605735130831830

[floral gull]

I'm an OLED stan most of the time. But more so for pc handhelds, tablets, etc. I think for smaller retro handhelds I can give a pass to a good lcd. Most retro games aren't gonna look that much worse (unless it's a super dark game).

[mint blade]

Artemis/Apollo at 120hz is fantastic

But when we start seeing more of the 120hz OLED screens, GAME OVER BBY

[floral gull]

Odin 3 waiting intensifies

[mint blade]

Yeah i'm with you on that one, smaller screens work well for this.

[placid thorn]

I have no qualms with a good LCD, OLED is nice, but Anbernics 4.7" panel is pretty neat

[mint blade]

100%

[placid thorn]

now we just need more 1440p panels like on the Pocket S2

[mint blade]

[azure basin]

Local streaming is game changing. It’s literally the reason I’m selling my steam deck in here lol

[placid thorn]

which is also a pretty neat LCD panel, albeit 120hz would have arguably been nice

[mint blade]

But on smaller panels i'm good with 1080p, KONKR Fit looks very nice

[placid thorn]

I mean 6.3" is already on the bigger side of things for "handhelds" IMO

[mint blade]

Its 144hz unless that's just the 8 Elite variant

[placid thorn]

both

[floral gull]

The screen on this doesn't look too bad even with borders

[azure basin]

You can also slap an overlay on it too, and not have to worry about burn in on an LCD

[placid thorn]

yeah, I'm glad my Pocket ACE ain't OLED, because GBA needs a grid

[mint blade]

Yes!! I kept investing in faster and better windows handhelds, and now i've switched gears to beefing up my main PC and everything is a client device

[floral gull]

https://tenor.com/view/mando-way-this-is-the-way-mandalorian-star-wars-gif-18467370