AyaNeo Pocket Air Mini

[zenith breach]

um, up to switch (light-mid) ps2 heavy (like GOW) in 30/40 fps lock

x86 some

even stuff latest like silksong

1gb ram extra u need for switch, x86, android

or long time session in ps2 heavy games

[rustic edge]

Thanks!

[zenith breach]

uw

[warm merlin]

no switch.

too much for this

light-mid ps2 and gamecube

[sweet veldt]

https://youtu.be/a_N8xtNHyDU?si=tFAcsh_m1DvJ8U-5

https://youtu.be/R0FAZ1jI410?si=Cp273Nn93qowpNUD

https://youtu.be/jkpHUyd6QQ8?si=qJgSmvBVVbSzVJE7

https://youtu.be/0M4qnnyo2MI?si=3qAMxmzpqQap0hYj

[fiery meteor]

AYANEO POCKET AIR MINI

Campaign LIVE

<t:1760702400:F>

Time auto adjust according to your PC timezone

[still nacelle]

It gives Android a little more headroom which is always nice

[umbral ruin]

What the est delivery time frame for international buyers? The live stream only mentioned domestic orders are going out this month.

[haughty acorn]

Depends on your location. Taking customs into account, I'd say 1 to 4 weeks for most countries.

I'm in western Europe. Stuff sent through regular post from China takes about 10-15 days to arrive.

There are always exceptions, I got a package after 9 weeks last year. It got stuck several times but ended up arriving. And it wasn't anything fancy or expensive, I think it just got randomly flagged at various points. 🤷‍♂️

As a rule, don't order stuff from the other side of the planet if you have a deadline.

[urban notch]

Current China Pre-Orders by Color and Sizes SKUs

ICYMI

[twin flower]

Retro Power for me would probably be NA SNES. 😂

Also, it'd be great if the 3GB model was 99-100%.

[twilit fog]

the green shoulders on retro power kinda throw me off

i know it is supposed to be like the dmg screen

but still seems kinda weird to me

[umbral ruin]

I worded it wrong. I meant when are they planning to ship the devices.

[empty minnow]

They're green?! I thought they were gray, wtf

[twilit fog]

grayish green

[waxen quartz]

I almost wanna buy one just to support ayaneo’s foray into the affordable market

This would also be the cheapest way to get into the retro power elite status

[still nacelle]

If this gateways ayaneo into doing more budget stuff I'm 100% on board

[empty minnow]

Ew.

[storm prairie]

I’m getting 2 of these

Black and retro power

[turbid quarry]

Why 2?

[cloud falcon]

Wasn't it supposed to be today?

[kindred lantern]

Indiegogo site has planned downtime, so release got delayed

[cloud falcon]

Ah

https://tenor.com/view/how-to-steal-that-cat-gif-11741208861580011364

Convenient

[sweet veldt]

One for each hand

the 3Gb model is the one I'm interested in

[left grove]

In getting the 3gb Retro Power

[upper coyote]

Any emulation we need 3G for? Or just the occasional android indie game this can run?

[zenith breach]

x86, light switch, long ps2 sessions in heavy games

[storm prairie]

Why one

[turbid quarry]

Because moneh

[storm prairie]

Money comes and goes

[zealous kettle]

I'll look at this device again in 2028 when they release I can deal with AyaNeo

[kindred lantern]

What's the ship date eta on this bad boy?

[hexed jackal]

I believe it'll be around Nov-Dec, assuming no ayaneo related delays

[sweet veldt]

So tomorrow is IGG right ?

[woven vale]

https://tenor.com/view/yup-dale-doback-step-brothers-yes-i-agree-gif-1579811350903017250

Hopefully they will have enough early birds 😅

[sweet veldt]

As long as they have the 3GB model available IM good

[twin flower]

I know as soon as I pick this up, trimui will formally announce a 4:3 horizontal that looks slick.

[cloud falcon]

What's the other option? 4?

[wintry flame]

Is this anticipated to run PS2 decently?

[sweet veldt]

2Gb with 32Gb of storage which is kind of sad to see but understandable since they wanted a certain price point

Unfortunately no 4GB ram option

[zenith breach]

no point to be

[sweet veldt]

Depends what you consider decently but better than I thought it would be

https://youtu.be/twMDDy4WAs0?si=iv4-fymK0C6S5TU4

Damn I hate linking NTTRX video’s but this is the only one I can find that shows a lot PS2 ganes

[zenith breach]

with frame limits yes. if game heavy

[main wagon]

what time each sales lasted? like 1 week for early bird etc.

[sweet veldt]

Usually yes but can be extended like the Konkr was

[blissful jacinth]

whats gonna be the price?

[blissful jacinth]

damn thats some competetive prices

[kindred lantern]

It's Friday the 17th for me, where buy

[mental haven]

igg but I don’t think the link is up yet

I‘m sure someone will send the link here once orders open up

[limpid galleon]

and we still have no info about what SKU Pocket S2 backers will receive
@mighty mist could you ask them on our behalf, because they don't care to respond

[twin flower]

What's the typical IGG shipping cost to the US? $20?

Trying to see how close this is to $100, "all in"...

[haughty acorn]

The Mangmi Air X is ~12€ shipping to the EU, so I'm pretty sure Ayaneo got a quote for under $20 to the US.

That's without various taxes.

[twin flower]

Good to know. I haven't bought a Chinese handheld since the Retroid Pocket Classic, which was pre tarrifs.

Well, maybe not, but I think they ate any additional costs.

[haughty acorn]

Heh. "Chinese handheld" 😄

[twin flower]

Lol you know what I meant!

[haughty acorn]

As if there were any other kinds 🙂

[twin flower]

Handheld shipped from China

[haughty acorn]

I'm messing with you. 😄

[twin flower]

I just bought a Steam Deck, it shipped from Illinois. 😂

At $100, this is an impulse buy for me. If taxes, fees and bonus charges start adding up, I'll probably pass.

[haughty acorn]

I get that.

I ordered the Mangmi Air X for that precise reason.

(it was either the Ayaneo or the Mangmi, and I wanted a 16:9 screen)

[twin flower]

The Mangmi looks great. I wanted the Retroid Pocket Classic for PS1 exclusively. The screen is amazing, but it's not super comfortable to play. My hope is this runs PS1 + some solid shaders just fine and I'll sell the RPC.

[haughty acorn]

Makes sense.

I want the 16:9 for some light Android gaming and (maybe someday) Portmaster.

Stuff like Dead Cells is pretty much unplayable on a touchscreen, IMO

[mental haven]

Maybe you‘ll get an answer if you join their exclusive WeChat group for vip customers.

Not sure if you have enough retro power to qualify though

[haughty acorn]

They have "VIP customers" ?!

[mental haven]

https://tenor.com/view/wonderfulduck-woahhduck-bduck-surprisedduck-blush-gif-12525307

[muted marsh]

If you want a b duck edition you better be a vip

[sweet veldt]

If you want the higher end model just tell them you'll send them the extra $10

IGG's new look update looks like ass

[hot wolf]

https://www.indiegogo.com/en/projects/ayaneo/pocket-air-mini-first-4-3-retro-screen-handheld

[sour shard]

After update can't login to my accont, wtf

[haughty acorn]

Have you seen the YouTube redesign ?

It's like websites are going backwards. 🤷‍♂️

[sweet veldt]

Stopped using YT after being bombarded with multiple ads constantly, is it that bad ?

[sweet veldt]

With a new update they send you a code to confirm it's you now , it's stupid

[sour shard]

Not received yet any code, hopefully it will be sorted out later🙏

[shadow swan]

this does not compete with the 406h or rgCube, but it comes close

close enough to do vita, 3ds, and wii without many issues

[sour shard]

Did you get email after tried to login?

[sweet veldt]

Yes

[sour shard]

Even tried option to restore password, but not getting any of emails:/

[sweet veldt]

I think it does though, while it might not perform as good as the 406H it's still much cheaper and performance doesn't reflect its price

[sweet veldt]

Are you in the US ?

[sour shard]

No, in EU

[shadow swan]

you hit a low ceiling with android gaming and emulation though with that 3gb ram constraint

[sweet veldt]

Might take some time to sort out for EU

[shadow swan]

it's like Krillin vs. Goku. at a certain point, it stops leveling up

[sweet veldt]

True , but you also need realistic expectations with the hardware you buy , it does punch above it's weight for the price

[shadow swan]

g90t is a good place to be for 4:3 systems and 3ds.

[sweet veldt]

If your looking for play the more popular Android games it might struggle but did play Genshin in the live stream

[shadow swan]

genshin also worked on the 3gb RP3

[sweet veldt]

Never had a RP3 was that a T618 ? Point is for emulation it should be fine even doing a lot of PS2 and GC , but if your buying it for Android gaming there are better but more expensive options like the RG 476H/406H but again at almost double the cost

[shadow swan]

t310

[runic needle]

I can’t log in any more, I don’t receive the code. I hate new design.

[sharp shell]

Lately, I’ve been addicted to playing Winning Eleven 3 Final Version (PS1). It’s got me thinking about buying Air Mini to upscale the game to HD resolution

I can’t do that with my XF40H, and honestly, the buttons on the Air Mini are definitely better than the XF40H’s, right?

If the total price including shipping is under $100, that’d be perfect — but once it goes over $100, there are just too many other options. Like, at $150 you can already get the RP4 Pro

[rich zinc]

Yeah I am not getting a code either when I try to login.

[sweet veldt]

And for another $50 you can get a RP5 , when does it stop but I get what your saying

[sharp shell]

$200 probably isn’t the lowest price we’ll see for the RP5 — I’ll wait for it to drop like the RP4 Pro did. For me, it’s worth waiting, since I just need something with a chip around Snapdragon 865 level — that’s enough to run PES 2013 on Winlator with high graphics and install PES Edit. The newer, more powerful chips actually don’t work as well because they don’t support 32-bit

[woven vale]

Also not getting a code 🙄

[stiff hatch]

Anyone getting this in spite of having the RG476H already, and if so why? I mean, have you found another different practical use for it?

[sharp shell]

To play games from PS1 and below, the RG476H is for PS2 and above. Reducing usage time will make the RG476H last longer

just kidding, mate

[stiff hatch]

Lol... 😅

[runic needle]

Still can’t log into indigogo. Might miss the super early bird. Hate this new format too.

[sharp shell]

Do you guys think it can run PES6 on PS2 at full speed, 50/60fps?

[woven vale]

Same! Still cant login. No code being sent

[runic needle]

I’m in Australia, not sure that makes a difference. Really want to order this tonight so I don’t have to wait to get it next year to get it sent out.

[woven vale]

There isn’t even a way to contact indiegogo to let them know in a timely manner

[main barn]

yes the battle of the mid tier device began
pocket mini vs mangmi air x
both launching around the same time.
2025 is a great year for retro handheld

[sharp shell]

I've tried the Air X, and now I'm pretty excited about the Air mini

[main barn]

are u buying

[sharp shell]

I'm waiting for it to go on sale on Taobao. Buying from there is much faster than through the official website

Oh, I’ve been playing this game nonstop for the past few days and never get bored. I think the Air Mini will be perfect for this game — it can scale up to a high resolution and rotate the screen to share with friends

[main barn]

obviously pocket mini will be more powerful than air x
but for winlator, will air x better because got turnip driver?

[sharp shell]

From the information I’ve found, that’s correct — the Mangmi Air X is better for Winlator because it supports the Turnip driver. Meanwhile, the G90T, which appeared on the Redmi Note 8 Pro, couldn’t even use Vortek and had to rely on Virgil instead, which seems to reduce its performance. There’s a clip of the G90T running PES 2013, and honestly, it performs much worse than the Mangmi Air X with the Snapdragon 662. The G90T only manages around 20–30 fps, while the Snapdragon 662 on the Air X, from my own experience, runs steadily at 50–60 fps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0pZ_Z9FmPA

[main barn]

driver can make so much different really amazing??

[tepid lava]

New to ayaneos weird system with indigogo if I back today how long will it take till it gets shipped?

[sharp shell]

Exactly, I’ve also played PES 2013 through Winlator on the RG556. And you know, the T820 is much more powerful than the Snapdragon 662, but the performance in that game isn’t all that different

[main barn]

as indiegogo is pre order system, they can really take their time but they do promise certain date like maybe end October.

[tepid lava]

Oh okay thank you very much ^^

[sharp shell]

It seems like it’s already started selling on Taobao

[woven vale]

Sign in with google or apple seems to work

If you use same email it lets you in

No code needed

[runic needle]

Thanks, used the apple sign in with the same email and it worked 👍

[woven vale]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-sweet-hell-yes-pump-it-gif-15843162157733678

[kindred lantern]

I am able to login but I don't really understand how to pre setup my address and payment info

[woven vale]

Not long now 🤪

[sharp shell]

40mins, right?

[woven vale]

Yep well even sooner now 😅

[blissful jacinth]

what do yall think about device for streaming?

[sweet veldt]

There are better devices for streaming and personally think if that's your main use case get something with a bigger 16:9 screen

[kindred lantern]

how do I pick the colour? it's on the next screen

[haughty acorn]

I really don't understand why anyone would buy a 4:3 screen for streaming. 🤨

[kindred lantern]

Pledge is completed

[woven vale]

You can only order one now :/

[atomic moat]

so shipping fee is not even decided yet...?

and i dont see any payment options other than card, or is that region specific..?

[sturdy zinc]

The price is even slightly cheaper than in China

[runic needle]

No shipping details…. pass.

[sturdy zinc]

But yeah shipping fee is a big question mark

[past summit]

Subtotal (net):
HK$628.00
Shipping cost (net):

Tax (No):
HK$0.00
Total pledged:
HK$628.00

Done 👍

[woven vale]

Figured out how to do 2! What a headache

[atomic moat]

they dont deduct immediately now...

means i cant even be sure its wont be blocked/cancelled by my bank later when they do proceed with the charge

[twin flower]

Oooof. What's the IGG cancellation policy if shipping or tariffs end up being way higher when it's time to release?

[kindred lantern]

two of different colourways?

[woven vale]

Yeah

[woven vale]

But you cant order 2 cases 😫

[sweet veldt]

Done , now to wait

[twin flower]

I was getting bummed out on the tariffs subreddit last night. People getting bills after shipment for the actual duty fee PLUS processing fees from the shipper. :/

[past summit]

Shipping details and fees aren't collected at this stage. The project creator will ask you to settle the shipping cost at a later date.

Now that sucks 😞

[atomic moat]

when you submit the order they gave you a backer number, but i cant see that number anywhere when you navigate the pledge section

[woven vale]

Actually no you cant. Cant allow 2

Keeps saying error

[kindred lantern]

gotta sign up for two igg accounts lol

[woven vale]

Screw that

[atomic moat]

you have to "edit pledge" and add new item

[woven vale]

Just getting the one out of me then

[woven vale]

Didnt work

Says has to be changed back to 1 of each

[sweet veldt]

It tells you backer number in the confirmation email you receive

[atomic moat]

ya. just stupid not to able to see it anywhere on the site

[kindred lantern]

I can see it on the site

[sweet veldt]

It is but the new IGG update is ass

[atomic moat]

how/where?

[kindred lantern]

on the project page, under the goal/funding/backers progress info

I hope this thing ships in Nov and not at the end of Dec when I'm out of town visiting my folks

[woven vale]

No email confirmation 🙄

New IGG really does suck

[atomic moat]

how many payment options do you all see?

[kindred lantern]

only one for credit card

[woven vale]

Just credit card nothing else

[kindred lantern]

I can't believe I've basically just bought the first 4:3 retro handheld

[strong marsh]

so what are the hsipping costs? will they also include tax?

[atomic moat]

they removed unionpay support for card. i remember there was a few different payment options (other than card) previously as well

[atomic moat]

some aya rep mention "around 20 usd" previously in their discord, not sure if differs for country.

[limpid galleon]

I will just wait for my "free" one and will be mad if it's not the 3+64 SKU and the color ain't black

[sweet veldt]

We don't know yet but I'm going to ask if they can ship it together with my Konkr Fit order to save on shipping costs, if they can . Doesn't matter if it will take longer

[atomic moat]

backers lower than i expected, or all stumped by the new igg

[twin flower]

smart move

[woven vale]

Grrr i really wanted 1x black and 1x white 🤦‍♂️

[twin flower]

No confirmation email here, but I did get a backer #.

[woven vale]

Same

[limpid galleon]

middle of the day here in Europe, people are at work

[woven vale]

Most cant login still

[kindred lantern]

I was able to get a confirmation email

[limpid galleon]

Fair, new IGG looks ass too

[twin flower]

They should have just included the case and "HD film." 🙂

[kindred lantern]

I'm just glad those were only like a dollar or two and not 9.99 like anbernic does

[limpid galleon]

How much is the case btw?

[woven vale]

Wonder if i should order another mangmi seeing as i cant order 2 of these 😅🤪

[twin flower]

it was like $1

[kindred lantern]

Pocket AIR Mini Storage bag
Quantity: 1
HK$12.51

[limpid galleon]

Grab a One35 instead

[woven vale]

Dont tempt me

[limpid galleon]

What's that even in real currency... $2?

[ember lily]

Whoaaa what did igg do?! I'm not sure I'm a fan of the change

[twin flower]

It was less than $2.

[kindred lantern]

in canadian it was like 2 dollars lol

[limpid galleon]

I bought two

[limpid galleon]

Man, they really should have included that... 😅

[stiff hatch]

when do they ship these?

[limpid galleon]

December most likely

Pocket S2 folks are those who get it first and they said that's for November

[stiff hatch]

hm... do I want retro power or do I go black...

[twin flower]

I'll def. cancel though if Trump actually hits us with 130% tariffs, or shipping ends up being well over $25-30.

$100-110 "all in" is the sweet spot for this device, for me.

[limpid galleon]

i gotta mail AYA later to ask if I can make sure to get a black 3+64 unit and a case in exchange for their $30 store voucher, I guess... still stupid how they haven't clarified anything further yet

[limpid galleon]

They said they will use 4PX for this, so $20 and low risk of being hit by tariffs

[dawn sphinx]

don't see pre-order on website

where to buy it, guys?

[atomic moat]

https://www.indiegogo.com/en/projects/ayaneo/pocket-air-mini-first-4-3-retro-screen-handheld

[vestal flame]

yeah without knowing shipping costs upfront that's annoying

[atomic moat]

i prefer the older site where money is deducted from the card almost ASAP rather than the approach now where I can't even confirm it will go through when they deduct

[twin flower]

I'm just hopeful we know shipping details/costs before the campaign ends to have time to cancel before being charged.

[proud dock]

I threw both accessories in without thinking and then realised the price afterwards. Do they normally charge so little for a case?

[haughty acorn]

How much is it ?

[fervent mica]

So now they only charge you after the campaign succeeds? That’s even better

And it looks like refunds use the same currency exchange rate as your original payment

Finally, no more losing $100 after canceling an Indiegogo order

[vestal flame]

now that is a good change

[atomic moat]

will have to monitor when the campaign close if the payment did get through or not though

previously you have issue you will know on the spot or within an hour at the max

[atomic moat]

Where is this mentioned?

[fervent mica]

https://help.indiegogo.com/article/584-indiegogo-currency-conversion-how-to-use-it-to-pay-for-a-pledge

[atomic moat]

Oh I didn't use their currency version, just let it charge in hkd.
For me usually if make overseas purchase and let the merchant do the conversion there is usually a Dynamic Currency Conversion (DCC) fee, plus exchange rates usually unfavorable as well when compared to bank/card.

[proud dock]

Like $2ish for the case and screen protector

Oh wait they’ve updated the prices. I think they set the wrong currency initially so it was $8 HK for the screen protector instead of $8 USD?

[wintry flame]

When did this go up exactly I'm number 385 and the day just started

[atomic moat]

hope they will honor the accessories prices for the earlier orders, else i will just cancel the screen protector, they usually charge quite alot lesser for it on their domestic stores later

[limpid galleon]

How much is the case now? 😅

[granite cargo]

Do I have to pay additional shipping fees?

[limpid galleon]

You will

[sharp shell]

[atomic moat]

12.51 usd / 98 HKD

[cloud falcon]

I joined but probably won't keep. Thor is just gonna do everything I need at this point

Might just be done with android 😆

[strong marsh]

Same and Same, the only good thing is that I managed to snag the case at the lower price 😉

[vestal flame]

thats what they all say 😄

[sharp shell]

[sharp shell]

true

[haughty acorn]

If the Thor gets a Rocknix build, you might be. 🙂

[cloud falcon]

Yeah. I mean I'll always dabble in x86

But android I pretty much only really want to emulate up to switch. And we're already there. I guess one day I'll wanna go up to switch 2

[haughty acorn]

Weirdly I want Android to… also play Android games.

[limpid galleon]

Ehh, I will pass

[haughty acorn]

(I know, I know… blasphemy.)

But not big stuff like COD or Genshin

I want to play Baba Is You, or Hyperlight Drifter, or Dead Cells

(to be fair, Baba Is You is already excellent even with a touchscreen… smashing game, really)

[charred linden]

A lot of android ports I have tried aren't great because you can't get rid of the touch screen overlay. Like they think nobody is using a controller with an android phone or tablet

[haughty acorn]

Oh ?

Which ones ?

[charred linden]

Dungeon Clawler and Slay the Spire were the first two I wanted to try as I bought them on my play account but nope, emulation is actually better 🤣

[vestal flame]

odd, i didn't have that issue on my dungeon clawler

[charred linden]

Hmm I need to try again then.

[muted root]

Not sure how comfortable I am that they have my credit card details and can charge whatever they want for most and maybe even tax.Much preferred the other way you know what you paid and they don't keep your details.

Post

[charred linden]

Tried, it does work with controls but there's a big drop button on the screen that I wish I could turn off which isn't on the steam version.

Slay the Spire just flat out doesn't work at all, touch input only.

[haughty acorn]

To be fair, Slay the Spire is not great with gamepad controls.

[limpid galleon]

man the new IGG looks like ass and is shit to use on top

[woven vale]

"Due to shipping costs, we only allow one handheld game console per order.”

Ah well

🤷🏻‍♂️

AyaNeo doesn’t want my money

🤣

[haughty acorn]

@limpid galleon I think you blocked me, but I'm not sure why… ?

[sweet veldt]

Just dropping this here because I dig the music

https://youtu.be/pW9Ql758o38?si=OncXtLFmJnwm09je

[limpid galleon]

I have no clue anymore either, guess I can unblock you

anywaaaaay, I just wrote Ayaneo to ask about what SKU Pocket S2 backers will get and if it's the 2+32gb one they should exchange their stupid store voucher against an upgrade to the 3+64gb one and a storage bag, hope they have no issue with that, as while I want this in 3+64, black and a bag, I have no intention to spend additional money on it

[empty minnow]

Oopsi, I missed the campaign start. This ship has sailed then, lol

[limpid galleon]

definitely, the case got a lot more expensive in the last 3 hours

[mighty mist]

Starts at $69.99 (nice). 3gb definitely worth the extra $10.

Pre-order: https://rh-go.link/AYANEO-Pocket-AIR-Mini_IGG

More info: https://retrohandhelds.gg/ayaneo-looks-to-shake-up-retro-gaming-with-pocket-air-mini-price-reveal/

[stiff hatch]

how long does the super early bird last?

[limpid galleon]

who knows, you can order now, IGG only charges your CC after the campaign ends now

[haughty acorn]

The bag's price changed ?

It's 11.13€ here

[limpid galleon]

yep, they corrected their fuckery

[haughty acorn]

Sorry, what fuckery ? I completely missed it. 😄

[limpid galleon]

they put it on there for 12.51HKD instead of 12.51USD

[haughty acorn]

The bag's price is a bit high but not horrible.

The "HD Protective Film" is absurdly expensive at 7.15€

[limpid galleon]

compared to AYAs other bag prices it's even quite cheap

still a nope from me

[stiff hatch]

CC?

[limpid galleon]

credit card

[stiff hatch]

oh, okay! 😮

[limpid galleon]

honestly I quite dislike the changes made to IGG 😅

[stiff hatch]

but I still haven't decided if I want the retro power or black model 😅

[mighty mist]

Yeah IGG looks very confusing now, I picked up the retro color 😄

[vestal flame]

yea the changes are iffy

[limpid galleon]

the site looks like ass, it's way worse to pick your stuff out and the charging after the campaign ends is weird, as you don't know if the charge goes trough immediately... also who knows if my CC limit won't be maxed by the time the campaign is over

[opaque egret]

Everthing went from my currency to HK dollars

Almost looks like some scam site now. The old design was much better

[atomic moat]

once payment went through later, you cannot initiate refund as well directly in the site, think need email ayaneo separately

and i cant find a email ayaneo function similar to last time in the site, though maybe its hidden somewhere

[stiff hatch]

I have the Cubexx and the rg476h now incoming both in the DMG-style... but not as much a fan of the colorway but so my gf has a harder time dstinguishing one from the other... 😅 the pocket air mini could be a different color though... 😛

[limpid galleon]

well, you probably can still cancel before they charge you?

[atomic moat]

ya, that one is possible

[limpid galleon]

why even buy it if you have an rg476h?

[atomic moat]

i was trying to cancel my konkr cannot find the refund contribution button from last time

[limpid galleon]

yeah, you will probably have to mail Aya directly for that now

[stiff hatch]

I don't know... I kinda want to experience the tactility of it 😅 I'm a sucker for that...

I've been convincing myself I don't need it, but the design kinda grew on me, too

[haughty acorn]

You're joking but I bet it can be a real problem, eg. if you pledge now and your card expires before the end of the campaign… will it be declined ?

[limpid galleon]

well, I will get the "free" one anyway, even if they decide against my inquiry of putting the useless voucher towards the better SKU and a case

[haughty shuttle]

any particular benefit with getting an extra gig of ram?

[limpid galleon]

I'm not joking, the changes make IGG really unattractive to use IMO, I rather have shit charged now than in 2 months when I don't know if I might need the CC for something else

[limpid galleon]

only if you intend to do GCN/PS2 stuff on this really

well, not that I would say 2gb RAM are ideal either

[haughty shuttle]

that was what I had in mind for this so I supposed 3gig version it is

[stiff hatch]

Wait ... Won't you have both, too? 🤨

[limpid galleon]

yeah, but I don't actively put extra money towards the Air Mini

[stiff hatch]

So for the 2nd one you're doing it "passively"? 😛

[limpid galleon]

I mean, if GCN/PS2 are your main goal this ain't the device for it at all IMO, but if you want to play some of that stuff on there, the $10 extra are well spend

[limpid galleon]

I just get the "free" Air Mini for Pocket S2 backers

[stiff hatch]

I thought you were saying you're getting 2

[haughty shuttle]

actually, yeah that is fair.

I’ll just wait and get a rg477m instead

[haughty acorn]

If you want proper PS2 I think you should look at widescreen devices. Few of the 4:3 ones have enough oomph to run PS2 flawlessly.

The 477m being an exception (but I think it's a crappy handheld for a lot of other reasons).

[limpid galleon]

477 has enough oomph, it's unfortunate that Anbernic ain't doing the 8+128 SKU for that anymore tho

[haughty shuttle]

I sort of had my mind set on a smaller 4:3 device for travel purposes

[limpid galleon]

476 is also quite okay for PS2, certainly better suited for it than the Air Mini... if you apply the frame limits and stuff like AYA does for their promos you may even get away with way more than we usually would on these

[limpid galleon]

define smaller, because the 477m is IMO not too big, in it's official case it's like a small book at worst

[haughty shuttle]

The 477m’s size was what I was thinking, but I wouldnt mind something maybe bit bigger

[limpid galleon]

I mean the 4.7" 4:3 screen already is nice and big, to eclipse that you would need something with a 6" 16:9 panel, like the THOR, Odin 3 or KONKR

[haughty shuttle]

Clamshells I wouldnt necessarily mind either, but i’d likely be waiting longer on the thor incase of any hinge issues

[storm prairie]

Ordered 2…black 2gb and a retro power 3gb awesome

[limpid galleon]

no we wouldn't as the domestic price is lower

nobody wants the 2gb version, obviously

[opaque egret]

Sure aya neo selling something with a loss 💩 like any company would do that

[storm prairie]

I’ve ordered both. A 3G and a 2G…be interesting to see the difference

[mental haven]

As long as you’re happy

[storm prairie]

Ummm yes I think so…it’s a great price for a Ayaneo device

[mental haven]

I thought getting both might be excessive but maybe you could gift the 2G version to a friend after testing ;))

[woven vale]

Do I need to inform Aya to ship using 4PX or is it default?

[woven vale]

Sweet cheers. So only email if i want it quicker?

[mental haven]

I guess so

4PX seems to be the default

@limpid galleon they don’t know themselves yet

Oh well

[mighty mist]

Further announcements will be made

[mental haven]

Further announcements will be made

[storm prairie]

I am excessive

[limpid galleon]

maybe they will ditch the 2+32 SKU entirely because nobody bought it

[mental haven]

Hit us with the slow discontinue like retroid did for the 2S and Classic

Not unlikely

[warm orbit]

I think I recall that from the TrimUI Brick channel 🙂 Did you end up buying all of the variants?

[limpid galleon]

I don't think they ever made the lower end SKU for the Classic in the first place, like they just send out the higher end one

[upper coyote]

I don’t see shipping cost mentioned anywhere. Is the shipping and tax free to CA?

[limpid galleon]

IGG changed a lot of stuff, like your CC will only be charged after the campaign ends, shipping will also be collected later... and tax is not something Ayaneo collects at all, either you get hit with it upon entry or not

honestly, I hope we won't see new handhelds on IGG anymore, because those changes all suck

[mental haven]

If Odin 3 Portal will be on IGG, I‘m cooked

[upper coyote]

Ahh thanks. Yeah I see that shipping cost is simply blank instead of saying “0” implying it is some undermined charge later.

No thanks Aya, I’ll just buy second hand. IGG is kinda annoying at this point

[woven vale]

Swap to kickstarter

Just as bad tbh

[storm prairie]

I have many....

[still nacelle]

The brick is so sleek

[warm orbit]

The Brick is basically holding me back from ordering this and/or the MagicX One35. Both look great to me, but I only want one pocket device, and the Brick Hammer is perfect for me.

[kindred lantern]

Does this mean they will ask me to pay the difference come shipping time?

[proud dock]

They seem to have caught it pretty quick so here’s hoping they treat it as a little super-super-early-bird bonus but who knows

[past fjord]

What is the major difference between 2GB and 3GB RAM, and which emulator or platform shows the most significant performance difference with 3GB RAM?

[zenith breach]

x86, switch, long session ps2 heavy tiltles

[past fjord]

Its just $10 more, so probably just get it? Looks like there are 10x more people getting the 3/64 lol

[zenith breach]

yeah 3/64 mast have

[rain pendant]

I could see the 2gb being ok later down the road if it ever drops in price, but Idk if Ayaneo really does that if at all

[empty minnow]

Does the new IGG now charge duties/vat/taxes before backing, like Ali?

[silk fractal]

so they listened to all the whiners and complainers finally huh. /jk

:p

actually still seems decent for the price point. 4500mAh battery is wild for this size.

shame the screen is such an awkward ratio. guess it makes sense for what this thing can play though.

[faint chasm]

Anyone else still having problems logging into IGG. It won't send me a code.

[silk fractal]

i signed in just fine creating a new account.

[faint chasm]

I already had one. I guess I can make a new one lol

[silk fractal]

i didn't have an account yet

[faint chasm]

Maybe I'll wait, I don't need this.

Well I was weak and got a Odin 3 and Konkr...

[silk fractal]

low price point, correct abxy, small-ish size. seems fine. but nothing to write home about

[past fjord]

How is this compared to Mangmi? This is slightly more powerful?

[silk fractal]

then again if you want a shiny new toy and you got the extra money

[silk fractal]

idk the soc in that

lemme look

oh goodness what an ugly duckling

[past fjord]

Its Snapdragon 662

[faint chasm]

I believe mangmi is more powerful

Yeah 662

[silk fractal]

g90t is much better

on paper

and probably irl

ayaneo permormance profiles and cooling are very good

so yeah this should be better than the mangmi

and much prettier too

[faint chasm]

I guess. It gets weird because of gpus. So for PS2 and GC, I don't know.

[silk fractal]

lower res screen though

[zenith breach]

G90T is much and much better vs 662

[delicate spear]

And mangmi may get Linux in the future but that is unknown

[zenith breach]

except switch, x86

bc turnip

[silk fractal]

i wouldn't play gamecube or ps2 on anything weaker than a g90

ayaneo pocket micro is good for gamecube

some ps2

but you gotta tweak some games, and use high power profile

no sense being rude about it @zenith breach

sometimes it is difficult to recall off the dome which soc is good vs which soc

i always gotta double check myself

idk, if you want small and good, just save up get the ace imo

[sweet veldt]

Rude?

[delicate spear]

He hit em with the

[silk fractal]

this thing seems like, for ppl who want to know what ayaneo is like but don't want to go all in

[faint chasm]

Oh yeah I looked g90 better then I remembered. Wild.

[silk fractal]

i already got my ayaneo stuff and have been very happy with it. this thing is cute but it isn't even that small

not worth imo

[faint chasm]

Makes sense though cause g99 is pretty good

[silk fractal]

it is

i think i am at the second wind waker temple on my pocket micro

wait, second dungeon, first temple

[faint chasm]

My first aya neo will be the Konkr. Held off till now.

[silk fractal]

after the big fiery dragon guy with bug biting his tail

[sweet veldt]

It's a great size , getting tired of tiny 3.5" screens on handhelds and this is a nice step up

[silk fractal]

i mean yeah, but like, just grab the ace if you want this size

[sweet veldt]

The Ace costs like 5x as much

[silk fractal]

idk, i might be biased bc i mostly play gba/gc and up

and much of android

so many good native android games

and ports

[rigid swallow]

Ace can do 5x as much as well

I’m being facetious but you get my point

[sweet veldt]

That's besides the point , this is a budget line but still punches above its weight

[silk fractal]

but if you want cheap there are so many better options than this. and that is coming from ayaneo #1 fangirl here

[silk fractal]

does it?

i guess we will see when the reviews hit

im sure RGC will put it to task and compare it with the appropriate competition

[rigid swallow]

I mean it looks like the performance is on par with what I would expect from a $70-80 handheld

[sweet veldt]

There are a bunch of reviews already

[silk fractal]

orly lemme go find my fav lil tech dweeb channel then and watch a video or two. lol

ive been playing batman on my switch all day

cannot believe how well the port team optimized the games for switch 1

[sweet veldt]

He did a review like a week ago

[silk fractal]

actually bonkers

[silk fractal]

ah hell yes, imma go get some popcorn and see what is up. c:

👋

[sweet veldt]

Watch out for the fire emojis,

[past fjord]

It is hard to make a call between this and mangmi, we dont know the shipping cost of this. Mangmi costs $89 to me tho.

[faint chasm]

the RP2S was budget king for along time and i think it's pretty weak compared to this.

i dont think there's much at this price that is as good

i mean there's lioke H700 and RK3566 basically this price so.....

i think this is a good item to be out there

im suprised it was aya neo to do it lol

[past fjord]

i think mangmi is a contender

[left grove]

Mangmi and XU40/50 are the main contenders

[delicate spear]

XU

Real magicx/xu fans know that they can't be competitors until preorders begin

[zenith breach]

update (g1) 172, 865 1337

purple linux, red overclock

[past fjord]

Oh G90T > 662 by a large margin

[haughty acorn]

@fallen dagger Hey man, at 4:00 on your review video you mention "L4 and R4 function buttons that can be remapped" but I don't see any mention of it anywhere else, even in the PDF manual.
Are these buttons simply undocumented ?

[main barn]

yes by 50 percent infact.
people choose pocket mini
will sure have
more playable ps2/gc/3ds.

but pocket mini, and mangmi air x are still known as mid tier chip.
they are not consider certified ps2/gc/3ds games ready unlike s865, 8 gen 2, d8300 and d1100.

they are psp/dreamcast/n64 full capability which is good for the price u are paying.

[faint chasm]

benchmarks don't always relate to real world performance

if only it was that easy to explain performance 😄

[main barn]

for the price u are paying for pocket mini and air x.
it is really very good value as u get very good psp/dreamcast/n64.
previously rk3326, h700, rk3566 all struggle with that.
people who buy either one of them as their first retro handheld is really very lucky.

[devout geyser]

Went and pledge for the device

My first ayaneo device

This compliments my rog ally

And i can put it in my mini sling

[main barn]

it really a good buy. great.

[past fjord]

I decided to jump on this (3/64) instead of Mangmi, looks like this has better performance, at least on paper, hopefully shipping cost is reasonable

[devout geyser]

Do you guys think about any compatibility issues with the chipset?

[main barn]

if winlator, air x slightly better as got driver. but for the ps2/gc/3ds u can push more games.

[sharp shell]

it't $100 now

on IGG

and rg406h new ~$130 on taobao

[limpid galleon]

John finally confirmed that Pocket S2 backers will get a 2+32gb SKU

[vestal flame]

rip 😄

[cosmic root]

instead of?

[limpid galleon]

well, I think we all hoped for a 3+64gb one

[cosmic root]

also a reminder that ayaneo CONSISTENTLY does this, people order and they change skus later because they cant afford to make them

[sharp shell]

$100 not including shipping fee is not good enough now

i can buy a new rg406h new ~ $135 total

[zenith breach]

depend which benchmark and compare to which emulator

[atomic moat]

Have they confirmed how that free screen protector gift going to be processed?

[woven vale]

Woo! You can add more than one to a pledge now

Only 1 case still though

Ahh no i just realised it changed the case + screen protector price by adding the extra one! Doh!

[vestal flame]

whoops 😄

[woven vale]

Ah well 🤦‍♂️

No longer get pricing error price lol

[wintry flame]

What's more powerful this or the 476h ?

[zenith breach]

476 ofc

but it way worst price-quality

[wintry flame]

Got you so not bang for your buck on this

Build quality is probably better on this too

[zenith breach]

um, maybe not ... i dont hear anything bad about rg476, anbernic improves quaility on 477 and 476

[wintry flame]

Bq on the 477m seems nuts

[zenith breach]

price-quality still low

u can buy rp5 for 200$ now

and play x86 stuff 😄 (with dimencity u can, but it wont be that ideal)

[wintry flame]

True

Form factor though looks really pocketable

477m internals in the plastic frame of the 476h for around 190 would be great

[limpid galleon]

I rather wait for Retroid to do a 4:3 at this point, G2 Gen2 will be more compatible beyond PS2 than the D8300

[wintry flame]

Yeah that's the thing I already got 16:9. Something that does 4:3 in a smaller form factor is so tempting

[muted marsh]

As much as I dislike their stuff, that may be the best choice

[wintry flame]

I'm just glad we are getting 4:3 options

[mental haven]

https://www.youtube.com/live/vfGosrsPTDw?si=dWXQE9f035m6Gsch

Anyone knows why they do another stream

[atomic moat]

Maybe another 2000 units sold or something .

The words mention something about uncle tail staying up in the night with you to pay off the remaining balance (I assume for their domestic preorders)

[sweet veldt]

Arthur likes doing streams

[mental haven]

https://tenor.com/view/kekw-pokimane-gif-21421511

[devout geyser]

They already have this right?

[sweet veldt]

Only handheld we know that’s going to use the G2 gen 2 is the RP6 and that’s not going to be 4:3

[zenith breach]

but they will also drop mini on this soc

after +-3 monthes i think

[main wagon]

how did they play silksong on this in the stream?

[vestal flame]

either some kind of gamehub, streaming or maybe that unofficial silksong port

[zenith breach]

easy

cpu more than enough, t820 not by much more powerful for example 🙂

for emulating x86 platformer or old stuff

[lofty verge]

https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugkx4XP1En8S9GjEiasbHfYfCg225o3ihMvz
Russ has a review unit, can't wait for his review soon.

[zenith breach]

https://youtu.be/64nXcgipK3I

[sweet veldt]

Is the swap and zram thing shown in the latest video just adding virtual memory from storage?
How does that work and does it even work well , never had the need for it

[twin flower]

Pretty wild to see twilight princess and RE:4 on such a cheap device compared to a few years ago when the RGB30 and RP2S were $90-100.

I also find it weird when these have a microphone. 🤷‍♂️

3DS emulation maybe? I'm going to pop my tinfoil hat on and disconnect it. Lol

[zenith breach]

3ds heavy like ps2

so not full

[limpid galleon]

outrageous

[mental haven]

Just take it as a gift

On the slide it says you can upgrade for 100 yuan

But john nee says you can’t

[limpid galleon]

yeah, the Chinese can upgrade, we can't

[kindred lantern]

too many 2gb they can't off load?

[mental haven]

They really gotta find a way to get rid of the 2GB Ram Stock because only 6% of buyers bought it

[limpid galleon]

good thing I don't need this at all between my rg476h and 477m

still not happy tho

[sweet veldt]

Just sell it , instant extra cash

[limpid galleon]

probably will, 2+32gb sucks and if it ain't black, it will be ugly anyway

[past summit]

🤡

[past fjord]

I ordered black but looks like most people ordered the Retro Power Green

[sweet veldt]

I ordered the Black too so your not alone

[sweet veldt]

I don't get why they won't let you pay the extra for the 3Gb model unless they feel they'll have a bunch of 2 Gb models that no one is ordering

[rich zinc]

Yeah I had already backed it just in case they wouldn't allow the higher end model and/or select our color. I guess I will just sell the free one to recoup some money back.

[kindred lantern]

Aw yeah, black gang rise up

[faint chasm]

Just ordered the black after finally getting the email to login!

[rich zinc]

Yeah they had to disable F2A on my account so I could access it. Kind of annoying as I wanted to order immediately after it lauched so I would be an early number but as a result I am in the 500's now...

I finally got all of the verification code emails over the course of like 5-6 hours last night. There werew a lot of them...

[faint chasm]

Well I'm like 1500 so I guess could be worse lol

Yeah I got like 10 all at once hours later.

[wintry flame]

Hmm odd I was 385 but I cancelled then decided to get it again just to test it out and still at 385

[storm prairie]

Wish they would ship now! Excited for this one...any idea of when they will get them in hands

[sweet veldt]

Last I heard they had close to 10 K orders with the domestic market and 1500+ on IGG now so might be longer than expected

[muted root]

The 2gb ram is less of an issue than 32gb storage imo either $10 is neither here nor there

[sweet veldt]

Extra $10 is a couple of cups or tea

[fast coral]

https://tenor.com/view/ted-lasso-horrible-jason-sudeikis-tedlassogifs-tea-gif-20643812

[fair sentinel]

Where can you see your number?

[wintry flame]

Hold up

Log on and it will tell you your number

[urban notch]

This is probably expected to ship in December right?

[sweet veldt]

Hopefully but there are close to 10K orders domestically and 1700 so far on IGG so might be longer than expected if you ordered later

My order number is under 100 so hopefully in the first batches

[limpid galleon]

well, apparently Aya planned with 20k units for this... soooo maybe we get stuff faster than expected

[urban notch]

My order number is 43 so by End of December?

[twin flower]

I wonder if a positive review from Russ will drive the numbers up. Will have to wait and see his first impressions.

[kindred lantern]

20k units but 1700 backers? I guess there is a lot of competition

[hexed jackal]

20k units are for both Chinese orders and international ones

and also each backer can back more than one unit

[sweet veldt]

D id Russ review it already and I missed it ?
I know sales exploded after his Konkr Fit review and amazingly almost caught up with Odin 3 pre-orders

[ivory dagger]

People have been trying to explain that to MagicX

They're not getting good sale without reviews first

[haughty acorn]

https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugkx4XP1En8S9GjEiasbHfYfCg225o3ihMvz

[sharp shell]

I really hate having to wait like this. When it comes to product releases, Anbernic is probably better. They announce a product, and then users can easily buy it on various online marketplaces, and the shipping is very fast

[sweet veldt]

Tell that to the RG DS fans that are loosing their minds for spec info

At least we know what we are getting

[sturdy zinc]

RG DS unveiling is so unusual. Anbernic knows that dripping info is driving hype. And meanwhile maybe they are producing a lot of units ready to ship

It will ship earlier than Air Mini for sure

[kindred lantern]

I mean if they already produced 20k units for these orders, I don't understand why going through the delayed process of Indiegogo unless they wish stagger having to ship them?

[sturdy zinc]

He said he prepared materials for 20k units

Just very misleading

There are a lot of angry people on Baidu forum about this

[limpid galleon]

who cares about the Air Mini, gotta pawn the damn thing away if it ain't black

[sturdy zinc]

Many people are canceling Air Mini to get 476h instead

The price of 476h dropped quite a lot, probably intentionally by Anbernic

Plus some vouchers I saw people got it for about $100-120

And other people are saying canceling air mini for RG DS

In any case, Anbernic is winning

[limpid galleon]

good, may they suffer for the whole "free Air Mini" bullshit

also IGG sucks now, please start selling via your damn store like a normal company

[inner crag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVxEkSTtJJs more sharing

[sturdy zinc]

Another live streaming to get more people to pay the full amount

[inner crag]

this is stream no 4 already on this device?

[kindred lantern]

I'll only watch it if they play with the black one more. Need to get my hype on while I wait months for this thing

[limpid galleon]

well, it's no surprise the Air Mini is tanking badly

[opaque egret]

Show the Pocket vert already

[mental haven]

I think it's more like 7

[sweet veldt]

Where because everywhere I look its at best $150+ and that’s without shipping ( shipping would make it around $180 )

[fiery meteor]

yeah

please share the vouchers

less shitting about ayaneo, more about letting us know good deal

[fiery meteor]

may i know how to pay full amount ?

igg currently only accept orders, but we cannot pay full amount unless campaign ends

[sturdy zinc]

My comments are all about China domestic orders. @sweet veldt @fiery meteor

Domestic orders only took I think 10 yuan as deposit

[fiery meteor]

i can place china domestic order

[sturdy zinc]

Oh cool

Let me check

[fiery meteor]

so do let me know where can i get such good deal

[fiery meteor]

you mean pocket air mini or 476H ?

[sturdy zinc]

That’s for air mini. 476h has stocks ready to ship

[fiery meteor]

cool

i'm interested in 476H (100~120$)

[sturdy zinc]

I can’t figure out how people got vouchers for 476h. You can check Baidu Forum.

I saw a few people got it for <¥700

[fiery meteor]

thanks, i'll go have a look

[sturdy zinc]

https://tiebac.baidu.com/p/10148245544#

Insane price

That's 95 USD

[fiery meteor]

OH

it's not really saving

i know this platform

you spend ¥88 get 88VIP

then you save 188

technically you're paying 681.50+88 =

but still its cheap

[sturdy zinc]

ok didn't know about this

Still cheap though

[fiery meteor]

i already spent that on other stuff

the discount is platform wide discount

so i can't use it on 476H

[haughty acorn]

China gets the 476h for $100 ?!

[sweet veldt]

Was asking about a $100-$120 RG 476H ?

But just seen your answer above

[sturdy zinc]

Yup, thanks to air mini lol

I think RG DS <$100 also thanks to Air Mini

Otherwise it would probably be around $130

[zenith breach]

nah, it way more weaker

[waxen quartz]

only 3 people watching?!

[lofty verge]

Me, you, and the guy she said not to worry after?

[sturdy zinc]

Basically they only made 3000 units.

It will take them another month to ship the rest

[wintry flame]

Those are insane prices for the rg 476h

Where are they even finding those coupon codes

[limpid galleon]

who gives a shit at this point

[opaque egret]

[haughty acorn]

That's just mean.

[limpid galleon]

I hope so many cancel on them

[wintry flame]

https://youtu.be/5lcpM1iXAcI?si=MWk5jP231OnGbOdg

Very favorable towards the mini

[main barn]

they are infact 2 different form factor devices.
both are mid tier device
psp/dreamcast/n64 certified
only partial
ps2/gc and 3ds.
of course ps2/gc/3ds more playable on pocket mini vs mangmi air x.

if u prefer big screen, prefer psp as air x 5.5 inches with 1080p 16:9 aspect ratio psp games will be perfect. 3ds and ds games more screen estate for 2 screens mode.

pocket mini, it will be more pocketable and 50 percent more powerful than mangmi air x definitely can push more ps2/gc.
love 4:3 aspect ratio. but psp will not be great.

my verdict both are equally great device.
followly closely by magicX zero35. much smaller form factor. cheaper abit and unique double d pad mode.

[wintry flame]

I think I'm starting to see the problem people in this hobby have. Only had my portal for a month but I bought a brick today, have a miyoo mini plus and soon the air mini.

Weird insatiable urge to collect them all

[sturdy zinc]

Welcome to the hobby

[limpid galleon]

the hobby ain't about playing games, we are adults and have no time for that

[kindred lantern]

A tale as of as time, started for me with physical games, then mechanical keyboards, then retro handhelds. Consoomerism can be an addiction for some

Games, I like having a backlog to look forward to, keyboards, I like having a project ready if I want it, same with my old GBA and FunnyPlaying parts, things to do, things to wait for in the mail. Got so bad, I've actually started to tackle my Steam backlog from shortest to longest games

[limpid galleon]

if you don't spend money on nice stuff you want, what are you even working for?

[kindred lantern]

True, but recently I started learning Python because I thought if I'll fill my time, I might as well learn something interesting from it

[limpid galleon]

physical games: probably 1500-2000
digital games: similar amount
keyboards: nope, haven't started to hoard those
but I have like 20 PCs/Notebooks and probably 50 headphones
"modding projects": still have like five GBA and a GBC to do, probably also a FPGBC, also a DS reshell
retro handhelds: towards the 3 digits we creep

[kindred lantern]

Headphones is something I'd love to get into but I'm not rich enough for that lol

Got a few old notebooks with Linux though

[limpid galleon]

oh and not to forget the controller buying spree I blame @proud merlin for, probably ended up somewhere between 150-200 of these damn things

[proud merlin]

Smh

[kindred lantern]

I think stress of thinking about the batteries going spicy pillow would kill me if I owned that many battery devices lol

[limpid galleon]

I will die in a raging fire caused by some cheap retro handheld going spicy between countless others 🔥

[woven vale]

https://tenor.com/view/house-explosion-explode-boom-kaboom-gif-19506150

In fairness i have over 100 handhelds. Only had a couple issues with a powkiddy or two. I did own an Odin lite that went bad after i sold it. Thankfully the buyer contacted Ayn and got a free upgrade to base Odin 2

[sturdy zinc]

You need to give us at least months updates for these figures

I used to collect games but had only about 200 games at peak. I had sold most of them before a move

Now I am down to probably just 30

[sturdy zinc]

I am using RetroAchievement to motivate me to play games otherwise I’ll probably just buy things and not playing games too

[limpid galleon]

I mean, I'm currently playing Pokémon Heart & Soul.. so it's not like I'm playing nothing nothing

[vestal flame]

Heart and Soul is good fun

[sturdy zinc]

I want to play pokemon but I know that it will suck at least 50 hours out of me

Now I only play games shorter than 30 hours

Often much shorter like 5-10 hours

RPGs are too long

[limpid galleon]

I'm using fast forward a lot, so I'm in 12hours and basically in front of the Indigo Plateau

[sturdy zinc]

Fast forward is a must have for RPGs

[limpid galleon]

I can live without it tbh, but it's nice to have features to make things quicker, like you can cut the whole nurse Joy stick down to "thx come again" in Heart & Soul

[lofty verge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vcd4nn5SrsM
Pocket Air mini review by Russ

Enjoy the review and be prepared to get snacks guys 🙂

[sturdy zinc]

It’s time to measure the Russ effect

1856 preorders at the moment

I bet it will rise to 2.5k tomorrow

[lofty verge]

Time to watch this almost 41 mins long review, I'm preparing for some snacks

It's gonna be excellent to compare this with Mangmi Air X.

Will binge watch both reviews from Russ 😄

[tribal tiger]

tl;dw?

[lofty verge]

lol wdym, Russ always does long reviews

[twin flower]

Russ' video makes me so glad I ordered black. That off-white nicotine-stained SD card slot cover... 😵

Dreamcast on here looks really good!

[atomic moat]

He mentioned performance issue on n64 and DC when using RetroArch?

[twin flower]

I dunno that it was performance issues, or just that harder to run games ran better in standalone emulators? I'd have to go back and listen closer.

[opaque egret]

N64 in retroarch is much more demanding than standalone mupen

[twin flower]

I hope people don't buy this expecting to play GC and PS2.

[lofty verge]

I think 2 gigs of RAM might be bottleneck, better to get 3 gigs

[lofty verge]

Yeah, he mentioned n64, DC, and Saturn. Even sega rally championship didn't had full fps with YabaSanshiro RA, and standalone

[warm orbit]

Looks like the 2gb model is only available ATM on IGG. Did they sell out of the 3gb model, or have they not opened it up for orders yet?

[sturdy zinc]

Looks like 3gb model ran out

They will probably add more later

[obsidian socket]

I sure hope they do, since I'd really like to pick one up! I'm just waiting to see what Retroid is cooking for their next handhelds when they unveil them next week before I put down the money for a Pocket Air Mini.

[sturdy zinc]

Looks like they added 3G model back already

[obsidian socket]

Huzzah! I went for the 3gb Retro Power version and added a carrying case. ^_^

[wintry flame]

Dang those numbers jumped quick

[limpid galleon]

now that we know your backer number, we gotta change the shipping location

[obsidian socket]

Eep! I did not know that was a thing that could be done >_>

Whelp, I cancelled my pledge and made a new one to be on the safe side; and will be keeping my new backer number private since I didn't realize it was a security risk to share it. >_<

[kindred lantern]

I would hope they can't do anything with just a backer number otherwise I could just pick one at random and ask them to change the shipping address

[empty minnow]

This has happened before. Not sure about changing the shipping address, but I've seen cancellations being done like this.

[kindred lantern]

Crazy, that's terrible security practices, but I guess I'm not surprised

[rigid swallow]

Yea that’s why I never understood why people would openly post their backer numbers in discord

[kindred lantern]

I mean that it's crazy that ayaneo or indiegogo might accept one verification point that is easily obtained as a means to change an order

[hexed jackal]

backer number doesn't actually do anything anymore, the Pledge ID on the other hand is a security risk

[fair sentinel]

There are PS2 and GC titles I can play easily on an RP2S and even easier on a Helio G99 (without active cooling), I assume I will be able to play them on a G90T with active cooling.

[twin flower]

For sure! I mostly meant expecting broad support and/or pretty flawless performance.

I'm hoping to get lucky with a few games, though.

[sturdy zinc]

Only 2063 preorders (increased 10%) after 24 hours.

[sweet veldt]

Only ?
Isn't that pretty decent

[rocky pilot]

Was at preorder #1500 when I ordered the retro power 3gb recently.

Sorta surprised they ran out of the 3gb variant.

[zenith breach]

2gb not popular

will down in price soon

[zenith breach]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV16isqzSE2V/

[sinful ice]

I wonder why AYANEO didn't go with 4GB RAM and stayed with 3GB which is very low especially since Google Services are included. 4GB is lower than the new standard, but still reasonable for a budget handheld.

With shipping, this device will end up matching the prices of the T618 Anbernic devices, which have 4 GB RAM and 128 GB internal storage. And with Gamma OS available for those devices, this device is already making itself a hard buy. Ayaneo should consider upgrading their RAM during the campaign at the very least.

[viral birch]

ram price is at all time high due to AI right now

[proud sierra]

Got one arriving tomorrow

[fair sentinel]

Yes, managing expectations is key!

[fair sentinel]

How so?

[proud sierra]

My wife is in China at the moment. Managed to get one.

[fair sentinel]

Nice one, let us know your thoughts once you've got it in your hands.

[zenith breach]

https://youtu.be/9wSqABRtfiA?si=OrDgYfvusX--x0JG

[lofty verge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64nXcgipK3I

This one is 3/64GB, I'm surprised most of the reviewers got 2/32 GB 🙁

[sweet veldt]

I wish people would stop embedding Nitrix videos as they don't play here anyway and direct you to YT + this dude just steals content from others and posts them for his own content

[lofty verge]

At least that guy has some English dub, better to watch than bililibili lol

[sweet veldt]

Is it though ?
I guess if your OK for others stealing your content to get their own views , I think that’s pretty scummy TBH .

There will be better video reviews and Russ and TD already have videos you can understand in English

[lofty verge]

I was more interested in seeing 3/64 GB and unfortunately this guy showed one.

Both Russ, TD and even ETA Prime had 2/32 GB variant

[zenith breach]

https://fxbilibili.seria.moe/BV1hhsfzYEy4/

one of the most skilled hardware reviewer/tester btw (wonder why she does no measure screen display this time)

[warm merlin]

I found a guy that would take some old stuff off of my hands for like $100, and im thinking about getting either this or the RG DS. Do Tarrifs apply to this or not?

[twin flower]

I don't know that anyone can say for sure. We don't even know the final shipping price yet.

From what I gather, they said they'll use 4px, which has a better track record of avoiding additional charges, but who can say for sure what you might get hit with, or what the de minimis situation looks like whenever this actually does ship.

[sweet veldt]

Well China and the US in principle reached a trade agreement of sorts so hopefully if and when they hammer out the details it won’t be that bad

🤞

[vestal flame]

Until Trump wakes up and changes his mind again

[cosmic root]

nuggest got cold, add a new tarriff

[solar widget]

Has anyone made a comparison with the RG477 on video or pictures?

[main barn]

https://youtu.be/zTECIWFPsCA?si=ijR1wamD1pNnkosc

good review

[strong marsh]

Not a huge fan of Retro Dodo

[minor musk]

don't they just skim what the product is and does and then moves on without giving it a good trial period

[solar widget]

Isn’t a just the early bird pricing?

[sweet veldt]

Yes

[cosmic root]

Cant be, he stretched gba to full screen

[minor musk]

Now do it to PSP

[umbral ruin]

Gotta have that click bait tittle

[brave hamlet]

Just had my review unit delivered, looking forward to spending some quality time with this one! Love the retro colorway on it

[warm merlin]

Did you get any tarrifs?

[brave hamlet]

No, but I'm in Australia, so its not a factor here!

Had the AYN Thor delivered some time ago for review also, and that had no extra payment required after delivery either (there's a rep for DHL doing so, in some cases)

[warm merlin]

Oh, lucky.
Sadly im in the state with the dumb-dumb stupid tarrifs :(

[brave hamlet]

I feel for all of you over there. So much!

[solar widget]

Unless Aya underreports the value like AYN hence no fees even with DHL

[delicate spear]

Is that how Ayn does it?

That's wild

Ah yes the dual OLED panel electronic with the couple year old flagship chipset costs 5 dollars 😉

[muted root]

Cancelled mine so everyone will move up one place. Just don't need it with the other devices I have.Might not even have opened it to set it up.What I would say if you have a bit more money or want ps2 /game cube properly get a retroid 6 or g2 .

[woven vale]

I cancelled both of mine today as well. 2x 3GB SEB

Moving. So need to save some cash. Will grab one on used market at a later stage

[urban notch]

Is it easy to cancel?

[woven vale]

Yeah like a few clicks 😅

[urban notch]

My Pledge number didn't move after you guys cancelled

[woven vale]

Imagine pledge number will remain same. Just we will be skipped now we cancelled. So queue just gets shorter

[urban notch]

It says upcoming payment on 11/17/25, Does this mean this will ship out then?

[umbral ruin]

Hmm I think thats when the campaign ends and they charge you money for it

Shipping is probably different

When do we know Shipping Cost? Cause if shipping is too expensive I want to cancel

[urban notch]

Same here. If this is going to be $100++ I'm thinking of getting the RG476H.

[woven vale]

You get charged at end of campaign. Shipping is still up in the air. But Aya should update when that begins. I think they were aiming for Dec. But i could be wrong

[mental haven]

They confirmed to ship out the 2+32 SKU for S2 backers iirc

Not sure about the rest

Maybe they start global after completing domestic orders

[umbral ruin]

Ayaneo has one of the worse logistics. They take so much longer than any other company

[inner crag]

go into the indiegogo page comments and CTRL+F your country name

they were manually replying for everyone that asked, what a shit show

[limpid galleon]

oh I hope their IGG campaign for the Mini fails so badly that they send us Pocket S2 backers a 3+64gb unit

[kindred lantern]

It's only allowed to fail after they send my unit to me

[umbral ruin]

Found it. They said shipping to USA is 147HKD ~19USD

[vestal flame]

Finally

[sweet veldt]

That's not bad

[sour shard]

Shipping costs to Ireland are around HK$184 🤔 approximately €20.36

[inner crag]

seems quite dumb, as the shipping costs to the UK are 72 HKD

[urban notch]

So ends up being about ~$100 to the US. Might be ok for this device.

[wintry flame]

100 bucks for some PS2 emulation with good build quality and a nice screen sign me up

Question will ultimately be what's overall a better value the rg476h or this

[zenith breach]

this ofc

[hot steeple]

If you use ali coupons then the rg476h

Actually, sales aren't that good rn, it's still around $150 after coupons

[twin flower]

Still looking forward to this one! Keeping my preorder unless the current administration makes some ridiculous trade war threats that could potentially balloon the cost.

Trying to pare my stable down to Brick > Pocket Air Mini > Switch 2 > Steam Deck for now.

[brave hamlet]

https://gardinerbryant.com/hands-on-with-the-ayaneo-pocket-air-mini-retro-4-3-gaming-done-right/

Posted my little review on it, if you'd like to see a little more on the Mini!

[sinful ice]

Shipping and other costs considered, what do you guys find to be a better purchase - this or the RG406H?

[umbral ruin]

Hard to say. With shipping Pocket Air mini cost around $100ish. But the RG406H pricing has a large variance. If you buy from Anbernic it might cost 160-180 w/shipping. However RG406H is regular discounted on Aliexpress. Lowest I've seen was $103. But averages around $130

The 406H uses a much better chip than Pocket air mini. So if both devices are similiar in price, then RG406H is better value.

Theres other things that like personal preferences. Dpad top vs stick top. Color and design options etc

[wintry flame]

i would probably assume you can get a decent deal on a 406h in the marketplace

406h looks a bit chunky though, air mini is probably way more pocketable

[devout geyser]

Whats the usual cost of ayaneo or indiegogo shipping in canada? Do they use dhl or 4px?

[kindred lantern]

Here is what Ayaneo said in the comments on Indiegogo

"The shipping cost to Canada is HKD 217. Since the 4PX used in this case is charged according to the actual weight, the shipping cost per unit is HKD 217."

[haughty acorn]

That's $28.

That's… a lot ?

[kindred lantern]

Yeah, like $40 Canadian, that is fucking crazy lol

Not worth it

It cost 118.03 Canadian (with the wrong pricing on the case and screen protector) to buy the device, and they want 30% of that for shipping lol

[limpid galleon]

I mean, $80 device + $20 shipping was expected 😅

[haughty acorn]

Mangmi Air X charged me $12 for shipping.

$28 is over twice that, and I doubt Mangmi managed to get a discounted volume rate over Ayaneo.

[charred linden]

Hmm they're saying the shipping cost to the UK is 72hkd which seems absurdly cheap. If that is the case I definitely will keep the order.

Although it was $10 with mangmi so perhaps that is correct 🤔

[inner crag]

4px should not be expensive, we're always getting over charged

retroid uk shipping 20 usd...

[devout geyser]

Does it include custom tax etc? Yea it makes the konkr fit on 400$ border and makes the pocket air mini 150$

[kindred lantern]

There is no charge yet for any shipping or tax, so I'm not sure on that

With using 4px and around $120 CAD I wouldn't expect any custom tax personally (to BC)

Oops I misunderstood what you asked

I don't think they specified that

[vestal flame]

yep 🙁

[sinful ice]

Thank you for the detailed response.

[atomic moat]

has it been confirmed how the shipping fee / payment deduction will work when campaign close? Will they send a final bill for you to click "OK/Accept" or something before the deduction go ahead?

[sinful ice]

Your card is pre-validated so they will probably charge you at the end unless you cancel.

[atomic moat]

That would be bad if they can just slap on any shipping fee and payment get through without further confirmation from buyers

[sinful ice]

Well considering the fact your card is pre-validated to get charged with a specific amount, you may have to pay extra on your own rather than getting charged that much automatically.

But then again I have no experience with the new IGG.

[kindred lantern]

Thank god, shipping to me is only gonna be like 5 or 6 dollars according to their reply

[proud sierra]

has anyone seen/found a compatability spreadsheet yet?

[sweet veldt]

T90 is a first in a handheld so not much has been tested completely
This will give you a good idea what it can do and it's a great review

https://gardinerbryant.com/hands-on-with-the-ayaneo-pocket-air-mini-retro-4-3-gaming-done-right/

[surreal ocean]

Most Tariffs don’t exist anymore. Senate voted to take the Dump’s “emergency “ powers of imposing global tariffs away

Haha, autocorrect changed trump to dump. I’m leaving it

[sweet veldt]

What kind of searches are you doing where auto correct does that ?

[umbral ruin]

It should be similar to the G99 that's in many tablets and phone. Also many reviewers have showcase capability already

[zenith breach]

not similar, gpu better

[umbral ruin]

CPU is similar. CPU is much more important than GPU for emulation.

[zenith breach]

depend which emulation 🙂

[umbral ruin]

Not Switch or PS3 emulation obviously

[zenith breach]

:/

[sweet veldt]

Your getting this for the wrong reasons expecting Switch or PS3 emulation

[twin flower]

I just want PS1/Dreamcast with a little bit of headroom for CRT shaders.

[brave hamlet]

It did all that and more in my testing. PS1 looks beautiful on the AIR Mini

[umbral ruin]

Is the screen really 4.2 inches? Or is that counting the bezels

[brave hamlet]

Honestly...interesting question. Give me a sec and I'll measure it

[brave hamlet]

Yep, the screen itself is 4.2 inches

Its just under 4.6 if you include the bezels

[umbral ruin]

Cool. Because the R46H advertise at 4.2 but that was including the bezels. It was 4inches in reality

[brave hamlet]

Just confirmed! Completely is 4.2

Want a pic? It'll be a balancing act, but one sec

Acutally very hard to photograph

[brave hamlet]

Sorry it got a little fish-eye'd. And a little not-so-straight

[sweet veldt]

What surprised you the most on the Air Mini ?

Great written review by the way

[brave hamlet]

Thanks! I appreciate that!

Its a world with so many video reviews these days, that older style of a site is just fading away. Or so it feels.

So it makes me happy seeing you enjoyed it!

[brave hamlet]

The plastic. Weird thing to be so impressed by, but they made it feel so nice in the hands.

Its kinda sliiiiightly grippy, so with the molded back it feels amazing to hold. One of the most comfortable handhelds I've used, I think. Which is a bit odd.

[sweet veldt]

That's great to hear , mine cant come soon enough

[brave hamlet]

You won't regret it! PlayStation games feel almost made for it with how nice they look, with some upscaling

[sweet veldt]

This will sound kind of dumb but I'm actually looking forward to this as much as my Elite Konkr

[brave hamlet]

Not at all! It fills a happy medium I think. If you just look at the PS2/GCN as a happy bonus that works with some games, then you'll love it! I found SNES and PlayStation are just so much fun on there.

PSP plays well too, obviously, but that screen-size of the PSP is more suited to wide-screen handhelds. I like to think of the AIR Mini as a perfecr 4:3 device.

It fits a nice space, you'll have other for more powerful games, but this kicks butt!

[umbral ruin]

What other handhelds did you have besides Air Mini? I just want a frame of reference.

[brave hamlet]

Switch, Switch V2, Switch OLED, Steam Deck, Steam Deck OLED, Retroid's Pocket (2,3,4), Miyoo Mini V2 and Plus, Anbernic RG476H, RG CUBEXX, RG35XX & SP, AYN Thor, Legion Go

...there's more, but I'm eating lunch!

[umbral ruin]

wow. so just about everything

[brave hamlet]

But am overseas now! So all I've had to play have been the RG476H, Thor and AIR Mini to review.

So its been a blessing, being able to just focus on each! With some more to come to review too

[flat robin]

which of the 2 you prefer for a pure 4:3 device, price not being a consideration: RG467H or Pocket Air Mini?

[brave hamlet]

If you've got the money, then the RG476H. It is such a beautifully made device, its more powerful than the AIR Mini (ram, chipset) but it also maxes out with only some PS2 and GCN

But...it is more expensive. So for me it comes down to cost.

If you're after a premium 4:3, then the RG476H. If you're looking to save money and focus on the same catalogue of games, then the AIR will do it too

[flat robin]

how about size, ergonomics and pocketability: Does pocket air Mini beat out RG467H by a decent margin?

[brave hamlet]

I've had a blast bringing the AIR Mini around. I go for a morning coffee at a cafe by the beach here, and bring it with me.

I've also dropped it twice now from about waist height. So it can take a little beating.

But by a wide or decent margin? Maybe not. They're quite similarly sized. I think if you're putting one in say a jacket pocket...they're both going to occupy the same space

[brave hamlet]

Sorry about the rough photos, but quickly gave them a pic

...actually funny, in my hands and in front of me they seem so similarly sized. But in these pics, they're looking so different

[flat robin]

Thank you dash. Appreciate the replies.

[brave hamlet]

You're welcome! Happy to help!

...if this is helping. A lot of handhelds comes down to personal preferences after-all

One thing to keep in mind about the RG476H. Those L1/R1 shoulder buttons are quite clicky.

The AIR Mini though has a muted sound. If gaming near anyone is a priority, that could play into it

[flat robin]

I waited for rp mini to get a proper 4:3 device with issues like clicky buttons resolved in the next release. But retroid seems to push that device, if it exists at all, to next year maybe. The end game 4:3 console for me. So, it came down to these 2 for me. Pocket air mini looks a lot like rp mini v2

looks like pocket air mini for me....ships in next 3 weeks too...looks like a keeper for a year or two

[brave hamlet]

Looking forward to what you think of it when it arrives!

[umbral ruin]

What about ergonomics? RG476H is flat while the air mini has bumps. Is there a big difference in feeling

The performance doesn't bother me as I won't be playing GC/PS2 on this. My main concerns are feel. How does the buttons/body/Dpad/stick feel in hands?

[brave hamlet]

That's going to be personal preference. I have smaller hands, but both felt comfortable to me.

The AIR Mini is really comfortable. I swear 99% of that is the material they used for it. I'm obsessed with it. The gentle curves on the back are super comfortable. If long-term comfort is key. Then maybe that's your deciding factor?

But, that said, the RG476H is comfortable to me. The triggers buttons etc feel more premium on it too.

I'm so sorry I can't give you a super definitive one above all answer here, but by its nature this kinda thing is very subjective!

I'll share a pic of the backs in a sec though, if that'd help?

[umbral ruin]

Sometimes looks can be deceiving. For example, even though the RP5 had ergo bumps, it never really felt comfortable. On the other hand my trimui Smart Pro which is flat felt great

I guess it depends on hand shape. I have big palms but short fingers

Maybe I buy both and sell one of them

[brave hamlet]

Between the two in my hands now:

AYANEO's shoulder buttons are not obnoxiously clicky. But the Anbernic's are quite loud.

The thumbsticks have a nicer tension in the Anbernic.

Face buttons also feel nicer on the Anbernic. They have a satisfying feeling to push in.

The d-pad will be up to taste, for me both feel great. Triggers are much nicer on the Anbernic.

I guess that's the value of a higher price, you're getting some more premium feeling components

[brave hamlet]

Yep, its going to vary so much person-to-person. Hand shape and what you appreciate are big factors.

I love how the AIR Mini feels in my hands, but by the same token the RG476H (which is like a smooshed-up Switch Lite) feels nice to hold too

I feel like I should be giving some definitive one above the other advice here, and I'm failing miserably!

If money's no object, and you want 4:3, go for the RG476H. If it is, then the AIR Mini does the same things, with less 'under the hood'

[wintry flame]

just canceled my pledge. With the shipping from Indie Gogo I cant justify not paying 20 bucks more on Aliexpress and getting a 476h

[wintry flame]

I honestly might just hold on the 476h. I have a portal already and ideally want a 4:3 that can run every PS2 games. 476h won't be it. 477m fan noise scares me. Eventually someone will make a device that does all that and is super pocketable. Until then my pocket device will be the brick.

[surreal ocean]

I didn’t care for the very clicky r1,l1 on the 476h. The screen is nice but the t820 just seemed like an odd pairing for it. For me, the value wasn’t there at the $130-$150 price point

[wintry flame]

The form factor is perfect on the mini. It's sadly not strong enough for me.

[sinful ice]

I am consistently on the fence too, only thing that is holding me is the build quality and software. I guess Aya Neo is much better in that regard. Also this has 18W fast charging.

[umbral ruin]

I think 16:9 is great for PS2 due to widescreen hacks.

[wintry flame]

I love the size of the mini. Honestly for PS2 and lower I want something that can easily fit in my Pocket. Even the 476h is kinda pushing it

I'm so untechsavvy I won't even know how to use the hacks

[sinful ice]

It's self explanatory, as easy as a toggle switch on Aether SX2

But for that I recommend SD865 at the minimum.

[umbral ruin]

I think both 476h and pocket air mini aren't ps2 devices. Yes the T820 can run like 75% of ps2 games. But I don't like putting a bunch of games to only find out a bunch of them dont run well

[wintry flame]

Yeah I'm just gonna wait then hopefully in a year or so there is a device that fills all my needs.

[sinful ice]

The only other handheld I am considering this against is the RP Classic.

[umbral ruin]

the 476M with 8300 will run PS2 but thats another class

[sinful ice]

Joysticks v. OLED Screen and amazing battery.

[umbral ruin]

RP classic isn't a PS2 "fully capable device" imo

[sinful ice]

Better get the RP Mini V2 instead of the 477M. Any 8 Gen 2 device would be amazing too.

[umbral ruin]

Problem with RP mini is screen isn't even 4:3 or 16:9 lol

[sinful ice]

It isn't and PS2 is not the reason for buying the device in the first place. Just expect upscaled Dreamcast and N64.

[umbral ruin]

I rather buy G2 or RP6 lol

[sinful ice]

True, triggers my OCD.

[umbral ruin]

Maybe I misunderstood. I was talking about PS2 capable devices and you responded with RP classic?

[sinful ice]

@umbral ruin don't get the G2. RP6 is worth the extra.

[umbral ruin]

I'm not going to buy any lol. I already have Odin 2 and Odin 3 pre-ordered

[sinful ice]

Apologies for the misunderstanding. I was comparing device to device, not the platform it can emulate.

[umbral ruin]

I was just responding to the other guy who wanted PS2 capable devices

[wintry flame]

Yeah I'm holding out for a 8 gen 2 chipset in a pocket air mini form factor and build quality

I wouldn't even know what that would cost

[sweet veldt]

RP6 is most likely a 2026 delivery while the G2 RP5 is ready to go , so that could be a factor

[zenith breach]

bet 2 monthes

[brave hamlet]

They're definitely not. Even some relatively easy games I expected to play well on both would struggle. Some though played beautifully. It's not a device you can count on for those two systems.

That said though, I really was surprised at how well Gran Turismo 4 Spec II played on the AIR Mini. Took me aback! Just count every PS2/GCN game the AIR Mini plays as a bonus.

[brave hamlet]

Annnnd up to date again!

[zenith breach]

https://upos-sz-estgcos.bilivideo.com/upgcxcode/04/19/32665831904/32665831904-1-192.mp4?e=ig8euxZM2rNcNbRVhwdVhwdlhWdVhwdVhoNvNC8BqJIzNbfq9rVEuxTEnE8L5F6VnEsSTx0vkX8fqJeYTj_lta53NCM=&mid=0&og=hw&nbs=1&platform=html5&deadline=1762186414&uipk=5&gen=playurlv3&os=estgcos&oi=1782024106&trid=a21b0880301d48cfb0b881d4c315386h&upsig=64cd5eb4d5f6a5a1f2867766ce3aba11&uparams=e,mid,og,nbs,platform,deadline,uipk,gen,os,oi,trid&bvc=vod&nettype=0&bw=785619&build=0&dl=0&f=h_0_0&agrr=0&buvid=&orderid=0,1

uh doesnt work ...

or

yeay it works

[sweet veldt]

I had to watch with the sound off

I don't know why people have to dub shitty music over something

[zenith breach]

um that was normal 15 years ago

[sweet veldt]

Did we travel 15 years into the past and I missed it ?
Daylight savings time is only 1 hour rollback not 15 years