AyaNeo Pocket Air Mini

[zenith breach]

alr, ill do sheet with soc's performance ...

[faint chasm]

@zenith breach you need to change your name to Benchmark

Maybe you should consolidate all the testing links into a database? You seem to spend a lot of time looking for them, so might as well keep a spreadsheet or something with all of it.

I'm sure the community would love it.

[zenith breach]

working atm

[zenith breach]

@faint chasm later will add known gpu score (G3x Gen1 with 8300 swaped already)

[thorny rain]

i have a g510 handheld, didnt realize it was higher than the T820

[zenith breach]

Yeah it is, perfect gc emulation

strong gpu MC2

if have time, will be great if u run G6, bc info super outdate on that chipset

and model-name on that device unknown (Abxylute One Pro)

green too bright bruh

[upper coyote]

There’s such a huge jump from gen 3 to Elite but I wonder if that has anything to do with Elite using more power

[zenith breach]

um not realy, 5% boost cpu get only, and 8% on gpu

on full unlocked tdp device

45W

[upper coyote]

That’s a lot higher than what anyone would use lol

[zenith breach]

yup

Rev 2.0 😄 (fixed G3x) did i miss something worth?

@thorny rain if u have free time, i need link to G6 test ur G510 🙂 (bc info super outdate, and device tree unknown)

[faint chasm]

Oh snap

[vestal flame]

that's a good setup @zenith breach, more of this please not just endless benchmarks 😄 its a good resource to have

[faint chasm]

I channeled his power for good!

[zenith breach]

🥂 Iqoo 15 next year this power come to handhelds ... (btw it will be more) also tablet on that soc should reach 4000

VS now (best tablet) - yes, astra is not better, y700 gen4 too ...

Single 18% / Multi 22% Vulcan 9% / OpenGL 20% (if compare not OnePlus pad 3, % will be noticeably higher)

[zenith breach]

https://youtu.be/F2TuLa2yRx8 and old aaa games demanding like this one allot

[muted marsh]

There are fixed costs and variable costs.

[cloud falcon]

Especially for magicx. I'm like... Ehhhhh

[sturdy zinc]

I know. My point is not so much about the exact math and economics but about his way of talking.

[tawdry badge]

Has anyone a guess, which SD-card type is good? I heard somewhere, that 512gb would be max but should I get a U2 or is is a U3 also possible? It's gonna be my first device, so I'm not experienced with that stuff.

[rigid swallow]

These devices typically only have 100 MB/s read speeds, so you don’t benefit by getting the absolute fastest card

[tawdry badge]

Okay thanks

[urban notch]

What about A2 Random Read & Write speed doesn’t that make some difference?

[mental haven]

Not on the handheld itself but you can transfer files faster on your pc

I believe Keiretrogaming couldn’t get more than 70mb/s write speeds on the Odin 2, despite the sd card being able to to more than double that

[jaunty storm]

A2 cards
for android apps yes
for emulation yet to see any proof theres a benefit

[limpid galleon]

I still want to see MicroSD Express in high end handhelds, it's a shame the Odin 3 is only normal Micro SD

[jaunty storm]

for the low low price of $2000 you can skip straight past SD Express to miniSSD

with the GPD win 5

if they dont cook themselves to death they're cool as fuck
2x pcie gen4 nvme speeds

~3.7GB a second read

[limpid galleon]

A lil slow ain't it

[urban hull]

The sharks help the Data swim faster from Card to Device. Go shark go

[jaunty storm]

how much asking for someone with no sense

gta6 micro shark cards

[urban hull]

https://tenor.com/view/tree-fiddy-lockness-monsta-gif-14302477

[jaunty storm]

treefiddy MB more like

[zenith breach]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1FWJXzjEYJ/

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ErJSzTE1k/

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1NTJDzJEU1/

[tawdry badge]

I… don’t understand jack shit tbh but looks good I guess? Website is so bad, Safari won’t even let me watch in full screen.

[zenith breach]

use normal browser

[zenith breach]

https://youtu.be/C5xYCBZBaTc?si=eFjr_d91rO9RXvo2 if somone miss GOW

[stiff hatch]

I'm starting to like this thing, but I wish the screen would allow BFI and the CRT effect...

[tawdry badge]

I feel like that’s a solid performance on ps2 for like 70-80 bucks, but.. again I’m new to it, I think I like it.

[opaque egret]

Needs the rg476h in the left corner

[modern dew]

Yes, that is what people want. Buy a $70 handheld for $200

Nice , but I think I’ll wait for the MagicThree49

[fervent mica]

7500 units sold

[mental haven]

Oopsie

[fervent mica]

There’s a new livestream today, likely from Tokyo Game Show

[mental haven]

Will Uncle Tail be there

[fervent mica]

Should be

[mental haven]

That’s cool, I bet the pocket ds is gonna turn some heads

[fervent mica]

Or it might catch Nintendo’s attention and end up getting sued

[mental haven]

Imagine they ask for receipts on where they got their ROMs from

[tawdry badge]

Damn, hopefully there are enough for the rest of us (jk)

[mental haven]

showing of emulation handhelds in the heart of Japan is brave

[mental haven]

There’ll definitely be enough 476H

[atomic moat]

Do they load emulators/roms on the devices at the show?
👀

[fervent mica]

I think only Android games like Genshin Impact

[mental haven]

Smart Smart

[jaunty storm]

they've been really careful last few years
all their promo material show only android stuff
the only retro game they've showed in promotional pics etc has been physical game boxes

Like they'll have some android game on screen with wii game boxes in the shot

and it looks like they've stopped even doing that on their recent one

[long mesa]

Just like the old GP32 days.

Sir, this device has official games on it, I am sure people buying it to play emulated games are in the minority

It's just a coincidence that this device has just the right amount of power to play NES/GB/MS, and also has a d-pad and two buttons like the NES/GB/MS.

I'm sure really everyone is buy it for blue Angelo

[woven vale]

Ahhh evo is still getting some love at least

[past summit]

I still don't get the hype over this handheld? 🤔

[still nacelle]

Hi-res big 4:3 screen and allegedly great performance at a really good price

[zenith breach]

hype can lower only when dream 50 out (many waiting 16x9 device, more powerful than Mangmi)

G85 16x9

and dream ''2'' can finish Air Mini at all <100$ D7300

[elder tapir]

lol. lmao, even

[steep jolt]

Nah. There's way too many larger screen 16:9 devices out there already. Barely any larger screen 4:3 devices, especially for Android.

[zenith breach]

just 2 normal

other out of price range

Odroid go Ultra
rgb10max3pro

[steep jolt]

I personally don't care for 16:9 devices anymore. I want more 4:3 options. Even better if OLED.

[steep jolt]

A larger screen 4:3 Android device with a great resolution for a budget price. What's not to love

[waxen quartz]

basically its just the RPC, RPmini, and dmg?

[twilit fog]

None of those are 4:3

[waxen quartz]

closest thing for oled based

[left grove]

Any other aspect ratio that isn 16:9 is good for me. 3:2, 1:1, 4:3, all of it's good imho

[upper coyote]

Are US preorders up yet?

[elder tapir]

I would also like to know this

[left grove]

Not yet, they're coming October

[elder tapir]

Noted

[steep jolt]

Only the RP Mini at this point. RPC and DMG aren't 4:3

[waxen quartz]

umm...

[steep jolt]

V1 is Pseudo-4:3

[twilit fog]

31:27 just really isn't comparable to 4:3 IMO, it is its own thing

[steep jolt]

First company to make a budget 4:3 4-4.5" OLED device that is 960x720 or 1280x960 will make bank.

[twilit fog]

960 please

for psx

[mental haven]

Retroid Pocket Mortgage

[left grove]

Better idea: 1920x1440 or 1440x1080

[steep jolt]

Whoa buddy. One step at a time. Give it a few years. This industry moves slowly when it comes to screens

Start off with lower resolutions first so all these budget chips can power them without a hitch.

[warm yarrow]

no such thing so you arent getting any of those anytime soon.

[rigid swallow]

It’s the first AYANEO handheld under 100, and also cheaper than their power bank lol

[steep jolt]

I know. My wallet thanks me dearly

[empty sentinel]

Jokes on you, im waiting for the MagicX Four50

[empty sentinel]

Personally I like 16:9 for like more modern games, Id prefer 4:3 if I play more retro games, I think id appreciate a 4-4.5” screen for it

Im getting that Retro White

[vestal flame]

comeon ayaneo, let us international plebs order this

[empty sentinel]

I wonder if it has video out support lol

And I wonder if the Retroid Pocket Dual Screen add on would work for this

because its pretty similar to a retroid pocket mini

[turbid quarry]

So random question

I know Ayaneo uses unique stick caps on their handhelds.

Is there anything particularly notable about those caps or are they just superficially different from the ones used by Retroid and AYN?

[tawdry badge]

If this thing can play GT4 on the PS2 we’re fucking golden.

[tribal tiger]

we may get it from Retroid eventually

that's the hope anyway

[sturdy zinc]

Surface Duo if you count that

One and only true 4:3 OLED device

Well two, Duo 1 and Duo 2

[woeful acorn]

Isn't the iPad pro 13 inch 4:3 as well?

[limpid galleon]

you could literally just slap Retroid, Ayn or even Anbernic stuff on the sticks if you prefer those... Ayn just makes especially small ones

[turbid quarry]

I'm actually asking about how they'd work on MagicX lol

[limpid galleon]

you could just put them on, at least I don't think the Zero28 or Zero40 sticks are any incompatible 🤔

[shadow swan]

there are too many as-is and only a finite number of 4:3 games to play.

at this point, people are either:
(a) whittling down their to-play lists or
(b) complaining that there aren't enough handhelds to doomscroll through

[steep jolt]

There are barely any 4:3 handhelds that are 4” and above. And virtually zero with OLED. 4:3 is great for 3:2 as well providing the resolution is optimal.

You might be lucky but as I get older, my eyesight gets worse. I’d like to play (and replay) my 4:3 and 3:2 games without needing to deal with extra width for portability’s sake.

[twin flower]

For under $100, for the longest time all we had was the anbernic 40xx v and h, and I guess the ARC.

And I have no interest in buying another anbernic device.

[urban notch]

Yeah Right now under $100 Anbernic isn't competitive

[twin flower]

I want the perfect "PS1 JRPG" device to sit on my nightstand. Retroid Pocket Classic is close. Ergo/comfort is just slightly off. I should've immediately sold it and bought the mini v2.

[shadow swan]

so what you're saying is the screens need to keep getting bigger because the core demographic is getting older and blinder

at some point, we're going to come full circle to laptop+controller like before any of these handhelds showed up.

[steep jolt]

That's already an option for everyone. Larger, portable 4:3 devices, not so much.

[steep jolt]

Unless there's easily accessible ways to reverse aging eyesight, sounds like the right path to me

[main barn]

if u bigger screen 5.5 inches, u choose mangmi air x over pocket air mini.

but is 5.5 inches 1080p and 16:9 aspect ratio.

[steep jolt]

16:9 already makes it not an option

And besides, 4:3 on a 16:9 5.5" is 4.5". Might as well get the RG476H.

[turbid quarry]

Odin 2 Portal caps are too wide to function

[main barn]

for certain games like psp it is 16:9 and for 3ds and ds u have bigger screen estate to put 2 screen to play.

and GBA advantage as it is 3:2 aspect ratio so it will have bigger display screen

[shadow swan]

i have a 6-inch and 7-inch handheld so i'm safe

Retro tech dad has that 10" n100 handheld lol

[maiden ice]

Except you can do the same with MelonDS by overlaying the bottom screen over the top and making it more transparent, aka how OnionOS does it for that one setting on 4:3 screens.

[maiden ice]

This isn’t the best example and doesn’t help with games that need both screens to work best like Sonic Rush, but aligning them horizontally would unironically be way worse for those games anyways.

[main barn]

overlay 3ds or ds is not really enjoyable. u destroy the appearance of the display screen.

[main barn]

sonic rush need ayn thor or arrange in tate mode if using 16:9 screen

[maiden ice]

You destroy the appearance by putting them side by side, this at least lets you full screen one of the screens for games that mostly only need that 1 screen.

[main barn]

i prefer the big screen display and small touch screen setup. i find that it is enjoyable. 16:9 give bigger screen estate for this setup.

[maiden ice]

You’d need the Thor for all DS games if you really want them to look good, the MelonDS option is at least the second best option versus putting screens that were always meant to be vertically aligned horizontal instead.

[main barn]

overlap no to me i dont like. this is my opinion.
but for people with small 4.2 inches screen.
toggle mode,
tate mode
or maybe overlay mode.
no choice as little screen estate.

[maiden ice]

It’s also the best option for 4:3 devices.

[maiden ice]

If this is your opinion, then you realize that is also the similar reason why I dislike using DS on 16:9 devices right (the screens being horizontally arranged looks wrong to me and I don’t like it)?

Like, my whole argument was against the fact that “16:9 is just better than 4:3 for DS” directly because there are people like me who do not like that for DS.

[main barn]

I normally use big screen small screen same as joey, russ youtuber reviewer. i personally enjoy this setup and its okay for me. ayn thor will solve all this dual screen issue.
my point is 16:9 5.5 inches give u more option than 4:3 4 inches screen.

take it easy, unless u have ayn thor, people will different setup to put 2 screens on 1 screen.
my opinion is that having a bigger screen estate helps.

[empty sentinel]

YO WHAT

YOU CAN DO THAT NOW?!

[maiden ice]

Yes, I actually made multiple comments about it, including in the RGC and RH channels, only for the mods to say it wasn’t really relevant and that it would be better in the DS channel.

[empty sentinel]

thats actually really good wtf

[small estuary]

How? Is it on android, that's amazing

[maiden ice]

I know it’s weird. We posted about emulator updates all the time, but for some reason with my comment it was decided on not being ok.

[empty sentinel]

thats so cool

this will be an upgrade from my rg35xxh lol

I can actually play dreamcast and n64

maybe psp? but idk about it yet

[maiden ice]

Like, I was fine with it at the time since I couldn’t really disagree that it wasn’t specifically about the channel, but it still felt weird since we’ve shared info like this often on that channel.
#🐓│rh-media-chat message

But oh well, at long as people know it’s an option I’m happy.

[empty sentinel]

im invested

dreamcast n64 and psp for like 100$? yes

4:3 aspect ratio? yes

above 4''? yes

can play ds games? yes

will i buy? yes

[warm yarrow]

psp? go mangmi.

[empty sentinel]

nah i need portability

and i actually like 4:3 more for like nds

also I have an rp5 for 16:9 I just need a 4:3 device

[warm yarrow]

fair enough, just playing 16:9 on 4:3 is worse than the other way around imho.

[empty sentinel]

yeah

[warm yarrow]

also main reason I want one of these too. get that sub 100 n64 device

[empty sentinel]

I forgot to include, psp as bonus, im gonna use this for like dreamcast, n64 and ds (ds for pokemon )

since you can make the bottom screen more transparent now

[warm yarrow]

just gonna use the thor for those ds games lol

not a huge fan of playing DS on other devices, Ive messed with it b4. even tho pokemon is like the one series thats very much playable easily

[empty sentinel]

I dont think ill buy the thor since I want to get a new tablet lol

Been like 5 years since ive gotten a tablet

[warm yarrow]

I had the spare money and I wanna play DS/3DS specifically. and dont currently have an 8g2. and wanna try to mess with all its feautres.

dockable console experience.
mini portable media player. bcz its a self standing clamshell.

[main barn]

u already have rp5, then u should get ayn thor as upgrade or wait for 4:3 inches dual screen.

[empty sentinel]

gonna get a tablet lool

for like school and overall use

[empty sentinel]

8gen 2 is great tbh

either gonna get a tablet or the thor

[warm yarrow]

so. the rumored Anbernic DS? lol

[empty sentinel]

i dont fw anbernic

i can just get a t820 phone for like 75 bucks

[warm yarrow]

iirc, the DS isnt gonna be a t820.

[empty sentinel]

yeah its gonna be like

a t620

[warm yarrow]

which imho is one of their worst device options.

[empty sentinel]

just make the chips stronger

Like d8300 is overkill for gamecube/ps2

[warm yarrow]

like at least their h700 devices do exactly what you think and have fun formfactors.

[empty sentinel]

then t820 cant even handle gow 2

[empty sentinel]

yup yup

[warm yarrow]

but also has no compatibility lol

[empty sentinel]

yep!

[warm yarrow]

their android lineup is all overpriced for what you are getting vs other devices lol

[empty sentinel]

yeah man

[warm yarrow]

I will give them a bit of credit for the 556 when it was like, t820 with oled for cheap when on sales.

[empty sentinel]

for like a 557 for 17k php (290 usd) I can already get a base model odin 2 for like 18k php

[warm yarrow]

but the sticks....so...

[warm yarrow]

you can actually get an odin 2 max for that price right now (refurbished :P)

[empty sentinel]

or a y700 2025 with 256gb internal storage for 18k

[empty sentinel]

also d8300 is soo overpriced

for them

[warm yarrow]

it really is.

[empty sentinel]

Xiaoxin Pad 12.7 2025 has d8300 and its like only 11k php thats like 200 dollars

[warm yarrow]

Id rather get any 865 device for less.

[empty sentinel]

my bad 190 dollars

[warm yarrow]

if they can get their DS to like 70-85 maybe it could be tempting.

but like.....also the thor lite for 250 is a steal for how much that can do.

[empty sentinel]

yeah

its literally a BETTER flip 2

[warm yarrow]

yeah.

I really hope the mini ends up being a good RP2S successor

[empty sentinel]

yeah

larger screen stronger power/same

under 100$

[warm yarrow]

that 100 ish price range and power range was really left with nothing after the 2s got discontinued.

you go lower price, you get h700 or rockchip that struggles with n64 and dreamcast.

[empty sentinel]

yeah literally nothing

[warm yarrow]

you go higher, and you are in ps2 gamecube devices over 150.

[empty sentinel]

no middle ground

[warm yarrow]

mangmi also I give props to specifically for psp reasons since psp runs on a potato device lol

[empty sentinel]

but now you have the mangmi air x for 16:9 and the pocket air mini for 4:3

[warm yarrow]

was a bit disappointed when I saw the mangmi bcz I dont like playing 4:3 on horizontal 4:3 devices. lol

[limpid galleon]

fair enough

[turbid quarry]

Also RP Flip 2 caps seem to work fine, but they also rub against the walls slightly, which has me worried about dust getting into the mechanism

[limpid galleon]

yeah, with the smaller more constricted caps getting replacements is a lil hit and miss unfortunately, handheld manufacturers need to standardize their stick sizes for fucks sake

or at least sell replacement caps

[turbid quarry]

I actually still have my original caps

I just like customizing them

I also just think the caps MagicX uses aren't exactly ideal for their handheld designs

[elder tapir]

I actually prefer DS Pokemon on my phone because the vertical aspect ratio makes for two 4:3ish screens of equal size

[zenith breach]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1vdnjzrEeq/ crazy ...

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1trn3z2EKo/

[dusky tulip]

Guys, is there any information regarding the release date?

[urban notch]

They say Mid-October.

[wanton egret]

Hello , can't watch this , how to watch

[twin flower]

In case y'all don't follow #🔥│upcoming-chat ...

#🔥│upcoming-chat message

[atomic moat]

They can always send each buyer a thermal/heatsink "upgrade" kit like their previous products if they don't fix it in time for release

[opaque egret]

From the pictures he showed its always on the power cable the whole day so cant really say how the heat will be

[tawdry badge]

Would be a good thing if he’d do some testing without having it the whole day on a charging cable.
Really hope it’s not too bad.

So called hopium

[elder tapir]

Same

[atomic moat]

Having it connected to power permanently should not really add much (if any) heat if battery already top out at 100%?

[opaque egret]

Here is a little more from some other user and some pics

https://www.reddit.com/r/SBCGaming/comments/1nsntqp/these_are_the_gaming_handhelds_i_got_to_play_with/

"I also got to see the Pocket Air Mini. Again, the device felt absolutely premium, even though it’s meant to be a budget product. I actually really liked the version with green buttons. The thing that really let me down was the software, and I didn’t manage to play any games on it because the Android version running on the two demo units was completely janky. It’s very possible someone had messed with it and the staff didn’t know how to fix it, but yeah, I was really disappointed. I wasn’t able to launch any games and could barely navigate it."

[tawdry badge]

Surely they’ll fix it …

[still nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/picklejuicelover69-gif-1483426411005875907

Save us Gamma, deliver us from shoddy software Gamma

[vestal flame]

prob too soon to be too concerned about it yet

[sweet veldt]

From my experience AyaNeo software is top notch so , I wouldn't put it past someone screwing it up on purpose .
If people are worried just wait for reviews, it's not like it's going to be that much more expensive after EB prices

[twin flower]

Also, curious what games were running all day. I know being connected to the power outlet all day probably wouldn't add to the heat, but if they were trying to showcase something like ps2 or Gamecube on a continuous loop, I'd expect heat.

[versed shore]

they weren't showcasing any emulation on the tokyo trade show afaik, just android games

too close to nintendo 😆

[zenith breach]

vpn probably

[twin flower]

True, true. Good call.

[zenith breach]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1gXn9zuEvR/

powerful gpu save this thing so hard

[steep jolt]

So many excited to play PS2 on this. I'm just keen on playing GBA on the Mini

[sweet veldt]

How many FPS was it getting?
For whatever reason the quality was so bad on my end I couldn’t even make out performance numbers ?
I have a few younger relatives theta play GI a lot and this seems like it would be a nice present for them for the holidays

It looked pretty smooth but could not see actual metrics

[zenith breach]

for good quality, u need login to ur account (first create) with number

[zenith breach]

60

[twin flower]

I wonder how fast ayaneo will start producing more competitive budget devices if this greatly outpaces their expectations.

So good to see competition in the sub-$100 space.

[zenith breach]

10k sales

already i think it does

[sweet veldt]

I figured as much as it looked pretty bad , but 60 FPS with high settings is pretty impressive TBH , pretty sure the G99 can’t hit those numbers ….oh and thanks for the quick reply

[zenith breach]

like i sayed u before, and u wont believe -_- G90T much better than G99

[sweet veldt]

Not that I didn’t believe but it’s rare something from that came out 2-3 years before the G99 that has much better GPU . I just had to see it with my own eyes

[zenith breach]

🙂

[sweet veldt]

Maybe it’s just the naming scheme but you would think something newer and with a bigger higher number G99 would be better than the G90T

I guess at the time the G90T was more gaming focused

[zenith breach]

i would not, T mean Turbo

first mtk series for gaming

i remember time when it out and first tests

[sweet veldt]

I did not now that and TBH I really never heard of the G90T before this was announced

[zenith breach]

many peoples chose it instead of qualcomm

[zenith breach]

lame

[sweet veldt]

Yes I am pretty lame

[zenith breach]

G90T compete with 730G (raw cpu weaker, but it not asked in AAA games before)

T turbo, G gaming

it was way way cheaper

for example Redmi 8 Pro (Legend) vs Mi 9T (legend 2)

they are from different worlds in price and status, but perfomance similar

[sweet veldt]

It’s strange but a budget handheld like the Air has me just as excited as something like the Konkr

AyeNeo is really killing it lately and Konkr sales have exploded with the good reviews

[zenith breach]

yup

wonder why they push it like ayaneo instead of konkr

to separate markets

[sweet veldt]

Either way we all win , we get good budget hardware and good high end that doesn’t make you go broke

[rain pendant]

Find that a bit interesting given the Air Mini is still under the Ayaneo branding

[sweet veldt]

If this continues Anbernic should be worried , if the first budget handheld we get from AyaNeo is the Air Mini I can’t wait to see what else they have cooking , really not impressed by the RG476H besides the screen

[zenith breach]

they are dead

just niche devices like RG DS will sell well

after market rebuilds

[still nacelle]

drop the 28xxV anbernic you know you want to

[steep jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/community-ken-jeong-ben-chang-cant-see-small-gif-5154350

[elder tapir]

What’s the highest microSD storage that this sort of device can handle?

[jaunty storm]

generally speaking 2TB is the limit unless its supports the newer card standard (unlikely)

not that there are any commercial cards bigger than that atm anyway

[elder tapir]

Nice. I probably wouldn't put nearly that much on this, so I'm thinking a 128gb, maybe even a 64, will suffice

[twin flower]

As silly as it sounds, if this lacked a headphone jack, I probably would have lost interest already.

[sweet veldt]

Not silly at all , manufactures refusing to add one that probably costs pennies to implement is dumb , yes we have BT headphones but that's besides the point when you have a nice pair of wired ones already

[left grove]

Oh, if this didn't have a headphone jack, I wouldn't get this

[zenith breach]

TWS

vivo 4/5 and ur good

[still nacelle]

One day Apple will face judgement for normalizing no headphone jack, got people blasting videos at full volume in public spaces

[waxen quartz]

nah thats just dumb people

wouldve happened regardless

[steep jolt]

TBH I'm fine with it for phones. Forced the whole industry to make great TWS devices. Before they killed the headphone jack, it was kinda stagnant. On a handheld however...

[limpid galleon]

so 99% of all Apple users, exactly

[upper coyote]

It was already naturally happening. I don’t think we needed apple to remove 3.5mm for it happen as it did.

[steep jolt]

TBH I think we did. I don't know if any of the other tech companies that has had the "bravery" do something like that. It's usually been Apple; removing the floppy disk, removing the disc drive, getting rid of USB-A ports. And now, no e-sims on the Air.

[limpid galleon]

bring back floppy disk, disc drives and USB-A lol

[still nacelle]

I unironically miss laptops that were bulky because they had a disk drive (tray and all) and a ton of ports

[rain pendant]

USB-C headphones are a thing, but we're still not at the point where those are anywhere near as common as 3.5mm headphones, nor superior

Headphone Jacks don't cost these companies much to implement.
Very silly not to have it

[still nacelle]

The future is now ig

[limpid galleon]

I mean, manufacturers even cut SD card readers in notebooks these days

[limpid galleon]

yeah give me back the damn TV card

[upper coyote]

I migrated to Bluetooth while my phones still had 3.5mm ports and apple had already removed them. I just meant that people were already migrating to the technology and it isn’t a requirement for your phone to be missing a headphone jack to try bluetooth out.

[faint chasm]

Not the same but framework has whatever they call their attachments that can be USB ports and other connections.

[sturdy zinc]

APAM has almost 8400 preorders in China. Mind blowing. Possibly get to 10k.

[zenith breach]

not surprised, best device for <120$

[sturdy zinc]

Yeah it has great value

[atomic moat]

So another video stream for exceeding 8k orders? 🤣

[vestal flame]

all they have to do is let us fucking buy it 😄

[fervent mica]

They only promised to ship the first 3,000 units before the end of October...the rest will likely come in November and December

So if they don't reserve some units for us, the shipping date might be pretty far off

[turbid quarry]

Kitsune unblocked me??????

Oh thank god

That was eating me up because I had no idea what I did

[sweet veldt]

That wouldn't be so bad for those that also ordered a Konkr Fit , I ordered a Elite that ships after the G3 so maybe they could possibly ship them together in one bundle and save some shipping costs

[sturdy zinc]

Konkr Pocket Fit. Konkr Fit is yet another Ayaneo device

[sweet veldt]

You know what I meant

[turbid quarry]

Nuh uh

[left grove]

BRUH

Man waiting for this device is gonna be crazy

[burnt crown]

How do I setup such screen layout in MelonDS? Ty

[empty sentinel]

Insane value man

Im looking to get one myself if its available in the Philippines through like online stores lol

[elder tapir]

I’m still half-expecting the reviews to reveal some fatal flaw, because that price-to-power ratio without major compromises just seems too good to be true

[atomic pumice]

Idk I like how it looks

[zenith breach]

it is how it look

many chinese reviews out

[umbral ruin]

I think the major selling point is Ayaneo branding , 4:3 screen, low cost, looks of the device. Not as much price to performance.

The Konkr fit is a has better price to performance.

[empty sentinel]

I like the model with the red face buttons and the red dpad it looks likes a fun toy

white looking pretty sleek

[elder tapir]

Yes, I like that the white model still has colored face buttons.

This may be a hot take, but I enjoy when handhelds, especially low-to-medium-power ones like this, embrace the toy look, since that’s ultimately what they are. Fancy toys for nostalgic adult gamers.

[tawdry badge]

That device is absolutely a different price range, that’s not comparable

[left grove]

My dude, you're comparing two devices in completely different price brackets and niches.

[zealous mauve]

its funny though bc i am genuinely the one person in the market who is debating between those two devices, coincidentally joining the conversation at this exact moment

but yeah no thats a dumb comparison

both are the value champs in their respective segments

crazy that both are ayaneo and i'm saying that

[vestal flame]

it's weird to see huh 😄

[left grove]

Im hyped for this cause this could easily be my EDC and fits alot of systems that doesn't need the overkill power of the chipset like the 8g2 or the G3g3

[limpid galleon]

I think this will be too bulky for an EDC tho

like it already got compared to the CUBE ergo-wise

gotta need something flat and small instead

[main barn]

pocket mini for people who want ps2 and gamecube emulation but cannot afford rp5 or konkr fit.
by adjust some setting put some hack, maybe can get 80 percent ps2, gc and 3ds.
it really worth it.
good value buy 🙂

[vestal flame]

still no word on when us outside china can order? 😄

[left grove]

Still Mid-October

[charred linden]

For some reason I have 15th October in my brain but maybe just because it's Mangmi air x day. Mid October was confirmed... But the Mangmi was due mid September 🤣

[left grove]

No date yet

[charred linden]

They really should just launch on the same day. Bundle them for a slight shipping discount, everyone wins!

[twin flower]

This might replace the Retroid Pocket Classic for me, despite losing that sweet OLED screen. I don't want to spend the extra money on the RP Mini v2 because I only play lower end consoles.

Hoping there's no major flaws here. 🤞

[elder tapir]

Same. Most games from modern (PS4/Switch 1 and up) consoles that I would play are also available on the PC and/or Switch that I already have.

[sturdy zinc]

The preorders is almost 9000 in China. I think the rest of the world will have to wait for a while. They may still open preorders mid October but shipping will probably take a while

It’s an order or magnitude bigger than usual Ayaneo devices and they already have delayed shipping usually.

[elder tapir]

So would it be feasible to arrive for international customers by the holidays?

[vestal flame]

that is a fair point

[limpid galleon]

with Ayaneo doing 10k devices I expect nothing until next year

[elder tapir]

Damn. I see. This is the first new device launch I’ve paid close attention to, so I’m learning how these tend to go.

[empty sentinel]

Same

[elder tapir]

I’m not saying they all ought to be Leapsters, but we have enough solid black, white, or grey devices in our adult lives, you know? Let the fun machine look a little fun.

Although this could be me showing my relative youth here a bit as the NES/SNES/GB look that a lot of greys harken back to was a bit before my time. For most of the community with the disposable income to buy these things, that is what fun looks like

[urban hull]

Agreed, more Fun colors please

[sweet veldt]

3 color options are more than enough and just gets messy for small businesses to manufacture multiple colors and often leads to added expenses.
No thanks , I’ll take the “boring” colors everytime to save a few bucks

[elder tapir]

True, they are more practical

[urban hull]

Then maybe we Skip White, Black, & Grey lol

[sweet veldt]

Go ahead and skip them

[left grove]

The fact that they've sold/people pre-ordered 9000 of these in China alone says alot

Then again, that price is

Too tempting

[sweet veldt]

Maybe if popular enough ( so far it seems like it's a big hit even before release ) they make special colored editions

All I know is I want to see this in reviewers hands that I can actually understand

Surprised ETA hasn't gotten a hold of one

[sturdy zinc]

I guess they will send after the overseas preorders are open

To capture the hyped orders

[fervent mica]

Ayaneo Pocket Air Mini video review: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1m3xTzEEZ2/

[empty minnow]

I really need to start to learn Chinese..

[zealous mauve]

its funny, i can kinda read mandarin (ie. i can get the gist of the sentence) but the moment i hear it spoken i give up instantly

tonal languages are a bitch

[opaque egret]

https://youtu.be/QGX6G22FJGM?si=jKRlXMbswLN81IaX

Pocket air mini footage around 23 minutes mark

[limpid galleon]

man, this has no dice against the 476h aside from price

[woeful acorn]

Yeah hard to beat free(since we overpaid for the s2)

[rain pendant]

Hearing that it feels similarly premium to their other devices was enough to convince me that this will be a great gift to get for my nephews later down the road

[limpid galleon]

I just allotted 75€ to it so my S2 price doesn't seems sooo bad

[rain pendant]

Idk, I think it’s surprisingly nice and close to the 476h. But that might also be bc I think the 476h is fairly overpriced x3

Which feels insane to say about an Anbernic device compared to an Ayaneo one, but that’s the timeline we’re in

[limpid galleon]

honestly I think the 476h is one of the best Anbernic has made so far

and yes it should be more like $130-140 at normal price instead of $165 or whatever it is, but oh well

[rain pendant]

It’s a great device for sure, but yeah, hopefully it goes down in price later

[limpid galleon]

give it 2-3 more months and you will see sales anyway yeah

[rain pendant]

Mainly happy that the Air Mini might genuinely be really good and legit for its price point, but we’ll see how well it holds up once we get more reviews in and from English speakers as well

[limpid galleon]

I suspect it will burn your hands, but oh well

[faint chasm]

Anbernic like never changes their normal price but do so many sales that basically that retail normal price means nothing.

Look at the 351 and other older device prices lol

[left grove]

I wish I could understand chinese so I could understand the BiliBili vid

[empty sentinel]

hmm i kinda wanna see if this can do rpg maker pokemon fan games via joiplay

since its 4:3

[vestal flame]

hmm probably

[zenith breach]

https://youtu.be/3utr_78qJpA

[elder tapir]

The one time I’m grateful for YouTube’s AI auto-dubbing

[twin flower]

Looking good!

[stiff hatch]

I just dislike the fact that it looks so similar to the RG Cube

although Anbernic copied ther design first 😛

[maiden ice]

I think it’s great that they’re reclaiming the design after anbernic themselves basically abandoned the Cube a while back to focus on the CubeXX and 406H, alongside their other future handhelds.

[zealous mauve]

moderately impressed with the performance shown in that video

looks like aya's software is actually helping, their tailored performance modes seem to help the g90t unlock a decent amount of extra performance

still doubtful over some of aya's performance claims (gt4 is not gonna run on this at proper framerates bffr) but this easily destroys every device in its price bracket, its not even close

when do global orders start for this?

[stiff hatch]

Sure, rightfully so, but the footprint remains

[cedar cliff]

the d-pad on ayaneo is usually mid tho

[stiff hatch]

I do really like the Sega-style dpad

[cedar cliff]

yeah I wish more companies adopted it

[limpid galleon]

fuck Sega d-pads, also quite honestly Aya has some excellent d-pads IMO, arguably there is a bit of variety to them unlike with Retroid/Ayn, so some are better and some are a lil worse, but on the devices I have from them they are pretty much all the same ballpark with the competition, so no complaints

[cedar cliff]

heresy

[stiff hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/bad-opinion-your-opinion-is-bad-and-you-should-feel-bad-zoidberg-bad-gif-1041977452711668037

[cedar zinc]

I'm kind of obsessed with the idea that this < £100 console has the potential for 100% saturn emulation with retroarch beetle core. Am I being too optimistic?

[hot steeple]

Yeah

[turbid quarry]

Yeah full Beetle requires a powerhouse, relatively speaking

Like I'm pretty sure you need something like the D1100 (RP4 Pro) at least for it

[cedar zinc]

That would be the shared take from what I have gathered 🙂

And thank you for the input 🙂

[lofty verge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0FAZ1jI410

Hey Hey TechDweeb's review is here dude 😎

[atomic pumice]

Watching it now

[limpid galleon]

they should have send him the black one

oh they did

[lofty verge]

yaa, it's black unit

[zealous mauve]

techdweeb lowkey top 3 handheld reviewer i love him

[left grove]

9 hours with SNES and 4 with GCN is mad impressive

[fervent mica]

That LCD ghosting though 😥

Acceptable for the budget Air Mini, but I don’t think I’ll go for the Pocket S Mini anymore

[vestal flame]

anything at this price point is just gonna come with compromises sadly

[rain pendant]

I’m… not really noticing any?
But I haven’t used any OLED displays besides my iPhone’s (which is apparently one of the worst ones out there)

[mental haven]

It wouldn’t be ayaneo without it

[rain pendant]

But even if I did notice, I wouldn’t complain/find it acceptable for the price like you do yeah

What you’re getting here is genuinely awesome for how surprisingly inexpensive it is

Should be an excellent gift for my nephews

[vestal flame]

gotta remember for some people that it's effectively being murdered 😄

[rain pendant]

I’m still trying to wrap my head around a sub-$100 Ayaneo device existing at all 🗿

They really just decided to wake up one day and just murder the H700 Anbernic devices in a back alley

[mental haven]

I mean those probably cost $40 shipped now during Ali sales

Apam will be 80+20 shipping, so $60 more if you don’t get hit by tariffs

[rain pendant]

Anbernic is usually doing sales for those as well on their site.
Nonetheless, I’m very happy to be seeing devices that can play upscaled N64 & Dreamcast perfectly at this price point

[mental haven]

Of course, that price segment has been lacking for long enough

Especially after the RP2S was discontinued

[rain pendant]

This thing is a better RP2S with a larger display that is also cheaper than what the RP2S was at launch

[kindred lantern]

when does this thing launch?

[mental haven]

I‘m not sure how the shipping situation will look like with how many domestic orders they have to fulfill first

[rain pendant]

Ok, yeah I’m seeing the ghosting now, but I did not notice until TechDweeb pointed it out and zoomed in.
Unsure if I would’ve noticed in person on my own.

[limpid galleon]

it's pretty noticeable and while that screen is fine for the Air Mini, I really hope they don't use the same panel in the Pocket S Mini

all things considered, they should just pay out of their ass to get Anbernics panel for that one

[rain pendant]

This video also reaffirms that no one should really be getting the 2gb ram model.
The G99 chip on my old Android phone is similar to the G90T in performance, and that doesn’t really crash on New Leaf unless I try to use save states

The 3ds games crashing in here is definitely a RAM issue

Not that you should be mainly getting this for 3ds, but still a nice bonus system along with some GCN and PS2

[limpid galleon]

it's generally weird that this ain't 3 or 4gb of RAM like the RP2S

[rain pendant]

Least the 3gb model is only $10 more

[limpid galleon]

quite frankly the 2gb model is literally only okay if you want 5th gen or below and even with PSP I would be skeptical tbh

[vestal flame]

yeah the 2gb model feels pointless

[lofty verge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soqSSbX6nsw
Here's a look of white unit but still the review unit is 2/32 GB

[atomic moat]

2gb ram especially with all the fanciful software they have would be miserable, if someone comes out with a more stripped down/barebone android for it it might be ok

[twin flower]

Am I correct that ghosting is not fixable with software? If it's there on the panel, it's there no matter what?

[atomic moat]

Don't have time to watch the video yet, is the ghosting better, same or worse than o2?

I find o2 one still ok, though that might be because I don't play much older 2D/scrolling stuff on it, find it mostly noticeable only when scrolling menus etc.

And maybe it's really this 35ms screen
#🔥│upcoming-chat message

[tribal tiger]

not fixable, that's just the physical characteristics of the panel

[tribal tiger]

video didn't really show the ghosting that much, barely a few seconds on one scene, so it's hard to say

but to me it looks okay for a budget handheld

if people were fine with the panels on the Anbernic's XX line they'll be fine with this

that being said I probably wouldn't get the S Mini either

[empty minnow]

So they can do 4PX for the Air but not for the Konkr? 🧐

[limpid galleon]

just ask them to DPD it, still paying DHL prices, but oh well

better than paying taxes

[zenith breach]

no way they give him 2gb variant

ayaneo trolls

[mental haven]

apparently because the apam is cheap enough as to where it doesnt matter if it gets lost

might have been progamer who said that

[limpid galleon]

nah they literally said that themselves

[mental haven]

why does he say they sell it on indiegogo (2:52)

did I miss something

[mental haven]

did they also say something about the sales platform

dweeb got me confused

[limpid galleon]

what's there to get confused about? it's IGG as always

[atomic moat]

They have a page on their own site and prompt people to sign up for a some extra protective film there, how is that going to work if it's via igg

[lofty verge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_N8xtNHyDU

ETA Prime review 🔥

[limpid galleon]

just use the same mail address for both

[lofty verge]

ETA Prime is also saying that he believes they're running IndieGoGo for this device (Timestamp: 3:12)

[limpid galleon]

that sounds less like a review and more like him repeating the marketing material, how many times does he has to say that this is the worlds first 4:3 4.2" panel

[lofty verge]

haha lol, at least I'm happy that the reviews are finally coming for Pocket mini xD

[mental haven]

That’s what I was thinking

[atomic moat]

I did not watch his videos recently, does he usually do the same as what he did for the pocket air video above? Just show a pic/name and throw out a number for game performance for the higher end systems?

GT4 1x 60 fps full speed 👀

Gow2 53fps, is that the highest number reached or something 🤣

[limpid galleon]

I mean, you could make half of what didn't work probably run with PAL roms anyway

still wouldn't buy this for GCN/PS2, but yeah no surprise that the easier to run GCN games run full speed at 2x, this is pretty close to the G99 after all

[zenith breach]

it better than g99 in every possible scenario

[limpid galleon]

only in your little world, that aside, battery life and heat generation is way worse with it

[zenith breach]

lie

again (consumption and heat at similar lvl)

[reef shadow]

Yeah I'm pretty sure they told they'll sell it on their store.

[empty minnow]

Tbh I've never ever had a problem with 4PX or Cainiao and I've been regularly ordering from China for at least a decade now.

Maybe it's problematic in the US, but in EU they usually do a far better job than DPD, FedEx and especially DHL. And it's gotten to a point where I get the stuff within 2 weeks, always in mint condition, not a single dent on the packaging.

I don't even care about the tax stuff, it's just that I trust their shipping methods and routes more than I do trust the other carrier networks

[empty minnow]

I'm talking non-express variants of those private shipping companies. DHL Express, FedEx Express, TNT Express have always been stellar. But anything below that tier has been Russian Roulette..

[maiden ice]

Which iPhone? I’ve been seeing literally nothing on my iPhone in terms of ghosting so far.

[rain pendant]

Oh, I didn't say iPhone had ghosting lol

Just that it's apparently one of the worse OLED displays, but that's also just from one person who said that, so Idk how much to really believe that

I have the iPhone 14

Is ghosting common with LCD displays at all?

[zenith breach]

no

[maiden ice]

Ah, I had the 14 Pro before I upgraded straight to the 17 Pro like 2-3 weeks ago (thank you $1100 exchange value for waiting fucking forever).

[rain pendant]

So it's just Ayaneo being inconsistent with LCD displays again

[zenith breach]

no, its great display

[sweet veldt]

Surprised they didn't send one to Russ first , TechDweeb is getting pretty stale with his "look at me I'm a loner Geek" vids.
I get it he's trying to be different but sometimes you want more substance, I actually thought ETA did a better job in the showcase

[rain pendant]

It's a good screen for the price, I agree.
It's just that it has ghosting as TechDweeb's video has shown

But not something I would've noticed if it wasn't mentioned or focused on at all like it was in the vid

[sweet veldt]

Not sure what you expected for a sub $100 device running Android, people blow this way out of proportion a lot of times

[rain pendant]

Are you saying I blew it out of proportion too?
I never said it was bad lol

Or just talking in general?

[sweet veldt]

Nope , in general

[empty minnow]

Tbh, for that price point seeing something other than the 10000th Anbernic iteration is refreshing

[rain pendant]

Ok, gotcha.
Tbf, that seems to happen a lot in this hobby

People blowing things out of proportion I mean

[zenith breach]

it has ghosting, but seems like it tiny

better than rp4p

[sweet veldt]

It's a great screen for the price

[empty minnow]

The real question should be: is the display better or worse than competing offers around that price

[zenith breach]

better

[empty minnow]

And I'd wager a guess that it at leadt isn't worse

[rain pendant]

Higher resolution than the upcoming XU Dream 1, and similar quality to the Mangmi Air X screen, but that's 16:9

[zenith breach]

that was actually crazy end of the year, we get x2 sub 100 ps2 compatible devices

[rain pendant]

This is imo the best 4:3 display for this price bracket

[maiden ice]

As long as it’s better than offers that were more expensive, it shouldn’t be too much of an issue for most people, although it definitely would be an issue for people actually sensitive to the issue.

[empty minnow]

Yeah, but if you want better, then pay more 😉

....if there were more any premium 4:3 options...

[maiden ice]

Which is the exact reason why it would want to be better than more expensive options.

[rain pendant]

We'll see what that so called "mortgage screen" for the Retroid Mini 2 will end up being like

[empty minnow]

There aren't even better options imo

[empty minnow]

Tbh I'd be really looking forward to a slightly bigger, true 4:3 Mini2 V1

I still love my Mini V2 though

But for stuff like GB(C)

or other handhelds that were meant for small displays

[rain pendant]

4.5 inch 4:3 OLED would be very dreamy.
But I'd take at least a 4 inch screen

[empty minnow]

I'd like 4:3 at RP5 height, just narrower in total

And maybe actually more retro-y

I love the black glass fronts for modern and/or compromised aspect ratios

But 4:3 could/should look like a proper retro console imo. The Air Mini kinda nailed that

Just missing the front firing speakers for endgame potential

[sweet veldt]

What size screen is the mortgage screen from Retroid ?

[opaque egret]

Yeah Im weird but kind of wish there would be a version of this one without analog sticks and only 2 shoulder buttons. Just for handheld and 8/16 bit gaming. But Id rather wait for retroids mini successor

[empty minnow]

What's a "mortgage screen"?

The RP Mini sceeen aka LG Wing display? 3.92" at almost 1:1 ratio iirc (sth like 32:29)

[opaque egret]

Did you missed the mini screen drama?

[vestal flame]

if the mortage screen is even real 😄

[limpid galleon]

nah, that was only the immediate solution we forced onto them after we found out that they cut off part of the screen to make the fake 1280x960 display...

[empty minnow]

Not the drama, but this post I missed

[empty minnow]

I'm actually kinda glad that turned into the RP Mini V2. That thing is almost perfect for GB(C) stuff and small old handhelds

[brazen sable]

Hey all, where can I actually buy this device? I watched techdweebs video on it and he mentions indigogo but I can’t actually find it on there

This is my first time looking at buying something not readily available in aliexpress

[limpid galleon]

we spend a whole weekend bullying them and they basically yielded to my whole list of demands, so yeah, glad it came to be

[empty minnow]

Does that discount extend to Mini V2 owners that are actually happy with the Mini V2? 🤣

I missed that. Thanks for bringing this to my attention

Cutting off the RP Mini screen was such a weird thing to do lol

[limpid galleon]

it will go up for sale in like a week or two or so, we don't know the exact date yet and China is still on holiday right now, also don't expect it to ship anytime soon tbh, they have like 10k domestic orders by now, I'm worried that catching up with them will take a while and them selling through IGG is mainly because there may be delays in shipping this stuff

[limpid galleon]

I don't think that discount is still on the table tbh, that was from a week before we gone and bullied them into making the Mini V2, accept all returns and pay for shipping themselves

tho arguably they said they are still commited to the mortgage screen, so I hope we will see a 4:3 4.5" 1440p 120hz OLED panel soon

[empty minnow]

Mini v2 is what the Mini should have always been.. such a nice little nifty device.. I sold it after a few weeks but got remorse and just bought it back a week ago..

[limpid galleon]

I bought two and no regrets

[empty minnow]

I could live with 60Hz OLED on a 4:3 tbh. 60Hz BFI is unusable to me

I want them to make a 120Hz RP6 though.. or RP5 Pro, whatever

[limpid galleon]

nah it will totally be 120hz, everything else would be insane

question is more about size and resolution

well 1280x960 would be the minimum, but we pushed for 1440p

hope they comply

[empty minnow]

lol

[limpid galleon]

but I doubt it

[empty minnow]

1280x1024 and cut it down to 960p and we're good

[limpid galleon]

so yeah 4:3, 1280x960, 120hz seems pretty set... size really is the variable here

[empty minnow]

Cutting off the screen is kinda fine

Anbernic does it all the time

[limpid galleon]

no cut screens

[limpid galleon]

they in fact don't, the claims about the 34xxSP were wrong

[empty minnow]

The SP yeah

But the 34XX afaik is a 4:3, could be wrong though

Which isn't inherently bad

You'd just have to do it right

[limpid galleon]

it ain't, they just glued the connector on weirdly

[empty minnow]

Tbh, I wouldn't have bought the Mini v1 even if it were a true 4:3 without the problems

Those bezels looked ugly

And 4:3 at 3.6" isn't gonna cut it

[limpid galleon]

yeah, the Mini V1 was just dinky lil 3.7"

I mean it still is for 4:3 stuff, but the extra screen for other systems makes the V2 so much better

[hot steeple]

if the mortgage screen isn't real then all hope is lost

[strong marsh]

I think they indeed will have a custom screen, just the part about taking mortgage on house was bullshit 😄

Probably just guilt-tripping the people who were mad about Mini V1 screen

Same with Chris resigning, which fortunately was also not true

[main barn]

will XU dream1 release or will it be just a dream.???

[sweet veldt]

I've given up on anything UX , they announce everything early and build hype but take way too long to bring to the market

Same with Magic X

[empty minnow]

Tbh, I suspect we'll see the Thor/Odin 3 screen (or a trimmed down version of it) in an RP6

Can't be a coincidence that Retroid announced a custom screen and a few months later Ayn shows up with a "custom" screen too out of the blue

[bitter arrow]

god fucking damn it

the mortgage thing was the selling point of it for me, where's the drama in getting a custom screen without some major financial stake involved?

[obsidian socket]

I've been looking for a slightly nicer but still pocketable replacement for my old RG35XX H and I think this is gonna be the one! After watching TechDweeb and ETA's reviews today I think the overall design, price, performance, and features are just what I'm looking for in a pocket pal 😊

[tribal tiger]

it's kind of chonky, expect it to be bigger than the rg35xxh on the pocket

[obsidian socket]

It definitely looks chonkier, but I always carry my RG35XXH around inside a case in my pocket and it fits just fine. I have had an RG40XXH and was able to pocket that perfectly well too, but the ergonomics of the D-pad placement super close to the edge of the device on the 40XXH just didn't work for my hands.

[sweet veldt]

If it fits in TechDweebs pocket tester pockets it should be decently pocketable

[zealous kettle]

...I'm kinda into this device

[kindred lantern]

the black one is so sexy

[empty sentinel]

Yes yes this will be a replacement for mah RG35XXH aswell

Does it have video out??

For the toy look, Id go for the white but if I just wanna stay sleek, im going for the BLACK

[maiden ice]

Unfortunately no, the Helio G90T doesn’t support DisplayPort Alternate Mode (which is the official term for native USB-C video output as a functionality in chipsets).

[shut ore]

I think the black one will hide the screen bezel the most.

[haughty acorn]

Is there a size comparison somewhere ?

[kindred lantern]

I'm probably the only person in the world that doesn't care about screen bezels though, tbh

[elder tapir]

I don’t either, as long as it’s not 16:9 gameplay on a 3:4 screen, yk

[hexed jackal]

16:9 gameplay on 4:3 screen is such a bad idea

[elder tapir]

Exactly. I barely notice bezels unless they’re that egregious.

[zealous kettle]

I want a device like this as a smaller pocket companion for maybe some gamecube and down

I'm getting the Thor for the heavier stuff and dual screen but I kinda dig this thing in all black as well.

[twin agate]

Is the device already on sale? I see links on AliExpress to purchase it, although the Retro Power Edition is sold out

[versed shore]

Nope, not on sale

[twin agate]

this is random

[versed shore]

I'm pretty sure the seller here is just some random guy.

[twin agate]

It's already happened with many devices, so I wanted to confirm it

[versed shore]

He'll get your money, wait for Air Mini to come out, and re-send it to you

Yeah you should only buy from official sellers on ali

[twin agate]

So it's basically a reservation with a higher price

[versed shore]

Nah, it's even worse.

[twin agate]

meh, well, let's keep waiting. It would be great if 11.11 arrived mini zero 28 It became very small for me

[urban notch]

The release date for this is the 15th right?

[still nacelle]

Last I heard intl. pre-orders go live Mid-October, shipping out December

That might be outdated tho

Watching the preorder window like a hawk though 👁️

[sweet veldt]

That might be pushed back for the rest of us as domestic orders are in the 9 to 10 thousand range

[left grove]

Which is still crazy to think about

[elder tapir]

Good for them!

[twin flower]

Maybe if they scale production they'll lower the price! 😂

[tribal tiger]

I remember there was a quote going around from Arthur saying he was going all in and manufacture thousands

I guess that worked out huh

[zealous kettle]

is this one of those you need some indiegogo to pre order or you just have to wait until its on the site?

[elder tapir]

I can’t even find the IndieGoGo page for the product that would let me back it

[zealous kettle]

same I guess I'll just wait

[warm merlin]

i’m getting this as soon as it comes out

3 GB Retro power 🔥

[atomic pumice]

I would love to throw my money at this out of sheer curiosity

[atomic pumice]

This might have just turned me off

Actually, I've never went through with a pre-order

Why not

I like this little thing and idk why

It's just neat

[iron belfry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0M4qnnyo2MI

[kindred lantern]

Stop, I can only get so erect. It's so sexy, like a little itty bity Steamdeck

[iron belfry]

I don't know if those prices were already confirmed or not before, but damn... they seem pretty damn good to me tbh.

[vestal flame]

yeah confirmed prices 🙂

[atomic moat]

This probably a better one to refer to
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1412470785213468838/1418323468742688798/88_-_Noirbright.jpg?ex=68ea0c6a&is=68e8baea&hm=0aa9826b515318c9599e85c71eec0191989be4e58eadf30f67c098afaf209aae&

[twin flower]

Nice to see the "2G okay" badges on the games they claim run well. I feel like they're at least trying to be transparent, though not sure what their definition is of running well.

No reason not to go "3" on this though.

[warm merlin]

i'm going for the high 3+64 GB Retro Power model

[elder tapir]

Same but in white.

[stiff hatch]

I usually detest one-way colorways but find black the most tasteful here

[left grove]

I like all three, but leaning to the the black or retro

[obsidian socket]

I'mma do the early bird 3 gb version, though I can't quite decide between the red and white or the retro power colorway. I guess I've got some time to make up my mind though!

[still nacelle]

I'm getting 3gb solely because it's an Android

[warm merlin]

this is the perfect linux handheld. will be awaiting the day that batocera comes to this.

[civic moon]

I'm going to buy the black and also the red/white then swap all the red parts to the black one and sell the white with black. 🤔

[kindred lantern]

I dunno why but I'd love the black one with the green shoulder buttons. But I'm going for black because it looks kinda matte

[woven vale]

https://x.com/ayaneo__/status/1976901571566047641?s=46&t=W6WfgknjfK4-AMAr6C71lA

AYANEO (@AYANEO__)

#AYANEO Pocket AIR Mini🎮
The truly affordable Android Retro Handheld for everyone 🔥
INDIEGOGO Campaign Live⏳10/14/2025 8:00 AM EST
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X · Oct 11, 2025, 6:43 AM

Here we go!

Day before mangmi

Poor mangmi

[vestal flame]

yesss

[atomic moat]

still igg? strange to let igg take a cut for a low priced product.
Hope the shipping for this won't be like their other campaigns。。。

[sturdy zinc]

It’s a weird choice

By the way preorders in China exceeded 10k, wild

[thorny rain]

No way they can meet that demand in a reasonable time. IGG is so they can slow walk these out

[sturdy zinc]

That’s good reasoning

Maybe they also want to show off the numbers

[thorny rain]

They are even having problems shipping the pocket fit within China on time

[atomic moat]

I hoping the anbernic rg ds be priced/speced well enough to kind of be a competitor to this (though the different formfactor)

[sturdy zinc]

It think rg ds will just be $99

<$100 lol

Leave some room for discounts. It’s not like it has any competitor at this price range

Ok maybe there is one competitor, MagicX Zero 40

And that’s $80, right?

[fervent mica]

Air Mini’s preorder deposit is only $1.50, so it’s hard to say how many will actually pay the full price later... especially with the RG DS releasing in ready stock this month at a similar low price

[stiff hatch]

https://youtu.be/t45EuJlwWZc?si=AfCeyFzu7nvIr_uv

[zenith breach]

who need rg ds

bunch of DS fans

[zenith breach]

no way he tried ZERO and MW

[stiff hatch]

what's that?

[zenith breach]

most demanding game on gamecube

and most on ps2

wonder why he dont run it via gc also ... (best via x86, would be super playable)

cpu not enough for ps2 version

[stiff hatch]

F-zero and Most Wanted?

[sweet veldt]

Speaking of the Magmi for comparison which one is more powerful the T90 or SD 662?
Yes slightly different form factors but just curious who wins the budget battle

[limpid galleon]

you mean the G90T, which is way more powerful

like G90T > G85 > 662

[zenith breach]

T90, How much? BY ALLOT

[limpid galleon]

I'm honestly surprised how much they pull out of the G90T, which in all honesty is weaker than the T820... and just because I threw in the RP2S SoC, honestly we are cooking some stuff right now with these budget Android devices

[zenith breach]

Geekbench6: single multi vulcan open gl

[sweet veldt]

Wow ,very surprised.
Thanks but I see no reason to buy the Magmi now besides it having a 16:9 screen .
Really didn't realize how weak the SD 662 was compared to the T series chips

[zenith breach]

that what im talking about, mangmi dead twice

by air mini and by K59 16x9

G90T, G99

[haughty acorn]

Same response as always : potentially the best cheap widescreen Portmaster handheld. The Rocknix team is working on running Linux on the Air X, which none of the others can apart from the RP5 (at double the price).

[sweet veldt]

Really don't care for Rocknix TBH but glad someone is holding on for the Magmi , I'm sure if this came out 6 months ago it would of been a big hit but not so much anymore. Still I hope they do well

[zenith breach]

if they can port rocknix it will already was announced (they have unit already +- month), but seems like there no way to do it except qualcomm help team

[sweet veldt]

Shouldn't the T90 be above the 720G ? Besides slightly better single core score the T90 beats it but a large margin with vulcan and open GL

[zenith breach]

should, that first sheet version

but also 720g is way better in x86

bc of turnip drivers

so in real world with x86, even 662 will wipe G85

[thorny rain]

G510 is pretty good

[strong marsh]

You guys always need to remember about $30 on top for shipping

So the real prices are $100 and $110 during super early bird

Still good but not that great anymore

[zenith breach]

but mtk now much and much better than before in x86 emulation, bc of new wrapper legaao (https://github.com/leegao/bionic-vulkan-wrapper/releases)

[zenith breach]

yeah with linux

it boost it so hard

[sweet veldt]

That’s for everything shipped now though , so whatever you buy is a extra $20-$30

Not sure what your point is

[delicate spear]

Magicx will have 10 dollar shipping for when their product releases in 2038

[upper coyote]

Not Anbernic devices sold on AliExpress though. And some of them are far too cheap to be “hiding” a $30 shipping cost

[strong marsh]

XU and MagicX has $10 shipping, Anbernic will have $0 on aliexpress and sites lite Bangood and Geekbuy

So XU DREAM 40 will be $76 in total vs $110 for Ayaneo Pocket Air Mini

[sweet veldt]

Air Mini T90 is substantially better than the G85 though .
So to some the extra $30+ dollars is still a better deal.
Personally not a fan of anything XU or even Magic X

Not sure what $100 Anbernic handheld could compete with the Mini Air

[zenith breach]

it will not compete with anything

just separate device market for DS fan base

[sweet veldt]

Plus not everyone likes using AliExpress as some are just rip off sites that send you something you never ordered . Sure not all but it has happened
Not all

[sweet veldt]

Already have a almost new like DS and the Anbernic DS is a T618 I think so still substantially weaker .
Plus I don’t trust Anbernics software

[zenith breach]

substantially more powerful*

[main barn]

basically base on antutu score is by 50 percent.

[zenith breach]

antutu is nothing

[main barn]

g90t, g85 and s662 are mid tiers
processor
they are great on psp/dreamcast and n64 games.
for ps2/gc and 3ds will be bonus.
anbernic t820 is far stronger than g90t also struggle with ps2 as ps2 quite demanding.

if u want bigger screen 5.5 inches and 16:9 for better psp games.
better 3ds and ds as bigger screen estate choose mangmi air x

if u want 4.2 inches 4:3 devices and more playable ps2/gc then choose ayaneo pocket mini.

in my opinion, pocket mini and air x has different strength and weakness. choose u want big psp screen or more playable ps2 games. both are great devices

[zenith breach]

its not far stronger -_-

if he want 16x9 chose K59 not mangmi

[tepid mango]

For the same shit screen and build for the same overpriced value of the k56?

[zenith breach]

k56 overpriced? (about quality some of reviewers says they upgrade screen and build, unconfirmed for now)

now maybe, but when it release it was good deal

[main barn]

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn4wkd7729po

will this tariff affected those people order their devices from the US.

[hot steeple]

It might, very good chance he's bluffing though

But also a good chance he's not

[waxen quartz]

He needs money for his new kid with satan

[warm merlin]

oh heck yeah

i have enough money to get the early bird 2GB, that's okay lol

[main barn]

dont get 2G, get at least 3G

[warm merlin]

i dont have enough money bro

the 2G is just fine

[sweet veldt]

Isn't it only an extra $10 ?

[haughty acorn]

For only $10 less, the 2GB makes literally no sense.

If $10 extra is a problem for you, change hobbies.

Honestly.

[still nacelle]

The headroom for Android is a must

[muted root]

The 32gb of internal memory is a bigger issue than 2gb ram.Its ridiculous.

[haughty acorn]

@hot steeple Not really sure why you downvoted. As jabbathehut mentioned, the 32GB of storage of the 2GB RAM version means that an SD card is pretty much necessary, whereas you can get a lot further with 64GB of storage. The $10 difference is a ridiculously small offset once you factor in the shipping and aforementioned SD card.

Also I meant what I wrote : if you can afford a $70 toy, you can likely afford to pay $10 more.

[rain pendant]

Normally I would be against encouraging falling for price ladder tactics, but it’s literally just $10 lol

Zero reason to get 2gb one

[haughty acorn]

The 2/32 version shouldn't even exist. 32GB of storage in 2025 is a joke.

[rain pendant]

Honestly would’ve preferred a 4/128 model existing for a bit more than the 3/64

[haughty acorn]

Exactly.

[tepid mango]

I think everyone agrees with that

[zealous mauve]

its not surprising that the 32gb model exists

are there any handhelds this price that come with more than that

64gb inbuilt storage for this price is pretty unheard of iirc

mangmi air x prob the only one

[tepid mango]

My problem is not the internal storage

Is more the lacking ram

[hot steeple]

Feel like it was pretty obvious why I downvoted tbh. I don't disagree that the 64 GB version makes more sense but the "change hobbies" comment is kind of cringe. It is supposed to be a budget handheld after all.

[haughty acorn]

That's my point : if according to your finances it's a budget purchase, a 10% increase that you would have paid anyway for a storage upgrade should be well within your budget. Getting the 2GB version with only 32GB of storage without buying an SD card means you'll be extremely limited in which games you can install, and if you just don't intend to play the more recent systems with larger games, then this handheld makes little sense and you should get something cheaper.

There's no logical reason to buy the 2/32 version. 🤷‍♂️

[zealous mauve]

dont get me wrong i also agree that the 2/32 ver prob shouldnt be purchased

but i think it exists moreso for aya to say they have a ps2 capable handheld for that low a price

[haughty acorn]

And if the purchase is irrational, it has to be a collector or someone for whom $70 is pretty much petty cash… and if it's not, well… changing hobbies is really a sane financial advice, don't you think ?

Anyway.

I didn't mean to offend anyone. I genuinely think that people should be discouraged from buying the 2/32 version because I think it's a false economy.

[main barn]

so that they can sell u at 70 dollar to uncut mangmi air x selling at 75 dollar for using the voucher. techdweeb has 2G review unit, he mention when he load 3ds game it crash as due to low memory as android do use your ram memory also.
for 10 dollar, strongly advise to get 3G model.

[sour shard]

Imho, 2gb ram consoles needs extremely lite version of Android, without google services, similar to/or GammaOS Core - on 2gb ram magicx zero28 with GammaOS, all 3ds games loading with vulkan turned on, and it's still about 500mb of ram left free👆

[hot steeple]

I mean no, not really, why would someone buy something cheaper, then they'd be getting even less for their money. You're going to need an SD card regardless of which sku you buy

[zenith breach]

with pico gaps

fine

[main barn]

getting interesting, another mid tier device magicX One35 is joining to compete the mid tier market. and it is the cheapest at 55 dollar for 3G model.
this one can play fully
psp/dreamcast and n64
and can play some ps2 /gc and 3ds. amazing!!!
2025 is a good year for retro handheld.

this one slower than g90T but faster than s662.

using G85 chipset

[limpid galleon]

I wouldn't really say it can play "some" PS2, because this sits in the same ballpark as t618 devices... which honestly were pretty ass for PS2 and 3DS... well the emulation for the later improved, so some GCN and 3DS I will admit, but fuck no, don't buy this for any PS2 at all

still the cheaper model comes in at $74 shipped, which is great value for something way more powerful than an Anbernic XX device

[main barn]

anyway ps2/gc/3ds are bonus system. if u got ps2 turn based rpg that u wanted. high chance with mod and setting u can get it to play. but must lower expectation for ps2/gc and 3ds.
but psp i believe all games will be great although small screen at 3.5 inches.

[limpid galleon]

true true, tho it's a 3:2 panel, so it's not too bad for PSP... 3.3" for that, compared to 3.9" on the Mini

[main barn]

i thought 4:3 thats good 👍

it is really great, mid tier chipset to be priced at 55 dollar is really great. this mean that the high mid tier s865 chip may soon reach like 130 to 150 dollar soon.

[limpid galleon]

I mean the RP Mini V2 is already $179 now

[main barn]

still expensive but retroid need to slash their prices as ayn thor and konkr fits price quite near to rp5 and give better spec and performance.

[limpid galleon]

true true, I wouldn't go for the RP5 even at $199 now, compared to the KONKR at just 50 more, but oh well

[kindred lantern]

completely unrelated, but can I ask about your username? Are you a huge fan of the Insurance Corporation of British Columbia or something?

[main barn]

only rp4pro seem okay as it got d1100 chipset can play 80-90 percent of ps2 library. but screen only 4.7 inches 16:9 aspect ratio.
selling at 149.

[zenith breach]

it can play 100%

what emulator compatible for (i dont count games which can be playable on Gen3/Elite, they just BROKEN)

same as 865

[main barn]

i thought d1100 is slightly worse than s865. or else why flip 2 d1100 sell much cheaper. yes cannot emulate switch due to missing turnip drivers unlike s865.

[zenith breach]

cheaper bc its not qualcomm

[main barn]

thanks. as i have bought rp4pro i thought only 80-90 percent of ps2 and gc. keep thinking rp5 is much more powerful.

[zenith breach]

much if u overclock it

30% free performance boost

equivalent to snapdragon 888 in raw gpu power

[main barn]

how do i overclock it ? need to use custom OS.

[zenith breach]

no, stock os

https://www.reddit.com/r/retroid/comments/1mkqaxp/overclocking_poll_for_retroid_pocket_5_sd_flip_2/?show=original here u go

[main barn]

stock os can do overclocking thanks for this info.

[zenith breach]

best noob guide

u can use overclock even on linux, but it take skill to make

[main barn]

thanks alot. hopefully it will not heat up the chipset too much but got active cooling.

[zenith breach]

well, 5W transform to 7W (real peak consumption)

Stock cooling more than enough

for it

[main barn]

do u have a rp4pro? really under rated selling at 149 dollar quite a good deal.

[zenith breach]

dont, but i use it a while

yeah, im rate this device high for that price

even its not perfect

[main barn]

but the screen at 4.7 inches abit too small. that why likely will order mangmi air x screen 5.5 for psp and n64 gameplay.

[zenith breach]

u wont buy used RP5/Flip2?

allot on ebay

or Razer Edge 5G

[main barn]

my country no market for 2nd hand retro devices. seem like buying new devices cheaper.

[zenith breach]

ouch

pain

there no way to order from Ebay?

[main barn]

yes, no way. so sad 🙁 my country dont even have steamdeck must buy from reseller.

[zenith breach]

what country

[main barn]

mauritius

[zenith breach]

Africa

well, that a big problem

[left grove]

We'll probably see more G1G2 devices for cheaper before we see any more 865 device around that price point. Besides, with how things are trending now, we'll probably see the RP5/Mini/Flip 2 drop again sometime next year after the RP6 and whatever other device comes out

[main barn]

rp6 rumours to use G2gen2 do not know whether this is a good choice or maybe they change to G3gen3 maybe.

but why x86 handheld still so expensive like there is no competition to try to lower their prices to attract more consumer

[zenith breach]

they wont change it

G2 is special for Retroid

[left grove]

It's not really a rumor, it was confirmed during Snapdragon's conference earlier this year that it was using the G2 gen 2

[left grove]

Blame the orange crayon man and AMD selling their chips for lucrative prices to the makes of x86 handhelds

But that's not a convo for here

[woven vale]

Is there an pre-igg page yet?

[sweet veldt]

This more corporate greed than the tariff thing though .
Look at how more expensive the Lego 2 is over the original for one example, sure it has OLED but does it really need to be $400-$500 more expensive than the first model same With ASUS and the Xbox X , you get a pretty crappy performance lift over the Z1E with the Z2E ( sure better ate lower watts but not so much when pushing it a bit )
But your right this isn't the time or place ,

[zenith breach]

@fallen dagger can u run geekbench6 (at least) tests? 🙂 I need stats for my performance data sheet

[opaque egret]

Can someone tell me whats good about this device

[still nacelle]

Big hi-res 4:3 screen, serviceable GC/PS2 (as far as we know), <$100

That's what has me excited anyways

[mental haven]

No, but I can tell you what's OK about it

[hexed jackal]

nice 960p (a bit ghosty, but fine), <$100 Ayaneo is so good

even if it barely plays PS2, it would still be a nice, comfortable step up for PS1/DC

[opaque egret]

Oh nice

[wintry flame]

I I was about to buy the rg 476h but feel like this is probably more powerful and more ideal for PS2 RPGs I plan on playing with it

Both have nice portable form factors

I can't justify a rg 477m even I already own a portal

[fallen dagger]

It's not workin! I've tried to run the CPU Benchmark 3 times and it keeps on crashing half way through. :S

Probably not a good sign...

[sweet veldt]

Give your pocket tester a shot at it

[fallen dagger]

Not letting him out of the basement's basement until he apologises for giving me sass

[fallen dagger]

Looks like GPU test went through okay. OpenCL: 2002, Vulkan: 1967

[tame oxide]

I know you liked the 476h as well (but loved this one). I also know it’s about double the price. Any thoughts on if you had to choose just one (ps1 and below only)?

[tepid mango]

??? Oh of course not, the anbernic one is far more powerful than the aya air mini

[tame oxide]

Yea I was thinking about that as well. I don’t use shaders but I do like upscaling and want to see ps1 on that 120hz screen, so I’ll probably go 476h anyway. I just really like the non-glass front of the ayaneo and their screens are so well tuned for color too…choices choices.

[fallen dagger]

Oh I'm super into the 476H. That's like my main handheld right now. If price isn't an object (and neither of these is crazy expensive) I'd go with the 476H every time.

Even for ps1 and below. That 4.7" screen is so nice, and 120hz for the system is nice and smooth, and the power for most gamecube and ps2 is the icing on the cake.

I also like the flatter form factor. I'm realizing that I'm a fan of slabs.

[tame oxide]

Sort of where I was leaning anyway. I’ll pass on the pocket air mini for now and go for the 476h. I’ve got a whole list of ps1 and below RPGs I’m challenging myself to finish and this seems like the right device for that. Thanks for the reply!

[atomic pumice]

The T820 does beat out the G90T in benchmarks, and based off of other tests it does play more PS2 and GameCube

It's why I skipped this and got a 406H

[umbral ruin]

Agree. The air mini is D-pad top which isnt that ideal for PS2/GC. The 406H is more powerful and has stick top is the better choice if you want Ps2/Gc

Otherwise this device is good for everything under that. I plan to use mine for mainly lower end stuff.

[atomic pumice]

I also got mine for the same price as the 3+64 Pocket Air Mini

[zenith breach]

well, that close to best android phone/tablet with that soc 😄

but that really weird, cpu shouldnt crashing on device like that ...

[main barn]

406H is so much more expensive and worse it is more expensive rp4pro but rp4pro have a better processor can emulate 80/90 percent of ps2 and gamecube.
pocket mini for price 70 must be compare with anbernic h700 series handheld device. it will be more fair.

i hope anbernic will follow the trend anbernic ds using a good chipset like g90t chipset rather than h700 series. although anbernic ds look promising at 100 dollar

[atomic pumice]

It genuinely depends on how much you pay for the handheld

For example

My 406H was $80 shipped

And even at like $110 (which a lot of people usually pay nowadays with sales and coins on AliExpress)

The 406H is the better option

[main barn]

why your 406H is 80 dollar under chipset t820. it is good deal.

[atomic moat]

AliExpress sales coupons seem disabled for alot regions since some time back

[main barn]

406H website selling at 149 dollar. not so great.

[main barn]

u are lucky

to have aliexpress coupon i dont manage to collect any of them.

[atomic moat]

??? I mean the coupons not working for me as well during sale

At least the past two

They stop providing for quite a number of countries/region

[main barn]

darm unfair 🙁

[atomic moat]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Aliexpress/comments/1jd519d/why_is_aliexpress_excluding_so_many_countries/

Global don't work, no country specific codes as well for some. My home page stop displaying codes during sale, similar to some of the comments in the link above

[atomic pumice]

Odd

[haughty acorn]

$80 for a 406h is a fantastic but I've never seen it NEAR that price for Europe, even with coupons.

[turbid quarry]

Yup

Never seen it sub-€120 I don't think

But maybe I'm looking in the wrong places

[zenith breach]

for that low price it can be only used

or refurbished

[sweet veldt]

I've looked weekly and never seen it even close to that price new , must of bought it used or something

[umbral ruin]

406h is going for $103 on AliExpress right now for US only

[still nacelle]

Oh wow

[atomic pumice]

Yeah I got it used, I thought I mentioned it?

[atomic pumice]

At this price even, it’s a better buy than the Pocket Mini

Nonetheless this Ayaneo doofus seems cool

[sweet veldt]

Might of missed but I always liked the 406H but thought it was a bit overpriced and kind of forgot about after Anbernic released handhelds with the new 4.7” screens .
Hows it holding up ?

[atomic pumice]

Don’t have it yet

[sweet veldt]

For a bit over $100 bucks it’s a crazy good deal new

[atomic pumice]

I get it tomorrow though

[atomic pumice]

Yeah, like I said even at that price it’s a better buy

[sweet veldt]

Hope you love it

[atomic pumice]

I probably will, but I have my Odin 2

I got it as a smaller option for some android stuff, since I commute a lot

Also don’t want to risk my Odin 2

[umbral ruin]

One thing to consider is sales. Ayaneo, Retroid and AYN don't really sell on 3rd party so their prices are static. Brands like Trimui, Anbernic and powkiddy do meaning there are opportunities for big sales.

[urban notch]

The igg page isn't up yet right?

[haughty acorn]

Very true. That being said, the US often get much bigger discounts than European countries, so for us it can be a lot less enticing. 😕

Right now the cheapest 406h I can find on AE is at 121€ (136-15).

Sometimes the US prices are nearly half what we pay, and that's not even looking at prices to eg. South American countries.

It's a weird market. 🤷‍♂️

There's a rg557 for 176€ though.

[woven vale]

So is the IGG now on the 17th rather than 14th?

[shut ore]

Yeah, it is going to be a gateway (Drug) into going to that brand that establishes value, and offers premium as well.

[empty minnow]

Tbh, with PS2 so many games support native widescreen or work very well with automatic widescreen hacks, 4:3 really only needs to go up to PS1 era

[hexed jackal]

Fair enough, I just like my PS2 to be on 4:3

[empty minnow]

Yeah, me too. I'm just saying that PS2 has such good 16:9 support that some people (like me) are really looking for a good 4:3 system for stuff that really only works well at 4:3 but aren't necessarily willing to break the bank for a "isn't suited for modern" nice-to-have 4:3 aspect ratio device.

It has it's place imho

[runic needle]

This must be up soon to order, I’m sure they mentioned 14th

[hexed jackal]

17th now

[atomic moat]

17th was announced during the recent stream?
Still no igg page for it.

Probably not possible for most to get it before Jan 2026 at this rate.

[fast coral]

It was a tweet, apparently IGG is making some changes after the buyout and site will be down and new verification for campaign owners. So Aya pushed it until 10/17.

[atomic pumice]

That Jan 2026 thing makes me glad I bought the 406H

[inner crag]

the delays are starting 😂

[rustic edge]

What kind of performance do you think I can get out of this (which consoles can I play) Also, is an extra 1Gb of ram even going to do anything?