AYN Thor

[low lake]

tbh thats zero issue for me 😄

but i do also own portal 😄

and Thor will be basically just Pokemon + NDS/3DS/WiiU

[kind saffron]

Yeah. I dunno if I even really care about Wii U

Playing Wii U titles on switch lite has led me to realize a bigger screen is much nicer

[low lake]

mostly jsut for the "boy goes sailing" HD 😄

[kind saffron]

Haha. Ok. Touche

[low lake]

although havent really did the comparision between HD and regula GC version 😄

[kind saffron]

8gen2 8gb ram sufficient up to Wii u? Like is that basically all you need for the DS experience?

[low lake]

wiiu emu is super early

but on Odin2 windwaker and mario bros u (needed some hack thats inside cemu) worked fine

[gilded pecan]

yeah, I was able to run a few games on cemu on the RP5 just fine, just with lower frame rates

[kind saffron]

K. Maybe I just go that route

$300 is manageable. Higher and it's just so much power I would never use. Have plenty of other stuff for higher emulation and winlator or just native x86

[blissful widget]

Rounded edge in Thor video. This was square in rpflip2 (and ds lite) which promotes cracking

[low lake]

I basically just went base for the switch pokeymens ... so I can di whole series on si gle device

• the fact that we already own rp5 and Mini with rds

[blissful widget]

It was square in their initial renders too but they've fixed it

[gilded pecan]

in b4 the rounded corner makes it crack somewhere else

[hybrid mulch]

Can 8gen2 run ds games in retroarch? I just tried pokemon white on my 8elite phone and it ran like 45fps. I had to use standalone emulator.

[kind saffron]

Might not be far off. Heh. Mechanical plastic is a real bitch

[kind saffron]

Feel like RetroArch cores are always lagging

Fine for most old systems

But I think independent emulators for higher stuff will always perform better

[hybrid mulch]

Melonds core on android also doesn't support internal resolution upscale yet.

It is just a bit nicer to have a few more save state slots.

[kind saffron]

Yeah. For sure

Hmm. Reading up on it 12GB ram might be needed for Wii U. I'm assuming most Wii U doesn't need secondary screen so I could probably run it on other handhelds

[gilded pecan]

you guys know that the res upscale of melonds doesn't work when both screens have 3d action simultaneously?

that bummed me out when I found out

[low lake]

question is improving what will huesos priotizize

with all these ds projects

[hybrid mulch]

Today I learned something new. I just searched inside melonds github and had a good read of the technical details about upscaling.

[hushed ridge]

What??? Why? That makes no sense

[hybrid mulch]

My understanding is that showing 3D objects on both screens simultaneous was a hack on original hardware by itself, and upscaling 3D in emulator is another hack on top of the hack.

https://github.com/melonDS-emu/melonDS/issues/2348

[gilded pecan]

no delays

no changes to purple

[hushed ridge]

Huh, that’s really interesting. But still… other emulators do it

Guess I’ll just have to fall back to Drastic sometimes

[hybrid mulch]

Melonds is still new I guess. Especially on Android compared to officially supported platforms. Not to mention the retroarch core is even more barebone on Android.

[hybrid mulch]

I bailed out and changed to white 🥲

[kind saffron]

Still tempted to go white

It was my original before changing to purple, black, then cancelling 😆

[round quest]

https://tenor.com/view/abstract-sequence-flash-black-white-gif-6213145139556137508

White crew showing up

[hybrid mulch]

Gray with rainbow buttons looks nice too. I am kinda mad that purple is the only one that looks not so good 🥲

[silent notch]

Are there any news on review units being shipped?

[gentle notch]

Idk man you tell me

[errant dome]

White is really good looking. I don't even care about the letterboxing. I just know my greasy hands will ruin the color

Or lack of color

[gilded pecan]

if there were everyone would be posting about it and you wouldn't need to ask

[kind saffron]

yeah, my main fear

[lone elk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNbPxLVS6KI New frontend is in development, that looks like 3DS/DS Nintendo, with friends group showing who playing what, retroachivments, and its making in mind of dual screen devices like AYN Thor

[untold fable]

Maybe once it gets posted for a 10th time then people will know what it is

[icy atlas]

Hey guys has anyone seen this new frontend? It's called iiSU and it looks pretty cool. Haven't seen it posted yet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNbPxLVS6KI

[hearty charm]

It's like deja vu, swear someone shared that same thing like 10 min before you. lol

[icy atlas]

Really? Haven't seen it

[kind saffron]

Lol

[untold fable]

HOLY SH!T IS THAT A DUAL SCREEN FRONT END CONCEPT THAT TAKES INSPIRATION FROM THE 3DS AND WII U ERA

[kind saffron]

It's like those old chain letters/emails. You now have to go post it in 10 more channels or Nintendo lawyers will come and kick you in the nutts

[crude tulip]

only like 20 times today and there is nothing to download yet, so go away

[hearty charm]

Don't feed the trolls and tools, they likely will

[icy atlas]

Ok but have you seen this new frontend called iiSU?

[hearty charm]

You should share it again, I can almost not see your last link on my monitor

[crude tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smacking-other-cat-cat-cat-smack-cat-swat-gif-10347810988835752163

[icy atlas]

I got you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNbPxLVS6KI

[hearty charm]

Thank god, now go do it everywhere else...please

[icy atlas]

🫡

[untold fable]

Don't do that, someone might take iisu with that

[hushed ridge]

Call me when it’s more than just After Effects lol

[hearty charm]

He hasn't posted his link yet in retroid ds or ayaneo ds, they surely need it

you know...since one of the devs isn't already on it lol

[icy atlas]

I am a master comedian

[rose thicket]

HERE YA GO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNbPxLVS6KI

[crude tulip]

gotta call the mods on the next one posting this shit

[icy atlas]

Woahhh cool frontend. Haven't seen it yet

[kind saffron]

i've heard it's like nintendos

or so they say...

[icy atlas]

That's crazy

[kind saffron]

i refuse to click it out of principal now

[rose thicket]

Yea, don't click on it. Nintendo might issu you.

[river falcon]

Has anyone seen this yet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNbPxLVS6KI

[kind saffron]

[untold fable]

We shouldn't spam it because then it becomes less funny, we should wait until anbernic officially announces a dual screen product and post it as the first message in it's thread

[icy atlas]

LMAO

[kind saffron]

or... hear me out... make a new thread in upcoming devices for it

it's basically a device at this point

[wispy fjord]

#1385011384307421224

[river falcon]

Spam what

[untold fable]

No official announcement yet though

[kind saffron]

i meant a thread for this

[river falcon]

Why do we need a thread for my message

[untold fable]

Because it's such a unique and thought provoking message it deserves it's own thread

[kind saffron]

as far as i can tell it's the most popular thing on this server

[river falcon]

I didn't realize I was so popular already

[wispy fjord]

If you are genuinely unsure, just scroll up for a bit.

[river falcon]

I'm glad I could share this with you guys

[river falcon]

My mouse wheel is broken :(

[wispy fjord]

Poor thing.

[river falcon]

You don't need to remind me of my financial position when I have a broken mouse

I know I'm poor

[kind saffron]

lick it, it works sometimes

[river falcon]

Hm

[balmy stump]

If nothing else, do it for the free trip to flavor country.

[kind saffron]

so many dorito flavors

[balmy stump]

a little journey of discovery and nostalgia with each crumb.

[celest rune]

i was thinking to buy black, but now with this ui i must choose rainbow, the video is shokingly gorgeous and i can't wait to see ayn thor with this, LIVE
the hype now is blowing and can't wait for mid october, the monkey is free and my wallet is cryng..
thank you
p.s i think that this will came also with a black interface like phones with a moon to swipe black or white (to please also the black version too)

[gilded pecan]

you guys seen the iisu thing?

[whole linden]

Black!

[celest rune]

i know it ! 😄

[balmy stump]

I kinda need to see it three or four hundred more times....

[kind saffron]

Rainbows like a beige right?

Hmmm

[celest rune]

more sandy stile

[kind saffron]

Hmmm. Might hide the oils and dirt better

[wispy fjord]

You're zoomin'!

[celest rune]

i was thinking about the fingerprint on the black one

[kind saffron]

Yeah. With purple being odd, black fingerprints, and white yellowing/dirt, rainbow might be the true endgame

[celest rune]

what's your thoughts

[kind saffron]

It depends. If it's like Retroid plastic it might not be that bad. The black. If it's like ayns traditional plastic, they'll probably show up

So I think I'll go with the rainbow crowd 🌈

[celest rune]

i think the same

RAINBOW IS THE WAY !

[kind saffron]

Now I just gotta choose model

If I want to do 3ds with scaling I probably need 12GB ram

[celest rune]

my wallet say no to all

[knotty sleet]

Pro was the most popular choice

[celest rune]

but the fuckn heart say pro 256

at least

[knotty sleet]

I recently changed my order from a Lite to a Pro

[celest rune]

if you make the preorder you need to pay it all right ?

ah ok

[knotty sleet]

i thought you said change

if your making an intial order you can use a pay in 4 service if you want

[jolly wadi]

i got the black thor + black odin 3 to match the black bonus bag

[knotty sleet]

I want to buy a black Odin 2 mini, but I have a Thor on the way and need to just wait for that

[elder wing]

I decided to back Iisu cause man, despite it's flaws back then, I loved Miiverse and it's aesthetics

[ancient torrent]

That's a retro arch core problem not the actual SoC

[knotty sleet]

what do you mean by "back" it do they need support

[elder wing]

Donated

[wispy fjord]

They are offering beta early builds to patrons/donators, but it is still happening regardless

[knotty sleet]

ooh I'll look into that when I get my Thor

[wispy fjord]

There's a ko-fi for the graphics side, Usagi, and a patreon for the development side, Sapphire/huesos. Either will give you the builds.

Huesos also gives early access builds to the dual screen emulation improvements they release on github later.

[hybrid mulch]

I was hoping 8elite or 8gen2 could brute force with raw power like steam deck.

[placid vortex]

Did you have a vita

[frigid shore]

Which core were you using? It should be fine on most non-budget hardware.

[vapid rain]

Tried playing my New 2DS XL outdoors for the first time in years earlier today.
Even at max brightness, I genuinely had a hard time seeing the screens.
Yeah, I’m very tempted again in honestly getting the Thor in the future…

[knotty sleet]

Yeah but nothing to do with why I bought it I don't care for the Vita's library

[velvet fable]

Any test units out in the wild yet?

[wispy fjord]

None reported as being sent so far.

[ancient torrent]

Yeah sometimes brute forcing doesn't work lol

[kind saffron]

Especially in this regard. Like the limitations with emulation in general tend to have less to do lack of brute force power, and more to do with how efficient the software is at translating power into performance

It's why you cant just buy a chip that clocks twice as fast and assume double the fps, etc.

[gilded pecan]

you know who you've just summoned right

[kind saffron]

Fuuuuuck

Nah. He's still asleep for his Russian naptime

[knotty sleet]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/e8msr2Lei54

[little sky]

I had no idea iiSU was so popular, I just found out about it today. I have to say it’s the kind of thing that would have me buy the Thor

[slender palm]

its just very new I think its just a bunch of people being excitied about it at the same time more than anything else

[left kiln]

The iiSU discord went from about 100 people 48 hours ago to near 7000 now 😅

In fact, its over that now

[little sky]

Also the Thor has reached product market fit

The year of the dual screen

I’ve been waiting for this

[merry pendant]

It definitely got discovered way out of the handheld emulator niche, lol

So many first time posters assuming it’s an emulator/full 3DS replacement and “hopefully Nintendo doesn’t take this down!”

[slender palm]

yeah ngl their trailer animation is 11/10

[royal kayak]

Needin RGC to make that video

[fringe canopy]

iiSU feels like vaporware. Like it looks nice, but not having an actual coding/developer person on board before announcing it seems strange.

[little sky]

It was a good strategy to raise awareness and get the proper devs on it

[slender palm]

withholding judgement but yeah screams design firm project first, tangible thing second

[crude tulip]

did they already do some shit like a patreon to relieve morons of their money?

[slender palm]

kofi

but yes how did you know

[crude tulip]

well, it's a pretty obvious scam, ain't it?

[slender palm]

its not like its some complete fly by night the person is kinda established as an artist

but idk if that will really translate into building a functional frontend

[crude tulip]

nothing will come of this I'm sure

[wispy fjord]

Huesos is making it already, mixing their Lair Launcher with iiSU's design

[slender palm]

ah that makes more sense then

[frosty vine]

which he'd just started working on

[wispy fjord]

Just search for some of their latest posts here

I mean yeah but Huesos follows through

[slender palm]

weird its not huesos/sapphires kofi linked anywhere on the video then

or even named

like come on

[frosty vine]

He signed on after

[wispy fjord]

It happened after the video but it is official now

[frosty vine]

It's an absolutely garbage way to go about this

[slender palm]

yeah seems like a mess
hope it works out

[frosty vine]

It's not made clear anywhere the video that it's just a concept

[slender palm]

I mean lair launcher is probably fine but the way this other stuff is being shown

[frosty vine]

Yah if they make it happen, great, but people need to stop acting like it's more than it is

[frosty vine]

It's like a week old at this point

So..

[crude tulip]

well, even if someone actually makes it in the end, I don't think the guy who made the video ever had any intention to do so himself

[slender palm]

I mean heusos is proven as capable

hes been contributing heavily to other projects

not concerned about his abilities

[frosty vine]

Yah I don't doubt his ability, but feature parity with the video is a big ask

[slender palm]

yeah im just like so is this a paid daijisho fork/skin or what vibes from that video

[wispy fjord]

Yeah. It'll be good for the community no matter how close it matches the video, and having graphic designers willing to work with a development person will give us more pleasing UI than we usually get.

[crude tulip]

between ES-DE and Beacon I have enough front ends already

[wispy fjord]

Truth but options are nice, especially one we know will make use of dual screen

[frosty vine]

I don't even use front ends, I just think it's a bad idea to get everyone all hyped/give money to something that's currently vaporware & to someone who doesn't feel the need to make that clear in their announce video. If you must, give money to huesos directly since he's already proven himself & has done excellent existing work on DS stuff & seems to be taking lead dev on this, but the rest feels in bad faith.

[crude tulip]

between this being more of a concept video at best and a deliberate scam to part people from their money with no intention to ever release a working front end at worst - which I honestly think off as more likely given how they have not even a beta or anything up but already collect money, I just don't think this will work out at all

[wispy fjord]

Yeah, I wish Usagi would edit Huesos's stuff into the video tbh

https://www.patreon.com/cw/SapphireRhodonite Huesos's Patreon, fwiw, to do my part

I'm in the middle of a move and have no spare funds to contribute myself

[gentle notch]

Yeah that seems pretty suspicious

Donation page but no guarantee for compensation

[slender palm]

like seriously the trailer was pretty good

people pay money for that stuff and not just on fiver

[crude tulip]

dude will buy all the shiny new handhelds with it and don't do shit to realize this project

[upper sail]

I already tried asking, they weren’t willing to.

(Replying now because they only recently responded like 2 days ago and I didn’t notice until now).

[supple mason]

iiSU looks like a great design
but in terms of development, I don't think they realized just how demanding the social features will be

its a big thing to promise

[wispy fjord]

Yeah, the social stuff is like... what infrastructure could you possibly make?

[supple mason]

its easy to add "join game" button
making it work though..

the project is feasible if they just stick to making a launcher with a customizable local profile
and none of the social stuff

[wet edge]

wdym "the intent is driven by switch piracy"

the iisu concept video?

matchmaking for switch emulation would be hard but a nice looking launcher with DS support seems both doable and legal. 'join game'/social stuff was a reach

[last condor]

honestly everything im seeing is making me doubt iisu a lot

having the revenue go to a project lead who made an ad for it is super sketchy

[wispy fjord]

Support @whole linden instead then. He's already working on a launcher that is merging with iiSU, using their graphic assets and his own coding.
https://www.patreon.com/cw/sapphirerhodonite

Don't support the scam, support the one doing the actual work.

Like, if y'all are gonna keep harping on the Usagi side of things at least also praise the one doing the work.

[whole linden]

An actual state of LairLauncher merged with iiSU assets

[wispy fjord]

That looks awesome!

[kind saffron]

Yeah. The hype over the UI aesthetics and it's constant promotion def has me hesitate about what actual features are implemented

@whole linden is the man. So much effort out in. A boss

[last condor]

real tbh, ill throw some cash his way in a few days when i get paid

[whole linden]

That's my goal, a launcher; the other features will be seen. I will make releases based on the launcher idea.

[whole linden]

Thanks, my patrons will get full beta acces!

[last condor]

:D

ofc, anyone working on stuff like this deserves support

[supple mason]

great work so far!

[wispy fjord]

I'm very excited to see it! A home screen section integrated with game access together will be super smooth and appreciated.

Just remember, if people start talking about iiSU or Usagi, steer 'em to Huesos's work, lol

[kind saffron]

Haha. Valid.

Still want to see iiSU succeed but haven't seen much beyond promises

[torpid canyon]

maybe it's too early from them to do so yet when they havent even full filled pre orders yet

[upper sail]

Ok, but I wasn’t even asking for it then and there, I was specifically asking if they could just include a set with my order when everything is all done and ready.

Their response was that they don’t do any custom orders anymore (after the “Black screen lens and buttons on white Odin 2 Mini” thing), even though this should arguably be way easier to do than that was.

[knotty sleet]

offer them $20

[torpid canyon]

You can only ask for it then an there though

Guess you can try again later

[vast ibex]

I also asked them specifically just for the buttons and they said no. I also assume it's because it was just too early.

[upper sail]

I mean, I hope that will be the case since I’d love for them to decide otherwise on the matter.

[knotty sleet]

I would ask to pay for em, and take pleasure in telling you to kick rocks for not

[little sky]

A bit harsh to call a promotional video vaporware. My CEO got paid to solve an issue before the software ever existed. 7 years and 500 employees later I bet the first customer wouldn’t have called it vaporware on day one when no development started yet. You’re effectively hiring someone to solve a problem.

I agree the messaging could’ve been better but scam is not the proper word here

[frosty vine]

they put out a concept video leading to people thinking it was more than it was when there wasn't a single line of code written, that's vaporware, then they're asking for donations, sketch af

if huesos can turn it around, great, but man that's not a great first impression

[upper sail]

You’re pretty presumptuous if you’re assuming I asked them to add them for free, considering I was already asking right from the start how much it would cost to do so.

[wispy fjord]

All I'd like is for people who are excited to be pointed in the right direction to the actual work going on instead of repeatedly being told there's no work being done. Yes it's true that it was a nothingburger when it was posted, but now it's also true that someone with a proven track record is taking the development under their wing now. We should thus support that work rather than turn people away from what is now the smokescreen of a real project.

Really, should just look at it as Huesos getting some sickass graphical assets for his project.

[little sky]

Maybe just different life experiences here! I’ve seen time and time again people offer money for something that doesn’t exist yet, betting that a person will build something. I’ve been on calls where a prospective client makes the offer (for an employer of mine)

[frosty vine]

this isn't a business, it's just a dude on the internet

there's at least some measure of accountability with a business, so it's a false equivalency

[kind saffron]

I mean yeah. They could 100% just walk away

It's not always a bad sign, but can be, when they're initial exposure to the world also involves please send money

[frosty vine]

don't forget 'please make this for me'

& 'don't expect any pay'

[gentle notch]

Yeah that part is crazy

[kind saffron]

Heh. Yeah. I'd say the majority of successful projects in this community started with hobbyists who offered something for free. If down the road they offered a Patreon or similar for access to updates or betas, that's a little different

I don't mind paying. But i usually would like to try a version of it first

[frosty vine]

yah I'm happy to support huesos directly, but not the guy who made the vid

[kind saffron]

Doesn't it share like uncomfortably close assets to Nintendo's UI too? I could see a future "sorry we were forced to shut down and have spent your money"

[frosty vine]

a bit, i dunno if they'd care so much, if it eventually makes it to the play store & it's paid maybe, or dude could just say that & take off 💸 lol

[whole linden]

If something like that happens, that they just go away, I will release all the source code for free on GitHub. I wouldn't let LairLauncher go down.

[kind saffron]

The man

[knotty sleet]

Just saw that Russ thinks his Thor has shipped

[dusk bough]

Where you see dat

[wispy fjord]

I saw that

[torpid canyon]

LOL

[little sky]

That’s cool

I’m really feeling like excitement in the community is at a high

[velvet fable]

All I need to know is if the hinges are at least good enough

[dusk bough]

Yooo nice. Genuinely all I care about is ergo/comfort. I trust they handled the hinge

[wispy fjord]

Oh, thank you. That's a good jump point for others in the future.

[icy atlas]

Getting random shipping notifications and not knowing exactly what they are is like the single greatest problem to have

[gilded pecan]

take that with a grain of salt, Russ gets a lot of packages, and we don't have any confirmation yet that the software is finished and ready to ship

[gilded pecan]

unless it's your job to review them all including shit you don't like/enjoy but get sent anyway

[little sky]

Right it’s like any package could be a potential 15-30 hours of work

[celest rune]

Will it have the hdmi output to play like a switch on tv ?

[gilded pecan]

yes

[red cairn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNbPxLVS6KI

Has anyone sent this yet?

[slender palm]

yes it only gets posted about every 4 hours

[red cairn]

Stop laughing, i havent been here in a week 😡😡😡😡

[crude tulip]

I already suggested auto-banning people who post this scam, but unfortunately the mods can't do that

[flint pumice]

The discord already has more members than es-de

Wild

[dusk hound]

discord needs to add something that locks posting until you scroll up through chat history

wouldn't help with the messages but you'd at least see what videos were posted

[red cairn]

Oh yeah, people are going to read the 8000 messages that are posted here in 2 days so they can see that a project posted 2 days ago has been thoroughly dissected

Also to do be fair discord does a piss poor job of this even when I want to

[crude tulip]

bet that guy made a few grand from his little video and is living good off the money

[red cairn]

Like you'll lose your place and its like "too bad, scroll for 10 years"

[red cairn]

Whats the reason for thinking this

[crude tulip]

because there isn't a single line of code written, they don't even have a programmer and are "hiring" people without pay but it's not an open source project either

[red cairn]

Weird

[slender palm]

the closer you look the more it gets

[crude tulip]

well huesos_96 kinda took up the whole programming thing by integrating some of the design in his launcher, but that won't suddenly make even half of the shown features real

[vernal zinc]

in many countries that would not fly and they'd be entitled to go after him for minimum wage for all hours worked at any point in the future up to a multi-year statute of limitations

(when I ran a brewery I'd get so many offers to work for free by homebrewers or people who were trying to learn to get into the industry and accepting would've been a massive liability)

[red cairn]

Tbh most of the launcher looked like it could just be an emulation station de theme

[crude tulip]

the discord went from 100 to like 7000 users since the video and I bet quite a few idiots donated money to the guy, so welp

[dark steeple]

You have way too much hatred for this lmao, I don't think it's anywhere near that deep

[red cairn]

Makes sense. Non console gaming had a kinda ass experience right now

[dark steeple]

I feel like at worst there's definitely a sense of this being overambitious, but you're taking this like he's done horrible scam artist who's just lying for a quick buck, when there's no real reason to assume so much

[red cairn]

Yeah either this project will be forgotten and nothing will come of it or work will begin. Hard to know cause I dont know the creators or what they've done

[dark steeple]

I have hope itll go well, but I'm realistic in understanding it's a passion project that could end up being over his head in his ideals, but he definitely shows the legitimate desire to try and make this happen

[red cairn]

There's zero reason for people to get invested to the point that you get mad about it. Its only existed for 2 days. I got bigger problems

[fringe temple]

some people just like being angry 😄

[dark steeple]

Work has begun, and while the coding aspect is beyond Usagi, a project like this could never happen with one man unless they're an insane level of talent, and just in graphic design this is really some high grade work, it's just something to wait and see if it can be done as envisioned

[red cairn]

It pisses me the fuck off 🤬🤬🤬🤬

[dark steeple]

Also to be completely fair as well, the fact that it happened to get really big doesn't mean he planned for that or expected it

He didn't even do much advertising of it at all, I saw it from an unrelated reddit post, and then it got picked up by Big names and it cascaded from there

[low lake]

guys guys

have you heard of iiSU?

[red cairn]

Like I said, i think it speaks to the state of android and pc launchers. They all just kinda have a level friction that sucks. If anyone want to follow an open source effor to make a real desktop replacement for gaming theres opengamepadui

https://github.com/ShadowBlip/OpenGamepadUI

[dark steeple]

Wait woah is that the sequel to the Wii™ console????

[devout forge]

is it really a scam?

it doesn't cost any money to use

why would it be a scam?

[flint pumice]

That video has close to 250k views

[flint pumice]

So that’s actually true

[rose thicket]

🤣 🤣 🤣

[red cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-krabs-lets-kill-him-spongebob-gif-26979738

[wispy fjord]

Reminder that if anyone is interested in iiSU, they should support Huesos. He's the one doing the actual coding and creating a dual-screen compatible/focused launcher using the iiSU assets; whether it will reach feature parity with the video or not, we already know Lair Launcher is real and happening. Usagi made the video with nothing to back it up and everyone calls it a scam but then doesn't link the actual work being done in conjunction with it.
https://www.patreon.com/cw/SapphireRhodonite

It isn't fair to the guy who's been working so hard for dual screen compatibility to shut down iiSU conversation when he's picked up the torch for a project we are all interested in, rather than mentioning the work that is Actually Getting Done now.

[left kiln]

Theres a lot of shit being talked about iiSU being a scam but these people will be the first to use it when it comes out 🙄

[jolly wadi]

It’s not a scam. I only gave a $50 deposit and my mothers maiden name

[kind saffron]

I mean if it comes out why wouldn't people use it?

I'll send them money once they actually give something. Lol

[crude tulip]

I would treat Lair Launcher as a different project tbh, just because huesos does actual work, doesn't means the guy who put together the iiSU video had any plan or know-how to make it a reality, yet he still boldly asked for donations without having a single line of code or a programmer on board

[kind saffron]

Yeah. Sorry. You gotta build some community cred before asking people for money

Contribute to an existing CFW or help bug fix something, etc.

Or work with huesos and get him to vouch for you..etc.

[wispy fjord]

Lair Launcher is what we're getting, though, it is the "reality" of iiSU. Listen, I don't disagree that Usagi's side of things is wild and likely a grift of having a vision, making everyone else do the work, and slapping his name on it for profit. Whatever. But I also don't think it should be the focus of the conversation if you don't also mention the good that is going to come out of it.

Because Huesos has joined the project, it is a disservice to write the entire thing off now. It is worth talking about both so interest and any potential funds go in the direction we know will be used for what we want.

[left kiln]

Im talking specifically about those shitting on it rather than showing support for a project that is moving and has recruited devs as well including heusos

[wispy fjord]

Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater is what I'm saying, I guess. Or even if you continue to say you don't trust or want to invest in iiSU, link Huesos's patreon as an alternative.

Something other than just speaking negatively and moving on.

[kind saffron]

I mean I support it. I just don't think people should be paying for it in its current state

And think it's kinda meh to be asking right now

[wispy fjord]

Of Usagi? Yes, definitely.

I don't know what isn't clear about how I'm saying it.

[left kiln]

Thats fair. This is an exciting project that has brought devs together. No one is forcing anyone to donate anything but calling it a scam or whatever is just uncalled for imo

[crude tulip]

the way that Usagi guy operated with this seems pretty scammy, just because others may make part of his video reality at some point, it won't change that

[left kiln]

Agree to disagree then

[wispy fjord]

Cool. Then bypass him and tell people who are excited for it where the real work is being done.

[crude tulip]

and I mean it's totally fair to support huesos, but the whole hype is focused on that video and the donation link below

[kind saffron]

Not saying it's a reality but it gave me taki vibes. 😆

[wispy fjord]

Instead of just going "don't believe Ondore's lies".

[crude tulip]

hey hey, you can't call taki a scammer, he just sat on our money for months and delivered like five screens

[left kiln]

Yeah its a collaboration with Usagi, heusos, other devs and even a guy on the retroachievements side. Its not just heusos or Usagi. Its all of them together bringing this idea to life

[wispy fjord]

I'm trying to understand, though. What is the purpose of calling it a scam, saying it's fair to support Huesos, but not taking the moment to redirect people when it comes up?

[wispy fjord]

Ooh, I didn't know they got someone from RA.

[dark steeple]

My thing is that it's unnecessary to spit vitriol about it claiming it's an obvious horrible scam everywhere

[kind saffron]

Hey. Ive just cautioned that it could be personally

[wispy fjord]

Super cool!! A new api just to make it work, holy cow.

[kind saffron]

Wouldn't be the first time good people were drawn into an over promised product

[left kiln]

Yeah its gathered a lot of support which is awesome

[dark steeple]

It's ambitious and may not pan out exactly as advertised in the end - who knows - but a lot of your distaste seems to stem from the fact that it's b just become popular, which notably wasn't at all directly from their own advertising

[copper path]

worth noting that Huesos already had a working prototype dual screen launcher, LairLauncher, and is just integrating some design elements from iiSU into that existing alpha-state launcher

[celest rune]

Can we just wait some release before said it's a scam?

[dark steeple]

It just picked up what I believe to be far more traction than expected, and in the TWO days we've known about it, has exploded

[kind saffron]

Personally. If it was a team effort. And I was on the team. I'd say, let's release a public beta and then ask people to donate

[wispy fjord]

I mean. I understand the distaste that Usagi isn't really doing any of the work but is reaping the monetary benefits of peoples' hype. If that is the issue, then correct it by showing people the better place to support with mone.

[kind saffron]

Can we wait for a release before being asked for money?

[dark steeple]

Be cautious, be uncertain, because there's every possibility it fails

[left kiln]

I think thats underselling the work of others but yeah heusos will help speed things along for sure

[left kiln]

I guess we shouldn't back anyone on IGG then

[kind saffron]

I'd recommend against most of it yeah. Lol

Wait was that serious

[copper path]

people have been saying that for ages lmao

[dark steeple]

I do think also that it's unfair to discredit Usagi entirely. I know people hate the 'idea man' in a project, but it feels like people are underestimating the level of skill necessary just to pull off such a successful UI

[left kiln]

Double standards 🤷

[kind saffron]

No. Pretty sure my standard is the same for both

Heh

[left kiln]

Yet you still back products on IGG

[kind saffron]

I don't think ayn or ayaneo should be using that platform anymore. But here we are

[wispy fjord]

Graphics design is real work. Definitely. But what he was really showing off what a developed project that he won't be able to deliver on alone.

[dark steeple]

I mean the reality is that the graphical side of this is the biggest draw to most people, and a large reason for the interest. Not anyone can just do that, it takes a lot of effort to come up with something as well designed as the concept is

[left kiln]

Anyway, I'm out for now. The negativity amd vitriol is just unnecessary.

[dark steeple]

I do agree that the video made it out a bit too ambitious on that front for sure

[kind saffron]

Konkr would be my first. And I'm probably cancelling that so

[jolly wadi]

What’s the advantage of them using the IGG platform? Is it cause they doubt a product, and let consumers decide?

[kind saffron]

Almost all my handhelds are second hand. Or from manus website

[kind saffron]

Because they don't have to deliver

[wispy fjord]

Yeah, idk. My point is literally that if you're going to tell someone their hype is unrealistic, do some due diligence and point them in the realistic direction if you know about it. Or I guess it's just easier to say things on the internet.

[kind saffron]

It's literally a zero risk platform

And charge backs are more difficult

Plus advertising

[dark steeple]

Yeah that's all fair, Hueso is putting in good work and making it seem realistic, so definitely worth propping him up

[kind saffron]

I mean even if your a 20 year old company I get why it's tempting

[copper path]

it’s just a way for companies to do preorders without needing to actually deliver within the set time table

there are some legitimate indie projects on KS and IGG but it feels like most of the projects there nowadays are just big companies using the platforms for hype

[jolly wadi]

I currently have both a KS and IGG preorder

🤞

[celest rune]

Do you know when preorder timeline will end ?

For the thor

[wispy fjord]

When they begin real shipment, which is estimated "mid-October"

[jolly wadi]

Are you asking how long do we have to cancel?

[kind saffron]

Yeah. So I tend to avoid them in general

Especially in this hobby where retail is never actually retail, and basically brand new devices can be found on the secondary for seb/eb pricing

[dark steeple]

Probably for preorder pricing

[wispy fjord]

For what it's worth, now that it's quieted, if someone wants to pin this one instead, it would be a kindness. Thank you.

[fluid cloak]

This discussion touches on why i was a bit surprised at the backlash, I'd recognized Usagi's videos when i followed the link and was like "oh cool that graphic design guy"

The concern is 100% valid and i would never intend to shut that down but as far as the early monetization isn't that just like anyone who sets out a tip jar or patreon prior to it making any real value to someone

[wispy fjord]

My personal biggest concern is I believe he said he doesn't really have a plan to, or how to, distribute it to all the contributors.

[fluid cloak]

Yeah that would definitely need to be sorted out

Is that for a beta once something materializes

[wispy fjord]

Thus why I encourage people to contribute to Huesos for now, since he already has provided early releases on Cemu, etc., that shows the money is going toward supporting something more tangible.

As far as "programs" are tangible.

[fluid cloak]

That makes sense

[wispy fjord]

Worst case if iiSU falls through, Lair Launcher will happen. Whether it remains a merged project or not.

[fluid cloak]

To me this errs towards usagi maybe getting overexcited rather than a scam, the channel's other videos seem to me like someone with the visual chops wanting to share that

If it does fall through, crucify me for it tho lol

And yea it'll be nice that lair launcher is still a thing

I like to try out new frontends but i end up coming back to daijisho or es-de usually

[wispy fjord]

Daijisho is my current go-to, ES-DE is too much setup for me.

I'm not changing how I arrange my library, fuck you.

[fluid cloak]

im happy with the folder names except for n3ds

That always throws me off

So im used to it now

[wispy fjord]

It does weird things with subfolders too, though. Didn't feel like figuring it out.

[fluid cloak]

It does get funky but once i had it in place i didnt mind it

Did the uhhh

I forget the name of that SFC extra sound file type thing

but i did that for tokimeki memorial and after a bit of work i got it to launch the game without needing to go into the folder and all that

msu files that's the one

[jaunty hull]

I prefer beacon over daijisho these days.

I feel it mostly does what daijisho does but better.

main difference being daijisho having the console list rather than each tab going directly into the game list.

[celest rune]

Exactly

[copper path]

I’m really hoping Beacon gets a dual-screen update, but also not exactly holding my breath

[little sky]

Agreed

[jaunty hull]

tbh, the thor is like the least concerning device to get pre-order pricing. 10 dollars off everything but the max, and the max being 30. kinda glad theres no fomo pricing on it.

[jaunty hull]

dunno if its needed based on how the TCC will work, essentially running as the 2nd screen functionality anyways. but we will see.

[copper path]

I guess it depends how it all works – I had assumed all the screen-swapping functionality would be part of the launcher, but if it’s something deeper that the launcher then runs on top of, then Beacon/Daijisho/ES-DE/etc. should all be fine

[copper path]

I actually went with the Thor Max upon realizing the price difference between Pro and Max wasn’t much more than a 1TB microSD would cost on its own, and it would get me an extra 4GB of RAM

here’s hoping that wasn’t a bad call

[jaunty hull]

I think its a fine choice personally. like. the regret of spending the extra in the future. is less than the regret of possibly not upgrading b4 launch.

really depends on personal finances.

Ive spent 80 dollars worse b4 lol

[copper path]

yeah, I’m expecting the extra memory to be helpful for PC and Wii U emulation especially

[jaunty hull]

even if the ram doesnt. the storage will be important for PC.

[little sky]

Max is the way to go for sure

[jaunty hull]

since iirc, current PC emulation setups need internal storage.

really cant go wrong with any sku tho.

250 lite is a steal for an 865 device as loaded as it is,
but 50 more for 8g2 is great
and then 50 more for doubled storage and basically guaranteed performance on switch titles that arent software bottlenecked.

[copper path]

yeah, both for PC and for emulator texture packs

[jaunty hull]

exactly.

[celest rune]

Im considering the same. And i m waiting for a review to get all the answer i need to go full gas on it. If the software is good and the hinge will be ok i will consider it like my definitive emulation station

[jaunty hull]

that and I also have plans to possibly use it as a media player too bcz 16:9 clamshell makes it pretty ok for portable movies and shows.

[copper path]

I actually was about to buy the Pro, and then realized that I have yet to regret upgrading memory and storage

[jaunty hull]

so the big storage space is nice.

yeah, I put a terrabyte harddrive in a netbook once. never regretted that lol.

[jaunty hull]

hinge....the problem is, problems dont generally show up in review time ranges. usually months later. but also the price wont change much post pre-order phase so its not bad to wait.

[whole linden]

Done, background, title and slides!

Oh, and dark mode too!

[celest rune]

Oh come ooon

Niiiice

[little sky]

Nice!!!

[copper path]

the good news is the hinge appears to be similar to the revised Flip 2 hinge, so here’s hoping that means it’ll be decently strong

[jaunty hull]

yep ive seen that.

[copper path]

oh hell yeah this is sick

[jaunty hull]

hoping docking functionality is good on it too. lol

[copper path]

also god damn the Pocket DS is huge

[celest rune]

I bought myioo flip. €90, jump to get the dust in a corner

[jaunty hull]

this is a device that kinda lends itself well to being something I can plug in, connect a controller and play..... OR....

[copper path]

I’m not sure if/how they can overcome the issues with Android and handling controller swapping, sadly

[jaunty hull]

Dock and play KB/M PC games.

[copper path]

but other than that I’m hoping docking works well, it’d be nice to have a proper Switch killer (minus Splatoon of course)

[copper path]

oh shit I hadn’t even thought of this, that would absolutely rock

[jaunty hull]

most emulators there are workarounds. just setting up the wireless controller as a second player one controller essentially.

[celest rune]

Yeah you mean it

[jaunty hull]

the two emulators that have issues with this are 3ds/switch.

3ds I wont play docked bcz you really want dual screen use anyways.

[left kiln]

I dont think people grasp how big it is but theyll soon see when people compare the size of it in Thor reviews

[jaunty hull]

Switch is simple to remap and there is script software that can automatically edit the config ini based on whether the console detectsa a connected controller.

[jaunty hull]

its too big. like my spoon

https://tenor.com/view/spoon-is-too-big-gif-696650115047526847

seriosuly tho. I think the n3dsXL size is kinda near perfect.

[celest rune]

I don't think that will be big.
Thor isn't a 3ds...thor is a lot more in a portable dimension

[jaunty hull]

I was thinking about it bcz of a vid where someone tested grim dawn which has semi controller support. but is just a game you should play KB/M. and a lot of older retro PC games are gonna be great on it on the go docked.

[jaunty hull]

thor is literally n3dsxl in dimensions lol.

almost anyways.

[celest rune]

The waiting is killing me

[jaunty hull]

perfect size imho

[copper path]

I’m unsure about (3)DS but Wii U would be awesome docked with the gamepad screen displayed on the system’s main display

[wispy fjord]

Oh this looks crazy cool

[jaunty hull]

that also wouldnt need to use an external controller if you did that. also dunno if the software for docking would work properly to do that but who knows. lol

[copper path]

gonna run starcraft on my handheld but dock it with a keyboard and mouse

[copper path]

I think it’d be highly emulator-dependent, yeah

[celest rune]

What do you mean. Wich joypad

[copper path]

the wii u controller is basically a switch lmao

[jaunty hull]

I dont even know if its that. this is a very weird situation. the docking could be simple and set to mirror the main display only. dont know how the system itself handles docked displays.

[copper path]

it’s a dual-screen home console

a lot of wii u games work fine with just one screen but some only work right with the gamepad

[celest rune]

Ah ok. One display on in the console and tv plugged for the second

[jaunty hull]

but if its possible. that would be cool. main issue is if it cant figure out a way to do that exact setup where you really end up using the handheld docked, but still need to use the consoles bottom screen for wii-u docked output lol

I did a test to see how small it would look on the thor bottom screen

[celest rune]

You need to use the upper display

But yeah will be cool

[jaunty hull]

Or is it just

DS software is just so new. nobody fully knows how it all will work. or not work lol.

wii-u is like the one situation i feel the Retroid DS setup is superior for rn.

[celest rune]

On my 34xx sp is very good. With 3d upscale the graphics is better

No lag

[jaunty hull]

if retroid made an RP Classic flip. I'd instantly buy it lol.

tho that would be a big chonky device lol

[celest rune]

[jaunty hull]

also another reason im so hyped for the thor. using the classic screen is amazing. and Ive used my rpc to test out how bottom screen software even works lol.

[copper path]

yeah agreed, and the Ayaneo just by virtue of being so huge that the letterboxed bottom screen won’t be as big a pain

I think in an ideal world, for Wii U emulation in particular, I’d want the ability to swap the top and bottom displays with a button combo, so if I need to touch the gamepad display it’s not like 1/4 of the actual hardware size

[copper path]

this actually isn’t as bad as I was expecting tbqh

I guess it helps that the Wii U gamepad was 854x480

[jaunty hull]

IIRC that was implemented recently. or is going to be implemented eventually.

basically all dual screen emulators have those options baked in. dunno how best to map it tho on the thor for Wii-u tho.

since the wii-u does use full modern controls. button wise vs DS/3DS

nvm. seems L3/R3 werent a thing on the wii-u gamepad?

so thats prob the answer.

the one upside of the Pocket DS is having extra 2 programmable buttons next to the triggers.

[knotty ether]

Does cemu really run well on the classic? That’s insane.

[jaunty hull]

no its just a screenshot of the wii-u gamepad on the RPC to get an idea of how it would look on the thor bottom screen.

[wispy fjord]

Huesos's info has been added to the iiSU video description

[little sky]

That’s nice

[sacred gust]

What is the difference between "front-end development" and "back-end development" mentioned in above pic when you are talking a frontend/launcher ?

[little sky]

Well they’ve mentioned social features which would require backend development

I also think for logging in retro achievements and stuff you need to set up the login connection which depending on how it’s done could be middleware or backend

[wispy fjord]

Thankfully, people from RA have already directly volunteered to help facilitate any connectivity.

[whole linden]

RA already has a big API and documentation! I am working on that!

[little sky]

Oh yea I totally think it’s doable and I think you’ll figure it out. If I had to guess “front end vs back end “, for a front end launcher, RA integration would be one of my guesses. But for those that get really strict with their terms, adding in RA could be considered middleware.

Anyways!

Thor Thor Thor

🕹️

[whole linden]

Yup! They refer back end purely to the social features

[little sky]

I figured!

[wispy fjord]

Which means all the stuff we care about in here is front-end, lol.

I'm just excited to have something I can treat as a proper Android home menu that also lets me pick games directly instead of needing to go into an emulator first or whatever.

[little sky]

Yea my last android gaming handheld I didn’t like the launcher experience. The default was actually the regular Android home.

[wispy fjord]

I don't mind the Android home, I can arrange it well enough, but something more specific would be nice!

[kind saffron]

Just use beacon or Es-DE. Setup once on SD card and never see stock home again

[little sky]

It’s not super friendly to controller based devices

[little sky]

I had daijisho up before bacon existed it was good

[wispy fjord]

Oh true. I do tend to revert to touch for it.

[little sky]

*beacon

[little sky]

Ok yea so the Ayaneo pocket dmg is the worst fingerprint magnet and it was uncomfortable to me. I did everything I could to not touch the screen

[wispy fjord]

Nah, yeah, I just have an RP5 rn

[little sky]

Im thinking to have a whole new gaming setup because the Thor might be able to fit it perfectly

My steam deck realistically never leaves the house

[paper burrow]

Sounds like Ayn figured out how to get the screens to display different refresh rates on the Thor

[ember sail]

You have to hand it to Ayn, they have really pushed their efforts on the software side in a short amount of time

[nocturne osprey]

they'd better push it with the amount of preorders they've been getting

[wispy fjord]

Yeah, I'd say it's at a priority

[ember sail]

I've got a pre-order for both Pocket DS and a Thor - but after seeing this message I think I'll cancel the Pocket DS

[wispy fjord]

What about this specifically makes the Thor more appealing than the Pocket DS?

[severe kelp]

lol no point of going translucent then

they should've just ignored the haters

[ember sail]

for me, the software experience is still new so I would expect a feedback loop that ends up in OTA updates. Ayn working to address these things for me looks positive in addressing the software experience. Ayaneo's community engagement from my perspective doesn't look quite as good

[wispy fjord]

I think a higher quality plastic translucent is still going to be harder to crack on the hinge than regular quality opaque (but low-quality translucent will be even more brittle) so there's that. but not seeing the inside is really demoralizing, lmao.

[wispy fjord]

That's a valid and good point! Thank you for explaining.

[ember sail]

my pleasure!

[austere parcel]

I really can't get over how much I prefer the thors design over the pocket DS

[little sky]

They nailed it in my opinion

[latent roost]

Good to see Ayn address 120hz + 60hz split

This will make the device useful for PC game streaming where you can stream PC games at 120fps while having a 2nd screen for YouTube, guides etc

I wonder with 3DS emulation you can run games at 120fps while displaying the 2nd screen. Its the top main screen where most of the gameplay takes place

[nocturne osprey]

this looks great!

will be sticking with my purple preorder

[nocturne osprey]

I don't think retro handheld companies outside of the sub 50 dollar market use the old plastic for translucent devices anymore

[little sky]

Unfortunately (although the age of the plastic doesn’t matter as much to me as the quality of it and how translucent it can be)

[nocturne osprey]

fortunately no

the new plastic is the one of higher quality

[little sky]

Nice

[left kiln]

I've just had an update from Nicole that some review units have shipped out today.

[fringe temple]

whoo 😄

[vapid rain]

That genuinely looks worse now.
Almost like if the people who complained have likely never owned a transparent device in their life 🗿

The whole point of going transparent is to see the inside and see the parts and mechanisms LOL

[left kiln]

From Nicole

[gentle notch]

Okay, there's the catch. Guess we'll have to see how noticeable the tearing is in reviews

[latent roost]

Tbis is fine for 3DS Because bottom screen is usually a menu

Tearing in basic inventory and maps isnt a big deal

Even the odd youtube video on bottom screen where you not always focused on tearing shouldn't be a huge deal

Same with text guides

[cosmic narwhal]

depends on how severe it is

[latent roost]

Well they mention for fast moving stuff so I guess it would be obvious on video content on lower screen

But as I said majority of 3DS games the bottom screen is usually a still image

Or if you have a written guide on bottom screen again its a still image

The main worry is YouTube videos on the 2nd screen while playing a game

[nocturne osprey]

genuinely don't get the vitriol being spewed out at people who like the ribbon being covered up

especially the ad hominem attacks of 'hurr these people have never owned a transparent/translucent device in their life!'

[little sky]

You can tell from the latest video that these guys are really using the Thor

The quality of life features shown are really nice

[upper sail]

https://tenor.com/view/archer-mad-sad-angry-gif-7845871402902675473

Why did they ruin it?!

[upper sail]

Literally the point of transparent shells is actually being able to see the insides.

[left kiln]

Independent sound for each screen is amazing. Being able to use 120hz with both screens on is amazing as well. AYN have done amazing work on this software.

[upper sail]

Yeah, it’s about what I expected for the most we’d be able to do. Sucks that they can’t get it working without making the bottom screen potentially worse, but at the very least it’s great that we’d be able to have access to the bottom screen for stuff like performance readings and such while using the top screen.

[upper sail]

You know what? No screw it, I paid for the Translucent purple Thor, so the first second I get mine I’m opening it up to get rid of that trash paper. I ain’t letting mine get ruined by some jerks that literally reject the whole point of transparent shells on devices.

[cosmic narwhal]

if there ever was a first world problem

[upper sail]

I’d definitely agree to calling complaining to a company until they do something a first world problem.

Aka, literally what just happened.

Am I doing the same thing now? Yes. Do I care? No.

[cosmic narwhal]

at least you're self aware

[upper sail]

And as long as we aren’t pretending that the literal only difference the “cover it” side has isn’t that they got what they wanted.

[little sky]

This whole server is a first world problem

I’m all for it btw

[cosmic narwhal]

world war 3 will be fought with transparent hinges, world war 4 will be fought with sticks and stones

[little sky]

Lmaoo

On one side it’s purple transparent on the other side it’s GameCube blue

[fringe temple]

oh noooo

[copper path]

tbf that’s sorta how it is already with the inside

[copper path]

I also am not a fan of this change, it really does defeat the purpose of a transparent device. I feel like they could’ve just put black tape on the ribbon cable and nothing else, if they really wanted to cover up that yellow (I never minded it, but I get that some people do).

[upper sail]

Exactly!

[copper path]

but also like, that change isn’t gonna make me not get the purple, I’ll just be sad to not actually be able to see the innards of the top when it’s closed

[serene goblet]

very cool how the 120/60 split works

might cop this but the only concern for me personally is how comfortable the dpad is

cause if I need a grip to be able to use the dpad without pain like how I needed a grip for my 405M/Razer Edge, then rip

[low lake]

i already prepared romset for mine 😄

now we wait

[vapid rain]

I feel like the point of a transparent shell is to see the insides.
I'll acknowledge that it was a bit over the top for me to say they've never owned any transparent devices. I'm just not sure if half the people that complained about it are even getting the purple to begin with

It's still my favorite color of the 4 even after the change, but it's a bit less exciting to me now

[upper sail]

I’d honestly be way less annoyed by it if they had done it from the start, but as-is they essentially made it worse just to satisfy the complaints of people who may or may not even be getting it.

[gilded pecan]

for real this time? no taksie backsies?

[left kiln]

Yes for real this time 😅

No false alarms I promise

[languid yarrow]

It looks great but looking at the hands, I'm afraid that it will be very difficult to use with DPad games. Probably more than a RP5 which was useable IMO but very moderately comfortable.

[gilded pecan]

thank god someone commented about iiSU I wouldn't have heard about it otherwise

[crude tulip]

time to go and downvote the shit out off that comment

[little sky]

I’d be so upset if it was uncomfortable. Albeit this won’t be seeing more than 30 minutes playtime at a time

[kind saffron]

It is wild how fast they managed to generate an army of faithful fanboys

[left kiln]

And an equal amount of haters

[kind saffron]

Most of the hate seems pretty sensible. Lol

It's not like they hate the content. It's more the lack thereof

Like buggy or weak functionality makes or breaks CFW, and people already claiming it's the second coming, lol

[crude tulip]

I bet over half of the shown stuff can't be realized

like those social features are just impossible to pull off without a fully paid dev team and resources

[kind saffron]

I mean it's crazy ambitious

[icy atlas]

Hey have you seen this—

[crude tulip]

it's cool that huesos gets to polish up his lair launcher with those assets that may look a bit better than what we otherwise may have gotten, but the video is just showing something unrealistic that hadn't had a single line of code written when it was put up... combined with a donation link in the description, the whole thing just stinks fishy as fuck, but oh well, we may or may not get something out of it, yet I doubt any of the hundreds if not thousands people donated will go to the project itself and I hope huesos ain't getting shit if this blows up

[cosmic narwhal]

also it's so lame, do people really want that on their retro devices?

i definitely don't

[little sky]

I want the UI

[woeful estuary]

Got tracking this morning for the review unit

[left kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/yess-yes-gif-25420589

[woeful estuary]

Let's see if good or if bad

[fluid cloak]

Sweet

[icy atlas]

Weird, I haven't gotten mine yet 🤔

[fading anvil]

Can’t wait to see the reviews

[hushed ridge]

Please let us know how easy it is to set both DS screens as the same size

[copper path]

that’s often a problem with design-concept-driven development, yeah

[copper path]

plus there just aren’t going to be enough people running dual screen android handhelds for the social features to be nearly as fun as they were on (3)DS

[jaunty hull]

Reasonable tbh. I'm mainly using bottom screen for guides and music and discord anyways so shouldn't have tearing issues

[copper path]

it was really fun collecting street passes while I was at the mall or uni and getting to see all the people who also had DSes, and there’s no way that experience will be replicated with iiSU

which is a shame because that experience was magical

[copper path]

oh bottom screen for music is an incredible idea

[jaunty hull]

Especially when they mentioned they seem to have a volume mixer solution.

Way easier than messing with each emulator and it's settings to just mute the console audio in the emulator settings every time I play music.

[fringe temple]

that is a nice use for the bottom screen

[jaunty hull]

Yeh messed with Spotify on the RPC to get a feel for it. And it works well lol

Media players should work in general.

[jaunty hull]

Some ppl still do it at cons and events just to see how many others are still doing it lol

[left kiln]

Even having a youtube guide on the bottom would be a possibility and just muting the top screen if theres commentary with it

[copper path]

that’s a really fun idea ngl

[kind saffron]

Yeah. Nintendo really did some interesting stuff. Even if it was weird

Things I wish I could go back in time and try more. Lol

[copper path]

big agree

they still do some interesting stuff, I’m just more aware of their bullshit now, and that taints the neat stuff, sadly

[little sky]

It was showcased on their demos. Here’s to hoping it’s a one tap kinda setting

[kind saffron]

Yeah. It's more in the open. I understand some of the protectionism. But some of it just dumb and not worth the effort

[nocturne osprey]

I don't necessarily feel that way when there's a big ugly orange strip shown due to the shell being transparent

and it was very much over the top including your updated statement, can you not see how easy it is for the other side to make a similar claim when there's almost nothing backing this up lol

[nocturne osprey]

this is perfectly fair though, I'm sorry that the modification made the device look worse for you

[kind saffron]

I'd prefer a transparent clear that shows everything. But that's just me

[nocturne osprey]

I just don't see the rationale behind this tribalistic rage on how the people who asked for the change were plebeians who don't know the 'beauty' of transparent devices and have either never owned one or didn't place an order for the purple Thor in the first place when there's a perfectly reasonable deduction that people asked for the the strip to be covered up because they actually placed an order for the device due to what they saw in the render on the website and were disappointed by the end product

[fluid cloak]

It's part and parcel for retro handhelds discussion but i have noticed a lot more intense negativity lately

Like i said before im never in the shut it down entirely crowd, that'd be irresponsible but i do try to keep it toned down or at least just get it out of my system once and move on

[kind saffron]

World anxiety is probably part of it. I've noticed in other hobby discords as well

[fluid cloak]

I definitely feel that yeah, it can be tough living through all of it honestly

[kind saffron]

It's a lot

[nocturne osprey]

hm I've never looked at my hobbies that way

like I wouldn't be this upset if the purple Thor didn't cover up that ugly strip, I'd just consider changing my order to black or white

[copper path]

I think this is true of a lot of hobby communities

people form strong opinions about ultimately trivial changes or differences

[kind saffron]

Eh. It's def gotten worse

[nocturne osprey]

the Thor still looks great in other colours, I don't need it to have some awesome looking colourway for me to be super happy about it

just need it to run the games I want it to run

[copper path]

I think I’m severely in the minority where I liked the yellow ribbon cable (it’s very similar to the ribbon cable on the Flip 2 actually) because it’s sorta a “look at me! I’m a transparent device!” give away

[nocturne osprey]

you're not in the minority here looking at comments made a few hours ago

[kind saffron]

Originally we just had the pixel perfect truists. Now posts are being bombarded with performance vids and "no your wrong" commentary. Puts people on edge. Lol

[fluid cloak]

All this news stuff is just hitting way too close now, first the tariff scares were getting at me and I dont mean to make it into a sob story because thank goodness she's safe but my mom survived a mass shooting yesterday

[nocturne osprey]

but yeah I'm not here to debate whether the change was good or not, I was just taken aback by the vitriol from people who liked the strip

[copper path]

idk it seems like some people are like “I don’t like the yellow but covering it up is a travesty because transparency is king”

[kind saffron]

Jesus man. I'm sorry. That's rough

[copper path]

oh shit, glad she made it, but that’s awful

[kind saffron]

Well then you got Russia doing flyovers of NATO countries and other, constant reactionary propaganda and yeah. It's tiresome

[copper path]

tbf the world at large has gotten worse, and I think that puts people on edge, which leaks through into every interaction if we’re not careful

[nocturne osprey]

happy that your mum survived, that's a terrible thing to go through though

[fluid cloak]

I appreciate it, i was just in disbelief
And yeah the stuff always feels far away but it becomes hatder to push it out

Yea I've been to the same casino with her many times so when she told me she went on a whim and there was a shooting i was floored

[kind saffron]

When those in power keep pointing at things to hate and blame for inflation and rising costs it def can get under your skin. Maybe to the point where you're just unhappy about minor things

[nocturne osprey]

hm I think it's mostly a Western thing, it was kind of rough from 2020-2024 where I live but things have been going up this year

[copper path]

anyways I think the purple Thor looks great either way, really the only change I’d like is maybe just making the glass on the inside black, because the opaque purple combined with transparent purple is a bit clashy

but even that’s like… meh? I’m using it to game, highly doubt I’m even gonna notice the color of the glass most of the time

[nocturne osprey]

can't speak for Mainland China but the vibe I'm getting is that the country is starting to move away from the property bubble crash/COVID stuff

[kind saffron]

Yeah. In the end these are toys. Personally I wish they'd go even wilder. Lol

[fringe temple]

maybe a case of the world is so interconenected now that antime anything happens everywhere it spreads like wildfire, we notice everything more i guess

[kind saffron]

Give me some classic bright Nintendo vibes. Heh

[fluid cloak]

I want someone to take a stab at the credit card thin handheld space again

New Model S pleaseeee

[nocturne osprey]

the real thing I'm worried about is said people starting a great power war or forcing certain states to develop nukes

[hushed ridge]

Oh man, that would be great. I’ll have to look into it

[fringe temple]

plus covid crash is still coming in for a lotta places and we're only usst seeing it

[kind saffron]

Honestly it's what's got me considering going for the rg DS over this. That think looks super flat

[kind saffron]

Yeah. A lot to put people on edge

[fluid cloak]

It's the biggest factor in pocketable for me yea

[nocturne osprey]

surely it has passed no

[copper path]

honestly same, because the main thing that’s killing pocketability for me is device thickness; even the Miyoo Mini is a bit of a brick, thickness-wise

[fringe temple]

a lot of it is things outside our control, so maybe we can focus on the stuff we can control and what to do, which i know is harder than it sounds 😄

[nocturne osprey]

the city I live in was hit pretty hard from COVID, but 2025 has been a nice recovery year

[kind saffron]

It's a slow process. But we're also pouring gasoline on the flames with trade wars

[nocturne osprey]

tariffs on retro devices is incredibly dumb

[fringe temple]

I have found the thor transparent thing fucking hilarious though 😄

[kind saffron]

Everything got more expensive. So then we made things even more expensive

[copper path]

I mean, covid’s endemic now, so it’s both “over” and never going to be over

[nocturne osprey]

does orange man really think that America even wants to make these things 😭

[copper path]

like complaining about retro handhelds until we force the companies’ hands?

[nocturne osprey]

the profit margin on these is not high enough unless all competitors agree to price their products like Anbernic

[copper path]

[fringe temple]

almost as if millions dying, millions more crippled and massive economic things have long term consequences 😄

[nocturne osprey]

yeah that's fair lmao

[kind saffron]

The people who want it don't want to actually do it. It's pretty crazy

[fluid cloak]

Yup, a more stable and less crashy trimui model S is pretty much my dream for the thinness

only thing that compares is the funkey S or an rg nano and those are the ones i take around the most

[nocturne osprey]

it's just not profitable for any country other than China to produce these goods

[fluid cloak]

Ofc at home is where all the fun powerful stuff is at like this thor will be

[copper path]

trimui running minui was the dream device and everything since has been straying further from the light

[nocturne osprey]

China being capable of producing these goods at such low prices also benefits the world economy

it's not like retro handhelds are some sort of hard necessity

these are cheap luxury goods

[copper path]

literally just give me a trimui with a nearly-bezelless OLED screen filling it vertically and a glass front panel and I would be so happy

the plastic front panel on mine got scratched to hell, as did the metal back panel, which is a shame

[fluid cloak]

Yeah the metal on mine got seriously roughed up over time

but in a way it was nice it could be that rugged

[copper path]

yeah, agreed

just a shame, since I have one of the rare-ish teal ones

I’ve debated using plastic scratch remover made for watches on the front of the screen

[bronze orchid]

I think at this point I’m canceling my Ayaneo pre-order/pledge

A) the Thor looks more appealing to me, and B) I’ll let others be the guinea pig

[kind saffron]

We're all guinea pigs here

But yeah. Buying one of these a couple months after deliveries have started is probably the right move

[teal portal]

What's the quick rundown on iisu lore

[gilded pecan]

HEY GUYS HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT IISU IT LOOKS AWESOME

[kind saffron]

A lot of ui faff with no real backing software, asking for money, some solid devs getting involved, a lot promised, questionable delivery, Nintendo may kill anyway.

One of the devs plans to deliver his launcher regardless of whether iiSU works out. But it might not look like what was promised.

[bronze orchid]

Idk man it does look slick

🤷🏻‍♂️

I didn’t realize there’s hate against it

[kind saffron]

UIs always do

[bronze orchid]

Don’t ban me I use Nova Launcher

[teal portal]

I didn't know people like 3ds tiles

[bronze orchid]

Lmao

[kind saffron]

Well cause it isn't really anything beyond some renders

And asking for money

Less hate and more caution. Heh

[bronze orchid]

3DS tiles in four kay

[teal portal]

why not prototype it in pegasus

[bronze orchid]

iiSU looks neat, I hope they do well, but I’m not gonna donate to vaporware. I wish them well.

[kind saffron]

Seems to be a lot of people running around claiming it's already the best too. Which always makes me hesitate

[bronze orchid]

And yeah, I kinda like 3DS tiles

[kind saffron]

They hit a nostalgia button for sure

[bronze orchid]

I have a good Nova setup going on my handhelds so I don’t have a need to switch

[kind saffron]

I mean I hope it works out. But I'll wait to support until they at least release a beta

[bronze orchid]

And Nova didn’t stop working all of a sudden. If Smart Launcher Pro goes on sale in November I may jump to that.

[copper path]

I’m content with Beacon, I’m just concerned it won’t work so well with dual screens

[kind saffron]

I just always fall back on ES:DE anyway. Or beacon

[copper path]

it’ll really depend how well everything plays together with these dual screen devices, which we’ll only really know once real people have ‘em in-hand

but honestly TCC on bottom screen + Beacon on top would be great for me, so who knows if I’ll even bother with iiSU or LairLauncher or whatever other dual screen launchers pop up

[jolly wadi]

What’s iisu?

[gilded pecan]

https://youtu.be/YNbPxLVS6KI?si=bzDPlT0P7GITgi91

[jolly wadi]

Oh wow never seen that before. Looks great

[sacred gorge]

Oh it's by the guy who made that sick frontend well made video

Pretty excited for this now

[jolly wadi]

Hey have you guys ever heard of iisu? It looks great

https://youtu.be/YNbPxLVS6KI?si=bzDPlT0P7GITgi91

[sacred gorge]

You posted this in the same channel lol

[jolly wadi]

Gotta let the people know

No one’s heard of it yet

[gentle notch]

Wow I've never seen this before, I'm going to tell everyone I know about it

[knotty ether]

Has anyone gotten a sample unit yet?

[jolly wadi]

Seems like they’re on their way out now

[knotty ether]

Cool. Can’t wait to pay the $100 tariff or whatever to DHL

[little sky]

I haven’t even thought about tariffs

My last purchase was before the de minimis

[jolly wadi]

If the 865 wasn’t so weak, I’d just get a rds and skip the Thor. But at least the Thor has 6” oled and the actual design is sleek af

[wispy fjord]

After that software video earlier, I am more and more excited for the Thor

[jolly wadi]

Also it has a nice looking frontend coming out. Not sure if you guys heard of it. It’s called iiSU

[wispy fjord]

I prefer Lair Launcher.

[low lake]

ooh i should want the vid

[sacred gorge]

It's nice to have someone who's good at graphic design (well this style anyway) make a frontend

[gilded pecan]

tell me more about it

[wispy fjord]

Just gonna reply to myself here so people can see it

[wispy fjord]

https://youtu.be/BxWTLHUQ5wU

[jolly wadi]

It looks a little something like this

https://youtu.be/YNbPxLVS6KI?si=bzDPlT0P7GITgi91

[sacred gorge]

Aren't they working together?

[wispy fjord]

That's the joke, yes.

It's been a hot topic lately.

[gilded pecan]

holy shit that's wild

[wispy fjord]

But also Lair Launcher.. exists, lol

[devout forge]

I've been laughing my ass off with all the iiSU youtube links being sent left and right

[teal portal]

send da link

[rocky sinew]

iiSU, never heard of that!!!

[gilded pecan]

which link?

[jolly wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/say-the-line-bart-school-millhouse-classroom-gif-26683141

[crude tulip]

Nintendo be like "iiSue your ass off for making that launcher"

[sand sundial]

are reviewers geting units soon?

[wispy fjord]

Yeah, they were just sent out

[ancient torrent]

The typhoon ate them

[velvet fable]

Hope not

[vapid rain]

I'm more calm now, and in hindsight I don't like having made the point of people "not understanding the appeal of transparent devices" at the time, so you are right on that front, and I apologize for that.
Not an argument I would normally make if I was in a better headstate, but been dealing with a lot in my own personal life.

I was also going off of people having said back when the change was asked for that it was a vocal minority asking for the change, and that AYN shouldn't have listened, but who knows if it really was just a minority?

But yeah, all I'm really saying on the topic and something I wanted to add to while it was fresh in my mind.

Very excited to see the first revivews pop up soon now that units have gone out

[frozen laurel]

This place, Retro Handhelds, has shown me more than anywhere, how vast and different everyone's preferences are & it is fun to observe

[vapid rain]

It really is.
I’m not immune to getting into heated discussions as was clearly shown earlier, but this place has also been amazing for not just rediscovering my love for games and finding a new way to engage in that love, but also actually learning about what my own preferences actually are

Wasn’t sure if I would really like smaller devices or if I was better off getting bigger handhelds like the O2P or a PC handheld, but playing my Switch and not enjoying taking that outside too much, and really loving my Anbernic SP and New 2DS XL made me realize what kind of handhelds I really enjoy

[sacred gorge]

Oh sweet

Hated the ribbon cable showing

[wispy fjord]

Oh

I wanted the orange highlight so bad...

My sticker of this guy would've gone so hard with that pop of orange

[sacred gorge]

Do you mean the eye?

Cause it's the symbol is what I call yellow

[vapid rain]

Preferred the cable showing, but have had plenty of time to think on how it looks now to me and more rationally.
I might wanna see it in a video first, but still think it looks great overall.

Since it might be a secondary device for me meant to replace my aging New 2DS XL, I’m still thinking on if I really wanna splurge on the Pro for just the purple when the SD865 is more than good enough for me, or just get that even if it’ll be in a color I don’t have much interest in.

Much easier if you could just get any color you want for any sku, but AYN has never worked that way and likely will keep locking the cool colors behind Pro and above x3

[little sky]

Memories unlocked

[wispy fjord]

Yes, the eye

[low lake]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-love-and-thunder-hello-look-at-me-gif-25434516

[jaunty hull]

https://youtu.be/BxWTLHUQ5wU?si=-Wdsw_M2yJMENHDL

looking good.

I got my volume mixer. Im happy now lol

[wispy fjord]

It all looks incredible

[jaunty hull]

yeah looks better than I expected it to look in such a short time.

[jolly wadi]

nothing like mass murdering while watching a vacation video. exactly what the thor was made for

[copper path]

oh wtf, I didn't even notice that the Base and Lite models were only available in black, that's so dumb

[vapid rain]

AYN's been doing it that way for a long time now.
Still not a fan

[copper path]

that's so laame

I wanted the Pro or Max model anyways, because I intend for this to be my primary gaming handheld, but that sucks

[jaunty hull]

cost saving but also forces ppl to pay more to get the colours they want.

just be a true chad and go black max tho lol

someone in the ayn discord pointed out that someone at the company made a bit of an oopsie in the video.

[copper path]

oop, what'd they do?

[jaunty hull]

when scrolling thru apps. for a split second theres a logo for a specific site that is black and orange.

[copper path]

I mean, seems like a good use of that nice, big OLED display

[jaunty hull]

if I had a dollar for every time someone said they wanted to use it for that bcz. 2 screens at once lol.

[copper path]

upper screen for porn lower screen for erotica

[jolly wadi]

theyre just being realistic

[tranquil tendon]

Now all we need is that functional keyboard to be added and approved for the bottom screen and we have a pretty damn nice handheld for Russ & Co to hopefully recieve next week!

[wispy fjord]

Honestly, I wouldn't feel like I was missing out too much if the keyboard came with an OTA later.

[errant dome]

yeah its functional at the moment, everything else is a bonus. so please ship mine today, thank you

[frosty vine]

RGC

[wispy fjord]

Ah well, we can at least hope he brings his TechDweeb setup with him

[gilded pecan]

that's some awkward timing to go on vacation exactly when the review unit of what may be the biggest release of the year arrives

[frosty vine]

yaaah 😬

[gilded pecan]

but good news for all other YouTubers

[wispy fjord]

He explained it before that it's a family thing that he had no interest in trying to move

[gilded pecan]

yeah yeah, no shade, he's entitled to his vacations like everybody else

but just saying

[icy atlas]

Weird, I think they forgot to send me my review unit

[scarlet spade]

Everyone needs a good vacation every now and then. I'm happy Russ is taking time off. Guy does more content than any other YouTuber in this sphere.

Japan is a great place to relax and unwind. Can't wait to go back next October too

[errant dome]

I do anything but chill on vacatation

[little sky]

it seems like he didn’t know when it was coming. So makes sense that the vacation was booked already

[errant dome]

Always pack in lots of cities and try to see as much as possible. Always come back exhausted

[gilded pecan]

you haven't vacationed properly if you don't need a vacation after your vacation

[nocturne osprey]

https://c.tenor.com/rQ2QQQ9Wu_MAAAAC/tenor.gif

[little sky]

I did the thing

Put in a pre order for the rainbow

[kind saffron]

Yeah man. Still got mine

Depends on Anbernic deets but it'll be a banger

[little sky]

The anbernic seems to be a pure DS/3DS player

I’m aiming for some light game hub and upscaled 3DS

[nocturne osprey]

don't get your hopes too high for it, people were super excited for the 476H and look what happened

[kind saffron]

True. I know they're gonna overprice it

I still wanna dream tho

[nocturne osprey]

perfectly understandable given how high the entry price is for the Thor

but I feel that it's worth it just to avoid dealing with Anbernic's bullshit

at least even the entry level device can run a fair amount of Switch

[kind saffron]

Oh it's def a DS machine. I have so many DS games I haven't finished tho I don't mind waiting with that and jumping on Thor 2. Or Retroid DS and tackle 3ds then

[kind saffron]

Yeah. I just want pocketable. And Thor will be stretching it

[little sky]

Yea that works

[little sky]

Thor will be backpack for me

In reality when I do have a moment to game with a pocketable device it’s just that, a moment

[kind saffron]

Yeah. Why I need it in a pocket. Heh

[gentle notch]

Woah this is going to be crazy https://youtu.be/YNbPxLVS6KI

[jolly wadi]

Woah what is that?! Is that available right now?!

[gentle notch]

It's coming tomorrow

[scarlet spade]

Is it?

[jolly wadi]

He meant the trailer. He’ll post it again tomorrow.

[zinc latch]

The social portion of it cray. Like idk how you moderate that

[wispy fjord]

If they ever actually do implement it, I almost hope they split the apks or make it impossibly easy to opt out.

Don't want that shit, lmao

[kind saffron]

Jesus. Didn't even think about moderation

Just gonna be rampant swastikas

[zinc latch]

At the very least

[jaunty hull]

gonna be like 2000s 360 voice chat all over again lol

[rose jacinth]

guys im about to blow your mind

so theres this new frontend called iisu right

[vast ibex]

Y'all aren't bored of this yet?

[sand sundial]

I find it somewhat odd but that is nothing new for these upcoming handheld channels, the popular ones always end up strange

[whole linden]

It will!

[hot holly]

Ngl if it isn't censored that's peak

[little sky]

Honestly since there’s not much info out there yet I’m the opposite. Looking forward to updates

[vast ibex]

I mean, the constant posting about the iiSU frontend and pretending it's some new thing in some weird effort to mock it/people that learn about it is just tiring.

[little sky]

Ahh yea ok. I mean it’s the budding joke of the community at the moment I kinda just ignore it

This channel is still producing the most up to date news on the Thor

[vast ibex]

I mean, the last four days have been more dedicated to mocking iiSU than talking about anything the few times I've checked it. Even the Thor video that came out yesterday.

[limber orchid]

Is this real

[crude tulip]

who are we to judge him

[flint pumice]

3:20

https://youtu.be/BxWTLHUQ5wU?si=EQ8ulMszaF_Vjf1z&t=3m20s

[crude tulip]

they should make a Pornhub colored one now

[flint pumice]

You mean like Konkr

[crude tulip]

that's cheese, not orange

[frigid shore]

If they secretly snuck in a PH bookmark icon somewhere in their promos I'd almost think it was genius marketing.

[left kiln]

Everyone is talking about it so it worked 🤣

[fluid cloak]

It's android so... who am i to judge how you use it

[nocturne osprey]

tbf I'm sure that using a dualscreen device for gaming and that has crossed the minds of many gamers...

[low lake]

i mean people made frycup attachment to joycons .... this is way less weird than that

[gilded pecan]

just DS, won't do 3DS very well

[little sky]

Yea they are going to have to put in a beefier processor than what they usually do for most devices. They do have a couple Android base devices that can do gamecube

[hearty charm]

I'm fine with not a strong CPU. I don't need 3ds. Give me cheap portable NDS and I'm in. Most 3ds games came from the NDS with added shit anyway

[crude tulip]

I mean, you could run Pornhub on the DSi back in the day, so why not use the THOR

[flint pumice]

#1385011384307421224

[gilded pecan]

it was not a great experience

i am told

[hearty charm]

Yeah. Didn't need a link. I know it's there. Was responding to someone else

[copper path]

you kid but I'd 100% buy a black Thor with orange buttons

[low lake]

Etsy folk will probab ly sell some

[crude tulip]

nah, orange Thor with black glass and buttons

[fluid cloak]

[low lake]

https://tenor.com/view/i-love-new-york-sister-patterson-pervert-you-creep-creep-gif-12967844

[steady ingot]

Used to be downloading videos playback later on the Vita

... So I hear

[kind saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/wynonna-earp-bobo-del-rey-deviants-degenerates-my-fellow-gif-20365554

[celest rune]

That's why you need 1tb version

[copper path]

gotta have that 1080p@120fps porn

for the immersion

[royal kayak]

When does Retro Game Corps get their vid out on this?

idk when review units got/get sent

[cosmic narwhal]

he said he's going on a trip so unless his unit arrives very early, he won't be making a video until mid october

[sacred gorge]

Yea it's arriving next week for him but he's going on a trip starting on the weekend

[limber orchid]

Is this cheaper than ayn odin 2

[little sky]

Here you go: http://ayntec.com

[cyan verge]

What are the chances of being able to split a game between the 2 screens.

[little sky]

Probably not, even on desktop a program doesn’t really auto-split between two displays

Like if you drag one over to the other

You have situations like the DS emulators where they set up two panels which you can show on the two screens

[cyan verge]

I am thinking pinball and tate style games

[dark steeple]

If you compare the new MAX prices, then the Odin 2 is cheaper by about 30 USD atm (60 compared to the non-preorder price), though notably you can get a refurbished Odin 2 Max for 100 less than new, though I can't speak to the quality

[crude tulip]

only works when the emulator supports it

[whole linden]

Why two when we can have three screens!!!!?

(Testing latency input for melonDS-android in different scenarios)