AYN Thor

[river salmon]

Gacha games, oh no

[dark aurora]

Gachas can be fun, but honestly im way more excited for duet night abyss now that they are ditching the gacha system entirely.

[gentle notch]

Destiny rising actually seemed pretty interesting until I learned it was a gacha

Like just make paid dlcs atp I would rather buy those

[rugged orchid]

But the whales!!

[flint pumice]

The 731xxx could be close to 731999 and your 732xxx have lower digits?

[tame orchid]

a bit late on this but this is the only handheld i have ever pre-ordered, in my entire life, specifically because of the ds and 3ds possibility. i’m not too shocked it’s getting crazy good sales already give how much potential it has for that specifically

there just aren’t any other good options, aside from the ayaneo pocket ds. and the pocket ds is notably more expensive and has less of a 3ds form factor. the thor was built to be a big seller ngl

[ornate dune]

The Thor's gonna rule so hard

[fringe temple]

the potantial is insane 😄 easily the most exciting release this year

[crude tulip]

finally ordered the THOR, now that they said the ODIN 3 will be IGG once again

just the Pro model tho

gotta break my hinge within 1year anyway

[low lake]

souns like thus discord 😄

[crude tulip]

I mean, you can fully expect a THOR 2 in 2027 at the latest

[low lake]

just wait for Thor mini and Thor Portal in 2026

[low lake]

so whats your final decision then?
Pro Thor and max odin 3?

[crude tulip]

idk if I even grab the Odin 3 with their MAX SKU being 16/512 tbh 😅

[low lake]

wait what

[crude tulip]

Nicole just dropped on us that they intend to do 8/128, 12/256, 16/512 on the Odin 3... with a SD 8 Elite... like wtf are those internal storage options

[low lake]

thats weird lol

but well i never really use internal storage anyway 😄

only on RP5 where my GF has tons of gachas

[crude tulip]

I mean, with the 8 Elite as is, it's most suited to Android games and fiddling with Winlator, both things you don't really want to run off a Micro SD card

[low lake]

• i personally find winlator way too fiddly to even bother 😄

ad i am saying that as someone who genreally fiddles 10x more than usual person

[crude tulip]

yeah I just grab my shitty AYANEO SLIDE 😂

that all being said, prices really make the decision here, everything but the MAX SKU is out of question for the Odin 3 IMO

[low lake]

as for thor i went with base ... basiacyll cause "only 50 bucks more not to have another sd865" 😄

[crude tulip]

I strongly considered the MAX, but with the uncertainty of the hinge breaking, a THOR 2 happening anyway and me not really hoarding 1tb of games on any device, PRO is enough

[low lake]

i went with base casue i have it mostly for 3ds/nds and "pokemon romhack machine"

and even the switch pokeymans work fine wih 8gb

[crude tulip]

true true, still have a lil regret on the Odin 2 Mini just being the base model tho

[low lake]

werdl was never really interested in mini 😄

like didnt even gave i proper look whe it was releasing

no clue why

[fringe temple]

im obsessed with pokemon romhacks 😄

[snow palm]

I was the opposite haha, "why spend another 50 to have another sd8 gen 2 device when i probally just only gonna play 3ds games and maybe multitask.

[torpid reef]

what about pokemon spinoffs? 😏

[fringe temple]

they work too 😄

[torpid reef]

dokimon, coromon, monster sanctuary, anode heart

[fringe temple]

i havent tried anode heart yet

[rugged orchid]

She said afterwards that there will also be an 24/1tb option.

[rugged orchid]

I often find Pokémon games boring, but Monster Sanctuary was a lot of fun.

[fringe temple]

damn 😄

I did like monster sanctuary

[snow palm]

I loved pokemon games as a kid, couldnt get much in them as an adult.

I loved monster sanctuary tho, its skill tree and little combos you can make are so satisfiying

[torpid reef]

it's more inspired by digimon world 1 & 3

[fringe temple]

I love siralim ultimate too

[torpid reef]

nexomon is another one

[low lake]

Same

[low lake]

I came with idea of having whole pokemons on t so witch ended up being g requirement too

Plus I already have e RP5/mini and and RDA on the way so it would be another one

[hot holly]

I wonder did anyone make a romhack of Oras to be a closer 1:1 of Emerald

[low lake]

as for odin:
.... i wll have my cheap O2Portal Pro from a trucker friend tomorrow (if he int stopped by german cops)
... for Odin3 i will wait it out for now .... to see how the compatibility situation of 8 Elite develops by the time they do O3 Portal

[river salmon]

"I'm way more excited for the version without the gacha mechanic"

I don't care how fun the games are, they are fundamentally a PoS, each and every one, because of gacha

[dark aurora]

Well congrats this one isn't

[river salmon]

For sure

Why are they almost always anime style too 😭

[cosmic narwhal]

who'd want to collect 3dpd

[flint pumice]

Still holding but I will probably preorder a Thor. Hope to see more real photos and then first impressions by the end of the month

[left kiln]

Nicole has said we'll probably get more next week

[kind saffron]

That's tight. Def wanna see

C'mon hinge. Still my only fear

[ornate dune]

I don't think we'll know how good the hinge is until at least 3 months after people start getting their Thors

[honest slate]

Given the volume, the community fear and the 1 year warranty they probably have some plan for bad hinges

[kind saffron]

Hoping they were just like, hey, Retroid, who is us but isn't. How should we fix this

[loud forge]

Is it ever good?

[nocturne osprey]

got the pro

[loud forge]

Well, outside of GPD

[kind saffron]

Basically if the handheld maker also makes laptops your probably gonna get a solid hinge

[low lake]

Gpd learned there lesson after the horror of win2 hi ge

[loud forge]

It's just disheartening seeing multiple devices fizzle out due to poo-tier hinges

[gilded pecan]

and the gpd xd

I still keep my broken hinge but totally functional gpd xd+ in my drawer of shame

I'd like to think I'll DYI fix it some day mac gyver style

[fringe temple]

both of my XDs still work well enough 😄 was thinking of putting lineage on my xd plus

[wispy fjord]

No, 3DS Pokémon romhacking isn't that mature

[hot holly]

Ah, that's a bummer, I never looked into it tbh, was thinking it might have more stuff after so long

What's Nds romhacking like? Like Blk/Wht 1&2?

[vast ibex]

Not much different lol

[hot holly]

Damn, wth

[vast ibex]

Most of the rom hacking community is sticking with Gen 3

[wispy fjord]

BDSP is an outlier adn should not have been counted

(It's made in Unity.)

[low lake]

you can do moemons

[vast ibex]

Even then, it's not like BDSP's modding scene is that dramatically different than Gen 4+

[hot holly]

At least there's that one guy rebuilding platinum in gen 5

[vast ibex]

For reasons

[hot holly]

He'll probably be done by

2028

Maybe

Lol

[wispy fjord]

I mean. I'm one of the people making ReIlluminated so it'll get there.

It's just an issue that everything has to be done the long way rn.

[vast ibex]

I'm unusual in that I don't count stuff until it actually comes out.

[low lake]

i think for 3ds one you can only really get the "nuzlocking hacks" like Ancestral X

[vast ibex]

Rebalance mods basically.

[wispy fjord]

That's fair enough. I'm thinking in matters of potential/what can be done, not things that are available.

[low lake]

or the dreyano-style vanila++ hack like Wilting Y or Nova Sun

same for NDS

but NDS at least has Moemons

[wispy fjord]

Can't wait to see if someone tries to rally the troops to make a 3D version someday lmao

[low lake]

and yes there is vapoeron too
|| Hey guys, did you know that in terms of…” ||

[left kiln]

Have they redrawn all the pokemon like this 😅

[vast ibex]

Yes

Multiple times

Moemon is old

[left kiln]

Thats some commitment lol

[snow palm]

It been out since i was atleast in highschool

And that was like late 00s

[left kiln]

Im not really up on the pokemon rom hack scene

[low lake]

they still do more and more 😄

[latent roost]

Ive noticed on the Thor the triggers dont seem to flair out as much as the Flip 2. And its also flat all the way until the triggers, while Flip 2 the triggers flair out more, and its not flat it basically has a slope design making only the bottom end the thinnest then gradually go thicker

This may surprisingly feel more picketable than the Flip 2

[low reef]

what's the difference between the two chipsets here with respect to emulating power?

[ancient torrent]

Id watch videos about devices that have them to get a good idea.

There are many

[icy atlas]

865 is GCN/Wii/PS2 with some Wii U and Switch on the lighter end. Light winlator also

8g2 is a lot of Switch and good amount of Wii U, and a little bit more winlator

If you're just looking for 3ds and similar, Lite is all you'll need

The 8gen2 isn't doing anything extra for 3DS

[low lake]

but its just 50 buck more to be able to do whole pokemon series on sinle device

[low reef]

I'm not sure if this one is really in my "need" pile as I have my Retroid Flip 2.

[hybrid mulch]

This whole discord channel would collapse if everybody sticks to "need" pile

[low reef]

i know

😛

[round quest]

I totally respect not supporting a gacha game, but it is shocking how fair the gacha mechanic is compared to other games. 60 pulls for guaranteed character, no 50/50, no weapon gacha. Your progress comes from playing the game and not from unlocking characters

[loud forge]

I buy game and play game

[crude tulip]

We are always in need of shiny new toys

[olive mortar]

I believe you.

But the sentence "60 pulls for guaranteed character" sounds absolutely insane for anyone who stays clear from those games (like myself).

[round quest]

It also sounds crazy to people who do play those games. For example, Hoyoverse games are considered to be very generous, but will only give you a guarenteed 50% chance to get a limited character every 90 pulls, and the character's weapon will take 80 pulls for a 75% chance to get it. The fact that D:R guarantees a character and has no weapon gacha means all your pulls are likely going to get you what you are going for, as long as you are smart with your resources

[hybrid mulch]

What is guaranteed 50% chance? Is it guaranteed or not 🤔

[round quest]

Before the guarenteed 50%, you have a very small chance to get the featured character

It is guarenteed because if you do not get the featured S rank character, you get a different one instead. It's 50% for the featured

Yes it is totally scummy

[olive mortar]

And this is what some people do for fun.

I prefer spending my energy and money on new devices that play games I could already be playing on devices I already own.

That's much more fulfilling...

[round quest]

You're acting like the game isn't fun or fulfilling though, which it is

[sacred gorge]

Yeah, the gachas still need to be fun for people to get invested

[olive mortar]

The game's fun, I've tried it myself. No argument here.

But dealing with gacha rates, all those pity systems and ludicrous pulling mechanics? That's what I mean. I'm good over here, not engaging with any of that stuff.

[frozen laurel]

Some people enjoy grinding, some don't

[mighty obsidian]

I'm curious about the Thor. Right now I have a Brick, plus Vita, New 3DS, and Switch. I use my brick daily and the others occasionally (mostly due to convenience if it being in my bag all the time). How well could Thor replace Vita and 3DS? Switch emulation is still pretty early, right?

It would be nice to be able to play PS2 and Gamecube while downsizing my collection a bit.

[round quest]

Vita emulation is too young, unfortunately. In a few years the Thor will be great for it. I think 3DS will be great on it though

[mighty obsidian]

My Vita is 90% PSP games, plus Wipeout 2048/indie games for Vita.

Good to know, though.

[round quest]

I think that PSP games look bad on Vita, so you're about to get a huge update

Especially among your devices, you don't have anything that is 16:9 or higher end so the Thor will fit great there

[mighty obsidian]

Switch is, but I heard that PSP emulation is mediocre on it.

I have a launch Switch too, I've just never hacked it.

[torpid reef]

a trick to fix how ugly PSP games look by default on vita is to turn off bilinear filtering

[mighty obsidian]

What's the issue with PSP on Vita? I always thought they looked fine, but I have nothing to compare it to.

Isn't the Vita screen a perfect 2X resolution of PSP?

[torpid reef]

yup

[round quest]

It is a 2x integer scale but blows up the small PSP screen onto the PS VIta one

[mighty obsidian]

Huh, I'll have to look into it.

[torpid reef]

yeah bilinear filtering makes PSP look like a gross blurry mess on vita

but if you turn it off, it looks great

[mighty obsidian]

Honestly, I used to think DS games looked fine on 3DS, until I played them on the Brick. They are stunningly sharp there.

[round quest]

I've turned off bilinear filtering, it just is a low PPI. I think PSP games look better on the original screens

And they look best upscaled haha

[torpid reef]

that makes sense

[mighty obsidian]

Well, it sounds like Thor will be good for PSP and 3DS, which is pretty rad.

I've heard it can do some PS3, which I know is still very spotty. Is it worth getting Pro or Max in the hopes that emulation catches up?

[round quest]

It's up to you! Max is overkill. Pro will be future proofed, but you should get what you want for right now. If you can afford the extra $50 for the Pro then I think it is worth it

The difficult thing about future-proofing with these devices is that new ones come out all the time. I bought the Odin 2 Portal Base and I am glad I did because I am getting the Thor now and probably going to sell my Portal

[mighty obsidian]

Yeah, if I sell my 3DS and Vita then an extra $50 will be easy to swing.

[round quest]

Oh wow, you're looking to sell them? For sure you'll get your money's worth. I don't think I could commit to selling my corpo consoles so good on you

[mighty obsidian]

I don't buy a lot of devices these days. I got brick in December, and I'm probably going to wait until next year for the Thor so I can read early impressions and see how the hinge holds up.

[mighty obsidian]

Yeah, I'm mostly trying to downsize.

[nocturne sedge]

Its pretty good under android, I just hacked my Lite a couple of weeks ago. Even lighter Gamecube and PS2 games are playable

[mighty obsidian]

Haha, which is funny considering the collections some people have. But I really want to have a small footprint. The big appeal of the Thor for me is that it would let me play more games while having fewer devices overall.

[mighty obsidian]

I've been debating hacking it. I hacked 3DS and Vita, but Switch seems more intimidating. You need to like short out the controller port. It's probably no big deal but it makes me nervous.

[errant dome]

hadnt used my legion go in awhile. since the last time i used it ive bought a classic, portal, and an oled pc monitor. using the legion go even at 144hz now... i can see ghosting. when i had a mix of devices i didnt see it as much. oled has ruined me. good thing i went thor over pocket ds

[nocturne sedge]

I will tell you this, it was definetly worth it but I didnt enjoy be micro soldering.

If you have V1 its easy indeed I had to solder in picofly, but its definetly worth it

[mighty obsidian]

It is funny how terrible systems look once you get used to newer ones. Like, I used to play an original non-backlit Game Boy back in the day. I have no idea how I did it.

[nocturne sedge]

Btw 3ds games also work well on Azahar

[mighty obsidian]

Yeah, I checked the serial and it is one of the early/easy to hack ones.

[mighty obsidian]

3DS on Switch? Huh.

[nocturne sedge]

Yup, some games need to build shaders and you have stutters when they are doing it but it works really well now on Android using Azahar

[river salmon]

Why can't they do what Cemu does and have all the shaders compile on start-up of the game

[nocturne sedge]

Even Pokemon Ultra Sun runs well with 2x res

[errant dome]

yep i remember those days. i remember also being a day 1 gba purchaser and thinking how much it improved XD

[icy atlas]

gacha games aren't fun or fulfilling

if you think they are you require mental help that i cannot give

[gentle notch]

Play Dark Souls 3

[river salmon]

Gacha games fall into the one-game-Andy category which usually results in gamer atrophy

See:

WoW
Genshin
Overwatch
Etc.

[jolly dune]

Worm light with 30,000 AA batteries or planting your ass in the livingroom so you'd be at the perfect angle for a table lamp to light up your game.

[errant dome]

who's andy

[kind saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-oh-snap-oh-shit-chris-pratt-parks-and-rec-gif-5703806

[wispy fjord]

A $5 jig from Amazon or Etsy or whatnot will reduce all chance of messing up.

Meanwhile when I first hacked my Switch, I used tin foil on my joycon rail lmao

[hot holly]

Anything new we know about the Thor since the spec drop really?

Closest thing I can think of is I figured out it's compatible with Retroid's docking station(off-centre though)

[torpid canyon]

I think they‘ll upload some videos next week

And it 2 weeks review units will be sent out

There really isn’t much new info ayn could share besides what they already did

[wet edge]

maybe a silly question but do we know if both screens are touchscreens?

[hot holly]

It says in the product page, it specifies
"Full HD 6" AMOLED Touch Screen"
And then
"3.92" AMOLED Touch Display (Bottom Screen)"

Although I don't think the top screen really needed to be a touch screen, but I'm not complaining

[torpid canyon]

Yes, Nicole explicitly said so

[wet edge]

Thanks I must've missed that.

the top probably didn't need to be but it gives me ideas for apps that could be used holding it like a book a la Brain Age

[mighty obsidian]

Some Switch games can be touch controlled.

Sorry for the ping.

[wet edge]

I wonder if another company could make a value handheld where one display isn't a touchscreen, or if most screens on the market this size are just touchscreen anyway

[icy atlas]

android particularly specifies the main screen should probably be a touch screen

[mighty obsidian]

Right, a lot of Android stuff too.

[errant dome]

Finding a 6 inch OLED without touch is probably harder than finding one with it

And android+android games would suffer so much why would you purposely gimp your release for a market that likely doesn't exist

[wet edge]

Going after the boomin Wii U market. Touchscreen gamepad on the bottom, big display on the top.

idk this is why I'm not making handhelds for a living

[fluid cloak]

something to note for your psp playing is lots of games look awesome upscaled but some types of UI will never look good even with maxed out texture setting

just one of those unfortunate things about emulating

[wispy fjord]

Probably why PSP has a lot of texture packs for its games.

Definitely worth checking for packs on any games you're interested in.

The Fate/Extra and CCC ones are gorgeous.

My only gripe is that one of the most prolific texture pack makers often seems to get everything done but the text/UI if it gives any form of trouble, lol.

[fluid cloak]

Thanks for the heads up on the CCC one

I'll definitely wanna grab that

[wispy fjord]

You'll want this one that's further down the thread specifically: https://forums.ppsspp.org/showthread.php?tid=29826&pid=148245#pid148245

[nocturne osprey]

@hot holly we're unfortunately closer to having mature BDSP ROM hacking than 3DS

it being made in Unity is a cheat code for modders

[wispy fjord]

Correct.

[nocturne osprey]

HGSS is the most moddable ROM out of the NDS games because of hg-engine (basically a code injection tool)

[nocturne osprey]

it's actually not easy to edit Moemon into the gen 5 games because of how the narc files are structured lol

[sacred gorge]

HGSS Generations is a cool new hack

Finally a DS rom hack that adds Pokemon from later gens and even megas

[nocturne osprey]

are you guys accepting volunteers for balancing/battle design?

[wispy fjord]

You can apply, but we have a pretty full team and most of the fights are designed now. Just need tweaking and internal playtesting once the build is stable.

[nocturne osprey]

do you mind pointing me where I could apply?

[wispy fjord]

This should work since we're both in the other server: https://discord.com/channels/912508046159261728/998057090981580811

[nocturne osprey]

oh I already sent an application through that form last year

[wispy fjord]

Ahhh, then I'm sorry. I'm not the one who does balance applications.

[nocturne osprey]

it's fine! thank you for helping

[wispy fjord]

[river salmon]

My conspiracy theory about grips is holding true for all the premium brands

They make devices with bad ergos on purpose nowadays to sell you on the grip that has 0 resell value.

[sacred gust]

Is that for the o3? If yes, how is it bad ergos? Unless you prefer a flat back?

[gentle notch]

Exactly, like just make the device flat at that point if you're going to sell an official grip anyway

[river salmon]

The o3 itself is fairly flat like the odin portal from what I can tell

The original odin 2 has great ergos

[sacred gust]

O3 looks the same as o2 if not slightly even more pronounced grips to me 👀

[river salmon]

Hmm maybe.

[upper sail]

Yeah, that way you can have it be pocketable when you don’t want the added bulk of the grip.

[wispy fjord]

Thor supremacy, eh

[vast ibex]

It's still amusing to me that after the Flip 2 came out I was super tempted by it, but didn't want to lose the power of my Odin 2 Mini.

"If Ayn makes an Odin 2 Flip, I'll defintiely get one". Ayn then one ups me and makes an Odin 2 DS.

[low lake]

Inever did easy ... but worked nicely

[nocturne osprey]

do you have any tools to open alternate sprite narcs?

it's something that I never figured out when I was really into narc editing a few years ago

[low lake]

Just that I already have my Black 1+2 roos modified with the help of meomon discord folk

[nocturne osprey]

LOL

fair lmao

[low lake]

Although will probably play some QoL vanilla+ romhack of B/W before doing moemons for B2/W2 as it's a gen i have zero idea about do might not be better start it with moemons as I do t have the knowledge of the base pokemon from gen5

[pure ermine]

I'm just looking forward to sacred gold and storm silver

[low lake]

is that the drayano gen2 remake?

[river salmon]

That's fair too

[errant dome]

That's my preference too. I like the grip so I can use it most of the time but slim down the device a lot when I travel. I'm ok sacrificing comfort there to make it as small a footprint as possible on a carry on

Or a pocket (I doubt this will be pocketable)

[hot holly]

No prob 👍, can the 8 Gen 2 run many games at 1080p though?

I thought it was better suited to run them stable in handheld mode/720p

[left kiln]

Nah it can run a lot in docked mode just fine

[sacred gust]

Just that docked mode doesn't usually mean 1080p for switch games, at least the 3D ones.

The first party stuff do tend to stick to it better (except stuff like Xenoblade game and some of the fire emblem).

[latent roost]

I prefer this. This way they target 2 types of buyers. People who want to pocket the device. And people who want comfort. I wish RP Mini V2 didnt have ergo grips but a separate grip to buy

I think the dual screen capability for this device is more exciting for things outside DS and 3DS emulation. I can imagine streaming Spiderman 2 from my PS5 doing side missions on 1 screen while the bottom screen is playing a long youtube podcast video.

[olive mortar]

I hear you. But I prefer that over the PS Portal or that "interesting-looking" Xbox handheld.

[mighty obsidian]

I don’t have an android device yet and I wasn’t planning to get one, but Thor seems so capable for the price that it’s hard to resist. N64, Dreamcast, Gamecube, PS2, Wii, DS, 3DS, PSP all running very well, plus Android games and whatever windows stuff it can run for like $300-400. It’s a very convenient way to plug a big hole in my current game library, replaces some of my current devices, plus it actually looks nice. I just want feedback on ergonomics and hinge quality before buying.

Here’s my current setup (the Vita is 99% PSP games, plus Wipeout 2048). If I could slim it down to just Thor & Brick, that would be great. It doesn’t sound like Switch emulation is there yet though.

[hard heath]

Great collection! Thor is the best all-rounder, and you probably don’t need the Brick too since Thor's bottom screen is bigger and better at 4:3 (3.7" vs 3.2")

[mighty obsidian]

True! Though I like the pocketability. Something to consider though.

[left kiln]

You'll be surprised at just how much switch you can play on the 8g2

[devout forge]

based collection

everything seems to roughly cover for eachother

3ds for 3ds and ds, switch for switch, ps vita for ps vita and psp, trimui smart brick for everything else

there are no useless outliars

[mighty obsidian]

Wow, if I could get everything on one device though… I hadn’t even really considered that.

[mighty obsidian]

I am utilitarian. Haha.

[fringe temple]

nice setup 🙂

[mighty obsidian]

Thank you!

[flint pumice]

Yeah if this turns out to be real, that's 15-20 times higher than Ayaneo Pocket DS

[amber pivot]

Yeah but can it handle first-party games like a modded OC Switch tho?

[gentle notch]

Probably not through switch emulation but I bet they play better in winlator

[gilded pecan]

lmao, just learned now that this exists, this is... something

[gilded pecan]

not really because while it may not have the slope design of the flip 2, it's also overall thicker than the flip 2, so my take is that it'll come out as more or less the same; you gain some by not having a slope design but you lose some by it being thicker still

[gilded pecan]

nah order numbers on the website are not representative of the actual amount of orders, they are sequential but intentionally obfuscated

[gentle notch]

It's also 80 grams heavier than the flip 2, that might make it too heavy for some people

Not for me though

[vast ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/sponge-bob-square-pants-work-out-muscles-flex-nickelodeon-gif-3580600

[snow palm]

I mean lighter is always better

Its still lighter than alot of modern handhelds tho which is nice.

[vast ibex]

Depends imo. Too light and it starts to feel cheap. Like it's just made from plastic and air.

It's a problem I frequently had with controllers as a teen.

[snow palm]

i mean ye i understand the sentiment too, like some companies even but in extra weight into products just so it ''feels'' more premium

[vast ibex]

A ratio/spectrum that's different between peeps

[sacred gorge]

Yea I really dislike light devices

I rather a handheld have some heft than feel terrible from being too light

[mighty obsidian]

I'm trying to conceptualize the size/weight using systems I have. It's slightly less wide than a New 3DS XL, but almost as heavy as a Switch. I think the main issue will be how the weight is distributed. The top screen looks pretty thin, and if most of the weight is in the body it should be pretty comfortable to hold.

[vast ibex]

Glass front bottom half adding so much weight

[gentle notch]

This is borderline incomprehensible

[flint pumice]

It contains nicknames of the key people in the industry which is confusing after translation lol

Tail is Arthur

Not sure who wood worker / carpenter is. Maybe a YouTuber (or should I say Billibillier)

Ok I read the original thread on Baidu forum. Carpenter is from KTR

Pigeon god means someone who always bail on someone (meaning KTR always have long delay?)

I won't be surprised if Thor gets delayed because so far we haven't seen many real life photos or demo videos

[fringe temple]

and it's prob their most complex project so far

[flint pumice]

They probably rushed the announcement to catch the potential sales away from Pocket DS

[low lake]

[flint pumice]

If Thor gets delayed so will Odin 3. It will probably ship in December

[left kiln]

Coming next week

[icy atlas]

$10 discount for delay

come to papa

[loud forge]

That's a fat price to test a hinge from a company that hasn't done hinges before

[left kiln]

You need to provide some background and context to this

[flint pumice]

It was someone posted a quick update from qq groups of each of the companies: Ayn, Ayaneo, Anbernic

[loud forge]

And they work with... Wood?

[flint pumice]

Ayn said they will announce pricing of Odin 3 tomorrow and preorder start next week

[loud forge]

$700

[flint pumice]

Arthur from Ayaneo said they have decided the prices of Konkr Pocket Fit long time ago, just waiting for Odin 3 pricing and respond accordingly

[left kiln]

It has zero validity imo. Some random comment on a forum isnt credible

[flint pumice]

There are screenshots

But yeah

[left kiln]

Screenshots from users that we dont know who they are or what their background is. I could post anything online but it doesnt mean its true. I want receipts

[torpid canyon]

This turned out to be true and we got a blue Odin 3

[left kiln]

Exactly 🤣 it seems like fear mongering but people are going to run with it

[nocturne osprey]

Lumi team said that they've finished all rebalancing/fight tasks

[flint pumice]

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/10009022468# Original post here if you want to see it. But yeah there are a lot of made up screenshots floating around, especially of Max Zhou, so it's hard to know what is true.

[wispy fjord]

Awww, I'm sorry. I hope you'll enjoy them when they're done, tho!

[nocturne osprey]

I definitely will!

[gilded pecan]

no photos/videos/info for 3 days -> "must be delayed"

y'all need to relax lol

[hybrid mulch]

The post seems to be that the KTR guy predicts Thor will get a delay and people joke that it must be true because he has the most first hand experience with delays (from KTR1). Then Google translate makes all the trolling look very legit.

[kind saffron]

I mean whatever if there's delays. Nothing will come close to this anytime soon imo

[red cairn]

Yeah at some point you have to figure out what you actually want lol. Like if you want a faster thor then don't buy the thor. Or just accept selling it later

Only windows emulation on gamehub. Which is sketchy and weird

[low reef]

Yeah.. I guess I could swing this on the pro... >_<

[tidal peak]

isn't the KTR guy talking shit about ayn's odin, how ktr1 will piss all over it and how everybody will forget about odin, and then he was the one that delayed a lot and got forgotten already?

[gilded pecan]

yup, that's the guy, good times

[left kiln]

Yeah this was the quote but obviously it said Odin and not the Retroid logo lol. I cant find the original

[gilded pecan]

ktr1 was hot for all 5 minutes lol

then Russ got one and he was like "eh, it's not a big deal"

and with that the ktr1 hype was dead

[left kiln]

Oh they really weren't happy with that 😅

[elder wing]

The KTR1 was hype for like

5 second

Until everyone realized that the Odin and Retroid were just

Available and overall better

[river salmon]

I just looked it up. It looks like poopoo

[fluid cloak]

yeah this looks fantastic, i appreciate it

i checked for another one and got it installed, 7th dragon 2020-II

it works but now im worried it's causing a crash

but even with it turned off it crashes now so it may have been an issue with the game itself i never noticed

[wispy fjord]

You're welcome! There's a guide on gamefaqs too if you need, lol

[fluid cloak]

Oh i played Extra through with nero way back in the day i can hopefully manage lolol

[torpid canyon]

Goated game

And people say the psp library is overrated

[fluid cloak]

i really liked 7th dragon 2020 a lot

Looking forward to playing II more

[torpid canyon]

For sure, also gotta try out the new classes

[low reef]

So I'm mainly using a Retroid Pocket Flip 2 for PS2 emulation, does the Thor Pro level handle that just as well or am I holding onto that as well or am I continuing to use the Flip 2?

[blissful widget]

FYI, when my flip2 cracked I got a bit salty about a design flaw in it. I got more salty when the Thor renders had the same flaw. Anyways, somebody in the flip2 channel just got one from Retroid with the flaw fixed, so that bodes really well for the Thor hinge.

[torpid reef]

Thor Lite is literally an RP Flip 2 with a bigger top display + a second screen. Anything above that will thrash the Flip 2 performance wise.

[low reef]

Ok. That answers that. I guess this is probably an order 😉

I think the base is probably as far as I need to go then as I can toss in a micro sd card for the rest of the storage needs.

now the question is what color set do I want...

I think I'm tossing up between Rainbow and purple

[lilac cobalt]

if you want the base you can only get black

[low reef]

sigh. Well. black it is then 😉

[lilac cobalt]

you have to get the pro for color choices

the sd 8 gen 2 (base, not lite) will run circles around the flip2

[low reef]

maybe I should just splurge for the pro to potentially future proof for eventual ps3 emulation

[kind saffron]

Yeah. Fingers crossed they talk to the guy across the hall

[kind saffron]

Yeah. Honestly it'll be more of a do everything machine. It's hard to know how it's PS3 performance will be until in hand

PS3 emulation in general has ups and downs right now

One assumes that once it's unlocked the 8gen2 will be a solid chipset for it tho

[torpid reef]

I'm honestly just stoked to be able to play a game on the top screen with a gamefaq guide on bottom 💀

also very excited to see the development of winlator and gamehub

[frigid shore]

With how active Nicole seems to be in looking at and responding to people, surely someone has mentioned it right?
...right?

[fluid cloak]

it's more handy than i'd think at first

taking me away from the distractions of pc browser tab on the side when i'd normally be checking stuff like that

[frigid shore]

I've been shilling real hard about the multitask benefits of a second screen ever since I got a Surface Duo, ahaha.

It's suuuper handy.

[sacred gorge]

I'm just going to assume that AYN will put in better materials just because of the AYN name.

[fluid cloak]

not quite the same but i do it with the multi window on samsung tablet and it's got some crazy utility

just gotta find your own niches for yourself

[hybrid mulch]

I read that some people report less latency streaming with sd865 than with 8gen2. Is it real?

[kind saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/for-real-seriously-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-we-gon-find-you-gif-4390189

[torpid canyon]

While the triggers look identical, they have different hinges

[blissful widget]

same flaw in the renderings though, but I'm betting they fix it now.

[torpid canyon]

What flaw are we talking about

[blissful widget]

#1362202261400457496 message

[torpid canyon]

Oh I see, we need to see how the Thor hinge looks when the lid is closed

[blissful widget]

from their announcement video

[torpid canyon]

Is that rounded or sharp

I can’t tell

[blissful widget]

that's sharp to my eyes, but I'm certain they will round it in production if they've already fixed rpflip2

[torpid canyon]

I heard they’ll upload demos on their yt channel next week

Hoping they’ll shot the hinge and not just the front

[blissful widget]

hope so, but even if they've already finished production they'll redo the screen panel because they know about this flaw now and they wouldn't dare risk shipping flawed panels.

but I doubt they've finished production

I was suuper skeptical they'd sort this out and I was railing against them when I saw it above, but the flip2 fixing it this fast has made me much more optimistic

Here's a lengthy rant of mine explaining exactly how they fucked up (but now they've fixed it):
#1362202261400457496 message

[royal kayak]

IDEK how thor looks so good specs wise while being that cheap. Duel oled screens top is 120 hz?

[icy atlas]

the line between ayn and retroid blurs by the day

[low reef]

now the real question. which shipping to use these days. do I go with the standard or do I go with DHL.

[wispy fjord]

AYN has been saying they have agreements with DHL to deal with the tariffs thing, so just go with what gets it to you quicker, I'd say

[vast ibex]

I forgot my Digiroot stylus got here yesterday. I just mess around with Kirby Canvas Curse and it seems pretty decent.

Of course it's competing with my Odin 2 Mini's pretty thick glass screen protector. So on the Thor which I don't think I'm gonna get a screen protector for it should work just fine.

[ancient torrent]

I want to buy this but for once I see all the hinge issues from companies and I don't want to deal with that lol. I'll probably wait 6 months or so.

But damn this one is sweet 🙂

[river salmon]

Yeah it looks slick

Hinges and gloss finishes spooky

Maybe they will also have a matte edition at some point

[analog forge]

How confident are we feeling in the software to handle bottom screen

[sacred gust]

At worst, games/emulators that support it should still work

Sure to have early adopter issues

[nocturne osprey]

I'm mainly using the second screen for NDS/3DS games anyways so I don't mind it having issues with anything else

just work for those games and it'll be a fantastic little device for me

obviously do hope that the hinge and screens hold up lol

[ancient torrent]

There have been a bunch of updates to emulators recently so that should help but it depends on their android build as well for some stuff.

Android didn't have much development for two screens until recently with some of these companies tackling it.

Would be nice for the android team to see the need and start working it. I know that Google is stopping chrome OS and moving fully to Android for Chromebooks so maybe they will soon?

I'm not sure if ChromeOS even had much support for it though.

[hushed ridge]

What are the odds of Retroid announcing a Flip 3 with 1280x960 bottom screen before Thor launches?

[remote moon]

0

[last pond]

I mean, the mortgage screen would pay off big time then

Better yet, imagine a DS device with dual mortgage screen

[fringe temple]

if the mortage screen even exists 😄

[lilac cobalt]

I feel a little bad paying $350 for the Thor pro with a sd 8g2 when the Odin 3 with elite starts at $300

[fringe temple]

clamshell tax 😄 even if the thor is incredibly well priced

[kind saffron]

The price diff makes sense for the effort imo

More going on then just a single screen candybar

[nocturne osprey]

dualscreen tax

just be happy with the purchase and enjoy the handheld when it arrives

[left kiln]

Not even a tax tbh. The Thor pro is $20 cheaper than the equivalent Odin 3 pro

[lilac cobalt]

I have a portal, yeah. So no Odin 3 for me

[left kiln]

The Thor is just the more interesting device

[kind saffron]

Agreed

[devout forge]

maybe next year?

[lilac cobalt]

That is… until arm proton suddenly drops

[kind saffron]

If only

[devout forge]

would love a sd865 flip 3 with dpad on top and the odin 3 screen on top

it would actually be not only a true ds replacement but a ps vita replacement aswell

[lilac cobalt]

Flip3 would replace ds ? How?

[devout forge]

with a bottom screen being the mortgage screen

[lilac cobalt]

Wouldn’t that be a Thor lol

[devout forge]

no, because the thor has a 3.7 inch bottom screen for ds content amd has analog stick on the top aswell which would be less comfortable for ds games

[lilac cobalt]

Isn’t it a 3.92” screen

Oh you mean scaled for ds

[devout forge]

yes

[gilded pecan]

yeah dpad bottom on the Thor is a bit of a let down for DS I have to admit

[lilac cobalt]

Tbh I have a dsi xl and N3ds idk why I’m buying a Thor lol. I think I just love flips

[gilded pecan]

but if this had been stick bottom then I probably would have complained about it not being good for high end emulation

[devout forge]

I would have loved if the sd865 thor model had a dpad on top design and the 8 gen 2 one kept the analog centric design

[gilded pecan]

that would have been my ruin, because then I'd have to buy both lol

[devout forge]

well, that way you would cover all use cases no?

[gilded pecan]

well yeah, you are not wrong there

[lilac cobalt]

Just play ds on a ds

[gilded pecan]

I'm guessing we'll probably see a dpad top dual screen handheld eventually

maybe by Anbernic

since they are back to doing dpad top lately

[devout forge]

No save states, no hd texture packs, no fast forwarding, no upscaling, no oled screens

[left kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/endgame-avengers-hawkeye-clint-barton-dont-give-me-hope-gif-15254733

[devout forge]

I have a dsi xl and it's great, but I am very dissatisfied with the screen

it's so bad

low brightness and poor washed out colors

not only that but certain games such as pokemon platinum I didn't want to play on the device cause everybody says it's better played with fast forwarding

if the ds had an oled screen mod I would probably find it to be good enough not to look for a dpad on top emulation device

[hushed ridge]

Some DS flash carts actually do have save states, they work great

[devout forge]

yeah but the ui is probably not nearly as good as the one I have on dsi

it has boxart, and game icons

it looks great

ds lite is the only og ds worth buying anyway and apparently it has an even worse screen than the one on the dsi

[jaunty hull]

then dont. cancel and get the odin 3.

[devout forge]

I've seen ds fanboys praise the dsi screen to be so good cause it has ips, well maybe for 2011 it was decent

[devout forge]

you pay for the pocketability and the 2nd screen, it's really up to you if you want power or flexibility

the thor is 300 dollars at 8gb ram just as the odin 3

[vast ibex]

If you only really care about 3DS, the Thor Lite should be more than good enough at $250.

[vapid rain]

I’d say it’s that, but also if you don’t care about being able to upscale every 3ds game or using texture packs

Idk how well the 865 would handle texture packs on 3ds

[gentle notch]

865 should be able to do 3x on every game assuming the emulator is compatible with the game

Also most texture packs should be good too

[vapid rain]

“Most” is good but not good enough for me, but I’m already getting the Pro at some point for the Clear Purple :p

[gentle notch]

Most basically being all in this case

Hell I can use hd textures on mh4u with my rg cube

865 should have no issues

[snow palm]

I think it should be able to do 4x too?

[lilac cobalt]

I fell for the Thor hype but I do love my clamshells. I’m just wondering if this will replace my portal and flip2 in one swoop

I went for the pro trans purple

[gentle notch]

For most games yeah it should

Some might need to be turned down to 3x

Although the 8 gen 2 is only $50 more so I mean, might as well

[snow palm]

I mean very true, but like i can do most of what i want with the 865. and i'm trying to not fall in the trap of buying more than i actually need just because its well priced.

[wispy fjord]

16gb ram and 8gen2 should do Winlator a lot more smoothly than an RP5, right?

[fringe temple]

oh yeah, not even close

[frozen laurel]

Check and see some Odin 2 Pro videos using Winlator

[wispy fjord]

Fair enough. Videos are hard for me to judge vs just doing it myself/asking for comparison from those who know by hand, but that's true I suppose. Ty.

[snow palm]

Ive read a long time ago you be able to run steam on android right? Aslong as you have 12gbs

[wispy fjord]

I actually got it running on the RP5 (8gb) but it's touch and go, lol. And I'm wondering if a niche game or two will even launch.

[ancient torrent]

There are apps that let you load steam but it's very early stages from what I've seen. I wouldn't buy anything just for that.

I forget the names. One was Pulvia or something?

But yes more ram would be good for x86 emulation stuff

People ran stuff on 8gb. Would just depend on what game.

[lavish crypt]

gamehub

and you can run a bunch of stuff on 8g of ram via winlator and what not

[wispy fjord]

Gamehub doesn't load Steam, it just loads the games. Important distinction if you want to use cross saves.

But yeah, I got at least one of three games I'm interested in to work on both Gamehub and Winlator but the other two are giving me much grief getting to start.

[wispy fjord]

I tried that but it seems to have trouble completing downloads at this time

[ancient torrent]

I'm blanking hard but there's at least one other thing that does it. Gamehub or one of those?

I haven't messed with winlator or any x86 emulation yet so I haven't retained all that info lol

Oh you said gamehub lol nvm

[wispy fjord]

All good. My problem is that it doesn't retain or access cloud saves when installing your games. It also has to deal with the DRM involved via whatever method it uses.

[lavish crypt]

its fun to tinker with but not something i aim to do on these devices

[wispy fjord]

Yeah, it's just some very specific things I'm looking into it for myself.

[lavish crypt]

local streaming from my pc has taken over for me haha

[gentle notch]

Gamenative

[wispy fjord]

Yeah, I typically stream from my Steam Deck, but it would be nice to play games like this on my break at work, for example

[gentle notch]

For steam saves I usually just get a cracked version and move the save manually

[ancient torrent]

Yeah that sounds right. Youve tried it?

[gentle notch]

A little, a lot of the games crashed tbh

I've gotten better results on winlator most of the time

[jaunty hull]

4x for most yeah. again there might be fringe cases that you might need to turn it down but yeah.

but yeh, if you want something that you dont have to think about for 3DS. upgrading to the pro is prob worth it. not to mention for the better battery efficiency as well.

its good a lite option exists for those that might not be able to afford spending more or are totally fine with those games running maybe not cranked up to the max lol.

[lavish crypt]

i am forever surprised by how much the 865 can run tbh

[jaunty hull]

I said the same thing about the G1 Gen2 lol.

[lavish crypt]

it does a great job in a lot of situations haha

i mean of course its no 8g2 but its not as weak as a lot of people may think

[jaunty hull]

really hope the Elite gets more support. as it should. but yeh.

[lavish crypt]

i'm sure it will eventually

[jaunty hull]

yeah just a question of when lol. but yeh, thats kinda why I think I'll skip the Odin 3 for now.

[lavish crypt]

yea thats something i'll pick up later used

[jaunty hull]

Im just gonna wait and eventually hope that it gets better support and then also they put it in the Thor 2 lol.

[lavish crypt]

i'm waiiting for thor reviews

i want to see it in use first

[jaunty hull]

I got one ordered. I wanna tinker with the posible jank.

[lilac cobalt]

if qualcomm open sourced the drivers it would go faster

[lavish crypt]

it does seem fun to tinker with haha

i just gotta make sure before i order yet another 8g2 device

[jaunty hull]

lol valid.

I also like to gamble so....

[lavish crypt]

i have the og odin 2 pro and odin 2 portal atm

[jaunty hull]

nice. I hear the portal is great.

[lavish crypt]

and i just got a sff pc yesterday with the intel ultra 7 265t in it that i am going to set up as a retro/media machine

[lavish crypt]

its awesome

[jaunty hull]

like everyone I see mostly talks about how the Portal is the best version.

[lavish crypt]

yea it really is

its a little uncomfortable in the hand

i had to get the grip

and i bought bigger sticks

but other than that its fantastic

[jaunty hull]

thats how It is with most these devices lol.

[lavish crypt]

i didn't with the og odin 2

i thought that was super comfortable

i think cause its wider

and has less butt humps

[jaunty hull]

I guarantee you the thor is gonna be the least comfortable thing lol

[lavish crypt]

It's quite a bit bigger tbh

[lavish crypt]

100%

i don't think its gonna be comfortable for long gaming sessions

[jaunty hull]

I played my 3DS a couple years back. and man....playing for extended time, cramps....

but like. grip and its prob fine.

I prefer that its uncomfortable so it can be more portable.

bcz you can then just add the grip afterwards.

[lavish crypt]

true

i think the flip 2 is just gonna be more comfy in general

it will stay as my edc bag device

[jaunty hull]

Flip 2 will be, just based on button placemnent.

[lavish crypt]

indeed

[jaunty hull]

its more cramped and pushed towartds the side bcz of the screen in the middle.

really just 3DS ergonomics.

[gilded pecan]

it depends, a lot of people found the DS/3DS fine, this will be about the same

most people should know what they are getting into unless they've never played on a clamshell

[sacred gorge]

3DS is pretty comfy

[kind saffron]

Yeah. Again there's no definites in comfort

What works for some doesn't for others

Odin 2 is probably the least complained about comfort wise

[icy atlas]

Thor is exactly what I want in terms of ergos

Flat, no stupid bumps, controls all close to the edge

[kind saffron]

Yeah. I gladly sacrifice ergos for pocket. Every time

I'd sacrifice triggers too

[tame orchid]

binding of isaac up top. binding of isaac wiki on the bottom. seriously one of the things i’m most excited about with the thor.

[vapid rain]

I would only really pocket clamshells anyhow

Something like the Odin 3 that I personally want I’d probably put inside a carrying case and in a slingbag

[snow palm]

i find the 3ds slight less comfy cause the top screen is fairly heavy making it feel the weight is a bit unbalanced, but it makes up for alot of other things.

honestly the ds form factor is underated and weird how it hasn't been a thing in the last decade

[fading anvil]

We need more weird devices

[wispy fjord]

Like the OneXSugar?

[mighty obsidian]

Based on this image, I’m hoping Thor is less top-heavy than new 3DS XL. I’m looking forward to real impressions though.

[lilac cobalt]

that looks about as not top-heavy as possible. the lid is just screen

[crude tulip]

no lid speakers 😩

[tacit leaf]

yeah that's an "everyone is so mean to me 💔 " ass build

doubt it'll be top heavy at all

[gilded pecan]

what does this even mean

[tacit leaf]

just google it lol

[torpid reef]

big fat ass

[gilded pecan]

oh right

carry on then

[mighty obsidian]

Yeah. How weight is distributed is really important. I’m hoping it’s as comfortable or similar to a candy bar shaped console.

One interesting thing about the design is that it’s a lot less wide than most horizontal designs because the controls are not next to the widest screen.

[jaunty hull]

yeah thats the benefit of verticals.

also its a huge point for it bcz it makes 4:3 games played on 16:9 screens not feel overly wide when compared to playing said games on actual horizontals. where you have a lot of dead screen space, and then controlls at the edges.

[torpid canyon]

what does this even mean

[hybrid mulch]

My 3dsxl is extra uncomfortable to use because its loose hinge makes it feel even more top heavy

[mighty obsidian]

It kind of gets the benefits of both. Controls are wider than GB style verticals, but closer together than horizantals.

[jaunty hull]

yeah, only real downside is the ergonomics on it will be very 3DS esque. lol. which I dont mind. it keeps it portable, and then I can just use a grip at home.

[wispy fjord]

Honestly, having small hands can be a curse at times for gaming (m+kb for some games are brutal), but for Nintendo stuff or adjacent? I lucked out.

[icy atlas]

Thor is small hands dream come true

[torpid canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/dk-gif-12299542365162384910

[wispy fjord]

I'm super excited for it.

[round quest]

Small hands do come in advantage for retro handhelds i think

I love my RG28XX when other people said the buttons are two small. I agree they could be bigger but thankfully they are still perfectly usable for me

[vernal zinc]

I love the 28xx too

[knotty ether]

Yes, I would never buy that stupid thing but I’m so happy that it exists and I want them to keep trying weird stuff.

[devout forge]

the 3ds xl is top heavy? wut?

[low lake]

tbh i had to buy a grip to play longer sessions 😄

[mighty obsidian]

It’s fine, but it could be better.

[low lake]

cant wait to play the peak

[mighty obsidian]

I just tested it to see if my memory was wrong, but the New 3DS Xl is actually top heavy. When I hold it loosely, the very bottom of the device is resting up against the base of my thumbs (because the weight of top screen is pulling the top half of the device slightly forward & down). In comparison, when I hold a Vita 1000 the same way it rests entirely in my palm.

It’s not that big of a difference, but it is there. The Thor top screen is like half the thickness, so I’m hoping/expecting that effect to be lessened or gone completely.

[devout forge]

I have a n3dsxl and I never found it to be top heavy

same goes with my dsi xl

[mighty obsidian]

I believe you, but that’s just your experience. I just tested it, and the bottom of the unit does pull up instead of resting in the palm. It’s a slight effect and does not take much effort to counter, so it’s likely you are not sensitive to it. Everyone is different though.

[frigid shore]

Yeah, top heavy doesn't necessarily mean uncomfortably top heavy.
It matters more how you have to hold the thing (unless it's like, ridiculously lopsided in weight, ahaha)

[alpine hazel]

Do you have a recommendation for DS flash carts? I want to get one for my girlfriend but I don’t know the first thing about the DS. She has an original DS. I’ve heard the Parallel was great or awful depending on the thread. I thought about getting her a modern handheld and loading it up but I think she’d appreciate being able to use the device she grew up with. Thank you so much.

[gilded pecan]

there are dozens of us

[slender palm]

its that or a generic mystery meat R4 off ali for a couple bucks
they've been cloned to hell for a decade so they're all kinda ok at this point

https://nds.flashcarts.net/card/

if you wanted to get into specifics of weird ones you see online but they're mostly R4 derivatives

[alpine hazel]

Thank you. Is there a way to display box art using flash carts?

[slender palm]

iirc nds roms/games contain their own icons which is shown on most loader menus
custom box art unsure

[sacred gorge]

It's the icon you see when you put a cartridge in

[sacred gorge]

There is an app for Twilight menu called Twilight box art to get custom box art too.
Tho Ive never used it

From reddit

[proper estuary]

Would I be better off going for the lite model if it is only going to be used for up to 3ds/gamecube/ps2 level emulation?

[vapid rain]

Definitely.
865 can handle basically every 3ds game

[sacred gorge]

Eh I don't agree

My Odin 2 Mini only just ok with 3ds

I didn't even bother trying on my RP5

[vapid rain]

That's a one-screen device though?

[gentle notch]

That doesn't sound right tbh

Should be 4x no problem

[vapid rain]

I was told otherwise when I said I'd need Pro model for playing upscaled + HD Textures pack

[gentle notch]

Who said that

[vapid rain]

I meant that to validate you, worded it badly x3
I thought we'd need more than 865 is what I meant

But apparently 865 can still handle even most texture packs while upscaled?

[sacred gorge]

In 2024, with Citra I remember having stutters at 1x

That was with no drivers tho

[vapid rain]

Citra is very outdated compared to the 3ds emulators we're using nowadays

[gentle notch]

Oh yeah that makes sense, azahar is a world of a difference

[sacred gorge]

I would assume so

That said

I'd still would just get the base

A bit more money for a lot more power

[vapid rain]

^

Should be able to handle any texture packs as well with upscaled resolution.
There's one I can think of already I'd wanna use that would benefit from 8g2 simply bc it is straight up not meant to be used on an actual 3ds like some texture packs out there (which I assume would also be a bit difficult to run on 865 upscaled)

[alpine hazel]

Oh, perfect thank you!

[jaunty hull]

also the 8g2 should be slightly better on battery playing 3DS and PS2. in theory anyways.

[flint pumice]

I haven't tried a lot of games on Azahar but everyone I tried I could do 4x on RP Flip 2 without issues.

[snow palm]

There many videos online showing 3ds running on like 4x On a retroid5 which has like the same specs

[jaunty hull]

that should be the case for a majority of 3DS games iirc.

seriously tho. the value proposition at most levels is pretty reasonable. hardest justification will be the max. but even thats not bad.

[hot holly]

It's basically a very slightly bigger and heavier Pocket Flip 2

It's like 2.5mm thicker

[hot holly]

? R5 doesn't have the same specs unless you go for the Thor lite which is a waste imo

[icy atlas]

As the flip 2

[sacred gorge]

Pro was the hardest for me

I saw no reason to get it since price wise it would be higher than the Max if I got an equivalent SD card to match the 1tb

So it was either Base or Max

[prisma bay]

still have not purchased but considering pro bc 12gb ram seems the best pairing for 8gen2/high end emulation lol

[crude tulip]

yep, 12gb RAM is the best match for a 8gen2, 8gb will run into issues with the highest end Switch games and Winlator, 16gb can't be utilized, as games that need it, are too demanding for the SoC itself

my Odin 2 Mini aside all my 8gen2/G3x Gen2 devices have 12gb RAM

[limpid belfry]

this is why I got the Max Thor. I donno why I didn’t think of it before now. but I keep buying 1tb sd cards for these devices, and that pushes the cost up higher than the highest spec models

[snow palm]

Well we were talking about the lite above that message.

And i don't see why the lite would be a waste.

[red cairn]

I didn't really think worrying about how much ram a game uses helps cause it's not literally a console. Like if you want to multitask while using it you need ram.

[jaunty hull]

Pro unlocks colour options and maxes out what's needed currently for switch.

But the extra 80 for 4x the storage is just worth it. Unless you already have a 1tb+ SD card already. Then it can be more debatable.

Even the lite is good for what you get

[jaunty hull]

Not necessarily but for the most part yeh. Running HD Texture packs can eat up ram depending on the ones used.

[gilded pecan]

multitasking is rarely a RAM bottleneck in Android (as in, the majority of things you would want to do other than playing a game will not use all that much RAM to make a meaningful difference)

this is really only a concern if you plan on playing multiple games simultaneously

but if that is in your plans then you are an absolute psycho

[hot holly]

Which still doesn't, 865 ≠ 8g2, it's a waste to get an 865 Thor

[icy atlas]

RP5 has the same chipset as the RP Flip 2

[jaunty hull]

its really not a waste.

for ppl specifically getting one for 3DS. its gonna be fine for 95% of games at 4x res.

pushing this false narative that people NEED to spend the extra 50 dollars is really not smart and just pushes pointless consumerism.

that being said, the extra 50 dollars for a more powerful sku is a good deal for those willing and wanting of the extra power and efficiency.

[wheat creek]

should just not buy 🤷‍♂️

buy once cry once

[mighty obsidian]

Yeah, I’ve been going back & forth on how much to upgrade. Base model will probably be enough for most games, but pro/max can help with some Switch, Android, and Winlator games. And also, having more storage built right in would be pretty convenient, and save me from having to buy a sd card. I’m leaning toward pro with an outside chance at going all in on max.

[jaunty hull]

yeah I wanted the full terrabyte anyways. and I dont have a spare 1tb sd floating around so its almost the same to just go max. and I do have winlator/gamehub plans.

[sacred gorge]

Buy all the models

[wispy fjord]

Now that I have been messing with Winlator, I'm honestly chomping at the bit to see what I can do with it on a Max Thor.

Dumb niche games played locally, here I come!

Unless anyone with a device with the same specs wants to check on a game for me, lol

[balmy stump]

looking forward, is the 8gen2 lacking the power for ps3, or is it more a software lag problem?

[jaunty hull]

mostly software. technically speaking. but its complicated.

IIRC, PS3 Architecture is a nightmare. not just for emulation but even programming for it back in the day.

[jolly wadi]

I’ve got vf5, outrun2006, and hard corps uprising running great on my dmg. Basically the only ps3 games I need lol

[left kiln]

Yeah its a mess. In theory the power is there to run games of that quality as you can play the PC versions of those titles through winlator. Obviously its not a 1 to 1 comparison but really the issue is with PS3 emulation on android and just how early it is.

[jaunty hull]

this list is missing tokyo jungle.

[jolly wadi]

I’ll have to check it out some time

[jaunty hull]

fun little arcadey roguelike ish game.

[left kiln]

Im starting to wonder just how many orders went in for the Thor. If the O3 is at 1100 compared to 170 backers for the Konkr. Then how well did the Thor do if the Pocket DS has 1300 backers 🤔

[jaunty hull]

no solid numbers but according to Joey's Retro Handhelds, he says that seeing affiliate link sales numbers for the Thor were the biggest single day sales numbers he has seen personally.

[left kiln]

Yeah I saw that. AYN must have done some really good number with the Thor

[icy atlas]

at the same time the individual models are doing big numbers, the market as a whole is increasing

like there were so many people who's first handheld was an rp5 or an odin2p

i bet the very same is going to be true with the odin3 and thor

[jaunty hull]

reminds me of the old days when I really wanted a dingoo

[icy atlas]

miyoo p60 will be the best selling retro handheld of all time

[jaunty hull]

speaking of miyoo.
hot take, I think they arent that good and just got lucky with the mini line and Onion OS devs.

[icy atlas]

freezing ice cold refrigerator take

[flint pumice]

It’s 5k in China on JD so that’s a very decent number.

So it’s about 5-10:1 against Pocket DS.

[left kiln]

What's JD?

Thats impressive numbers though

[flint pumice]

It’s like Amazon in China. Usually people order electronics there more often than Taobao

[left kiln]

Ah ok. Thanks

[flint pumice]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/JD.com

It’s B2C whereas Taobao is C2C

Though Alibaba has T-mall (which is on Taobao) that is B2C as well

[nocturne osprey]

yeah JD has amazing shipping

[nocturne osprey]

how do these preorders work in terms of shipping btw

does 'start shipping' mean they'll ship a small amount of orders in the projected timeframe and slowly work their way through the backlog

also will there be delays

[jolly wadi]

CQC?

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-solid-v-venom-snake-cqc-body-slam-combo-gif-27602728

[hot holly]

It's not a false narrative, you're buying a device without future proofing and a lot of things won't be able to take advantage of it's maximum specs properly or stably

It's basically impulse control

If you can't wait and save $50 for an exponentially more powerful option that's far more future proof, it's a bad idea to buy it at all imo, I'd only buy the 865 if you literally only want to play Nds and 3ds at 3x and 6th gen at 1.5-2x

And basically no Wii U or Switch

Might be a bit harsh but that's just how I feel abt it and stuff like that

I'm really hyped and want to order one right now personally, but I'm gonna save a bit and buy the 12-256gb sku and the accessories I want

• a Usb C hub to go with it

[fresh pivot]

“Future proofing" for these devices is pointless anyway. Especially when you're still gonna be using few-years-old chips even if you're buying the top model of the thor.

[wheat creek]

There's a lot of people that shouldn't buy ANY model

[ornate dune]

But then they wouldn't have a Thor

[fringe temple]

Not really a hot take but yes 🙂

As for the Thor I'm waiting to see how my guinea pigs get on with their launch 1 models

[dusky thunder]

I have a name you know 😅🤣

[ornate dune]

https://tenor.com/view/shake-guinea-pig-gif-18384642

It me

[wheat creek]

gambling on ayaneo hopefully i don't have to swap to team ayn

[hot holly]

Not really, the device has dual 1080p displays, future proofing in the sense that you'll be able to make the most of the specs of the device for the longest, getting the sd865 you're already hard capping what you can get out of it more or less

[jolly dune]

Buying both ill let you know which of mine you should buy

[hot holly]

Like the 865 can't do 3ds at 5x to max out the displays, and it can't run Switch or Wii U at 1080p either

[wheat creek]

865 exists to make people that would have bought base buy the pro model

[hot holly]

Lol

[wheat creek]

im not even kidding

[hot holly]

It got me anyway 🤷‍♂️

Although I'm a very indecisive person tbh

I'm still half looking at a 8g3 tablet instead lol

[wheat creek]

it's a real marketing thing!!! I just can't recall exact concept name

[hot holly]

It's like fomo but for future proofing/getting the best value

[severe kelp]

would have picked up the Lenovo Legion Tab Gen 3

but no sd card...shame

that thing also fits into their G9 controller case, so basically handheld mode

[hot holly]

I don't think there's literally any 8g3 tablet with an SD slot 🫠

[severe kelp]

yeah sad

but hey there's the 7+ gen 3 tablets like the iplay 70 mini ultra

which is slightly slower than a 8 gen 2

[low lake]

tbh i would probably do Thor 865 if i didnt already owned RP5/MiniV2 😄

so now i will have two sd865 nd two sd8g2 😄

[fresh pivot]

Again you're still gonna be using older stuff even if you go for the top model. If the 865 suits all your needs right now, chances are by the time you feel that you need more power, newer and better options (that whatever the top option is right now) will be available. So why not pay less now and get a device with more power when you need it? Makes more sense than paying more for things you don't need just to not utilize it and end up buying a newer model later anyway.

Unless you just want the latest and greatest just because. In that case the argument of future proofing is moot anyway.

[severe kelp]

lol this is like my dilemma rn as in i currently planning to built a new pc

contemplating to go 6 cores or 8 cores for the cpu (upgrade from 4 core ryzen 3 3100)

judging by how BF6 performs, i may go for 8 cores this time

[low lake]

• with sd8g2 i can turn it into ultimate pokemon console

(not sure i how sd865 ca do wih switch pokeymen)

[fringe temple]

Can probably do some

[snow palm]

I think you mean the decoy effect?

[hot holly]

What region? There's actually some 12c chips that are as cheap as some 6/8c rn

Mainly the 7900

[wheat creek]

intel 14th gen is discount bin price rn, comes with bf6 too

except 0 upgrade route

and intel 14th gen problems, not sure if solved with just bios update or you have to also undervolt

[hot holly]

Getting cheap Am5 rn is the best imo

Max 250 on cpu, then you've 7800x3D/7945hx/9800X3D/7945hx3D upgrade options

You can get the 7945hx in MinisForums BD795i SE for pretty good value rn though

Or a Toptop board with a 7840hs/8845hs

[hybrid mulch]

5800x + 3060ti on am4 here. Is now a good time for me to upgrade?

[hot holly]

Depends I suppose

You could honestly just sell your 5800X and upgrade to a 5950X/5800X3D

They're still really good and then you can get a gpu upgrade that's more worthwhile and get a better cpu in like 2 years when Ryzen 9000 gets cheaper

By then Amd will probably release a 9700X3D too

[fringe canopy]

Can Cemu Android do dual screens yet?

[hot holly]

a 9700X3D is 99% likely on the way already anyway

[hybrid mulch]

Hmm I guess I can wait. My pc is kinda struggling with new UE5 titles. These games look worse than last gen on low graphics settings which annoys me.

[low lake]

iirc fork from huesos can

but havent thsted myself yet

[crude tulip]

trust me, even high end PCs struggle with that shit

[wheat creek]

14600k + bf6 is $150

[hybrid mulch]

Thank you for saving me tons of 💵

[icy atlas]

I always forget there are people that actually put amd CPUs in desktop PCs

[wheat creek]

no point going am4 unless ur already on it anymore

[icy atlas]

Instead of just clicking the button for i7-XX700K

[wheat creek]

amd has been the go to for desktop pcs for a while

[hybrid mulch]

The last intel cpu I put in my desktop pc was xeon 1230

[wheat creek]

2500k

[icy atlas]

Why would you put a xeon in a desktop pc

[slender palm]

cheap space heater

[hybrid mulch]

xeon 1230 was crazy good value for gaming back then

[slender palm]

that too

[jolly dune]

Intel 10850k I still miss those fat 10 full cores

[slender palm]

nah i9 10900k is what im running and its starting to get aged out

cpu use is starting to get brutal in some games

[icy atlas]

my 10700K is still fine

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[slender palm]

play stalker 2 and come back to me on that

[icy atlas]

My games all run at 120hz

[crude tulip]

I have 3 desktop PCs in the house 9800x3D, Core Ultra 7 265k, i9-9900k

[icy atlas]

Idk what the new dumbass Intel naming system is yet I've been too afraid to learn

[crude tulip]

they just renamed from "i" to "Core Ultra" for whatever reason

[slender palm]

I mean its the same as before but the "core ultra" and the leading ### removed

[icy atlas]

Slightly different actual numbering though right

[slender palm]

Yeah since the last number was basically useless it kinda got dropped too

[icy atlas]

Like is 265 supposed to be 600K?

What does this Mean.

I am like a caveman.

[slender palm]

Core Ultra # = i3/5/7
2## = generation 2 (same as 10XXX being 10th series)

= cpu power

And letter suffix same as before afaik K for overclock etc

[icy atlas]

I see

I dislike it

[slender palm]

I mean they were due for a number crunch anyway

the whole core ultra could have been something better but w/e

[jolly dune]

Ive three in my room 😉

This isnt a flex please someone buy one

[icy atlas]

I have three computers in my room

None are a flex but one is a Plex if that helps

[crude tulip]

I was just saying desktop PCs, I still have an old i5-4570 somewhere, two Mini PCs and enough notebooks to throw one out of the window each month for a year or so

[jolly dune]

Can never have enough homelab

[icy atlas]

I have 120 OptiPlexes in a closet

I need less OptiPlexes

[lavish crypt]

i just got a sff pc with the ultra 7 265t haha

using it as a retro game/media machine

[jolly dune]

This is how youre meant to do it right?

[lavish crypt]

stacked rigs ftw

[severe kelp]

I live in Malaysia where the 7700 and the 9600x are around the same price rn

But the 12c CPUs are more towards the 9800x3d prices

Which is way outta my budget

But I can maybe get a 7800x3d if the price is right

[nocturne osprey]

I sure hope that it's not 13/14 for those

also i7-XX700K doesn't exist anymore for Intel's newest line

[nocturne osprey]

you can try finding an AM4 x3D chip, but if they're all expensive just go for an AM5 build with the 7500f/7600/9500f (7700 is a really good 8 core AM5 option)

if you have productivity needs and don't like to upgrade your PC often, the Intel 265K is a pretty decent choice since it doesn't have the degradation issues of the 13th/14th gen Intel CPUs and beats AMD's option for that price bracket (the 9700X) in all non-gaming tasks while being very close to it in gaming

[severe kelp]

i'm hoping for the very small chance that AMD might release a 9600X3D

that might be the best gaming cpu around

[nocturne osprey]

if your PC does what you need it to do, you can stay on your build for a few more years since you'll need a platform change for any upgrades

[nocturne osprey]

wdym, shit already exists

[severe kelp]

for the time being i have bought the other parts (SSD,Mobo,Case). CPU and GPU might be the last ones

[nocturne osprey]

I just helped a friend build a PC with that chip

[severe kelp]

well not in Malaysia rn it seems

[nocturne osprey]

if it's not available for you and you could use the extra cores, the 7700 is honestly a really good option

[severe kelp]

have explored every site available here and no luck yet

[nocturne osprey]

it's been on sale for a while, I picked up one for ~200 USD last year and it's gotten cheaper since then

[severe kelp]

AMD always releases the more interesting parts later it seems

while the flagship 9800x3d always the earliest

[nocturne osprey]

RIP

idk I'm using a non-x3D chip right now and gaming on it is fine

the AM5 chips are all quite capable

no need to wait for an x3D part to drop in your market if you need an upgrade now

[severe kelp]

yeah i could honestly go either way

[nocturne osprey]

if the price/performance is fine to you, just go for it

I'm very happy with my 7700

[severe kelp]

yeah might go that, or wait for the 7800x3d to come down in price again

but i think gonna exp it with pairing with my old gpu which is a gtx 1660 lol

at least i can boost the frames a decent amount in CS2

[nocturne osprey]

all great chips lol, the 265K gets hated on by Redditors but it's honestly a great chip for anyone looking to use their PC for non-gaming tasks (it's actually quite good in gaming too) and will use their rig long enough where platform longevity won't really matter

[nocturne osprey]

I think you're going to get more mileage out of upgrading your GPU lol

the 4070 or 16GB variant of the 5060Ti are pretty good if you can afford them

obviously stuff like the 9060XT 16GB and Intel Arc B580 are also good budget options, but I'm assuming that you want CUDA cores and DLSS

[severe kelp]

yeah though here the RX9060 XT is approaching bargain pricing currently with the 9.9 Shoppee sales

[nocturne osprey]

yeah the 9060XT is good if you're getting the 16GB variant

8GB is fine if you only play FPS games or are fine with lowering settings

[honest slate]

Most of the time the limitation is not the settings but the game itself, some (modern) games just hog VRAM. Turning the settings down can help with 12GB cards currently but some games just can't sit in 8GB vram nicely

Big fan on the 9060 XT 16GB though, wouldn't get anything else unless your budget can stretch to the 9070 or higher

[nocturne osprey]

tbf I've been playing games on high settings with my B580 pretty well

12GB is still fine for gaming even if you don't want to compromise on graphical settings much

I think the line atm is 10GB? anything lower than that and you should go into the purchase expecting to play everything on low

[honest slate]

...for now. The rate at which newer games are chewing through ever increasing amounts of vram is concerning

[nocturne osprey]

yeah for sure

but hey I'm taking 2-3 years of high settings on new games for my 250USD investment

[honest slate]

Hell yeah

FSR and DLSS are now about equal, both performance wise and in visual fidelity. Both are working on reducing VRAM usage in their next itterations

[nocturne osprey]

XESS is actually pretty good btw

just needs games to adopt it

[honest slate]

It's the weakest of the 3 but not by a whole lot. It's open nature makes me hope we get support for it on these qualcomm gpus

[green wraith]

I wonder if next gen 60 class will finally be double the performance of my rx 6600 🤔

[nocturne osprey]

no chance

[green wraith]

if it's pretty close that's good enough for me

[honest slate]

In raytracing the 9060 XT might do already

[green wraith]

oh no question, but i mostly care about raster

[nocturne osprey]

oh wow the 9060XT actually does that in raytracing

yeah

The AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT offers significantly higher rasterization performance than the RX 6600, with benchmarks showing it to be anywhere from ~70% to over 130% faster, depending on the specific benchmarks and resolution tested.

a quick Google search

[green wraith]

the 130% or anything in that ballpark is just due to vram i assume

[nocturne osprey]

this is the 8GB variant I believe

anyways if the 6600 is still working for you just stick with it

no reason to ditch hardware that's still working perfectly fine

[green wraith]

I slightly regret upgrading from 1080p144 to 1440p180 before upgrading my gpu lol

hopefully 2nm saves us all 🙏

[nocturne osprey]

to be fair monitors are dirt cheap nowadays lol

I got a 1440p 200-210 monitor for ~96 USD a few weeks ago

[green wraith]

yeah i got mine for like $110 brand new

[nocturne osprey]

has a fucking light sensor too

[green wraith]

Nice

[nocturne osprey]

but yeah I think it was a good thing that you delayed your monitor purchase

[green wraith]

The only downside to 1440p is that it doesn't integer scale with 1080p

[nocturne osprey]

market has gotten a lot better in the past couple of years

true

I use two 1440p monitors nowadays though, so it's not a huge issue for me

[green wraith]

I mean I guess I can integer scale 720 though 😅

4k is still not even close to worth the performance hit

[supple mason]

I still haven't decided between this and the pocket ds
Biggest reason being the bottom screen isn't 4:3

[nocturne osprey]

I also think there's a point where the human eye isn't going to mind resolution increases too much

[green wraith]

It's oled, you won't even notice

The turned off pixels will blend in with the bezel

[supple mason]

I personally don't mind LCD, but that's a good point

[green wraith]

Assuming you get the black version of course 😭

[nocturne osprey]

obviously we can tell that 4k is significantly better than 1440p, but this is 1080p vs 1440p all over again but even less compelling for the higher resolution

1440p is really good already

[green wraith]

Depends on screen size, 24" is too small for me or else I would still be on 1080p

[nocturne osprey]

yeah I do not notice black bars on my RP Classic at all

[nocturne osprey]

yeah I'm assuming that most people are using 27" and up nowadays

[green wraith]

I had a 27" 1080p 144hz monitor for years and the super low pixel density eventually wore me down

[nocturne osprey]

24" is still great for 1080p

don't see people jumping to 32" monitors for a while

[green wraith]

As much as Nvidia keeps trying to push 4k gaming into the mainstream it's just not going to happen any time soon

[nocturne osprey]

I think we'll be staying in the 24-27 range for a long time

and 1440p will be the gold standard for that time period

[green wraith]

90% of the games I play were made before 2000 or run on a potato regardless

[honest slate]

perfect for winlator then

[green wraith]

Kernel level anti cheat says hello

[honest slate]

on pre 2010 games?!

[green wraith]

I'm referring to the 10% 😅

[honest slate]

oh 😂

[green wraith]

I figure eventually there will be a decent x86 dual screen clamshell at a reasonable price but until then I'm waiting on the sidelines

But the thor is extremely tempting

I would be snapping it up if I didn't already have a new 3ds and dsi xl

[nocturne osprey]

yeah the Thor is my endgame device

[honest slate]

Most 3DS games didn't abuse the touchscreen like a few of the ds games did so I'm hoping the thor will allow me to retire my n3ds with a dodgy screen

[nocturne osprey]

I'm looking for 3DS/Switch emulation with high-end stuff so this should be perfect for me

RP Classic is surprisingly great with NDS

[green wraith]

3DS emulation just isn't there yet, you can't even 100% complete super mario 3d land without gamebreaking stuff

Like you can beat the game but you can't max out your save

It'll be good enough for some people but unfortunately I am not some people

[honest slate]

Not something that can be patched/cheat coded out I imagine?

[green wraith]

Not as far as I know but also who wants to mess around with stuff like that

The whole point is to get all the tinkering over with before you start playing

[honest slate]

I've been preping some DS patched roms with the circle pad enabled. Not tested if that works in the android ds emulators though....

[jaunty hull]

so to my understanding. a lot of the Circle Pad Patched games really just map touch screen to the circle pad basically.

so in theory...you could use the built in screen mapping software to accomplish the same thing basically.

[random dove]

I can't decide between black and rainbow...

[round quest]

I accidentally broke my 5800x and "upgraded" to a 5700x3D and it increased by framerate in CPU bound games significantly

[mighty obsidian]

How much of a difference is there between pro and max for winlator games? I just saw that some people have been able to get Dark Souls 2 and 3 running on Odin 2 and wow it would be cool to have those games on a handheld.

Wondering if more memory is a big jump, or diminishing returns.

[honest slate]

It not even diminishing returns, most windows games don't need the max amount so the benefit is non-existent

*most windows games you'll be able to run

[nocturne osprey]

was talking about AM5 in that comment, even the 7500f trades blows with the 5800x3D

but yeah there's a significant difference between x3D and non-x3D AM4 chips even though stuff like the 5600 are still perfectly acceptable for budget builds nowadays

[round quest]

Totally. I was just shocked at how much better the x3D was. I am never going back

[lilac cobalt]

I got my 7700X for $200 as well back in April and never been happier. Paired with 9070XT

[mighty obsidian]

Thanks, that is very helpful! It sounds like the benefit of max version is mostly the huge internal storage.

[nocturne osprey]

7700/7700X is just an amazing chip at that price, the better options are all pushing 300

[wispy fjord]

Pardon the copypasta:

• Azahar main releases support dual screen
• MelonDS Nightly fork supports dual screen
• Cemu experimental fork supports dual screen, though its implementation atm is very confused
• PPSSPP too while we're at it

Huesos was given an Ayaneo Pocket DS to further benefit the community, so Azahar and MelonDS main both have pull requests to further increase compatibility in the works. I'll be updating my copy-paste once they've been merged.

I assume Cemu is after that.

Azahar PR and MelonDS PR if you're interested in keeping up on it.

[icy atlas]

Cemu I assume will be the lowest priority of most stuff considering how little people seem to care about Wii U emu these days

Modded BotW on Thor will go crazy though

[wispy fjord]

I'd think the other way around. Cemu is not unwanted but 3/DS is in higher demand first.

[left kiln]

The main stuff got ported to switch anyway I think

[snow palm]

Generally i dont really can think about a game on the top of my head i wanted to play thats on wiiu

[wispy fjord]

Twilight Princess HD. I know I'm a weirdo.

But being able to swap tools and things on the second screen in a Zelda game is a revelation.

[snow palm]

I mean okay to be fair windwaker hd is nice too.

[left kiln]

Zombi U would probably be the only one for me

[vapid rain]

Yeah, just about every worthwhile game on Wii U got ported.
It's basically just Wind Waker and Twilight Princess HD

Even Xenoblade X got a Switch port