AYN Thor

[snow palm]

I mean ye i csn see people would love a double screen device, like the top for more modern games and the bottom for more retro.

And its also nice in our short attention span brain generation, one screen plays brainrot other games

[sacred gorge]

I mean, judging by how the Pocket DS is doing even with the Thor

I'm certain that a lot of people preordered this

[finite nebula]

Lot of people want to be able to play DS/3ds as designed, but with better screens and horsepower

And if they can use wifi, would probably reignite the DS/3ds era pokemon titles

[gilded pecan]

yes, the Pocket DS also appears to be a hit, specially for Ayaneo

Ayaneo lucked out this time since AYN decided to do a smaller form factor than them

[elder wing]

It's basically the PSP vs DS argument again, just not as different

Both have their purpose and uses, just comes to what you want to play

[mental holly]

'

[kind saffron]

Is this a real thing? I don't hate it. But I also don't like it. Lol

At least the hinge looks sturdy

Pretty sure you can

But yeah. Folded it's basically a RDS permanently attached. I guess you get rid of the cable at least

[gilded pecan]

nah it's AI slop

but someday someone will make it for real

[kind saffron]

When they do I hope the top screen folds into the device 😆

[last pond]

The beauty of it, recent dual screen handhelds can play both

I like the idea that these devices got to the point that they cover anything you could reasonably call retro

[upper sail]

You can tell from the second A button where the B would be, despite being a render, that it’s AI. The part where the second A button is also a different color would show it’s not even a manufacturing error.

[last pond]

Also I think since we're basically getting 4 dual screen devices on the market at once (including Retroid's DS thing), people will eventually come up with more uses for the second screen

Like I remember there was once a mod for Eye of the Beholder being played through DOSBox that adds an automap (the game originally assumed you'll draw your own map for each level of the dungeon)

[snow palm]

The pocket ds, Thor, the add on and what's the other one?

[last pond]

Onexsugar

You know, the fucked up whacky transformer thing

Plus MagicX teased their 2DS-like thing, maybe my grandchildren will live to see it being actually released

[limpid belfry]

i haven’t preordered a Thor because I can’t decide between rainbow and black 😫

[sacred gorge]

[limpid belfry]

if they sold the rainbow buttons separate (and swapping the buttons in a clamshell wasn’t scary and intimidating) that would be ideal

[dark aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/jjk-jjk-memes-jjk-meme-purple-hollow-purple-gif-16875725797466816458

[snow palm]

Ooooh I forgot about that one, I was so hyped about it too when it was announced haha

[elder wing]

Basically! It boils down to what form factor you want at the end of the day as both has solid pros and cons

[balmy vortex]

Is it mid-October yet? 😟 I over hyped myself for something I'll forget about by the time it ships.

[balmy vortex]

I missed that. Lol

[errant dome]

the DS is still the 2nd highest selling console ever and while the 3ds sold half that, it still sold more than the NES, Genesis, N64, SNES, among others. combined, there are a lot of fans of dual screen games and therefore potential thor/pocket ds buyers. its also unique compared to most releases and endgame for many

[kind saffron]

It's funny cause the DS era is one that I just completely skipped

Got a 3DS and new 3ds XL tho

[honest slate]

I skipped the 3DS gen in favor of the vita. It's nice to come back to and experience fresh after the DS meant so much to me

[errant dome]

had both, love both

[last pond]

I think the "this is going to be niche" idea was largely based on the assumption all of these are going to be extremely expensive

And well, Thor is definitely comparable to a N3DSXL where I live

[hard wedge]

I had both, but played a lot less of the 3DS than I thought I would. Recently pulled my old XL back out, and had forgotten just how unergonomic it is, as my hands were cramping after a half-hour or so. I've now printed a grip that helps some, but it definitely dampened potential enthusiasm for the Thor.

[errant dome]

thor has an official grip tho

i wouldnt play the odin 2 or the portal without a grip either

[lilac cobalt]

portal with grip is so comfy

and i love the feel of the textured TPU way more than smooth plastic

I bought thor w/ grip and grip case.

[icy atlas]

It's crazy because the ds/3ds era was so far and away the best era of gaming

[left kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/marvel-is-it-though-thor-bruce-banner-gif-14242312

[zenith osprey]

Handheld gaming maybe. But the PSP is up there also. Playing PSX games on a handheld was great at time. Overall gaming I say PS3/360 time frame has that crown to me.

[torpid reef]

ds/psp era for sure. 3DS/Vita era less so

gimme Switch era over that 3DS/Vita era for sure

[icy atlas]

3ds beats the pants off every game released in the ds/PSP era it's not even close

[jolly wadi]

og nes/famicom

https://tenor.com/view/tv-simpsons-cloud-fist-grandpa-gif-12082744756246344299

[zenith osprey]

3ds was way after the psp

[torpid canyon]

Compare it to the vita

[zenith osprey]

Now saying the 3ds is better than vita is fair for games

[snow palm]

I wasn't much into gaming during the 3ds era , but it's the last era that had the handheld gaming vibe while the games feel fairly modern

[zenith osprey]

I also love the GBA because it was like a SNES in my hands.

[icy atlas]

PSP love is nostalgiabait

3DS Switch1 and GBA are infinitely better

[snow palm]

I mean I love almost every handheld.

[zenith osprey]

I do also why I have too many

[snow palm]

Maybe the switch and switch2 a bit less in my personal option since they strayed a little too far from what I considered a handheld.

[torpid canyon]

You’re making yourself lots of enemies

[snow palm]

The PSP was amazing, expecially for its time, I'd admit I didn't had many games for the psp as I had on the ds but it maybe the first handheld I used for emulation

[zenith osprey]

UMD movies on the go was great before smart phones.

I don't think Nintendo had that until the switch.

I know GBA had cart movies. I just forgot.

[slender palm]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Play-Yan
JP an PAL regions also got this.

[zenith osprey]

TIL

[snow palm]

I don't remember that anymore 😅

[jaunty hull]

a lot of consoles arent ergonomic. they were built for pocketability.

I never minded the n3dsxl when playing on the go. but you felt it when you spent time at home playing it for longer periods.

[errant dome]

i think a lot of the ergonomics importance for me as an elder millenial is the beginning of arthritis. young me never thought about ergonomics or hand pain

old me pays for that mistake

[jaunty hull]

I assume similar will be the case with the thor when it drops. so make sure to you get that grip lol

[zenith osprey]

I would skip the thor then and go for the odin 3

[errant dome]

again, grip

[crude tulip]

the grip looks ass

[errant dome]

also, have a portal i would never consider the 3

[zenith osprey]

Pics of grip?

[errant dome]

its on the site...

https://www.ayntec.com/products/thor-tpu-grip

[crude tulip]

I have a portal and demand my baby Portal now

[zenith osprey]

look like a grip

[errant dome]

it flares out more than the portal's grip, actually looks more comfy

[zenith osprey]

I have JC 3d print grip for my flip 2. Look very much like this.

[crude tulip]

this just looks like the grip will fall from the device

[snow palm]

I never had what people called hand cramps yet 🤔

[crude tulip]

you ain't playing enough, as a kid my hands once cramped so hard around my GCN controller that i couldn't let the thing go

[left kiln]

I think you need to see a specialist about that 😬

[crude tulip]

my parents where gone over the weekend and I played Mario Strikers all day

[snow palm]

At the very best my hands get paralyzed cause I lay in the wrong position while gaming or for phones and handhelds with sharp corners they dig in my hands.

[frozen laurel]

That thing makes the Flip 2 so comfortable

[lilac cobalt]

i like the grip i have

So comfy.

[crude tulip]

that's honestly more what the THOR grip should be like

[zenith osprey]

There will be 3rd party grips for this

[gentle notch]

That's just unfair to the vita

[errant dome]

vita is the gamecube of handhelds, not that many games but some super high quality releases. most of them ports, but really excellent ports for a handheld. vanillaware killing it with dragons crown, muramasa, and odinsphere, exclusive AAA games like gravity rush, tearaway, uncharted, and killzone, lots of good RPGs like persona 4 golden, tales of heart r, disgaea games, trails, Ys, lots of excellent fighters like ultimate marvel vs capcom 3, DOA5, Blazblue, SF x Tekken

vita was awesome

lots of good indie ports too! shovel knight, la mulana, axion verge, iconoclasts

stardew!

[zenith osprey]

dragons crown is too thirsty for me

[ornate dune]

Undertale's on the Vita too and that's just hands down one of the best games of all time

[elder wing]

Coldest take ever: the GBA to the Vita/3DS era were some of the best times to be a handheld fan. The Switch is amazing, but I call that less a handheld, more a portable device

[ornate dune]

Yeah, there's something special about games that were DESIGNED to be played handheld. We kind of lost that with the Switch.

[sacred gorge]

How so?

[jolly wadi]

arguably also because of the rise of mobile?

[elder wing]

That too.

[jolly wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-guys-not-have-a-phone-blizzard-diablo-gif-5097388828827651695

[jaunty hull]

games on handhelds were designed around their limitations and the idea of shorter play sessions. now everything is designed like a home console game that just happens to be portable. or is a mobile gacha game lol.

[low lake]

tbh lots of AAAs are designed like a gacha nowadays

especially the MP ones

[jaunty hull]

ah yeah games as a service garbage. lol

[latent roost]

This is the reason im holding off the Thor. Once Thor got announced i played at bit on my New 3DS XL and I forgot how uncomfortable that is, especially for D Pad centric games. Decided to just hold on to the RG477M because of that

In fact Thor may actually be worse than New 3DS XL dor D Pad centric games as the height of the Thor is slightly taller so bigger reach for the shoulder buttons

[sacred gorge]

hmm

personally i don't care much about the play session thing

mainly cause my handheld games of choices were all like long rpgs

the pokemons, final fantasy ports, megamans battle networks etc are what I think of when I play handhelds

Funny thing also

I remember back in the day, people were begging for proper console experiences on handhelds

Not the cut down / changed ports that were common during the era

[errant dome]

dragons crown is def thirsty

but its also one of the finest beat em ups ever

[zenith osprey]

Oh I agree. Vanillawear makes some great games.

[elder wing]

Ya know, for a studio called Vanillaware, they sure aren't making some Vanilla shit cause everything they make is grade A

[latent roost]

I wonder if prices of New 3DS will go down with this. I have 2 a regular and an XL. And ill be honest I just went back and forth now playing Kirby with 4x resolution on a retro handheld then playing the exact game on my New 3DS XL. While the game looks sharper, the colors are more saturated on the retro device, for me it just doesnt compare to playing in stereo 3D. In the Kirby game there are effects like being teleported to the background and foreground, id take the more duller screen with stereo 3D over playing at 4x on a more modern screen. But I know im in the minority here just thinking out loud

[errant dome]

the price of real product is highly based on speculation. pricing being driven up by resellers now selling to people with too much money, or people buying to hold for years and resell themselves later. these emulation handhelds are niche and not at all widespread. what will bring down the price of real hardware is something to cause rich adult children to hold on to their money, like a recession

[latent roost]

Yeah but gameboys, DS etc are all cheap. Its just the New 3DS systems that seem to be expensive. I got lucky with my 2 bought a year or 2 ago for cheap on Facebook

[upper sail]

No one appreciates what they had until it’s already gone.

Or, the much more accurate explanation, people want exactly what they don’t have at the moment even to the point of asking for the thing they, just beforehand, didn’t want.

[errant dome]

what im getting at is these new handhelds are just for playing games, they dont provide the same nostalgia collectors and resellers are after.

i guess what these 2 communities have in common is with us purchasing new devices over and over and setting them up, and them just hoarding their games on a shelf, neither of us actually play games

[upper sail]

The second the majority of games really start being lower budget and shorter in duration to avoid the glut of AAA budget bloat, we’re likely gonna see people asking for bigger budget and longer games all over again “because those games felt like they had more passion, since the devs were willing to put so much time and effort into making them be as expansive and big as possible”.

[errant dome]

theres millions of people and communication with anyone anywhere in the world is easy, youll always run into some opinion you disagree with or pisses you off. best not to think about it and just move on

[upper sail]

Shit, our community is one of the best examples of this taking place.

[wispy fjord]

and then there's Lumi

[last pond]

IMO being the most recent Nintendo console with easy piracy is what makes 3ds sought after, not collectability

Otherwise why is it often more expensive than any other Nintendo handheld before it

[latent roost]

I think its the no glasses stereo 3D being unique. Only super expensive device like Lume Pad 2 have no glasses stereo 3D. It just cant be replicated. Also notice the New 3DS models are the most expensive

[errant dome]

the double IPS ones are expensive, i personally dont consider the tn panel ones that expensive

i have lots of 3ds cartridges, i would want a double ips one but theyre more than im willing to spend

[latent roost]

I have a upper screen IPS New 3DS XL and dual TN New 3DS. Honestly there is no difference other than better viewing angles

[upper sail]

Hell, that’s not even getting into how cheap the old 3DS/2ds models are.

[errant dome]

and double ips is a lottery if new, or expensive if proven

[last pond]

And now we’re getting a double OLED one

[errant dome]

DAMN RIGHT!

[latent roost]

If only we got a Stereo 3D OLED panel lol

[errant dome]

if you can get a double ips 3ds with a special color like pikachu or snes, then yeah that is expensive, but cause its rare

if you just want any ol' 3ds, you can find cheap

[tame orchid]

man 3DS emulation on 2x OLED screens in the right form factor is gonna be crazy.

[tame orchid]

yeah i see 2DS go for like $80 relatively often

[wispy fjord]

I'm super excited for a Thor. Sometime in the future I may give the Retroid screen another try to have two 16:9 for novelty but for now this'll be great.

[low lake]

interesting , cheapest one here is like twice that

[kind saffron]

Adrenaline of the release and now coming back down. Lol

Waiting is the worst

[jaunty hull]

nope.

this is a super niche device. vs the 3DS being an actually popular console.

funny how ppl in here forget how truly niche emulation handhelds actually are.

[ember sail]

A good example is the price of physicals when modding a 3ds couldn’t be easier

People like original hardware and the DS generation was a huge success with a lot of people having nostalgia for it

[honest slate]

Original hardware also has the advantage of the resistive touchscreen for the styluses

[errant dome]

people outside of this hobby dont weigh pros and cons between this device and real hardware. they dont even consider these sorts of handhelds. i read somewhere that this sold like 4k units in china. lets say thats 2x or 3x with worldwide numbers. the pocket ds has 1254 backers. combined between both, that number is nothing

[gilded pecan]

I wonder if we'll ever be able to emulate that feel accurately on modern devices

[sacred gorge]

Don't you mean disadvantage with the resistive touch screens

I'd upgrade my DS to capacitive touch screens if that were an option anyday

[errant dome]

i wish i could use my galaxy s24's pen on the odin (wait can you?)

the biggest issue for me will be carrying the stylus, but if my phone carries it...

[torpid reef]

disadvantage to this is how easy it is to fuck up the bottom screen. A whole ass generation of kids ruined their DS touch screens playing pokemon ranger 😭

[errant dome]

thats why i got the screen protector pack, just for the bottom screen stylus use

thor 2 will come with a built in stylus

[sacred gorge]

yea but resistive works on pressure and is already less precise than capacitive

a screen protector would make playing games like pkm ranger so much harder

[errant dome]

theres usually a setting for screen protectors to up sensitivity. i have a screen protector on my samsung tablet with an s pen and dont have issues using it

i did not play pokemon ranger, what is it about that game that requires such precision and led to scratching the screen?

[honest slate]

Not precision so much as rapid frantic movement

[lilac cobalt]

yeah, these handhelds are a tiny fraction of sales vs. corporate nintendo devices

nintendo probably sells more switches per day than they do for an entire product life

[errant dome]

meanwhile, microsoft in japan is selling below XD https://www.vgchartz.com/article/465607/switch-best-seller-as-sales-top-7m-worldwide-hardware-estimates-for-july-2025/

[lilac cobalt]

ouch xbox below switch 1

[sacred gorge]

you have draw circles to capture pokemon

[errant dome]

i googled and am watching this, i see the frantic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEZWhq9HAco

[sacred gorge]

and really really fast too

[vapid rain]

Yeah, as someone with fine motor problems, I found Ranger really hard x3
Don’t think I ever got past the beginning portions as a kid

[errant dome]

nintendo creating games to accelerate planned obsolescence

[river salmon]

Wtf does this even mean lol

[honest slate]

Early game it's fine but by late game you're getting a wrist workout and a half

[torpid reef]

yeah pokemon ranger was legitimately difficult to play, especially if you're conscious about not fucking up your touch screen 😭

[vapid rain]

I’m assuming they’re referring to what Nintendo does now with the quote on quote “physical” game-key cards + digital

[errant dome]

planned obsolescence is when companies make products that will break and are hard to repair. like say a washing machine with non standard parts that will breakdown in 5 years

i was just joking cause here someone said that kids were scratching up their ds' playing that game

[river salmon]

As opposed to cardboard with a code on it yippie

[vapid rain]

[river salmon]

We know what planned obsolescence is 😭😭😭

I leave reddit to try an escape the arm chair dictionaries but theyre HERE TOO

[errant dome]

you just said wtf does that mean, i wasnt clear which part that referred to

i cant read your mind!

[river salmon]

Oh, well, referring to the unclear statement on Nintendo

[torpid reef]

one could argue that Pokemon Ranger was literally created to damage DS touch screens which leads to even more revenue for Nintendo than just the game would

[honest slate]

Much like how pokemon dungeon was made to wear the battery out with it's 99 floor towers

[errant dome]

wii bowling was a secret contract between nintendo and tv makers to sell more TVs

[balmy vortex]

Huh...? I missed something.

[torpid reef]

people throwing their wiimotes at their TVs, breaking them, needing new ones

[errant dome]

my references are too high level for this channel

[torpid reef]

"you need a very high iq to understand my references" 😂

[errant dome]

honestly, just average

[kind saffron]

Hopefully a maker will just license emr

It's the only thing that'd come close to the original experience

And I def don't want to go back to resistive

[balmy vortex]

I only threw the wiimote once. It was at extreme high velocity, bit no damage. Never used the stupid wrist straps.

[wheat creek]

make sure to wear your seatbelts

[kind saffron]

I mean I was older so didn't play while foaming at the mouth. Some of my cousins tho...

[errant dome]

the one game that tested me was boom blox, game was so fun but really had you whipping that wii mote

[hidden hollow]

OG Mario Party with that helicopter mini game that smoked analogue sticks

And your palms

[steady ingot]

And Nintendo had to send people gloves to wear

[jolly wadi]

I love the glove. It’s so bad.

[hidden hollow]

I didn't know about the glove! That's wild

[jaunty hull]

the steamdeck, which is arguably one of the most successful devices put out by any company that isnt the big 3. did 6 million in sales. and thats a lot less niche than these devices and still a tiny drop in the bucket. lol

[jaunty hull]

no. but there are a few capacitive compatible universal styluses that arent half bad. the powered ones are decent. the big rubber tip ones suck tho. and theres also the plastic disc ones that seem ok ish.

[flint pumice]

Anyone plan to join the Thor game event?

Somehow I can’t forward that message from Ayn server: #1407307317137117299 message

The prices included 4 Thors! It’s so tempting but I know I don’t have the skills to win

It will probably be fun at least

[snow palm]

To be fair I think it's better than it was in the 360 times.

I never had issue with the ds screen scratching or anything the only thing ironically is that on my og ds the hinge snapped.

[limpid belfry]

my game where i was worried about damaging the screen was Elite Beat Agents

i don’t know if that game is even playable on modern touchscreens

[torpid canyon]

Yes but I’ll get destroyed

[mellow phoenix]

I was at the Odin 2 Game night, and despite being brand new to stumble guys I still ended up with multiple podium finishes that night

[torpid canyon]

You‘re naturally gifted though

I saw your Celeste runs

[mellow phoenix]

Stumble Guys is 3D though

[torpid canyon]

Yeah I played a few rounds and the movement is funny

Especially on slippy surfaces

[mellow phoenix]

Fall Guys but better

[left kiln]

Ban hacked the game

[mellow phoenix]

No u

[placid vortex]

Im strictly fall guys. Probably gonna play some stumble guys to get familiar with courses

[fluid cloak]

I was out yesterday so im gonna be annoying and bring up the same argument lol but especially for RPGs the DS/PSP era games were way better than 3DS/Vita ones

I say that as someone who was playing all of em nonstop, vita from launch strongest soldier

[vast ibex]

The Vita had JRPGs?

only half joking

It's basically just Gust and Falcom for more traditional JRPGs, and a random smattering of other minor RPGs.

[languid yarrow]

Hi, in practice, for which emulated system will 8gb make a difference (vs 6) ?

[vast ibex]

Basically just Wii U, Switch, PS3, and Windows, from what I understand.

[languid yarrow]

… which is what the 8g2 allows, right ? So is the 8g2+8go the better balanced ?

[sacred gorge]

If you have any interest in the high end as listed above, I'd go for 12 GB as minimum

[languid yarrow]

F@:€;!k 😉 Too expensive

[sacred gorge]

If you never plan on the high end stuff, 8gb is just fine

[vast ibex]

There's always RAM swap I guess? No clue if that thing actually works.

[sacred gorge]

RAM swap is too slow imo

[vast ibex]

I'm personally a Wii/PS2 and down kinda guy, so I don't really mess with those high end stuff.

My RAM usage is mostly from texture packs.

[languid yarrow]

I’m tempted by Switch as the SoC probably handles that OK. No interest in PS3. Will 8Gb be a bottleneck with the 8g2 ?

[steady ingot]

As rough as the touch screen could be for it, I worry more about latency. Parappa and the like can be real difficult to play already on emulation.

[limpid belfry]

sure, no doubt. that’s a whole separate issue. but has the problem of modern touch screens ever really been solved when emulating DS and 3DS?

[gilded pecan]

mostly no, 95% of switch will run on 8GB just fine

there are some edge cases like TotK that require more RAM, but these are rare

that being said: keep your expectations in check, Switch emulation is far from perfect

it's not plug and play like Dolphin or AetherSX2, games will randomly crash or fail to load frequently

[steady ingot]

Last I checked Fire Emblem was also a weird edge case too, right? Runs like crap on just about everything?

[sand sundial]

you mean fire emblem 3 houses?

[icy atlas]

Even if 3 Houses runs 100% it's still 3 Houses, I don't know why a person would subject themselves to that

[steady ingot]

.. because it's a great game?

And yes, talking about three houses. I remember reading it was weirdly hard to emulate, but it's been a while since I looked in to it

[jaunty hull]

last good FE game was Tear Ring Saga /s

[upper sail]

Because it’s a fun game that people like?

[jaunty hull]

im sure there are ppl that unironically dont like FE after kaga left lol.

[upper sail]

How are we still doing the “I don’t get why people like this thing when I personally think it’s so obviously shit” bit?

[steady ingot]

Because some folks can't let other people like stuff.

It's very dumb

Like.. I dislike Souls games including Elden Ring, but I get their appeal and I think they're great games that are very much not for me.

[lament stone]

I refer to these as "good jelly not my jam"

[steady ingot]

At the same time, I absolutely adore Alpha Protocol. It's an objectively broken game with massive bugs that barely holds itself together, but I love every second of it.

[gentle notch]

You won't dislike Peak Souls 3

[jaunty hull]

broken game with massive bugs? so......new vegas? lol

[steady ingot]

Both are Obsidian games, yeah.;)

[jaunty hull]

ah so another case of them getting rushed to make unrealistic deadlines again? lol.

reminds me of Kotor 2 as well lol

alternatively I coulda made a joke about Grounded 1 and 2 having lots of big bugs. lol

[devout forge]

Would future linux support mean you can have screen at 120hz while the bottom screen is turned on?

[lilac cobalt]

Quite possibly

[gentle notch]

Maybe, but then the number of use cases for that 120 hz also kind of goes down

[fluid cloak]

Im glad it wasnt just me, parappa was near impossible on emulator without using rewind the entire time for me

[devout forge]

120hz has lower latency, now you can use the bottom screen for multitasking while playing something that utilizes 120hz on the top

[gentle notch]

Yeah I guess

[fluid cloak]

Which is weird because i can usually play shmups fine on emulator i'd think those are lag sensitive

[devout forge]

60hz screens are mostly fine

but when you use 60hz mode on 120hz devices there seems to be lag introduced that wouldn't otherwise be present of a 60hz screen

Idk if it's true for all android devices

but sofar all I've ever used had this

[wispy fjord]

Isn't Parappa just also infamous for having very tight windows?

[fluid cloak]

Possibly, i really wouldnt know

considering it's such an early rhythm game maybe they didnt realize how hard they made it lol

I usually play most that i like at the highest difficulty but it humbled me with all the misses and bad scores

[wispy fjord]

Yeah no, it is definitely not an easy one

[gilded pecan]

this is incorrect, you can't have both screens active at 120hz

at the moment it's either two screens at 60hz, or top screen only at 120hz

(Android limitation, both the Pocket DS and Thor suffer from this, it's unclear if it can be addressed)

[errant dome]

gamma may rescue us from this

[left kiln]

They're referring to the possibility of Linux allowing for 120hz on top when both screens are on.

[gilded pecan]

oh alright, my bad, carry on then

[kind saffron]

That's just because the bottom screen maxed at 60 tho right? I would assume if both were 120 you could do both (not saying that's the case where). Just that they have to be equal?

[gilded pecan]

on Android yeah, I believe that's the case that they just have to match

[lilac cobalt]

Yup that’s androids limitation.

Like the surface phone had dual 90hz screens iirc

[rugged orchid]

My problem with that game was that I couldn't really follow the plot at all. My English isn't all that bad, but somehow I have a really hard time to follow stories that involve politics.

Also, similar to L.A. Noire my dialog choices often didn't reflect what I actually expected them to say.

I'm going through a list on metacritic of the best PC games that came out before 2006 to see what I could try on the Thor.

[lilac cobalt]

Dreamfall

[steady ingot]

I didn't realize that was another title for The Longest Journey but yeah, that's a great game

[rugged orchid]

I only played a few hours of The Longest Journey before giving up, but that's definitely a game I want to try out.

Already have 50 games in my Ayn Thor list. Love making lists for new handhelds. 😆

[steady ingot]

That's too many. You should put ten on it.

Then you're not overwhelmed when you start playing. Otherwise you're never gonna play anything! 🙂

[vast ibex]

Pretty subjective imo. I think there's room for the middle ground of "put literal entire console catalogs on your console" and "put a raisin and a cracker on your console".

[vapid rain]

Yeah, I’m planning on curating the games I have on my SP as J think I have too many, but I also want to try games I’ve never played once in a while

[frigid shore]

Put all the games ever made, but then actually use the favourites menu to curate a handful at a time. 🙃

[vast ibex]

Hm. Might actually need to get a bigger SD card soon.

With all the 3DS games I'd want to toss onto a Thor, the 1TB card I have in my Odin 2 Mini might not cut it. It "only" has 175GB left on it.

[low lake]

reminds me i need to go through some QoL pokemon hacks for nds/3ds 😄

too used to just gba ones or switch ones

[fringe temple]

"only" 😄

[elder wing]

Blaze Black 2 Redux and Renegade Plat are obvious choices from me, especially Blaze Black/Volt White 2 Redux

[elder wing]

Man the progress on proper dual-screen gaming on android is crazy

[low lake]

tbh i am mostly looking for simple QoL (that allows the catching all and other ways for trade evolutons and similarstuff ) but ones that doesnt increase difficulty

as lots of those do increase difficulty

[elder wing]

Fair fair

[low lake]

but havent really researched the "NDS/3DS" era titles

will be my first times

was aůso just kinda surprised even the switch ones have such mod (Crowned/Armored for Sw/Sh, Compass for Vi/Sc , enhanced for letsgo) and not just luminous platinum for bdsp (that one does increase difficultym but also has submod to return diff to vanilla)

[rocky sinew]

Yeah I haven’t really looked into 3DS Pokemon romhacks but I’m curious

[wispy fjord]

3ds romhacks aren't super mature atm. GBA has so many because they've basically been cracked open; DS is kinda getting there; 3DS only really allows for more basic editing like encounters and fights and such.

[wispy fjord]

I will say, "bdsm" is very different from "bdsp"

[low lake]

oh ... lol

[rocky sinew]

Good to know

[wispy fjord]

BDSP is, though! Right now it's just Luminescent Platinum because we are still building tools to shortcut all the stuff we have to do the long way, but the stuff we can do is frankly wild.

[upper sail]

Thank you ILCA for making the remakes in Unity.

[wispy fjord]

Thank ILCA every day

[elder wing]

Thank you ILCA for this glorious gift

[low lake]

tbh i am kinda building myself a way to replay whole series trhough some mostly vanila+ hacks (stuff like no version difference, everything catchable , no need for trading ... and i don't mind slight diff change) for when Thor arrives

so far my plan is
Gens:
Thunder Yellow - Polished Crystal - Emerald Seaglass - Refined Platinum - Blaze Black 1+2 - Eternal X - Nova + Supernova Sun - Crowned Sword - Compass
Remakes:
RadicalRed - Storm Silver - Rising Ruby - Luminous Platinum - Enhanced Eevee

[kind saffron]

Need to save this list. Lol

[low lake]

tbh its not finallized 😄

[kind saffron]

When you do hit me up. Haha

[wispy fjord]

I like that! I had similar ideas. Despite being a co-owner of LumiPlat, I'm not huge on difficulty mods. I'm not sure I consider Lumi super difficult unless you don't engage with the mechanics, but man. I do prefer Vanilla+. I might steal this list.

[kind saffron]

I've tried going back and playing stock and I just can't do it. For basically the entire series. Games have just come too far

[wispy fjord]

Everyone here should try LumiPlat on the Thor, though. 8Gen2 versions should run it no problem.

[icy atlas]

Most Pokemon difficulty hacks I've seen are just "and then the youngster sends out a choice scarf pseudo that sweeps your whole party

[elder wing]

I mainly enjoy the Vanilla+ Hacks, along with stuff like Renegade Plat, Black Black 2 Redux, and difficulty hacks that aren't like.... insanity hard

[wispy fjord]

Things where you don't just "hit button and win" are nice, but it's so very difficult to balance that.

[low lake]

tbh its kinda quikly slapped together from like a hour of reseach as i am procrastinating from ironing 😄 .... but its good starting point

[elder wing]

Part of the reason I love BB2 Redux is that you can choose the level of difficulty you want thanks to how B2/W2 had the difficulty system (they give you the keys off rip thank god)

[kind saffron]

Don't suppose there's any that add depth 😆?

Pokemon need talent trees. All I'm saying

[low lake]

oh might switch gen5 to that

[elder wing]

Only if you overhall the entire system. Rn, hell no

[low lake]

will see still at least 2 months before thor gets to me

[icy atlas]

I mean that's kind of part of the issue right

Pokemon doesn't actually lend itself super well to in depth single player gameplay

PvP is balanced halfway decently but only in isolation. A route full of pvp battles is like a death sentence on my patience

At least for the concept of "losing = game over"

You could do a hack where trainers are all difficult in their own right if fainted Pokemon were revived after battle, or where you didn't black out and "lose" for not beating the other guy

[low lake]

tbh i love tho kinds
-the vanila+ hacks - mainly for the QoL stuff + stuff wheree i dont need to do the trading or care for version different

• ** the wild game alterig ones** - like Super Mariomon, FireRed Rocked edition, Ubound or just silly Moemons

-as for difficulty i am fine with slight increase (like Lumi or Drayano hacks) as original games tend to get suoer easy ... but "Kaizo" hacks are too crazy

[elder wing]

I don't touch Kaizo hacks

At qll

[kind saffron]

I guess? In the end all your doing is changing ability and stats. I mean yeah, everything would need to be rebalanced

[elder wing]

Pokemon, Mario, any other game, I fucking don't touch Kaizo hacks

[low lake]

oh lol apparently Radical Red is kaizo .... time to find better FireRed choice

[elder wing]

Radical red is a choosw your own difficulty one as well where you can choose Kaizo mode or Vanilla

Or anything in between

[low lake]

oh so should still work

my thor is gonna be ultimate pokemon romhack machine

[sacred gorge]

I'm still waiting for Aurora Crystal

Drayano's new hack for Heart Gold Soul Silver

[low lake]

oh nice

yeah by the time i get to remakes ... its probably be out

anyway the current list is good start ... will try to research properly for each gen when Thor is closer .

[elder wing]

I FORGOT THAT WAS A THING XD

[sacred gorge]

eh maybe

he takes his time

[low lake]

Was kinda messing around with the switch romhacks on my SWOLED all morning (Lumi, Eevee enhanced, Crowned Sword, Compass)

So was kinda in the mood to just plan the whiole series for Thor's arrival 😄 ... || instead of doing home chores ||

[elder wing]

Drayano hacks are pretty much my sweet spot among most Pokémon ROM Hacks. Difficult enough to pose more of a challenge, but fun enough, and adds more content to expand my enjoyment of the game

[low lake]

will be fun

[elder wing]

Maaan, I don't need the Thor, but im hard considering it aaaaa

[limpid belfry]

finally preordered. we’ll see what happens with tariffs i guess!

[upper sail]

Yeah, I’m not even gonna lie I ended up paying off the rest of the Pocket DS payment way sooner than I even expected, so I’m unironically starting to consider pre-ordering the Thor as well (where depending on which one I prefer, I’d just sell the other).

[elder wing]

From what Im hearing, courts recently blocked many of them, but the ones in effect are delayed till October

But im not gonna touch that hell horse

[wispy fjord]

Join us

[limpid belfry]

||maybe it will have happened by then||

not that that would have any effect on the tariffs in the short term

[elder wing]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-bart-simpson-join-us-sit-here-gif-15631014

[gentle notch]

👀

[limpid belfry]

👀

[worn monolith]

This is what I'm doing, especially seeing the work Ayaneo is putting in on the software side. Get both, see which one I like better, sell the other

[elder wing]

They also already gave a dev unit to the Rocknix devs for offical Linux support

[worn monolith]

And MelonDS dev

[elder wing]

They're dead serious about having this be successful

[worn monolith]

Sure feels that way. I don't know if Ayn is going to bother putting the same effort into their software.

[red cairn]

Do any other ayaneo devices work with rocknix?

[upper sail]

They did, but it wasn’t easy getting O2 Mini support.

[red cairn]

Also wonder if they need too. Everyone keeps saying they're the same company. If melon ds and rocknix work on the ayaneo ds it should work on the thor

[upper sail]

Oh shit I thought you were talking about Ayn.

[red cairn]

Yeah getting confused on who's sending who what

[upper sail]

Yeah, in regards to AYANEO they do currently support Rocknix on the Pocket Ace and I’m pretty sure there’s work being done for the Pocket DMG and Pocket EVO.

[red cairn]

What was wrong with the mini? Micro led screen?

[upper sail]

Yup, it was really difficult figuring out how to get that working.

[red cairn]

Makes sense. I bought an early OLED laptop and brightness was wack in linux

I'm pretty melon ds and rocknix tweaks will be applicable to any dual screen device

[elder wing]

Yep

[red cairn]

Oh heah I'm watching retro game corps review on it and this is pog. Also sick that the keyboard is bluetooth cause you could plug it into a tv and use the keyboard from a couch

[sacred gorge]

Do we know if the rocknix support for the new Odin 2 chip or if it's adapting the RP5 865 version for the thor

I don't think the rocknix devs have said if it was for the newer chip

[elder wing]

The 8 gen 2 already has Rocknix support, so it wouldn't be hard at all

So does the 865

[upper sail]

You mean the 8 Gen 2? Given it’s the base model, I’d expect them to have sent that version, with support for the Thor Lite basically just being planned as them porting the software specifically needed for Thor’s screens (and controls if that’s any different from Retroid’s) to their SD865 image.

[elder wing]

Hell the Lite might have an advantage since like the RP5/Mini/Flip 2, you can/might be able to install it into the internal storage

[wispy fjord]

It's too bad the Pocket DS is so expensive.

Maybe someday someone will send me a handheld for my work in..... modding Pokémon

[wispy fjord]

[upper sail]

This is the person who made the MelonDualDS fork and is currently working on dual screen support for both Cemu and PPSSPP in case this wasn’t clear.

[low lake]

yes @whole linden

[left kiln]

heusos is the hero we need, not the one we deserve

[kind saffron]

Yeah. Have actually done this already several times. Touch keyboard is also super useful in game. Typing anything with a joystick is pain

[wispy fjord]

I'm glad there seems to be push and competition for this kind of thing.

Has Huesos considered a Nether fork that has the options screen on one of the displays, perhaps? Or extra touch overlay buttons for like fast forward or save states etc

[upper sail]

Unfortunately the main reason for MelonDS, Azahar, Cemu, and PPSSPP were getting simple enough forks is due to them all being open source, so I’m not sure they’d be able to easily implement it into Nether due to the state of Aethersx2.

Although, maybe they could work with Trixarian to figure out something?

[wispy fjord]

Trixian has a github for it and it's now a prebuilt apk, so probably

Reaching out to see if it's possible would be awesome

[whole linden]

Aswell Azahar, expect a fork release and a PR to the main code today!

[wispy fjord]

Please link us here when you do! I'd love to set a watch on it in github!

[whole linden]

https://github.com/azahar-emu/azahar/pull/1341

[wispy fjord]

Thank you!

[whole linden]

Azahar v0.0.1 is now available!

This first public release adds full support for dual-screen Android devices, tested on the Ayaneo Pocket DS 🎮

What’s new:

External screen no longer steals input focus from the main emulator
Touch input now works on the external display
Touch events are fully wired into the native core via JNI

This sets the stage for powerful dual-screen emulation.

Download:
https://github.com/SapphireRhodonite/azahar/releases/tag/0.0.1

PR:
https://github.com/azahar-emu/azahar/pull/1341

[rocky sinew]

That’s so neat. I do hope Cemu gets something better soon too

[wispy fjord]

They'll get there.

This is the guy doing that fork.

[ocean pumice]

Want to upgrade from my RP5 and this honestly seems great for portability/pocketability. I might get it not even for the dual screen but we'll see how KONKR goes

[wide thorn]

See, I'm thinking about getting the RP5/dual-screen add-on for the better screen-ratio. I want to like the Thor, but the lower screen being so small is going to affect a couple of my favorite games.

[ocean pumice]

That's fair, I'm not a huge DS gamer so I was more intrigued by pocketability and power anyhow
I can see it being a big detriment especially with such things like 3DS games, considering how big the 3DS XL was

[low lake]

3ds mostly use the second screen for menu and stuff. ,max minigames

adn even on DS there is not that many

there are sonics , contra 4, some dragon quests to extend exploration and few arcadey stuff that use it as "tate mode" verticality (arkanoid ds, few pinballs, poketetris)

[gritty tusk]

Get a surface duo if the screen ratio is a concern and you don’t already own an RP5. It’ll be near the same chipset in performance and you’ll get two display so the same 5.6” size in native aspect ratio of DS at 4:3, and both OLED.

[low lake]

heh surface duo here is like 4 times the price of rp5+rda

or some super borked ones with near ded battery for 200ish €

[gritty tusk]

If in USA, it’s near same price as RP5 + DS add-on. If in China, it’s cheaper or near same price as RP5

[red cairn]

Idk, it cant be bigger cause the controller would stick out weird. The bottom screen is still bigger than the ds and probably the 3ds, i haven't checked

[sacred gorge]

I'd say two 16:9 screens is worse screen ratio tbh

a 4:3 (or something close like this) is way better for ds and 3ds

[wide thorn]

That would cost twice as much as an RP5 w/dual-screen though? They seem to start at $600+.

[gritty tusk]

Nah, I and others on the marketplace here have listed Duo 1 for $260-$300. Even sold a Duo 2 for $300 and purchased a few for $300-$400.

You could likely find around same on FB marketplace.

[sacred gust]

Main Azahar wasn't compatible with external screen?

[whole linden]

Yes, but it has a lot of bugs in devices where the main screen is the top one

[sacred gust]

Will the changes be integrated back to main eventually? Or do you plan to release a version with parity to the main when there are updates?

[wispy fjord]

They submitted a "pull request" which is like trying to hand it back to the main branch to be integrated

It's up to the Azahar maintainers now

[whole linden]

My forks are intended to always get to the main code. I make fork releases only to let people help me test!, the lastest link is the PR one

[wispy fjord]

Do you have any insight on if your MelonDS branch will be integrated to main? Has it already been done for previous and I'm blind?

[whole linden]

Yup, I have a PR aswell, the main developer make son suggestion to make it to the main code, I will make that changes in the week

[wispy fjord]

That's exciting! Take your time, but it's great news.

[prime pivot]

thanks for taking your time to make this a reality.

[proud ore]

och, now i dont know what to do… i have now Ayn Odin 2 portal and i want have and more portable/smaller thing, i quite confused which is better for that: Ayn Thor or Ayn Odin 3? I mostly playing Switch emulation, Winlator games, Android games and sometimes emulations of smaller consoles.

[left kiln]

If switch is a requirement you dont want the Elite

[low lake]

or maybe wait it out for a year to see if drivrer appear

[left kiln]

Or this. If you have a portal you're already doing well

[proud ore]

ok, understand, thanks for information

Yes, portal is amazing, but i want to have one, which is smaller and i cant add to my small shoulder bag.

[left kiln]

The Thor is way smaller, albeit thicker, and you know what youre getting with the 8g2 so if you want switch that would be the way to go. Its the reason im choosing the Thor over the Odin 3

[snow palm]

its all up to preference really, id pick the thor, just because its alot more portable, like you can guiltfree just put them in your pocket or bag without worrying the screen scratches up or the joysticks will mend.

[devout forge]

Crazy to think the thor seems to be the first actually pocketable switch emulation handheld at the moment

[left kiln]

I cant wait for it

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-cant-wait-impatient-anxious-eagerly-gif-12243170376163390127

[fringe temple]

far more exciting than the Odin 3 anyway

[devout forge]

Yeah, not looking forward to 8 elite

it seems like a marketing gimick as of now tbh

[fringe temple]

thankfully we have this lovely thing that we call free will and not needing to buy every new device 😄

[left kiln]

The Elite ruined my interest but I was always likely going to the Thor. A dual screen clamshell is too good to pass on for me

[devout forge]

Honestly I think I would love it even if it didn't have a 2nd screen

what not to love at a pocketable 8 gen 2 clamshell?

[left kiln]

Exactly!!

[fringe temple]

insanely good price too

[devout forge]

I really don't want to disregard any of the other formfactor fans but clamshells are objectively the best ones. The most screen size in the smallest area possible. The only disadvantage they have is that they are usually thicker than horizontals or verticals

well this only matters if you care about pocketability to be fair

but it is something very important to me personally

[analog arch]

Which for me, is the most important factor
I'm very tempted to sell my Odin Mini for this thing, it looks so much better than I expected. And the price is surprisingly reasonable.

[fringe temple]

this should be the better pick by far

provided hinges hold up, of course

[analog arch]

...the hinges on my RP Flip 1 actually still are going surprisingly strong. A little loose though lol.

Hopefully with this one it'll be way better than that one though it has a lot of other issues lol

[devout forge]

yeah hinges.. rp flip 2 hinges are already failing no?

[proud ore]

for me, biggest plus for Odin3 is ergonomic, i have now Ayn Odin 2 Portal and Retroid Flip2 and Odin2 Portal with Ayn grip so good feeling and comfortable. Next level to play comfortable. By this reason i really have hard time to choose between Thor and Odi 3

[devout forge]

I don't get why they cheap out on the hinges, it is by far the most important part of a clamshell

[analog arch]

If you're looking for comfort, Odin 3. If you're looking for Pocketability and playing DS games much better, Thor

[tidal peak]

not only this, clamshells also protect screens better and help with posture like verticals. the only thing that suffers is the dpad centric gaming

unless you get a grip, which changes the shape of the device, and maybe portability

[devout forge]

I don't think it suffers so be honest, my dsi xl works comfortably with it's dpad centric position

[tidal peak]

but i guess that thor with grip and case is smaller than odin2 with case

and they are ticker only when closed

O2 is 17mm tick at the thinnest and 30mm on the grips

[analog arch]

I am curious as to the battery life
Is Dual Screen gonna be painful for that or worthwhile?

[frigid shore]

Kind of?
There's some circumstantial claims that they might've been due to the massive heatwave around the time all the reports came in.
Constant fluctuating temperature stress from high heat areas and cold A/C'd areas could've weakened the failure point on the hinge.
This would be something that Retroid's stress testing wouldn't catch.

I'm curious if there have been any more regularly reported failures.

As for myself, my pre-ordered black Flip 2 is still fine and it gets used daily.

Hopefuly AYN takes steps from all of this to do better, but still having a 90 degree point on the hinge shell is a bit worrying.

[devout forge]

why aren't anbernic hinges breaking then?

[frigid shore]

I think they were for a time. They're definitely on a V2 design.

[devout forge]

it does worry about the long term durability of these devices

for a lot of people the thor is the ultimate handheld

which means they might not want to upgrade for even 5-6 years

would the hinge really survive for that long?

[frigid shore]

Well, luckily AYN is giving a 1-year warranty stated on their sales page.

I don't personally know how shady they might be in trying to claim user-caused damage so someone else will have to comment.

[upper sail]

They were, the whole point of the V2 SP’s were to both improve the buttons and the hinges since not only did they just not feel great, but a decent number of them were also cracking (at least I specifically remember a lot of their transparent SP’s cracking). In fact, I feel like I remember there being the same number of “reports without pictures” on them cracking as the Flip 2, it’s just that the RG35XX SP was insanely more popular.

[gritty tusk]

Also clamshells typically sacrifice ergos compared to candy car (moot point with add-on grip) and also small joysticks / range of motion.

[devout forge]

I don't really like built in grips all that much

if you really want comfort isn't it better to have the option to switch between using a grip and not using it?

[gritty tusk]

Yep, which I prefer as well a flat for portability with add-on grip

Unlike ayaneo pocket ds

[devout forge]

like the rp mini is so chonky, it could be really thin but it's like 32mm thick

[frigid shore]

I don't think clamshells inherently sacrifice ergos, that's more from DS style ones with a second screen that limit space for controls.
Much like candy bar ones that aren't wide enough on the sides.

[devout forge]

eh, to be fair the triggers would also mess with the pocketability

I've never pocketed a device with a trigger so I don't really know how impactful it is

[frigid shore]

If you don't have big/loose pockets they can catch on the lip which is a bit annoying.

Either the triggers or the protruding analogs.

[devout forge]

yeah exactly, it's not like horizontals or vericals don't tend to sacrifice comfort for pocketability

[gritty tusk]

I wish thor had in-line triggers

[devout forge]

some have wider controls, some are more squished together

[gritty tusk]

While still retaining analog / linear

[devout forge]

the wii classic controller had that no?

inline analog triggers

[frigid shore]

I mean, the stacked shoulder mods for the RG353/405 prove you can have stacked shoulders without having a bump.

I think the RP2 also had stacked shoulders with minimal bumpage?

[devout forge]

Honestly all my main problems with this device are inheretly subjective and personal taste, it really speaks of how good it overall is

[frigid shore]

The preference between analog/dpad top/bottom will mean no device will ever be universally perfect, ahaha.

[devout forge]

well there's a few ideas that can fix that

[frigid shore]

Well, until a swapping mechanism is made that doesn't need a thick handheld to work.

[devout forge]

modular dpad and analog stick swapping mechanism and a trigger attachment that connects with pins and locks itself onto the device

would significantly raise prices though

[frigid shore]

Think Ayaneo had a device like that?
But their solution was super dumb since the modular part was a dpad/analog single part instead of individual ones to just swap.

Like, it was a dpad/analog part and an analog/dpad part so you had to carry both around if you wanted to swap.

[devout forge]

the best modular concepts are the ones where you don't have to screw in anything and you can swap the placements on the fly with magnets

no need to carry around extra accesories

[frigid shore]

Was the biggest "but why" moment I had when I saw them reveal it.

Like, why.

[devout forge]

yeah pretty stupid

but it's still innovate, and one of a kind kinda deal I guess

main problem I have with modular controllers is that they are usually so expensive that it's more worth it to just buy 2 seperate controllers

one with analog on top and other with dpad on top

[frigid shore]

A company needs to take the Switch/Legion Go route and just sell a body unit and control units separately.

Let customers decide which controller layout they want.

[devout forge]

I am still flabberghasted how the switch after 8 years of it's existence still doesn't have a dpad on top joycon

yet other gimicky products exist such as almost unusably bad controllers

[frigid shore]

...huh, yeah, is there even an option from 3rd parties?

[devout forge]

nope

nothing

[frigid shore]

I know there are third party joycons with a real dpad on the left instead of buttons.

Seems like a wild miss.

[devout forge]

you can connect an nes controller they sold for switch online that technically has the dpad on the top

but it doesn't have a trigger

so why even bother

[upper sail]

Even the NES “Joycons” have the D-pad on the bottom for the left side due to the fact that they’re NES controllers with Joycon rails (so why screw over the guy using the left Joycon by making it with the D-Pad on the left side?).

[frigid shore]

I think Ice was right, the dpad is technically on top from the official image.

I mean, it'd be wild for anyone to actually use them like this.

[upper sail]

Oh wait, I completely brain farted on how the layout would work.

Ok yeah nevermind, guess that is an option for people who want D-Pad on top (assuming you can mix and match them with a right Joycon so that you have full buttons on the right side and d-pad on top for the left).

[frigid shore]

I just saw the price of these and threw up a little 😂

[analog arch]

Man
I'm not sure whether I'd want the Pro or the Base model lol

IDK how much the RAM difference actually matters is the main thing, I'd like to emulate some of my switch games but idk if that's worth the extra price?

[upper sail]

Honestly, I’m just planning on getting the Max if I do get a Thor, since I don’t care about the difference between 12 and 16Gb of RAM, but I absolutely care about the difference between 256GB and 1TB of internal storage.

[left kiln]

The storage is why I want the max 😅

[frigid shore]

Same, the RAM is a bonus.

[fringe temple]

yeah the price increase of the max isn't bad given more ram and 4x internal storage

[sacred gorge]

Cheaper to get the Max than it is to buy a Pro + 1tb SD card

[fringe temple]

yep

esp here in UK 😄

[frigid shore]

Has there been proper footage of clear purple in real life yet?
Hopefully one gets sent out as a review unit.

[analog arch]

That's an incredibly fair point
I'm in a weird spot where idk whether to go Base or Max then lol.

[hybrid mulch]

The price increase of max is justified imo but overkill for me personally. 512 storage would be more than enough for me

[analog arch]

I mostly play PS2 games myself so the storage is actually nice.

[vapid rain]

I’m not the only one here who keeps devices for a long time, am I?
Still want the Odin 3 alongside a Thor and planning to keep both for 5-7+ years.
I’m not getting the Thor for a while either to see how hinge holds up. Will wait on Odin 3 as well for potential driver support

[analog arch]

I'm still using my RP Flip 1 for a lot of games, hinge is loose but still works.

[vast ibex]

I haven't even been in the hobby for 3 years.

I've cycled through handhelds somewhat quickly. Started with the RG35XX in June 2023.

Though until then I had mostly just used hacked OEM handhelds like the New 3DS XL or Vita.

[vapid rain]

I went from an R36S to a 35XX SP very quickly, but only bc the former’s speaker died on me

[snow palm]

I keep devices for a life time they go in my collection. Actually usage? Maybe a month or so haha

[analog arch]

Honestly it's weird but Android Handhelds I've been bouncing around which I prefer tbh, whereas PC and Linux were 1 and done. I tried out the Ayaneo Air 1S for a while but have been less than impressed compared to the steam deck and just went back to the SD lol.

[upper sail]

True, but the issue is that they don’t have 512Gb as an option, it’s just 128gb/256gb/1tb.

[vapid rain]

I don’t think people would mind a slight price increase on Thor Pro too much for 512gb

[upper sail]

I don’t either, the problem is that when we tried asking, they didn’t even try doing a poll to see if the majority of people would be fine with it or not.

[analog arch]

I think 256 is a weird spot for the Pro, it's close to base while not being that much less expensive than the Max.

[vast ibex]

I don't really play Android games, so most of the internal storage is lost on me anyway tbh.

I wouldn't mind an internal storage bump but eh.

[gentle notch]

Price ladder go brrr

[vapid rain]

I’m moreso concerned about 3DS updates

[gentle notch]

Pro model should've been like $370 with 12+512. The price increases for each tier would've been more consistent and you wouldn't need to pay more for the max model

[vapid rain]

Those go on internal

[hybrid mulch]

The difference is like 10 sf2000 tho

[sacred gorge]

If you play stuff like Vita and above, the emulators stores cache in the internal memory

[analog arch]

Also I definitely need to sell my other handhelds at this point lol
Selling on here is usually pretty chill right? I've had a good experience buying.

[sacred gorge]

Unless something completely replaces an experience, I don't really sell

Like I sold my RP5 because I was getting a Thor and the Odin 2 Mini was my "psp" style handheld anyway

But I've kept everything besides thta

[analog arch]

I've got too many similar handhelds is my problem, 3 overlapping with 1 I'm very ambivalent about lol

[snow palm]

That's why I only buy "gimmick" handhelds haha

[fringe temple]

i have this issue now too 😄

I have been picking up odder devices this year

[analog arch]

Yeahhhh the Thor is likely to replace my whole range because I've found I prefer Clamshells and Nice Screens but want the power of the Odin 2 Mini lol.

[low lake]

i have been basically doing the "consolidation and upgradeathon" since the start of the year

so i sold quite a bunch of "worse in same usecase" devices

but i also added some weird new ones 😄 (retrochicken, thor, zero40)

so the overall number didnt shrink as much as i expcted

[fading anvil]

I ate shit during the Thor giveaway yesterday 💀

got a notif during the game and it froze

[analog arch]

For me I've found I actually just like Generalist devices that can kinda do it all while being pocketable
Thor (on paper) knocks that out of the park

[gilded pecan]

me every time I sell handhelds

[analog arch]

I honestly just need to commit to selling
IDK why it just makes me nervous I feel like so much can go wrong selling online lol

[fading anvil]

I'm in the process of selling my rp mini and it's hell

I secured an offer with a buyer only for them to ego me

[gilded pecan]

let's fix that

[analog arch]

That's what I'm nervous about
I'm tempted to sell on Facebook Marketplace and just eat the amount of time it'll cost to sell.

[snow palm]

Generally I like clamshells for portability, and honestly I feel you could use the Thor as some weird kind of main Android device for messaging people and browsing .

[devout forge]

idk why you wouldn't use your phone for that

[snow palm]

But when I'm in bed or relaxing I prefer like vertical handhelds, they so great for crawling up and just gaming. or even playing RPGs one handed while eating stuff of stuff.

[devout forge]

as a media device I think the thor is somewhat understandable

6 inch screen is still rare among phones when viewing 16:9 content

but my phone is 5.4 inches when viewing 16:9 content

so the difference is noticable I guess?

I guess you could use the thor to store movies and shows because it has a micro sd card slot and a headphone jack unlike phones

so it is definitely really good in that aspect

[snow palm]

I don't know I feel a ds shaped device could be an interesting replacement so you don't have to carry both your phone and the Thor. But it all really depends on how the software works 🤔

[devout forge]

https://tenor.com/view/hades-hercules-olympus-would-be-that-way-olympus-point-gif-24314484

Ayaneo phone thread would be that way

I think most people want handhelds specifically to seperate themselves from their phone, so mixing the two would just be an xperia play esk device which does have it's appeal but I wouldn't call it a handheld

[snow palm]

I mean the main purpose I preorder the Thor is cause I wanted to have a modern (3)ds , but having a pocketable 2 screen android clamshell device opens it up for a lot of interesting things. And it made me wonder how comfortable it would be from just using your phone to have this instead for your main drive for YouTube and discord and what not.

[devout forge]

I guess you could make it work for discord

but typing would kinda be like typing on your phone sideways

and all the letters are in the middle

[sacred gorge]

Just a weird thought just now

But what if a full screen keyboard on the second screen

[devout forge]

top heavy

if you use the bigger screen

[snow palm]

It all depends on the software ,like I feel it would be a pretty decent experience if they like somehow get the keyboard to show on the bottom screen

[devout forge]

I've typed on 3ds before

it was horrible with my fingers, but decent with the stylus

[sacred gorge]

Stylus?

[devout forge]

the little pencil that comes with the 3ds

[sacred gorge]

I was thinking just the Dpad console setup

[snow palm]

I remember using pictochat alot as a kid it was alot of fun.

[sacred gorge]

Not the styuls

[sacred gorge]

I know what a stylus is lol

[snow palm]

But ye the two things holding it back is like that android isn't made for dual screens and potentially no stylus can be annoying.

[devout forge]

dualscreen worked on the surface duo but that was mainly because android treated them as 1 big screen

it's also the reason why you can't have 120hz on main screen while lower screen is active

they had to make android think the 2 screens are one big

and it's impossible to make one screen half 120hz and half 60hz

[wispy fjord]

Isn't that one of the features? You can activate the keyboard on the bottom screen in full at any time. It's an option on their "TCC".

[gilded pecan]

I have a feeling this is just a mockup and not something they have actually made yet

so take the "features" there with a grain of salt

[wispy fjord]

Probably, but I'm pretty sure I saw the Pocket DS with it, so I don't see why they wouldn't want to compete by adding similar.

[hot holly]

Usually becomes there's bad scaling at play

Any low res or pixel art game just looks like mud when scaled up a lot with the wrong type of scaling

Idk what Android uses by default but it's probably not NN

[devout forge]

no, I'm talking about nearest neighbour

mostly 3d games always look better at native resolution

if we are not talking about literal upscaling

[low lake]

it always is when these things get revealed

was funny in the pocket DS reveal as they mentioned "in dev" for like half of them

[hot holly]

Anyone know any Usb C docks that would fit the Thor while it's closed?

Also does anyone know if it's worth getting the 12gb model or 8gb is enough for most Android stuff nowadays

[low lake]

from what i heard 8gb should be enough for must stuff of today

i only really saw need for more on TotK switch emu and winlator stuff

no clue about cemu or first attemps at ps3

[red cairn]

Idk the 8 elite with game hub can run crazy shit like resident evil 3 remake. It has a ton of potential. But yeah it's early and gamehub kinda sus. See if it gets better drivers this year

[sacred gorge]

I'm a big fan of sharp bilinear or any of the more modern interpolation shaders

I hope that someone could port the glsl version to work Azahar

[frigid shore]

It's not even resolution, it's just the physical size of the screen making the pixels smaller and less noticeable.
Combined with your brain filling in "gaps" it gives the illusion of looking better.

It's like how small sprites often have to imply shapes and your brain just auto-corrects it mentally.

Meanwhile on a larger screen the physical pixels are more noticeable and it's harder for your brain to auto-correct since they're just right there in your face.

[nocturne osprey]

so is the Pro a bad deal? I'm kind of eyeing it

don't really want to pay much more than 350-360 for a handheld and I do want the purple colour lol

[vast ibex]

I mean, the Pro is what I went for lol.

[nocturne osprey]

oh nice lol

[vast ibex]

It's fine, as long as you're not loading up like crazy on Vita, PS3, or Switch games.

Vita and PS3 especially, since those just install the games to the internal storage. Switch it's the shaders, and updates/DLC if you don't merge them with the game.

[nocturne osprey]

hm I do intend on playing some Switch and PS3 on this if possible

is this capable of playing the newer Pokemon titles and KoF 13?

but I won't be downloading a ton of them, it'll be a handful at best

[low lake]

ps3 android emu is veeeery early

that will take years to be OK

let alone good

[nocturne osprey]

also errr is this coming with absolutely nothing

saw them selling almost every single peripheral

[vast ibex]

According to the Odin 2 spreadsheet the Switch version of King of Fighters 13 can play just fine.

[nocturne osprey]

ooh

that works!

[vast ibex]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XaPYEyTinKk7F2uTfgSDpgEelhUYPFBWo7knX_3aQgw/

[nocturne osprey]

like do I need to buy the screen protectors and case or does AYN ship the device with one of each

[vast ibex]

I'm pretty sure you have to buy them. They even have a note that the device won't close all the way with them on apparently.

[gentle notch]

Wait seriously?

[gentle notch]

Fortunately for a clamshell they're not as important I guess

[nocturne osprey]

oof

[knotty ether]

Any word on when review units go out?

[vast ibex]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wispy fjord]

Mid-September.

[vast ibex]

Yeah, that sounds about aright.

Really, mostly just thinking of what stylus I wanna grab.

[knotty ether]

That’s in like two weeks. Excited to see the videos on this one.

[vast ibex]

If they're sent out in mid-sept then that means it'll be a bit longer. Probably closer to late-sept for videos to actually come out.

[nocturne osprey]

did you grab any of the accessories? or are cases/TPU shells not that important

[vast ibex]

Nope

[kind saffron]

I got the everything pack for peace of mind. Lol

[vast ibex]

I have never used a TPU shell in my entire life

Cases I'll usually grab, but this time decided not to.

[nocturne osprey]

mm

[vast ibex]

I'll probably just keep my Thor in a Club Nintendo pouch I've had lying around for forever.

[crude tulip]

Just grab the case and you are good, screen protectors on a clam shell, especially when you are only able to apply one is nutz

[hot holly]

I was thinking

this device should be pretty sweet for game streaming tbh

you can use Geforce/Xcloud/Boosteroid on the top screen and have Discord open on the bottom no? 🤔 And a wired headset

I wonder how it would work in practice though

the Retroid dock might be a good pick for the Ayn Thor tbh

itll be off centre but seems like it should fit closed

[lilac cobalt]

I’m gonna prob try my Ayaneo dock

[hot holly]

I looked at that one but doesnt seem worth the monees

[lilac cobalt]

I already have it so

[hot holly]

ye

The flip 2 is only like 2-3mm thinner than the Thor

should be a perfect fit tbh

it being off centre is pretty cursed though

[upper sail]

Fuck it, decided to go for it and also pre-order the Thor.

Guess I’m in the same batshit crazy club as Kei now.

[latent pecan]

Same, because the case is oversized to fit the grips which I don’t want. Pity they didn’t offer a smaller Thor-only option.

[wispy fjord]

Yaaaay!

[crude tulip]

they offer a THOR only case, lol

[kind saffron]

Haha. Yeah. Thought that was funny. But also much appreciated

[crude tulip]

you guys need to buy some glasses

[kind saffron]

It's why I went with the bundle

Still might add the reg case later

But it comes with a soft pouch that should work for it without grips

[latent pecan]

Guess I was too busy smashing the buy button to read properly. Thanks!

[crude tulip]

I'm still holding out till the Odin 3 gets more info, if they sell it via ayntec as well instead of going IGG that would be great and save $10 shipping

don't wanna waste the huge THOR EB discount

[low lake]

you select the version of it inside cart iirc

[crude tulip]

glasses man

[low lake]

lol

you were already making fun of same thing 😄

i am tired

[crude tulip]

nah, at this point it's 70% concern and 30% making fun

[kind saffron]

Hey man. Days be long

[low lake]

days are the worst 😄

i have whole night to make week amount of work to hit my deadline #yaycrunch

[rocky sinew]

I've used the same pouch for years for so many of these devices

[gilded pecan]

we ballin'

[winter roost]

I really want to order, but I wanna see WTF is going on with tariffs first

[halcyon spindle]

Following the confirmation that AYN is putting a Snapdragon 8 Elite in the Odin 3, I'm starting to wonder if an 8 Elite Thor will be somewhere down the road

Granted, you can't be happy in this hobby if you're worried about what's next, but this company has a bad history of releasing better models within like 6 months of launching the previous one

[jaunty hull]

if the thor line sells well, I see no reason they wouldnt.

given what Ive heard about pre-order numbers already. odds are pretty ok.

also gotta see how the odin 3 sales do.

and performance numbers.

[torpid canyon]

sounds like the most logical next step for a thor 2

don't see myself ever needing more power than on a 8gen2 though

[hearty charm]

Bad history? How often have they released something better within 6 months? they had the odin and odin lite, they then had the odin 2, later the odin 2 mini which was completely different but same chip then the portal which had the same chip but bigger and there definitely wasn't 6 months between the odin 2 and the odin portal

Will they release a thor 2 that's stronger? Probably. Within 6 months...🤣

[analog arch]

How feasible is it to even play a lot of those?

[sacred gorge]

Personally I consider the Odin 2 line as one model of different form factors (with the Thor being one of them)

So Odin 3 is successor to the Odin 2 back in 2023

[kind saffron]

Yeah. I think your thinking of Ayaneo 😆

To be fair the 1s was a year apart kinda from the 2s. It just took 6 months to deliver

Plus. Neither here nor there. But this sounds more like an addiction problem then a company problem regardless of who does it

Like just stop consoom

[full wigeon]

there are people employed to design, test R&D the handhelds, and promo stuff as their main skills, if there is nothing new to work on then they have no work, they then could leave to X other company, who will basically use their skills to make the handhelds that would be a little better anyway for another competitor company.

[gilded pecan]

feels like we've gone from "woah OLED and 865 in a pocketable clamshell" to "they'll probably make an 8 elite one better wait" in the blink of an eye

[sacred gust]

A Thor 2 need to wait til they get a bottom screen that is more matching to the top. plus time needed to find/fix any dual screen software woes and potentially hinge issues etc

[upper sail]

Dude, multiple members of the podcast itself went from saying “Eh, the regular Pocket Fit will be better, 8 Elite isn’t great currently due to drivers being unavailable” to treating the chipset like the next Coming of Christ after the Odin 3 announcement (with them even then still talking up how good the Elite Gen 2 will also be). You should expect this kind of stuff at this point.

Although I guess the above could more easily be explained as “yeah, but now it’s Ayn doing it, so now the chipset will be good”.

[gentle notch]

They saw the light

[vast ibex]

I mean, I saw someone in the Ayn server going "the Odin 3 has an 8 Elite, so I guess the Thor is just not really worth it?" As if the 8G2 isn't an absolute beast of an emulation chip.

[elder wing]

[vast ibex]

Like, isn't the only current advantage of the 8 Elite, due the lack of drivers, Windows emulation and android games?

[upper sail]

They huffed the cope that Odin 3 will somehow be in the same price range as the Odin 2, which “will totally mean that devs will be able to make turnip drivers for it, and all will be well”.

As if that wasn’t exactly what I was thinking before I learned that the Turnip devs were literally offered 8 Elite devices for free and still turned them down because they just didn’t see the need to develop drivers for the chipset.

If things turn out better in the long run, then I’m more than game for the Odin 3.

But as is, I’m only looking at the Pocket Fit at best and just avoiding both the Pocket Fit Elite and the Odin 3.

[gentle notch]

Oh lol I didn't know that they thought it'd be in the same price range, that's just not happening. Yeah I don't think the elite is going to get drivers by the time the O3 releases, part of me thinks (or copes) that there will be some kind of improvements for the chipset though within the next year though, whether that's in the form of custom drivers or just more mature emulators

[elder wing]

Funny you say that as one of the Eden devs confirmed they're working on a Vulkan rework that would make it more memory efficient and give overall better performance globally for all devices, including elite chips

[upper sail]

Will that help with compatibility for more than just the 20~ games currently confirmed to boot? Will it conveniently also help with compatibility for Vita3k?

[elder wing]

Vita3k idk, but it should help with the game comparison as it's what Ryujinx figured out to get its performance and compatibility on PC

[jaunty hull]

yeah glad I dont need it so maybe by the time I consider one, the maturity might be there more.

[dark aurora]

Yes, because better vulkan implementation will make stock drivers way better, rather than relying on workarounds for turnip, and the 8 elite has good drivers for vulkan due to google trying to push android devs to migrate to vulkan.

Itll still be quite awhile so if you really want to do switch emulation then the g3 gen 3 is the best chip for it bar non.

[snow palm]

Honestly i dont really need a better chip right now, like it probally only helps with winlator, and i have no idea how to set it up properly. And potentionaly ps3 but thats still undercooked, i rather wait a couple of years till its more developed

[left kiln]

Got my order for the Thor max in 😊 I cant wait

[vast ibex]

Well you're gonna!

I just want Halloween to get here.

So my Thor will already be here, and I'll be playing Mina the Hollower.

[tidal peak]

you waited a while Kira, how large of an order# you got?

[left kiln]

OD78XXXX

[vast ibex]

OD75XXXX, and I ordered day one, so the Thor's probably sold pretty well for itself so far.

[tidal peak]

i have OD761xxx for aug 26, let's see when we will receive the shipping notice

[vast ibex]

I'm hoping I'm early in the mid-October notifications.

[low lake]

i am #OD761xxx ad waited like a day or two before ordering

funnily enough frind ordere day later and it already was #OD771xxx

[hearty charm]

I ordered shortly after opening and am 731xxx. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[vast ibex]

Yeah, I imagine they got most of their sales in that first few hours.

[marsh pagoda]

Most of the sales will happen after Russ review if it’s good 😁

[lavish crypt]

thats what i am waiting for

they said review units should be shipped out mid sept

[steady ingot]

Yeah, I ordered about 30 minutes after open and I'm at 747xxx

[honest slate]

So maybe 20K sales before reviews are out? Damn the Thor is killing the Pocket DS

[steady ingot]

Considering the price difference that's not terribly surprising

[lavish crypt]

indeed

[steady ingot]

The Thor is practically a bargain

[vast ibex]

Poor Aya Neo, Ayn wants their lunch again.

And it'll be a third time with the Pocket Fit Elite vs Odin 3.

[upper sail]

I ordered yesterday as well and got OD779XXX.

It was for a Transparent Purple Max model, because fuck it I’d much rather have 1TB of storage than 256GB.

[vast ibex]

Fair, I might upgrade my order later from Pro to Max.

I got time to think about it

[hot holly]

ngl I'd probably just get the soft pouch + tpu shell

less bulky

[jaunty hull]

Yeh the 80 dollars difference is worth it imho. But that thinking quickly lead from 250-430 very quickly lol.

[honest slate]

Honestly even if the worst comes true and the hinge is as bad as the flip2 and the dual screen software is buggy It still seems like the better value option. Battery life is the one thing that bad software could cause this to be the 'worse' device

[little yacht]

Does the 8g2 have enough power to upscale ps3 to 1080p if the software allows for it

[honest slate]

Not on the GPU

Some titles might be fine

[rugged orchid]

I ordered 30 minutes after opening and it was already at 751xxx.

[honest slate]

If the drivers mature for it, the G3x Gen2 in the Pocket DS may become the better ps3 experience as on paper it has more graphical horsepower

[gentle notch]

I mean the drivers are already there

[snow palm]

How will the sending go anyways, will they produce all at the same time or like in batches.

[rugged orchid]

Definitely in batches. Probably by region.

[gilded pecan]

I ordered within the first minute and was 732

[vast ibex]

I ordered just before two hours and was 756xxx

[snow palm]

yes same same

[snow palm]

hope europe didn't pull the shortest straw then.

[rugged orchid]

I only know how GPD used to handle it. They would often start with the Chinese market and when they were done, the US would be next, cause they were the second biggest market. After that Europe.

Between batches GPD would also make small adjustments based on feedback from Chinese customers.

[honest slate]

Is it naive to think AYN have the volume to ship all the preorders before 2026?

This will be my first device from them

[rugged orchid]

They have been around for a while, so I'd guess they can ship them pretty quick.

I'd assume they are bigger than GPD and they also shipped pretty fast.

[honest slate]

I don't think GPD would see this volume of orders

[gilded pecan]

depends on how many preorders they got and whether they run into any factory issues

[honest slate]

Does anyone know how long the OG Odin2 took for all the preorders to arrive?

[torpid canyon]

I think they can do it if there aren’t any production issues.
There’s no curved glass with a shitty yield rate this time..
Maybe the hinges will cause an issue, who knows

[gilded pecan]

that was insanely quick, like a month or so from the moment shipping started, but then you have other cases like the Odin 2 Portal which took months due to factory issues

[honest slate]

Ah interesting. Thanks

[gilded pecan]

on average, I would say the chances are good they complete preorders before Christmas

[torpid canyon]

Odin 2 launch was goated, they even moved the shipping date forward

[gilded pecan]

greatest launch of all time, too bad we'll probably never see anything like it again

[fringe temple]

yeah the launch of odin 2 was insanely good, after the loki and odin lite a lot of us were sceptical

[elder wing]

The Odin 2's launch was crazy to witness

[gilded pecan]

AYN had a lot to prove after the Odin 1 + Loki were plagued with delays for months

and they just came swinging, guns blazing

only nineties kids remember

[hearty charm]

I don't think their order numbers mean much 😅

[gilded pecan]

yeah, I would agree with that

they indicate some loose sense of sequence but that's it

[vast ibex]

Realistically it'll only matter if you're getting one right before mid-october, vs getting one in the first month or so.

And probably not even then.

[hearty charm]

I'll know mine is shipped when I get emailed. I'm not going to watch some dashboard. Stress isn't for gaming. I save that for real life shit that matters 🤣

[latent pecan]

I’m pretty sure I read highest spec first?

[vast ibex]

I got plenty to play while waiting for my New 2DS XL Pro.

[hearty charm]

It's usually how these companies go. Pocket ds is doing that as well

[vast ibex]

Currently moving my DS and 3DS collection to my Odin 2 Mini's microSD.

Getting decently low on that card.

[fringe temple]

nice 😄 i got a fair few 3ds games

[vast ibex]

88GB of 3DS games over here.

[vast ibex]

I must have miscounted, because I only only have about 40GB left on my microSD and not the 70GB I expected.

Might just have to get that 1.5GB card after all.

[fringe temple]

how big is your current sd card? 1tb?

[vast ibex]

Yeah

[snow palm]

God I have the lite so i still be at the tail end.

[tidal peak]

i don't remember ayn doing it by highest specs, they were doing it by colors + specs but i remember from odin2 days that they shipped also base from the start

only for ayaneo does it in reverse from highest to lowest

[flint pumice]

That's crazy. The preorder number in China is 4.5k. I thought domestic market would be close to 50%.

[kind saffron]

Not really shocking to me. But people still try to argue that there's not a clear winner

Thor just what people have been asking for for years at this point

Like it's as close as what we'll probably get for up to 3DS

And it can even Wii U

[left kiln]

The Thor being similar to a 3DS in size is a big appeal I think. Plus the change to be able to play 3DS and DS with upscale and on OLED screens. Its too good to pass up.

[honest slate]

The DS and 3DS china equivalents flopped, I don't think they'd be good markers. Also this 20k number is for a longer timespan

[cloud aspen]

Where are these sales numbers coming from?

[hidden hollow]

#OD75**** Gang rise up! 💪

[honest slate]

Randomly guessing from order numbers

[kind saffron]

Which is probably pretty accurate. Ayn hasn't had a big release in a bit. Most of their stuff can be found cheaper elsewhere at this point. If Odin3 had released at the same time would be harder to determine

Figure some of it is people just late buying parts and accessories for other stuff

[snow palm]

Order numbers probably not accurate I have 732xxx and I ordered directly at the second it went life but there people with 731xxx out there. It's hard for me to imagine 1k people would have ordered literally in the first minute.

[vast ibex]

I'm pretty use OD# is for all the Ayn store sales, not just the Thor lol

my Odin 2 order from Feb 2024 was OD32xxx

[left kiln]

Correct but how many other orders do you think are happening right now? Probably not that many lol

[lilac cobalt]

My order is 738

[vast ibex]

People that ordered in the last couple days seem to be in the 779xxx range.

Feels like at least half of the orders were in the first day or so, and it's slowed down a good deal since.

Going from 73xxxx to my 75xxxx within the first two hours, and only just now getting to 78xxxx a week later.

[left kiln]

Yeah thats to be expected I guess. They'll probably pick up after reviews (or refunded depending on how they go)

[snow palm]

20k seems way too much for me, considering every single Kickstarter or indiegogo project I ever seen.

[hidden hollow]

Whelp! The bill just came in for my preorder, $540CDN for the Pro is a SPICY MEATA BALL

And my stupidity of canceling my Base model order to buy the Pro cost me $11 in fees 😅

[kind saffron]

I dunno. Totally feasible. Lol

[hidden hollow]

Instead of simply emailing support to upgrade my order...

[ornate dune]

Ouch

[hidden hollow]

Let it be a lesson to us all

[kind saffron]

You'd be shocked how many people order in the first 30 seconds

We love to consoom

I know several people who jumped in on a base just to change it to a different color/model later via support

To stay ahead in queue

[sacred gorge]

I ordered within the first minute and I have a 734XXX order

[kind saffron]

But yeah. I know they're orders update sequentially. Cause I placed two back to back during a lul and they were only 1 apart

[frail osprey]

Same here

[kind saffron]

Later had support combine them and I believe that just leaves a gap

So they might introduce gaps. But I don't think they'd ever go backwards

Pretty sure that's just how Shopify works

They may have also had vendors buy in bulk through the same order system

[errant dome]

i ordered within the first 5 minutes, max purple, order 743xxx

[kind saffron]

752xxx here. But I ordered like a day later

Maybe early batches hinges will break and be resolved before they make mine 😆

[vast ibex]

That might be what changes my mind on order number.

Because I got my order in at 11:25PM Eastern, August 25th, and I'm 756xxx lol

[snow palm]

Hmnn is that a thing that's possible 🤔

[errant dome]

yeah just email the sales support and ask, theyll send an invoice

[snow palm]

Hmn I have the lite now, but maybe it be nice to get better specs for switch, but at the same time I don't feel like I be playing switch as much and it not being a comfy way to play cause of heating

[kind saffron]

I usually just don't care about switch because I have switches. There are a couple first party games I buy during holiday BOGOs and then a ton of indies which I'll gladly pay for

It's just one of those systems I never feel the need to play on something else

[snow palm]

Main reason I don't really emulate switch is that it's still very buggy and prone to like overheating , when a regular switch doesn't have those problems.

[lavish crypt]

My odin 2 and odin 2 portal do not over heat lol they have active cooling which does a great job

The fans aren't loud either

If thor has enough active cooling it won't be a problem either

Software issues are the reasons to not emulate switch

[snow palm]

Ye tbf when I first tried switch emulation was on my sd8 gen 1 and they prone to overheating seemingly, but still I feel I over exert like the chip by doing switch.

[lavish crypt]

Did you try it on a phone?

Anything with active cooling, like these devices, don't have thermal issues

And you aren't pushing the chip, if anything it fully utilizes the chip

Where most other emulators don't use even half, if that

[wispy fjord]

I have officially made my order for the Thor!

[left kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/yess-yes-gif-25420589

[torpid canyon]

Sweet, what color did you pick

[wispy fjord]

[upper sail]

Welcome to the club.

[wispy fjord]

[torpid canyon]

Maybe clurple is the right way

Will look beets with a black grip and stylus

[balmy vortex]

I almost went "Clurple". Black looks professional.

[wispy fjord]

Genuinely purple just looks so... fun. And I've gotten into the habit of actually decorating my things, using sticker sheets I've got from various life stuff, personalizing it all.

So purple seems the most fitting with the vibe I've been growing into.

[errant dome]

i contemplated the black because like with clothes, black goes with anything. if i want to mod this thing, black is a great canvas

ultimately i went purple

[lilac cobalt]

i went purple because I had an atomic purple gameboy color and ive never had something purple

[dark aurora]

I ordered purple for the thor. And purple would definitely push this well over the konkr for an elite device.

[kind saffron]

I went purple cause only fun color, and also Retroid hinge panic. I had white originally. Also helps me possibly avoid yellowing sticks

[ocean pumice]

Is it silly to want the Thor for specs/portability and not the second screen? 😅

[lilac cobalt]

just keep the 2nd screen off 🙂

yeah, a flip3 w/ sd 8 gen 2 tho...

use the extra space for a track pad!

one thing I hate about flips is trying to use the touch screen

[steady ingot]

Honestly yeah, the specs are really great. It's tempting to just do that for myself, but I'm waiting to see what else starts coming soon.

Just like.. gimme an Odin 2 mini with the SD8Gen3 and an OLED screen already.

[ocean pumice]

YES that's what I want for an upgrade from my RP5 LOL

[ocean pumice]

Thats actually so true
Damn I might get a Thor
We'll see but it's a strong consideration
Ive been getting into games like ZZZ or WuWa and I'd like to play those at higher fps and quality lol

I got an RP5 trying to rekindle my interest in emulation but I ended up playing those two and Destiny instead 😩

[errant dome]

i used to play a lot of wuwa, but on pc. put it on the portal thinking id try playing again, but i cant play that game without mouse and keyboard

[ocean pumice]

Why's that? The only issue i have is the camera at times

[errant dome]

muscle memory

in general im a pc/mouse+kb gamer so im not big on dual analog gaming. they may as well be arcade joysticks the way i use them

[ocean pumice]

I totally get that

I was raised on MnK but certain games like WuWa feel more natural on controller

[snow palm]

Purp is my first choice but black probably looks nice with OLED mayb

[errant dome]

it depends on the game. like if i played DMC id be on controller

but games like wuwa that require lots of quick camera movement, i struggle with on controller

as i load it up and try it again, its also the button shortcuts. there are so many buttons, prefer 1 key stroke

runs so well tho, def makes me want to play lol

[hybrid mulch]

I played a few hours wuwa on my 8 gen 2 and 8 elite phone. Runs very smooth with good graphics. The game does not click for me though. I can't find an incentive for me to go deeper into the story.

[steady ingot]

It doesn't help that the early story is real bad. I guess it gets way better later on, but the early bits are r o u g h.

[wispy fjord]

Y'all talking about the action gachas where I just want the turn-based RPG gacha in high def.

[sacred gorge]

I enjoy Sword of Convallaria tho that's more of a turn based SRPG

[wispy fjord]

Oh? I was memeing about Honkai Star Rail, but now I'll have to maybe look.

[sacred gorge]

it's like a gacha ff tactics

there's a gacha part but there's also a story mode too

[lilac cobalt]

i think i tried that

it was good up till the paywall

[ocean pumice]

Whatcha running it on?

HSR was good but the story lost me and the power creep was disgusting imo

Fuckin love Anaxa tho

[errant dome]

Portal

[steady ingot]

Hsr power creep is a bit much, but they just buffed my lady Kafka so they're in my good graces for now.