AYN Thor

[balmy vortex]

That is what I mean. The basic design is the same as a DS. Yes, some DS hinges cracked, but it is what it is. Can't redefine physics.

[vast ibex]

I think the only one I haven't see common complaints about, is the AyaNeo DS, the first one.

But how much of that was actually good quality control/testing, and how much of is that just a ton less people got the $1000 handheld vs the $200-$250 ones, or cheaper for the Linux ones.

[slender palm]

problem with all around glass is oh boy all edge
basically pretty high chance of shattering when you drop it verses inset panels

[zenith osprey]

I just want a hinge that last longer than 3 months. Stares at the Retroid Flip1/2

[vast ibex]

tbf, most of these handhelds would not handle a fall that would just shatter the glass like that that well either.

[upper sail]

Well, the Flip 2 will give you exactly that…so you probably should specify longer than 4-5 months instead.

[vast ibex]

lol

[gentle notch]

Ideally a year, so that mine will break just in time for the thor 2

[vast ibex]

Or you should've known you had to get the Ice Blue unit, which bizarrely has the least reports of hinge failure apparently.

Contrary to popular opinon pre-release that the clear plastic version would be the worst.

[hushed ridge]

Kinda thinking I should have ordered a grip with mine now… can I modify my order? Probably not?

[left kiln]

Send them an email

[tidal peak]

since reportedly the plastics on retroid devices feel different from ayn devices maybe we will get lucky

[upper sail]

Oh I’ve had the Ice Blue as my main handheld for 3 months until I got the Pocket Ace. Not a single sign of a crack.

I keep telling all of you, the transparent plastics are paradoxically more durable explicitly because it’s easier to notice issues, so they just work on making them better.

[lavish crypt]

yea retroid confirmed with me directly the ice blue model is the way to go and not showing any issues

i swapped my black flip 2 for the ice blue

[sacred gorge]

wrong about what? it's a fact that i stopped using my rp5 for the odin 2 mini because of the screen lol

[tidal peak]

otherwise let's pray to the hinge god that it will hold as good as powkiddy or anbernic hinges

[upper sail]

Pray specifically for it to be as good as Anbernic’s 35v2 and 34 hinges.

Don’t pray for the V1’s.

[sacred gorge]

I'd rather risk a hinge than get a transparent model 🤢

[lavish crypt]

yea i wasn't too thrilled about having to go ice blue but i would ratherthe hinge not have issues cause i love this device as my edc bag device

[vast ibex]

And then there's me, who loves clear models

[lavish crypt]

its not the worst once you see it in person

[gentle notch]

Atomic purple is fire though

[vast ibex]

Most of the clear colors look much better in person than in the renders.

Or even the lightbox professional pictures.

[upper sail]

I’m not even joking when I say the possibility of it being a better hinge isn’t even a fraction of a percentage of the reason for why I’m thinking of getting the Purple Thor. I just freaking love Atomic purple stuff.

[lavish crypt]

i want the black model

need to wait for reviews first tho

[sacred gorge]

it's more that i always disliked seeing the insides of my handhelds

[vast ibex]

Honestly I would've preferred something like the Odin 2 Blue, or Retroid Pocket 2S Green or 4 Red.

[sacred gorge]

i disliked the clear dmg even as a kid

[lavish crypt]

yea same seein gthe internals is meh

[zenith osprey]

prison handhelds

[vast ibex]

But it's so cool, look even the screen is transparent!

[lavish crypt]

Seeing this ribbon cable bothers me so much lol

[sacred gorge]

oof yea that would annoy me to no end

[upper sail]

So it was you that ruined the clear RDS!

[lavish crypt]

but it is what it is, i love using this thing

[gentle notch]

My only issue with the atomic purple is it's kind of random, like it's a gameboy colorway on a ds handheld

[errant dome]

n64 clear purple!

[vast ibex]

I'm more annoyed by the weird clock/sonar circle than the ribbon tbh.

[errant dome]

its been around a few times!

[sacred gorge]

i'm much more partial to the frosted look

[lavish crypt]

luckily both are on the back of the lid so when i am playing i don't see it

[zenith osprey]

there is AYN lore with purple trans handhelds

[sacred gorge]

yea no idea what they were doing with that design

[vast ibex]

Makes me glad the Thor is just a flat sheet.

[gentle notch]

Yeah I wonder who had the idea

[zenith osprey]

Scott is the reason why.

[vast ibex]

Anyway, just emailed Ayn to change my color option from White to Clear Purple.

People in the Ayn discord got me paranoid about the White unit yellowing.

[zenith osprey]

I have a couple of white handhelds. Beside the RP3 I have zero yellowing. Another long term problem like burn in

[vast ibex]

Honestly, I don't mind any of the color options that much.

Though that also means none of them really drew me in like the RP2S Green or RP4 Red. Those caught my eye almost immediately, and I loved just taking them out of their cases just to look at 'em.

[wintry prairie]

yellowing is a part of the retro-ness! like a 90s PC owned by a smoker!

(yellowing on modern electronics mostly looks terrible tbh)

[vast ibex]

Eh, I just needed and excuse to change to purple.

Heck maybe in a month I'll change my mind again.

It's two months out, I got time

[wintry prairie]

I'm lucky that black is usually my preferred color. unless a red variant appears.

[vast ibex]

I'm not a huge fan of just black myself.

And honestly, not a huge fan of just white either. But I was planning on at least asking if I could buy black buttons to customize it.

[hidden hollow]

Because I went Pro, I feel like I'm doing a disservice by only buying Black lol

[vast ibex]

Get that panda look.

[hidden hollow]

Oops sorry for reply

[wintry prairie]

I like black with colorful accents. black w/ skittle buttons, or preferably, black with red buttons would be the dream lol (or the opposite).

[upper sail]

I’m fine with it, but I definitely prefer having at least some kind of splash of color on Black handhelds. It’s the same reason I’m having to fight the urge to spend another $100 on upgrading to Yellow Pocket DS since it would be remarkably stupid.

[vast ibex]

Black with white highlights and white with black highlights look so much better than solid black and solid white imo.

It's part of why I almost got the black RG34XX instead of the indigo one. The light grey buttons and sides help stop it from being visually dull imo.

And why I got white buttons for my black RG28XX lol.

[upper sail]

Oh absolutely agreed on that, 100%

I freaking love Panda handhelds in general.

[vast ibex]

Panda and Tuxedo is what I call 'em lol

But yeah, my plan was for a Panda Thor, but eh. I think I'll stick with purple. Maybe ask for white buttons, since I think that'd look clean.

[errant dome]

the purple + white i recently sold off

going to hope they release white replacement buttons again and repeatr this on the purple thor

[left kiln]

My blue Odin 2 with white buttons. I loved this

[vast ibex]

I said it in the Ayn discord server, but I defintely think white buttons are way too underrated by handheld makers.

[errant dome]

color+white buttons should be the standard

[vast ibex]

Especially on not-white handhelds.

The orange RG28XX is the only one like that by default off the top of my head.

[vast ibex]

The heck is that, some R36 clone?

[icy atlas]

R36 2

[errant dome]

it is an r36

[icy atlas]

R36 3

[errant dome]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bAjyIhFbXaY

[vast ibex]

I think my only complaint with a white dpad is that dead skin and oils can get caught in the arrows' corners.

Though that's more due to how "sharp" the indent is for the arrows. the Miyoo A30's arrows are a more gentle slope so the gunk cleans off easier.

[icy atlas]

R36 2.0

[icy atlas]

Wash your hands

[errant dome]

in this pic, the 35xxh i modded with white buttons

[vast ibex]

Get new material

[icy atlas]

Hygiene is important

[vast ibex]

Some peeps just have more oily hands than others. Heck I just got back from the bathroom and my hands are already starting to sweat a bit lol.

[kind saffron]

Haha. Pro is more than enough. I def overbought

[errant dome]

black is the most "logical" choice due to the bottom screen oled

but we all gotta follow our hearts

[hidden hollow]

That was my original thought with Flip 2 OLED blending into the black frame. It was lovely...until it cracked...

[vast ibex]

It's an especially good choice if you don't see yourself using the bottom screen much, and just wanna leave it off. Then you just have an Odin 2 Flip

[fluid cloak]

i wash my hands before playing with pretty much any controller / handheld and i still get slight build up over time that i wipe off on those style of dpads

it happens

[errant dome]

well with the flip 2, does it matter the color? arent all the top screens against black bezel?

[vast ibex]

Like, you're literally rubbing your fingers into a ditch, dead skin is gonna build up eventually. Just means I have to groom my controllers/handhelds a bit more often than others.

God I've seen some gross controllers from others that don't to it. Just a gross beige line in the mold lines.

[icy atlas]

i kind of wish the thor did this on top and bottom

black glass but colored shell

[fluid cloak]

i gagged when i saw my old ps3 sixaxis lol

never. again.

[vast ibex]

Same for me with my old SF30 Pro. I took that whole thing apart to give it a good clean.

Still can't figure out how to clean the "disc" better. Other than potentially leaving it to soak for a while.

this guy

[hidden hollow]

Some of those controller cleaning videos where they peel a film off the thumb sticks 🤢

[vast ibex]

I straight up replaced the stick caps for my SF30 since they were melted lol

[wheat creek]

||you're covered by a thin layer of dead skin RIGHT NOW||

[vast ibex]

Also oils

[fluid cloak]

oh trust me i wish i wasn't aware of that

[vast ibex]

Might disassemble the SF30 again to toss the front plate in some soapy water for a while.

Anyway, I'm quite excited for my New Super 2DS XL Pro in October.

Somewhat debating getting one of those android styluses to see if it'd work well with the stylus heavy DS and 3DS games.

[icy atlas]

this is exactly what I want

[vast ibex]

Took me a second to realize what was different lol

[steady ingot]

I'm glad someone can see the difference

[vast ibex]

I totally didn't open up the normal image to compare

[fluid cloak]

is it the black glass plate on the transparent purple?

[vast ibex]

yeah

[fluid cloak]

that's certainly a cool look

[steady ingot]

Ooh

[fluid cloak]

i went with the white one but i gotta admit the black glass front with oled is one hell of a look from when i used the rp mini

[steady ingot]

I wasn't looking at that. I was comparing the buttons, looking at the sticks.. the obvious thing just blew right past me

[candid inlet]

Are Ayn black plastics known to be smudgy? I have a Retroid mini v2 and think it’s okay but that’s Retroid (completely different company obviously)

[vast ibex]

I only know that the normal Odin 2's black is very smudgy.

[steady ingot]

The Odin 2 mini came out last year right? What are the chances of an update to that sometime soon?

[vast ibex]

Odin 2 Mini's black is pretty smudgy, but not insanely so. No clue on the 2 Portal

[fluid cloak]

odin 2 mini was also pretty smudgy but never to the point it really ever bothered me tbh

i know some people are very particular about that tho

[vast ibex]

Here's the normal Odin 2 black:
#1407322274071314492 message

My 2 Mini has never gotten that bad as a comparison.

[icy atlas]

i quite simply do not care how smudgy the plastic is if it does not crack at the hinge

it could be made of ambergris for all i care as long as its durable

[errant dome]

if only

[zenith osprey]

I like that look a lot

[quick mantle]

that looks so clean

why does the thor look so fragile

im considering it as a pocketable/portable device to use since pulling my switch 2 out all the time isn't convenient, but it looks so fragile to me

[zenith osprey]

If you're worried about that just wait for reviews and people to have them in their hands.

[quick mantle]

yeah thats what im doing

waiting till retro game crops posts a review

[cosmic notch]

Am I nuts to want the Thor primarily as a streaming device even though I already have the Portal?

[zenith osprey]

Yes

[gritty tusk]

Not looking good right now for Ayaneo and their Flip 1S #987090057179566131 message

[dim lion]

Kinda, streaming on anything below 7 inch is torture imo

[zenith osprey]

are you blind

[low lake]

the guy must have some rough luck , the sound is dreadfull

[gritty tusk]

Lol my wife panicked at the sound of it. But hey, we can’t trust Ayaneo either atp who have had multiple hinge devices

[snow palm]

streaming stuff on this thing sound like a delight probally? like streaming games on one screen and a whole other screen for videos or brainrot or whatever you want

[vast ibex]

I'd like to correct my previous statement about AyaNeo hinges being the only ones I don't hear much if any issues about.

Not due to this video, though it is compelling it's still just one example could just be bad luck.

But because GPD has been doing clamshells longer than anyone not named Nintendo and I am shocked I haven't heard major complaints about any of 'em.

Actually they've potentially doing it longer than Nintendo at this point I think.

[gritty tusk]

Not only just one example, but it’s the first batch of actual units to have been sent out. There could be many more to come

[vast ibex]

Nintendo: 2003 to 2017 vs GPD: 2015 to 2025.

Getting close, but I'm still wrong.

[dusky thunder]

Yikes!

[gritty tusk]

Nintendo had terrible hinges on DS Lite.

[haughty flare]

I need a black thor with rainbow buttons to match my N3DS

[zenith osprey]

When XD was new there was all kind of hinge issue. XD+ helped. But still tight and feels like it might break

[gritty tusk]

And gba sp 101 shells specifically were so brittle they would crack

The sp 001 was very solid though

[zenith osprey]

Still have my day one 101 sp. Holding up well.

[vast ibex]

I found the hinges on the OG DS were pretty awful, but the DS Lite in my experience was mostly fine. I had a few friends with broken ones, but then again we were all kids, so durability is kind of a crapshoot vs. uncareful kids.

By the 3DS I think Nintendo had basically perfected the hinge imo.

[gritty tusk]

Don’t take the hinge apart or attempt any repair. The shell is very brittle. Specifically on pearl blue and pink colors. Not too sure on graphite

[zenith osprey]

OG DS is the only hinge that broke on me

[gritty tusk]

Ds lite ribbon cables were notorious for disconnecting and or needing to be at specific angle to use the displays

[zenith osprey]

I just think some people are hard on their handhelds.

[gritty tusk]

No, they just are brittle. You can look it up if you want

[zenith osprey]

I have two that feel just like my 001s.

[low lake]

i think GPD learned their leasen after the dreadfull hinge of Win 2 😄

[low lake]

yeah people sure have hard ons on theur handhelds

[vast ibex]

New Toy FOMO™

[fluid cloak]

my ds lite lasted for yeeeeears but it was the one that broke sadly

[vast ibex]

Can't have anyone coming in here being Debbie Downers to rain on my waste of money.

[fluid cloak]

pretty sure by my count my 3DS's hinge has been alive for longer and still works fine

[gritty tusk]

What colors? I’ve had a pearl blue crack on me. Have seen reports of others report the same for pearl blue and pink

[zenith osprey]

pearl and blue. I done about 20 shell swaps for the SP and I never notice a difference in the shells. maybe I was luckly

[gritty tusk]

I think Surface Duo hinges will stand the test of time. But yeah, 3ds hinges were solid

[gritty tusk]

Interesting, maybe you are. Have done quite a few myself. 001s always stay in tact. It’s a high chance any 101 shell will just straight up crack

[vast ibex]

It's hard to say how far one is lucky, unlucky, or neutral lucked.

Until an issue is Quite widespread, it's very easy for the mind to sweep issues under the rug as outliers.

[zenith osprey]

anyways hope AYN got the hinge correct.

[vast ibex]

Same. Or at least that mine lasts long enough that I can sell it when I see others' crack first

[zenith osprey]

Why I am waiting until 2026

[vast ibex]

I caved to the FOMO hype. Even though I said I'd wait.

Just like with the Odin 2.

[gritty tusk]

I just have no confidence atp on anyone’s hinge lol. If even Ayaneo failed, Retroid failed and Nintendo failed on DS lite, Powkiddy Miyoo failed…

I guess Anbernic succeeded lol

[vast ibex]

I mean, DS Lite is also like twenty years old lol

[zenith osprey]

Powkiddy failed?

[vast ibex]

Anbernic very much did not succeed if we take the v1 35XXSP into account.

[zenith osprey]

All my clams from powkiddy have great hinges

[gritty tusk]

Sorry my bad — Miyoo failed

Not powkiddy

[cursive basalt]

Miyoo is pro at failing big time!!!

[zenith osprey]

I mean there are lots of other things wrong with powkiddy handhelds. Just the hinge isn't one of them

[cursive basalt]

Miyoo reminds me of the old company called JXD

[zenith osprey]

They might be the old company Bitboy

[sacred gorge]

You mean the v2. Made the buttons worse by making them more silent

[vast ibex]

The context of the conversation was very much about the hinge but sure.

[sacred gorge]

Huh

What hinge issues did the 35XXSP even have

[gritty tusk]

Were there issues with v1 hinge in 35xxsp?

[sacred gorge]

Not to my memory there weren't

[gritty tusk]

I have one and haven’t had an issue, didn’t know there was a widespread issue with it

[vast ibex]

I saw a decent amount of reports of cracked hinges for the V1 35XXSP.

Now you're in my camp d0minant.

This is how I've felt with you this entire conversation lol

[slender palm]

they did sell like +20k? of them

[gritty tusk]

Oh well, then yeah. We’re all screwed lol

[vast ibex]

Hinges are just a very big point of failure. Moving parts and all that jazz.

[gritty tusk]

Every company has some bad eggs. Not all are gonna be perfect. Just roll the device and hope you hit on a hinge without issue

[vast ibex]

Very easy to get unlucky as an individual, and somewhat easy for companies to get unlucky designing it.

[sacred gorge]

I mean I get that hinges can break. But legit I have never heard the 35XXSP being an issue with hinges

[gritty tusk]

The chances are likely to be good hinge than not

[zenith osprey]

I just hope this goes well. Because I really want one. That is from an AYN hater

[sacred gorge]

V2 35XXSP only changed the buttons unless I'm misremembering

[slender palm]

Theres been a few not enough to cause a rucus, not with the 35xxSP cooking off its batteries early on

[vast ibex]

Basically one or two reports of the battery. No others from what I've seen.

That one seems more a case of bad luck than actual QC issues.

[sacred gorge]

That was a shit show

Like 1-3 images were being reposted

[slender palm]

and yeah the v2 added some very pointless fiber paper between the battery and SoC

[zenith osprey]

I have 3 and no battery issues.

[vast ibex]

That's the problem with a lot of these issues. You see maybe five people, out of the what thousands of people that get them. And then those five reports get spread around like gospel.

It's very hard to parse what's an individual's bad luck, from just bad quality control from the company.

[slender palm]

spicy pillow is a bad look for any device

and XX line has had its fair few more than others

[cursive basalt]

OG BittBoy was made by Miyoo

[vast ibex]

While true, spicy pillow can happen with basically any device. There's only so much a company can do about it.

[zenith osprey]

Yeah my PSP know that all to well

[vast ibex]

I had it happen with my 3DS XL, as well as my PSP.

[slender palm]

at least those were 15 years later not within the first few months of being new

[cursive basalt]

Also RK2020 was made by Miyoo

[zenith osprey]

Is that a statement or question

[cursive basalt]

God Miyoo sucks bug time 😛

[cursive basalt]

Statement 😉

[sacred gorge]

It kinda felt like (at least some people) were trying to put down the 35XXSP for Miyoo Flip
which was like still pretty far away

[zenith osprey]

lol 3 month for me

[haughty flare]

Give this to me now.

[vast ibex]

Miyoo literally only had lightning in a bottle with the Miyoo Mini/Plus, and have not had a major success before or since iirc.

[slender palm]

I like the A30, it just had like 2 overblown issues pre launch it got dunked on hard for

[vast ibex]

It's fine now, but like. It really should not have had those issues.

Those early reviews are arguably the biggest impact on sales any handheld maker gets.

[slender palm]

config error on SNES applying 2x upscale shader (not intscale)
and FW screen brightness being too low

[zenith osprey]

A30 and V90s are my most hated handhelds. Just so bad

[sacred gorge]

what's wrong with v90s

beside missing bluetooth and wifi and a headphone jack

[zenith osprey]

do you have one?

[sacred gorge]

no

I've been wanting to get one just for the sake of getting one

[vast ibex]

Isn't the v90s functionally just a worse 35XXSP?

[zenith osprey]

very cheap feeling.

[sacred gorge]

it does techincally have a better chip

but it's missing a lot of other stuff

[slender palm]

plus like no CFW love

[vast ibex]

I mean, the upgrade to a A133+ seems barely one from the H700 in actual use case from what I've seen around.

But maybe that's just my pickiness in emulation quality.

[slender palm]

if I give a133+ any credit its got mad crazy good battery conservation in sleep mode

[sacred gorge]

yea was gonna type that

[slender palm]

tbh the best ive seen in any device include phones

[sacred gorge]

sleep is way better on the a133

which is very important on a clamshell

[slender palm]

the only thing that beats it is SP/DS where theres literally no phantom drain when its hiberanting

but that doesnt power on in 2s like the a133p can from sleep

if only it wasnt a fucking powerVR gpu

it would cook

[zenith osprey]

if close the lid on the v90s it stays on anyways.

[vast ibex]

yeah they don't have a sensor for that from what I've heard.

[sacred gorge]

because it doesn't have any lid detection

ye

[vast ibex]

Which, seems silly imo for a modern clamshell

[zenith osprey]

because it is shit.

[sacred gorge]

i'd still would love to have clamshell with the trimui brick screen and internals

[dusky thunder]

TrimUI would make a really nice flip IMO. Fingers crossed one day. 34XXSP is close though

[zenith osprey]

If V90s had the brick screen it be up as one of best

[vast ibex]

So, what's the first game you're gonna play on your Thor whenever you get one?

For me it's probably gonna be Sonic Rush

Been meaning to replay that game for ages.

[sacred gorge]

Pokemon

Probably Omega Ruby

[slender palm]

imma play a bunch of games that dont even require dual screens

[vast ibex]

I mean, I'll play basically anything PS1 and later on it. But I just like the novelty of playing actual dual screens games on the dual screen device.

Or heck, maybe since my Odin 2 Mini has PSX buttons, I'll keep the Playstation stuff on it, PS1, PS2, PSP, Vita, and PS3. And then use the Thor for everything else.

I do think Mario & Luigi Bowser's Inside Story's Giant Bowser segments are gonna be funny on the Thor.

[sacred gorge]

should be fine if you do equal sizes

[amber pivot]

same + hd texture pack

[hidden hollow]

I always felt like a blacksheep for owning a PK X18S but I loved that friggin thing

And hinge is as solid today as the day I bought it, thing could take a chunk out of your finger if you closed it too quickly

[vast ibex]

Never heard of the PK x18s

Oh PK as in Powkiddy. Never mind I have heard of thing.

[hidden hollow]

Yea it was the first (I think?) T618 device before Retroid made it cool, never gets the respect it deserves said in a Godfather accent

[vast ibex]

I vaguely recall it not reviewing well.

But it was a well before my time in the emulation handheld hemisphere.

[hidden hollow]

It was super confusing because it had at least 3 revisions and some of them didn't even change the name of the device...X18, X18S X18S Ultra, etc...

I had what I believe was the final revision, much better buttons/dpad (although still a bit mushy for some tastes), L3/R3 support, couple other things

Other than corpo, it was my introduction to Retro Handheld Clamshells and is the reason I'm in this channel now lololololololol

[vast ibex]

I knew of retro handhelds prior. It just wasn't a market I was willing to enter.

The GPD XD I remember seeing not too long after I graduated high school and was super interested in. But I was jobless at the time, and it was pricey iirc. And before that I knew of the Dingoo and whatnot. But like. A PSP felt like a much better deal. Better emulation, and you can actually play PS1 and PSP games on it lol.

It was just a market I kinda forgot about until the OG RG35XX got spread around like crazy.

[hidden hollow]

Yea emulation on the PSP took me a looooong way into this hobby, then I fell down the Raspberry Pi rabbit hole, which led me to the 3d printing rabbit hole to try to make my own retro handheld, which led me to the R35S and the rest is history...

[upper sail]

||That layer of “under skin” that pops up when you scrape yourself just barely soft enough to not actually bleed but still scrapes off skin? That’s your real skin.||

||The skin on the top layer, the stratum corneum, is all dead skin.||

[placid fog]

Also don't Google ||demodex||

[gentle notch]

https://tenor.com/view/worms-skin-breaking-bad-gus-gif-25776725

[jaunty hull]

ah I remember the days of emulation on PSP. lol

[jolly wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-smithers-germs-corona-virus-virus-gif-16581872

[limpid belfry]

Android stylus? is that any different from the regular rubber tipped styluses you can buy on amazon? those didn’t seem very useful for DS games last I tried one

[rocky sinew]

Playing SNES or GBA games on the PSP felt wild back then. PS1 too

[balmy vortex]

Man this thing is bigger than I thought. I should have checked before buying. Lol. I was curious to how it compares to the only clamshell I have right now.

[quick mantle]

Very similar to the new 3ds xl in size

[balmy vortex]

Seems like it. I sold my 3ds xl awhile ago, but seems about right.

[quick mantle]

Just checked n3dsxl is 93.5x160

And the Thor is 94x150

[balmy vortex]

Oh wow. So slight less depth but the same width

[quick mantle]

Yeah

obviously the Thor is thicker

but otherwise very similar in size

4mm difference in thickness

Less than I thought

[balmy vortex]

25.6 is the Thor and the N3DS XL is 21.5. Yeah. I just looked it up.

Pretty dang close. Way closer then I interpreted.

[amber zealot]

And I believe this is measuring the thicker part of the trigger bumps, the rest of the device should be closer to the N3DS XL

[balmy vortex]

Forgot about that. Good point. They likely aimed for 1:1.

[quick mantle]

It seems to be fairly pocketable

The weight could be annoying though

[balmy vortex]

Naw, just tighten your belt. Lol. I hope it is fairly easy to pocket. Always my complaint on big ones like the RP5.

[kind saffron]

i mean a solid attempt

they def recognized that people wanted something actually nintendo ds like

[quick mantle]

Yeah that's true

Same really want something pocketable

Rp5 was just a little to big to pocket

[balmy vortex]

The RP4 was barely small enough for me. The 5 was a bit more bulky and was too much. I also don't like the joy sticks getting moved when shoving it in my pocket. Feels like they'll break or something.

[quick mantle]

Yeah

[icy atlas]

again i doubt the pants you people are wearing

unless you're all secretly gigantic and wear 44x30s

[balmy vortex]

I am a giant that wears cargo pants. Pockets for days!

[icy atlas]

maybe that's where it comes from

i wear 32x32 slims

i can barely fit a brick in a pocket

[balmy vortex]

32x34 for me. Not much different.

[icy atlas]

are you flexing that you're taller than me rn

https://tenor.com/view/noo-gif-12326737461245487165

[balmy vortex]

Yes. 5 foot 15 inches. Lol

[icy atlas]

HRM

[vapid rain]

I have a good amount of jeans, and I’ve been able to pocket my New 2DS and my Anbernic SP

[vast ibex]

Well I done did it. I got my White order changed to Clear Purple.

Hopefully it stands up as well as the Blue Flip 2.

[flint pumice]

I want to see real life photos of other colors

[frigid shore]

Might switch to purple if we get a better real look at it.

[kind saffron]

Changed just for hinge issues?

[gilded pecan]

I would like to think that if they are explicitly offering 1 year warranty this time they put some thought into avoiding the cracks that are showing on the flip 2

like using better plastic

[snow palm]

I remember as a teen trying to run gba on PSP , but it always lagged really bad till I tweaked some settings and maybe a better version came out?

[kind saffron]

The challenge is the pigment. Depending on what color it is. How big the flakes need to be. Etc. it can change how brittle/flexible the mixture is.

The reason transparent does better might be because they're adding a dye to the mix rather than pigment

Transparent should always be a little more stable from the factory. That said it can have its own issues. If the polymer is UV sensitive, there's no opacity that blocks UV rays. So in the UV light can penetrate further and cause failure internally or throughout

[dusky nebula]

stick color is...

[kind saffron]

They def UV coat these tho

[kind saffron]

Pretty sure it's grey. But that's funny. Button text is grey

Think it's supposed to emulate this

[dusky nebula]

good one. the render tells us they probably changed it last minute from white to grey

[vapid rain]

Good change imo

White sticks are very infamous for yellowing fairly fast

[dusky nebula]

my white odin 2 mini seems fine. needs more cheetos

[jolly wadi]

But they’re dangerously cheesy

[kind saffron]

To be fair Retroid promos for the flip 2 did the same exact thing. Like seriously. They're so the same company it's not even funny

[zenith osprey]

Why the hinge is a worry to me.

[kind saffron]

Yeah. One would assume they'd share the fix to that as well

Would be pretty shit if the only thing they don't share as "separate" entities is hardware failure fixes

Like what a shit relationship that would be 😆

[vast ibex]

Not just, also due the Ayn discord making me paranoid about the white yellowing. Apparently a good number of people there had basically all their white Ayn devices yellow after a year or so.

[zenith osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-yellow-gif-12747952

[vast ibex]

Also also, because Ayn support said they wouldn't sell me black buttons lol

[zenith osprey]

Fail on there part

[swift mortar]

do people leave their devices in the sunlight because both my Odin 2 and portal aren’t yellowing at all ?

[vernal niche]

my white oled switch is slowly turning yellow. and nintendo has the best plastics in the industry, you bet your ass their whites will turn yellow

[hidden hollow]

I'm probably going to do the same (Black -> Purple) when I see some real world footage of them both

[vernal niche]

is purple LGBT representation? when playing in public

[river salmon]

Purple is Romanus Imperium representation

[vernal niche]

would hate if people think I'm a gay nerd if I'm playing in public, just a nerd is already difficult

[jolly wadi]

especially if youre from outer space

[snow palm]

I mean it is called trans purple for a reason

[jolly wadi]

is donatello gay?

[upper sail]

I thought that was Michelangelo? Wait are we talking the turtles or the original Italian artists?

[jolly wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/donatello-doubt-tmnt-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-donny-face-gif-12643363700601584259

[zenith osprey]

Bad take. Do you just want to be hateful?

[river salmon]

All of 4 of the turtles are straight

[snow palm]

Source?

[river salmon]

Each one has only had female love interests

[jolly wadi]

donatello rockin the purple and plays with a long stick....

[snow palm]

Sus

[river salmon]

I keep telling yall. Purple is the color of royalty

[jolly wadi]

it was supposedly the color of wisdom?

[snow palm]

I thought the were just joking honestly haha

[river salmon]

Donatello is not wise xD

[zenith osprey]

Never cared or thought about TMNT sexual orientation. Just bad ass ninja's kicking ass.

[upper sail]

What, I was talking about the Italian artists? Although Michelangelo the Italian also isn’t outright known for fact.

Oops wrong comment, Sorry Gundar.

[river salmon]

[hybrid mulch]

TMNT is literally bromance

[upper sail]

Well yeah, they’re brothers.

[hybrid mulch]

I never had non black transparent handheld before. How scratch resistant are Ayn other trans purple/blue shells?

[kind saffron]

I've reached the age where your made fun of if your not a nerd

Funny how that works sometimes

[river salmon]

Brotherhood, not bromance

[wintry prairie]

i'm publicly gay and a nerd and i've survived so far

i'll let y'all know if that changes

[jolly wadi]

are you from outer space too

[wintry prairie]

my publicist says i can't answer that question

[jolly wadi]

maybe youre not old enough for that reference

[slender palm]

https://tenor.com/view/excited-happy-birthda-happybirthday-gif-9829840

[wintry prairie]

i'm pushing 30. i'm just stupid.

[hybrid mulch]

I had one mock interview when I was young. Examiner asked me what I did for leisure time. I said making computer programs. Got bad score for it because I "had vocabulary problem" they thought I didn't know the word leisure.

[snow palm]

It all depends in what spaces you are haha.

[candid inlet]

Are the thumbstick caps replaceable? Are these the same hall sticks as on the Odin 2 and RP5?

[balmy vortex]

They look different, but I imagine they are still replaceable.

I want to customize mine like this:

[candid inlet]

I think I’m doing white to match my PSvita, DSi, and PSP. The black buttons do look better though (although it disrupts my matching devices!)

[candid inlet]

Being able to easily swap in large height joy sticks would be a game changer for playing dual stick gaming. Inset sticks are just not comfortable to me

[balmy vortex]

I want to match my Gameboy Pocket

[fluid cloak]

That looks awesome

[gilded pecan]

imma let you finish but the canonical name for this colorway is "panda"

[hybrid mulch]

Those triggers do look like panda ears

[balmy vortex]

Sure. I like Oreo though. Black on white is peak. This is what I did for my made up system:

[jolly wadi]

that reminds me. i wonder if theres a pocket dmg grip case

aw i dont have a 3d printer
https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/ayaneo-pocket-dmg-hand-grip-holder?srsltid=AfmBOooaIYUjqAlNVrP2zvlMUAw9KmZ9rBIQgAEBkv8Q-R8Qyayj7sYf

[candid inlet]

Is anybody buying the black TPU grip with the white device? I am not sure how I would feel about the clear

[sacred gorge]

Black grips and white devices usually goes well together imo

I don't know about ayn cause I haven't bought grips for my Odin devices but

My clear grips for the RP5 and RP4P yellow very quickly

[rocky sinew]

in the 90s I had a purple GBC (was in middle school) and was "worried" people might think I was gay, it was a dumb thing back then

[candid inlet]

You can use UV treatment to deyellow right? I’ve seen people do it on restoration channels. But it makes the device slightly more brittle

[crude tulip]

kinemi needs some pink handhelds

[frigid shore]

Which uh, probably don't want to do anything to these handhelds (even without a hinge) that would make the plastic more brittle, ahaha.

[candid inlet]

Don’t worry, the hinge on this one is “reinforced”

[river salmon]

Can this come out already so I can be sad i didn't pre order

[sacred gorge]

I want this so bad

[frozen laurel]

But for Thor

[zenith osprey]

I want this to be great.

[ember sail]

i think it'll be great, but its still early days for flip dual screen devices in this way so absolutely expect them to be GREATER thereafter

im excited to see what the various devs out there come up with in terms of apps and hacks

[zenith osprey]

Hindge and dual screen android can be a pain at times. Are my biggest wories for this.

[frozen laurel]

Honestly this is what I'm most amped about

All the tinkering that will go on

[ember sail]

can you imagine a DS style launcher?

[wheat creek]

you can use just the top panel and it's basically an odin 2 flip but with a portal level oled panel

or use bottom only and it's odin 2 mini

[wheat creek]

darkmode it

[errant dome]

Hearing gamma will be getting one is great news

The goat

[ember sail]

i've never used gammaOS, is it worth playing around with?

i know its well regarded

[errant dome]

It's great for the devices that will benefit from it like say the rg arc or other low power android handhelds.

[ember sail]

so a device with SD8g2 not so much?

[icy atlas]

More diminishing returns in terms of performance

But gamma is always cooking with tweaks that make it worth it on all devices

[hard heath]

There have been over 4,000 preorders from China so far

[sacred gorge]

It depends

Sometimes the benefits of gamma aren't from the performance

But from stuff like fixing controller profiles (so the devices spoofs an actual Xbox controller for games) etc

[steady ingot]

Oh I didn't realize Gamma worked on other devices. I'd only just started reading about it, but there are only a few devices listed as supported.

[sacred gorge]

Well he has to support it

[ember sail]

that all sounds really positive

ok if GammaOS comes out on Thor i'll give it a run

[river salmon]

I can't wait for stuff to get refined. Maybe someone can make an android version of the 3DS OS

[sacred gorge]

Like I have GammaNext on my 4 Pro and Pocket Classic

[ember sail]

that would be fun, same thing with the DS launcher, music and all

[sacred gorge]

Solely for the global remapping function

[ember sail]

we are so fortunate to have devs give their time like this

i've been working in tech & software for 20 years, the idea of doing more tech after work never crosses my mind

so its amazing that others will and do

[kind saffron]

It's amazing to put in that effort honestly. Why I don't mind paying gamma for the early access

Or paying for ES-DE

[river salmon]

Some people are very fortunate to be born with an inclination to keep doing one thing. Imagine if studying gave you the same dopamine as playing videogames or something

I worked with an engineer that tinkered and fixed yard tools after work.

[kind saffron]

I really like my job. But I like playing video games afterwards 😆

[river salmon]

Not if your job was playing videogames xD

[steady ingot]

I've been just starting to do admin stuff at work, so running our MDM software, setting up scripts to push out to computers, that sort of stuff. And just getting Home Assistant and such running at home. But when I see what people do for this community? I feel like a real dumbass.

[kind saffron]

Yeah. I think that'd ruin it

[river salmon]

Or at least not the videogame you play for your job

[steady ingot]

So yeah, I'm good throwing a few bucks to these devs. It's literally the least I can do.

[kind saffron]

It's like my SO and I have have hobbies we share and hobbies we don't. They're not really a gamer. But I can't help but think it might ruin it for me if they were. Lol

I also have no desire to keep plants inside the house

Well I couldn't keep them alive at least

[steady ingot]

Oh yeah, black thumb here

Plants don't have any desire to be near me

Also, cats that will eat them.

[ember sail]

honestly kicking a few bucks to devs like PPSSPP is the least i could do
if they werent doing this stuff, i'd have to play mobile gacha games

[river salmon]

Wut da hell

There needs to be a study done on gacha game player base

[ember sail]

i occassionally try to pick one up, but it never sticks
its definitely for some people

[river salmon]

But why

Who are these people

[ember sail]

'internet people'

[river salmon]

Who enjoys being cucked by the devs to be fed to the whales that spend $100,000+

[gentle notch]

F2P games were a mistake

[river salmon]

Most i would agree

[frigid shore]

I mean, it's literally a gambling problem.

[river salmon]

AND THAT'S NOT OKAY

[ember sail]

F2P games are good for people who cant afford full priced games, they definitely exist, but the practices that came out of micro transactions are predatory

[river salmon]

Are u in a board game discord by chance?

[frigid shore]

Yeah, but that's more on the companies preying on vulnerable people than the players, ahaha.

[frigid shore]

Nah

[river salmon]

No money, here's another reason to cry at night

[frigid shore]

Like, even people who don't spend money are just grinding for "free" pulls for that dopamine hit.

[river salmon]

It's 100% on people for supporting PoS games

[gentle notch]

Even the "good" ones like warframe force you to spend hours of grinding and wait for upgrades or pay up

[river salmon]

There are so many "legally sourced" games out there

[ember sail]

i think this is the key part, alot of media and games are just propping up what is a dopamine problem at a societal level

im not sophisticted enough to offer any alternatives but clearly stuff like gacha games and infinite scroll content are not good for us

[frigid shore]

I mean, outside of whales, most of the spenders are younger people or tech illiterate.

[river salmon]

Of course 😭

[ember sail]

dont forget that game Nikke - lonely people

its clear who they are targeting

[river salmon]

They should try being smarter or more intelligent

[frigid shore]

Like, it boggles my mind that the people who grew up with tech are the ones who are most vulnerable to tech-based predatory practices.

[river salmon]

Kinda weird ye

I keep telling my wife to stop falling asleep with her phone playing youtube

[frigid shore]

It's kind of the same with AI. The people growing up with it are the ones who will suffer the most to it.

Every time there's a huge advancement in QoL and stuff people are less likely to pick up certain skills growing up with it.

Critical thinking and problem solving are at an all time low and it's frustrating to see.

[river salmon]

:/

[frigid shore]

Even the desire to attempt to figure things out is lower than ever.

[river salmon]

Wait! Are we also lacking critical thinking when we pre-order Thor 😢

[frigid shore]

We sure are

We're now past the "You could've just googled/searched for this answer" phase since people will just ask whatever AI agent at hand and wholly believe what it tells them. 🥲

[river salmon]

:/

Very sad

[errant dome]

I like playing gacha games as f2p. It's the only way those games are a challenge. And when they're challenging the game mechanics can often be fun

Im ok to spend on a skin or something else cosmetic. But spending on pulls ruins the fun

Though, sometimes when the revenue is down they'll introduce some crazy wall that can only be surpassed by months and months of grinding or some sort of new meta unit, thats when it's time to quit

[river salmon]

What if you just played something that is difficult for everyone without microtransactions

[errant dome]

I play those too

Currently getting my ass kicked by the last boss in khazan

[river salmon]

I wish to fathom your mind one day

[errant dome]

😭

[river salmon]

It's like eating shit (gacha) and then having a fudge brownie with vanilla ice cream (khazan) after

Yummy yumm

[errant dome]

Funnily enough I was hyped for khazan cause I played dungeon fighter a lot

So gacha led me to that brownie

[river salmon]

I'd be hungry for some brownies too if all they fed me is fecal matter

I've played Clash Royale and Hearthstone for probs 1000+ hours each

[errant dome]

Hearthstone I played

[river salmon]

Hearthstone is actually, surprisingly a good F2P experience

Battlegrounds is some CRACK COCAINE

[errant dome]

But that one doesn't count for me in this context. I had access to unlimited packs

[river salmon]

🤨

[errant dome]

Having said that I played a lot of low cost decks like zoo

[river salmon]

Zoo 😍

I'll buy a Thor so I can play Hearthstone on top and watch Firebat/Day9 on bottom

[frigid shore]

Yeah, not all F2P is horrible, but man is it just an ocean of garbage.

[river salmon]

Spiral Knights was really good F2P too

[frigid shore]

It's a shame since F2P with purely cosmetic cash shop is entirely sustainable...but companies don't want just sustainable.

[slender palm]

didnt spiral knights have shitty stamina timers on everything tho

[river salmon]

Nah they removed energy requirement for gates if that's what you mean

[slender palm]

sounds good idk I played it like a bit when it came out

which was probably a decade ago

[river salmon]

Yeh. It's still going. Powered by whales buying lootboxes

No updates since 2016 i think

[frigid shore]

Most of the time stamina systems are just there to hide low content.
Once they have a decent amount they suddenly go "We hear your complaints and have removed the stamina system!"

Such good guy devs.

Totally listen to players.

[river salmon]

It was possible to play levels that were self sustainable. But really the content didn't increase after mist energy was removed

Imagine if Hades didn't have a credits scene and your gear load out was swappable at the beginning of each room. The rooms are much bigger than Hades, and there are 3 tiers of difficult as you descend. That's spiral knights

Have yall played Muck?

Really good survival game. Entirely free.

I'm very surprised it's completely free.

[frigid shore]

Sheepy: A Short Adventure is a solid 2D platformer that's also free.

[icy atlas]

wasn't here for this conversation but

[icy atlas]

want you two to know you're my favorite people in this server

[sacred gorge]

@grok is this true?

[latent roost]

I wish Ayn released a Dual Screen add on for their new 6inch 120hz OLED screen

[cloud aspen]

Wonder when we’ll see some reviews

[lavish crypt]

nicole from the ayn discord said review units should be shipped out mid sept

[dusky nebula]

decent attempt from chatgpt

[kind saffron]

Lol. The button text is always the dead giveaway

Don't worry. They'll be fine for assessing your insurance claim

[balmy vortex]

I look forward to comparing a N3DS XL to it. Size being practically the same. Specs being 100x better.

[vapid rain]

My New 2DS is starting to show its age, and I don’t mean just the battery life and bottom screen lighting having yellowed

The screen specs are just not fully cutting it anymore for me xd

[devout forge]

my dad's watch has like 100x the power

this thing is basically between the n64 and gamecube in terms of power

[snow palm]

I never really liked games on the 3ds and was always frustrated how pixelated for example pokemon looked like.

[fringe temple]

once you play them in a 2-3 + upscale resolution, its so hard to return to native 😄

[sacred gorge]

native is fine

i almost always play native res for my 3d systems

only exception is if it has downsampling

so it downscales to native

[devout forge]

Honestly what I am pretty shocked with is that if you try to play 3ds games on any other system without any upscaling everything looks so pixelated and chonky, while on the native 240p display they look fine

[snow palm]

I dont know to me they look really bad on a 3ds too. Like they always felt like games that were made on a way better spec computer and then just downscaled the resolution so it runs on 3ds

[elder wing]

Never had a problem playing them in native most times. Only exception I would give are like the early early titles like RE Revelations and SF4

[snow palm]

But its also on a game on game basis

Like i thought animal crossing looked pretty good, but pokemon sun and moon looks like im looking at a bunch of pixels.

[devout forge]

3ds screen is absolutely horrible, I just cannot understand why so many people decide to pay so much for the ips screens

[elder wing]

Cause TN is worse

Not 100+ more worse

But definitely worse

[snow palm]

To be fair using the 3d function made the games actually look somewhat decent in my experience.

I always used to have a hard time using the 3d function when i was younger finding the sweet spot, but now its seems pretty easy for me, maybe because of how often i use vr? Haha

[quick mantle]

372$ for lite model

Probably post tariff price 😭

[frosty vine]

just the 'ole aliexpress markup

[snow palm]

Who would ever but for that price

[left kiln]

I mean, people pay AYA prices 🤷🤣

[elder wing]

Ali always upcharges for rhe more expensive handhelds

Even before tarrifs

[jolly wadi]

resellers. is it anything new?

[snow palm]

What's the point if u can just preorder it right now for 100 bucks cheaper, it isn't even sold out or anything

[jolly wadi]

theyre trying to catch people who dont know about it

[steady ingot]

Man, I'm tempted to pay AYA prices for the Odin 2 mini. It's such a cool device.

Gimme that Vita that plays up to Switch any day

[left kiln]

Its so under appreciated. Just like the Vita itself was

[quick mantle]

true

saw odin 2 portal for like 800

dont even think it was the max

but the thing is if tariffs do get enforced then the lite will probably cost that much for people in the us

[river salmon]

For most yeah. I prefer native over upscale

[fringe temple]

fair 🙂

[frigid shore]

It depends on how nice the textures are for me and the style of the visuals.

[latent roost]

Ive spent some time with the 477m as I received it today. Im starting to think do I really want a Thor now lol. I appreciate the D Pad on top more than I thought I would. And the stick on the bottom isnt an issue unless its a dual analog game like an FPS. I own a DSi and New 3DS. I actually one of the rare few that love the stereo 3D effect so 3DS wont matter for me on Thor. And DS some games are just better with the stylus and mismatch of screen size wont make games like Sonic Rush optimal. Finally seeing RetroGameCorps input lag test showing an RP5 has double the input lag compared to original hardware. I think I may go with keeping the 477m for games up to PS2 and just use my DSi and New 3DS for the DS and 3DS games.

[frigid shore]

Upscaling definitely looks better on some games than others.

[snow palm]

I don't think I know any game were I prefer native

[latent roost]

I find it mainly play sprite based games on DS so the upscaling isnt a big deal for me

Also DSi I can use save states which my flashcart supports

[low lake]

dsi is just so fucking slow if you have more than 4 games

[snow palm]

I mean ye, 2d sprite games are different thing, they almost just as good on a regular ds probably

[latent roost]

What do you mean i have a 100 games in my flashcart

[snow palm]

I started up my 3ds a couple of days ago and. Didn't remember it loading games so slow, like it took a full minute to start up to the menu another one to load a game

[low lake]

it takes ages to clic through the games if you have more ... same with 3ds

[latent roost]

Your first message says DSi now you saying 3DS im confused

[low lake]

3ds is even worse ... it takes whole minute to load all icons in main menu

[latent roost]

On DSi if you have a flashcard the menu for the flash cart is instant

[low lake]

DSi is just is just mashing R million times

[frigid shore]

Games that show up in the DS/3DS OS, not games on a flash cart list.

[snow palm]

That wasn't me

[frigid shore]

The OS just chugs, it's awful.

[latent roost]

And DSi boots up into flashcart without loading OS

3DS I agree OS is a bit on the slow side

[low lake]

hmm maybe you got some nvme-speed flashkart vs mine that is sloooooooooow

[latent roost]

But man i love stereo 3D too much lol

[latent roost]

Na just a regular flashcart with SD card in it

Called DSOne

[upper sail]

Same here. If it’s a game that was mostly 3D, and especially if it was desperately trying to look better than what the system is able to handle (up to and including relying on the inherent “fuzziness” of interlacing to act as a “Bilinear filter before it existed”, in which the models look worse when they’re rendered more accurately), then I prefer upscaling.

If the game is mostly 2D pixel art, then I prefer keeping it native specifically so that the 3D models are pixelated enough to actually match up better with the pixel-art (or at least as low res as the textures can handle).

[low lake]

hmm let me check mine

[errant dome]

i was playing radiant historia 3ds with texture pack and upscaling. its like an hd 2d remake!

now i'll wait to finish it on the thor

[flint pumice]

Upscaling 3DS games look so good. Tried a few games on the flip 2 this week with 4x upscaling. They look amazing

Duo 1 can’t do 4x which is a bit disappointing. It does mostly 2x. But it can run Mario Kart 7 at 4x which is really surprising

It can’t even do 4x for Mario Kart DS using MelonDS.

[candid inlet]

Is it possible to dual boot rocknix from an SD card and android from internal storage on Odin 2?

Trying to decide if I want 1TB

[flint pumice]

I think so. It works on flip 2 at least

[candid inlet]

Another question, is ps3 emulation more stable with 16GB versus 12GB still? I saw RGC suggest that 16Gb may be helpful but that was 5 months ago and the emulators are surely better by now

[gentle notch]

16 GB is probably the safe option, it's also the recommended amount on the RPCS3 website

[gilded pecan]

would be very surprised if it makes any tangible difference over 12gb

[supple mason]

i think you may as well get the 16GB in your case, you also get 1TB of storage instead of 256GB so I don't think its a bad deal

[lavish crypt]

3ds is SO good upscaled with texture packs

a lot of the 3d system emulators support texture packs as well

ps2 and GC are also awesome heavily upscaled with texture packs

[candid inlet]

Are there any discount codes for the Retroid website?

[zenith osprey]

I don't think so.

[icy atlas]

me irl

[zenith osprey]

This is a retro handhelds discord.

[icy atlas]

There a joke I could make right now about the term "retro handheld" but just know I'm exercising restraint here

[red cairn]

Look he said small jeans and my brain went to this. I'm not accepting responsibility at this time

[gilded pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/disapproval-smh-bernie-sanders-head-shake-no-gif-15470964

[jaunty hull]

You know what they say about guys with small jeans right?

Small handhelds

[sacred gorge]

Is that a AYN Thor in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?

[vast ibex]

Why is that an or question?

If I weren't happy to see you I wouldn't have brought my AYN Thor™ in my pocket to see you.

[jolly wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/pizza-disaster-fire-gif-12899078

[balmy vortex]

What is a good reason for 12gb of RAM? I was considering going 12, but I honestly can't see a reason.

[sacred gorge]

8 gb isn't enough if you want to do high end Switch, Wii U, Windows emulation

[wispy fjord]

Also future proof more demanding native android ports.

If they put full on Subnautica on Android, it's only gonna get wackier from here

[hidden hollow]

For me, I only went 12 to get colour options

[hidden hollow]

Full on Subnautica IS on Android

[wispy fjord]

Yes

That is what I said

[balmy vortex]

Really? Isn't the switch and wii U only like 4gb of RAM?

[vast ibex]

I went with the Thor Pro option to be an on par version with my previous Odin 2 Pro, and current Odin 2 Mini Pro

[hidden hollow]

English language is tricky sometimes lol

[wispy fjord]

It is, that's true

[vast ibex]

Emulation requires more power than just what a console originally has.

[hidden hollow]

There is a noticable performance bump on 8gb Odin 2s when they figured out Ram Swap, so I'd say 12 is preferred

[balmy vortex]

Huh. The Wii U is only 2gb and the switch 4gb. How good is wii u android emulation these days? I did not know CEMU was ported recently.

[gilded pecan]

eh, it depends, most of switch and Wii U you'll actually be fine with 8gb

[sacred gorge]

Perhaps but it's what I consider the bare minimun

Considering the dual screen nature of the device

[balmy vortex]

Is it realistic to expect playable experience on BotW and TotK? I know this is the odin 2 chip, right?

[sacred gorge]

you'd probably want more than usual to run two apps across the screens

[sacred gorge]

BoTW should be fine with the Wii U version given enough time

[gilded pecan]

is there? the way I understood it the ram swap was there to help the very few games that would crash due out of memory, which was basically just totk

but otherwise a performance bump I don't remember seeing it

[sacred gorge]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/OdinHandheld/comments/1lr4mxf/tloz_breath_of_the_wild_wii_u_version_on_odin_2/
Seems quite stable at 30 and 60 in shrines

[gilded pecan]

depends on what counts as playable to you, if fps that fluctuates between 20 and 30 is okay to you (depending on the scene) then yes

but the recommendation continues to be to get a switch and play them there

[balmy vortex]

Close to switch level performance is playable. That sounds like it is fairly similar.

Probably a bit slower.

[gilded pecan]

expect a lesser experience with lower and more fluctuating fps compared to switch

Wii U botw may well be very viable though as @sacred gorge points out

[balmy vortex]

Figures. Someday I hope to have a pocketable system that can play practically every Zelda game. This is close, but not quite.

[balmy vortex]

I understand that CEMU android does not support duel screen. Maybe that will be patched pretty quick.

[timber escarp]

Imo future proofing is always a farce. Buy what you need now. By the time it's not enough it's going to be years from now, and you're going to want an updated handheld anyway

People tried to "future proof" with the pro and max model of the original Odin 2, and they're still here salivating over either the portal or the Odin 3.

[vast ibex]

Or the opposite problem

Switch emulation fucking dies lmao

[fresh pivot]

Let's think back to all the "this is endgame" handhelds we bought over the years.

[vast ibex]

Odin 2 Pro, traded for Odin 2 Mini Pro.

Getting a Thor Pro to replace Odin 2 Mini.

Seems power-wise I know where I'm at lmao.

[jaunty hull]

future proofing is a trap. dont ever buy these thinking about what could happen. get it for whats good now. by the time that the future arives, there are better devices.

[jolly wadi]

odin3 is here

[jaunty hull]

I got the Max for the expanded storage and winlator stuff.

[jolly wadi]

lmao its a rp5

[vast ibex]

I mean yeah

After the Portal what'd you expect?

[jaunty hull]

you mean RP6?

[jolly wadi]

oh yes

[jaunty hull]

ngl. not really thaat interested in it. but thats bcz Thor reasons.

[jaunty hull]

now if that was a Loki....then I'd like to hear more about it lol.

Iam interested in seeing the specs tho.

[vast ibex]

I'm assuming it's a 6 inch Odin 2 Portal with a Snapdragon 8 Elite. Not really anything crazy.

[jolly wadi]

im guessing thats the 6" oled

[vast ibex]

Yeah

[jolly wadi]

single screen thor

[vast ibex]

lol

Thor is just Odin 2 DS, but they didn't want a new Odin 2 so close to the release of the Odin 3.

[jolly wadi]

hmm.... odin 3 + RDS = cancel thor?!

[vast ibex]

Potentially I guess.

[jaunty hull]

and thor is a good name.

[vast ibex]

Fits with their naming scheme

[jolly wadi]

i dont need dual screen all the time....

[jaunty hull]

and makes sense to use as a second line of devices if they wanna keep it going in the future.

thor being the DS devices.

Loki if they ever do x86 again.

[jolly wadi]

but the rds looks so ugly/clunky. thor looks sleek

[vast ibex]

I do really want a new Loki. But in the actual style of the Lokis. Lower power, but generally lower price PC handhelds.

A very under-realized market atm imo.

[jaunty hull]

YES.

THATS EXACTLY WHAT IT SHOULD BE

[jolly wadi]

just get the ayaneo air

[jaunty hull]

lower spec to accomodate indie gaming on a small device.

[jolly wadi]

i take it back. its not great lol

[jaunty hull]

its the best we have currently.....which isnt great lol

but yeh, get a bazite or steamOS loaded low spec loki.

[vast ibex]

I don't care about playing modern AAA games in lower resolutions with 40-55FPS ranges. I want something smallish to play indies and maybe older PS3-era AAA games.

[jolly wadi]

its weak and doesnt power for long lmao

[jaunty hull]

thats why we need something new. more efficient. and preferably linux OS based for optimized battery.

[jolly wadi]

if the odin 3 doesnt have a signicant uplift in performance, ill jus stick with the thor

[jaunty hull]

it probably wont for many usecases until driver support comes out.

what are we even thinking chipset wise?

[vast ibex]

Yeah

I'm assuming the 8 Elite

[jaunty hull]

yeah thats what im thinking.

[vast ibex]

Only thing really warranting a big refresh

[jaunty hull]

which dont get me wrong. powerful.

[jolly wadi]

then it would be in direct competition with the konkr elite

[vast ibex]

So?

[jaunty hull]

thats a good thing.

[gentle notch]

Yeah nothing crazy just the first ever 8 elite handheld

[jolly wadi]

then konkr go bye bye cause its lcd lol

[vast ibex]

Isn't Konkr AyaNeo's "Budget" brand?

[jaunty hull]

yes.

[vast ibex]

It's totally on Ayn brand to undercut AyaNeo

[jolly wadi]

i think in partnership with someone else?

they dont outright say its ayaneo

[jaunty hull]

doesnt take much work. Ayaneo keeps screwing themselves over with their pricing schemes.

[jaunty hull]

Konkr is literally ayaneo's budget brand.

[vast ibex]

I mean, tbf, the times so far AyaNeo's done it, it's been priced reasonably.

[jolly wadi]

also id hate to order off their igg and wait FOREVER

[vast ibex]

The AyaNeo Pocket Air was completely fair for the market it released.

[jaunty hull]

until it launches. then watch the price go up 150+

[vast ibex]

Not their fault Ayn decided to release a fucking Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 device for $20 cheaper the next month.

[jaunty hull]

ayaneo does this BS where lots of their stuff is pricey but semi reasonable. but only in the early bird window.

[vast ibex]

And now we see again with the Thor vs Pocket DS, with Ayn undercutting in price by a good margin.

Granted they do at least have slightly different usecases.

With the Pocket DS being much bigger

[jaunty hull]

there are quite a few Ayaneo devices I woulda bought if they didnt raise the price 150 after launch.

[jolly wadi]

interesting. no ayaneo branding on the konkr at all

wouldve thought ayaneo konkr

[jaunty hull]

nah prob pulling a car company move

[vast ibex]

Man, now I just really want a new Loki.

[jolly wadi]

if the konkr had oled, it wouldve had a chance with me. i prefer their dpad

[vast ibex]

I love my Steam Deck, but it's just too bulky for me to really wanna use much these days.

[jaunty hull]

same but ROG Ally.

[upper sail]

Oh absolutely not for TOTK, BOTW though is relatively ok for the most part.

[upper sail]

This is what you can expect for the most part in TOTK.

[balmy vortex]

Wow. Very artifact-y.

Thanks for the insight.

[jolly wadi]

Same

[gentle notch]

Tetris qte

[upper sail]

And my example was with the Portal’s 8G2, so people can’t even claim it’s a G3X Gen 2 driver thing.

This is literally the exact reason why I’d prefer recommending a Modded Switch Lite if people really want better performance in switch games than stock unmodded switch in a handheld, because nothing less than maybe the Legion Go is gonna both be better than Switch in performance and also properly accurate in graphics.

[jolly wadi]

i find my dmg run ttok better than my rog ally lmao

but i havent touched my ally in a while

also still waiting for taki's switch lite oled mod

[upper sail]

They still haven’t sent it to you yet? Damn, I got mine, but it still sucks to hear others haven’t yet.

[jolly wadi]

mine was the mega kit with touch

still in finalization stage?

[upper sail]

Ah, I got the same, but I downgraded from the Mega HDMI kit with Touch.

[balmy vortex]

So, is botw just the same without the artifacts?

[upper sail]

Well it’s less artifacts, not none at all. The reason I said it’s pretty good comparatively is because TOTK, even with the above and with a sub-native 0.5x resolution, still has a really fucking unstable framerate that’s just plain awful for the most part. Meanwhile BOTW is a good bit more smoother at native handheld resolution, but only at like 25-30fps instead of TOTK’s 10-20 fps average with only a few exceptions that go up to 30fps.

[balmy vortex]

Ah. I see. But Cemu does BOTW fairly well?

[upper sail]

I haven’t messed as much with Cemu for BOTW so I can’t really answer that myself.

[balmy vortex]

Ok. I'll try it on my phone since it's a pretty similar chip. Thanks for the info

[gentle notch]

Aight so odin 3's a wash, guess I'm getting a max sku for this

[vast ibex]

lol

[torpid reef]

why is it a wash?

[vast ibex]

Going by how they reacted in the Odin 3 channel, they do not like the ergo bumps on the back.

[gentle notch]

https://tenor.com/view/correct-plankton-gif-14118231

[vast ibex]

Personally I usually prefer no grips, but I found the normal Odin 2's grips pretty good.

But that kind of stuff is all pretty subjective, outside of extremes I guess.

[wispy fjord]

They'd hoped for flat?

[gentle notch]

Yeah

[wispy fjord]

Fair enough. Bumps on the RP5 don't bother me, but I'm also not mad about flat Thor either. so I guess it depends.

[vast ibex]

For me built in grips are just weird. They seem to just not get the job done, and you'll probably need a grip anyway if you need ergo support.

Though I can't imagine the Steam Deck as a flat back, that'd definitely be uncomfortable.

[gentle notch]

Can't agree more tbh, that's why it bothers me because they had those on the Odin 2 portal, just to sell a grip anyway 😭

Same with rp5

[vast ibex]

But I've used things like an RG28XX, normal Switch, and a 3DS/3DS XL with no grip or other ergonomic additions for hours fine.

It's my Super Power™

But It's also not the end of the world for me personally if they do have ergo bumps.

I generally just prefer the smaller profile of flat. Or at least it leaves my options open I guess.

[gentle notch]

Yeah, I mean big grips are pretty much a requirement for heavy x86 handhelds, but for smaller handhelds I feel like they're a bit unnecessary. Most of the time the handhelds are so light that playing them isn't that strenuous

I could go on a long rant but I think I'm just going to leave it at that 😂

[vast ibex]

Glass front especially but also a tad ergo bumps is why I went with the RP4 Pro when I wanted to try out a smaller device than my Odin 2 Pro.

[gentle notch]

I do love the grips on the rg cube though tbh, I think it works really well on that

[vast ibex]

The real curse of the RG Cube for me was the dpad. I am just a big hater of the shield/Xbox/Sega style dpads.

[jaunty hull]

yeah I prefer my handhelds without ergonomic grips. buut. thats bcz I will just use a grip with it at home, but want to be able to remove it and make the device easier to carry lol.

[jaunty hull]

wild. that was a huge selling factor to me. but the screen issues killed my interest in the device. but the RPC happened and thats perfect.

[kind saffron]

Hopefully Odin 3 has a good sweet spot

I don't really want to add grips if I don't have to. And having it fit in the official case is always nice without having to remove them

[vast ibex]

Yeah for me if it's not a cross style dpad a la Sony/Nintendo I don't want it.

[vast ibex]

See, now they're just sell a second case that has enough room for a grip. Instead of just getting the ergonomics right the first time on the device lmao.

[kind saffron]

Haha. The Thor has 2 right?

[vast ibex]

Yeah

Granted at least this thing has no ergo pre-built in.

[kind saffron]

I mean in this case I get it. Cause I really do want it to be as compact as possible most of the time

Yeah throwing ergos on ergos seems dumb to me

Like I feel if the rp5 had just skipped the back bumps it would have been more interesting

Or go with little dimples like the o2m

[vast ibex]

the dimples do kinda help ngl.

Though I do think how rounded the left and right sides are helps as well.

[kind saffron]

Yeah. I just like the flat back with indents more than protruding little hills that do little

Tho the RP5 also just struggled from having sticks in a poor place

[vast ibex]

I'm also someone that doesn't really have a strong preference with the left stick placement lol.

[sacred gust]

Did you have an issue with the o2 if you have one? Else o3 should be the same if not better with the inset inputs.
Grips seem the same if not slightly more

[kind saffron]

It's not even that the stick wasnt on top. It's that both were so close to the bottom

[vast ibex]

I never really had an issue with my O2

I just found that over all I prefer a more smaller handheld.

[kind saffron]

Felt like I was holding an offering whenever I needed to use both rp5 sticks

[vast ibex]

Honestly an RP4 is about my right size for a 16:9 device.

[kind saffron]

Well I'm sure an o3m is on its way

Loved the Odin 2 for comfort. And it looks like they didn't sacrifice it

[vast ibex]

Yeah, but I'm sure it'll be a glass front device.

It's the hot trend of mid-high to high tier power/price handhelds, and it is not going away any time soon.

[kind saffron]

Eh. I feel like the damage concerns were overblown. Or at least past the first 2 or 3 posts I haven't seen any more

[vast ibex]

Yo Ayn, if you could make those stickers for the Thor that Retroid made for the RP5 to cover the glassfront, that'd be amazing. Even more so if you didn't slap your name all over said sticker

[kind saffron]

I don't rest enough on the glass to find it uncomfortable either. As long as the back and grip material isn't shitty

[vast ibex]

I just don't like the feel of glossy devices in my hands, and I hate the smudges a lot.

[slender palm]

yeah thats trimUI thing, putting their name in 12 places

[kind saffron]

Shocked you ever owned an Ayn. It's not like the back will be smudge free (or the front either even when it was wrapped in plastic) 😆

[vast ibex]

The O2M is much much less smudgy than the black O2 from what I've seen in pictures/real life.

[kind saffron]

And your hands really don't feel the gloss. Or I never did on RP5 or portal. Only thing I really touched on the front was touch screen or controls

[kind saffron]

True. It is better. Back is just as bad. But the front did better, maybe just because there was a lot of stuff going on to break up the view

[vast ibex]

It's also why until the O2M, which only had Black and White as options, I had gone with transparent colors lol. My blue O2 felt great.

[devout forge]

Remember all the odin 2 latency problems people kepz talking about? Well now that will be completely fixed.

[kind saffron]

Dunno if I ever noticed. But I'm not a latency shark so you shouldn't ask me

[kind saffron]

It will be interesting to see what color they go with for the transparent. I'd bet there is one

[vast ibex]

tbh I don't see myself buying another Android device after the Thor

It's basically what I wanted after the Flip 2 came out, an Odin 2 Flip.

[devout forge]

speaking of sharks

[vast ibex]

Linux devices? Sure I could think of some kind of form factor I'd find neat enough to blow ~$60 on.

[kind saffron]

Yeah. I'm likely skipping this round too. The only temptation is non ass ergos for me

[devout forge]

I am pretty touchy about latency so I guess you could call me a latency shark

[kind saffron]

Both konkr and o3 look comfy at least

[gentle notch]

The odin 3 screen will be rotated 3 times

[jaunty hull]

yet. lol

[vast ibex]

I mean, I've always been in the Wii/PS2 and down camp.

I don't need more than that.

[kind saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/shark-gif-21621271

[vast ibex]

That and selling/trading older handhelds has recouped/prevented most of my loss from buying higher end handhelds.

[kind saffron]

Yeah. Thors the real banger here. But I'm guessing the o3 will have a shocking price point

[vast ibex]

Sold the RP2S and RP4 Pro and that got me about half of what I needed for the Thor Pro. Could always sell the O2M after the Thor gets here and recoup the rest of it.

Traded my O2 for an O2M so that was no cost outside of shipping.

[jaunty hull]

yeh sold my 4pro a month ago to a friend. found I was preferring the RPC way more lol.

[vast ibex]

I got the RP4 Pro after I got the Odin 2. With the idea that I would sell whichever I preferred less. And then I ended doing a shot in the dark trade request here, O2 for O2M, and it actually happened. Then finally months later I sold the Pro 4.

[wispy fjord]

I'm sad the Odin got extra back buttons but not the Thor. Where's my dedicated "fastforward" button. :(

[jolly wadi]

who is they?

and what do they know of the ergo?

[jaunty hull]

you know wht tho? imagine they added the capability to use the bottom screen as extra buttons that you could map to emulation controls?

[vast ibex]

That is a nice cope
/jk

[jaunty hull]

oh yeh its prob not happening, just would be cool.

[wispy fjord]

Huh, it might be, but would also not be useful for the dual screen games.

[vast ibex]

But yeah, said it before and I'll say forever, it's been very annoying for me how the mid-high/high bracket handhelds have been so inconsistent with extra buttons, except for AyaNeo lmao.

to be fair, the DS you have the L2/R2 buttons to bind to that kind of stuff, and for 3DS, only a select few games even use L2/R2. Also L3/R3 since neither use those.

[jaunty hull]

dual screen games are less of an issue, DS only needs one L and R. so L2 R2 are mappable.

3DS technically has L2 R2 but so few games use them.

also click sticks in.

[kind saffron]

To be fair, Ayaneo could add or remove a button and I'd never know. Cause they add like 15 extras

[wispy fjord]

Yep, some 3DS games do use them. And I suppose L3/R3 exist but I don't like clicking the sticks.

[vast ibex]

I guess Wii U it could be a problem but I somehow doubt Cemu has any real emulation hot keys, when Yuzu/forks don't.

[wispy fjord]

I don't play games where it's normal, lol.

[vast ibex]

But yeah, I imagine a bottom screen doing emulation hot keys is something that'd be done by emulation devs, rather than something you could do system wide.

[jaunty hull]

I just meant as a generic, controller input software.

[dark aurora]

Price drops back down pretty fast after it hits their site. Same with ayn, its on sale more often than its not.

Like the ace only just came out of igg and its already at EB prices on their site.

[lilac cobalt]

I hope this isn’t tariffed to heck in October

[torpid reef]

I wouldn't worry about tariffs actually sticking at any point, Trump is literally just running the largest insider trading scheme in history.

[fading anvil]

I just hope I can get a good Black Friday deal

[fluid cloak]

I was thinking this but it did go through, i got notice about my preordered UK stuff getting a 10% fee and japanese stuff getting 15% lol

Gonna suck if i actually have to pay on some of those, might end up needing to full cancel

There are some small businesses i like for importing games that are getting hit hard by the shipping methods getting closed off too, it's so shitty

[slender palm]

of all the cheap countries they can route through idk still seeing 15%-20% tax rates

and the 15% ones are mostly ME/Africa which is a postal black hole gfl if its routed through there

Maybe via Turkey at 15% but idk postal situation from there cant be all that bad and shouldnt be too expensive to reship

[rugged orchid]

I'm thinking of changing from Pro to Max, but I wonder if I will really need that extra ram. Also, will changing the order push me back in the queue?

[latent roost]

Thats it im not falling into FOMO. Im not getting a Thor. Using 477M for Retro systems has been incredible. I just cant imagine playing on a Thor where 90 percent of the time the 2nd screen is turned off. And D Pad on bottom means a lot of retro style games wont be optimal.

I also assume Thor will be less o
Pocketable than a 477M. Although 477M is slightly wider, the Thor is slightly taller and thicker then it also has stacked shoulders.

Also Im a huge fan of stereo 3D, no matter what I just cant give that up for 3DS games and i already own a hacked New 3DS. Also many DS games just play better with a proper stylus, and the mismatch of screen sizes for top and bottom for DS games bothers me.

Ill wait for Thor 2 in 2-3 years time when my desire for 16:9 screen and D Pad on bottom grows. I'd like Switch, PS3 and Winlator to gain much more ground and compatability without too much tinkering before I jump in.

[serene goblet]

the biggest thing keeping me from immediately ditching my Razer Edge for the Thor is the dpad placement

literally that's it

I might just get it anyway depending on what reviewers say on the ergonomics

I play kaizo mario on my Razer Edge and I've adapted to dpad bottom but dang. if the Thor was dpad top I'd have immediately preordered

[devout forge]

if you only wanna play wii, gamecube, ps2 and below you are gonna be fine with your rg477m

however the thor is in a different price bracket to begin

the rg477m should theoretically be better for gamecube than the sd865 model which it competes with in terms of price

rg477m is also much thinner and it has dpad on top which would give it an edge for 2d games

[latent roost]

Yes price is another factor i bought my 477m on sale for £165 and a SDG2 Thor is £230

I wont plah DS games on 477m as I have a DSi but still not bad lol

[serene goblet]

holy based
i played ds games like that on my 405M and had a great time

[devout forge]

300 dollars? you know the sd865 is only 250 dollars right?

[latent roost]

Id never buy a Thor with SD865 even still thats £190 vs £165 477m

SD865 struggles with some PS2 and Wii at 2x

477m its all plug and play for PS2 and Wii

[devout forge]

yeah, I've had some slowdowns on my sd870 at start of races or shocks in mariokart wii, definitely put my expectations in place

[latent roost]

But again price is just one minor factor for me it was the D Pad and 4:3 and slimmer form factor that won me with 477m

[devout forge]

everybody keps yapping oh the sd865 is perfect for ps2, gamecube and all that, well not really

it is completely playable

it really made me more skeptical about what I hear people say

when they say playable do they also mean that it there is audio glitching when too much is happening at once?

[latent roost]

Im surprised you didnt go for thr 477m with D Pad on top and low latency 120hz 4:3 screen

[devout forge]

but whatever, maybe my standards are just too high I guess most people who just wanna have some fun on the go it doesn't really matter

like people are fine with playing snes consoles on flatscreen tvs with composite, when I asked him about it he just said looks fine to me

[serene goblet]

the 477m was definitely appealing to me, but there were enough compromises that made me go "meh. just gonna keep using my Razer Edge"

[devout forge]

normal people don't have high standards

[serene goblet]

metal in my experience with the 405M just kinda sucks. less battery life, heavier, warmer
i prefer widescreen on android; black bars on 4:3 retro games don't bother me at all + i like using widescreen hacks

• android games are almost all better widescreen

• streaming

ok one last yap, even without widescreen hacks i like using shaders like this

[snow palm]

I picked 865 cause I really only care about upscaled 3ds and ds and it seems to be close to perfect most of the time. I thought about getting the 300 option but if you going for a sd8 gen 2 might as well go for the 12 gb ram to really make use of the chip . And I'm not in the mood to pay 100 more when 90% of the time I will be using it for 3ds and ds and it being an impulse buy to begin with .

[full wigeon]

Maybe I will finally upgrade from my Base Odin 1.

[latent roost]

Depends on use case I guess. I dont like widescreen. The widescreen hacks stretch 2D elements like 2d textures etc, game UI. I prefer to play games designed for 4:3. Also some widescreen hacks i noticed 3D model popin as games were not designed with widescreen in mind.

As for Android games I dont think im interested in any

Gamestreaming I prefer a larger screen so I gamestream on my hacked Switch OLED or my ROG Ally if I need to. Modern games have too much detail and streaming on a tiny screen is rough for me.

[full wigeon]

Do you think there would be a way to stretch the top screen onto bottom for some kind of pseudo big screen with bottom corners and middle cut off

[serene goblet]

@ kalos I think that's a totally fair viewpoint to have, especially since you have multiple handhelds with big 16:9 screens already

[full wigeon]

Can you show a zoomed in view on bottom screen of the top screen? Might be cool tactical.

Like an FPS where bottom screen is just always zoomed into centre.

[snow palm]

I mean 2d element stretch is bad, but most 3d widescreens just change the camera I think, but I'm the same I rather play 4:3 games in 4:3, it just looks prettier to me, and I hate those huge black borders on a 16:9 screen. Like I don't care about huge bezels at all, but unused screen specs bothers me endlessly .

[full wigeon]

Maybe bottom screen magnifier can just be zoomed into a minimap or HUD element or something too.

[dark aurora]

Keep in mind its 15-20% of manufacturing cost. As long as they claim a believable low number it is highly unlikely to be flagged.

So you wont end up paying 15-20% of 300-400 but maybe 100 or less.

[snow palm]

Aslong as it's under 150 I don't have to pay import costs. 👍

[flint pumice]

That would be a nice feature and will increase the usage of the second screen. I think the windows Ayaneo Flip 1s DS has such feature. Not sure if it’s possible to implement such feature on Android

[fringe temple]

good choice 🙂

[placid vortex]

Im taking the 477m over the retroid flip 2

[gilded pecan]

in case you missed it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LxhCdeFai0&t=1793s&pp=ygUUam9leSByZXRybyBoYW5kaGVsZHM%3D

Joey seems to imply the Thor preorders were massive

[low lake]

i have seen someone mathing ... and was like 3 imes of what portal did in first day iirc

[vapid rain]

Ngl, rather happy to admit I was likely wrong about a dual-screen handheld being niche compared to single-screen clamshells.
Turns out good amount of people do want one

Don’t think Thor would’ve hit anywhere as hard if it was just one screen

[vernal niche]

can someone make a thread for anbernic's new upcoming flip device? RG477SP

[gilded pecan]

At this point dual screen handhelds are proving to be more popular than single screen clamshells

[vernal niche]

RG477SP

[snow palm]

I mean they are fairly new so everyone wants at the very least a ds emulator device

[gentle notch]

Don't know how anybody thought it'd be any different tbh

[wheat creek]

thor can also just be a higher spec in soc + screen than the flip 2

[gilded pecan]

unironically think we'll see someone make this sooner or later

[wheat creek]

with a sprinkle of hopium that the hinge is improved

[vapid rain]

Wait, is that actually confirmed? :o

[vernal niche]

its anbernic next handheld

[gentle notch]

No

[snow palm]

2 a buttons

[vapid rain]

Just talking in general, not the image

[gentle notch]

Yeah still no