AYN Thor

[kind saffron]

It's something that if like blackberry had created would have been hailed as the ultimate businessman's companion

[frosty vine]

i dunno, it genuinely made me less productive. RIP BB, really wanted to love the Priv

android also really doesn't like PKB tho

[kind saffron]

I mean in the end of your serious you still just have a laptop

[frosty vine]

i just like PKB, was huge into the Palm Pre back when

[kind saffron]

Watching execs take 10 mins to do something on an iPad I could do on a laptop in 3 was peak this is dumb. Lol

[gritty tusk]

ahh well that's where maybe our experiences differ. I've never attempted using Duo as a phone.. only as a multi-tasking device / ds emulation handheld.

[kind saffron]

Yeah. The phone experience was meh

Software was also half baked at launch which didn't help the experience

The normal wait 2 major revisions before MS gets it right applied

[gritty tusk]

I mean, the only actual phone use case is calling.. social apps are still great on Duo.. discord, reddit, insta, etc.

But for phone calling / pick up. Maybe that would be wonky. Idk

[kind saffron]

Originally it would just do things like not recognize if the screens were flipped. Camera room forever to launch. Cameras are a big phone thing for people

[frosty vine]

yah lg was at it for years & it was still half baked in the final iteration, so many times i was out & something would wonk out on me when i actually need it, maps or something would crash, keyboard would be acting weird etc etc, hardly took calls on it, just saying it sucks to use out in the world

[nocturne sedge]

Do you guys know how long does it usually take for them to ship preorders?

[kind saffron]

Should have been where they started instead of Windows phone. They'd be in a total different place now

[wintry prairie]

lg phones were fun. too ambitious for their own good tho. they had cool ideas but were constantly shooting themselves in the foot.

[fringe temple]

we don't know yet. If it's like the Odin 2 and Portal, shouldn't be too long

[nocturne sedge]

Ok, I'm moving soon and I was wandering which address should I use xD

[fringe temple]

I'd be prepared for possible delays, though as this is not an IGG who knows 🙂 hopefully not

[gritty tusk]

I wouldn't pre-order in your case. It's only a $10 savings

[nocturne sedge]

Thats a good point, i just feel FOMO but also its a good thing to wait to see if hinge works well

[upper sail]

Yup, I’m planning on getting it eventually, but definitely still gonna wait and see what the hinge is like.

I won’t lie when I say the fact it’s so similar to the Flip 2’s worries me a bit.

[rare rampart]

^

I like the price

Like the specs

But Hinge is a worry for me and honestly Ayaneo I think has the advantage in that department

Since they have done a couple hinges already

[gritty tusk]

I'd spend an extra $10 and getting it a bit later than everyone else to wait on reviewers to beta test it first. Especially knowing this is a sister company of Retroid and could possibly be reusing the same hinge

[nocturne sedge]

Im 90% sure its the same hinge, but hopefully they will improve the materials and/or the hinge

[rare rampart]

Won't lie though I'm wondering to myself if what I actually want is the Pocket DS

[nocturne sedge]

Let's hope their engineers know the reason why it doesnt work on Flip2

[wheat creek]

idk if ayaneo's hinges are actually better or they just ship less units overall

[rare rampart]

I like AYN but also never had a Ayaneo device

[wheat creek]

their flip is also a x86 device which probably gets babied more/doesnt get put in pockets

[gritty tusk]

I won't lie either. I have no interest in Thor but I like hanging out here to talk DS since #1394584145736499201 is a bit too quiet 😅

[rare rampart]

See that is the thing though Ayaneo seems to pump out so many devices

That it's hard to get excited for their devices?

[wheat creek]

preordered the ayanei pocket ds literally just because it has microswitches for dpad

[rare rampart]

Like they seem to have a new one every week

[left kiln]

I think they announced 11 new things in their last big livestream?

Which is nuts

[rare rampart]

The thing is what is stopping them from doing a Pocket DS Pro

In like another month

[gritty tusk]

They also run on a made to order business model. Once the IGG ends, you'll be hard pressed to find more stock. Some devices end up pretty desirable and retain their value because of this.. But they are also pretty overpriced to begin with

[fading anvil]

Loving the new info for the Thor

[left kiln]

You need to start selling organs if you want AYA devices at retail prices

[gritty tusk]

true, but just enjoy what you have. Because you bought it at a time when you liked what they offered. There will always be a new shiny toy around the corner and I like that they keep innovating and not resting on their successes

[fading anvil]

idk if I want to do early bird orders, because a Black Friday deal might be even better

that is if the Thor is still in stock

[wide thorn]

Yeah, $250 for the 865 pretty much sealed it for me. That'll easily cover DS and 3DS with room to spare.

[rare rampart]

I guess ahaha

[nocturne sedge]

Sd865 and base 8g2 are crazy good offer

[rare rampart]

True be told I already lost enough money through buying and selling to get a new device.

Just trying to find "THE ONE"

[nocturne sedge]

Depends where you live I usually dont loose anything

[rare rampart]

Kind of how the Nintendo DS was

[rare rampart]

NYC for me

[prime pivot]

you know what's the most useful ?
during fight game, and using a character such as zangief, macro 2 full rotation atomic buster.

[rare rampart]

I think I have about $150 in lost cash at this point

[nocturne sedge]

Im in EU and usually I even profit from selling my old handhelds xD

[prime pivot]

if i can multiplayer the better, the power of device superiority, ohh your device can't macro? too bad for u

[hushed ridge]

I was only in the market for a DS/3DS device, but for those prices I’m thinking about Switch and Winlator…

[snow notch]

The only rocket flip 2 I see is for 250. So I guess getting this is easy buy

[rare rampart]

Lucky you!

To be fair though I wouldn't have lost so much if I stop FOMO

[hushed ridge]

What does 12GB RAM get compared to 8?

[rare rampart]

Better Switch smoothness I think

If you plan on playing Switch

[lavish crypt]

8g of ram runs plenty of switch still lol

[rare rampart]

And also probably great for Windows

[vapid rain]

Better Switch, Winlator potential, better HD Textures performance, that sorta thing

[lavish crypt]

its nice for winlator and hd textures

yea

[hushed ridge]

How much better is Winlator with that? The other two are just nice-to-haves for me

[lavish crypt]

but its not that much of a game changer, you would go pro for the internal storage and colors over the 4g of extra ram tbh

[hushed ridge]

Is it as straightforward as going from 8 to 12GB for Windows?

[lavish crypt]

no

[hushed ridge]

Eh, I’m fine with black and I have a spare 1TB SD card anyway

[vapid rain]

I’m ideally keeping this device for 5-7 years tops, so 12gb would go a long way for me

[lavish crypt]

i got the pro model with my og odin 2 and the base model with my portal and i don't feel lik ei lost anything

[rare rampart]

^

This device is endgame for me

[lavish crypt]

i also have had no issues dealing with 8g of ram on the flip 2 either

[rare rampart]

IF there are no issues

[lavish crypt]

i've said that twice already

[kind saffron]

Yeah it's hard to think what I'd replace this with in the next 5 years. 12gb probably a good safety net

[snow notch]

It says you can pre-order on website but I don't see it

[lavish crypt]

yea i can't see the pre order anywhere

[hushed ridge]

I just wish that bottom screen was a better size and resolution, it’s the only thing holding me back

[lavish crypt]

but i am gonna wait for reviewers to get units first

[rare rampart]

I only been in the handheld space for about a year but this was always the goal for me I think

[lavish crypt]

a little over a year for me and my main line up is already: o2 portal, flip 2, rp classic, and 2023 y700

[rare rampart]

So many devices

[lavish crypt]

i only have 9

[snow notch]

What if they made a device like this?

[lavish crypt]

people have WAAAAAAY more than me

[rare rampart]

For me I try to keep only one

[latent roost]

I think for thr SD865 model they should have had D Pad on top and inline buttons. Would make it more unique and more pocketable

[rare rampart]

Rp3+ (Gave to Brother), Rp5

So only two device for me at the moment

But that doesn't go through all the devices I have tried T.T

[snow notch]

Isn't this too big to be pocketable in general?

[kind saffron]

And this seems like a great one. Especially if you want portability. All that's missing is a bottle opener

[jolly wadi]

when is preorder?

[rare rampart]

To be fair I realize portability wasn't as important to me as I realize after owning a O2M lol

[jolly wadi]

i might have calmed my tits to not buy one....

[rare rampart]

Although the clamshell might change that

Yeah I'm spiraling right now

My wallet can handle it but not my mental lol

[kind saffron]

Yellow - 3DS
Blue - Thor
Red - 3DS XL
Green - Pocket DS

I can pocket an XL so I'm thinking this will work

[vapid rain]

I pocket my New 2DS XL completely fine without any real issues, so I should have little trouble with this

[kind saffron]

Almost same height. Less width. And a little thicker

[latent roost]

Its less wide than a New 3DS XL and I can fit that easily in my pocket

[wide thorn]

How did they fit a 6" screen in a handheld that small? 🤨

[kind saffron]

Edge to edge

It may be why the top has no lip

[wide thorn]

Bit thicker though. I can just barely fit an XL in my pocket so this is right at the edge.

[latent roost]

Screen to body ratio on this is insane

[latent roost]

Yeah thars why i said a SKU with inline shoulders would have been cool

[kind saffron]

It's def not the most pocket friendly size

Might be first 8g2 that'll fit in a pocket tho. Heh

I would have also been fine with in line shoulders

If you did those instead it'd probably be the same thickness as an XL. Which would be pretty impressive

Part of me wonders if the wider back is kinda needed for airflow tho

[latent roost]

Honestly don't care for Triggers I dont play many games that require analog input

Also Triggers tend to have more ways it can break

[prime pivot]

foldable display will never get to mainstream.

there's something call "material bend fatigue".
those bend that looks cool will not be so cool few years down the line.

And please dont buy into "but these device has been rigorously tested hundred thousand bend test" it must've STRONG! BS.

Plastics or Polyehylene, When it's done in Lab test, they only test bending repeatly, so these plastic basically specifically only test bend alone.

Plastics degrades with time, UV, Heat, Oxygen, Not with Bend.
500k of Bending done within days does not prove anything but misleading people into thinking these bendable display will last long.

[snow notch]

Ok counterpoint. Have tou considered its cool? So I'm buying

[prime pivot]

yeah its cool

if you have the money, go ahead.

[kind saffron]

Hold up. Where is airflow?

Is this thing not actively cooled?

[snow notch]

I agree with you durability is concern. Problem is at the point those phones go for. It's for people with more money than sense

[prime pivot]

what device?

[kind saffron]

The thor

No vents on back

[prime pivot]

wait.. you serious ?

[kind saffron]

So like. Does it vent?

[jaunty hull]

they literally show active cooling in the promo vid......

[frosty vine]

wut

[kind saffron]

Oh. Lol. So it intakes and vents on bottom?

[jaunty hull]

this has to be bait....

[nocturne sedge]

I was looking for that picture 😄

[kind saffron]

Ah. Ok

I was like damn

I mean usually they do intake on bottom vent out back

It's not that weird to expect it

[prime pivot]

no, i think Zee just proves something

the render is hastily made

they forgot to add vents on the back

[frosty vine]

intake is what you're looking at, vent would be on top in that pick

[snow notch]

Air goes in air goes out

Noone can explain that!!

[kind saffron]

Guess it might do so diagonally between triggers

[rare rampart]

It just exhausts all over the place

[frosty vine]

oops lol, someone forgot

[kind saffron]

Lol

[left kiln]

Zeelobby. Save your money for new glasses

[kind saffron]

Leaks out the screen

[rare rampart]

Works like a hand warmer

[prime pivot]

thanks, you're sharp.

atleast now i know i need to wait until someone gets the review unit to properly test the device before i buy it

[rare rampart]

Yeah same

Time to order a Pocket DS

[kind saffron]

Point on the doll where the vents are #1407322274071314492 message

[left kiln]

You said no vents on the back 😏

[snow notch]

Prime ds experience. You have to blow on the device to cool it

[wheat creek]

positive pressure handheld

[jaunty hull]

they actually route the warm air out at the joysticks.

[kind saffron]

Yeah. Like back as in front lip being front. Back lip being back. Technically it's it's bottom

Like a laptop. The ports are on the back

Fucking clams. Making things all complicated

[prime pivot]

so... i think it is condition 2... which means i will wait until hinge issue is fixed and not exist on Thor.

[kind saffron]

I dunno. There's enough there that it doesn't look like a hatchet job

Might not be fully baked either

[jaunty hull]

hard to really say much yet tbh.

[nocturne sedge]

fortunately they had alpha testers when Flip 2 released

[prime pivot]

it certainly will bake some egg with no vents.

[jaunty hull]

Im curious about how output would work for the device lol

[kind saffron]

Unless they use some kind of warmhole technology to send the heat to another dimension

[prime pivot]

NO WAIT

MAYBE IT SERVE AS A HAND WARMER

[left kiln]

Looks like the venting is on both sides

[kind saffron]

Lol. Ports also on the bottom

[cloud aspen]

What does a 3ds/3dsxl weigh?

[kind saffron]

Or. Imagine this. The triggers are actually smoke stacks and not triggers

[nocturne sedge]

I know its just the lighting but I would love a bronze-metallic version

looks so gooood

[frigid shore]

I'm going to be so upset if where I rest my pinky/ring fingers lands right on top of the power button 😅

[frosty vine]

i'm actually not entirely sure now, the video has it blowing out from the back as well

[prime pivot]

according to AI
N3DS 253g
N3DS XL 329g

[kind saffron]

I'd take it in plastic. The rg477m looks awesome. I just don't want a metal bar to carry around

[frosty vine]

love the 477m, but i don't pocket stuff

[prime pivot]

do you notice something special? the screw hole for the fan flips to another side.

[nocturne sedge]

yes, of course, plastic, I hate metal handhelds, they are real hand warmers

[jaunty hull]

I mostly dont except my RPC fits perfectly in my shirt pocket lol

[kind saffron]

I think it angles it out under here

[prime pivot]

from the right picture, if the vent was facing ahead of you, the screw hole should be at the left, not the right

[frosty vine]

what

[prime pivot]

you get what i mean ?

[frosty vine]

no idea

[kind saffron]

It's also upside down in one

[nocturne sedge]

I wonder if its possible for keyboard to only appear on the bottom screen

[kind saffron]

So you got a reverse it

[prime pivot]

oh

my bad

[kind saffron]

I think the screw is right

Hehe

[prime pivot]

i thought its a different render

[kind saffron]

It will be interesting to see what kind of heat this generates

But the stacked triggers sticking out may provide the room for the angled exhaust

[prime pivot]

865 should be quite tamed, but not sure about 8gen2

[kind saffron]

I dunno. If it cools sufficiently in reality it's a pretty impressive design

Gotta give props

[frosty vine]

from the other render that'd put it here, but it doesn't look like a grille

[cloud aspen]

How’s the hinge gonna hold up compared to all the Chinese devices we’ve had so far

🤔

[kind saffron]

Lol

One tiny hole

Can use it to light cigarettes

[prime pivot]

it depends on brands, as for AYN, i think they suffer some issue, but should be improve in future.

[kind saffron]

First Ayn hinge. Should be better than retroids, since like, they're friends

[nocturne sedge]

its probably the same hinge but improved (hopefully) after Flip 2 fiasco

[jaunty hull]

probably on par.
issues at launch, fix a few months down the road.

[kind saffron]

I'd hope so. They have the time

Should be better than par. But famous last words

[nocturne sedge]

Ayn and Retroid are veeerryyy close friends

[prime pivot]

we have time, they dont have time.. the best is wait until it's clear

[kind saffron]

That might be protruding down a bit. Hard to determine the depth

[jaunty hull]

not a great argument when Retroid also had time between flip 1 and 2

[kind saffron]

How badass would be if it was a baffle that opens up when you put on the speed

[gentle notch]

Buy the purple colorway if you're worried about the hinge

[left kiln]

There's a vent on the other side as well

[torpid canyon]

Atheon said no

[left kiln]

People need to let this myth die

[nocturne sedge]

so close, that AYN was registered by a guy using official Moorechip email xD

[icy atlas]

Believing the biggest butthurt loser in that server lol

[gentle notch]

https://tenor.com/view/watching-you-observe-seeing-i-saw-you-gif-5740825

[kind saffron]

If you mean this. That's the intake I'm pretty sure

[torpid canyon]

If Thor had a D1100 I would’ve lost it

[left kiln]

Yeah I think thats the intake

[glad ether]

They kinda cooked with the price not gonna lie

[dark flame]

a little worried about how low that d-pad is. Also I dunno, part of me is thinking that if i can't get it into my pocket, and it will go in a bag, might as well get the big 7 inch pocket ds instead

[jaunty hull]

yeah honestly. super reasonable.

especially the lowest spec model

[nocturne sedge]

Man, I just pasted a screenshot from AYN registration application by a guy from Moorechip (Retroid)

[torpid canyon]

Insides retroid software there’s literally ayn products names

[nocturne sedge]

Maybe it means nothing and he just casually registered a new company using an email address from his old employer

[torpid canyon]

We don’t need whip out business registrations

[kind saffron]

Nutty in the best way possible

[last pond]

You people and your conspiracy theories

What does Retroid need to do to kill this myth already, rebrand Thor and release it on their store?

[kind saffron]

I mean you have to be in complete denial at this point if you think Retroid and Ayn are completely separate. It's either that or they are littered with each other's spies

[glad ether]

Wait, people are still questioning the relationship? I thought it was a known fact, price segmentation

[gentle notch]

Yeah it's pretty obvious from design language alone. They didn't even try to hide it with the odin 2 portal and rp5

[nocturne sedge]

I know, but it would be the same like when people say that Miyoo and Trimui only hire same people to do the software for them 😄 and they are not related. business papers are actually more reliable ;D

[kind saffron]

Fun fact. The flip 2 was actually reworked from the Thor 😆

[last pond]

And people still think these companies are related, crazy

[icy atlas]

my dad works for retroid and he says its the same as ayn

[jaunty hull]

really curious what the actual connections are tho. since we dont have offiicial confirmation still.

[kind saffron]

Eh. I think they're just two brands that share a design team

[last pond]

Better yet, why hide the connection at all

[kind saffron]

Probably use same contracts for hardware

They might report profits separately but there's some like real connection there

[glad ether]

wait you're actually cooking here.....

[prime pivot]

you mean this?

[nocturne sedge]

This is why I paste business docs 😄 people are still questioning their relatioship, same with Trimui and Miyoo xD

[gentle notch]

For their brand

[torpid canyon]

You know what, ayn doing a 865 Thor was, what actually dissuades me from thinking they’re in bed with each other

[kind saffron]

I mean it's not unknown in China for 2 completely separate companies to use the same Manu, design team, etc.

[glad ether]

Wait WHAT?!?

[jaunty hull]

factories etc.

[frigid shore]

It's probably just some guy at Moorechip saw Retroid and thought he wanted to do similar but more premium.

[kind saffron]

And designers don't really give a shit if they pitch their stuff to both

[torpid canyon]

Especially right after retroid do they dual screen attachment

[round quest]

Cope. The reason they have 865 in stock is because they bought a lot for the Odin pro, and then retroid used the stock and now it's back to ayn

[frigid shore]

Like, Moorechip is just a fab/manufacturer. They supply parts for Anbernic too.

[torpid canyon]

If they really close ayn wouldn’t have done something that cannabalizes sales

[icy atlas]

Trimui and Miyoo are distinct and unrelated companies though

[last pond]

Well on a serious note, yeah, I'd expect them to leave the lower end SKU to Retroid

What can Retroid do now, D1100?

[kind saffron]

Nah. They're completely different price points. The RDS and this

You'll get double dippers

[torpid canyon]

???

[nocturne sedge]

just fyi if you will scroll up, you will see that AYN was registered by a guy from Moorechip (Retroid)

[icy atlas]

they just outsource some software stuff to the same programmers

[torpid canyon]

Odin pro was 845

[kind saffron]

People who want a Thor and a second screen for their rp5

[last pond]

IIRC they also get very mad when someone says they're not

[kind saffron]

Yeah. Hard to say if he had left. Was leaving. Etc.

[frigid shore]

But it makes sense they share a lot of parts if both founders also worked at Moorechip, the connections/supply chain is already there.

[kind saffron]

I mean people here don't realize General Mills owns everything including your souls at this point

[icy atlas]

yeah well they're chinese

[torpid canyon]

Nah, they’ll phase out density completely over the next 12 next months

[icy atlas]

they probably get mad if you say 1989 tiannamen square massacre

[kind saffron]

Including competing products

[prime pivot]

not really... it saturate the market but doesn't cannibalize.

want a example? google Luxottica

[icy atlas]

that doesn't mean they did it

[nocturne sedge]

I wonder if Lexus gets mad when someone says they are owned by the same parent company as Toyota

xDDDD

[torpid canyon]

You think people will buy a flip 2 or rp5+ rds over Thor ;))?

[prime pivot]

when flip 2 or rp5+ cheaper, why not ?

[kind saffron]

No. But people will buy an RDS for their existing RP5 and a thor

[torpid canyon]

865 + 120hz 6” oled for 250 is crazy

[prime pivot]

it opens up more choice, but does not completely deny sales

[kind saffron]

Like RDS wasn't created to move handhelds. It was a small profit sliver on top of people's handhelds they already own

[torpid canyon]

That’s right

[hushed ridge]

Would 865 have better cooling/be quieter?

[gentle notch]

Rds could still be a good option for people who want dpad centric dual screens

[jaunty hull]

yeah the price difference between the low end thor and the RP5 is crazy. I was expecting it to be a bit wider a price difference.

[torpid canyon]

You’re going too much into extremes

[frigid shore]

I mean, it'd be wild to get a Flip 2 when the Thor is only $30 more with a second screen and a more premium focused company.

Or like, $20 more even.

[prime pivot]

it does not have better cooling, but due to heat it generates are lower, it might means quiter, but not by much.

[jade pulsar]

I know right !
I was thinking about ordering a Flip 2 but what’s the point when this is only a few bucks more

[torpid canyon]

Let’s see the reviews, looks pretty janky from what I have seen so far

But retroid is still updating the software

[jaunty hull]

not to mention, bigger battery.

[gentle notch]

And higher refresh rate and bigger top screen

[prime pivot]

sometimes, people just want to have a device that they can carry around, even during work, a Thor might be not suitable to carry for work, since it has more risk.

it's like more optional choice.

[jaunty hull]

not a huge bump. but 1000mah is nice.

[prime pivot]

and again, i believe RP5+ or flip2 will reduce in price soon.

[jaunty hull]

even tho the 2nd screen likely does cause more drain....wonder how the options will be to turn off screens.

[jade pulsar]

It’s not that much bigger than the Flip 2 though

[torpid canyon]

For sure, especially with the RP6 coming closer

[prime pivot]

flip 2 will probably stop in production when AYN Thor goes live

[torpid canyon]

Imagine the RP6 will have a mysterious 6” 120hz Oled screen

[jade pulsar]

I don’t think so though

RETROID wont have anything to sell besides the Mini and classic

[prime pivot]

flip 2 doesn't not solve Retroid Mini V2 leftover hardware, but AYN Thor basically uses every existing leftover hardware.

[nocturne sedge]

I think they might have some pretty sweet deals on Flip 2 and Odin 2 soon 😉

[prime pivot]

when you have thousands of RP mini screens available, and RP mini is not selling too well.

AYN Thor basically solves it.

[jaunty hull]

imho, retroid should put out a budget successor to the rp2. like a lower specced mini lol

[jaunty hull]

*LG wing screens

[jade pulsar]

Mini with the Classic SOC

[gentle notch]

Classic sp

[jaunty hull]

yeah exactly. would fill that niche.

[icy atlas]

what if retroid was actually serious and did a classic with a 3.5" 4:3 screen and put a 3ds circle pad on it

[prime pivot]

lower price bracket battlefield is too rough for RP.

[jaunty hull]

like. n64 Dreamcast era stuff still struggles on low end linux. and every android except the Classic is overkill.

technically the classic is overkill but. not price wise.

[prime pivot]

with TRIMUI Smart Pro & Brick, Mangmi X Air or upcoming MAX, i dont think it's a good idea to compete in sub 150$ range

[gentle notch]

Pretty sure the g1 gen 2 beats out all of those in price to performance, though it might get weird with its weak gpu and all

[prime pivot]

esspecially Mangmi is currently planning to generate hype and popularity by selling it in a very low margin.

[jaunty hull]

its fine. the only issue is the formfactor of the classic.

make it horizontal with a couple sticks.

but its retroid, not anbernic....lol

[vapid rain]

I think the d1100 Flip 2 could easily compete under $149.
That’s assuming Retroid lowers the prices of their products in general at all after the AYN Thor comes out though

[sacred gorge]

That's a hella good price

[prime pivot]

if AYN Thor is not doing well, what you say will happen. but if Thor is doing very well. then they'll just stick with selling Thor

[sacred gorge]

Also

What is that nonsense early bird vs retail price for the 12gb model lol

[jaunty hull]

its not nonsense?

you want nonsense. look at Ayaneo prices. post earlybird.

[sacred gorge]

No

I mean the $10 difference

[errant dome]

im in on the 16gb 1tb. future proofing winlator/gamehub in both ram and storage. then i need to quit this "hobby" lol

who am i kidding

[sacred gorge]

With the other tiers it's like $50

Why is the tier that people will want to go for high end (Wii U) the one with the least difference in price

[jade pulsar]

It’s only a $10-$20 difference

It’s never been $50

[jaunty hull]

exactly. 10-30 dollars off, means I'd still consider it after launch. vs....yeah....

[jaunty hull]

10-30 but yeah. dunno what he's smoking

[frigid shore]

It's literally all 10 except the top tier which is 20 difference.

[frosty vine]

30

[frigid shore]

Uh, 30, yeah.

[latent roost]

I feel that level of future proofing is not needed. By the time we get great developerment on PS3, Wii U, Switch and Winlator emulators that require more RAM you would get a device more powerful for cheaper

[jaunty hull]

jesus. man. you guys cant read numbers is2g

[dusky thunder]

Cool thing with Ayn. Waiting isnt so bad now. Its only $10 difference really for some models. I think problem with Aya prices people rush in wanting the early bird prices. Aya creates hype with the small batches at those prices.

[jaunty hull]

this tbh. unless theres something currently or in the very near future. the newer chipset would probably run it better and everything as well as the expectation of more ram anyways.

[sacred gorge]

You know what you're right

[gritty tusk]

I fully expect Flip 2 to start selling for $150 on #1118633698179428362

[latent roost]

12gb ram is plenty for current chipset power

[sacred gorge]

Went back to the image

[jaunty hull]

I really dont know who buys Ayaneo post earlybird. seems like a bad deal to consider.

[dusky thunder]

12GB is enough for most people

[sacred gorge]

I could've sworn I saw the 865 was $249 early and $309 retail

[latent roost]

I was even gonna say 8gb but you lost a lot of internal memory with thet

[frigid shore]

Future proofing is for if you want to stop buying...which honestly, a lot of us need to start doing, ahaha.

[jaunty hull]

tbh, 8gb is enough for most ppl. but 12 gb is a good sweetspot for that extra.

[dusky thunder]

Yeah. I have a mix of 8gb and 12gb devices

Fine for me. Covers all my needs even with a little switch and winlator stuff

[latent roost]

12gb comes with 256gb which is needed for Android games and winlator

[prime pivot]

future proof is how you convince yourself to make big purchase to avoid making small purchase every time.

but if you see new device and keep buying, that's no longer future proofing...

[dusky thunder]

Put that on a poster 😅

[jaunty hull]

I dont need excuses. I just know bigger number makes brain happy. lol

[sacred gorge]

Does azahar have some sort of interpolation filter

As an option

[jaunty hull]

its all luxury devices to me anyways. not gonna make the future proofing excuse. lol

[sharp mirage]

Glad I didn't jump the gun on the ayaneo pocket ds. Gonna for sure wait for the the thor now that the price is confirmed

[gentle notch]

This is why you should make both big purchases and small purchases

[frigid shore]

Since we're kind of software capped at the moment I don't think splurging for top end on this is too bad a call if you can afford it.

[crude tulip]

Do it

[jaunty hull]

again. it depends. but mostly not really the case. unless theres a known short term breakthrough coming.

[errant dome]

in addition to the ram, for me the space is a big factor. had an odin 2 with 256 and was at the cap with vita installs and android games

[jaunty hull]

not to say its not worth. like stated. there are applications already for it.

[frigid shore]

I realize how dumb this sounds in a vacuum, but I meant for the purposes of Winlator/native Android games, ahaha.

[sacred gorge]

Just do a permanent SD card setup

[crude tulip]

The real question is, do I get the THOR Pro or THOR Max

[errant dome]

installing games via gamehub and winlator will eat up even more

[sacred gorge]

You can format an sd card so it counts as an internal drive

[errant dome]

my sd card is already full and its 1tb

digital hoarding, the next level

[teal portal]

Isn't genshin like 100 gigs on its own

[errant dome]

id rather just pay 70 bucks more for essentially another 1tb card

[prime pivot]

no, larger number will makes us happy.

it's like, a pharmacist dude told me that there's a medicine that can enlarge my PP by 2mm.

althou i know i dont have any chance in using my PP to visit forbidden garden, but i'll still buy that medicine no question asked.

[errant dome]

80!

[jaunty hull]

ppl in this community are terrified of doing that. not being able to swap their sd card into another handheld to transfer games. what are they gonna do? spend another 50 bucks on a 2nd SD card? are you crazy?!?!? /S

I still got an unnecessary 256 floating around in my classic that isnt being used lol.

[elder wing]

Just be me and have like 20 sd cards of varying sizes lmao

[sacred gorge]

Unless I plan to stop using one device, once an SD card goes in, it's not coming out lol

[errant dome]

now that im selling my previous devices, thats also me. lots of spare cards.. but all 128 and 256 range

[sacred gorge]

I just ftp if I want to move stuff

[jaunty hull]

same basically lol.

oh yeah. I FTP my games too lol.

[frigid shore]

Same...so I'd rather just pay a bit extra for the internal storage. Extra ram is a bonus.

[jaunty hull]

I havent plugged my RPC into a pc once to put games on it lol

[frigid shore]

Especially in the case of more modern/large games and native games. Don't have anything else that will run them so it's not like I'd be swapping SD cards around.

[errant dome]

i use syncthing and have a folder for transfers to my classic and portal

[normal kayak]

God I love my RPC, only had it for a few days but I think I've already played it more than my RP5

[jaunty hull]

I should set up syncthing for my saves eventually lol

[sacred gorge]

RPC is quite lovely

[jaunty hull]

you sound like me with my 4pro and RPC.

[sacred gorge]

It's my EDC and I don't see it changing

Maybe this Thor when I move to DS games but I'm still on that GBC era

[errant dome]

syncthing is the best and it works so well with android sleep. its great playing on the classic, then picking up the portal and knowing i can continue immediately

[normal kayak]

I didn't expect to click so well with a vertical, haven't really had one since the DMG 30 years ago. It's so lovely! Plus I'm a sucker for the Megadrive layout

[errant dome]

i set syncthing to never close on both devices and my phone

[sacred gorge]

Hmm, my experience is that Syncthing is pretty bad on Android

[normal kayak]

The Thor is tempting, will probably sell the RP5 soon anyway.. but then I'm at that stage where I'm wondering if I even need a Thor

[jaunty hull]

I found that b4 it. I was still using 2 devices. one high end. and one low end. and the classic screen, and battery life. and being android. just kinda made it kinda perfect for that premium low end device.

[sacred gorge]

The functionality is fine, jus on Android, Syncthing's battery drain is massive even if you set a time limit

[errant dome]

i dont know how to respond to that other than saying it works great for me and has for years

[normal kayak]

Oh for sure, and I actually really like that it's relatively lightweight.. and even the plasticy feel works well

[frigid shore]

I feel like if I ever need syncthing then I have too many devices and need to clear out 😂

[jaunty hull]

thats a tough one bcz....prob in your situation, unless you really want it to feel more dedicated. the screen addon might be better if they fix the latency.

[errant dome]

i have not at all experience battery drain issues and i dont even set a limit

[normal kayak]

It's more for the 6" 120hz OLED for Moonlight that I would use it I think, that and perhaps more secret console stuff too and PS2. I wish Burnout ran a bit smoother on the RGC

[low lake]

lmao 😄

jsut noticed that thanx to currency conversion to usd being so low

[sacred gorge]

With Syncthing, I can't expect my device to last more than 3-4 hours

[low lake]

2x Thors Pro would techncially cost me less than i did for Og Odin 2 Pro

[jaunty hull]

If you wanna go higher end 8gen2 then yeah. and those reasons. yeah. and selling off the 5 to get some money back would make it worth to a degree. decent reasons anyways.

[low lake]

despite it being the other way around 500 vs 350 in $

[errant dome]

dude that is not the case for me at all. like my classic and portal can stay asleep for days

my phone of course too

[jaunty hull]

that low end thor is kinda killing it tho price wise.

[timber escarp]

No such thing as future proof, it's an illusion

[sacred gorge]

I dunno what's different with yours then. Everyone else I've spoken with always mentions the battery drain

[errant dome]

that was my phone use yesterday

[fading anvil]

the 865 thor is absolutely a steal but $50 for the upgrade...

[jaunty hull]

for a lot of ppl who havent bought a 5 yet (me) or even more specifically. ppl who havent but wanted the flip 2....the low end thor kinda blows em outta the water.

bigger screen, higher refresh rate, bigger battery, and thats b4 talking about the much wanted 2nd screen lol.

[fading anvil]

I'm planning to sell my mini v1 and screen kit too so it might just be a trade in for me 💀

[jaunty hull]

NGL. b4 the thor/pocketds were showed off....I was considering the mini v2 and screen addon....lol

[fading anvil]

lmao

[sacred gorge]

Huh

[fading anvil]

I never considered the screen addon because it's just icky to me

thankfully the thor has alleviated that issue

[jaunty hull]

figured the thor was gonna be more even for the 865 considering the mini/5/flip price. lol

[rare rampart]

Woops

Sorry about that

[gritty tusk]

an assembled mini v2 is listed at $175 right now on marketplace and hasn't moved yet. I'd wager demand has dropped a bit since this announcement so it'll be a trade-in + an extra $120ish for the Thor base sd865

[jaunty hull]

It was an almost necessary evil I cosidered bcz....no other options.

[low lake]

hmmm .... sometimes inflation/currency conversion turns out in one's favor

just noticed the 350$ i paid for Odin 2 (11k CZK) is almost two times the money in CZK than the 300$ Thor (6k CZK) will cost

[jaunty hull]

and no the one x sugar is not an option. lol

[low lake]

[fading anvil]

at the same time someone purchased a screen kit for $70... I figure it's just luck of the draw

[jaunty hull]

still decent option tbh.

[gritty tusk]

wait what, really? damn that's pricey screen kit upgrade. Yeah you got to find the right buyer

[fading anvil]

yep

auctions do make ebay users go a little loopy

[honest slate]

Are there any styluses with a finer tip than the cheap half-dome pens that work on capacitive screens?

[jaunty hull]

yes.

there are like....powered ones that have smaller tips that arent hell/

and theres also the ones with the flat clear disc that slide better too as a non powered cheaper option.

again, nothing can be perfect lol. kinda wish they had like a stylus similar to the motorola g stylus has.

[honest slate]

Nice, I'll have to look into them when I order the thor. Stress test the bottom touchscreen on pokemon ranger

[unborn trellis]

So I suck at knowing chips. I realize it doesn’t need that much power for DS/3DS so what would be the reason for the gen 2 and different versions of ram? I’m asking in stages, what would the 16gb do the 12 can’t, 12 do the 8 can’t and 8 do that the 865 can’t?

[jaunty hull]

secret. xbox, ps3, wii-u, winlator.

[rare rampart]

8gen2 is just flat out much better vs the 865

[jaunty hull]

mainly winlator and android for the top end model.

really depends what you are trying to do.

[honest slate]

the 8gb 8gen2 will be fine on any ds/3ds game that emulates okay, the 865 may have slowdown on select 3ds games

[sacred gorge]

Which games?

[rare rampart]

You take the 8gen2 when you want to also play modern Android games, x4 resolution of every emulator, you want some Switch and Winlator.

[unborn trellis]

Yeah I know it’s better, just don’t like paying for something I won’t use. It’s like buying a Bugatti and living in a metro with a top speed of 40.

[sacred gorge]

I haven't watched any stress test on 3ds on the rp5

[jaunty hull]

comes with experience. look through fan made compatibility lists for other consoles that use both chips.

look at the games you play and compare.

[timber escarp]

8g2 runs everything effortlessly without tweaking settings. 8gb for budget 6th generation, 12 gb for if you want to do switch and PC emulation and 16 if you want to be a big baller

[jaunty hull]

https://tenor.com/view/balling-money-player-dead-gif-5581603

you gave me a reason to go 16 1tb.

[frigid shore]

Basically, spend the extra 50 for the 8G2 if you don't want to fiddle around as much.

[honest slate]

The difference here is the power excess confers some benefit to efficiency, the battery/fuel will last longer

[unborn trellis]

Yeah I only use winlator currently for black chocobo on my 4pro. I’ve never touched the forbidden emulator lol. Haven’t messed with Xbox or ps3 on Android either since my device can’t handle them.

[errant dome]

the real question is, which color are we getting

[sacred gorge]

You don't really see 3ds in compat lists tho

[timber escarp]

The max model is worth it for the storage alone

[sacred gorge]

It's either the swoosh, Wii U or the ps2/GC combo

And windows

[honest slate]

The difference in cost between the 12gb and 16gb is about as much as a 1tb sd card so I'm going for the 16gb to not need an sd

[jaunty hull]

1tb and get an SD card.

[sacred gorge]

Those 2tb SD cards

[timber escarp]

4tb sd card, get all the games

[frank haven]

Sadly too rich for my blood. I'll be grabbing a used Odin 2 Pro

[honest slate]

Eventually, I prefer having fewer games on my systems at once but 256gb is too little

[jaunty hull]

you are alreasdy spending a chunk on it, whats another 70 bucks lol

[unborn trellis]

Heck we all already have SD so the internal is a huge bonus. I’m planning to skip the early bird and see reviews

[jaunty hull]

actually same tbh. I just like joking around.

[jaunty hull]

totally reasonable. save yourself the hassle for 10-30 bucks.

thats like....an hour or two of work or so....lol

[honest slate]

Glad I held off going for a Flip 1S earlier in the year

[unborn trellis]

Yeah it’s saved me in the past. I like to get reviews on ergonomics and pocketability mostly. The 4pro handles what I need currently and I’m still weighing having a dedicated mini pc instead of docking.

[jaunty hull]

I was literally moments away from the pocket DS. lol

[sacred gorge]

I'm probably still sticking to the pocket ds / get the cheapest model of the thor

[jaunty hull]

ok big spender lol

[honest slate]

The pocket DS is still pretty valid if the larger screen sizes have much appeal to you, also more buttons for controlling the secondary screen which could come in handy

[gritty tusk]

and extra programmable buttons too

[errant dome]

if the pocket ds had an oled bottom screen, id pay the ayaneo tax

[jaunty hull]

yeah. thats what I was considering....but I think I prefer the smaller size. and the chipsets in the thor are/were better supported driver wise.

[unborn trellis]

Bigger screen would be nice. I don’t really like winlator on smaller handhelds. Tablets are perfect imo.

[jaunty hull]

that too.

[sacred gorge]

The pocket ds just fits my aesthetic more. I absolutely love the New 2DSXL look of the pocket ds as opposed to a regular 3ds of the thor

[errant dome]

but as it stands, double oled is the most important factor for me

[honest slate]

Yeah the 8gen2 is just far better supported even if the gpu is inferior

[jaunty hull]

they both look nice to me lol. kinda funny how close in size to the 3dXL's the thor is overall.

could also use this as an excuse to sell off my spare n3DSXL collection I bought up b4 they ended production on marketplace lol

[gritty tusk]

I'd take a 5" 4:3 IPS over the LG Wing OLED on bottom. It's all preferential and its good we have these 2 (3 -- lets not forget onexsugar) options.

[jaunty hull]

no lets please forget the onexsugar....

[honest slate]

No, lets forget the onexsugar

[jaunty hull]

great minds think alike lol

[sacred gorge]

I don't mind no OLED on the bottom because it's exactly 4:3

[jaunty hull]

the thing is.

I have the RPC. and it looks great still playing 4:3

[gritty tusk]

also static content will typically be on the bottom -- whether fixed UI for games or guides, etc. Less chance of burn-in in the future

[sacred gorge]

Yep my thoughts exactly

[errant dome]

i play in the dark a lot and dont like the thought of seeing the perfect oled blacks on top and and lcd with lightbleed on bottom

[jaunty hull]

but also that bottom screen is just gonna be dedicated to like...bottom screen DS/3DS, discord, and maybe gamefaqs, spotify.

[sacred gorge]

I'm gonna put stuff like system stats on the bottom if it's not a dual screen game

[gritty tusk]

simple, just ensure you don't have black content on the bottom screen 😛

[honest slate]

For most single screen games I'll probably leave it off for battery

[elder wing]

Ngl, the bottom screen is probably gonna be my YT/media player while playing single screen stuff

[jaunty hull]

basically this on bottom screen lol

[elder wing]

Ye ye

[gentle notch]

I imagine battery life might be better on the 8 gen 2 as well since you can run at lower power settings

[elder wing]

I had the RP Mini V2 and it looks amazing

[gritty tusk]

load up a video on that thing I want to see how it looks with 16:9. It's like 3.3" I think

[errant dome]

realistically in my use case this is possible. i dont like having guides up, dont want to watch videos, or have discord on. it'll just be 3ds/ds bottom screens

[jaunty hull]

play 4:3 game on bottom screen, 16:9 video on top screen lol.

[errant dome]

but 4:3 games on the bottom screen means no beam simulator

[jaunty hull]

hopefully there should be a way to disable dual scren and turn it off.

[snow notch]

Thats why there's dozens of these devices. Never perfect size

[errant dome]

there should be just like the retroid dual screen attachment/ ayaneos implementation

[jaunty hull]

we always hunting that white whale device lol

[jaunty hull]

yeah. just bcz that extra drain on some games....prob worth not using the bottom screen.

[honest slate]

1:1 is the perfect screen ratio

[jaunty hull]

also curious how video out would be. if it has it.

[gritty tusk]

Ayn should deliver that feature... but just in case they don't, download an app like DuoMono which just renders a completely black screen. That will turn the pixels off on the other screen you don't want

[upper sail]

Well…this is 31:27, not 1:1.

[jaunty hull]

chipset supports it. but it might be weird with already having 2 screens

[honest slate]

Close enough tbh

[errant dome]

i dont think a better option exists for me because afaik theres no 120hz 4:3/31:27/1:1 oled screen

[gentle notch]

Ideally they should, not getting to use the 120 hz screen to the fullest would be a miss

[jaunty hull]

considering most screens arent developed for these devices and scaveneged from other companies.

[gritty tusk]

the 477m and RG Slide has a 4:3 120hz screen

[errant dome]

no oled

[jaunty hull]

its a miracle we got that LG wing bottom screen

such a good looking screen

[gritty tusk]

ahh. well that's an interesting thought actually. Since the app would just turn off the pixels on the other display, it doesn't mean it's not running in the background.. thus, the top display would still be locked at 60hz I think

[errant dome]

right

but they will have a fix to just turn off the bottom screen

[jaunty hull]

also I dont have issues with 4:3 on the top screen anyways. Oled with vertical layout, doesnt feel ridiculously wide.

[gritty tusk]

You would think so, but this isn't confirmed yet, right?

[left kiln]

I doubt they would even use a 120hz panel if there was no way to use it. That would be insane

[gentle notch]

Yeah, I'm fairly certain they'll let you turn off the bottom screen

[jaunty hull]

true.but.....never say the odds are 0. lol

[honest slate]

Weirder still to advertise 120Hz if it'll never reach it

[errant dome]

if ayaneo will do it i dont see why ayn wouldnt

[left kiln]

Exactly. The backlash would be crazy

[errant dome]

its china, someone will have leaked their solution for a payout lol

[jaunty hull]

still wondering how they are gonna do video out. if they do it.

I usually dont care. but I kinda wanna use one as a laptop esque replacement lol.

[gritty tusk]

Aya isn't known for their software though...

all the more reason to not pre-order and wait for reviews. spend the extra $10 not going for early bird

[left kiln]

The USB C is likely a display port as well

[honest slate]

Yeah, which will be the 'main' screen and which will be the one replaced by the external

[jaunty hull]

like I said. chipset supports it. its just being dual screen makes it a bit weird in the first place lol

[left kiln]

AYA announced all these fancy things that won't even be ready for the Pocket S either so dont order that one as well

[left kiln]

Its valid question for sure

[jaunty hull]

if I can get a semi, decent desktop environment going on it. gonna also be a laptop replacement lol

[sacred gorge]

Nah 3:2 is

[jaunty hull]

you wrote 16:10 wrong.

lol

[honest slate]

GBA...

[jaunty hull]

jokes aside 3:2 is kinda based for handhelds.

[frigid shore]

3:2 is the best tradeoff for all other ratios.
As in minimal black bars for 4:3 and 16:9.

[jaunty hull]

but I think OLED fixes most issues with black bars.

prob why Im gonna go with the black unit.

[gritty tusk]

the diff is that aya has shown it working in the video demos and it's in the IGG screenshots as well as a feature.. dedicated buttons for it. Also, early bird pricing is like $100 savings lol

[lavish crypt]

oleds do help with that a lot

those black bars just melt away tbh

[jaunty hull]

when the screen has natural black bezels anyways lol.

[frigid shore]

As long as the bezel/panel is black too anyway.

[left kiln]

What they show is controlled. Its what happens when it gets to the people using it and there the question of when. AYA have plenty of buggy releases with their software as well

[jaunty hull]

but yeah. even 3:2 content on the RPC looks pretty great. and 4:3 on 16:9 screens is way less noticable.

[lavish crypt]

gba looks awesome on the rp classic for sure

looks great on the flip 2 as well

[icy atlas]

people hitting the "nobody cancel your pocket ds orders ayn is just showing mockups!" gonna go crazy when they get their buggy ass ayaspace brick in the mail for $600

[jaunty hull]

tbh. ppl are gonna buy whatever they want.

if you dont want buggy devices. wait. for either company.

[errant dome]

yeah same. never notice them with the black bezel on the pkm yellow colorway. on the portal i never even think about the black sides when playing 4:3 content either. its so easy to focus when there is pure black on the sides

[jaunty hull]

especially wait for hinge issues.

[gentle notch]

Pocket ds is still a good option for people who want the biggest ds experience possible

[jaunty hull]

tbh. I do notice....not the bezels themselves. but how awkwardly wide some 4:3 feels on 16:9 horizontal devices.

but flip and vertical kinda dont have that issue. so this is kinda great for that reason.

wont really notice it feeling "too wide" using 4:3 on the top screen bcz the controls arent on the sides of the screen.

[jaunty hull]

definitely. Im still considering it but....eh. we'll see.

[normal kayak]

That's a great point actually

[errant dome]

wouldnt matter to me even if i did notice cause no way im not taking advantage of the 120hz for beam simulator. sort of why i dont care about the ratio of the bottom at all

[normal kayak]

I don't think it matters which device I get to complement the RGC.. it'll only end up as a Balatro machine anyway

[jaunty hull]

dont remind me....I really want the Genesis classic so bad....

I think the bottom ratio is gonna be more apparent on the white and purple units.

[wispy fjord]

Is "8Gen2" the same chip that is in my ZFold 5 or is it one of those that only looks the same to a layman?

Because nobody can name tech well nowadays?

[normal kayak]

Yes it is, full name is SM8550-AC

[errant dome]

it is the same one in samsung phones the snapdragon 8 gen 2

[wispy fjord]

Oh nice. Afaik that's a really good chip, yeah?

[errant dome]

yes

[normal kayak]

very

[supple mason]

Very good chip

[sour hedge]

Good is not enough it's beautiful stuff

[supple mason]

Ayn absolutely killed it with these prices

[normal kayak]

And lots of driver support too

[supple mason]

Might have to sell my flip 2

[wispy fjord]

God. I wish I had money.

[sour hedge]

Ayn been killing since Aug 2023

Non stop

[normal kayak]

my only concern at this moment of time is the hinge

[supple mason]

I'm still half tempted to try the pocket DS for the larger 4:3 screen though, I'm not bothered too much by oled or not

[solar epoch]

I was sold on waiting for the MCON since I got my Flip 2 and I could directly compare the SD865 to the 8gen3 in my S24+. But 8Gen2 is close, and the dual screens frees up my phone for other things.

[normal kayak]

but in saying that, I've still got an RP Flip 1 which is going strong

[errant dome]

yeah on the hinge, ayaneo definitely has the track record there

[gritty tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-funny-gif-24793899

[normal kayak]

I would've got the Pocket DS too but it's just way too large for my liking sadly

[sour hedge]

On hinge ayn should 100% make it work

[supple mason]

I also really wish they didn't use the glass panel, I'm sure I'd get bothered by the smudges

[solar epoch]

I do a lot of gaming on the Flip 2 and watching shows on my phone on my Mechanism Pillow. But now I'll be able to do both on the Thor and not get annoyed by phone notifications.

[errant dome]

that adhd

[wispy fjord]

I wear glasses and have to keep a cloth on me at all times anyway so the glass doesn't bother me, lol

[honest slate]

If software is decent the Odin 3 is going to face a steep challenge at convincing people not to get the thor

[solar epoch]

Independent app volume options would be nice though. Lots of issues with when emulating it only wants to play game sounds and not the video sound. Or it's playing both and the game sounds are too loud.

[supple mason]

The flip 2 might have to drop prices because of ayn's 865 Thor, that's a very heavy competition for 2 screens

[sacred gorge]

They should but that doesn't mean they will

[normal kayak]

Odin 3 will probably place itself to be in a good position for when ARM gets SteamOS

[sour hedge]

Oooo odin 3 could be next chip that might take pc emulation to another level

[supple mason]

Is it possible they'd use the snapdragon elite chips for the odin 3?

[sour hedge]

I mean it's same hinge like retroid pocket filp

2

[sour hedge]

Possibly yes

[honest slate]

The chip might... in 2 years when the driver support for it is good enough

[sacred gorge]

That's the part that's worrying lol

[honest slate]

It's rumored to use the 8Elite2 I think

[supple mason]

It'd insane how powerful these chips have gotten

[wispy fjord]

Are we still at the "renders only" stage btw? No pictures/footage?

[gentle notch]

Yep still renders

[gritty tusk]

yup

[gentle notch]

Wonder how long the preorder window will be

[wispy fjord]

In theory, the price differences between preorder and not are reasonable between the tiers... but ugh, saving money.

[upper sail]

Oh wait, DJ are you thinking of getting one?

[gritty tusk]

not important unless $10 makes a difference in your savings

[wispy fjord]

I really goddamn shouldn't but I am super tempted

[gentle notch]

Well I wouldn't mind saving $30 on the max

Could use that for the grip or SD card

[supple mason]

It would compensate a bit for shipping

[icy atlas]

$10 makes a difference in anyone's savings

[torpid canyon]

Plays everything from Pokémon red&blue up to lumi

Easy buy

[upper sail]

Fair enough, I’m mostly planning on sticking with the Pocket DS particularly since I already got the Early Bird discount, and since the EB discounts for the Thor are way smaller, then in the event where I do decide I want to get the Thor, I can eat the loss of those discounts way more easily than I could for missing out on the Pocket DS (since, the tier I picked has over $100 of a price difference between EB and retail).

[gritty tusk]

yeah, that might be worth it for the $30

[icy atlas]

crazy how i keep buying handhelds instead of putting a down payment on my house

[gentle notch]

This is more important

[icy atlas]

TRUE

[wispy fjord]

Yeaaah. Playing Lumi on handheld (or testing ReLumi) that is prettier than Switch is super tempting.

[torpid canyon]

3DS will be the biggest highlight of course

[wispy fjord]

God, yeah, the early bird prices for Ayaneo are whack. But I bet it's gonna be really nice!

[torpid canyon]

Side by side 3DS on 16:9 will never look as good

[wispy fjord]

Oh exactly. High res texture packs, 3DS, high internal resolution, all the whistles and bells.

[torpid canyon]

Yes

Yes

Yess

[upper sail]

Hell, given both Eden(Yuzu-Android fork) and Kenji(Ryujinx-Android fork) actually being worked on instead of being just copies of what was released, it might actually be possible for them to fix whatever incompatibility issues may occur with ReIlumi if they’re reported (assuming either of them are still being worked on by the time ReIlumi is released of course).

[left kiln]

The latest release did include some fixes and Borderlands 2 actually works now

[wispy fjord]

Yeah. It'd be neat to poke Kenji about it since Yuzu forks aren't something we can approach, but everyone working together to make it work would be awesome.

(I am a dev for LumiPlat before anyone wonders wtf. An 8Gen2 with active cooling on OLED would be a dream.)

[icy atlas]

unified development is always a good thing

azahar my beloved

[wispy fjord]

Now if only Azahar would fix the Dragon Quest VIII camera quest issue

[left kiln]

The Portal has that

[jade pulsar]

Would love to see it but think that’s a pipe dream , hell I think a first gen Elite is a pipe dream

SD 8 gen 3 is my guess

[wispy fjord]

Yy, but at that point I already have an RP5 and it'd be the only reason to upgrade from my single screen device, if that makes sense.

[left kiln]

Yeah that's fair. So youre looking at getting a dual screen then?

[upper sail]

Especially for the price it’s currently going for and the actual size of both handhelds (Pocket DS is chunkier but still way more portable overall than the Odin 2 Portal, and the Thor is absolutely going to be plenty portable).

[wispy fjord]

Yeah, if I'm gonna upgrade to a new device I'd want it to bring more than just a power bump.

Added functionality would be just the thing

[left kiln]

We've pretty much got the ceiling with these chips because the elite doesnt have any driver support. Thor interest me because its something different. As much as I love my portal

[junior relic]

The two things holding me back from cancelling my pocket ds preorder are Ayn software to manage the two screens, and battery life. And we're a long way away from a reviewer getting hands on a thor to test those things. Hopefully I get those answers before my pocket ds preorder is locked in or I'm just going to go with the pocket ds. 6000mah could be enough, but I'm really not sure. The 8000mah of the pocket ds is really nice and i don't mind the weight/size because its almost identical to my gpd win mini which i have no problem playing for long sessions

[candid inlet]

I was expecting $350 for the base. $350 for the pro is a great price. Such a good price, I feel okay buying yet another emulation device bc it will surely hold decent resell value for a while

[icy atlas]

my backpack begs me to buy the thor

[junior relic]

I've never needed youtubers to get early units for two devices more

[upper sail]

Yeah, I’m still potentially interested in the Odin 3 if it does end up using the 8 Elite, but that’s mainly due to me being interested in them potentially bringing back the functionality the Odin 1 had, in the 8 Elite letting them have Dual-Boot with Android and Arm-Windows as an option. If it uses a different chip that only supports Android, I honestly don’t have too much interest as-is.

[candid inlet]

I’ve been burned on certain Aya devices I’ve bought depreciating like milk, but then the one I really want but skipped out on (pocket DMG) is basically electronic gold apparently.

[wispy fjord]

I already put the RP5 with a 3D printed cover/grip in my pocket so if it doesn't get bigger than that, I'm all set

[left kiln]

Now that would be a use case I would be interested in. I also used windows on my Odin and obviously it was limited due to the 845 but still inpressive. The elite chips with windows should be amazing

[cosmic narwhal]

wow, cheaper than even my optimistic prediction, i guess i gotta get this

[candid inlet]

Same and I was about to start calling everyone crazy for thinking it would start at $400. Even my contrarian prediction was not low enough

[upper sail]

I’m not even lying when I say being able to potentially just replace all my smaller handhelds with it is the only reason I’m thinking of actually getting both the Thor and the Pocket DS.

[cosmic narwhal]

it's not gonna replace all my stuff just because it's gonna have inferior ergo to basically everything i have

but for 300 bucks, an 8gen2 dual screen clamshell is basically a no brainer

[upper sail]

Like, regardless I’m likely not gonna keep both so I’ll likely sell whichever one I like less, but this definitely would be a nice replacement for stuff like my RP5/Flip2 and Mini (and all the better if it ships sooner).

[candid inlet]

The classic jack of all trades, ergonomics of none

[cosmic narwhal]

i'm kinda phasing out my sub 100 bucks linux stuff and carrying my android ones around more lately though

might just keep the 35sp and 34sp and get rid of the rest

[lavish crypt]

i don't use my cheaper devices at all anymore

they've all been replaced with android devices

[cosmic narwhal]

i just like the feel of them and how console-y they feel

[torpid canyon]

we need more people to vote grey letters

[errant dome]

with the grip it will be fine (imo) so i will be selling my portal

ill stick to just the thor and rp classic

[cosmic narwhal]

i'm a grip hater

especially for stuff i wanna carry around

i only have one for my rp5

[lavish crypt]

i would keep the portal still tbh

[errant dome]

i like grip at home, remove grip when traveling

[cosmic narwhal]

i wouldn't replace a portal with this

[errant dome]

the official grips are really nice in this regard because theyre so easy to remove

[cosmic narwhal]

but i don't have a portal so i can't say

[lavish crypt]

i'm not getting rid of anything for the thor

i have a portal

def not gonna get rid of it for the thor lol

[wispy fjord]

The solution is just to have small hands where a grip is always too big anyway

[lavish crypt]

i just got my o2 portal grip, i really enjoy it

[cosmic narwhal]

for me the portal seems like top notch streaming and modern game handheld for home

[lavish crypt]

its great

i've been streaming to it mostly and playing android games

[cosmic narwhal]

while thor is basically an all rounder

i love streaming so i wouldn't mind a portal, but the rp5 is already good enough for it

[lavish crypt]

the display on the portal is just so god damn good

[errant dome]

for me its too close. yes you lose an inch on screen size but I'm ok with that loss. i dont want to keep multiple devices anymore

[cosmic narwhal]

i might just keep my og odin 2 as a "beater", lmfao

[lavish crypt]

its not about the screen size for me

[cosmic narwhal]

i didn't imagine i'd say this a year ago

[lavish crypt]

i think the portal will be more comfortable for longer game sessions than the thor

[cosmic narwhal]

for sure

[errant dome]

im assuming with the grip itll be about the same, i guess thats where we differ

[lavish crypt]

the speakers will prolly be better as well on teh portal

[errant dome]

i use the grip on the portal too

[cosmic narwhal]

although clamshell top screen is pretty awesome for neck and back ergo

[candid inlet]

The official TPU grip for this at launch is such a huge deal. Basically eliminated the reason I would have passed on it bc I hate compromised ergo and having to use 3D printed plastic material

[lavish crypt]

yea its nice

tho my 3d printed grip i have for the rp classic is nice in the hands too

[errant dome]

i really like their grip implementation too, it looks like it flairs out more than the portal grip

[candid inlet]

Maybe I should try one for my RP mini. What shop did you buy from?

[lavish crypt]

gonna have to wait till reviewers get their ahnds on it for me

[cosmic narwhal]

wish they stopped with the all glass fronts but oh well

[errant dome]

im getting the max, if i hate it ill sell it here for a minor loss, or sell the portal for a bigger one XD

[candid inlet]

It is completely necessary with that dpad placement imo.

[lavish crypt]

Jcsfy on etsy

[lavish crypt]

i thought i wouldn't like it but i actually like the way the glass front feels

[errant dome]

yeah and thats why i think itll be about the same as the portal. it looks like they thought about it

[cosmic narwhal]

i like how it feels, i hate that it's impossible to install a screen protector and even if you do it without bubbles it looks terrible

[lavish crypt]

ah i'm not a fan of screen protectors so i didn't go through that haha

[cosmic narwhal]

but well, for a clamshell it's fine, and the glass they use seems really hard to scratch

[cosmic narwhal]

i gave it one try, everything was bubbled up and i gave up

i have another but i'm not even gonna try again

[errant dome]

https://www.reddit.com/r/OdinHandheld/comments/1jv8uxv/pda_kobo_screen_protectors_for_odin_2_portal/

thought about this

[wispy fjord]

What's the usual turnaround speed for announcement/preorder/release for AYN?

[cosmic narwhal]

like a month?

[left kiln]

Preorder starts next week on their website. Shipping is probably a couple of months after that but they'll likely confirm it soon

[wispy fjord]

Oof okie.

[torpid canyon]

was two months for odin 2, right?

[cosmic narwhal]

i feel like the mini and portal took a lot less

but i might be wrong

[wispy fjord]

Was thinking maybe a Christmas gift to myself

[left kiln]

Something like that
Same for portal as well I think

[torpid canyon]

its 2-3x as fast as aya

[left kiln]

It should be shipped well before xmas

[torpid canyon]

I very clearly remember the shipping date for odin 2 getting pushed forward

[left kiln]

Its still August lol

[wispy fjord]

I know. I'm just broke, lol.

[torpid canyon]

while the portal got delayed because of the battery and cruved glass

[glad ether]

Or smart if you're budgeting 🧠

[wispy fjord]

I guess!

[cosmic narwhal]

this might be my exit point out of the hobby tbh, except for maybe future x86 releases

[frozen laurel]

All aboard!

[timber escarp]

See you when the Thor 2 comes out

[cosmic narwhal]

i don't see anything that can make me excited for a thor 2 if the thor is good

it already has top tier everything and android emulation isn't gonna turn a lot more demanding anytime soon

[timber escarp]

Hopefully we get a PS3 emulator by then

[icy atlas]

maybe ps3/sw2?

[glad ether]

It literally is the best of all worlds, great top screen for 16:9 content, and a bottom screen for ds/3ds games, more than enough power for basically anything (8gen2 version), the list goes on..

[wispy fjord]

Only thing that could potentially run things higher at about this tier would be if they figure out Switch 2, tbh

[cosmic narwhal]

i wouldn't have it as an only device, but seeing i already have an odin 2, rp5 and some random linux ones, i'd have basically everything covered many times over

this year i haven't been very excited for any release tbh

[glad ether]

I'm surprised you have both an odin 2 and a RP5, there's a lot of overlap there, any particular reason? genuinely curious

[cosmic narwhal]

odin 2 has the annoying input lag issue and the rp5 has a great looking oled

and i got a great deal for the rp5 for 185€ and didn't get scammed

and the odin 2 is massively more powerful and has a ton of battery life, and comfort wise it's not perfect but it's better than the rp5

also best form fitting case in the market, i can really throw it around without a care in the world

[glad ether]

the Portal seems to be a homerun for a lot of people, I'm genuinely surprised I haven't pulled the trigger on one yet

[lavish crypt]

i have og odin 2 and o2 portal haha the odin 2 just slaps man

[cosmic narwhal]

i've seen the portal for around 300 bucks in this aliexpress sale which is pretty crazy

[lavish crypt]

i love my flip 2 a lot too tho

clamshells are great

[cosmic narwhal]

i've been so tempted to buy a flip 2 even after buying the rp5

but i'm glad i waited

[glad ether]

Those flip 2 sticks give me so much nostalgia for the WiiU, I found those "dual top" sticks super cozy for FPS games

[lavish crypt]

i find the flip 2 to be really comfy

its with me at all times tbh haha its so easy to throw in a bag

or even slide in my pocket

[glad ether]

I'm going to be super interested how the Thor stacks up to the Flip 2, obviously one has two screens and the other doesn't, but the rest of the package is still important

[cosmic narwhal]

oh right, also my biggest worry with android handhelds was privacy stuff, logging into google and then losing it and all that, but then i started using the rp5 without logging into a single account and saw you really can do everything

so i have no more security concerns

[devout forge]

the only way they could have made it better if the snapdragon 865 model was dpad on top

that way we would have options for people who like ds more/ 2d games more and people who like 3ds more /3d games more

[torpid canyon]

while that makes sense

the increases mold cost would have made that 250 price tag impossible

[jaunty hull]

increased mold cost but also seperate mobo. which would also cost more.

[torpid canyon]

exactly

[junior relic]

One thing that's super appealing to me about the Thor is that it's kind of channeling the RP2s with a giant screen slapped on top

[glad ether]

You're a dpad top guy?!?? I've been wondering where all of these people exist that spend big money on a handheld that can easily emulate 6th gen consoles....

[jaunty hull]

not quite. lots of android games still require to be installed through the playstore. and use their services to work. but if you dont do that. you are golden

[cosmic narwhal]

i won't ever play any android games so i'm good

[cosmic narwhal]

it depends on what you play after all

and a dualshock is literally dpad top

even if the better ergo makes it matter less

[jaunty hull]

they just need to slap the classic screen and classic processor in an rp2 and just release that tbh lol

[devout forge]

I do have a preference for dpads on top but generally analog sticks on top are much more comfortable for 3d systems

[glad ether]

Definitely different man, and I love DS3 and DS4 controllers, Dualsense got too wide for my hands

There's a pretty distinct " V " formation with the dualshock controllers, hard to do with a handheld

[devout forge]

and as far as I'm aware snapdragon 865 doesn't actually do perfect wii emulation

I've had stuttering at start of races or shocks in mariokart wii when I tried playing on my snapdragon 870 y700

it's not something I would call unplayable

but it's not quite perfect

[glad ether]

the 8gen2 variant will knock Wii out of the park

[pallid blaze]

So the trigger ergonomics look the same as the Flip 2 to me. Seems like many reviewers didn't like those ergos. This has me concerned about the Thor. What do you guys think?

[cosmic narwhal]

either way this is is an all rounder device, many people will play ds games and under on it

[jaunty hull]

probably. but also seems ergonomically similar to a N3DSXL but thicker, and I dont have issues with that. so....

[glad ether]

I get what you're saying, but I can't see how it's practical LOL, there are so many fantastic budget options for dpad centric consoles, I carry an anbernic with me as a EDC for those titles

[cosmic narwhal]

well, it's kinda the ultimate all rounder

even i'm thinking of getting rid of some stuff if i buy this

[round quest]

I really don't want the triggers

[jaunty hull]

theres this thing called preferences... lol

[cosmic narwhal]

i don't think the rp5 being dpad top makes it any better or worse

if anything i'd say better because stick top is the default option for mid tier handhelds

[glad ether]

oh absolutely, "the best handheld" is going to be extremely subjective. I was responding to another person saying the only way the Thor would be better is if dpad was on top.

[jaunty hull]

that part has alwasyy been one of the most subjective differences lol

[glad ether]

To your point, dpad top is exactly why I didn't get a RP5, it's at the point where it can flawlessly play PS2 and GC upscaled, for me, that would be the bigger focus...

[jaunty hull]

considering the power in the device.

playing xbox, playstation, and nintendo consoles. the dpad location doesnt matter if you dont have the motor function of a small child. just takes a minute to get used to the switch.

[cosmic narwhal]

i really don't care about dpad location that much

i play dpad stuff on my odin 2 and i play stick stuff on my rp5

it's really not a big deal

[glad ether]

You're totally right, but it is fascinating....

without a grip case, there's absolutely a comfort difference

[rocky sinew]

hmm not sure if I want the grip for this or not, I lived just fine on the 3DS

[glad ether]

I still have a 3ds laying around, it's going to depend on the thickness of the Thor (in this case, thicker would be better)

[jaunty hull]

for at home it might be nice. on the go. prob fine without.

[rocky sinew]

I think it's thicker than a 3DS

[jaunty hull]

thats what I did with my RP4.

[rocky sinew]

yeah that's what I've been doing with my RP5 too

[glad ether]

https://tenor.com/view/chefs-kiss-french-chef-perfect-dish-excellent-food-perfection-gif-20341505

The beautiful thing is how easy the rp4 grip case is to take on and off

[jaunty hull]

like, for short sessions. no grip is mostly fine to me anyways. which is the case when out and about.

[glad ether]

mmm, those are some great dimensions all around

[jaunty hull]

im honestly impressed by em.

similar dimensions to the n3DSXL is wild to me, with a bit of extra thiccness lol

[wispy fjord]

Definitely don't understand the dpad/joystick placement stuff, but I've always just. adapted depending on the system I've played on.

[jaunty hull]

yeh playing different consoles, I dont notice after a minute.

[wispy fjord]

All I really want is a really thin charging dock to rest this on upright when I'm not using it. My desk is getting full.

[jaunty hull]

what throws me off more, is ab/xy lol

[wispy fjord]

I always imagine them as Playstation buttons anyway

[jaunty hull]

yes, but with video out. and maybe some usb ports 😛

[wispy fjord]

I don't get a handheld to play it on a big monitor

[jaunty hull]

when it has this much power.

[wispy fjord]

I need it thin and take up little space

Even the Retroid dock is too wide at the base for my liking

[jaunty hull]

I usually dont dock mine. but I'd actually consider running it as a laptop replacement if I can get some good desktop environment software on it.

[wispy fjord]

8Gen2 is that strong??

[sour hedge]

Strong is perfect

[jaunty hull]

strong enough for most applications.

[lavish crypt]

its a powerful soc

[jaunty hull]

I just need a good desktop environment that can handle apps more like how windows does. and I'd actually have no use for a laptop.

[wispy fjord]

Huh, okay.

As far as Android went, I was just gonna enjoy Honkai Star Rail better, lmao

RP5 has to run it at mid/low graphics and 30FPS

[wide thorn]

The only problem is how hard it is to decent find aps that aren't adware or spyware.

[glad ether]

865 and 8g2 have a huge gap in between them

[upper sail]

Is this counting the triggers?

[wispy fjord]

Fascinating! And even more exciting.

[jaunty hull]

there are better chips technically....but not as optimized for emulation or driver support yet.

[jaunty hull]

probably not? idk.

[wispy fjord]

My brother may have offered to go halvesises with me on the highest tier for early Christmas present. I'm very excited.

[lavish crypt]

the 8g2 can max out any android game

[wispy fjord]

It's suddenly doable.

[upper sail]

Cause as someone who had both the Flip 1 and 2 and remembers the “discussions” people had about it, trust me, they will care about it.

[jaunty hull]

yeah I can imagine.

I would assume no for the sake of, if it is, cool its thinner. rather than assuming yes and getting surprized by more junk in the trunk.

[wispy fjord]

I'm surprised they didn't make the triggers a little more inline, but ig it's the between of good feel and portable that they can get.

Bumpers? Triggers? I don't know which is which.

I use R2/L2 like Sony intended

[jaunty hull]

technically both.

triggers are the analog inputs.

bumpers are just regular digital buttons.

[wispy fjord]

[jaunty hull]

but yeah, necessary evil for analog triggers to do stacked. vs digital side by side, and conmfort wise too. usually side by side arent great feeling.

[dusk bough]

Is 8g2 better than 865

[jaunty hull]

nah worse than h700.

[upper sail]

Absolutely.

[dusk bough]

How does it handle battery

[jaunty hull]

we wont know bcz its a different dual screen setup with a 6000mah battery setup.

[dusk bough]

Ah ok

[errant dome]

however in general its excellent in its current use such as samsung galaxy s23 or odin 2/portal

[wispy fjord]

I sorta more meant not, like, um. Extruding. But I guess if analog is a focus, you can't just make them clickers.

Despite being a writer, I'm bad at words, lol

[rare rampart]

Quite a nice stock you got there

[jade pulsar]

Wait for reviews or get the grip , it’s not going to be that much more expensive if you don’t get the EB special

[wispy fjord]

Oh, definitely! I had to move my 2DS XL, lmao. But thanks.

[serene goblet]

I personally prefer dpad top but that's because I prefer playing games that are d-pad centric like rhythm games/2d platformers/etc
I enjoyed using the 405M to play Kaizo Mario on it but due to the d-pad placement, I needed a grip

was always a dualshock kinda guy too

the main thing that annoys me is why can't these manufacturers just.... give us the option to choose lol

surely it wouldn't be that difficult

[wispy fjord]

It was pointed out that means entirely new boards for that side with dpad/joystick and new mold productions.

Which adds up when inevitably one is going to sell more than the other.

[serene goblet]

fair point but eh.. still sucks

[wispy fjord]

It does.

But for something to offer more options like that, you'd need to pay more on the whole for the product to subsidize the entire production.

[candid inlet]

The 8 gen 2 was known for being a big improvement in terms of efficiency over its predecessor. It is a GOAT mobile chip. I’m glad we are keeping it especially with its mature compatibility and Linux possibility

[wispy fjord]

How much will the active cooling help it out, too?

I'm so full of questions, sorry

[lavish crypt]

the 8g2 is a known soc with devices that already have it

the odin 2 line has the 8g2

you can look up plenty of performance reviews

the active cooling helps a lot of course

[wispy fjord]

I have it in my own phone, yeah. I am just wondering if it'll have things like high-performance pushes on the Thor given the cooling, etc.

[lavish crypt]

of course

cause they already have it with the odin 2

thor is doing nothing new performance wise

[candid inlet]

The 8 gen 2 (w 12 GB of ram) is still so powerful that it can emulate anything that has good compatibility. Meaning its emulation capability is held back by emulator development, not the power of the SOC. Maybe some newer niche emulators like winlator and ps3 might be power limited in the future when they mature

[lavish crypt]

look up odin 2 gameplay reviews and you'll see what to expect

just keep in mind the only thing thor is doing new is clamshell and dual screen

it even looks like they used the portal sticks/face buttons

[wispy fjord]

That's fair! Thanks. It's exciting to kinda have a "preview" for it.

[lavish crypt]

not even kinda

it will be the same performance

its literally the same internals as the odin 2/odin 2 portal

if you go with the 8g2 model obv

[wispy fjord]

I mean. Lol. I get it. But adding a second screen is going to change things, even if not for most usecases.

Appreciate it, though.

[lavish crypt]

not that much, thats gonna be more about software than soc performance

[cosmic narwhal]

they would really have to fuck it up for the 8gen2 to have any difference in performance

i just expect it'll get a little hotter and get less battery life

[lavish crypt]

yea cause it will have a smaller fan

[wispy fjord]

I kinda can't tell if you're sharing facts or just telling me "all the answer's in the task" and to figure it out myself, fwiw, lmao. But yeah, the heaviest thing I intend for is HSR.

Maybe Switch stuff for the novelty or romhack testing.

[lavish crypt]

i own 2 odin 2's

the og odin 2 and the portal

i also own the flip 2 which is a 865 device

i'm talking from experience

[wispy fjord]

Then yeah, I appreciate it. I've got an RP5 so I'd like the upgrade+new functionality of a built in second screen.

[lavish crypt]

the 8g2 runs circles around the 865, you won't be held back from the soc

it will be the software that holds ya back

[cosmic narwhal]

i just remember the o2 mini had some heat "issues", and this might have some too, but probably less

[wispy fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/aladdin-animated-phenomenal-cosmic-powers-itty-bitty-living-space-genie-magic-lamp-gif-17360257

[cosmic narwhal]

the chip is really a known quantity by now though

[wispy fjord]

Ol' faithful.

Okay, excellent. I'll definitely look forward to it.

[left kiln]

It so well supported its crazy

[cosmic narwhal]

for me all the new "g" chips are pretty pointless with how good it is

i'll take the compatibility by far

[left kiln]

Same. The bump isnt game changing and they have less support

[wispy fjord]

Compatibility makes up a ton for brute force.

[cosmic narwhal]

yep, tell that to anbernic

[elder wing]

At most, if you don't have the fan on quiet or smart, it can get a bit too warm, but nothing like sun burning levels

[torpid reef]

are the dimensions of this known yet?

[torpid reef]

so it's boxier than even the RP Mini, that's interesting

[errant dome]

if you scroll up theres lots of size comparisons