AYN Thor

[thorn widget]

wait theres a cheaper alternative?!

[still lion]

sd865 better mean cheaper yeah

[junior relic]

I've never bought an Ayn device before, do you guys think we need to worry about custom software on the Thor for handling two screens? One of the appealing things about the pocket ds to me is that ayaneo seems to have put a lot of thought into that and has had the flip and flip 1s to get it somewhat right

normally im slapping a frontend on an android device and forgetting whatever the manufacturer put on there but with these dual screen devices it's likely a bit more complicated than that

[errant dome]

flip 1s runs windows so thats not a problem at all for 2 screens. the issue here is android. ayaneo, ayn, and retroid are pmuch all trying to figure that out, promising us something, and we either believe itll be figured out by the time the consumer versions are out, or we're cautious and wait for it to reach normal consumer hands

[sacred gorge]

Well yea

SD865 is RP5 power while 8Gen2 is Odin 2 power

[dusk bough]

Anyone else curious about colorways

[still lion]

black only for base then whatever colors for pro/max

[dusk bough]

I think itd be cool to have an aqua blue for the aesthetic

[dusk bough]

Im confused are the SD865 and 8g2 both gonna have pro & max models or is do the pro and max both have the 8g2 and more ram

[still lion]

would likely be the latter yeah

imagine a base 8g2 and a max sd865 existing at the same time

[wide thorn]

Gonna be real, I wish they'd tried harder to match the vertical screen heights. There are DS games like Dragon Guest 4 and Front Mission that take place mostly on the bottom screen.
(That's how big 4:3 will be on a 4" square screen).

[dusk bough]

wait

Im confused

how does that work

Why cant the 4:3 box just be bigger yk

[still lion]

the 4" screen is closer to a square

[wide thorn]

But DS and 3DS bottom screen is 4x3, so unless you stretch it vertically it's going to be 3.5 inches.

[still lion]

yeah i was trying to explain to them

alternatively shrink the top screen to match the bottom

[wide thorn]

I was about to say, that would put both screens right smack in-between the sizes of a DS (3") and DSi XL (4.2"). Which isn't terrible, but still.

[sacred gorge]

it's an oled, you're not gonna notice the black bars

[still lion]

something something i bought the whole screen im using all of it

[still lion]

think their concern was screen heights not matching, not the letterboxing

[sacred gorge]

hmm

[sacred gorge]

I was trying to say this lol

[wide thorn]

Yeah, it won't be an issue for 90% of the games out there, but there are a few really good ones that will be. A 4" 4:3 at the bottom would have been a lot closer (esp with the 5.5" RP5 screen) but it would likely have had to be an IPS and then people would have complained about that.

[still lion]

thor 2 gonna fix that amirite

[wide thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/dust-ashes-thanos-gone-avengers-endgame-gif-14825403

[errant dome]

oled is always going to limit the options unless they go like double 16:9

[sacred gust]

Need a 4.5" 4:3 (like the one magicx supposedly using) if pairing with a 5.5" 16:9, 4.9" if pairing with 6"

[still lion]

or

double 4"

[errant dome]

genius

[sacred gorge]

You mean.... like the RP5 with the addon

[wide thorn]

Anbernic's chance to shine if it pairs their new 4.7 screen with the Odin 2s 6" and comes in under $250. 👀

(And you know they're looking to get in on the clam wars.)

[still lion]

only a matter of time

[still lion]

with inline shoulder buttons

[wide thorn]

Gave that serious thought but keep seeing the lag issues and nah.

[errant dome]

their 4.7 screen is lcd

[still lion]

odin2 is lcd as well

[errant dome]

id just get an ayaneo at that point

reg odin 2

odin 2 portal is not, thor is not

[still lion]

they mentioned odin2 6" so

[sacred gust]

Hoping to see re-review of the fix for the RDS before preorder for this and Odin 3 goes up

[sacred gorge]

well they did say they fixed the lag issue via firmware like yesterday
wait and see the reviews tho

[gentle notch]

Fr, if anbernic makes one with two 477m screens I'm picking up one of those and this

[errant dome]

lol my bad i saw anbernic 4.7 and immediately threw up

didnt finish reading the sentence

[sacred gust]

Two 4.7" 4:3 feels kind of limited, just for high resolution melon ds?

[gentle notch]

That, and using both screens wouldn't limit you to 60 hz

[still lion]

or a gba stretched across both screens horizontally

[sacred gust]

I hope emulators get updated to support Tate mode for dual screen.

But then, will need screens of equal height or resizing to work

[errant dome]

next gen will just be a galaxy z fold 6

[flint pumice]

My guess is two 4inch 720p screen Linux based device for $100 as a ds focus clone

That’s Anbernic’s strength

[errant dome]

in some sort of enclosure

[still lion]

RG2X4XXDS

"2 by 4 xx"

[gentle notch]

Making a full fledged dual screen handheld and using an h700 would be the biggest miss ever

[sacred gorge]

I'd totally pay for a DS focus handheld

[sacred gorge]

the h700 is too weak for consistent DS

[flint pumice]

Hopefully they will use their new H700 successor that we still haven’t seen

[sacred gust]

Does it has issue with drastic for any games?

[sacred gorge]

it's the emulator itself

Drastic on Linux is an old port that has been fixed up

It never offically came out for it

[gentle notch]

Yeah I think they were rumored to use the helio p65 but that was months ago, curious to see what they'd choose

[sacred gorge]

You really need android if you want DS

[sacred gust]

Oh，so it's more specific to Linux build of drastic

[sacred gorge]

Yea

There was ever only one proof of concept build way back for Linux

[dusk bough]

sounds amazing

But idk how youd get the two screen thing to exactly work on linux

[sacred gorge]

A lot of talented people keep Linux drastic updated and cleaned up but there only so much you can do without the source code

[sacred gust]

The zero40 screen paired with a 3.4/3.5" 4:3 480p screen would be decent for a cheap dual screen for 3ds, even if you pair it with a chip capable of only 1x (integer scaled) /2x.

[vapid rain]

I'm hoping we get white added to the pool of colors for the base model for the first time.
I don't care too much if any colors besides black and white are locked behind the 8gen2, but at least give us more than 1 color for the base model lol

I would straight up prefer not having colors locked behind higher configs period as I think it feels really weird and borderline if not straight up grimy, but I don't think AYN would ever let us pick all the colors for base model.
They obviously have great products overall judging off the general consensus on them, but I think it'd get even more good will to have more color options at cheaper prices

[still lion]

ayaneo and their retro power colorway

https://tenor.com/view/meme-monkey-awkward-embarassed-eyes-gif-20131126

[wide thorn]

Which is worse, locking every color but black behind an additional paywall, or Ayaneo locking the color everyone will want behind the highest paywall.

[vapid rain]

If I had to pick the lesser of two evils, probably the latter since it's just one color that admittedly shouldn't be locked if it's the clear favorite, but at the least it's not something literally everyone would want.
Whereas there's a higher chance one of the locked color options for AYN will be something one might want

Ayaneo doesn't get any credit either way though for doing that 🗿

[still lion]

just have a single colorway regardless of tier/price amirite

[vapid rain]

Retroid Pocket Mini V2 pov

[still lion]

best i can do is X color, take it or leave it

[sacred gorge]

People want the retro color? I always looked at it like it's the unpopular color for the few that would pay for it.

[sacred gust]

I find the practice of releasing a new color sometime after the original release more irritating.

[vapid rain]

^^^^

Especially if it ends up being a color you'd have definitely bought over the others

[worn monolith]

34XX Glacier enters the chat

[still lion]

still tempted to replace my 28xx with a 34xx just cause gba was my only console ever

[sacred gorge]

34xx is quite lovely (both of them)

[still lion]

translucent thor would be something

[gentle notch]

Do people want the retro power because it's good or because it's the most expensive

Because it's pretty ugly looking

[still lion]

techdweeb sure wants it

[fresh pivot]

Both, I guess? The retro power stuff is kind of like Ayaneo's top end limited model now.

[wide thorn]

They did that with the Micro and DMG as well.

[gentle notch]

Idk just seems like more of a status thing than actually liking that colorway.

[wide thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/workout-gif-4951363

[fresh pivot]

I'd rather see more of that duck than retro power tbh

[mystic condor]

That's kind of a weird take. People get these to play retro games, mostly, and nostalgia is a big part of that.

If you didn't grow up with the DMG or have nostalgia for it, then yeah I can see how it's ugly to you.

[gentle notch]

Some parts should be left in the past imo

[mystic condor]

But the appeal is obvious.

[errant dome]

its a weird take cause how are we over analyzing peoples color preferences

[fluid cloak]

Everybody knows the best color is rp2+ yellow

[gentle notch]

Acting like Ayaneo doesn't market it as the best option lol

RETRO POWER

[errant dome]

im not talking about you

[gentle notch]

Oh well I am kind of over analyzing as well

[errant dome]

im talking about the guy being critical of people liking that color. like who cares let people like whatever color combo they like

[sacred gorge]

who?

[errant dome]

oh wait that was bennie lol

yeah! let people like what they like! you think its ugly, others dont

dmg is a classic

ill never be bored of it, or gamecube color

[gentle notch]

I find it kind of tacky when it's used for completely unrelated handheld designs though

Same with gamecube

[still lion]

rolex colorway names

[mystic condor]

It's a niche hobbyist toy, not a luxury watch. It's tacky to begin with.

[mystic condor]

dang, we both had the same train of thought

[errant dome]

all black, all white, no joy

just like the world

[gentle notch]

Not what I said

[wide thorn]

Only edgelords who hate fun hate on the Gamecube colors.

[mystic condor]

I need to feel stylish when I sit in public playing Pokemon rom hacks.

[sacred gorge]

personally these days, i find the dmg colorway a lot more life less than even a white colorway

[gentle notch]

Seriously man

[sacred gorge]

give a solid gbc (berry, kiwi, lime) colorway anyday

[errant dome]

give me all the options, i dont want to be missing any

[still lion]

meanwhile something not having a black colorway eliminates it from my options instead

[gentle notch]

Any other color

Like there's a lot of ground to cover

[errant dome]

in the thors case to bring it back on topic, i always wanted the snes or pikachu 3ds and would want that here. or at least close enough for sakura to make the mods needed to take it to the finish line lol

or the pokeball one!

[still lion]

pikachu colorway would be on theme for thor

⚡

[sacred gorge]

I'd like the same colorway as the one on the Pocket DS

The second high tier one

[wintry prairie]

we need more blood red w/ black buttons

peak

[sacred gorge]

Black and Orange

[timber escarp]

I prefer to call it ruby red, but you're right it is peak

[sacred gorge]

it would be neat if they went wild like the Retroid Pocket Classic did

Do all of them

[still lion]

@kind saffron it fully opens to 180

i expected this weekend but nice

[ebon gyro]

God Bless AYN. I hate when companies try to drag out the hype

[hearty charm]

cough retroid

[sacred gust]

i think its fine if its over 1 or 2 weeks max, AYN did the same previously iirc

better than ayaneo with the initial product intro in their online video sessions, with many subsequent teases in multiple online sessions until the actual igg

like 2-3 months or even more?

[still lion]

ayaneo releasing another device video session before the IGG of the previous device

[icy atlas]

Don't know why everyone is seriously saying a competitor needs a 5" bottom screen

Y'all have the greed they was talking about in the bible

4.5"-5" top and 3.5" bottom

[hearty charm]

Retroid does it over like a month lol

I think ayaneo hits delays and pretends it's for media hype. If they play that game this time I'll gladly cancel. My first time pre-ordering one of their devices. But they claim to be ready to ship mass amounts quick. We shall see

[hearty charm]

I'm glad it's 5" and was one of the reasons I bought it lol

[dusk bough]

Supports multitasking

[cobalt summit]

"Why don't other people spend money on thing i like?!?!?"

[icy atlas]

LOL try again

[gentle notch]

Thor Control Center

[errant dome]

ThorCC

[errant dome]

Yes, my pokemon yellow classic needs a pokemon yellow thor

[elder wing]

The TCC

Topple. Control. Command

[errant dome]

Still worried about this lip

[gentle notch]

I need a nerf case for this

[mystic condor]

I assume they want there to be a gap when closed to leave room for raised buttons and dpad, which is good for comfort. I'd prefer that over Aya's approach with everything being almost completely flush.

I guess a concern is that it won't be all that sturdy with just the lip. If you look at a 3DS XL, it has a raised frame around the entire bottom screen to maintain the gap, which is a lot sturdier.

With this lip design, if you've got the device in a bag and something presses hard enough against it, it could bend or crack the top screen.

[fresh pivot]

Should've called it THCC

[elder wing]

https://tenor.com/view/thicc-extra-thicc-dummy-thicc-too-thick-thick-gif-17320038

[dark aurora]

Ayas doing the same thing on the pocket. Even the flip 1s still has full buttons they just made sunk the face of the device with a raised edge around the shell. Pocket ds just removes most of the raised edge.

You can kinda see it here, same chin thing

[mystic condor]

okay yeah that actually looks pretty good

[vernal zinc]

It’s not a square screen

It’s actually a tiny bit closer to 4:3 than it is to 1:1 (hair wider than 8:7)

Still a mismatch but it’s 3.7, not 3.5

For 4:3 content

[full wigeon]

I would rather trigger buttons not sticking out even if it hinders comfort/button feel.

Cool thing about a fold up device is it’s a slim protected shape, without stuff sticking out, triggers kind of ruin that a bit.

[icy atlas]

I do agree with an earlier comment about a teal blue colorway

Would be perfect 3ds vibes

[kind saffron]

Damn. That's awesome. The bottom basically being a RP mini V2 is great. Will def play a bunch of stuff with retro bottom game, top guide/streaming

[kind saffron]

Yeah. I'm in the same boat. F it. I'd even go inline. The number of people who get these to play old fps or stream fps has gotta be somewhat small

Would 100% take a flat bottom over anything that sticks out

I guess racing games as well? My extent with racing games is A is go, B is break. Lol

[muted crest]

looks great

[kind saffron]

I mean if you're a ratio fiend the pocket DS is the better system. There's just so much I like about both that I wish were in one. Heh

[sacred gorge]

thinking about it

the pocket ds really reminds me of a New 2DSXL

which is the design I love the most out of the 3ds line

[rugged orchid]

This is like a dream device I'm not sure I really want in reality. Most of the time, the second screen will just eat up energy without an actual use. Would be cool if you could just turn it off completely when you don't need it (and I know that a black image will accomplish something similar).

[low lake]

Iirc there will be option to turn of the screens

[kind saffron]

Yeah. This is totally a thing. I'm pretty sure you can turn either or off

[rugged orchid]

Now I'm all in!

Funny thing is I spent all of last week researching the Odin 2 devices and now during my summer vacation they announce new ones. Exciting times!

[sand sundial]

Funny thing I consider the flip 2 better then the 35xx sp for pocket ability some times 😅

[fringe temple]

Gonna be very interesting how this goes ❤️

[jolly dune]

Buying both idc anymore

Thor for pocketable, Aya for the house

In reality I just put both on the handhelds shelf to look pretty

[still lion]

not before setting them both up ofc

[low lake]

my way is RDA + Flip 1S 8840u + Thor

but version of Thor will depend on the Odin 3 reveal (aka if i get the itch to upgrade)

[hardy flame]

since Ayaneo DS already has the grip and will give free bag for a few days. I wonder if Thor+grip+bag will be cheaper or not

[molten harbor]

Glad to see an option for a bag that can fit the grip, that was definitely something missing from the Portal+grip

[low lake]

Whoa

[nocturne sedge]

holy shit, great prices

[fringe temple]

well, fuck

[torpid canyon]

349SKU is such a good value

Easy but

Damn

[low lake]

Ok now I need to see the other colours

[fringe temple]

It's still too soon to shove AYA under the bus but that is a great pricing model

[low lake]

And odin3 details

[crude tulip]

the 865 seems pretty pointless if just 50bucks more get you an 8g2 tho

[sacred gust]

So cheaper than rp5+rds...👀
Someone was saying that's impossible

[nocturne sedge]

if the hinge is good it's gonna be the most versatile handheld so far

[sacred gust]

That is one of unknown or you can even consider it as negative since its their first

[torpid canyon]

If the hinge fails, I want a trade in deal for an Odin 3

But I’ll pre order this day one

No doubt

[low lake]

We need colours though

If I should go pro or just black

[torpid canyon]

Say it louder

@ Nicole

[sacred gust]

Pocket DS seems to be more equipped for dual screen with additional buttons to handle it etc, but this sure is tempting

[low lake]

I also need odin3 details before final decision

[nocturne sedge]

@ Nicole we also need thin cases or sleeve for it

xD

[sacred gust]

Same, waiting for odin 3 details, or maybe even that konkr pocket fit as well if it's coming anytime soon

[lavish crypt]

Damn those prices looking good

[nocturne sedge]

usual Retroid and AYN cases are too bulky

[flint pumice]

Selling flip 2 for Thor 🤣

SD865 $249 is crazy

[torpid canyon]

No igg

[flint pumice]

Does it mean the shipping will start earlier?

[sacred gust]

Can't see the numbers sold

[flint pumice]

I mean it will definitely sell a lot more than pocket DS

Just as a Odin 2 Flip is great

Even without dual screen

[sacred gust]

I think they gave up, they can't beat the number of igg campaigns ayaneo have, both total campaign and number of active campaigns

[torpid canyon]

So who’s gonna repost this on retroids discord?

[nocturne sedge]

AYN does what Ayaneot

[torpid canyon]

Don’t post in on ayas discord

[sacred gust]

Odin 2 was 299 for the same configuration 2 years ago. So whatever depreciation/cost drop for the 8g2 goes to a new OLED screen, a 2nd small OLED screen and clamshell tax?

[flint pumice]

Ok my wallet is ready

[elder wing]

Well fuck

[torpid canyon]

Well fuck indeed

[novel falcon]

Woah I was gonna get a retroid mini + dual screen but this is just straight up better

[torpid canyon]

Let’s sign a petition to kidnap Andy

[sacred gust]

They set a high bar for whatever d8300 dual screen anbernic might release, seeing the rg557 is already 240/250

[elder wing]

Ayn does, what Ayadon't

[sour hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-bateman-smile-ooooo-yeah-gif-14408539

Anbernic look at your age mates

[wheat creek]

how well does the 865 play the 3ds library?

[sour hedge]

Very well

[bronze orchid]

$349 for the same config I just paid Ayaneo $449 for…

Shit. For that price I can get the big boy 1TB Thor model

[kindred plaza]

4x 3ds

[worldly panther]

it's ok, that money will be well spent on coffee and mcdonalds

[bronze orchid]

Bro don’t hurt me like that lmao

[elder wing]

For real tho, these prices are actually insane for what they're offering

[proud rivet]

Yeah, if you don't need or care about the bigger screen then Ayn Thor sounds much better

[sacred gust]

the price gap will close abit if you consider the free (1st week only) bag for ayaneo and if you buy a grip for Thor i guess.
does pocket ds come with free screen protector?

[bronze orchid]

I’m honestly ready to cancel my Pocket DS preorder

I’m for sure getting the grip too so my hands don’t get Thor

[proud rivet]

And this is exactly what Ayn is trying to do lmao
Remember that they DON'T have anything yet. So hold your horse

[sour hedge]

Ayaneo is so unlucky bro

[proud rivet]

Ayn is basically just create few mockups in Blender to undercut Ayaneo

[kindred plaza]

ayn counter attack

[bronze orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/ponke-ponkesol-solana-sol-hold-gif-3922396481166333391

[proud rivet]

While Ayaneo actually has real prototypes

So you still have time to keep your Pocket DS preorder until the campaign ends
It's better to wait for more information

[jolly dune]

CGI Renders > Functional hardware

[bronze orchid]

100%

[jolly dune]

Just embrace the hype!
Embrace regret later

[sour hedge]

But how long ayaneo pocket ds can get into people hands

That's most important

[serene marsh]

Ayaneo should've gone with G3x G3. Now Pocket DS feels too expensive compared to Thor. $349 for 12/256G looks very tempting. I skipped Flip2 because I have RP5. I'll most probably pre-order a Thor.

[proud rivet]

Russ said that Ayaneo contacted him in his most recent video

[sour hedge]

But if you really deep it ayn is not even doing igg

[novel falcon]

Does it still suffer from shader cache stuttering?

[proud rivet]

Personally, I think the Pocket DS is priced right. It's just that somehow Ayn priced Thor so ridiculously low

It's basically the same price as the Odin 2

While having 2 OLED screens

[sour hedge]

Ayn is built different

[elder wing]

It's not like they're using all brand new parts. Most everything has been on the market for them to buy on the relative cheap for while, outside of the 6" top screen which is brand new for them

[sour hedge]

They always been built different

[crude tulip]

I'm really contemplating the MAX model... if only we would know the hinge won't break

[elder wing]

Also considering they have models, prices, and are confident they can do pre-orders next week on their website without an IGG campaign like usual, tells me they have models they've been working on for a while. Probably will ship out test models to reviewers in a few weeks to a month tops

[proud rivet]

If Ayn can actually release this new device soon with everything they promised, they don't just undercut Ayaneo. They undercut all other devices lmao
There's no reason to buy anything else but the Ayn Thor at that point. Unless you want bigger screen of course

[sacred gust]

not saying its not a good price, but odin 2 has been out for 2 years

[crude tulip]

thing is probably a joint work with Retroid and has been cooking alongside the Flip 2

[proud rivet]

They even have 2 versions with SD865 and SD8G2 just in case that Retroid/Anbernic didn't feel threatened enough lmao

[elder wing]

I honestly believe this at this point

[low lake]

oh no

[sacred gust]

but the price kind of sabotage the flip 2/retroid though, so much for "sister" companies

[elder wing]

If they're not the exact same company, they're definitely incredibly buddy buddy with each other due to their parent company

[sacred gust]

i think they won't be buddy after this

[crude tulip]

with how aggressively the 8g2 base model is priced the 865 seems a little pointless tho

[proud rivet]

The SD865 version is basically a direct upgrade for all Retroid devices at this point

[elder wing]

If the 865 version sells? Like lets be legit, why not just pay the extra 50 for the base 8 gen 2 model at that point

[kindred plaza]

should i get the sd865 if i only play 3ds and ds

[proud rivet]

I think they are targetting the people who are considering the RP5 or RFlip2 with the SD865 version

[little yacht]

The 865 is a good price. The rp mini is 199 and the attachment is 70, you can basically pick your poison whether you want an all in one or an attachment

[proud rivet]

Why would you buy the RP5 when you can just add $30 to have 2 screens at that point?

[sacred gust]

i mean if you don't own a flip 2 and is looking for a clamshell, why would you buy a flip 2 over either the 865 or 8g2 version of thor?

[crude tulip]

it would be enough, but if you aren't extremely strapped for cash, go with the 8g2 nevertheless

[serene marsh]

I commented few times when Retroid revealed the DS add-on that, Retroid could simply take Pocket Mini and the DS add-on, makes frame that combines both to make a dual screen handheld. Thor is basically that.

[little yacht]

50 is alot some people may not be able to afford it, obviously it’s not bad for what you’re getting but the pocket ds 16 gig tier was only 60 more yet everyone still went for 12

[sour hedge]

Sd865 do everything you need but 8 gen 2 is extra good food

[sacred gust]

i actually will consider one if they have done that, since same sized/color profile screens will be great, black bars on the bottom will be tolerable due to oled as well.

[latent roost]

Thor is better than that due to 6inch 120hz screen and larger battery

[little yacht]

The 50 can go towards accessories or another handheld for a person

[low lake]

you can see here ... but this is before performance boost made by current Azahar emu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgTujo0g24A

[jolly dune]

For the price though sd 8 gen 2 isnt much of a step up if you can afford it. Also unlocks colours other than black

[slim ice]

$10 early bird means I can easily wait for reviews

That's nice

[proud rivet]

That's some AI bullshit

[jolly dune]

It is its a fan mock up

[gritty tusk]

Lol

[torpid canyon]

Just a little edit, lol

[jolly dune]

It's pretty tho

[torpid canyon]

Watch this be an official colorway

[jolly dune]

I want a game boy transparent purple

Atomic puke or whatever its called

[left kiln]

Amazing prices. This should do well

[dusky thunder]

Bye money

Good prices

Even retail price isn’t half bad

[glossy nova]

well damn, my 477m still not got delivered after 13 days and this price leaks randomly show up in my email

[dusky thunder]

12GB has my name on it 🤣😅 do I cancel my aya neo ds 🤔

[gritty tusk]

The only preorder that should actually be backed is the 16gb/1tb if you’re feeling that confident about the purchase (hinge) to save $30. The other ones being only a $10 saving, might as well wait for the reviews

[gritty tusk]

Hold the Aya DS preorder until near the end of the IGG campaign. See if reviews of the Thor come out by then and you can decide.

Like all we have seen at this point is just generated renders of the device. No idea what it’s actually like in hand or when its set to come out

[proud rivet]

Yeah, it's better to hold your preorder for now. You still have a long time to reconsider

It'll be both sad and hilarious when Ayn announce that this device will ship in Q2 2026 right after you cancel your preorder lmao

[vast ibex]

$350 is pretty tempting ngl.

[proud rivet]

But again, I sure hope that tons of people actually cancel their Pocket DS preorders. So that I can receive mine earlier lmao

[crude tulip]

Russ will have to do extreme hinge testing

[river salmon]

Where are pre orders?

I don't see it on ayntec.com

[torpid canyon]

On their website, next week

[proud rivet]

Not up yet

[river salmon]

Oh okie

[low lake]

maybe we will need the help of Sean's hinge testing sandals

[low lake]

yeah these ones

[vast ibex]

Peeps in reddit already going "is the 12GB ram gonna be enough for Switch!?"

[proud rivet]

Of course not. You'll need one of those NASA supercomputers for Switch emulation

[river salmon]

Where can I see new colors?

[vast ibex]

Not shown yet

[upper sail]

Huh, ok I guess they value it cheaper than I expected?

Also wait, so the SD865 is gonna be stuck with black only?

[vast ibex]

Probably

[torpid canyon]

Yeah but honestly.. that was to be expected

[gentle notch]

Damn only $460 for max is nice

[upper sail]

Honestly I was expecting them to make the 12+256GB the default for 865 since people in general would want more internal storage than less.

[gentle notch]

If the latency slowed Retroid DS sales down, this just shot them dead

[upper sail]

Hmm, maybe if people ask enough they’d be willing to make a pro model for the 865?

[torpid canyon]

865 had to be aggressively priced, 128/8 was the only option

[torpid canyon]

They won’t even make a 512/12 for the 8 Gen 2

[vast ibex]

The RDS is basically just for people that already have a high end handheld and don't want the hassle of upgrading an entire handheld.

[sacred gust]

Not worth the effort for them to get a 12gb version done and tested compared to just using the same boards as retroid I guess

There are already people saying why not spend 50 for the 8g2

[upper sail]

That’s not a no, that’s a “sure, we just need to kidnap someone first”.

[torpid canyon]

I guess you’re right

[crude tulip]

lets hand Andy over to Nicole

[vast ibex]

Agreed

[torpid canyon]

105 base attack, not bad

[upper sail]

I mean I’m not even gonna lie I’m thinking that too. I’m genuinely confused on how they got a custom screen and managed to make it this cheap.

[vast ibex]

Man, this price is giving me deja vu from when the Odin 2 first was announced.

Very tempted like I was with the Odin 2 at the time.

And the Odin 2's temptation worked. Granted I did trade it away for the Mini

[dusky thunder]

Glad it is not through IGG. Hope the Odin 3 is the same. These companies are big enough now they shouldn’t need to keep relying on IGG

[torpid canyon]

Thinking they have finally recovered from Loki

[sacred gust]

Not yet, until we see a x64 device from them again

[vast ibex]

Man, I am so sad about the Loki debacle. It really is close to what I would personally want in a PC handheld these days.

[dusky thunder]

Im guessing they do it to cover themselves if they dont meet deadlines and hide behind the crowdfunding rules etc

[vast ibex]

Smaller and mostly for indies.

Love my Steam Deck, but that guy is a monster in comparson to all my other handhelds.

[vast ibex]

Never say never basically

[dusky thunder]

I hope so. Loki was great. Just too many SKU’s

Keep it simple

[torpid canyon]

Chip shortage

And crazy competition

[river salmon]

LOKI size, make it even weaker. Just give us long battery life on a 15W max device

[torpid canyon]

Still super difficult to compete with a deck or legion go s

[dusky thunder]

Just have one chip and diff storage/ram. keep it simple 😅

[upper sail]

And this means they likely weren’t lying about the other one.

Andy, your days are numbered.

[sacred gust]

a cheaper (but newer generation apu so better cpu architecture) x64 device might still be preferable for high end emulation compared to android considering emulators update and situation with drivers etc. Just find it wasteful to turn a 699-799+ device into a dedicated emulation device

[vast ibex]

Nah, gotta slam that AMD AI 9 in it and make it cost $1200

Totally the right choice.

[upper sail]

https://tenor.com/view/roster-cat-you-are-on-the-roster-sols-bug-jar-gif-10948565619505273487

[vast ibex]

The cheaper and smaller PC handheld market is pretty dead. It's been basically just the Loki, Loki Zero, and Win600 right?

[jade pulsar]

Anbernic is slapping together renders of a DS device with RG557 top screen and the new 4.7" bottom screen + D8300

[vast ibex]

What do you mean? The Anbernic RG558DS came out a week ago?

Based on how the Miyoo Flip was known for ages, and then Anbernic just straight up released the RG35XXSP to eat their lunch for taking too long

[upper sail]

God, they got screwed by that 865 option. Anbernic’s just gonna have to deal with this being an option now.

[left kiln]

AYN have always priced very well. It shouldn't be that much of a surprise

[low lake]

nice to have optiops ... especiall for such cheap external oled

[left kiln]

I was close. Got the base 8g2 wrong but it matches the pro

[upper sail]

“Well, if I pay $50 more I get 12G ram and 256G internal storage”.

“Cool, if I pay $50 more I get a Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 instead of an SD865”.

[vast ibex]

It's hard to say. Anbernic did still make and release the RG556 and RG557 when the Retroid Pocket 5 was just there. Existing.

[upper sail]

And neither were great on release (the RG556 stating that way until Gamma did stuff on the cfw end).

[gentle notch]

Didn't the rp5 come after the rg556

[upper sail]

We already know they’re just gonna make handhelds anyways, but this is still gonna be an issue in their end.

[nocturne sedge]

RG556 was released before RP5 (even before RP4 I think?) though

[gentle notch]

I think they could still differentiate it by making dpad top and 4:3 on both

[vast ibex]

Got my months mixed up

[fringe temple]

tempting isnt it 😄

[jade pulsar]

AYN really isn't known for their software and wonder what TCC ( Thor Control Center 🤷‍♂️ ) brings to the table

[fringe temple]

556 was a bit after 4 pro i think, way before the rp five

[vast ibex]

Going to the handheld google doc and yeah, the RP4 Pro came out a few months before the 556. And the RP5 came out about half a year after the 556. With the 557 coming out 4ish months after the RP5.

[fringe temple]

of which i dont think any are on sale anymore. The Loki were good products but terrible dev cycle, and stopped being made. And the win is just.... yeah xD

[vast ibex]

Gotta go to Brazil if you want a new Loki lmao

https://www.reddit.com/r/SBCGaming/comments/1dm68k4/ayn_loki_is_being_rereleased_in_brazil_by_the/

[sour hedge]

Almost killed ayn but ayn said im not done yet and odin 2 was the start of their legendary lineup

[fringe temple]

indeed 😄 it was a mess

I have a loki mini pro and love it, but yeah

[limpid belfry]

dang at those prices. i thought i was done getting handhelds, but im gonna have to bite on one of these.

do we know about colors yet?

[vast ibex]

Yeah, Odin 2 was legit insane.

[upper sail]

No, we just know that the 865 version is only available in Black.

[nocturne sedge]

8g2 base will have more colour options?

[lavish crypt]

i am def getting one haha the base model is super tempting tbh

[sour hedge]

865 version is so good but it's like sticky one because 8gen2 8gb price is beautiful

[torpid canyon]

Black and white only, probably a third color.

Nicole sent a picture of how white could look like

[upper sail]

Nope, that’s also Black only.

[torpid canyon]

Here

[fringe temple]

I still don't get the attachment to device colors but i'm very boring when it comes to my preferences 😄 xD

[lavish crypt]

i already have a flip 2 so the 865 model isn't that interesting

[vast ibex]

Aya Neo had just announced the Pocket Air, with a D1200, a pretty great chip that can do PS2 just fine iirc, for $320, and then Ayn goes "bet" and a month later released the Odin 2 at $300 with a fucking SD8G2 which was the best android SoC at the time if I remember right.

[lavish crypt]

but 8g2 in a clamshell? sold

[nocturne sedge]

yeah, makes sense, anyway probably it will be the one I will get

[kindred plaza]

im thinking of getting 865 with that extra 50 dollars could get a new sd card, 865 would be enough for me

[vast ibex]

Like, Aya Neo actually priced something very reasonably and well, and Ayn still took their lunch lmao.

[lavish crypt]

no, you generally have to get the pro model to get access to the colors

[vast ibex]

Yeah like, even just an Odin 2 Flip, just one screen, was something that would've been tempting for me to exchange my Odin 2 Mini for.

So the Thor is especially tempting.

[sour hedge]

It was so peak for ayaneo

[vast ibex]

Yeah it was, they actually went past their usual reputation for costing a bajillion dollars.

Like, the Pocket Air is a legit great device. Ayn just wanted to bully them lmao

[torpid canyon]

You know what’s funny, the Konkr Pocket Fit was supposed to be the Pocket Air 2.
And Ayn will kill that with the Odin 3

[jade pulsar]

Im actually crazy enough to consider the SD 865 model ? Already have a O2 and plan on keeping it and don't like buying multiple devices with the same SOC , SD 865 is still powerful enough for up to PS2

[sour hedge]

Not even

[vast ibex]

I'm still gonna have to wait. I could actually afford the Thor on release. But I wanna see how it holds up a bit, and I wanna see how well the Retroid Dual Screen works out with the Odin 2 Mini.

[kindred plaza]

sd 865 is already a 3ds machine

[sour hedge]

We basically complete everything this is like final peak now

[vast ibex]

Ayn heard me wanting an Odin 2 Flip and said "wait we can do you one better"

[sour hedge]

Next up Arm PC Handhelds

[jade pulsar]

Not even ?

[fringe temple]

No IGG is interesting too

[torpid canyon]

Grey vs colored buttons

#1407322274071314492 message

[sour hedge]

You are not crazy enough to consider it because having beautiful dual screen at reasonable price is like 👌

Voila

[sour hedge]

that's mean they are comfortable to smoke people

Ayn with no igg is unhinged company who wanted all the smoke

[torpid canyon]

No igg ✅
Good value ✅
4PX ✅
Will ship fast ✅

It’s the opposite of that one other company that starts with A

[sour hedge]

And get linuxxxxxxx

[jade pulsar]

Want to hear crazy , I actually wouldn't mind seeing AYN just sell the bottom half of the Thor without the top screen and compete with the Retroid Mini

[nocturne sedge]

"compete"

[torpid canyon]

Aya is actually also working on Linux

[sour hedge]

Lmaooooooooooo🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[jade pulsar]

I know same company

[sour hedge]

But it's aya tho ayn would make it niceer

[nocturne sedge]

Just wanted to check with you if there is some unwritten rule on this discord to pretend they are different companies xD

[sour hedge]

But again it could be good for aya

[jade pulsar]

None that I know of

[upper sail]

Well, that’s on both.

[torpid canyon]

If you guys want white, there’ll be a poll on what kind of buttons they should use

[jade pulsar]

I want White buttons but Xbox layout

I don't want to touch the Rainbow

[gentle notch]

Metallic red please 🙏

[lavish crypt]

the blacked out model is gonna look slick af

can't wait

[sour hedge]

I know that but idk ayn wouldn't kick me out from something ridiculous like aya

[torpid canyon]

It’s called manifesting

[sour hedge]

Mm

[upper sail]

Wait, kick you out for what?

[nocturne sedge]

Yeah, metallic red or blue (I think it was called Aqua Blue) would be 🔥

[torpid canyon]

[sour hedge]

Not communicating with the question of ayaneo pocket air that's why i was happy when ayn odin 2 came and whooped them

[finite gyro]

do we know what version of android its going to have?

or battery?

[sour hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/djay-whoop-that-thrick-dancing-gif-5284219

[upper sail]

…Oh god a metallic aqua blue might be exactly what gets me to order one. That was literally the color of my original 3DS.

[nocturne sedge]

Mine too, I still think its one of the nicest Nintendo's colorways

[vapid rain]

Just woke up to this.
That is less than I was expecting it to be, especially the 8gen2 model

[limpid belfry]

my launch 3DS was black. like a loser.

[sour hedge]

Don't say that you are not loser

[nocturne sedge]

Black is always a good option though

😛

[limpid belfry]

i understand that now! most of my handhelds are black. probably gonna go black with the thor too lol

[upper sail]

Nah, he isn’t, but black 3DS definitely was. Aqua Blue is the future.

[limpid belfry]

my 3DS XL is blue

[nocturne sedge]

btw its criminal that there's no Mana Blue option for 34xxsp

[sour hedge]

Unpopular opinion the pink was better

https://tenor.com/view/run-running-running-away-gif-26050957

[upper sail]

That was great too.

[elder wing]

The metallic red 3ds was fuckin clean af

[upper sail]

All the non-basic colors were great.

[sour hedge]

Red omds

So nice

[jade pulsar]

I still have my Cosmic Black launch 3ds , thing is built like a tank and still looks brand new and works after all these years

[vast ibex]

I never had the OG 3DS. I got the blue 3DS XL, and then later the black grey New 3DS XL. Still annoyed that they didn't release the blue New 3DS XL here in the US.

[limpid belfry]

i gave mine to a friend after i got the 3ds xl. i still miss it. it was an ambassador model!

[nocturne sedge]

to be honest I also don't have og 3DS anymore and I sort of miss it, smaller size was super handy

[vast ibex]

I've been tempted to get a not-XL New 3DS, but those prices man

Also with 3DS screens in general suffering from yellowing a lot nowadays...

[limpid belfry]

yeah they’re wild. not worth it if you have a 3ds already

[jade pulsar]

I did get a RED XL model later but couldn't part with my OG 3DS

[nocturne sedge]

imagine how great 3DS games will look on Thor

soooooo coool

[jagged jay]

Damn and with that ayn wins retroid

[torpid canyon]

Don’t forget dual psp 🔥 🔥

|| just kidding, forget about it ||

[nocturne sedge]

you can always run two instances of ppsspp at once xD

[latent roost]

I imagine 2 screens can benefit with Moonlight PC game streaming for online games or MMO. Have a ton of hotkeys on 2nd screen, ir message friends online while playing

[torpid canyon]

Who let Nicole cook

[vernal zinc]

Needs red buttons

To complete the us NES look

[finite gyro]

glossy black

no gloss

[torpid canyon]

Of course it’s you saying that

[finite gyro]

have they announced battery and which android its going to run?

[kind saffron]

Holy shit

Just woke me up to price

That's nutty

[left kiln]

Its up now 😊

[torpid canyon]

colorless is winning

[vapid rain]

Both colored and colorless look really good, so either one winning is fine by me

[finite gyro]

damn

purple is nice

I just can't trust clear shells

[gritty tusk]

The purple is v nice

[frozen laurel]

Fuck yeh clear pruple

[vapid rain]

110% getting the clear purple unless they reveal a clear color I like even more

[gritty tusk]

The ice blue flip 2 doesn’t have any reported hinge cracks though, unlike the others

[torpid canyon]

Clear blue is actually the only RP Flip 2 model without any hinge cracks

[sacred gust]

isn't the confirmed "rainbow" already white?

[finite gyro]

but this isn't retroid!

[torpid canyon]

Are you sure about that?

[finite gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/sadge-cat-631428-gif-24226299

if the battery is 8k or more then its a deal

[lavish crypt]

its 6k

[vapid rain]

It’s 6k

[kind saffron]

Uh. It's 6

We pretty much know everything at this point

[low lake]

ok i think i am going lowest sd8g2

[kind saffron]

Also, people been way overvaluing OLEDs these days. I kinda said that last night tho

Wonder how long Chinese manus were gonna use that insider knowledge to fleece us...

[lavish crypt]

they do be looking nice tho

[lavish crypt]

base model 8g2 is crazy good value imo

[sacred gust]

btw, for those cracked flip 2 hinge, how bad was it? was it just hairline crack kind of stuff or does something drop off/the flipping starts to have issue?

[low lake]

i do want my true black

[lavish crypt]

it varied, mine had a hairline crack

[kind saffron]

People were like, extra OLED, gotta be $100 more

[lavish crypt]

i got it swapped

i swapped to the ice blue model from the black, black had it the worst unfortunately

[kind saffron]

8gen2 is also very old in mobile chipset space

[lavish crypt]

8g2 is more than powerful enough for what the device will do lol

[kind saffron]

At least for hardware that's update bi if not triyearly

Oh. 100%

[bronze orchid]

Oooo, skittles buttons!

[low lake]

i think i would probably be just as fine sd865 ... but i already have 2 devices with it and RDA on the way 😄

• for the few bucks more it could make me play around with WiiU and HD mods

[bronze orchid]

White with the skittles buttons ❤️❤️❤️

[vapid rain]

If I can afford it, I’ll go with the 12gb/256gb model, otherwise picking the 8gb/128gb 8gen 2 model

[lavish crypt]

yea i have my flip 2 haha i don't want another 865 clamshell

8g2 clamshell goes hard

[kind saffron]

Like for real tho. It goes to show how much we've plateued as far as emulator progress vs power tho

[lavish crypt]

true

[vapid rain]

I don’t personally see much of a reason to go for the highest end model as I’m not doing any Winlator stuff on this

[low lake]

anyway i selected my sku 😄

now i need Odin 3 info to see if i want to upgrade or not there

[kind saffron]

Like no lie. I wouldn't be shocked if Qualcomm is angry at Ayn this morning. Who fucking needs g series chips when you can have 8gen2 chips for pennies apparently

[lavish crypt]

8g2 supports crazy amounts of upscaling, post processing, 4k60 docked, maxes out android games.. i mean there are reasons to get it aside from winlator and/or switch emu

[lavish crypt]

they prolly gonna use the new screen on it too

[vapid rain]

Yes, but the 12gb model should be plenty good enough for those things

[lavish crypt]

6in 120hz oled

[vapid rain]

Idk, for my needs, top model seems overkill, but that is me

[lavish crypt]

ooh you mean the highes spec for it, my bad

misunderstood

[kind saffron]

All the rk56 or whatever garbanzo devices for like $40. Save for a month and get god tier I guess 😆

[lavish crypt]

yea i wouldn't get max

[vapid rain]

No worries haha

[lavish crypt]

i got the pro model for the og odin 2 and went base for the odin 2 portal

i'll prolly get the base 8g2 model again for the thor

[kind saffron]

@low lake what you going with. May have missed it

[vapid rain]

Base 8g2 or Pro model Thor for me, whichever I end up being able to afford by the end of this year/start of next year

[kind saffron]

Honestly for a device which replace most devices on my wall, I'm comfy maxing it

[bronze orchid]

I went with the O2 Pro and I’m glad I did, 128GB internal is too cramped for games that can’t be stored on the microSD (Genshin, ZZZ, Wuthering, etc)

[kind saffron]

Retro on bottom screen is like half of them unneeded 😆

[vapid rain]

Should also be enough time for me to see how good the device is as it’s likely releasing not too long from now with how much we now

[jade pulsar]

Can the base 8gb max out Android games too ?

[bronze orchid]

I preordered the 256GB Pocket DS so I’d either go for 256GB Thor or the 1TB

[lavish crypt]

yes

the extra internal storage and color options are the main reasons to go pro imo

the extra ram is just nice

[kind saffron]

Ehhhh. Yes. But if you're turning off bot and trying to max fps on some of the higher titles I'd maybe future proof

[lavish crypt]

i don't install too many games at once nor do i drop in multiple hd texture packs at once so i found i can make do with 128g internal

[low lake]

base sd8g2

[kind saffron]

Genshin min I think is 3GB

[kind saffron]

Guess skipping pocket DS but obviously keeping 1s 8840u

[lavish crypt]

i know some people like to have a lot of games installed at once

[nocturne sedge]

but could be a good reason if Proton will come to ARM64

[jade pulsar]

They are saving that for the Odin 3

[kind saffron]

For me I go extra ram on android purely because I'm not sure if it's the cheap shit phone makers use, but it seems to either degrade or get outpaced by android app devs pretty fast. That's from a purely android perspective

[kindred plaza]

i always limit them at least 20 titles for every system

[kind saffron]

Could be degredation, could be lazy app dev

But a 2 year old phone feels slow doing the same mundane shit. More ram helps with that

[low lake]

as for reasoning

• other Thor colours didnt grab me 😄
• sd8g2 is only bit more expensive for massive boost that could get me mess around with HD mods and WiiU and imo 8gb should bve enough for that
• i dont need switch/winlator/gachas
• already have RP5/Mini+RDA for sd865
• Flip 1s 8840u i am keeping as of today (my main usecase for it is related to work , so it will pay for itself by speeding up my work)

[kind saffron]

Nice. Pre-prepared bullets. I love this guy

[low lake]

tbh i should work instead of procrastinating here

[kind saffron]

Yeah. I mean solid reasoning

[limpid belfry]

oh i am definitely going white with skittle buttons. i love black handhelds, but that white is niiiiice

preorder date?

[kind saffron]

Yeah. Think it's time to go white

I imagine we'll get preorder news next week

[fringe temple]

hell yah

[kind saffron]

They'll want people salivating over the weekend

[fringe temple]

well fuck you Ayn, i think i hav to pick one of these up now 😅

[kind saffron]

Plus it's Friday there. So I doubt they'd post on weekend

[low lake]

but someone broke the AC in the office ... so my energgy for work in this head is minuscule

[low lake]

thats already confirmed

[limpid belfry]

my ac has been out at my house for a week. solidarity

[cloud aspen]

Omg the prices!

8g2 have Linux??

[fringe temple]

yeah its linux supported

[nocturne sedge]

Not sure if its released already but I saw Rocknix was working on it

[cloud aspen]

Oooooohhh

Bye bye rpmini it’s been fun

[nocturne sedge]

I wonder if they will support using both screens,

theoretically it should be much easier on linux than android

[low lake]

https://tenor.com/view/puppy-dog-eyes-sad-saint-innocent-shrek-gif-2209964255435998657

[rain scaffold]

Can we afford to wait 2 months for hinge tests, that is the question

[cloud aspen]

Wonder how comfortable using the dpad will be

[fringe temple]

yeah the hinge has to be something worth thinking about

[nocturne sedge]

Funny thing is that I wanted to buy Flip 2 but then the hinge issues were reported and now Thor is announced 😄

[kind saffron]

Like for real. I'm glad I already sold most of what would compete with this 😆

[nocturne sedge]

sometimes it's good to wait

[tepid pawn]

Not at all going from my 3DS.

[kind saffron]

So we're guessing the transparent will be the crack free option? 😆

[rain scaffold]

To me, seems the longer wait and higher price are worth the reduced risk

[frigid shore]

I'm down for that clear purple, but with my luck this'll be the one clear hinged device that cracks

[kind saffron]

Really? Ayns dpads are some of the best imo

[nocturne sedge]

I wonder how long Stubbs knew about Thor?

[tepid pawn]

Yeah, but the position is fucked. Gonna need the grip thing.

[kind saffron]

Haha. They'll flip flop it

[fringe temple]

yeah retail price increase is honestly not much all things considered

[kind saffron]

Ah. I gotcha. That said, this is the only layout I'd actually enjoy the sticks in

But I agree bottom d is less comfortable if that's what your gonna primarily use

[nocturne sedge]

I was just watching Perfect retro handheld video on Tech Dweeb channel and what Stubbs describes as his perfect handheld really seems to forshadow Thor announcement

[jolly dune]

Well of course who do you think the Ayn CEO sold his house to afford those oleds

Stubbs just lives in the walls now

[low lake]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-yolo-hru-good-hbu-gif-23121026

[kind saffron]

Gonna be a fun day

[sacred gust]

other than the larger bottom screen, the dualscreen experience probably more robust on the Pocket DS since Thor does not seems to have any dedicated button for it

[latent roost]

Okay I've convinced myself I will get the 350 model

First I said i wanted 250 model as its cheaper and only really care for PS2 and GC

Then for 300 I thought why not for SDG2 a chipset generations newer, better efficiency, and some Switch and Winlator emulation as well as all PS2 and Wii games running at full upscale with no issues

Then I thought why not 350 for the odd few Winlator and Switch games that require more RAM. Also the extra internal storage needed for cache Android games, and textures and shaders for PS2, GC, Switch and Winlator dependencies

[lavish crypt]

whatever you need to do to hit that buy button

[vapid rain]

Price ladder got you there 🗿

[latent roost]

100 percent lol its designed to eat my wallet

[sacred gust]

not really "all" for ps2 at least (probably wii as well) , some problematic stuff will still have issues mainly due to emulator, 8g2 not enough to brute force some of these problematic stuff

[latent roost]

Yes but I read SD865 struggles with 2X for some PS2 and Wii games which SD8G2 wont

Plus the better efficiency of the newer chip will help batteru

Also I think Moonlight gamestreaming on SD8G2 has a lower decoding speed than SD865

[kind saffron]

Meh. It's just a drop-down away

[latent roost]

Finally if Linux gets more popular of SD8G2 Pirtmaster can become more of a big deal

[kind saffron]

Not to mention anyone who android games with effort will have hotkeys/keymapping

[gentle notch]

If there's one thing the rp flip 2 taught me is that we need a transparent colorway

[latent roost]

Oh I forgot the difference between 865 and 8G2 for native Android games will be huge

[kind saffron]

Haha. Mandatory for safety

[sacred gust]

i like extra mappable buttons as well on the pocket DS, don't know why AYN do away with it after having it on o2 and portal. and some of the newer ayaneo handheld have dedicated Xbox/Steam guide menu button as well, though i don't seem to see it on pocket DS

[kind saffron]

Yeah..all around it's gonna just be a better experience

Even tho the sd865 is still a great chip

[latent roost]

Thars why for only 50 more i wouldn't even consider SD865 at all

[kind saffron]

It apparently should be in more $100 devices than they're giving us

[kind saffron]

I will give Ayaneo credit. Their extra buttons are always really nice to have. Instead of having to map something to a combo

[latent roost]

Its was between the 300 and 350 models i had a dilemma which to go for

But ive settled with 350

[kind saffron]

Imo the 12/256 is the sweet spot

That's what I was gonna grab for pocket DS as well

Def not worth the $125 extra for the Ayaneo tho

[vapid rain]

12/256 👌

[kind saffron]

But yeah. 12GB gives some future proofing for something that emulators may not outpace for like 3 years

Not sure where we're even at for ps3

I know people beat it into submission on the 8gen2 already

But it doesn't sound anywhere near seamless

[tardy needle]

what is the benefit of 16gb model? What would you be able to do on that you can't do on the 12gb?

[kind saffron]

Bragging rights

[elder wing]

Better Winlator and more storage

[kind saffron]

I guess you could really max winlator

That's pretty much the only thing

[frigid shore]

If Steam ARM ever becomes a reality too.

[kind saffron]

I mean if your long gaming it I guess android games will require 16GB in like 8 years 😆

[frigid shore]

But mainly you'd be paying more for the extra internal storage.

[gentle notch]

16 gb is good if you want to go crazy on winlator

[latent roost]

I think for that model 1tb internal storage is a bigger deal than the RAM

[frigid shore]

In practical real world today settings.

[fringe temple]

12/256 will be enough i think

[frigid shore]

Like if you want to just go ham on Switch/PS2 games

Or I guess if you want to load up on a ton of large native Android games.

[latent roost]

Reading people's comment on redditnit seems emulator cache and textures, Android games, winlator dependencies, switch DLC take a lot of internal storage

[kind saffron]

Honestly a 6" screen is just not something I'd really want to go crazy with winlator on

[rare rampart]

Damn, just woke up and I think I'm still asleep... those prices.....

[kind saffron]

Feel like there's better winlator options

[fringe temple]

1tb is probably overkill but yeah it adds up lok

[kind saffron]

If that's your end goal

People wanting to PC game on their smartwatch

[latent roost]

12/256GB i think its best bang for buck personally followed by 8/128GB SDG2 model

[novel falcon]

#1106412857207312394 message vote for those sick ass colored buttons like your lives depend on it

[kind saffron]

And for those who want at most a solid 3ds experience, even the sd865 is good

[rare rampart]

Does anyone here have experience with Switch and Win emulation with a 8gen2?

[latent roost]

Black is the best because of OLED blacks as 2nd screen aspect ratio wont match for DS and 3DS games

[kind saffron]

If you don't plan to go beyond that, the base is great

[rare rampart]

I might get the 1TB to be honest in order to dabble in that stuff

If not the 256gb is fine for me

[kind saffron]

At these prices I'm going nostalgia fun anyway

Gotta remember the bottom OLED will likely have a border anyway

[latent roost]

Disagree we are talking about chipset that is multiple generations newer with better battery efficiency and no sacrifices woth resolution on PS2 and Wii

Only for 50 more

[jagged jay]

The snes looks good but with a snes sticker even better

[kind saffron]

Yeah. But base is still awesome compared to a reg 3ds. Lol

Like some people don't need to 4x everything

[latent roost]

Depends if you care for Stereo 3D

[gentle notch]

Honestly don't think you can go wrong with any of the available configurations, they're all priced well

[lavish crypt]

both are great

[latent roost]

And even with 120fps a 3DS will still have lower input lag

[kind saffron]

Like if budgets were tight I'd def grab a base just to add to the tool belt

[latent roost]

A 3DS will also always go up in value while these handhelds will drip in price

[nocturne sedge]

If steam will release ARM64 proton, this will really become the best handheld ever

[kind saffron]

But I'm talking about game playing not investing

[rare rampart]

Yeah its wild because I was comparing the Thor and Pocket DS

[latent roost]

Ive kept my 2 New 3DS and New 3DS XL and they have tripped in price since

[rare rampart]

And the prices just shot those plans

[gentle notch]

429 for 1 tb and 16gb is a crazy good deal

[latent roost]

Any news on that? Even for indie games that would be cool

[kind saffron]

Personally I'd go 8gen2 because I enjoy some Wii U implementations. But I'd go base if I didn't care about replacing more stuff and just wanted 3ds/ds

[rare rampart]

Man unlike the Flip 2, I'm tempted to just sell my RP5 outright T.T

Ayn knows how to get my money

[kind saffron]

Def curious what the rp6 might bring that'd take me away from this. Heh

[rare rampart]

I don't think anything will do for the Rp6 tbh

The Thor has all the endgame stuff I want. Dual Screen, Clamshell, 8gen2.

[calm granite]

So since this was announced, I was trying to figure out if I want to go RDS or something like this. It still seems like a screen attachment is more practical as a master of all. When not playing DS or Wii U, the second screen is dead weight. I guess if you already like clamshell devices, the dead weight doesn't really add that much, but I like ergonomics of traditional horizontal handhelds

[vast ibex]

True

[rare rampart]

Ergo-wise there is a grip isn't there?

[nocturne sedge]

I think they are working on it for "Deckard"

[calm granite]

But the triggers are not as good, surely

[nocturne sedge]

But probably they also would want to profit on mobile market asap

[rare rampart]

And they have a case for the grip as well which is another plus in my book

[vast ibex]

But then most of the handhelds that would find use with the RDS I don't think are particularly ergonomic anyway. At least imo.

I've messed with a friend's RP5 and while it does have the ergo-bumps, they're so small they don't really do anything at all.

[kind saffron]

Yeah. Was posted here

[calm granite]

I guess when I said ergo, I meant more the triggers

[rare rampart]

I actually like that tbh

The Odin 2 gave me bad grip memories

[lavish crypt]

i just got the tpu grip for my o2 portal, its great

[kind saffron]

Probably not much weight. Can be turned off. Can be used to look up guides or watch things while single screening. It's def still got its uses

[rare rampart]

Man......

[vast ibex]

I actually liked how the OG Odin 2 felt in my hands. But that's rare, I generally just prefer a flat handheld anyway.

[lavish crypt]

og odin 2 is comfy for me too

[rare rampart]

If felt good for me until I actually started playing with it T.T

[lavish crypt]

i find it to be more comfy than the portal which i had to get the grip for

[kind saffron]

180 fold is so underrated

[dusky thunder]

Purple is nice. But clear shell. So thinner. Thus more likely to break.

[rare rampart]

Same with the Flip2 actually

[lavish crypt]

flip 2 is comfy af for me

love it

[rare rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/heavybreathing-cat-gif-6111353

[lavish crypt]

or it could be the opposite like on the flip 2 baja blast still going strong

[rare rampart]

Okay I need to chill out. I thought the Odin 2 Mini was my endgame at one point

[nocturne sedge]

Looks good, almost like a full sized xbox controller

[vast ibex]

I should probably leave this channel before I'm passively peer pressured into buying the Thor lmao.

[vast ibex]

Same lol

[rare rampart]

What are some possible negatives here? The hinge?

[lavish crypt]

i'm def getting a thor

collecting clamshells at this point

[dusky thunder]

Hope so. But most clear ones are first to break.

[rare rampart]

Shush I need to manage my FOMO xD

[vast ibex]

Honestly Odin 2 Mini, if you already have one, + a Retroid Dual Screen is the more reasonable™ solution for me.

But me want new shiny toy.

[rare rampart]

I had one

Had being the keyword

[lavish crypt]

the ice blue is the only model not showing any cracks on the flip 2 lol i swapped my black model out for the ice blue

[vast ibex]

I currently have an O2M

[rare rampart]

I actually really like the O2M

[lavish crypt]

i have the RDS order going still too lol

[gentle notch]

The most cost effective purchase for me would be to just buy the rds but I need one of these

[rare rampart]

The screen is just a tad small

[vast ibex]

Flat five inch boy

[rare rampart]

Mhmm

[vast ibex]

I'm fine with it personally

[nocturne sedge]

I think it was the same story for Flip 1, they are extra careful with transparent plastics I guess

[rare rampart]

10 years ago I would be estatic

[lavish crypt]

the RDS looks fun to mess with

[vast ibex]

But I also lean towards smaller handhelds.

[rare rampart]

Now I got bad old age eyes

[dusky thunder]

Can someone pin all the official images? Its tricky to keep scrolling up 😅

[vast ibex]

I got really bad vision lol. But with glasses everything's fine.

[lavish crypt]

o2 portal screen size has spoiled me

[rare rampart]

Tbf I started streaming PC games with the Odin 2 Mini

So that is also part of the reason

[lavish crypt]

the thor is def gonna be a more fun/niche use case for me

[rare rampart]

Discovered 5" wouldn't cut it for that

[vast ibex]

I have my laptop in my lap right now, and if I took off my glasses I can't read anything even if I squint super hard. At like two feet away.

[lavish crypt]

pc streaming has taken over for me as well! one of the main reasons i got the portal

[gritty tusk]

I wonder how much second hand flip 2 is going to be fetching now with these Thor sd865 prices now available

[vast ibex]

I've tried streaming and it's just ass for me.

[lavish crypt]

like cloud streaming or streaming over local network?

[vast ibex]

Both

[lavish crypt]

cause over local network has been a fantastic experience for me

[rare rampart]

It was great for me tbh

[lavish crypt]

its my main way to play games these days

[gentle notch]

Same, it's great when it works but it has enough small hitches to ruin my experience personally

[vast ibex]

I live in a household with five adults all using internet at almost all times.

[rare rampart]

There were some negatives with cloud streaming

[gritty tusk]

are you using a dedicated router in your home or like one provided by your ISP? that could be the difference really

[whole jasper]

my RPF2 is my daily driver... I like the possibilities of a 2nd screen and it being OLED, so now with the price announcement I wonder what model to get...

[rare rampart]

But manageable for the games I was playing

[vast ibex]

We're using our own router

[lavish crypt]

i work in IT, the last thing i want to do is sit in front of a computers sometimes

streaming has been a great way to enjoy pc games without having to sit in front of the computer

[vast ibex]

Of course local streaming is still not gonna work for me anyway, since I was mostly just testing with it.

I do not have a gaming PC lmao.

My gaming PC is my Steam Deck basically.

[gritty tusk]

same here. I sit in front of my pc 9hrs a day. Last thing I want to do when I get home is sit in front of my newly built PC (Feb 2025).. lol I just stream from it now to my handhelds

[lavish crypt]

yep! its nice to relax in my backyard and enjoy some games

[rare rampart]

I work in IT

[lavish crypt]

ay IT gang

[rare rampart]

Streaming is great for those slow periods

Or when you're doing anything that has a wait time

Like cloning stuff

[lavish crypt]

I always keep that thang on me

[vast ibex]

I work retail, I wish I had more than my two fifteen minute breaks and lunch to mess with my handhelds at work.

[lavish crypt]

i generally always have a handheld with me haha

[gritty tusk]

I kinda work in IT? well I use to work in IT but now in software eng.. so kinda the same vain I guess

[vast ibex]

Of course those short times are why I always have my RG34XX on me as opposed to, say, my Odin 2 Mini

[gritty tusk]

I mean, I just tell people I work in IT because that's all they know lol computers == IT

[lavish crypt]

yea most of the time its not worth explaining what i actually do

IT covers it for most conversations haha

[wintry prairie]

also an IT worker. i'm lucky that i'm also WFH so some weeks i'm tearing my hair out and other weeks it's chill lol

[wheat creek]

it's hard justifying stuff more powerful than sd8gen2 if not playing android games like genshin/zzz

it's just winlator right?

[jolly wadi]

nice. bananas for scale

[rare rampart]

Sometimes IT covers a bit to much to be honest

[wintry prairie]

actually took today and tomorrow off bc we're about to dive into some big projects and i don't want to go insane

[lavish crypt]

8g2 already maxes otu those games

[rare rampart]

Like why doesn't the screen on our smart fridge work?

Sorry but that ain't IT

[lavish crypt]

i had someone ask me to setup their step counter cause i work in IT

[wintry prairie]

smart home tech... i keep everything as dumb as possible

except my philips hue lights. love those

[lavish crypt]

also the 8g2 power allows for heavy upscaling, post procesing effects and hd textures, a crazy amount of shaders in older systems..

[latent roost]

Okay I pulled out my New 3DS XL which is pretty much the same for factor as this. And I ll be honest it aint comfy using the D Pad, I might just keep my RG477M while I get this as well rather than sell it

[lavish crypt]

as well as 4k60 out

[gritty tusk]

I go visit my parents home every holidays and they're like, can you fix the TV bc you work in IT? I'm like.. that's AV 😂

[lavish crypt]

managing the AV is part of my job here and my fam knows that

i can't use that excuse hahaha

[wheat creek]

yea, i got g3x gen2 and elite and it all seemed pretty samey compared to the 8gen2

[lavish crypt]

i have an 8 elite device and had a 8g3 device

the 8g2 is more than enough

[latent roost]

Will set up synthing between RG477M and Thor

[lavish crypt]

i android game a lot on my odin 2 devices and it maxes out every game it throw at it

[vast ibex]

I have some android games/ports on my Odin 2 Mini

[wheat creek]

winlator seem to be the only spot it matters? I'm still thinking whether multitasking with 2nd screen will change things

[vast ibex]

I don't see myself doing multitasking much if at all.

[wheat creek]

how much processing power would subway surfers take

[lavish crypt]

it really depends on waht you do

[vast ibex]

If I'm at home, I'll just google something real quick on my laptop. If I'm out and about, I'm not likely to have internet for the handheld, and will just look it up on my phone if I have signal.

[gentle notch]

Think you need at least an 8 elite for that

[latent roost]

Multitasking while playing any emulators such up to PS2 and Dolphin wont have any impact

[wintry prairie]

my brain is mashed potatos so being able to game and maybe have youtube running on the 2nd screen is appealing

[lavish crypt]

i like playing ps2 at 4x upscale with FXAA turned on and other post processing effects

gamecube upscaled at 5-6x with lighting effects, post processing, hd textures...all nice

the power can def be used

just depends on how you want to use it

[nocturne sedge]

Same, its also handy to have a walkthrough on the second screen

[gentle notch]

Second screen will be nice to watch youtube while I play on the top

[lavish crypt]

also 3ds at 4x upscale is awesome

[vast ibex]

I just match or close to match my O2M's resolution with upscaling, and then HD texture packs. Widescreen if the hack is decently done.

[wheat creek]

yea 2nd screen might incentivize much more multitasking but idk how much more power you'd want/need for that

[vast ibex]

With some exceptions, like Yakuza 1 and 2 which don't play nice with upscaling. Lots of lighting effects ghost/double.

Those you can get a 1.75x upscale before the graphics just go a little nutty.

[nocturne sedge]

Pokemon USUM games look so good when upscaled 😍

Almost like switch games

[gritty tusk]

what is the size of 16:9 on that mini v2 screen? lol

that's a really small youtube experience unless you plan on full zoom-in / crop

[gentle notch]

Especially when you start throwing in hd texture packs it's 👌

[sour hedge]

Ooooooooo

[gentle notch]

Well it'll mainly be background noise, won't have my full attention, think it's like 3.3 inches with 16:9

[vast ibex]

Like this I guess?

[wintry prairie]

Yeah, when I say using it for youtube it's mostly like... longform podcasts where they're showing stuff off or something so it's nice to have the visual aspect there to glance at

as i said, mashed potatos

[gritty tusk]

I guess it's doable if necessary lol. At least it's possible

[gentle notch]

Yep that's kind of what I do too, it's nice for games that don't have a big emphasis on story

[wintry prairie]

Yeah! that's why my favorite games are largely platforming games lol

i'm a diehard spyro fan and just tuning out and blasting through levels is nice

[nocturne sedge]

You have to buy the purple Thor now, there's no other way

[wintry prairie]

i'm mixed on the purple that these manufacturers use but the render does look nice...

my preferred color is usually red but i'm a spyro fan who's simultaneously going through a purple/pink cyberpunk aesthetic era so they might get me

[gritty tusk]

a translucent cherry red (like RP4) would have been so sick. Yeah I agree with you as well, the clear purple used by these companies isn't too appealing.. Not like the OG atmoic purple on GBC anyway

[wintry prairie]

my red 35xxsp is my favorite looking device i own

[kind saffron]

Honestly I think it's because the og used white PCB masking

Made it look really cool

[wintry prairie]

i kinda wanted something outside the clamshell form factor but the color alone swayed me lol

[gritty tusk]

I think black mobo goes well with red.. white pcb is needed for purple to really shine through

[kind saffron]

Would be cool if they did some different PCB colors

Having had PCBs made in the past it's like pennies more

Transparent clear with red PCB. Etc. could do some cool stuff

[latent roost]

Dual screen as a streamer device is also a big deal. Imagine playing an Online game top screen. And using bottom screen for hotkeys, or chatting with friends while playing online

[kind saffron]

I just wanna look up combos while I RPG

[timber escarp]

Purple is quite boring, wish we could have got some wacky colors like transparent orange or something

[vast ibex]

Wait those color options were real? I thought it was just a fan mock up.

[kind saffron]

That and completion guides for old Zelda games. Etc

[latent roost]

Or imagine playing a grindy open world game and just having youtube play at the bottom screen. E.g playing Horizon Forbidden West top screen while doing thise side missions and watching a YouTube podcast at the same time

[vapid rain]

Wow, the poll for the white color options is surprisingly close.
Like both, but the white with grey buttons reminds me a lot of the white DS Lite, so voted for that one

[kind saffron]

Yeah. I was saying this earlier. I usually have the TV or a monitor on in the background. Would be cool to have that wherever

Also good on them for audio jack in those circumstances

[frosty vine]

do we have per app volume control?

[kind saffron]

Probably not. But in some cases theres in game volume

It's something that should be added tho

[frosty vine]

the 2 things at once thing doesn't work so well without it tbh

[vapid rain]

I really like the purple, but I feel there should just be multiple transparent colors

I’d really adore a transparent red reminscent of the Watermelon one for RP4/Flip 1

[rare rampart]

Going to be basic Black for me

If they got Gamecube buttons though

Might see how hard a swap is

[kind saffron]

It's why 16GB winlator is still tempting me. Most PC games have audio settings

[wintry prairie]

didn't android used to have that? or maybe it was a custom rom feature. idk the last time i had a daily android device is almost 10 years ago

[rare rampart]

For a Black Gamecube theme

[kind saffron]

Probably a custom ROM feature. I mean you can play audio in background. But not sure there's a way to say, mute an app

That said they're adding android desktop docking so at least I'm the newer versions I'm sure it'll exist. Not that this will get it

[jade pulsar]

2 things I don't want on the Thor

1. loud clicky face and shoulder buttons
2. a Thor logo on the lid or anywhere
   I don't want another tacky Flip 2 lid situation

[frosty vine]

my experience dailying a dual-screen phone makes me feel like this is gonna end up a lot jankier than people realize software wise, which is what it is, it's still gonna be peak for gaming, there's just a lot of little usability things that add up

[vast ibex]

I'm leaning towards White or Rainbow. I feel like Black would just look to smudgy, and worried Purple would as well.

Talking about the glass front on the bottom. Ugh glass front, why it looks so awkward on a clamshell.

[kind saffron]

So Samsung app store has an app that allows it that you can get the APK for on anything

So at least there's a solution even if not tightly integrated

[frosty vine]

what's it called?

[vapid rain]

I wanna see a video of what they look like in person first, but it’s between Clear Purple and Rainbow for me

[latent roost]

I forgot even PXPlay for PS5 streaming while watching YouTube will be great

Im currently playing Spiderman 2 and I tend to grind the side missions streaming on a handheld

[kind saffron]

Think it's called sound assistant

https://galaxystore.samsung.com/detail/com.samsung.android.soundassistant?gad_campaignid=22789837888&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwh5vFBhCyARIsAHBx2wyfxUThW5c99ylcly_7FTffnLNz-0yDW2aygGjYfDJwu1hheELthlMaAuySEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

[whole jasper]

kinda like the clear purple variant... so $349 + shipping...

[frosty vine]

good stuff, this has me wondering if any of the LG apps for dual-screen stuff could be co-opted

[kind saffron]

Yeah. I'm sure. There's probably a tool belt of stuff out there to throw together. We've seen it happen on single screen drvices

[frosty vine]

not sure if it was a function of the launcher or something separate, but you could make icons for 'bundled' apps, one tap to open an app on each screen

[kind saffron]

Honestly guys. This is really cool this is happening. Will be a ton of cool open source apps that come from this

Will probably have benefits across the handheld world

[frosty vine]

text input gets weird with 2 screens, i hope they've done something with that

keyboard would open on whichever screen had focus

so for the top screen on this that'd be a pain

[upper sail]

Hmm, maybe if the bottom lens is kept black, both for the OLED screen and also for the general vibe in matching the buttons and top screen lens?

[gritty tusk]

Might even add more life and extend functionality to Surface Duo owners. So cool

[kind saffron]

Yeah. I was thinking that too

There's some utility to dual screen phones. Kinda unfortunate massively expensive folding screen phones kinda killed them

[frosty vine]

i've had both, folding is infinitely better

[kind saffron]

I think for the most part yeah. Minus the limited lifespan

[fluid cloak]

Dude those prices

They're shooting at a lot of companies at once lol

[kind saffron]

I still think for actual multitasking 2 screens > split screen. And I say this as a pixel fold owner

[gritty tusk]

really? why do you think that? I love the two independent displays

[fluid cloak]

Now that makes me wonder, what are the margins on these handhelds if doing a 2 screen double oled can launch this cheap after all?

[kind saffron]

Fold is just nicer if you want a tablet experience when it comes to content

Like reading and watching stuff

Which is what most people use phones for

But for actual work split screen is kinda ass and wonky imo

[frosty vine]

navigation/window management with 2 separate displays is just a chore, and between the whole focus wonkiness & some apps just not wanting to cooperate i'd much rather have a foldable

[kind saffron]

Just cause android is so touch and gesture based

I mean the duo did some great stuff. And you don't really know unless you've experienced it

The preconfigured 2 app launch was awesome for scheduling

Or doing other shit like that

[frosty vine]

it's less of a problem here, but when you're trying to do actual phone stuff it sucks. yah i'm sure MS improved it over LG but i'm just not sold vs foldables

[kind saffron]

I think there's space for both. But the dual screen def has more business side applicability. And when every company phone is an iPhone...