AYN Odin 3

[versed pebble]

That is… creatively ugly.

[lusty lynx]

The tomtoc steam deck bag continues to be the best "handheld" bag. Best accessory I've ever bought.

[trim fossil]

I have the tomtoc switch bag and same. Used it for many carrying many devices

[stiff quartz]

finally now I can keep my toothbrush and Odin 3 all in the same bag and no one would know the difference

[main dock]

is it the toothbrush thats vibrating or the odin 3?

or something else...

[autumn obsidian]

is that a fanny pack? lmao

[kindred crypt]

can we request to make the bag transparent purple

if we are going to make it ugly may as well go all the way

[runic ferry]

I kinda like it. But then again I did just get the Legion sling 🤣

[brisk escarp]

Instead of tue designer bag they could release a carry case for the Odin 2 Portal that fits with the grips -.- I'd even pay for it. And order a Thor if that's what it takes lol

[lusty lynx]

Not to be a shill, but the Odin 2 portal with grip fits in the tomtoc steam deck bag.

[brisk escarp]

It "fits" in a lot of cases.. with room to dangle around.. without AYN branding..

I want a proper first party case that does the Portal justice^^

Best aftermarket fit is likely carry cases that were made for the G cloud (very similar shape, almost same with, G Cloud is just a tad taller). But they all look butt ugly imho.

[main dock]

just playing my rog ally for maybe the first time in many months..... why am i wasting time with winlator? lmao

[leaden hollow]

I just had nearly the same revelation with my Legion Go lmao

No messing with configs and much better performance

Think we're still a ways away from gamehub/winlator being a completely viable replacement

[main dock]

the rog ally lcd is very good. still wish it had an oled tho

[urban grail]

i got a rog ally yesterday 😄

[autumn swan]

i got yesterday lenovo go s with steamos and z1e. After just android/linux consoles, this is so simple and powerfull device, NBA, NFS new games and etc runs smootly and wonderfully. To be ideal device, just missing OLED and better battery.

[main dock]

I am finding more reasons to cancel the Odin 3 now. Better PS3 emulation, no more winlator, and less crashes everywhere.

But surprisingly switch emulation is better on android?

Maybe I just cancel both Thor max and Odin 3 ultra, and put that money towards a onexfly f1 pro hx370. But then it has a tiny battery. Decisions decisions.

Oh and another nice thing with windows, I can use Lossless Scaling to boost (frame gen) 60fps to 120fps

[brisk escarp]

There's a project for Android that's doing framegen too. Needs a rooted device though.

Also 8G3 and up have framegen capability, just a matter of the specific OS from yhe vendor supporting it.

[brisk escarp]

Switch is an ARM device, so it only needs to emulate the GPU part (if you ever wondered what "NCE" means in the emulators: Native Code Execution, meaning the CPU code runs natively).

x86 needs to emulate both CPU and GPU, therefore higher requirments and processing power needed.

[main dock]

Maybe the Thor + ally makes more sense than Odin 3

[brisk escarp]

The main reason to waste time with GameHub etc over an x86 is portability imo. Hard to find a 300-ish grams 5-6" x86 handheld.

That's at least the main attraction to me, even though I mostly just stream my games it's impossible to find an x86 form factor for an affordable price that I can just randomly throw in any bag and take with me on trips, the pool, whatever

[main dock]

I also have the Ayaneo air. But the battery life sucks on that even worse

And it’s nowhere close to the power of the z1e

[brisk escarp]

For some scenarios the Konkr Fit or Odin 3 just are the best compromise for portability imo

[main dock]

And using windows on that is a real tragedy

[main dock]

I think the main problem for me for those is compatibility. I would be trying to tune it more than actually playing it.

And I’m not specifically talking about the elite chip. Just android in general

[brisk escarp]

If you're going for x86 emulation, then yeah - definitely

[main dock]

Ie PS3, winlator, etc

[brisk escarp]

Yeah, most definitely. For me it's easy as all I need is basically Artemis and 1 or 2 small indie titles on GameHub I know that run well

[main dock]

I’m impressed more and more with my ally now, now that I haven’t touched it in months lol

I guess the software has just improved that much

[brisk escarp]

I personally just don't have any value for x86 power as I'd be streaming on those too..

[main dock]

And there’s more upscaling and frame gen hacks around now

[brisk escarp]

I almost bought a Zotac Zone for streaming.. but then the Portal was announced at 1/3rd of the price and 1/2 of the weight..

[main dock]

I’ll have to try streaming again. The last I tried, I just felt disconnected from the game/feel

No point getting a x86 for streaming yeah

[brisk escarp]

I'd cinsider it if the Legion S had an OLED tbh

But vanilla Moonlight doesn't really cut it anymore with how well Artemis+Apollo run on Android

[main dock]

I guess it would make Remote Desktop handy

[brisk escarp]

Too many QoL improvements there

At home it's basically impossible for me to tell apart from native

But even in the holiday resort a couple of weeks ago on public WiFi with a 10mbps cap and 25ms network latency I really didn't feel disconnected at all

Sure, you won't play shooters with that setup, but for anything single-player, even stuff like Lonely Mountains: Downhill it's very hard to tell.. some controllers or TVs have more total latency than my streaming setup..

[main dock]

Never tried that Artemis+apollo before. I’ll have to give it a shot

[brisk escarp]

And my home internet is on 5G.. it's 5G SA (which is a lot better and more stable than traditional 5G, but it's still through the air and not wired, so not as good as Fiber or DSL, but it's scary close).

[brisk escarp]

You should really give it a shot. Especially the experimental.9 build in their GitHub with the Snapdragon and Mediatek, Vsync and framepacing tweaks enabled

If you needs tips/help setting it up feel free to ping me, I'd be happy to help

[gusty river]

Artemis+Apollo has nearly obsoleted my steam deck and I prefer to stream to my portal over the steam deck.

[brisk escarp]

Artemis + Apollo has basically even obsoleted my PC desk these days. I very much prefer sitting in the garden streaming to my Portal than sitting at my desk playing.

The only times I actually sit in front of my PC is for KB+Mouse games, but that's become really rare.

[gusty river]

Also true sitting on the couch has been way better than sitting at my desk.

[wary matrix]

my PC is connected to my TV and auto-starts Steam in big picture mode, so I literally control it for the most part with a controller, haven't turned on my monitor in ages

[kindred crypt]

For most people Thor for on the go + a big ass handheld for home makes most sense

getting both Thor and the Odin 3 is overkill

unless you are into shiny new toys

I'll be getting both because I have a problem

but I'm fully aware I don't need them lol

[umbral heron]

SD865 Thor + an Odin Portal (2 or the eventual 3 that will likely happen) would make sense too

[wary matrix]

ain't we all?

[subtle zenith]

i am perfectly fine with Thor + Portal combo in out household

[kindred crypt]

8 Elite tho

[subtle zenith]

that as of right now a minus for me 😄 (due to the driver situaition)

as i dont care for winlator or android games

[lusty lynx]

I consider both the Odin 3 and the Thor to be Toys to tinker with. Dual screens Android is going to take a few months to a year to be where people really want it to be and the 8 elite may never get drivers.
Anyone wanting an Android handheld that's guaranteed to work should just get an Odin 2 portal.

[kindred crypt]

there are other less obvious benefits about this chip like battery life or the ability to finally be able to emulate dirge of cerberus at full speed

[subtle zenith]

potentially

for battery life sd8g2 already does twice more than we realisticalyl need anyway 😄

to emulate dirge of cerberus at full speed
does it thjough? looks laggy from the only vid i found
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0cbf-DcFYg

[lusty lynx]

Also at the super fan level the Odin 3 ultra is one of the cheapest 8 elite devices with 1TB of storage and a suitable amount of ram. So if you want to tinker with an 8 elite chip this is kinda a good entry point.

[kindred crypt]

ah, that's disappointing, I assumed it would be able to brute force it

maybe with active cooling and a lower resolution

[subtle zenith]

yeah from that PoV its great deal for sure

i ultimately went to portal mainly cuase of the bigger screen anyway (as upgrade from O2 )... + the fact i got it fro great price

[short gust]

bad settings

[urban grail]

oh no they were summoned

[trim fossil]

My brief experience with the Ally I found it to be the best triple A handheld. Felt like you could play recent pc games with fewer caveats than the steam deck.

I also do still feel like there is the weird grey area between high end devices like the Odin and Ally/Steam Deck where they cross over but not at the same time

[main dock]

I think the major enticement for me right now is that I’m actually playing games now, rather than finding the perfect combination of settings, tweaks, and drivers for winlator, rpcsx, etc etc lol

And I’m finding it less bulky or clunky to hold/play with than I’d remembered

Wonder how it’ll feel like once I actually put in the 80wH battery

[trim fossil]

That's why I'm happy with the 477m (at least for emulation). I can just pick up and play without feeling overwhelmed.

The main advantage I think Android has over x86 handhelds is that the mobile chips are so efficient so you can get double digit battery life in many cases

[main dock]

Yeah that was a major turnoff initially with the ally. But should be remedied by the new 80wH battery

I’ve been playing winlator, ps3, and switch on the dmg, and actually those things really zap out the battery. Seems like the ally was actually more efficient

[urban grail]

i have a 65wh battery in my ally and def makes a nice difference. I havent really tried full blown AAA stuff yet on it 😄

[trim fossil]

It's a wonder why so many handhelds launch with a smaller battery only for it to be corrected in a later revision

[short gust]

u can put 88Wh

bolt-on, stock case

[urban grail]

its an easy enough reason. More money 😄

[short gust]

less cost, funs anyway will buy it

[vague helm]

Yup + the best devices for games such as Ananta, Arknight Endfields, 7DS Origin, etc

Many upcoming games that are done well for Android

[subtle zenith]

so if i dont care for gacha mmos and winlator ... there is barely anything

[celest jay]

Pretty much

[worldly sail]

We must gather the exorcism spells to banish them whence they came.

https://tenor.com/view/devil-chihuahua-demon-exorcist-gif-20018298

[umbral heron]

More info coming soon from the Eden team on their 8 Elite compatibility progress

[autumn swan]

Because this game is so trending now, maybe someone tried Sonic Racing Crossworld on Gamehub on devices with 8gen2, g3gen3 or elite?

[errant sable]

If they make more dumb choices like the playstore push then gl xD

The new sonic racing game is fun

[umbral heron]

Best Sonic racing game since Riders and Transformed imo

It's so good.
Been having an absolute blast playing it with some of my friends

[errant sable]

Yea i love riders and same the last time me and siblings had fun with a racing game was Mario kart on gamecube

[umbral heron]

Ok yeah, I know for certain now I’d prefer an Odin 3 over the Odin 2 Portal (or 3 Portal when that inevitably comes out).

Taking the Switch out for the first time since I first got my og one near the end of 2017, and I can feel the weight in my backpack.
It’s not to an uncomfortable extent to where I don’t wanna do it, but it basically confirms what my preferences are for handhelds are.

Would really prefer taking the Switch Lite out instead if I had one, haha

[worldly lantern]

Aaaaand it's gone 😮‍💨

[runic ferry]

Nope, it still there. You using correct link?

Only appears if you have correct link to it

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/odin-3-the-ultimate-6-120hz-oled-gaming-handheld/x/10181892?secret_perk_token=dcbb2a83#/

[dark sundial]

There are links in one of the pinned messages too: #1407320894317264896 message

[urban grail]

there we go it appears now 😄

[worldly lantern]

Ah there we go. Thank you!

Although the Max spec exceeds my ever crumbling price limits...

[runic ferry]

How about pro? 1 of those is available

[worldly lantern]

Oh I missed that! Omw

[runic ferry]

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/odin-3-the-ultimate-6-120hz-oled-gaming-handheld/x/10181892?secret_perk_token=ccbee811#/

[worldly lantern]

DONE. THANK YOU!!!

[runic ferry]

Well done 👏 congrats 🎉

[main dock]

ASUS ROG ally is better at winlator than Odin 3

[autumn swan]

but it much bigger, Asus Rog is like Odin 2 Portal. Odin3 is more portable device 🙂

[main dock]

I’m just tired of tinkering. I almost forget it’s fun to just play games lol

[trim fossil]

I wonder how many levels deep you could use winlator on the ally

[main dock]

https://tenor.com/view/inception-deeper-go-deeper-we-need-to-go-deeper-leonardo-di-caprio-gif-16756828

Once I get bored of playing games, I’ll appreciate tinkering again. So maybe that’ll be when the Odin 3 actually ships

[dapper merlin]

What games would you have to tinker?? There's plenty of options to play games without tinkering lmao

Sounds like excuses haha

[leaden hollow]

Are you telling me you don't want to play games at 544p 26 fps?

[main dock]

Right now it’s RPCSX and winlator

[dapper merlin]

What games??

[main dock]

My mains on rpcsx right now are VF5, outrun2006, and ridge racer 7

Winlator is basically any game that I can run lol. Making a game run is the game

Oh that’s right. I haven’t tried gamehub or the others yet

[dapper merlin]

Yeah, not sure about running those 🤣 but I like both, gonna be tinkering with ff7 7th heaven mod when I get my 3 ultra in, so ready to play it without streaming on the go

[main dock]

That’s one I keep forgetting about

But I end up playing rebirth in vr

https://tenor.com/view/tifa-lockhart-final-fantasy-vii-gif-6056375431825084051

[dapper merlin]

Yeah im already so close on the mini with 12g but with the elite chip and more ram I'll definitely be able to brute it

[main dock]

8g2 can’t run 7th heaven mod?

Maybe I’m thinking of something else

[dapper merlin]

I havent seen it done without rooting it

[main dock]

No that’s the one. I thought 8g2 would’ve been able to handle it. Oh well

[dapper merlin]

I have moguri running fine but something about the 7th heaven and the the mod requirements make it harder when winlator alone takes up a decent amount of the ram available out of the 12g

[main dock]

Was 7th heaven available in 4:3 aspect?

[dapper merlin]

I think so i just have widescreen mods, Ive just been streaming it as of late

[main dock]

Sounds perfect to put on my dmg

I’ll do it right before ff7-3 comes out

[dapper merlin]

Honestly with all the sprite upgrades, the chibi for out of battle and the in battle sprites look like ff7 remake ones its so damn nice

Ive been loving it haha

[severe jungle]

I don't think anyone actually knows how this guy got 7th Heaven running in Winlator

[worldly sail]

Did this guy ever finally respond to the people asking how the fuck he got it to even boot?

[main dock]

Ai

[dapper merlin]

Rooted and only used like 2 mods is what I deciphered haha

[severe jungle]

The thing is... does Winlator care about root?

[worldly sail]

That’s not how this should even work, if it was then it would make sense for 7th Heaven to still boot and work fine, with it only crashing once you try to boot the game with anything more than it can actually handle without rooting for performance.

Except it doesn’t even boot in the first place, like it literally doesn’t show up in the task manager at all (well, it shows up for like a literal second and then disappears).

[severe jungle]

Yeah, someone on the Winlator or 7th Heaven side needs to investigate what it's having trouble with tbh

[dapper merlin]

I mean it helps tune the system to not have so much bloat for android so helps with memory but also he had some drivers for it too help it boot, but yeah I get the game running and it just crashes it shows up on task manager just does what moguri does when you dont cancel the services exe, so more memory and a more powerful chip should let it boot

[dapper merlin]

I get 7th heaven pulled up just fine its just doesnt boot the game

[worldly sail]

How?!

[worldly sail]

Like, I’m not even joking when I say I flat out was scratching my head and thinking it was just a weird error on Winlator’s end because I literally couldn’t figure out how to do even that.

[severe jungle]

Wait, that was you?!

[dapper merlin]

Alot of tinkering i spent a whole day working on it with different winlator forks haha

[worldly sail]

Same thing with the FFNx build of FF7 (using the dumped Android port, that I already verified was working on my computer), where that also wouldn’t boot properly, even though FF7 installed via Steam would boot just fine and even worked full speed.

[dapper merlin]

Yeah lmao I've concluded with how 7th heaven was built and how it loads the mods its just too much for 12g and the 8gen 2

[severe jungle]

You should go back to reddit and respond to people, lol. That post is one of the first that comes up for people googling 7th Heaven on Winlator.

[main dock]

What about 16gb and g3xg2

[dapper merlin]

I got a new phone and didn't install reddit but ill go back to see what people have been saying

[main dock]

Is it more reliant on cpu or gpu

[severe jungle]

Genuinely please and thank you.

[dapper merlin]

Ram i mean just booting winlator takes up alot

[worldly sail]

No kidding, it would’ve saved me a lot of time if I knew what the issue was with Winlator so that I could verify the reason it wasn’t booting myself, even if it also included a comment saying “but don’t get your hopes up, the device can’t really handle booting 7th Heaven mods”.

[severe jungle]

Have you tried within a Gamehub container? That can lessen the ram used due to their optimizations.

[dapper merlin]

Which is why I opted for the 24g cause I'm determined to make it work

[severe jungle]

Putting the 7th Heaven installation file in your Android downloads means you can access it from the Gamehub container.

Hell yeah.

[dapper merlin]

I pre downloaded all my mods and moved them to the assigned folders, so i wouldn't have to worry about it trying to download them

[severe jungle]

I am curious if others in the future might be able to optimize it, or make a "lite" version for instances like this with enough interested...

[worldly sail]

Oh wait, that works? Nice, did you use FFNx and the dumped Android build? Or did you use Steam to install FF7?

[dapper merlin]

This i haven't tried because gamehub wasn't too big a while ago, might be worth it too, and I used steam version cause I had it working on my pc like the moguri mod but witb how 7th heaven works i just had goldberg the drm file

[main dock]

I just realized my dmg has the same amount of ram as my ROG ally lol

[dapper merlin]

I had ff7 pre installed like how you move moguri from pc to android

[main dock]

Does winlator use up more ram than actual windows?

[severe jungle]

That's super fair. But pre-installing may have also been why you were getting that Steam.dll error.

[dapper merlin]

Yeah I also tried, installing it from the pc version of ff7 cause it still works with 7th heaven but no luck

[worldly sail]

Yeah, fair enough. It’s annoying that FF7 and 8 still have the drm in spite of FF9 not having it for some reason, since it just makes them that much more of a hassle.

[dapper merlin]

Yeah cause ff9 doesnt require steam to boot, which is why I'm gonna hit up the moguri people to try to see how they did it so I can maybe edit the code

I tried it all haha, downl9ading a steam fork of winlator to try to do it how my pc does, Goldberg the drm file, trying the pc version of ff7

[worldly sail]

Oh, this is an unrelated question, but would you happen to have tried and succeeded to get the GoG version of Bioshock 1 and/or 2 Classic running on Odin 2 using Winlator?

Mainly wanted to ask someone else messing with Winlator on the off chance you happened to figure out what to do for that game in particular.

[dapper merlin]

I havent really messed with gog, but its doable I see YouTube videos of it running, on the 7.13 glib c fork, running performance mode and with a turnip drivers and 2.31 box

[severe jungle]

Frankly, I'm mostly curious if the 16gb ram Thor will be able to approach running 7th Heaven lol

[dapper merlin]

Im about to tinker some more, but i hope so, the only reason I went with the ultra odin 3 was to give me the best chance haha but hopefully I make some headway today and get it working on my mini pro

Im redoing my folders and drm and about to transfer it all over to my sd card

[fast sable]

https://tenor.com/view/good-luck-gif-6101980294530817885

[dapper merlin]

I found out memoria has a steam patcher built in, but I'm crossing my fingers haha

Got about 30 min cause all of ff7 and mods is about 40gigs haha

[severe jungle]

Ping me if you get some success? I'm heading to work and otherwise will likely miss stuff. 7th Heaven VII is just too good to miss out on having it portable locally.

[dapper merlin]

For sure if I accomplish it I might have to make a YouTube video so I domt get too blown up 🤣

[severe jungle]

Hell yeah. And post it to reddit as you disappear into the aether again.

[fast sable]

Id love to know if this works and the steps so count me in 😅

[dapper merlin]

Uploads a short video of it playing to tease everyone and never be seen again 🤣 jk

[severe jungle]

This is the way.

[urban grail]

We call that pulling the Taki 😄

[main dock]

Hey don’t jinx my SUPER5 mega kit

By now I’m not interested in my lite anymore but whatever lol

[vague helm]

Making it 8 Elite compatible would be a huge, huge win, probably the biggest thing they need to make for a long time (if it's also 8 gen 5 compatible)

[vague helm]

• Odin 3 is lighter and slimer than Odin 2

[vague helm]

Why tinker ? GameHub exists

[main dock]

I’ll have to try it out

[main dock]

https://tenor.com/view/eating-slimer-ghostbusters-the-real-ghostbusters-yummy-gif-20483940

[short gust]

they just impement 842.6 drivers WOW

[dapper merlin]

Here we go again haha let's see if its possible

[severe jungle]

Fwiw you may not want to try with Cosmos Gaia specifically because it forces real time lighting, which even my first gen steam deck was not a fan of lmfao

[main dock]

Is there one with full path ray tracing?

[umbral heron]

Yeah, it’s not much bigger than a RP5, which is a big selling point for me

[dapper merlin]

Making some head way!

[severe jungle]

‼️

[dapper merlin]

This might be it furthest I've gotten where it actually recognizes game path and exe

[severe jungle]

What method are you using so far?

[dapper merlin]

3.x version of 7th heaven and winlator frost

[severe jungle]

3.x?

[dapper merlin]

Yeah a older version of 7th heaven

[severe jungle]

May I ask why? Is it the steam check maybe?

[dapper merlin]

Yeah it doesnt use the steam drm

But now I have a failed iso check cause I can't mount isos to winlator ugh

[severe jungle]

And using a Winlator image with Steam running in the background is probably too much ram inside so many instances of Things?

I'm sorry if I'm asking obvious things, lol

[dapper merlin]

I havent been able to get steam to work very well on winlator and have also been trying that

Steams been a roadblock for me even though I see people using it

[severe jungle]

That's so frustrating.

I kinda got it working with Cmod fwiw

Steam, I mean

[dapper merlin]

The trick to get 7th heaven up and running is to tap it a whole bunch and check task manager to see if it booted

Its finnicky

[severe jungle]

Yeah, I'm so confused what it's trying to do that it kinda destroys itself when booting

[dapper merlin]

So.if you got steam running try it haha

[severe jungle]

I've only got 8gb ram on my RP5. Idk if it's worth trying to boot it or not.

[dapper merlin]

You on performance? It doesnt pop up very often i click it like 15 times with my finger

For the box preset

It might if moguri works for you, worth a try

[severe jungle]

I haven't yet tried Moguri specifically yet.

but god I should

[dapper merlin]

Moguri is easy to get running

Just copying a working game folder with the mods downloaded then copy that folder from the pc to the sd card

[severe jungle]

So it wouldn't be a Steam copy?

Or, wait, right. IX doesn't have DRM.

[dapper merlin]

Yeah no drm!

[severe jungle]

I'll look into it. Having things locally will be awesome.

[dapper merlin]

Yeah it definitely is love moguri!

[severe jungle]

So basically pre-mod it all with Memoria or whatnot beforehand and just wholesale chuck the folder at some sort of Winlator build?

[dapper merlin]

Yep! And just run the memorial exe

[severe jungle]

That's so exciting. Hell yes.

I wonder if I can get it to work within a Gamehub container so it will still give me cheevos...

I'm greedy, hi

[severe jungle]

Got Moguri Mod running on cmod! Once I remembered to install wine monos...

[sturdy lion]

@stiff quartz What did you think about the PS3 performance on the Astra? I'm torn between getting a PC handheld or something with the 8 elite

[short gust]

Astra worst tablet

Dont

If want Elite tablet, get Legion Gen4 or Oneplus Tab3

[sturdy lion]

What's wrong with it?

[short gust]

Hardware limitation

Without stability impact

But i would recomend wait tablet with new elite ...

Price on chipset doesnt rise

But 30% performance boost

Or just get handheld on elite

[boreal hamlet]

What's the benefit of the y700 gen4 over the astra?

Both don't have active cooling

[short gust]

performance+stability

build quality

[boreal hamlet]

Damn I was considering getting the astra lol

[short gust]

it has one real advantage is high end tcl (real-rgb) display

thats all

[stiff quartz]

The Astra has solid stability and performance? I have both 😅

[stiff quartz]

I have a video on it! https://youtu.be/z-muP2lR_B0

[boreal hamlet]

Which one do you prefer between the two? Was thinking about getting one of them since the drivers seem to be getting better

Y700 vs astra

[stiff quartz]

If you're wanting PS3 emulation though, x86 handheld is still the way to go.

RPCS3 is far more mature

[sturdy lion]

I've watched it like 4-5 times already haha but I'm still insanely torn

[stiff quartz]

Are there specific games you want to play?

[sturdy lion]

Genuinely we've seen such a huge improvement in 8 elite performance this month

[stiff quartz]

Personally, I like the Astra more. I can live without the micro SD slot, but the display is so dang good on the Astra.

[sturdy lion]

Littlebigplanet and Uncharted mainly :p

[boreal hamlet]

thanks, not too much info on the gaming tablets out there

[sturdy lion]

But also a ton of PS2

[stiff quartz]

https://youtu.be/f7ntYf2WnhM This is RPCS3 with the Z1E and a lot of games perform well 17w or less

[sturdy lion]

Oh sick i didn't realise you had a vid on x86 too

[kindred crypt]

^^^^^

[stiff quartz]

You're gonna need x86 for those games for sure

RPCSX/aPS3e are just not mature enough

[kindred crypt]

consider PS3 experimental on Android, you are gonna have a much better time with an x86

[boreal hamlet]

the only game i would want to try is last of us i guess

not too interested in ps3 for my use case, but super cool that its happening

[kindred crypt]

not happening, not even on x86 is that game emulatable yet

[boreal hamlet]

ah damn didnt know that it wasnt playable on x86 either, thats crazy

[stiff quartz]

Yea, best to play the PC version honestly

[sturdy lion]

Think it's worth splurging for the ally x?

Over the steam deck/normal ally z1e

[stiff quartz]

If you can get a good deal second hand, otherwise you might be better off with the Xbox Ally X coming out soon.

[kindred crypt]

I was gonna say, might as well wait for the Xbox Ally, it's around the corner

[stiff quartz]

The regular Ally could be a good move if you don't mind tinkering a little and adding a bigger battery which makes it closer to the Ally X

might be able to find a good deal on it, but just keep in mind the issue with the micro SD slot on earlier units

[sturdy lion]

Thing is I'm in Pakistan so getting these handhelds is 1) expensive af and 2) hard af haha

There's a decent deal on an ally x rn but its still double the steam deck and non x ally

[kindred crypt]

you know you could just get a steam deck and put windows on it for PS3 emulation

it's an option, it does decent

[short gust]

Forget it, I looked at the new tests... looks like they fixed the performance issue with the software

[stiff quartz]

It must've been an issue with the Chinese units because I had a unit before global launch and never experienced issues with performance.

[short gust]

NP05J is Global unit right?

[stiff quartz]

Is the non-X Ally the Z1 or Z1E because if you can get the same price for a non-X Z1E as the Steam Deck, I'd go with that

[short gust]

bc now it perform solid

[sturdy lion]

Z1e!

[stiff quartz]

you can always do a battery mod if you need more battery life

[sturdy lion]

Yeah true

[stiff quartz]

that's the move honestly

[short gust]

z1e is beast price-performance, z1 good too but not that much, steam deck bad

[sturdy lion]

I only game in bed and i already have an extremely long USB C cable for charging so battery life isn't toooo much of a big deal for me

[main dock]

I’ve been wrestling with rpcsx/aps3e on android for a while now. Thought to try out rpcs3 on my ally (when I tried it a long time ago it wasn’t good). It was bliss. I can do 15W apu to play ridge racer 7 in 1080p120 (using LS)

[stiff quartz]

It's seriously so good

I hope we can see it get to that point on Android but it's definitely a few years away. It's just cool to have more ways to play these games on different platforms, there's some real gems that are stuck on PS3 (and Xbox 360) still.

[short gust]

when new video about ARM gaming coming or something like that? did u see latest Elite tests on new driver?

[main dock]

I don’t know what I would do with the Odin 3 now. Why struggle with tinkering when you can just pick up n play. I understand the allure of a smaller, less bulkier handheld. But it’s not worth it when the game either doesn’t work or crashes

[short gust]

no one still try bunch of AAA heavy games, data super small what start working now or where graphical issues gone or load normalized

one try GOW and every one try repeat it, bruh

[stiff quartz]

I really want to see if it's done anything for Switch emulation.

[short gust]

npc's

[stiff quartz]

always God of War 😅

[short gust]

15+- videos and GOW

[stiff quartz]

PS3 - God of War 3
PS2 - God of War II

[short gust]

so interesting right?

[stiff quartz]

PSP - God of War CoO

it never ends

[short gust]

u get A16?

also seems like driver 842.6 work better when u flash it as system (confirm - that fake)

weird

[short gust]

I'm currently recruiting elite owners, we'll be testing various x86 and Switch games

already 3

[wind delta]

😂 Meanwhile I am still struggling with Dolphin. I finally got Super Mario Sunburn and it still has bad frame drops on my 8 elite phone. It is not smooth as Russ claims in his 8 elite testing video.

Also tried all the new drivers

[boreal hamlet]

need to flash it to the system for switch testing right? or did they release a seperate driver for it already

[short gust]

yes

for now, maybe soon they add it like option (eden)

[short gust]

u flashed driver?

[wind delta]

I installed drivers within dolphin following this: https://github.com/K11MCH1/AdrenoToolsDrivers/blob/16e5a383/docs/dolphin.md

[short gust]

im not sure if latest drivers compatible with dolphin

via dolphin*

[wind delta]

It might not be. I'm just hoping dolphin gets more love and attention on this chipset 🥲 Many people seem to assume dolphin runs well for 8 elite raw power.

[short gust]

most games work perfect, but there exceptions like that

[trim panther]

Any news on review units yet?

Also is it retail price yet or early bird still?

[brisk escarp]

Early bird

[brisk escarp]

I think we're at least a month away from seeing a real life prototype

[toxic brook]

Yeah, they're pretty laser focused on the Thor.

[unborn estuary]

Thor units are just going out. It'll be awhile for the O3 yet.

[broken moth]

I forgot the shipping date. When is it again?

[arctic shoal]

End of Nov. or Dec I believe

[broken moth]

Thank you

[novel sigil]

I’m going back and forth on the Odin 3. Can the snapdragon elite play TOTK on default settings?

[errant sable]

[subtle zenith]

Iirc secret console e u is a .ess on elite as of right now

[short gust]

Crash insta

[trim panther]

Rubbish chip

[short gust]

emulators

all of them wasnt ready for this big driver, we try almost everything already

[trim panther]

What is it Eden are teasing? New driver?

[short gust]

yh

they trying to make it work properly

when done, Eden will dominate

[trim panther]

Elite sales will go up when totk and botw run really well

[novel sigil]

That help me make my decision since that is where I would want to use the extra power over the Odin 2

[short gust]

we already force it to run on max driver, but have issues 🙂

Eden next update will fix them

[main dock]

how much was odin 3 ultra again? i might just use that money towards a 5070

[worldly lantern]

$499 Super Early Bird

[main dock]

so basically 5070 money lol

[civic forge]

Mine is free because past me bought it for me already

[main dock]

elite getting open-sourced GPU drivers?!

thats huge

HUGE

[trim fossil]

It's... elite

[main dock]

Makes me want to stick around and see what’s up with elite……

[torn saffron]

To keep it simple, better vulkan compatibility.

This will help all stock drivers, but the 8 elite and above right now will be especially benefited by this becuase they have really good vulkan drivers and dont have any turnip support.

[ripe stirrup]

just refunded a superfan pro, there are 3 units available now if anyone interested
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/odin-3-the-ultimate-6-120hz-oled-gaming-handheld/x/17330162?secret_perk_token=ccbee811#

[wary matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story-woody-after-all-weve-been-through-betrayal-backstabber-gif-5430341

[main dock]

It’s ok. Riou is keeping his Odin 3 Max instead

[sick basin]

Got anything for how RPCS3 performs through winlator/gamehub on the elite by chance?

[main dock]

i like to use LS to boost the ps3 60fps games to 120fps

[stiff quartz]

I haven't explored it, I think there will be too much of a performance loss from the translation layer + emulation for PS3.

I think even with the power of the 8 Elite, it's not going to be enough to brute force and the games that it might be able to will just be better off running through RPCSX.

[main lodge]

Speaking of PS3 emulation it's neat that you don't even need a dedicated Gpu for them anymore

8700G handles basically everything at native, or if you want 1080p the Hx 370 with the 890m handles it

Although idk how well Lossless would work with that since there wouldn't be a lot of headroom

[subtle zenith]

iiirc the avx512 thing is important there ,,, and most amd cpus in these x86 handhelds has it ... even the deck apu

[umbral heron]

I do think if you're going to play a lot of PS3 especially once emulation for that improves in the coming years, I'd personally want at least 16 gigs of ram.
I've seen some say 12gb is good enough for PS3, which I'm bit skeptical about given both Windows and MacOS versions of RPCS3 recommend at least 16.

[main dock]

I’ve been playing rpcs3 1080p60 w/LS with just the ROG ally. 8700G is supposed to have one of the best igp’s around. I’m sure it’s much stronger than the ally

[nimble lark]

What's the latest we can cancel the pre order? Considering cancelling my superfan pro? If the face buttons are as noisy/clacky as the Thor I wouldn't be happy. I think a Ayn rep confirmed the buttons are the same on both so I assume the rubber membranes would be the same also and they both use a glass faceplate so should we expect any difference in the noise? Gutted as I am in the early 200,s for my order so would receive relatively quickly, decisions decisions.

[novel panther]

There's five days left on the IndieGoGo campaign. I've checked my contribution and it still lets me initiate a refund. So I reckon you have five days to do it easily yourself. You can likely still cancel afterwards though just by emailing AYN.

The Thor's buttons don't seem loud or clacky at all though? In Joey's livestream they sounded great

You gotta remember these YouTubers are pointing mics at the buttons and hitting them hard

[umbral heron]

I have super sensitive hearing to certain noises.
From what I have heard of the buttons, they’re not as bad as people are making them out to me, and I don’t like really clacky buttons x3
I can tolerate them somewhat

[novel panther]

The glass doesn't impact the noise cause the buttons are in a plastic disc, it's not like the RP Mini where the buttons were directly there in the glass

[umbral heron]

Obviously, quieter buttons is much preferable

[umbral heron]

This too.
It won’t be as noisy in person

[nimble lark]

Good point I will re watch the video and I havnt seen Joey's, thanks for the reply.

Thanks for the replies, I will try and not make a rash judgement I may regret down the line haha. Worst case scenario I could just sell it if I receive it and don't like it. I think it's just the anticipation of wanting the device and not actually seeing any footage of it haha.

[novel panther]

I do secretly hope you cancel so I get mine quicker

[keen tulip]

just FYI, there is currently a single superfan odin 3 max available (the link’s pinned in this channel)

[main lodge]

https://youtu.be/p38UkWuGI0c?si=deKZ802XMo_5dj39 the video I was using for reference was a bit dated tbh, over a year old

also nah the 8700g just has the 780m

although itd obviously run better with a higher 65w tdp

[main dock]

its awesome for those sub 4L sff builds

[tender palm]

I had a tiny build with that cpu and it worked awesome before I sold it here

[main lodge]

I'm hoping we get a 9700G/10700G soon with the 890m though, would be sweet

[main dock]

im more excited to see what intel-nvidia brings

[main lodge]

well they have the 140v/t but not on anything desktop either rn

[main dock]

well, the upcoming ones

[floral wyvern]

I think the difference between the 890m and 780m will be even smaller on desktop than we see on the Z1E to Z2E. Because you can’t do LP DDR ram on desktop and thus the bandwidth bottleneck will be even worse

Nvm, I see we are talking emulation. 9700G would be a beast at emulation and a big upgrade over 8700G

[main lodge]

🤔

The 8700G has a really solid feature people underrate as well tbh

It's a good cpu that you can use the iGpu for dedicated frame gen

You can also unlock the tdp and overclock the iGpu itself, which lets you do a frame multiplier of 2x with lossless scaling at 100 flow scale at 4K with low input latency and stable frame gen to 120

The chip draws about 87w while maxing out both but you can increase that to about 105w like other Ryzen chips and overclock the gpu to 500mhz above it's stock boost(2.9ghz up to 3.4ghz stably)

[short gust]

it more

LPDDR?

Alr, listen ...
DDR5 4800Mhz has 77GB/Sec
LPDDR5 6400Mhz has 51Gb/Sec 64bit / 102 128bit

DDR5-4800 128 бит 76.8 ГБ/с - Jedec
LPDDR5-6400 128 бит 102.4 ГБ/с - if we talk about laptops/handhelds that flagships
LPDDR5X-8533 128 бит 136.5 ГБ/с - Elite, Gen3
LPDDR5X-9600 128 бит 153.6 ГБ/с - Elite Gen5, Elite flagships, 9400, 9500
LPDDR5X-10667 128 бит 170.7 ГБ/с - D9400 flagships
DDR5-6000 cl30 128 бит 96 Гб/c - common cheap desktop ram setup

[floral wyvern]

Why do you double the bandwidth calc for desktop ddr5? What is jedec?

[short gust]

128bit they can use and they do

Jedec (its not only 4800) is memory standart

without xmp / expo profiles

[violet hamlet]

Hype hype hype

[versed pebble]

You're such a downer. 😂

[main dock]

Wow never thought of this. Can you use igp as frame gen processor in Lossless?

I will Google it myself

Oh cool. Time to enable my igp in bios

[violet hamlet]

No I mean HYPE HYPE HYPE! 😂

Rainbow lfg!

[versed pebble]

Oh of course.

[dark sundial]

Many people cancelled their orders? 4 super fan Odin 3 Pro left: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/odin-3-the-ultimate-6-120hz-oled-gaming-handheld?secret_perk_token=ccbee811#/

Konkr has truly taken off. It’s now 1300 vs 2033 of Odin 3 preorders

[keen tulip]

I wonder how many canceled and how many upgraded to max or ultra

[dark sundial]

At this rate it may exceed Odin 3 with 30 days more for preorders while Odin 3 preorders are closing in 2 days

[dark sundial]

Upgrade is possible. But that’s a big price jump from Super Fan Pro to Early Bird Max / Ultra

[wary matrix]

KONKR closing in, nice

but being realistic here, the KONKR is mainly flying off the shelves as the G3 Gen3 version, most people that want the Elite are still with the Odin 3

[ripe stirrup]

There is some in demand phase or other named stage after the initial campaign if I am not wrong

[ripe stirrup]

Permanent SEB pricing for konkr vs O3 's current pricing probably a larger factor, even for domestic orders.

[jagged grail]

just saw russ' review on the thor
how likely will odin 3 have the same plastic quality?
particularly the black still seems to hold a fair bit of oils and fingerprint marks

[gritty temple]

The first impressions you mean. All-glass front and black colour? Gotta live with smudges. That's just the situation we find ourselves in.

[jagged grail]

yeah that one

tho it doesnt look as bad as the plastic on my original odin 2, seems a bit grittier

[main dock]

Is it possible all these cancellations and new konkr orders are all Arthur’s?

[hallow juniper]

Idk abt that w the konkr elite having android 16

[autumn swan]

Maybe someone can share Superfan Max and Pro links? i thinking of downgradind from Ultra to cheaper version.

[wary matrix]

if you scroll up a bit there should be a link, because 4 pro were available again, max may be hard to get your hands on, doubt there were any re-appearing, same with ultra

[autumn swan]

Yeah, i took reappered Ultra, but thinking i’m not need 24 GB ram, maybe i can spend a little bit less ok this place. 🙂

[keen tulip]

they’re in this channel’s pins

[autumn swan]

oh, thanks 🙂

[wary matrix]

too late, all pro are gone now

[autumn swan]

i`m most interested to Max, i will wait 😉

[main lodge]

Depends what iGpu you have and what resolution you play at, 780m is good for 1440p at 100% flowscale-4K at about 80%, both for 60->120/2x multiplier

760M is good for 1080p 100% fs or probably 1440p at 80%

[main dock]

what does 9800x3d have

and i never understood what that flowscale thing was all about lol

[main lodge]

I'd refer to this video tbh, he tested an 8700G Vs 7800X3D and the 7800X3D struggled at 1080p at 100% flowscale because of how weak the iGpu is

It's basically just a diagnostic iGpu and a bonus for if your Gpu dies

https://youtu.be/RCw5Fj3QApY

Also what case/board are you running?

[main dock]

open chassis/x670e hero

[main lodge]

If you've got the budget and an extra pcie slot

You could probably just get an Rx 6400 for dedicated frame gen

It would be able for a lot more than the 780m

Probably able to 2-3x 100% flowscale 4K

At least with a base FPS of 60 for reference from that video

[main dock]

im just wondering what the performance hit would be, cause adding another pcie device will bifurcate the pcie slots to 8x each

also i would only be using LS for games that dont natively support DLSS4 (upscale+grame gen)

otherwise motionflow (2x global) has been working great as well

[main lodge]

What's your main gpu?

Isn't your motherboard dual 5.0 x16 anyway

It's still as fast or faster at x8 as a 4.0 x16

Which, I'm pretty sure there isn't a single card that is bottlenecked by a 4.0 x16

A 4090 iirc only suffers a 5% bottleneck from pcie 3.0 x16

[main dock]

5090

[main dock]

No, and I think it’s rare to see a mobo with dual x16 (when both in use)

[main dock]

True enough

[main lodge]

It says your board has two x16 slots on their spec site

[main dock]

Yes, but only x16 if only one slot is in use

If you use both, it gets bifurcated to 8x each

[main lodge]

Ah I see, either way running both in x8 wouldn't bottleneck anything

Is it possible to set the bottom one to less than x8 or does it only work in division?

Never really thought about it

[main dock]

I can’t remember what the options were

[main lodge]

I wonder can your board run one slot at x2 and still run the top at x16 maybe 🤔 because the 6400 wouldn't even be bottlenecked by 5.0 x2 I'm pretty sure

It's equivalent to 3.0 x8 which only starts to bottleneck cards like a 4060ti

[main dock]

Seems like it’s only 1x16 or 2x8

[main lodge]

Kinda pointless I'm rambling anyway, 5.0 x8 shouldn't bottleneck anything you've got

Here's an older thread comment I found on it

[main dock]

I should get a 4090 in the second slot for frame gen and/or PhysX lmao

[main lodge]

Nvidia is significantly worse for frame gen but you can brute force it I suppose yeah

You'd probably get better results with a far cheaper low-mid range amd gpu

[main dock]

How’s LS latency compared to DLSS+boost

[main lodge]

🤔 As far as I'm aware it's fairly low, and once it's stable on a 2x multiplier it's slight

Hardly noticeable

Probably more noticeable at 4x for obvious reasons

[main dock]

I would def get a second card if it meant getting frame gen working in VR lol

[main lodge]

🤔 I'm pretty sure lossless does work as frame gen for vr since it's using your video output from the program itself

Rather than an intermediate step inside it

[main dock]

I’ve tried. It just doesn’t work. Or I mean it works. But the output is just a jittery mess

With any type of frame gen

[main lodge]

https://youtube.com/shorts/IbJPekTz-ao?si=jMFYRVGb8AU6BTUc https://youtube.com/shorts/IbJPekTz-ao?si=Nb9s0GBHXQuU82WN

heres a good vid for comparisonf

one is 60 - 120 and one is 60 - 180, about a max of 6ms of latency according to this guy

this is lsfg 3.0 btw whereas the current version is lsfg 3.1 which lowered latency and improved image quality a bit

[keen tulip]

thanks for posting these! was able to snag an ultra just now.

[violet hamlet]

Of course! Awesome what color

[keen tulip]

purplllle

blue was a close 2nd though

hoping I don’t regret not getting black for that floating display look

but transparent purple O3 looks like the transparent purple GBA all grown up

[umbral heron]

The two transparent colors for the O3 are easily my favorite of the choices

I’m going with blue personally

[keen tulip]

that one is also fucking great

the transparent plastic adds some much-needed personality to what would otherwise just look like a long phone with extra buttons

[toxic brook]

I love the blue but my wife would kill me if I had a blue transparent system that she couldn't have (she's getting the Thor)

[keen tulip]

just get her an Odin 3 instead

his and hers

[toxic brook]

Nah, she's a huge DS fan and ever since she saw the first renders of the Thor she's been super interested in it. It's her birthday present as long as it makes it on time.

[keen tulip]

that makes total sense! they’re very different devices; if they weren’t both so pricy, I’d be tempted to get both myself.

[umbral heron]

I'll admit, as much as I would really love the Thor and to pair it with the Odin 3, if someone other than Retroid makes a better DS addon of some sort (or Retroid themselves make their addon less janky), I might get that for the Odin 3.
Would make more financial sense than getting two expensive handhelds

I'm pretty sure I'll likely only be able to get one or the other next year

I could also wait and see if any cheaper alternatives to the Thor pop up that are good and can play most if not the whole 3ds library and use the O3 as my main handheld

[keen tulip]

so uh, if Thor, with two displays, a less efficient chip, and 75% of the battery capacity, is getting battery life like this, I wonder how Odin 3's going to perform

[main dock]

im hoping the odin 3 has a bigger cooling solution

[keen tulip]

it's hard to tell for sure, but it sure looks like it has a lot of ventilation

[brisk escarp]

That power button looks like a fingerprint reader

[wary matrix]

lol, now they bring it back, didn't even notice

people complained on the Portal, because the Odin 2 had it, bet Odin 3 Portal has no fingerprint reader again?

[kindred crypt]

oh it will absolutely blow minds, people still underestimate what the elite chip really means

[kindred crypt]

and all of 3 people will notice, and the world will go on

[keen tulip]

a girl can dream

holy shit that would be awesome

[wary matrix]

I don't use the fingerprint on all my Aya devices, I won't use it on the Odin 3

[keen tulip]

gonna be awesome if it's basically a turbo switch lite

but with the ability to play super discounted steam indies instead of paaying the nintendo tax

[wary matrix]

you could play the Steam Indies on a G3 Gen3 KONKR, this will play the AAA games

fuck paying Square Enix good money for a GKC of a game I have on Steam already

[main dock]

holes for ventilation is one thing, but im wondering what the size is for the fan and heatsink

did the pocket air have a fingerprint power button?

or was that the air

[keen tulip]

look I just wanna play Hades 2 at 1080/120 for five hours okay

[keen tulip]

ah fair, I'd hope both are reasonably large/powerful to make solid use of thata ventilation, but who knows

[main dock]

The g3x g2 is a capable chip, only to be held back by the evo and dmg’s dinky fans

Not only were the fans dinky, a lot of them didn’t even have proper thermal pads lmao

[keen tulip]

were the evo and dmg ayaneo?

I'd guesss the Odin 3's cooling setup will be similar to past ayn devices, though I could be wrong

[main dock]

yes

when will handhelds have rails on the back to slide on external cooling solutions

[keen tulip]

probably never lol

[main dock]

i guess its not standardized

[keen tulip]

you could probably design a 3d printed, snap-on, USB-C-powered cooling setup, though

[kindred crypt]

maybe make the cooling good enough that you don't need this in the first place

[main dock]

https://tenor.com/view/arthur-cartoon-aardvark-zoom-gif-20444541

[novel panther]

Welp that's me scarred for life

[wind delta]

So today I have been playing Baldurs gate dark alliance on my 8 elite phone. I never had any issues with nethersx2 on this phone before, but this game seems to cause a lot of trouble. At 3x resolution, the game cannot maintain 60 fps in the sewer level 1 area and the phone becomes very hot.

It could be a title for testing 8 elite device with active cooling.

[ripe stirrup]

Snowblind engine games tend to be harder to emulate iirc, and you will need use the main nethersx2 (4248) instead of 3668/classic

[kindred crypt]

surprising zero people but there you go

[versed pebble]

So we shouldn't be getting Odin 3 devices in our mailboxes before… February ?

[kindred crypt]

December is probably a reasonable expectation

[novel panther]

Current plan is late November for shipping to start, says on their IGG page

So if you've got a low contribution ID and chose a popular SKU, you should have yours in Dec I reckon

[versed pebble]

Hmmm where can I check the contribution ID ? 🤔

[versed pebble]

OK, weird

The campaign says 2089 backers but my order ID is over 3000. 🤨

[halcyon solar]

Probably cancels reorders etc adding to order #s

[versed pebble]

Ah, yes.

Makes sense.

[keen tulip]

yeah, my number's in the 4400s

so they had a lot of cancellations, though I'd hazard a guess that a good chunk of those were to change spec/color/accessories

[autumn swan]

yeah, at least 2 cancelations were mine 😄 and one of them was a big mistake, because after ordered first day i started to see a lot of worries about capabilities and canceled it 🙁 i had good place - 467 i think

[novel panther]

Yeah lotsa people have multiple cancellations lol. Super Fan discounts keep coming in and out of stock, so people snatch them up and cancel their previous Super Early Bird or Early Bird orders.

I was there at like 2am when it launched and clicked on the super fan link, but didn't realise the option I had to click was all the way on the left, ended up going for a normal super early bird Ultra instead. So cancelled that and re-did it as a Super Fan like 5 mins later

Went from a double-digit CID to a triple-digit one

[ripe stirrup]

failed orders due to payment not making through or auto declination by banks also count to the contribution number

[toxic hull]

I'm glad I pre-ordered the clear purple, it looks awesome. 💜

[runic ferry]

I preordered purple but ended up changing to black. Wasnt a fan of transparent shell around buttons not matching the glass or vice versa. Messed with my ocd and couldn’t unsee it

[umbral heron]

I wanna see a proper image of the blue first to see if the contrast would really bother me much

I don’t put much stock in a render

[runic ferry]

Looking at above image, 2 different shades of purple

Glass vs plastic

It would be cool for a few days but would bother me after that. So glad i close black. Also for the game bezels blending into shell

[umbral heron]

Ok yeah, I see now where the glass fronts are (thought they’d be in different places)
I find it weird it’s not the same shade

Might grow to like it, will see. Rather see how it looks when it’s actually on the device itself

It’s certainly… interesting and not something that has really been done before with transparent devices. I just am unsure how much I’ll like or dislike it

[runic ferry]

Im actually digging the rainbow a bit now i can see it properly

But i made my choice

[umbral heron]

Someone made a good point in the AYN server that the device might look darker overall with the components inside

So ye, even more reason for me to wait and see what it actually looks like when on the device

[frank hare]

It's the best imo

[umbral heron]

The Rainbow looks awesome

Not my favorite choice here, but I dig it

[hasty cobalt]

Comparing the internals of Odin 3 and Pocket Fit

[celest jay]

O3 has fan envy 🤣

[umbral heron]

It’s a trade-off I’m willing to accept for bigger sticks and buttons.
Hope the cooling is good enough 🙏

[leaden hollow]

Looks like blue actually looks a lot different than the purple nice.

[main dock]

So many nice things about the fit. If only they got their hands on some OLED

[wary matrix]

who cares, it is a really good IPS panel and I won't play it next to my Portal to see that it ain't OLED

[main dock]

I care….

[versed pebble]

Exactly. If I buy three nearly identical products, I NEED TO KNOW which one was not an irrational waste of money.

[celest jay]

They should just put a black glass front on the purple and blue, imo

[umbral heron]

I personally do not want that.
The whole point of picking something other than black for me is because I want a colorful device.

If it looks anything like those black front edits I’ve seen people do of the Thor as well, I think it looks terrible, but that’s a personal taste thing

[leaden hollow]

wait which one is the third? Konkr, Odin 3, and

[versed pebble]

Odin 2 Portal

[leaden hollow]

Oh

[kindred crypt]

there's only so many ways that you can put these things together

the innards here also look identical to the rp5, rpmini, o2portal, O2, and a bunch of Android Anbernic handhelds

they're all android phones with controls attached to them

[kindred crypt]

alright who's gonna do photoshop to see how the transparents look with the glass front on top

[toxic hull]

I hope it will look good... 😅

[versed pebble]

Thank you for explaining my (admittedly not very sophisticated) joke. 😂

[kindred crypt]

me, I did the photoshop thing

blue is just a guess ofc, we don't know what that will end up being yet irl

[short gust]

O3 more expensive build

but konkr has better cooling solution

[umbral heron]

The contrast between the solid glass and transparent cutouts isn’t that bad imo.
I think I’ll like it fine enough

[keen tulip]

yeah, I actually think real-life (and then photoshopped ofc) purple looks way better on Odin 3 than on Thor – maybe because there's not this weird clash between purple glass bottom screen bezel + purple plastic + black glass top screen bezel?

[leaden hollow]

We'll see about that

Ayaneo doesn't have the best track record for cooling afaik

[autumn swan]

oh wow, blue color looks soo amazing.. maybe i will change to it.

[umbral heron]

I’m so glad I was among those who requested a clear blue and also voted for it 💙

It’s going to be an absolute fav for me when I get it near the end of next year.
Maybe it’ll even drop in price a bit if the Odin 3 Portal is a thing by then. I want the smaller size of the Odin 3.

Also, very curious about this but are there any videos at all of Sonic Racing Crossworlds running on the 8 Elite?
Want to see how viable it’d be at all for Gamehub Lite to run it. I want to play it online and also have a few mods (the 2d portrait art ones mainly)

Tried to search for them but didn’t find any

I’d assume with it having a Switch 1 port (which is the one I currently have), it might be able to run on low settings at the least, but I can’t say for certain

[jagged grail]

their latest update gives me hope the plastic will be much better vs fingerprints/oils than the odin 2 🤞

[keen tulip]

from what I’m seeing, it sounds like that doesn’t even boot in gamehub currently

[autumn swan]

Sonic Racing Crossworld is booting on Gamehub on Odin2 Portal, just it is needed add -dx11 to command line. But performance is playable just with low settings.

i think this game will be smootly on Elite.

[main dock]

cancel your odin 3 orders
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-sound-wave-apu-with-32x27mm-package-appears-in-shipping-manifests

[trim panther]

Steam deeecckkkk

[spare willow]

2 P cores + 4 E cores with 4 RDNA 3.5 compute units. This thing is not competing with the 8 Elite or any windows handheld

Seems like a low power windows tablet or chromebook chip

[ripe stirrup]

The Mendocino has decent performance for a 2CU rdna2, this might be it's replacement for windows on arm devices like the surface mentioned in the article, don't mind seeing it in a more budget handheld as well.

[kindred crypt]

ok you go first

[keen tulip]

yeah, the article literally says it won’t be able to compete with snapdragon elite chips

[trim fossil]

I just ordered an Odin 3 so I could cancel it

[versed pebble]

Thank you for doing your part.

[novel sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/soundwave-cry-about-it-cry-about-it-soundwave-gif-27073328

[undone bough]

There is “AI” written on the visual. Does it mean a waste of transistors for gaming purpose ?

[torn saffron]

maybe, the NPU does help with upscalers, they can use more complex models without impacting performance as much

[main dock]

Just means you can watch more ai slop while you’re gaming

[versed pebble]

Auto-translation ?

[spare willow]

I wonder if future NPUs will become complex enough to emulate the ps3's SPU for ps3 emulation

[main dock]

they will become so advanced that they will play the game for you

[wind delta]

Next gen handhelds should be able to review themselves with the power of AI

[torn saffron]

Some of the more complex models are actually trained on the original game, and use a ton of extra data from in game to be more accurate such as motion vectors on character rigs. As long as you arent going crazy with upscaling like balanced/performance at 4x frame gen, then it actually looks great and runs way better.

Its not ideal that games are being built expecting heavy upscaling and 2-4x frame gen, but the actual technology isnt bad.

Also once npus become more standard, you can actually just shove non ai tasks onto it free up resources elsewhere. Which would help woth efficiency.

[keen tulip]

wild that this info was buried in IGG comments

[versed pebble]

Heh

You're right.

On the other hand, I don't think a device that advertises its dockability would make much sense without bypass charging capability.

But making sense is not a priority in 2025. 😄

[keen tulip]

huh I wonder if this means we’ll see a performance boost while docked due to lack of, or at least reduced, thermal throttling

[versed pebble]

Hard to say. I suspect reviewers should start receiving Odin 3's around November (if they don't already have them and/or the reviews may still be under embargo).

[keen tulip]

I assume reviewers don’t have O3 yet, Ayn said they wouldn’t even be sending prototype units to drivers devs until this week

[versed pebble]

(Totally unrelated : always fun to learn a new pronoun. Never heard of fae before.)

[keen tulip]

but I am hopeful we’ll see reviews trickling in some time in november

[keen tulip]

thanks! it’s one of the more common singular nonbinary pronouns, and I just don’t love they/them, grammatically speaking.

[versed pebble]

Yeah I get that. French is even worse in that respect. One of my nephews is nb and we just don't have non-gendered words for "niece/nephew", so speaking about them is complicated at best. 😅

I tend to use they/them because most people around me use that, but I agree that linguistically, it's at best a dirty barbarism. 😐

Anyway back on topic : which O3 did you get ? 😄

[keen tulip]

purple ultra!

[versed pebble]

Argh. Like the colour, dislike the design. 😕

[keen tulip]

I’m really hype to load it up with PC indies and games I never got around to playing in my teens

[versed pebble]

I got the black one (how original).

EXACTLY !

[keen tulip]

I’ve been flip-flopping about switching to the rainbow model ever since I ordered, I think it would rock with a famicom red button swap

[versed pebble]

I see it as a miniature Steam Deck, a portable indie backlog killer.

[umbral heron]

It won't be until next year for me (potentially even around Christmas time) but going with Blue Max personally

[keen tulip]

hey you’ll be able to rock that floating display look and that ain’t nothing!

I will say I’ve now seen customer pics of the purple Thor and it looks way better than it does in the marketing photos

[versed pebble]

Yes ! Hide those unsightly borders !

[keen tulip]

the blue is gorgeous but I’ve been wanting a purple handheld ever since I missed out on the purple GBC

[versed pebble]

It was either the black or the white one for me (white and orange looks great, I think), but I have a black RP5 and it's really immersive, so yeah.

I'd have jumped on a matte blue.

Or a matte dark crimson, for that matter. ❤️

[umbral heron]

Purple is the one I would've gone with if the blue wasn't a thing

[versed pebble]

Yeah if I had to choose only between the purple and the blue, I'd have picked the purple.

[keen tulip]

yeah, I think the glass front doesn’t do the transparent models any favors

I do think the Odin is going to fare better than the Thor in general in that regard, though

like even the black Thor looks kinda funky in the thumbnail for Stubbs’ livestream, and I think the issue is the plastic hinge and bottom bump protruding from the glass panels

[umbral heron]

I don't think it looks all that bad, but that's just my opinion

I would rather it not be there

[keen tulip]

but yeah this irl pic of the purple honestly looks pretty good to me

I still think they could’ve picked a better shade of purple for that glass panel but what can ya do?

[umbral heron]

It's a bit weird they didn't go with a shade that matched the shade of the transparent parts of the shell

[keen tulip]

I’m guessing this is like

the same shade by RGB/CMYK

but it’s perceptually different because of the different materials

the rainbow colorway is fascinating in that its level of beigeness vs greatness seems highly affected by the color temperature of the surrounding ambient lighting

[versed pebble]

Wow.

Almost reminds me of the 8BitDo controller variants.

Pretty weird that it's the same color on the Thor. 😄

[keen tulip]

I do suspect the picture where it looks fully grey is the phone camera doing something weird to the white point

also quit making me think about the pro 3

[versed pebble]

Me ? What. Where ? I did nothing.

*hides*

-# I don't want a Pro 3 either, stop thinking I do. It's absurd. Why would I want one. Hahahaha.

[keen tulip]

-# same, my og sn30+ pro is clearly just fine

[subtle zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[vague helm]

What about the new MCon ?

https://ohsnap.com/collections/mcon/products/mcon-magnetic-controller

[toxic brook]

MCon is very cool, but that price is insane sorry

[novel panther]

👀

[ripe stirrup]

is there some new link for odin 3 igg? the one i saved seems to have everything disabled

[versed pebble]

https://www.indiegogo.com/en/projects/ayntechnologies/odin-3-the-ultimate-6-120hz-oled-gaming-handheld#/section/rewards/reward-product-583796

Works for me… ?

[ripe stirrup]

hmm, same results, add to pledge button disabled

konkr one still working fine

just trying to navigate and get used to the new site

where did they hide the refund contribution button now?

[versed pebble]

Weird. 🤨

[ripe stirrup]

everything is a mess

[versed pebble]

Yeah the new UI is a bit more confusing than before.

[ripe stirrup]

seems like they remove the option for you to initiate any refund directly

[west owl]

Do you know until when the early bird prices will be available/ when the indiegogo campains ends ? thanks

[torn saffron]

Usually within a month or 2 from when its on their site. No garentees tho

[kindred crypt]

dang the more I see purple the more I regret going for black

[short gust]

ooooooooo

it out

[kindred crypt]

too bad it already shipped

[short gust]

that the best controler for mobile actually

[versed pebble]

It looks very uncomfortable.

[main dock]

jesus christ....

[keen tulip]

price of an RP5 for a phone controller is hilariously out of touch

[versed pebble]

Yeah but it's MAGNETIC.

It will improve your sex life AND your children's school grades.

[kindred crypt]

I think we have different definitions for "ultra thin and pocketable AF"

more pocketable than a traditional console controller I guess

[versed pebble]

Just the fact that they use "AF" in the marketing material is a huge turnoff for me.

[keen tulip]

the more I see the purple the less worried I am that I didn’t pick black lol

[short gust]

psp 😄

[keen tulip]

I just don’t get the draw of this over a gamesir X2S

[versed pebble]

That's absurd. Didn't you see the show ? Orange is the new black. Purple is a completely different color, it's much more reddish bluegreen with a pinch of cleargrey.

[keen tulip]

purple is the better orange

checkmate

[versed pebble]

WHAT

No.
That can't be.

HAVE I BEEN FOOLING MYSELF ALL THESE YEARS

[keen tulip]

yes

sorry to break the bad news to you

[versed pebble]

OK

I need purple spray paint.

And citrus fruits.

Things are about to change, kiddoes.

[sonic oxide]

Looks like a gba glued to a phone

[keen tulip]

it’s so weird that grapefruit is only purple on the inside

[versed pebble]

Right ? I knew I wasn't the only one that bothered.

It's like passion fruit : super tasty and a lovely name, but inside it looks like something that grew in the sewer.

[toxic brook]

Well now I can't unsee that

[keen tulip]

passion fruit is best served as part of a drink

[kindred crypt]

I'm excited for the blue Odin 3 after having seen how the purple Thor turned out in real life

gonna be a banger

[versed pebble]

Oh I disagree, it's really good by itself too ! 🙂

[civic forge]

Yeah but it's not the best by itself. Only really good. It's still best served as part of a drink xD

[lost cloak]

Would be pretty funny if it was the opposite of the purple thor. looks great in official shots; everyone hates it when they get it. 😆

[kindred crypt]

honestly it didn't look that good in the initial render shot, that was an uphill battle to get it to win the poll

[keen tulip]

yeah it’s gonna rock

the main things breaking the blend are the hinge, the black upper screen glass, and the bottom bump, none of which will be present on the Odin 3

[undone bough]

Plus the bottom bump is likely to make some screens break under pressure in a bag or a pocket.

[deft harness]

Awesome, hope AYN can show the actual product of clear blue soon

[versed pebble]

I keep thinking that an opaque purple version would look even better. 😐

[main lodge]

Has anyone here played the Master Chief Collection on GameHub on an Odin 2?

[torn saffron]

Honestly i doubt that it will actually break it. But if you are worried you can put foam sticker dots on the corners. Im going to be doing this. Ill measure the thickness of the gap with some inside calipers and post in the thor thread.

[keen tulip]

I’m more worried about the panel flexing and breaking from pressure exerted on the corners

[keen tulip]

and here I keep thinking a smoky black would’ve looked better…

[versed pebble]

Matte black, folks. Classy, timeless.

[keen tulip]

https://emuready.com/listings/cf63d209-ed52-4ef3-a145-aebb773a81bd

[versed pebble]

Fingerprint-unfriendly.

[undone bough]

Yes. That is exactly my point.

No reviewer has still tried to flex both sides at the same time, which doesn’t claim for a strong confidence over the desing.

[undone bough]

Or I just don’t buy a Thor. At that price point, I don’t want to mess with DIY. I’ll wait for a better design…

… or an Odin 3 !!

[main lodge]

I should try use this more, find it awkward to navigate on Mobile though

[hearty egret]

Bookmarked, didn't know this site exists

[keen tulip]

fascinating, I use it on mobile fairly often and have never had issues

I just go to Games and search for the game I want to see

the horizontally scrolling table format isn’t ideal but I also don’t spend much time there

[vague helm]

Doesn't block speakers

• Lets you type easily
• you can fold back the controller to type in portrait mode

[keen tulip]

you can type in portrait mode perfectly fine with the X2S

the speaker being blocked is a fair point, though I’ve not really noticed that issue

but the MCON is just very unergonomic and the weighting is gonna feel so awful

[vague helm]

I'm waiting for a test by @cerulean rose

I hope he can order it and tell us how good/bad it is

[wind delta]

I made several 3d printed slide out designs (8bitdo lite and lite 2, iine, and acegamer). I liked them until I switched to this new phone that is much heavier. Now I just stick to my x2s 😂

MCON might be slightly better because the phone goes up and tilts.

[vague helm]

Yes I like that too

it makes it a bit easier to have the screen above and tilted this way

[broken moth]

I will be selling my MCON when it comes. Couldn't cancel the backing. When from something simple to not what I wanted.

[versed pebble]

I get that. 😕

[main dock]

https://tenor.com/view/swap-indiana-jones-harrison-ford-indiana-jones-and-the-last-crusade-substitute-gif-21875110

[versed pebble]

Who is this male Lara Croft wannabe ?

[main dock]

thats drake

[versed pebble]

Oh yeah, the guy from the Marvel movies.

[toxic brook]

No you're thinking of Drax. That's the guy from National Treasure.

[versed pebble]

DAMNIT

I always confuse Cage and Bautista !!! 🤬

[toxic brook]

Nah Cage is the guy from Mortal Kombat. You're thinking of the guy from The Rock.

[versed pebble]

😱

So many actors.

Wait… isn't Cage from Ally McBeal ?

[trim fossil]

Dwayne Johnson?

[toxic brook]

Wrong The Rock!

Now it is broken!

[versed pebble]

It's the EXACT same guy, there's no way you don't confuse them.

It's like the Odin 3 and the RP5.

[lucid cargo]

If I got the purple one and black cover, should I ask them to switch to the clear cover?
Do those of yall that have a Odin 2 find yourself playing a lot with the cover?

[umbral heron]

Yep, the transparent cutouts on the Purple O3 here don’t bother me as much as they do on the Thor.
I really want to see how the blue will look now

I gotta say though, the Rainbow color option looks amazing, actually impressed with how that one looks

Ergo bumps look decently sized too.
Bit of a shame I likely can’t get this until around end of 2026 x)

Very certain I’d get this though even if the Odin 3 Portal became a thing by the time I do

[merry sail]

Didn't see anything in the demo that shows Odin 3 doing anything the Odin 2 can't. I think I might just sit this one out and wait for the Odin 4.

[brisk escarp]

Oof. Right stick ergo looks as bad as I feared on the O3 and also the missing height to rest it comfy in your palm.. 🙁

[floral wyvern]

The O3 ‘will’ be able to do things the O2 can’t but those particular emulators aren’t mature yet. When gameshub and ps3 emu are mature then I’ll see a reason to upgrade past the 8gen2

[gritty temple]

It should have better streaming performance right out of the gate and it is more powerful in general. That doesn't mean a lot without driver support, that may/will come in the future.

If you're not interested in taking a plunge or just owning one of the first elite chip devices this is not the handheld for you at launch.

There are loads of question marks surrounding the Odin 3 which I find exciting. The Odin 2 line of devices is the best we got right now, so there's no reason to upgrade if you're happy with it.

[umbral heron]

Does it really?
It’s hard for me to tell without physically holding one and Idk how big or small this person’s hands are, but ergo bump + inset stick would still make it better than a Switch Lite ergo wise, wouldn’t it?
I might even find this more comfortable than my LCD Switch 1 bc it’s not flat

I wasn’t expecting this to be as comfortable as something like a Portal with a grip on anyways, but this seems alright for what I wanted out of a smaller candybar handheld that’s around the size of a Switch Lite

[brisk escarp]

It seems closer to RP5 than it does to the Odin 2 or Portal

Nothing to do with hand size, but seeing how in the video he/she/they awkwardly try to reach the right stick is an indicator

[versed pebble]

I considered the grip part of the overall price. 🤷‍♂️

[umbral heron]

We’ll see I suppose.
I find the people from the companies in this space playing these handhelds hold them fairly weirdly in a good amount of the demos compared to how some if not most would

[versed pebble]

The only device I've used that didn't require a grip at all was the RG556.

[brisk escarp]

Sure, I ordered the grip too. And the case for it. Yet I was hoping it could comfortably do without

Didn't look that bad in the fotos (without a hand for reference)

[versed pebble]

Fair.

[umbral heron]

It might be able to depending on hand size, but you likely already know if it will or not judging off the footage

I won’t know for certain personally until I hold my own unit sometime next year, but I’m optimistic

I have mediumish or just smaller hands. Might find it good without a grip

[brisk escarp]

"Know" is a strong word. "Suspect" or "anticipate" might be more appropriate

I mean.. I like the RP5 without grips..

I use it a lot without the grips

[umbral heron]

True.
Could always try it without a grip and see how it does

[brisk escarp]

But I hoped that the O3 might be a lot less crampy than it looks like in the footage

I mean, I'll still keep my order and I'll figure it out. It isn't like this is a surprise to me. Just wished the demo didn't harden my suspicion of it being a bit crampy

[umbral heron]

I kind of want to get a Switch Lite now and try that out to see if I find that comfortable or not.
If I do, I see no reason why this wouldn’t be comfy for me without a grip

I suspect part of the reason my hands cramp playing the Switch 1 in handheld mode is the flat ergos in combination with the bigger size

[versed pebble]

Without a grip, it's not.

[umbral heron]

That’s what I’m expecting since it’s still very flat, but it’d also be easier for me to play without needing to sit my arms on a desk

Which I have to do with my Switch 1 when I play it at work during my breaks or before my shift for extended period of time

[versed pebble]

I have a translucent grip, you can see the flatness of the Switch Lite.

[umbral heron]

Yeah, that’s still pretty flat

[versed pebble]

Still a lot more comfortable than without it. 😄

[umbral heron]

Oh no, I wasn’t referring to the grip

I meant the Switch Lite itself x3

The grip looks great

[versed pebble]

I like my Switch Lite very much but it has a few drawbacks : quiet but VERY small controls, horrible sticks and a very average screen.

[versed pebble]

Oh yeah, sorry.

[umbral heron]

You’re good! It’s my bad too for wording it weirdly

But yeah, my family has two Switch Lites. Think I’ll hold one for a bit to see what it’s like

[versed pebble]

(The RP5 is a damn fingerprint magnet. 😬 )

Weirdly the Switch Lite dpad's span is bigger but it's less chonky. I prefer the one on the RP5.

[umbral heron]

I thought about getting an RP5 last year.
Idk if I want it anymore given I only intend to have two emu handhelds at most, but it’s a great handheld from what I’ve seen

[trim panther]

The Odin 3 bumps look more like the rp mini than rp5, which is good

[versed pebble]

A year ago it would have made sense. Not so much today.

[gritty temple]

It was the handheld to get last year. Retroid has a lot of catching up to do nowadays.

[umbral heron]

Fairly curious to see what they'll do with the RP6 pricing wise.
Given the current price of the Konkr fit, I think they might have to price the RP6 more competitively, but that Konkr price is Early Bird pricing, so there might still be a relatively ok price they can do.

[main dock]

Need to wait for Odin 3 Portal Thor

[sonic oxide]

RP 5 is 199$ now. The RP 6 probably will be 249$ with a 10$ preorder discount I cant see them going lower

[umbral heron]

Portal would be a bit too big for me, but Ik that will be really exciting for a lot of people when the O3Portal inevitably comes out

[boreal hamlet]

Oh base price is actually $200 now?

[sonic oxide]

Yeah all models except classic had a price drop last week

[boreal hamlet]

I've been hearing for a year how the rp5 is only "$200"

Glad its actually 200 now lol

[umbral heron]

865 Flip 2 also went down in price to $209

[versed pebble]

I wonder what the margins are.

At $175 they'd sell them like hot cakes.

[umbral heron]

I expect the D1100 Flip 2 will also go down to $149-159 eventually once they run out of RP4P stock.
Bit surprised they didn't also lower the price of the lower spec model x3

Feel like that would genuinely be a nice recommendation as a first handheld for someone who doesn't want something lower end if they ever lower it more

[kindred crypt]

to me it looks very close to the bumps on the og Odin 2

[brisk escarp]

Ignore the bumps, the bumps on the back are fine.

It's the height (or lack thereof) that's the "problem".

The Odin 2 or Konkr or Logitech G Cloud for example you can rest comfortably in your palms (bottom left and bottom right) and gives a natural span and radius for your thymbs to reach everything without turning/moving your wrist much

On the Portal for example they have massive rounded edges vs the Logitech G cloud or the Ayaneo Evo, so there's nothing on the device that can rest in your palms making the device lower in your hands and your hands/wrists naturally turn in an awkward position when holding the device

The Pocket 5 requires a completely different style of holding it, but it's actually fine when you grt the hang of it - with the exception of the sticks being almost in-line with the abxy and dpad which makes you make your wrists turn and your thumbs curling in uncomfortably, almost crampy because they can't move in a natural radius

And the Odin 3 looks like the worst of all. Almost in-line, nothing to rest in your palms and big, chunky grips that make you hold the Odin 3 like a controller but without the room for you thumb to move naturally.

RP5 imho in that respect is almost better ergonomically. They have a reason for how and why they did those small bumps, because you need to hold the device differently entirely, mostly like the Odin 3 in the video. You "lay" it down on your curled fingers and span the flanges with your knuckles.

When doing that grip style, combined with it's 280g of weight it's actually pretty ergonomic given it's size

The Konkr went for the "hold it like a controller" grip which is different, but also great

Portal and now Odin 3 seem to have taken the worst of both worlds, lol. Too short with too big of ergo bumps.

But all of that is based on hypotheticals from one single video from someone trying to present it to a camera.. so until it reaches actual hands and reviews we can only speculate

[kindred crypt]

yeah, in that regard it does seem closer to the rp5 than anything else

[lone flax]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF_rfoY-MX0
AYN Odin 3 🔥

[keen tulip]

huh, that grip shape looks awfully familiar...

that actually makes me very hopeful for Odin 3 ergo

[worldly lantern]

Thanks for sharing that. Not confident in the ergo. After going through a Portal and Mini, I'd rather have a device that isn't made with a grip case assumption just to hit a "thiness" selling point 😮‍💨

[versed pebble]

Right ? 😄

-# (btw these closeup renders are borderline pornographic)

[keen tulip]

seriously the shape resemblance is scary

weird thing: I’m a little worried that the paddles will mess with the ergo and/or I’ll have to unmap the paddles to prevent accidentally pressing them

[versed pebble]

I was thinking the same thing. We'll see when we receive them. 🤷‍♂️

[keen tulip]

-# (they really are fantastic, Odin 3 got that Corvette energy)

[versed pebble]

See what I mean ? 😂

[keen tulip]

-# (shoulda called this handheld Freya because she got them curves)

-# (okay that's enough tiny parenthetical text)

[versed pebble]

I used to have a rabbit named Freya.

She was both terrifying and cute.

Although I would never have confused her with a handheld.

[keen tulip]

sounds like an accurate embodiment of a Norse god, then

[versed pebble]

She was.

One of the smartest bunnies I'd had. We'd play football in the corridor.

(For those unfamiliar with rabbits : they're usually not the smartest animals.)

[keen tulip]

that's wild, I don't know if I've ever met a smart bunny

[versed pebble]

I'm not kidding, I got of one those super light balls you can play with at the beach, and I'd shoot it gently towards her. She'd wait for the ball to come, stop it with her front paw and then push it towards me with her snout.

And when I was ill, she'd sense it and come willingly onto my lap to soothe me.

I had several other rabbits before and after, but that one was special.

[main dock]

i play with my little balls at the beach too

https://tenor.com/view/right-to-jail-right-away-fred-armisen-parks-and-rec-right-to-jail-jail-gif-1866630920936314540

[keen tulip]

she sounds lovely

[versed pebble]

She was. 🙂

Marie, her name was.

After the aristocat.

[torn saffron]

Looks wider than the odin 2, thats good it was my main complaint with it on ergos so this should be better

[subtle zenith]

is that the famous "sleeping baby possition" grip design?

[fiery flume]

anyone else planning to order the white one?

these look sooo clean in white but i'm worried itll be distracting/reflective if i play in the dark

[kindred crypt]

I have an O2 Portal in white, which is basically the same but bigger; it's totally fine, not distracting at all in any lighting condition, go for it if you like it

[fiery flume]

ohh nice ok that's reassuring

no plans on playing anything in 4:3 so this should be perfect

[worldly violet]

Btw if you guys wanted to upgrade your IGG pledge, you can’t. I had to have support cancel my pledge for the Pro so I could order the Max on the website. Lost out on the $50 super fan savings, but I really wanted the 16 GB RAM, oh well

[gritty temple]

I'm basically the same. They offered me to pay $90 to their PayPal and update my order that way. 12 GB RAM seems too low for the Elite chip, but losing that super fan discount hurts.

[ripe stirrup]

The superfan had limited units for each SKU, even before the recent igg change (and campaign ending there), you can't do a superfan upgrade to another superfan sku directly.
You have to place a new order (while there are still units available for the other sku ) and cancel the older one.

[unborn estuary]

Email or ask Nicole if you can get the price adjusted to match your previous pledge

[unborn estuary]

12gb should be fine. Covered ram usage in my Thor review and in what cases it would be worth it. Worded it pretty good I think on who should pick what.

[gritty temple]

You cover the Odin 3 RAM usage in your Thor review?

[unborn estuary]

Na just which ram spec is worth picking in general for Android.

Same application applies to the Odin 3

You'll hit the bottleneck on the SOC far before needing 24gb ram. But storage is ideal either way since Windows games run so well on arm now. 16gb is the absolute max id ever get on an arm device.

[worldly violet]

I did see RAM sometimes get to about 13 GB on my S2, so I figured it’s good to have a little extra breathing room

[gritty temple]

I see, thank you.

[unborn estuary]

Yeah 16gb is perfect I think. Gives you that extra headroom if needed. Even with trying to push my ram usage to the limit, the most I've seen is about 12-13gb as well, but that again was me trying to fill it out.

[worldly violet]

Hey everyone, figured people might be interested in this tool to make using switch ROMs a little easier, especially with more people using GameHub https://youtu.be/PsGPzbxQhnk

[gritty temple]

Have you tried playing something like FF7Remake on the Elite chip?

If so, how did that go?

[unborn estuary]

I had Doom 2016 running but I don't own ff7 remake

[worldly violet]

Emailed support back, see what they say 🤞

[unborn estuary]

Doom 2016 was very playable.

[unborn estuary]

Good luck 🤞🤞

I think they'll do it for ya

[brisk escarp]

They won't upgrade the SF.

I've tried to get them to upgrade my Max SF to Ultra SF a while back and they won't do it because of the limited amount thing, which is fair I'd guess.

They said the only way for upgrading SF is to cancel and snipe one if a slot opens up.

But who knows, maybe they have different rules for influencers.. 🤷 doesn't hurt to try.

[gritty temple]

Yep, this is what I got yesterday.

[unborn estuary]

At least you tried. I'm sure you'll get your money's worth from it anyways.

[fiery flume]

ok, got my order in... this is gonna be the slowest month waiting for this thing

[main dock]

just ordered a 5070 yesterday i should cancel the thor

[unborn estuary]

Hope it doesn't catch fire.... those connectors on that generation scare me personally

[main dock]

my 5090 been fine so far

🪵

[trim panther]

All the graphics!

[main dock]

https://tenor.com/view/the-little-mermaid-little-mermaid-i-want-more-want-more-more-gif-3727268

[versed pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/more-kirsten-dunst-interview-with-the-vampire-claudia-gif-4808387

[kindred crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/more-funny-kid-beach-cute-gif-15522724

[umbral heron]

https://tenor.com/view/smg4-kirby-more-i-want-more-give-me-more-gif-26345920

[keen tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/more-is-better-henry-the-six-more-please-add-more-gif-25128698

[dapper merlin]

Well with the ram on android devices the backend uses the same ram since theres no g-ram so with winlator running and the os your 16 becomes 13 just from running it, so for winlator use 24 has its applications for heavy emulation you can get a true 16 or up

And with the 8 elite there wont be bottlenecks on 24g because the soc supports up to 24g of ram from the Qualcomm page