AYN Odin 3

[tame saddle]

I always get the bundle anyway to cover bases

I'd want to rock this in soft pouch in bag pocket on go. But it's nice to have a case that fits grips for travel

[quaint dust]

Would rather get a free screen protector TBH but I'll take a free TPU case

[umbral heron]

The extra option: no free stuff bc you're not preordering 🗿

Ok but forreal though, it's nice that they're giving free stuff with the pre-orders, but I only would really care to have the screen protector and the gripless case

[tame saddle]

Pretty sure it comes with a screen protector. That's a given at this point

Maybe I'm wrong tho. I can't remember portal

[gilded edge]

I will send it to California

[quaint dust]

I'll take any freebies

I forget if the O2 did

[clever halo]

So this been in development for a bit damn

[clever halo]

That's... not even bad

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Think it's pretty close to what they usually charge

Ugh. I can't decide between base and max. What are the chances I want to play switch or mess with winlator on this...

Already having a switch 2 and steamdeck

[ripe stirrup]

Hmm, so they remove the tpu shell from the bundle. Original post not edited yet though

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Just threw it in for free

[tidal oak]

Zero

[languid phoenix]

You can check details for switch/PC games here https://youtube.com/@bitofgaming23 or https://youtube.com/@techzonekid but from what I've seen switch is 12gb, PC maybe more?

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Thinking base might be the way to go

[cloud coral]

If you get the base model
How viable is it to use that virtual memory feature on android that's using the internal storage as "extra ram"?

[fathom oyster]

Do not rely on a feature like that

It’s more of a gimmick than it is something genuinely useful

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Pretty sure it's pretty slow access

Might cause more headaches then solve problems

[gaunt narwhal]

Virtual memory is a way to get things to technically run, but it pushes the bottleneck to the slow memory. Very fast internal storage is still far slower than ram. You could be talking 100x slowdowns. It’s probably not a good way to solve ram limitations when you care even a little about frame rates.

[main dock]

the konkr press is not going so well....

roughly $360 USD?

no thanks. ill take oled

surprise

roughl;y $335 USD for their elite

changed it again

$290USD for elite

[robust chasm]

why does arthur do this

the fake out price trick wasn’t funny before

[main dock]

so basically they matched odin 3

[robust chasm]

and is not funny now, it just causes confusion

[main dock]

ill still take the oled

[subtle zenith]

they had to go down .. thx to ayn

they ahd no choice with LCD

[main dock]

its not low enough to make people switch

[subtle zenith]

well people can be dumb and dont noticed the lcd vs oled

[cloud coral]

Only in china right?
I don't think those prices will stay the same on the igg

[errant sable]

Usd

[main dock]

oh no mention of igg price?

[main dock]

for g3?

[errant sable]

Yea so probably like 280 for eb on elite i think idk i only want the g3

[cloud coral]

I was asking
Since they usually do a lower price for china vs when they release it worldwide

[errant sable]

Ngl this translator is hurting me lol

[cloud coral]

Yeah
It sounds more like somebody reacting to what he's saying not actually translating:))

[main dock]

translator? what are you guys watching

[errant sable]

Youtube

[wary matrix]

they sell unlimited amounts for 48hours at super early bird tho

[errant sable]

Another price drop

Brother please

[wary matrix]

24gb or bust

[cloud coral]

About 240 starting for g3

[main dock]

great price. but im still not sold on lcd

[cloud coral]

Enough ram to emulate windows that emulates android

[cloud coral]

Yeah again
I think they usually have higher prices on the igg campaign vs the chinese price

[wary matrix]

man, I may grab a KONKR Pocket Fit 12+256 at that price point

[subtle zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/mess-simpsons-disorganized-disheveled-gif-16927115261978793562

[wary matrix]

G3 Gen3 is a great chip and that price is pretty good

also trigger locks

[cloud coral]

280 starting for 8 elite

[subtle zenith]

i ahve trigger lock on few gamepads

[main dock]

$280USD elite konkr

[subtle zenith]

never acrually used it

[main dock]

id rather pay another $20 for oled?

[subtle zenith]

imo -20$ is not enough for lcd

but if one needs trigger locks 😄

[fast sable]

Plus the import fees half of us would get as they dont do 4px

[cloud coral]

And I think ayn is also better at long time support

[robust chasm]

I’d rather pay 20 for bigger sticks and the select/start on the right

[cloud coral]

Ayaneo will launch a device and then immediately abandon it to focus on the next one

[robust chasm]

announce another one before it starts shipping

[main dock]

ayn cvould still surprise at the preorder launch

[fast sable]

They announced more devices since announcing this so yeah 🤣

[subtle zenith]

did they shipped air 2 yet?

[cloud coral]

If they could match that 280 price that would be bonkers

[main dock]

yeah, but i doubt it

[ripe stirrup]

Nicole seems to be hinting at super fan perks

But that's usually quite limited units maybe a few hundreds

[cloud coral]

Yeah
It would be Jingle All the Way type of situation if you're trying to get that

[main dock]

https://tenor.com/view/jingle-all-the-way-1996-movie-huh-toy-store-gif-23784108

for $42USD id risk it and go elite, imo

over g3

#1399437549864222941 message

g3 configs

elite configs

[wary matrix]

oh they upped to 24+1tb

I think I will grab a 12+256 Pocket Fit G3 Gen3 just because

[main dock]

great price

i got my 16/512 dmg for 300 usd

used

[subtle zenith]

i mean they changed the prices fo all this like 5 times during the whole stream while raninting about competition 😄

[main dock]

it was super irritating imo....

[dark sundial]

I stopped watching the Ayaneo live streams

Dragging something can be done in a few slides into hours of streaming

[main dock]

no joking, it was pitiful

[torn saffron]

Software makes up the difference for me, atleast if the lcd is as good as aya usually uses.

[torn saffron]

Not even close. Odin 2 lost software support after a couple months my 2+ year old aya devices are still getting software support.

Ayn fixes the biggest bugs then dips, even if theres still some major ones left behind. Like being unable to access wifi sign in pages without manually navigating to the domain.

[fast sable]

The Odin 2 was getting updates last month....

[torn saffron]

Was it. I know there was a major gap for a long time with them.

[fringe frigate]

Unless you have a dual screen device, I'm genuinely confused about why you need software for Android. Don't you just set up the emulators and then run a front end? What else do you need?

[torn saffron]

Mine didnt get one for 4 months until i sold it to my friend and he still hasnt gotten an update.

[urban grail]

the dickriding contest is always great entertainment 😄

[fast sable]

I dont get it either tbh. If the device is working and you can play all of your games, exactly what are you wanting.

[gusty river]

I can’t compare the two but I can say I’ve never had any sort of software issue with my O2

[torn saffron]

Its very nice to have quick access to various handheld functions

[fringe frigate]

Come on now man, the tribalism is the fun part 😂

[torn saffron]

Its just too minimal, it doesnt add anything to the device, but aya has a ton of features that actually improve the usage of the device.

[fast sable]

I can access the performance modes, change the trigger and button types and pretty much everything you would need from one drop down menu or the floating menu. What would I be missing?

[urban grail]

when people get too tribal it's just pathetic 😄 but you're right, it's fun to watch

[torn saffron]

Its just a lot more complete, everything is accessible with the built in controls, along with a very good performance overlay, great built in remapper, and a lot of control over fan curves, performance levels, gyro conversion, sound tap, equalizer, brightness, and all the handheld specific functions.

Navigating menus with a touchscreen on a handheld sucks.

[fast sable]

So really the only difference is being able to use controls

[torn saffron]

Along with the other features that have either no alternative on android, require root or are severely limited in comparison.

[fast sable]

Considering how much some people put AYA on a pedestal for their software, I dont see anything here that would warrant it 🤷

[subtle zenith]

yeah i experience aya software once
'and returned the device second day how it annoyed me)

[torn saffron]

To me it was immidiately apparent how little ayn tried with their software as soon as i got my pocket s, and ayas software then is nowhere close to their software today. Not only have they fixed nearly all the bugs with it, but it still receives feature updates with every new device.

The remapping feature especiialy is great becuase it lets you map android functions to "hold button" freeing up those buttons for hotkeys in emulators. Or just remove them entirely for 2 hotkeys attached to the extra buttons.

The default home screen is also fantastic if you value customization and having it feel like a proper console.

[subtle zenith]

but hey everything hsa their fans and uses i guess

[runic ferry]

I will wait for oled. I just cancelled my pocket s2 due to delays. Ace handhelds still not fulfilled. I have lost faith in aya neo currently. I might be willing to put some money down on the pocket mini. But 🫠

[subtle zenith]

damn their shipping is that much of a mess? ... makes me worried for my flip 1s 8840u

[runic ferry]

Im sure will be fine. Sounds like they have caught up a bit. But i think i have more faith in ayn currently

[subtle zenith]

i do remember my Odin2 shipping was quite a mess too ... back then .. i guess will see with thor next month

[wary matrix]

I mean, the ACE certainly got stuck for some reason or another, but the Pocket S2 was just like 2 weeks without movement and now they send out quite a big batch

[torn saffron]

Also they just announced that international buyers of the pocket s2 are going to get a $50 store credit and a pocket air mini.

[subtle zenith]

lol

[torn saffron]

Shit their about to riot when they find out how much we overcharged the first time

[urban grail]

huh

[fathom oyster]

With snapdragons gaming chip line like the g3 gen 3 and g2 gen 2 how does that fare with emulation where drivers matter? Is it in the same boat as the 8 elite due to how new it is?

[torn saffron]

Much closer to the 8 gen 2 and 8 gen 3.

[fathom oyster]

Do they need custom drivers then?

They work straight out the box?

[torn saffron]

Atleast as far as emulation is concerned.

Might see different games broken from driver to driver but nearly everything that can play on one can be done om the other if you try out a few different drivers.

[subtle zenith]

they have kinda achieved the final levels of ewaste and overseas hoarders when they give out other device foe delay

[torn saffron]

Yeah youll need turnip.

But for awhile each update would break a game here and ther then get fixed later, atleast as far as ive noticed.

Same goes for the 8 gen 2

[wary matrix]

leave me alone, I paid for the Air Mini already with my Pocket S2 contribution

[torn saffron]

We dont know about the g2 gen 2 yet, it hasnt been in any device so we wont know until we get our hands on it if itll be an easy fix like the g3 series was

[wary matrix]

g2 gen2 should play in the same ballpark as the d8300

[torn saffron]

Well if turnip works itll be great, major improvement over the 865. We just dont know yet.

For the g3x gen 2 and g3 gen 3 they just modified the 8 gen 2 and 8 gen 3 gpus so there was a fairly simple fix for compatibility.

But no one has been able to look at the g2 gen 2 yet, hopefully itll be simple.

[fathom oyster]

Ahh

So g3 gen 3 is an overlocked 8g3 essentially?

[clever halo]

.... what happened here wtf.

[fathom oyster]

Heard they let those line of chips be able to achieve higher tdp because they were expected to be used with active cooling unlike the 8 elite for example

Up to 25w which is kinda crazy

[clever halo]

Black or Clear Blue for me

[umbral heron]

Might be a render thing, but is it just me or is the front of the clear blue and purple models like a more solid color?
Very interesting if so.
I’m assuming it’s just more opaque than the back

[clever halo]

It's the fronts

[umbral heron]

Well yeah, I said that.
Just a bit confused if the fronts are also transparent or not

[clever halo]

Sorry, just got woken up. What I was trying to say was the fronts are completely soild from the rest of the body. I think that is intentional

[umbral heron]

That’s genuinely pretty awesome honestly.
I don’t think I’ve seen clear handhelds really do that in this hobby before.
The front (the top outline and controls) of my Anbernic SP is completely transparent

[runic ferry]

Thats all fine and good. But surely thats just increasing the import tax on that package 😅

[umbral heron]

And I believe the RP4 clear models also were transparent on the front, right?

Were the Odin 2 clear models also a solid color on the front? Don’t recall even with Blop posting the clear blue a thousand times during the poll

[clever halo]

Wait fr? Bro what did they expect, AYN and others to just not fight back?

[subtle zenith]

it is ... cause its glass panel i guess

[umbral heron]

Didn’t think I’d enjoy the mix of solid and transparent so much, but it genuinely looks so nice imo

Love it

Personally keeping the clear blue back shell, but if it’s at all easy to change the back shell, I wonder if you could technically do solid color for the whole thing for people who want solid blue or purple 👀

[clever halo]

It kinda reminds me of those candies that are solid colored at first, but become more transparent as they go

[short gust]

hm, oled tax just 30$ ... not ideal but okey seems like

i thought konkr elite will start on 260$

early-price week that was cool

[thorn wedge]

Wish there were review units before the early bird pricing runs for O3 and Konkr.

[short gust]

should be

on bilibli at least

[thorn wedge]

Hope so.

[wary matrix]

you can always just cancel after reviews come out

[short gust]

40$ tax on elite also disappoint

should be higher to make G3 more interesting

[wary matrix]

I mean a $239 G3 Gen3 is insane value for anyone who was looking at stuff like the Retroids

[fringe frigate]

Definitely for sure but we know the rp6 is coming and it's going to be probably G2 Gen 2 with OLED for probably a similar price or less

But you're not getting some of the Aya features

[wary matrix]

has to come in at $209 at worst or else it's dead

[short gust]

on other side yes, 8/128 for retro stuff on maximum enough

[wary matrix]

I mean you can basically do all console emulation with 8/128... the few Switch games that like more RAM aside, you basically only go for a higher SKU to get more internal

so 8/128 and 12/256 models are already plenty for those who aren't going to mess with Winlator, both priced fairly well, from RP5 to Odin 2

not that you couldn't do a lot of winlator on the 12/256 model already

at least for older and indie games

[clever halo]

But that only for a week tho

[short gust]

only?

WEEK

that allot for early

[wary matrix]

super early

[short gust]

i always 48h

[wary matrix]

early bird will last way longer with AYA

[short gust]

somtimes 24h

somtimes 500 copy

and less

only bruh

[wary matrix]

honestly everyone in want to buy who is looking for a $200-300 device should be redirect to their IGG now for a week

[umbral heron]

The big thing here is that the retail pricing isn’t ludicrously more than the early bird like it normally is for Ayaneo

[worldly sail]

Yeah, already got 12/256 (with plans to upgrade to 16/512 or 16/1tb) because holy shit those are insanely good prices for the G3 Gen 3. Prop’s to AYANEO for figuring that out.

[umbral heron]

Don’t they charge like 100$+ more for retail than early bird normally?

[wary matrix]

true true

[short gust]

we need somone else to beat them in price ...

[clever halo]

Like yeah 299 for the G3 gen 3 at retail isn't bad at all

[worldly sail]

Still would rather get O3 if I was gonna get 8 Elite, but given there is no G3 Gen 3 equivalent for Odin 3, I’d rather get that from AYANEO.

[short gust]

Pocket 6 230$ boom (not early)

[wary matrix]

too expensive for a G2 Gen2

make it $199 tops

[short gust]

yeah 200 should be early

it has good oled panel so it fair price

[umbral heron]

$329 for the Elite model retail is a great deal too.
If you absolutely don’t care/need to have OLED, it’s the cheapest way to get an Elite

[short gust]

wonder how next year will end

[umbral heron]

I personally like OLED too much to not want to get O3 over it, but Pocket Fit Elite is surprisingly competitive

[short gust]

interesting how good usb-c port they use

[fringe frigate]

I think that Ayn knew this product was going to be competitive and kept their secret weapon secret until the last moment (custom panel) it's pretty much the main reason why people will choose it

[short gust]

if not cheap, it will be possible to use next gen usb flash drives

and 8-128 shouldnt be a problem at all

[wary matrix]

it's a 10gbps 3.2 port

[short gust]

are u sure?>

[wary matrix]

look at the data sheet

[clever halo]

Hmm it's not like a drastic difference betwen retail prices

[short gust]

dont see

[umbral heron]

Which is extremely unusual yet great for Ayaneo

That’s one thing Aya often gets clowned on for is the early bird vs retail pricing

[short gust]

if realy 3.2 u can buy that (usb flash drive)

[wary matrix]

may have confused something here, the KONKR is 3.2
Odin 3 is 3.1

[short gust]

yikes ... Arthur moment

hm, that small detail can mean a lot (probably its not only that on better/max lvl)

maybe Konkr better device, but without oled 🤔 need to wait reviews (pros/cons)

[gusty river]

I’m torn between the pro and the max. I was going to go max but I just don’t see myself needing that much Ram I really don’t plan on doing winlater I would just stream something from my PC or use my steam deck. Seems like all android gaming 12 is plenty.

[umbral heron]

If you think you might be upgrading to an O4 or the like later down the road, Pro should be fine yeah

It’s very likely I’m keeping my O3 for many years, so Max is worth it for me

Do I know yet what I’ll be using the 16gb ram for? No. But it’ll be nice for me to have it if it ends up being relevant at all

Apparently, Winlator does well even on 12gb

[slender notch]

16gb isnt crazy so makes sense. Maybe you won't use it but it's not like it costs crazy more then 12gb. Added storage is nice too.

[gusty river]

Yea I weighed that in too but when it comes down to the tariff issues that’s what really makes me think do I need to be spending the extra money to pay a tariff on that I don’t need

[tame saddle]

Yeah. It's really like. Do I want to downgrade for trigger locks... Hmmm

[errant sable]

Def not

[clever halo]

Not really imho

[runic ferry]

Oled ftw

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Think o3 is the winner. Might just stay Thor comfy

With a switch 2 and x86 handhelds might just splurge for the base. Would basically become my retro emulator handheld til driver unlocks and ram optimization

[runic ferry]

My plan is LeGo 2 and O3 if i can afford it. Should cover everything for me

Oled goodness

[kindred crypt]

this is actually pretty good for Ayaneo

$270 for an 8 Elite is wild

buuuuut LCD

$240 for a gen 3 is also pretty bananas

but no OLED > everything else

[ripe stirrup]

i hope the igg page would be able to function normally this time round...

[tame saddle]

Lego2 just so damn expensive. X86 handhelds out of control

[kindred crypt]

so super fan confirmed

I guess we are breaking IGG again

[kindred crypt]

and heavy, for me a 1kg handheld is a no go

[gusty river]

That page is going down for sure

[wary matrix]

I don't want to wake up at 3:30am

[kindred crypt]

call in sick on Monday

[wary matrix]

I strongly considered that already

[quaint dust]

Who would ever of thought that AyaNeo would have better prices for a Elite model than AYN , sure no OLED but that's besides the point

Any chance we see a O3 pricecut to match ?

[short gust]

with coupons yes, possible

Konkr get better price, but trade screen (30$)

i feel it better device at all, but need to wait detail reviews, at least on bilibili

[tame saddle]

They're pretty comparable but we're now at the point where performance has outdone emulation. Feel like the real draw is winlator etc and features and oled for me is worth the price bump over trigger stops

[quaint dust]

You think the Konkr or O3 is better ?
I actually like both but prefer the Fit design wise

[short gust]

Aya

Arhur is obsessed with premium and all the best, he can trade screen and make everything else better

i will do the same probably, couse good oled margin too much and u should cut other things

[quaint dust]

Even the Ips screens AyaNeo uses are usually very very good

[short gust]

yup, always high-end panels

even micro has excellent screen

[swift nacelle]

IPS could have worked better if it was 1440p

[leaden hollow]

Damn g3 gen 3 price is pretty crazy

[short gust]

agree

[worldly sail]

Dude, they’re offering G3 Gen 3 (aka, effectively overclocked 8 Gen 3) handhelds for literally around the same price range as Anbernic and Retroid (Super EB for base Pocket Fit is $240). And even without any Early Bird it’s still $300 (same price as Odin 2 LCD).

[leaden hollow]

Seriously, this has got to be the most competitive Ayaneo has ever been

[tame saddle]

Yeah. G3gen3 makes way more sense then elite for konkr

[leaden hollow]

I almost feel bad

[short gust]

that all what we know?

or detail specs out already

[worldly sail]

Details are in their Indiegogo page.

[tame saddle]

Campaign is out so it's all there

[errant sable]

Check the konkr channel

[short gust]

link

[worldly sail]

In the Konkr Channel, check the pins.

[short gust]

oh

[quaint dust]

I know , it’s a crazy good deal especially coming from AYANeo , it basically costs just a bit more than RP5

[errant sable]

For double the performance

Hopefully retroid makes the rp6 better

[swift nacelle]

Retroid should just focus on 4:3 devices from now on

[errant sable]

I would like them to go back to not using glass

Rp4 and rp2s my favorite designs from them

[short gust]

wait a munute, odin3 hall triggers and joystick or not?

[errant sable]

I would say classic too but I dont own one yet

Yea o3 hall

[short gust]

🤔 what they downgrade then

i miss something pretty sure

[trim panther]

What’s the consensus on 8gb model? Is 12+ kinda needed to complement the elite?

[short gust]

8gb for switch (almost full) and below

some x86 stuff

[tame saddle]

In the end we always overbuy ram. Storage is probably the more important factor. And I tend to microsd anyway

[short gust]

u know how much cost top tier micro sd?

its more than overpay for more space variant

[wary matrix]

I honestly wouldn't buy an Elite with 8gb RAM, with that amount there just is no point, as the G3 Gen3 can handle everything you can do with that SKU already

12/256 should honestly have been the base model on the Elite handhelds, as RAM just limits the SoCs capabilities and internal storage at 128gb is just too dinky to even bother with anything... while Micro SD is too slow, wish we would get a Micro SD Express card slot on the Odin 3

[main dock]

I would save the internal storage for modern/winlator stuff, micro sd card for retro stuff

[errant sable]

https://tenor.com/view/sniff-gif-16098587381167427931

[tame saddle]

I never said I was buying them. I already have them. Pro spec arguer

[short gust]

i didnt say u buying them 😄

[tame saddle]

But you were using price as an argument why buying higher internal storage is the better deal. But using a microsd over several handhelds and the value over time is lower

[short gust]

fair

[worldly lantern]

Based on renders, which (O3 vs KF) would have better hand ergonomics? Without a grip case on my Portal I get wrist cramps using it.

[wary matrix]

both should have more pronounced grips, but the Odin 3 also offers a grip for $15 iirc

[tame saddle]

Both probably comfy. But until 3d prints come along your stuck with however konkr feels

[worldly lantern]

Thanks, good point. The Aya accessories seem to already cover any shortcomings. Much more convenient.

[main dock]

Will Ayn have a nice surprise tomorrow?

[wary matrix]

I hope for some super fan bullshit

death and carnage to save $20

[runic ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-a-buck-money-cheap-auction-gif-18053924

Super fan price

[main dock]

Biggest surprise they can do is….. B.DUCK ODIN3

[swift nacelle]

Probably a price drop, maybe about 20-30 bucks

[leaden hollow]

Metallic red colorway

[main dock]

Evangelion red?

Evangelion purple?

[short gust]

coupon

bet

[main dock]

Nah it’s gotta be B.duck graffiti

[leaden hollow]

G3 gen 3 odin 3 for $200

[wary matrix]

would be fun if they undercut AYA by $10 with their Super Fan offerings

[swift nacelle]

Nah, aya will reign supreme

[wary matrix]

hey, I'm peaceful for now, as I get a Free Air Mini (hopefully without issues)

[swift nacelle]

That’s a big ask

[main dock]

How is AYN’s software compared to Ayaneo’s ayaspace?

[novel panther]

I was just looking through the Portal chat back at launch and I think the Super Fan was $10 off, on the Base model anyway. Maybe it was a bigger discount on higher models. Still, $10 off is still better than nothing

[wary matrix]

if I wake up at 3:30am to find a $10 super fan offer, I'm going to be so mad

[short gust]

20-30$ real

[novel panther]

You'll have a lovely low order ID too!

Get your package a day or two earlier than you would have otherwise lol

[ripe stirrup]

How about finding a 30-40 discount, but the igg keep hanging/showing blank page during payment and all units claimed in less than 20 minutes

Or thinking your order went through but your bank reject/auto cancel it slightly later after you go back to sleep, freeing up the limited perk for others

[wary matrix]

dude no

[swift nacelle]

That just means you‘re not a super fan

[wary matrix]

I just want $50 off for the Ultra, is that too much to ask

[quaint dust]

Supposedly AYN is working on a new control center with the Thor but on the O2 it was not great which just had the basics , no power management or fan control or anything.
I would say AYANeo wind easily

[swift nacelle]

Ultra tends to get the highest discounts, so maybe it’ll be worthwhile

[fast sable]

Why would you need power management? Outside of the performance profiles? The Portal has a custom fan setting as well.

[leaden hollow]

I think the better question is why wouldn't you want the option

[main dock]

ah that would be missed greatly. i frequently use that stuff on the dmg

[fast sable]

No the question is why because I dont know what purpose it serves. On x86 devices sure but on android what benefit is there?

[quaint dust]

I’m just saying the AyaNeo control center is more robust and has much more customization

[leaden hollow]

Well at least on the g3x gen 2 you can eke out more performance from the gpu without overheating it

But again why wouldn't you want the option

[fast sable]

So its a max performance mode?

[leaden hollow]

No

[fast sable]

Im not saying the option is bad. Im trying to establish what purpose it serves

[errant sable]

better fan curves is the important feature for me

[leaden hollow]

The max performance mode sets the gpu frequency to its highest at 1000, gaming mode Sets it to around 660, but around 800 is the best balance between performance and stability

[short gust]

8gen2 not overheating also, stability 100% with odin2

[fast sable]

So what does the power management do? Let you go over 1000?

[leaden hollow]

No 1000 is the max mode

[errant sable]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-its-over9000-dbz-dragon-ball-z-gif-22240874

[fast sable]

So what does it do then 🤣

[leaden hollow]

I just explained it

[fast sable]

You explained 3 modes?

So thats it?

[ripe stirrup]

there should be a mode that goes up to highest (e.g 1000) when its needed and auto downclock to low values when its not, which is what ayn did for the odin2 's governor/profiles. that is why we are saying it is unnecessary (if they get the governors working properly)

[fast sable]

Yeah the system should be able to do it automatically really

This is why im so confused

[leaden hollow]

Gaming mode sets it 650, the next step up is max mode, which sets it to 1000 and all cores to max, but you can set the gpu frequency to around 800 to get better performance without pushing the cooling too hard.

There's five preset modes

[runic ferry]

Ayaspace is nice. But i find its very clunky. Had it crash multiple times on my evo. It also causes so odd issues with other launchers. I have some launchers that refuse to go into landscape mode unless I revert back to Ayaspace. ayn will just be stock android

[worldly sail]

Let’s you customize them so that you can make Battery Saving Mode use enough power to be a “low end no cooling mode”, and to make Balance into the performance mode.

[main dock]

i love the layout/aesthetic of their grid

and i really like their side control centre

[worldly sail]

Or to make Battery Saving mode literally just minimum for sleep mode, and having balanced mode be the default needed for most systems.

[runic ferry]

Very feature rich. But yeah i personally have issues with it

[leaden hollow]

It also does that, but you have the option to lock it to whatever frequency you set

[worldly sail]

And by doing so, also adjusting the streaming mode to essentially be a “performance mode”.

[fast sable]

If it does it automatically why would you need to lock it?

Its not making much sense

[leaden hollow]

Because performance modes aren't guaranteed to get you the best performance in every single situation

[runic ferry]

I tend to just have emulationstation open from get go. So i dont have to use ayaspace tbh

[ripe stirrup]

yes, i saw those functions. and it was often used by people at the start of the launch of the g3x gen 2. because the device was getting worse than odin 2 fps in android games because the auto management/governor for the gpu is crap. think it got fixed later

[worldly sail]

Basically, the benefit is in of itself the ability to take what the Odin already has, and customize them further to your own liking instead of being stuck with only what the company set as the defaults (also helps that there’s a reset to just immediately set them back to default, so it’s not like it’ll be much hassle to change them back to normal if you don’t end up liking what you did).

[main dock]

did you set it up as your home?

[runic ferry]

Yeah

Still get odd issues though but less than other launchers

Thankfully es just acts as an app rather than taking over everthing

[fast sable]

Sounds more like a failing with AYA or the chip that this isnt managed automatically by the device so this is a 'fix' for it

[worldly sail]

Especially since this lets users freely set what fan speed they want for each performance mode, instead of being stuck with “only quiet for normal mode” as an example.

[worldly sail]

Except last I checked the actual performance overlays, it already does that automatically, you’re essentially setting the max to what you like.

[fast sable]

I dont see the point 🤷 as I've never had to worry about that on the Odin devices but I guess if people need it

[runic ferry]

I will be very curious to hear sound samples from konkr. I am yet to own an ayaneo product with decent speakers

[main dock]

https://ayaneo.com/product/AYASpace-2.html

[fast sable]

It has a few performance modes that work fine and multiple fan options

[ripe stirrup]

I think they are necessary when the g3x gen 2 launch, i definitely hope such fine tune controls are just a bonus but not a necessity for the g3 gen 3 or their elite devices and they get the governors working properly.
stuff like this really should not need to bother android users.

[errant sable]

just watch any pocket s2 video

[main dock]

nvm that looks like the ayaspace for x86

[errant sable]

its going to be the same

same chip

better cooling

[worldly sail]

The point is mainly just the fact that “having defaults that work is nice, but being able to adjust them to your liking is also nice and only acts as a net plus, you’re not really sacrificing anything by having it”.

[main dock]

i like the quick access to controller tweaks

[worldly sail]

Yup, while I know they were an issue when the first handheld with the chip was released, I can at least say that they seem to work properly nowadays.

[main dock]

i was thinking of rooting my dmg this weekend. not just for the performance, but so i can transfer my hard corps uprising save file to this lol

[worldly sail]

I think the thing I really like is the ability to use any of the fan speed profiles with all performance modes. Being stuck with only Auto and Sport for High Performance mode on Odin 2 sucks (and the same with Quiet or off being the only options for Standard mode), I’d prefer having the ability to use the other fan settings as an option you know?

[main dock]

for some reason the flip2 had no qualms with me uploading files to the internal android directory, but i cant do so on the dmg?

[gilded edge]

Only android 15 on O3

#F

[runic ferry]

They probs dont even have a road map for updates on the o3 yet. But to be fair. I dont think any handheld I have ever bought has had a major android update. Only security updates

[slender notch]

Only? 15 is fine.

[runic ferry]

But 15 is fine tbh. Still good for quite a few years apps wise

[gilded edge]

Android 16 brings a big overhaul on the desktop mode

And I kinda wanted that

The 8 elite is stronger thank my current desktop cpu

[slender notch]

I barely got android 16 and I'm on a pixel. Ita not happening anytime soon for these random handhelds.

[gilded edge]

The konkr elite will have android 16

[toxic brook]

Yeah, it's shipping on the Konkr.
Don't cut companies any slack on this kind of stuff.

[runic ferry]

But will konkr enable the desktop mode 🤷🏻‍♂️ might be omitted

[gilded edge]

I think if enough people ask they will

[errant sable]

Just ping Arthur in the konkr channel and wait for a response

[runic ferry]

Hmmm some cheap chinese tabs have android 16 and dont have the desktop mode enabled. So i would confirm with their support email

[gilded edge]

Here in this discord?

[errant sable]

No the ayaneo discodd

Discord

[runic ferry]

Ayaneos dont run stock android. Its customised with ayaspace on top. So they may not have developed the desktop mode at all or just disabled it (if it conflicts with ayaspace). So worth checking

[gilded edge]

True

[clever halo]

But its not proper 16, but a modified 16 that likely won't have all the stuff proper 16 has. It's why tbh, 15 is fine for what most people want

Most of these handhelds don't run stock android. They usually run modified, debloated versions that removed features that most users won't use

[runic ferry]

It only really matters when developers drop support for android versions. Even 13 is still fine

I’m still using Android 10 on a couple devices

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Android versions have never been a concern for me. As long as it's a version emulators still support

[gilded edge]

If neither of them have desktop mode then I will probably go with the one that will ship before end of the year

[tame saddle]

Like efficiencies past 13 are almost insignificant

To be fair I barely notice on my phone anymore

Im like, ok cool, this one makes a new wiggle motion when clearing stuff. That's great

[runic ferry]

G3G3 Konkr oct Odin 3 nov Elite Konkr Dec

[cyan ledge]

I literally tried using devices on android 11 before and everything was working without issues.

[runic ferry]

If everything is on track

[cyan ledge]

15 is more than enough

[gilded edge]

Odin3 it's then. Thx. Now to decide the color

[gilded edge]

My gpd XP+ is on A11 and it's totally fine

[tame saddle]

Yeah. It's been a while since major android changes

Maybe since the last dessert version which was 9 I think

[errant sable]

What was it ice cream or gumdrop or something

[tame saddle]

Pie was the last, 8 was oreo

[cyan ledge]

Like the brand oreo?

[slender notch]

What else would it be? Lol

[strange fulcrum]

Meeee. It's gonna be figure proof with all that ram, specially for PC and PS3 emu

[leaden hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[cyan ledge]

Idk, It's just strange for a company to name something after another company

[strange fulcrum]

I'm super excited about that 8000 mah battery. I have the flip2 and wishing battery lasted longer. With the 8000 mah and efficient elite processor, it's going to last twice as long

[main dock]

does winlator run teknoparrot?

[short gust]

https://youtu.be/pIOLkldNJNo?si=1XkVYPuYjf7eXNZe

[dapper merlin]

Mee winlator is gonna be killer

[short gust]

wish on Elite 2 will be better drivers ...

[dapper merlin]

Drivers will come 🤷‍♂️

[main dock]

https://tenor.com/view/excited-dream-build-gif-21262829

[subtle zenith]

Just in time for Odin 4

[tame saddle]

I mean you joke but...

Hard to say when they'll get it unlocked. Id say 6 months at the earliest

[gusty river]

Just in time for O3 Portal 😈

[tame saddle]

Yeah. By portal for sure

Especially if they do mini first

[subtle zenith]

Imagine O3 portal with the Legion Go 2 oled

[tame saddle]

Think it's more like we get a 7 or at most 8 inch device

[fringe frigate]

I really don't need this thing but I'm considering impulse buying, this is very unlike me

We've hit a point of diminishing returns. Let's say there's an Odin 4 in like two or three years, and it's using a two generation newer chip, so what? It won't be able to do anything new most likely. And now we finally have an OLED panel at this size, so the only other improvement they could do is maybe a slightly bigger battery.

We end game boys

Normally I would hold off for reviews and for the price to come down but for these Android handhelds the best value time to buy them is actually at release, it's very backwards

At the same time though I feel like a bit of an idiot buying a Snapdragon 8 Elite to play Super Nintendo games

😔

At least when I'm playing Ren and Stimpy, it'll look really nice

[hushed marlin]

Is why i bought the portal
Knowing it was a software wait vs hardware getting better

Stuff of this level getting cheaper is great all around tho

[fringe frigate]

Yeah definitely if switch compatibility is more important to you right now it's a better buy. I don't mind waiting for driver compatibility though, I'd rather have a bit more performance for more coverage on PS3 emulation when it comes. Hoping it would be enough juice.

Then again that's also silly, just buy the Odin 4

[wary matrix]

we will probably see devices at SD8g2 level in a few years for $150, good times

I honestly could see MagicX doing a SD8g2 handheld for $200 flat at this point

[umbral heron]

Maybe it's because I'm like that less than 1% guy who will keep devices for over 7 years, but I would genuinely keep the O3 for around 5-7 years, maybe longer if 8 Elite is still somehow good enough for me by then x3

I'm still not buying this until next year until I see reviews and how support for it will develop, but when I inevitably do buy it, it is staying with me a long time

[fringe frigate]

I would probably keep this thing until the battery dies whenever that comes

I would use it as an excuse to get a new one

Because of the super early bird savings though, for me it's either buy now or never which is definitely their intended effect

Either buy this thing now or wait for the next Odin 4

Which we can probably assume will be in like 2 years and probably similar specs but it will be using the 8 elite 2 or 3

[umbral heron]

I'm curious if they'd do refurbished Odin 3 later down the road like they are rn with Odin 2

Could see this thing being a steal pricing wise later

[fringe frigate]

Although we're kind of at the power point where I'm starting to want 1440p

I need to see the pores and every pixel on Mario's mustache in Mario 64

[umbral heron]

Portal isn't for me really, but I still genuinely think O3P should have 1440p

[wary matrix]

Odin 3 Portal 7" 1440p 120hz OLED

also trigger locks and a 2tb internal option

[fringe frigate]

Bro if I bought an Odin 3 and they announced that within a year I would literally crash out

[wary matrix]

nah, you will just buy it like the rest of us

for now enjoy your baby Portal

[umbral heron]

Me, who wants the O3 a lot because it's a smaller Portal esque handheld

https://tenor.com/view/pyra-tea-xenoblade-chronicles2-gif-26108353

[fringe frigate]

I would prefer a 7-in screen but I don't consider 6 inch to be a deal breaker, I think both sizes are good

1440p though

[umbral heron]

It's a nice goldielocks kind of size imo

[wary matrix]

the Odin 3 has the perfect comfort size for me tbh, dunno if I will like the grips, so a flat back shell as a option would be great, but the high is in the range I consider ideal

[umbral heron]

It's a bit weird for me as I was gonna get the Thor as well at some point, but I could simply use the Thor purely for DS and 3DS

Would replace my New 2DS which is starting to show its age

[wary matrix]

I have the THOR and KONKR on order, while my Pocket S2 finally shipped today

[umbral heron]

Oh, almost forgot about Wii U as well, but I can't really think of many games from that system besides Wind Waker HD I'd wanna play.
Most Wii U games I'd play have already been ported to Switch

[gusty river]

I feel like it would be fiscally responsible to wait for the portal depending on preference hah

[fringe frigate]

Hey if we were fiscally responsible we wouldn't be here

[gusty river]

That is a fair point

But maybe we can change 😅

[wary matrix]

just buy whatever, it's just paper

[fringe frigate]

Money isn't real, only gold

[dapper merlin]

Theres gonna be a surplus of these chips out there after this even with all the elites in phones so I mean definitely sooner then that

And I dont play switch that much anyways more so winlator

[subtle zenith]

I have multiple window handhelds so .. so inlator sounds like ultimate hassle for something I can do easier elsewhere

[dapper merlin]

Windows devices are to big and the battery is kinda bad but I like my winlator haha

[subtle zenith]

to each their own poison I guess

I only ever tried winlator trying to get pico8 working property... a d the experience was so had I would rather lie on broken glass

[dapper merlin]

Yeah its a learning curve since theyre containers but with the right version of winlator ite pretty nice,

[gusty river]

Yeah when you have a windows device and a good gaming PC winlator just sounds unnecessary but it is a cool concept especially for those that don’t have the setup I mentioned. But this is why I’m starting to lean towards waiting for the O3 Portal.

[subtle zenith]

i mean i just upgraded from O2 to O2P+THor 😄

meanwhile the original plan was O3 😄

[gusty river]

Is that still the plan or are you holding off?

[wheat dune]

Can someone make a screenshot comparison of Odin3 versus RP5 ? So U can check sizes?

[gusty river]

https://retrocatalog.com/compare/ayn-odin-3/retroid-pocket-5

[main dock]

this will be a common comparison. we should pin this lol

[upbeat summit]

I thought the Pocket Fit Elite was gonna entice me but I'm aiming for the 16/512 model and that's only $30 less between the Fit Elite and the Odin 3, I might as well pay that $30 for OLED lol

[blissful frigate]

That is a thing of beauty! The ultra with all that power and performance in that size/form factor is hard to pass

[errant sable]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-we-one-gif-18212100

[umbral heron]

Could maybe pin this image instead as having more devices compared to is very helpful

[toxic brook]

Is the bottom one the Odin 2 mini?

[tame saddle]

Yeah

[autumn swan]

oh men, it is so hard now, i wanted to preorder Odin3, but now and Konkr Fit price very good, maybe will order both, and choose with is more comfortable for me.

[cosmic gate]

Helpful to a point… but now I’m thinking about waiting for an Odin 3 Mini.

[wary matrix]

would still be a 6" device most likely

[cosmic gate]

So probably not going to happen? They couldn’t make it much smaller with 6”.

[novel panther]

They could use the screen from the RP5

Maybe the RP6 will be what many people want from an Odin 3 Mini, though I doubt it will have an 8 Elite

Would only be 60hz then too...

[subtle zenith]

i even posted irl comparision of O2P , O2m RP5 and RPMini ... #🏆│device-showcase message

[wary matrix]

RP6 will most likely use the same screen, they had it custom made, they gotta use it

[wary matrix]

they could make it flat and look more like a VITA

[fringe frigate]

Anyone else kind of bummed that the new Ayn custom screen is 1080p? Like it's not a problem it's just, they're likely to continue using the screen for a while and these chips can definitely push 1440p

[tidal oak]

6” 1080p is 369ppi

The average person can’t see more than 300ppi at 12” away

[fringe frigate]

Well that might technically be true, but are you saying we should never go above 1080p? Like 50 years from now still be using 1080p because we can't see more than that? Not sure I can agree with that.

[tidal oak]

1440p has uses for integer scaling but I’m just saying that since it’s a 6” screen, 1080p will be visibly sharp as it’s relatively high ppi

[fast sable]

1080p is fine for me. Everything will look amazing at that res on a 6" screen

[tidal oak]

Like Rp mini has a 3.92” 1240x1080 screen which is 419ppi

That screen is gonna look nice paired with the odin3 screen in the Thor

[novel panther]

I gotta say, I had a Pocket S 1440p for a bit, and integer scaled GBA on that thing was incredible.

[tidal oak]

You can also do 7x with 12 pixel overscan

https://preview.redd.it/this-is-gba-with-7x-perfect-integer-scaling-you-sacrifice-v0-e9j0imyrmybe1.jpg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=492f037a09df161d99282ee3c042edae5cd752d3

On a 1080p screen

Or 6x since it is an oled.

[gritty temple]

So, with some more hours to go, who's getting an OD3?

I think I'm holding off for now (own the Portal 2, Thor pre-ordered).

[gusty river]

I think I'm holding off for the O3 Portal I've gone back and forth a lot hah

[gritty temple]

Exactly the same here.

[gusty river]

I know I'd want the portal when it comes out anyway and I'm in the US so I don't think its worth the tariffs on something ill sell in a year or so for the portal anyway.

[wary matrix]

nah, we gotta FOMO the Odin 3 Ultra

[gritty temple]

Price and super early bird discount makes it feel like we should get it. But it ships after the Thor. And the Portal 2 is just way too good still.

[wary matrix]

Baby Portal is the way

[kindred crypt]

I'm still unsure what SKU to go for but I may end up biting on the Ultra depending on the super fan discount

[gusty river]

If it wasn't for the Tariff issue I'd probably snag it for the early bird price but if I'm going to have to pay another 30% or more it's not worth it.

Also I really don't need the elite that bad anything PC I'm usually just going to stream from my PC anyway.

[subtle zenith]

how about O3 portal wirh 1440p 8" 😄

[gusty river]

That would be nice but I don't think I'd want the device any bigger than what it is.

[worldly lantern]

I'm here for Swoldin Ultra Max Thicc edition. Day 0 Preorder.

[quaint dust]

Is it IGG or through the website this time ? Time ?

[ripe stirrup]

igg, in slightly less than 12 hours

[quaint dust]

Thanks

[main dock]

How many ultras you guys getting?

One to rock, one to stock?

[quaint dust]

If anything just the Pro should cover everything you might want to do

[main dock]

But with 8gb extra ram you can have two more chrome tabs

[runic ferry]

So have they confirmed superfan? I am just wondering if i have to get up at 2:30AM

[novel panther]

No, but surely that's what Nicole was referring to when she said "surprises". It'll be a discount or something free/extra.

[runic ferry]

I hope they confirm something too. Would ideally not like to get up at 2:30AM 😫😫😫

[novel panther]

But yeah back on the Portal's launch, it was $10 off the Base version, which may not be worth it to you to wake up at 2.30am. The higher end models might get a better discount tho, not sure

If they confirmed it, it wouldn't be a surprise lol

[runic ferry]

True 🤦‍♂️ better set an alarm

[novel panther]

You'll get a lower ID number too and get yours delivered slightly quicker than you would have if you waited 'til a normal time lol

[runic ferry]

Alarm set 🫠

[novel panther]

I'll see you there mate 🫡 😴

[runic ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[wary matrix]

calling in sick just a few hours later 🫡

[runic ferry]

Work from home day now 😴

[trim panther]

Was it 48 hours early bird? Any limit on units

[wary matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-happycadogt-sniffling-snorting-running-gif-11164856057470572146

nah, I'm already down with the sickness

[clever halo]

Nope

[runic ferry]

Handheld sickness

[wary matrix]

that too, but my head is killing me and I could take a role in Ghostbusters as the slime

[runic ferry]

Hope you feel better

[novel panther]

Super Early Bird is 48 hours, no limits on quantity. That's the lowest advertised price.

However, there will likely be a "Super Fan" discount at launch, and you just need to sign up your email address on their IndieGoGo to get it. Probably best to join their Discord too, cause during the Portal's launch, the emails didn't come through, and the Super Fan links were posted in the Discord instead. The Super Fan discounts WERE limited.

[wary matrix]

no no, hope that I feel worse tomorrow morning so that I won't contemplate going to work, but go straight to the doctor for some extra vacation (after that you can hope I feel better)

[ocean perch]

The most important questions to ask today. What color are you buying?

[runic ferry]

Black. Because borders on games blend in

[novel panther]

Yeah i think i'm going black too. Thought about rainbow for a bit but black is so sleek and nice lookin'

[ocean perch]

It depends if the plastic is the same as before. The Odin 2 Portal was sooo smudgy

[unborn estuary]

https://youtu.be/_sru9Z7HEmA

[tame saddle]

Yeah. I jumped on g3gen3 but still tempted to elite since PC emulation will be my primary use

[quaint dust]

Excellent content as always

[novel panther]

Gotta use dat TPU grip

[unborn estuary]

Thanks! Just tried to keep it 1:1 as possible comparing only the APUs. Pretty crazy results!

[worldly sail]

Does that work with a tablet vs a handheld though? Like, the 8 Elite tablet still has active cooling so it’s not like it’s a complete “active cooled vs passive cooled” situation, but even then tablets and phones usually seem to run hotter just due to the tight constraints.

[unborn estuary]

Exactly. So the SOC in the tablet was essentially in it's worst case scenario but it still performed... well you saw 😂

Even being thermally constrained, it's one hell of an SOC.

[short gust]

both yes and no at the same time

Due to its size, a tablet is capable of dissipating much more heat than a phone, in total soc limited less

if a simple small cooler appears in the tablet, and all this will already give it the opportunity to remove 15 watts from the Elite at stable long time

not nubia, i mean normal realization fan

[worldly sail]

True, at the very least a tablet would be better at passive cooling than a phone, even if active cooling would still be better (and in this case the tablet still has active cooling).

[short gust]

And if you put it in an ayaneo s2 case even, you can remove all 20W (to unlock 17.5w limit u need root), and of course it won't be 100% stable, but it will still achieve an amazing result.
But I think the cooling in them is more serious than what they did for the G3 Gen3, if they really understand what kind of beast it is and its potential (bigger fan/'s, more optimized heat route, more pipes etc) 25-30w real in compact arm handheld format

[unborn estuary]

Ah thats true too, yep!

[worldly sail]

Personally I’m thinking they’ll likely be using the using the same cooling for both Pocket Fit’s, in which the regular G3Gen3 version will have a way better cooling system than the Pocket S2 had, just from the fact of that active cooling being initially designed for the 8 Elite.

Or it could also be the vice versa…

[short gust]

i dont think so

better cooling platform cost money

they can use just the same as G3

in total Elite will be heavy limited the as tablets/phones :/ (15w+- like, peak 20)

[unborn estuary]

Its gonna be interesting to see how good that cooling solution in the Odin 3 works.

[short gust]

bet ayaneo will do better

[wispy jackal]

Past devices doesn't suggest this

[short gust]

? Ayaneo S2 Pro can cool 18W long time, 20W peak short

[fast sable]

Big doubt on that 🤣 AYN have never had issues with their cooling but the same cant be said for AYA

[short gust]

AYN never use strong soc so

[fast sable]

8g2 isnt weak...

[short gust]

its not G3 lvl u understand that, not HUGE boost in performance cpu and gpu but enough in power consumption

[fast sable]

And switch emulation can heat that thing up without cooling

[short gust]

peak 8GEN2 is 9W, until unlock limit

[fast sable]

The Evo wasn't properly cooled and had bad thermals.

[short gust]

Heard that, it is on every or just first batch/first units?

[clever halo]

The G3x is just an overclocked Gen 2 with a stronger GPU, so while it has some extra power, it's not significant enough to warrant a unique cooling setup. Plus the Pocket S 1 was notorious in the early days for its heat and the early batches of Evos for their thermal problems. Sure these got resolved later, but it doesn't instill faith imho

[robust chasm]

ayaneo might forget to put the thermal pad on

[fast sable]

I pray for those backers thay AYA doesnt mess that up again

[robust chasm]

or was it on but not thick enough

[worldly sail]

It actually was properly cooled, where they fucked up was in using thermal pads that were too thin.

[fast sable]

Yeah it was there but no sufficient

[robust chasm]

yeah, that was it

[worldly sail]

When you use proper sized pads or even paste, the cooling was surprisingly better than their previous handhelds with the G3X Gen 2.

[tame saddle]

@short gust so your assumption is that g3gen3 will trump 8 elite for things like winlator?

[fast sable]

So...it resulted in bad thermals then. Those stability scores were around 80-85% before AYA eventually sorted it

[short gust]

also maybe u dont know that ... but G3x Gen 2 use 15W with peak 18

stock limit

when 8 Gen 2 9W

[tame saddle]

Did this with my dmg and went up to like expected performance and 98% stability

[short gust]

I don't suppose, I know... for now, Elite is too raw.

it has huge potential, and if u ready to wait do that (price-spec awesome)

[fast sable]

If only they did this at the factory. So many owners of the DMG, Pocket S and Evo must be missing out on performance because of it.

[tame saddle]

Yeah. It was a pretty big fuckup

[worldly sail]

Exactly, the problem wasn’t the design of the cooling itself, it was them fucking up on something that, at the very least, was user fixable (as opposed to if it was the cooling itself that was inherently bad).

[tame saddle]

Was pretty wild taking it apart and seeing just how far the pad was from touching the heatsink

[short gust]

pretty sure problem with thermal pad, thats it

common problem on handhelds

[fast sable]

We can only hope they learned their lessons and don't mess this up with the Konkr devices because those are going to get toasty otherwise.

[worldly sail]

It would’ve been better if they hadn’t fucked up in the first place, but at least it wasn’t something that couldn’t be fixed at all.

[tame saddle]

To be fair, I'm pretty sure all their methods are take x86 cooling solution and slap it on arm chip. Which I mean works so

[short gust]

no

[tame saddle]

That's what it looked like

[short gust]

x86 cooling solution bigger

any

[fast sable]

They've used their x86 cooling on android devices in the past

[tame saddle]

That's not true. Not midrange and lower

[short gust]

i mean high-end

[worldly sail]

Didn’t they literally advertise some of their handhelds as using the same cooling as their x86 handhelds?

[tame saddle]

Well duh. I didn't say they took high end

[fast sable]

Yeah they did lol

[tame saddle]

Your just making that assumption

[short gust]

dont remember that

maybe

[errant sable]

Pocket air is the perfect example of it working properly

When they do it right

[tame saddle]

Yeah. They 100% took x86 cooling solution and slapped it on. Which is fine

[worldly sail]

Like, it’s not even like that’s a negative, it’s arguably outright better to use those if they can make ones that are small enough to work.

[tame saddle]

But there wasn't some insane unique engineering they did

[fast sable]

One of the best devices they did imo

[short gust]

maybe only ayaneo put x86 cooling on arm

[errant sable]

Love mines never have to go beyond low

[tame saddle]

Part of the problem was that the solution was made for paste and they used thin pads instead

[worldly sail]

Yup, which they apparently rectified by using a shit ton of paste in the Ace’s.

[short gust]

bc solid x86 handhelds have way more complicated cooling

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Basically flooded

[short gust]

like Ally

[tame saddle]

Bro. All cooling solutions are chip, transfer medium, heatsink and fan

Difference being x86 uses some pipes to move it because they can't just slap the fan in the middle

[worldly sail]

And from what I can tell, the paste they’re using is actually outright better than what’s usually considered the best for users? Considering that one guy replaced it with something like Thermal Grizzly or another high-end thermal paste brand, and it outright did worse.

[short gust]

yes, this why its not the same in cooling performance

[tame saddle]

Like each one of those steps can use different sizes, materials, etc. which affect thermals

[worldly sail]

Or maybe it’s just that “them using a shit ton of it” was in fact necessary for how they designed it?

[tame saddle]

But it's not like vapor chamber or a different tech most of the time

[short gust]

closest cooling in performance to arm has steam deck

it simple too

[worldly sail]

Good X86 heatsinks are designed not just for the motherboard alone (if they’re meant to make contact with more than 1 component), but also for the case they’ll be in. If they have x86 fans/heatsinks that work with the handheld design they’re using, then they can use them just fine.

[tame saddle]

But yeah. Both ayn and ayaneo will do fine. One might eek out slightly better performance. But the diff won't be insane unless one of them like really fucks up

[short gust]

That's true, but then it would be superfluous.

[worldly sail]

Yeah, which is the point.

It’s arguably not needed for Android devices specifically, but it’s also easier and less costly than designing a brand new cooling system specifically for that Android handheld, not when they have access to a cooling system that was originally made for an x86 but will also fit in the Android handheld just fine.

[tame saddle]

I'm still not 100% sold on elite underperforming g3gen3 for winlator but

[short gust]

what, its not

[errant sable]

Do we know if the o3 will support charge pass through @fast sable

[short gust]

Elite way more powerful

problem is drivers

that is

[tame saddle]

Yeah. We've been over this. But stock performance is still good

[fast sable]

Im not sure sorry

[tame saddle]

Like stock 8 elite easily outperforms 8gen2

[errant sable]

It should you can't name your chip elite and not be juiced up lol

[short gust]

it outperform everything

[errant sable]

Just gotta see how it performs in candy crush

[short gust]

even on 10W

[wary matrix]

isn't that juiced up enough for you?

[errant sable]

https://tenor.com/view/nope-no-way-gif-24547692

Show me the other slide

[wary matrix]

but honestly, the G3 Gen3 (8 Gen3) is already plenty

[short gust]

it not even close

[tame saddle]

Yeah. What wattage is that under tho. I hate benchmark charts

[short gust]

to real difference

[short gust]

https://tenor.com/view/big-emma-engvid-huge-massive-gif-25786601

[tame saddle]

So g3gen3 will be somewhere between 8gen3 and elite 8

[short gust]

no

[errant sable]

https://tenor.com/view/ifunny-trump-watermark-ifunny-watermark-i-funny-gif-2127246376315082046

[short gust]

G3 Gen3 cpu less powerful than 8 gen 3

it has overclocked gpu only

[tame saddle]

And winlator only uses CPU?

[short gust]

both

[tame saddle]

K. So it could fall between?

[short gust]

cpu: 8 Gen 3 > G3 Gen3 > 8 gen 2

[tame saddle]

Yeah. I got that. I'm trying to determine performance in winlator

[short gust]

btw its not much less than 8 gen 3, like that

[wary matrix]

it's basically 8 Gen3 performance, those benchmarks can vary quite a bit depending on the device you use

[short gust]

exactly, depend on cooling and vendor limits

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Anything in a phone is just gonna do worse

[main dock]

so preorder is monday 7:30am PST?

[errant sable]

tuesday

[wary matrix]

discord auto translates to your time zone

3:30am for me

[clever halo]

9:30pm for me

[short gust]

not realistic score

here 8 pro peak

so, Ayaneo more powerful even with weaker cpu

just bc 8 gen 3 limited so hard, GAYming phone btw

and here handmade 8 gen 3 handheld

[errant sable]

what are we looking at

[short gust]

geekbench 6

[errant sable]

for what chips

[short gust]

Phone
stock vs tune

[runic ferry]

2:30AM 🫠

I will be so sleepy i will accidentally order the ultra

[short gust]

21W (i dont know who have Aya s2, so if want to know score ask them to test it, not extreme)

[wary matrix]

same same

[sonic orbit]

Make sure to check that IGG isn't adding an automatic tip to the total this time around.

[main dock]

fucking tip

its a fucking disease

pardon my language

[narrow sable]

#stoptippingculture

[gusty river]

Tipping the US 30% 😂

[kindred crypt]

why do I have the feeling I'll end up with the Ultra even though I know it's complete overkill

damn it

[umbral heron]

Overkill now, but who knows later down the road :p

The 1tb internal storage is also a good reason to get Ultra and more likely to be needed than the 24gb ram

[kindred crypt]

yeah, that internal storage is calling me

but I don't want to be the sucker that overpays

[tame saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/i-see-you-i-see-i-see-what-you-did-there-i-see-u-i-see-how-it-is-gif-10674318008751721117

[umbral heron]

I’m planning to get a 2tb sd card regardless of if I was getting more internal storage or not, so I’m just gonna take the savings with the Max chip (which will be future-proof for PS3 emulation as well)

Not a fan of having my games saved in the internal storage

[weary kernel]

i have most of mine on the SD card, just the bigger ones on internal like PS2/GC

[tame saddle]

Yeah. I almost never buy based on internal storage. I have large SDs I just move everywhere

[kindred crypt]

I'd rather have a large SD card that I can move around than internal storage that's locked to the device tbh

but of course there's a bunch of crap that can only do internal

[umbral heron]

The good thing with Switch is that you can patch the updates and dlc to the rom file itself.
Would love it if the same could be done with 3ds though (don’t remember if you can)

Thor Pro only has 256gb, so I’d like to do that for 3ds

[placid chasm]

I am really interested in the Odin 3 and the potential it has, but I am really worried about the lack of turnip drivers and such.

It gives me a lot of pause that the people who work on those have not exactly come out and said it would be a high priority or even what a reasonable timeline would look like.

[umbral heron]

One of the Eden devs have confirmed in the AYN server that they’re working on adding better support for 8 Elite normal drivers (which turnip driver devs have already stated is faster than turnip)

I would like to see turnip support added in the long term myself, but improving support for the normal drivers is certainly appreciated

[placid chasm]

Yea, I think for me I have been strongly considering just having 2 devices.

The rp5 can be more my mobile device while something like the portal 2 could be the home device

The Odin 3 just has the potential to be the all in 1 device though

It is a very appealing device for sure

[umbral heron]

That’s what the O3 will be for me basically.
And eventually Thor will replace my actual New 2DS (still keeping the latter for sentimental reasons)

[placid chasm]

Yea i have my 2ds xl and my vita still.

Still love them both and they make me happy

[wispy jackal]

Android apps can only be installed on hard drive so there is that to consider when deciding internal size

[placid chasm]

Also, worried about the tariff situation in the US

[unborn estuary]

You guys are set to pay ... 30% more when it arrives?

What's tariffs at right now?

[placid chasm]

Yea 30%

[rain crescent]

They always add the 80 bucks you gotta remove and put 0️⃣

[placid chasm]

Yea for US folks, the tariff currently would be 30%, so really around 400 bucks for the base model.

That said, if they were to not reach an agreement and the 145% tariffs actually went live (unlikely but unfortunately possible) then it would be over $700 for the base model

Which is certainly....great.

[olive osprey]

ill have to pay 19% import tax + declaration fees

[upbeat summit]

oh shit two hours

[kindred crypt]

Up to 20% off 🤔

[minor sinew]

Odin 3 Soon™
https://rh-go.link/AYN-Odin-3_IGG

[kindred crypt]

[stiff quartz]

I bet so many are waiting to see if there's any super early bird discounts

[kindred crypt]

literally everbody lol

Nicole teased us, so

[stiff quartz]

before considering the Pocket Fit 😅

my brain is not working well today

[kindred crypt]

ah, I gochu, yeah, possibly

the Pocket Fit is selling a lot less that you would normally think

[trim panther]

When’s it meant to be live?

[stiff quartz]

I'm pretty surprised it's doing so poorly

[kindred crypt]

in one hour and a half

[trim panther]

Damn I’ll have to pull over and see then 🤣

Start work in 30 mins

[wispy jackal]

People waiting to see also oled for a little more is a deciding factor as well brand loyalty more people own ayns than ayaneo they appear to be a much bigger company or part of a company as the commissioned the 6inch oled screen something ayaneo seem unable to do.Having it on indiegogo you can see easily how many are sold

[torn saffron]

By the way tarrifs are applied to manufacturing cost, not retail price.

So even if they fail to skirt customs they still have ways to lower the tarrif burden.

[main dock]

Is the pocket fit the new pocket air?

[sick basin]

My real concern with this isnt so much the price but the shipping timeline

[main dock]

Well not really. Pocket fit has same soc

I was commenting on people not ordering pocket air cause Odin 2 was around the corner

[quaint dust]

I think a lot of people are still on the fence between the O3 and Fit and just might be waiting for a Super Early bird price to decide…….like me

[sick basin]

O3 for me been waiting on an elite handheld and Im going for the 24gb model, why? I have no idea lets go though.

[umbral heron]

I will see reviews and buy it when I feel ready to.
No need to pre-order for me

[quaint dust]

Im a cheap bastard so always looking for the best deal

[civic forge]

I am gonna assume your username means you're also from Tennessee, in which case we have two things in common. I'm going for the ultra as well, for literally no reason

XD

[sick basin]

Nice! And yep good guess on the user name.

[tame saddle]

doesn't that just means 20% off MSRP?

[kindred crypt]

maybe? no idea

[sick basin]

Interesting bit is on the preview page the highest % off rn is 16

On the base model

[gusty river]

Yeah I’m pretty sure that’s just talking about the early bird prices

[slender birch]

Still two hours to wait?

[tame saddle]

40 min now

[slender birch]

I thought it was 9:30pm CST?

[tame saddle]

7:30 mst according to the clock they put on their discord

[slender birch]

Hell yeah, I was going by a screenshot of the prices

How do you join the discord?

[tame saddle]

Yeah. I mean I'm assuming that's accurate or their discord gonna implode. Lol

DMed it to yah

[slender birch]

The same thing happened when they did the Thor drop. CST, is that not central standard time? I always seem to be an hour late to ayn lol

[tame saddle]

Think China Standard Time

[slender birch]

I thought that too but it doesn’t match up by a huge difference

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Dunno what their infographic means then. Heh

[trim panther]

If there’s a seb I might end up with one

[slender birch]

It has to be something lost in translation. Because they are staying true to the Beijing time. Maybe they mean EST and no one had ever caught it internally

Them basing it off new york does make more sense on an international level. Can’t imagine Nebraska is a larger market lol

[ripe stirrup]

No news/confirmation of any hidden perks?

[civic forge]

All I've seen is the limit on each tier jumped from 100 to 300

[gusty river]

There’s no limit on early bird pricing

They just posted Superfan links that will go live in 10min those are limited but no one knows what

[wary matrix]

you kids ready

[gusty river]

$20 off links

[trim panther]

Super fan is previous customers I presume?

[wary matrix]

super fan is those of us insane enough to be awake at 3:30am

[trim panther]

I’m at work 🤣

[runic ferry]

2:30am here 😫

[kindred crypt]

🫡

[trim panther]

But I’m driving so depends what happens when it goes live

[wary matrix]

okay, time for death and carnage to save $10

[trim panther]

Fomo coming out my arse

[civic forge]

Ultra ordered

[swift nacelle]

Nah that price is sexy af

$340€, damn

[umbral heron]

No Odin 3 for me until next year, but everyone getting one rn, hope you enjoy your O3 when it arrives 🙏

[wary matrix]

Ultra was $20 off

[civic forge]

Heck yeah gotta get that ultra

It has ultra in the name

[kindred crypt]

snatched this one, ultra discount is kinda too little to justify it

[swift nacelle]

This looks perfectly fine as well

No need for ultra

[kindred crypt]

went back and forth on whether I'd use that 1TB but I think 512GB is fine

[runic ferry]

It is done superfan pro 👍

Dont need anymore than 12gb

Back to sleep now

[worldly lantern]

$10 was a nice nod to people online for the Pro price. Helps with shipping / accessory offset.

[runic ferry]

@wary matrix you accidentally order the ultra? 😅

[kindred crypt]

Ultra is the most popular right now people going ham at it

[runic ferry]

Even the super early birds are going fast

[kindred crypt]

oh yeah, you are right, that's surprising

[runic ferry]

Already beating konkr

[civic forge]

Plus ultra!

[kindred crypt]

lots of people missing out on the super fan discounts lol

[wary matrix]

kinda, 24gb RAM go brrrrr

[kindred crypt]

by a mile

[runic ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/nice-south-park-gif-17950420

[wary matrix]

$479 ain't tooo bad anyway

[runic ferry]

Its nearly doubled it in a few mins 😅

[main dock]

fellow ultra bro

[runic ferry]

#1407305533462941716 message

For those who haven’t seen superfan links yet

[wary matrix]

enough folks didn't use their $20 off

[runic ferry]

Still superfans left 😅

[wary matrix]

but in all fairness, first time I used the link it didn't pop up

had to reload the page

[quaint dust]

Are Super EB discount for a certain number or 2 days

[main dock]

i almost missed it

about to purchase super bird, then tried again and the secret perk was there

[ripe stirrup]

2 days, no limits in units. only one that is limited units is the superfan

[runic ferry]

Tbh i was always getting pro. Discount offsets accessories and shipping kinda

[runic ferry]

Ultra is popular

[main dock]

very surprising

i thought i was the only stupid one

[runic ferry]

Yeah. Lots of winlator people out there

[quaint dust]

Holy shit AYN is crushing it compared to the Fit

[wary matrix]

go big or go home

[runic ferry]

12 is enough for my needs. So rest of money towards LeGo 2 😅

[wary matrix]

poor folks with their base Odin 3

[main dock]

they lost me at lcd

[olive osprey]

Clickable links please?

[runic ferry]

See above picture

I posted link

[quaint dust]

Understandable and Elite for Elite same price

[olive osprey]

Unknown channel

[runic ferry]

You need to be part of Ayn discord

Sadly i cant post invite here

[olive osprey]

Just paste the links please?

[ripe stirrup]

wow

so many people buying super early bird when there are superfan left?

[main dock]

they prob dont know

even the ones in the know arent using the coupon right lmao

[runic ferry]

Hopefully this works.

SF PRO https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/
3345199/x/26364276? secret_perk_token=ccbee811
SF Max https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/
3345199/x/26364276? secret_perk_token=dcbb2a83
SF Ultra https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/
3345199/x/26364276?

[ripe stirrup]

🤣

[main dock]

people outside of the discord i guess?

[runic ferry]

Wow 519 already. Crushing konkr

[gusty river]

Good to know when the O3 Portal comes out it will be easy to get the Super Fan price considering all these people posting their orders without it 🤣

[clever halo]

Absolutely decimating Konkr

[main dock]

konkrs bad launch day

[runic ferry]

Also konkr doesnt show cancellations

So could be even worse

[worldly sail]

Yup, kind of sucks since that $240 Pocket Fit is unironically a really freaking good price and all this will likely do is teach them to never try again, but it probably should’ve been expected that people would jump for the newest chip out there.

[main dock]

yeah thats insane

but oled or bust lmao

[ripe stirrup]

all igg campaigns will reflect cancellations in the backers number, just that maybe not real time

[lusty lynx]

Super fan Ultra acquired.

[upbeat summit]

damn wish i had the super fan link

[violet hamlet]

RH Link for Odin 3: https://rh-go.link/AYN-Odin-3_IGG

[main dock]

what will you do with your extra ram sir

[kindred crypt]

how the fuck is Ultra the most popular lmao

[main dock]

personally ill have 4 more chrome tabs open

[ripe stirrup]

you can still order now? plenty of units left

[runic ferry]

I was expecting pro to sell out tbh

[worldly sail]

Eh, $240 for a G3 Gen 3 makes OLED look like a pretty shit bonus (specifically when you compare it to the only 2 OLED options in that price tier, the RG557 and the RP5/Flip 2, but Odin 3 is just outright better).

[upbeat summit]

can't see it plus i already ordered like a dingus

[lusty lynx]

Open 300 chrome tabs

[ripe stirrup]

i think the superfan was more mild than the odin 2, the one for O2 went out within 20 min, then auto reject/cancellation by banks keep freeing up some additional units over the next 1-2 hours

[tame saddle]

Hmmm. Max or ultra?

[main dock]

personally il just not buy anything lcd anymore

[sick basin]

Where are the superfan links?

[tame saddle]

Surprised so many ultras honestly

[slender birch]

Clear blue to win

[lusty lynx]

1TB of storage + Future proof amount of ram.

[ripe stirrup]

SF PRO https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/3345199/x/26364276?secret_perk_token=ccbee811

SF Max https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/3345199/x/26364276?secret_perk_token=dcbb2a83

SF Ultra https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/3345199/x/26364276?secret_perk_token=fca46ef8

[sick basin]

Ty

[worldly sail]

Although, I also frankly don’t give a fuck about OLED vs IPS as long as the screen is good, so it’s probably just a me thing.

[lusty lynx]

The email for signing up for updates.

[sick basin]

May have went to spam i guess im parked been driving.

[gritty temple]

As if OD3 Ultra buyers won't purchase the OD4 Ultra a couple of years later...

This ride never ends!

[quaint dust]

I have no will power

[kindred crypt]

future proof! (for one year)

[runic ferry]

You do as you didnt the ultra 😅

[worldly sail]

Hell, they could sell the O4 with an IPS and people would probably still climb over each other just to get it.

[gritty temple]

"So I paid extra since this handheld is endgame for me (for at least six months until the next shiny thing)."

[quaint dust]

That is way out from what Im comfortable spending

[stiff quartz]

Wow, almost 4x Pocket Fit numbers

[wary matrix]

it's a shame that the $239 model ain't flying off the shelves tho, like anyone looking for a Retroid level device should just go with that right now tbh

[runic ferry]

Yeah pro for me too. Just meant i could get the accessory pack

[ripe stirrup]

i got the accessory bundle, even though i not sure i going to be using it other a case+screen protector 😂

[runic ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/xom-xomsol-gif-8900708723100349391

Ayn to aya right now

[kindred crypt]

people really rejected the LCD, there's no other explanation

[wary matrix]

six months? are you insane? we will buy the next one in a week

[worldly sail]

Honestly, I still don’t know if me getting the Pocket Fit specifically because I just don’t trust the 8 Elite right now counts as me having will power, or me just being too skeptical after the whole “Arm SteamFork” that got me especially hyped for the RP5 and Mini ended up never happening.

[hasty cobalt]

I mean O3 is technically already outdated next month when the wave of 8 Elite Gen 5 (8 Elite 2) phones get released in October 😂

[quaint dust]

Im a lost cause and thinking of ordering a base Fit too

[wary matrix]

DO IT

I have now a KONKR G3Gen3 Fit 16/512 and a Odin 3 24/1024 on order

[worldly sail]

No shit, it’s an insane price and given it’s a pre-order, they can just cancel it before shipment if they don’t trust it enough.