AYN Odin 3

[worldly sail]

Weren’t you just trash talking the 8 Elite and “talking about the G3 Gen 3 being better” like literally 3 days ago?

[short gust]

moment like that will happened in one game / 10

[short gust]

ofc, bc of drivers

[urban grail]

Dont encourage them lol

[worldly sail]

Ok there we go.

[errant sable]

How are the temps i dont see many videos or pics of temps

[errant sable]

https://tenor.com/view/chill-daddy-take-it-easy-calm-down-gif-13696124

[short gust]

its okey even on external cooler

peltier element

[worldly sail]

But yeah, the Taki video showed exactly how powerful 8G3 already could be, so a version of the chip that can by default overclock “more safely” going for only like $330, that’s pretty great to me.

[tame saddle]

Fuck me. Like 8 elite is a massive jump. It just is. Driver support is lacking, but a8xx is inevitable. Like it's not a bad buy. Just a different buy. Depending on what you want to do with it.

[errant sable]

Yea the aya software let's you manually tune the chips too

And fan curve

[tame saddle]

If the price was significantly higher it'd be a bad buy

[clever halo]

Basically

[worldly sail]

Granted, if we get any demos of the Odin 3 playing something like Armored Core 6 on full speed, that would also probably get me to go for the Odin 3.

[tame saddle]

If it was hx370 high vs 8840u gaps, it'd be dumb

[frosty gate]

What are some concrete examples of where the 8elite is going to be an improvement on the 8gen2?

I have an 8gen2 phone and I honestly don't think I'm fully utilizing the chip as is.

[tame saddle]

People are gonna go nutty on this with winlator

Just saying

Your gonna see some wild shit

Actively cooled 8 elite gonna be a beast with 24gb ram

[main dock]

Just have to wait through one more Cruel Summer, possibly Back to December.

[tame saddle]

If we only got bazzite/steamOS for arm, it'd be even wilder

People be liquid cooling their o3. Lol

[main dock]

Have there been any elite vs x86 benchmarks

[frosty gate]

Assume drivers sort themselves out within six months

Am I looking at better, more stable Switch (1) performance, or is that still emulator limited rather than horsepower limited?

Am I looking at better power efficiency for native Android? I'm already at max settings on Genshin and it's 60fps locked, so the only gains would be battery and heat.

[worldly sail]

Emulator limited.

It’s gotten better, but as-is there’s still a lot of graphical and general stability issues, and that’s not even talking about compatibility with 8 Elite.

[errant sable]

Yea sadly games also just wont launch

Eden just pushed 0.03 yesterday

[frosty gate]

🤝 good to know

[errant sable]

Wo they are actually doing really well with these updates

[tame saddle]

Loads better. Switch with all the emulator options is more hardware locked then anything else

[worldly sail]

Like, as-is I still regularly have to tinker a shit ton to get some of the games I prefer emulating to run well (mainly just indie stuff that I dumped from my Switch since I mostly play on my Switch 2 now for unmodded games).

[tame saddle]

It's true. But switch is hardware locked. Like there's just less breathing room

I mean shit. The switch 1 struggles to run switch games 😆

[errant sable]

If you want it for switch and stuff I'd wait for the next odin model and hopefully driver are more available for it

[worldly sail]

Oh, and for Android it absolutely should be better, considering it’s a standard phone chip, so they already should be keeping it in mind.

[trim fossil]

Maybe it'll end up being all too well

[tame saddle]

The bigger question is how long until they can reach parity on a8xx. If it's a nightmare 6 months may be optimistic

[errant sable]

O3 portal would be great for streaming and emulation hopefully by the time it comes

[short gust]

u cant do that -_-

[main dock]

Whatever

[short gust]

scores on arm and x86 are not similar

[worldly sail]

Yeah, a modded Switch will do a lot since you can remove the underclock that’s just always active by default, but even then there’s only so much even an Overclocked Switch 1 can do before it would be better to just play on a Switch 2.

[short gust]

max what u can is compare Elite with M Series

M series easy to compare with x86

[main dock]

I’ll do what I want, and you can do whatever you want

[tame saddle]

Part of me just wishes 3rd party drivers weren't necessary but I get why

"whatever" you want

I see what you did there

But yeah. Hard not to be excited at the pricing. It looks comfy, is a solid size, oled, and about as future proof as you can get. Maybe even too future proof 😆

[subtle zenith]

i am in no rush with THor coming and Portal waiting for me at home

[tame saddle]

Yeah. I mean Thor and existing portal are good reasons to wait it out if you have one or both

[worldly sail]

Best combo for me will probably be G3Gen3 Pocket Fit for now, and then Odin 3 later on whenever the drivers get better.

[tame saddle]

Personally I just want to feel it thrumming on boot tho. Lol. Hard to resist

[autumn obsidian]

hopefully later on people sell for around 300 used for the base and i get an 8 elite handheld for a great price

[tame saddle]

Eh. Save money and get cheaper

[slender notch]

Didn't the turnip driver guy say he wasn't working elite drivers?

[clever halo]

Im sticking to my Odin 2 Mini rn till either birthday or holiday pay comes in and I can just buy it guilt free

[clever halo]

That was a tester iirc

[slender notch]

Maybe once elite 2 comes out?

[tame saddle]

I don't really see the point of sacrificing OLED and spending more to get 8gen2 performance

[slender notch]

Ok

[tame saddle]

Cause g3gen3 is basically gonna run any emulation as well as 8gen2

Outside maybe ps3

[worldly sail]

I’ve already got both the Thor Max and Yellow Pocket DS pre-ordered, and the Pocket Ace is already my most used handheld nowadays.

[subtle zenith]

ps3 is super early

[clever halo]

And tbh, we still haven't cracked the limit on 8gen2 performance ceiling

[tame saddle]

Yeah. So not even worth it for that

[subtle zenith]

that miht take longer than elite drivers

[autumn obsidian]

yea the 8g2 is still a monster

[short gust]

i dont think so

[tame saddle]

I'd only get konkr if you like really love trigger stops. Lol

[autumn obsidian]

i already have an og odin 2 and odin 2 portal so this one is meh

later on used, hell yea

[short gust]

ps3 pregress so fast

[worldly sail]

At best, the only reason I can still call myself “barely insane and ‘moderately’ abusive towards my wallet” is the fact I’m still careful about ensuring I actually finish paying for something before getting anything big, and also the fact I actually do plan on selling stuff I don’t use.

[tame saddle]

And market gonna be flooded with portals

[short gust]

if u use/test beta builds

[clever halo]

Good

Might actually finally buy one

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Now's the time to pick one up when you see a good deal

[clever halo]

Or trade my Mini pro for one

[worldly sail]

Plus, seeing as how my Pocket Ace is my most used handheld nowadays, I definitely do not care about IPS vs OLED.

[tame saddle]

Yeah. It's a preference thing. Real hard to go back for me

Even with nice ips panels

[clever halo]

I can swap between the two just fine

[tame saddle]

Play anything outside golden ratios and those bars are like searing brands on my eyes

[hasty cobalt]

8 Elite price war has begun

[tame saddle]

Picked up my OLED modded switch lite and played a title I've been playing on switch 2 and was like damn, I cant read any of the text, but the colors 😆

[short gust]

its very good

[tame saddle]

I mean it's possible ayaneo goes nutty

[fast sable]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-meme-gif-22672438

[tame saddle]

But it'd have to be probably $40 cheaper for me to pass up oled

[short gust]

260$ for early

[errant sable]

All these damn crazy prices making my damn blood pressure go up

Ayaneo isn't afraid of taking a loss

[worldly sail]

https://tenor.com/view/godzilla-let-them-fight-fight-ken-watanabe-watanabe-gif-5687182

[tame saddle]

Goddamn their marketing as been dumb for konkr tho

[errant sable]

They did with the pocket air

[worldly sail]

Their competing price cuts are our gain.

[tame saddle]

The whole < campaign really fell flat

[errant sable]

We win

[worldly sail]

Come on Ayn, you can drop those prices just a tiny bit more. You can still undercut them.

[errant sable]

[ripe stirrup]

If they can get the g3 version down to like sub 250 ( 8/128 sku), I might get it. Maybe some super limited units like what they do for Mendocino/Intel air plus last time.

[umbral heron]

Speaking for myself here, but don’t think I’d be likely to get a Portal because of the size.
O3 is looking to be in that goldielocks kind of size that I enjoy a lot where it can fit in certain pockets and more bags than the Portal, but still has a good size screen

[errant sable]

Id never put anything bigger than a rp4 in my pocket

[worldly sail]

Shit I wasn’t even thinking about that but you’re right.

This could also lead to them making the G3Gen3 Pocket Fit the most insane “price to performance” handheld we’ve seen in a long while.

[errant sable]

That's asking for something to break or go missing

[worldly sail]

Imagine getting a G3Gen3 handheld for the same price as a freaking RG477M.

[umbral heron]

I prefer pocketing clamshells.
This would be more of my backpack handheld

[leaden hollow]

Sub $250? Not happening tbh

[errant sable]

Tomtoc got a nice sling bag that holds alot of stuff

[worldly sail]

Obviously only via Early Bird or something else like it, but still.

[errant sable]

Or a backpack works too

[umbral heron]

I’ve been looking at some slingbags recently that I’m considering for the O3

[errant sable]

Yea the pocket air had eb price of 280 which for a oled handheld that had a d1200 was pretty good

[worldly sail]

Well, it was good for the time, until Ayn dropped the Odin 2.

I still ended up getting both and actually preferring the Pocket Air for everything except for Switch, but I still sold it once the RP5 was released.

[errant sable]

The fan on it is pretty overkill lol

[tame saddle]

Problem is Ayaneo's EB is their sales price, cause that's the only time they sell

[short gust]

can be

for early-early limited time

[errant sable]

Yea people dont remember that the pocket air wasn't suppose to compete with the o2

[short gust]

[errant sable]

That was the pocket s but they took forever to release it

[short gust]

24h

or even less

[tame saddle]

Lol. 5 min

[short gust]

That's entirely possible; they'll just recoup their costs with this.

[worldly sail]

Yeah, last I remember they were essentially advertising it as a “Pocket Air, but with Snapdragon instead of Dimensity”.

And then it became the Pocket S, which was…a lot more different from the Pocket Air.

[errant sable]

Yea then they got the game chip or whatever they used

[short gust]

This is usually the case when there are similar discounts for the first buyers; it is close to the cost price of the device.

[worldly sail]

Man, I freaking loved the Pocket Air, hopefully that Mini ends up being great.

[ripe stirrup]

6 Sep.
There was some post/screenshot showing Arthur saying that prices are already fixed, they don't react/change for competitiors or similar?

[errant sable]

Yea i still use mines

[short gust]

without margin or extremaly low (to cover additional expenses, if any)

[tame saddle]

Oh. They're not changing it. They're just not even announcing it 😆

[oak nacelle]

The downside being you have to wear a slingbag

[short gust]

Konkr G3 should realy cost sub 250$ to get a place for first buyers

[worldly sail]

That’s why they didn’t announce it and left it at “<$400” and “<$330”, so that they can say whatever and act like “it was never changed”.

[tame saddle]

Haha. Yeah

I really do think that campaign was meant to be a several day leadup to price announcement as well. Was the only way it'd make sense

[short gust]

and Elite like 260$, 40$ oled margin pretty fair

[tame saddle]

Then o3 ads dropped and they were like, holdup

Cause announcing the konkr price and then getting kicked in the nutts Thor style would have been rough

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-stop-hes-already-dead-gif-15192144

Good on ayn for having the balls to be aggressively first

Thought we might have ended up in an eternal stalemate

[short gust]

I have a strong feeling that this year we will get several devices for $200 on 8 gen 2.

[tame saddle]

O3 finally release in 2028

[short gust]

after RP6

with G2 Gen2

[tame saddle]

Ayn gonna fire sale stock at some point

Usually gotta be quick tho

[slender notch]

Like new ones?

[short gust]

yup

[tame saddle]

Nah. I doubt new

[slender notch]

Would be cool. I guess technically Thor is new 🙂

[short gust]

Thor good price-spec

[tame saddle]

Snapdragon probably done with it. Once makers current stock runs out I doubt people will be ordering more

[slender notch]

Yeah with a 2nd screen those are good prices

[tame saddle]

Snapdragon is gonna push g series on anyone placing new orders

[slender notch]

I'm curious if the gen 3 starts showing up? Or maybe they just made more G3s

[short gust]

G2 Gen2 not exclusive im pretty sure

at least for first time

[slender notch]

Yeah makes sense

[short gust]

and after everyone will be able to order it

[slender notch]

Because normally the 8 gen # had modems.

Since for phones

[tame saddle]

Think they'll skip 8gen3 for handhelds

[short gust]

obv they will

it cost too much

[slender notch]

Yeah I doubt they made some without modems since they started the G series. But maybe I'm wrong.

[short gust]

and zero profit in games

vs G3 Gen3

[tame saddle]

Yeah. But everything eventually costs less. G3/G2/etc. is basically just a rewrapping

[short gust]

wonder why they not make Elite without modem

[slender notch]

G3 Gen 3 was basically 8 gen 3? Or am I confusing the #s?

[ripe stirrup]

Ayn seems to have a good relationship with Qualcomm since the Odin 1 days, but somehow didn't get persuaded/compelled to adopt the G series

[short gust]

its cursed 8 gen 3

[tame saddle]

G Elite gonna be a thing eventually

[short gust]

cpu less, gpu overclocked

[tame saddle]

G series is just a rebrand of older chips

[short gust]

less wattage

[slender notch]

Gotcha, that's what I remembered

[short gust]

high binned volts chiplets

[slender notch]

I think it's more for non phones that don't need modems and stuff. Also marketing of course

[tame saddle]

Older being like a year old

[worldly sail]

Oh, none of the G chips should be exclusive. They’re in general just being planned as proper chips intended for handhelds, instead of being custom chips requested by companies.

[slender notch]

But honestly these companies suck at branding usually

[short gust]

G2 Gen2 actually custom chip for Retroid (first time ever)

[tame saddle]

Yeah. But I doubt you'll ever see an 8gen4 and g4 release at the same time

[short gust]

based on 8+ gen 1 with different cluster a bit

[tame saddle]

G will lag it a little. Which makes sense. Their primary profits by a long shot come from phones/tablets

[ripe stirrup]

There is still no mainstream/bigger firms that uses the G series

[short gust]

but should be again cursed gpu

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Which is why Qualcomm is probably offering pretty good incentives on them

[slender notch]

Didn't Razor use it?

[short gust]

G3 Gen1

its 888

[slender notch]

Well he said G series lol

[short gust]

solid chip with cooling, but expensive

it wasnt custom, just locked and renamed

[worldly sail]

Do we know that for sure? Or is that just an assumption based on Qualcomm directly tagging Retroid when they announced the G2 Gen 2?

[tame saddle]

To be fair razor pretty niche still

[kindred crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/walk-like-a-boss-gif-13481208

[slender notch]

Huh, Elite is the Gen 4 or am I missing something?

[worldly sail]

Cause it can still pretty easily be used for that planned Logitech G-Cloud 2.

[tame saddle]

Nah. Diff series. Gen 4 does move to a8xx tho I think

[slender notch]

I'm sure Qualcomm will sell that G2 if someone wants it

[slender notch]

When the fuck did a Gen 4 come out?

[short gust]

when contract end

[tame saddle]

It's coming this fall i think

[slender notch]

I swear after Gen 3 it was Elite

[tame saddle]

There's already rumors of gen 5, hehe

[slender notch]

Uhh hmm so their naming sucks got it

[short gust]

assumption that is almost certain

[slender notch]

I thought people basically considered the elite 8 Gen 4 and they said Qualcomm might name the Elite 2 a 8 Gen 5

[ripe stirrup]

Sounds kind of rubbish to me

[tame saddle]

Kinda. Basically g series, gaming, 8 gens, high performance generalized, elite, let's do it all

[short gust]

Qualcomm will announce soon new G series

[slender notch]

But who the fuck knows lol

[short gust]

spoiler 🙂

[ripe stirrup]

None of this small firms can afford exclusivity for chips

[short gust]

They have 2 new base

[slender notch]

Yeah most likely

[short gust]

8s Gen4 (cheaper 8 gen 3) and Elite

[worldly sail]

I’m pretty sure it’s way more likely they were just tagging Retroid due to them being willing to actually announce that they’re specifically using the G2 Gen 2 for their next mainline handheld.

[tame saddle]

Think g tends to announce in spring, 8 and elites fall

[swift nacelle]

How soon

[tame saddle]

Spring

[short gust]

also they can back to 8s gen 3

cheaper 8 gen 2

[worldly sail]

Instead of, you know, doing what the others did and just saying “we’re planning to use one of these chips for something planned”.

[slender notch]

I will saw it was strange that the aya neo graphic just said Elite and no snapdragon graphic for that one. Maybe doesn't mean anything or maybe it's G series? Who knows. Unless they just announced it.

[tame saddle]

It's kinda like how apple has their phone announcements and tablet announcements split. So g series at least so far is usually 6 months behind

[short gust]

don't think so, this happens only when partnership

[tame saddle]

Thought they tagged a bunch of people with their last g series announcement

[short gust]

we can see similar announce on phone segment every single time

[tame saddle]

Pretty sure they're just trying to market them with known brands

G2 fills a solid gap. But it's not really budget, G1, or premium, g3. So the demand is somewhat small

Retroid one of the few that works a lot in the middle

Now Anbernic I guess

Most other makers only have like 1 or 2 midrange models at most

[short gust]

same as last time

[tame saddle]

Cheaper in the end probably to just buy an ass load of g3 instead of some g3 and some g2

[worldly sail]

Given the whole point of the announcement, I’d have a hard time believing they announced 3 chips, where only 2 of them are actually for general use (1 of them being exclusive).

[worldly sail]

And yeah, this as well.

[tame saddle]

Yeah. It's def not exclusive, just less desired

But ayns little bro needs a differentiator

[short gust]

Think about it, does it make sense for companies to spend money on 8 gen 2 then?

it way more expensive, believe me

[tame saddle]

I'm not convinced they spend money at all anymore

[ripe stirrup]

So konkr 2, pocket s2, pocket ds 2 in spring 2026?

[worldly sail]

Given the power difference, yes.

[tame saddle]

Think Thor was a good excuse to use up the remaining stock

[short gust]

not even close to how much money it cost

cursed 8 gen 1+ is a budget monster

[tame saddle]

Like I doubt we'll see a 8gen2 powered Ayn ever again

[worldly sail]

Like, unless things changed, the estimates for the 8 Gen 2 should still be a good bit more powerful than what the G2 Gen 2 can be estimated at.

[swift nacelle]

But shouldn’t it continuously drop in price

[short gust]

yeah

[tame saddle]

Like Qualcomm determines what chips these people use a lot more than people think

[short gust]

this why i say this year we will see 8 gen2 for 200$ 😉

[worldly sail]

Shit, it likely did given how much the Thor costs with 2 OLED panels.

[short gust]

on pre-sale ofc

[leaden hollow]

I'm ready for the Odin 3 mini

[swift nacelle]

Odin 3 is the Odin 3 Mini

[tame saddle]

Think the sheer quantity of Thor sales ate their remaining stock anyway

[leaden hollow]

The ergo bumps though

[swift nacelle]

They’re not gonna put a Elite inside something with screen smaller than 6“

[short gust]

nah, they will

[swift nacelle]

Glad to be wrong, I just can’t see it

[tame saddle]

Nah. Think only ayaneeo is that nutts

[short gust]

dmg prove how companies can be dumb

[tame saddle]

DMG 2

[swift nacelle]

Evo 2

[leaden hollow]

Well I mean they have to make some variations right?

[tame saddle]

Yeah. But they're extra dumb. Let's not pretend

[short gust]

no sense device, but some peoples love it

so they will make again that dumb move

[worldly sail]

Odin 2 Mini is only 5”.

[tame saddle]

People loved DMG because it was a vert oled. Not because it had a super powered chip 😆

[short gust]

That's how it works: some experiment comes along and it becomes the norm.

[tame saddle]

I bet we see 5.5

[worldly sail]

See that’s what I’d also expect.

[autumn osprey]

Probably Portal, I doubt they’ll ever make a Mini again

[tame saddle]

Pretty sure 5" OLED doesn't exist

And they're not custom ordering one. Lol

[short gust]

Elite 1920x1080 coming soon

5.5

[swift nacelle]

But there’d be no high refresh rate

The battery would have to be super small

And cooling an elite inside such a small body…

The fan will probably be whiny again

[worldly sail]

I’m gonna go ahead and say exact what that “one type of annoying douche” will likely say.

[tame saddle]

Only ayaneo would go lower. And a second DMG is not gonna sell nearly as well as the first. Especially with the RP classic and other stuff having vert oled covered

[short gust]

also somone will make flip 5'' powerful

[worldly sail]

“Thor 2 let’s go!!!”

[short gust]

G3 / elite

[tame saddle]

Doubtful. Like who?

[short gust]

trends how it is

[worldly sail]

Specifically, this would start being said the exact second the Thor actually starts shipping.

[tame saddle]

Anyone else will be using dimensity or something else

[short gust]

dimencity will make their handhelds chips soon i think

they copy qualcomm everywhere

[tame saddle]

Yeah. But no one is making a 5" g3 flip

[short gust]

somone will

[leaden hollow]

I would definitely buy a 5" 8 elite

[short gust]

ayn/ayaneo or new comers

Or Retroid up in category

[tame saddle]

New comers fucking suck. I'm sorry to say. They're not making shit

[short gust]

to premium devices

[tame saddle]

At least not on the higher end

[short gust]

they can

[tame saddle]

Sure. So can I

So can the homeless dude on the corner

Anyone "CAN"

[short gust]

nah

[tame saddle]

Good rebuttal

[short gust]

newcomers will change game-rules this year

u will see 🙂

[tame saddle]

Lol

Man's forever talking about newcomers with 0 examples

All the newcomers this year have been ass

[short gust]

dont think somone will risk with 8 gen 2 or something strong like that, but below yes

[worldly sail]

Technically, others are already making dual screen G3 Gen 3 that uses what technically functions as a 5.5 inch 16:9 screen.

[short gust]

true

[tame saddle]

Who?

[worldly sail]

Here’s a hint.

[short gust]

7050, 7300, 7350, 8300 is definitely horsemen of the apocalypse with a collapse in prices

[tame saddle]

Yeah. I'm not nerdy enough to figure that out. Give a name. Lol

[leaden hollow]

oof the onexsugar had it rough

[slender notch]

The Mini might have just been something to release while they waited. Nothing guarantees they follow the same patterns. People need to realize this.

[tame saddle]

Oh. Bahahahaha

Fuck me. That can't be included. OneX so niche

[dark sundial]

Any guess for the extra surprises?

[slender notch]

Plus like people mention. Screen availability dictates the design more then anything..maybe even more then available chips lol

[tame saddle]

We're talking like real devices

[short gust]

oh OneX ... i forgot about another big market premium player

[worldly sail]

We can dread it and run from it, but the device that unironically makes AYANEO look cheap will exist all the same.

[kindred crypt]

super fan pricing probably

[dark sundial]

Even cheaper?!

[tame saddle]

Hahaha. True

I mean I still wanna hold one. But it's def gonna fall apart when touched

[worldly sail]

Well yeah OneXSugar is $600 by default since they have no other sku’s.

[kindred crypt]

yup, they did it with the Odin 2, but extremely limited, you have to be really fast to snatch one of those

[worldly sail]

It’s only the 16GB+512GB.

[kindred crypt]

think less than an hour time

[ripe stirrup]

The igg page/site came close to crashing when o2 launch

[short gust]

It will be interesting to see when people realize that they can buy the basic version of the device and upgrade it themselves or have it repaired to get the maximum performance. Even things that weren't available for sale.

[tame saddle]

It's usually just the base model right? Or all models?

[kindred crypt]

all models

prepare your wallets

[tame saddle]

Interesting

[short gust]

like i do with mine xioami redmi K20 Pro 24gb ram and 1tb ;D

in 2018

[kindred crypt]

Eden devs are eating lol

[worldly sail]

You talking about x86 handhelds? Or are you suggesting that people learn how to do ball soldering with SMD chips?

[tame saddle]

Whatever clearly a Chinese factory worker

[short gust]

how ball soldering

[tame saddle]

Man's like bro, everyone can just solder some extra ram on

[short gust]

If you don't need a warranty, this is a great way to get the best possible device, or even one that is unique in the world.

[slender notch]

Like 90+ % I doubt would even consider trying to upgrade a device.

[short gust]

You are limited by only one factor, which is the maximum support for your cpu

855 can go 24gb ram and 1tb rom

[worldly sail]

Or you know, they end up with a $300-$400 paperweight due to them fucking up as ball soldering isn’t an easy thing to just do.

[slender notch]

Most people can't do it and I don't see many people offering the service. Not sure you'd want to trust most of them anyways unfortunately:(

[short gust]

and working perfect, run tons of stress tests

[tame saddle]

Mans some clown shoes and people take him seriously. Smh

[short gust]

It's much easier than you think if you follow the instructions and take your time, even if you only have basic soldering skills.

But it's safer to take it to a repair shop, of course. For them, replacing memory with a larger capacity is routine work.

[slender notch]

I think you underestimate peoples abilities lol

Over*

[tame saddle]

By like a billion miles

[short gust]

Yes, there is such a thing...

[tame saddle]

Think there's a fair amount of overestimation in general from that source

[short gust]

The easiest way to find them is in places that repair portable devices; it is more difficult to find them in phone repair shops

[tame saddle]

And it just clogs up realistic conversations with fantastical discussions

[short gust]

Many will say that this is impossible from the second category because they have never done it before

[slender notch]

Possible and practical aren't the same but yes it's possible

[tame saddle]

I've done it before and you're still insane. Lol

[slender notch]

Anyways, Odin 3 looks sick and let's hope it turns out well for everyone. Maybe I'll buy one in a year.

[tame saddle]

Man's like, everyone will be pulling out their digital microscope and flux soldering pins in no time

[kindred crypt]

funnily enough it looks like they didn't confirm purple yet lol

but I guess it's in, has to be

[tame saddle]

Fuck yeah. Down with purple

But yeah. A blue transparent will be in my future

[short gust]

In my experience, while I didn't know anything about phones, I had a phone in which the ram had died, as it turned out during diagnostics, and they offered to install the maximum capacity for a few pennies, and then I started to look into it all.

[tame saddle]

Just not maybe right away

[kindred crypt]

a man of culture, I approve

[tame saddle]

Time to sabotage

[oak nacelle]

Transparent highlighter yellow when

[tame saddle]

Someone get in that factory and mess with the mix

[tame saddle]

Piss console in 2035

[kindred crypt]

oh yeah, that's right, they edited that

[tame saddle]

I wouldn't mind a transparent red or green tho

Kinda disappointed Xbox handheld won't be transparent green

[worldly sail]

I’ve literally made my own DMGC with a Soldering Iron alone (very tedious, takes forever, would never recommend it), and I’d still say he’s crazy if he thinks anyone can just do SMD soldering, much less freaking ball soldering.

[short gust]

Nah, i didnt say everyone can

i mean they can find who will

[oak nacelle]

More like this, not piss

lmao

[tame saddle]

Yeah. That's why I tend to ignore most of what he says. He exists on a higher plane

[short gust]

dont feed local toxic clown btw ;D

zeelobby just a simpliest npc what i ever see

[tame saddle]

Mountain dew laden pee. But still better

[worldly sail]

I mean fair enough I guess, but even that would likely require paying a lot just from the cost of effort. It’s not an easy thing to do.

[tame saddle]

Totally. Says most ignored man in this discord 😆

[short gust]

well, compare to buy max variant it cost 0

this why it interesting

also u can out of basic variants like i sayed 😄

Elite should support 2tb if i remember right, need to re-check

[worldly sail]

Seriously though, I love my DMGC, but if anyone is crazy enough to make this (it costs around $400 just to get all the parts, this is including donor consoles), just get a hot plate or hot air station.

[tame saddle]

You too, with $300 of equipment, can upgrade ram for half the price of just buying the next model 😆

Not to mention time value

It's like a whole other level on top of people who handheld hobby to configure emulators

[tame saddle]

Looks sick tho

[main dock]

now we wont get eden updates cause eden devs busy playing games on odin 3

[tame saddle]

Forreal

[wary matrix]

G2 Gen2 should basically be a D8300, so yeah less powerful

[short gust]

That's very commendable. I respect people with steady hands.

[short gust]

um I'm not sure

8300 is different ligue chipset

[wary matrix]

I'm pretty sure, RP6 will give Anbernic a run for their money

[short gust]

yeah, this will 200% but about raw

8300 a bit more powerful than 8+ gen1 in cpu

[clever halo]

WOOO

[swift nacelle]

That‘s a really low bar though

[short gust]

and gpu like 8s gen 3

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Rp6 gonna be a banger

[short gust]

so idk, maybe GPU will be on par with 8300 or higher (since G Series is cursed GPU), but CPU not 100%

[tame saddle]

Another reason why ayn probably avoided a 8gen2 model

[clever halo]

Plus they have like

4 8g2 devices as is

Thor, Portal, Mini, and Odin 2

[tame saddle]

Haha. True. But it gives Retroid more wiggle

Especially if they aggressively priced down to beat out ayaneo

[upbeat summit]

isn't this just a tad bit larger than an RP5? i see people talking about portability/pocketability concerns out there

[short gust]

eh, still 2tb not exist on commercial sale, rip

1tb max

[tame saddle]

With big bumps. So I'd say pocketability is probably low

[short gust]

ufs 4.0 and 4.1

[worldly sail]

It’s a tad bit bigger than the Odin 2 Mini, which is slightly bigger than the RP5. That’s not getting into the bumps.

[tame saddle]

Easy to throw in a bag tho

Don't think it's meant to be a pocket device. Just comfortable

[worldly sail]

Oh absolutely, it outright should still be smaller than the Odin 2 LCD.

[tame saddle]

I mean some say the RP5 isn't pocketable. So it's really a spectrum

[upbeat summit]

interesting, yeah those bumps probably get in the way a lot
still trying to decide between this and a thor to upgrade from my RP5 - I find the RP5 pocketable but I tend to have deep pockets
i guess i'll have to keep an eye on the Konkr Pocket Fit as well but I don't think whatever announcement they have lined up will blow anything out of the water tbh

[short gust]

if u need pocketable device u should go with flip factor

[tame saddle]

Yeah. I think they'll likely match or maybe beat just slightly, but with lcd

[short gust]

only

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Impossible to pocket anything that doesn't flip

It's science

Or math

Could be religion

[upbeat summit]

I can pocket the RP5 😔

[tame saddle]

Then whatever will smite you

Be careful

[upbeat summit]

LMAO

[short gust]

huge pocket 😄

[tame saddle]

Or just normal pockets

Man's ball soldering and has tiny pockets, could be a gnome

[oak nacelle]

I can jam a 2L in my pocket, doesn't make it a great idea

[tame saddle]

A switch will stick out of mine. Emergencies only

[short gust]

@worldly sail

prices good, now ill wait device which worthy of it to do

100$ Economy if O3 (Although in my case, I don't really care about that... it's just fun to do it yourself)

[leaden hollow]

I need to buy a 3d printer and figure out how to make a flat backplate

[short gust]

u have iphone?

[leaden hollow]

Android

[short gust]

rip

[leaden hollow]

Why

[short gust]

it cant scan 3d model

doesnt have module (Lidar)

[tame saddle]

Fool. Only way to use a 3d printer is if you have a scanner. Duh

[short gust]

Well, then it will be more difficult; you will have to create the model yourself in the software it will take allot time for first time

[tame saddle]

3d modeling = hard
Micro ball soldering = easy

[kindred crypt]

https://thememorycore.kit.com/posts/android-handhelds-go-elite-but-is-it-an-upgrade

[tame saddle]

Yesnt

[short gust]

wow, that was heavy

This is the best thing I've seen in a long time 🥲

i hope it realy smiliar or at least close enough ...

[kindred crypt]

“I can say freely that the community can pick the Odin 3 without hesitation, even if the support was slow in the first months of life of this SoC, emulation will mature like a fine wine on it.”

Eden dev

that's a much more optimistic take than everything we've heard so far

[unique mica]

I'm excited for the O3. I think the original O2 was the best of all the variations. If we're getting an update with OLED and an SD8Elite, that's a worth wild update if you're into Android gaming. My iPhone blows my O2 out of the water on Destiny Rising. So the O3 will be a welcomed.

[fast sable]

https://tenor.com/view/madagascar-skipper-dont-give-me-excuses-give-me-results-navigation-gif-22827563

[robust chasm]

I might go base

I've not much interest in winlator

unless they show Linux running already

if ayaneo show linux or rocknix on 8 elite then maybe I go ultra

[kindred crypt]

Outside of Switch emulation, the 8 Elite has a few other advantages. It’s not only more powerful, but also more efficient. Odyssey drew just 3W during gameplay, with Silksong varying between 4-9W. That’s significantly less than the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2, so despite having the same 8,000mAh battery, the Odin 3 should have improved longevity.

this is something like 10 hours battery life

[tame saddle]

This. Most devs say it hasn't been fun

[kindred crypt]

Imagine running Super Mario Odyssey at full speed with 10h battery life

[unique mica]

If you pull all of the most popular phones with the SD8 Elite, the large majority have 12GB...
| 1 | Samsung Galaxy S25 | 12GB |
| 2 | OnePlus 13 | 12GB |
| 3 | Xiaomi 15 Ultra | 16GB |
| 4 | ASUS ROG Phone 9 Pro | 12GB |
| 5 | Honor Magic 7 Pro | 12GB |
| 6 | Realme GT 7 Pro | 12GB |
| 7 | Vivo X200 Ultra | 12GB |
| 8 | iQOO Neo 10 Pro+ | 12GB |
| 9 | Oppo Find X8 Ultra | 12GB |
| 10 | OnePlus Ace 5 Pro | 12GB

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Efficiency is brought up less

But kinda important

[urban grail]

that is pretty nuts

[short gust]

12gb is base for Elite, i have no idea how they put 8

[tame saddle]

If you don't plan on tying it to the couch

[ripe stirrup]

Which server is this from?

[short gust]

it the most stupid move ever, ram not expensive (rom yes, it can)

[wary matrix]

the $299 base model is just bait, nobody will really buy it, this handheld starts at $369

[kindred crypt]

from the article: https://thememorycore.kit.com/posts/android-handhelds-go-elite-but-is-it-an-upgrade

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Def bait

Which is fine. Just don't buy it 😆

[short gust]

i dont think so

pre-sale is common thing

[wary matrix]

the $299 price point for the base model is probably even at a loss for AYN

[tame saddle]

Probably

Or razor thin

[short gust]

cant be

[robust chasm]

and probably a limited run just for launch

[kindred crypt]

and now imagine the battery life running GC/PS2 lmao

[short gust]

like i sayed, cheapest phone with ELite for everyone in CN is just 370$

[tame saddle]

Just don't engage him. Mans crazy

[kindred crypt]

20 hours GC here we go

[wary matrix]

$299 is super early bird, first 48hours of the campaign

[short gust]

phones cost much more than handhelds

in production

[tame saddle]

A lot of that is just massive margins tho

[robust chasm]

I mean the SKU might not exist after, like Retroid Pocket Classic 4g

[unique mica]

Yeah, the base model exists ONLY for Ayn to tout a lower starting price. That's it. The Pro is really all you need as determined by the current market of SD8Elite phones.

[tame saddle]

Like sure an iPhone costs $900 but we know that's 40-50% margins

[wary matrix]

ah, yeah, they might phase that out rather quickly

[short gust]

all what they can, is take 0 or super low margin to make pre-sale sales

300$ is real

[tame saddle]

Well yeah. It's a price they're selling it for

[robust chasm]

presale you can batch a few thousand units then done, sku is dead

[main dock]

why is there no champaign color for ultra

https://tenor.com/view/fancy-tuxedo-winnie-the-pooh-gif-15693976

[swift nacelle]

Probably more of a break even, seeing how they will sell an unlimited quantity for 48hours

[wary matrix]

especially the $70 price increase for the 12/256 model clearly suggests that the 8/128 is just bait, otherwise it would be the normal $50

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Think most of us agree with you

Almost all of us

[short gust]

um, good theory

[wary matrix]

I think the normal EB will be break even for them on the base model

[unique mica]

There's only two things that I hesitate on. I'm not a fan of the full glass front. They look amazing, but I hate having to buy custom screen protectors. I'm also a bit worried about how small the controls are. The O2 sticks were tiny and Ayn saying "full sized controls" doesn't really give me any objective info.

[gritty temple]

Is the base model "good enough" to use in tandem with the Portal 2 until a Portal 3 gets announced/released?

[kindred crypt]

eh, I don't know, 8GB still gets you plenty of handheld, it's not necessarily true that you must go for higher

[leaden hollow]

Why would they sell at a loss

[ripe stirrup]

I doubt they are taking loss on any of the unlimited sku price

[swift nacelle]

Yeah that sounds fair, especially since 128/8 -> 512/12 costs 80 on the portal

[short gust]

i feel Konkr (Ayaneo) will go aggressive marketing

they have much more money than AYN

u understand that?

[cloud coral]

They posted a picture showing that they are actually bigger sticks

[ripe stirrup]

If they release super fan perks, then yes maybe take a small loss

[short gust]

they can just wipe them with self cost prices

[wary matrix]

I'm pretty confident that the majority of people who will go for an 8 Elite handheld won't go for a 8/128 SKU, but we will see

[short gust]

lose oled not a big problem actually in that case

[tame saddle]

It's more so that with 8gb you'd mostly want to stick to emulation/streaming. And emulation will be somewhat limited by lack of ram and driver support

So it's really like a double tap to the knee

[unique mica]

Oh shoot. I didn't see that. If you have a link, that'd be awesome.

[short gust]

this chip not for retro stuff dude

[kindred crypt]

the Winlator capabilities at 8GB RAM are understated; there's plenty that will run without needing a truck load of ram and benefit from the performance of the 8 elite IMO

[leaden hollow]

Yeah but why

[short gust]

u can play Red dead redemption 2 on it

[tame saddle]

Sure it can run. But not always that grear

[cloud coral]

https://www.reddit.com/r/OdinHandheld/comments/1n6g5dl/larger_odin_3_sticks_confirmed/

[ripe stirrup]

Yes and those who do go for the 8/128 can enjoy the lower prices. Seriously see no issue with it.

Some people were talking like if the 12/256 is the base sku it will magically release at the base sku price --> 299/329 now

[short gust]

its obv switch in max quality,ps3,xbox,x86 handheld (ps4 in future)

[tame saddle]

If your enjoyment is derived with fiddling for hours to find configs that run well, sure

[short gust]

not below

[unique mica]

Well that's significant, IMO. Thanks for finding that.

[short gust]

so 8gb is a joke

[kindred crypt]

just saying, 8GB is not as bad here as we make it out to be

[wary matrix]

it's like buying a race car and then you have to push it tho

[cloud coral]

With that price point it could also be the most efficient ps2/gc machine

[ripe stirrup]

There were similar complaints for the Odin 2 base

[short gust]

um what

[ripe stirrup]

Don't stop those owners from enjoying it

[short gust]

Elite how many times more powerful u know>?)

its not um upgrade of g2, its fucking monster

[unique mica]

https://nanoreview.net/en/soc-list/rating

[wary matrix]

I'm pretty confident we will get an RP6 with the same screen, at least 6000mAh and the G2 Gen2 for <$230 soon enough

[short gust]

with power of desktop things

[ripe stirrup]

"even the t820 devices from anbernic has 8g ram, why start from 8gb for a 8g2 Odin 2??"

[short gust]

8gb cheapest dude

[tame saddle]

For sure. It's just a roadblock you will hit at some point unless your sticking with retro emulation exclusively

In which case 8 elite kinda overkill

[wary matrix]

well, in all fairness, Anbernic could get away with 6gb for their t820 devices without loosing anything really

[cloud coral]

Since the chip is such an upgrade and on a smaller node it will come with incredible battery efficiency
Not saying that this device should be used like this
It was just being a devil's advocate for 8gig version

[short gust]

exactly, they just waste of money like all

[tame saddle]

Dude must work in Chinese factory

[wary matrix]

maybe the price difference just isn't that significant

[short gust]

6gb ram enough to anything below 1200 (x86 emulation still ask too much from chip, its not capable really)

[main dock]

oh no elite isnt no.1

i dont want it anymore

[kindred crypt]

absolute trash

[tame saddle]

Lol

[wary matrix]

by the time we get our Odin 3, the Elite 2 will be out

[leaden hollow]

Doa

[unique mica]

According to that link, Snapdragon 8 Elite is about 76% more powerful in overall performance compared to the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2.

[main dock]

gonna wait for RG558 now

[quaint dust]

How is that ranking accurate when the Elite wins and beats it all around?

[short gust]

its a lie

[quaint dust]

[short gust]

want to see real difference?)

[unique mica]

Would love to.

[short gust]

alr

wait

[tame saddle]

This i gotta see

[unique mica]

https://tenor.com/view/patiently-waiting-waiting-waiting-patiently-still-waiting-gif-3590841176648399679

[short gust]

Elite not beat)

Dimencity GPU more powerful

[tame saddle]

He just left his factory bench to go to testing bench

[short gust]

always be

CPU Snap leader

[clever halo]

Just read this. Man this is actually more interesting than i thought

[tame saddle]

Well get ready because someone is likely about to tell you it's all wrong

[urban grail]

but but elite bad

[clever halo]

It really comes down to not getting Turnip on the Elite, but getting emulators to work nice with the Elite drivers

[upbeat summit]

what's the winlator potential on the O3? is 16gb ram even worth it?

[tame saddle]

Problem is a lot of emulator devs build on top of turnip because then it just works on multiple devices

[ripe stirrup]

The "no drivers" talk was just kind of funny.

[tame saddle]

Gonna be a beast

[short gust]

worth when X86 will start run next gen games

actual gen*

for now u can play like 1 of 10 games out, and only if proprietary driver on ELite compatible with that game

[upbeat summit]

Ahh so it's like a future proof thing

[tame saddle]

Yeah

I probably wouldn't buy if there's something on the horizon that fits better

[short gust]

here simple illustration, but i send more detail after

[kindred crypt]

you can run Cyberpunk at low settings at 15 fps

[upbeat summit]

I'm not too much into Winlator and stuff at the moment but I don't wanna kick myself in the ass if I ever get into it

[kindred crypt]

exciting

[short gust]

and its Elite on Phone, so it sucks

Active cooling make it like Elite+

[upbeat summit]

I know the way you're phrasing it makes it seem bad but that's genuinely surprising
x86 emu, right? Not Switch?

[clever halo]

Which isn't a problem. The Elite will get Turnip in time if what the Turnip devs says is right and the 8xx isn't too far off from the 7xx gpu

[tame saddle]

To be fair cyberpunk is kinda crysis coded

[tidal oak]

Holy shit arm chips are 20W now?

[upbeat summit]

Oh wow

[short gust]

17.5w base limit on Elite

even Leading Version

[tidal oak]

Damn how are phones not cooked lol

[tame saddle]

Is that what turnip devs said? Or what the article said? Cause turnip devs have struggled a little

[short gust]

but when u disable this limit with root, it can go 35w

🙂

want to see?

[tidal oak]

Or do they just tdp limit them massively

[tame saddle]

They're def limited

Especially with no active cooling

[kindred crypt]

yeah, Winlator translating x86

[ripe stirrup]

I prefer if they start building/testing for the main drivers, just like all emulators before skyline do. And what android games developers do.

At least with snapdragon we can load newer official drivers if need.

[short gust]

oops, im lied a bit more Leading Version can

[tame saddle]

I'm sure most benchmarks released by Qualcomm are test bench benchmarks with solid cooling

[short gust]

350W Liquid custom cooling

[tame saddle]

It's meant to show max potential

[upbeat summit]

Would make sense

[short gust]

that was peak hes

without any throttling and -50c

Elite 2 can reach 4 millions with stock limit 17.5w

[upbeat summit]

Damn, man
I think I'm gonna forget picking up a new x86 handheld and just go with the O3
I only really want to play less intensive/indie titles on the go anyways ATM when it comes to handheld x86

[tame saddle]

Especially since no one drops smaller less than top of the line x86 handhelds

[unique mica]

Winlator isn't a factor for me. I would think it's not for most. We all own multiple handhelds in this hobby, so why not have one of them be native x86?

[broken moth]

Think I will go with the max. Time to think of colors

[tame saddle]

Battery life, efficiency, price, etc

Size

The x86 I'd actually want no one is going to make so

[unique mica]

And a huge compromise on x86 performance. No thank you.

[tame saddle]

Depends what you're playing. Like he said

If you're mostly playing indies there's pluses here

[unique mica]

Sure. If.

[tame saddle]

Ok

Your point?

Like there are valid reasons. Maybe not for you. But for others. So...

[short gust]

who want pay 300w for 8% boost?

anyone?

[unique mica]

Well, I said it already above. Winlator isn't a factor for me. So... that's my point.

[short gust]

[tame saddle]

Yeah. But then you asked a question no?

And I gave an answer

[quaint dust]

Im thinking of just getting the base O3 and keeping my O2 just for Winlator/Gamehub if I want to mess around with those

[main dock]

kimchi was saying that official drivers are getting better and may end up not needing turnip later on

[unique mica]

And I agree with you for that specific circumstance. I also think it's a very narrow circumstance.

[tame saddle]

Yeah. 3rd party just offers cross compat

Which isnt as huge when they're all running same gpu architecture but I'm sure there's some differences

[unique mica]

What would it be?

[upbeat summit]

For me it's mainly portability
Most x86 handhelds are bulky as hell
Some of these ARM handhelds can be considered by some in the hobby to be bulky, but I find them palatable

[short gust]

portable x86 cost x3, and battery life /2

[tame saddle]

That's fine if you think that. Indies are pretty popular tho so I personally doubt that

[short gust]

not even worth

[swift nacelle]

Do they have Retro Power

[tame saddle]

6 inch and more efficient lower powered soc. Something I could run retro PC games and indies on

[broken moth]

wrong company

[tame saddle]

And that doesn't cost $500+

[upbeat summit]

I feel like the x86 scene needs to focus more on this, less on raw spec power
I'm looking at you, GPD.

[tame saddle]

There's lots of room for x86. But everyone chasing power and size

[short gust]

affordable x86 can make only Ayaneo, but Arhur crazy of ''premium things''

[tame saddle]

I'd prefer smaller size, better efficiency, byproduct being less power

[main dock]

i wish lol

[ripe stirrup]

Outside of testing/for fun, or maybe the occasional odd game, I would stick to streaming or native x86 handhelds as well

At least until I can download games, update them, install dlcs, have cloud saves etc without hassle, at least for the majority of the steam library. Mod compatibility/ease of use would've great as well.

[main dock]

i need a cream o3 with purple-ish buttons

[tame saddle]

Yeah. That's valid

[short gust]

maybe after konkr they made more affordable sub-brand

for x86

[broken moth]

are they going to sell the buttons?

[tame saddle]

Don't get me wrong. I'd prefer android x86 6 inch device without an hx370 or z2

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Disappointed they still went with 7" screen on that one but it is what it is

[short gust]

(Nomad is standart for high-end devices now)

[tame saddle]

Like the konkr pocket fit but x86 inside would have been awesome. Well except they'd throw in an hx370 and charge 1200+

[upbeat summit]

Oh wow. I didn't expect the D9400 to do better than the Elite here

[short gust]

like i sayed, Dimencity GPU more powerful

[ripe stirrup]

Mali are like Intel GPU, always excel in benchmarks. In-game is another thing

[main dock]

i found the cooling solution for my odin 3

[short gust]

and even higher effiency

[upbeat summit]

software/driver issue?

[main dock]

+3% fps here i come!

[tame saddle]

Better hope it's IP68

[short gust]

Mali doesnt have problems in any games anymore

they improve driver by allot

like exynos before did

[ripe stirrup]

Probably abit of both, including popularity of devices using the chips.

But things are better for Mali now compared to the past.

[short gust]

fine wine moment

[unique mica]

It's a broken record, but you're dangerously close to describing a Steam Deck.

[main dock]

part of the accessory package

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Short of it being a massive ass brick

I have an OLED deck. But I don't really take it places

[unique mica]

agreed

Native x86 on Steam Deck has higher efficiency and performance per watt than emulation on an SD8 Elite. Something to keep in mind when the efficiency arguement comes up.

[tame saddle]

Like a 7840u with 6" screen in a portable package

[upbeat summit]

I kinda wish the Thor had an Elite option so I can slap this power in my pocket

[short gust]

device like that with elite will cost like steamdeck

so this why they wont risk like that

[upbeat summit]

Fair honestly

[short gust]

maybe later

[upbeat summit]

Aren't we already in SD territory with this pricing tho?

[short gust]

not really

[upbeat summit]

last I recall SDs were insanely cheap, you could cop one for like $300-350 USD

[unique mica]

They're practically comodities at this point.

[short gust]

u count new prices on old device

now check how much is cost on out

[tame saddle]

Really I just need someone to sell me a battery for my Loki max

[urban grail]

i wondered how long it was gonna be before someone made the 'just buy a steamdeck' 😄

[short gust]

yikes ... already everyone play Hollow Knight: Silksong on gamehub and winlator

with better graphics than switch2

https://youtu.be/cOF1FlDAbGk?si=Foeanl7STDYyldTO

[unique mica]

SD is forever. I love all handhelds, but that one has clearly hit levels of accessibility (rightfully so or not) that others have all dreamt of.

[short gust]

https://youtu.be/lCeNvPeKB2g?si=Q7BnS9BfqtmhqKJZ

https://youtu.be/EhA-GnAKcb4?si=aQcEZFAOh78ADQiH 8Gen2

[unique mica]

Impressive. That's a game perfect for Winlator.

[tame saddle]

Yeah. Odin def tempting

[short gust]

seems like this game will run perfectly fine on 865

[tame saddle]

Might just get as placeholder

[short gust]

and even 845 with cursed settings

[unique mica]

Anyone wanna try it on their O2 and get back to us?

[tame saddle]

People playing tomb raider on high settings with o2portal so I imagine it'd be fine

[short gust]

Cronos: The New Dawn 2025

this impressive, not platformer

on 8 gen 3 turnip btw it struggle

[kindred crypt]

Silksong is actually a pretty lightweight game, should run well in just about everything that can run it

[short gust]

maybe even Vortek can run it

Somone with dimencity should try, or T820

[unique mica]

Anyone know what's going on with the front face on the O3 transparant models? I know it's just a render, but it does look different than the all-glass solid color models. I'm sure it's the same.

[wind delta]

I went from a samsung 23 to a oneplus ace 5 pro. I do agree the best thing seems to be efficiency. I feel the battery life is so much better on 8 elite even with a larger screen.
Although it could be that oneui is much worse than coloros managing battery life.

(even taking battery size difference into account ace 5 pro lasts a lot longer)

[short gust]

https://youtu.be/O2IOdT_CUHk?si=pL-RYsO93Q5fw1wL dimencity 1200

https://youtu.be/EmKPdn9kkis?si=gAr3MYsVevFDgVCr

and noone try T616/620/T820, somone comone -_-

it should work

[broken moth]

do think we could play Silksong on this?

[short gust]

Ik that

G99 not even T820

and run perfect

[broken moth]

did you think this will have enough power to brute force Dog's Life for ps2?

[short gust]

one of the most broken compability game? i dont think so

[broken moth]

https://tenor.com/view/darn-it-gosh-darn-it-damn-it-darn-shucks-gif-17173216080181900337

[gusty river]

I don’t think the front is transparent

[main dock]

i think ive got it. RP5 can handle 3ds no? so just get a dual screen for that, cancel the thor, and preorder the odin3 (which can then also use the dual screen if need be)

....also i wanna try and jank the dual screen onto my dmg lol

[short gust]

it handle it ideal

[main dock]

is that dual screen shipping yet?

[fast sable]

Why not the SD865 Thor?

[main dock]

cause i already have rp5?

[fast sable]

Ah ok

[main dock]

....and flip2

[short gust]

ig

[broken moth]

I am happy to wait out the thor and see how the hinge holds up. I will day one the odin 3

[trim panther]

299 wadaaafaaakk

It feels like you have to buy this device at that price even if you have no intention of using it

[short gust]

agree but personally me will stop 8gb maybe

[unique mica]

That would make sense. The render shows some sort of material change between the screen and body. I wonder if the transparent models are going to feel slightly cheaper than the solid models, just like the O2 did.

[gusty river]

Well for some reason I only ever like black 😅

[autumn obsidian]

same haha black devices just look so good

[quaint dust]

Especially with OLED screens

[autumn obsidian]

indeed

i think my black o2 portal looks sexy af

[trim panther]

Where’s the pricing pic gone?

[woven maple]

Am I wrong in think for the Odin 3, you'd probably want the max for that ram? From my understanding, winlator and higher end stuff should make use of it?

[trim panther]

Or was it fake

[lament adder]

it seems that Ayaneo doesn't ship via 4PX, isn't it ?! this means a 15-20% more on their price...

[trim panther]

Oh shit Sunday, no time to sell everything else

Although I’ve just cleared the credit card 🤔🤔

[slender notch]

Yeah no pins in here unfortunately

[autumn obsidian]

i've gotten winlator to work really well on just 8g of ram

the ram does have some benefits but you mostly upgrade for the internal storage and color options

[fast sable]

Does no one pin anything anymore 😫

[autumn obsidian]

and mind you the pro model is more than enough so you are for sure hitting diminishing returns with the max model

ayn does have a whole ass discord

with all of that info

[slender notch]

We need admin to pin. I forget the @

Or OP

[fast sable]

I mean, I know that. Im a mod over there 😅

[trim panther]

What’s the ayn igg shipping like? (Uk)

[autumn obsidian]

ah okay haha

[runic ferry]

4px

No tax

[trim panther]

So cheap too?

[runic ferry]

Errr depends how much you buy

[fast sable]

@violet hamlet needs to get his act together and get people pinning 😏

[trim panther]

Think my rp mini came 4px, was like $10-15

[clever halo]

I tried to pin it, it won't let me

[runic ferry]

I was going to say between 15 - 25

[slender notch]

Oh guess only mods

[runic ferry]

If you go all in with accessories

[slender notch]

It depends on how they have it setup

[autumn obsidian]

dhl was so quick to the states when i got my portal last month, i'd prolly just suck it up and go dhl again cause i am impatient

[trim panther]

God dam I don’t think I need it at all but that 299 or even the pro is hard not to be reckless

[autumn obsidian]

yea the pricing is really good haha

especially if you don't already own a high end android device

[broken moth]

Stubbs is in fine health.

[fast sable]

Here is our saviour. Awake from his slumber

[slender notch]

Stubbs please pin the price and other graphics if possible?

#1407320894317264896 message

[wary matrix]

at that price point I would at least expect $28

[unique mica]

I like black if it's OLED, but that's about only when. My O2 is white and I love it, but I think I'm going a dark color on this one.

[autumn obsidian]

black does look real good with the oled

[median estuary]

Hey there if something needs pinned please just ping a mod and not a specific staff.

[slender notch]

Yeah I only did because he responded. I didn't remember the mod group.

Ohh is it !mod??

[median estuary]

All good just going forward you do @ mod
Thank you for the pin reminder all the same.

[autumn obsidian]

@ mod didn't work for me

the mod role doesn't pop up

[median estuary]

hmmm, I'll look into it

[slender notch]

Oh shit discord on the phone sucks... I tried that but didn't see it because it's way on the bottom.

[fast sable]

Its @! mod

[autumn obsidian]

ahh the !

[autumn obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-noted-notes-gif-17474838830648097856

[wary matrix]

shhh, don't tell the kids

[median estuary]

Correct

[fast sable]

Yeah just mod doesnt work

[burnt wagon]

We had to add the ! due to other users popping up.

[autumn obsidian]

makes sense

[violet hamlet]

all g! Yeah I need to look at that spelling againn, maybe not coming up in search 😆

thanks doods

[fast sable]

Maybe add it in the rules what the command is since its a bit unusual with the !

[autumn obsidian]

now its not popping up? lol idk

let me restart discord

[slender notch]

You got a scroll a lot it seems groups are below member names unless it's exact.

[autumn obsidian]

thats all there is

can't scroll anymore

https://tenor.com/view/i-don't-know-idk-idk-about-that-gif-7336250873949261946

[slender notch]

Oh now it's gone... Lol

Fucking discord

[fast sable]

Looks like they removed the ! from the role now but you cant search it 😅

[violet hamlet]

fixed!

Well not fixed, but adjusted for easier search. discord client has made changes since we implemented.

[slender notch]

Discord things

[autumn obsidian]

hmm not popping up still shrugs

[fast sable]

It doesnt come up for me

[wary matrix]

you made it worse Stubbs

@!mod

was easy to find

<@&907746402191413258> ain't even pops up

[median estuary]

Sure does

[wary matrix]

well... not in the bar, but it seems to work if you send it 😂

[violet hamlet]

I can't keep up with all their changes

[fast sable]

Oh it does if you type it but dont specifically pick the person?

[autumn obsidian]

ah i see

[fast sable]

Discord be doing discord things for sure

[violet hamlet]

I give up lol

[runic ferry]

Yeah most likely

[fast sable]

Go back to sleep Stubbs

[violet hamlet]

back to the day job for me! Rob and I might stream later though.

[slender notch]

Appreciate the help Stubbs. Sorry that discord is chaotic lol

[floral wyvern]

Amazing price from Ayn, as expected! Making Aya look bad seems to be their favorite office pastime

I’m gonna hold off with the Thor having the same screen and controls but a chip that can do everything I want it to do rn. When Odin 3 matures with better Elite drivers, more form factor options, and maybe even Linux support, seems to be a better time to jump in.

I’m disappointed they didn’t make the max sku 16GB+1TB like on the Thor.

[short gust]

Aya make it even cheaper)

no oled and competitive price, in total we can see 250-260$ for Elite on Pre-sale

[floral wyvern]

That’s an 8gen3? Not that I would harp on the power at this level but that would be pretty crazy at $250

[short gust]

G3 Gen3 and Elite

[wary matrix]

they already said that they won't go below $299 with the G3 Gen3, let alone make an 8 Elite for $299

I can honestly see the G3 Gen3 KONKR Pocket Fit going for $299 with a 12/256 SKU now, while the KONKR Pocket Fit Elite goes for $349 with 12/256 just to fuck with AYN

[floral wyvern]

Yeah I only see them stating “less than $329” which is in no way indicating a $250 starting price. Obviously they have to respond to Ayn, but Aya cares a lot more about high profit margins per unit sold than Ayn. Ayn has shown they are more than happy to sell more volumn at lower margins than Aya. They probably make a lot on accessories via continual support of the same or similar devices

[clever halo]

Ayn plays the long game

[wary matrix]

I mean, the base SKU is basically pointless and priced accordingly

so I wouldn't really say the Odin 3 is a $299 device, but it really starts at $369

[floral wyvern]

You mean nothing you’ll get the Elite for is really doable with 8GB?

[wary matrix]

while AYA probably planned to start their base 8/128 at that price point

[wary matrix]

I mean, if you only want to emulate up to PS2 be my guest, the Elite will handle that somehow, but for Switch the 8gen2 and G3 Gen3 still do better at this point and Winlator likes to have at least 12gb RAM

the 24gb RAM SKU is naturally lunatic, you really only buy that for the internal

[floral wyvern]

That’s what I am thinking. Why not get a Thor at the $300 mark? Nothing the Elite unlocks over the 8gen2 is smart to match with a 8GB config

Or ofcourse the portal

[wary matrix]

I mean, Switch Emulation will get there at some point and the Elite has better battery efficiency, but at the normal $349 price point, the THOR Pro would make so much more sense

[gusty river]

Until your hands fall off from the ergonomics.

[short gust]

Pocket fit

[wary matrix]

$299 ain't bad honestly, but if you ain't going to solder in more RAM/ROM yourself, I wouldn't buy it

[short gust]

G3

[floral wyvern]

I got the Thor max. Odin 3 doesn’t interest me beyond being amazed at what they can offer at this price point

[wary matrix]

contemplated the THOR Max, but ultimately went with the Pro

[gusty river]

I do think the Thor looks really cool I just never thought a clam shell would be good long term. I feel like I’d hate it after a month. But it is totally cool if you have disposable income just doesn’t seem practical.

[floral wyvern]

I would have had to buy another 1TB Sd card for it anyways bc I am using my old one for my RP mini. Pro is the smarter buy if you already have a large SD card

[wary matrix]

fair enough, but I usually don't dump too many games on either of these

[floral wyvern]

That’s true. I forgot that having self control and restraint is possible too

[wary matrix]

main reason why I haven't gone for the MAX SKU is probably that I don't trust that hinge yet

also THOR 2 will come in ~2years anyway and then hopefully with a big AMOLED 4:3 120hz display for the bottom panel... then THOR 1 will be retired

[fringe frigate]

They will probably bump it to the 8 elite, seems like we already know what that product will be

[clever halo]

Something i will say from being in this hobby is this: Phone providers and makers cannot say they can't have SD card slots or headphone jacks when these devices can have them easily and still be supported. (I mean that was very obvious, but man it stings all the more)

[fringe frigate]

In a way it's the company's job to BS you into believing things that they do purely for profit.

[worldly lantern]

It's basically marketing so they can point to a number ... HOWEVER I do fit in the 0.1% niche where I just want the 8 Elite for better streaming decode ms from my local PC outputting to my XR glasses in bed.

[wary matrix]

that's a very small niche

[worldly lantern]

Which is why I'm glad the super duper early bird is low enough for an impulse buy. 😅

[woven maple]

#antecfitpocket when?

[tame saddle]

Dude is smoking some serious crack

We'll be lucky if it's the same price as the o3

My guess is slightly more expensive

[wary matrix]

their EB will probably be AYN retail

[minor sinew]

https://retrohandhelds.gg/ayn-odin-3/

[hasty cobalt]

Arthur posted this 😂

[kindred crypt]

I, uh, okay

I'm sure this was funnier in Chinese

but it's up there with Max Zhou shitposting

[rocky matrix]

$349 for a SD8 Elite device is insane

[tidal oak]

$299 for an sd 8 elite device is more insane lol

[rocky matrix]

Also true, but I wanted to take the normal price into account

If I were to switch to a basic phone, I wouldn't mind having an Odin 3 for Android stuff in general, heh

[quaint dust]

Really considering the base O3 model for $299 , it’s a really incredible deal and keeping my O2 for Switch or GameHub later , my O2 is 12GB and should be fine with turnip drivers

[clever halo]

Legit this is cheapest 8 elite device on the market now and it offers more than some phones lol

[rocky matrix]

That is true

[clever halo]

https://www.reddit.com/r/OdinHandheld/s/DcJPEVJ1pN

• 8GB : Covers 90-95% of emulation needs (100% if you don't care about Switch, RPCS3 and other experimental emus)

    The cases where 8GB isn't enough for Switch/RPCS3 are very very rare. You'll still be able to do the vast majority of emulatable Switch/RPCS3 with 8GB.
  
    PS2/GC and anything below never reaches 8GB, so that's fully maxed out already, doesn't benefit from more RAM.
  

• 12GB: If you want to be extra safe for the handful of Switch games that may need more ram to run and maybe some other experimental emus in some cases like RPCS3, plus a decent amount of Winlator

    The cases where 12GB isn't enough for Winlator are also fairly rare, and often not really worth it anyway (Cyberpunk will consume 14GB but who cares if it runs at 10-15 FPS anyway). Most of Winlator, specially less intensive PC games like indies and stuff, will do fine at 12GB
  

• 16GB: You want to emulate big PC games via Winlator (if this is not in your plans, you do not need 16GB)

    The PC games that require this much RAM are unlikely to run well even with an 8 Elite at the moment (see my Cyberpunk example above)
  
    There's nothing known at the moment that will need more than 16GB. No, you do not need more than 16GB for "heavy multitasking", that's not really a thing unless you have a fetish for multiple Winlator copies running in parallel or something 
  

• 24GB: You wish to depart very swiftly from your money for no particular reason other than hoping some day in the future someone will find an use for this much RAM

  • However getting the Ultra SKU of the Odin 3 for the 1TB of storage is totally valid

[severe jungle]

What about PC games with mods, though

[rocky matrix]

Probably depends on the game

[main dock]

nude mods?

you need 69gb

[severe jungle]

Lol no. Like P4G or FFVII, maybe. Ports of less heavy games. But that's fair.

[timber turret]

So 8gb would be good for emulating most switch games? I ran to the retro handheld server to look for answers

[clever halo]

8 is fine, 12 is recommended most times

Most games don't need more than 8, but there are a small handful of outliers that need 12

[tame saddle]

Post seems that 24GB totally valid as long as I tell people it's for the 1TB storage

Got it

[timber turret]

I wonder how many people will start unloading their odin 2's and portals

the 2 is still decent, yes?

[slender notch]

It's terrible so someone should sell it to me for $50

[timber turret]

I'm right there with you

[clever halo]

The 2 is a beast

It will be a long, long time before the 2 goes out of fashion

[tame saddle]

Yeah. The only thing lackluster is the screen

Personally I'd pay for a 3 purely for that

[clever halo]

That and the sticks

[tame saddle]

But power/game wise it's basically the pinnacle for emulation

[leaden hollow]

I just realized the base model also has slower storage

[worldly lantern]

Imma need y'all to stop advocating for the 8GB so there's less competition come Sunday! 😅

[tame saddle]

Yeah. That's a bummer. But to get to the lowest razor thin they probably had to

[umbral heron]

8gb sku is the “I don’t wanna mod a Switch Lite or get the O2P” sku 🗿
At least, when Switch is supported a lot better, whenever that might be

I still find it insane how hard it is to get access to an OLED screen for the Switch Lite.
Taki is always out/low on stock for the… Super5 it’s called I think? 😅

[tame saddle]

I mean honestly id probably recommend pro at least to not have any real limitations. But I have future purposes planned and base would be fun to play with

My retro backlog is large and it'll slaughter those

[quaint dust]

The sale is for 48hrs not limited supply

[gilded edge]

Guys, to the US is it better to get with 4px or DHL?

[clever halo]

WOOOO

[tame saddle]

So where were we supposed to sign up for emails?

[gusty river]

What do you mean by competition?

[worldly lantern]

Wait I thought IGG had 100 redemptions limit during that period?

[gusty river]

No that’s just a place holder it’s 48 hours

[umbral heron]

On the Indiegogo itself I think

[worldly lantern]

Alright. Y'all can proceed to join the 8GB gang now

[kindred crypt]

late November shipping

[kindred crypt]

awkward, I don't actually need or care for the TPU shell even if it's free

[slender notch]

It's very dependent on where you live unfortunately. One can be faster then the other. DHL costs more from what I've seen.

[swift nacelle]

Will probably look super clean on the white model though

[tame saddle]

Same. But usually the full on freebie is kinda meh